doom-eternal

[rotund dust]

You mean it change the projectile?

Or is there a blue vfx when the flare happens ? Cause I never saw any blue vfx when I used the upgrade

And I got 8 kill on the challenge, so I should've noticed it by now lol

Either way, I think I'll shoot and explode rocket until the challenge is completed

Also do the main campaign upgrade transfer into the dlc campaign ?

[slow sigil]

Hmm ok, i remember it going blue for a sec before having to detonate it when i farmed it against foffer

[azure oriole]

yes.

[slow sigil]

Gotta make sure they fly right next to them ig

[rotund dust]

Kk

[slow sigil]

No, in the dlc you automatically have all upgrades

[rotund dust]

Wait wut xD

So I'm upgrading for no reason lol

[slow sigil]

Well for base game and achievments

But yeah it's pretty pointless otherwise as rem det isnt great, and not for damage

[rotund dust]

I just wanna see the story atm xD

Isn't rocket remote det used in quick switching for falter ?

[azure oriole]

What???

[slow sigil]

Not really cause it's a soft falter

[rotund dust]

I see a lot of video about people using remote det

[slow sigil]

If you're quickswitching the enemy dies too quickly to really use rem det succefully

[rotund dust]

Its used for the soft falter

[slow sigil]

Well, you can use rem det. There just isnt any reason for it aside from "i like it a bit better"

[rotund dust]

So how do people use the weapon in quick switching?

[slow sigil]

Yeah and that one isnt very great anyways

[slow sigil]

You can make quickswitching easier by holding the mod button while doing pb rockets, that's it

[rotund dust]

So people use the lock on instead while quick switching

Why thevnod button?

I'm on k&m

[slow sigil]

Usually if you know what you are doing. There are things you can do with lock on too like double lock on. But you can make it easier by "using" lock on

[rotund dust]

Wdym ?

[slow sigil]

Well if you hold it you instantly zoom with pb and you dont have to keep releasing it with lock on so you dont lock on

[rotund dust]

Mod button is right click no ? I mean it's not the change mod button right ?

[rotund dust]

Wdym ? By don't have to keep releasing it

Aka I can lock on instantly if I do this or something else?

[slow sigil]

You only change weaponmods for 2 techniques, not all too usefull

[rotund dust]

So I literally have to change the mod

Also not sure wuts the benefit of doing this, if it doesn't lock on

[slow sigil]

Well if you go to pb you can hold the weapon mod button during swapping to instantly scope, which is good. If you hold it with rem det you dont do anything which is also good. If you hold it with lock on you lock on you lock on which you dont want

[rotund dust]

Whats pb ?

[slow sigil]

Precision bolt, the thing you want to quickswitch with

[rotund dust]

Ah

[slow sigil]

Weapon mod button is to use the weapon mod. Otherwise it would be weapon mod swap

[rotund dust]

Ok, so it is right click. Got it

[slow sigil]

Yeah but console and stuff so

[rotund dust]

So basically I would be using while holding right click swapping to rocket launher and shoot while having remote det active ?

And that would do what ?

[slow sigil]

You hold right click shile going to pb so you can instantly scope and shoot, you have rem det equiped cause it doesnt do anything while hold it while pb rocketing. You can release it but that costs more remembering and finesse in your fingers

[rotund dust]

So, what if I use lock on instead ?

[slow sigil]

You'll have to release right click every time you go to rocket

[rotund dust]

Also was wondering how fast I should quick swap ?

[slow sigil]

But you'll have lock on so it's a tiny bit harder to remember but atronger cause you can lock on, SLOBS, etc

[rotund dust]

Cause compared to player I see on YouTube I am much slower since I kinda gotta aim the shots

If a demon move or if I move that is

[azure oriole]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_k7ZgLTXXw

[slow sigil]

As fast as you can, that's the point
Instantly shoot by holding fire (except for pb, doesnt work) and instantly shoot with pb. And swap the moment you shoot

[azure oriole]

If ya talking about slob Idk

prob not cuz It's been like +100messasges here and I'm too lazy to scroll up

[slow sigil]

Well you aim while shooting, and higher fps doesn minimally impact swap speed

[rotund dust]

Wait so I need to hold shooting?

I thought I needed to hold the swapping button

[slow sigil]

Dont "need" to but it means you shoot first frame so absolutely no reason as to not

[slow sigil]

For PB yeah, so you instantly scope

[rotund dust]

Ok probably why I'm shooting slower

I'm holding swap but not shoot

Well technically

I swap with key from 1 to 0

[slow sigil]

You hold swap just for pb, so you scope first frame
Then it's just a feeling for shooting as fast as you can for pb lol

[rotund dust]

So i would need to hold shoot while swapping to the weapon with my 1 to 0 keys

[slow sigil]

Well if it works ig, i cant swap with anything higher then 5, and 2 and 3 are awkward

[rotund dust]

Also I think u mean not swap for pb, but the aim down sight button no ,

[rotund dust]

Can't u use middle mouse button and scroll through weapon tho ?

Wouldn't that be even faster swapping ?

[slow sigil]

You swap to pb, you dont weaponmod swap. Get out of your head i never mean swapping weapon mods

[rotund dust]

Ah

[slow sigil]

Takes a bit to physically scroll, plus requires even more finesse on your fingers
Best is to change your buttons to be around WASD, so q, e, r, f, etc

[rotund dust]

I mean I use wqse

My chainsaw is on d and blood punch on a

Is there an easier way switch weapon using the scroll wheel ?

Like scroll down change to the next weapon and scrolling up to the previous one ?

[slow sigil]

I mean, you can it just requires a bit of finesse on your fingers which can be awkward. Better to do like flame belch and chainsaw on scroll

[rotund dust]

Required more finesse from me to swap using key 1 to 0

I often miss the key or miss tap the wrong one xD

[slow sigil]

I mean i dont use qwes so maybe it's different lol idfk

[rotund dust]

In fact I usually have to look at my keyboard to not swap to the wrong weaponxD

[slow sigil]

Rip, well ig you just arent too used to your keyboard then

Why did it plop the shrug in the middle of the sentence, oh well

[rotund dust]

Like is there a way to assign weapon swap to scrolling wheel so I can instantly switch to balista to sticky bomb shotgun with 1 wheel scroll ?

[slow sigil]

You already can by default

[rotund dust]

Ok. So just to control how fast it scroll then

[slow sigil]

Yeah
Seems to me it requires more effort then to just learn to use your keys better but you go you

[rotund dust]

Isn't there a button to swap to the previous used weapon ?

Would be better than to switch keys constantly between swapping

[slow sigil]

Yeah pressing the weaponwheel but it's better to swap with individual weapons

[slow sigil]

Not really cause when you wanna swap to a new weapon you gotta get that right first

Better to know every button as it's own weapon to me

[rotund dust]

Idk in fps, I've always look at my keyboard to swap stuff around especially when I don't wanna swap to the wrong weapon

I guess it's muscle memory ?

[slow sigil]

I got quickly used to it, only sometimes fumble, and yeah i think it's mostly muscle memory

[rotund dust]

Also, how do you while quick switching + moving around?

[slow sigil]

Same thing for blind typers, who dont need to look at the keyboard. But in an fps you have only 1/3rd of the keyboard to use

[slow sigil]

Quickly tap it but usually i walk to the left cause that's where the least swap weapons are lol

[rotund dust]

Idk when i hold shoot I seem to miss 2/3 of my shots

Cause of me moving around or the enemy moving

[slow sigil]

Better aim required then

[rotund dust]

Do I Quickswap while moving ? Or do I need to not Quickswap when I move ?

[slow sigil]

Standing still in eternal is really dumb as it's, you know, a movement shooter

[rotund dust]

Like if I quickswap I just hold the shooting button forever ? Or do I need to align my character so my shots are aligned toward the same target ?

And then quickswap

[slow sigil]

You can release left click but, why would you. There is time between shots to reaim if you can't just stay on target

[slow sigil]

Wdym "align my character" you can move your mouse to aim

[rotund dust]

Just doesn't seem that much time to reaim tbh

[slow sigil]

It's more then automatic weapons in most games

Plus no recoil

[rotund dust]

Since each weapon fire on the first frame

I have very little time to reaim

[slow sigil]

Yeah but you have time between swapping

Are you only startint to aim AFTER you get your gun??? What are you doing inbetween that time?

[rotund dust]

Yah, like half a second to reaim

[rotund dust]

Yes

[slow sigil]

That is more then enough time, eternal enemies are big and forgiving in aim. With automatic weapons you usually shoot like more then 2 timez a second and you dont wait 9 whole seconds to reaim inbetween those either right

[rotund dust]

I mean I move in between

Create distance between me and the demon

So I don't get overwhelm by a swarm of demon

[slow sigil]

You should move during, not inbetween
Just like you should aim during swapping too, not inbetween

You can multitask after all

[rotund dust]

How do I aim while swapping when there tons of vfx on screen tho xD

I usually don't see jack shit when I swap cause the weapon is in the way

• all the vfx

[slow sigil]

You focus on the big enemy shaped ones?

There really arent that many effects to which you cant at all see an enemy at all unless you mod in more effects ig

[rotund dust]

Idk isn't there a blur when u swap or aim ? Maybe its just the transition that feels too fast for my eye idk

Just feels too fast for me to aim correctly

[slow sigil]

There shouldnt be, would be weird if eternal which wants to focus on swapping, made swapping blur your screen lol

[rotund dust]

Maybe it's just the speed I guess

Idk just feels I have to aim faster my eye Can lock on target on screen

Is there a way to train this ?

So I acquire target faster with my eye ?

[slow sigil]

Aim can be trained yeah

Cause this just sounds like an aiming issue

[rotund dust]

Ok found an aim trainer

[azure oriole]

aim trainer's do nothing

best way to Improve the aim is by playing the game

[rotund dust]

I mean I have issue in all fps

Ĺ

[azure oriole]

I think everyone has Issues while playing FPS games

from my 9year experience I kinda Improved my aim by playing the games I never used any aim trainer

[rotund dust]

Would acquiring target and moving to the next be target tracking ?

[azure oriole]

I flick

most of my aim learning came from tf2

[rotund dust]

Would it be target tracking to aim and move to next target ?

[strange gale]

played jumbo tile frenzy for 5 minutes = useless

[rotund dust]

I found a aim trainer

Aimtrainer io

[tight dagger]

Hello

1sec

[rotund dust]

But not sure what training to pick to improve locking in target and moving to the nexf

[tight dagger]

Done

[rotund dust]

Well it's mostly moving to the next I have issues with

Aka switch from target to target is my issue

[azure oriole]

also what mouse sensitivity are you using?

[rotund dust]

Need to be able to do it faster

Uhm idk I think I setted it to 40 or 60 don't remember

Do I need to increase it further ?

[azure oriole]

Idk It is your choice

anwser these questions to yourself
do you feel comfortable using it?
Is it good sens for you
is it not too fast/slow

[rotund dust]

I mean could I switch target faster if the sensitivity was faster ?

I can do a 180 degree turn with 1 flick tbh

[azure oriole]

for me? my opinion faster sens will ruin your aim

I use 2.69Sens in game and around 800dpi

[rotund dust]

Should I be doing more than 180 degree turn with 1 flick ?

[azure oriole]

I don't think so

[rotund dust]

Cause I've heard people saying 1 move for moving camera should be doing 360 degree

[azure oriole]

and what is 1 move?

Sliding the mouse all over the table? from slow sens or fast sens

[rotund dust]

Like 1 move of the wrist/arm

[rotund dust]

Not all over, just what you usually use on your mousepad

[azure oriole]

I have very slow sens and it takes more a bit more for me to do 360

but having a faster sens sometimes would kill your accuracy (my opinion)

[rotund dust]

Yes, ik, but isn't there a setting in windows to change mouse sensitivity ?

I usually set it at 6

[azure oriole]

I don't use it at all I think

[rotund dust]

But I assume if I put the game sensitivity higher and the default windows mouse sensitivity lower it would be just a bit faster

Not to insane degree

[rotund dust]

Yah I can only do a 180 degree with mine

I need like 2 flick to do a 360

So I would assume I would need faster sensitivity

If only there a was separate sensitivity for aim down sight ><

Vs moving camera

[azure oriole]

lower sens Improved my aim somehow

[rotund dust]

Yah but u still do 360 degree with 1 flick

I'm can only do like 180

[azure oriole]

I don't play csgo/valorant or other those games

[rotund dust]

So might need to increase my sensitivity so i can do a 360

Is there a sensitivity for aiming vs just moving camera btw ?

[slow sigil]

Should be the same

Your cam IS your aim

[rotund dust]

Cause I often find myself having to use lower sensitivity for aiming than what I should have to be able to do a full 360 with 1 flick

[patent stream]

U do realize a 360 would just put you facing the same exact direction right?

[rotund dust]

Yes

[slow sigil]

You wont need more then 180 usually

[rotund dust]

?

[slow sigil]

And if you do, lift mouse and recenter lmfao

[patent stream]

If you need to do a 360 flick……you would already be facing the direction you need….

[rotund dust]

Ok, so u need to do a 180 degree and not 360 ?

[patent stream]

Yes

[slow sigil]

A circle is 360 degrees, half a circle (right behind you) is 180 yeah

[rotund dust]

Then why I can't switch from target to target faster ?

[slow sigil]

I dont know, i'm not you

I can flick fairly well, but i do play siege so eh

[stoic cradle]

when you create a bethesda account and it says you got items for doom eternal but you cannot even buy the game itself

[burnt moss]

Someone on Facebook said they’re gonna do a Quake 4 mod, with ducks

And call it Quack

[azure oriole]

Quack 4

[azure oriole]

Volden Eye

[random vault]

genshin impact

[azure oriole]

I have heard rumors that the Shogun will rerun in 3.3 (offtopic)

[random vault]

#general for offtopic talk

[sacred dirge]

It's a common misconception maxed sensitivity makes you a super player

[civic garnet]

High sensitivity is good when you've trained yourself for it

Just jumping to max sensitivity will usually get you nowhere

Low sensitivity can and will help your accuracy, but it also affects the speed at which you aim

[valid wren]

sensitivity is based on preference, but most people will chose to have lower sens in order to have thier shots more accurate, its most of the time easier to aim at the target's weakpoint with lower sens

[slow sigil]

the best one is a mix between both, which you can use the best aswell

[civic garnet]

Yep

[azure oriole]

🔴

[valid wren]

Yet again, preference, some will just aim better at a mid to high sens

Thats why everyone should test all kind of sens to see what they like more

[strange gale]

if your mind-muscle connection isn't trained in this context then high sens won't work, otherwise it's ideal in this game

[valid wren]

blod

[azure oriole]

blod

[sacred dirge]

Generally people who think pros play with maxed everything are usually wrong. I sit around 90s usually. 2016 I max but only because the turning feels to slow with a controller

[random vault]

hi

[burnt moss]

Sup

[azure oriole]

Sup

[random vault]

hi vold en eye

[burnt moss]

Hi

[azure oriole]

Volden In eye

[icy flare]

Random question, if I were to go back and run taras nabad since I couldn't beat the slayer gate on the initial playthrough. Am I able to just, quit the mission immediately after I do the Gate or do I have to actually finish the entirety of the mission in order to actually be granted the key? I am playing on Nightmare and I just don't feel like not having the advantage of having the (sorry if i butcher the name, idk what it is for sure) Unmaykr in the battles-to-come

[azure oriole]

you can do the gate and quit after If I'm not wrong

[icy flare]

okay, thank you- also, any tips besides just saving all my bfg ammo for the prowler wave & the tyrant or w/e spawns on the 3rd or 4th wave

[azure oriole]

I don't remember Taras-Nabad Slayer gate sry

[icy flare]

because i managed to make it up to the point where i got the doom hunter to critical damage but i died soon after :(

[icy flare]

ahh gotcha

[fringe wind]

Quick question should I get the unmykr before going into nekravol

[slow sigil]

if you want

[sacred dirge]

Yes

[burnt moss]

You can’t get it after that, until you beat the game.

[fringe wind]

Okay

[compact lantern]

i just beat The Ancient Gods part 1 for the first time! what should i focus on gameplay-wise for Part 2?

[azure oriole]

Life

[flat trail]

eternal is sm better than 16 🙏🙏🙏

[compact lantern]

gotcha

[slow sigil]

wdym "focus on"

[random vault]

hi

[azure oriole]

Hi

[random vault]

what should they get better at? maybe? idk

[slow sigil]

probs not, otherwise they would say what they would struggle on

[random vault]

idk

[slate oracle]

R I P U N T I L I T IS DONE

[azure oriole]

No.

[compact lantern]

Like what would I need to adapt into my playstyle for certain enemies in order to not want to cry

[midnight sparrow]

Really nothing

[slow sigil]

uhhh i guess full auto? but like, if you're quickswapping you're fine. and FA is just a stimp killer dont adapt it into "your playstyle" whatever it might be

[compact lantern]

Okay, thanks you guys!

[snow kestrel]

just abuse hammer ez

[midnight sparrow]

For Stone Imps: Chainsaw, Full Auto, and Hammer
Armored Barons: Hit their mace thing when it flashes green to break their armor, from their you can ice bomb them to slow em down.
Screechers: Just don’t hit them. AOE from the hammer also sets them off same with splash damage
Cursed Prowlers: They have a distinct sound queue to let you know their there. If just Blood Punch them

[compact lantern]

Hmmmmm okay, I'll keep that in mind, thank you for the help I really appreciate it

[midnight sparrow]

*Blood Punch them if you get cursed

[compact lantern]

Okay!

[midnight sparrow]

No problem man 👍

[jaunty vapor]

Why do people not want to learn what the game offers on their own? =,=

[patent stream]

Experiment? Learn? What is this 2005?

[slow sigil]

experiment? sorry, having 2 healthbars that fill in different ways is already too much for me to comprehend

[cyan frigate]

he was just asking for a few tips goddamn you guys went for the throat 😭😆

hows eternal treating us today gamers?

[patent stream]

To be fair they said they just beat tag 1 and want to know what to watch out for in tag 2. But u don’t even know what you will have problems with until you fight it

Personally, play it, struggle, then ask for help

[jaunty vapor]

I'd recommend taking out the Bumblesnatchers first since they can steal your most used weapon.

[azure oriole]

True

[jaunty vapor]

But the Dingledorfs are just as deadly

And they're immune to the Sentinel Mortar Cannon you get in mission 1

[azure forum]

Best advice for tag2, if you see a purple zombie, shot it!

[jaunty vapor]

True

[azure oriole]

Yes Exactly.

[patent stream]

Sheeeet the dingledorfs screwed my last 7 playthroughs man

I don’t see how Hugo approved them

[cyan frigate]

yee true. i was just like goddamn they tore him open 😭🤣

[cyan frigate]

the dingledorfs are pretty op man.

[icy ice]

So I recently beat the holt without dying and without saving throw in my nightmare save file. I'm going to do this a few more times before diving into my ultra nightmare save file and doing it.

The boss fight isn't as bad now with some practice. I did need to change my play style quite a bit though

I'm so happy the caco part is just a timed sequence lol

[crimson yarrow]

How much higher can I go above 60hz to not "ruin" games capped at 60fps?

Cuz some of my favorites are like that and I want to be able to replay them without it feeling choppy

[azure oriole]

Your refresh rate being higher than a capped 60 shouldn’t really be a problem at all, I do that for Cyberpunk and the game runs fine

With a 144 hz monitor

[sacred dirge]

144 gang

[crimson yarrow]

I don't know if Cyberpunk is the best example for a game that would universally perform well lol

What I mean is that I keep hearing that once you try 144fps on a 144hz monitor you can't go back, so...

So I feel like I'll go with 75 or 100hz which are surprisingly common where I live (especially the former)

[cosmic veldt]

hi

[strange gale]

but you can go back

[crimson yarrow]

Really?

Like I don't mean physically, I'm talking about standards

[strange gale]

the difference is dramatic but 60hz doesn't feel unplayable in comparison

[cosmic veldt]

what is going on

[crimson yarrow]

For example now I find it distractingly jarring to play 30fps games for example, and a lot of people say that it's a similar jump here

[azure oriole]

? It is a well optimized game.

And it scales really well between low and high end rigs

[severe ermine]

minecraft shaders are the ultimate test

[crimson yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334322

[azure oriole]

Ok

[gray rivet]

O.o

[icy ice]

I haven't had any issues with 60fps games on a 144hz monitor. I do a bunch of emulation of older consoles and games and everything looks fine to me.

However, I completely agree that 30fps looks bad lol

[flint flame]

💪

[ancient night]

you might come across additional judder if the refresh rate isn't an integer multiple of the framerate but you won't be losing any temporal resolution or adding input lag

or you might just be totally fine and not tell

[gray rivet]

^

[crimson yarrow]

What do you mean, "integer multiple"

[ancient night]

So for example 120fps is 2x 60fps, so on a 120hz display, each frame of 60fps content can be displayed across two frames that the screen scans out, or three if it’s 180hz etc. if it’s not an integer multiple then some frames may be displayed longer than others, making the experience more juddery than it’s meant to

So if you can’t use a variable refresh rate display that can adapt to the frame rate of whatever you’re playing or watching, it would be ideal to set the screen’s refresh rate to be a whole number multiple of the content you’re watching, including just 1x

[crimson yarrow]

So if I plan to keep playing games locked at 60fps, I should get a 120hz monitor?

Also, would this "double display" make 60fps look better or the same as on a 60hz screen?

[ancient night]

It should look basically the same, a 60Hz monitor would be fine but a cool trick you can use with a 120Hz display is with VRR (variable refresh rate) technology. You can get benefits even if your framerate is fixed. Enable v-sync on a driver level, not in game, and ensure your frame rate is at least 2 (ideally 3, higher won’t hurt but it’ll lower your fps, not an issue if you’re locked to 60 anyways) below the monitor’s refresh rate (so 117 for a 120Hz display) to prevent the dreaded buffering and subsequent input lag v-sync is known for. You can either cap in-game, or (in Eternal’s case) use an external framerate limiter, I like Rivatuner Statistics Server (RTSS), I have it capped to 141 with my 144Hz freesync monitor.

The variable refresh rate (freesync in my case) makes sure that the monitor’s refresh rate matches the game’s framerate, which prevents any excess juddering. The v-sync makes sure that the monitor’s process of “scanning out” a frame from top to bottom is synchronised with the GPU drawing the frame top to bottom (hence the name vertical-synchronisation, v-sync) , this prevents tearing where you see parts of different frames being displayed at the same time.

[crimson yarrow]

Wait, but right off the bat, does 60fps look better on 120hz than 144hz or nah?

[midnight sparrow]

The Green Prowlers heal you and you shouldn’t blood punch them at all 👍

[ancient night]

just as-is, it would be better on 120hz

[crimson yarrow]

Significantly better or slightly?

[ancient night]

or 180hz, 240, 300, you can extrapolate

[ancient night]

This would be up to you honestly, different people are bothered by it to different degrees

I can’t speak for everyone

[twilit dune]

This game can suck my d

[ancient night]

If you wanna go further into the rabbit hole of making locked 60fps games look good, a monitor that can strobe its backlight at 60hz in short bursts would reduce eye-tracking blur at the risk of looking flickery (Viewsonic XG2431 pops into my mind)

if you want the clear cut and basic without any VRR, V-sync, RTSS, yadda yadda, setting your monitor’s refresh rate to 60Hz or a multiple of that is an easy route

[midnight sparrow]

ok

[ancient night]

I’d say go for the highest multiple you can, so if your monitor is 144Hz, try 120Hz

[crimson yarrow]

Yeah but I wouldn't want to keep switching back and forth

[ancient night]

or if it’s 390Hz, do 360Hz

[crimson yarrow]

I think I'll just buy 120 or somewhat higher and set it to that

[ancient night]

That’s where variable refresh rate comes in handy, it can automatically set your monitor’s refresh rate to what the game’s outputting and you don’t need to think about it again. Pretty much any new monitor doing 120Hz or higher comes with it

whether they call it freesync, g-sync or just adaptive sync

you only really need to set it up once and you’re good,

the only thing that may vary by game is whether it has an fps limiter built in.

[crimson yarrow]

Oh, so freesync takes care of that entirely?

OK then

[ancient night]

this is how I have it set up:
freesync on
v-sync off in-game, v-sync on in radeon software (I have an rx 6600)
and if the game can exceed the refresh rate of the monitor, the following can be skipped if your game is inherently locked to 60fps:

1. set frame rate limit in-game to 3 below the monitor’s refresh rate
   or if 1) isn’t an option:
2. use external software (RTSS for me) to limit frame rate, RTSS allows this to be configured per application so you don’t need to change it every time you start a different game

For Doom Eternal I had to follow option 2

Overall it’s definitely worth doing if you have the option, my monitor is a BenQ EX2510 if that helps at all

I realise I’m not great at pacing myself when talking about certain topics

[sullen depot]

I always forget. Which combo has the highest dps? Pb rocket or pb ssg?

[digital jewel]

I keep trying to beat literally any master level on Ultra-Nightmare but I keep failing

[honest folio]

Please help I just got doom eternal and its not saving my game

[digital jewel]

Guys, I need tips...

[honest folio]

whenever I save and quit my save gets deleted

[digital jewel]

Oh

Are you playing on console?

[honest folio]

no pc

[digital jewel]

Hmmm

[sullen depot]

I can help

[digital jewel]

I'm not sure... What difficulty are you playing on?

[digital jewel]

Sure, thanks, I'd really appreciate it

[honest folio]

I dont think it matters but hurt me plenty

pleaseeee I wanna play the game

[digital jewel]

I don't need a guide on what exactly to do in each room or something, it's just that I need general tips

[sullen depot]

Yeah that's not our goal

[digital jewel]

Because I always die about half-way through each master level

[honest folio]

all I know is always move dont stand still

[digital jewel]

Or a little bit near the end

[sullen depot]

The goal is to help you deal with situations on the fly naturally through experience without the need of knowing which enemies are where

[honest folio]

gusy please

[digital jewel]

I think you should Google it before someone answers here, I wish I could help but that's never happened to me before...

The gave should save automatically whenever you reach a checkpoint and leave at any time

[sullen depot]

That's awfully strange man. Idk

[digital jewel]

Try googling it

[sullen depot]

Try Bethesda support

[honest folio]

Im verifying the intgreity of the files

Ill see what happens next

[digital jewel]

Yeah, I pretty much know which enemies are where, I just wonder if I'm doing it right

[sullen depot]

You're on pc right?

[digital jewel]

Because I don't have a rock solid strategy for all enemies

[honest folio]

yews

[digital jewel]

Me? I'm on console

[sullen depot]

Ah alright

[digital jewel]

Yes, that might work

I hope it all gets fixed for you man, it's an amazing game, everyone deserves to appreciate it

[rotund dust]

So imma about to try quickswap for the first time when I get back home

Any tips to get a steady camera and easier targeting?

[digital jewel]

PC or console?

[honest folio]

ı played it before on ps4 but never got far on it.

[sullen depot]

You on pc @rotund dust ?

[rotund dust]

Pc

[digital jewel]

Oh, why not?

[sullen depot]

Set your keys to specific weapons

[honest folio]

I sold my ps4

[digital jewel]

Oh, I see

[honest folio]

to buy a pc

[digital jewel]

Well, apparently it's better on PC anyways, so it's whatever

[honest folio]

yeh

[digital jewel]

Although I'm really not a PC player so I doubt I'd enjoy it as much on PC

I guess that depends

[sullen depot]

These are the keybindings I use @rotund dust https://youtu.be/ELBt4XL75VM

[honest folio]

naaaahh it doesnt matter you just play and dont miss the secrets

[digital jewel]

Yeah, I never miss the secrets

[rotund dust]

Yeah my issue is quickswapping and aiming together

[digital jewel]

Although I'm definitely not doing any Slayer gates on UN lol

[sullen depot]

Work on the easiest combo first. Which is ssg ballista

[rotund dust]

I always sometimes hit the wrong key too

[honest folio]

I dont know what slayer gates are haha

[digital jewel]

Don't worry, you'll find out

They're very challenging and really fun, don't miss out on those

[honest folio]

kk

[sullen depot]

It's not that intensive on the hands. All you do is hold down the fire button and switch between the two guns with different keys

[digital jewel]

I mean, very challenging depending on the difficulty, but yeah

[sullen depot]

Easy to aim with too

[rotund dust]

Yah but I can't really beat the game with just that combo

[sullen depot]

You don't need combos at all to beat the game bro

[digital jewel]

@rotund dust Is this your first time playing through the game or? Just asking

[rotund dust]

Tbh I already kinda do it vs marauder, I just don't shoot on the first frame

[digital jewel]

You can do any combo to beat the game, or no combos at all, don't worry too much about it if it's not that easy at first

[sullen depot]

All you need for the base game is good weapon utility, faltering, and resource management

[rotund dust]

I just dodge hit move and then hit ssg then batista rinse and repeat

[sullen depot]

Quick switching is an after thought

[digital jewel]

On my first playthrough, I wasn't quick-swapping at all, and on my second playthrough, I was literally only doing the SSG Ballista combo, and then I would chainsaw... I was hardly using anything else

[rotund dust]

Wdym ?

[digital jewel]

It just takes a bit of time to figure all this out, now I've got it

[rotund dust]

I mean I already kinda do the ssg + batista vs marauders

[digital jewel]

Yeah, that's good, that's arguably the best combo

[rotund dust]

Tho I don't shoot on first frame

[digital jewel]

Definitely the easiest to do

[rotund dust]

Aka I wait for green eye to pop

So dats hardly optimal

Aka I don't constantly do it

I only do it vs marauder

Also wdym by falter system

[digital jewel]

You should do it against the Mancubus as well, those guys really suck

[rotund dust]

And resources management

[novel sierra]

Hey Doomers, The slayer is showing up to fortnite in a week or so. Opinions?

[rotund dust]

Only way I die is from positionning

[digital jewel]

When you drop a grenade, the demons falter (stumble for a brief moment), it gives you a good opportunity to go in for a Blood Punch or another combo without having them shoot at you or attack you

[digital jewel]

Wait, really?

[rotund dust]

Yah that I knew

[novel sierra]

Yes.

[digital jewel]

Cringe!!!!!

[rotund dust]

Like I said I mainly die due to positioning

[novel sierra]

I disagree

[digital jewel]

The only good thing that can come out of this is this community growing even more greatly, maybe then those kids will learn what an actual great shooter is

But... It's Fortnite. So it's basically those cringe moves and dances from 2016 MP all over again

[digital jewel]

Wdym by positioning?

[rotund dust]

Not sure how to work on positioning tbh aside from getting used to the arena

[novel sierra]

It is a sacrifice I'm willing to take

[digital jewel]

Just imagine the Slayer dancing and doing some cringe shit

[novel sierra]

My favourite fictional character in Mt favourite battle royale?

[digital jewel]

Just make sure you're in the air as often as possible

[rotund dust]

Like getting ganged up by multiple monster in melee

[digital jewel]

Or if you're dealing with a lot of certain tough enemies, chill out somewhere and wait for them to come to you instead

And then attack

[rotund dust]

Especiallly in arena with tight corridor and lots of though enemies

[digital jewel]

Yeah, you should use specific mods to help you out then

Instead of the Arbalest on the Ballista, try out the Destroyer blade, for example

[rotund dust]

Usually cyber mancubus nearly kills me

[digital jewel]

I was also in the habit of using only one weapon mod on each gun tbh

[rotund dust]

From the aoe poison

[digital jewel]

Yeah, cyber Mancubi SUCK

[rotund dust]

Same for normal mancubus

[digital jewel]

Just falter one with a grenade and then meat hook for a blood punch

[rotund dust]

Yah

But when there is multiple

[digital jewel]

Or do the SGG Ballista until it's dead, shouldn't take long

Yeah, I can relate tbh, those 5-6 Cyber Mancubi in that Super Gore Nest master level arena are fucking annoying

[rotund dust]

Also how do I find the balance between dodging and firing

[digital jewel]

Just meat hook above the arena, and start shooting the demons below you with something powerful like the rocket launcher or ballista, and whenever you start to notice that you're beginning to fall back down, dash left and right

[rotund dust]

Like I dobt usually do combo when I'm creating distances between and the enemy I fight

[digital jewel]

And then just meat hook again

[rotund dust]

Wait

I thought u needed an enemy to meathook

[digital jewel]

You do, but those are easy to find lol

You can use anyone to meathook

[rotund dust]

Why dash left or right ?

[digital jewel]

Even tentacles and stuff

[digital jewel]

Because that will stop you from continuing to fall down for another 2 seconds or so, so it will give you more time in the air

[rotund dust]

Tentacle don't spawn at above the arena xD

Like in the air

[burnt moss]

Should I bind ballista or heavy cannon?

[digital jewel]

I know, I don't think you get what I mean.... You can use the meathook to get above the enemies, not just to go straight towards them

[digital jewel]

Bind?

[rotund dust]

Wdym ?

[digital jewel]

When you meathook onto a demon, you can jump while you're going towards them and you'll fly upwards instead of getting into their faces

[rotund dust]

? How do I get above them

[burnt moss]

Keybind? Where you assign a button to directly pull out a specific weapon?

[rotund dust]

?

[digital jewel]

So just do this: jump + meathook + jump

[rotund dust]

Really

[digital jewel]

And you'll get very high up

[burnt moss]

You guys really don’t know what bind is?

[digital jewel]

Oh, well idk, I play on console so I can't really give any advice on that. I know what a bind is, I just didn't get what you meant at first....

[burnt moss]

I play console too

[digital jewel]

Oh

[rotund dust]

Okey so I just stay above enemies ?

[digital jewel]

Yeah, works well most of the time

[rotund dust]

Das really all there us to it ?

[digital jewel]

It gives you more options for combat

[rotund dust]

Kinda lame

[digital jewel]

Nah, you don't always need to do it, but if you end up on low health, you can easily find a fodder demon on the ground to meathook towards to get more health and armor

[burnt moss]

I just saw a video of the Gladiator on Facebook. The player meathooked up into the air and got 3 LOBs off by the time he landed. It kept him out of harms way while he attacked.

[digital jewel]

Yeah, it honestly works really well with the Gladiator, lol

[rotund dust]

Lob ?

[burnt moss]

Lock on burst

Rocket launcher mod

[rotund dust]

Oh. Wait how can u get 3 off b4 landing xD

[burnt moss]

If you’re on Facebook join the Doom group and watch the video

[rotund dust]

Did je used the aerial slow rune or something ?

Not sure if that's a good one to use tbh

[burnt moss]

But basically he launched himself way up in the air and used dash strategically, which I think slowed him down

[sacred dirge]

Lob and slob

[burnt moss]

Why not

[rotund dust]

Tho it also slows lock on

[digital jewel]

All the runes can be pretty useful but I don't think the one that slows down time is that good tbh

[burnt moss]

Like all the runes, it’s a crutch. Some people need slow mo to aim better

[rotund dust]

So ik I use the rune equipment cdr and aerial control

Just not sure on the 3rd one

[burnt moss]

But no he did not use that rune

[rotund dust]

I usually use the speed on glory kill, but that's useless if I go into the air

[digital jewel]

I use faster glory kills, air mobility, and the one that gives you a speed boost after each glory kill

[rotund dust]

Btwvis it me or the speed boost also affects your weapon?

[digital jewel]

Well true, but once you get better at aiming, idk why most people would use it tbh

I mean I guess it's kinda subjective

[rotund dust]

Idk I seem to be swapping and shooting faster with the speed boost

[digital jewel]

I never had trouble with quick scoping with the precision bolt

[digital jewel]

Wdym?

I'm pretty sure it only affects your movement

[azure oriole]

It boosts your swap speed

[burnt moss]

I used to use seek and destroy until I got better at meathook. Even air control is a crutch for a lacking skill

[azure oriole]

but funny enough it reduces the speed of PB swaps

[digital jewel]

Oh, that's interesting

[digital jewel]

Idk about that, the air control one is ALWAYS useful

Skill won't let you move in all directions while you're in the air, lol

[rotund dust]

This

[rotund dust]

I dont mind tbh

[azure oriole]

[rotund dust]

I just wonder if there is better

[burnt moss]

But skill allows you to plan your trajectory so you don’t need to adjust drastically

[rotund dust]

Like faster glory kills or that rune that prevent u from dying

Btw why use the faster glory kills ?

It's less iframe time no ?

[azure oriole]

correct

[digital jewel]

Not always though... You could also say that you don't need the rune that makes blood punch kills give you health if you're skilled enough to not take any damage, lol

[rotund dust]

So why use it ?

[digital jewel]

It's not always purely about skill

[rotund dust]

Wouldn't the rune that allow u to survive 1 death be better for clutch plays ?

[burnt moss]

But that’s a legitimate point tho

[azure oriole]

it’s only usable once in UN

[digital jewel]

It's good for UN

[azure oriole]

using saving throw in any other difficulty besides UN is pretty useless unless you really really need it for some reason

[rotund dust]

Wdym by once ?

[digital jewel]

Well everyone takes damage now and then, so just about all the runes are useful in certain scenarios

[azure oriole]

It only has a single use per UN playthrough

[digital jewel]

It saves you from dying once, when it stops having any effect unless you die, then the effect resets

[azure oriole]

if you activate saving throw it’s gone

[rotund dust]

Once per run ? Not per mission ?

[digital jewel]

But you can't die on UN, so once it saves your ass, unequip it and take something else

[azure oriole]

Per run

[rotund dust]

Ouf

[burnt moss]

Only on UN

[rotund dust]

So how slower is the pb with the speed buff

[burnt moss]

That’s my point too. Any rune I could just git gud and I wouldn’t need it.

[rotund dust]

Also do I fall faster from the air when using it ?

[digital jewel]

No

[rotund dust]

The speed boost I mean

[digital jewel]

I'm pretty sure you don't

[rotund dust]

How slower is pb with it

[slow sigil]

Oh no, less iframes while i am practically stunned, how absolutely horrific!!!

[digital jewel]

I use that rune because it makes me feel faster

Like, who the fuck wants to sit through that Tyrant glory kill animation for like 5+ fucking seconds without that rune?

[digital jewel]

Well I'm not sure, I've never even noticed a difference tbh

[azure oriole]

It’s noticeably slower

PB rocket feels yucky with it

[sacred dirge]

Stop that's to much

[azure forum]

To be fair, as long as you use Air Control and Equipment fiend, the third rune can basically be anything else - although dazed & confused and Fueled B are very good as a third rune.

[shell radish]

my main save is bugged so that i have air control equipment fiend savagery and blood fueled :D.

[rotund dust]

Might go for extra life on blood punch tbh

[rotund dust]

Yah I like to make em suffer while I execute them,so the longer the better :)

Also vs tyrant I use the crucible

[slow sigil]

Why, it's not like they do a lot against you

[azure forum]

The only times you want to GK are if you are recharging hammer, or need BPs

[severe ermine]

i like it

[versed lily]

so for the max credits milestone in horde mode, do the 20 lives need to all be in one life? cause it shopws progress when i only finished with 7

so can i do that 2 more times then get it?

[rotund dust]

They killed my bunny :(

Rip daisy

[slow sigil]

No evidence the tyrant specifically did

[slow sigil]

But it's cool

[rotund dust]

Meh all the same

A demon is a demon

[timid plank]

Nah, I used it all the time for my nightmare and ultra violence when I first started cause there were some arenas that I just couldn’t do in one try but the saving throw gave me a second chance that helped me get past

[azure forum]

Some of them are - prowlers. don't get me wrong, you can also fo it if ypu like it or if you want to rest your fingers

[rotund dust]

The doomslayer doesn't discriminate across their rank

[azure oriole]

Hence why I said unless you really really need it.

[rotund dust]

Gotta drive em to extinction to avenge my sweet bunny

[slow sigil]

Racist

[rotund dust]

A world without demon is better world than with

Bruh,we really arguing about racism in doom ?

It's a game where u kill demon and I wanna enjoy my God damn time with it

My game my runes either way

[slow sigil]

Didnt get the sarcasm

[rotund dust]

Who cares

My game, my runes

[azure forum]

Saving throw I think is really the most useless rune - aside from UN. You basically play with 2 runes at that point.

[rotund dust]

Yah can't do nothing bout it either way

[azure oriole]

[stoic patio]

The Tyrant is one of my favourite demons, but not only for his appearance, but cause i have fun fighting him, that's why i never crucible him, i just go ballista-SSG

[rotund dust]

I dont like bullet sponge

[stoic patio]

yeah...

[rotund dust]

I like the execution thoo

[stoic patio]

i love the berserk one

[rotund dust]

Just jnot worth the wait

What berserk ?

[stoic patio]

when you punch his leg and his torso

[azure forum]

Do whatever makes you have fun son

[sacred dirge]

FA

[azure forum]

Fun Always

[rotund dust]

Btw how do I tell wut orb give which buff

And wut does each buff do ?

[azure oriole]

Yellow is speed

purple is quad damage

red is berserk

[rotund dust]

What kind of speed from yellow ?

[sacred dirge]

[rotund dust]

Move speed? Or attack speed ? And wut does berserk do ?

[azure forum]

Easier if you just google it son

[mental karma]

berserk makes you really strong and able to kill most demons with a punch

[burnt moss]

Glory kills all around

[jaunty vapor]

Do you have a picture or a video of this? I've never heard of this happening

[strange gale]

tbf this isn't really true, wavedashing/bboosting/punchboosting/air GKs are all really good for redirecting air movement

bboost applies 25 m/s vel (horizontal ground/air accel soft caps are 9.5 m/s) so you can just S key to stop in the air, then bboost wherever

caco frontal GK into pboost is pretty ok

[jaunty vapor]

Air Control will always be "best" for movement, but that said there's definitely ways to redirect/utilize the movement without it and I think it's a shame AC is just so over powering.

I probably shouldn't complain cause generally I love the movement. But I think learning ACless movement is very fun as well and you get a deeper appreciation of the games movement tech, especially wall dashes

[shell radish]

I can get one later when i play again

[thick patio]

Fuck the mars level

[shell radish]

Master level or normql?

[thick patio]

Normal

[flint flame]

Kid named the mars level

[strange gale]

fing

[thick patio]

The firey dude with the blades is so goddamn tanky

I unload everything into him and don't even stagger him

And have no bfg ammo

[jaunty vapor]

We talking Baron of Hell or Dread Knight? I imagine Baron but wanna make sure

[thick patio]

Idfk

[jaunty vapor]

Useful

[thick patio]

There was 2 of them

[jaunty vapor]

Is it gray or orange?

[thick patio]

Gray

Then becomes orange after a bunch of damage

Looks like lava

[digital jewel]

I used to not use air control at all, I didn't think I really needed it

[flint flame]

A low level combo would be to just chaingun him till he dies

[jaunty vapor]

Ok. Lock On Burst "spam" is generally the easiest way to deal with them, but it does take 3-4 bursts (i.e. 9-12 rockets)

[azure oriole]

Definitely Baron of Hell.

[digital jewel]

But now that I re-bought Eternal...

My eyes have been opened. The Air Control has helped me to see.

[azure oriole]

Air control is so cringe

Air control is so last year

[sacred dirge]

[jaunty vapor]

That's fair. I can't deny that it's still very fun to turn on a dime with AC and keep your momentum

[thick patio]

How do I get more BIG FUCKIN GUN ammo

[azure oriole]

👍

[sacred dirge]

The big fucking gun store

[flint flame]

It’s meant to be rare

[thick patio]

Wut?

[flint flame]

The ammo is supposed to be limited in availability

[jaunty vapor]

You can see it on the map. But you don't need it to fight Barons.

If you check the pinned messages, you can actually see the health and damage values for enemies vs. guns. Maybe that'll give you context into the best way to fight them

[digital jewel]

For master levels or what exactly do you mean?

[random vault]

why you yelling the name

[sacred dirge]

Because gert

[digital jewel]

What runes do you recommend for master levels on UN? I'm struggling with this, smh

[random vault]

wym

[azure forum]

The only reason to learn to play without Air control is if you are playing battlemode. Other than that, the rune is just too good to not use.

[azure oriole]

I still don't need it

[sacred dirge]

His hipster opinion is valid

[digital jewel]

Honestly, I think I already know how to play without it, I didn't even touch the rune for about half a year the first time I had Eternal

[strange gale]

"the only reason" i did it for fun

[digital jewel]

But maybe I'd have to relearn how to play without it anyways

[thick patio]

I'm just gonna get back on a bit and ignore everything because I'm a dumbass, get mad get back off

[digital jewel]

And I don't play battlemode anyway tbh so whatever

[jaunty vapor]

Generally what youll want to do is backpedal via meathook jumps (staying in the air generally makes them not path toward you) and shoot them while backpedaling. If they get too close then prioritize backing off vs. shooting.

If you're low obviously chainsaw as needed. But also if you take damage and are low on health, chainsaw can be used to give iFrames and a little health, so don't hesitate to use it 'early'. Better to have a surplus of ammo rather than not enough.

[shell radish]

quad chaingun works well on barons

[jaunty vapor]

Haven't done this in awhile I hope this works...

@opal galleon runes

[digital jewel]

Oh, okay

[shell radish]

better than using up every single one of your rockets

[thick patio]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-markiplier-gif-14835823

[azure oriole]

Or spam all overpowered guns you have.

[digital jewel]

I don't use the second throw or whatever rune until I'm pretty sure that I'm about to die, then I just stop and equip the rune lol

[cyan frigate]

im interested in seeing this as well please ping me when you do show it 👍 or dm

[digital jewel]

Wait

[azure oriole]

Me playing taras nabad master level

[digital jewel]

Your game is bugged and you have 4 runes equipped??

You might want to share the mystery behind that, buddy :)

[jaunty vapor]

Nutmilk might be sleeping so no copy pasta from them.

Generally Air Control first
Equipment Fiend 2nd (especially since meathook mastery contributes to e fiend)
Dazed and Confused 3rd, though that's preference. It generally the best option

[shell radish]

It says i have equipment fiend savegery and air control active but then when i glory kill i also get blood fueled speed thing

[jaunty vapor]

If you really on blood Fueled that's a fine 3rd option. Chrono Strike is "fine" though most people hate using it

[azure oriole]

Yeah I got 4 runes equipped, the 4th one is purple 😎

This joke clearly flopped

[cyan frigate]

do you have any idea about what you did to cause it?

[cyan frigate]

i enjoyed it, tanku

[digital jewel]

I'll try this out tomorrow, thanks... I just hate that I die for the most bullshit causes tbh lol

I never die in the same area on UN master levels

[jaunty vapor]

I will say while the runes help it won't be an instant win or anything

[digital jewel]

And I've never hated Pain Elementals more in my whole life

[jaunty vapor]

But dazed/confused I feel helps since it means you don't have to rush to glory kill/finish things off

[digital jewel]

Yeah, true

[shell radish]

its very nice because i love all 4 runes the most

[rapid grail]

Seek and destroy, blood fueled, dazed and confused because a random staggered imp can be helpful

[random vault]

doom eternal

[cyan frigate]

two arbalest usually put them in a glory kill state. or two lock on bursts kill instantly. 👍

[shell radish]

No clue its been like that for a looong time

[cyan frigate]

dang. very interested to see if this can be replicated

[digital jewel]

Yeah, I know, it's just a pain in the ass to do when there are like 3-4 cyber Mancubi harassing me meanwhile lol

The Super Gore Nest, smfh

I always beat that area though, it's just that they've generally gotten more frustrating

[random vault]

The Super Shotgun.

[random vault]

shaking my f head

[digital jewel]

Before I started playing Nightmare, I literally didn't even think about them, they're pretty bugged and easy to ignore... Now anymore

[cyan frigate]

haha understandable. you can bfg that entire part go to the bridge on the left and bfg across the arena kills all cybermancs and pains

[azure forum]

There's an easy way to clear that arena if you use BFG. You can fire it from one side to the other (where the little bridge is on the left), and it will clear all cyber manc, Pain elementals and half of the cacos

[digital jewel]

Yeah, I still haven't fully figured out when exactly I should use up my BFG shots

Because I can get past any area just fine... Until I can't

Oh

I'll definitely do that next time...

Although idk if it's worth saving the BFG shot for the final fight instead of using it the first time you get there

[cyan frigate]

theres a bfg that spawns in the bottom right by where the buff totem spawns near the end of beating the level, and another underneath where you put the gore nest keys in

[digital jewel]

Hmm yeah, now that I think about it, I won't even need to use the BFG shot during that final thing where you just run to escape the gore nest, so I might as well just use the BFG shot then and there

[cyan frigate]

yup! your call gamer 🤘

[shell radish]

I died on the escape part on ultra nightmare 😭

idk how

its fine tho i beat the level the next attempt

[azure forum]

You have more than enough BFG shots in that level. I recommend to use 1 there, then the other use it on the river of toxic water where ypu fight two cacos and a Doom hunter first. When you kill them, the cyber manc spawn with some dread knogths and Pinky specters. Fire a BFG in the direction of the river. It will clear that arena. Then I suggest to use a third on either the arena whete the Archie is on top of the building, or use 1 to kill one of the two marauders. Save the rest for possibly 1 archie at the end In the final battle.

[digital jewel]

Tbh the two Marauders shouldn't be a big deal

You already fight two of them in the DLC so aside from the toxic waste this should be all that different

[azure forum]

You have 5 total BFG shots if I remember correctly if you start with 2

[digital jewel]

Although... Are there imps or any annoying shooting fodder demons in that area as well when you fight the Marauders?

I fucking hate it when they summon dogs because of them

[shell radish]

No

only zombies

[azure forum]

Nah, there are only zombies. The battle isn't That bad In my opinion, but I know players struggle there. Also, I think Bloodshot suggested in the past to not grab the quad damage before the marauders until ypu are about to fight them. Then you can use Quad to kill one of them or possibly both.

[digital jewel]

Oh, good

Oh, that's a good idea

Where exactly is the quad damage though? BEFORE the toxic waste area or in it? I haven't been in that area in a long while

[opal galleon]

"For survivability, it's unanimous that Air Control is first. Most are Equipment Fiend 2nd (the SSG Mastery works with the rune which pushes it over the edge of good), and 3rd choice is basically preference. Though I will say faster Savagery doesn't really help (less I frames from GKs). I highly recommend Dazed and Confused"

BloodShot9001

(And no I was just getting lunch lol)

[azure forum]

Yep, in the arena before where you get berserk and quad

[digital jewel]

Thanks, Mr. Nutmilk

[digital jewel]

Oh yeah

[opal galleon]

[digital jewel]

I'll definitely make sure to keep the quad damage for later then

[shell radish]

Doesnt savagery help because it gives less time for enemies to get closer to you?

[onyx marsh]

did you try the "saving throw" rune?

[cyan frigate]

you can even use the berserk on them

[opal galleon]

Less I-frames

[pale bronze]

hello?

[opal galleon]

[pale bronze]

._.

[opal galleon]

..what?

[pale bronze]

whats up with your face?

[opal galleon]

You mean my profile picture?

[shell radish]

it also does what i mentioned

[pale bronze]

ye

[opal galleon]

She's eating bread

[shell radish]

No

[cyan frigate]

please dont talk to my babyboy nutmilk like that hes amazing

[pale bronze]

O_o

[opal galleon]

You have plenty of other ways to get yourself out of that situation other than just sacrificing a rune slot for that specific purpose, like most people just use savagery for the sake of game pace iirc

[jaunty vapor]

On your lunch break huh? Likely excuse

[onyx marsh]

It helped me get through the last sprint, that and the chain gun shield

[opal galleon]

[pale bronze]

i feel like your lying to me

[opal galleon]

Its not lewd dawg

[digital jewel]

The chaingun shield is a blessing from God

[pale bronze]

if you say so

[shell radish]

Its mostly for game pace but the added perk doesnt hurt

[opal galleon]

[onyx marsh]

Is a person not allowed to deepthroat a baguette in peace?

[digital jewel]

She's being nutmilked

[opal galleon]

Literally this is why I don't chat here anymore

[pale bronze]

sorry

[cyan frigate]

you are sorely missed fyi 😞

[jaunty vapor]

Enemies don't path toward you while glory killing. The only time someone "gets surrounded" while glory killing is of the glory kill an enemy that's near or surrounded by other enemies, which Savagery wouldn't help with anyways.

Savagery isn't THAT detrimental but it also provides no actual benefit (and in rare cases can be worse compared to the iFrames you get from not using it).

[onyx marsh]

And this is why I'm going to chat here a lot more often

[pale bronze]

still aint used to questionable profile pics

[opal galleon]

I lurk daily I just don't join in conversations

[cyan frigate]

its nice to know that youre still here in some way your essence is here nice very epic good

[shell radish]

Ive already beaten on un since then, thx for the tip anyway tho

[onyx marsh]

Cheers brother

[pale bronze]

if yall ever played cod, you would know that my profile pic is ghost/simon

[opal galleon]

It's nice you still care

[shell radish]

Im like 90% sure i have had demons go around me during a glory kill

[onyx marsh]

I'm.not into fishing games

[opal galleon]

Mine is Pomu Rainpuff

[cyan frigate]

always will 😎 youre the posterchild for this server imo

[pale bronze]

C.O.D/ call of duty?

[cyan frigate]

gave me a good chuckle thank you

[jaunty vapor]

Well after 1200 hours of speedrunning, doing modded content, etc, I can say Savagery has harmed more in modded content than it has helped.

[pale bronze]

i know this is doom eternal chat but cmon man

[azure oriole]

i missed on 99% on #doom-eternal things, could someone tell me what is goin on here?

[cyan frigate]

i have over 1700 hours on eternal im suprised my brain isnt pudding

[onyx marsh]

baguettes, depression, and fish

[opal galleon]

Dude I have 1.7k too

[pale bronze]

the milk man is reacting to my messages

[cyan frigate]

absolute gamers

[digital jewel]

I don't even use savagery because of any benefits, I just want to be fast

Like I said, those fucking Tyrant glory kills are way too long

[pale bronze]

can i post gifs in here?

[digital jewel]

I don't really use savagery on UN though

[fast birch]

Hello

[digital jewel]

Welcome home, great Slayer

[onyx marsh]

I havent lasted long enough to pick more than 2 runes on UN

[cyan frigate]

i use air control, blood fueled, and savagery no matter what. and i play exclusively on un, i do it for the most fast paced experience possible

[azure oriole]

idk what am i doing here at 3am

[opal galleon]

We are the same person

[azure oriole]

is #doom-eternal always that weird at night?

Air control? Never heard of her

[opal galleon]

Air conditioning

[digital jewel]

https://tenor.com/view/mgrr-metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-raiden-metal-gear-raiden-gif-24363227

[versed lily]

is there a good tactic for these two marauders at end of lvl 1 tag1?

[digital jewel]

The REAL Raiden.

[cyan frigate]

im nutmilk junior. or youre zadoomo junior. either way i liek it

[opal galleon]

I'm retired from DE so latter lol

[digital jewel]

Just get them to charge at you in a straight line and you'll be able to stun both of them with a single shot

[cyan frigate]

another swing and a hit

[versed lily]

ooo good point, i kept trying to separate them but kept getting flanked, i had this on UV but nightmare is taking longer 😛

[azure oriole]

idk what to type

im out of ideas.

[digital jewel]

Yeah, don't try to separate them, I doubt that's even possible with Marauders tbh

Try to take on both of them at the same time

[jaunty vapor]

Tbh I think my brain IS pudding because of the time spent on Eternal

[versed lily]

oh yeah that went wayyyy better

[pale bronze]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-anime-ait-die-anit-die-die-gif-22381859

[versed lily]

got one down asap

[shell radish]

Wth

[azure oriole]

i only have 206 hours in de

[pale bronze]

i love this so much

[azure oriole]

dead meme

[shell radish]

i have like 600 hours and thats the most ive ever done in any game ever how do you have 1700

[pale bronze]

yeah yeah

[cyan frigate]

pudding gaming

[jaunty vapor]

You play for 600 hours about 3 times

[shell radish]

@jaunty vapor wth = what the hell

[pale bronze]

memes never last for more than a week nowadays

[cyan frigate]

almost daily un master levels, dlc un’s, base game un, etc.

[azure oriole]

doom got boring kinda

[jaunty vapor]

😱

[pale bronze]

no new content is the problem

[jaunty vapor]

I was ? Because why is it surprising someone has played for a long time.

[azure oriole]

obliterating demons aint that fun as it was for the first time

[shell radish]

ahh ok

[digital jewel]

Great job!

[fast birch]

Did doom eternal have crossplay?

[azure oriole]

Or trying to solve puzzles, once you know it and pass it many times, it gets boring

[cyan frigate]

not for me. 👍 still enjoy it everyday. mastering tech, or going faster than you did before keeps/kept it fresh for me

[azure oriole]

its not because of lack of content it is the game for me, all you do is ki demons in very cool way

[shell radish]

idk how peope can have so many hours into a game

[opal galleon]

Long nights replaying SGN ML UN for half a year

[pale bronze]

doom guy is now in a cofin

[azure oriole]

i cant type on phone my-bad.

[cyan frigate]

cofin

[opal galleon]

cofin

[pale bronze]

what the heck happens after that

[azure oriole]

cofin eternal.

[azure oriole]

he goes to sleep

[cyan frigate]

ki demons in a very cool way

[azure oriole]

He's suffers in silence.

[jaunty vapor]

I usually commit 80 hours to each game I play anyways, barring it being a super short game.

Eternal just happened to be fun enough to Speedrun (plus there's modded content) to keep playing, learning, exploring, etc

[pale bronze]

oh well

[shell radish]

Thats fair, im on xbox so i dont have access to mods and such, and id have any interest in speedrunning

[digital jewel]

I think people overexaggerate how hard games in general are

Eternal isn't even as hard as some people make it out to be tbh

Same with Dark Souls

[pale bronze]

third person mode, thoughts?

[flint flame]

No

[shell radish]

bc of games journalists lol

[digital jewel]

True

[digital jewel]

For Eternal? That seems bad

[azure oriole]

anyways, im off gn guys.

[jaunty vapor]

There's a console command that enables third person mode. It's fine

[digital jewel]

Sleep well

[versed lily]

AYYYYYY @digital jewel after i got them both down i did the rest first try

ty fer the advice

[digital jewel]

Great job! You're welcome :)

[nocturne lynx]

I mean if you were inexperienced and turned the difficulty up to Nightmare (if you did UN on your first playthrough you would be an absolute moron not worth mentioning) for your first playthrough you’d probably find it really hard.

[azure oriole]

I did just that on my first playthrough

[versed lily]

if its not coming from someone who usually plays challenging games/ones with a learning curve then i dont listen. Some people like to just walk through vidya games

[gray rivet]

For this game is ultra violence considered the normal difficulty?

Or is it classified as 'hard'

[azure oriole]

Probably hard.

[shell radish]

‘Hard’ i would say

[gray rivet]

Ah ok thsnks

[azure oriole]

Hurt me plenty would be the Normal difficulty.

[digital jewel]

Well yeah, obviously, but no sane person would play on a difficulty above Ultra-Violence anyways if that's their first playthrough

[nocturne lynx]

Masochists exist.

[digital jewel]

Ultra-Violence is hard, Hurt Me Plenty is normal

[versed lily]

ehh u learn quicker if u play above your skill level tho

[shell radish]

i have a friend who did nightmare first playthrough and its so excruciating to watch him play

then his gamepass subscription ran out and he never finished

[digital jewel]

Nightmare is just wayyyy too hard for new players... It's obviously not unbeatable but fucking come on

[shell radish]

He did manage to get to the gladiator tho

(I helped a lot)

[digital jewel]

Ultra-Violence is already hard for new players but you can still have lots of fun with Ultra-Violence, even if you're completely new

Nightmare is just insane for that skill level

I'm suprised he got that far

[shell radish]

The game gets much harder afterwards tho, so idk if he would have made it

[digital jewel]

Yeah, true

[shell radish]

no way he could ever beat tag 1 or 2 or any master level on nm

[digital jewel]

Honestly, I don't know if I'll ever be able to beat the first DLC and maybe even the actual campaign on UN

[gray rivet]

I'm currently doing working on an Ultra-Ultra violence run (UV no deaths)

[shell radish]

Campaign gets easier after doomhunter base, thats the hardest part

[digital jewel]

Samur is going to kick my fucking ass one way or another, and the campaign is long as shit, I'd probably snap from losing that much progress

[versed lily]

playing horde before the dlc was a funny move

now i know half these maps 😛

[digital jewel]

Well that's kinda true I guess, you do get your full arsenal and stuff

[gray rivet]

For me the blood pit is one of the hardest in the early game

If not THE hardest

[shell radish]

ive never died there so i wouldnt know

[digital jewel]

I'll just ignore some mods altogether once I try UN though

Like, why the fuck would I risk dying because I used and upgraded fucking remote detonation on UN?

I use all mods generally but definitely not when so much is at stake

[shell radish]

Some mods i feel are only useful once you have your full arsenal (and mastery)

[novel sierra]

I haven't tried un yet

[digital jewel]

I've tried UN twice

[novel sierra]

I'm too scared

[digital jewel]

Not because I expected to beat it, I wanted to see how far I would get

[gray rivet]

I have not tried un yet either

[gray rivet]

How many hours of play time? If I may

[novel sierra]

30 so far

[gray rivet]

I have like 60

[digital jewel]

On my first attempt a year ago, I died mid way through Exultia, and now that I re-bought the game, I finished Exultia but accidentally deleted the save

Meh

[shell radish]

Your nerves are the worst enemy, just think about it like your just playing normally, or just pause the game and if your rlly stressing just load checkpoint by exiting game

[gray rivet]

My nerves fuck with me, even on UV

[digital jewel]

I'm pretty sure UN deletes your save if you leave lol

[azure oriole]

No it won't.

Unless you used "Exit to menu/Desktop"

[digital jewel]

I don't think anything is going to fuck my nerves harder than that time I lost 6 hours of progress in Dead Space 2

[novel sierra]

That would be horrific to find out once re opening the game

[gray rivet]

rip

[digital jewel]

Oh

[shell radish]

if you manually exit the game it saves at last checkpoint

[gray rivet]

Anyone ever witness 240+ Hz gameplay? Does it make 144hz look choppy?

[azure oriole]

Once, the game suddenly crashed when I literally wants to beat the Gladiator, the literal second phase and I'm about to kill him, it suddenly crashes, I panicked, and look at the save file, it still there.

[versed lily]

how far didya get?

[azure oriole]

I'm happy to see it there

[warped mist]

i always play ultra violence

[gray rivet]

Nice

[warped mist]

nightmare seems too much imo

[novel sierra]

I was running sgn ml on uv but my game crashed at the last part of the level

[gray rivet]

I'm trying UV deathless, then I'm gonna try nightmare

[novel sierra]

Now I just don't wanna do it again

[digital jewel]

On my first try, I got mid way through Exultia, and I finished Exultia on my second attempt... But I deleted the save afterwards by accident

[versed lily]

ahh nice! im achievment hunting n doing tag1/2 then ima try un on base game

[digital jewel]

I never even beat the game on Nightmare before that, I just hopped straight from UV to trying out UN

[warped mist]

i play eternal on xbox but can also play it through xbox app, dont know if the steam version is any different but it runs well with my new asus laptop

[novel sierra]

Bad decision

[versed lily]

awesome! i beat it on nightmare my second run through, but had to use sentinal armor for the marauder 😛

[digital jewel]

The same happened to me

[digital jewel]

Yeah, I know, but I was just curious to see how far I would get, I wasn't even mad when I died or anything lol

[azure oriole]

Alt+F4 or crashing doesn’t delete the save

[novel sierra]

For the marauder? I don't see the marauder as that much of the threat on any difficulty

[digital jewel]

The Marauder is pretty easy

[versed lily]

wait maybe im getting name wrong, guy with the big shield n two waves

[warped mist]

the only times i remember using sentinal armor was khan maykr and the final boss of TAG 1

[novel sierra]

I agree

[digital jewel]

Gladiator

[azure oriole]

Gladiator

[versed lily]

ahhhh

yeah i just killed those 2 marauders on nightmare with no sentinal armor, so i hope thats not where im havin trouble 😛

[digital jewel]

Tbh the Khan Maykr is the only pain in the ass boss in the campaign

[warped mist]

its been very long since i played vanilla campaign but i remember her kicking my ass

[digital jewel]

The Icon of Sin is hard sometimes only because of all the demons in the area

[versed lily]

just gotta consistently kill the ads

[novel sierra]

The only time I struggled with a murader is where the ai broke and he wasn't attacking me in any way and was just blocking my shots

[versed lily]

on khan mayker

[azure oriole]

All of the bosses is hard until you learn the best strategy and combos to defeat them.

[digital jewel]

Well yeah, but I mean in comparison

The only boss pretty much always remains hard for me is Samur...

[versed lily]

yee i need to start using my ice on the doom hunters, but im a frag only boy so far lol

[warped mist]

maurader was scarry at first but as time went on i realized how he worked, super shotty + ballista combo

[azure oriole]

I put IoS the hardest, 2nd on Doom Hunter, 3rd on Khan Maykr, and then 4th Gladiator.

[digital jewel]

That's why I've always loved the Marauder

[novel sierra]

And I was being harassed by never ending prowlers

[digital jewel]

Literally a skill checkpoint on your first playthrough

[warped mist]

yeah i thought i was gonna hate him but i got used to him easily

in fact marauder was almost universally hated

[novel sierra]

Mad=bad

[warped mist]

until people realized how he works

[gray rivet]

I'm fine with the marauder's inclusion in the game

[digital jewel]

I never thought I would hate him, it was pretty easy for me to notice how better at the game I've gotten every time I faced him, because I killed him faster and better with every encounter

[flint flame]

Where? When?

[azure oriole]

Khan Maykr is built like a sheet of paper, if you have proper swaps you can delete her so fast

[warped mist]

at launch i remember him being hated by almost everyone

[flint flame]

I was there at launch

[digital jewel]

Khan Maykr is easy now that I have my own strategy for her

Literally just lock on rocket spam

[novel sierra]

Game journalists

[flint flame]

Sure