doom-eternal

[burnt moss]

It’s the DLCs

[azure oriole]

[woeful brook]

A archville worst fear

[azure oriole]

Actually his worst fear is my wittle finger

[woeful brook]

anothar of his worst fear is

❄️ 💣

I'm currently playing on a new slot with new controls cause i need to be good at the game

So sorry if I don't get your messages

[flint flame]

Tag you’re it

[primal relic]

It be my birthday 😎

For my one present I want everyone with the sentinel role to vanish

[bleak star]

Oh yeah currently doing Super-Gore nest Master level on nightmare and for the very first major arena I got through it all without taking any damage and, I think I know why it feels so good to play this game again

I think for just a moment I git the Slayer's power for just a moment

[reef notch]

Just decided to replay the game after finishing it when it came out. Probably gonna start streaming it on Twitch seeing how much my friends and I enjoy it

[bleak star]

It feels amazing

Ive barely started playing again after months and I'll be real I was struggling to properly quick switch on all of my weapons like I used too but I'm getting so used to do it again consistently thanks to the master levels tbh

[azure oriole]

Gaming

[bleak star]

GAMING

[last hamlet]

Youre it

[warped sage]

gamig

[steep tide]

okay i just did a level with only famine mode on (after already having done that while i used the bethesda launcher) and again, just like with the achievement for completing the game, i didn't get the achievement for completing a level with only famine

can i do anything about that

[azure oriole]

good morning doom chat.

[steep tide]

not really

[frigid kite]

Good morning Raiden Shogun

[valid wren]

those reviews are from 2020

when the game launched, some people just didnt know how the game worked

[slow sigil]

it's story is... existable

[thorny crag]

Ok so DE keeps freezing when the game loaes

Loads*
First of all i changed from a completely shitass pc to a good one today

Rtx 3060, 16gb ram all that jazz and the game says "Failed to load the game" or something along those lines when i go to main menu

And then after several seconds it freezes

Anybody encountered similiar problems?

Ah yeah and i got a BSOD two times already when trying to open up the game too

[dim solar]

Hey, at least it's better than fromsoftware stories

[vast kettle]

What does SSG stand for?

[azure oriole]

Super Shotgun

Holy fuck

Oh thank god I can curse here

Thank you for the emojis fellas

[jaunty vapor]

Oh thank God, who knows what woulda happened if we couldn't say swears, woulda ruined this WHOLE place for me

[azure oriole]

guys was the super shotgun always sawed off or id decided to make it sawed off in doom 2016 and eternal

[flint flame]

It was sawed off in the classics

[burnt moss]

To be fair, lack of memes did ruin this place for me

[azure oriole]

Volden eye

[burnt moss]

Hi Raiden. You play MK11?

[azure oriole]

MK11?

[burnt moss]

Mortal Kombat 11

[azure oriole]

no

[burnt moss]

Where is your name from then

[azure oriole]

a game that pepole really hate on. genshin Impact

[burnt moss]

Oh

[azure oriole]

Anyway ppl tell me to ban myself for being too good

[sacred dirge]

🇫 🇦

[severe ermine]

by any chance are you attracted to any genshin impact character

[sacred dirge]

🗿

[azure oriole]

From where this question came from?

[stoic haven]

İ did download doom eternal deluxe version on ps4 and i have did play 30 min and first mission is completed but its saying data downloading how can i look its %?

[severe ermine]

its what i've seen from every genshin player ever (exaggeration)

[normal vapor]

i have recently purchased doom eternal, and my, one of the best decision of my life

[severe ermine]

oh and cant forget the memes made about it

[sacred dirge]

Yes it was

[azure oriole]

Good answer

The react videos on those are the best. So much entertainment. Some of the bad reviews were absurd. You could clearly tell that reviewer spent all 2 hours playing and then having an opinion of the game..

[azure oriole]

Metal Gear has Raiden too

[random vault]

raiden from genshin impact

[azure oriole]

Yeah just saying Raiden isn't only a character in MK

[random vault]

i should play genshin impact

[azure oriole]

Most people who refer metal gear rising Raiden tho have him as pfp.

[random vault]

❔

[azure oriole]

Off topic but I just got Rivers of Blood to +10 in Elden Ring

[random vault]

nice

i started playing demon souls

[azure oriole]

The remake?

[random vault]

mhm, on ps5

[sacred dirge]

There was a few quake and classic doom add on and articles released. Which most likely means no new news for new doom

[azure oriole]

I wish I could play DeS remake...

[azure oriole]

Shit. I mean wasn't expecting Doom news but news of id's next game

[random vault]

this game ishard :c

[azure oriole]

You'll find an item early in Boletarian Palace that you def wanna give to Stockpile Thomas, wink

[random vault]

what

im sorry that probably sounded rude i just dont understand the game that well im still very new

[azure oriole]

You have been to Nexus?

The hub area

[random vault]

yes i think

[azure oriole]

Stockpile Thomas is the character you can store items with and Boletarian Palace is the first world you enter via the Nexus

I'll let you discover the rest

[azure forum]

I think I'm going to start using the Unmaykr after watching mayos video on how underrated it is

[slow sigil]

average mayo watcher

[azure forum]

Style points as he said

[jaunty vapor]

Is slow a style?

[azure forum]

It's a playstyle

[dim solar]

same

it's like, no fun allowed

😔

[azure forum]

Papu time to put back the unmaykr in the weapon wheel

[azure oriole]

pistol is better than umaykr

[dim solar]

oh boy, I saw that video, I love how at the beginning he tries to sell the idea that TAG1 redefined the whole meta and that now shit like rem det and full auto have more place to shine

motherfucker no, if anything they became even more worthless, with the exception of microwave

I was like, WTF is this dude smoking?? I want some

[timid oracle]

Finally beat tar as nadbad master level

[sacred dirge]

[slow sigil]

and with microwave... well heatblast also wasnt that great to start with so who cares

[static trout]

unmaykr is ass

[floral cave]

Doesn't it work with the infinite ammo cheat code tho? Does that make it a bit better

[static trout]

yeah it does but still trash

[slow sigil]

bfg destroys arenas faster then unmaykr even then 🤷‍♀️

[floral cave]

Haven't gotten it so I don't know anything about it but hey it's your opinion and I respect it

[floral cave]

True but from what I've seen of it it looks fun to use

[slow sigil]

not really

[dim solar]

only reason microwave became relevant was because developers decided to kinda force you to use it lol

[slow sigil]

it's just an automatic weapon with a lot of spread

[dim solar]

and even then you can still ignore it for the most part

[floral cave]

The unmaykr is really that bad? So I should just not try to get it

[slow sigil]

the slayer gates are fun though

[sacred dirge]

Forgot I was talking in general for a second. Fuck that was close

Ew

[floral cave]

I've only done one of them. It was a fun challenge

[slow sigil]

yeah, cause the slayer gates really are

[azure forum]

It is bad though. Let's be honest for a prize Weapon for beating the slayer gates, they should have just given you the BFG

[floral cave]

Wow. Never realized that it was THAT bad. Do some people enjoy it or does EVERYONE hate it?

[dim solar]

everyone except underthemayo maybe

[azure forum]

Ypu can use it for fun, some people enjoy it and accept it is bad, but some others say it is good and make an argument on it.

I'm about to start using it tbh. Make those BFG ammo usable somehow

[floral cave]

Ive never used it and never seen it on action, but I'm sure it has some redeeming qualities

[slow sigil]

it really has not, trust me

[jaunty vapor]

The thing with Unmaykr is that it's a weapon that you can more or less underperform with (i.e. miss shots, or not hit all 3 shots on targets, etc), and even if you have perfect aim and know exactly how to use the weapon (which takes time, practice, knowledge) the BFG outperforms it with less investment, on top of being even better the more you practice with BFG, etc.

[azure forum]

Give it a try yourself. You might not get it at first, but as ypu play more and you get into higher level play in eternal, you will understand. Try it first though. Thats my advice

[slow sigil]

sure it's for single targets.... but when do you ever struggle with ONE target?

[floral cave]

Huh. And I thought it was super OP

[slow sigil]

nahhh

[jaunty vapor]

Basically BFG has a higher 'skill' floor than Unmaykr's skill ceiling

[slow sigil]

only a lil more DPS then pb rocket doesnt it? idk

[dim solar]

one would think that after going out of your way to complete a series of optional challenges, you'd get something useful for the end game or the final boss, and then they give you the unmaykr, which the icon of sin is specially resistant to

[azure forum]

And that says a LOT 😂

[jaunty vapor]

Why would you think it's OP if you've never used it? 🤣

[azure forum]

It looks cool though. That's it

[jaunty vapor]

This is why if I make a Doom like game I'm making "THE SUPERIOR SHOTGUN" that has 4 barrels, has great audio design, yet takes 4 ammo per shot and does 1/3rd the damage

Just to see who will say 'iTs AcTuAlLy ReAlLy GoOd"

I often wonder what the limit for weapons are. Is there a point where a weapon is so bad that nobody can defend it? Or will there always be those who don't care about actual effectiveness/stats?

[azure oriole]

The Unmaykr is a great weapon. The problem is it's stacked up against a "fuck this wave" weapon which is just better at killing monsters.

[azure oriole]

It looks cool 🥺

[jaunty vapor]

This is true, Unmaykr itself isn't necessarily bad. It's just BFG is astronomically better

[azure oriole]

In terms of weapon balancing and how good the weapon is, Unmaykr's great. It's awesome. You just have no reason to use it when the BFG annihilates everything around you in way less time with way more efficiency.

I stand by my opinion that the Unmaykr is a more interesting and well-done weapon though because it takes actual effort to use.

[dim solar]

nerf BFG pls, too stronk

[azure oriole]

Don't care for the modern BFG, it's too OP and makes me feel like a cheater. They should've given you the Unmaykr in the campaign and made the BFG unlockable through the Slayer Gates instead.

[jaunty vapor]

I'd agree with that. I think BFG is interesting in its own right, i.e. maximize air time for the best gain etc, but still overtuned by a wide margin.

[digital jewel]

Tbh same

[azure oriole]

Yeah.

[digital jewel]

I don't even use the Crucible

[primal relic]

But the Mars core cutscene :(

[shell radish]

unmaykr may be useful in killing a possessed demon, all i can think of for its uses compared to bfg

[jaunty vapor]

Crucible is probably the most boring design.

[shell radish]

??

[digital jewel]

Of course I'm going to be using the BFG and Crucible on UN but uhhh, generally, no thanks...

[azure oriole]

Crucible is an awesome weapon like lore-wise but gameplay-wise yeah I dislike it and vastly prefer Hellbreaker

[slow sigil]

qua gameplay it's boring, qua design it's.... a lil bit generic ngl
just not totally generic, but a bit

[jaunty vapor]

BFG is still better against most possessed demons, both because the damage is still good + you get the added utility of BFG stunning possessed demons

[digital jewel]

Am I the only one who actually uses the Unmaykr? Lmao

[slow sigil]

i mean, you can. it's just not as strong at all

[primal relic]

I use it against possessed enemies

[shell radish]

Oh rip

[digital jewel]

The Unmaykr is pretty underwhelming and underpowered but it feels way less cheaty

Than the BFG

[jaunty vapor]

It's literally a "delete button" that's only in game mechanic is 'its limited to ammo in the world". Which is similar to BFG/Unmaykr, but you CAN theoretically whiff a BFG shot, or alternatively get "better" BFG shots of you know the arena well

[digital jewel]

The BFG is just better when it comes to power

On UN, I don't see why anyone would actually use the Unmaykr

[jaunty vapor]

Crucible has no actual interesting mechanics except maybe crucible cancels, which are a bug/glitch anyways (although one that id is aware of and have kept and even patched back in at one point)

[shell radish]

its still cool

also since id keeps in cancel may as well consider it a feature

[slow sigil]

it also has like just 1 animation lmfao, that is just swinging it

[jaunty vapor]

I mean maybe. I dunno. It's literally just a more boring chainsaw basically

[slow sigil]

crucible is just so boring and generic i n every way and i think bethesda just kinda forced them to have a "cool new marketing weapon" and ID just put in minimal effort cause they simply didnt want to

[jaunty vapor]

It's like people who say the "instant stagger cheat code" is cool or interesting. It's interesting for all of... 4 seconds. Then you get bored because there's no more game really

[digital jewel]

The chainsaw is pretty cool

[warped sage]

The Crucible looks cool however.

[slow sigil]

it's ok but kinda boring so eh

[slow sigil]

it's a tad generic
"big laser sword" isnt new at all, atleast it opens cool and the random letters on it are unique... but they dont even mean anything

[digital jewel]

Crucible is boring but idk what you'd expect from Doom's equivalent of a light saber

[slow sigil]

for them to not have it and have a cool weapon instead

[digital jewel]

The hammer is more interesting but it's too broken so that just makes it worse

[azure forum]

It's only useful on archies as well

[slow sigil]

thing is, if hammer was balanced it would be fucking awesome

[azure forum]

If ypu ever use it on something

[digital jewel]

That's true

If they made it maybe 5 weakpoints or 3 glory kills specifically on Heavy and/or Super Heavy demons, that would make it balanced

[azure forum]

Make it 4 and 4

[digital jewel]

Because they you wouldn't be flailing it like a psycho all the time

[azure forum]

Reduce the ammo, health and armor given as well

[ripe onyx]

Completed campaign

[dim solar]

imo crucible was a good idea but was very poorly implemented, all super heavies should have been immune to BFG and crucible should have been your go to for them, but they way the game is right now, you can still use BFG to kill all super heavies and the game doesn't even throw that many of them at you that you'd feel the need to prioritize them and get rid of them quickly

[digital jewel]

Nice

Honestly, the BFG should work on super heavies as well

[ripe onyx]

Bfg busted

[digital jewel]

I mean... Why else would you even want to use the BFG or the Crucible otherwise? That would make them even more boring

[azure forum]

BFG is already too strong, at some point it just becomes boring

[digital jewel]

Because who the hell wants to use the Crucible on a Hell Knight?

[ripe onyx]

Fr

[azure oriole]

Erm... me???

[azure forum]

Crucible is only used on archies, the occasional Tyrant and maybe some random baron

[shell radish]

Its called a super weapon for a reason

[azure forum]

So it's the unmaykr

[shell radish]

Its still good

[azure forum]

Nah, unmaykr is not good. Fun, sure.

[shell radish]

Just not as good, bfg is like a last resort win button

[digital jewel]

The Unmaykr is too underpowered

[gray rivet]

Unmaykr seems to be just another automatic gun basically

I like it tho

[digital jewel]

I'd still rather use the Unmaykr than the BFG (when I'm not doing UN) though tbh

Using the BFG feels like cheating, same with the Crucible

[woeful brook]

How to fight hell knight: SSG and Full auto

[digital jewel]

That's why the hammer is better as an idea (if it was balanced)

[woeful brook]

How to fight tyrant: dash at him with the shield mod of the chain gun

[slow sigil]

nah no FA, not that great

[azure forum]

The hammer needs to be more difficult to charge. It is way too easy

[sacred dirge]

Yes full auto

[shell radish]

They’re all fun to use so its fine imo

[azure oriole]

what's the talkin here? I missed out on alot

[woeful brook]

How to fight archville:

[digital jewel]

People throw shit at the microwave beam way too much

[shell radish]

Super weapons suck

[digital jewel]

The microwave beam is good

[azure oriole]

Hellbreaker is fun tho

[woeful brook]

How do super weapons suck my guy

[shell radish]

i agree

[azure oriole]

you can abuse it

[shell radish]

i think they’re cool

[azure forum]

Correct, one thing is fun which all are, another is trying to argue that a bad weapon is good. Not saying that you are saying that

[gray rivet]

"Good" as in damage? How are we defining good here?

[woeful brook]

Guys I have something to tell you

[azure forum]

Yeah, damage and usability can be defining factors

[gray rivet]

Ah

[azure forum]

Like PB isn't the best on damage output by itself for example, but it adds a ton of usability for combos

[digital jewel]

What?

[woeful brook]

The marauder is the best thing included in the game

[digital jewel]

You're right

It's too bad that he stops being a challenge once you're good at the game though

[dim solar]

he's still dangerous

[digital jewel]

Not really

[tardy crescent]

Only that quake con skin we got him last time

[digital jewel]

You just step back and wait for him to charge at you

[dim solar]

better not to get cocky and lower your guard when a marauder is around

[jaunty vapor]

I dunno why people think a 🚦 is an interesting enemy 🥱

[digital jewel]

He's hard when there are lots of specific other demons around him

[severe ermine]

or just one cycle him

[digital jewel]

How is he not?

[severe ermine]

its only bad when theres a bunch of spammy shit

[dim solar]

he encourages to be creative with your approaches and that's neat

[severe ermine]

imagine the marauder in the sgn ml where the 3 archviles and like 5 tyrants spawn

[woeful brook]

I don't know the marauder too easy honestly Mable I could kill him with 2 weapons to be honest (It's not ballista and SSG)

[vale sparrow]

He also forces you into doing something specific unlike most of the other enemies

[digital jewel]

Just use the precision bolt and rocket launcher and he's dead

[azure forum]

The only time a marauder is difficult is if a good player is using it in battlemode

[dim solar]

lol

[digital jewel]

So what? The Archvile also kinda requires you to kill him immediately

[woeful brook]

I never played battlemode and haven't got a subscription

[digital jewel]

There's nothing bad about that

[azure oriole]

Barons are better than him

[woeful brook]

Even if I did im not worty yet

[slow sigil]

not really, you can also just falter him over and over and over and over

[azure forum]

Archie needs heavy pressure units with it or a setup similar to TN ML to shine

[vale sparrow]

But I still have a choice on when and how to do it

[shell radish]

just like any other demon the marauder isnt that hard by himself, idk why people are complaining

[woeful brook]

@slow sigil I still hate the archville to this day and gargoyles

[digital jewel]

You can also shoot sticky bombs at the Marauder's feet or kill him with the remote detonation rocket...

Same thing

[dim solar]

how so? what's so specific about him?

[severe ermine]

im surprised they didnt put an archvile in the plaza in the tn ml

[jaunty vapor]

Because he's completely antichetical to the gameplay loop I. Doom Eternal.

Doom Eternal is an extremely "proactive" game. While there are reactive things you can do (chainsaw/glory kill for iFrames, ice bomb or chaingun shield in reaction to damage), you can make conscious decisions that influence a fight, and nothing inhibits your specific decisions for fighting an enemy or an arena. There's never a moment where the player is 'forced to wait" for something to happen and be reactive.

EXCEPT for the Marauder, who's entire point is he's a reactive enemy.

[digital jewel]

He's not bad just because he's not as braindead as other demons

[vale sparrow]

What bloodshot said

Doom I can look at a room and go I wanna do this first with this weapon

[woeful brook]

Who else thinks that gargoyels are bad

[azure oriole]

Gargoyles are so cool

[vale sparrow]

Maybe not all the decisions I go for are efficient but the marauder is the antithesis to that I have to deal with him in a specific way at a specific time

[woeful brook]

@azure oriole

[shell radish]

shoot him in between green flashes while fighting other demons, hes designed so you cant easily destroy hin like other demons

[digital jewel]

Do Carcass shields make you proactive?

[slow sigil]

takes too long + boring

[jaunty vapor]

Thanks, didn't know that

[digital jewel]

Does the armored Baron in AG2 make you proactive?

[vale sparrow]

You can still deal with him even id if the shields are there, you can even use his shields for cover or as aoe dmg

[cyan frigate]

the armored baron has other ways of taking his armor down though

[vale sparrow]

Yea you dont have to wait for armored baron to flash green

[azure forum]

I think armored barons falls into the same argument of 🚦 demon

[digital jewel]

Yeah, but his shields still don't help you be more proactive... That's the point, and that's not even a bad thing

[shell radish]

your talking about how the marauder is bad so i cant tell if you do or not

[digital jewel]

Also idk why you would even complain about the Marauder when you can delete him in less than 10 seconds

[jaunty vapor]

Carcass shields are something you can react to but you can also be proactive against carcasses/arenas in multiple ways. And yes I understand 'sticky bomb/remote det' can work on Marauders, buts that's slow and still somewhat reactive as you're running away from the Marauder and getting him into a position where the explosives WILL damage him.

[digital jewel]

I'd rather face 5 Marauders than like 2 Barons

[dim solar]

nah nah nah, you know better than anyone that you can still kill him wihout having to react to none of his shit

[azure oriole]

I'm not nearly as knowledgable on Doom's gameplay and design as BloodShot is but I agree with him nonetheless. I don't hate the Marauder but it's not an amazing enemy. And it's not complex either. Nobody is complaining here because the Marauder is complicated to kill. He's just as braindead to kill as any other enemy, it just takes 10 times longer to do so and it is boring.

[severe ermine]

barons are easy

[jaunty vapor]

The DESIGN is bad. Bad design does not equal he's difficult

[digital jewel]

Yeah, but more boring than the Marauder

[dim solar]

it's just that you have to be smart about it, unlike against all other demons

[slow sigil]

and has like 98 bugs to him

[azure oriole]

Waiting until green light to do a basic quickswap combo a few times is boring. The more efficient ways to take down Marauders are still boring too.

[dim solar]

that are just shoot them untl it dies with whatever you have at hand

he is a really nice change of pace tbh

[digital jewel]

You have to wait for like 3-4 seconds for him to charge at you lol

You guys make it sound like he's taking ages with it

[vale sparrow]

Doesn't the marauder consistently comming up in conversations about bad or good design more often than most other enemies kinda point to the fact that there are problems with him

[cyan frigate]

thats why i think the community tried so hard to find ways to delete him asap lmao because the waiting gets olds. thats why i learned slob tech and other 0 cycles and 1 cycles specifically for him 😆

[digital jewel]

Also, didn't you say that the Davoth's boss fight is good? How the hell is his fight good but not that of the Marauders?

The Dark Lord is 10000 times more annoying than any Marauder ever could be

[cyan frigate]

it feels like ages compared to the high octane gameplay between waiting

[jaunty vapor]

This we can agree on

[shell radish]

He’s a pressure unit, hes the same as any other possessed super heavy yet i dont see anyone else complainingn about that, they take just as long to kill

[azure oriole]

In a game focused on speed and momentum it's lame to have an enemy that basically forces you to stand still and wait for him to come to you. That's boring, especially when Marauders do stupid shit like take forever or spawn dogs because an Imp bonked him with a fireball.

[azure forum]

The real final boss in TAG2 is the possessed pinky in Reclaimed earth

[digital jewel]

Who says the Marauder forces you to stay still??

[azure oriole]

The Dark Lord is one (1) boss fight. Marauders show up in lots of levels, and tend to make most of the encounters they show up in worse.

[azure forum]

Especially when they kept coming with the "double marauder" fights

[cyan frigate]

plus, the only thin i think we can ALL agree on is the marauders shield being triggered by enemy fire is annoying and creates an inconsistent experience. and different experiences each time sound great in a single player game, but it makes his ai super wonky so it makes it real annoying lmao

[digital jewel]

The Marauders rarely show up, and even when they do, you kill one in 20 seconds max... The Dark Lord boss fight can take like half an hour if you make a mistake and he heals up because your ballista didn't work when his eyes flashed green for whatever reason

[cyan frigate]

i enjoy fighting marauders because i know how to delete them with 1 or 0 cycles but damn, if i didnt know how im sure id get bored of waiting for the green eye flash

[azure oriole]

The design of the Marauder as an enemy forces you to take a defensive position. That's in conflict with Eternal's combat which inherently encourages you to stay on the offense, especially when your defense is your offense.
I don't mind enemies that make you attack at the right point. But outside of very very specific strategies (boring ones at that), the Marauder as an enemy inherently encourages the player to take a meek and defensive position, either running away from the enemy to let him come to you or do a very specific boring strategy to take care of him then and there.

Blood Maykrs handle the idea of "attack the enemy at the right time" better than Marauders IMO.

[vale sparrow]

Yea

[cyan frigate]

and even then, there is other ways to take down its shield or manipulate its attack patterns as well

[digital jewel]

The only defensive thing the Marauder makes you do is step back from him for like 2-3 seconds

That's it

Is keeping your distance somehow inherently defensive?

[novel sierra]

Whenever I try to quick switch between weapons on controller why is it slower then what I see pc players doing

[jaunty vapor]

Because possessed enemies don't require you to "react", i.e. wait for them to do something before you attack or whatever. Also there is SOME depth and player creativity in either killing them first and then killing the spirit or saving them last so you don't have to meme beam the spirit.

Marauders are pressure units sure. And they "work" as pressure units I guess? But after 1.2k hours I can say they're probably the most boring enemy to fight.

Either I wait for them to approach and then do any number of 1 cycles, or I do a bunch of meathook jumps + sticky.bomb spam. And while technically the same could be said of any demon "just do so and so", there's something about the Marauders design specifically that, to me, harms the gameplay loop more than supports it.

This isn't even touching up on the numerous bugs, friendly fire dogs, and cc, all of which are generally unfun to deal with as well in regards to the Marauder.

[digital jewel]

Do you run up to the first Mancubus you see? He makes you a bit defensive too

[digital jewel]

Because it's easier on PC, but trust me, you can still do it on console... It only takes some time and experience

You'll open the weapon wheel for less than half a second whenever you need a weapon because you'll have all of their locations memorized

So it's not impossible at all

[novel sierra]

I've tried practicing ssg balista, but I can do it fast like pc players

[jaunty vapor]

@novel sierra try lowering the weapon wheel delay settings. And make sure you're only tapping weapon wheel to swap.

It will still probably be a bit slower than PC (PC players normally use specific keybinds for each weapon for swaps)

[azure oriole]

Except from my experience it ends up being more like 6-8 sometimes, because the motherfucker has shit pathing and will take the long way around to come to me, or he'll get dinged by another enemy's attack and spawn a dog I have to kill, or he'll sometimes just run up to me and not do the green light like he should, and if I approach him at all to try to get him to just do his lame stoplight attack, he will get out the SSG.

He is boring, and when he's not boring he's buggy.

[digital jewel]

When you press R1, it switches back to the last weapon you had, so you can just tap R1 to automatically switch between the ballista and the Super Shotgun at any time without opening the wheel

[novel sierra]

I tap the button when quick switching between 2 weapons, but multiple weapons is pretty hard for me

[azure oriole]

He is inherently a "wait and let the enemy come to me" enemy, and not in the well-done way when he's so prone to bugs.

[novel sierra]

I do exactly that

[digital jewel]

I really don't see how he's more boring than like, Prowlers

[burnt moss]

Actually I never want BFG due to too many fodder/heavies. I only want it to kill a couple Superheavies. And it doesn’t do that, but the Unmaykr does.

[jaunty vapor]

You can't do "multiple weapons" easily on controller. You can bind the 2 weapons you want to quick swap between, swap to the first then the second, and now you can swap between them using weapon wheel "quickly". A lot of players bind PB, SSG, Rocket, and/or Ballista to their dpad so they have quick access to them for this purpose

[azure oriole]

how do i get better at quickswapping? i dont like Q because it restricts you to 2 weapons, weapon wheel isnt fun bcz it slows down a fast paced game and the numbers are hard to keep track of in the heat of combat

[digital jewel]

Also, on your first playthrough, the Marauder is literally a skill checkpoint

[azure oriole]

I don't like Prowlers either, but at least with Prowlers I can kill them proactively, and they don't randomly spawn phantom enemies when other enemies hit them, and they can be hurt outside of very specific windows.

[novel sierra]

Ah I see

[granite elk]

Marauder bad because of his shitty AI > Marauder bad because hard

[digital jewel]

When you're better at killing the Marauder, you're better at the game... The game makes this crystal clear on your first playthrough

[azure oriole]

But the Marauder isn't hard to deal with. They very rarely make me sweat or apply pressure to me, because they're shit at catching up to you.

[jaunty vapor]

Rebind the weapons to different keys?

[digital jewel]

And for me, it was very easy to notice

[digital jewel]

But the Marauder requires you to put all of your skills into use

Spamming with your favorite weapon all the time isn't a skill

He requires movement, fast reaction time, quick-swapping etc.

He's literally the advanced meta personified

[novel sierra]

I like killing prowlers just for 1 glory kill

[azure oriole]

Not really. You sit there, wait for him to come to you, blast him with 1-3 single-shot weapons when he tries to swing, rinse and repeat until death.
Quickswapping isn't skillful either. Quickswapping is easy shit. It's just switching weapons faster.

Like I said before, Marauder isn't much more complex to kill than most other enemies. Killing him is just needlessly drawn-out.

[shell radish]

possessed tyrant baron or doomhunter worse

[digital jewel]

Quick-swapping is easy for those who have it figured out, put yourself into the shoes of those who just got into the franchise for the first time, it's definitely a skill

[shell radish]

Cant be faltered at all

Beaides meme beam

[azure oriole]

I would argue Archviles are more skillchecks than Marauders are, honestly.

They definitely spell more trouble for the player, leaving them alone for too long spells disastrous consequences to you, they have a fuckton of health, and their attacks all hit very hard.

[digital jewel]

You walk up to them and delete them with either the chaingun shield, the BFG or the Crucible, lol

I like them, they make the game more chaotic, but I don't see how they're "better" than Marauders

[novel sierra]

I don't really like the Archvile only for the fact that he buffs enemies, idc if he spawns 3 barons but him buffing enemies is the worst

[azure oriole]

You listed one actual weapon strategy and two get-out-of-jail-free cards.

Hello

You can hurt the Marauder with the BFG too if you use it right, but I'm not gonna do that because that's boring and lame.

[jaunty vapor]

I have an issue with his design for new players as well but admittedly it's more subjective.

I didnt like how most of Eternals tutorials were "obvious" and just explained away the enemies. I preferred learning the enemies on my own and seeing how they worked, what weapons seemed good against them, etc. So I turned tutorials off after the Caco tutorial.

Fast forward to Marauder and up to that point there was never an enemy that you had to "parry", so I didn't know he COULD be parried. So I fought him for ages trying to use remote Det. Which funnily enough is very ineffectual since he can block the remote Det shots if you don't know how to shoot them (which since it was my first time, I of course did not).

I really didn't understand how to fight him, and was more confused when in Taras Nabad you had to fight one in 30 seconds or less. I kinda realized something was wrong there so I looked it up and figured out from there about parrying the Marauder.

Imo, if you HAVE to explain how your enemy works for someone to understand how to fight it, that's a poor design. I get that there's a trope in games of "shoot weakpoint when it goes" but I did not expect that to be the case in Doom Eternal, especially coming from 300 hours in 2016. Again this is mostly subjective on how I think enemies should be designed, but I don't think the Marauder reached the players well on its own, and i think that's bad in of itself.

[digital jewel]

Yes, because that's literally what people use whenever there's an Archvile 80% of the time

[azure oriole]

I urm, I bought the doom bundle and have doom eternal installed, should I know anything about the game?

[novel sierra]

Do not be afraid to turn down the difficulty

[vale marsh]

Sad that ID software was completly discared at quakcon

[azure oriole]

Okay

[azure oriole]

The fact that Archviles instill such "oh shit" emotions in people that they immediately switch to their most OP weapon when they see them kinda proves my point.

[novel sierra]

This game will beat you into the ground sometimes, so I recommend trying it on hurt me plenty before higher things

[gray rivet]

@jaunty vapor unrelated, but if I may, how many hours do you have in eternal?

[jaunty vapor]

Have fun. A lot of people will be quick to tell you what the best/worst weapons or options are, BUT you should ignore that at least for a first playthrough. Focus on having fun. You can only play a game for the first time once.

[digital jewel]

I partially agree with you on the tutorials and their frequency, but the fact that the Marauder makes you play differently isn't a bad thing because mastering him still makes you a better player, it gets easier every time you fight him and it's super easy to notice on your first playthrough

[azure oriole]

I recommend starting with Doom 2016, not Eternal.

[jaunty vapor]

1200 hours, although I believe I have 200 hours unrecorded due to some downpatch shenanigans early on

[digital jewel]

It makes the game much more satisfying

[azure oriole]

why doom 2016

[gray rivet]

Ah ok, thank you for the reply

[vale marsh]

Stand Complelty sill moving will get you kill, the chainsaw is for babies and you should only use one gun, Maroders are also a really bad edtition to the game

[digital jewel]

Because you won't have the chance to appreciate 2016 if you play Eternal first, because Eternal is better by MILES... But since you've already bought it, just go for Eternal

[azure oriole]

I have all the doom games

[digital jewel]

Oh

[azure oriole]

Eternal's story and gameplay both are meant to expand on 2016. It's a direct sequel to that. You won't have any clue what's going on story-wise if you start with Eternal, and even if you don't care about the story, you'll be in for a rude awakening because Eternal kind of kicks your ass.

[digital jewel]

Then play 2016 first

[novel sierra]

Also Bloodshot, I saw your video with Hugo where you speedran ancient gods, how did you feel when you were running through the game infront of the guy who made it?

[azure oriole]

I highly recommend starting with 2016 and then going to Eternal. Or better yet, start with the first game and go from there.

I'll go install 2016 then

[digital jewel]

New players do the same with Marauders

[jaunty vapor]

It makes you a better player against the Marauder specifically. But the actual strats you use against a Marauder don't translate to a majority of the rest of the game. Except Blood Maykrs and Armored Barons later (and Dark Lord )

I kinda get it. You get better at quick swapping, so he goes down from a 4 cycle to a 3 cycle, then to a 2 cycle, etc.

[digital jewel]

Yes, and quick-swapping makes you better at the game

Same with movement and fast reaction time

[jaunty vapor]

It kinda felt like any other run tbh. It was kinda funny when hed be shocked at some stuff, though I wish he'd have asked more questions about speedrunning or learning/finding tricks, etc.

[digital jewel]

The Marauder keeps you on your toes

[jaunty vapor]

I love nerding out about the actual "history" of certain skips and how they get found, etc. Etc.

[digital jewel]

I actually have more fun fighting Marauder than Cyber Mancubi tbh

[azure oriole]

I'm slightly nervous about playing doom in general tbh

[digital jewel]

Why?

[novel sierra]

Cyber mancubi hurt me internally

[jaunty vapor]

I will say Cyber Mancs and DHs are kinda boring too cause I always take them out the same way.

[azure oriole]

becuase from what i know you need to be a fast thinker, but I dont think at all

[jaunty vapor]

I like DHs conceptually, but in practice they always feel the same.

[digital jewel]

Don't worry, it makes you think, no matter what kind of thinker you are

[azure oriole]

oh

[sacred dirge]

It'll pass

[digital jewel]

Also, since you're going to play 2016 first, you'll have it easier

[sacred dirge]

Unless it'd nightmare

[digital jewel]

Because there's not a lot of hard thinking involved in Doom 2016

[sacred dirge]

2016s nightmare is harder

Less balanced early game at least

[azure oriole]

hm

[digital jewel]

At least they're not as bad as the shield guys from 2016

They were fucking annoying in that game

[sacred dirge]

Love making them trip up though before a nice shot to the face

[novel sierra]

I didn't play 2016, I just jumped into eternal, no fps training before it

[digital jewel]

I hate that they're so oppressive even though the plasma gun doesn't even work too well on them

[digital jewel]

That's great too, I think it's just a shame that Eternal doesn't let you appreciate or enjoy 2016 if you've played Eternal first

[slow sigil]

you can just not use it

[sacred dirge]

That's 90 percent of eternals player base. Many of thems first experience with doom was eternal

[digital jewel]

Because 2016 feels extremely shallow in comparison, even though it's a good game

[slow sigil]

meathook, splash, etc all work fine on shield soldiers

[digital jewel]

I'm talking about the shield guys from 2016

[slow sigil]

oh

[digital jewel]

Not Eternal, I really love them in Eternal

[sacred dirge]

That depends on your muscle memory. If it's jank you'll have a bad time. I switch from all the doom games back and forth no issues. Some people are weird though

[shell radish]

I played 2016 after eternal and still enjoyed it

[sacred dirge]

All the doom games have something they offer the other ones don't

Just need to appreciate that

[jaunty vapor]

Shield Soldiers are my favorite 'upgraded' enemies, in that like you said they were obnoxious to fight in 2016 but in Eternal they're still a threat but manageable in a number of ways.

[digital jewel]

There's still enjoyment to be had there, sure, it's just that it doesn't give you a great reason to play it over Eternal

[sacred dirge]

That's a personal thing for you though

[novel sierra]

I knew of Doom for a long time, but my parents didn't let me get the games because of the violence, and by the time my parents let me eternal was already out

[sacred dirge]

Not a general truth

[digital jewel]

My mom was playing Mortal Kombat with me when I was 5

[sacred dirge]

That's an epic mom

[digital jewel]

Yes

[novel sierra]

Mortal kombat, at 5???

Epic mother

[digital jewel]

She still didn't like that I was playing it but she let me do it, and I kept getting her to play with me, lmao

[digital jewel]

Yep, Mortal Kombat Armageddon

[novel sierra]

Also when Doom Slayer x mortal kombat

[digital jewel]

That would be AMAZING

Too bad NetherRealm Studios fucking sucks tbh

I love id Software because they actually give a fuck about their community, especially in comparison to other game studios

[jaunty vapor]

Eeeeeh

More than others, but there's still questionable things they do AGAINST the community

Maybe not specifically 'against' the community on purpose, I don't think anyone believes they're being actively spiteful, but there's definitely decisions that have been addressed AND not addressed that id simply refuses to look into/fix.

[azure oriole]

I thought that time Hugo Martin publicly executed a man at QuakeCon 2020 was a bit over the line, but over than that I really like id Software

[digital jewel]

Maybe, but I meant more like how they actually interact with the community

[azure oriole]

Bloodshot I got a question.

[jaunty vapor]

It's hard cause they have done good/beneficial changes but then there's a lot on the opposite side and it feels like "you shouldn't complain about x because of y" which... I dunno.

I am grateful for the positive changes but there's still a lot of negatives.

[azure oriole]

How is your phone surviving all that typing

[severe ermine]

thats easy

[digital jewel]

Other game studios literally don't even think about VC-ing with people unless they're actually popular among their community

[jaunty vapor]

I dunno. It's a touch screen with that "slide to text a word" feature which helps. It's really not that impressive

Granted I usually don't use that but every so often I do.

[azure oriole]

wait wait-you're using slide to text a word

[jaunty vapor]

Sometimes

Like this sentence was made using that feature

But on the flip side this sentence was not using that feature

[azure oriole]

bro types faster than me on phone unlike me on keyboard and makes less mistakes than me on keyboard 🤣

[jaunty vapor]

[azure oriole]

Omg YouTuber 😳 you are amazing and perfect you’re so good at typing

surprised that a speedrunner types faster than you

[severe ermine]

whats the fastest typing a paragraph speedrun

that has to be a thing on speedrun.com

[azure oriole]

Typing the Slayer's Testament speedrun (AnyPercent, no CTRL+V)

[jaunty vapor]

😊 Oh stahp it you

[severe ermine]

wait what

i never use that

[azure oriole]

❤️

[jaunty vapor]

Neat

[azure oriole]

when I'm typing on phone it takes atleast 5 minutes for my fingers to start hurting

• I make so many grammar mistakes, that It is just unebelieveable.

unebelieveable

Bloodshot should be our teacher that teaches typing on phones with proper grammar. he is just... a master 😂

[azure oriole]

same

[jaunty vapor]

I'd rather teach people how to cheat at Speedrun Doom Eternal

[gray rivet]

What event is coming next for doom eternal?

[azure oriole]

Simple just download meathook practice speedruns

doom 2016 is almost done installing i hate how large they are

[gray rivet]

Hopefully they cycle through so I can get the weapon skins from events I missed

[azure oriole]

Kiss him while you’re at it

[valid wren]

that wouldnt be very legal if hes the teacher

[gray rivet]

Uhhh

[cyan frigate]

projecting?

[severe ermine]

does anyone know the rewards rotate in horde mode

[azure oriole]

They don't

[jaunty vapor]

Kyle's out of my league anyways.

But like, he's too good for me. A heckin' Q T

[strange gale]

bad take

[cyan frigate]

listen here bloodshot. youre a 10 out of 10. i would definitely hold hand-i mean be friends with you

[quaint depot]

im so confused have they announced anything on doom at quakecon

[cyan frigate]

no 🥲

[quaint depot]

aw cmon welp another year

[jaunty vapor]

Isn't Quakecon going on for a few days?

[cyan frigate]

it is yee

[jaunty vapor]

"first hour no announcement? Guess nothing until next year"

[cyan frigate]

theres two doom panels upcoming within the next few days. one called “doom lore” and another that has something to do with horde mode

[azure oriole]

I make grammar mistakes but at least english is not my first language and I speak multiple languages and also try to learn some new ones so at least I have an excuse lol.

[azure oriole]

english isn't my first lang too.

[cyan frigate]

damn gottem! 😭😎

[burnt moss]

Wouldn’t they make their biggest announcements early? Indicating that even if there are any Doom announcements, they’re minor?

[slow sigil]

not really cause by now it's expected lmfao

[gray rivet]

Dhewm

Kwayk

[jaunty vapor]

I dunno what there plan would be but until the event itself is over, who knows what will happen.

In my opinion, nobody would watch "days 2-7" if day 1 was all announcements and everything else was extra.

[burnt moss]

I get that, but aren’t they worried that people will tune out due to boredom if there’s nothing big early on?

[jaunty vapor]

Maybe

[sacred dirge]

I wouldn't count on an announcement this year

[severe ermine]

im expecting another quake before another doom

its been a while since a quake

[shell radish]

What is everyone’s fav master level?

[azure oriole]

Battlemode

[shell radish]

battlemode is so unblanced

i played it recently and everyone i faced was level 1-10 and im level 483

[frigid gate]

I'm at the end of the super gore nest rn on UN difficulty and i'm bricking it right now

[shell radish]

what does bricking it mean

[frigid gate]

shitting myself

[shell radish]

oh

[frigid gate]

If I get to a checkpoint, can I close it and come back another time?

[shell radish]

You need to exit out of the game

Dont use save and quit ig it will delete save

[frigid gate]

So close app?

[shell radish]

are u on pc or console?

[frigid gate]

Console

[shell radish]

Xbox or ps

[frigid gate]

Xbox

[shell radish]

hold home button then press quit

[frigid gate]

Oh

[shell radish]

for the game

[frigid gate]

Will it wipe my save?

[shell radish]

No

[frigid gate]

Alright, thanks

[shell radish]

np

[frigid gate]

Oh yeah and is there cross save between consoles?

[shell radish]

im not sure

[frigid gate]

Ok

[shell radish]

Anybody still not have the maykr skin?

[flint flame]

No matchmaking moment

[shell radish]

yup

the best match i played was when i was a demon cuz i had no idea what i was doing and neither did the other two players xd

[azure forum]

If you are a good slayer, you need 2 good demons for a good match. Otherwise it becomes unfair for a good demon. If ypu are a good demon, you can probably beat a decent slayer if your partner is decent.

The thing is that most players are new these days

[sleek glen]

how on earth do people beat the doom hunter on ultra nightmare

im on nightmare and ive died about 20 times and i havent even gotten his shield down

[azure oriole]

2 bloodpunches destroy his sled and lob's (lock on burst) obliterate him

[azure oriole]

Though the boss fight were so different.

[flint flame]

That’s where your issue lies. Don’t focus on the shield. Just kill the sled and then kill him

Plasma rifle’ing the shield isn’t worth it

[azure oriole]

I did the worst mistake when I first played DE

I tried to destroy Doom hunter's shield 💀

[versed token]

You expected the punch to be worth a damn?

[sleek glen]

i try to microwave beam his shield and then lock on burst him

[azure oriole]

Double bloodpunch and his sled is bye then lob him the easiest method

[azure forum]

If your aim ain't good, use micromissiles. It bypasses the shield part and helps to break the steady. Blood punches is the easiest way. Ice bomb or frag to get close, then BP. Go around to Glory Kill some zombies to get it back. Rinse and repeat until the sled is off

[jaunty vapor]

Microwave Beam limits your movements a bit so it's usually better to just use primary fire.

Though most players do a combination of frag, blood punch, and heat blast to stun him and focus on SSG punch swaps on the sled or similar methods.

If you want to take it slow, do your best to avoid taking damage, and always keep a blood punch up by glory killing 2 things. When you get ice bomb you can freeze the boss dh and blood punch the sled, maybe get an SSG or two in. But then back off

[sacred dirge]

Pro strat

[azure forum]

How do people beat it on UN? Having a plan and patience - unless you're a speedrunner then patience definitely doesn't apply to you

[sacred dirge]

Patience is the most important part. Don't be afraid to fail a few times

[sleek glen]

i now fear when i have to take on 2

i just ran around getting blood punch and then punching him

[jaunty vapor]

Depends, but generally yeah. :p

[jaunty vapor]

Word of advice, get BOTH out of sled, lock on burst one ONCE, then kill the other.

Prowlers + carcasses don't spawn until one dies. So deal as much damage to BOTH before comitting to killing one

[hot tree]

Y’all remember what you get if anything for the cant perfect perfection milestone?

[sleek glen]

fantastic tip thanks

[azure forum]

Best podium in the game

[dim solar]

I'd actually be more afraid of two sledless DHs than from some lowly heavies 😂

sledless DHs are the literal embodiment of: Anyways, I started blasting

[hot tree]

Hawt, starting rn

[weary perch]

Doom is eternal

[azure oriole]

no it's not

The truth is life is eternal because your spirit goes to heaven/hell if it's real and then you soul live's there in eternality

and doom will die if all humans will die

okay sorry I've done a bit of nerding

[rustic rampart]

Wait wait wait. You're telling me I've been playing the boss wrong the entire time?!?!

[azure oriole]

Just quick swap

Plasma is bad, it’s only use is early game heat wave and that’s only if you’re sweating hard lol

[wise drift]

Hey everyone! I see this game is on sale and was wondering a few things, as all the youtube videos are 2 years old lol. Is the game still relevant? Is it good? Any co-op?

[sonic lion]

simple

doom hunter is an easy as hell enemy

[slow sigil]

Depends on what relevant means
Hell fucking yeah
No

[sonic lion]

even in the bossfight phase 2 of the doomhunter base where you fight 2 doom hunters its incredibly easy
2 doomhunters both got a purple crayon in their brain that prevents them from working together

[wise drift]

So i see theres a versus(?) option or co-op? Not entirely sure as i dont have the game but relevant as in will it be hard to find someone to play with?

[sonic lion]

depends

if its on xbox, ps4, or pc i think its good
if you try to find other players on switch good fucking luck

[sharp pike]

Can we all agree that the archvile sucks

[slow sigil]

Multiplayer which has technically co-op... but not as the slayer. Multiplayer was never really THAT active and bit less even now.
But this game is now a multiplayer game so that's not all too relevant

[azure oriole]

Actually he's so cool

[sonic lion]

no
easy as hell enemy

[wise drift]

Yeah sorry i should of specified - i’d play on switch

[slow sigil]

Idk how much that matters for mp

[wise drift]

So the game is fine/fun being single player ?

[sonic lion]

yes

[slow sigil]

It's the main focus, wayy better then the multiplayer

[sharp pike]

I play on switch

[sonic lion]

on switch multiplayer lobbies have been dead since the switch version released december 8 2020

[wise drift]

Okay thats solid. How about weapons - good variety? Can i zoom in at all? Or is it hipfire

[sonic lion]

you can only zoom in with the scope weapon attachment for the heavy cannon

there is also arbalast that zooms in a little

[slow sigil]

You can zoom in but only for a few weapons, and usually you wont zoom in cause it messes up with your aim speed anyways

[sharp pike]

What’s everyone’s favorite skin: I use the doom 2016 skin

[slow sigil]

No need for an aim down sights after all

[wise drift]

Thats interesting. I might be sold on this game, been itching to play a shooting game for a long time. Whats does the deluxe version bring?

[sonic lion]

people rarely even use the scope zoom in doom eternal
it is just a quick scope because that scope mod turns the heavy cannon into a sniper
in doom 2016 where it was just a scope it was completley useless

[slow sigil]

"A little"
Also don't forget stickies and full auto

[slow sigil]

Both the dlc included for a lower price
And like, 1-3 things that arent important

[sonic lion]

the deluxe edition gives a couple skins, classic audio pack, gives you cultist base master level for free, and both dlcs for free

i shouldn't be saying free you pay more for deluxe than standard so you are technically just paying for these things at a lower price

[wise drift]

Thank you guys, appreciate it. I might order the game rn

[slow sigil]

Literally 1 skin right

[sonic lion]

idk

[slow sigil]

Also cultist base ml isnt in deluxe, that's the pre order

[sonic lion]

oh

[elfin charm]

but your not really missing out on much that master level was okay at best

[slow sigil]

And the dlcs arent really free, you pay the same price for y1 pass+base game as for deluxe edition offsale

[sonic lion]

i gotten cultist base master level and doom 64 for free from buying the switch version of doom day 1

[elfin charm]

yeah the preorder deal for doom eternal was pretty damn goood

[slow sigil]

Okay for a level, meh for a master level

[elfin charm]

yeah

it's what 30 fps at most

[slow sigil]

Drops to like 20 or less on the more demanding arenas

[sonic lion]

i'm glad it was offered to the switch version for players buying day 1 because most pre orders got cancelled due to the physical edition being cancelled

[wise drift]

How does it run on the switch?

[slow sigil]

Honestly black magic it fucking runs at all

[sonic lion]

not all the time
99.9% of the time its a solid 30

[azure oriole]

It's the last doom game the switch will ever see

[slow sigil]

on the more demanding arenas

[sonic lion]

it does increase graphical quality for cutscenes in handheld mode and caps it to 20

[sharp pike]

It runs pretty well but it gets kind of laggy during cut scenes

[elfin charm]

the switch for the most part is made for nintendo games first everything else 10th

[slow sigil]

Wow o shit

[azure oriole]

🤯

[slow sigil]

Nintendo has bonkers exclusivity

[sonic lion]

even in the demanding areas it keeps a pretty good 30fps
the most i seen it lag was on the super gore nest master level
i moved on to the series x version before trying any of the newer switch master levels so idk about those

[azure oriole]

I still wonder how it handles THAT section in world spear master level

[sonic lion]

but even in the most demanding parts of campaign and ancient gods it kept up a 30 fps

[elfin charm]

the fact that old ass system can even run doom eternal at 30 is props to id

[sonic lion]

i remember one time through using a superlaunch glitch on the switch version to launch way into the sky on cultist base and fall under the map
i was under the map and because it was trying to render alot more from looking at a bunch of the map due to being far under it compared to normally playing it my framerate dropped a bit and my resolution dropped a whole lot due to the dynamic res trying to keep a stable 30

[elfin charm]

looks like limited run is doing a print for physical

[slow sigil]

ID didnt port the game

[sonic lion]

id still keeping the tradition of their games running on potato hardware
doom eternal can run on an nvidia gtx 750 ti at at least 30 fps
that graphics card released in 2013

[elfin charm]

who did

[slow sigil]

I forgot, but i do know it wasnt ID

[elfin charm]

damn

imma go look again

[sonic lion]

panic button

they did every id port for switch
doom 2016
wolfenstein 2
wolfenstein yung blud
doom eternal

[elfin charm]

yeah i just saw that 15 seconds ago

it seems they just port stuff

[sonic lion]

they also ported warframe

and even improved the other versions of it

[azure oriole]

warframe uses id engine???

[cold ivy]

Does anybody have the full image for the Limited Run Games steelbook cover

[snow kestrel]

warframe uses digital extremes own engine , panic button just made the port

[burnt moss]

Does the shield prevent damage?

[woeful root]

why does my game not go over 60 fps, and yes i have vsync off

[shell radish]

Maybe turn down the graphics?

[azure oriole]

your pc bad or monitor thingy

[woeful root]

already tried

[azure oriole]

what are your pc specs?

[woeful root]

1 sec

[snow kestrel]

check graphics setting in control panel/radeon ,make sure its not capped in there

[woeful root]

i use nvidia

[snow kestrel]

so control panel

[sacred dirge]

The switch collectors edition ?

[azure oriole]

🇫 🇦

[woeful root]

32 gb ram
11th gen intel core i5-11260H @ 2.60Ghz 2.61 Ghz

[sacred dirge]

That would be like if someone asked you what kind of car you drive and you said Ford

[azure oriole]

where is gpu

[woeful root]

RTX 3050

[azure oriole]

you have rtx 3050 with i5

[woeful root]

idk

[snow kestrel]

check control panel settings and monitor refresh rate settings

[sacred dirge]

🥚

[azure oriole]

🇫 🇦

[flint flame]

Your cpu really said 📉

It’s possible you’re getting bottlenecked

[sacred dirge]

Great gpu poopie cpu. That's the issue

[lavish breach]

Anybody got any tips before I fight the Doom Hunter

[novel sierra]

You can freeze him

[azure oriole]

2 bloodpunches destroy his sled and lob's (lock on burst) obliterate him

[novel sierra]

So try freezing and full auto

[novel sierra]

The normal variants

Not the boss

[azure oriole]

what

the boss is literally like the normal ones

[novel sierra]

No, the boss has more hp

[azure oriole]

no

[novel sierra]

Yes

[lavish breach]

It's a boss it should have more HP

[azure oriole]

but still

[novel sierra]

Try freezing it

[azure oriole]

tahts how every speedrunner / un player does

[novel sierra]

Then shoot it to hell

[azure oriole]

very waste of ammo

[novel sierra]

Just chainsaw

[azure oriole]

double bloodpunch sled gone works on any doom hunter

[novel sierra]

Only on normal variants

[azure oriole]

no?

[novel sierra]

The boss has more hp brother

[dim solar]

two bps is too much for a doom hunter, I just bp once and FA until they die

[woven oxide]

Hi guys

[azure oriole]

anyways

[woven oxide]

I cant play Eternal after play 2016 lol

[azure oriole]

as i said double bloodpunch and lob him

[novel sierra]

Why?

[azure oriole]

2/3 lobs after his sled gone should destroy him

[lavish breach]

Lobs?

[novel sierra]

Lock on bursts

The mod for the rocket launcher

[lavish breach]

Oh I know I have that

[snow kestrel]

one bp and ssg works and saves bp

[novel sierra]

For the sled yes

[lavish breach]

I'm getting confused

[woven oxide]

When you play 2016 before play Eternal belike :

[snow kestrel]

after sled hes ez picking

[flint flame]

Blood punch into super shotgun on the sled

[woven oxide]

[novel sierra]

I just blast him with Mobile turret then lob him

It works

[flint flame]

You don’t get chaingun until AFTER dh base

[novel sierra]

I mean on I use it on every other dh

[zinc bronze]

ngl

[novel sierra]

But for the boss I just use FA

[lavish breach]

Okay put all of this together and how do I go into this step by step

[zinc bronze]

i prefer not switching weapons fast but just playing the game

but thats just me

[snow kestrel]

quickswitching is playing the game

[flint flame]

@lavish breach , then lock on rocket him and he’s dead/close to dead

[azure oriole]

as totallysaber said bloodpunch ssg on his sled and maybe lob him after that

[zinc bronze]

i just dont prefer it

[flint flame]

Quick switching wasn’t intended, but became a main stay and is kinda needed for master levels and the dlc’s

[zinc bronze]

i have no problem with others quikswitching

[lavish breach]

Okay wish me luck

[novel sierra]

Gl

[zinc bronze]

true

[flint flame]

Switching guns was intended, but not to the speed that automatic weapons enable you to do

[novel sierra]

I beat all the master levels without quickswitching tho

[flint flame]

Good on you

[azure oriole]

you beat world spear ml in un without quick switchimg

[novel sierra]

Just a question tho, where is the cultist base master level, I can't find it or did they just remove it

[novel sierra]

No the normal master levels

[azure oriole]

paywall

[snow kestrel]

gotta have the pre order pack for it

[novel sierra]

Gah damn

[flint flame]

It’s on the store page for $5

[sacred dirge]

You don't have to do uber sweat super switches to take advantage of quick switching. I suggest you give it a try at least

Not that fun just walking around with one weapon

[random vault]

doom eternal

[flint flame]

But it was free for pre orders

[snow kestrel]

is a shit ml anyway tbh ,adds nothing

[novel sierra]

I watched a guy play thru it

Seems pretty fun

[random vault]

me when watch ultrakill footage (i now wanna play the game)

[azure oriole]

ws ml best

[novel sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/indie-game-meme-quarter-ultrakill-gif-26112589

[novel sierra]

I don't have the dlcs

[sacred dirge]

🤢

[sacred dirge]

Wasn't for me fuckers forgot to give me my code

[azure oriole]

ws ml was so good that it reduced my fps from 170 to 30

[random vault]

❔

[novel sierra]

If I played it my fps would be 3

I play on switch

[sacred dirge]

Ultra kill definitely is a game of all time

[snow kestrel]

it runs aight on switch from what ive heard

[random vault]

ultrakill on switch ❔❗

[zinc bronze]

i have its just not my thing really

[sacred dirge]

Ohh switch

That's neat

[novel sierra]

The game yeah, but I don't wanna get the dlc because it's too much for my switch to handle

66 gigabytes

[azure oriole]

whatttt

wait dlcs have weight size into them

[novel sierra]

Yes

[azure oriole]

impossibla

[novel sierra]

The game itself 33, with dlc 66

[azure oriole]

game is 89

[random vault]

microsd card

[novel sierra]

On switch its down graded

[novel sierra]

I have the max micro sd card

[random vault]

wowe

[novel sierra]

128 gigs

[snow kestrel]

cant u play horde tho?

[azure oriole]

i need to buy 2tb space disc to hold all my games

[novel sierra]

I can play horde

[snow kestrel]

that uses dlc assests

[novel sierra]

I don't really like horde

[snow kestrel]

so surely u would need the content downloaded ,idk how switch works

[severe ermine]

wait there are more master levels?

behind a paywall?

[novel sierra]

No, because I got the game only recently (like 3 weeks ago) so everything just came with the game

Everything needed was already there

[snow kestrel]

one , that came with pre-order ,its on the same difficulty/design level with the arc comples ml

[severe ermine]

oh

[novel sierra]

Sgn ml was pain

[azure oriole]

easiest ml

[novel sierra]

And on my first run my game crashed at the end where you had to leave the thing

[azure oriole]

follow the tutorial

[novel sierra]

No

[gray rivet]

Are there rewards for the cultist base ML?

[azure oriole]

no

[gray rivet]

Ok good

[novel sierra]

Final sin master level when?

[cold ivy]

Yeah

[lavish breach]

There's two more of them why was I not told this

[azure oriole]

its not that scary

[novel sierra]

[azure oriole]

you should have expected that

[novel sierra]

The 2 are weaker then the first one

[lavish breach]

Ya I guess

Ok

[azure oriole]

theyre exactly the same

[novel sierra]

No they are not

[azure oriole]

maybe because i play on nm/un always but idk

and they pack a punch like a punch on those difs

[lavish breach]

I did it

[novel sierra]

Epic gaming moment in history

[lavish breach]

But I wouldn't have done it without your guys's help

[azure oriole]

What did you do? Un run?

[novel sierra]

He beat the Dh

[burnt moss]

What platform are you on?

[novel sierra]

Switch

[burnt moss]

Yeah that’s why I bought an Xbox. Switch was keeping me from playing Master Levels on Nightmare.

[azure forum]

Yep, switch in particular loves to crash

On the positive note though, it is very conviennt to play DE at any point you want

[azure oriole]

guys how do i beat the two zombie guys in the first level…

[azure oriole]

It's impossible

yeah this game is bad wow it’s too hard

True

[severe ermine]

punch them 100 times each

[azure oriole]

ok I’ll try that

[azure forum]

Punch them to death

[woven oxide]

How to quick change weapon

[azure oriole]

Well, just switch weapons after the weapon fires.

It's just easy to understand

[woven oxide]

I cant remember

[azure oriole]

This game gives u no ammo!!! Wow I’m going back to cod

[severe ermine]

fr...

[flint flame]

I had the same issue, Bethesda customer support gave it to me manually since I was on bnet launcher

[azure oriole]

the ammo runs out fast but thats just when you change weapons and pray

[sacred dirge]

I just bought one lol. Whatever though never once used the doot skin

[wet inlet]

Does this game have deathmatch like Quake 3 Arena style?

[azure oriole]

👎

[spice condor]

if only

quake 3 is a blast

so just go play quake 3

[manic compass]

anyone have a fix for me getting a driver timeout and the game crashing after i get in the menu for a few seconds?

[cold ivy]

Do you have it?

[sacred dirge]

Nope not yet

[cold ivy]

Man I tried to find the full image for it but couldnt on google

[spice condor]

You are playing Mario Superstar Baseball for Gamecube. This means you are really cool and I hope you have a good day.

[cold ivy]

Yup I love Mario Baseball

[regal halo]

quick questio

[azure oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/dixie-nintendo-basket-ball-mario-hoops-3on3-gif-24180954

[regal halo]

how bad is the switch port?

[azure oriole]

Mario 3 on 3 is the goat Mario sports game

[regal halo]

ON DS , ON GOD BRO

[azure oriole]

It’s good, very solid. Check out the digital foundry video on it

[regal halo]

yeah im playing it on my switch atm, and its pretty fun even at the lowest difficulty

[azure oriole]

Hell ya

[random vault]

same

[sullen depot]

Is there a doom eternal glitchless category?

Like not 100% UN

[regal halo]

so switch player right?

the only way i can change my weapon is the weapon wheel , and one of the benefits of that is to slow down time to think about it...
so whats interesting is that...
slowing down time next to the uac lady sounds...

[azure oriole]

Who else keeps trying to reload while knowing you cant reload 😔

[zinc bronze]

me

[regal halo]

yeah... if it was pc, because of l4d2 and valorant i would break my R button

[azure oriole]

I keep wasting my flame belch bc of it

[regal halo]

THAT BUTTON IS FLAME BELCH TOO

[zinc bronze]

ong

[regal halo]

oh i would be fucked...

thank god switch port

[azure oriole]

When my dad first played the game he kept asking if there was a reload button unlike the other games

Thankfully he used to play the original doom when he was younger

[regal halo]

you guys dads plays doom?
mine liked the intro cutscene shotgun but hated the demons

[azure oriole]

Mine hated aiming

[regal halo]

mine straight up sees videos games as waste of time

[mental stone]

My parents don't know I play Doom.

[azure oriole]

Mine says the same but still talks about he used to buy video games with his own money

He was addicted to video games back then

Plus he prefers wolfenstein over doom

[alpine plaza]

started a nightmare extra lives run a few days ago

any tips?

[azure oriole]

I have a useful tip

Simply dont play nightmare

[alpine plaza]

ive already finished nightmare before

[azure oriole]

If you dont want to get full anger issues

[alpine plaza]

ill be fine

[azure oriole]

Practice arenas, learn good combos to destroy demons, etc.

Then i suggest going on a trip to the beach

👍

Bro

[alpine plaza]

the first levels are painful with all of the limitations at the start

[azure oriole]

Snipe and full auto

[alpine plaza]

lost a few lives in the dumbest ways imaginable

[azure oriole]

Microwave

[azure oriole]

Said everything

[azure oriole]

Especially Cultist Base.

Though I'm fine with it right now.

[azure oriole]

Only the first part of it

The rest of cultist base is chill

[azure oriole]

Well, the rest after the blood pit is not so hard.

[alpine plaza]

those are actually some great tips

[azure oriole]

Plus the dual boss is easier than the first boss

[alpine plaza]

im keeping microwave in mind

[azure oriole]

A little bit of nerf on Doom Hunter lol

Johnny knows the way to victory

[azure oriole]

This is great to stop archviles from teleporting away just sayin

[azure oriole]

Ice Bomb is even better if you have it.

True

[alpine plaza]

archvilles are usually not that big of a deal unless there are multiple

[azure oriole]

Just keep your distance from annoying and strong demons and use fodder demons as heals and ammo 🤷‍♀️

Theres no secret to it

Imagine Archvile can spawn another Archvile

[alpine plaza]

possesed archville ⚰️

[azure oriole]

That can happen right?

[alpine plaza]

ive never seen it happen and i hope it stays that way

[azure oriole]

Anyone else like the holt better than blood swamps?

[alpine plaza]

design or gameplay?

because i think blood swamp has some very interesting concepts and challenges

[azure oriole]

I'm looking forward to buy TAG 1 & 2, I wanted to know how it feels like instead of doing the same campaign for a month.

[alpine plaza]

its great

[azure oriole]

Design

But I also enjoy playing it a bit more gameplay wise

But yeah I agree also

[azure oriole]

It's great, ancient 2 is easier tho

Take a break maybe after tag 1

I got burn out bad and it made tag 2 worse for me

[alpine plaza]

the holt is great but i think it loses points because of it being a revisited location

[mental stone]

I once dealt with that with one game's set of DLC.

[azure oriole]

True I get thag

[mental stone]

I kept going, and I think it just made it feel more…unsatisfying at times when I finished the DLC.

[azure oriole]

Yeah it happens

If u wanna play but it isn't that fun when playing just take a break

Even if it's like a week or so

[mental stone]

It's also annoying when some DLC starts out easy, then suddenly goes straight for the most difficult moment, and then becomes easy again.

[shell radish]

Is there a possibility of any new master levels ever coming out or no?

[azure oriole]

Dunno but I think there are mod master levels

[icy ice]

I'm kinda sad there isn't an actual possessed archvile in tag1 nor tag2

Though one can be made in blood swamps with the right spawn luck

[azure oriole]

Need the new master levels to have a possessed archvile room

[azure oriole]

“New master levels”

[azure oriole]

Bruh

[strange gale]

[shell radish]

Im on xbox

[azure oriole]

Bruh

[wide obsidian]

Earlier i got rejected by a girl.(we're still friends, amazing person btw) copium is temporary, but doom is eternal. RIP AND TEAR!!

[frigid kite]

Don't worry you still have your marauder body pillow

[wide obsidian]

I don't even have one nor know of its existence. Yet i now want one.

[crimson yarrow]

What do you guys think of Counter Strike?

I've been getting back into recently

[wide obsidian]

Cs is a great game, I grew up with halo ce, cs1.6, doom1&2.

[frigid kite]

Definetly go get one, never will you feel lonely ever agin.

[azure oriole]

hey guys

after dying on ultra nightmare and doing the tutorials the game kills me in the tutorial for picking up health and deletes all my campaign saves

[burnt sinew]

im stuck in taras nabad mission

[frigid kite]

On which part?

[azure oriole]

good morning doom chat.

[burnt sinew]

when u find an armor

or suit or whatever

[rotund dust]

So how does the proximity flare works on the rocket launcher ?

Do I need to detonate the rocket for the flare to activate ?

I'm trying to unlock the proximity detonation mastery on the rocket launcher and not sure if I need to manually detonate the rocket for the flare to appear. Also not sure what the flare looks like

Just finished the main campaign

[azure oriole]

Y'mean Remote det? you need to manually det it by pressing mb2

but it ain't that useful but if ya wanna you can unlock it after lob

[rotund dust]

Ye

Need to unlock its mastery

Don't know wtf how to make the flare appear

[azure oriole]

you shoot a rocket and you press mb2

[rotund dust]

So I need to detonate the rocket for the flare upgrade to work ?

I though this was for the falter aoe

[azure oriole]

Flare??? y'mean for remote det?

[rotund dust]

Yes, there is an upgrade called proximity flare

I need to use it to get unlock the mastery for remote det, just not sure what the flare looks like

[azure oriole]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXddBOOSVgY

[slow sigil]

Who makes a video about that 1 challenge what

[azure oriole]

Idk

[rotund dust]

I already watched this

[azure oriole]

so you just need to remote det kill them

[rotund dust]

Didn't saw a flare when he shoot tho

[slow sigil]

Rem det always falters with the falter upgrade, the flare does bonus damage (the bonus damage makes it do kinda a normal rocket....but with bigger faloff lol)

What did rem det mastery even do actually

[rotund dust]

I thought the aoe was the other upgrade

So what does the flare looks like on screen tho

[slow sigil]

It's only usefull upgrade is the aoe stun lol, and even then rem det isnt strong so eh

[slow sigil]

Rocket gets blue i thought