classic-doom-maps-mods

[errant osprey]

i want to use the half life soundtrack badly

Alright, i removed the copyrighted music

The skybox is just a placeholder btw

and im new at making maps with gzdoom

[haughty flower]

Is there a way to remove the Warning from Dos when loading a custom wad?

[crisp dragon]

@haughty flowerwhy are you using dosbox?

[novel gorge]

There is no way and need to remove that warning, it’s just for show to let you know that you are not playing The Ultimate Doom

[desert junco]

I don't know if this is the right place for this but I'm planning on making a rougelike wad and I'd like advice on how id implement a weapon wheel like the one in ETG.

[haughty flower]

Hehe, because DOS is cool and retro

[haughty flower]

Thanks for the clarification

[agile shoal]

You can try searching for a midi version of that music in sites like freemidi.org

this way its not illegal afaik

[unkempt plaza]

my wad called rage against the machine that i have worked on is gone. yay...

[royal wave]

Woo! GHAG update! https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=72802&p=1196370#p1196370

[glacial skiff]

Vanilla's patch format is super cool when you're trying to squeeze as much as possible out of a few bytes

This is about 8K of texture data, to give an example (including an unseen 256x128 sky)

Flats obviously don't compress at all but that's a separate matter

[shadow trail]

question
is there like a way to use copyrighted music in your wad
without having to make one yourself for hours (or use the uncopyrighted music which doesnt sound good)

[glacial skiff]

If you get permission from the original copyright owner that's one thing, but 99/100 that's not going to happen

[snow hearth]

Video game music usually are also copyrighted, however most game developers dont mind use of their music

Ive seen a lot of wads use music from other games

[shadow trail]

yeah

i myself do it a lot
it also takes a lot of spaces of the wad
but yknow what i dont mind that
i like the music in my wad to sound good

[novel gorge]

Worst case scenario make or find a midi version of it

[shadow trail]

midis aint my thing tbh
it sounds nice for the most part
but i prefer the original music

[novel gorge]

but you play doom

[shadow trail]

i mean yeah obv
and i jammed to a lot of midis
but when it goes to making a wad atleast for me
i like to put most of the original musics except of midi ver of them
and hey i will put one or two midis for the sake of this being doom

[crystal perch]

what textures should I use for the floor and ceiling?

[gleaming crag]

hello! im having trouble installing brutal doom, and would appreciate help! if you can tell me via voice that would be even better, just let me know!

[crisp dragon]

um alright but a better place would just be in the brootal doom server

just install brutal doom, unzip it and drag it over gzdoom.exe

[gleaming crag]

ive done that before, all it does is open just doom 1 running with GZ

[crisp dragon]

@gleaming cragthen you should try ZDL or its forks

[gleaming crag]

alright, ill try that then

[shadow snow]

Doom Builder is discontinued, I suggest you to use Ultimate Doom Builder instead

[agile shoal]

I suggest you use DoomEd

[loud spruce]

Demaking Doom Eternal's first chapter in a limit-removing engine. (still wip)

It has been already remade previously, but that uses GZDoom and is meant to be played with some mod. This is going to be a Boom-compatible map.

[novel gorge]

Oh wow

[snow hearth]

I'd play that

[pulsar pike]

woah

[quick crag]

Looks great!

[upbeat path]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/631654163557908482/873026849045893120/ezgif.com-gif-maker6.gif

[pulsar pike]

That looks pretty cool

[loud spruce]

Hell on Earth demake screenshot no.2

[agile shoal]

It looks amazing. And being boom compatible is awesome

[quick crag]

noice

[pulsar pike]

Will you do the other chapters after this?

[loud spruce]

The plan is I’m going to do Exultia, and owing to limitations it will be released as its own .wad file, and have two chapters with the second one taking place at Hell.

[random matrix]

Is there a way to disable the "extra weapon slots" ability from the backpack from the Call of Doom: Black Warfare mod?

[fallen panther]

Today's mod combo is hell crusher, meat grinder monsters, and btsx episode 1

Also have a much more convenient way to snap screen shots Even while firing

[novel gorge]

Holy fuck what a shotgun

[fallen panther]

Oh yeah 6 barrels feels as good to fire as it looks 😁

[crisp dragon]

[novel gorge]

[crisp dragon]

doomguy would definitely like to speak to you about the whereabouts of that certain gun

[rugged gust]

Does anyone know how to load WADs on the STEAM version of the DOOM Unity port? Everyone online says to put them in "C:\Usersyour username\Saved Games\id Software\DOOM Classic\WADs" but there's no "DOOM Classsic" folder on my PC. Probably because I'm not using the Bethesda launcher version? I've tried making the folders, but that didn't work.

[novel gorge]

You need a Proper source port

[novel gorge]

You can’t load custom wads in Unity

[rugged gust]

This guy seemed to be able to: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/116635-thoughts-on-the-new-unity-port-update/

[novel gorge]

Might as well just use a source Port

[novel gorge]

And that’s sketchy Information, this thread is from 2020 and As far as I know you still can’t l load custom wads in unity

So it’s not worth the Trouble there are Plenty f ther ports

[rugged gust]

This guy shows the custom WADs appearing in the add-ons list, it looks pretty legit to me: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/116635-thoughts-on-the-new-unity-port-update/?page=2

[novel gorge]

Keyboard is giving me truve l

[novel gorge]

Hmm

Well if you can’t figure it out it’s not worth the trubel anyway

Trust me yu have much better Options elsewhere

Sorry for bad selling my keyboard is not working

[fair temple]

no worries

[rugged gust]

These patch notes say you can use custom WADs on PC: https://bethesda.net/community/topic/369943/doom-doom-ii-patch-notes/2?language%2525255B%2525255D=en&language%255B%255D=en&language[]=en

I've used source ports before, but I'd like to try out the Unity port

[novel gorge]

So you’re just doing this t tyry it out

Ok

[rugged gust]

Yeah, I've played it a bit, and I like it so far. But I'd like to be able to use custom WADs, even just simple ones that replace the compressed audio with the original uncompressed ones

[novel gorge]

Still there’s nothing that special about unity

[snow hearth]

you can use custom wads on unity port, they just have to be doom format

[novel gorge]

Limit removing

Yeah

But I still really don’t see the point

[snow hearth]

It's modern, easy to use, has great controller support, for the average person it's probably the best option

[novel gorge]

Eh

[snow hearth]

I've meet people who can't even unzip a file, so the unity port for that kinda person is great

[novel gorge]

But can those people navigate through a million folders to put the custom wad file in the right place

[snow hearth]

at least that eliminates one step

[novel gorge]

Lol

[snow hearth]

for me I will always prefer dsda doom or crispy

but if some random ask me I will recommend the unity port

[novel gorge]

U was le

Fuc eyboard my working

[snow hearth]

oh crap

[novel gorge]

My kqyeboard is not weing

Dammit

It’s been like this all day

[snow hearth]

it is dying or is it some issue

[novel gorge]

Phone keyboard

Having a stroke, part f screen my respnstive

Not respsivne

[snow hearth]

yeah you're trying to say responsive I understand

[novel gorge]

Fml

[snow hearth]

if its the just the keyboard app you can just download a different one but if the phone's touch not working correctly well that's a sad bruh momment

[novel gorge]

It’ll pass it’s happened before

But right now I am heavily relying n autocorrect

[snow hearth]

oo I just rememberd

if you're using GBoard you can use text to speech

[novel gorge]

Yeah I’m using that some too

[snow hearth]

speech to text*

[novel gorge]

ThisEntire sentence was spoken

He he he

[snow hearth]

sometimes these seemingly useless features can come in handy

looks at own's wad
looks at good custom wad
looks back at own's wad
cry

[glacial skiff]

Is the Unity port even limit removing?

[novel gorge]

Yes

[crisp dragon]

Yeah it is

But i find that when you learn more about sourceports its definitely worth moving off unity

Being only limit removing limits(heh) the amount of wads it can run

[rugged gust]

How though? I've put the files into all the folders I can think of, but it doesn't work for me. It seems like the Steam version is different from the Bethesda version..? I can't even find where the game downloads the custom WADs to, if I could find that folder, I'd bet it would load custom WADs. I've ever tried WADs that are specifically for "vanilla" DOOM, but no go.

[novel gorge]

Listen when you put that much effort into it it’s time t move on

[fallen panther]

@rugged gust
Yeah just get a source port it'll save you so much work

You'll be able to run all those wads and ten times more

[novel gorge]

You’re being stubborn for no reason

@rugged gust I just checked and you’ve been at this for literally 9 hours

https://tenor.com/view/its-time-to-stop-stop-clock-time-gif-5001372

[rugged gust]

LOL, I went to bed shortly after that!

[novel gorge]

The unity port is good but not that good

[novel gorge]

Oh you’re on the other side of the world ok

Lol

[upbeat path]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/123808-t-h-e-d-e-e-p-gzdoom-rc1-realms-deep-map-jam-2021/

[languid cobalt]

So, tell me, does anyone know any mods that make it so armor pickups stack properly? Like, pick up Armor Bonuses, then a green armor, and it gives you a hundred on top of whatever armor you have?

Also something that does the same with health, like you pick up medkits when you've picked up hp bonuses to get to 95, and you go to 105, or something, would be nice.

I keep having to leave the minor bonuses for later, and I can't help but get a bit "OCD" over this

[agile shoal]

Thats just not how Doom works

[languid cobalt]

Aw, crap.

[snow hearth]

A mod like that might be possible but I don't think anyone made something like it

[languid cobalt]

I know some mods like Doomreal do something like that

I just hoped for a universal thing

[snow hearth]

you can message the doomreal mod creator directly I am sure they will be glad to provide

actually aren't they on this server?

@gloomy belfry , Doomreal creator right?

[whole blade]

having any health item take you over 100 massively devalues soulspheres,blue armours and megaspheres

there's a reason the vast majority of not just doom wads, but games in general have this mechanic (special powerups that take you over a base hp/armour value)

[shell wadi]

I have a line using midgrate and monsters see and shoot through it, I have both impassable and block monsters on, how do I make it impossible to shoot through

[snow hearth]

If youre using boom format I would make an invisible wall

Linedef action 242

There is probably a clever work around

[shell wadi]

I'm using doom 2 format

I'm going for chocolate doom compatibility

[snow hearth]

A self refrencing sector might be appropriate

[shell wadi]

how is that done?

[snow hearth]

You create a sector, preferably a rectangle to act as an invisible wall

Increase its floor hieght

Then you choose all its linedefs

And make both front side and back side refrence the sector

I will post screenshots

[shell wadi]

made the sector

now what do I do to it?\

[snow hearth]

For example I have this room and I don't want the imps to shoot the player

[shell wadi]

yes

[snow hearth]

I make this sector to act as an invisible wall

[shell wadi]

can it still be walked through

[snow hearth]

Then I increase the floor height

now the imps cant shoot you, but the wall isnt invisible yet

Select all the sectors linedefs

[shell wadi]

yes

[snow hearth]

and finally make both sector indexes refence the same sector

[shell wadi]

I did so and that made like most of the map not a sector

[snow hearth]

to know whats your sectors index hover over it

after you finish try running the map and seeing if it works

[shell wadi]

yo

I just remembered I can center grid to line

how do I do that, the wall would be really easy if I could

[snow hearth]

I am not certain I understand

[shell wadi]

So

I was making the sector as you told me

but the line I need to wall off is diagonal, so I just remembered I can center the grid to the line, so how do I do that again

[snow hearth]

I actually don't know about that feature

What I usually do is use the sector edit tool and rotate it

[shell wadi]

found it

in edit

[snow hearth]

oh thats a really cool feature this is the first time I see it

it's gonna be really useful in the future

[shell wadi]

dude

my brains going numb from mapping in silence, up to vc

[snow hearth]

TIL: you can choose a background for your grid in UDB

[shell wadi]

doing what you told me crashed doom builder

and probably lost my map

[snow hearth]

oh gosh

it never crashed for me when I did it

don't worry though your map is still fine doom builder keeps backups

[shell wadi]

It was backed up

so I have it, but now how do we fix getting shot

[snow hearth]

can you send the file? I can try doing it for you

[shell wadi]

sure

I'll dm?

[snow hearth]

sure

[glacial skiff]

Worth mentioning that in most cases you don't need crystal sectors for that effect (I just raise the floor to ceiling-1)

The effect is also notorious for behaving inconsistently depending on your nodebuilder, so it's usually advised that you keep them contained in another sector

[shell wadi]

Anyone up to playtest this really difficult setup

[crisp dragon]

uh sure

what port needed, gzdoom?

also wdym setup

[shell wadi]

An arrangement of monsters and shit

[shell wadi]

chocolate doom

[crisp dragon]

ah

oh ok so its vanilla nice

[royal wave]

https://twitter.com/kbeevans/status/1425282383624867841?s=20

Kaelan "kevans" Evans (@kbeevans)

#Gardevoir #Doom

Twitter · Aug 11, 2021, 2:26 AM

[haughty flower]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/ultimate-mortal-kombat-doom/downloads/ultimate-mortal-kombat-doom

release candadate out

[royal wave]

New update for my mod! https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=72802

[fallen panther]

Sometimes it's the little mods that make the biggest difference

Tonight i decided to throw in a little mod called ultimate custom doom onto my project msx fix'd brutal doom enemy combo

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=64678

Before i added this mod in the brutal doom enemies felt too tanky it took nearly a full clip of shells to kill just 1-3 imp with the auto shot gun but after i doubled the damage it felt much better

1 or 2 shots

Although to balance things out I also increased the enemies damage by 1.5

Add on that with me fiddling around with the shield recharge rate to make it recharge way faster and it makes for quite a good feeling

[pulsar pike]

what is project msx?

[fallen panther]

This is project msx
https://youtu.be/j4CnaqfZsBk

@pulsar pike

[pulsar pike]

Wow

[fallen panther]

Yep pretty fun mod

[pulsar pike]

Is Eviternity boom compatible

[snow hearth]

it's MBF, so it should work in Prboom if you're using complevel 11

[pulsar pike]

ok

[agile shoal]

If you are wondering if a wad is boom, limit rem, mbf,etc. just look into its page on the idgames archive

[pulsar pike]

Alright

[vernal talon]

Hi people im trying to do a mod in Android and its about TF2

[languid cobalt]

So, random question, what exactly are your favourite "weapon replacement" mods?

[pulsar pike]

Probably Samsara

It’s literally a mashup of every doom engine game into one

[languid cobalt]

I'm quite partial to Final Doomer myself

High Noon Drifter feels good too, but I worry it's too OP.

Problem with Final Doomer is that playing it on maps it wasn't truly "meant for" feels weird.

[fallen panther]

I've found it only seems like it is at first glance

[languid cobalt]

Plus there are all those damn options you can tweak. Random question, does GZDoom have a Reset to Default option?

[fallen panther]

Options are good

Yes yes it does

[languid cobalt]

Oh, really? I never saw it.

[fallen panther]

One sec

[languid cobalt]

Hey, wait, is that Project MSX?

I thought it got discontinued!

[fallen panther]

Yeah I've been really into that lately

It kinda did this is an unofficial update

Called project msx fix'd

Adds a much needed options menu to the mod among other things

[languid cobalt]

Literally googling it and I can't find it

[fallen panther]

Hang on I'll link it

https://www.moddb.com/mods/project-msx/downloads/project-msx-0-2a

In the comments section under the main download there's a media fire link

That's the update

[languid cobalt]

I see, thank you kindly.

[fallen panther]

While I'm here some things you'll need need to know since it wasn't the mod author doing it some key binds have been moved around

[fallen panther]

No problem here's the new key binds and what they are

Secondary fire is the quick melee attack
Weapon zoom is the alternative fire /alt fire mode switch key

Weapon state 1 is the grenade
Weapon state 2 is the health kit button
Weapon state 3 is the shield booster button

Run is still sprint/dash

[haughty flower]

So i found a feature(i guess), on the hdoom mod. It's when you play hdoom and brutal doom, and it will show a black and white, Revenant head, earaping you, then will spawn like a dozen of Revenants, i got suprised the first time i tried it(littrrally 5 minutes ago)

[snow hearth]

Anti brutal doom technology, the future is here

[languid cobalt]

I think there's another mod that does this, GMOTA or something?

[novel gorge]

This is fucking epic

[haughty flower]

I got it

I got the sprites

It was actually in the .pk3

Of the Hdoom mod

The developer is a genuise

[dull steeple]

Hey @royal wave ?

[royal wave]

Hmm?

[dull steeple]

I’m afraid I have some not-so-surprising news. Some guy watched the video I did of your Gardevoir mod, and he said the gameplay was shit.

Wanna guess the reason why?

[royal wave]

Idk

[novel gorge]

Why did he put “channel” in quotes it is literally a YouTube channel

[dull steeple]

It had nothing to do with the actual gameplay. He resorted to insulting me after he claimed that the capitol riot “wasn’t as bad as it was portrayed on cnn” because he was there

[novel gorge]

??? Lmfao what the fuck

[dull steeple]

The description of my channel literally says “subscribe for more less-than-mediocre content”

Of course it’s shit

[novel gorge]

“Because he was there” nice job outing yourself as a federal criminal

[dull steeple]

Literally took the time to go on each of my videos and left a dislike

He said this too. Lmao

You hear that, guys? We’re all going to jail for having fake names online

[haughty flower]

From the guy that didnt read his profile name

[pulsar pike]

god some people are stupid

[snow hearth]

What options do I have for map editing on Linux other than slade 3?

[agile shoal]

I think you can compile UDB yourself

But Im not sure

[snow hearth]

It uses .NET framework so I dont think so

[agile shoal]

ah damn

[snow hearth]

Maybe I can run it using wine?

[agile shoal]

sure

But Slade is good enough for me

[snow hearth]

Slade is good but its more a jack of all trades

[pulsar pike]

I was gonna suggest wine as well

[crisp dragon]

lmao did you delete the comment? i dont see it

[dull steeple]

It’s not on one of my videos

[crisp dragon]

ah on your profile then i assume

[dull steeple]

No, it’s on a movie trailer video

[crisp dragon]

ah link in dms i wanna see this lmao

[dull steeple]

Sure one minute

[royal wave]

Keep an eye on UDB, there's a side effort to port it off of .net and onto a better cross platform API

[agile shoal]

That would be awesome

[snow hearth]

That'd be great

[agile shoal]

I wanna be able to use mbf21

[vernal talon]

Guess ill be going to jail too, i lie my name as Matt.

[fallen panther]

@uncut river
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=47494

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=60781

https://www.moddb.com/mods/project-msx
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=72084

[uncut river]

Hmmm... Sounds interesting...

have you tried it?

[fallen panther]

Yep I've tried all of them

Trailblazer is good but not really for me however project msx, guncaster and hell crusher I've heavily enjoyed and have come back to multiple times

[uncut river]

Wow, thanks man!

[fallen panther]

One more
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=68575&start=15

[uncut river]

I've been searching for mods for a while ago and I haven't found anything interesting until now...

[fallen panther]

Just need to know where to look i recommended icaruslives YouTube series doom mod madness
This is another one I've come back to multiple times

[uncut river]

Wow! Thanks

[fallen panther]

One last thing

For any mod that doesn't have its own enemies i recommended this monster pack

https://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/downloads/meat-grinder-monsters-only

[uncut river]

ZDoom forum is a little bit confusing for me tho... I can never find the download links...

[fallen panther]

It's basically the gore of brutal doom with more vanilla enemies

They're usually in odd places yeah not quite as uniform as mod dB

[uncut river]

So this is an enemy only mod?

[uncut river]

Holy shit dude it looks awesome

[fallen panther]

Oh no there's lots
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=50504

Little personal demonstration of what the meat grinder gore is like

https://youtu.be/Q84kXD_KpZ0

[uncut river]

Oh wait

It's just Brutal Doom, right?

[fallen panther]

It is but with alot of the fat trimmed out the enemies have vanilla ai you'll never see a zombie on its knees for long

But i figured since i had this video i thought why not show the upper end of how good killing these enemies is

There's a difficulty called extra violence which multiples the zombies and imps by 2 for every 1 placed And its wonderfully messy when they go splat

[uncut river]

Oh nice

Btw how do I find the download links in ZDoom?

I'm just starting and I'm kind of dumb ngl

[fallen panther]

There's usually a section on each mod post that has the download link but it can differ for each one for example

Make sure you're on the first page of the forum thread for one i made that mistake when i linked you to hell rider for instance

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=68575

[uncut river]

Awesome bro! Thanks a lot!

Tomorrow morning I'll going to download all of them

[fallen panther]

Hell riders is that big colorful download button but they're not all like that

And happy to help

[sacred pine]

Oh, I can't get Hellrider, as I can't update my GZDoom on mobile.

[fallen panther]

@sacred pine
You need to get delta touch

Delta touch has the latest gz doom version 4.6 and that can run hell rider no problem

On mobile

[sacred pine]

I live on Venezuela, a country that's really bad on economy, so that's a problem.

[fallen panther]

That's fine the dev distributes promo codes for free to those who are unable to buy the app if they ask

I could send you an invite to their server if you like

[sacred pine]

Oh, sure, I would love that.

[snow hearth]

Isnt gzdoom and some other doom source ports under the GPLv3 license? Doesnt that mean delta touch cant be closed source?

What delta touch is doing doesn't seem too legal but I am not an expert

[sacred pine]

Woah, I just tried a mod of Bullet Time and I enabled the chase cam. It feels like, an demake of Max Payne

I'll see if there's other mods.

[novel gorge]

Is there a quake mod for doom

[sacred pine]

Quake Champions: Doom Edition is pretty good. It has characters from other shooters from the era, even Gordon Freeman is in.

[novel gorge]

No i mean quake remade in doom

Doom engine

[fallen panther]

There is the psx quake reborn levels

[sacred pine]

I guess that would work with ZMovement

[pulsar pike]

Anyone else played Doom The Way We Remember?

[novel gorge]

I’ve been watching decino play it

[pulsar pike]

It’s a really good wad

Even if it’s really weird

[grand vessel]

how does one import a doom map?

I have BFG, btw

[novel gorge]

BFG edition?

[grand vessel]

yep

[novel gorge]

1. Get a different source port
2. Drag the wad file onto the exe file for the source port

[grand vessel]

oh, thanks!

[agile shoal]

Heres a good source port https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/118074/

[novel gorge]

Yeah seriously BFG edition is like the worst option out there

[grand vessel]

well, what would you reccomend?

[agile shoal]

dsda-doom, prboom+ or crispy

[novel gorge]

The one pbegood posted above
Crispy doom is a good vanilla one

If you want mods or fancy lighting options gzdoom (but trust me you don’t want fancy lighting options in doom)

[grand vessel]

lol ok

[fallen panther]

That can be switched off pretty easily

[agile shoal]

Can you switch off the weird physics

[novel gorge]

Unless you’re using mods it’s easier to just use a different port honestly

[fallen panther]

Probably not but then again the physics change isn't something the average player will notice

[novel gorge]

Oh no

[agile shoal]

Oh god, source port discussion again

ill shut up

[fallen panther]

You'd have to be a doom veteran used to playing vanilla or used to playing on unity to even begin to notice the change

[loud spruce]

Doom WAD idea: Something like a trap WAD, but instead of a terry trap it takes players to the Backrooms.

[pulsar pike]

The Backdooms

[random matrix]

What are some good energy weapon wads?

[royal wave]

https://twitter.com/kbeevans/status/1427128924010655754?s=20

Kaelan "kevans" Evans (@kbeevans)

Time to give 'Rip and Tear' a new meaning. #Doom #Gardevoir

Twitter · Aug 16, 2021, 4:43 AM

[crisp dragon]

nic

[dusky wharf]

I've made a Doom level, check It out, It replaces e4m5

[pulsar pike]

cool

[zenith vine]

guys, how change sector position ?

[agile shoal]

Press “s” to change to sector mode.
Click the sector you want to move
Press “e” to enter in edit mode and drag the sector. ENTER to confirm changes

@zenith vine

[zenith vine]

In game

[zenith vine]

I mean.

[agile shoal]

Hmm what the hell is sector position in game?

I thought you were talking about mapping

[snow hearth]

you mean push sectors like wolfienstien 3d?

you have to do some fancy gzdoom format stuff for that

[snow hearth]

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=123&t=71674

[fickle fog]

is it alright if i ask something about the DR4 mod for the original doom in here? its a doom remake mod that was shut down by ID (but its still available for download)

[acoustic crescent]

just ask bruh

[fickle fog]

well, i bought doom on steam, right? and then i downloaded the DR4 mod from https://www.moddb.com/mods/doom-remake-4

i followed its installation instructions and it didnt launch

[novel gorge]

This is a terrible way t Play Doom by the way

If it’s your first time playing better ff doing vanilla

[fickle fog]

oh, ive played vanilla doom many times. got it when it first came out in the 90s lol

[novel gorge]

Ok lo just checin

Kkryabtd broen dammit

[fickle fog]

say what now? lol

[haughty flower]

their keyboard is breaking

[novel gorge]

Yeah

[fickle fog]

oh lol

[novel gorge]

Thanks Gordon freeman

[snow hearth]

You gotta download gzdoom

[fickle fog]

i was going to, but the mod seems to have come with gzdoom.

[novel gorge]

It also came with some iwads, which is why it was banned

[crisp dragon]

Oh god that looks janky af

I assume thy flesh consumed has been replaced with "thy acid consumed" when loading this mod

[fickle fog]

lol

[pulsar pike]

This looks worse than vavoom’s 3D model pack

[fickle fog]

lol

btw, i downloaded gzdoom and i can get dr4 mod to launch (it shows the loading thing after i click on the .exe file for the mod).........but when i get into the actual game its still regular doom. hmmm. i followed all of the instructions that came with the mod. not sure what to do now

[pulsar pike]

delete dr4 and play another mod

[novel gorge]

Best course of action

[fickle fog]

i got dr4 working. i thought doom 1 with modern graphics would be awesome. and well, while it does look good, doom 1 with modern graphics just doesnt work. i can see why ID never bothered to remake doom 1 with modern graphics. the way the levels are structured doesnt really fit with modern graphics

[novel gorge]

Yeah

[fickle fog]

i guess gzdoom is the best way to go for doom 1 and 2 😄

[agile shoal]

NO

[fickle fog]

no? 😮

[novel gorge]

Weeell not quite

[fickle fog]

why not?

[agile shoal]

prboom+/dsda-doom/crispy

[novel gorge]

Too modern for my taste

Combining modern effects with dm doesn’t sit right with me

[agile shoal]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/118074-dsda-doom-source-port-v0201/

This is much better than gzdoom

unless all you want to play is mods

[novel gorge]

It doesn’t have vanilla physics and rules, and the special lighting effects are weird

[fickle fog]

what exactly does this do?

[agile shoal]

Its a source port

[fickle fog]

what do you prefer?

[novel gorge]

So if you’re into that sort of thing it’s the right choice but some people refer doom looking more like it did in the past

[novel gorge]

Crispy doom. Has the original menu, is basically completely vanilla except for being limit removing and having a few quality of life options

[fickle fog]

it makes it look like half life 2?

[agile shoal]

We prefer vanilla. So gzdoom is not the way to go

[novel gorge]

??? No it makes it look vanilla

[agile shoal]

Source port means the game has been ported to new OSs. Not that it was made in the source engine

[fickle fog]

oh, my bad. im an idiot, lol

[novel gorge]

Lmfao

But yeah I prefer doom looking and acting closer to the original version, because that’s the way it was made and looks better that way I Think

[agile shoal]

Choose a source port:

• gzdoom - for mods. alters the gameplay
• crispy - absolute vanilla
• dsda-doom/prboom+ - still vanilla, adds support to the best mapsets, many other great things

I use dsda-doom

[fickle fog]

hmmm. gotcha

is redux mod the best texture mod for OG doom 3?

[agile shoal]

this is not the server for doom 3

try #832527195045494784

[fickle fog]

oh right, lol

[snow hearth]

Ye guys I know gzdoom kind of well, sucks, but you gotta chill

[fading light]

What do you think about my wad?
It's maps 1-2 currently, map 3 is unfinished

Map names:
Map1: UAC sewage waste
Map2: UAC civilian shopping center

[royal wave]

https://twitter.com/kbeevans/status/1427356651095478275?s=20

Kaelan "kevans" Evans (@kbeevans)

Sometimes you just need a big ol' "Fuck You" Moon Blast explosion at your command. #Doom #Gardevoir

Twitter · Aug 16, 2021, 7:48 PM

[haughty flower]

So...
Plainsf2.wad has an apparent problem in the beginning where you can't progress because the elevator won't work.
And that's sad because I was planning on playing it.

And I've found the only way to trigger it is from below, and if I'm being honest, that's actually impossible.

[novel gorge]

What is plainsf2.wad
And do you need a specific source port for it

[haughty flower]

It's a replica of New York and it requires GZDoom

[novel gorge]

so you used gzdoom

[novel gorge]

If it’s broken, then just use the idclip chest temporarily to get past that part

No need to get all sad

[crisp dragon]

Does it need GZDoom?

[fading light]

ye

also needs crouch enabled for a secret

[crisp dragon]

Ah well

Crouch hm

Does it include jumping as well

[novel gorge]

If they don’t specify…

[crisp dragon]

True best to assume gz

[fading light]

no, just needs crouch

[crisp dragon]

Ah

[fading light]

Vertical look allowed but not required

[haughty flower]

But I don't want to, I think all that is needed it a walk-over linedef for the elevator, since, again, I found that it can only be activated from the other side.

So if I want to play it properly without cheats, it requires the smallest of patches
A single linedef

[snow hearth]

If its only a single linedef cant you jist edit it yourself

[novel gorge]

If you can fix it then do that, but don’t just give up and walk away

[shadow trail]

damn this "the age of hell" wad looks sick
cant wait to play the whole thing

[dusky wharf]

heya! i've made a doom level, check it out https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/123954-the-hanging-house-doom-1-level/

[novel gorge]

If the source port is not specified…

[snow hearth]

then its gzdoom...

[snow hearth]

however in this case the source port is specified

[novel gorge]

ah ok interesting

[royal wave]

https://twitter.com/kbeevans/status/1427811380011442181?s=20

Kaelan "kevans" Evans (@kbeevans)

Who here also only uses regular pokeballs to catch legendary demons? (WIP, scripts and effects not final) #Gardevoir #Doom #Pokemon https://t.co/t9hM11L1MT

Twitter · Aug 18, 2021, 1:55 AM

[normal dome]

Hello my friends, here I share some of my maps 😄

[novel gorge]

Gzdoom?

[normal dome]

yes

and zandronum

[agile shoal]

If they dont say it, then its gzdoom

[novel gorge]

It never fails

[agile shoal]

[normal dome]

XD

[snow hearth]

I was about to try it but it requires jumping

[agile shoal]

eww

[fallen panther]

I've got no issues with that 🤔

[pulsar pike]

When you realise umap is just gzboom

[agile shoal]

Yeah umapinfo is pretty much mapinfo for boom

[crisp dragon]

gzboom

dream come true

[lilac scaffold]

Hey, here's a map I made - Enjoy and give feedback
iwad:DOOM II format:Boom

[reef seal]

I ported my house from real life into doom
iwad: Doom 2 Format: Doom 2

[crisp dragon]

would gladly review, brb

alright uhh

holy fuck is this hard

you'd either rely on infighting like 90% of the time just to save enough ammo for the rest of the enemies

also really... a surprise archvile behind a fake wall with barely any ammo left

[lilac scaffold]

the archvile was probably a bit harsh

[crisp dragon]

and the cyberdemon at the end

[agile shoal]

Gave info about the iwad and format. And the format is not gzdoom 👏👏

This is very rare in this server

[crisp dragon]

a demon immune to blast damage, taken out with mostly rockets in a tiny room with basically no shells or bullets left

sheesh this is plutonia levels of bullying

or higher

[lilac scaffold]

im pretty sure there was a backpack and 100 shells in the cyberdemon room

and a SSG

thanks for the feedback ill keep this in mind for the future

[crisp dragon]

then uh its either a secret or you forgot to put em

[lilac scaffold]

its in the corner of the room and lowers when you press the switch that reveals the cyberdemon

[crisp dragon]

there is no ssg

unless im fukin blind or smthing

[lilac scaffold]

i accidentally set it to appear in no difficulties

[crisp dragon]

oh

with the ssg the fight will become much easier at least

[lilac scaffold]

i tested it multiple times and the ssg was there but when i made the other difficulties i set it to not appear

[haughty flower]

Well, you see... the problem is the PC I use to edit wads is gone. All I have left is Delta Touch and a PS4 controller.

[snow hearth]

I wish I could program imagine a doom builder for android

[novel gorge]

Then USE the CHEAT

If there is no other option, you don’t walk away, you walk through it

Remmber the cheat can be toggled so right after you get through the broken bit you can become solid again

[haughty flower]

Okay.

[novel gorge]

You said you wanted to play it, play it

Don’t let a broken linedef stop you

[rapid tartan]

hi... anyone good with doom builder here? what if i have a sky-texture somewhere on the map which doesn't load and wanna fix it?

[unkempt plaza]

Here is map playing a bit of hellhold.WAD part 2 coming soon
https://youtube.com/watch?v=87lt3KDiN2A&feature=share

[torn remnant]

more cave

[atomic onyx]

Is there anyway to stop this from happening when I play gzdoom

[agile shoal]

Change the rendering to “hardware accelerated”

Even better: Dont use mouselook

[haughty flower]

just change the renderer to hardware accelerated so you don't get that warpy effect that you get in DN3D

[rapid tartan]

how do I remove this lighter part without having to redo the whole area?

*doom builder

[snow hearth]

select the light sector and the sector surrounding it

then press Shift + J

Also you probably want to use Ultimate Doom Builder and not Doom builder 1/2, its very outdated

[celest copper]

Hey do you guys think someone could send me a download link for boom I'm trying to get sunlust to run

[snow hearth]

boom is very old and runs only on dos, do you want a link to prboom+ or dsda doom instead?

they are modren forks of boom

[celest copper]

yes

[snow hearth]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/118074-dsda-doom-source-port-v0210/

[celest copper]

thank you

[snow hearth]

np, let me know if you encounter any issues trying to download it

[crisp dragon]

use this tutorial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JC8fnz_L3k&t=185s

only watch up to 6:10 if you want to keep widescreen and your own scaling options

otherwise it'll make things pretty good

[upbeat path]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/123808-t-h-e-d-e-e-p-gzdoom-rc2-realms-deep-map-jam-2021/

[sacred pine]

Better yet, just use Vanilla Essence. It's a lot quicker and you can set it to widescreen too.

[crisp dragon]

I know about vanilla essence but I can't be bothered to load a mod in with whatever else I'm using, plus this is a permanent fix anyway

[novel gorge]

If you’re just doing all that why use gzdoom at all

Oh
For the wider range of maps
I got it

[pulsar pike]

so I can play hdoom /s

[crisp dragon]

I've kinda deemed myself as the type of guy who wants to do map reviews for people, and well I do play mods from time to time but I never really did because gzdoom usually shits on my laptop until I got gzdoom-gles and turned down the scaling + a few other fps optimizations to make it run even better

[novel gorge]

Yeah I figured it out like an second after writing my comment lol #classic-doom-maps-mods message

[pulsar pike]

I used to use gzdoom but I’ve learned the error of my ways and I use prboom+ now

[crisp dragon]

Gzdoom is fine to use but i prefer any prboom fork for casual play any day

My main use for it is gzdoom-centric maps and mods

Benko would be having a hissy fit from this conversation

[fallen panther]

I wonder if anyone will ever be a able to convert me to pr boom I'm pretty sure they couldn't even if I preferred vanilla but they can try 🤔 😂

[novel gorge]

what

[fallen panther]

I mean could people actually convince me to use a source port at least as of now I can't comfortably play

I keep asking people is there a way to disable the head bob in pr boom + but no one ever actually answers me

[novel gorge]

you know what im gonna look
later

but like its kind of a moot point because you couldnt convince me to use gzdoom
except for mods

[fallen panther]

but I'm willing to try it if I can do that one thing

The main reason I use gz doom even when I'm playing very minimally is because it has that option

[novel gorge]

hmm

yeah layer ill dig around the settings see if i can find anything

[crisp dragon]

I mean no you're the mod guy lmao

So many different experiences with mods than from what some people may call "boring old vanilla"

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[fallen panther]

As I Said to epic I'm willing to try it if someone can tell me how to turn off the head bob so I can play it without getting motion sick

[agile shoal]

I think thats a gzdoom only feature

[fallen panther]

That's a shame

Because I honestly wanted to try it

Its a big shame that it's a feature only in the zdoom ports considering many people get motion sick from head bob in first person games

[pulsar pike]

Is vietdoom any good?

[fallen panther]

I can't say I've not tried it

[fallen panther]

@haughty flower

Vietdoom
Brutal wolfenstein/Wolfenstein x
Doom incarnate
Kriegsland

[torn remnant]

ayo map02 is done

(prboom+, doom 2)

[haughty flower]

Nice. Wonder if I can use those weapons in doom 2 and beyond?

IE playing doom 2 level using weapons from brutal wolfenstein

[fallen panther]

If you play using Wolfenstein x you can do that since that version doesn't have the Wolfenstein levels

[haughty flower]

I see!

[royal wave]

https://twitter.com/kbeevans/status/1429858017969909761?s=20

Kaelan "kevans" Evans (@kbeevans)

The pistol and shotgun didn't feel over the top enough, so as an upgrade you can get later down your session, you can start holding multiple pistols and shotguns at once. #Gardevoir #Doom #Pokemon

Twitter · Aug 23, 2021, 5:28 PM

[night pond]

what source port would you recommend for someone who hasnt had much experience outside of the bethesda ports

[snow hearth]

Prboom+ or dsdadoom or eternity engine are the best overall

Gzdoom is good for mod support

Crispy/Chocolate doom is good if you want a more classic experience

[night pond]

thanks

probably going with Prboom+

[agile shoal]

dsda-doom

Its based on prboom+

[agile shoal]

And adds Heretic/Hexen support

[night pond]

oh

ill have to look into that

[crisp dragon]

DSDA-Doom and Eternity Engine are the most diverse besides GZDoom which can run anything

[snow cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/quake-grunt-dancing-gaming-gif-16776488

[pulsar pike]

https://tenor.com/view/nicolas-cage-willys-wonderland-quake-janitor-modding-gif-20630687

[snow hearth]

Eternity engine is underrated though

I feel like it doesn't get enough appreciation

[crisp dragon]

Yep

[haughty flower]

@fallen panther yo you got any recommended combination with Brutal doom?

[fallen panther]

Call of doom is a good pick it adds in the weapons and some mechanics of call of duty while having a brutal doom version using those enemies making the weapons incredibly satisfying

I mean it every weapon is loud and punchy and it's great

There's brutal trail blazer but that doesn't work on newer versions of gz doom at all

The main thing to pair with brutal doom though if you don't want to change the gameplay of it are hud mods and map packs

Unholy realms is fun but hard

Doom 2 reloaded is good

Ultimate doom visor comes to mind

However there's also brutal doom monsters only and brutal doom weapons only that allows you to pair either one of those aspects with other gameplay mods

[haughty flower]

I am thinking about playing through with wolfenstein and other WW2 weapons

[fallen panther]

Go with kriegsland weapons pack and brutal doom monsters only

[haughty flower]

Got it!

[fallen panther]

Unless you'd rather shoot nazis

[haughty flower]

Nah I killed enough nazis in new order and realrtcw

Would vietdoom weapons pack counts just in case if I can't those kriegsland weapons pack don't work?

I got my eyes on PPsh and Mosin

[fallen panther]

I've not tested the viet doom weapons pack myself yet so i can't say

I've tested the kriegsland weapons and brutal doom monsters only combination though

[haughty flower]

That so? I tested out Kar98k and PPsh and works fine. It just needs to be spawn by console command only

[fallen panther]

Thats fine if you like that mods like that aren't my thing I don't like it when things added by a mod aren't something you can experience naturally in normal play or by changing a setting or something

[haughty flower]

Makes sense.

Shame I don't know jack bout replacing brutal doom default weapons with something when it comes to spawning

[languid cobalt]

So, Smooth Doom or Beautiful Doom?

[fallen panther]

Those mods wouldn't work with brutal doom as they all have their own gore effects that would Clash with each other ontop of that brutal doom would overwrite smooth dooms enemy changes

[languid cobalt]

I meant in general.

[fallen panther]

We're talking about mods that combo with brutal doom well
In general is something completely different

[languid cobalt]

I figured you'd stopped talking about Brutal, it had been a few hours. Either way, which do people prefer, Smooth or Beautiful?

...Unless there's some other alternative I'm not aware of.

[fallen panther]

I've tried smooth doom its nice but

Honestly I wish that there was a mod that added the enemy reaction systems that brutal doom has or something similar and do the vanilla enemies make the enemies feel more like your shots actually do something visably affect more often instead of them just eating your bullets

[languid cobalt]

Hm. I would play Brutal more, but I don't like how you can overheal beyond 200.

Like, that just feels weird.

[fallen panther]

Honestly considering how much more damage the enemies can deal quickly it's kinda warranted 🤔

[languid cobalt]

It's mostly because I can't help but optimise as I play, so I end up grabbing the soulspheres only when I'm at 100, and only grabbing the health vials when I'll get the overheal.

Since getting them and then grabbing medkits is pointless. It messes me up whenever I play.

[fallen panther]

Ah I see not my personal way of play but i understand

[languid cobalt]

I've got a few disorders in my brain, so I just can't shake it.

[fallen panther]

It's fine

[languid cobalt]

I do still like how the shotgun feels, and how they actually give you an assault rifle.

Although, having the assault rifle and an SMG on top of that feel a bit much. Like, you don't want too many weapons, they'll just get in the way when you're mouse-wheeling through them all.

[fallen panther]

That's why I think I've come to like weapon wheels it kinda makes just selecting the exact thing I want alot easier

Plus since i use a controler it frees up one of my buttons for something else

[languid cobalt]

Are there any Weapon Wheel mods for things like this?

[fallen panther]

There are actually a few gearbox is one of the more popular ones

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=71086

I mainly use it on pc because delta touch has its own weapon wheel that's honestly one of the most useful

[novel gorge]

yeah lmao its been like 3 hours

[haughty flower]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/terminator-mayhem-arena-urepentant-30/downloads/terminator-mayhem-arena-classic-edition

[haughty flower]

0

[flint zealot]

how can i make textures like MIDBARS or MIDSPACE actually transparent?

[haughty flower]

any recmidations for some wads or total conversion mods

[novel gorge]

@fallen panther you’re our mod guy

But as for total conversions try alien vendetta or Batman doom

[haughty flower]

ok sweet i just started modding doom

[fallen panther]

Alien vendetta isn't a total conversion its a normal custom level set 🤔

[novel gorge]

Wait it isn’t?

Hold on wasn’t there an alien total conversion

[fallen panther]

There is but it not that one

https://youtu.be/O5qOCCnxj88

https://youtu.be/eNqmyOVIooo

[novel gorge]

OOHHH

Ok now I got it

[sage night]

anyone here good with dehacked?

or whacked4?

[agile shoal]

Alien Vendetta is just an awesome megawad.
And Batman Doom is a vanilla total convertion created 20 years ago. I doubt anyone want to play it nowadays. It didnt age well imo

[agile shoal]

Im not an expert, but Ive done some things with it. Whats the problem?

[sage night]

i'm trying to put chex quest into dehacked so that it works on unity doom

[agile shoal]

Hmm no idea how to do that. sorry

[agile shoal]

I can give you links to some modding servers if you want

[haughty flower]

I used Vietdoom mod for brutal doom. It was awesome at the cost of not be able to weapons I downed using console command...

[valid thorn]

could someone dm me the link to the lexicon discord? the one on the message seems to be expired.

[fading light]

In doombuilder are there any downsides from switching boom format to zdoom format?

Which is better? Boom format or Zdoom in UDMF format?

[fading light]

Whats the difference between ally and friendly in doombuilder?

[whole blade]

different formats do different things

there's no "better"

well, zdoom in udmf is deprecated by gzdoom in udmf

[agile shoal]

Boom works on PrBoom+/dsda-doom. UDMF does not.
I dont recommend making maps that only work in gzdoom because you will lose a lot of people that dont want to use gzdoom

[whole blade]

there are a lot of zdoom related obsolete formats now (like doom in hexen which was the precursor to udmf)

[whole blade]

make what maps you want

[agile shoal]

Doom is Hexen will come to dsda-doom in the future

[whole blade]

pick the format you enjoy working with

i almost exclusively map for gzdoom. hasn't hurt me

[fading light]

Also why don't people like gzdoom? It's kinda weird

[fading light]

Wait whoops I sent it twice

[snow hearth]

It doesn't use the same physics as doom and has many questionable features

[fading light]

Ah, also what features?

[snow hearth]

things like the texture filtering and jump/crouch being on by default

GZDoom is not a bad source port, but it's not for everyone

[fading light]

Eh it's just the default settings you can change it

also why no mouselook with true color renderer ;-;

[agile shoal]

Why mouselook at all

gzdoom is not exactly Doom, its a modified version (different physics and AI). All fine to play mods, but I cant use it for normal play

[pulsar pike]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doomguy-doom-face-doom-icon-gif-17308241

[whole blade]

you can get gzdoom very very close to pure vanilla physics and behaviour

and visuals

anyway, the true purists play doom.exe on dosbox in 320x200

[agile shoal]

Make it demo compatible then

And no. True purist dont use dosbox, they dont emulate dos. They run dos as their OS

[crisp dragon]

Gzdoom - good. Not perfect, but nothing's perfect in our ever shortening lives so why are we arguing about this again

[fallen panther]

Yeah at the end of the day gz doom is just another option

[plain sedge]

Omg why was I having such difficulty doing this

[haughty flower]

new deathmatch map called TERMINATION

[pulsar pike]

Double Impact is a good wad

[sage night]

I wish I could map lol

[haughty flower]

Practice makes perfect

[haughty flower]

You should try, it's fun

[shadow trail]

yeah start either with doom builder
or ultimate doom builder

[sage night]

Ight

[snow hearth]

Never use the og doom builder imo

Ultimate doom builder is better in every way with no real downside

[crisp dragon]

Alright

[fading light]

In doom builder I accidentally override my map, how do I restore it?

[agile shoal]

Slade3 creates a backup

idk about doom builder

[snow hearth]

if you have ultimate doom builder or gzdoom builder it automatically makes .backup files

move the latest backup to a new folder and rename the file so it doesn't have the word backup1/2/3

[upbeat path]

https://twitter.com/majorarlene/status/1431202101330391040?s=20

SHANNON//CANNON @ RD2021 💙 (@majorarlene)

New title for Dancing in the Abyss #doom TC, huge thanks to InsaneGazebo for this 💚

Twitter · Aug 27, 2021, 10:29 AM

[fading light]

I'm making a doom wad
Anyone wanna play it when it's finished?

[agile shoal]

Post it here when its ready to be playtested

You dont have to ask :P

[fading light]

play through maps 1-3 (map3 is undecorated and map4 is unfinished)

Port: gzdoom (sorry)

Options needed: crouch and jump enabled, mouselook optional.

Have fun!

[fallen panther]

Most hunting today has ended on this
https://youtu.be/O8DDu-YRtTU

[fallen panther]

I tried pushing this with the normal doom music and my instincts were telling me it just wasn't fitting in

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=49073

[white saddle]

why does the floor descend when i use the door

and it wont go upward and out of the way like a normal door

[snow hearth]

tag 0

the linedef shouldn't have tag 0

the linedef that has the open door action (DR/SR) should have the same tag as the sector that makes up the door

[white saddle]

oh

[dusky wharf]

milk

[lunar flint]

Oooh

Man

I think tag 0 is automatically fixed in GZdoom

[white saddle]

i fixed the issue but i just cant get doors to work

[lunar flint]

Idk

[white saddle]

whyd they make the editor so comlicated to use

[lunar flint]

Man, you should see e4m5 on doom but something is not right

That tag 0 fucks up the whole map

[white saddle]

i dont remeber much e4 maps but i do remeber 1 2 and 8

[lunar flint]

Same

[white saddle]

very good maps

[lunar flint]

I like perfect hatred

[white saddle]

e4m7 though was shit

[lunar flint]

I forgor

[white saddle]

really forgetable map

it has a broken secret and cyberdemen

[lunar flint]

Episode 2 is underrated

[white saddle]

i hate e2

[lunar flint]

oh yeaah

i love e2

[white saddle]

my least favorite episode other than e2m8

[lunar flint]

My fav episode

E4 is worst

[white saddle]

ehh idk

[lunar flint]

1. E2
2. E1
3. E3
4. E4

[white saddle]

e3 and 31 my favorites

e3

[lunar flint]

Jeremy Clarkson

[wispy relic]

I'm looking at your map, and there's a lot of weird stuff going on

what map editor are you using?

[novel gorge]

yeah what the hell is up with that map

[wispy relic]

think I have it figured out

first guess is they deleted a line by accident

second guess would be they're literally building the map manually by hand and screwed up the sector/linedef references, but that would be crazy

btw, would love some opinions/feedback on this WAD. it's a replacement for map25 of TNT built in the vanilla format; runs like a charm in crispydoom and gzdoom, but I haven't tried other ports. music is from the plutonia midi pack (map 31)

since it's a lategame map, I didn't think a pistol start would be reasonable so I went ahead and frontloaded some supplies so you can just plug and play

and ofc a couple of screenies

[novel gorge]

I did it

vanilla format
first thing I made in like one minute

but I did it, I made a doom map

this is a good starting point

im gonna watch one of those videos on how to use ultimate doom builder again

[haughty flower]

I doo gotta admit
Doom In Hexen Format is really cool

[white saddle]

Doom builder 2

[snow hearth]

its very outdated, download ultimate doom builder instead

[white saddle]

Ok

[timid flume]

https://youtu.be/zfRnAkD05Ew

Walpurgis 0.94 is out! You can get it here at the ZDoom Forums: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=67025

[wispy relic]

Alright, if you're having trouble getting doors to work, I recommend you either watch some basic tutorial videos on how to get going in doom builder, or open up the original doom/doom 2 levels and take a look at how those were built and mess around with them

and I agree w/ Crispy up there, get either Ultimate Doombuilder or DoomBuilder X. they're modern continuations of doombuilder 2

[white saddle]

i just got ultimate doom builder rn and i made a working door

[white saddle]

why wont a floor generate

[haughty flower]

click on the make sector tool and click on the missing sector

should fix the problem

[white saddle]

Thanks

[white saddle]

can i make walls thicker in doom builder

enemies bullets and projectiles just noclip through them

and it looks stupid so yeah

[wispy relic]

one sec

alright so suppose you have an empty room you drew, and you wanna make a wall using Linedefs Mode

instead of drawing a single line like this

make a new sector like this

then go into sectors mode and, hovering over that new sector, delete it

[novel gorge]

How do I select a vertex then move it

[wispy relic]

boom

[white saddle]

oh

[wispy relic]

you now have a wall that stops projectiles

[white saddle]

epic

[novel gorge]

Also how do I make that dumbass sector be able to be made inside another instead of having to make it outside and dragging it in

[white saddle]

uh

[wispy relic]

when drawing sectors, always use Linedef mode

at least that's what I do, epicgamer

[white saddle]

yea same

[novel gorge]

Yeah but what physical keyboard or mouse controls

[white saddle]

also how do i make the roof of something higher without making the walls expand higher

so when you go outside the roof wont look flat

[novel gorge]

You need to raise the sky ceiling I guess

[wispy relic]

left click twice while in linedef mode. you'll start drawing a line on the grid near where you double clicked

[novel gorge]

OH ok

Double click thanks
I’ve got it all figure out now thank you

[wispy relic]

can make a screenie of what you're doing that you don't want to be doing, and an example of what you do want to be doing?

[white saddle]

ok

i want the roof to be not flat (the roof on the building)

but i dont want to raise the walls

just make the roof thick basically

[wispy relic]

alright, I got an idea

what you need to do is lower the ceiling of the inner room something like 8 or 16 pixels

that way it's not flush with where the sky texture gets drawn

[white saddle]

alright

[wispy relic]

if you mean you want an actual roof that enemies can stand on or w/e for your building, like this

that's unfortunately not possible in the vanilla doom map format

[white saddle]

ah

i wasnt going to make enemies stand on them but just making the roof thick

now that i think about it i could go without it

[wispy relic]

in Vertexes mode, hover over the vertex you wanna drag
hold down right click, and while doing that move around your mouse

[white saddle]

cuase the new sectors make it look better

[novel gorge]

ok thanks

[novel gorge]

what about directly on an already existing line

[wispy relic]

you can also select multiple vertices to drag them at the same time, and the way dragging works there also applies to the Lines and Things modes

[novel gorge]

like if i want the line to start there

[wispy relic]

double click near the point on the line where you're going to draw and it should start a new line there
for example, with my cursor over here on the red dot (so it's not highlighting the line or anything)

I just double click and it goes

[novel gorge]

oh ok

[wispy relic]

now, if the line you want to draw off of isn't flush with the grid you have on, it's a little trickier

[novel gorge]

so you cant do it directly make a new vertex on a line you have to work around that a little

[wispy relic]

you can start with making a new vertex, which is actually what I was gonna say next lol

it's just that usually you don't have to that first

[novel gorge]

ok

so sometimes i will have to work around it
thanks

[white saddle]

how do i make a platform

[wispy relic]

draw a new sector inside of a room

then increase the floor height so that it's higher than the room's floor

if the player shouldn't be able to step onto the platform without lowering it first, the platform's floor needs to be more than 24 units above the room's floor

[novel gorge]

how much is that in "units"
24 pixels

[wispy relic]

pixels, units, mb; they're interchangeable

I'll try to just say units from now on

[novel gorge]

oho k

[white saddle]

thanks

also can i make it so that enemies will only alert if you enter their sight

[novel gorge]

i think you can make them deaf

[white saddle]

in doom builder 2 i had the option but i cant find it in ultimate doom builder

[wispy relic]

"deaf" isn't the right word for it, usu the flag is called "Ambush Players" nowadays

[white saddle]

oh

[novel gorge]

ok

[white saddle]

thanks for all the help btw

its really making my first map be better

[wispy relic]

ye, no problem

[white saddle]

i wanna make this floor have height but it does this when i give it

[wispy relic]

alright, open up that place in the editor in 3d mode

[white saddle]

?

oh

[white saddle]

ok opened it

[wispy relic]

do you see anything up with the raised ground there

[white saddle]

yeah

the ! blocks are there

[wispy relic]

like this right

[white saddle]

oh i got it to work

[wispy relic]

so what that means is that the game is expecting a texture there, but you don't have one on that surface

[white saddle]

this is a epic gamer moment

yeah i put in some textures

wait how do i lower the walls

[wispy relic]

cool
one minor thing to note, when you're making a sky, you can do make the sector like this

[white saddle]

when i made the floor the wall went up

[wispy relic]

in order to have a higher ceiling without having the walls get really high

and in this case you don't need to worry about the missing textures up there in the sky; it'll display fine in game

hmm, can you do a before/after?

[white saddle]

so when i raised the floor the wall became hgher

i want it to be the same height as the other walls

[wispy relic]

did you use this option that says "height offset"?

[white saddle]

no

[wispy relic]

that one adjusts both the floor and the ceiling at the same time

[white saddle]

oh

can i do negative then or how can i lower it

[wispy relic]

in any case just lower the ceiling in builder
you can toggle the nice sky appearance btw next to the green play button, that way it's easier to see where the ceiling heights for skies are in 3d mode

[white saddle]

ok

[novel gorge]

yes?

[white saddle]

epic gamer is in epic gamer

[novel gorge]

[white saddle]

its about half way done if you wanna test it, i actually really like this for a first map

[crisp dragon]

HM

sorry for caps lmao
hm interesting

[white saddle]

Lol

[crisp dragon]

GZDoom?

[white saddle]

I played it on zdoom but it could probably run on anything

[crisp dragon]

alright wtf is this starting room

[white saddle]

yeah starting room is weird

I usually punch the stupid pain elemental out of they way and get the plasma gun in the other building

And light it up with plasma

[crisp dragon]

its not bad once you learn the layout

[white saddle]

Yeah

when I made it I plotted out bit by bit on how to do it

so it might be confusing maybe for first time

[wispy relic]

All right, so some things will def begin to click esp w/ level architecture/geometry as you make more and more maps

one thing rn tho is that the enemies present are uhh a little much for a pistol start imo, what with the two arch viles ready to pounce on you

[crisp dragon]

doom 2 nm is honestly insane lmfao

having trouble even with EOAE

[white saddle]

i usially berserk the pain elemental and get the hell out of the starting area to get plasma and ssg and kill all the enemies

[crisp dragon]

i honestly run over everything

after you nab the ssg and the plasma rifle you're a ok for everything else

[white saddle]

yeah

im planning to add a yellow key trap

i was gonna add a secret lift

but i cant get it to work

not to go to a whole new floor thing but for a secret ammo box

[wispy relic]

gonna admit I've never done vanilla nightmare past e1m1 or map01

[white saddle]

yeah same here

[wispy relic]

just never bothered with it lol

[white saddle]

nightmare is absolutrely insane

how do people even do it

[wispy relic]

Fastmonsters by itself tho presents an interesting challenge, and I like it coupled with other difficulty flags and stuff Zdoom is capable of implementing

[white saddle]

i never bothered playiong fast monsters

[wispy relic]

alright before I do one last pass to implement the lower difficulty settings and coop monsters, it would be great if someone could give this map a go and tell me how they find it on UV (or nightmare if you're feeling frisky)

it's built in vanilla doom format and replaces map 25 of TNT, no other resources required

I was able to beat it on pistol start and fully clear out all the enemies on UV, so I know it's winnable
but what I really want to know is if it's enjoyable

[crisp dragon]

I'm doing doom 2 nightmare with EOAE which is a doom eternal mod

and lemme tell you its still really fucking hard

[languid cobalt]

Does anyone know how to get Ultra Violence Plus working in GZDoom?

[snow hearth]

Write these commands in the gzdoom console

sv_alwaysspawnmulti 1
sv_fastmonsters 1
skill 4
map map01

Replace "map map01" with any map you want

[languid cobalt]

Alright, then. Are there any mods that add it to the menu or do I need to keep those commands memorized?

[snow hearth]

I think gzdoom allows creating key binds or config files but I have on clue how you gotta search it online

[fallen panther]

Some of those commands are also toggleable options in menus as well

Fast monsters definitely is one

[languid cobalt]

{
   SpawnFilter = Hard
   Name = "Ultra-Violence+"
   Key = "u"
   FastMonsters
   SpawnMulti
}

I saw this on the zdoom forums, what is it and how do I use it

[wispy relic]

It’s a skill definition for a MAPINFO block

You can insert it into a blank WAD with Slade, and load that file with whatever other WAD(s) you wanna play in order to have UV+ on the skill selection menu

[languid cobalt]

Slade, huh? Never heard of it, I assume that's a modding tool.

[wispy relic]

Ye, it allows you to open up and edit all entries in a WAD, unlike Doombuilder which is specifically for mapmaking and scripting

MAPINFO is a text entry in a WAD, but in spite of its name, it actually handles a shitload of things besides map information lol

[languid cobalt]

Huh. Guess I gotta figure this Slade thing out.

The thread didn't provide a WAD like you describe, just that code.

[wispy relic]

If you get Slade, you should be able to make a blank WAD

from there you make a new entry, name it MAPINFO, and paste that code into it as text, and you should be good

Unfortunately I’m at work rn, so I don’t have any editing tools on hand, but later I can go ahead and set up a WAD for that if you can’t get it to work for w/e reason

[languid cobalt]

No need for that, I got it to work

Thanks @wispy relic

[white saddle]

How can I do multiple levels in a wad

[wispy relic]

when you’re making a second map in doombuilder, use “Save Map Into” and choose the existing wad you wanna use

If you don’t mess with the MAPINFO lump, you have to name your map files ‘Map01, Map02, Map03’, etc. for them to work properly

or e1m1, e1m2, and so on if you’re modding for Ultimate Doom

[white saddle]

ok

i finally made a working door it wasnt that bad actually

i found a good tutorial for it

[languid cobalt]

So, what's everyone's favourite doom launcher? I use ZDL myself, is that the best?

[novel gorge]

I drag my wad into crispy-doom.exe

[languid cobalt]

Ah. I like to stack up mods, I'm not such a fan of pure vanilla.

[novel gorge]

Lol

[languid cobalt]

what?

[novel gorge]

Nuthin’

[white saddle]

how do i make a elevator

i wanna make this a secret box of ammo

[safe steppe]

use the lift action

its just like how you make a door but instead of the door linedef you have a lift linedef

[white saddle]

ok

[steep harbor]

Hii

I got some Leaks

[white saddle]

i cant get a crusher to work

hm

[white saddle]

how can i tag this thing

[wispy relic]

for teleporters in Vanilla doom, you don't tag the Teleport Destination thing itself, but instead the sector it's in

[white saddle]

oh

thanks

wth

he just teleports randomly

not in his tagged sector

he teleports to the player spawn

do i also have to make another sector for the tp or what i do

[safe steppe]

Create a sector thats 64x64 in size, give it a tag and put a teleport destination thing inside it

[white saddle]

ok

damnit he still teleports over there

is it from this thing

the ornage thing idk what it is its been there since i started making the map

[safe steppe]

Nah the archvile is stepping on the teleport linedef somehow

On that note where is the teleport linedef?