yeah, its not changing anything inside the level, its just defining a few parameters for it
#classic-doom-maps-mods
olive mirage
olive mirage
ah wait is that mapinfo for zdoom? because umapinfo doesnt have the include stuff, lemme make a fixed version for zdoom maps instead
silver ridge
GZdoom
olive mirage
wait, you have everything right, you just need to delete levelname and skytexture
the only error was in the level itself, try it now and see what happens
olive mirage
ah, i think you need to unquote the include file
sorries, im a bit rusty
you’re missing quotes on episode name as well
silver ridge
olive mirage
ah, you need to rename umapinfo to mapinfo again, gzdoom gets a bit confused because there is no include in umapinfo files
silver ridge
the shy is still flat
olive mirage
did you save the map before testing it?
silver ridge
olive mirage
did you check if you did it right? yours should look like this, or if you have enhanced rendering disabled, it should look like the flat at the bottom
olive mirage
if you mean like wolfenstein where the ceiling is just a solid color, i dont think so, but there is enhanced rendering thing i talked about
olive mirage
its tab key
olive mirage
discord was glitched
maybe it was connection lag, happens to me sometimes where all messages just pop outta nowhere
novel bramble
yeah most likely
novel bramble
useless info but in vanilla you can open slade and like grab any sky and rename it to like r_sky1 and it basically changes to that texture
silver ridge
tab does nothing
novel bramble
useless info but in vanilla you can open slade and like grab any sky and rename ...
iirc if you use doom 1 as an iwad it be just sky
olive mirage
tab does nothing
your screenshots use the wrong texture intead of the placeholder one from f_sky, are you 100% sure its correct? if nothing happens that probably means youre using the wrong sky texture
i made a recreation of issue, try and see if you did anything wrong
silver ridge
I'm just going to use F_Sky_1
olive mirage
ye you need to use that one
mapinfo defines which sky texture you actually want to use, but on maps its always f_sky1
silver ridge
sorry to bother you with this
olive mirage
no worries, i like to help
robust wave
Just remove the include, it's not needed in both umapinfo and mapinfo
silver ridge
now its working
silver ridge
so F_SKY1 is the sky that works. whatever is defined in SLADE will be the sky that i used in the game
silver ridge
I didn't know it works like that
novel bramble
yeah f_sky1 is the texture that makes it into an actual skybox
and is usually the one you should select to make it a sky, you were putting wall textures to the ceiling so thats why it looked flat for a bit
i assume its ur first time making a map?
if so, hey, mistakes happen, you'll learn to be a better doom mapper!
silver ridge
i assume its ur first time making a map?
I am new to it. I have made other maps before. I just haven't done too much with outside stuff
novel bramble
i see, hey, you'll learn as you make more maps and stuff
silver ridge
I was doing amnesia the dark descent maps. I ran out of ideas
Is making new enemies and weapons complicated?
silver ridge
I downloaded butal doom kickass edition. I keep getting errors when I load ultimate doom builder. I even tried Starting a new map
dim ivy
I tried to make like a cafeteria or smth like that
silver ridge
I get 410 error warnings. But everything seems to work fine
silver ridge
I don't understand how this works. there is only 5 difficulty settings
whole blade
I don't understand how this works. there is only 5 difficulty settings
You can make more via mapinfo
silver ridge
is 7 and 8 nightmare difficulty?
silver ridge
How do I define this
whole blade
Mapinfo
silver ridge
Is there a video on how to do this?
whole blade
Bookmark the zdoom wiki
https://zdoom.org/w/index.php?title=MAPINFO
This specifically pertains to the number shown in the editor (spawnfilter)
silver ridge
so the skill thing should go above everyting else
whole blade
It can go anywhere in the mapinfo block. It makes sense to put it near the top
devout idol
How do I compile ACS files?
severe isle
Since I generated the maps I made with Obsidian. Can the maps be designed?
olive mirage
How do I compile ACS files?
you can use slade which i think comes with acc (compiling tool) or use ultimate doom builder to compile level acs directly
whole blade
How do I compile ACS files?
UDB does it for you
ACS is automatically compiled when you save the map
devout idol
Gotcha
whole blade
Older editors you had to manually compile it yourself (or at least, press the compile button in the editor)
floral fjord
aight, so I'm modding DOOM 2 with the GZDoom thing
I'm trying to think of a way to make video cutscenes in terms of beginning the level and ending the level (idk how to word it out)
got any suggestions?
silver ridge
I'm trying to think of a way to make video cutscenes in terms of beginning the l...
Like a movie cutscene?
slate maple
creating difficulty between difficulties already made is certainly a pain
devout idol
olive mirage
or have interactive passive NPCs
cutscenes are a bit complicated since uz/gzdoom cant use mp4, it uses a weird format called ivf which is video only and requires an audio file of the same name to be placed next to it, also it only works on pk3s for some reason
dialogue is a bit simpler, editors like udb allow you to directly compile it like an acs script, maybe you could watch something like chubzdoomer’s youtube tutorials, they helped me a lot
silver ridge
cutscenes are a bit complicated since uz/gzdoom cant use mp4, it uses a weird f...
I saw his video on strife dialogue. I just don't know how he got those marine npcs there
olive mirage
i dont have my pc on me rn so i cant check but they should be on a special things editor if youre working with udmf for gz or uzdoom
silver ridge
I'm using udmf
And gz
I was wondering if he just used the player start marine guys
olive mirage
I was wondering if he just used the player start marine guys
there are some marine bots which just act like regular monsters but with doomguy’s weapons and i remember there being an unarmed marine which i think is the one he used
he used the scripted marine, i think thats because it doesnt do anything on its own
silver ridge
I need to learn how to do that
I have a certain way I'm doing my game. I want this to be somewhat different than anyone else's.
olive mirage
scripted marines are under the marines folder in the thing browser but you can try using other stuff as well by making them friendly so they dont attack you
silver ridge
I'll check that out. I felt like it would make sense to have the player start in hell. Because I felt like we were in hell when we fought the icon of sin. So now you have to escape hell. When you get back to earth you talk to your superior officer. After you talk to him the demons start invading the base
royal wave
Throwback to the April Fool's mod I made last year https://youtu.be/r6SgP3aKO5A?si=_28eJh_GZ25vjHAY
floral fjord
cutscenes are a bit complicated since uz/gzdoom cant use mp4, it uses a weird f...
Might look on to this
lethal elbow
I check out the mods in Hellforge studios, is Doom 2: Resurrected not released yet ??
cold heath
Doomguy got that dawg in him
https://www.moddb.com/addons/dogguy-mugshot-for-doom
floral fjord
Lowk am considering making character sprites like these models from postal for my zdoom modded type game
At least it saves time for art and stuff
iron yacht
How do I get my custom DECORATE actors (monsters, weapons, etc) to show up in the thing list in Ultimate Doom Builder? They already have DoomEdNumbers
royal wave
narrow laurel
iron delta
slate maple
working on e6m3, a wolfenstein ish level. must decide how abstract i want ot make it
its going ot have stairs at least, but ill try to keep a mix of blocky and doomish layouts. not sure if i want to use the new order textures or nazi
might make a zombie SS guy if i find the time. i wonder if that has been done. thought about turning a chaingunner into zombie grosse.
scenic sinew
A secret boss battle I created
robust wave
A secret boss battle I created
The secret Pissvile
Really like having unique bosses in wads
And damn that midi goes hard
dreamy vortex
short 1 level wad i already posted in doomworld but i really wanted to post it in here too sooo 
ornate wraith
I don't want it to trigger when the player crosses it, only the barrel
robust spear
"high res doomguy isn't real, he cannot hurt you"
mfw:
ornate wraith
is there a way to make an action happen to a sector with two tags (ex; raise floor by value on sector tagged 200 AND 300) in ACS scripting? (GZDoom, Doom 2: UDMF)
scenic sinew
And damn that midi goes hard
Thanks, it's a secret boss that's a parody of the final boss from Valiant; the song is actually the same: Arctic Stage (TallGeese theme).
And for that same reason that he invokes lumas.....
robust wave
is there a way to make an action happen to a sector with *two* tags (ex; raise f...
You could just
Floor_RaiseByValue(200,-,-);
Floor_RaiseByValue(300,-,-);
onyx ice
In doomrpg & rla, that's the medkit for? The symbol below credits and skill points
ornate wraith
You could just
Floor_RaiseByValue(200,-,-);
Floor_RaiseByValue(300,-,-);
That raises all sectors tagged 200 or 300 not the sector tagged both 200 and 300
robust wave
That raises all sectors tagged 200 or 300 not the sector tagged both 200 and 300
Oh, I get it now
Not sure how to check for all tids
ornate wraith
I got my goal achieved- didn't figure out whether or not you could specify multiple IDs, but I got another solution.
Now I need to figure out how to move flying enemies (cacodemons, lost souls, pain elementals...) down a conveyor
scenic sinew
My Final Boss Batlte
ornate wraith
My Final Boss Batlte
Very cool
fickle bluff
heyy check this mod out i'm making :D
It's a roguelike randomizer with a heavy focus on Melee combat and PLAAANTS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu38fvfI6w8
i wouldve sent the embedded video but i don't have nitro 🤷♀️
scenic sinew
heyy check this mod out i'm making :D
It's a roguelike randomizer with a heavy f...
Looks nice
fickle bluff
hehe thankss
i usually never show off stuff, i just upload it cuz why not; but this looked so cool i needed to share it rn
sage shuttle
My Final Boss Batlte
awesome
slate maple
anyone have experiance in making custom huds?
fickle bluff
anyone have experiance in making custom huds?
i do!
i can help you if you wanna, just dm me
well it depends, actually – i only DIY my UIs through eventhandlers, they arent actually part of the whole intended HUD framework, but yknow, if it works it works
fickle bluff
anyone have experiance in making custom huds?
stuff like that
scenic sinew
Improved Secret Luma Boss
slate maple
yah my hud has many different ammo types, quake like rune keys, currencies and other bonuses. My problem is figuring out how to place the icons properly
fickle bluff
why? how are they placed right now that's not properly?
silver ridge
I don't know why i'm getting this error. Can anyone help?
fickle bluff
you have a = instead of a ==, i think that's it shy_hehe_sheepish_grin
why is it doing that to my emojis lol
if my brain isn't having a total syntax error rn i'm pretty sure == is for comparing, = is for setting
warm sluice
if my brain isn't having a total syntax error rn i'm pretty sure == is for compa...
You're right.
warm sluice
I don't know why i'm getting this error. Can anyone help?
Your "SwitchNumber" needs to be followed by "==" since you are comparing, and your "SwitchFlipped" needs to be followed by "=" since you are setting them to true after your if condition runs.
onyx ice
In doomrpg how do you change the confirm button from run+use to just use?
ornate wraith
feels like an obvious one but I can't seem to find it anywhere- how do i trigger a secret via an ACS Script? GZDoom Doom 2: (UDMF)
whole blade
feels like an obvious one but I can't seem to find it anywhere- how do i trigger...
Easiest way is to place the secret actor and then all you need to do is activate it
ornate wraith
Easiest way is to place the secret actor and then all you need to do is activate...
I want a secret to trigger when I press a button- not when I enter a sector
whole blade
Yep
Place the secret actor
Give it an id tag
Then use thing_activate in your script
ornate wraith
Then use thing_activate in your script
I put a barrel off the side of the map, set is as count as secret, set it to ID 9, and put thing_activate(9); in my script but nothing happens when i trigger the script
also sorry about my previous message (the first one replying to you), i misread actor as sector for some reason
whole blade
I put a barrel off the side of the map, set is as count as secret, set it to ID ...
There is an actual "thing" in the udb actor list
Type 'secret' into the filter and it should show
SecretTrigger is the actor name
ZDoom allows scripted secrets with the SecretTrigger actor. The secret is considered found when the secret trigger is activated, generally by a script. A SectorAction effect can be used to run the script that will in turn activate the SecretTrigger
ornate wraith
There is an actual "thing" in the udb actor list
Thank you! It worked
Honestly they should have the option of 'count as secret' for linedevs, I think, but this works for sure
ornate wraith
Anyone know how you would go about raising only the center square in this example here?
whole blade
Anyone know how you would go about raising *only* the center square in this exam...
Add another tag
ornate wraith
Add another tag
im using this to prototype a coordinate grid system, where one tag acts as an X value and the other as a Y
I've already done this, however the solution I made was hacky to say the least
And script 11 handles the actual moving up and down (the grid is 20x20, tags horizontally going 200-219, vertically going 300-319)
fickle bluff
DAMN
scenic sinew
My doom mod!!!
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/157805-gs-project-release/?tab=comments#comment-3015456
here's some details, and the download link
onyx ice
How do you fix acs module issue? My message says "level was saved with a different number of acs modules. (Have 15, save has 14)
fickle bluff
If that’s the reaction that room got I should do a tour of the whole map
yessir you should
fickle bluff
anyone more experienced with rendering got any idea why the flatsprite actors i use for blood decal (brown) render in front of corpses while brutal doom's blood splatters don't? afaik they're both just actors idk what i'm doing wrong
stray dagger
im making a wad for the first time, but i have no idea how to get the doors to work
im using slade btw
novel bramble
you need to make the door a sector, not a linedef
i don't know much slade but im 100% sure its around the same as udb
but yeah, you need to create a sector, lower the ceiling to the floor, grab one of the linedef from the door sector and give an action that makes it into a door then boom
slate maple
i would switch to UDB, 99% of users use that to learn, only slade if they want to make some small change (like testing monsters)
as for making a door, check out chubzdoomer on youtube
olive mirage
as for making a door, check out chubzdoomer on youtube
ye chubzdoomer is the goat, his tutorials on gzdoom cameras and strife dialogue helped me a lot
fickle bluff
okay one more since i just made it i promise i won't spam with it but check out some gameplay of BLOOM-- say does anyone know how to actually publish a mod
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEo4qEMHrm4
severe isle
onyx ice
Is there a guide on the type of secrets obsidian level generator makes?
ornate wraith
okay one more since i just made it i promise i won't spam with it but check out ...
I think like mod db
Or make a download on media fire or Google Drive or something similar and make a post somewhere with the link to download
fickle bluff
ohhhh yeah i've seen that site before, is that like the "main" hub for mods for Doom?
like nexus is to skyrim?
olive mirage
i’d say doomworld is the biggest one, it has both old and new wads but i dont know how to upload stuff
https://www.doomworld.com/files/
dreamy vortex
this wad is mostly a sprite replacement rather than a mappack, but i have changed entryway a little so it looks a bit like a train station in some areas
fickle bluff
ohhh i like those baron imps, where'd you get them? or are they part of your pack?
and on the changes to entryway – you went through it so quick I didn't see em :')
slate maple
closer to finishing up my megawad.
looking at kex conversion. not going to learn that, will have to pay commission. Anyone know where to go for that?
fickle bluff
have you tried the usual commission places like fiverr? they got pretty much everything i believe
they got guys in underwear to sing the national anthem, i'm sure they got someone for your thing too pepe_hehe_smug
whole blade
looking at kex conversion. not going to learn that, will have to pay commissio...
Conversion from what
novel bramble
like do you mean for mbf21?
that is practically what kex engine is
if your wad is udmf, its gonna be hard downgrading it to mbf21 due to many features being removed such as sector lighting etc.
but idk, never really looked at mbf21
slate maple
if your wad is udmf, its gonna be hard downgrading it to mbf21 due to many featu...
im researching all this still. I have been mindful of "features" in my megawad that will not work. Trying to create a gapreport or whatever you call it for everything.
slate maple
next project iwll be fantasy though, going to keep that megawad as simple as possible
tacit pilot
this wad is mostly a sprite replacement rather than a mappack, but i have change...
yea thats 90's alright.
novel bramble
secret map art. (any aphex twin fan here?)
proud tusk
Would be awesome for an optical illusion map
Just keep making strange, walkable walls like that and fake doors itd be awesome imo
Maybe I should try that out
slate maple
working on the final level for episode 6. Then its polish polish polish. ih ope to be done with this megawad finally this year
i also have to add a difficulty 6, which i guess i can go crazy with since its suppose to be chaos
fickle bluff
Guys i'm normally not the type to record with voice but i was so fucking giddy i couldn't contain it
royal wave
Good work
olive mirage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkOnyX0AvQ0
dayum that is very cool
vagrant bluff
Guys
I want to warn you
Is there any Mod in here?
There's a pedophile on the server who contacted me. I have chats and evidence.
fickle bluff
uh, i think you should make a ticket or something idk
knotty burrow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkOnyX0AvQ0
New subscriber
slate maple
anyone know of zombiefied wolfenstein sprites out in the wild? or should i frankensprite my own?
ornate wraith
Good lookin or goof bookin?
fickle bluff
Why you tag me in that
upper flame
Does anyone have a template autoexec.cfg file they can share?
Or a config ini file with each setting explained?
fickle bluff
Are you good
tacit pilot
badass
tacit pilot
Good lookin or goof bookin?
i think you should change the flats on the stairs, or atleast change the flats on the base floor
white cedar
wip on a map im making called horror hotel, anything i can improve?
novel bramble
are you trying to make gates?
thats not the way to do it, only put like one linedef, then put the gate texture on the middle texture box (for both front and back) then, you actually get good gates!
white cedar
im not trying to make gates
limber shell
Had a weird idea for a map (it's not for Phantom. Will post progress on that in a bit though, this is another project that's supposed to have more of the atmosphere of PSX Doom or Doom 64)
I was watching the movie Cube (1997) and figured something like that could be fun to try. Need to map it all out though
olive mirage
does anyone know if it’s possible to add new ammo types using dehextra?
hearty oxide
So I might have made a mod... This is more of a joke than anything. Kinda just learning how to use Slade is all.
pastel bane
Thought I should post this here, for those who are fans of Mechwarrior and Doom, my MechDoomer: Rebooted project, which I've been working on for quite a long time, was recently released. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f1R-VIE2zY
teal owl
👍
wise magnet
Guys, I am looking for a good map maker for Windows 10. I have heard about Ultimate Doom Builder but I've also heard people dog on it.
whole blade
Guys, I am looking for a good map maker for Windows 10. I have heard about Ultim...
The only reason to not use UDB is if you're on mac/linux
Other than that, it's arguably the finest level editor ever created
wise magnet
Other than that, it's arguably the finest level editor ever created
Gotcha.
whole blade
Between UDB and its precursors (GZDB, DB2) I probably have 20000+ hours using that editor
Is good
olive mirage
The only reason to not use UDB is if you're on mac/linux
the udb aur package has worked like a charm for me in linux, only problem was that it came with a shitty dark mode but i managed to disable it
pastel bane
Do they have a precompiled version now? Or is it still from source? Last time I setup UDB on Arch I had to build mono from scratch, took 3 hours on an i9 (although it is the laptop version).
olive mirage
Do they have a precompiled version now? Or is it still from source? Last time I ...
i think it still needs to be compiled locally since its a git package, but iirc downloading udb took a bit longer than mono for me
ornate wraith
Quick question, with GZDoom: Doom 2 (UDMF) - ZScript ACS, is there a way to delete corpses, and specifically just those in a certian sector
ornate wraith
https://zdoom.org/w/index.php?title=Thing_Remove
Ay thanks! It's works
whole blade
white cedar
Idk if the link sent, here's the full horror hotel map
hearty oxide
Does anyone have an idea what this midi actually is called from a doom mod I was playing.
I heard it in a doom mod I was playing. I did actually convert it from a midi to mp3.
wild girder
How good are stock images for skyboxes?
dreamy vortex
ohhh i like those baron imps, where'd you get them? or are they part of your pac...
i made them. i was trying to make something more similar to the demons that are in doom's poster
fickle bluff
awesome :)
dreamy vortex
thanks!
sage shuttle
are there any doom 64 styled hand sprites? like templates i can overlay guns onto
civic void
white cedar
Red-doom rampage
narrow laurel
pragmata bro
narrow laurel
second
tacit pilot
austere surge
pragmata bro
Can you make sprites dude?
narrow laurel
Can you make sprites dude?
No
pine pecan
I'm okay
I played a mod. Just one modded map. Nothing special right?
I picked the worst one I have seen.
And you don't know this, but I don't give up.
I beat Okuplok after 3384 tries...
And I will never play it again!
Anyways I need to take a break because... ouch.
Also I will never elaborate on this again becayse I'll forget about it later goobyee
storm storm
<@&162901871168585728>
visual geode
what was the message about?
whole blade
Spam
meager briar
Did anyone ever make a mod where you play as doomguy with all the doom weapons in redneck rampage? I know there's a mod for doom 2 where you play as leonard and have all the RR weapons.
visual geode
let me look for it
maybe it exists
maybe this is the mod you are looking for?
@meager briar
narrow laurel
Does anyone have the latest version of ACC?
I have version 1.60, but it doesn't allow me to compile certain functions. 😞
Maybe I don't know exactly how to install ACC.
Can someone help me?
whole blade
Does anyone have the latest version of ACC?
I have version 1.60, but it doesn't ...
UDB should have all that
meager briar
maybe this is the mod you are looking for?
That's a mod for RR that patches certain things. I'm talking about a replacer mod that replaces leonard and all the RR weapons with doomguy and all the doom weapons.
whole blade
Ultimate Doom Builder?
Ye. It comes with the compilers, which I think are fair to assume are up to date
UDB>Compilers>Zdoom for ACC
narrow laurel
Ye. It comes with the compilers, which I think are fair to assume are up to date
Thanks you
storm storm
<@&162901871168585728>
ornate wraith
is there a way to make movement in ZDoom feel more like wolfenstein 3d; ie stopping as soon as you stop holding down the move button, no sliding?
timber brook
Does any map makers like to help me and my friend on this huge doom project we are doing?
We need all the help we can
Just dm
whole blade
is there a way to make movement in ZDoom feel more like wolfenstein 3d; ie stopp...
Yes, but you have to code it yourself
As in, it's not just a menu setting
ornate wraith
Yes, but you have to code it yourself
So do I use like a dehack or something?
I don't really know where to start
whole blade
Decorate or zscript. You have to create a custom player class
I'm not sure of the specifics, but I know it can be done
ornate wraith
Decorate or zscript. You have to create a custom player class
I'll look more into it, thank you. I've never used zscript, just ACS in UDB. Hopefully it won't be too difficult (famous last words)
gloomy galleon
So pop quiz and maybe Age Check. Does this Doom screenshot remind you of anything? 🙂
lime jetty
So pop quiz and maybe Age Check. Does this Doom screenshot remind you of anythin...
Myst?
lime jetty
You got it - Stoneship age !
I thought so haha. Are you making a myst-inspired wad?
gloomy galleon
not me - I come from the Star Wars: Dark Forces community (May 4th and all that) - and we have a dev who also makes doom maps
lime jetty
not me - I come from the Star Wars: Dark Forces community (May 4th and all that)...
Anywhere I can keep up with the updates of the project? I’d love to walk through myst islands in doom
gloomy galleon
He may post it in the DF-21 discord offtopic channels . I have no idea if there is anything else myst related. It could be a one-off item
pine pecan
I should try to beat nuts
solid prawn
Guys
lime jetty
hi <@852735675341078528> I have more screenshots
Wow it’s looking amazing, thanks for sending
gloomy galleon
I can't post the discord link here - but just look for df-21.net - there is a link on the left.
Anytime mate 🙂
gloomy galleon
@royal wave hi it is not mine but one of our Dark Forces map makers who dabbles in doom. I can't post the discord link here but you can ask in #your projects channel on df-21.net
royal wave
chrome rock
joey Jordison
dusky wharf
nº1
lime jetty
waht does this mean?
Kanonenfieber
pallid jackal
Does anyone know how to get the wall to bring down the red key in level 5 vivisection of doom 2: no rest for the living?
royal wave
narrow laurel
novel bramble
ngl this fooled me for a bit
narrow laurel
ngl this fooled me for a bit
In what sense?
novel bramble
thought it wasn't doom or something
narrow laurel
Sorry, I don't understand your message
It doesn't translate well.
These are other captures
novel bramble
Sorry, I don't understand your message
no i mean like i didn't know this was classic doom
narrow laurel
Oh, right, it's Doom, using Zandronum
narrow laurel
no i mean like i didn't know this was classic doom
By the way, the mod is called Eternal Suffering, and it's based on the Death 4 Foretold mod.
and you can follow its development on YouTube 🙂
novel bramble
oooh, neato, thanks!
narrow laurel
whole blade
Is there any way i can combine mods?
Just load them together. Either select and drag onto the uzdoom icon, or use a launcher like zdl
Whether or not the mods are compatible together is a separate question. Zero guarantee that slamming mods together will work properly
narrow laurel
Is there any way i can combine mods?
Do not, under any circumstances, try to do what the boy told you.
Some mods must be loaded in a specific order to work.
Loading them all like that may cause errors.
It's better to use ZDL, always.
olive mirage
Do not, under any circumstances, try to do what the boy told you.
Some mods mus...
why not? sometimes is worth giving a shot… if it doesnt work then you’d have to use zdl or command line trickery
narrow laurel
Can you read? I've said it.
olive mirage
well yes, but you said to not do it under any circumstances like the whole computer is gonna explode if you load the mods wrong
narrow laurel
I suppose if someone doesn't know how to "load mods" it's because they're new to this; anyway, the worst thing for those people is vague advice.
We need to teach well.
olive mirage
ye that’s true
gloomy galleon
Hi is it allowed to post links to doomworld? My buddy finished a doom map collection.
@royal wave and @lime jetty the myst map is complete. It's part of a series. Not sure if I can link it here.
olive mirage
Hi is it allowed to post links to doomworld? My buddy finished a doom map collec...
i’ve seen a lot of people post doomworld or moddb links with no problems so i think he can
gloomy galleon
Ok thank you
Ok double checked the rules. I can't see anything about not posting doom links
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/158201-the-quiet-pelagian-7-map-wad-mbf21/ The myst map is called Flexible Demeanour.
whole blade
Doomworld links are fine
drowsy heath
there mod of wolfenstein what you guys recomend? beacause i am looking mods of wolfenstein
gloomy galleon
Are you asking for original 1992 wolf 3d mods?
lime jetty
something like it
Something like that? Do you mean you want doom mods that recreate wolfenstein in some way or mods specifically for wolfenstein 3d?
drowsy heath
Something like that? Do you mean you want doom mods that recreate wolfenstein in...
doom mods that recreate wolfenstein
gloomy galleon
doom mods that recreate wolfenstein
Without a doubt - THIS is what you are looking for --> https://www.moddb.com/mods/wolfendoom-blade-of-agony
It is a fantastic Doom mod based on Wolfenstein lore and assets.
drowsy heath
Without a doubt - THIS is what you are looking for --> https://www.moddb.com/mod...
Mean, something replaced the weapons and enemies of Wolfenstein.
gloomy galleon
ok but you asked for DOOM mods that recreate wolfenstein . Are you now asking for wolfenstein mods that replace enemies/weapons?
You want the same identical wolf 3d missions (identical level design) but running on a doom engine and with weapons/enemies updated with better Doom graphics ?
drowsy heath
ok but you asked for DOOM mods that recreate wolfenstein . Are you now asking fo...
Perhaps I was mistaken; I actually wanted a mod that replaces weapons and enemies vanilla to Wolfenstein
I apologize for not speaking correctly.
gloomy galleon
I think there is a language barrier. Do you want ...
- A DOOM mod that adds enemies/weapons from the game WOLFENSTEIN ?
2.A Wolfenstein mod that changes enemies/weapons to make them look nicer - better graphics ?
gloomy galleon
If #1 - I would try Blade of Agony mod I linked - otherwise try this --> https://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-wolfenstein-3d
Personally I think Blade of Agony is better but it is more of a story based/atmospheric mod than Brutal Wolf
olive mirage
<@&162901871168585728>
last garnet
Im finally speaking here again I've making a new doom wad this is map01
It uses freedoom textures my favorite.
queen parcel
I have a classic mod idea, I don’t have anyway to make said mod, nor any experience, so maybe someone here will pick it up.
It’s called BrooM
The idea is that you are a janitor who survived the first demon onslaught (somehow?? I dunno lore isn’t important) and you see the mess the Doomguy left, you clean up the original levels, in a power washing simulator type thing, scrubbing the gore away and such.
I’m not sure how well that would work in the classic doom engine, but y’all are smart.
The maps would be mostly the same, but are obviously open for changes, the music would be more chill and jazzy renditions of the original tracks.
If this has already been done, please let me know, I would love to see it. And if anyone uses this idea, please make any changes you think would make this better, thank you for reading!
trail void
I have a classic mod idea, I don’t have anyway to make said mod, nor any experie...
There’s a game on Steam called crime scene cleaner or something.
Obviously it’s not the same, and the appeal of your idea is the demon gore and gibs
I dunno
clever fox
where would you recommend I find good megawads and/or maps for DOOM 2
lime jetty
where would you recommend I find good megawads and/or maps for DOOM 2
Doomworld
They have a top 100 wads of all time list and the cacowards each year
clever fox
They have a top 100 wads of all time list and the cacowards each year
oh sweet
tender summit
where would you recommend I find good megawads and/or maps for DOOM 2
your pfp reminded me of an anime i just finished a few days ago
it was a quite bizzare adventure, but it was a golden experience nonetheless
clever fox
your pfp reminded me of an anime i just finished a few days ago
it was a quite b...
The shows like a diamond to me, kinda crazy, guess it’s a crazy diamond
tender summit
The shows like a diamond to me, kinda crazy, guess it’s a crazy diamond
yeah, and it's unbreakable too
exotic breach
hi! I just started making doom maps and I was just wondering, what is the best place to upload wads/a series of wads? like whats a good website?
whole blade
hi! I just started making doom maps and I was just wondering, what is the best p...
Depends what you're trying to achieve. Just somewhere to put them? Moddb is pretty good, or you can just use any free drive storage. To get people to play them? Start a Doomworld thread and then you can direct people from discord etc to that place
lime jetty
hi! I just started making doom maps and I was just wondering, what is the best p...
I think the standard place is the doomworld depository/archive
ocean sluice
Any recommendations on wads? I've played myhouse and the RAMP collection, but I want to extend my palette further.
whole blade
Any recommendations on wads? I've played myhouse and the RAMP collection, but I ...
Depends what you're after. Wads come in many flavours
ocean sluice
Any will do.
lime jetty
Any will do.
placid isle
Any recommendations on wads? I've played myhouse and the RAMP collection, but I ...
Golden Souls 1 and 2
last garnet
The wad i made is in here map02 isn't completely finished but you can only use freedoom phase 2 to try it out if you don't do that it will have a bunch of missing textures.
stable sun
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/127353-doom-ii-maps-of-chaos-map01-06-terror-edition-v39-wip/ wanna try old maps with something new?
languid raven
Hello 👋
minor hound
HEY GANG! made a map for doom 2
if wanyone wanna test it id be happy to send you the file
:D
<@&162901871168585728>
oop already gone :D
was a spam message
plush sapphire
Looks like Vega got it. Thanks anyway
minor hound
yw!
smoky axle
I'm making a classic doom deathmatch map where I'll be trying to combine aspects of all the doom games themes into one map kind of like realms/world's colliding and was wondering if anybody knows if there is like a texture I could find anywhere that I could add that I could use for like fissures/seams like this but glowing for example? I could put something like that on floors, walls, & ceiling to seperate areas that are from different doom games/themes. 🙂
minor hound
I'm making a classic doom deathmatch map where I'll be trying to combine aspects...
you could increase the brightness for the seams
minor hound
I have a classic mod idea, I don’t have anyway to make said mod, nor any experie...
its giving 7-S
smoky axle
you could increase the brightness for the seams
Honestly that might work, and I'm pretty sure UDB also supports colored lighting too, so I could make the "rifts" or "seams" a bright color, what color do you think would work best, in science fiction, any time I see rifts they're always different colors, so it's hard to tell, but since it's Doom and involves hell I'm gonna guess red or orange would propably suit best.
minor hound
Honestly that might work, and I'm pretty sure UDB also supports colored lighting...
I second that, orange is best color for
This i think
short harbor
Y'all should try out DN3DOOM
It's a mod that adds Duke Nukem 3d weapons and enemies to classic Doom while also enhancing the AI of the Doom enemies
You can even use the Shrinker to remove the evil spirit possessing the zombies so they'll fight with you
Just make sure they don't get hit by a Lost Soul again
novel bramble
if wanyone wanna test it id be happy to send you the file
i guess i can give it a shot
im not the best reviewer out there but eh
im bored
minor hound
i guess i can give it a shot
a lil late sorry
novel bramble
no worries
minor hound
i do have somtehting else you can test tho!
novel bramble
sure!
lethal iron
Hi folks. Is this pretty much the primary online discord location for classic doom modding? I recently got into it and have been looking for a discord specifically for it, rather than mod specific discords.
royal wave
It's a spot for classic doom modding, and there's a few of us who are knowledgeable on the craft, but there are better servers out there for it
astral jay
closer to finishing up my megawad.
dm me
fossil isle
Guys, where i can downloads mods for DOOM and DOOM ? I ask because im not used to mods for games.
On this channel counts DOOM 64 AND DOOM 3 as well? Just curious.
hard abyss
mapping in this game should be really easy thanks to snapmap
a bit like Trackmania for Doom?
steel onyx
~ignorechannel
tulip driftBOT
BooBot will now ignore [DOOM] / #mapping
whole bobcat
Gonna work on a Dead Simple remake next
You talking about setting doors to respond to certain keys? @sweet wedge
sweet wedge
has anyone messed around with snap-map, if so...how do you spawn the doors for keycards and stuff like that?
quasi parrot
well dont count on me, because i still have to fist time set up and get through the intro screens before i even start
whole bobcat
Let me check @sweet wedge
yeah
when you set up a door
in properties you can set what key is required
sweet wedge
is there a way to spawn a door?
whole bobcat
to my knowledge doors can only exsist between modules
sweet wedge
ah okay
so far im liking the snap map thing, pretty easy once you go through the basics..and the advanced isnt that needed, but can be helpful for later. So yeah i kinda feel at home, and it seems like the old halo forge mode....nothing like halo 5, that is way too complexed
tawdry briar
I'm really disliking it
no opprotunity for your own architecture
Ruins the fun and creativity in level design tbh
whole bobcat
I think its just fine honestly
Im not expecting something to replace the wild stuff you can see in original doom
but these tools are very powerful and bendy
wooden plume
So, I am having trouble with a Wave Event not spawning when I trigger it.
sweet wedge
anyone know how to keep a players inventory when they die on a snapmap map?
wooden plume
There should be an option with the "Gameplay Settings" object
sweet wedge
i love my map so far, its my first map so its not the greatest...nut man i love it
wooden plume
Oh cool, thanks. Actually works pretty well
wooden plume
Anyone know how the Gate Object works? I am trying to make it so when a single demon encounter AND a group encounter are killed, it will spawn a Miniboss event. But it doesnt seem to be working properly
I dont know if it's a bug with the Gate Object or I am doing something completely wrong
sweet wedge
finally gonna get my first map done today! 😄
wooden plume
Ooh cool, what kind of map is it?
sweet wedge
killing demons and stuff like that, just like a regular doom map i guess
it has some wave based and survival stuff in it as well
dawn saffron
dudes
sorry for butting in
but does anybody know how to check what team the player is in?
sweet wedge
nah sorry, never made a tdm type map yet
sweet wedge
i've only made one map and its the one i have been currently working on for the past 3 days lol, im just learning as i go...i only did the basic tuts...and might do advanced if i need extra knowledge
i wish you luck on your journey to find the answer you need 😄
dawn saffron
thanks 😄
sweet wedge
anyone know how to set points of interest?(poi)
radiant token
@sweet wedge there's an actual element called poi in the menu
sweet wedge
@OPTIMUSCRS thank you
quasi parrot
I had an amazing idea for an arena shooter style map last night. Gonna draw it out on paper and make it on snapmap tomorrow
dark bridge
We need some arena maps on ps4
quasi parrot
The maps are all cross platform
radiant token
I tried to rebuild q3dm6 as best as I could
sweet wedge
i built my first map by ideas floating around in my brain, but once that map kinda felled threw...its hard for me to come up with anything, so i might just jot down notes before i build..so i can have a basic layout of what i want
radiant token
GB97A5HK
If anyone likes to check it out. Nothing has been optimized tho, all just placeholders and shit
grand tulip
this leg sweep just doesnt work its pissing me off
grand tulip
srsly? no one knows? no video on yt on this shit?
grand tulip
show me
quasi parrot
Wait...why is this in mapping lol?
grand tulip
idk
native bridge
oh so I wasn't dumb I thought he really was talking about a mapping script lmao
quasi parrot
Lol
quasi parrot
All good
It's probably preferable to you since due to the rules, that question is require to be in spoilers
And you'd then see spoilers
But I'm pretty sure we're all chill here with it
radiant token
What's a leg?
dawn saffron
if you look down at your crotch and then look a little bit to the either left or right you will see a leg
radiant token
Oh wow
dawn saffron
your very own!
quasi parrot
Woah
radiant token
:/
quasi parrot
Spoilers please, I've never seen a leg
quasi parrot
Yo, someone who's into arena shooters, you wanna test out the map im gonna be making in the next coming days thats arena stylish?
I could use some pointers from people who actually paly arena shooters
wooden plume
I thought people playing DOOM was already into arena shooters
quasi parrot
I meant like MP Arena, considering people say its not using the cores of an arena shooter
wooden plume
I spent like 10hours on a map and now the logics wont work as they should
quasi parrot
well shiet
wooden plume
Like the Wave Event spawns 1 mob everytime another mob dies withing the event
wooden plume
Oh right
pale perch
@wooden plume If I understood ya right I think I worked out what you were attempting to do
There may be more efficient logic, but I used a counter instead of boolean. Both single demon and group demon encounters will send a signal to a counter (set to max count 2) to add +1 to the count when the encounter is over. When counter reaches 2, it will activate the mini-boss
pale perch
Had a go and got it to work using the AND gate too. Probably overly complicated for what you're doing 😛 It doesn't automatically output a signal when its values are changed, so you need each of the "on encounter finished" to send a "Test" signal. If values A and B test to be true, it'll send the output to the miniboss event
native bridge
nice
pale perch
In case anyone's interested, worked out a way to make an AI follow a player around the level: https://www.reddit.com/r/snapmap/comments/4jtcoz/making_an_ai_teammate_follow_player/d39wh3x
Can put player & AI on the same team, so it behaves as a kind of guard. Can add filters for players 1-4 so each person can have their own pet
quasi parrot
Id like to know too
I should be starting my map tonight, cause I think I'm almost done with the campaign
pale perch
You can add debris by going into the module and hitting they key for "Module Properties". (On PS4 it's triangle) From there you can set floor clutter, wall clutter, etc.
dawn saffron
oh, thank you!
btw, is there any way to share and play an unbublished map with friends?
pale perch
Np 😃 And nah I don't think so - that bugged me too. Hoping they patch it in later
Along with being able to bookmark maps without having to download them and having multiple players collabing on a map
dawn saffron
so true
dawn saffron
if anyone's interested
check out my map
7zkx23z3
it's not dm, not coop
you can play through it alone, but it will be boring
it's a competitive game mode
where you need to shoot object in the center of arena (consists of boxes and other props)
when you shoot it enough, it's your zone
two teams compete to have the zone
it can be confusing at first, i'm sorry
i'm working on it
wooden plume
If anyone is curious, I tend to stream snapmap
wooden plume
Oh yeah, I am currently working on a map. Dont know yet if it should be SP or Co-op
wooden plume
Well nvm
Every map I make gets fucking corrupted
so rip all those hours spent
Snapmap is so fucking buggy, jesus christ
gah now the game crashed on me
dawn saffron
snapmap has never crashed on me though
wooden plume
I might have found a reason why the snapmap actually stops properly working.
lapis hornet
@quasi parrot but when does the UN start
quasi parrot
So what's snapmap like?
wooden plume
idk you're about to try it out
dawn saffron
is there anyone who wants to test my map?
i need to see if the logic works the way i want it to
or wait
is there a way to change your team "on the fly"?
quasi parrot
I dunno, but I'll test it out
pale perch
You can set it to a button with the User Input object, or whatever it's called
Connect the User Input to a team proxy object
But yeah I'd be happy to test it otherwise
Is it the same one you posted earlier?
dawn saffron
oooooh
thanks a lot!
i already tested it with ghost 😃
it's a complicated thing that i did fuck up 😦
dawn saffron
but i just got a new map
quasi parrot
yeah, really not a fan of the setup of voice channels tbh, but you are right
dawn saffron
you wanna go now?
quasi parrot
sure. You wanna test out your map first or should i just work on learning snapmap?
quasi parrot
alright, sounds good then. I mean ive got a lot of time so
dawn saffron
prowler?
quasi parrot
sure, give me like 2 minutes so you dont have to hear all the background noise
gonna fix that real quick
dawn saffron
👍
quasi parrot
on a side note, you ever have your mouse just stop tracking in one direction for a bit?
i feel that its my mouse pad
dawn saffron
OH MY GOD TOTALLY
i have no idea why it happens
i thought something was wrong with the mouse :DD
quasi parrot
its been happening ever since i got this mouse
dawn saffron
or rather with the table
dawn saffron
@pale perch thanks a lot dude! works like a charm!
pale perch
Noice 😄
quasi parrot
Alright, after i go through the tutorials ill be starting on my first FFA map
pale perch
Cool, those tutorials and esp. the snap puzzles helped me to wrap my head around some complex stuff
Still trying to figure out some of the hard puzzles
quasi parrot
ah, alright. I imagine it wont be too complex because i want it to feel kind of like an arena shooter style FFA
im not even into arena shooters, which is why im gonna need testers to give me pointers on what to improve
calm crescent
Um
Well there's a 2 weapon limit on snapmap.
There's a clunky work around but sure.
quasi parrot
ill figure something out for how ill make it work
calm crescent
You can set weapons in places, that should work somehow.
calm crescent
^
pale perch
Just an fyi that there are tons of those arena style maps, and sadly most of them get buried 😦 unless you put some kind of cool twist on it
Or just plan on playing it w/friends
calm crescent
Dont worry
quasi parrot
likely just gonna be a friends/discord thing
calm crescent
He's got me :hearts:
quasi parrot
i just plan on making maps for the discord
dont care about the having a ton of people playing it aspect
proper shuttle
clunky snapmaps you guise
quasi parrot
it honestly seems pretty advanced once you look at it. Looks like it has some potential to it for being a built in map editor
proper shuttle
it is pretty good for a console map maker
but it is limited by geometry and enemy count
calm crescent
I've heard that forge was better than it as a map maker.
proper shuttle
i heard snapmap is better than forge
quasi parrot
I mean, in general for being a built in thing, its actually fairly impressive so far
easily better than forge
pale perch
That's cool, I'm up for giving it a go too 😃
proper shuttle
but you'll never make nuts.wad
calm crescent
I've used forge, snapmap's logic system beats it, as for actual Map making I'm not sure.
quasi parrot
id say in both aspects from experience so far
new forge is insanely difficult in halo 5
but before it was all minor prefabs on preexisting maps
proper shuttle
forge has open maps
calm crescent
Yea it was a lot of prefabs
proper shuttle
nuForge
snapmap doesn't have open areas
points for forge
some nerds made plants versus zombies witih forge
quasi parrot
problem with forge is that it isnt exactly cusomizable
atleast old forge
new forge could be, never fucked with it
proper shuttle
halo 5 forge at least?
proper shuttle
i'd say... doom 4 is doomed
difficulty isn't a issue if you can map fantastic maps in it
there's scripting in forge 5
and the prefabs aren't just rooms from what it appears, in addition to wide open areas
quasi parrot
True, but for smaller communities like us, there will be more kind of good maps compared to one or two good maps from one or two creators
to me its more the colalboration than anything
proper shuttle
and it'll be released on pc
i'd invest my effort on making some maps for old man doom
they figured how to do room over room maps
proper shuttle
old man doom map making uses bsp
which is a binary tree algorithm
its actually pretty cool after you learn programming
besides the way it handles rendering said maps
calm crescent
Fuckin old man.
quasi parrot
Drak is an old man tho
calm crescent
Hot
quasi parrot
I imagine drak as like a 40 year old man who still only plays doom. I know its not true, but its a fun thought ❤
calm crescent
Monsters also despawn after a certain range in snap map
calm crescent
Even hotter
proper shuttle
either way, forge and snapmap are still inherently limited
calm crescent
Imma slide into your PMs
proper shuttle
i was born in the year of our glorious doomguy
quasi parrot
Lol
I was born 4 years after, and my father still played it religiously at that time
proper shuttle
also microsoft is dumb
they're releasing forge on pc but not halo 5
how can you be so bad at gaining foothold
quasi parrot
i dont know
atleast we still have pc halo 3
huh...
feels like snapmap was made for more linear levels
a lot of stuff doesnt seem to like to snap together to make 3 enterances that are all tethered to one room
quasi parrot
is there any way to change the size of the rooms to make them snap together?
proper shuttle
hmm nope
that would require more effort
it isn't a matter of rescaling rooms
you can't just rescale models
quasi parrot
I understand that, but the options seem very limited in terms of creating open maps
proper shuttle
that's the issue
there's no open map support and it isn't likely to happen
thanks consoles i guess?
quasi parrot
i dont even think its the problem with the consoles
its the damn stupid dimensions they used for rooms and the uneven door placement thats getting me
quasi parrot
its really just the uneven door issues
it creates areas that arent possible to fill in with what theyve given me
its like needing a 1x4 lego but only having a 2x4 lego
shit like this
this isnt what im making btw, just for reference
but they dont have things that would even come close to being enough to bridge the gap in that area
even if i removed one
quasi parrot
lol
pretty much
i guess snapmap could be cool for challenges and shit, but making open ended DM maps looks like it might be out of the question unless im missing something major
proper shuttle
its pretty shit for serious mapping
quasi parrot
so far that seems pretty correct
proper shuttle
rather, any effort that produces good maps
can't even perfectly reproduce e1m1
it should've had an advanced mode
ie: mouse and keyboard mode with the ability to draw geometry
or something less sophisticated like tiles
instead of prefabs
proper shuttle
noice
proper shuttle
it doesn't have portals, right?
quasi parrot
multifloor is what killed my first attempt
proper shuttle
there's a lot of floors but you can barely do things
quasi parrot
multifloor is likely out of the question on making open ended stuff
i mean the prefabs have decent weapon spots atleast
proper shuttle
its going to run out of steam in uh
quasi parrot
i might be able to make something out of it
proper shuttle
i think in a couple months
quasi parrot
i give it 4-5
proper shuttle
if the prefabs packs are good, it might last a little longer
quasi parrot
maybe the new prefabs in the dlc will help, but that also locks content out for others
proper shuttle
but it ain't holding a candle to good mapmaking
supposely the prefabs might be free?
but who knows
quasi parrot
if so then that will be great
i dont see why not come to think of it
maybe just being able to play the maps that have the prefabs, but not use them without dlc
that would atleast not split the community
also, the freecam is way too damn slow
-1 point for no cam speed change
quasi parrot
you know what would be cool
being able to add platforms through the object placement
proper shuttle
ha
haha ha ha
that would totally go against the whole accessibility thing they got going here
quasi parrot
how so?
i could put a platform under stairs in a lava room to leave an item on
would require mobility and timing so you dont get raped by another player
proper shuttle
also prefabs
it would require prefabs
this is a 3d game, any geometry features you want, require time and effort to produce
i guess they haven't learned that it is impossible to produce anything due to megatextures
it requires megatextures to do anything
and shit, that ain't cheap
and those people in the comments are fucking idiots aaaa.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Doom/comments/4k2l8z/petition_for_id_software_bethesda_to_add_mod/ fucks sake people
this is not how making games work
you can't even replicate the mp maps
clear crane
People think it's just "tick a box and WE HAVE MOD SUPPORT"
proper shuttle
the manpower for this has increased exponentially
clear crane
there's no way id wouldn't put in mod support unless there is a good reason
proper shuttle
there's no business in these tools because we can't use it anymore
its too time consuming to even make anything
clear crane
and tbh it doesn't seem like an engine that's easy to mod either
proper shuttle
when the tools for rage were released, nobody ever did a thing with it
uh it is a engine that's easy to mod
except that making good maps is impossible
shit looks like arse
you got a thing like unreal tournament 4, but there aren't many AMAZING maps
rather
very few maps
clear crane
the comments on that petition thread omfg
some people g et it
a lot don't
they all seem to think that id made SnapMap instead of mod support
wasn't SnapMap outsourced?
proper shuttle
the only reason that classic doom thrives is that it isn't an herculean effort to produce maps
and it was
but i guess the assets were outsourced
the prefabs
clear crane
and people also seem to think that mod support will instantly create awesome mods
proper shuttle
because the code was allegedly by carmack
lol no
look at all these games with mod support that have no cool mods
clear crane
The obvious one people point to is Skyrim, but Skyrim took YEARS to get any good mods
clear crane
that too
proper shuttle
nor they require a render farm to use
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the cool mods came in later
quasi parrot
they dont really happen in fallout 4
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fallout 4 is that limited?
clear crane
it's the same engine isn't it
quasi parrot
i think the engine might be the issue, but that might be speculation, i have no hard proof
its an edited skyrim engine
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same engine
but a newer revision
its never a edited skyrim engine
they're part of a line of engines
a revision of gamebryo
quasi parrot
my bad, im not really into understanding how these engines work
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its still pretty shitty and has the same tools
quasi parrot
ill take your word for it
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it has the same exact tools
it behaves the same way
bar revisions
and it has the same fucking physics bugs encountered in every game running it
all the same silly bugs
it also has a propensity to crash due to excessive data in save files
the same bugs in every game
clear crane
The main thing is is that the level design of Doom is not anything like the originals
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also coding engines is pretty damn hard
clear crane
the originals it was "make geometry then paint it with textures"
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but these are bugs that should've been fixed ages ago
clear crane
Doom isn't like that
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i'm fairly sure source ports have enabled greater complexity in this aspect
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lol why source engine games
that's basically every game tho
paint textures on model, apply shaders
i don't see the difference
clear crane
The source engine is very similar to the original doom one
clear crane
which isn't surprising considering GabeN was who ported Doom to windows
clear crane
I never played quake so idk
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this is not how it works
clear crane
but in the source engine you make geometry then paint the faces with textures
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goldsrc was based on quake and then source was based on goldsrc
clear crane
you make geometry, apply textures, put in props
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also lmfao
there is also shaders and lighting
don't forget that
its also like this for other video games
not just doom lol
clear crane
idk much about other engines tbh so
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then pls stop???
clear crane
fuck me for offering my opinions?????
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them's bad opinions??????
quasi parrot
aye
no such thing as a bad opinion
just a bad mindset
like that one guy who refused to believe anything but doom is good
anything that isnt doom rather*
quasi parrot
yeah, form yesterday
clear crane
you mean the 2005 Doom 3 Champion?
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he won a bunch of doom 3 tournaments
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quake 4 was a sad non thing
you can edit things on discord
it isn't irc 😦
it lacks the charm
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bfg was a loss
quasi parrot
i mean i dont know how it performs in MP so
plush zenith
Not as well as gauss in my experience.
quasi parrot
well no bfg then, cause i already have a gauss
plush zenith
It definitely doesn't earn the title with its mp implementation
quasi parrot
I think im in love with this logic editing bullshit
anyways, i have a rough draft of my map so to speak if anyone is interested
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learn programming, it owns
