classic-doom-maps-mods

[robust spear]

https://tenor.com/view/loss-wave-race-wave-race-wave-race-64-gif-14052642907967265927

[ornate wraith]

Cool maps, lots of different lookin rooms, makes you feel like you're on the move. If you're the one who did the art for this, fantastic job on the TC. Feel like there's too many resources though, basically never dip below 100 armor and health and near max ammo, and when you do you get topped right back up. I never died once, beating all 4 maps on my first blind run. In map3 the roof texture is missing along with many in the rocket launcher room, the fight with the baron(?) is too simplistic, straight hallway where you can hang back in the previous room and just dump the chaingun. Kinda universal in that regard, fights feel straight foward with you rarely getting caught out. In map 2 there's a teleporter looking thing that doesn't teleport you but later on in the level there's an identical looking thingy that does teleport you. The prison section in map1 felt a bland, pistoling zombiemen and imps. Maybe have the cells all in one hallway, and at the end of the hallway have a button you push to open all the cells at once for an enemy rush. In all though, good, can't wait to see where it leads

[last garnet]

The wad uses the freedoom stuff which is probably why theres some missing stuff i also might make a new wad and try to make at least something good im still kinda new to mapping so thats also why some areas are a little bland im thinking of using otex and just the normal doom textures but I'll try to make the wad a little better

[ornate wraith]

If this is what you can make when you're new, I can't wait to see what you got cooking up next

[last garnet]

Is there a specific version of otex that would be the best to use because i downloaded the recent version and didn't expect to see 8k textures is there any with less but still alot of textures

[robust wave]

This wad was like a breath of fresh air after playing a wad with horrendous gameplay, so I liked it a lot. Architecture is nice, gameplay is very easy and there are missing textures in every map.

[robust wave]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/103426-otex-texture-set-–-update-2020-version-11-released/

[last garnet]

Thanks

[novel bramble]

whats the iwad?

[last garnet]

Thats my wad if thats what your asking

[vivid lintel]

I've made a WAD myself too if anyone would like to try it out and please let me know if you got all the secrets I've yet to see it done on all maps :p

[robust wave]

Instantly I really like usage of zdoom lighting

[vivid lintel]

Thank you!

[robust wave]

Tho silent teleports feel wierd

[vivid lintel]

I never did go back to that yet since nobody mentions it but I'm pretty sure it's just a different tag

When I was making them I found that some teleports would stop you in place and break momentum

I'm sure there's a way to have it like they are and combine it with sound but I'm not really sure how to do it lol

[robust wave]

Just use different action on lines

[vivid lintel]

Nah there's a specific teleport that does the animation and sound and stuff

I'll open UDB now and tinker about...

[robust wave]

Oh wait you don't want the momentum to break?

[vivid lintel]

Yeahhh

[robust wave]

You can spawn TeleportFog on destination tag

That green fog that also makes sound

[vivid lintel]

Cheekyyy

[robust wave]

Also hell is pink which looks kinda weird

[vivid lintel]

Pink?

That would be your own settings lol

It's very distinctly red lol

[robust wave]

Very pink for me

But geometry is really good

[vivid lintel]

Yeah you can see from the HUD icons that you have some whack settings on xD

[vivid lintel]

Thank youuuu

There's two secrets in there just a hint.. :p

[robust wave]

Kinda little ammo so I have to kill 3 cacos with a pistol

[vivid lintel]

You may have missed a secret or two :p

[robust wave]

Picked a soulsphere, will look for the second

[vivid lintel]

||There's some in the starting area||

||And one more after the first portal in the big box storage bay xD||

[robust wave]

Btw even when I put gamma correction to 1.0 which is the only setting I have off it still looks pink

[vivid lintel]

It's so red on my screen that the red words are barely visible in the middle lol

[robust wave]

Damn

[vivid lintel]

I'm using a 40inch old-ass Sanyo

I'm tweaking the settings with my remote but it's not looking too much different xD

Worth a shot idk lol xD

[robust wave]

Seems like rose color or smth that looks almost pink

[vivid lintel]

Why are you opening my WAD in UDB 😭

[robust wave]

Cuz can

To look at colr

[vivid lintel]

Ahh

I have to make script to add teleport fog

I was surprised you were like 'it's just a tag' thinking that some new tag was added or something lol and got so excited xD

hmmmm

Maybe not...

Teleport VS line set portal....

[robust wave]

I thought of choosing the different action where player freezes for a moment because I thought you chose other teleport action and didn't know how to choose one with effect

[vivid lintel]

But momentum 🙁

Yeahh all good

[robust wave]

Keeping momentum doesn't work in some places, cuz I run into a portal and almost flew back into lava

In the place with cracked floors and imps

Also most secrets are just humping the walls that are obvious if you open the automap

[vivid lintel]

I've gotten a few people with that so far :p

In an earlier build it was harder to avoid that lava lol

[robust wave]

https://tenor.com/view/sisyphus-rock-mp4-transparent-color-gif-11114772717737196968

[vivid lintel]

Please send your end of level stats!

[robust wave]

Endless loop

[vivid lintel]

huh?

[robust wave]

100 100 100

[robust wave]

Endless loop of getting out of lava by entering the portal just to fall back in

[vivid lintel]

Umm...?

Join vc and stream for me please? lol

[robust wave]

To dms then?

[vivid lintel]

Oh right yeah I notice now there's no public vc here lol

[vivid lintel]

I've gone through and patched a few things that BlazingGear and myself noticed while playing through the first couple levels 🙂

There's more portals I need to make the classic style but I'm still not sure entirely about it as it takes away from the momentum.. I'd like to know anyone's thoughts on the experience 🙂

[lyric verge]

The track in map1 is really catchy

but i like the use of lighting

[vivid lintel]

Double thanks! xD

[lyric verge]

Legit as i booted the wad up the flickering areas caught my attention but for all that there is, the music caught me lol

looks great so far, the bit with the cracks in the floor is also cool, but i fell into the inescapable lava pit area lol by accident

[vivid lintel]

Oh the first two major pits are escapable! xD

There's a hidden portal in them both :p

[lyric verge]

Ah, I never saw that lol!

[vivid lintel]

Haha it's okay it's my attempt at letting players know there 'will' be death pits, but some will be escapable if you're quick on your toes :p

[lyric verge]

my wad is in the earliest state even plausible and i've had people go at "wheres the geometry" but its meant to be a basic ass office building for the first map 😭

its not meant to be anything impressive, just the most doom 1 e1 eperience i can try to provide but with a bigger monster roster

[vivid lintel]

Bro I can see the vision for sureee

I really like the idea of using terminal textures as actual terminals, I do the same in my WAD xD

[lyric verge]

Oh fire! I'm also trying to use realm667 monsters but my slading knowledge is not good enough

give it enough time and this wad will have quite a few maps

its got 1, which you can just walk through but thats intentional. you have to look for items inside of it to have them for the rest of the game, e.g the chainsaw is only available on that level

pistol starting is not recommended for such a wad

there is a 2nd level but its wip

[vivid lintel]

Just keep adding secrets to balance it so you can have pistol start :p

[lyric verge]

Yeah i'll have to lol

[vivid lintel]

LOL

I love it xD

You should add an employee of the year that's the chaingunner :p

[lyric verge]

Yes i should! Good idea!

[robust spear]

Okay that’s adorable

[lyric verge]

Thanks lol

[robust spear]

"If you won't be swayed by my miracles, perhaps I should fell you with my medicine"

[weak turret]

is it terrible to remake a doom level as a love letter in my tc mod?

[ornate wraith]

atleast you didn't make the same mistake I did and made your first doom map (after the ones you make to figure out how doors work and stuff, like a legit one you try hard on) a 1-1 recreation of your house you had to bring out a laser measurer for. The computers aren't the worst thing by comparison

[tough fiber]

I did this as well but less in-depth

I may revisit that map and fix it up before I twist it into a horrible hellscape

[ornate wraith]

I dunno, I think it may be to blame for my mapping style, aka making 1 detailed room after another instead of a normal doom map

[tough fiber]

also those door textures look off

[ornate wraith]

they were direct photo scans put through the doom palette

[tough fiber]

I don't make "normal doom maps"

[tough fiber]

yeah they just look really bright and out of place

[ornate wraith]

I dunno, made this like 3 years ago I think, first time doing a custom texture

[tough fiber]

ok if it's your first time that's fair

[lyric verge]

Yo this is still cool

[ornate wraith]

source?

[tough fiber]

thanks for reminding me to fix the maps in my pk3

I'll rerelease it soon with part of map06 done

[cyan bough]

https://tenor.com/view/swankaids-aidan-uni-cat-explosion-gif-13067557236003860591

is that a myhouse.wad refer-

[ornate wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/ifa-wartburg-rolf-kempinski-heinz-klinger-gif-16159301202629868486

[tough fiber]

fun fact that's what got me into doom mapping

[novel bramble]

for me it was vinesauce joel

although still cool!

[lyric verge]

same

[last garnet]

same i remember watching him make his map it was amazing

[last garnet]

did i cook the start of map01

Does anyone know any good sky textures for a snow map

[ornate wraith]

Indeed

[last garnet]

here is the inside of the fortress

this looks amazing

[last garnet]

added a little curtain for what reason idk but there will be a way to get there

[ornate wraith]

Looks like a good place to put a secret

[last garnet]

Ooh good idea

[last garnet]

the staircase that leads to the second floor what should be up there a throne room or a library

[last garnet]

Ok so map01 its really short but i made less items so its a little more hard and i gave a reason to find the secret before it was a chainsaw but i switched it for a blue armor and made it in your view so you can see that you can reach there

Also its a library

[vast bolt]

i wanna play back to saturn x episode 1 on prboom+ but every time i drag the folder to the prboom+ application it says this
can anyone help?

[pale cape]

I dont see why not

[tough fiber]

try reinstalling the wad? idk

[vast bolt]

Hasnt worked

[lyric verge]

Every copy of doom is personalized

[lyric verge]

good ol toxin refinery

[ornate wraith]

Over here cuting my doom if you know what I mean (coffee machine and cup dispenser)

[summer wolf]

Lilith 2 is looking real good 🔥

[summer wolf]

damn that's so creative wtf

[lyric verge]

UZDoom Lilith WAD 2

[summer wolf]

yeah except this time Graf Zahl can't get mad over it anymore 😂

[lyric verge]

Do I make run for DOOM 1 or 2

[lyric verge]

Yeah and we fork it into a

[ornate wraith]

2, it's the standard one to be modded, and back porting to doom 1 later is usually easier than foward porting to doom 2 later if you happen to change your mind later

[lyric verge]

Okay good to know

Are there any active doom online servers? ODAMEX has a library of empty servers

[ornate wraith]

Any advice on making a doom map, I know this sounds silly but I genuinely don't know what to do. As said before I don't make maps in a way that I feel like I should, making a box then detailing it, instead of making the sprawling labyrinths I remember from the games themselves. But when I try to force myself to do that, I just fall into the same trap again

[lyric verge]

This looks fine to me, im all for people making maps how they want to, this looks cool

[ornate wraith]

Well I feel like I'm making no progress, this is like multiple hours of work and it's just 4 rooms. Then I go play vanilla Doom maps and other custom maps and they got dozens of rooms, all interconnected and all flow together

[lyric verge]

make the basic route for the maps, then you can go back them and add more, just get the main route from the entrance to the exit

thats what i do, then i add onto it

[ornate wraith]

Did you make this? That's really good

[ornate wraith]

I'll try this

[robust spear]

yes, and thank you!! :D

in it's current state it may be too quiet but I'll see

[true raft]

is Eviternity 2 any good?

[last garnet]

Have you played the first part?
I haven't played the second one yet but i did watch a couple playthroughs i honestly think it's better

[ornate wraith]

It worked! thanks

[lyric verge]

Np!

[tough fiber]

and here I was thinking sticking to 45 degree angles was bad

chat how do I make polyobjects

[last garnet]

I want to try this out looks interesting

[robust wave]

How do I make cvars that reset on map start but not when moving between the maps? Using acs and cvars for that but cvars save if I start a new game.

And they save if I leave the game too

[robust wave]

Found world ints but idk how they work

[robust wave]

Now the entire concept of my mod is screwed and it doesn't work and idk what to do

👍

[short dune]

What's a beginner friendly map maker for the first Doom?

[robust wave]

Ultimate Doom Builder. And I recommend to check out DavidxNewton for guides. Just keep making maps and you will keep getting better at it.

[short dune]

Thanks!

[ornate wraith]

Huh

[tough fiber]

I just always see doom maps where each section is always in these crazy-ass shapes and it just made me think it was bad practice to align almost everything to the grid

[ornate wraith]

I dunno the map set I’ve played the most is e1 of doom and that aligns to the grid I think

And e1 is my favorite doom map set aesthetically

[tough fiber]

hmm maybe I just haven't seen enough maps

I rarely see other people's work, mostly my own, so maybe my sample size was too small

[ornate wraith]

You haven’t seen episode 1 of Doom 1?

[tough fiber]

no I didn't mean it like that

I mean like an editor view

[ornate wraith]

Oh, I was getting worried for a second

[tough fiber]

yeah no who tf hasn't

[ornate wraith]

That’s what I was thinking

[ornate wraith]

I just remember it being that way, I haven’t actually looked at it via the map editor

[tough fiber]

ah

[ornate wraith]

It's map 3. Map 2 is unfinished

[stray marsh]

Has anyone made levels for id24?is it basically mbf21 +?

[shell gorge]

nah i might after i finish this wad im working on tho

im rusty af ngl

i havent mapped in ages

[stray marsh]

Same it's been 2-3 years
Ive built some custom monsters and guns in the last 6 months tho
2 extra guns for id24 sounds awesome, although I would replace the LoR guns with something else

I've been dreaming of level design like Metroid prime. But after playing selaco I was really struck at how natural it's arenas are... And that like firefight can break out anywhere

[shell gorge]

my main problem is i normally just dont feel like mapping or dont have any ideas :(

[stray marsh]

I've been trying to rein in my expectation
I'm calling my next project a demo or sketch
Finish in a year (hopefully quakecon)

Short intro map • Meaty adventure map • Boss puzzle map

[shell gorge]

sounds good

[lyric verge]

Custom monsters are fire but I'm way to unknowledgeable on such things lol

[stray marsh]

I mean I'm just frankensteining sprites and abilities tbh
Not making brand new stuff
Realm 666 has a monster repository. I wouldn't say I invented the suicide bomber... But mine plays differently. And hopefully looks different too.

Just downloaded a melee chaingunner sprite sheet today that I think I can strap a bomb to his hand. Suicide commando- now with more bullet sponge!

[lyric verge]

I still can't figure out how to implement their stuff

[lyric verge]

Can I see your one? Like in-game if it is

[stray marsh]

Suicide bomber? You can look at anyone's. Again, realm 666 has one.
I looked at the one in valiant. Changed the blast damage, and tweaked the hit delay to my liking.

I would download Valiant. I think skill saw made the original suicide bomber. And there is a mbf21 update for it.

Then use Slade to track all the frame data. What's the other one? WadEx? Where you can tweek attack values and such.

Though I think everyone is using a text file for monster parameters which can be viewed in Slade.

[stray marsh]

https://mods.bethesda.net/en/doom_doomii/details/7a2a398d-37a2-4ec6-bcce-89566a6371b3/Valiant__Official_Upload_

It does happen to be one of the best megawads of all time

And then just search for Slade 3. Drag and drop onto the program. You can view sprites and take a detailed look at the monster formatting in a text file... At the bottom next to ss_...

[livid sentinel]

made a title screen for a mod. howz it look?

[livid sentinel]

speaking of title screens, how exactly would i add my custom music without it cutting off early?

[livid sentinel]

@lyric verge my upload to ModDB is still waiting for approval, so here is the first release

[stray marsh]

I don't think the title screen song loops

[livid sentinel]

it does not, but trying to add anything longer than the original gets cut off when the original is supposed to end

[robust spear]

"but which one is the REAL me?" ahh 🥀

[tough fiber]

just shoot em all

[stray marsh]

I googled and it seems to be a persistent problem but couldn't see any solution.

[lyric verge]

Fire

[tough fiber]

don't worry it gets worse

it always gets worse

you'll hit many a rock bottom in that wad, and each time you'll be thrown a shovel

dig deeper my friend, dig deeper

[ornate wraith]

Is there anything you have to do to be able to engage in dialogue besides assinging the NPC a conversation ID? I can't talk to them. I was following chubzdoomer's video and that's all he did

Also I can't press the compile script button or do control+s to save the dialogue script

[robust spear]

https://youtu.be/KK-OIgePlps?si=meeQJYqd0w2FPVVr

[ornate wraith]

Can't wait to see where this goes, looks awesome thus far

[robust spear]

nah
https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=57221

replacements. This mod is meant for any boom-compatible sourceport, and playable with any mapset, so no new monsters here

[livid sentinel]

https://www.moddb.com/downloads/the-trials-v010 It got approved! :D

[last garnet]

I have a problem i make to many doom wads and cannot stick to one so i just make a bunch of wads until 1 actually feels fair and genuinely good

[crimson mountain]

hello guys am looking for a doom 2 mapper if you are one you can send me a dm and if you know where i can get someone kindly do

[last garnet]

MAP01 layout and level is done

[robust wave]

Carpet

[novel bramble]

thats a lot of carpet

[tall olive]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/project-brutality/downloads/project-brutality-3 it's a friendly mod 😄

Anyone here using Project Brutality on Android (Delta Touch)? Need map packs that don’t crash.

https://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/addons/project-brutality-30-for-zandronum-and-mobiles-v2

Use this it will help you in your Delta touch mod

[tough fiber]

trust me it's a good idea

[last garnet]

map02 is a basement

[ornate wraith]

RAAAAHHHH SECTOR BASED LIGHTING! gotta love it

[last garnet]

Ive never done anything like that before and honestly it looks amazing

[short dune]

What are the best Total Conversion doom mods?

And I was wondering the best way to play these, is it a port, the original release or the remaster?

[tidal prawn]

👋

[robust wave]

Play shit like Total Chaos and Divine Frequency. You will even forget that you'll be playing doom at some point.

[tough fiber]

I love this kinda stuff

is it bad that I feel good abandoning one level to work on another

[whole blade]

Divine Frequency is a standalone commercial game

[robust wave]

Doesn't it still run on the doom engine?

[tough fiber]

I think so, and that's the reason I might move all my game development efforts here

you can turn doom into anything

[robust wave]

It uses a modified version of gzdoom

Bruh I just opened it with uzdoom

Bruh

The normal divine frequency bans automap

Here I can see that the entire demon is a single map

[tough fiber]

grass sprite

the penrose triangle is a nice touch

does this make anyone else think of doom 1

[robust wave]

Whoopsies

A crash

[robust wave]

Darkness

[tough fiber]

I feel like the amount of green makes me feel like I'm in e1m3/m4 again

I'm not crazy right

[tough fiber]

why isn't gzdoom remembering this?

every time I launch gzdoom I have to go and change this setting

[robust wave]

Same

Shit setting

[tough fiber]

lmao I started doom 1 to get these screenshots and then I found myself clearing the rest of episode 1

this game grips you

[whole blade]

Idtech 1 yes. But it's not a conversion. Assets and code built from scratch

If anyone wants to play it, demo is on steam
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2548880/Divine_Frequency/

Steam

Divine Frequency

Story ​**You are invited to the seat of the World's consciousness. But first, you have to get out from whatever hole your actual physical body is in...**Features

• Weird, Uncanny Worlds
  Dive through layers of ever-mounting darkness. Discover secrets, brave optional encounters, and piece together the story of the world before you. Break through the…

Release Date

To be announced

[tough fiber]

is there an ACS command to remove these flags from linedefs?

[whole blade]

Blocking flags can be altered with line_setblocking

https://zdoom.org/w/index.php?title=Line_SetBlocking

[tough fiber]

yeah but what about the line of sight thing?
also I've realized now that the sound zone boundary probably can't be changed

[whole blade]

Click the link

[tough fiber]

I see

[whole blade]

Sight is a type of blocking flag

As is sound

Impassable is set at initialization iirc, so that can't be changed

[tough fiber]

it isn't working

am I using the correct operator or..

[whole blade]

Use the bit flags

That way you can combine flags easier

Get one working

Then roll it out to the other lines

[novel bramble]

idk why but i felt like experimenting with sector lighting

i mainly make levels on vanilla and such so

sector lighting is my best friend

this is usually how i do these sector lights

[tough fiber]

see I don't need to stack my stuff all the way to the ceiling

[novel bramble]

yeah thats usually the problem

if you make shadows and stuff in vanilla

the ceilling would also be a shadow

because the whole floor and ceilling being the same thing yadda yadda

i actually dont mind this that much

[tough fiber]

seems annoying

[novel bramble]

eh

honestly ive gotten used to it

to the point that i cant use the udmf format anymore

its too complicated 😭

i mean its cool that theres more stuff to make but still

[tough fiber]

how????

[vale dew]

I was playing Brutal Doom when I took my finger off a door and it opened by itself. What a random moment.

[tough fiber]

it's basically the same thing

[novel bramble]

yeah ik

but still

[robust wave]

That's because middle finger fires a hitscan.

And enemies use Pain.Taunt to detect if they get hit by a middle finger and get angry

[robust spear]

https://youtu.be/nQgKvROFWXs?si=rc3nDT-B7VG-uiy0

[robust wave]

Wendigos look like

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-gif-dancing-yippee-gif-4831054591532414101

[novel bramble]

made more showcase stuff idk its fun

[terse lance]

👋

[robust wave]

Are you a bot?

Sending wave emoji at the same minute in 2 different channels

And doing that several times in the span of a month

[whole blade]

Server member since 2020

[robust wave]

Still weird message history

[haughty flower]

New shotgun sprite

[valid chasm]

Peak shi
Seeing other old-school themed shooters be ported to doom is always great to see

[valid chasm]

Compromised, then?

[tough fiber]

how do you make these sprites so well

I just been taking pictures of random shit in my room for weapons

[tough fiber]

I have a very stupid mapping challenge that I just came up with. everyone receives 4 random textures from the default doom 2 texture library and is forced to make an entire map with just those textures

[whole blade]

That's a very normal speed mapping style challenge

[ornate wraith]

I support this, also 4 random enemies and pickups

[tough fiber]

the one guy who gets only the worst enemies to fight against:

[ornate wraith]

Archville, pain elemental, chain gunner, specter

I’d love a map of just those (honest)

Also 4 random line specials they have to use atleast once (only those which have an og doom equivalent and script execute, all scripts must be 4 lines)

I need to make a spreadsheet

[novel bramble]

oooh, i wanna do dat!!

[dusk steppe]

Would F_SKY1 need to be one of the chosen flats or could it be used regardless

I'm just gonna use the sky

[haughty flower]

some of them are actually just edited from other people's sprites, which are free to use btw
for the rest of my work i used 3d models using blender to make some pics or either made from scratch in gimp

[whole blade]

F_SKY1 will display whatever the defined sky is for that map

[novel bramble]

i mean not all levels have to have a sky texture

[whole blade]

(As a ceiling or floor flat)

[whole blade]

All levels will have one by default

Unless you specifically define one as null, which would be weird

Well, all levels that replace existing maps will use that map's sky texture by default

If your map uses non standard naming conventions then it will not have a sky set by default

(This is only possible for ports that support mapinfo afaik)

[novel bramble]

oh i see

[tough fiber]

has anyone else considered using real floor plans/blueprints for layout inspiration

[dusk steppe]

I tried once but the level was too square

[tough fiber]

I thought that was only an issue on outdoor areas

[dusk steppe]

Idk I just kinda make more abstract levels

[tough fiber]

guess it depends what you're making

[dusk steppe]

This challenge is one of my first attempts at a somewhat realistic level

[whole blade]

Yep. Many times

Both modern and ancient architecture

Including buildings I've actually built (I work in constriction)

[whole blade]

The trick is to use it as a starting point and not to stick super rigidly. Allow ideas to build off of the blue print, treat it like a block out

And pick interesting buildings

Churches are good

[tough fiber]

that's how the original developers did a lot of it

pretty sure every weapon was created from something irl

reusable healing

[tough fiber]

that's an ultrakill slab revolver 3d print but it's looking down the grip instead of the barrel

might also try this with a VGA cable

[ornate wraith]

Used a laser measurer to create a 1-1 recreation of my old apartment's interior

Also one time I used OBS to overlay a CS map over UDB allowing me to trace over it, could probably do the same thing with a real set of blueprints

My dad used to be a drafter (someone who drew blue prints), maybe I can ask him if he has any plans laying around. My mom also works in systems management or whatever it's called, she basically uses autocad all day

Also, for your custom weapon sprites you keep making (awesome work btw), I could take some perspective photos of some 40k mini weapons. Got a lot of space marine bits, some from 87

[tough fiber]

what I'm looking for currently are better sprites for my nailgun (the black thing with the drum mag) and a render of the TDA Pulverizer, thank you by the way

I should probably also update my version of the TDA cycler

[ornate wraith]

I think it just needs a better connector between the 2 plasma guns, otherwise looks good

I think maybe an Assault Cannon or Storm Bolter could work (for the nailgun, or atleast bits of it), ima check my bits box

[tough fiber]

I'd make my own stuff in blender but I can't make that render properly

it's all fuzzy n stuff and I can't sharpen any of it

did someone ping me

[ornate wraith]

Very hard to take photos of such small models at such an angle but hopefully this can atleast spark some imagination

I did, ‘too many attachments’ so the bot blocked it

[tough fiber]

hhmmmmm

[fierce ether]

Hello, I want to make my first DOOM mod, specifically for DOOM 1995. I usually play a bunch of other mods using UZDOOM, but I wanna make my own now! I don't know how hard it'll be, but hopefully it won't be too hard.

[ornate wraith]

What type of mod, map, enemy, weapon?

Maps are easiest to get into I think, but I haven’t done much with the ladder honestly

[fierce ether]

I was thinking of making the mod like this gruesome horror mod; the map having tight corners, but reasonably sized portals. I don't know about making custom enemies or weapons.

[ornate wraith]

Get ultimate doom builder, I’ll look for a tutorial to send in a minute

[fierce ether]

Thank you! 😄

[novel bramble]

i need to learn to do dehacked so i can start doing more stuff i think

but after i finish the wad im tryna do

(its basically all speedmaps)

although im taking breaks rn

[ornate wraith]

Only Dehack job I did was making the pistol use more recoil frames and shoot faster lol

[novel bramble]

wanna do a TC-ish project one day lmao

fully vanilla

[novel bramble]

as in, limit removing

[ornate wraith]

So crispy doom?

[novel bramble]

yeah something like that

although my source port of choice is nugget doom

[ornate wraith]

That or Nugget Doom, Nugget has MBF support

Oh lol

[novel bramble]

i only use uzdoom if theres mods that require udmf support

[ornate wraith]

I haven’t switched from GZ yet, what’s the difference? All I heard was CV11 saying it used AI code and calling the owner an idiot

[novel bramble]

its not that different but it has pretty cool changes

texture filtering is off by default.

[novel bramble]

you can check them out on github and look at more stuff thats different

[novel bramble]

it is a fork of gzdoom after all

[fierce ether]

GZ has a thing where if you run Project Brutality and another mod (i forgot the name) that it would crash your computer because the creator of Brutal DOOM didn't like the creator of Project Brutality

[novel bramble]

is that actually true?

i have never heard of this

i remember graf having a tantrum over one mod (it was called lilith.pk3 iirc)

[fierce ether]

ya, graf hated it

also, I got the name of the pk3 wrong

brutalv21.pk3's creator had beef with the other dude and blah blah blah computer go BOOM

anyways, how do I combine .pk3 files together to make one?

[jolly fractal]

Does anyone know how to setup librecoop

Do i like need a dedicated server because my friends cant find my game on the list they both have dhwem 3 and libre coop

[robust spear]

Fork Maiden

[tough fiber]

where's the spoon version

[robust spear]

https://tenor.com/view/can-i-get-some-ice-cream-only-a-spoon-full-funny-skit-king-bach-gif-17605177

[tough fiber]

aura gain

[barren lion]

The project was released under the leadership of @dron12261 and Track Federal

The main feature of the megawad is a snowy/icy setting (not festive, just pure winter) accompanied by a variety of mostly non-MIDI soundtracks.

**Trailer: **https://youtu.be/Siqe5Gk28Qk
**Doomworld: **https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/156801-no-time-2-freeze-community-project-mbf21-32-maps-out-now/.

[robust wave]

I wish it had a list of gameplay changes. Ton of unnoticable stuff has been tweaked and I wish I knew some.

[stray marsh]

i think it uses minicharge so the list of changes would be under that mod

[tough fiber]

today I made a breakable lamp that electrocutes you if you touch it after it breaks

still proud of myself for the death message pun

and yes these are unused doom beta sprites

[pale cape]

Doom: Fatal Frame! 😮 🙏

[novel bramble]

grahhhh first time designing a subway level in doom, 5th map for my speedmapping wad, taking a break rn

i was lazy rn so phone photos it is lmao

[novel bramble]

wanna make it so you crash and stuff, its gonna be neat i think

and i have the technique for it

maybe

[ornate wraith]

Love the look already, classic and detailed, style I'm going for, but you nailed it here

[novel bramble]

thank you!

i am making this on the boom format so i think thats why it looks classic?

[ornate wraith]

I don't think that should matter, either way it's a flat plane with vertices and shit

[novel bramble]

yeah ik

[ornate wraith]

Ok thinking about it now yea a different format would change how it looks, no slopes and room over room, no floor textures on walls and vise versa, no colored lighting, and no texture offsets on floors. I'm very silly

[novel bramble]

its okay!

honestly ive gotten used to restriction of vanilla/boom formats so

its my go to format to make maps on

[ornate wraith]

Same, difference is that I started out with GZDoom but I just never bothered to learn the GZDoom exclusive stuff (besides the texture stuff). Did for a bit make Chocolate Doom compatable DM maps, those were fun and I'm actually proud of them

[novel bramble]

thats neat!

one thing i haven't tried is, making DM maps

[ornate wraith]

Try it, the guys in the chocolate doom discord would like to play, warning they're europeans so expect ping differences

[novel bramble]

im european too lol

[ornate wraith]

Hey that works out

Wait, lemme geuss, german?

[novel bramble]

nah, eastern european

i don't feel like sharing where i live sorry

[ornate wraith]

Just wanted to show off trivia (according to a now shuttered website germany had the highest density of furrries of any country)

Honestly, both suprising and unsuprising

[novel bramble]

i know a lot of germans are furry

although theres a lot in south korea, pretty cool i think

[ornate wraith]

I mainly think of it as a european and north american phenoneom, so South Korea is intersting.

[ornate wraith]

Just remembered an idea I had earlier today, Doom's movement is different than other guys, almost like you're on like ice skates y'know. So what if someone created a mod that leaned into that, put doomguy in a UAC electric combat wheel chair and let him drift (wip lore explanation), putting vehicle like movement into the form factor of infantry. That could be fun

A: when has doom cared about poltically correct? back in the day there was pearl clutching about the satanic and gory elements. B: it's your mod, your artistic vision, not anyone else's

I personally find it funny, add a CIA agent enemy that spawns in every time you 'attack' with that 'weapon'

Lmao

That would be very fun

Add in some lore from 2016 where the UAC was doing experiments on the demons before the invasion, creating the mancubi and whatnot

dunno who it'd be, government inspector, rival mega corp, journalist, KGB agent

[novel bramble]

what would the attack even be?

redacts the enemies or something?

[ornate wraith]

Maybe an Apeture/Black Mesa kinda relationship. Or just have it be some over their head college student finding out a giant conspiracy. Or or space OSHA expecting missing hand rails and finding demonic portals. Or or or KGB agent trying to destroy amerikkkan capital for glory of Lenin. Dunno what would be funniest. If you do this project and have the CIA document wepaon in it, photoshop a guy in the picture to turn him into a revanant

Wait no, idea, when you have it out it censors the names of pickup messages to John Item or Jane Item

Also for its attack, doomguy flips the paper around to just reveal more black lines, before flipping it over again

1 in 1000 chance when he flips it over it shows that one email that mentioned trump and bubba

tell me if you decide who the protag for this is going to be (in terms of their role), I'll have fire ideas out the wazoo after that

A lot of it is copy and paste, shouldn't be too hard, hopefully

So grieving husband instead of agent of outside org

At the end, turns out his wife was secretly gislane (or however you spell it) maxwell and that's why he kept finding all those files

hmmmmm, what happened

is she in tube, is she cyborg, a synth perhaps

She is the runaway daughter of satan because she wouldn't accept her gender identity because satan is evil

And her DNA can set stuff on fire, and Archvilles are the result of gene splicing experiments

For the doom mod I'm making I'm thinking about having UAC scientists explain demon biology. I gave it some thought and I think it'd be cool if like Imps, knights/barons, and archvilles are the same spieces. Archivilles being queens, knights/barons being soldiers, and imps being workers. Mancubi and pinkies are also the same spieces, but have extreme sexual dimorphism, with hordes of male pinkies tending to mancubi matriarchs. Cyberdemons were super predators like T-Rexes, the spider mastermind and arachnetrons were under water filter feeders that became all wierd after being put on robo bodies on the surface (kinda like how blob fish look normal in the deep sea but wierd at the surface), and Revanants are simply robot bodies using the energy and bones of a hell knight

Start the level facing up with low camera height, before then raising and giving control to the player, that'd be pretty obvious to players I think

Ringing sound and fade from black too

A moving camera can't be too hard, hopefully. Just remove player control, set the camera to move and set the player to use said camera, then once the motion is over teleport the player where the camera used to be and return player control. I've done all these except for cam movement and it was pretty easy

A blue uniformed zombie man is something I experimented but haven't implemented yet

I got a plasma gun marine, swapped the sprite set with a zombie shotgunner, and turned the black on their body to blue

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/775476812292685836/1425584240497786920/yakub-ksi-forehead.gif

yes you find agartha and have to fight white chain gunners

And a vegimite sandwich

If we going full schizo then you're a trvth nvke tri-state area citizen bringing back the roman empire

sadge, keeping it realistic

granted realism is schizo

That's a real picture of a soviet dog.

If you leave communistic utopia of east germany you get gunned down by a german shepard

the wolf 3d sheperd sprite is in ZDoom cause the helper dog

also cute dog

https://tenor.com/view/gustav-husak-gustáv-husák-leonid-illyich-brezhnev-leonid-brezhnev-smoking-gif-6418911640114847102

Reminds me of Rise of the Triad sprites kinda

more proportional, like photo scanned

It does

We need an Anarchist-Punk doom mod so we can have one with Crass

If the Canadian government can fund an Anarchist collective's Fallout Tactics mod then we can get the ball rolling on this too (yes that happened)

Gave a listen, def new doom kinda stuff not just recreations of metalica songs ID boys heard on the radio. Good, but E1M1 will always have a place in my heart

Yes have an enemy that randomly appears around corners before dissapearing after half a second, it's just a black silohuette

Exactly

Subverting the tropes and expectations of gaming, such as expecting to be able to get the amount of kills listed, is always a good way to fuck with the player

Yes. Also to add more to the schizo vibe, all textures are photo scans of real walls and stuff

So realistic images stretch over doom enivorements, uncanny

Like that one game that faked deleting a save or adjusting your CRT's contrast settings

human roster you can do photo scans (if you wanna go that route, which I think you should) so shouldn't be too hard, dogs though...

When I think boomstick I just think DB

Maybe a pipe gun you made yourself that has a chance to explode

Gotta love those. I can send over a scrapped office building level if you wanna use it lol.

Nope, never made a custom enemy before, or weapon for that matter (well I've done spritework but not new features)

Revenants and other cybernetic monsters already explore that idea well, but if you want all demons to be manmade that'd be neat too

Erm, based

that reminds me, american cryptids. bigfoot, mothman, the rake, wendigos, those would be fun

I fucking love feature creep

Let me make more suggestions

why full tho

Perhaps 'Complete conspiracy'

Doom: Old World Order (to conrast with New World Order conspiracies)

So 3+ human NPCs

I'm willing to do some photo stuff as reference, but I'm not exactly built like a MI6 agent. Tall, fat all round except for the arms

I feel the more direct of a photo scan it is the better it would be, maybe I could rope my brother into this

cliche means 'overused', did you mean another word cause that doesn't quite make sense in this context, or maybe im dumb idk

Ah

[tough fiber]

I heard "movies" in the context of classic doom

has anyone seen that old movie? is it good?

[ornate wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/vladimir-lenin-lenin-cat-ленин-кот-gif-13486711

no, i just watch that gif on repeat all day

btw how'd you create that sprite, did you print out a real page and hold it as reference?

Got this off of a forum post I found on google

[tough fiber]

heyyy I'm using a declassified floor plan from the files in part of my map

[tough fiber]

downloaded

[ornate wraith]

For past sprites I used Gmod screenshots so I can angles of real weapons in a way I like

[ornate wraith]

screenshot of the WIP map?

[tough fiber]

can't get to my pc right now

[ornate wraith]

what was the buidling in the floor plans? military facility?

Wait you're the tile20 or whatever that texture's called guy

[tough fiber]

the 6th(?) floor of the house in New York that epstein lived in for a bit

flat20

[ornate wraith]

Example of Gmod screenshot

[ornate wraith]

lol

[tough fiber]

there was another texture that was good for that stuff cos it was just bare concrete

best for floors

[ornate wraith]

agreed, but can work on walls

[tough fiber]

walls if you can use it creatively and not put it literally everywhere

corner accents, tops and bottoms of pillars...

[ornate wraith]

I like tile based textures since you can do fun stuff with them, like those hex metal floors you can make a stair case or like ruined floors. I used em as raising and falling fuel rods in a map

[tough fiber]

get funky with the sector work and create cool patterns on the floor

if you use doom 64's sector coloring and just change the floor you can effectively customize the color of your floor tiles too

same with the ceiling

[ornate wraith]

Used that to make blue crates, but that works best on gray scale textures

[tough fiber]

I did that with flat19 to create the lines in the parking lot at the end of my wad's map02

things have gotten far more custom since then

[trail void]

Is that Epstein?

[ornate wraith]

all good character desigsn can be recognized by sillohuette alone

Motherfucker was always hitting that 15 degree head tilt in photos

[trail void]

He got scoliosis

[ornate wraith]

actually? didn't know that. thought that just made you shorter

[trail void]

No I was joking, I’ve got no clue why he does that head tilt

[ornate wraith]

Probably to offset for how tall his head is

[trail void]

What’s this map even about

That is indeed a bad screenshot I can’t read any of it

[pure karma]

Keep this shit off the server please

[acoustic grove]

What?

[novel bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/squid-oh-my-god-bruh-american-squid-game-mich-gif-7463404686491245456

what did you even sent

[novel bramble]

oh did he get banned?

[ornate wraith]

oh shit the feds got him

SCRAM!

[whole blade]

[pure karma]

Just a refresher for you folks from #rules-and-info

[trail void]

It'd be best if you didn't

[tough fiber]

chat should I get the oldest available map editor I can find so I can make a mod the way our ancestors did

[scarlet sphinx]

https://youtu.be/vM_nBAnwsE0

I recently interviewed Doom level designer Sandy Petersen if anyone wants to check it out. Thanks!

[tough fiber]

I might so I can get some mapping tips

[scarlet sphinx]

I spent about a half hour of the interview digging in depth with him about what makes a good map.

Should be right up the alley of designers. Thanks!

[tough fiber]

I'm already learning things and realizing a few mistakes I made that I can go clean up

I think once I finish all the levels in my wad I'll go back and clean up some stuff I may have done wrong or could've done better with my level design

[scarlet sphinx]

I miss making wads, I haven't made one since the 90s.

[tough fiber]

I personally having a good time with it, you should try and get back into it

[novel bramble]

^^

i honestly agree, its now easier than ever

[scarlet sphinx]

I made some maps for a mod of Duke a couple years ago. Super fun, but not anywhere near as many tools out there for Build as there are for Doom that's for sure. I found myself running stuff in DOSBox.

[tough fiber]

mm I've considered messing with Duke's stuff but I feel like I should beat the game before I get into mapping for it

and considering how hard it is to figure out where to go in those levels that might take a while

[novel bramble]

im considering doing levels for blood

same engine as duke

[tough fiber]

I spent like 40 minutes on Death Row before I gave up and looked up a walkthrough

[novel bramble]

thats sick, yeah the source port of duke 3d includes a map editor called mapster32

its basically build.exe but better i guess

its a bit hard to learn than say doom honestly

[royal wave]

It's stated clearly in our rules that content like that wad in particular is not allowed to be discussed here

[livid sentinel]

Just gotta say, it's doom, everything is violent. Doom 3 literally has aborted babies as enemies

[royal wave]

This isn't a debate

This server isn't for you if you can't understand that

[livid sentinel]

Got a point

[livid sentinel]

more challenging and less disappointing final boss arena. the original was just a wide open arena with no hazards

top down view if you are interested

[livid sentinel]

just found out something odd when trying to make title screen music. the original D_DM2TTL is only 11 seconds long, and i made a song that is 11 seconds but it got cut off half way through. Out of desparation, i made a 4 second version and it got cut off 2 seconds in. im about to try seeing if doubling the length of the original by extending it with nothing will make is stop where i want. this very confusing.

[pure karma]

Nice! How’d you reach out to him? I’ve tried to no avail

[livid sentinel]

AND IT WORKED!

[tough fiber]

cycloid emperor goes in the middle

[livid sentinel]

its a double cyberdemon fight so sorta

[robust spear]

Say what you will, I redesigned the Guardian. I never liked his look in the original game, or in HD. I decided to give mr. crocman some cybernetic features to better match being the final boss of The Facilities. Dw, he still does the creepy mouth thing before he attacks

[livid sentinel]

STFU BITCH

NO SCAMING CLANKAS

@brave pilot if you are available. someone is trying to scam everyone

:D

[brave pilot]

https://tenor.com/view/mhw-monster-hunter-monster-hunter-wilds-hammer-mhw-hammer-gif-4493981768275536792

[livid sentinel]

you know what they say!

NO CLANKERS!

i thank my neighbor for drawing that

[livid sentinel]

looking through the Doom 64 assets and MY GOD, the death animations are so much better. you can see them liquify frame by frame

i really wish the Unmaykr was in more than just 64 and at the VERY end of eternal. also wish they kept it the red and black tone rather that millennial white

[haughty flower]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yt7w45trTHU

[bronze coral]

More Doom in SRB2 except this time I'm showing off the obituaries

[novel bramble]

green doom

[tough fiber]

Has anyone released any cacodemon hybrid sprites on realm667 or something? I wanna include them in my mod.

On a related note, how would I make a projectile block shots?

[tough fiber]

do I just say +SHOOTABLE and give them a really high health value?

[dusk steppe]

Shootable and projectile flags dont seem to work together

Projectiles take priority over being damagable

[tough fiber]

so what can I do?

[dusk steppe]

I'm not really sure how to make a projectile block shots

The closest I've done is a plasma shield that blocked hitscan by not being a projectile

[tough fiber]

maybe I gotta do something like that where the projectile spawns a barrier that follows it...

[dusk steppe]

That makes the projectile immediately count as colliding with something

[tough fiber]

fuck.

so is it just potentially not possible without some kinda elaborate custom actor definition?

[dusk steppe]

Probably not

Idk much about anything more advanced than dehacked tho

[tough fiber]

figured out how

[whole blade]

You mean like the Mancacubus?

[tough fiber]

yea I wanted the Doom TDA Caco Hybrid

[tough fiber]

I'll take that as a no.

[whole blade]

I don't know what you're specifically referring to. But there are kit bashed sprites of hybrid demons on realm667

Franekensprites

[tough fiber]

these

did anyone create sprites of these guys in the classic art style yet

[narrow laurel]

Not yet

[tough fiber]

damn

I have the model on gmod but I can't FUCKING render blender stuff properly

the edges are always blurry and it bothers me that I can't fix that

[narrow laurel]

only this

[tough fiber]

that looks more like an inscryption sprite

[narrow laurel]

I have the model in Cloak3D poser. (or Xnalara in PC)

[narrow laurel]

¿?

Just is a Pixelart

no Sprite for doom

[tough fiber]

what's that and can I use it on my phone

[narrow laurel]

obviously

[tough fiber]

sorry

[tough fiber]

can you export transparent renders, and do they have sharp edges

[narrow laurel]

yes, and not

[tough fiber]

nvm it doesn't matter

not available on my phone apparently

no results on google play

[narrow laurel]

not available on Play Store

[tough fiber]

so how do I get it

[narrow laurel]

oh

[tough fiber]

yea saw that coming the minute I read "mediafire"

which is valid because mediafire is one of those sites that I can never fully trust

there's always something off about it every time I end up there

[narrow laurel]

Don't worry, it's a program I uploaded myself.

[tough fiber]

how did you get it ported to mobile

[narrow laurel]

Very silly, I've been using MediaFire for 12 years and I've never touched anything strange, it's the responsibility of the user, not the site, the fault would be the one who uploads the program.

[narrow laurel]

I didn't do it

[tough fiber]

that last bit is why I don't exactly feel safe on that site

cos it could look legit until it's on my pc and suddenly my ip is in a russian database

[narrow laurel]

Anyway, I sent you the link privately, I just wanted to help.

[tough fiber]

not sure if I'll be using it

not because of the whole mediafire thing

just because it doesn't have what I'm looking for

[stray marsh]

Holy cow that slaps so fn hard

Got a linky?

[tough fiber]

today I learned that sector stacking is done with lines and isn't a sector special

[novel bramble]

sector stacking?

[ornate wraith]

Room over room, I'm geussing?

[tough fiber]

when you do shit to make 2 sectors appear on top of each other despite being separate areas in the map

[novel bramble]

i seee

basically build engine stuff

but its doom

[ornate wraith]

I thought GZDoom had support for real room over room, and not the sneaky sector/invisible portal stuff of previous engines

Atleast that's the impression I got when I used room over room for the first time

[tough fiber]

the vertical equivalent of line portals

[tough fiber]

you could do it if you separate the areas with 3D floors, which I've done in my own maps but there's definitely cleaner ways to do it so you don't have to create so many dummy sectors

[ornate wraith]

appearently there's also sector_set3dfloor as well, i dunno the difference

[ornate wraith]

yeah I was just editing someone else's map so I dunno what the process behind them was

I'll read the wiki some more and pretend to understand it

[whole blade]

No room over room is one of the few remaining true limitations. Fortunately it van be created in game space in a variety of ways.

[whole blade]

Remember 3dfloor mode creates the dummy sectors for you

And manages them

Which is very handy when you end up with 2000 of them like I do lol

[ornate wraith]

Holy shit your name has a gradient on it. I wish to be so acclaimed one day as to warrant a similar treatment, maybe president or something...

[whole blade]

I had to {REDACTED} to get this

[ornate wraith]

Oh yeah I heard from another guy he had to [redacted] to john romero then [redacted] and there was a gallon of peanut butter invovled

[trail void]

So they [redacted] him in the peanut butter?

[ornate wraith]

More or less, it's more well described as [redacted] but yeah eventually the FSB had to get involved and the 3rd guy involved got thrown out of a window after they removed a [redacted] from the man's [redacted]

[trail void]

What is the FSB

[ornate wraith]

russian intelligence agency

[trail void]

Oh

[ornate wraith]

Yeah they had to sign a contract before hand that used a legal loophole that only worked in an oblast in North West Siberia, kinda stuff you have to do in order to [redacted]

[trail void]

Makes sense

[tough fiber]

I have literally never used this feature

I keep forgetting it's there

[robust spear]

I’ll release it once the next dev progress for the mod the midi’s associated with is released :P

Though, as always, check out the original ;3

https://youtu.be/PECsYqVljOo?si=r6Xz_jipbP-9sndn

https://youtu.be/YBqSCUK5-vY?si=Zsj2LqeUivYvO9Ro

[stray marsh]

I still haven't played dusk

[tough fiber]

can someone make a wad where doomguy and daisy have swapped places

he dies and her tiny rabbit ass has to kill the armies of hell

[last garnet]

map03 after map02 you enter hell and this is it so far

[novel bramble]

looks fantastic so far!

[tough fiber]

map08

[tough fiber]

looks hellish to me

[last garnet]

it kinda reminds me of doom 2016 hell levels

[tough fiber]

yea sorta

I feel like 2016 hell was less brown and more rocky

[last garnet]

yeah fair

[tough fiber]

why am I getting teleported to the bottom of the sector even though the destination is above the 3d floor?

nvm think I figured it out

nope

thought changing it to teleportdest2 would fix it

[last garnet]

the full map so far

[tough fiber]

naming these things straight poetry

[last garnet]

wait can you have multiple skys?

[tough fiber]

yea but idk how to use the second one

[novel bramble]

i love naming levels based on songs sometimes

[tough fiber]

mm

I don't know enough of them by name to have good ones for this stuff

[novel bramble]

its not out yet but i have a map and i wanna call it "Nukage Attack" based on a song by skinny puppy which is "VX Gas Attack"

obviously, the style of the map is like a nukage waste machinery stuff

so yeah

[tough fiber]

80% green 15% brown 5% misc colors

something about concentrated power of will

[last garnet]

my wad is pretty hard and also, I'm very proud how map03 is coming definitely the best map so far

does anyone know a wad that has a bunch of diffrent types of waterfall like lava falls mudfalls etc

[tough fiber]

how much trouble would I get in for turning graf zahl into an icon of sin reskin

like is this allowed

[last garnet]

hilarious

[tough fiber]

has anyone in the community actually heard his voice? I wanna get a clip of him crashing out when the fight starts

[last garnet]

the wad ends on map03 its pretty good

[terse lance]

👋

[whole blade]

Otex has heaps of liquids

[delicate venture]

can anyone her help me figure out a problem with my mod?

[tough fiber]

what is it

[tough fiber]

what do you need help with

[delicate venture]

why do the orbs get velocity on the z axis but not on x and y

[robust spear]

THEN GO PLAY IT

[haughty flower]

Doom

[delicate venture]

hello

[tough fiber]

I'm looking at the code and nothing looks wrong...

have you tried increasing the z value to see if that helps

[delicate venture]

it's the x and y that are the problem, not the z

and it didnt help

[tough fiber]

oh

are the orbs moving up at all when dropping

[delicate venture]

yeah, they still arent movind on x and y

[delicate venture]

yes

[tough fiber]

ok then I genuinely don't know cos I thought it was something about how you applied the velocity

[delicate venture]

is there any way to have like a 1 tick delay?

i wanna test smth

[tough fiber]

never tried

I have no idea

[delicate venture]

oh

[tough fiber]

I'm not an expert

all I know is your code looks the same as the code I used for my mod

also I couldn't help but notice you seem to be following davidxnewton's tutorial

didn't he link the files to the completed thing? you could paste his code in and see what you were missing

[delicate venture]

true

[delicate venture]

i pasted his code and it still does the same thing

[tough fiber]

is the orb definition different?

[delicate venture]

nope

made sure of it

[tough fiber]

that's weird then

does his pk3 work on your version of doom

[delicate venture]

oh

where do i download the PK3?

i'm on gz doom 4.14.0

[ornate wraith]

Just watched a video on the Doom alphas and now I really want to make a map with the same aesthetics and potential gameplay. Reminds of a Wolf 3D level but more open and linear from what I saw, with proto-doom cute elements.

[tough fiber]

you can get them on the internet archive

idk how playable they are but I pulled a bunch of unused textures outta them

which are currently in some of my maps

[delicate venture]

i accidentally set it as solid 🤦‍♂️

[bronze coral]

yes we WILL be doing obituaries specific to what weapon you're holding

[last garnet]

new area added looks really good

[last garnet]

i added a hidden button in the big room

[novel bramble]

grahhhhhhhh more screenshots i think lol, this is probably gonna be a short level lol, but uhhhhh basically second part of the subway thingy

[novel bramble]

these look awesome

[last garnet]

Wow that second picture looks amazing

[novel bramble]

thanks! i basically just made an excavator in doom

why? because its fucking cool

[novel bramble]

<@&162901871168585728>

thank you!

[wooden thicket]

np

[last garnet]

For my wad map32 ia gonna be a slaughter map ive only played 1 it was map32 for almagoom

[robust wave]

It seems like it's frequent to put slaughter on map32s

Was playing No Time 2 Freeze, got to map32 and fps went 2

Because of plutonia I think?

[last garnet]

map04 a hell cave looks pretty good ive noticed 1 thing my hell levels are my best looking maps im glad this wad is mostly hell levels

[last garnet]

So im using the eviternity dehacked and the astral cacodemon is genuinely the most terrifying thing ever thats why you have to go against it when you first reach the space levels map16

[novel bramble]

im planning the secret level for my wad to be a slaughter map, in a way

which is e1m9

[haughty flower]

Does this Include Doom II ?

[novel bramble]

plan to call this map subway breaks because its a subway level and its a short level so like a break, and the subway eventually breaks so, uh, idk, kinda cool i think

[tough fiber]

eh? ehh?

I'll be taking the battery off the lil monitor thing for the other frames dw

I just had an idea, the altfire makes the monitor run doom

[last garnet]

map04

[tough fiber]

e3m1

[terse lance]

👋

[tough fiber]

attempted to update my cycler sprite using a picture of my tv remote

not proud of the animation I have for it so far but I'll work on that later

honestly not proud of this whole thing, needs more thickness

it isn't what I'm looking for but yall can use it if you want

[delicate venture]

any reason why this is happening?

[robust wave]

Bro hacked thedoorfrome1m2

[robust wave]

https://youtu.be/fHUW2b_JiZc?si=ptkTjhNzO3gDSmVV

[robust wave]

Just remove the "= 10". It can only assign integers, all operations must happen in the functions.

[delicate venture]

tysm!

[last garnet]

It was an attempt to try and recreate the map theres looks way better the rest of the map is gonna be custom though

[last garnet]

more screenshots of map04

[last garnet]

now when you enter the barons room he rises from blood

[last garnet]

map04 is still wip

[tough fiber]

marbl

[novel bramble]

im gonna be playing it once i get back on my laptop

[robust wave]

Cuwl, custom enemies were unexpected and I caught several bursts

[tough fiber]

oh I did a thing in one of my maps where a baron comes outta lava

[robust wave]

Maps look awesome

[novel bramble]

im making one of the levels where graves rise up and theres like zombie men or something

[last garnet]

I love those custom enemies there like a more terrifying arachnotron

[tough fiber]

pvz

[robust wave]

True, firerate is bonkers, they're like glass cannon arachnotrons

[novel bramble]

true

[tough fiber]

now I'm imagining chaingun revenants

[last garnet]

Map16 will introduce the astral cacodemon from eviternity the scariest thing to exist

[novel bramble]

oh god

[novel bramble]

are you making a megawad??

[robust wave]

Ashed meatballs

[last garnet]

An attempt at it yeah

[tough fiber]

basically a mastermind but weaker

[novel bramble]

masterminds are only tanky chaingunners

[novel bramble]

doesn't make sense cuz, you know, chaingunners came later

[tough fiber]

yea but they fat

and slow

[last garnet]

After map06 all the map names are gonna be remixes of the doom 1 names like perfect hell being perfect hatred

[novel bramble]

nice

[tough fiber]

perfect... hatred...

YOU'VE TAKEN EVERYTHING FROM ME MACHINE

[novel bramble]

i love you
platonically of course but still, ur awesome

im getting back into ultrakill recently

[last garnet]

the barons throne room that table in the middle is where they kill

going with the theme what should the red skull room be

[novel bramble]

there lies a hell artifact
(e1m6, probably last sneak peek)

[last garnet]

i made this room a little more difficult

[novel bramble]

spirit world if it was good

[last garnet]

oh god i see the resemblance

[haughty flower]

Doom II is my new favorite game

[last garnet]

the last big fight it's a torture pit

[haughty flower]

Oh

[last garnet]

finally map04 is done

now it is since i added more items

[tough fiber]

so do you just work on multiple maps at once?

[last garnet]

Wdym

I usually play through the whole wad and when i find something I don't like i change it if that counts

Im officially saying it map04 is one of the hardest the amount of health i had to put just to actually make it beatable is insane

Mostly health bonuses and stim packs

[last garnet]

Also for map13 this level will be very hard its called wicked archviles

[tough fiber]

in my wad, archviles aren't actually demons in themselves but rather aliens who blended in with demons seamlessly by nature of their abilities

so there's gonna be a level where you end up in the vile realm and get to fight various lesser viles

that'll probably be where you get the TDA weapons

[last garnet]

that sounds interesting map05 the gore nest

[tough fiber]

which means I may need to take the cycler out of map06 so it can be properly introduced there

[last garnet]

Do they do the same thing as archviles or are they different?

[last garnet]

this same river also leads to the start

oh yeah and you ave to do rocket jumps for a part and after that you can find a secret tunnel back so you dont have to go back

[storm charm]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/dark-ages-deathmatch/downloads/dark-ages-deathmatch-v110

[last garnet]

the full map so far

its gonna get bigger

[last garnet]

first skull key room

[last garnet]

here is the full map its also done its like a more easy slaughter map

now map06 adds plutonia's favorite demon the skeleton

its name is weird

[last garnet]

this looks amazing

This map is gonna be like a trial of things
The blue trial fast enemies only pinkys skeletons and lost souls
Yellow trial movement enemies if you stop moving your basically dead
Red trial flying enemies this one is a little more difficult since its cacodemons pain elementals Lost souls and each trial has imps and humans the big middle part is gonna be the teleporter you need to unlock

the portal

[novel bramble]

fireblu my beloved

[tough fiber]

I use it for energy barriers

in footsteps of the great raveyard

[last garnet]

this is gonna be the coolest looking map

[tough fiber]

can we get 4 dimensional doom already

doom is 2d and we can do a pretty damn good job at simulating a third dimension, how about we work on simulating a fourth

[delicate venture]

fr

cant belive they didnt put a tesseract in dark ages (or they did idk i havent played it)

[tough fiber]

depends on the variant, but dw there will be lots of cover

[last garnet]

this map is so cool

[hexed galleon]

how do you make sprites for weapons, doom guy and monsters

[tough fiber]

weapons are the easiest thing of these

I turned a bluetooth speaker into a rocket launcher

[last garnet]

is there a specific app you can edit pictures on to turn them into sprites

because now im interested

[tough fiber]

not one in particular

I can upload the speedpaint of me creating the devastator sprite though

[last garnet]

this is the map now

[tough fiber]

realized that's not very helpful lemme slow it down

[last garnet]

a new room

[tough fiber]

I needa get back into actually caring about texture variety now that I'm outta the brutalist section of my map

[lethal elbow]

Need help with something in doom builder, I want to add skybox, I am using OTEX textures but sky show like that

The map format is GZDOOM UDMF

[royal wave]

You don't literally use the sky texture on the ceilings you want it on. You need to use F_Sky, then define which sky you want to appear in MAPINFO

[lethal elbow]

You mean I should add a special to it MAPINFO ??

[royal wave]

you use MAPINFO to define the sky, then use F_Sky texture on your map

[lethal elbow]

Ohh gotcha, Then I need to use slade to create it, Thanks

[lethal elbow]

Nice, It work

[delicate venture]

how do i make it so i can add my custom weapon to UDB from my ZSCRIPT mod

[last garnet]

more pics of map06 looking even better

The main area keeps getting better and better

[delicate venture]

halp

[royal wave]

https://zdoom.org/w/index.php?title=Editor_number

[delicate venture]

it didnt work :(

{
  9131 = Pixel
}```

that's the code

in MAPINFO

[royal wave]

DoomEdNums
{
   9131 = "Pixel"
}```
Save, press F8 in UDB to reload

The wiki is very clear about how to use this, don't skip details willy nilly

If it still doesn't load, there's a different problem you have

[delicate venture]

even with the quotes it doesnt appear in editor

[meager marlin]

I want to make a whole game in the Classic DOOM engine (after making a few maps to get a feel) what would you recommend for both?

[royal wave]

DOOMEDNUMS

there's a word you're missing

[royal wave]

Learn UZDoom

[meager marlin]

LOOK AT ALL THE DETAILS THEY'RE GIVING YOU

[delicate venture]

yeah doomednums is there too

[meager marlin]

show us

[royal wave]

Then there's a different problem you have. I don't know what your workflow is, so I can't debug it for you

[delicate venture]

dang

[royal wave]

The actor might be fucked, you might not be importing the wad correctly, you might not have reloaded your wad like you're supposed to

[delicate venture]

it's a PK3

idk if that's important

[royal wave]

It's not

We all call them wads

[delicate venture]

i see

[last garnet]

i upgraded the cross room with more detail

[delicate venture]

all of those are not the case :(

[strange jacinth]

is there any mod that is filled with boss and mini boss guys

[meager marlin]

I'm trying to prepare it, but CMake isn't making any files

dw, im dumb

okay CMake is giving errors

[royal wave]

Why are you building it from source?

[robust spear]

we are so back
(Insomniac Inscriptions (SIGIL x No Rest for the Living amalgoom) MAP04 "Hiking Trails of Treachery" minor progress)

[meager marlin]

IDK I couldn't find a compiled download

okay, found one

[tough fiber]

did anyone make textures like BFALL1 and its nukage variant but for lava?

I want a flowing lava texture

[novel bramble]

ask him, he seems to have the texture

@tough fiber

[tough fiber]

oh shit he does

I was just gonna rip the textures myself and palette translate them

slade's "export as png" my beloved

[last garnet]

I can give you the wad i got the lava textures from

The ones i got mine from came from the wad survive in hell just open it in slade and it has a lfall texture

I found it through doomworld

[tough fiber]

can't you just export each frame as a png and send them here? I'll make the animdef myself

[last garnet]

Ok

i exported them through slade they came through as a file but im sure its fine

[last garnet]

Ok so the cacodemon part of map06 is finally done now i have to work on the mancubus part the cave part which is gonna be a little more difficult yes this level lets you jse the bfg because how hard it is and also because when you ho through the portal hell takes all your weapons so you have to restart getting all your weapons back

[robust spear]

Personally I prefer just using DBRAIN over the custom lava-fall texture but suit yourself

[tough fiber]

see the problem is that stuff has a weird rectangular border to it since it's used for the icon of sin and nowhere else

I tried using it as regular lava and it just didn't look good

[robust spear]

fair

[tough fiber]

how would I make something that can simulate the use key from any distance

[novel bramble]

this should be like the movie click

where it pauses everything

[tough fiber]

I'm a low tier zscripter, not a wizard

[novel bramble]

fair

[tough fiber]

probably because they don't have an extension, it's fine

[random dragon]

Hang on a second...
So that's where Brutal Doom's SMG came from?

[novel bramble]

i guess so

[last garnet]

the map is slowly getting bigger