classic-doom-maps-mods

[last garnet]

I know its very red but every time i kept trying to use marble i just couldn't make it look good i mean i made it look good in map04 but i honestly just like red brick more

[tough fiber]

nvm my phone doesn't recognize them

I thought putting .png on the end would resolve it but no

(I have to download these to my phone because my wifi is borked rn)

ok fixed it we good

[robust spear]

more dev screenshots

[last garnet]

can't wait for the midi

[last garnet]

Honestly a freedoom wad thats like almagoom would be amazing because how good the first and second phase are

[tough fiber]

apparently doom 0.3 alpha's pinkies had more frames in their idle animation

sorry, the doom tech demo, not the alpha

[livid sentinel]

kinda shitty but cool idea i had

or at least the base idea.

[last garnet]

map06 is still the end

[livid sentinel]

opened this up not realising i had the Doom 64 sound font loaded

[livid sentinel]

@last garnet bit of a difficulty spike at the end but i love it. did you make any of the custom assets/music?

[last garnet]

It uses the ultimate midi pack and the custom enemies are from the eviternity dehacked

[livid sentinel]

intresting, great work none the less. if you upload it to ModDB ill add a review

[robust wave]

Is there other way to progress in map03? Only the secret seems to lead to the other side.

[last garnet]

No

[robust wave]

Oh damn

[last garnet]

Yeah i didn't know where i would put another route

Map05 was definitely the more weirder level i made

[robust wave]

Was that corridor meant to be a rocket jumping parkour?

[last garnet]

Yeah it was to get a super shotgun more rockets and a plasmarifle if you pistol started

[last garnet]

This sounds amazing

[storm charm]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/dark-ages-deathmatch/downloads/dark-ages-deathmatch-v1101

[tough fiber]

you've put my talents to shame.

[tough fiber]

if I can get this 3d modeling thing figured out I'll be on fire with my mod

[iron delta]

https://youtu.be/f-qFHF4kPYU?si=PjJPDGFEyHaF0s5A

[last garnet]

the final trial this one will be the hardest which is why you need 2 keys before you reach it

[tough fiber]

the majority of the textures you're seeing here are unused textures from doom beta builds

I think the only stock Doom II texture that's visible in this picture is the darker concrete on the floor

[last garnet]

the blue key arena the difficulty spike in this whole level

the lava comes down after you kill the mancubus but the thing is i gave it more health

[last garnet]

this map is actually hard

[last garnet]

full map there is just 1 more thing left to do

Actually that is the final area the map is fully done now i think i haven't actually tested it yet

[tough fiber]

I need to do more stuff like this where you're dropped into an area that surrounds you with monsters

usually my maps are just "clear the room, get the shit, save during the downtime, open the door, repeat"

[last garnet]

i might post this on mod db as a little demo kinda thing

my mod db name to find it just put jacob____hoven thats the name

[tough fiber]

what would you suggest I do about my mod? the pk3 is too big to send over discord now

[last garnet]

maybe use a file compressor idk

[olive mirage]

you could make it a 7zip instead, then rename the file extension to .pk7
ive never tried it but apparently it saves more space at the cost of a bit more loading time

[tough fiber]

the only issue with that is how oppressive the file size limit is on discord

that better be doing a real good job compressing my mod cos I'm pretty sure this thing is close to 40mb now

I'd dump it in a google drive but vega would more than likely have issues with that

[last garnet]

map07 hell to pay its gonna be a toxic refinery

[last garnet]

changed a few things

[tough fiber]

e1m3...

[last garnet]

It's gonna be more inspired by e2m4 i guess it could be that to

the new area

[robust spear]

This, like, took 10 minutes to make. Much easier amalgam track than I thought

[haughty flower]

New 45 longslide sprite for my Terminator doom mod

[last garnet]

This is honestly amazing i love your midis

[last garnet]

more pics of map07

[last garnet]

more pics

[robust spear]

Thank you ^^

[tough fiber]

I need to figure out what I wanna do to sprite the back end of the Devastator...

[robust spear]

Map05

[novel bramble]

oh yeah, its all coming together

still too lazy to screenshot ✌️

[novel bramble]

ooooh

whats this for?

[last garnet]

I think map06 might just be the finale level for the wad

[last garnet]

Wow looks cool

[novel bramble]

its supposed to be like a mineshaft or something!

[robust spear]

the humble (windows)+(crtl)+(s)

[novel bramble]

yeah....

[whole blade]

F12 to screenshot in doombuilder

[novel bramble]

didn't know udb has a screenshot feature

but still, i was mostly kidding around, i just wanted to post it fast and stuff

[summer wolf]

tip: press Ctrl+F12 to just take a screenshot of the 3D view

just pressing F12 you'll also get the whole window not just the relevant area

[tough fiber]

so the limit is 4

it also occurs to me that these look more like doom 64 weapons

[whole blade]

Ctrl f12 removes the menu bars

[tough fiber]

so glad the gmod models had rigs for this stuff too

[last garnet]

Looks like a doom64 item

[tough fiber]

they both do

I think it's because of the process I used

[last garnet]

map01

[last garnet]

more pics of map01

[tough fiber]

the council of chaingunnners is deciding your fate

[trail void]

Live footage of Microslop board meeting

[tough fiber]

can anyone spot the secret door

[tough fiber]

is it just me or are spectres completely fucking useless when you're mapping for source ports?

I get if you're doing it in ports where the graphics are similar to the original game and the fuzz effect hides them better but (at least in gzdoom) spectres are just pinkies with half opacity and it just seems pointless

like just use the stealth pinky cos they're actually invisible

[whole blade]

This is a setting in gzdoom. The issue (if you think it exists) is on the player side

[tough fiber]

is it not the default though?

[mint elbow]

does anyone know what I'm doing worng?

[whole blade]

If you want spectres to be a threat then you need to use them in low light conditions, or combat set ups that have a lot of visual noise. Then it doesn't matter what render setting is being used

[mint elbow]

I tried making a quick map with some custom textures and when tested via gzdoom it just replaces them all with this checker thing

[tough fiber]

does it look right in doom builder

[whole blade]

Your textures aren't loaded

[mint elbow]

in the editor yes

[whole blade]

What are you doing to test the map

[mint elbow]

saving it as a wad and running it with gzdoom

[whole blade]

You haven't loaded your textures then

[mint elbow]

how do I do that?

[whole blade]

Press f9 from doombuilder

When you've finished mapping you will need to compile your resources with your maps

But while you're working doombuilder can manage it for you

[mint elbow]

i tried that and I get this message every time

takes me to a menu where I have no idea what to select ;-;

[whole blade]

F6 to configure your ports for testing

[tough fiber]

oh I didn't know there was a keybind for that, I just did edit > map options > ok

[whole blade]

Even better, ctrl f9 will launch the map place the player start where your map cursor is

[tough fiber]

incredible, I didn't realize it started the map at first and assumed it just reloaded the resources

[tough fiber]

I later found that f2 + enter does the same thing

[whole blade]

F8 is reload resources

Worth going into the key config and just looking at everything

There's a bunch of useful stuff that doesn't have a default key bind

[tough fiber]

mm

[tough fiber]

learned that (kinda) when I learned how to create slopes

[whole blade]

Yeah a lot of the slope handle stuff isn't bound

[tough fiber]

how do I assign a damage type to a hitscan attack?

[tough fiber]

how well-versed are you in zscript?

(sorry to bother you btw)

[whole blade]

Very minimally (and no worries, happy to help where I can)

@royal wave is a bit of a dab hand with zscript

[tough fiber]

this is one of two questions I had

the other was, how would I track when an item is picked up? there isn't an event handler for it

[whole blade]

I can set up basic actor definitions but that's about it. My forte is level design.

[tough fiber]

I see

[tough fiber]

I ask because I need something to happen whenever certain pickups are grabbed by the player

... under certain conditions

[royal wave]

Pickup Scripts are a bit finicky, but not impossible. What are you trying to do?

[tough fiber]

basically this:
when monsters die in my mod, they drop bone pickups based on their health (it's very satisfying to kill a big enemy for this reason because they explode into bones), and bones are used for upgrades as well as ammo for one specific weapon.
since upgrades are simply just inventory items in my mod, I wanted something that has a chance to heal the player by a small amount when they pick up a bone, but only if they possess the relevant upgrade

so in short, I need something that can heal the player when they pick up a certain item, if they have a certain item

[royal wave]

That's actually pretty simple to accomplish. Is the project already built on zscript?

[tough fiber]

yes

[royal wave]

Cool! So the goto function I like to use for conditional inventory effects is TryPickup

There's several inventory functions and due to dehacked it's a clusterfuck, but TryPickup has been the most reliable?

[tough fiber]

hmm

[royal wave]

Anyways. From there, you can get the player pointer and use findInventory or CountInv to check if the player has the item in question

[tough fiber]

I'll see what I can do with that.
This is why I was kind of hoping there was just an event handler that returned the player who picked up the item so I could just run whatever checks I needed from there

[royal wave]

Nah. No item pickup handler

Oh yeah forgot to mention: TryPickup is an Inventory function, you'll want to modify it in your bone class

[tough fiber]

went to the wiki page on it

it says I shouldn't call the function directly

[royal wave]

No. It gets called automatically when an actor attempts to pick up an item

It returns a bool. False if the item can't be picked up, true if it can.

Usually my approach is

let result = super.TryPickup(toucher);

if (result)
{
//do stuff
}

return result;

[tough fiber]

is this accurate?

Class Bone : Ammo {
  // bla bla original code

  override bool TryPickup(Actor a) {
      if (a.CheckInventory("MarrowSuckerUpgrade")) {
      int HealRoll;
      HealRoll = Random(1, 5)
      if (HealRoll == 1) {
        a.GiveBody(2);
      }
    }
  }
}

[royal wave]

Close! Issue with that is it's going to execute on anything that gets close to it. Put the block you have here in the snippet I gave and it'll be solid

[tough fiber]

ok

[last garnet]

map02

[tough fiber]

can proper mazes do well in a good map or would they become unfun and annoying

[haughty flower]

New sprites for the 45 longslide

[tough fiber]

yeah but I wanted mine centered like the lord intended

[storm charm]

right. respect.

also doom 64 style. based. 😄

[tough fiber]

that was on accident

the frames were rendered directly from the model and I didn't light it properly

[storm charm]

i recently updated my mod, it's currently in beta. i originally used a mod that had centered sprites, but for the 2.0 i wanted to make it feel more like the original game. i took frames of gameplay footage of a youtube video, and made aninmations of them.

[storm charm]

still looks really cool

[tough fiber]

ya

[storm charm]

i used another mod with centered sprites as a base, now im making my own graphics with gameplay footage

[tough fiber]

where did you get these sprites

[storm charm]

\

[tough fiber]

no I mean the centered ones

or were they placeholders

[storm charm]

as for the original sprites, they where centered, and they used the "dark ages weapon pack" made by TheCatMask over on MODDB as a base

[tough fiber]

oh! nice

[storm charm]

i heavily modified the code in that mod to have all shield mechanics , including block, dash, parry, and parry dash.

uses DECORATE no ACS no ZSCRIPT

all compatible with online deathmatc, for ZANDRONUM

i've added like, 100 lines of code to each base weapon from that mod, along with the code from Craneos SheildSaw

XD

[tough fiber]

the decorate stuff is fine, I'll convert that

[tough fiber]

gah

[storm charm]

that's all decorate, one actor

[tough fiber]

I don't know how decorate works really, all I know is it's the old way of doing things and zscript does stuff easier

[storm charm]

although, DECORATE is technically less optimized, it's still just as powerful in a lot of ways and has advantages: Compatibility.

it can be used in ZANDRONUM and UZDOOM alike, and be made with DeathMatch online multiplayer, along with make singleplayer experiences.

although with High level Decoratre, you'll be seeing more lines of code.

and there is alot of hacky stuff with the code, and workarounds

each language and engine or sourceport has it's advantages and limitations; depends on what your trying to do.

[tough fiber]

I'm probably just gonna stick with whatever works for my current version of gzdoom, which itself is probably outdated given I got it before the controversy that lead to the creation of uzdoom

[storm charm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lehYM9c40pI

[tough fiber]

I wonder what the thought process was behind the names of certain wall textures, like why is this called SLADWALL? what the hell is a slad? did they predict the existence of slade?

or why is this called SHAWN2? why are these textures called SHAWN(x)? who tf is shawn?

I'm asking about this here cos I can't send images in classic doom channel and cos this also discusses naming conventions for assets

[novel bramble]

shawn green

is one of the developers of doom

[tough fiber]

bro got a whole ass set of textures named after him

[novel bramble]

im making it up tho, i actually dont know

but it is most likely that

[tough fiber]

wheres my JROMERO1, -2 and -3 texture

[novel bramble]

eh, theres only shawn lol

i actually really like SHAWN

cool textures and stuff

also i think you can copy the image text and paste it

[tough fiber]

@royal wave I think I did it wrong

aw fuck he just went offline

oh hi

[royal wave]

Yeah that's pretty wrong, lol

[tough fiber]

it wasn't exactly clear to me what you meant

by just put my stuff in your stuff

[royal wave]

I'm on my phone give me a second

[tough fiber]

bro what

tried to paste my code block here and vega shot it down

[royal wave]

Class Bone : Ammo {
  // bla bla original code

  override bool TryPickup(Actor a)
{
let result = super.TryPickup(toucher);

if (result)
{
    if (a.CheckInventory("MarrowSuckerUpgrade")) {
      int HealRoll;
      HealRoll = Random(1, 5)
      if (HealRoll == 1) {
        a.GiveBody(2);
      }
}

return result;
}
}

[tough fiber]

"line 542: Attempt to override non-existent virtual function TryPickup"

[royal wave]

What is your line 542

[tough fiber]

override bool TryPickup(Actor a) {

[royal wave]

I keep forgetting this. It needs to be trypickup(in out Actor a)

And don't forget to replace toucher with a

[tough fiber]

ok

[tough fiber]

already did that

[tough fiber]

I should scatter some health bonuses in there too

[last garnet]

new version of map02 atlantic base

[last garnet]

Average pluntonia level

[tough fiber]

real

I put an invuln sphere in the doorway

[last garnet]

Now if you want it to be like tnt just switch them out for revenants

Imagine being a uac worker and accidentally walking in that room they would become powder

[storm charm]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/dark-ages-deathmatch/downloads/dark-ages-deathmatch-v20-beta-1-public

[tough fiber]

yea you get shot by so many things at once that you literally get pinned to the wall

when testing with an arsenal obtained from previous levels I was forced to use the bfg just because of the sheer number of them

map09 also introduced my can of coke as a healing item

reusable healing that you can fill up by grabbing more cans

[tough fiber]

ripped these from the doom 0.5 alpha

[tough fiber]

did this on accident and I'm fucking keeping it

is there a way to make projectiles do a fuckload of knockback without cranking the damage

[last garnet]

first part done

[last garnet]

map02 when you find the red key and the ssg they are just for testing but map01 is the only thing done

[tough fiber]

rough machine gun concept, might look cleaner with texture offsets

[tough fiber]

I have 2 ways I can go with this new weapon I created...

This thing 3-shots a baron

The first way I can go is making a traditionally-balanced level and I make the ammunition for the weapon and its maximum pool size fairly restrictive.
Alternatively I supply it with the same amount of ammo as any other weapon and turn the alt path maps into something leaning towards what you'd see in a slaughter wad.

[tough fiber]

main path weapon roster

[tough fiber]

beeg shotgun

[last garnet]

map02 is pretty fun the first building is done

i changed the sky but its done if anyone wants to try

[robust wave]

Sir, the enemy is in that direction.
Got it, removing that direction.

[limber shell]

I have a WAD but it's very much unfinished. Map 1 is almost done (it's supposed to take place in a funeral home. Think PS2 Punisher for this one.) Map 2 is just Cyberdemon ass and an exit (it's a placeholder until I finally get an idea for this) and Map 3 is a Library. I'll post the WAD when home. I mainly want feedback on the first level

As for the name I'll either name it "Phantom" or "A Dangerous Meeting"

[storm charm]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/dark-ages-deathmatch/downloads/dark-ages-deathmatch-v20

ok 2.0 is out now.

[bright badger]

i talked in #general about an alternative version of E4M8, here are some screenshots. Do you have some tips?

[last garnet]

no but i can say its cool looking

[bright badger]

in the first screenshot (the one with the evil eye in the fire) i inspired from that Korax faces in Hexen

[storm charm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MB6qgZBf2x0

[tough fiber]

I need to do one of those for my mod

[tough fiber]

ok the cross pattern in the ceiling is awesome, I'll be taking inspiration from that

[bright badger]

good to know

[last garnet]

What's going on with that city looking map

Like theres just a white ceiling not connected to anything

[tough fiber]

my guess is it's either unfinished or they forgot to put the sky texture over it

[tough fiber]

anyone else wondering what the BFG 2704 was gonna look like

(that was the alpha version of the bfg we know, before the particle vomit beta version)

[last garnet]

Why did you repeat what you said

[bright badger]

Yea, i forgot to put the sky texture. That city part is the final zone

[mint elbow]

can somebody help and tell me why the right music isn't playing?

[haughty flower]

finally, the shotototogun

[robust wave]

Did you put map definition into the SNDINFO?

[mint elbow]

you're looking at what I have in SNDINFO

[robust wave]

Put map definition into MAPINFO file, that's where the info about maps is put

[mint elbow]

idk if I'm doing it right but yeah I have it I think

[robust wave]

You need to put music here too

[mint elbow]

ah

okay thanks

holy shyte it worked thanks king

[mint elbow]

how do I change the music in the end level result screen?

[robust wave]

map MAP01 "Mapname"
{
Intermission
Intermusic = "musicname"
}

[mint elbow]

in mapinfo or sndinfo?

[robust wave]

sndinfo is for sound definitions, don't put anything map related there

[tough fiber]

what's different about it? isn't it just faster?

[bronze coral]

? wdym? this is in srb2

[tough fiber]

I don't even know what that is

[bronze coral]

sonic fangame built under doom legacy

[tough fiber]

oh

[tough fiber]

anyone else think doom should've had breakable decorations?

[storm charm]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/dark-ages-deathmatch/downloads/dark-ages-deathmatch-v22

updated

[robust wave]

Brutal Doom has them

[tough fiber]

ah nice

[robust wave]

Coloured sectors go brrrr

[tough fiber]

true

how many custom textures did you need for those vehicles

[robust wave]

Like one big texture

Well more like 4

[tough fiber]

what are these guys from?

[last garnet]

Heretic

So you know the barriers move down to reach the final area i made this mini version of them that also move down

[tough fiber]

what are they called? "knight" only gives me an undead guy from heretic

[olive mirage]

im pretty sure thats the cleric from hexen

[tough fiber]

hm.

nothing comes up when I search that either

[olive mirage]

this doom wiki link has some pictures
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Parias

found the base sprite in the hexen iwad, though in your picture he's holding a different weapon and his cape is colored differently.. maybe it comes from a mod?

[tough fiber]

yeah I thought he held a bow by default

I think the green is because it's made for a palette translation, it's red in the zdoom wiki logo

[olive mirage]

oh yeah, that makes a lotta sense

[tough fiber]

coincidentally it also holds that mace thing

[rich arrow]

Is it difficult to begin making maps for classic doom?

[tough fiber]

not in the slightest

maps are the easy part

it's every other part of modding that's more complicated

just don't copy tnt evilution's philosophy of "draw lines in a CAD program and throw some demons into it"

[rich arrow]

Requires more thought than that.

[tough fiber]

right

[rich arrow]

When I was a young kid in the late 90s I think I tried it out but moved to source and Quake a little bit more.

I don’t think the tools were as easy or something. No idea what editor to use now.

What’s the go to @tough fiber ?

[tough fiber]

ultimate doom builder

[tough fiber]

I can't imagine how hard it must've been back then

(I literally can't, I wasn't alive then)

[rich arrow]

okay can i use the game version on steam? or do I need a port of some kind?

[tough fiber]

I don't have doom on steam so idk, I have a mildly old version of gzdoom from before uzdoom existed and that's my default for testing stuff

so maybe it works if you set up the steam version as the editor's test program but idk

[last garnet]

actually you can it will work

[lethal garden]

are any of the AIs like chatgpt useful at generating zscript?

[robust wave]

He's helpful sometimes to be honest, but I haven't tried any alternatives.

[lethal garden]

I spent ages asking chatgpt and grok for sample code of how to do stuff in zscript, nothing they give me ever runs properly, only thing that works is looking at working code from other people's mods

[robust wave]

Very true, clankers can do basic shit

But it's better to learn what all that shit in the code does yourself

[novel bramble]

what happened to learning it yourself??

i know its a passion project and that it doesn't matter but still

[robust wave]

Hard

And lazy

[novel bramble]

if its harder then it be so much more rewarding to get it right then

[robust wave]

Probably the best use for them is to not write the entire code, but instead to try it yourself and if it doesn't work then look at zdoom wiki, if still doesn't work then ask the clanker, and at last best source is real people

Learning on mistakes is the best use probably

[novel bramble]

yes!

you can still look up tutorials and such

[tough fiber]

how many of you use d64-style coloring in your maps?

I mainly use it (if possible) for dark bottomless pits

or sometimes to create colored floors/ceilings

[tough fiber]

CEIL5_1 and a recolored FLAT19 are a good way to create roads and parking lots

hang on let me test my suspicion

thought so

[novel bramble]

huh why are messages deleted

[tough fiber]

I managed to reply to vega before it deleted itself

[novel bramble]

oh

[tough fiber]

did a little experiment, I posted a link to the google drive main page to see if it would delete it and, as expected, it did

which means I need to find a better way to share my mod

[slate maple]

mapped all day yesterday. Final campaign, most of the final monsters added. hopefully i can finish soon

[last garnet]

I actually made an entire level using it for an old wad

[tough fiber]

I wish I could do that

perfectly able to but can't

[slate maple]

it can be hard to get out of "builders block". at least that is my issue. but once i figure out eh level flow, its a addiction

[tough fiber]

it isn't a block it's the fact that I'm literally not allowed to

I live with my family and they disallow extended pc usage in one day

I'm debating whether my maps should be more open or not

[slate maple]

do both

i have linear maps, mazes, backtracking maps and open maps with multiple wayts to get keys

[sacred furnace]

Most fair keycard placement

All seriousness I love this mod, hate how hard it is

Even if I manage to duck behind a wall two more arch-viles also spawn in those two adjacent rooms as well as cacodemomons
Yay....
This is going to take a long time to master

[stray marsh]

what is this? looks so nice

[last garnet]

It was gonna be a thing I was making but i realized otex has to much textures and it was gonna end up being to big to put in this server

[tough fiber]

what, like the pk3 file?

I have that issue currently

[last garnet]

Since i merged all the textures with my wad

It made it to big of a file

[tough fiber]

I've come to the realization that my maps are too linear

and I'm not following the Romero Rule™ of balancing tight and open spaces very well

[last garnet]

Real

When it comes to mapping i do it for fun and to see what people think i should change thats why i make so much maps the biggest thing i finally started learning is the door problem of just having enemies in a room facing the door so for every part of the whole map your door fighting

[novel bramble]

you can upload these to doomworld you know

and send the link here and such

[novel bramble]

yeah, i feel like more monster closets and traps are kinda needed

i don't mind door fighting but yeah

[bright badger]

Howdy! Here's a playable version of my alternative version of E4M8. The level is short bcoz is a prototype. Tell me what you think about

[bright badger]

wich alternative version of a Doom/Doom II level i do next?

[robust wave]

That's extremely short

Even too short to properly rate it as an alternate final map of ultimate doom

[shell gorge]

is this doom in vr???

[sacred furnace]

Ye

[novel bramble]

wdym

[whole blade]

https://andrewyoderdesign.blog/2019/08/04/the-door-problem-of-combat-design/

[bright badger]

The map is still a prototype. It's unfinished. I want to add more in future

[whole blade]

It's possibly the greatest single document written about level design

[robust wave]

When I look at my proudest map designs they either have absolute door problem or they have none of it

Like barely any in between

Nah, my maps are mix of all

[whole blade]

I mainly use doors to single progression points (eg key doors) or to signify transitions between areas

I also work hard to make my doors Cool As Fuck ™

If I'm gonna put 'em in I'm gonna make them epic

[robust wave]

I spam doors. Usually because it makes sense for the location to have doors.

[whole blade]

Realism is the death of fun

Everything you put in your doom level (or game) should be there for a clear design purpose

[robust wave]

Tho I also really like the kind where you're walking through a very long location, like a canyon, a city road, a tunnel and so on.

Makes them specifically spicy if you have allies with you or are in a vehicle

I love Brutal Doom tanks

[whole blade]

This is solved by having more cohesion between areas. Instead of having a series of rooms linked by corridors, have a canyon with a building at the end that the player enters and has windows that they can look back through to see where they've come from. The building could be visible from a distance creating a visual goal for the player to move towards

[robust wave]

And tanks in general

[whole blade]

Etc and so forth

What's the story that your map telling

Changes in height are great for creating a sense of progression. The classic ascending a tower or descending down a pit

Environmental story telling doesn't always mean telling a literal story.

[robust wave]

So that's why Endless Madness is the peakest

[whole blade]

Sure fucking can

[novel bramble]

how powerful is it jesus

it does 3000+ damage??

[novel bramble]

makes sense

[gusty sinew]

Anyone on PS5?

[last garnet]

Lol another server im in has a play testing room and sent this same thing i actually read through it and i think i got better with enemy placement i hope

[whole blade]

Depends on what your other animations look like. Consistency is the only thing that really matters

[last garnet]

I have the perfect idea for a wad so its gonna be like doom 1 progression were every 8 maps ends on a boss
And there will be 32 maps map32 will be the icon of sin map24 will be the spidermastermind map16 will be the cyberdemon and we know map08

The thing is i like to do the end text and everything in slade before actually making the maps imo doing the hard stuff first is so much more easier than doing maps and slade at the same time

[whole blade]

You can look at the frame tics on the original animations. Keep it closeish to that

[last garnet]

so map01 is supposed to be based off a water facility i think this looks cool water facility's are real

[last garnet]

wow im good at outside parts

I noticed im better at hell levels and outside levels than indoor areas now indoor areas is a 50/50

[gusty sinew]

Anyone played alien bastards

[novel bramble]

plus, the lower framerates give it a charm tbh

[last garnet]

Map01 wont have any enemies but it will have a few secrets so its at least playable the secrets will have enemies

[storm charm]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/dark-ages-deathmatch/downloads/dark-ages-deathmatch-v24-the-skulltag-update

[robust wave]

The nightmare for all vanilla doomers

[slate maple]

almost done with E6M1 - Venus Orbital Platform.

[slate maple]

gettign my megawad to convert into Kex seems like a nightmare. Where do i look for support in that?

and I wonder how much it might cost me

[whole blade]

Kex is an engine, not a format

The kex port supports multiple formats

[novel bramble]

up until mbf21 iirc

[sleek oak]

could someone tell me which classic doom map (doom 2 final doom etc.) this midi would fit in best?

[whole blade]

Whichever one you want mate

[slate maple]

yah i know, but i dont know where to really begin, no api found

[whole blade]

Start from the beginning. What are you trying to do

[silver raptor]

dead simple clone

[dire moss]

Crusher design I made for my vanilla Doom II Iwad

[last garnet]

The first thing i thought of when seeing this image was e2m4

[dire moss]

Its inspiride by the og crusher from E2M4

[last garnet]

Oh lol

[dire moss]

And its on purpose, this area in the map follows a tech hell theme, the whole place is build by the demons using stolen UAC tech

The crusher machine is made of tech and the spine is the actual crusher

And theres even more examples like that, I have some rooms that have both computer panels and wood

Like this room

[robust wave]

That's how some mods render bullet tracers

Well it's like just 2 flat textures together

Could make them from scratch, it's just a bunch of gradients

[slate maple]

First things first I need to finish my megawad. It is a huge 36+ level modded megawad i have been working on since 2015 when free time comes.

Second, I need to get some serious Q&A testing done by anyone willing. Ill even pay for some of this because i have invested so much time.

Third, I want to release it onto the new doom1/2 if possible. you can check out my wad on doomworld in my discord link to get a idea what its about

Lastly, i might just do a FULL reskin of the game and turn it into something unique.

but i also want start my own fps (engine undecided) but first need to finish my doom eternal mods

I also am working on a lore book (iso fantasy artists) for a gamemaker platformer, but that is irrelevant

[whole blade]

All you need to do for this is use the correct format. Press F2 in Doombuilder and screenshot that window

[slate maple]

its all under UDMF, so i much convert to KEX, which is going to be hell

im reading the google AI, oh boy thats going to be not fun ...

[whole blade]

What?

It's easy

F2 > change the format > fix the stuff that you need to (all your line actions will likely be wrong)

and UDMF is a map format, not a port feature set.

Also the longer you leave it the worse it'll get, do it now

[novel bramble]

i mean, its ur wad, do whatever you want lol, even if it means it changes up doom lore in a way

[slate maple]

yah ill have to look at when i get home. But from I can tell, ill have to redo quit a lot. Lots of decorate, zscript, acs, 3d floors, and like you said Line Actions to change

[whole blade]

zscript is not supported by kex, neither is decorate, neither is 3d floors

neither is acs

At this point, make a new project

With the exception of 3d floors, none of this has anything to do with your map format

[robust wave]

The only type of food the doomguy will give to demons is a knuckle sandwich

[slate maple]

that is lame, wont be doing that. hopefully there is more support later in the future. pretty pointless

ive seen mods that were gzdoom get put up into the new listings, so someone had ot figure out a easier way to do it. wish there was a api

found some conversions on line. decorate possible too. I worry mostly about the perm hp upgrades

[whole blade]

No, those are loaded without checking compatibility

Learn the features of the port you're targeting

[whole blade]

Or, everything that was gzdoom specific was remade

[storm charm]

bugfixing and playtesting v2.4.1 available soon

[silver raptor]

alright map 4 of my dantes inferno inspired mod done, 5 more to go
i decided to add a secret exit into this map that will lead to most likely wrath, though not entirely sure yet

i am really proud of how it turned out this time around though, definitely an improvement over my last one

[silver raptor]

lor ost

[novel bramble]

this is what skipping leg days happens

[whole blade]

Someone skipped leg day smh

Someone beat me to the joke smh again

[royal wave]

Bro never heard of leg day

[coarse laurel]

Can anyone recommend me some mods that use the BD black edition style?

[whole blade]

[novel bramble]

shitcube hit the fan

[whole blade]

Items like this already exist

Skulltag iirc was the first place you started seeing powerups? In Doom at least. Hexen is probably the first idtech1 game to have them

[haughty flower]

Phased plasma rifle in the 40-watt range

[whole blade]

If you want them to be

The inventory system that was brought across from hexen is persistent

[short dune]

What are the best WADs and PK3s for GZDOOM? I'm new to doom mods and want to find some mods that change up the gameplay kinda like Brutal Doom does, or wild maps.

[silver raptor]

so i wanna make it so a floor raises when all of these tagged cyberdemons die, but idk how to make it so the floor raises when all of them die instead of just when one of them dies

not very familiar with scripting

[whole blade]

You'd best learn if you want to have events linked to monster counts

You can just use standard thingcount

[silver raptor]

alright but uhh how

[whole blade]

Or you can have each cyber activate a script that increases an integer

[whole blade]

Read the wiki
https://zdoom.org/w/index.php?title=ThingCount

Note: thingcount is notoriousy easy to break. If a monster gets stuck somewhere then the player gets softlocked. Best practice is to require the player to kill most of a monster pack (I usually pick around 80% of the total enemy count), that way you have some redundancy

The other thing you can do is have a parallel script on a timer that activates regardless

[silver raptor]

with what im making i dont think a softlock will be possible so ill just keep it as all of them need to be killed

[dire moss]

Remember this crusher?

I made a room where another one is being built

All the pieces on the room, and I need to make more things on this room

The only thing I need now to end this zone is the Spiderdemon arena

I might go for a computer theme arena but idk how I am going to pul this off

[tacit pilot]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/157070-certain-deh-actors-not-appearing/#comment-3003283

reallly need help here. its been a migraine for so long

[silver raptor]

alright, secret level map 9 done of my wad, halfway done with 4 levels left

this one im iffy about, i had ideas for it but i couldnt really implement those ideas very well and ended up kinda unintentionally turning it into a slaughtermap, a very simple one but it is what it is, its a secret level anyway so i wasnt planning on putting too much effort into it and just made it in practically a day

[short dune]

What's the best map builder for a complete newbie?

[olive mirage]

probably ultimate doom builder, its one of the most used ones and can make maps compatible with the original game or for new source ports

[short dune]

Thanks! Do you know where I can find it?

[olive mirage]

i forgot you cant send links, but just look up ultimate doom builder, and it should be the first result
it should have a github domain

[whole blade]

Ultimate Doombuilder

Link is pinned in this channel
https://devbuilds.drdteam.org/ultimatedoombuilder/

[slate maple]

UDB rocks. Imagine a future when we can make doom eternal levels as easily

i leanred on DEU2 back in the day when i was 13. during that time you had to play the level to see how it looked. then countless hours aligning textures just right

[livid sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/sisyphus-rock-mp4-transparent-color-gif-11114772717737196968

[slate maple]

i didnt get buff liek that guy doing it sadly

I would KILL to find the doom 2 levels i made back then, its one some computer in a landfill

[lofty pier]

The beginning area of my first map before i realized didn't have the technical knowledge or patience to finish it (I clearly had trouble with the skybox)

[robust spear]

Back from the burnout. More dusk

[charred ivy]

Guys i just downloaded Brutal Doom and i tried opening my save and it gave me error saying Level was saved with different amount of ACS module what does this mean

[short dune]

How do I load multiple mods at once?

(For GZDoom)

[olive mirage]

you can drag multiple files at once to the gzdoom exe, or you can use a launcher

[short dune]

What's a good launcher?

[olive mirage]

i use doomrunner but most people use zdl (zdoom launcher)

[short dune]

Thanks!

[olive mirage]

oh and i forgot to say that zdl can be used for other ports as well

[sage shuttle]

im making a small level set for doom 2 thats heavily based off wolfenstein 3d. is there anything i should add or change?

this one specifically is supposed to be E1M1 in wolf3d

[whole blade]

Are you trying to load a save from when you weren't using Brutal Doom

You can't just slam a mod into an old save file (generally), you'll need to start a new game

[storm girder]

there is a new mod i just watched a vid out for people to look for

called doom deluxe, it does indeed look promising and has a classic-ish feel to it (it's a gzdoom/uzdoom mod far as I can tell)

[sage shuttle]

more screenshots of e1m1 from the .wad im making

[leaden kestrel]

Hello everyone 👋

I'l be showing some screenshots of my UZDoom game/mod that I am making.

The weapons so far are

Laser pistol - Infinite ammo, replaces melee
Revolver - Fire's a penetrating shot, it works like the Quake 2 Railgun albeit not as strong (I recommend using crosshair for it)
Shotgun - Based on the SPAS12 which fires faster than Doom's normal shotgun
Dual MP5's - It replaced the chaingun but you fire 2 shots per trigger
Fireball launcher - A mix between the rocket launcher and flame thrower, works just like the Vassago fireball
Laser battle rifle - Replaces the Plasma gun and fire's 3 bolts at a cone arc

[silver raptor]

i feel like im going insane trying to figure out why my switch textures just dont work anymore all of a sudden, the same thing happened the last map i made and i never had this problem with any other previous maps

[bronze coral]

quake ranger with freeman's guns in doom in srb2👅

[short dune]

Perfection

[bronze coral]

fake clips made wholly within quake ranger's weapon data fields (firefunc, viewmodeltickfunc, and customhudfunc)

[storm charm]

playtest time

[slate maple]

working on map 3 of the final episode 6. Takes place on the one and only UAC base on Venus.

[lofty merlin]

So I talked about the MD2 model format being used in OpenGL ZDoom sources and now I need an example to show. Can anyone help me?

I thought it was relevant here since putting MD2s in those is like a mod.

Edit: Preferably a screenshot or a video.

Edit 2: I should add I would do it myself but at the moment I don't have a computer in fact I am on my phone.

[whole blade]

What port are you targetting
What are you trying to achieve

[lofty merlin]

Well I asked a streamer if Brutal Doom was compatible with MD2 models.

[whole blade]

Brutal doom is a mod

It's compatible with whatever you code it to be compatible with

The port determines feature set

If what you're really asking is "is Zandronum compatible with MD2 (the port Brutal Doom targets), the answer is yes but it's a nightmare to set up

Evidence (this is from Culling Strike, a deathmatch project I helped run)
https://static.doomworld.com/pages_media/756576030_22_cullingstrike.jpg?_cb=1702158015

woop embed

Yes that's a Starcraft Battlecruiser c:

[lofty merlin]

Thank you I quoted at least part of what you said. My understanding was MD2s were assigned to objects in the game to give them a model and it was easy to setup.

Edit: I had no idea about ports.

[whole blade]

MD2 is a model format, and an old one at that

[lofty merlin]

I know its from Quake 2.

[whole blade]

Doombuilder can actually export map pieces as .obj, and the texture data will be baked in. It's extremely fast and easy to use

obj only supports static models though afaik. MD3 I think is the more modern format that GZDoom et al supports that allows animations

[lofty merlin]

That explains why MD2s were paired with another file for animations. Or at least I thought it had another file.

Edit: Why is it that I thought I read something about that but I can't find it? Was I imagining things?

[icy wedge]

A screenshot of my map for the Forbidden Compass community.

[novel bramble]

what texture pack is this? this looks cool

[whole blade]

Looks like otex

[icy wedge]

his texture pack was created not by me but by Kuroji_Shit2do, and the texture pack itself uses textures from other mods, namely the BTSX e1+e2 resource pack, Legacy of Rust, and Makkon Horror pack.

[novel bramble]

i see, thanks!

[storm charm]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/dark-ages-deathmatch/downloads/dark-ages-deathmatch-v252-deluxe-update

=== 2.5.2

• Ravager now build up speed and fires faster, but less damage.

• "break projectile" behaves more aesthetically like the fissure rune
  projectile in doom the dark ages.

• fixed the projectile offset on the cycler and accelerator.

[lethal elbow]

Still working on it, but this what I have so far, this my first classic doom level

[shut crane]

Is it hard to implement custom scripts in a Gzdoom wad? And if yes, do you know cool scripts I can put into the wad? Something fancy

[lethal elbow]

Vodoo doll scripting easist scripting you could use, they used it alot in eviternity

[lethal elbow]

https://youtu.be/khx8BRyftNk

[whole blade]

ACS is way easier

[whole blade]

Yes it's easy, and you wrote your own into a map. Adding scripting to existing maps is possible, but you should have an actual reason to do so

[vast bolt]

whats the parameters to make doomlauncher open dsda doom on a specific compatability level?

[lethal elbow]

Really, like I know voodoo dolls you can do vanilla stuff basic stuff

[whole blade]

You can do everything in acs

There's no rule that ACS scripting has to be complex. You can have the most basic actions in a script

[storm girder]

has anyone heard of the mod kriegsland

[livid sentinel]

cool switch textures i made

i wish discord didn't apply blur to images

the doom pallete is already applied. feel free to use, credit would be appreciated but im not gonna force it

[shut crane]

I'm making a Total Conversion, so I would like to try making something that is not Doom-vanilla

How do I make an animated texture

[royal wave]

https://zdoom.org/w/index.php?title=ANIMDEFS

[robust spear]

this looks like a cacodemon's lower-back

[novel bramble]

😭

[robust spear]

Map 6: Unsanitary Genocide (Inferno of Blood + Unspeakable Persecution)

[novel bramble]

looks awesome man

[robust spear]

ty ^^

[livid sentinel]

kinda supposed to be like that, a wall with the skin of demons.

im thinking about it being used as targets rather than generic interactables. so it starts with the eyes working, but you have to shoot the eyes out

[novel bramble]

so i might have messed up something
so in my wad im making the scret lvl is in e1m5, after u find it and beat the secret lvl and everything you still get teleported to e1m4...

and i dont think theres a way to fix it with dehacked

what do i do?

[livid sentinel]

did you set the destination in Slade?

[novel bramble]

wdym?

btw im making these maps on boom so

[livid sentinel]

in slade you can set what maps the exits will lead to. i belive you have to do that in MAPINFO

[novel bramble]

.....mapinfo is for zdoom.

as i said, im making a boom wad

[livid sentinel]

oh i thought that was a general doom thing. my b

[novel bramble]

no worries

[livid sentinel]

i only learned zdoom mapping stuff so i don't know what exactly is from one or the other

when im stuck with that stuff, i ask an ai, look at its generally shitty solution, and look into the method it was using.

occasionally it gives good results but it primarily just points you in the right direction

not saying you should rely on AI for everything or use its code, but it can be a good way to get your brain working or learn basic concepts when there is very few tutorials online

[whole blade]

This is hard coded, the only way to change the map order is via mapinfo. Note dsda doom supports umapinfo

[novel bramble]

darn it, well this is gonna be awkward

[robust spear]

That makes sense

[limber shell]

Very, VERY unfinished WAD, but here's what mine looks like so far.

Map 1 is almost finished, just need to patch up the unfinished MIDI and textures, as well as add to the basement area as it's empty.

Map 2 on the other hand is a placeholder at the moment. Cyberdemon ass and an exit 😆

Map 3 is a library, Map 29 is a coliseum and Map 32 is a gauntlet in a similar style to Go 2 It. All are VERY much unfinished and don't even have an exit yet.

I mainly would appreciate feedback on the first level at the moment.

[shut crane]

How do I make a polyobject door to make it like a modern game door instead of the classic Doom doors, as I want to make a Total Conversion

[novel bramble]

<@&162901871168585728>

[whole blade]

What do you mean

"Modern game door" is a meaningless description

Polyobjects allow for horizontally moving planes. Sliding, swinging, spinning etc

They are typically full height of the sector they occupy

[novel bramble]

I did it <3

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/157228-speedmap-mania-boom-format/

[novel bramble]

<@&162901871168585728>

sorry to keep pinging you guys

[gusty hound]

can anyone help me with some simple doom mapping?

if so dm me

[timid swan]

Has anyone made a mod that replaces regular tracks into the siivagunner versions?

[lethal elbow]

I scraped 3 levels before this because I have to learn the Builder, but this is the level I am working on so close to finish, it first level of 9 levels episode

[sage shuttle]

screenshots for a WIP slaughtermap styled .wad that takes place inside a city. any suggestions on new building or room layouts?

[storm charm]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/dark-ages-deathmatch/downloads/dark-ages-deathmatch-v253-deluxe-update

[lethal elbow]

First issue I have, the maps are huge big time

and you can't reach some pickups like chainsaw, or the berserk in first level

difficulty is good tho

[limber shell]

Thanks mate. Glad to see someone reached out, I'll patch those problems up whenever I can.

[lethal elbow]

i recommend watching this video it has two parts https://youtu.be/iuooUOuBVII

[limber shell]

Much appreciated

[lethal elbow]

His tutorials are amazing, and he build an amazing stuff

[limber shell]

Just fixed this problem

My mouse is a bit fucked but I'll try to make the maps a bit smaller whenever I can

[lethal elbow]

It learning process, take you time, Play alot of wads to get inspiration when you make stuff

[limber shell]

Definitely will make sure to. I've played Final Doom and Scythe quite a bit recently

[sage shuttle]

are there any mods that add rotation to monster death sprites?

[lethal elbow]

The important thing you trying, and also you making stuff 😄

[novel bramble]

what do you mean?

<@&162901871168585728>

[sage shuttle]

like a mod that fixes corpses constantly looking at you headon

[novel bramble]

oh, never heard of that before

i know some source ports make it so some corpses mirror when they die as an option

[bronze coral]

more quake ranger in doom in srb2 stuff except im playing freedoom

dont tell anyone... but yesee... the doom stuff is a quick cover-up to sneak my quake ranger in srb2 past the guards... and it also doubles as a quick way to peddle my srb2 to doom mod...

[storm charm]

deathmatch time

[sage shuttle]

whats the weapon mod called

[storm charm]

Dark Ages DeathMatch

[sage shuttle]

good boy

[storm charm]

this is the code for the shotgun.

[storm charm]

YO, i updated the file today!

https://www.moddb.com/mods/dark-ages-deathmatch/downloads/dark-ages-deathmatch-v254-deluxe-update

[pallid tulip]

Working on a doom wad, how do i add new textures using slade?

[olive mirage]

the doom wiki has a tutorial on how to replace or make new textures:
https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Adding_custom_textures

also for more complex sourceports like uzdoom or eternity engine, you can make 2 markers (TX_START and TX_END)
and put png images or doom lumps, which will be auto detected by slade level editor and ultimate doom builder

one last thing, for zdoom ports theres a more modern alternative just called TEXTURES which
allows for image scaling and other cool shiz, but use the other methods if you dont need to modify any graphics
https://zdoom.org/w/index.php?title=TEXTURES

[olive mirage]

<@&162901871168585728>

[wooden thicket]

👍

[robust spear]

what keeps happening in this channel that's getting the mods pinged weekly? 😭

[novel bramble]

scam bots

[robust spear]

A

[waxen parcel]

What's a cool doom 2 mods for a beginner? I'm just starting out modding doom 2

[coarse laurel]

Hi does anyone have a reskin of the shotgun and supershotgun for Brutal Doom v19?

[robust spear]

More DUSK midi

[limber shell]

I might use this for my WAD if that's alright with you

[robust spear]

perfectly fine. Just make sure to credit me & ping me when ur finished with the WAD ^^ (also credit Andrew Hulshult!)

[limber shell]

Thank you. I love DUSK and honestly the WAD I'm creating, it would fit perfectly!

[robust spear]

np ;>

[waxen parcel]

Help me what are good doom or doom 2 mods or wads

[upper flame]

Depends what you're looking for

[upper flame]

Are there any cyberpunk style monster packs out there?

[mossy rapids]

WHO want pink valley?

[balmy blade]

not really a fan of that mod, too edgy

[mossy rapids]

I know

[balmy blade]

i guess people who like horror would love it

[upper flame]

Also are there any monster packs that make the demons more like their doom eternal counterparts?

[balmy blade]

can't think of any but i can do for mapsets

....i know you asked for a monster pack and i'm suggesting something else, sorry....

[upper flame]

Auger zenith and neon overdrive yeah

[balmy blade]

damn

nvm then

[upper flame]

😂

[balmy blade]

i saw you are like a new memeber so i just assumed you are just starting off with something

XD

[upper flame]

Ive been playing around with doom mods on and off for years. Recently its kind of become a small obsession

Trying to perfect my gameplay experience with delta touch on my phone

[livid sentinel]

I love that one. But last time talked about it, my messages got deleted

[haughty flower]

How to mod?

[robust spear]

bruh

[silver raptor]

i feel like the pinned gzdoom link should probably be changed to uzdoom now

[short dune]

<@&162901871168585728>

Thanks

[livid sentinel]

make or use them? if you are trying to make them, i highly suggest watching these https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1cBWOFfRw5V69xdgxhmjVwaC1DfIvnwe&si=4FYOUQF6S0UJTh2R and following along. they still apply to UZDoom.

[slate maple]

mapping was going pretty well, started the basic layout for E6M3. Then a diablo 2 expansions go released and now im back to the loot hunt

I still need to finish it before quakecon! It takes about 2 weeks to finish the level layout, and another week to decorate and bs

[robust spear]

https://youtu.be/-mHXyQyNtU8

IT'S OUT

[random dragon]

Does anybody know how to play Doom with custom texture packs?

I want to use this pack, and it's a WAD, so Iassumed I needed to just play Doom with the WAD via ZDL but it didn't work.
https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/graphics/ultratex

[stark cargo]

need help with making this door work. i'm very new to mapping and working on my first .wad but i cannot get this door to work even tho my other ones work just fine. i'm using slade and i have the lines pointing out. top line is flagged for the yellow key and bottom line is for blue. i can hear the door make the closing noise after interacting but it never opens.

[random dragon]

Aw how sad.

Do you know any texture replacement mods?

[whole blade]

Doors raise to 4 mu below the lowest adjacent ceiling

I'm guessing you've lowered this ceiling to the floor. You should delete the sector instead

[stark cargo]

finally got it

thanks!!!!

[whole blade]

np

[stark cargo]

we're cooking good tonight

this map is absolutely gigantic and i love it. still maybe 75% done

[gritty crag]

i cant see shit, is this because i use ash mode?

[stark cargo]

probably. it's a png of all the linedefs i just downloaded it directly off of slade

you might just have to zoom in a bunch

[gritty crag]

FU-

[stark cargo]

bottom right pic is old so that's why the skybox is different

i've been working on this nearly nonstop for the past 3 days

due to my extreme stubbornness i refused to use any tutorials and taught myself everything through brute force. this is my very first map ever and i'm quite pleased with it currently

rn we're at 710 things, 2332 linedefs, 4011 sidedefs, 2140 vertices, and 310 sectors

total size is 21,232x21,755 map units

[whole blade]

First maps are all about learning so some constructive criticism, this is way too much open space.

[buoyant magnet]

guess which one i made when i was like 9

[limber shell]

Gonna take a wild guess and say it was the one on the left

[polar furnace]

hey is anyone able to help guide me throught and give me tips on how to the the ultimate doom achivemnt

[shell gorge]

I mean u was better than me when u were 9 lol I didn't even know how to texture stuff

[buoyant magnet]

the maps i made were horrendous

now that I know level design theyre much better

[shell gorge]

My first map was terrible but at least it was a map now I can't map cuz I get no ideas for maps :(

Also my doom builders kinda broke cuz I can't use flats 🥀

[buoyant magnet]

do u use ultimate doom builder or doom builder 2

[whole blade]

That'll be an issue with your resources most likely

[shell gorge]

udb

[shell gorge]

is it common for the steam version of smth?

omg

bruh i figured it out

i had a filter on that made it so udb only shown the wall textures instead of both walls and flats

[whole blade]

When you select a wall, the texture library will only show you wall textures

(Unless you're in a format that supports interchangeable flats/textures)

[stark cargo]

big fan of using sectors for added detail

[shell gorge]

it was just me being an idiot lol i had turned on a filter that makes it so flats dont show

[buoyant magnet]

depends on whether youre making a modern gzdoom type map or in actual style of doom1/doom2 i find that is better to just simply design and focus more on actual gameplay aspects and using the detail alr baked into them textures themself

[stark cargo]

idk what i'm going for i'm just having fun making maps lol. my friends are gonna contribute some we're gonna turn this into a 32 level megawad that hopefully won't be shovelware levels of bad

[buoyant magnet]

that sounds fun

i would like to play it when its done

[stark cargo]

this is my first experience with mapping be warned. it's probably not gonna be great but i've put lots of soul into this first level i've made

i plan on doing the same for all the ones i make

[buoyant magnet]

yeah honestly i would start with doom 2/1 formatting maps because it teaches you to go off of the actual devs designs which still hold up. creativity can be used but i think it interferes with making actual good maps when starting out

it also forces you to use better texture placement

[stark cargo]

something i reallyyyy need to work on is texture alignment which i suck ass at because i haven't really figured out how to do it efficiently on slade

[buoyant magnet]

r u using slade or db

[stark cargo]

slade

no tutorials watched or anything i'm making myself learn it all via raw experience

[buoyant magnet]

personally i find db to be more userfriendly and easier

@stark cargo also i would go into doom 1 and 2 and look at the design

[stark cargo]

i know the design of both of them well i've completed doom 2 about 70 times total now

[buoyant magnet]

thats cool

[stark cargo]

i've been using a lot of evil tricks and traps found in plutonia as well

a lot of my inspiration for traps and fights comes from final doom just because of how brutal it is

[shell gorge]

sound pretty cool

i tryed to make one with a couple of friends but it kinda turned into this

i havent made a proper map in ages lol

[robust spear]

this is the pinnacle of map design, u don't understnad

[pallid tulip]

hi.
I'm having trouble with custom enemies. Whenever i try to import a custom enemy into my map, it won't make a decorate folder in the thing editor. What can i do about this?

[shell gorge]

yes a bfg and a few zombie men is peak map design

[upper flame]

Are there any doom mods that turn doom into an immersive sim like deus ex, system shock 2 or.prey?

[pallid tulip]

stayin' alive

[stark cargo]

you could make a short and very punchy map out of this. give it a hotstart with like 5 revenants, an ssg, and 2 boxes of shells

[shell gorge]

i am working on a wad

but its going slow

map 1 isnt even done lamo

[whole blade]

Having fun is the correct way to make maps

[whole blade]

Incorrect. Use the format that has the featured you want to use. Vanilla had a horde of esoteric restrictions that make learning how to map actively more difficult

What I would recommend, is to try different map formats. It's a fun challenge and you might find yourself more drawn to something new

Community projects are a good way to dabble in different ports/formats

[buoyant magnet]

@whole blade cap

[whole blade]

Did you drop your hat

[buoyant magnet]

@whole blade 🧢

[novel bramble]

you don't have to ping them a million times

[royal wave]

Real ballsy move calling out Bridge of all people on their mapping advice

[random dragon]

Is there any way to make it so that monsters will always gib when killed? I know gore mods like Bolognese have this option but Bolognese is not ledge-compatible and that makes for an annoying sight. Beautiful Doom's enhanced blood and gibbing system is perfect, however, so I really want every monster to gib when they die.

[stark cargo]

ive broken ground on a secret map and ive decided to make the secret maps extremely unfair. this is agonizing and i'm taking great joy in it

[whole blade]

I make baby maps for babies

[whole blade]

Secret map is a good place to do something whacky. People are more tolerant of bullshit if it's in a secret map

[royal wave]

As long as you're at terms with it

[stark cargo]

i plan on making map 32 something absurd

[pallid tulip]

okay so, i'll never get an answer to my problem 😭

[sage shuttle]

"and game of the year, is"

[shell gorge]

omg my mangnum opus won game of the year

[random dragon]

Beautiful Doom is indeed beautiful

[gusty hound]

what the HELL am i looking at

[haughty flower]

Hi

[shell gorge]

art

[turbid shadow]

screenshots from my upcoming deathmatch wad

[random dragon]

So uhhh anybody know why this Soundpack mod is not working?

I've been using it with Beautiful Doom for a while.

After like 10 or 12 times playing Doom with it, it just stops working and just wouldn't change any sounds. I've opened the pk3's files and the entire thing looks totally fine.

The only way to fix it is to just reinstall the soundpack.

[devout idol]

Sooo uhhh, there's no way to make a hud bigger than standard resolution?

[robust spear]

monochrome tf2 shotgun

[robust spear]

What sourceport are you using?

[devout idol]

Nvm, figured it out

[royal wave]

https://fxbsky.app/profile/kevansevans.bsky.social/post/3mg4skifewk2e

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Do you believe in what you feel? #Doom #Modding

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FxBluesky · Mar 3, 2026, 3:16 AM

[safe tapir]

guys, i have made this mod that i develop since 2025, any opinion?
(made entirely on budget phone)

[pallid tulip]

yuh huh, still standing'

[whole blade]

Custom folders (categories) are defined in the decorate file. You have to do it

[tacit pilot]

almost scrapped this monster since the Death state also calls A_Fall (atleast, i THINK.)

a self reviving monster (just like quake) except the corpse can be shot to prevent the self resurrect

spritework is by BUBBLES.

[wheat mountain]

@olive mirage

[olive mirage]

yeah but can u send your decorate code

[wheat mountain]

This is udb

I'm not on my PC rn, give me 5 minutes

[olive mirage]

okie

[wheat mountain]

I'm literally in my bed, it is night in my country hahah

[wheat mountain]

Can i dm you?

[olive mirage]

sure

[robust spear]

https://youtu.be/ZR9P-i9bdEo?si=0dkHcprpNoyYy1-h

[pallid tulip]

what do you mean by that.

[olive mirage]

you need to put //$Category “your category” in all your actors for them to show up, you can also use default names like Decorations

[devout idol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/627229467294695425/1479857382631931924/PARRY_WITH_6DOF.mp4?ex=69ad9016&is=69ac3e96&hm=b0f93487befeebea768420a2ac2ff17742e4ba15dd3d5c4eda01956c0cc9684c&

[robust spear]

https://youtu.be/8tp9dZsz2Yg?si=_Pw2FD8-wRfsz2fT

[rich arrow]

This is kinda cool. How fast does it resurrect?

[rich arrow]

This reminds me of Forsaken.

[novel bramble]

i feel like this is moreso like descent

[rich arrow]

I vaguely remember the game. I think I memorized the cover though.

[tacit pilot]

about 20 seconds after “death”

[sage shuttle]

are there any mods that turn the game into redneck rampage

[robust spear]

https://youtu.be/OfJl2o9sCdg?si=awiJ12A8RW5T7q9m

[uncut pine]

Samsara has the Redneck Rampage enemies, and allows you to play as the PC from it, if I recall.

[gusty hound]

is anyone able to test my mod?

[sage shuttle]

sure

[robust spear]

https://youtu.be/ydDlGzhyOf4

[deft frigate]

hi everyone

so i'm making my own map right now for the first time

but for some reason

on one side of the wall this texture is correct and on the other side it's offcenter

oh nvm fixed it LMAO

another issue i'm having is for some reason one of the starting doors doesn't open

[tacit pilot]

Tag the sector.

[deft frigate]

i sorted it out thank you

the door was the lower texture so i had to make it the upper one

[tacit pilot]

rrroookie mistake

[deft frigate]

i only installed udb yesterday of course

also does anyone have any suggestions on how to make this door open

it acts really weirdly when i try conventional ways

[tacit pilot]

i think you need to raise the ceiling all the way to the groun

and make it untextured

[deft frigate]

oh yes good idea

[deft frigate]

wait i have another question

i'm adding things right now and for some reason they all clip into thr ground soightly

[tacit pilot]

thats intended

[deft frigate]

oh huh

[tacit pilot]

you can blame john romero or someone who modified the sprite offsets

in the wad

[deft frigate]

how would i go about that?

i've got the door texture as the middle and no upper texture right now

[tacit pilot]

right click the texture in the linedef menu

ah

i think theres a linedef action "transfer ceiling heights"?

it should make doors possible

[tacit pilot]

https://www.doomworld.com/tutorials/fx5.php

ah you're using vnilla

[deft frigate]

my bad i should have clarified

it's just the doom 2 one

[deft frigate]

does this still apply

[tacit pilot]

yea

the important part in map making is the map format

you don't wanna look at the "Doom: Doom 2" part usually

just the "X format" it says.

[deft frigate]

oh yes ok

thank you

[polar furnace]

anyone able to play multiplayer on steam doom 1 on doom 2

[narrow laurel]

Death 4 Foretold with Mods that graphically improve the game.

AND

Eternal Suffering (v3.0) with my new style for sprites; weapons, and items.

It's not a comparison.

[undone nebula]

Is that pbr and actual lighting in doom

[polar furnace]

anyone please

[undone nebula]

Death match or coop

[tacit pilot]

uh huh it works

[robust spear]

https://youtu.be/qUzrcUU4i-Q?si=VwwuHszu77z-7P7K

[narrow laurel]

Is Zandronum engine, It does not support pbr

[undone nebula]

what mod is that then

that makes it look good

[polar furnace]

coop

[narrow laurel]

Which one? I put the names there.

The Doom Eternal one is mine, it's made using D4T.

[upper flame]

The download links in this thread appear to be dead. Does anyone have a copy of this mod?
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=76635

[robust wave]

This madness is pretty endless

[gusty hound]

who knows how to make a custom weapon (like a key)

[safe tapir]

guys, i made this mod, can anyone made a map for it? i made it entirely on mobile

another weapon

[safe tapir]

i also add pee weapon which is rare in doom modding

[safe tapir]

W MOD

[robust wave]

Should've been in the cacowards

[safe tapir]

fr

i accidentally press delete

[robust wave]

The mod uses normal 3d models I'm pretty sure

[safe tapir]

can you give me the link

[robust wave]

To the mod?

[safe tapir]

ye

[robust wave]

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=80356

[safe tapir]

thx

[safe tapir]

i accidentally mention it and i cant edit it

https://tenor.com/view/flight-reacts-flight-surprised-shocked-gif-14940640833910619525

[novel bramble]

ur 10?

[tacit pilot]

saved for future blackmailing

[analog nova]

Who remembers my house.wad

[acoustic grove]

we all do rtuts

[novel bramble]

some issue im having,
the boom format has a general linedef specials where you can customize and such, but for some reason no matter what, it just doesn't work at all, i keep checking the environment and everything and still nothing. any clue to why this is happening?

[robust spear]

Send screenshots of the custom linedef in doombuilder

[novel bramble]

couldn't do screenshots but yeah

[robust spear]

win+shift+s

can u show the floor itself it's lowering (in 3D render mode)

[robust wave]

Texture f**tering

Nice dumpster model

[icy wedge]

I started learning Decohack, and this is what I got.

[novel bramble]

sorry for being late but yeah, here it is, if i used a predefined action then it works normally so i am just so confused

[robust spear]

Idk what’s going on, that’s really weird. Just use the predefined action I guess

[crystal turret]

anybody here use dsda-doom?

[hot condor]

Do I absolutely need a PC to make mods for Classic Doom?

[olive mirage]

all tools i know are pc only, but i guess you could do some text editing and sprites work with a phone

[hot condor]

Ok, thank you

[shell gorge]

no but youl be rlly limited from what ik

[hot condor]

Ok

[shell gorge]

id just buy a cheap laptop or smth

[hot condor]

Thanks for the suggestion

[valid basin]

are any of u experiencing this glitch when u pair auger zenith with diamond dragon & the shotgun will alternate between the two mods' sprites

[robust wave]

Try loading the map wad first and then the gameplay mod

[valid basin]

ait ty

[royal wave]

https://fxbsky.app/profile/kevansevans.bsky.social/post/3mhmjlwdlks23

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I like to be here when I can. #Doom

FxBluesky · Mar 22, 2026, 2:43 AM

[deft frigate]

idk where to put this but if anyone wants a soundtrack for their mod i'd love to

[tender summit]

A Colt M1911, a semi-auto .45 pistol suitable for self-defense. It's design has never changed for almost 100 years and is still used today by the military. It can only hold 8 rounds, but that's 8 kills.

[novel bramble]

you know what they say, if it's not broken, don't fix it

good sprite design though

[iron yacht]

I'm migrating from Doom Builder 2 to Ultimate Doom Builder, and for some reason, my mod's custom weapons and monsters are not showing up in the list in UDB, when they show up just fine in DB2. How do I fix?

[iron yacht]

It already has a DoomEdNumber and a category in the .pk3:

[iron yacht]

If it helps, here's my loading config:

[silver ridge]

I need to learn how to make a new hud like that

[silver ridge]

I totally forgot how to do this

nevermind

[silver ridge]

Is there a way to increase how much blood comes out of enemies?

[silver ridge]

I'm also thinking sort of doing a doom 2016 type thing in my game. Like with the lock down thing and wave battles

[novel bramble]

what do you mean, like the enemies itself or the sprites that come out of the enemy?

[lament totem]

Anyone know how to copy a wall’s properties so I can copy it the exact same way to another door? I tried ctrl shift c and v but those don’t seem to do what I want to have done

[whole blade]

If you code it, yes.

[silver ridge]

Might be better to just download brutal doom

If I get brutal doom, I can still make my own maps. Right?

[olive mirage]

yeah you should be able to make maps fine, just remember to add brutal doom pwad to doom builder or whatever tool you use

[last garnet]

Im finally back into making doom maps.

[whole blade]

If you just want juiced up gore then Nash Gore is the go to mod

[silver ridge]

I'll look for dat sheet

[silver ridge]

Would people like an expanded doom 2?

[silver ridge]

I have been thinking of continuing doom 2 after you complete hell on earth

[robust wave]

There are hella lots of mods that do that, the coolest one that I remember is After Doom, but you do it your way.

[silver ridge]

I'm trying to find that Nash Gore mod. I can't find it

[robust wave]

Just google nashgore and get it from zdoom forums or github

[lethal garden]

Doom guy should get a happy ending, settle down with a wife and raise a couple of little space marines. Change genres maybe, make it a sims style family raising game, with some pinky demons as household pets

[silver ridge]

The way i look at it after defeating the icon of sin there was nothing that said the invasion was over. Or that the slayer got transported back to earth

From what I remember

[robust wave]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-cacodemon-pet-gif-11066561543147440045

[silver ridge]

So i was thinking at the beginning should be escaping hell.

[lethal garden]

That's adorable, I'm going to use him in a playable basketball game in a doom mod....somehow

[robust wave]

Cacoballin

[silver ridge]

I wanted to use sky 3. It doesn't work.

I guess I need to do scripting to get it to work. I don't know how to do that. I tried looking up tutorials

[whole blade]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/nashgore-next/downloads/nashgore-next-v10

[silver ridge]

Oh I already found it. Sorry for not saying anything

This sky thing is my biggest issue. I wanted a proper sky for my hell map. I thought sky 3 looked more appropriate

[silver ridge]

Hmm

[lethal garden]

what's wrong with the sky?

[silver ridge]

It's not skying

It's just flat

[novel bramble]

wdym? send screenshots

[silver ridge]

Ok. I just need to do a couple things

[olive mirage]

you probably used the actual sky texture which is why it looks flat, you need to use one called F_SKY1 and then put something like a UMAPINFO inside your wad to define the sky texture manually
it should be like

MAP map01
{
 levelname = “Cool level”
 skytexture = “sky3”
}

[silver ridge]

put that in my MAPINFO?

[olive mirage]

yes, but this is a specific variant meant to work for more source ports though, iirc the u stood for universal

[silver ridge]

so I need to add a U to my MAPINFO?

[olive mirage]

i think it works without but its better to do it just for the sake of organization

[silver ridge]

It should still work the same. Right?