doom-eternal

[craggy token]

whats new in eternal

just coming back

[azure oriole]

Nothing new

Same shit

[azure forum]

Nothing new since update 6.66.

[craggy token]

i wanna go ape shit in it again but i took a break bc i got bored

then played other games but thats a L

sad face 😦

[burnt moss]

How could I know that?

[flint flame]

Gotta enable the performance setting

[craggy token]

taras nabad can suck my dick

amount of runs i lost

astonishing

[flint flame]

Now imagine the master level

[craggy token]

ultra made me wanna just kms

[flint flame]

Ultra nightmare or ultra violence?

[craggy token]

Ultra nightmare

i broke like 2 controllers

over my entire time playing tho

1st campaign hard asf

[strange gale]

over vidya

[craggy token]

rest were okay

id die on kahnmaker or taras

was livid asf

[azure forum]

TN ML UN gives you the best icon at least

[severe ermine]

how

i cant rage enough to throw controllers

[azure oriole]

campaign taras nabad cant be that hard

[severe ermine]

its hard on your first playthrough

[sacred dirge]

If I ever raged and broke my pro controller I'd go into retirement

[severe ermine]

^

80 dollar razor controller im not breaking that hell naw

[wraith sail]

How powerful is a Heat blast fully charged + Blood punch

[slow sigil]

Not all that powerfull

[patent stream]

I’m too broke to rage

[azure oriole]

Same

[sleek siren]

Just punch your pillow lmao

[last hamlet]

What did the pillow ever do to yoy

[burnt moss]

What’s that?

I love my pro controller too much to throw it. I like it more than my Switch itself

[sacred dirge]

Yeah.. pretty sure my controller cost as much as a last Gen console lol

[sleek siren]

I’m so pissed I almost beat the second slayer gate but I glitched into a ledge

[severe ermine]

what difficulty

[fading oracle]

how do I redeem the Deluxe edition slayer skin

[lofty latch]

Can someone help me to get the blood bath trophy, I need 150 kills 🙏🏼

[hazy whale]

I'm looking for people to add as boosting partners for the summer Eternal event. I am playing a lot every day so if you need someone as well go ahead and add me on steam, my friend code is 41656719. Thanks 🙂

[alpine plaza]

I just brought tag 😁

And it is Indeed hard

It is full of my worst nightmares

Long arenas 😩

[cyan frigate]

Are you on xbox?

Wait nevermind i just saw you said steam lmao im blind

[hazy whale]

No worries man! Keep slaying.

[cyan frigate]

Absolute gamer 😎

[burnt moss]

It is recommended that you play at a lower difficulty level when you start TAG

[nocturne skiff]

doom slayer collectible

although the fist bump in 2016 is better than the sword in eternal

[alpine plaza]

Seems reasonable but i am doing it in nighmare

[sleek siren]

Nightmare

[severe ermine]

understandable

[sleek siren]

Literally the only thing left were imps and a 1 spider robot thing so I killed the other 2 and 3 mancubus and 2 cocas and 3 prowlers

Hopefully I beat it tmr

[severe ermine]

prowlers make me want to rip and tear even more

[sleek siren]

First time facing them and they’re annoying they teleport every half a second

[severe ermine]

when i get the glory kill where i rip there spine and head out, the amount of satisfaction is immeasurable

that has to be one of the most brutal glory kills

[sleek siren]

The most funny one is the zombie one where you bash their head into their ribs

[severe ermine]

that looks painful

the most painful looking one if there you break the hell knights arm and punch its face

[sleek siren]

It’s hilarious tho

[sleek siren]

Doesn’t he do that for like almost every fodder demon

[severe ermine]

i think its the one for the soldier

[sleek siren]

My favourite is the mancubus being forced fed his bomb in his chest

Maybe it’ll change later as I progress through nightmare

[primal relic]

my favorite is the one where you slash the prowler's chest open and then pry his chest apart to reveal his heart

[sleek siren]

Oh that one sounds worthy

[sacred dirge]

[open basin]

[sleek siren]

Any tips for slayer gate 2 on nightmare it’s my first play through and no I will not turn down difficulty

Welp I’m screwed

Better try tmr to test my luck

[severe ermine]

i have never hated whiplash spectres more than ever

[fading oracle]

tysm

[burnt moss]

@jaunty vapor hey I misremembered what my SLOB issue is. NORMAL LOB has the “LOCKED” animation and the swivel animation simultaneously. But when I attempt SLOB, the “LOCKED” animation finishes before the swivel animation begins, creating significant delay between the first rocket and the first LOB. I believe this delay loses the automatic rate of fire carryover that enables SLOB.

[wraith sail]

Doom Eternal deaths: Just fuckin flops
Doom 2016 deaths: Goes from mars to another universe and gets beaten the shit out of by a hellknight

[azure oriole]

❔

💩

[daring moss]

Hear me out...
The should add some slipknot songs
To doom eternal or newer doom games.

[tame mango]

false…

[sleek siren]

LES FUCKING GO I BEAT THE 2ND SLAYER GATE AFTER MY MISERABLE DEFEAT WITH A LEDGE BUG

[azure oriole]

that just sounds like your timing is off. What you described is what happens if you mess up the "primer".
The swap from pb to rl must be without delay and the first rocket must fire immediately during rl bringup animation, after which you immediately let go of fire and hold lock on (holding both will not work)

[sleek siren]

I still don’t regret my first play through being nightmare

[azure oriole]

@burnt moss question: when you swap from pb to rl (when trying to slob), does the first rocket fire during bringup animation or only after?

You must begin locking on before the bringup animation finishes, too, so everything needs to be instantaneous.

A smooth transition of pb - rocket - lock on

[amber mauve]

can you use the first shotgun to kill demon that's in wheelchair? i tried in horde mode its work but idk if it work in campaigns too

[azure oriole]

Of course it works everywhere

Why wouldn't it

[fading oracle]

nvm its not working, I only got the slayer club stuff but I keep doing the reconcile thing and I still don't get it

[amber mauve]

because i think in horde mode he die too easy than in campaigns mode

[azure oriole]

He does become weaker after his boss battle but I don't think horde affects him at all

[slow sigil]

Doom hunter? Why would you not be able to kill them with the combat shotgun

[azure oriole]

Max level is 12 500

It give you star tho

[tame mango]

hey

eternal with slipknot would be awful

hi

[azure oriole]

I know im two years late but, 3 days ago I bought eternal and I just beat the campaign, a friend of mine is gonna gift me both dlcs and holy crap what a game. wow.

[azure oriole]

Hell nah

Mario music with eternal would sound better

[tame mango]

fr

slipknot sucks

[digital tide]

Pov: inf ammo cheat is broken for crucible

Yeah it's broken

Idk

Are there any bug fixes channels?

real

[tame mango]

very real

[digital tide]

really real

[tame mango]

also how did you come up with the name periphery

[digital tide]

smort

[cyan frigate]

Glad you like it:)

[azure oriole]

now to replay it, get the unmaker, find every secret and collectible and drive myself beyond the point of insanity

Lol I found every collectible and got the unmaykr on my first play through

[slow sigil]

You literally didnt though

Only level 250 right

Nowhere near max level

It's a bit more then 8 times
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/680650470271877132/857745996746719252/image0.webp

You dont have to

Getting to actual max level is such a fucking timewaste so

Wdym so what

Just a "so" at the end of a sentence

Doomlevel literally does nothing, hell you only have to change 1 number in the code to change your level

[wraith sail]

Trying Arc Complex master level on hmp to warm up a little cause I don't wanna instantly hop on UV or Nightmare

[azure oriole]

no, level 12 500 is max level like I said. 250 levels per star, 8 stars a tier, 6 tiers + the first and last level up to 250 = 8 x 6 x 250 + 2 x 250 = 12 500 levels

even if you'd take only 5 min per level up that's still 1040+ hours

[wraith sail]

Going good with master level so far

[azure oriole]

I got too much addicted to a Christian game

we all did

[azure oriole]

but I don't mean doom eternal

[wraith sail]

Ultrakill

[azure oriole]

doom 3 better yeah

Recently I got tainted judas
I'm proud of myself

[wraith sail]

Ultrakill?

Also is Arc complex the easiest master level due to the turret skip?

I shall never ask questions in this server again

[valid wren]

Can you be a normal being and wait for answers instead of giving up in the first 10 minutes

Do you expect to get answers immediately? where are we?

in a active server? no hell no

[wraith sail]

Bro look at the reactions

[slow sigil]

Well tbf i think there id a major skip for every ML, but even without that yeah it's the eaisest

[valid wren]

Its one person, whats wrong

[wraith sail]

It's two

[valid wren]

They probably dont know how to answer

I dont see it being wrong or harmful

[strange gale]

every level has a way to skip either a majority or the entirety of em

turret skip is just a partial skip so in this context, arc ml is not the easiest one

[azure oriole]

arc is the easiest ml even without skips

but faik other ml's have more substantial skips

[thorny harness]

I stop playing doom eternal for like one week. I’ve been playing ultrakill this week and now im back on doom eternal but idk why i suck so bad now

In one week bruh

I’ve been playing a faster fps so now doom eternal feels slow and i suck when i feel slow

I wanted to get back into doom and I'm physically unable to kill anything because I'm just so used to going fast and flying around everywhere.

[thorny harness]

No not really

[azure oriole]

its a fast game u just dont know how to play

meathook swing too

[thorny harness]

I was kinda good i played on nightmare but like i didn't play for a week because i just buy ultrakill and now im really bad cuz i feel like doom is too slow. Ultrakill is way faster than doom eternal and yeah i kinda sucks right now. Maybe if i play an hour or two i will get my skills back idk

[thorny harness]

Ik how to play i've played doom for a long time bruh

Lol i've only played like 60-70 hours

and yeah after 20 hours of ultrakill i feel like doom is slow

I think in like 3-4 h i can get used to playing doom again

Ik all of this, it's just that ultrakill is way faster than doom

I have to play more doom eternal and get my skills back

Doom feels slow, it's not really a skill issue it's a feeling

[azure oriole]

60 hours isnt alot

[strange gale]

failing to live in a slower game... interesting

[thorny harness]

It's a feeling

[azure oriole]

whats a fast game to u?

[thorny harness]

The speed of everything

The gameplay of ultrakill is way faster and the movements too

Im just gonna practice and i hope ill get my feelings of doom eternal back

[azure oriole]

they are similar in speed, only difference is u can get insanely high on ultrakill

[thorny harness]

Not really, everything is way faster

[azure oriole]

https://youtu.be/4kt8lOXs-2k?t=1795

[thorny harness]

I really like doom and normally im not that bad but yeah 1 week without touching the game isn't a great idea

[azure oriole]

is this slow to u?

[thorny harness]

It's a feeling

i also lag a lot idk why

Well time to rip and tear again

i should be okay after 2-3h of doom

Thank you guys for responding to me

[azure oriole]

is it me or are demons less aggressive when ur at 1 hp or microwave beaming a spirit

hold fire button and spam the weapon's bind and punch, u can time it but its easier to just spam it

pb is an exception tho

and with stickies u gotta time the punch and fire button without the weapon bind after doing a pb shot

3 keys, hold fire button and spam punch and weapon bind button

All Doom games are good.

But Eternal's lore is awesome yeah.

watch this https://youtu.be/ByPw_r5uXZc

No, Doom 3 is fucking awesome.

[patent stream]

Is that they think it’s the only one that matters

[azure oriole]

Doom 3 is great, and even does some cool shit better than Eternal

[valid wren]

Gus we need to capture walter white

[azure oriole]

Both, though I prefer the original.

[flint flame]

Mr. Fring, if you could excuse the interruption for just a moment, I think doom 3 goes hard

[valid wren]

His brother in law will caught us

[patent stream]

Gus with the year 1 takes

[flint flame]

Game journo icon of sin on earth shoot hole Mars

[patent stream]

Funni robot man

[flint flame]

No not really

Brother I’ve been playing for two years

Yeah when I was like 3 months in

It’s so god damn slow

“Ooga booga big damage guns” doesn’t really cut it

[valid wren]

Yo

wassup dawg

[flint flame]

Stun him first, then you can bfg

[azure oriole]

you can kill it with the bfg without stunning

[flint flame]

Oh right, opposite direction

[azure oriole]

yeah

[flint flame]

Cool, use it on a possessed marauder

[valid wren]

Fool, you forgot about the grenade, you little rata

What a reputation

Its your last change to learn how to kill the marauder gus

dude doesnt get the reference

Watch breaking bad i dont want to spoil it

[azure oriole]

I'm at season 4 It's gud

[flint flame]

Lol

[strange gale]

wow i love spending 3-4x longer than necessary on killing a single mara

[eager helm]

Guys how can I make the weapon selection r1 but to select weapons left stick?

[eager helm]

For ps4 controller

Someone please help it might help in better quick switching 🙏

[severe ermine]

anything is better than a stock controller

pro controllers are better because extra binds and those help

too bad we cant bind specific weapons to binds

[patent stream]

You can’t

[violet zealot]

I do not think you can bind controller inputs sadly.

[jaunty vapor]

You can. However, there's weird oddities with how weapon wheel selection works.

[violet zealot]

I don’t remember seeing any options to change bindings for controllers on any port

[jaunty vapor]

I remember testing this awhile ago, it's something like "binding L3 or R3 makes the respective stick select weapons"

But then with buttons, I believe left shoulder buttons = left stick, but with dpad it makes the right stick select, or face buttons make left stick select. Which vaguely makes sense but you'd think they'd let you just choose which stick works.

[jaunty vapor]

If you haven't played for awhile, they added the functionality in.

[violet zealot]

I have now just realized what chat this was, but I just played eternal today

I saw no option really

Probably missed it in the settings

[azure forum]

Settings, then controller settings, then move the pre set controllers until ypu see "Custom". You can modify it there.

[strange gale]

shit challenge, low fps forces input drops so there's no way for even a macro to do that consistently

that's really not a good challenge

it makes things less consistent for people who never drop inputs when the game's running at an acceptable level

and there's nothing you can do, besides raising the frame limit, to improve things

pcancel spam works perfectly fine at 30fps so this just makes combos less fun. you keep the braindead high dps options but everything that actually looks cool & feels good to input becomes borderline unusable

the real challenge is mhook getting gimped, but you can play just fine even without it. bboosts make up for a lot of the lost mobility

[burnt moss]

Well as long as I hold down fire, I don’t think it’s possible to have a timing issue swapping from PB to Rocket so my timing issue would be not pressing mod quick enough I guess?

[jaunty vapor]

Aside from "haha funny lul memes", is there a reason you keep wanting me to do low fps things that I've ALREADY done?

Cool. I'll do it for $1000.

[strange gale]

💰

how about you stop using ac & meathook for a week

[severe ermine]

meathook is mid

[strange gale]

that sure is a sentence you can form with words

[burnt moss]

@jaunty vapor hey I one-cycled the Arc marauder using your Arba/frag/lob combo, but I don’t understand why the rockets hurt him while his shield was up. Any idea?

[jaunty vapor]

At the very least Air Control.

[jaunty vapor]

Could be the shield is visually up but not actually blocking

He was saying to try something new if you're bored. Shake up the typical Doom Eternal formula

[burnt moss]

How is that possible?

[jaunty vapor]

"I'm bored"
Play the game
"Can't play the game"

[jaunty vapor]

Cuz Doom

[burnt moss]

I mean I wasn’t even fast about it

[jaunty vapor]

Was the Marauder visually stumbling/faltering as he got hit by the rockets, or did he look like the rockets were just hitting the shield as normal?

Cause if stumbling, then most likely it's just a visual glitch where the Marauder brings up the shield but gets staggered just before his invulnerability turns on (due to the frags faltering him), resulting in him not "putting away" the shield.

[burnt moss]

I could tell at least one of the two LOBS hit him

Whenever I try using frag to falter him, anything i shoot at him gets blocked.

Besides this instance

[jaunty vapor]

Well frags only falter him "after he's faltered" buuut... I dunno

Marauders are weird, and while I can do a lot of the combos and strategies against them, they make less and less sense each patch lol

[eager helm]

you know how you rotate and move the stick to select a weapon in the weapon wheel? I'm asking if you can make it so you open the weapon wheel with r1 and you rotate left stick to select weapons. You can't do this?

Sorry if I read that wrong ill just repeat myself to be sure lol

[severe ermine]

https://youtu.be/2mfjQqe6J-E

this mf is insane at the game

honestly looks like hes on pc

[jaunty vapor]

@eager helm a little explanation of how the game determines it. But long story short no, you can't specifically bind which stick selects.

[azure forum]

He's on PC at high Frame rate with a controller. He's good though.

Beating the game on controller is not issue, but it is not possible to get to the crazy stuff that you can do on PC using KM. The reason why, lack of buttons and most importantly, Weapon wheel.

[severe ermine]

yeah thats about it

[azure oriole]

https://youtu.be/AdpgabXKOzE

hes pretty gud too

[thorny harness]

Ok after about 1h i have my skills back, it feel much better now

[strange gale]

the highest level of execution in this game, regardless of input method, isn't anything crazy compared to high level dmc or most fighting games

yea on keeb you have more buttons to press and therefore more things to do, but just typing in a discord chat is more mechanically intensive than quickswapping etc

shit looks complicated but all that's going through the player's mind in any "le epic deternal combat montage" is "i'm gonna use this and this option here", they're not thinking about the buttons they're pressing cause they can do all of the le epic high level tech on command

[severe ermine]

wait does precision bolt have a different firing sound when not mastered

[strange gale]

mhm

[severe ermine]

it sounds a little bit like the awp

i prefer that sound

[cyan frigate]

Hey mr.bloodshot, sorry for the ping just had a quick question for you. What gives doom level xp? Not event xp. 👀 does finding secrets give more doom level xp? Or faster times? I know id has officially said the demonic corruption meter counts towards xp mainly but i figured since you’ve played this game a bunch like me you wouldve noticed something i didnt! Thanks in advance 😃

[urban sapphire]

im like 10 minutes into the dlc why is this so much harder 😭😭 how do i get better

[azure oriole]

by playing the game

[cyan frigate]

Yup just practice and experience i believe in you 😃

[azure oriole]

The swap timing itself matters, you must go from pb to rocket immediately (optimum timing).
Also yeah mod button timing matters too, but if the first rocket doesn't fire during bringup it already failed

[burnt moss]

But I thought base fire also worked? So as long as you’re firing at the time you swap, you’ve got that timing down

[burnt moss]

Do you have any advice on improving joystick aim? I’m still very bad after ditching gyro

[azure oriole]

turn on aim assist to like 0.20, try to use ur movement to help you aim

[sacred dirge]

The things I mentioned last week about aiming should help

[patent stream]

You won’t get better in a day. You need to practice

[severe ermine]

i think i turned off aim assist at the start of the game lmao

[azure oriole]

Ah, there's your problem: heavy cannon base fire works only if you fire a single bullet, then swap to rl.
If you keep firing it won't work, prolly because fire rate is too slow.
Chaingun and plasma rifle are opposite, you need to fire for a while before swapping (RoF stabilization)

[burnt moss]

My current strategy is to complete campaign on all difficulties with joysticks. Hopefully I will improve on each run so I’m capable of the next.

[burnt moss]

I’m hesitant to turn it down because it already feels a bit unforgiving. I have to be really close for it to correct me.

[burnt moss]

I mean I’ve tried both ways. But that’s good to know; pretty sure I heard all automatic base fire weapons work for SLOB

[azure oriole]

Yes they do, just hc single bullet only

Full auto works too, but mobile turret doesn't

I think base plasma is maybe the easiest if you wanna prime with base fire, fire plasma for a second or two, then (while holding fire) swap to rl

[burnt moss]

My challenge last night was I kept getting swarmed by demons while trying this

Maybe I will wait until I am a better aim to try again

[azure oriole]

Practice with the tyrant in the beginning of world spear ml

Just hammer the imps and you are alone with the tyrant basically

[burnt moss]

Haven’t played that in forever, good idea

[azure oriole]

Also set difficulty to easiest so the few zombies still left after the imps take about a year to get to you

Plus the tyrant fires one rocket a month, or so

[snow holly]

double the maraurder double the fun, double the archvile and i am coming to your house you should run

[sullen imp]

I wish they would double and triple the archvile count

[azure oriole]

Yo everyone. Im new. Wassup?

[sullen imp]

Hello new

[alpine plaza]

archvilles are so easy to kill once you locate them

[rotund ether]

Archviles are dangerous only when you don't know where they are

[sullen imp]

Just don't die lmao

[rotund ether]

Yes

[dim solar]

move slightly to the sides when trying to land a pb or ballista shot so you can get that micro-adjustment you need to land it my dude

don't rely solely on your right thumbstick to get your shots

[snow holly]

yea

woo i did it

that was really painful now i gotta do classic mode and un

[sullen imp]

What you playing boy?

[azure forum]

I personally would start with default settings. Whatever the vertical and horizontal sensitivity is set to. The reason being that most of these players (including me) suggesting to set it to 100 and so, have been playing the game for a lot of hours. Start from scratch and start adjusting from there. If it feels too slow, increase it by values of 10-15. I think that the only value I truly agree with is with a vertical sensitivity of 50. Once you start getting into faster movement you will want to increase your settings. On the weapon wheel, at 60fps I found 100-120 ms to be the sweet spot. On 30fps Switch, I swear I find it inconsistent and I use it at 150ms.

[alpine plaza]

i advice turning it up gradually

i turned it up by 2 every time i felt like it

i think my horizontal is 50 and vertical 42

[sacred dirge]

Yikes 100? I mean sure that's great for some. But I guess my large thumbs don't work to well for that. I'm able to move sticks with less effort. I'm around 80 75 or 80 80

[alpine plaza]

you need to have really good thumbs to be able to control the camera with 100 sensitivity

[burnt moss]

One thing to note is I’m not trying to optimize my play for Switch. I’m trying to make the game playable without gyro so I can enjoy Xbox when I get it.

[burnt moss]

I actually have reverted to default and it feels decent, but I can only put the reticle in the ballpark area of my target. I need help quickly honing in from there.

[burnt moss]

Can’t do a 180 midair very easily with that low of sensitivity

[alpine plaza]

yea tag has made me notice i need more sensitivity

[azure forum]

Takes time to get used to. I even had to adjust my settings when I started playing on switch. Starting from default is a good start. Do small increments from there until you find the most optimal thing. Don't disable aim assist and the other aim setting just yet. Try to get used to the movement first. The thing is better to Stat slow than going fast right away as it will completely throw you off. I personally after all this time still haven't touched my smoothness value at all.

[burnt moss]

How do I tell whether it’s the setting or my lack of practice that is causing my inaccuracy?

[uncut junco]

Does anyone wanna do the weapon expert trophy in a private match on ps?

[sacred dirge]

I feel alot of people do it just to say they have it maxed rather than it being a value that would actually work for them. I think it's better to play around and use a value that works personally for you

[azure forum]

That's a good question. I wish I could answer it 😅 I guess if ypu don't hit a thing ever, then maybe decrease your sensitivity settings until you actually do it.

[patent stream]

Both

You should instantly be able to tell if your sensitivity is too high or low

[azure forum]

I think k default settings are pretty good to start with though. They did a pretty good job with that

Also, it is hard to truly miss hits. Like most hit boxes are relatively big

[patent stream]

If you are SUEPR off. It’s certainly too high sens

[azure forum]

For switch I'm still kind adjusting mainly because aim is super important for battlemode - hitting good demon players is tough

[patent stream]

Just spam lock on XD

[azure forum]

It works against most players I agree, but I know some rev players that are extremely good at dodging them. Also, lock on is slow in battlemode so you have time to move and dodge.

[rotund ether]

Honestly Lock-On is mediocre in BM. It's good against new players, but experienced players are a different story

[azure forum]

It also depends a lot on the arena. Like good luck hitting a lock on in Corrosion for example.

[burnt moss]

I’m currently finding it very difficult to hit weak points and occasionally I can’t get meathook to connect in time while in midair. I am also concerned about lowering horiz because I need to turn around quickly sometimes

[flint flame]

It gets hard countered by getting out of line of sight, which happens a lot

[rotund ether]

Personallly I don't have problem with sensitivity and aiming in Eternal. I only struggle against demon players in BM that have good movement

[azure forum]

Most demons have outs to a lock on as well in a big arena like tundra. PE has shield, DK has the orb, archie the wall. Rev is dodgy as heck. Maybe manc and marauder but marauder is extremely agile and Manc has smoke bomb

[rotund ether]

Using Lock On on Mancubi is just not worth it. I used Lock On only on Marauders really

[patent stream]

Adjust look acceleration

[azure forum]

Right. Once again, in main game, most demons aren't very agile, and hit boxes are big. Ypu just need to get used to the small adjustments.

[patent stream]

Acceleration is what affects very quick turning

[azure forum]

I have always kept my smoothness to 90 which I'm pretty sure is the default value. Game feels "smooth" like that

[patent stream]

Smooth and acceleration should both be adjusted

[dreamy lion]

funni chat

[patent stream]

Do tell. What do you find humorous about the chat?

[azure forum]

Yep, I don't disagree. I think at the end finding the most optimal values comes from personal testing.

[dreamy lion]

MY SETTINGS ARE BETTER.
NO MINE ARE.
NO, I HAVE THE BEST SETTINGS.

[burnt moss]

You misunderstand

[patent stream]

I don’t find the humor in that. And it’s discussing settings with someone who is trying to get used to a controller without gyro

[azure forum]

I don't think we have said not even once the word "better".

[dreamy lion]

Well

[burnt moss]

They are giving me advice in how to be better at aiming with joystick because I’m planning on switching from Switch to Xbox, so I’ll be losing gyro aiming.

[dreamy lion]

I feel attacked 😵‍💫

[azure forum]

We are just sharing ideas. Nobody is saying this is better or that is better. I think ypu are misunderstanding the what you called "funny" conversation.

[patent stream]

Question volden. You are trying to adjust for a controller right? Not joycons

[burnt moss]

Imagine if in real life you walked into a room and laughed at someone’s conversation. This is why you feel attacked.

[burnt moss]

Correct. I won’t have Joycons when I get the Xbox

So those settings won’t be available to help me either

[patent stream]

Ok try these settings. Obviously you might need to adjust them but it’s what I use

40 horizontal
32 vertical
80 smoothing

[burnt moss]

Isn’t acceleration joycon specific?

[patent stream]

Atcually I was just looking for this and couldn’t find it anymore

So I might be thinking of a different game

[azure forum]

Those joystick precision settings always throw me off. They get either very sensitive or super slow.

[burnt moss]

When I messed around with smoothing it felt like it’s just a delay

[patent stream]

Trust me try the settings I have, they allow for closer precision with fast turn around

[burnt moss]

I mean I’ll try it, but that sensitivity looks way too low to do a 180 turn midair

[patent stream]

Lemme see if I can set up a quick video

[snow holly]

why does hugo martin look like dave grohl

[burnt moss]

Because I do believe a lower horiz will help with small adjustments; I keep over-shooting the target

[azure forum]

Playing on Xbox or PS at 120FPS 1080p is probably really nice

[patent stream]

Nope recording didn’t work

Its plenty adequate however

Eternal isnt a game where your 180 needs to be done in a blink of an eye. Half a second or less turn is plenty fast

Ive tried mapping some weapons to buttons and while its super good my muscle memory keeps throwing me against the wall

[azure forum]

It takes time. I only have mapped Ballista and SSG to easy accessible buttons. Chaingun to Dpad which I don't use often and Weapon wheel of 4 which is extremely helpful

No more accidental BFG shots to zombies 😁

[patent stream]

3 dpad buttons are weapons now and my left stick

I sacrificed the ability to use crucible ( bad anyways) mission info. And swapping grenades

How to adjust wheel size

[azure forum]

I've only kept the Crucible because of the hammer. Otherwise, yeah, it is useless. I wish you could put it in the weapon wheel tough. That would be nice

[patent stream]

How do u remove weapons from wheel

[azure forum]

Go to the weapons menu while playing, and then I think R3 or X opens the weapon wheel menu. From there you can adjust the weapon wheel size from 8 to either 6 or 4

Move the selector to the weapon spot and select a different weapon if you want to change it.

[patent stream]

Oh this is nice

Thx

[flint flame]

[azure oriole]

[burnt moss]

You don’t swap grenades???

[sacred dirge]

And it behavior being like a actual weapon

[patent stream]

I used to

I sacrificed it for the weapon swaps

Not that I know how to adjust the wheel I might go back

[azure forum]

There are two things I would love to see that will never happen. Add Crucible to Weapon wheel and being able to modify Weapon wheel size and weapons in battlemode. It would have been nice to have those two things.

[patent stream]

Nah game is done

Maybe a pc mod

[azure forum]

I'm aware but we can always dream. Also, I will never understand why there is a "grenade switch" button as opposed to just using 1 for ice 1 for frag. Maybe they were thinking about using a third grenade type from 2016

[slow sigil]

Crucible on weapon wheel would be very confusing considering how late you get it and it's only on base game, let alone it doesnt make sense with hammer

[azure forum]

No, I don't mean by default. By default have it in its own button, but you know how ypu can assign weapons to the spots in the weapon wheel, just show it in there as an option.

[burnt moss]

I want crucible to work like chainsaw

[sleek siren]

They’re completely different tho

[still palm]

What's better to hot swap with on the combat shotgun

[patent stream]

Hugo said it was to get people to make a conscious decision about what grenade to use when

[slow sigil]

Shouldve made it an option you can toggle off

[patent stream]

Personally I find that a pretty dumb reason since.

Clicking a specific button would still be a conscious decision

[slow sigil]

Cause it's stupid

[patent stream]

On consoles it makes sense cuz lack of buttons with controller

On pc eh no real excuse

[jaunty vapor]

I imagine Flame Belch was a 3rd grenade in dev, probably got changed at some point, and the code for "swap nades" was already in so "eh, who'd notice or care"

[azure forum]

Or add a third grenade option. That would have been nice. I'd love to see the shipon again

[patent stream]

Nuke grenade

[slow sigil]

How though
It's literally still 2 butons rofl

[patent stream]

HA you are right XDDDD

[azure forum]

I'd argue that on console is where it doesn't make sense the most

[patent stream]

The one to swap and the one to fire would still just be 1 grenade per button

Nvm no excuse it’s just stupid then

[azure forum]

But also Hugo's explanation sounds like an explanation when a dad doesn't want to buy a candy at the store.

[jaunty vapor]

The only thing I could say... Maybe the swap grenade button was out of the way so they didn't want players needing to do weird controller layouts just to use the second nade?

Still a flimsy excuse but eh

[azure forum]

Make something up. They'll forget about it

[patent stream]

Eh but they allowed fully custom layouts. So it’s not up to them how we set up the controller as is

[sleek siren]

For console I would of just liked both of the grenades to be a separate button instead of a switch for one of them

[still palm]

I use both, rarely though. I try use them more often and in the right conditions

[patent stream]

We cannot allow weapon binds on controller

3 updates later “ hey look weapon binds for controller”

[jaunty vapor]

Tbf that wasn't the case for what, 2 years? Year and a half?

[still palm]

same bro

[azure forum]

I remember that the HUD in eternal looked just like 2016s when they showed it the first time. I really think there was a third grenade option or they thought "maybe we can add a third later in game"

[sleek siren]

Plus I hated mod switch being on the d pad so much I moved it to left joy con press lmao

[azure forum]

Imagine If the slayer gate keys would have unlocked a good grenade type, but instead we got nothing for battling the slayer gates

[patent stream]

The generic custom layout was at launch

Unless you mean the weapon binding layout which they said wouldn’t work and then added anyways 2 years later then yes

[jaunty vapor]

Oh maybe that was it

[slow sigil]

I think it's more a design remnant from when they had mulitple nades probably

[patent stream]

Unmaykr

[slow sigil]

Yeah, nothing

[patent stream]

Personally I still like the unmaykr. I like how it still feels like a power weapon without being as broken as bfg

[jaunty vapor]

But guys it's so good, it only takes 100 shots to break an armored Barons armor! 🙃

[patent stream]

Why you trying to break an armored baron armor instead of hitting weapon point👀 you have to follow the enemy design for the best experience

[rotund ether]

Ngl, I forgot that Unmaykr is a thing in Eternal, because I never use it

[azure forum]

And even then, why the heck do we need a button to toggle the unmayker!? Why!?

[jaunty vapor]

I'll follow my OWN enemy design. With blackjack! And hookers!

[azure oriole]

I love traffic light enemies! I love them so much!!!!

[patent stream]

Vroom vroom

[dreamy mural]

Beep beep

[still palm]

bfg = get out of jail free card

[alpine plaza]

very useful in tag

[slow sigil]

Hahahaha no

Not that much more then normal

[rotund ether]

BFG is still better in TAG

[patent stream]

Bfg too goood

Remove bfg,, replace with lfg

[azure oriole]

Long Fucking Gun?

[patent stream]

Giant handheld railgun

[slow sigil]

Stupidest acronym ever

[azure forum]

But Mayo taught me to use unmaykr, ice bomb FA combo instead of BFG

[jaunty vapor]

Would you like
"Ok damage against 1 enemy"
Or
"Ok damage against one enemy + clearing the entire arena + stunning any enemy that won't die to it"

Hmmm

[median parrot]

[rotund ether]

Replace BFG with SFG

Small.Fucking.Gun

[still palm]

what if I said neither

[jaunty vapor]

Unmaykr FA quick swaps something something playstyle

[jaunty vapor]

Absolute unit

[median parrot]

So what dose bbc mean

[still palm]

British Broadcasting Corporation

[sleek siren]

I loved the bfg in 2016 tho I only used it when the game decided to go crazy with heavies like seriously some of the areas tho went crazy

[dreamy mural]

Mf beat me to it

[median parrot]

Oh I thought it meant big black hog riders

[dreamy mural]

[median parrot]

[dreamy mural]

[rotund ether]

[azure forum]

The BFG is very powerful, but it kinda becomes too OP when there's a rune that allows you to abuse it

[median parrot]

[haughty gorge]

If you use cheats you do still get achievements?

[dreamy mural]

[median parrot]

[dreamy mural]

Please

No more

[sleek siren]

Luckily I don’t abuse the living hell out of it I didn’t even use that rune because it was nightmare and I kinda suck

[azure oriole]

U can use cheats and get achievements as far as I know

or just use console and click kill ai a lot

[rotund ether]

Yes

[haughty gorge]

thanks for the info

[jaunty vapor]

Also weapon wheel BFG if you wanna really get nutty

Not that I would ever use a glitch in a video game

[dreamy mural]

[rotund ether]

Because frog

[tame mango]

bruh

[patent stream]

Acronym still has more potential than full auto

[azure forum]

On the cheats for achievements, isn't there an achievement that actually requires to use a cheat code?

[rotund ether]

Yeah there is one

[dreamy mural]

Master Of Fasting
Complete A Mission With Only The Famine Mode Cheat On

[timid plank]

I’ve been stuck on this one fight in doom hunter base for hours lol

[azure oriole]

The Doom Hunter fight?

For beginners, just shoot Plasma Rifle to him until his shield is down and spam Lock on Rockets. If you ran out of ammo then chainsaw.

[wraith sail]

I beat Arc Complex master level on nightmare without dying

[azure oriole]

Though, I don't know which combat encounter you're stuck on, the boss fight or what

[azure oriole]

Cool.

[rotund ether]

I would honestly target his sled instead of the shield

[wraith sail]

Blood punch sled

[azure oriole]

For beginners as I said, maybe they focus more on the shield rather than the sled or idk

I focused on the shield before since I feel it's easier.

[strange gale]

shooting the shield isn't even good as a beginner tactic

[azure forum]

Easiest thing as a beginner, use micromissiles from far away. It bypasses the sled shield.

[wraith sail]

They prolly read the tips tho

[severe ermine]

oh, i just found the problem with binding weapons on controller

lack of controls

only ls is n/a

[azure forum]

You can bind a max of 3 weapons without sacrificing key actions in a controller

That also includes using a 4WW size

[timid plank]

No no, it’s a group fight

[severe ermine]

i binded hc, ssg, and ballista to the dpad binds

[timid plank]

I can’t send a picture here so i don’t know how to explain where it is

[azure oriole]

Well, just hope they can Grenade + Blood Punch + SSG + PB Combo on Doom Hunter, Ice bomb if you want.

[severe ermine]

worst idea, life ruined

[timid plank]

It’s mainly cause I suck at fighting those pinkies

[rotund ether]

You kinda waste your Plasma ammo by targetting the shield. I always targetted the sled, even during my first playthrough of Eternal and ended with no deaths

[azure oriole]

The literal start?

[severe ermine]

jump over or dash the pinkies

also you can oneshot them anywhere with blood punch

[strange gale]

at that point in the game you have two options that deal damage through the shield, stickies and micromissiles. don't be a smartass.

[azure oriole]

Sure

[severe ermine]

is the whiplash the only female demon in the game?

[timid plank]

Well at the very start you have a bunch of demons but not a lot, I killed those easily, then I did some performing and got to this giant gate

[strange gale]

MMs are unironically good there, in the context of beginner play.

[timid plank]

Inside the giant gate there’s tons of enemies

[wraith sail]

Maybe?

[azure oriole]

The giant gate huh

Hmmmm

[severe ermine]

oh wait

@timid plank is it the one big arena where revenants spawn

[wraith sail]

Spirit?

[rotund ether]

Blood Punch them, freeze them, bait their charge

[azure oriole]

Yeah, is it this one?

[timid plank]

Revenants, pinkies, mancubus, you name it lol

[wraith sail]

I think its the one where the pinky is introduced?

[rotund ether]

From what we know: Yes

[timid plank]

Yeah that’s it

[azure oriole]

Okay, well just Lock on Burst the heavies.

[wraith sail]

Yeah the very first arena of Doom hunter base

[severe ermine]

try and glory kill every mf you see to get your blood punch up

also shooting their back does massive dmg

[timid plank]

So blood punch one shots the pinky?

[azure forum]

On the pinkies, ice bomb them and then get behind them and use super shotgun on the back/tail. You can run around until it recharges again to kill a second pinky if needed.

[azure oriole]

Yeah.

[severe ermine]

no matter what, yes it does

[azure forum]

Or Blood Punch if ypu can Glory Kill some demons easily

[timid plank]

Didn’t know that. I know that I can super shotgun their back, but blood punch is good to know cause I’m always bad at timing the dash on them, or I get Merced by others while I’m waiting for them to come at me

[severe ermine]

i'd just keep your distance keep using those jumppads

[rotund mural]

Hey

[timid plank]

Oh also, what’s the best strategies for hell knights?

[azure forum]

Lock on burst. Insta kill

[timid plank]

Damn that’s the one mod I didn’t unlock lol

[severe ermine]

lock ons kill hell knight too? thought it was only the dread knight

[rotund mural]

Is the Final Meat Hook Upgrade Worth it?

[wraith sail]

Ssg + Pb/ballista

[severe ermine]

yes good for farming armor

[azure oriole]

Really worth it.

[azure forum]

Yes, it is one of the best 3 upgrades in the game.

[jaunty vapor]

It's pretty much considered the best mastery.

[wraith sail]

Chaingun shield

[rotund mural]

What’s the other 2 best Mastery’s?

[severe ermine]

why would you use chaingun shield for the knights

[azure forum]

Shield mod and Lock on burst imo

[severe ermine]

just falter them using mobile turret

[rotund mural]

Should I use the Super Shotgun for the Marauder?

[severe ermine]

ssg + ballista

basically repeat that everytime his eyes flash

[wraith sail]

Whats faster and funnier to play with when fighting

[jaunty vapor]

Energy Shield is the best weapon mod, doesn't even need upgrades or mastery.

Lock on, the mastery is useless casually but it has some weird properties that inherently makes lock on better.

[rotund mural]

Ice Bomb for Pinkies

[severe ermine]

what does the mastery do

[empty girder]

does anyone have tips for a ultra nightmare run? I might want to start doing it

[severe ermine]

i forgot it had one

[rotund mural]

Survive

[wraith sail]

Stay very far away from the demons, mostly heavies or shotgunners

[jaunty vapor]

Lock on mastery is "you can lock on to a second target". It's very slow to actually get a second target, however it lets you retarget the SAME enemy quicker

Along with a few other quirks here and there

[severe ermine]

i never use dual lock ons at all

[empty girder]

damn I wish

[sacred dirge]

Played nightmare at all?

[empty girder]

once

[burnt moss]

Doesn’t even make sense on controller. Either way grenade takes up 2 buttons. One for launch, one for swap, currently. It could just as easily be one for grenade, one for ice.

[azure oriole]

Practice, learn the best way to kill every demon, learn which upgrades/mod to get, etc.

[severe ermine]

remote det is useful for faltering only right

[dreamy mural]

Dont die lmao

[sacred dirge]

How many deaths

[rotund mural]

I’ve always hated Cyber Mancubuses

[azure oriole]

Yeah

[jaunty vapor]

Pretty much

[rotund ether]

Probably the best mastery in the game

[empty girder]

a normal 5 - 7

[severe ermine]

damn zero master has some good tips to defeat demons

[rotund mural]

Super Shotgun is OP

Too bad you can’t upgrade the BFG9000

[empty girder]

carcass is the worse

[sacred dirge]

Not bad for a first attempt. I'd do another nightmare and try to narrow it to 1 or 3. Then I'd say you're ready. Normally I like to practice a no death nightmare first

[azure oriole]

The BFG9000 is already OP anyways

[severe ermine]

they are just a pain in the ass to deal with

i like their glory kills though

[azure oriole]

He grins

[severe ermine]

knocking them out has to be the best one out of all them

[rotund mural]

It’s good for Last Phase of Icon of Sin

[jaunty vapor]

But yeah top 3 masteries are pretty much SSG, Dblade, and... I dunno. I guess Sticky Bombs or Arbalest maybe?

Technically PB mastery is... Fine? It's more PB itself being good than the mastery.

[rotund mural]

Destroy the flesh to kill the Titan

[burnt moss]

I mean I want pressing the crucible button to immediately use the crucible on the demon.

[jaunty vapor]

Really none of the masteries are as good as SSG or Dblades.

[severe ermine]

pb mastery is the headshot blast right

[azure forum]

Do PB upgrades even do anything?

[rotund mural]

Also what’s more Powerful The Sentinal Hammer or The Crucible?

[twilit dune]

I noticed the BFG is a bad weapon to use against Tyrant

[severe ermine]

they decrease reload speed and the other one i dunno

[jaunty vapor]

You can move faster while scoped

PB cooldown is faster

So to answer your question no, it does nothing XD

[severe ermine]

ssg ballista pb and rocketsp

[twilit dune]

BFG is best to use it against Doom Hunter

[azure oriole]

True.

[rotund mural]

What Demons should I kill with the Crucible?

[jaunty vapor]

Check the damage doc pinned in this discord. It does good IMPACT damage, but the tendril damage is reduced against Super Heavies

[azure oriole]

Any Super Heavies

[severe ermine]

the doom hunter is quite the easiest super heavy demon once off its sled

[rotund mural]

Mancubus

[azure oriole]

Take examples of Barons, Tyrants, or whatever

[rotund ether]

Tyrants, Barons, Archies

[twilit dune]

Idk man I feel like the bfg in Eternal is a lot weaker than 2016

[empty girder]

does anybody like full auto on combat? because the more I've been using it the better I have gotten with it

[wraith sail]

ARCHVILE AND TYRANT.

[azure oriole]

Just lock on burst them lol

[severe ermine]

archvile only requires 2x3 rockets

[twilit dune]

Thanks for the damage values

[wraith sail]

Archvile is worth the crucible charge dude

[twilit dune]

I will certainly study that

[azure oriole]

Add PB, it's not enough.

[patent stream]

Someone already said this

[rotund mural]

Khan Maykr is so annoying

[burnt moss]

There’s a hint about bloodpunch that tells you Pinkies are weak to it. I don’t think that information is included in the Pinky description. It’s dumb.

[wraith sail]

If you dont have the crucible and you meet the archvile,

Ice bomb + chaingun shield + blood punch

Its my combo so idk

[timid plank]

Thanks a lot guys, finally got past that fight

[burnt moss]

Still catching up sry lol

[rotund mural]

Blood Punch is so useful when upgraded

[severe ermine]

it isnt?

[burnt moss]

I was touching pavement

[rotund ether]

Or: Ice Bomb+ 2x Lock-On

[severe ermine]

i think ice bomb works too mb

[rotund mural]

I fully upgraded my Ice Bomb

[rotund ether]

Good

[azure oriole]

If I remember correctly, not enough until you add PB or some Bullets to GK him.

[severe ermine]

2x3 lock ons insta kill (with ice bomb)

[burnt moss]

Get it yesterday

[azure oriole]

I might want to try it again

[rotund mural]

I also love the Multi Shot Upgrade for the Combat Shotgun

[rotund ether]

Yeah

[severe ermine]

i dont think ice bomb is required

[azure oriole]

Ah, you added Ice Bomb.

[severe ermine]

might have to double check again

[azure oriole]

I'll try

[rotund mural]

Imagine if Gladiators were more often to fight instead of a Boss?

[azure oriole]

I've just finished bullying Icon of Sin.

[severe ermine]

it wouldnt work really

the shield and the phases

[azure forum]

Right, but those do make a difference in quickswapping PB?

[rotund mural]

Yeah The Gladiators are irritating

[rotund mural]

Remove the Shield and just have the Maces

[severe ermine]

marauder works well because there are no phases

[azure oriole]

Gimme time to reach the Archvile arena in TN.

[severe ermine]

maybe it could work like that

[jaunty vapor]

Nope

[strange gale]

the movement speed upgrade makes a marginal difference in the air, you might miss a ledge mantle by just a couple inches if you lose a bunch of speed to unupgraded pb

[azure oriole]

Without the Ice Bomb it's not enough.

[severe ermine]

figured because i always use ice bomb with it

[azure oriole]

But at least you can shoot few bullets to put him on GK state, which is a good strategy for Ressurect no more challange.

[rotund mural]

Gladiators are a challenge to fight and imagine if they were combined with Tyrants or Marauders

[severe ermine]

honestly marauders arent that bad

i had to fight in a triple marauder arena on the taras nabad ML

[patent stream]

Coulda been so much better

[azure oriole]

Man, that amount of distraction.

[rotund mural]

Or Combine them with Doom Hunters

[azure oriole]

Have you guys ever tried spawn killing Marauder?

[crimson yarrow]

I have a question

[severe ermine]

that would require a one cycle i think

can you one cycle the marauder with the unmaykr?

[azure oriole]

The spawn killing Marauder tactic?

[severe ermine]

actually nvm

[crimson yarrow]

If 2016 is mindless because the super shotgun is OP but Eternal is "the fun zone" then what about the OPness of extra lives and chaingun shield?

[azure oriole]

Lemme try

[severe ermine]

a cycle needs for him to flash his eyes green

[crimson yarrow]

Arguably lock-on also

[severe ermine]

wdym

[rotund ether]

With Shield? I think that got fixed

[severe ermine]

i really wish the ripatorium was still accessible after the campaign

would make testing enemies much easier

[rotund dust]

Is there checkpoint while inside a level ?

[severe ermine]

yes

[azure oriole]

Yeah, but what about like throwing everything you got at Marauder after he finished spawning, ever tried it?

[sacred dirge]

Never heard anyone call 2016 mindless before.

[rotund dust]

Like how do I tell i reached one ?

[azure oriole]

Yeah, even in Ultra Nightmare

[severe ermine]

top right

[rotund dust]

What will appear ,

[severe ermine]

it'll say "checkpoint reached"

[azure oriole]

Usually at the end of combat encounters you can see it

[severe ermine]

i think a little sound plays too

[rotund dust]

Like between puzzle?

[crimson yarrow]

That's like what everyone who thinks Eternal is better than 2016 is saying

[rotund dust]

Aight

[rotund ether]

Yeah. I always try to one cycle him or shot explosives at his feet

[wraith sail]

Game Journalist

[azure oriole]

No, usually at the start of Combat Encounter or the end of it.

[rotund dust]

Thanks.

[crimson yarrow]

Are you calling me one, or?..

[severe ermine]

i think its below the demonic corruption meter

[azure oriole]

I love spawn killing Marauder.

[severe ermine]

what does demonic corruption even do

[sacred dirge]

They'll say the same thing about eternal when the sequel comes out. New doomers can be dumb

[azure oriole]

It's like a progress.

[severe ermine]

i thought it made demons get more demonic if thats even possible

[timid plank]

Doom 2016 was my first Doom game, and I really like the dark tone there, but I'm slowly growing into this one too

[severe ermine]

does stunning marauder with remote det or ballista to the feet still work

[jaunty vapor]

Most people understand that Air Control, Lock On, and EShield are about as oppressively op as Siege/SSG/Rockets were in 2016, along with the BFG refund rune and Rich get Richer. That said I think Eternal also has more high end tech that DOES require skill (even something like SLOBS makes LoB a little more interesting).

That said unless we throw modded content into the mix, both games have plenty of mechanics/strats that break the game balance

[rotund ether]

Not sure about Remote, but Ballista to the feet can stun

[jaunty vapor]

Which technically the game balance is still being broken, it's just modded content "takes that into account" so even that's not a "pass" so to speak.

[jaunty vapor]

Yes

[sacred dirge]

Rich get richer... only filthy people use that haha

[jaunty vapor]

Yeah... Only filthy people used that... Haha...

[azure oriole]

Well, you can falter Marauder with a Remote detonation for a while.

[sacred dirge]

If it's in the game use it. Honor is for the weak anyways. Nothing wrong with using op or something broken

[lofty charm]

hey guys, is there a way to restore an old save since i just lost 8+ hours of grinding for the unmaykr since I accidentally loaded my checkpoint in the fortress after being black screened from walking into the portal and thinking it was a glitch

[patent stream]

To be fair you could hold so much ammo as is rich get richer wasn’t truly needed

[azure oriole]

Maybe you can't, you gotta grind for it again

[jaunty vapor]

I used Mobile Turret a lot in 2016 so it was a very fun power fantasy using it with Rich get Richer

I never really looked into the overall balance of 2016 aside from the obvious "insta siege kills all"

I mostly just don't want the "magic" to be ruined by knowing the ins/outs. Would rather keep myself naive as much as possible

[lofty charm]

welp atleast i got the achievement for obtaining before, things went sideways

[patent stream]

Nightmare health and armor is atrocious to gain

Like what was normally a 35 hp pack is now like 5

Glory kill gives like 10 hp but aimbot imp removed 40 of your hp

[crimson yarrow]

I never used Siege because of the movement penalty

[sacred dirge]

Stun and heat blast combo

[patent stream]

All you had to do was hop before charging, by the time you landed siege would fire

[sacred dirge]

Basically melt a heavy

[sleek siren]

Exactly I’m only on mission 4 on nightmare and I already see how bad it’s getting

[patent stream]

2016 nightmare was horribly balanced

Didn’t stop me from replaying it hella times
But man it was bad

[rotund ether]

Imp's fireballs on Nightmare give me PTSD

[azure oriole]

Yeah you can, at least add one grenade, two if you're afraid.

[sacred dirge]

Just don't get hit bruh. But yeah looks like they leaned more into the traditional joke difficulty of dooms rather than something challenging. Although. Now I feel 2016 nightmare is the best mode. UV being way to easy

[sleek siren]

Imo 2016 was easy after mission 6 but stupid in the early levels (nightmare)

[azure forum]

Once you get Gauss cannon, difficulty goes down a ton.

[sacred dirge]

Definitely. For me after foundry you're gold

[strange gale]

what's dksms?

[azure forum]

Was there a movement penalty?

[sleek siren]

I probably have more deaths in foundry then all the late game levels combined lmao

[sacred dirge]

Just move slower

[timid plank]

Yo earlier I got the yellow power up for the first time and the face that pops up scared the hell out of me lmao like I yelled

[azure oriole]

Doom Slayer is angry

[sacred dirge]

I usually used it with stun for heavies but seige then a bolt would kill a manc for example

[azure oriole]

And his eyes is yellow

[sleek siren]

Actually you can’t move with seige unless you get mastery ofc

[sacred dirge]

You don't say ...

Again. I have a couple k hours. Don't have to remind me

[sleek siren]

I saw some confusion but I replied to the wrong person

[azure forum]

But you can just bypass the movement part of it though

[strange gale]

that's not even a great example, think about the two biggest detractors from the decisions you'd otherwise have to make: air control & meathook

[sacred dirge]

Bob mentioned that yeah

That's one way

[solar sky]

Hi everyone

[azure forum]

Shield, lock on, and SSG are op as heck. You can easily play without the first 2. The same cannot be said about the third.

[strange gale]

ELs are finite so you don't wanna waste em, and you don't use the shield everywhere

deternal is still braindead but not as overtly broken as rich get richer + alpha cycle into dksms -> repeat

[sleek siren]

Rich get richer is probably the most broken thing in all of doom

[strange gale]

scenario: you find yourself in a situation you want to leave

you just hook onto an enemy and fling yourself to the other end of the entire arena, then W key to the exact spot you want to go because obviously you've got air control equipped

without these two: now you have to consider generally staying more grounded because now you don't get away with shit ground movement, single dashing for optimal base movement speed and to always have 1 dash available, viable wavedash spots, whether a bboost from here can reach a safe ledge, using the gk teleport on cacos to restore dash in the air and reset your momentum if you're about to overshoot a ledge, using caco gks to set up punchboosts, air gking to gain height in general, whether you have an airstrafe available here that'll let you keep enough speed to reach your desired destination ETC

like it's pretty shortsighted to say "le shield le op" and not consider ac & mh at all

[lusty magnet]

I’ll just jump and then use that hammer to kill all of them, if it doesn’t kill everyone then I finish them off my with guns.

[strange gale]

missed the point

[wraith sail]

What happen

[burnt moss]

Argument about which OP parts of the game break it the most

[sleek siren]

Man wrote a whole essay on why ssg and air control make the game easier 🗿

@flint flame what do you mean question mark

[slow sigil]

Not exactly wrong though so

[sleek siren]

Still why tho

[alpine plaza]

favorite base game level music?

[azure oriole]

idk between sgn or main menu theme

[dim solar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aqk7x_w1H98

[alpine plaza]

yea i forgot to exclude that one

[dim solar]

pls dont ♻️ me

[alpine plaza]

excluding that one i think my favorite is nekravol

it has some goddamn heavy riffs

[dim solar]

after playing a lot of horde mode I actually came to like cultist base combat music a lot

[azure oriole]

So sick of doom music at this point

[alpine plaza]

yea that can happen if you only hear it in game

but if you pay close attention to some of the music you can really appreciate how good it is

[sleek siren]

My favourite is bfg division idk why

[craggy token]

doom 2016 theme

go dumb

[alpine plaza]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_XjMsYOFOI&ab_channel=burgertanker

this the one im talking about

[craggy token]

imagine him onna slipknot song

[sleek siren]

I mean it still plays in eternal

[dim solar]

I don't understand how people would get tired of something good

[strange gale]

an "essay"...

...that took me about 2 minutes to put together

[sleek siren]

Good for you

[strange gale]

god forbid anybody ever thinks about anything critically

you had and still have nothing to contribute, classic eternal chat

[sleek siren]

What are you going on about

[sacred dirge]

Passionate about a game he's mastered

[azure oriole]

It's mid

[severe ermine]

i dont know why air control is a rune

[azure oriole]

A: (posts, like, one and a half paragraphs)
B: Bro, that's like a WHOLE ESSAY, man... fuckin... why'd you type SO MUCH STUFF, man... haha... what an essay...

[severe ermine]

btw is faster gk a good rune or should i stick with:
air control
dazed and confused
equipment fiend

[sleek siren]

Bro it’s not that deep lmao chill out

Lol

Like damn I joke about it being an essay and people are acting like I committed a crime lmfao

[azure oriole]

Hello!

[sacred dirge]

Well we ve all been here a long time and you're new. Trying to call out one of the ogs won't end well

[sleek siren]

It’s wasn’t exactly a call out rather just a tiny joke that got taking seriously somehow?

[sacred dirge]

I wouldn't worry to much about it. Just some ball breaking

[sleek siren]

Welp anyways I now have the ballista

Idk how many missions are in the game but I think I’m atleast around half way of completing the game in nightmare

[last hamlet]

No way it impossible how u get the railgun

[sleek siren]

I get a railgun? I’m just about to start mission 5 so I don’t know where it shows up

[last hamlet]

You just said you got the railgun

[sleek siren]

“Ballista”

[last hamlet]

🤔 🤔

[last hamlet]

Yes railgun

[sleek siren]

Why is the ballista called railgun

[last hamlet]

Did you just ask why the railgun is called the railgun

[sleek siren]

I’m so confused

I’m getting trolled aren’t I

[last hamlet]

Its called the railgun because it jas two rails parallel to eachother

[sleek siren]

Isn’t that the chaingun I searched on images and all and I don’t see a railgun for eternal

Yeah im getting trolled

[azure oriole]

but balista is a railgun

[sleek siren]

I’m not so fond with weapons is it a railgun that’s called ballista cuz if so I feel dumb

Oh wait nvm I see now

[burnt moss]

I think you mean the Peargun

[azure oriole]

this meme is ded now

we overused it

[last hamlet]

No thats a weapon with a chain of bullets

tha railgun is a weapon that uses rails

[azure oriole]

this guy sure knows what hes talking about

[urban sapphire]

how to kill archville

[sleek siren]

My guy I was confused that’s all lol

[sleek siren]

I’m a wizard

[last hamlet]

U must be so good at the videos game

Is u are a master of doom???

[sleek siren]

Yes nightmare is for the best players in the world obviously

[last hamlet]

but has you are beaten master level for doom 2???🤔 🤔 only real masters can complete the challenge

[sleek siren]

Never played doom 2 sadly

Man I kinda want to switch to pc so I don’t have to rely on a wheel but it’s ok

[tame mango]

bruh

do you know the frog

the one that looks like the grinch

bruh so you are rodark

you

yes

[wraith sail]

I beaten Arc Complex master level on fucking nightmare without dying and yet I'm too much of a coward to play on UN

[pearl fox]

Man ultranightmare is insane

Is too fking hard

[wraith sail]

not even gonna try it

[pearl fox]

Lmao

Yeah

[wraith sail]

You sound like you're going to ask for proof

[pearl fox]

I beat the game in all difficulties

But never un ultra nightmare

[wraith sail]

thats nice

[pearl fox]

Yeah I love this game

[wraith sail]

Like if you're good enough you can make your own weapon combos and that makes it way better

[pearl fox]

True

But I’m ps5 player

I don’t have good skill yet

[wraith sail]

dam

[pearl fox]

Lmao

it's just time to get used to it

[sacred dirge]

The system doesn't have much to do with it. You personally need to get good

[pearl fox]

Yeah

I keep training

[burnt moss]

UNnecessary

[sacred dirge]

Nightmare is best

[flint flame]

“But I need to 100% Doom eternal”

[sacred dirge]

Un is just a for you thing or a flex. Nothing more

[sleek siren]

Idk if I have the patience

[severe ermine]

what does extra life mode do

[last hamlet]

I think the BFG 10Ks name shouldve been higher

there already was a BFG 10K, it was just a stronger BFG. Why cant this one be the BFG 100K

[quick jacinth]

I got a question abt the events.If the summer mega event is over can i still earn rewards toward a mega collection i earned during the event. (Example the hotdog mancubus)

[burnt moss]

You start the game with 3 lives. If you drop to 0 lives, game over

[wraith sail]

Ya'll think Phobos skin is the correct way to do a gold slayer skin

[severe ermine]

oh

is there a difficulty where if you die once in the campaign you have to restart the whole campaign

[sacred dirge]

Phobos is tight

[wraith sail]

Phobos or Gold Slayer

[azure oriole]

Gold slayer suggs!!

I've actually got a phobos figure, looks pretty good for how cheap it is

[burnt moss]

Ultra Nightmare

[severe ermine]

oh

[heavy ocean]

Yes if you have a collection and the event ends, you will continue to work towards the collection seperate from the event

Golden bounty lord is my fav.

And the immora slayer from last seasons battlemode is pretty ba

[timid plank]

Doom Hunter killed

Quick switching between ssg and rocket launcher ftw

[quick jacinth]

thank you sm

[heavy ocean]

Last I checked, or at least I freeze, dbl nade, double blood punch, pop a ssg then lock on rox to kill

Early in the game, freeze nade, bp and sentry turret rips the sled apart pretty quickly too.

But there's better. But a good lazy combo

[sleek siren]

Mobile turret or energy shield

[patent stream]

Turret cuz shield should never have happened

[sleek siren]

Is it that op

[flint flame]

It’s god mode basically

[patent stream]

In a game all about resource management dodging survivability.

You get momentary invincibility

So yes, it’s op

[azure oriole]

It's actually very very weak to be honest I'm not sure what the fuss is about

[sullen imp]

Hi any advice on managing anger after losing precious progress in my ultra nightmare run that prevents me from going out and murdering people with my bare fists

[patent stream]

Yeah. Don’t do ultranightmare

[sacred dirge]

Lol... bash

[sleek siren]

Both feel op tho bc I feel like turrent would be for taking out heavy’s fast and energy for big groups or clutching(well idk how much it deflects but if it’s a lot)

[sullen imp]

I Play UN exclusively now pretty much

[timid plank]

hey man i'm new to this whole thing, i'm learning as i'm going along

[sacred dirge]

I think he means if you don't enjoy it don't do it

[sullen imp]

I've lost count of how many times I've finished it

[sacred dirge]

Not don't do it at all

[sullen imp]

Never get bored tho

[patent stream]

Then that sounds like a u problem

Gets angry
Don’t do that
But I want to
🤷‍♂️

[sullen imp]

Addiction

[timid plank]

I'm new to FPS games in general, Doom 2016 was my first one and this one second, so I'm doing ultra violence

[sullen imp]

Go for it!

[timid plank]

I just learned what quick switching means and how to do it today, feels pretty good lol

[heavy ocean]

UV is fun. Nightmare just feels like how the game is supposed to be and UN is for the memory and twitch

[sullen imp]

UN is for fun or masochists

[timid plank]

if i ever do a second playthrough I'll do nightmare but ultra violence is perfect for my skill level right now

[sullen imp]

Nightmare changes things a bit

[heavy ocean]

Once you get the hang of movement and weapons Nightmare just feels better. The arenas force you into a good combat flow and its fun.

[timid plank]

oh yeah i usually play the hardest difficulty on most games i play but i felt it would be too rage inducing since im new to the genre (im more used to melee games like god of war, from software games, etc)

[sullen imp]

I would suggest mapping weapons to preferred keys for faster switching for your next playthrough

Difficulty settings on a fromsoft game? What are those!?

[timid plank]

i did that for 2016 game actually but I don't know which weapons i like more in this one yet, i've been using everything

[burnt moss]

Should I play Doom tonight? Or Mortal Kombat?

Oh actually I have to try Bob’s config

[timid plank]

except for the heavy gun (the one that's on number 2), i never use that one anymore, even the first gun has the sticky bomb for revenants and cacodemons

[sullen imp]

Doom

[sullen imp]

The heavy cannon? The thing that goes PEWEPWPEWPEWPEWPEW and has a funny scope and micro missiles?

[timid plank]

yeah that one, i use to use it but plasma does what it does but better (i've never used the micro missiles though, is that good?)

[burnt moss]

PB is important

I hate the elevator ride in MC

[timid plank]

I use sticky bombs for the same things I would use PB for, jump up, aim and shoot. PB's cooldown makes it less useful for me imo

[burnt moss]

The main value others are seeing with PB is that it’s faster to pull out so it makes a great mix-in for your combos. Much faster than Stickies

[timid plank]

i watched a video earlier and i just dont have their speed with the aiming and stuff, but i definitely see the value

[brittle quest]

PB doesn't have a global cooldown, you can swap to another weapon and swap back to reload the PB

[timid plank]

this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLYa2wozTzM

[timid plank]

oh yeah i didn't think of that, I'll try that next time

[burnt moss]

Do the other weapons have a global cooldown? Is that the difference?

[random vault]

hello floir cat

[dim solar]

hello floir cat

[random vault]

new pfp

[dim solar]

indeed, new pfp

do you know who it is?

[random vault]

no

[brittle quest]

No, the only weapon/mod I can think off the top of my head that follows global cooldown is Stickies, I don't think any other weapon does. Which is what primarily makes DE switching different from D16 switching; instead of following a single cycle of weapons, we can swap between the same two weapons with them reloading.

[dim solar]

sadge

[random vault]

i dont watch a ton of anime

[dim solar]

neither me tbh

but u should watch steins:gate

just saying

[random vault]

maybe

[timid plank]

I gotta practice quickscoping with PB, looks really fun

[dim solar]

it isn't

it never works
PB is garbage

use Full Auto instead

[random vault]

pb and j

[brittle quest]

Nothing compared to MM+Rockets

[dim solar]

now we're discussing the good stuff

[brittle quest]

Y'know when you meathook a demon, get a SSG blast; a remote det; a few full-auto shells and end with a microwave beam? That's the alpha cycle of DE😎

[burnt moss]

Why did I read that with the Ford Truck commercial soundtrack playing in my head?

[dim solar]

I'm gonna go with microwave beam first so I can finish my enemy with full auto and GET MY SHELLS BACK

[heavy ocean]

Just rapid MB, FA swapping. Thats what I'm talking about.

[severe ermine]

are majority guns in this game semi auto?

[burnt moss]

From a meta perspective yes

[burnt moss]

Actually I take that back. They’re all auto from a meta perspective

[severe ermine]

is it the quick switch that makes them "auto"?