doom-eternal

[azure oriole]

yeah but i don't really think about it when i'm trying to kill some demons

[slow sigil]

Well you just said you dont like getting close to dhunters, i guess that extends to other demons too then

[azure oriole]

Just use it on some threatening Heavies/Super Heavies.

[azure oriole]

no, only with the doom hunter

[azure oriole]

using the ice bomb kinda ruins the game and the flow of the game ngl

like you need to stop them from moving to kill them

[slow sigil]

Not really, you aren't gonna freeze all the demons in an encounter

Plus the falter system, what stuns demons, is literally the same

[azure oriole]

yeah but if you freeze a baron by example, it's not a challenge to kill the baron anymore

[slow sigil]

Freeze enhances your damage too, so freeze inro dblade is just a massacre

[slow sigil]

Fun to kill him in 3 seconds tbf

But eh i dont freeze a lot anyways, only sometimes cause it's a tad boring
Fun to freeze spirits as they spawn though

[azure oriole]

yeah when i freeze some enemies, it's usually only for the snakes (i forgot how it's called) because they are an absolute pain in the *ss

[slow sigil]

Use dblade

2 charges to stagger them, 3 to kill

Or just aim

[azure oriole]

i prefer to do ssg + balista + ssg + balista

[azure oriole]

Whipslash

[azure oriole]

High chance to miss but okay.

[azure oriole]

well i'm usually very close to it so that's not a problem

[azure oriole]

Besides, you can just use Lock on Burst.

[slow sigil]

Pb combos would be better, pb rocket or pb ballista
Ssg bal is ehhhh ok if you are a beginner

[slow sigil]

Why waste a rocket on a whiplash though, just punchswap rocket then

[azure oriole]

Well, I mean that's one of the easiest way to destroy a Whiplash.

[azure oriole]

well i'm still way too used to doom 2016, because in the other version of doom you basically only needed the ssg to defeat most of all the demons

[slow sigil]

Yeah fair but that's for anything, you also arent gonna be dblading prowlers except fot the challenge either

[slow sigil]

Just treat eternal like another game, you also arent gonna be playing mario like 2016

[azure oriole]

well essentially it's just the same game (yes i know eternal is still wayy better) in terms of weapons etc.

[slow sigil]

It's not qua what you have to do

Idk i never get people who threat different games as if they are the same

[azure oriole]

because it's the same game but with more features and upgraded features

[slow sigil]

If it's the same game then why doesnt the same thing work?

Why dont you just ssg spam and win anyways

[azure oriole]

because eternal doesn't want you to play like doom 2016

[slow sigil]

So it's not the same damn game

[azure oriole]

the only differences between doom eternal and 2016 is a balista instead of gauss canon, new demons and upgraded demons, and a new way to play the game

[slow sigil]

"A new way to play the game"
A yes very minor

Entire values are tweaked to make it a different gameplay experience combined with new stuff but yes it's totally the same game

[strong sleet]

They are literally the same except for all of these differences

[azure oriole]

i never said it was minor, you can technically play doom 2016 like eternal, but it's just that it's much easier to play 2016 with the ssg

[slow sigil]

Just like how doom 2016 is rhe same thing as cod:bo2

It only has a couple differentvallues, other guns, and few more demons

[azure oriole]

bruh it's the same thing as saying minecraft and cs go is the same game

[slow sigil]

Yes, exactly, you get my point

[azure oriole]

but doom 2016 and eternal is more like csgo and cs 1.6

[slow sigil]

Csgo only has sligthly different graphics, a few more guns, and few vallues are tweaked

[azure oriole]

essentially it's the same game, but with more things and a new and improved way to play eternal

[slow sigil]

It's not the same game though, that's the whole point

[azure oriole]

okay then it's the same thing as minecraft pre 1.9 and minecraft post 1.9

[slow sigil]

If it was the same game then you could do the same thing

It is like 2016, but it is not 2016

[azure oriole]

you can play 2016(except with bombs) like eternal, but it's just easier to use the ssg

[slow sigil]

Yes, but alpha cycling is wayy more powerfull too

It's literally not the same game, if it was eternal would flop for not being different enough

[azure oriole]

that's why i'm saying eternal is a better and improved version of 2016

[slow sigil]

Eternal experience and 2016 experience are different, that's the point, cause they are not the same game

[slow sigil]

Yeah, and therefore a different game

[azure oriole]

no because eternal has new lore, new guns, new demons, new and better graphics

[slow sigil]

Soooo it's also a new game

[azure oriole]

well of course it's a new game, but i must disagree, to my opinion the experience i had in 2016 (aside fromm all the times i rage quit because i sucked) is veeery similar to eternal, you move around, you shoot the enemies, you avoid being hit, it's all in eternal but in a new way

and of course eternal is way more fun, because it's a very improved version of 2016

[noble mirage]

Quick question I just starting playing Eternal again and was wondering if they will continue with events in the future and add more skins and such?

[signal spear]

But doom 2016 have better music (imho).

[uncut rock]

If mick gordon has a longer deadline, soundtrack would have been more on fire 💀

I got bored in the later half of Doom 2016. But Doom Eternal hook me from start to finish

[slow sigil]

That is literally every fps ever though, "eternal did it in a new way" is exactly what makes it another game

[uncut rock]

Every level in DE has something interesting

Sadly that levels in dlc 2 isn't that impressive

But at least there are grass and tree level in dlc 2

I wish there are more levels on Earth but take place in a city which aint too corrupted by demons gore stuff

[signal spear]

My PC is dead after playing DE

Cool 👍

[uncut rock]

Pc issue

[signal spear]

Music DE is fire, i just more like doom 2016 and him music, mb coz i listening music DE so much and have 424 hours in DE.

[signal spear]

I hope now i can play in Unreclaimed Earth

[uncut rock]

Just turn off the music and play the game 💀

[signal spear]

And my pc survive.

[uncut rock]

Play lofi music while killing demons

[signal spear]

WTF?!?!?

It impossible

Absolutely.

[uncut rock]

💀

[azure oriole]

doom has a very special way to move around, because once you stop moving you die, which is not the case with other fps games such as cs go where you often need to stop moving for a brief moment to be able to aim (otherwise the weapons would shoot everywhere but on your target). Sure in doom eternal they added the dash, which in itself opens to a lot of new ways to play the game, but other than that, the movement system feels basically the same in eternal and in 2016. Not only that but eternal and 2016 have a very special feeling when you play the game, you know you will die once you stop moving even just for 5 seconds, and you don't stop moving to aim, because that would also mean death

you also have apex legends where when you aim you walk slowly (and aiming is essential to be able to hit the target efficiently)

[tiny oriole]

MODS are safe to be used in Eternal, Single-Player story mode?

[signal spear]

yes

[tiny oriole]

ok thanks, so i can use god mode to complete ultra nightmare

[signal spear]

You can use every mods in campaign and horde mode

[tiny oriole]

these two mods doesnt have anti cheat, right?

[signal spear]

You cant use mods in battlemode

[signal spear]

Anti cheat dont work

As i know.

I didnt play in unreclaimed earth 2+ month. My skill issue.

[tiny oriole]

i want to use WeMod if you know that program

for Campaign and Horde Mode, but i just want to be safe

[signal spear]

no

[signal spear]

alt + f4?

[tiny oriole]

if someone else know if its ok to use cheats in campaign and horde mode 🙂

[signal spear]

cheats = skill issue

[tiny oriole]

well, with cheats in campaign you dont ruin gameplay to someone, only in multiplayer what i will never do

i dont have time to play many hours for ultra nightmare, but if its posible to use cheats, i want to use for skins

[signal spear]

What you receive for complete game on UN? Right. Nothing. This difficult for doom otaku, who play games 10+ hours every day.

[tiny oriole]

mods are like cheats? same thing right?

for a anti cheat program

[slow sigil]

There really isnt a difference between the 2

[strange gale]

both change how the game works so it'd def take a lot more effort to teach an anticheat which mods count as cheating and which don't

[severe ermine]

i dont see the problem with using cheats in singleplayer

you arent ruining the experience for anybody else

[slow sigil]

Arguably for yourself

[severe ermine]

i dunno

apparently its a "skill issue"

[azure oriole]

It is a skill issue if you're having trouble in harder difficulty and just want to be god and not a skilled player.

[slow sigil]

Cheats can definitely spoil your experience tbf

[severe ermine]

thats up to them

if you want to be a god then go play 2016

[slow sigil]

That doesnt subtract from my point but ok

[severe ermine]

it was supposed to?

[slow sigil]

Fair

[azure oriole]

Not if you have already finish the campaign

[slow sigil]

Then still

[timid plank]

Doing extra life mode on ultra violence is fun, ngl

I lost my patience with Nightmare

[flat trail]

do gUNless 😈

[opal galleon]

[flat trail]

😈😈😈

[vale sparrow]

what is the general strategy against a slayer who just runs away, like I am new to battlemode so its prolly just a skill issue but I swear me and this dude cant kill the slayer if he is just half decent he just keeps getting away and gets health

we even won a round but it always takes ages

feel like the heal that the monsters get doesnt punish him being slow enough since it doesnt heal as fast as he can just spam heavy weaponry

maybe more and tougher monsters should spawn the longer he needs to kill us 🤷‍♀️ but I guess that would flip it and monsters just run away and are annoying

[flat trail]

to not play battlemode

[vale sparrow]

even matches are pretty fun though

just like 2016

[potent totem]

#battlemode has the link to the spicy demons discord. Ask there in Spicy Chat and people that are better than me will help out

[vale sparrow]

thanks I already checked that out yesterday unfortunately it requires a phone number for veryfication

[flint flame]

Save the loot blocks for when they’re low on hp, don’t use on chainsaw

Correction, don’t use on the first chainsaw

It’s more often than not a bait for loot blocks

[potent totem]

Oh gotcha. Well I can give some basic advice. First off, time your loot blocks. You want to use it when the Slayer flame belches a bunch of fodder to prevent him from restacking. Try to avoid loot blocking the same time as your demon partner.

Slayer is going to have the mobility advantage, but you can still apply pressure with summons and tox boxes if running a tox load out. Try to cut him off. Try to work with the other demon to hit him from multiple sides.

Try every demon to find the one that works for you. Marauder and Dread Knight are good for applying pressure and easy to play if you want to chase him down better. Note that they're glass cannons. Pain is the best at pressure but takes a lot of practice to be good with

[flint flame]

Also helps to keep a mental note of what guns the slayer use and how often they used them

[vale sparrow]

thanks for the tips for sure! I guess the problem was that we were arch and pain not sure if they deal enough dmg, also I think some of the summons help the slayer more than it helps you? still feel like the slayer has the upper hand but maybe demons is just harder to play... when I go slayer I just hotswap the rail gun and super shotty and if they have any big slow targets thats usually gonna be them farmed for the rest of th game while I take out the second guy calm and steady

[jaunty vapor]

If you're new, Archie and Pain are definitely hard to learn right away. And as you mentioned, their damage is much lower than the other demons. You can succeed with Pain/Archie but it relies a lot on catching the Slayer in a REALLY bad spot.

One thing to keep in mind as Pain Elemental is you can body block the Slayer. So for isntance if you see them going to a jump pad, place tox box on it and then dash toward and above the boost pad and he'll hit you when he boosts, being stuck in the tox box

[vale sparrow]

also need to play around with the tox box I guess haha always went healing so far... does the tox box restrict their movement too like the phaser does?

[jaunty vapor]

Tox box is exactly like healing field except instead of healing you it damages the player. Thats all it is

I think in a Pain/Archie setup you'd want the Pain to have Tox Box. But I don't remember all the kits well and am not the best demon player

But tox box does a decent amount of damage per tick, so it's the perfect way to deal damage/kill slayers when they make bad movement decisions.

The typical consensus is when everyone is new, Demons are OP because 2 v 1.

Then when people are a bit more experienced, Slayer is OP because quick swaps are Op.

Then you get a demon duo who communicate and suddenly the loot blocks are on proper rotation, and demons are Op again.

Then Slayer learns better restacking etc and it becomes a much more fair game at higher level play

There's obviously a lot more nuance than what I'm describing but that's the quick and dirty of the lifecycle of Battlemode players learning the game

[vale sparrow]

sounds like there isnt an underlying problem in the balance then how come people seem to dislike it or is it just a meme

[potent totem]

It's just very polarizing because it's different. So people tend to either love it or hate it.

[vale sparrow]

tbh some developers would have just made this gamemode alone said its a revolutionary asymetrical shooter and slapped 59,99 on that sucker

[slow sigil]

Cause it's different to normal eternal, and tbf the balance issue lies rather in no skillbased matchmaking so youcan go up against a pro even though it's your first time

[vale sparrow]

ok hopefully I ll randomly meet some really good demon duo cause I really wanna see what you can do to shut down the zoomin and hot swappin

the only games I ve lost so far were with demon cause we couldnt kill the guy and he wore us down or cause he was simply better

[waxen field]

I wonder will they ever unnerf the archnotron? That change ruined so many encounters, especially in TAG 1.

[slow sigil]

Nope

[dim solar]

wait, what nerf are we talking about

[waxen field]

Well that’s lame especially when they added the functionality for difficulty specific nerfs. It kinda just feels lazy imo.

I hope to god they don’t make awful balance changes like this in their next game.

[waxen field]

The one that made his turret useless.

[slow sigil]

Hopefully not, hopefully they learn from eternal's balancing and meta

[dim solar]

huh?
How did it become useless?

[waxen field]

I don’t think they did or else they’d revert it and not nerf another boss after after the outcry from the massive amount of nerfs from the tag 2 update.

Though maybe I’m just pessimistic.

[slow sigil]

Reduced accuracy by like 80%

[dim solar]

huh
interesting

[waxen field]

Terrible tracking, a massive increase in spread, and lower rate of fire (or maybe it just feels that way for the lattermost point).

[dim solar]

well, spooders are super easy to kill so I dont think the nerf makes much of a difference in the end

[azure oriole]

Their turrets are always the first thing I shoot off anyway.

[sacred dirge]

Morning fellow FA enjoyers

[dim solar]

good morning, my FA enthusiast fellow

[random vault]

fa

[dim solar]

I just arbalest + SSG them and they don't even get to move lmao

[random vault]

i full auto everything

its the best weapon

[waxen field]

Does in the early game, much of tag 1, and when possessed.

Though I’m a console player so maybe that’s why. Like seriously why is it so hard for kb&m for console or at least motion control aiming on ps4 (it can help for that last bit of precision an analogue stick lacks).

[dim solar]

the early game sucks ass and is super unbalanced so I'd even argue that's a good a change

[rotund ether]

Honestly, Arachnotrons are a joke

They are most threatening is early game and that's it

[dim solar]

for the rest I don't really see the problem
I play on console too

[random vault]

early game is good because you can use nothing but FA

[dim solar]

no no TMG

you got it all wrong buddy

[random vault]

D:

[dim solar]

early game is actually the most unfun part

because FA is truly worthless in early game

[waxen field]

Idk I like the early game. I miss strategizing all my chainsaw ammo in the first level for the spiders.

They’re so pitiful now that it doesn’t matter.

[dim solar]

it actually becomes usable on taras nabad after you grab the first mastery token

[random vault]

WTF

[waxen field]

How do you even use FA? It easts ammo up faster than even mobile turret it feels like.

[rotund ether]

Wut

[random vault]

i shoot the demons and they die

[rotund ether]

Oh I probably know why Vega deleted my message

I wanted to write: Arachnotrons are problematic only in Hell on Earth, but you can just chainsaw them

[waxen field]

For me I just shoot at them and then run out ammo.

[rotund ether]

Use FA as an finisher or against a fodder swarm

[random vault]

skill issue

[dim solar]

holy shit, no, having to save and play around chainsaw pickups so I can kill a heavy because I don't have the proper arsenal or upgrades to deal with them isnt the most enjoyable thing for me

[dim solar]

this tbh

[random vault]

rbh

[dim solar]

tbh!!

[random vault]

hi!!!!

[dim solar]

hello~

[random vault]

why tilde

[dim solar]

why not

[random vault]

because tilde at the end of word is used only to imply attraction and / or nsfw implications

[dim solar]

you might be reading too many of those H doujins my dude

[random vault]

17 a day isnt “an addiction” or “too many” 🙄

jeez

[waxen field]

Even if you didn’t they were still more than beatable. It’s just now they’re more pitiful than the revenant. Whereas before they punished players with bad aim and prioritization.

But yea ultimately they were never as deadly as the whiplash or dread knight for ex. (Though they could be nasty in groups especially in small spaces).

[waxen field]

Honestly true

[random vault]

😹

[dim solar]

it's boring honestly, in early game all you can do is hide behind a wall and wait for them to pop up in the corner so you can take their turret down with a pb or sticky bomb

[random vault]

no you use FA

[dim solar]

well, that too

[random vault]

mhm

[random vault]

bloodshot dont vomit FA best weapon

https://tenor.com/view/why-are-you-booing-me-im-right-gif-10368876

[jaunty vapor]

That is NOT what you are

[waxen field]

If your fast with the sticky/pb from my experience in the early game you should’ve been good (and that’s coming from a console peasant).
The one exception is the one in the subway, that one is hella cheesy imo.

Regardless the real lesson from this discussion is FA is the only right answer to anything in life.

[random vault]

but everyone told me it wad the best, are you saying… THEY LIED???? D:

[dim solar]

No, you are the best

[random vault]

but bloodshot is saying fa bad

[jaunty vapor]

You can just run past that Arachnotron

[waxen field]

Yea but as the doom slayer I’m legally obligated to kill all demons.

[jaunty vapor]

Bahahaha

[random vault]

says what law

[jaunty vapor]

Does this guy know who he's talking to

[random vault]

show me what law says this

[waxen field]

The slayer’s testament

[random vault]

is that a law

[opal galleon]

No

[edgy fjord]

sticky bombs vs full auto is always one sided

[random vault]

LIAR!!!!!

[jaunty vapor]

Yeah but the slayers testament also says sausage skip isn't dope and that's straight up wrong

[edgy fjord]

how about remote det vs lock on

[opal galleon]

taco on

[jaunty vapor]

Also very one sided, it wouldn't be if remote Det didn't lower your damage

[random vault]

taco cat spelt backwards is

[edgy fjord]

i like remote det because i can just hold down the right mouse button when quick switching

[jaunty vapor]

Imagine using a weapon mod that does LESS damage than the primary fire lol

[edgy fjord]

everything else about remote det is okay

[rotund ether]

Then how about DBlade VS Arbalest

[edgy fjord]

i like gibbing cacos with the arbalest

[waxen field]

Lock on has silly dps, remote det has the demons stopping out of pity.

[random vault]

d blade beter

[jaunty vapor]

Dblade Arbalest is the most "balanced". Arb is much easier to use but decent damage. Dblade is muuuuch better than Arb, but has a bit of a learning curve.

[edgy fjord]

i wish cacos ate the arbalest like with sticky bombs or frag grenades

it doesn’t even need to go into a stagger state i want the caco to chew on it then realize it’ll explode

[jaunty vapor]

But using Arb in of itself is still good.

Micro Missiles and PB is similar, though PB also has the added benefits of it making quick swaps faster which pushes it over the fucking edge and back (also it doesn't need ANY weapon points invested)

[waxen field]

I personally use arbalest for general use and blade for niche strats.

[dim solar]

can't you do just that without the rem det mod?

[edgy fjord]

yeah but i might as well have the extra weapon mod just in case

[rotund ether]

I mainly use Arbalest, but when you see demons lined up you just want to Dblade them (Or when you want to decapitate a Tyrant)

[waxen field]

Shield vs turret?

Personally shield op but turret will always have a place in my heart.

[jaunty vapor]

The thing is a full Dblade is more than twice the damage of Ballista, so it's already good against a single enemy (especially since for a lot of enemies that's an insta kill or stagger).

As soon as you can hit TWO heavies with Dblade it becomes exponentially better, and there's a lot of easy ways to always get at least 2 with a Dblade

[rotund ether]

Shield is much stronger, but turret is cooler imo

[jaunty vapor]

Even if shield wasn't OP like it is now, shield would probably still be better simply cause normal chaingun is 20x4 damage while MT is 24x4, and a "little" faster, so the usage doesn't outweight the utility of shield.

[waxen field]

Yea but It’s weird how the best shield strat is humping all the demons

[jaunty vapor]

?

[tough rover]

Do you think we’ll ever get infinite crucible ammo again?

[waxen field]

Having to dash into them cause falters and does silly damage.

[jaunty vapor]

Yeah, just download meathook and use g_infiniteammo

[jaunty vapor]

Yeah but you said with Turret.

[jaunty vapor]

Turret or Energy Shield?

[waxen field]

That was a typo, my bad

[jaunty vapor]

Also technically not the best strat for E-Shield

https://youtu.be/5VC1n_aYRXs?t=16

[tough rover]

laughs in switch lol I play on switch the closest thing to that I can do is dream

[jaunty vapor]

Rip, no tear. 😢

[waxen field]

I’m starting to think giving the shield damage on dash was a mistake.

[dim solar]

it was

[burnt moss]

Isn’t LOB faster than Dblade though? For one enemy

[flint flame]

Nah, it’s not a major problem. Plus spamming crucible is boring gameplay

[waxen field]

Can you quick switch on console?

Specifically I mean between more than two weapons or is the weapon wheel just too slow.

I was wondering cause those pb combos are hella op.

[burnt moss]

Only if you bind weapons to specific buttons

You can use weapon wheel fairly quickly though

[waxen field]

You can do that on console?
Was that added in an update?

The thing I hate about the weapon wheel is that it can be really easy to misinput imo.

[dim solar]

true that

[gray rivet]

You can quick switch with the weapon wheel fast enough that it doesn't even appear

I can't do it that fast tho

During combat anyway

[dim solar]

sometimes it's not even your fault, the game just gives you a random weapon for no reason lmao

[gray rivet]

Not to sound like an ass, but that's never been an issue for me

[waxen field]

Doom 2016’s was even worse it was at a slight angle.

Also not sure if it was fixed but it would occasionally glitch out and invert your input.

[gray rivet]

Yea that Happens if you move the stick to more than one weapon on the wheel

If I recall correctly

[dim solar]

oh yeah, 2016's WW is absolute ass, impossible to swap weapons at a consistent pace in that game

[burnt moss]

I still don’t buy that. At least not on Switch

[gray rivet]

Fair, I haven't played on switch before

[burnt moss]

I thought it was just me! Is this on all platforms?

[gray rivet]

You can melt enemies in 2016 with the 'last weapon' button

But yea weapon wheel is abit jank

[dim solar]

probably, weapon wheel is just not an efficient system at all

[burnt moss]

You can map anything you want. It’s been that way all year at least

[burnt moss]

But like getting a random weapon. Sometimes I’ll get a weapon that’s across the wheel from the one I selected.

[dim solar]

I guess you could, but it's only a matter of time before you die to the WW giving you something you didn't ask for three times in a row

[gray rivet]

Damn i see

[waxen field]

I took a looong break from the game, cool feature.

[azure forum]

It happens when one Weapon you are currently using - between the last 2 you can swap, runs out of enough ammo for another shot. If that's the case, the game will automatically assign another Weapon that can actually fire. The order goes clockwise I believe in the WW. This is why PC swapping is better because you don't have to use that "last Weapon swap " button but they just use the specific Weapon bind keys instead

Makes no sense because the option "automatically change for another Weapon when you have no ammo" option (or whatever the description is) doesn't apply to that.

[waxen field]

Yea in my 2016 no upgrade run that combo was my bread and butter.

[jaunty vapor]

This is true. I usually wouldn't recommend Dblade against single target inherently but it's not bad to do so

[edgy girder]

i just redownloaded doom eternal on my pc and it is running at 12 fps even tho im only using 1/5 of mt vram would anyone know why by chance

[dim solar]

I've had that too

luckily, thanks to 4 slot WW, I dont have to deal with that crap anymore

because that shit was mad annoying

the customization you can apply to eternal does wonders

it sucks you can't do nothing like that in 2016

[burnt moss]

Not sure we’re talking about the same thing. I’ll ask the WW for the Ballista and get the HC instead. Not due to running out of ammo.

[waxen field]

Wouldn’t playing the game with half your weapons be kind of annoying?

[slow sigil]

You can bind other guns

[jaunty vapor]

Oh that is a bug. I forget how it gets triggered though

[dim solar]

I have 3 weapons binded to buttons, and 4 on the WW

[slow sigil]

And you dont need plasma rifle at all unless you're playing tag/hm
Chaingun you can ditch if gud
Bfg, ew
Combat shotgun... bit shady but sure

[versed lily]

damnnnn is that what everyone does? i was wondering how to switch efficiently between 1 and 8 😛

[burnt moss]

I have a habit of dblading a frozen tyrant but I think I could use the time better with LOB

[waxen field]

Yea but you don’t have many spare buttons.

[slow sigil]

You do if you ditch other stuff lol

[dim solar]

eternal has a total of 8 guns, so I have to forget about one

[slow sigil]

Like, who needa to swap weapon mods, and look at the map

[burnt moss]

The sole reason I’m not playing 2016 again anytime soon. I am not re-learning a default config for that game

[burnt moss]

All platforms have it then?

[dim solar]

luckily, Lucina indoctrinated me into never using plasma rifle, and that worked perfecltly for my setup

[slow sigil]

That's 3 free buttons + L to bfg

And if you gotta... rip crucible too ig

Hammer is like, only for horde mode last waves and WS ML lmfao

[burnt moss]

I want a whole different config for post-DHB than prior to it. Plasma is useful early on, but worthless later.

[slow sigil]

Tbf even during my first playthrough i kept forgetting plasma excisted

[sacred dirge]

I hope the devs do something about plasma. One of my favorite weapons in doom got the raw deal in eternal. In some ways 2016 also but it was more useful there

[slow sigil]

It's because swapping was wayyy better then they predicted and you have too many reasons to ignore using PR against shields

Hopefully next game it's better qua stats and what it can do and more shields

[dim solar]

wasn't 2016 like pretty strong? I think speedrunners use it a lot

[sacred dirge]

Heat blast stun are pretty epic especially for un runs. Other than that I just used base for fodder or to finish off a glory

[slow sigil]

Tbf if a gun's base fire's only purpose is putting fodder into gk state that's still pretty good

[jaunty vapor]

Actually I think this is one of the better uses. A lot of top players will start a Tyrant/Baron with frozen Dblade before going into LoB spam

If Tyrants and Barons took full damage form LoB, maybe it'd be better to just do that with ice bomb

[azure oriole]

Can someone help me with Doom Eternal?

I keep getting to the loading screen then crash, right before main menu, something broke.

It's been like this since February.

[queen basin]

Did you buy a new graphic card?

I had the problem when i used a new one.

[azure oriole]

No, GTX 1660 Ti.

I can dump the crash file in your DM's if you need it.

[queen basin]

I dont need it

[burnt moss]

There’s diminished damage for LOB? I thought it was sixes between dblade and lob

[warped sage]

Meanwhile I have this problem: The “no physical devices” error that seems to affect anyone with dual GPUs including me.

I was able to get it working however thanks to a Steam launch command that forced DOOM Eternal to use a specific GPU. Earlier this year however, I uninstalled the game to save some disk space.
Now, about almost a week ago, I decided that I should reinstall Eternal. As I was about to play it however, still on the same hardware, I was greeted with that error.

This time, even that command line didn’t seem to work anymore as it’s still present on the launch settings of the game. Many sources tell me to just disable my IGPU and stuff, but I’m afraid that I may just end up messing up my display. Any other solutions?

What I had done: setting High Performance for the game’s .exe on both Display Settings and NVIDIA Control Panel, verified game file’s integrity.

[azure oriole]

Yeah tyrants and barons have 30 % resistance to lock on.

[gray rivet]

Nice

[azure oriole]

Even then slobs + something else is very effective

[quick grove]

Update drivers?

[fathom thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-hi-there-greetings-gif-9442662

How is everyone?

[random vault]

im ok

[timid plank]

How would you guys feel if they changed the musical direction for the next game? Like more dark souls boss music style symphonic stuff instead of metal

[crude stone]

Goooood

[fathom thicket]

Man the Marauder is easy to kill lol

I'm replaying Doom Eternal on Nightmare and I killed the Marauder boss in 10 seconds lmao
(I have a video clip to prove it)

[random vault]

i killed the marauder with fa before

[fathom thicket]

Clearly not you being a chad lol

[dim solar]

you're gonna have to share that clip, because I for one, do not believe you

[strange gale]

😱 in 2022 everybody kills them in like 3 seconds

[fathom thicket]

I'll dm it to since I don't have video perms in this chat lol

[dim solar]

can't you just upload it to YT or somewhere else?

[fathom thicket]

I just sent it

[dim solar]

lol nice kill

and nice monitor

[fathom thicket]

True, but I haven't played the game in almost a year until this nightmare playthrough lol

So I need to train to become one of the chads

[sacred dirge]

Lol slobs

[gray rivet]

[hard marlin]

no

[burnt moss]

If it weren’t for BFG Division I’d still be playing Goldeneye. The music stays.

[timid plank]

Yeah that’s what I thought

[azure oriole]

Gonna go against the grain here, if it were a sidegame I wouldn't mind it.

Fans act like the pulse-pounding cocaine-snorting kill-your-fucking-dog metal is part of Doom, but the original games only kinda sorta have that.

Doom 64 and the PSX ports use symphonic, atmospheric horror atmosphere. Doom II only has like three songs that use metal, the rest is elevator music or gothic-sounding shit like Into Sandy's City

Doom 3's only metal song is the title screen IIRC.

[slow sigil]

Orchestrial wouldnt really fit doom tbf

And i think metal has cemented itself with new doom, fans would definitely complain if it wasnt atleast a bit metally

[burnt moss]

That helps explain why I find those games sort of boring. Or at least the OG

[jaunty vapor]

I say this as respectfully as I can.

Fuck 'em. 🙂

As much grief as I give id, I think they stand out when they don't hold themselves to any sort of conventions and just "make a cool game", and I think they could pull off whatever tone/music shift they'd want.

[slow sigil]

Fair

[jaunty vapor]

I like the metal, don't get me wrong, but I could see them going any number of routes, including semi-orchestral type shit. Though I'm no audiophile

[slow sigil]

What about orchestrial metal though 😳

[jaunty vapor]

I'd be for it, though depends. I listen to a lot of Falkkone who sorta does that and his hits are fucking hits.

But some of the misses are just mid.

[slow sigil]

Tbf if your misses are mid that's fucking great

[jaunty vapor]

True!

But as monologue said, one of the stand out pieces from og Doom for me is Dark Balls (e1m3) and it's basically all atmosphere

Blood Swamps and Holt are kinda similar actually. They veered away from high octane music and went more for atmosphere, and while the fight music is meh (most cause bad mixing) the ambient track between fights is top notch

So I can see "next Doom/id game" doing something different and succeeding

[burnt moss]

I think a starker contrast would be optimal. Doom Hunter Base is a good example. Music goes from an atmospheric enhancer to OH SHIT OH FUCK

So classical atmosphere music, razor-sharp heart-pounding metal during fights.

[burnt moss]

I like art for art’s sake, but I enjoy when artists occupy and remain in a niche as well, so I’m not disappointed by the next piece.

[jaunty vapor]

That's also fair. There's no comprehensive "this is what they should do next time" I think. I have opinions/preferences (like no god damned invisible walls AFTER launch) but whatever the next game is should be good.

[burnt moss]

Well that goes without saying. That’s like discussing an upcoming book and going “I hope there’s fewer typos this time”. Your angst here isn’t with creative decisions, but with objective quality.

[timid plank]

I mean if they are actually slowing down the gameplay, something similar to like the godskin apostle theme would fit a Doom boss imo

[burnt moss]

Is it even a FPS at that point though? What does slow combat even mean?

[timid plank]

No idea tbh, I haven’t played many fps games before

[azure oriole]

Slow = not an FPS?

[burnt moss]

That’s my thinking yeah

[timid plank]

I was just going by what the developer said how it’s gonna be more of a monster truck compared to doom eternal which was like a sports car

[azure oriole]

That’s terrible thinking and not at all how that descriptor works

[burnt moss]

The slower the pace, the less emphasis on fighting.

[azure oriole]

F in FPS doesnt stand for fast and the S doesnt stand for slow 😂

[burnt moss]

That doesn’t even make any sense. I know what it stands for

[azure oriole]

And that makes it not a first person shooter

Of course it doesn’t make sense I’m fucking with you

Either way a game isn’t an FPS just because it’s slow paced

[burnt moss]

Yes. Slow=less emphasis on fighting. FPS must emphasize fighting by definition.

[azure oriole]

huh

[slow sigil]

I just hope it's complicated, with lots of tech things to figure out like eternal

[burnt moss]

I said originally that slower makes me question whether it’s an FPS at all. I think FPS games need to be fast paced.

[burnt moss]

I do like the resource management and balancing aspect of Eternal.

[slow sigil]

Well they dont NEED to be but a slow fps has conpletely it's iwn gameplay so
Like a sniper game

[slow sigil]

I hope they make it a bit more dependent on weaponmods instead of just waiting for a cooldown

[burnt moss]

Are there any major games that fit that description?

[burnt moss]

What do you mean?

[azure oriole]

I’m glad that’s what you think but I’ll keep believing Halo and Battlefield are FPS games because they’re first person shooters and not because they’re not as fast as Doom Eternal lol

[slow sigil]

Sniper elite maybe?

[burnt moss]

I don’t play those; aren’t they fast-paced?

[azure oriole]

What is slow paced?

[burnt moss]

Never heard of it. Maybe there is a side of FPS I’m not aware of. I just don’t picture a game where you shoot people primarily, that also has slow pacing.

[slow sigil]

Like using certain weaponmods (when mastered atleast) gives resources, like meathook and, unironically, full auto.
Cause if you boil it down, all ways to get resources in eternal is.... waiting for a cooldown to end (flame belch and chainsaw) with the exception to glorykilling

[azure oriole]

So then what point were you even trying to make

[burnt moss]

The next Doom. It’s supposed to be like a monster truck where eternal was a race car.

[slow sigil]

Monster trucks can go pretty fast

[azure oriole]

that could mean anything plus monster trucks are still vehicles

[azure oriole]

exactly lmao

[slow sigil]

I just hope they dont dumb stuff down mostly

[azure oriole]

a one off comment by Hugo on a live stream shouldn’t be your basis for the entire future development of dooms sequel btw

[burnt moss]

That’s not how analogies work.

[slow sigil]

It's even now early in development sooo

[azure oriole]

yeah early

and that comment was made like a year ago or more

[burnt moss]

I’m allowed to speculate based on the most up-to-date information available.

[azure oriole]

either way I’m still not sure how a slow paced game such as metro exodus is no longer an FPS just because it’s slow

[slow sigil]

And maybe the slow down the game just a lil bit to make room for more thinking

[burnt moss]

What does slow mean here?

[slow sigil]

Cause tbf, there really isnt that big of a stockpile of complicated shooters

[azure oriole]

You’re the one creating new definitions for FPS as we speak, how about you answer that yourself

[burnt moss]

I think if you go too much more complex you remove emphasis from the fighting aspect of the game.

[burnt moss]

Means less running and shooting

To me

[azure oriole]

Less? Meaning it’s no longer an FPS?

What is less? Like I don’t think you thought this one through very well homie

[slow sigil]

It's complicated in the fighting

[burnt moss]

Zelda OoT, Super Mario Bros, and even Minecraft all have both movement and shooting, but none are considered FPS. Because of the emphasis shift.

[azure oriole]

🤣🤣🤣

[slow sigil]

....because they arent in first person nor are they shooters lol

[random vault]

hi

[wary crane]

Would anyone like to see slayer gameplay?
Battle mode slayer #livestreams

[random vault]

no ty

[slow sigil]

I can just google it

[azure oriole]

Battlemode gamer

[burnt moss]

So if Zelda OoT was first person, it’d be an FPS? Or is there more to an FPS than the shooting capability?

[azure oriole]

Well there’s the whole first person + shooting part

[slow sigil]

But in zelda you arent mostly shooting either

[wary crane]

yessir

[burnt moss]

Ding ding ding.

[azure oriole]

Lol what

[random vault]

wowe

[burnt moss]

Thus my thesis that slower pace detracts from a game’s status as an FPS. Less time spent running and shooting risks the game emphasizing something besides shooting.

[azure forum]

Just played against a lv50 slayer with gold skin. Couldn't even quick swap lol best example of cheesing UN

[random vault]

voldeneyes iq is just above all of ours

[wary crane]

tragic😭

[slow sigil]

But if you primarely shoot it's still a fps, just with an emphasis on cover/running too

[azure oriole]

Half life 2 is not an FPS because I have to stop and do physic based puzzles sometimes

[random vault]

🙀

[wary crane]

Are you playing console? W mans

[burnt moss]

Right. I am not establishing a hard line, just a gradient between “this is an FPS” and “this is an exploration game but you’re armed”.

Or some other genre

[slow sigil]

A game can be both exploration and fps

[burnt moss]

It’s all about the extent to which it is either. You mainly fire in first person in Zelda OoT when you do shoot. But the game is not based on shooting.

[slow sigil]

Yes

[burnt moss]

In fact it’s basically the same model as DE.

[slow sigil]

So zelda oot has very slight fps mechanics

[random vault]

botw is an fps

i shoot my bow in it

[burnt moss]

My point is that having weapons you can shoot doesn’t make a game an FPS. The upcoming Perfect Dark game has already been announced to not be an FPS.

[wary crane]

everyone has their own opinions right? Only matters if you have fun

[burnt moss]

So I think it’s a fair question, whether the next Doom will be an FPS or go a different direction.

[burnt moss]

Whether it’s an FPS will determine whether some players have fun.

[azure forum]

Yep, I play on switch

[random vault]

i love nintendo switch

[grizzled bear]

same here

[random vault]

who thumbs down

[burnt moss]

I wish I’d bought the Xbox from the beginning

Not the switch

[burnt moss]

Hi

[random vault]

i have both

and a ps5

[azure forum]

It seems like a lot of players actually play DE on switch these days

The portability aspect is just great

[burnt moss]

Is that the only reason then?

[grizzled bear]

it is but the frames get low sometimes

[azure oriole]

"somtimes" more like always

[grizzled bear]

i guess im used to it

[burnt moss]

Switch is like a Moped

[azure oriole]

playing DE on switch with joycons is just so painful

only way i can play is with a pro controller

[burnt moss]

I do miss gyro though

[azure forum]

Nah, battlemode is the main reason for me. Portability goes next. That's my opinion

[burnt moss]

Where do people go, that they need or want portability?

[patent stream]

It’s the choice and ability of it

[strange gale]

beating UN at that level is totally feasible.

[burnt moss]

You missed the point

[strange gale]

that he assumes low level = UN cheese?

[burnt moss]

But like where would anyone ever go that they’d want to play the switch for what, 2 hours until needing to plug it in anyway?

[burnt moss]

Guy can’t quickswap, so he assumes cheese

[strange gale]

right, and i addressed that

[burnt moss]

I assumed that by “level” you meant level.

[strange gale]

good execution doesn't make up for terrible decisionmaking (with exceptions). bad execution is also not a sign of lacking in other areas.

[patent stream]

Anywhere and everywhere

Idk why you would buy a switch if you didn’t want Nintendo exclusives or the portability of it

There are a vast vast vast number of reasons and situations to take things easily to places

[burnt moss]

The assumption I think most of us would make is that if you can’t quickswap you can’t beat UN. There are exceptions of course.

[strange gale]

that is a bad assumption to make.

[patent stream]

There’s a fair amount of leeway to not need to do excessive quickswapping. Dodging is more important

If you have movement and timed kills down / take it easy UN a an be fairly possible without overly quickswapping

[burnt moss]

Given that you all always suggest quickswaps to beginning/intermediate players, I thought it was valued as a necessary skill for advanced play.

[patent stream]

Quickswapping, and the extent, of quickswapping

But again. Ballista ssg and rocket does so much damage just slowly swapping between the 3 is more than enough for base game

[burnt moss]

It makes a better family system. We tried out my in-laws’ and rather than researching other systems we just went for it.

[patent stream]

Eh every system is the same for a “family system” unless you meant it has more split screen / kid friendly games

[burnt moss]

I’m never unoccupied away from home that long. So I can’t really imagine.

[patent stream]

Portability also doesn’t just mean away from home

[strange gale]

we suggest quickswaps to new players because getting the hang of something like BL SSG feels good, and is a good primer for endgame/modded content where quickswaps become a necessity. not so much in base campaign.

[patent stream]

I love to be in the living room, back room, my bed, my chair , the floor

[burnt moss]

Nintendo just has more of a family reputation. Xbox and PlayStation are higher performance, and for gamers.

[patent stream]

Not tied to simply 1 area

[patent stream]

That……has so much wrong with it but I can’t help you there

[burnt moss]

For one thing the switch comes with 2 Joycons

We bought it so we could play Overcooked together

[patent stream]

Best to move to #general

[real yarrow]

guys im stuck on a level could someone help

[patent stream]

Is it cultist base?

[real yarrow]

nvm i was just being stupid i had to punch a wall

[sacred dirge]

That will do it

Pro tip. Punch walls that look broken

[random vault]

this tip works for real life also

[azure oriole]

pro tip: punch green objects

[burnt moss]

How do you do, fellow gamers?

[gray rivet]

im almost done work, so i can finally fuckin play Deternal

[dense owl]

Kind of Same, kids to bed at 11 pm.. Arduino project from 11 to 0:30, then doom until 2pm. THAT is a president life 🤣

[gray rivet]

Hell yea

Why don't the devs just let us skip king novik at the start

[azure oriole]

Because he's so cool and awesome and you should hear what he has to say

[olive silo]

Novik is based and slayerpilled

[azure forum]

question, TAG1 wasnt updated recently, right?

[olive silo]

it hasn't been updated in awhile

[burnt moss]

Samur has a screw loose

[azure forum]

So the possesed baron in Bloodswaps, big arena where you get half of the shield, the spirit hasnt spawn twice in a row for me

[burnt moss]

On switch?

[olive silo]

oh yeah its been updated actually, the baron was changed to a hell knight

[azure forum]

but instead, the revenant at the entrance of one of the paths is possesed

No, not that one. The one that was never changed

Nope, playing on stadia

It happened last time I played Tag1 about 1 week ago and i thought it was something random

[burnt moss]

All I know is two Cacos right after the booster pad in Exultia never spawn anymore

[azure forum]

im playing TAG1 again, and it happpened again

Let me take a recording so you see what revenant

so I never fought the possesed baron that spawns with other 2-3 barons in that arena. Bummer

[jaunty vapor]

So this happens consistently in other places with certain spirits but basicallyyyyyyy if you skip certain enemies, and if spawns get fucked somehow (or even if they're not fucked and the game just fucks), spirits can spawn into enemies already existing IF they can get possessed.

[azure forum]

https://stadia.google.com/capture/f48c026e-46d2-4616-a527-786f598ce4b6

[jaunty vapor]

Or rather, if the spirit is coded to possess those types of enemies.

[azure forum]

Hmmmm some random weird shit then

[jaunty vapor]

The most obvious examples of this for a long time (though they've sort of been patched/fixed?) is in Blood Swamps right before the... left side big doors (the one wwith the platforming after), it's a Hell Knight and a Dread Knight. The Hell Knight is SUPPOSED to be possessed but often he would never spawn possessed.

And in Holt, a Cyber Manc + Hell Knight spawn, the Cyber Manc was supposed to spawn possessed, but because of fucky wucky timing, the Hell Knight was often the one who spawned possessd instead.

[azure forum]

Right, Ive seen that one before - the HK and DK one

[jaunty vapor]

It all becomes more common when you leave enemies alive and skip fight and shit, etc. etc. But still possible in general

[azure oriole]

bloodshot goin 165wpm wr pb

[azure forum]

but in this case the baron I think spawn... I didnt count how many to be honest. Maybe something triggers that in Blood swamps

Nonethless, it is cool to see a possesed Revenant since they dont show in game I think

[azure oriole]

arch ville

[vale egret]

Weiner

[coarse plume]

i decided to start an ultra nightmare run

died to a cacodemon in 2 hits

[primal relic]

Mod where the revenant sounds are replaced with the bad to the bone riff

[dim solar]

WTF I'm pretty sure there was never a POS revenant in the entirety of the TAG campaign

I'm even willing to say in the entirety of the game, not in master levels or horde mode

so yeah, that's some weird shit right there

[azure forum]

Yep, it happened twice alreadty. Something must trigger the baron to not get possesed

[sacred dirge]

Peice of shit revenant?

[chrome wren]

it's pretty large

about 1.4x your size

[dim solar]

Yes, but what I can tell you for sure is that somewhere in TAG you are going to run into a Piece of Shit Marauder

and it's gonna be annoying

[chrome wren]

or two

[dim solar]

not to mention there is also his not so amicable cousin, the Piece of Shit Tyrant

[chrome wren]

tyrants are just large punching bags

compared to the doom slayer it is

I'm using the doom slayer as a reference point

[last hamlet]

Doomguy is very tall

The cyberdemons are massive

[sacred dirge]

Oh those fuckers

[azure forum]

the only demon i hate are those damn pinkies. They always give me a hard time for some reason

[coarse plume]

whiplash

theyre awful

[warm bough]

Ice bomb fixes them

[last hamlet]

You shoot the deman with the lock on rocket

[coarse plume]

and also marauders but theyre really only bad if its accompanied by like 2039 other demons

[last hamlet]

The whiplash needs to be censored😡😡😡

Not wearing a shirt that no safe for work😡

[timid plank]

damn, my extra life ultra violence run ended cause I stupidly tried to do a secret encounter with no extra life left

whiplashes are the worst, at least I can run away from the marauder, kill everyone else then duel him, I can't run away from whiplash's whips

[honest tusk]

I reinstalled doom eternal only to realize it's a rerun event I have every reward of already

[timid plank]

can't decide between buying the doom eternal year one pass, the spider-man game coming to pc or save my money lol

[last hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/iron-man2-whisplash-villain-electricity-walking-gif-17186124

Guys look out its whiplash

[fallen mesa]

I hate whiplashes...

[last hamlet]

Whiplash from doom eternal is a funny woman

But whiplash is not wearing clothes this game is inappropriate 😡😡

[fallen mesa]

Then murder them for it

[last hamlet]

I bought my son this video game expecting a nice family friendly video game only to be quite shocked to find out this game features nudity on the female bad guy

I was horrified by the detailed nudity featured in this video game I had previously assumed to be friendly for my 5 year old son

I will be writing a formal handwritten letter to Microsoft for this abhorrent act committed in the electronic entertainment they have created

[robust gale]

What have i walked in on

[last hamlet]

Have fun in court, doug bowser.

[fallen mesa]

[robust gale]

Wait the whiplash is a woman?

[haughty gorge]

Question how did demons come to earth

[gray rivet]

Lol

[gray rivet]

Someone shidded them out

[haughty gorge]

Thanks for the useful info

[fallen mesa]

A simple solution to whiplash nudity is lock on burst.

[timid plank]

does lock on burst one shot them?

also, microwave beam is awesome if you know how to use it right I learned

[fallen mesa]

Yes.

[timid plank]

nice, I'll use that from now on

[fallen mesa]

Im in the process of learning microwave beam.

[timid plank]

Under The Mayo turned me into it

[timid oracle]

Unless those mf just move wcross the map in 0.1 seconds AGAIN

[bleak star]

Hello chat opinions on this, how threatening was the Khan Maykr in your Nightmare or Ultra-Nightmare runs of Eternal

[timid plank]

the fact that microwave beam stuns any demon (almost) is the main thing

[fallen mesa]

Same

[random vault]

i have not watched a single under the mayo video

[fallen mesa]

Lock on burst destroyed him on my nightmare run. I haven't made it that far on un

[timid plank]

he has very useful stuff on doom eternal

[bleak star]

She's fairly a joke, the only bosses that really gave me trouble was Gladiator or OFC Icon of Sin

[random vault]

i haven’t play N or UN

[timid plank]

I tried Nightmare, gave up at doom hunter base

[bleak star]

It's not that bad really

[timid plank]

maybe I'll try again another time

I just got too frustrated so I deleted the save lol (I was stuck on the same fight for a few days)

[fallen mesa]

The gladiator was a rough time for me

[timid plank]

It was a breeze on ultra violence though

[alpine plaza]

goddamn

[bleak star]

Well yeah UV isn't that bad

[alpine plaza]

are you playing on pc?

[timid plank]

yeah

[bleak star]

I play on PS4 and It took me awhile but I have managed to quick switch like PC players do

[alpine plaza]

cant give any tips then

i finished nightmare on console whitout any major problems

[bleak star]

It took me a long time to really properly quick switch effectively there ngl

[alpine plaza]

i died a lot on some parts because of me trying to do cool stunts

[bleak star]

I've only beaten UN once and I don't think i wanna do it again

The Icon of Sin almost made me lose my Run on its last sliver of health

[fallen mesa]

I still can't get past cultist base lol

[alpine plaza]

ive actually managed to beat the icon of sin on nightmare whitout dying once

no chrono strike no lives

[bleak star]

My first Nightmare Run was about 5 deaths on it

[fallen mesa]

I cope hard ngl

[bleak star]

Second was 3, then third Run was just 1

[alpine plaza]

though i got to 1 or 5hp one time

[bleak star]

My nerves were Against me

[alpine plaza]

im doing extra lives mode after im finished with the ancient gods

[bleak star]

Since it wasn't like standard nightmare where if I die I can try again. I needed to realize if I die the run is thrown in the garbage

[alpine plaza]

samur boss fight kind has its tricks

[bleak star]

Unfortunately I don't have TAG, I want to get it tho

[alpine plaza]

its difficult

[bleak star]

I've heard it is, basically a Thy Flesh Consumed DLC of eternal yeah?

[alpine plaza]

maybe idk

[fallen mesa]

It's definitely a much tougher challenge compared to the base campaign

[bleak star]

I remember though for some reason seeing the reviews if TAG2 was kinda not good why so

[fallen mesa]

And if you beat tag 2 on nightmare you get gold weapons.

[fallen mesa]

People didn't like tag2 because of its lack of difficulty

[bleak star]

Wasn't it's Hammer part of the issue and it's final boss?

I heard it was like 2016's boss fight in how it was just more of a bullet sponge fight

[fallen mesa]

However it's been updated, so it's a little more tough than it used to be, but the sentinel hammer will become your new best friend.

The final boss sucks

[bleak star]

Doesn't it refresh every 2 Glory Kills

[fallen mesa]

Or two crits.

[bleak star]

Wow that's not good. That's way too easy

That can happen in the Span of like 4 seconds

[bleak star]

Tag1's boss fight is pretty good tho yeah? Since of how the Arena is made

[fallen mesa]

It's definitely a challenge, one that had me very frustrated.

I like it better than tag 1s, but tag 2s soundtrack

It's pretty good

[bleak star]

I do wanna try the DLC myself to give it a fair chance and since its more Doom

[fallen mesa]

It's definitely more doom. I highly recommend them both

[bleak star]

I'll give it a shot when i get the money

Cause rn I'm just stuck with base eternal

And I don't really like Battlemode and I wanna try horde but I think I'll be confused since I haven't played TAG

[azure forum]

Battlemode is fun once you get into it. It is tough at first, so I understand.

[fallen mesa]

Well, it will definitely let you know what to expect lol

And I'm not really a battlemode player either.

[bleak star]

Know I have played it and tried to legit get into it and not just doing ten games and that's it but i don't like it

[azure forum]

That's OK. It is not for everybody

You should definitely get the DLCs though. They are great

[burnt moss]

I have nothing but contempt for Battlemode

TAG is great

[bleak star]

I will absolutely check it out and play them. Plus with my ADHD brain I like the "Gun, ME SHOOT GUN ME MOVE FAST OOGA BOOGA"

So more of that equals fun

[azure forum]

I personally love battlemode. I mostly like playing as demon more than slayer since ypu have more options and it is great to play with other great players and against very good slayers

[fallen mesa]

Tag is Venezuelan inflation

[bleak star]

I'm a bit of a basic mf and liked 2016's multiplayer more

[random vault]

me irl

[bleak star]

To me it just felt like there was more options available

[azure forum]

Just go full oonga boonga when you get it

[bleak star]

Don't gotta tell me twice

[random vault]

adhd moment (so relatable) (just like me fr)

[bleak star]

They just like me... THEY JUST LIKE ME FR!!! THEY JUST LIKE MEEEE /q

[azure forum]

https://tenor.com/view/caveman-carlos-bunga-carlitos-captain-gif-20967658

[random vault]

what is /q

[bleak star]

Tone tag for quote

[random vault]

ngl i dont really do this

[random vault]

why didnt you add quotation marks also

[bleak star]

Bc

[random vault]

before christ

[bleak star]

Tho is the hammer really that OP

It also gives ammo like the chainsaw yeah?

[random vault]

hammer is good

[random vault]

yes, and if you freeze and flame enemies you can get everything all at once

[azure forum]

Hammer is OP as heck, so it makes TAG2 fun but easier.

[fallen mesa]

And stuns them for like a million years

[random vault]

so true

[bleak star]

I think I'd rather not use the hammer as often then

[azure forum]

You really get to use the hammer in World Spear master level.

[bleak star]

I like the challenging aspect of it so I'd rather not abuse it

[fallen mesa]

Of you chain a hammer and an ice bomb, tyrants are a joke.

[bleak star]

They already get harassed via the energy shield I think it's enough the hammer makes it worse

[random vault]

and a flame belch

[burnt moss]

My declaration: ANYTHING (besides Sentinel Armor) the game gives you to use is fair game and shouldn’t “qualify” your victory in any way.

[random vault]

^^^ this

[bleak star]

I feel shame using it

[fallen mesa]

You're the slayer, you're meant to be overpowered lol

Make the demons suffer

[bleak star]

I'd rather take it like a champ and not use the baby armor thanks

[random vault]

100% agree, if they give me an item, i can use it as much as i want. im not gunna feel guilty or whatever

[burnt moss]

I’ve started playing Mortal Kombat and, while it’s fun to fight raw, it’s also really fun to use konsumables to just obliterate opponents

[fallen mesa]

The sentinel armor is boring

[burnt moss]

So I’m trying to get over the guilt we seem to have about using shield, BFG, etc

[alpine plaza]

you guys feel guilt using the shield???

[bleak star]

Not really lol

[random vault]

i never have guilt

[fallen mesa]

Not at all

[bleak star]

I only have guilt and shame with the sentinel armor that's it

[random vault]

i will play however i want and if you u shame me then fuck you

[burnt moss]

I said besides sentinel armor. Since it’s not earned or managed by you, I consider it too meta/OP to be fair

[alpine plaza]

i can understand bfg but the rest is just the tools the game gives you

[bleak star]

Im aware lmao it's me agreeing

[burnt moss]

Some fans here feel like invincibility is too much

[random vault]

also ngl idk what sentinel armor is, ive never seen that in game

[fallen mesa]

I think we can all mutually agree on the sentinel armor lol

[alpine plaza]

on my first playthrough i used sentinel armor on all of the bosses 😔

[burnt moss]

When you die to a boss several times, the game offers you sentinel armor to use for that boss phase. It nerfs damage DRAMATICALLY. And it’s free

[random vault]

oh cool, guess im just a epic gamer who doesnt die and doesn’t need the armor

[burnt moss]

I’m so sorry. So did I. It’s not your fault; show us where the mean sentinel armor touched you.

[bleak star]

It feels like damn near invincibility which isn't fun. I like the feeling and rush of having to be quick to move and using my resources smart and effectively basically it's all under my control. Especially in being a destructive force while still basically having the chance of dying easily but still having the ability to make the demons die so easily

The armor feels like "Oh well you don't need to be careful now bc you're damn near invincible!" is why i don't like the armor

Tho I don't shame others who use it just myself

[burnt moss]

I used it on Khan Maykr and the floor was lava but I no longer cared. And this was on ITYTD that I kept dying.

[random vault]

https://tenor.com/view/hq_cat_what-gif-24016552

[bleak star]

Basically the "Power Earned is more fun than power given to you" mentality for me

[burnt moss]

I just tell others they will feel ashamed for using it.

[random vault]

i never needed it, and i was on pain myself bountifully

[alpine plaza]

the main reason i returned to the game was because of the shame of using sentinel armor

[burnt moss]

We were victimized by the sentinel armor. It took out innocence.

[alpine plaza]

so i returned seeking redemption

and goddamn i got redemption

[random vault]

cool

[burnt moss]

I’m struggling with knowing I’m only a NM player when I have gyro controls

[tawdry field]

I got a question

[burnt moss]

Suh

[tawdry field]

Is there anything new coming to Eternal or what?

[alpine plaza]

probably not

[burnt moss]

No it’s dead

[tawdry field]

Well that’s a shame

[bleak star]

In terms of content yeah it's dead nothing new

[burnt moss]

Preaching to the choir

[random vault]

no lmao

[tawdry field]

I was hoping we’d get a new horde mode levels and such

[alpine plaza]

they're working on a new game regardless

[bleak star]

Hopefully it's not eternal 2, since it feels like a once in a life time game

[tawdry field]

It does

[flint flame]

No point, story’s over

[bleak star]

No as in terms of gameplay. Not story.

We know the story is done I mean in how it plays and handles

[alpine plaza]

i guess the main plot in eternal

[random vault]

hi totally saber

[fallen mesa]

A doom eternal, halo cross over would be cool.

[random vault]

no ty

[icy ice]

So I did the holt on nightmare a few times today and my best run has 3 deaths. Much better than where I started with like 20+ lol

[burnt moss]

Sounds terrible. I’ve only done it like twice and died a ton

[cyan frigate]

*done being supported with new content

its still alive with plenty being still playing/loving it 😎

[wintry eagle]

Yo what skin should I use for doom slayer?

[cyan frigate]

which ones do you have?

[wintry eagle]

Basically almost all the unlock-able ones

[cyan frigate]

some of my personal faves are ember, aurum, classic marine and 64? 25th ann.

[wintry eagle]

And also muller slayer

I want the 64 skin real bad but I don’t know how to get it

[azure forum]

Green chrome, praetor and tropical

One of those 3

[wintry eagle]

I’ll go with praetor

[burnt moss]

Doomguy in Mortal Kombat, what do you think?

[wintry eagle]

Could work

[fallen mesa]

I still use default skin lol

[wintry eagle]

Valid

[flint flame]

Been gone for a while, and it’s going to take a long time for it to have it’s re run event

[random vault]

i like phobos

[azure forum]

I use all default stuff for battlemode except for the skin.

Phobos is a cool looking skin that is easy to obtain

[random vault]

i like how it has gold, but not completely covered, and its a different looking gold

[wintry eagle]

Yeah

[fallen mesa]

I like phobos too. It's shiny

[azure forum]

All gold skins are overrated. They don't even look good

[fallen mesa]

It's like a great value gold

[random vault]

this

if you want a gold skin, dont just recolor something else, be unique and make it look good

[icy ice]

Yea it's pretty rough at first. The hardest part about it is the boss fight. Particularly the last two phases.

What makes the possessed fight doable is 2 bfg shots for the pain elemental.

[midnight sparrow]

The first gold skin they had looked ok, the one you get for TAG looks like shit though

[sacred dirge]

Platinum skin for UN would have been better

Gold for nightmare maybe

[random vault]

true…

[last hamlet]

Ranger

[gray saddle]

Doomicorn

[valid thorn]

[uncut rock]

Saber Goodman

[olive silo]

I cant wait for the Photo Mode to come out of beta! It's been in beta since 2016, I sure hope they're working on it!

[slow sigil]

They just slap beta on it so thry can wave away any bugs lol

[subtle dragon]

[static trout]

the tag1 skin

the maykr slayer

[valid thorn]

[static trout]

the maykr slayer skin my guy

[valid thorn]

Remember rip

[static trout]

?

[valid thorn]

Cmon you know the doom line

[static trout]

nope

[azure oriole]

Rip... and... T-

[static trout]

oh

[strange gale]

♻️

[azure oriole]

True

[valid thorn]

Rip and tear

[static trout]

rip and tear

[azure oriole]

True

[static trout]

doom

[azure oriole]

How is it accessible anyway? I saw that setting but I was confused where is it even usable, only game mechanic I haven’t really seen/used 😂

[flint flame]

It’s in the settings to enable it, then in-game press Lalt

[azure oriole]

I’m on controller, ps5. In bethesda site it says “Once Photo Mode has been enabled you may press Right-Alt on a keyboard or Down on the D-Pad of a controller to access Photo Mode during gameplay.” but not sure about that, I had it enabled the whole time tho but ingame I don’t think it ever tells you which button to press ingame.. also nothing happens for me.

I’m guessing it’s only usable in certain situations.. but it’s odd considering this game allows you to render diff styles, customize hud, but where is the photo mode?

From d pad down it shows challenges I have pinned and objectives. Not photo mode.

[flint flame]

It shows a little icon once enabled on your hud what button to press

[azure oriole]

Nvm it says ”only allowed through mission select” so I have to test it then when I replay lvls to find the secrets and slayer gates etc. A lot of games allow photomode through campaings too so it’s little unusual solution.

GOod morning LaDs.

[gray rivet]

Morning

[timid relic]

Afternoon for me fella

Just kidding 🗿

[fast sage]

Hm

[gray rivet]

hmm

[sacred dirge]

Morning. Give away your credit information lately?

[azure oriole]

Credit Information?

[sacred dirge]

Because you're always getting scammed

[azure oriole]

"""Always"" it was my first

[sacred dirge]

Sure

[azure oriole]

Yeah. I'm not capping

it was my first

[burnt moss]

I think you’re scamming us

[azure oriole]

how 😱

[gray rivet]

👀

[azure forum]

So, the doom annihilation movie doesn't show doomguy in it?

[burnt moss]

If I knew that it wouldn’t be a scam

[ancient plaza]

Yes

[azure forum]

How the heck did that movie even get released?

[azure oriole]

that movie isn't even a doom movie if it doesn't have doom guy in it.

[sacred dirge]

Who needs a doom guy

[fallen mesa]

Is doom even doom without the doomguy?

[azure oriole]

I mean I think In some doom there was a doom without doomguy

Gougaru will prob know cuz he is a doom boomer

[mental valley]

yeah doom 3 never had doomguy. it was this nameless dude

[spark saffron]

Yep

[slow sigil]

Tbf next game could do without doomguy as protagonist

[fallen mesa]

Never played doom 3 lol

[spark saffron]

It's fun

[slow sigil]

We need a reason to get doonguy out of the coffin and doing a 2016 again is boring

[mental valley]

yeah the ending of doom eternal doomguy is resting for another battle so there is a 50/50 chance of doomguy being in the next game

[slow sigil]

He can be in it, but just not the protagonist

[burnt moss]

How much doom could a Doomguy doom if a Doomguy could doom doom?

[slow sigil]

64

[burnt moss]

Make him a bad guy

[sacred dirge]

TNT in final doom

[mental valley]

yeah doom guy could destroy the earth

like how he did to mars

[slow sigil]

Ah yes cause there is a bfg on the moon

[fallen mesa]

If he really wanted to he could probably just punch it and earth would just seize to exist lol

[sacred dirge]

Well he's known as the doom marine

Or doom3guy

[slow sigil]

Tbf doomguy is unnamed aswell

[slow sigil]

"Lore accurate doomguy" mfers on their way to say shit like this

[mental valley]

wait is og doomguy and 2016/eternal doomguy diffrent

[slow sigil]

No, same person
It's just that he has powers in 2016/eternal

[burnt moss]

Mortal Kombat 12 should have Doomguy as the bad guy.

[slow sigil]

And having those powers makes him the slayer

[fallen mesa]

Pretty much every doom lore video in the comment sections lol

[mental valley]

oh because og doom takes place like next year in our current time while 2016/eternal takes place in 21something

[slow sigil]

Jup, fake doomlore fans hate to think that what we see ingame is his strength lol

[slow sigil]

Different universes, same doomguy

[mental valley]

yeah i could be wrong

doom lore is still new to me

[slow sigil]

Doomguy travelled universi (that isnt hell) after d64

[mental valley]

at least we get the same good doomguy

[valid thorn]

What are you talking about

[mental valley]

we are talking about you holy slayer

[azure oriole]

❔

[primal relic]

I’d like for the mentioned archdemons to play a role in the next game

[static trout]

I’d like every enemy in the next game to be a posessed pain elemental

[gray rivet]

every waking moment of a pain elemental's life is excruciating torment

[slow sigil]

Good.

[azure oriole]

:clueless:

[random vault]

no lmao

[azure oriole]

not that much, ya gonna have to wait 2more.

[slow sigil]

Only?? 2 years is quite some support for a sp game lol
Not everything has to be life service

[random vault]

mhm

[slow sigil]

They just have an algoritm for the next event, ID is doing nothing with those

And doom isnt for the MP tbf, and they atleast, tried something unique

[jaunty vapor]

I mean if 2016s multiplayer was so good why would they need to make a new one?

It's more interesting to try new game modes rather than retreading Deathmatch, ESPECIALLY since there was also Quake Champions

Honestly I'm most disappointed that we won't be getting Invasion mode. I thought it would be a funny thing to do once before it was announced it was indefinitely delayed, but then playing the invasion mode mod actually amde me realize how well invasion could have worked.

Really DE just needs to make a "sandbox" type mode, dlc, new game, whatever, and modders will keep the game afloat for 2 more years

[amber mauve]

how many cmds in doom eternal

[slow sigil]

You arent obliged to do MP tbf, again the main appeal is SP

Tbf deathmatch wouldnt work that well with eternal gameplay

[random vault]

hi

[slow sigil]

You can fuckign grind doomXP

[random vault]

doom xp (like windows xp)

[slow sigil]

you have what you want though, something to grind for

[strange gale]

grinding is such a dogshit form of progression

[random vault]

grinding is only good if i enjoy it

[azure oriole]

I like grind games ngl

[slow sigil]

But are you really grinding then, or just doing something fun and just so happen to get something for it

[random vault]

oh shit, thats true asf

[slow sigil]

No, grinding is just repeatedly doing a task over and over till you get something
Having fun is, well, having fun

[strange gale]

idk man, grinding is usually thought of as killing trash mobs or doing some other simple task over and over for some reward

doesn't sound very fun to me

[azure oriole]

I agree.

[random vault]

guess i wasnt grinding then, time to go play genshin impact for another 50 hours

[azure oriole]

Genshin ain't that bad of a grinding game I know much worse

[random vault]

cookie clicker:

[azure oriole]

roblox bee swarm simulator. let me introduce myself

[random vault]

❔

[azure oriole]

I started playing genshin 2 days ago and I'm almost ar30 (out of context)

[random vault]

i played genshin for 12+ hours straight once

[azure oriole]

same yestrday

[random vault]

went from ar 1 to ar 16

[jaunty vapor]

If you want something to grind for, why not take up speedrunning?

[random vault]

???

[jaunty vapor]

As far as "the multiplayer is boring," it is to you but to others it's very engaging at a high level of play.

[azure oriole]

Sadly I can't speedrun. anything cuz my steam got hacked. and the only game I got is minecraft which is boring

[jaunty vapor]

That is true. But as a speedrunner for Doom Eternal I can attest that Doom Eternal IS fun to Speedrun

[random vault]

speedrun club penguin ban any%

[strange gale]

right, not having low execution + a small decision pool = bad mode

[dim solar]

redoing the dark lord boss fight several times so I can learn the boss and beat him consistently without dying is a good form of grinding, redoing the dark lord boss fight 10 times so I can advance to level 284 or some BS like that is a bad form of grinding

[jaunty vapor]

Neat. I've probably beaten Doom Eternal 1000 times

[azure oriole]

for the past 3days I played genshin Impact cuz it's like the only game I have to play day to day besides TBOIR

[jaunty vapor]

I mean any game can be played casually or competitively. GoW has movement tech like wall bounces and shit which especially makes multiplayer more hectic at a higher level of play

[random vault]

im going to speedrun BOTW and get top 194759936485th place

[azure oriole]

what is ""gow"" ?

[jaunty vapor]

...uh... OH

[flint flame]

God of war I presume

[random vault]

i think god of war

[azure oriole]

god of war?

[jaunty vapor]

You're talking God of War. I thought you meant Gears of War

Lol whoops

[random vault]

Lol

[jaunty vapor]

Yeah that was my b

[azure oriole]

the only games that interest me are genshin and the binding of issac rep

I lost steam i had 90% games there

[random vault]

“big L” ???

both are good games tf?

[azure oriole]

and besides genshin ain't that bad and issac is amazing

[strange gale]

as if playing video games isn't an L in itself

[azure oriole]

I got hacked??? as I said before

[cyan frigate]

most true thing ive ever heard. ive beaten and done a million un completions, challenge un completions, etc. on ml’s and dlc’s and base game. BUT, ive always known how to do the skips and tech to go faster, but just never implemented it because i felt it was more fun to play everything no skips/tech for some reason. now im doing slobs, insane skips, manipulating spawns, etc. my pb on sgn ml un is like 15 minutes now

[mental stone]

You lose steam when you just don't have the drive to keep going.

[random vault]

i dont understand this

[azure oriole]

my life is already an L

[mental stone]

All lives start with L.

[random vault]

my life is good

[jaunty vapor]

Whether or not someone wants to do full runs and skips and shit, I haven't found anyone who doesn't think Sausage Skip is at least sick as fuck

That's the joy of speedrunning for me, just the "cool shit" that can be done even just casually/for fun.

My favorite streams are the streams where I stop everything and just talk about the history of orange ring fight

[azure oriole]

bloodshot, speedrunning any% pb typing on phone

[flint flame]

My life be like ooo aaa yeah oooo

[random vault]

my life is blue, da ba dee da ba die

[cyan frigate]

i do most of the encounters/platforming. but if theres a part ive done a million times no sweat, and im bored of it, i just skip it lmao. thats why when i saw your video on the dog fog section skipped i got so happy because that part bores me to no end, i was heartbroken to see it didnt work anymore haha

whats the sausage skip though 👀

[jaunty vapor]

That skip being patched was so dumb. Although it was dumber that it was in in the first place lol

[random vault]

huh?

[mental stone]

I'm blue, I would beat up a guy. I would beat up a guy, I would beat up a guy, I would beat up a guy. I would beat up a guy. I would beat up a guy or die.

[flint flame]