classic-doom-maps-mods

[tough fiber]

ohhhhh

[ornate wraith]

black lines appear showing you the floor and the center

[tough fiber]

ok that makes sense

how do I turn off save confirmations

[ornate wraith]

just press ctrl+s after you make an edit before moving to the next sprite

[tough fiber]

yeah but it does it anyways

[ornate wraith]

fuck it does, you can make the message go away by pressing enter instead of clicking though

[tough fiber]

crazy how caked up these guys are

bro got a bakery back there

[ornate wraith]

I've seen better (cyberdemon cough cough)

[tough fiber]

TRUE

[ornate wraith]

demon was a clay model, guy at ID had to scuplt that ass

I can't find an ZDoom equivilant for the og Doom's: wr floor start moving up and down

[terse lance]

👋

[ornate wraith]

hello

[last garnet]

So since im remaking my wad i changed all the exit text there way better but the first 6 level is in 1 big prison that turns people and other living things into aliens and you were 1 of them so the first level is a prison break

And it ends with a single alien starting another invasion on a different planet which starts up the second part

[tough fiber]

this is so fucking tuff

[tough fiber]

I can't wait to figure out how to make these guys jump

I want them to launch themselves at you from a distance so they scare the shit outta you the way they did to me the first time I saw one

[pale cape]

^not sure but I thought I read this was part of a custom mapset. are you gonna make it into a monster pack as well?

[tough fiber]

no I'm just kinda half-baking this stuff

all the custom shit gonna get crammed into a pk3 resource

[last garnet]

spent like 2 and a half hours on this 1 room its very decorated this is the starting area of the prison

its pretty easy not alot of shotgun zombies 1 secret so far all you need is a hidden key

[novel bramble]

why my man blurry as hell

[novel bramble]

this looks really good so far

[tough fiber]

blender

idk how to fix it

[novel bramble]

i don't know crap about blender so i can't really help but i feel like you could grab ur sprites to other programs and fix them

[tough fiber]

there comes a point where I just stop detailing stuff

my initial focus is the layout of the place

I'll go back and dress it up later

[last garnet]

I wanna get to like freedoom style decorating but its nearly not as good as some of the things i seen in both phase 1 and 2 my decorating is ok at best

[last garnet]

here is the courtyard done i think it looks pretty good

Thats now the prison part done

[tough fiber]

does freedoom just reskin everything from the original game and change the maps or is there new content

[last garnet]

it adds more stuff than just reskins

more textures atleast

i like useing it because the textures are cool

and the music is just amazing

[tough fiber]

true but I feel like it might be awkward to mix them with original doom

[last garnet]

wdym

[tough fiber]

idk I haven't used them together so that's just conjecture but from the freedoom screenshots I've seen there might be some issues

[last garnet]

i tried useing them together it looked weird you can actully take out doom2 from the udb confugiration and replace it with freedoom 2 and you will still have all the textures even the custom stuff

or you can merge them

but having doom 2 and freedoom together makes it looks weird

[tough fiber]

yeah that's what I thought

they have notably different art styles

[last garnet]

i downloaded Vanila doom corpses from realm667 and i didn't know that the dead textures would use the freedoom ones

[last garnet]

i love this

[last garnet]

map01 is done tell me what you think also i made the yellow keycard telporter very easy to tell were to go to reach it

[tough fiber]

add some height to the floor sectors so the wires look like they have depth

[last garnet]

i actully did that after i saw how flat it looked

[tough fiber]

smart man

[robust wave]

Duke nuk textures

Nice map, horde of zombies caught me off guard and I even died once

[last garnet]

yeah i wanted some city textures and i decided to use some of the textures

[last garnet]

did you find the yellow key

[robust wave]

Ye

Blue glowing toilet

I went cave diving into the shit

[last garnet]

i literally had no other hidden places but the toilet

the test tubes were my favorite to make the courtyard was just annoying

[robust wave]

I luv outside areas

[robust spear]

Insomniac Inscriptions

(no rest for the living x SIGIL)

[last garnet]

me to but there so annoying to make i used to be good at makeing them

[last garnet]

is this like almagoom

[robust spear]

yesh

[last garnet]

i was just playing almagoom map13 has the best music

[robust spear]

amalgoom & its ost is so peak

[last garnet]

house of pain with that weird meat tunnel was so weird and amazing

[robust spear]

lol yes

[last garnet]

the map your makeing will it also mix both themes together

[robust spear]

yeah :3

the earlier levels will be very shores-of-hell coded

[last garnet]

nice it already looks good

[novel bramble]

is this what you have been cooking up? looks awesome :3

[last garnet]

this is map02 a cave system map01 ended with an elevator which is what im standing

[tough fiber]

how would I simulate rain or snow in my maps

[robust spear]

Thank you!

This is a very recent project so I wouldn’t say it was what I’ve been cooking up tho :P

[novel bramble]

ah, still looks awesome tho!

[robust spear]

Thank u again :D

[last garnet]

3 screenshots of the first 3 rooms

[last garnet]

is it possible to make breakable windows in udmf

[tough fiber]

is it possible to have weather effects in maps

[last garnet]

i dont think so im not to good with that kinda stuff

[tough fiber]

I just realized how insanely easy it is to make weapon sprites

One of my custom weapons was just a picture of a VGA cable

I'm working on another thing right now that's basically just a double barrel plasma gun, I replaced the tan part in the middle with a meshy metal tecxture from the microphone I have on my desk

it's world sprites like enemies and stuff that are a problem

[pale cape]

might be a silly idea but what if you took pics of monsters you made out of clay 😆

[tough fiber]

that would require me being a good modeler

[tough fiber]

not the cleanest (barrels should probably be angled inward) but it'll do for now

uh why do my projectiles still have no gravity even if they have the -NOGRAVITY flag?

nails still spawning in the wrong spot, ignore that for now

what the fuck I just figured out the reason why

that's so weird

[tough fiber]

thinking about adding a devastator-like weapon, kinda like the one in duke nukem

[last garnet]

map02 is short because i had no idea really what to do so its already done map03 has a vent maze and no you cannot use the map i prevented that

[last garnet]

map03 is done now the last 3 maps which are outside

[last garnet]

map04 so far ive been working on this wad for almost 8 hours straight and finished 3 maps

definitely taking a break

[tough fiber]

I don't trust that my wad's good but I might send what I have after I finish map05

[last garnet]

I'm sure its good

My first ever wads i wish i could say were bad but i looked back at some of them and they had more thought put behind them then my recent maps but now I'm starting get that skill back

[tough fiber]

the first couple levels are ok

I like the first one but I feel like it falls off after map02

I'm gonna warn people about it again after I actually post it, but there's gonna be a massive difficulty spike on map04 and I want people to be aware of that.

haven't fully tested the end sequence in that map, but I imagine it's ridiculously hard beat the final encounters so I added a fail-safe where you just go to the next level if you die against the boss

I either need less enemies or more megaspheres.

[trail mesa]

Made custom textures for every Doom 1 weapon. (Was too lazy to open recording software)

This’s the pistol

[pale cape]

lol nice! what's in the left hand?

[trail mesa]

Its this goofy look'n bird

I dunno what bird specifically

But its all apart of one large shitpost texture pack I’ve been doin’

[last garnet]

Dammmmm!!!!!!! I know that bird

[last garnet]

could i try the wad to see if its as hard as you say

[tough fiber]

I balanced it around hurt me plenty as the original developers (probably) intended, ultra violence steps it up significantly in some areas

a lot of areas with ammo or health pickups are lessened if not halved and more enemies are present in some encounters

[royal wave]

When you put a minus in front of a flag like that, it means to remove that flag

[tough fiber]

that was the intent

[royal wave]

+Flag turns it on, -Flag turns it off

[tough fiber]

I wanted the projectile to have gravity

[tough fiber]

I'm aware

[royal wave]

Ah I misread

It's because Projectile turned it back on

[tough fiber]

yeah I realized that after consulting a clanker on the matter

[tough fiber]

I never fully trust their answers but if they're easy to implement it's worth a shot, at least temporarily

[royal wave]

Some flags are special in which they toggle several flags. If they're not added with a +/-, or have a value assigned to them, assume they're doing multiple things

[last garnet]

This is amazing

[robust spear]

thank youuuu :D

[last garnet]

I already know map02 is gonna be amazing since the sigil midi for map02 is really good and no rest for the living uses ddtblu

Both are amazing tracks

[robust spear]

no need to pressure me like that "o_o /j

[last garnet]

I wanna learn how to make custom midis what do you use to do it

[robust spear]

FL studio, actually. It has a soundfont player.

the exporting progress is slightly complicated tho

[last garnet]

The last 3 maps of my wad are gonna be in the void map28 will be when you first show up it will introduce the invisable walkways map29 shows you entering the alien queens lair theres invisible walkways with candles that show its safe to walk on its just floating islands then you get to the actual lair which was built by people the queen enslaved just to kill them after but it will show off the makeing of demons and arachnotrons i figure i just should say this srry for the yap session

Heres the level names because yeah

All these maps will connect and not look like there far from eachother

[tough fiber]

free textures I made from pictures I took outside

use them in whatever wads you want

[last garnet]

This ones amazing your pretty good

[robust spear]

Thank u again :D

(Is ur username a ref to slay the spire lol)

[last garnet]

No its because i make my doom wads on a laptop while i sit in a wood chair yeah i dont have a gaming chair or anything like that

[robust spear]

Real :P

[tough fiber]

probably not the most convincing nailgun but since when has anything looked like what it was supposed to

the plasma rifle was a damn rambo gun

[last garnet]

did you make that looks cool

[robust wave]

Hoyl shit I love this

[robust spear]

Thank you :D

[robust spear]

This is actually so tuff like what

[tough fiber]

thank you

the idea was the place is an infinitely tall complex of rooms connected by staircases

and so any time marines found themselves trapped there they either died, formed primitive tribes, or lived alone

but they all sorta went mad after a while

so that level's full of custom enemies, all of which are crazed marines with different guns

[robust spear]

That’s really interesting :0

[tough fiber]

that's also how you get the nailgun

[robust spear]

Nice

[tough fiber]

it's basically a super chaingun with the downside being that it fires projectiles

[robust spear]

Makes sense

Sounds like the plasma rifle tho o.o

[robust wave]

Plasma shotgun

[robust spear]

O

Thought a super-chaingun was just a chaingun that fires faster 😭

[robust wave]

Oh wait I read it as super shotgun

[robust spear]

Oh xD

[robust wave]

I guess super chaingun is kinda like plasma rifle

Super chaingun is spider mastermind's chaingun cuz it fires thrice more bullets than a chaingunner

[robust spear]

That’s tru

[robust spear]

Kinda looks more like a Tommy Gun

[tough fiber]

I know.......

I updated the graphics so the drum looks thicker but I don't think it helps

[robust spear]

Kinda hard to make a nailgun at the angle ur drawing at anyway :P

[tough fiber]

what's different?

[tough fiber]

I could just steal the render from tf2 classic

[robust spear]

tru

[tough fiber]

how would I make a weapon remove itself from your inventory after it's fired?

[robust spear]

Intermission

[last garnet]

this might be my favorite midi so far

[tough fiber]

is there an equivalent to A_SpawnProjectile that just shoots straight forward and not towards the player?

[robust wave]

Put this into flags field of A_SpawnProjectile

CMF_AIMDIRECTION — Aim mode 3; the projectile is not aimed at a target. Instead, it is shot in the specified direction with the specified pitch. This implies the CMF_ABSOLUTEPITCH flag. This aim mode does not require a target to be present in order to spawn the projectile.

[tough fiber]

so I'm trying to make it fire constantly in one direction no matter what.

[tough fiber]

also that didn't work, do I need to also have that second flag there?

[robust wave]

Holup, found this
CMF_ABSOLUTEANGLE — Use the angle parameter as an absolute value, ignoring the calculated aim angle. The calling actor's angle is still factored in, however.

[tough fiber]

ohhhhh

so I need them both?

[robust wave]

Probably

[tough fiber]

I tried it and now it's firing backwards and kinda to the side, but it still moves with me

lemme get a video

[robust spear]

Thank u :33

[last garnet]

The music for the level with the bfg the doom eternal song bfg10k plays its a midi

[last garnet]

I really want a reclaimed earth midi that would be amazing

[robust spear]

If I was making this mapset in UZDoom format I could do that (but I’m not so :P)

[tough fiber]

doesn't work, neither does absolutepitch

[robust wave]

Damn, idk what to do then

[robust wave]

Only way is to keep looking at this to find correct flags

[tough fiber]

nvm problem solved

[last garnet]

Oh no i was meaning for my wad

[tough fiber]

turns out I had the flags in the wrong argument spot

somehow it allowed that

[robust wave]

Oke, cool then

[robust spear]

oh sorry (embarrassing ;-;)

Dig through D4V's files in Slade, I think there's a midi for BFG Division in there

[last garnet]

I just looked up d4v and it looks amazing i wish i knew about this

[robust spear]

lol right? ITS SO GOOD ADSDASDAFAF

[robust spear]

FOUND IT

[tough fiber]

just made an ammo trade system in ACS

so cool

[novel bramble]

is the imp okay

[tough fiber]

no

they're supposed to be like those stone heads in the binding of isaac

the ones that constantly shoot in one direction at a certain rate

thankfully they work now

[tough fiber]

so what is among the many things you supposedly like

[novel bramble]

huh? wdym?

oh, wait my bio-

i like doom obviously (especially classic doom games), quake 1, duke nukem 3d, blood, ultrakill, etc.
favorite shows are breaking bad and better call saul (and also the amazing digital circus currently)
my favorite music genre is industrial/industrial rock (skinny puppy and nine inch nails)
and yeah! thats it i think

[tough fiber]

watching futurama rn

[novel bramble]

oh neato

futurama is pretty cool

[tough fiber]

also based duke3d, my first experience with that game is uuh

interesting

(I can't figure out where to go half the time)

[upper otter]

Hi, i recently bought doom 1 + 2 and i wanna get into all the mods and stuff cuz they look really fun, but i dont what i should start with and some mods are still a little too difficult to me. What mod/expansion would you guys recommed to a beginner like me?

[robust wave]

I would expect that you've got gzdoom/uzdoom for mods, so I would give you some mods for these.

For gameplay mods, try out well known Brutal Doom and Extermination Day campaign for it, tho it might appear a bit harder than vanilla game. Final Doomer adds ton of classes themed after various Final Doom IWADs. Makes the player stronger than normal, so it's good for starters. Mods like Abyssal Marine, Russian Overkill, Guncaster turn the player into an absolute powerhouse with which even a newbie can beat slaughterwads like Sunder with. Or you could combine them with mods like Corruption Cards (gives the player a card every map that changes monster behaviour, things on the map and other), Colourful Hell (adds mmo like rarities of enemies) or Project Malice (similar to Colourful hell but the tiers are themed after layers of Hell and others).

For map mods, I recommend MyHouse.wad (better to play without knowing anything about it), again Extermination Day, After Doom and Elementalism (needs a good pc). If any of them seem hard, try playing them with one of the gameplay mods that make you stronger.

And there are both, gameplay mods that have a campaign together with them. Stuff like Winter's Fury, Dead.air, Endless Madness and Endless Madness 2. The last two are wild, so don't go first with them to not ruin your expectations for other mods + they are pretty hard.

[last garnet]

map02 remake i like this layout more

[robust wave]

Nice lookin mop

[trail mesa]

Doom Zero is a perfect starting map

And No Rest For The Living is great too but a little tougher

[last garnet]

if your ever interested in trying slaughter maps play legacy of rust

[upper otter]

Alright, thanks a lot yall, i'll look into those maps

[tough fiber]

incredible atmosphere

[robust wave]

Cooked that up after watching a content smp vid that had a liminal dimension called Neverend

[trail mesa]

You should make a liminal Doom mapset

I haven’t seem too many of them

[robust wave]

And then Midnight guy makes a vid about my wad and it'll be called some shit like Most traumatising and terrifying wad ever that is illegal

[tough fiber]

yeah I swear he's just content farming

uses the same 3-4 titles and thumbnail text

otherwise good channel

[robust wave]

Anyways, that would be a good thing for the creator of the wad

[tough fiber]

true

[robust wave]

Ye

[trail mesa]

I love Midnight

[tough fiber]

why does this just randomly happen sometimes when UDB tries to load my custom textures? (ignore that some are sprites idk how else to include them for custom enemies/weapons)

[tough fiber]

so I did that and it just changes the range of the random spread

like say I wanted a bullet to always be 10 degrees to the left of the crosshair and another that's always 10 to the right, but neither would be in between

[robust wave]

Maybe try Random(10,10)? It works to remove randomized projectile damage.

[tough fiber]

hmm

[tough fiber]

nope

I think that's randomizing the maximum spread

[robust wave]

What if you put a negative value there? Would that be the same?

[tough fiber]

yeah

I tried both at once and noticed no consistency aside from the tracer with 0 spread

ok clearly you have more zscript know-how than me, would you have any idea how to make a custom weapon fire differently based on what's in a player's inventory?

I ask cos I wanted to make an extension of the super shotgun that fires twice in one burst if the player has an inventory item (which I use to represent the player having an upgrade)

[tough fiber]

@robust wave

[short harbor]

Has anyone ever ported the maps from the recently released Alpha version of PSX Doom to pc

I ask as they have some new areas I would like to add to my project and I'd like to reference the placement of Doom 2 enemies there again for the same project

[tough fiber]

well I just recreated the devastator from duke nuke

[last garnet]

map02 remake is done now i just need to add enemy's and stuff

[short harbor]

Map 02 of Doom 2 or some other wad?

[last garnet]

my wad

i just remade my map02 since it sucked and it was to short

[tough fiber]

just nerfed my special chaingunner variant

tomorrow I'm gonna add sprites for my devastator clone, put my wad maps into the pk3, and send it here for yall to give feedback

[robust wave]

I was eeping cuz Europe

Use this at the start of the fire state. It will run a completely different firing sequence if SuperShotgunUpgrade item is in players inventory.
Fire:
SHT2 A 0 A_JumpIfInventory("SuperShotgunUpgrade", 1, "Fire2")
//normal fire
Stop
Fire2:
//upgraded fire
Stop

You can even go further and make it check if there's 2 upgrades at the start of fire2 for more power

[tough fiber]

holy peak

map06 is gonna go crazy

imma use ACS to create an elaborate upgrade station

[robust wave]

I love when gameplay mods give very large power difference through permanent upgrades and shit

That's why I love Endless Madness 2

[tough fiber]

BROTHER

[robust wave]

You start as a hobo and end up as a interplanerary threat

[tough fiber]

yeah em2 is my favorite mod of all time

I really want them to have a steam release at some point. been grinding away at making a few tierlist videos on it

[robust wave]

Same, a badass story mode and a rogue like adventure mode. And my fucking reaction when seeing a battleship was a bliss

Now my mod expectations are ruined

[tough fiber]

yeah I'm PRAYING he actually releases endless madness 3

and buffs the mediocre weapons in the kit

[tough fiber]

and maybe nerfs revolver autoaim

[robust wave]

And make third chapter

[tough fiber]

yeah cos I imagine that's what would come with it

[robust wave]

Same. Strongest shit ever

[tough fiber]

I usually combo that and the t55 cannon

[robust wave]

I expect drivable helicopters in chapter 3

[tough fiber]

the revolver burst perfectly covers the downtime between cannon shots

[robust wave]

Now that I think about it I don't really combo much

[tough fiber]

praying raveyard buffs the atomizer

[robust wave]

Plus I think I underrated the t-55 cannon

[tough fiber]

true

[robust wave]

I think it's still strong, but very expensive to upgrade

[tough fiber]

yeah but a lot of things are just as strong if not stronger

it wants to be a superweapon but I can't justify using it over some other things

[robust wave]

It's mostly good only against like demolishers and that's it

[tough fiber]

you'd think it would be stronger considering what you have to kill to get one

which reminds me you're aware that story mode loops right?

and gets harder each time?

[robust wave]

Ye, I did that 5 times but I cheated on shipyard when it spawned arachnoterminators instead of spider titans

I have no idea how to beat them

[tough fiber]

so it's tough but very much possible

you do have the ion plasma cannon right? (not the tank version, though that can work since it's on shipyard)

ion plasma in general is the best counter in my opinion

if you're able to time it right

[robust wave]

I think the minigun does well against them

And I wonder if you know the ravegun spot

[tough fiber]

the what.

I thought it wasn't in em2

aside from the shop

[robust wave]

Yes, there is a ravegun in em2 campaign

I found it with map hack

I would give you a lil clue if you want tho

[tough fiber]

it's accessible through normal gameplay right

please enlighten me if so

[robust wave]

Extremely hard to get by default, pretty easy after 1-2 loops

[tough fiber]

ah

[robust wave]

You have to get it through super shotgun parkour

That's the clue

[tough fiber]

mm

alright that's fine

did you ever find the secret in DC's ruins?

(word of advice in that area, don't kill the terminator cos it just spawns like 3 more)

[robust wave]

I map hacked a lot so I know most

[tough fiber]

oh.

yeah there's a section where you go to a whole-ass other dimension

[robust wave]

Sounds like 150k more $ to me

[robust wave]

Oh wait, I found that one without the map hack

[tough fiber]

I was recording background footage for the game when I found it so I was muted for the start, but I can find the video and post it here

[robust wave]

I was also surprised to find it. I haven't even noticed it when doing listmaps or map hack

[tough fiber]

is there a real way to get the quad shotgun on shipyard? like is that an item in the map or does it need to drop from an enemy?

[robust wave]

Btw, killing three is not a problem if one didn't cause much hassle. Usually upgraded anti plot armor rifle does the job

[robust wave]

A single quadshotgunner near the switch in the cave

[tough fiber]

maybe I just need to rethink my strategy

[tough fiber]

yeah but I was thinking there might be more in loops

ig the achievement name makes sense after all

[robust wave]

Extra would logically spawn

[robust wave]

Yes

[robust wave]

Have you tried petting a battleship?

[tough fiber]

I don't think I've been close enough to

[robust wave]

It's pretty easy in Texas

[tough fiber]

man texas is such a forgettable map to me

only things keeping me from forgetting it fully are the fact that it's right before the fucking ODYSSEY of a map that is refinery, and the fact that you can break the sound barrier several times over if you bhop around the last area enough

I'm so glad the RPG has use cases past getting the t55 cannon

[robust wave]

Not that forgettable for me cuz I buffed that shit

[tough fiber]

once it shoots 4 rockets at once it drops any breakable door in one shot

so you can cheese the first half of the map pretty much

[tough fiber]

is than an ubercyberdemon

[robust wave]

Ye, happens

[tough fiber]

or just a regular

[robust wave]

Yep, plus theres 4 of them, plus 16 helis plus 24 Abrams plus a uberspooder

[tough fiber]

mm

terry's clusterfuck: revived

I actually downloaded the pk3 to my phone so now I just have the raw assets for most of this stuff

[robust wave]

Did you try playing it on your phone?

[tough fiber]

no

[robust wave]

M

[tough fiber]

16

I wonder... how would one replicate the doom tda shield bash

firstly that would be awesome in em2 for movement, secondly I wanna do something like that for my own mod if at all possible

[robust wave]

Football :3

[tough fiber]

just had an idea for chapter 3

the dreadus final fight should have a hardcore version of em1's first level music

[robust wave]

Holup, that's cool

Btw, I found a code comment

[robust wave]

About "if you disable the chip you could skip the chapter 3 entirely"

[tough fiber]

huh?

what chip...

OH

[robust wave]

The rigged chip that dreadus put

[tough fiber]

THAT

YEAH

[robust wave]

You can disable it if you hack the terminal at the end of laboratory right before the siberia

[tough fiber]

yk I was wondering what that was for

[robust wave]

I know the password cuz I hacked and checked it through the code

[tough fiber]

could never find the code, how are you supposed to find it normally

[robust wave]

Said to be somewhere in chapter 3

And it disables the chip

[tough fiber]

I thought it was gonna be some stupid shit like 69420 and it was just gonna be a funny easter egg...

[robust wave]

Nope, that's lore

[tough fiber]

so what's the code and does it do anything as of right now

[broken chasm]

👋

[tough fiber]

first 5 maps of my mod are now available!

Note: This is balanced around Hurt Me Plenty, as that's the way the original DOOM devs did their maps.
There is a substantial difficulty spike in map04! Please be careful and persistent!
I highly recommend saving during any kind of downtime. There's autosaves in some areas but not everywhere.

also this is made for GZDoom and it's recommended you have freelook enabled

[tough fiber]

am I losing it or did someone send a message here

[novel bramble]

its mostly from a bot

they usually spam scam links and get deleted immediately

[tough fiber]

so that's a regular occurrance here?

[novel bramble]

yep

[trail mesa]

Recorded with fun cause its funnier

[tough fiber]

welp just did this on endless madness 2

[cloud tangle]

i havent touched a level editor in a year and a half trying to get back into the swing of things

[novel bramble]

seems like ur still going strong, looks neat ^^

[cloud tangle]

i spent a large part of the hiatus thinking about doom maps

i just never opened up slade

ive also never tried udb i should try that

[tough fiber]

very easy to pick up. I'll give you a tip, press F to flip a linedef

[cloud tangle]

oh thats the same on slade

nice it probably wont be that hard to intuit

can udbs keyboard shortcuts be changed ? if so and if it has a lot of features that slade doesnt have then i may switch

[tough fiber]

something with "preferences" and keybinds

does slade's map stuff also include a 3d view

[cloud tangle]

yes

its so useful

[cloud tangle]

also. lol

[tough fiber]

incredible

yeah I've used UDB for my mapping and I just leave Slade for my custom shit like zscript

[cloud tangle]

could use it as an all in one

[tough fiber]

just had this idea for a wad called doooom and all the levels are extended to be twice as long

[tough fiber]

someone needs to turn the home alone movie into a wad

[novel bramble]

how would that work? basically YOU are the monster closet?

instead of the monsters?

[tough fiber]

maybe?

probably just gonna be a whole bunch of "press use in this area to set up the appropriate traps"

[novel bramble]

i could make it but im busy doing sum else and im used to making maps on vanilla/boom

[upper otter]

Hi, what maps would you guys recommend to play co-op or deathmatch with a friend?

[upper otter]

Or any good mod too if there'a any good ones

Im playing on the Doom 1 + 2 version of the game btw

[robust wave]

Tower defence Doom

[robust spear]

SIGIL has a lot of deathmatch maps built-in to the levels if you want an option you don’t have to download any mods for.

If you go on the DoomWorld forums, there’s this user called “ArrowHead” who makes a lot of great maps specifically for Deathmatch if you want to check his stuff out.

[low grove]

Merry Christmas

[robust wave]

Merry Axe-mas

[last garnet]

Merry Christmas i hope everyone gets lost souls in there gifts

The doom 2016 version

Goofy ahh scammer

[robust wave]

Does anyone know an easy method to merge .pk3 files? I want to add several enemies from realm667 into my mod. It's easy when they are in .wad files so you can just throw them in and all good, but it doesn't work with .pk3.

[bronze coral]

turning SRB2 into doom counts as #classic-doom-maps-mods right...

[last garnet]

I don't remember how i did it because i spent 6 hours brute forcing it when i was literally falling asleep doing it but when i tried to recreate it when i was awake I didn't know wtf i was doing

Yeah the wad got deleted by accident

[terse lance]

👋

[whole blade]

You can load multiple pk3s at once

If you're compiling resources though, you should be creating a single resource anyway. Easiest way to do it is to leave it uncompiled in a folder structure. UBD and zdoom ports can both read these

You only need to compile the pk3 once you're finished

[robust wave]

And how do I do that?

So leave the mod as a folder, not zip or pk3?

[whole blade]

Pk3 is just a zip file renamed. The internal structure is a basic folder setup

This is readable by udb and g/uzdoom

[royal wave]

Slade will also perform better working in a folder and not a wad/pk3

[whole blade]

You'll need to use the udb option "load resources as directory"

Yep

You also don't need to use slade at all with a directory set up

[royal wave]

One of these days I'll get off my ass and make that "how to mod zdoom" videos

[robust wave]

But I don't need it in udb, I'm making a gameplay mod that should probably be one file

[ornate wraith]

Another thing, when I run this script ingame GZDoom says that it doesn't support executing console commands from script. How do I fix?

[tough fiber]

I think that's a security feature so people can't fuck your game with acs

imagine someone doing this to send "unbind all"

[ornate wraith]

ah, makes sense, is there another way to remove to not draw the hud and weapons from ACS?

[tough fiber]

uh idk

am I specifying the wrong classname? I thought the player's classname in ACS was "Player"

[ornate wraith]

I think you can just use 0

[tough fiber]

oh

looking like no

[ornate wraith]

maybe DoomPlayer or PlayerPawn

[tough fiber]

hmm

still no, I'll just have the script trigger on a linedef instead of waiting for the player to get near

[ornate wraith]

could you maybe give the player 1 start a new ID?

wait nvm

[tough fiber]

you mean put a TID on the player?

[ornate wraith]

No I checked the page, the 2nd thing is a string classname not an ID

[tough fiber]

yeah

it isn't that important, literally all the function does is print a message.

[ornate wraith]

And you said a crossable linedev would work right?

[tough fiber]

yes

[ornate wraith]

lol

[tough fiber]

it also heals you for 25

[last garnet]

This reminds me of the imp from the realism wad where he talks about his life and how he stopped burning people

[tough fiber]

I added in another interaction

with different npcs

it's a pain in the ass to send these videos cos OBS exports them as an MKV by default so I gotta convert it to send it here

[ornate wraith]

There’s a setting in OBS that exports it as mp4 instead so you don’t need to convert

[tough fiber]

mm

[robust spear]

This map was a doozy

[tough fiber]

why is the health number any color but red

[cloud tangle]

so the limit is 4

thank you vega

[robust spear]

WooF has optional color-coded stats

it's cool

anyway, the map is finally finished omg ;-;

[ornate wraith]

This room took an embarrisingly long time

[tough fiber]

I need to lean into some textures that I don't use

[last garnet]

Looks nice

So an idea i got for teleporting monsters i know theres probably an easier way but basically im gonna make the floor a conveyor belt that moves them into a door so when you press a button it will move them into a line that teleports them idk if it works like that but its a cool idea

[last garnet]

Are you using slade to make maps? Also cool level

[novel bramble]

you use woof? thats great
although my sourceport of choice is nugget lel

[robust wave]

Attempt at making a monster randomizer gameplay mod that doesn't turn a room of imps into a room of 11 different monster types. On map start a theme is being decided and based on that theme monsters will change. Currently I have cybernetic and hellish themes, where the first one adds cybernetics to monsters and second one makes them more evil.

I used monsters from realm667

[tough fiber]

some of these look familiar

[robust wave]

Cuz they're from Realm667, even EM2 used many of them

[tough fiber]

em2 is where I recognize them

[robust wave]

Tho in em2 they act significantly different plus their health is like 10 times higher

[tough fiber]

hmm I wonder why

[robust wave]

Cuz biblically accurate Doomguy and Raveyard is a coder, not a spriter

[tough fiber]

definitely not because we're shooting them with antimatter and detached tank cannons and nuclear weaponry

[robust wave]

Biblically accurate Doomguy

[ornate wraith]

Am I defining the sounds correctly?

[robust wave]

Should be correct

[ornate wraith]

ok it was just my script, I wondered why it wasn't working, thanks

Ok now I need to figure out how to play a looping sound while you're in a specific sector

[tough fiber]

hp in a soda can

[robust wave]

Could have used some leather gloves to mimic doomguys hands

[tough fiber]

I don't have any

and even if I did they wouldn't be the right color

[robust wave]

Sadge

[tough fiber]

so I just colored my hands orange-ish and did that

[ornate wraith]

Reminds me of when I made my redneck themed map and retextured the health vials into cans of Natty Lite

[tough fiber]

is it some kind of... redneck rampage?

[ornate wraith]

i initially called it redneck rampage, but then I realized 'that's a game' and renamed it redneck rodeo

[tough fiber]

that's the joke

[ornate wraith]

I know

Found it, I originally made it for Chocolate Doom but then I found out it didn't support custom background music in formats besides MIDI so I moved to Crispy Doom. The music I wanted was from redneck rampage too, wasn't very subtle about it. Even made it so when you pick up a SSG the popup says 'yer scattergun'

It was my first time doing custom sprite work, very fun.

[ornate wraith]

Ok first step in creating a script that randomly raises and lowers a sector, but with the current setup I'd have to tag and script each sector I want to move, since I don't want them to be in sync

[tough fiber]

that sounds fucking infuriating

I woulda just tagged a random bunch of them with the same number and kept doing it until they were all tagged

[cloud tangle]

used it in 2023 because my school blocked udb on our laptops. never got out of the workflow

[robust spear]

THIS... IS ONLY THE BEGINNING

[frigid bridge]

you could select all the sectors and give them a unique tag using the tag range tool assuming your using ultimate doom builder.
Then use a for loop in your script to go through each of them and randomize their movement:

{  
  goal = Random (...);
  floor_raisebyvalue(tag,10,goal);
}```
Edit:
`should say tag++ where it says counter++`

to save you the small eternity it would take to tag and script each sector individually

[tough fiber]

this musta taken so long

[ornate wraith]

i was thinking i would have to find an operator that applies the function to each sector with that tag

Like for every sector tagged 40, do this, but looking back on that I have no idea how that'd work. I was trying to replicate the action 87 from vanilla Doom that you can see in E2M3, and those all use the same tag

Thanks for the program, I'll test it in a bit

[ornate wraith]

I did this script based off of yours, no idea what I was doing honestly, and only tag 600 moves

[frigid bridge]

Oh whoops that should say tag++ instead of counter++

Mb copied it of the zdoomwiki and changed 'counter' to 'tag' in one place but not the other

[frigid bridge]

There might be a way to do this but idk what it would be

[ornate wraith]

aight so it does every single one now, but sequentially instead of all at once, probably because I put the tagwait in there? but i dunno how else to get that raising and lowering action

[frigid bridge]

Oh right the delays

[ornate wraith]

maybe i could put the raising and lowering outside of the loop?

[frigid bridge]

I might just mess around with something like this in my doom builder to see if I can figure out something that works, but I'm sure there's a simple solution

[tough fiber]

I'd change tagwait to a random delay and see what happens but also idk entirely what the plan is here

[ornate wraith]

make each hex move up then down randomly

like that room in e2m3

[tough fiber]

ohhh

I mean we have the original wads, shouldn't be hard to go and see what they did right?

[ornate wraith]

they used an action that doesn't exist in zdoom mapping format, action 87 raise and lower floors

[tough fiber]

hmm

well what's the equivalent of that

[frigid bridge]

i think line action 60, platform perpetual move is the same thing

[robust wave]

Cybernetic and hellish themes for pinkies

[ornate wraith]

Don't know how it works, make a test sector and it just stays still

doesn't move at all

[robust wave]

Because the height of adjacent sectors is equal I think

Make a sector with different floor height hear it

[ornate wraith]

no, it was above the surrounding floor

[robust wave]

I just tested and that's exactly it

[ornate wraith]

all the sectors move independently up and down?

[robust wave]

It moves up and down on loop now

[ornate wraith]

can I see what yours is like? my sectors and perfectly still, but occasionally make the lift sound

[robust wave]

Are all your at different starting height?

[ornate wraith]

every single one is at a different starting height? no

[robust wave]

That's how it is on e2m3. All are at different starting heights

[ornate wraith]

tested it, looks like the sectors move up and down based on their neigboring sector, so if i make 1 different the ones around it will either be at their base height or the height of the different one

[robust wave]

Yep

[ornate wraith]

Aight thanks a lot for your help, I was stuck on this for 2 and a half days. Btw do you know if it's the initial starting height when the map loads, or the height when the action is called, the determines how much they move

[robust wave]

I think the sector remembers the height it started at, then moves down once and remembers that height. After that they will move in perfect loop

[ornate wraith]

I tested that by setting their heights in the map editor to be all up and down, then I used an OPEN script to then make them all the same height, and once I activated action 60 they stayed still. It's alright, just means it'll be a little less pretty before I activate the action

[tough fiber]

why are these flags not working?

according to the wiki they do

but it keeps saying "unknown identifier"

[ornate wraith]

I think bones has to be in quotes cause it's a text string

[tough fiber]

no that's working

the flags are the problem

(bones is a variable name, it's not the text I'm displaying)

[lyric verge]

Yooo what mod/wad is this for this looks fire

[robust spear]

I'm working on a totalish-conversion similar to Doom4Vanilla called DOOMED by DUSK

It's a project I hope I don't burn myself out working on, but the dehacked patch is already a mess so we'll see :P

[lyric verge]

Are there any other images / videos of it as this looks fire just from this one sprite already! 🙏

[robust spear]

working on the Mages right now actually :D

[lyric verge]

Fire, it looks a little akin to an irl group lol, is that intentional?

fire eitherway tho

[robust spear]

Well considering Wolfenstein...

[lyric verge]

OHHHH Yeah, i forget abt wolfenstein lol

[robust spear]

OH WAIT

have you heard of DUSK?

[lyric verge]

Hmmm not sure? the name rings a bell but im not too sure

[robust spear]

OHHH

Okay this WAD is a demake of that game in the doom engine.

These are how they look in the actual game

ghost ping 0_0

[lyric verge]

Oh i see i see, i was gonna make a wad but custom enemies are too much, although i thought the concept was cool of what I was gonna do

[ornate wraith]

Non-believer

[robust spear]

HERETIC

[ornate wraith]

Sacrifice

[robust spear]

Blooood

[ornate wraith]

Unworthy

[robust spear]

Kill Him

(my last 2 braincells xd)

[ornate wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/riveting-gameplay-dusk-dusk-game-newblood-new-blood-interactive-gif-10827973290261886146

[tough fiber]

something ain't right here...

[robust spear]

hmm

I have no idea if you're refering to the fact they look like a particular cult, or the sprite itself

[ornate wraith]

I think they need to be wider and more boxy

[robust spear]

that's true

[ornate wraith]

I'd recommend not using the HD models as reference, I think the style would transfer better

[robust spear]

well my logic is how the DOOM sprites were photographed clay models, and the HD sprites look like clay models by themselves. They're also gonna get pixelated anyway, as it'd be weird to make an already low-res model an even lower-res texture, might as well just base it off the model that's more detailed and then sacrifice the details once making the sprite

...if I made that point coherent

[ornate wraith]

Yes but those clay models were stylized, kinda hero scale 40k like, boxier, bigger heads and weapons, and I think non-hd dusk models reflect that more

[robust spear]

I think it would be simpler to say I just simply prefer the HD models and I can do more with them when tranfering them to spriteform :P

I get what you're saying tho -w-

[ornate wraith]

'do more' means more detail on the same size canvas, there's a reason the ID boys made this design over this one back in 93

Of course do you, just saying I'd try to keep it as simple as possible, leaning more into iconography then trying to directly show detail

[robust spear]

oh yeah, ofc. The HD models don't have much detail to begin with, more matching Xbox360 graphics (which is an artstyle I want to see more, cuz of nostalgia, but whatever) than, well, doom 2016 graphics

[ornate wraith]

Also the fact that the mages look like klansmen doesn't help with people's impression, but you can only do so much about that

[last garnet]

Ive figured out how to possible freeze/crash udb spam curve linedefs on the same thing until you get this mess

[robust spear]

yeahh ;-;

[robust spear]

my pc is lagging just opening the image

[ornate wraith]

looks like one of those pendulum animations that never repeats itself y'know

[last garnet]

I did that on a laptop and it ran like crap

[ornate wraith]

I bet it did

[last garnet]

Then it froze and i had to restart i love breaking games by accident

[ornate wraith]

how do you make that on accident

'whoops i somehow broke the 32-bit integer limit, clumsy me, must've slipped on a banana peel'

[last garnet]

Yeah your right that was definitely what i was trying to do

[ornate wraith]

[robust spear]

"Either way, THEY'RE the bad guys"

[ornate wraith]

indeed, althought since the god they're (the mages) worshipping is litteraly real, you see him ingame, could that justify their actions?

deep lore

Like if a giant fleshy god thing came down, announced a chosen one, and gave me magic powers, I'd probably fall in line

[robust spear]

Sure

In lore they sold their sanity in order to throw fireballs, float slightly above the ground, and emit a green mist while doing so.

So maybe they're just dumb

[ornate wraith]

Also good news, V1 of my first map for this WAD is complete. I still want to add some things, a custom sprite, lowering the player's gun when they're talking to the officer, and a bit of voice acting, but now is a good time to move on.

[robust spear]

Replying to my previous comment so I don't get called a sicko

[tough fiber]

É

[robust spear]

I know.

It's an unfortunate day.

I'll fix it maybeeee

yeah-no I'll fix it.

someday

[tough fiber]

can someone tell me how to do sector stacking?

[silver raptor]

i may have kinda forgotten about the dantes inferno inspired wad that i was making a while back but im back to making more maps for it, anyway i finished map 3

not entirely that proud of it, i tried to make an ice cave but no matter what i did it just didnt feel right

[novel bramble]

i feel like it should've been a fleshy level for gluttony to sell the illusion of like being inside a stomach and such

i did this in one of my levels

but other than that, it looks neat!

[silver raptor]

in dantes inferno gluttony isnt like a stomach

its just the most common depiction, its a layer of mud and ice

[novel bramble]

oh, i was taking the wording to literal, oops

im used to playing ultrakill so i can probably excuse it with that

my apologies

[robust wave]

How the hell is negative max amount of monsters possible?

[tough fiber]

something something creature of steel

[terse lance]

👋

[ornate wraith]

starting on my the next map of the WAD, gonna be a big ol warehouse and you need to find a battery in it

[tough fiber]

is it possible to have an ACS script with a string as an argument?

[robust wave]

You mean shit like script 1 (str something) {...}?

[tough fiber]

yeah that was the original idea

seemed easier than writing a function and having a bunch of different scripts that call it with different parameters

[robust wave]

I think there's no way to do that in scripts

Only functions

[tough fiber]

aw

[robust wave]

https://zdoom.org/w/index.php?title=Functions

[lethal elbow]

Does anyone could helping finding a fire sprites, like torch I need only the fire sprites

[ornate wraith]

like from the archville?

[lethal elbow]

yeah stuff like that

I already have the archvile one, need new fire sprites, like fire use for environments as ambient stuff

[ornate wraith]

You just need a variety of stand alone fire sprites, how many more do you need you reckon?

[lethal elbow]

I need two types, one used as torch, and one as just ambient fire

this been made in idstudio idtech 7 for eternal trying to add sprites now

[ornate wraith]

fuckin hell that's beautiful, thought that was a RTX quake map

I could whip one up real quick, or you could modify FIREF0 and FIREE0

[lyric verge]

Looks cool! its rather bright

[lethal elbow]

I think will use those

[ornate wraith]

I meant the archville ones, but those look a little (lot) more fitting, so all well ends well.

[lethal elbow]

I think do the archvile one then

[tough fiber]

how does one achieve this level of visual quality

[ornate wraith]

full use of all of GZDoom's suprisingly advanced tools

[tough fiber]

slightly overpowered upgrades

[ornate wraith]

at this point make it 3 so atleast 1 ball will go where you're aiming

[tough fiber]

the tracers kinda cover that

wait until you see the rocket launcher

[ornate wraith]

Let me geuss you made it shoot 2 balls too so the rocket launcher is even more like a dick?

[tough fiber]

its sole upgrade:

• Consumes 6 ammo
• Fires 8 rockets in a 5-degree spread
• One-shots Hell Knights
• Has good odds of killing the user if they aren't careful
• Doesn't fire a rocket down the middle so they need to place their shots carefully

[ornate wraith]

or that too

[tough fiber]

no the nailgun is the phallic-shaped gun

and its altfire vomits out 40 nails in a similar vein to the ultrakill overheat nailgun

[lethal elbow]

I working in this one in idtech 7 doom eternal engine, sorry for the confusing but i though it cool to share it here

[ornate wraith]

oh, still very impressive, thought the doom eternal style pickups were out of place lol

[tough fiber]

so it's not actually classic doom

[lethal elbow]

No this a doom eternal level

[tough fiber]

if I were you I'd rotate the textures on those platforms in the first image so they align with the edges

if possible

[lethal elbow]

Oh i notice that now thanks

[lyric verge]

Are there any doom mods for ZDoom that add a map select feature? Essentially like DOOM 1's episode select but for whatever maps exist in the loaded mods/game

[lethal elbow]

I really want to get to classic doom level design, or trenchbroom for quake just need to play those game more to get idea how those games level design

[ornate wraith]

ZDL launcher I geuss

[lyric verge]

I'll take a look into this ty

[ornate wraith]

Not a mod, but a launcher that lets you mount stuff. Mods on the left, game on the right, source port in the top right

If you want to you can DM me and I can walk you through, I've done this for a few of my friends before

[lyric verge]

I've downloaded it, i'll gives it a tinker n lyk if i cant figure it

thanks as its annoying doom or its ports dont have a map selector by default

[ornate wraith]

aight, I just recommend having everything in folders, like so

[lyric verge]

already got one lol

all the doom editors, ports wads n pk3s and whatever else doom related

[ornate wraith]

Nice, suprised you didn't have it already with that modding experience you got

[lyric verge]

Yeah, ive been using AceCorp which is a watered down ver of it iirc

[robust spear]

Leatherneck

+Jakob, couldn't draw his face without him looking goofy, so he has a hood instead. Very fun boss to fight in this mod

Next is probably gonna be fork maiden. Dusk's most forgettable enemy.

Unless you actually play endless.

Whatever, she's one of the reasons I'm basing these sprites off the HD models, I saw someone who was going off the base models call them "Aliens"

[ornate wraith]

you talkin about the ladies with the wheel legs and rocket launchers?

[robust spear]

nope, their lesser-siblings that are only seen in Episode 1

[ornate wraith]

oh the fork maidens? hated them in the mine level

[robust spear]

I liked the Mine-Level until I tried to beat the game pacifist ;-;

[ornate wraith]

I forgot that making lights much brigther than their surroundings makes them look like they're actually lights, y'know, instead of just another texture

[narrow laurel]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/fireworks-doom-simulator/downloads/fireworks-doom-simulator-v10#downloadsform

[royal wave]

That logo is defs ai generated

[novel bramble]

oh god it is.

[wild girder]

With certain things, you can tell

Some things take a little longer to confirm it's AI than others, but you can always tell

If it feels soulless, it's probably AI

[tacit pilot]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1450062150658953278/1455135952891547751/image.png?ex=6953a076&is=69524ef6&hm=2e634d7f9c0ce90f6b8b19ec37130112990a4f88391f7c5736c032728205daa9&=&format=webp&quality=lossless https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1450062150658953278/1455135953332211843/image.png?ex=6953a076&is=69524ef6&hm=c741be51a8af0af9b56eaa6ee921383f82cc40ee2b1d4d8e60635c7f4fe4ff6e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

(screenshot 1 crispy) (screenshot 2 gzdoom)
why do certain DEHEXTRA actors not appear in gzdoom? i've been tinkering around i'm not sure what's the problem.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1450062150658953278/1455141405944184967/image.png?ex=6953a58a&is=6952540a&hm=0b33be382b9f9e4ba8439ada10da51d5d34da7e0a8a57e1eb74c2ecfdfc30d1e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless uzdoom

[haughty flower]

I animated a cartoon-styled shotgun for my Doom mod

[terse lance]

👋

[ornate wraith]

BEHOLD! The crate castle

[ornate wraith]

how do i make the stairs build in the other direction?

[tough fiber]

try flipping the linedefs between the stairs

[last garnet]

Set them all to negative i think that could work idk

Just a guess

[tough fiber]

I think it's based on the back side of the linedefs

[ornate wraith]

Good news: They go up to the right, bad news, they sank into the floor

[ornate wraith]

they just rose up 1 step

[tough fiber]

hmm

stupid double tap

uhhh I'd have to see how I did it in my map

I know there was a video by chubzdoomer that explains this stuff

[last garnet]

Yeah nvm i thought it would go the opposite direction well i mean it did just not the right way

[tough fiber]

https://youtu.be/rFPPKNFum2w?si=I6RPk0FkPuiLjonK

[ornate wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/swagger-billions-must-die-chud-wojak-soyjak-gif-9373396409961113206

[tough fiber]

hey it worked for me

[ornate wraith]

chud (zdoomer)

[tough fiber]

it's a b not a d you illiterate

[ornate wraith]

oh shit yea u right

[ornate wraith]

aight watched through it, did some random stuff, now it works

thanks : )

[tough fiber]

ya

check out the rest of his channel if you need more help with stuff

I learned how to do strife dialogue because of him

[ornate wraith]

I'll keep that in mind, thanks.

also interior of the afformentioned crate castle

In universe the reason why the crates are a castle is because a nerd working at the warehouse made a program that would make the warehouse robots build a castle instead of properly sorting them, and then when the employees suddenly got invaded by the demons they ran the program. This is mostly because this is something I'd totally do if I had the ability to

[tough fiber]

my upgrade dealer

[robust wave]

Is there anyone who might know where these pickups or sprites came from?

[robust spear]

Some VERY good progress is being made

duskdude (based on the graphic novel)

[ornate wraith]

aw fuckin sick m8, can you give him a cigar or like a leather jacket or a cool ass hat. also can his name be chad broski

[ornate wraith]

Brutal Doom/Project Brutality if I had to geuss?

[robust wave]

I took it from a map for brutal doom so I'll check pb and maybe some bd addons

[ornate wraith]

I used to play a lot of Project Brutality back in the day, but then I stopped, and when I came back and installed the latest version they removed flipping enemies off and the dash felt worse so I just never played after that

[robust wave]

I just didn't get into pb, got overwhelmed by the buttons

Brutal Doom felt great for me

[ornate wraith]

trvth nvke, I remember Civvie11 complained about it in an unrelated video

[ornate wraith]

Never played, probably because I just thought "PB is BD but more guns, so PB is better"

[robust wave]

Imagine having both run and dash buttons, like what the hell is dat

[ornate wraith]

You don't just turn on auto run then never stop?

[robust wave]

I also don't like inconsistent artstyle of pb, while bd looks clean

[ornate wraith]

Sounds true, from what I heard BD was made by a team from the ground up, while PB was just taking shit from wherever to make it as overkill as possible

[robust wave]

I do have autorun now cuz rn my laptops shift is uhh gets stuck often for some reason if I hold it for like 3 secs

[ornate wraith]

Take off the key and clean what's under it, if nothing's there replace the key cap I geuss, that sounds wierd

[robust wave]

Also middle tier monsters act like bosses by having several attacks and abilities, like wth

[ornate wraith]

Well I geuss it's to balance out how OP the weapons are, you get more guns, they get more abilities, from what I remember PB was fairly easy(?) when on UV

[robust wave]

Not for me, I was getting cooked and weapons didn't feel op

[lyric verge]

earliest draft in the works for a map pack im doing, its heavily WIP, does anyone know how to merge content from wads so it can run from one and not need both the legacy of rust and doom 2 wad + the additional custom textures pk3?

much appreciated if anyone could help

[ornate wraith]

Slade, copy everythng that isn't LOR's maps into your map's wad, probably more complicated than that but hopefully you can start there

[lyric verge]

I'll try this, thanks!

[robust spear]

The Bone Ball.

[lyric verge]

Holy shit this looks fire

[robust spear]

thank u :D

These guys are one of my favorite enemies because of how weird they are

[lyric verge]

Oh this is fire

[robust spear]

PLAY DUSK

I think it's on sale rn

[lyric verge]

mine is just the most WIP to ever WIP, Legit the most work in progress thing ever lmfao, its meant to be similiar/close to the feel of og doom 1 and 2 levels

Its obv nowhere near done

[robust spear]

It looks pretty interesting :0

poolrooms /j

[lyric verge]

Poolrooms was the inspo for the tiles lol, you've got that spot on

mainly the poolrooms inspired section in myhouse.wad, which is beautfiul in my opinion

[lyric verge]

I Need to find what the name of the DOOM II file is

[robust spear]

M_DOOM

[lyric verge]

Tyty

[lyric verge]

We're getting somewhere now

[robust spear]

ye >:D

[lyric verge]

i gotta figure out how to put legacy of rusts entities into the wad 😭

[ornate wraith]

Have fun slading

[lyric verge]

Yeppppp

[robust spear]

& DeHacking

[lyric verge]

No idea what the hell is going on here

[robust spear]

lmao

[lyric verge]

Whats the character bar img called again

[ornate wraith]

hud

[tough fiber]

why is everything that one flat texture

[lyric verge]

Ty

[lyric verge]

cuz i started it like an hour ago

this is nothing much at all cuz its new

[ornate wraith]

oh, according to the Doom Wiki the new textures, enemies, and weapons, can be found in seperate files from the rest of the expansion, should be a lot easier

id1-res and id1-weap

[lyric verge]

Oh brilliant, What is the HUDs Image name, i've lost it lmao, had it then my brain forgot it

[ornate wraith]

hudbar I think

[lyric verge]

yeah all the new textures are in the wad file for the mappack

[robust spear]

STBAR + STARMS

[lyric verge]

OH TY

[robust spear]

ofc :D

[lyric verge]

Still can't grasp whats going on here although it may be due to this, theres a long hud and a short one

[ornate wraith]

@lyric verge if you got the steam release of doom 1 +doom 2 you can just look up id1 in the folder

[lyric verge]

Yeah i have the steam release, i'll get em out now

[lyric verge]

Partially fixed it, do you know what the marine's head sprites are labelled under?

[robust spear]

There are 41 different head sprites. This explains each

https://youtu.be/zKnaoA6BdJk?si=Uo0ppOBcFaEA2LGO

there's no "I" in EVL btw

[lyric verge]

Oh ty!

[lyric verge]

What texture goes here im confused, something is causing this and its behind doom guys head, the rest is fixed

[robust spear]

I'm not sure

[lyric verge]

Hmmm okay ill try and figure it out

GOT IT! It was a duplicate of the grey numbers

Smh

[robust spear]

lol

[lyric verge]

Just adding arbitrary stuff now

[lyric verge]

Do you know if the enemy marines are ever used in the normal game?

I cant seem to remember ever seeing them

[robust spear]

no

[lyric verge]

I see I see

[lyric verge]

also how come the sky1 texture isnt doing its thing lmfao

[robust spear]

oh you poor soul

use F_SKY1

[lyric verge]

LMFAO WOOPS

You can tell im new to this, but I'm having fun so

Seemingly not doing much for the walls, i've gotta lot to learn lmfao

i figured it out lol

my lack of knowledge is showing

[last garnet]

Im new to well not really anymore but still new to a bunch of things if you hold Ctrl + A you can auto align any selected texture

Map04 is done just need to add things

[lyric verge]

Yeah i figured that luckily lol, im just having fun making the first map

[last garnet]

Oh makeing maps is so much fun

[lyric verge]

Yeah i'm having fun here lol

[last garnet]

Until you end up doing it for 10/12 hours and you realize omg yes that did actually happen

[lyric verge]

i need to align the roofs lol

[last garnet]

Im so confused how you got custom stuff all my keep saying theres actors missing but everything works fine

Because ive been doing the same thing since i learned and its weird how it stops working

[lyric verge]

Using slade i made a new .WAD and copied the textures of every mainline doom WAD. and also inserted my customs

have you added them to these

[ornate wraith]

Usually when I make computers I think they look ok, but I'm not sure here, thoughts?

[lyric verge]

Better than what I can cook up atm lol

[last garnet]

I did the ss_start thing it normally works does adding the enemy sprite to textureX also work?

[lyric verge]

i havent dabbled with new enemies yet

why is there a stage in a base? no idea, why the hell not

Part of the first map

[lyric verge]

What do we think of the random ass theatre, guess the people on base need some entertainement

[ornate wraith]

I dig it, maybe make some curtians that rise up when you enter the room or flip a switch

[lyric verge]

Ooo thats a fire idea actually

[tough fiber]

that reminds me I need to learn polyobjects

how do those work

[lyric verge]

Do you know how to change the name on the finish screen?

[ornate wraith]

dunno

[lyric verge]

fair fair

[tough fiber]

mapinfo?

[lyric verge]

Ty

[lyric verge]

All going according to plan

[tough fiber]

please caco I need this!

my shore kinda hellless

[lyric verge]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

stupid little office cubicles

[tough fiber]

CRATOP2 wants your location

wait wtf

where's the detail

why is it a solid color

mb bro ok

[lyric verge]

also done some graphics to put on the wall

[last garnet]

Wow a lot of flat20

[last garnet]

That looks nice

[tough fiber]

I think he said those were placeholders

[lyric verge]

They are unless I purposely make it as bland as possible as its an office area

There will be a level that focuses on these fuckass things

Its bad because i kinda like having the flat 20 everywhere lmfao

I decorated the outside tho so thats nice

[last garnet]

Panel6 could look interesting

[lyric verge]

Oooo maybe

[last garnet]

how did you add custom decorations

here is map05 a bomb factory

[lyric verge]

ITS JUST ANOTHE FLAT20 LMFAOOO

I Tried to do a linedef method for decorations that are 2d but it didnt work

And the chairs and that arent custom, theyre from the Legacy Of Rust Level pack for DOOM I + II on steam

[lyric verge]

looks fire

[lyric verge]

Atleast for this level it WILL be flat 20 majority

it just looks like a sad office building i like it

[robust spear]

lol like I'd use that

I prefer Blue-Collar texture alignment

[last garnet]

Whats that?

[robust spear]

DOING IT WITH MY BARE HANDS

nah I'm kidding I'm lazier than I make myself seem

[livid sentinel]

Audience I made

Also animated

[last garnet]

Looks really good

Is it like 1 texture?

Just looks like a audience but in reality its a cardboard cutout

[livid sentinel]

A very long texture on multiple layers, and looped

Example of one of the frames

Found out how to make it a gif

[last garnet]

Thats amazing

[livid sentinel]

It took me a lot longer than I'd like to admit, every version of the textures in every color, with some not even being used

[lyric verge]

Thats fire as hell

[lyric verge]

what map is this for

[livid sentinel]

Something called "The Trial of Keys" which I've been procrastinating on.

Made a cutscene for it as well https://www.reddit.com/r/DoomMods/s/wtG8Nil47H

"Coming soon" I said over a month ago

[lyric verge]

fire as hell

Adding more silly decorative stuff to MAP 1

[livid sentinel]

After trial of keys, I'm gonna do the trial of time, where you need to beat the level in under 66.6 seconds. Then the trial of silence, where it plays like a stealth mission. Trial of stone, where you are in a haunted castle, then trial of paths, where there are tiles that you can only step on once, so you need to plan your route through the level. I want to make more but I'm not sure what to do after that.

[lyric verge]

define the limitation of trial of keys

if time is a time rush then what is the keys all about

nvm i just read it, i thought it was gonna be some find the MORE keys and it adds like purple, green, orange key etc

actual fire tho, will play when it drops

[livid sentinel]

Yeah, starting out simple, this is my second map I've made so I'm learning more as I go on

[lyric verge]

hell you got cutscenes goin on, i'd have ZERO ideas how to do allat

I always thought additional keys would be a great mod, someone needs to do that, be fun to see longer levels with the 3 keys, then more like green and purple keys etc

[livid sentinel]

For the music, I decided to do what ID did with some of their songs and take inspiration from existing rock music. Not the entire song, just the main melody. I picked Living Dead Girl by Rob Zombie

[lyric verge]

Oh fire as hell, are you gonna put all the trail maps in ONE wad

Link all the trails with a hub level or something

[livid sentinel]

Yes. And release them 1 at a time in updates

[lyric verge]

Fire as hell

will there be any custom assets other than the music?

im assuming no custom entities minus the crowd

[livid sentinel]

Not a hub though, it'll still go 1 after another

[lyric verge]

Ah I see, I assumed it'd be hub based so you could choose what trail to do

[livid sentinel]

And I have added custom sounds and textures, but I haven't learned enemies or weapons yet. The hub in the trial of keys leads to 6 rooms or mini trials with their own key. Tests with friends took roughly 20 minutes when going in blind, and 6 minutes when speedrunning

[lyric verge]

I see, it'd be very fun to play that from what i'm hearing and seeing,, can't wait to play it

[livid sentinel]

If you want to see a playthrough, I showed it off on a recent stream and I'll send the link, but if you don't want any spoilers, I understand.

[lyric verge]

Yeah no spoilers, as i'll go in blind

[livid sentinel]

Got it 👍

[last garnet]

I want to see that seems interesting

[ornate wraith]

Doom cute, love to see it

Anyways, putting a WIP here so I can access the WAD at my mom's

[robust wave]

Are those brutal doom monsters?

[haughty flower]

yes

[ornate wraith]

Very smooth and stylish animations, very cool. Reminds me of that one old school disney inspired boomer shooter that's coming out soon I think

[haughty flower]

You're probably thinking of Mouse: P.I. for Hire

[ornate wraith]

Indeed, that's it

[tough fiber]

right, that's the name

[haughty flower]

I also tried implementing Black Dahlia in here too, but I think it's pretty barebones right now.

[haughty flower]

Anyway Happy New Year everyone

[robust wave]

Yappie New Year everyone

[echo galleon]

Soooo

On gzdoom, how would I go about adding a weapons pk3 pack to another pk3

[robust spear]

10 hours til new year

[whole blade]

Just load them both

Either through a launcher or drag and drop

[lyric verge]

happiest of new years to you all

[robust wave]

Happy New Year to everyone indeed

[lyric verge]

Would it be fun to have a stupid curve from MAP01 having just sergeants and gunners to monsters like these

really mess up the roster

[robust spear]

wtf is that black revenant 😭

[lyric verge]

lord, its from realm667, it has many custom doom entities that dont overlap the og ones

i said lord cuz the link wasnt allowed btw, not at u dw

[robust spear]

whatever, it's kind of a bad idea to have difficulty spikes regardless. If you wanna make a difficult level, then go for it, just place it near the end of the WAD

[lyric verge]

I want certain areas of the overrall thing to ramp each level, thats sorta the idea but it wont be too drastic

[robust spear]

that makes sense actually

[lyric verge]

in the lore you're going down a floor of this massive corporate building overrun by demons, and the further down you go the less normal it is

[ornate wraith]

Reminds me of the maps I'm currently working on, from a cafeteria with zombie men and imps, to a revenant rush down a dark hallway. Had to rework it a bit because the 2 play testers that played them really struggled, but that's mostly because 1 never has really played doom and has bad aim, and the other one doesn't really play doom either, so I dunno how the average doomer would deal with them.

[robust spear]

Converted Soldier

[last garnet]

My map02 has chaingunners placed normally and like 3 cacaodemons map03 adds 1 hell knight and 2 cacodemons map04 has 6 cacodemons and 2 hell knights map05 is gonna have 2 revenants i tried to make the difficulty not as annoying but i think its pretty annoying if you dont save ammo

[robust spear]

happy new year to you too

[last garnet]

Oh yeah happy new years

Everyone online

the first 4 maps are done

[tough fiber]

can it run doom

[robust spear]

no

[tough fiber]

wrong

[robust spear]

holy shit

[tough fiber]

crazy how we can all identify what this is a screnshot of

a pattern recognition joke is due here