classic-doom-maps-mods

[robust wave]

But seems easy at the same time

Will try it some time. Thanks.

[whole blade]

np

Feel free to ping me if you want some help

[fading bolt]

lol

3d floor??

[fading bolt]

how do you make good outdoor areas

im pretty good at filling labs and combat bases full of stuff but i cant get my head around a forest or a urban lvl

[whole blade]

There's a handful of simple 3d floors to provide separations/walkable areas

[whole blade]

This is a tricky one to describe, but it's an extension of the "pancake technique". Draw a bunch of overlapping rough circles and then change the heights

It's very vibes based for me. I'll look at an area and think "nah that needs more" and mess around for another 40 minutes until it feels properly filled in

Less related to the specific techiniques is making your outdoor areas contiguous with the structures enclosing the indoor areas. Ie, build the outside of the building

[fading bolt]

im makeing a map of a forest were each lvl you lose all your items and start from scratch to make it harder and also just funner

[whole blade]

Forests are tricky to do, very dependent on your decorative actors (tree sprites/models, grass, leaf litter etc)

[fading bolt]

Not a full forest more like a mountain

[whole blade]

Also with outdoor areas I focus on building the gameplays spaces first. Put thing things that 'must' be in there. Essentially a block out. Detailing natural spaces can be formed around any existing structures/play spaces much more easily than the other way around

[fading bolt]

heres a tester lvl i like to make these to see if its worth makeing a actual wad based on the map (i think you will need gzdoom i dont use anything else)

also the hint for the secret is book

[fading bolt]

i did the same thing lol

[robust wave]

How does he select a side?

[whole blade]

left mouse click for the side you want to move (yellow), right mouse click for the pivot point (blue)

it will auto selecet a pivot point but if it selects something weird (or you want something weird) then you can manually set it

[old seal]

do not think so, was not oldschool

[robust wave]

More like how does he enter this mode so he can select the sides?

[whole blade]

r/woosh

[whole blade]

that you might need to manually bind

F5 to go into config

search for slope

[robust wave]

Oh, finally

[old seal]

k, get it. nobody?

[whole blade]

Do you understand the concept of "a joke"

wow.wad consists of 10 linedefs, one cyber demon and one exit switch

Anyway, your question is unanswerable. The equivalent of asking "what's the song that goes bam bam bam badum bam"

[robust wave]

Holyy

It's not just more optimized

[storm snow]

damn

[robust wave]

It also looks better

[storm snow]

looks nice

[subtle lichen]

Sick

[fading bolt]

Danm looks sick

[bitter solstice]

dead chat since 3:09 XD

(i had toooo)

[robust wave]

Uuuuuuuuuhhhh

I don't wanna drop the idea of a pentagram shaped city with a collesium in the centre

It's giant, but I'll try to stick with that idea

[subtle lichen]

Try something like a mountain

[robust wave]

Will do

There will be a large section before you enter the city

[subtle lichen]

Sick

[robust wave]

Also I've got an idea of adding a bunker with BD tank in a secret right before the city

However, taking the tank will spawn more enemies

[subtle lichen]

That sounds cool, reminds me of wolfenstein for some reason

[robust wave]

I just found a simple way with ACS to detect brutal doom

So the maps would be different with and without the mod

[subtle lichen]

Nice

I hope your mod comes out well

[robust wave]

I'm already really happy with the first map

It came out sick so I have motivation rn

[subtle lichen]

Awesome, I can't wait till it comes out

[robust wave]

This one

The first map of the mappack

[subtle lichen]

Nice, reminds me of hexen and Harry Potter

[robust wave]

It's like 99% done with only tiny tweaks left for the secret boss

[subtle lichen]

Now that's something new

[robust wave]

Every single map will have a final boss and a secret boss

And the twist of the mappack is that these bosses are made with mostly ACS

[subtle lichen]

Nice, I can't wait to download it

[bronze vigil]

You can select corner with the other key too.

And this, allow you to save a lot of time for 3D slopes. Because the other technique is tedious.

[whole blade]

[robust wave]

@subtle lichen

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/154443-acs-annihilation-of-the-cyber-sin-v1/

[subtle lichen]

Thx, I'll download it later today and try it out

[robust wave]

Would also appreciate some feedback, because it has been playtested long time ago by two people

[subtle lichen]

I'll give some feedback for sure, I can't wait to see how it goes

[tame mauve]

If u added Marie to the skullgirls mod ur making, i would cry

A lot

[unkempt grove]

does anyone know if it would be possible to make myhouse.wad with gzdoom function on a cd rom?

[robust wave]

Extermination day like bunker

[fading bolt]

hey is anyone down to make a total conversion with me you will be payed depending on if the game makes money so it will be a gamble payment will be split 3 ways cus the guy makeing music your job/role would be textures and art along with lvl makeing if your down for that i find it fun you may not feel free to dm me if you r up for it (this was ment to be a bigger project but due to some issues we needed to downscale)

[fading bolt]

looks cool

[whole blade]

This pitch gave me an aneyrism. First off, grammar. Professionalism matters when you're pitching.
Second, make up your mind what you want this to be. Total conversion =/= commercial game. I'm assuming you're talking about something Doom related given the server we're in but you have mentioned precisely nothing about anything to do with whatever this project is

[fading bolt]

I’m dyslexic I can’t spell or do grammar for the life of me + ‘this project isn’t shooting for the stars it’s going to be quite small and yes this will be a total conversion

[whole blade]

You're going to need to get over that. Grammar and spelling matter in game development as well

Eg coding

[fading bolt]

God ik scripting is a nightmare for me currently

[whole blade]

Anyway, this pitch will catch no fish

Talent attracts talent. If you want to draw people in you need to dangle shiny cool stuff infront of them. Proof of what you're working on, proof that you are dedicated to the project, proof that the project will be worth someone else's time

[fading bolt]

Iv been dedicated to this for a while it was ment to be a lot more but the person helping me do it dipped out and he’s a main component in actually getting the game done as he had way more experience In scripting just didn’t wanna do the game he joined said he’s help then never rlly did anything other than set up the project

[plush sapphire]

Well whatever details you had provided them with so they at least had an idea what they were meant to be working on might be good to include in your pitch. Just saying "a total conversion" doesn't exactly dispel the mystery surrounding what the idea is, let alone spark interest in committing to it.

[whole blade]

Proof of the pudding is in the eating. Screenshots, videos, gifs of weapon animations, enemies etc

Building a dev team is hard. People who are good at what they do tend to already be extremely busy.

Also this is not the best server for game dev recruitment. You'll be better off finding indie dev related circles

[fading bolt]

You can thank the main dev for more or less just doing nothing on the project when it wasn’t a total conversion and then makeing me panic and start makeing a doom conversion

[fading bolt]

More or less this isn’t planned due to many roadblock and problems in the development

[plush sapphire]

Given the details you've come forward with so far, I think I understand why nothing was done...

[fading bolt]

Ik the main dev was lazy didn’t help and then kept promising things he could add and then doing nothing I had the game planned out all good just for everything to go wrong now I have to think of a nearly completely different thing and rework the gameplay for it to fit dooms engine and all it’s just a headache to figure out

It’s just pain

[whole blade]

Sounds like you're better off starting from scratch

[fading bolt]

Sounds good

[plush sapphire]

Uh huh... Well I offered my two cents on your pitch. Ping replying to me about some other dude won't really do much. Bridge is right though, you get something to show when attempting to recruit, you'll be more likely to find success. Empty asks for help making some random total conversion won't garner much attention outside of literally what the two of us are doing, which is attempting to help you make an actual pitch.

[fading bolt]

Ight ima work on it ig ill post updates on it here or smth idk cya

[wooden thicket]

It's removed

[old turtle]

Quick question. Im just experimenting with the IWAD's for doom and such, how can I change it into a PWAD? Like I made it a copy and everything, but doombuilder doesn't want me to do this. I did this years ago too on an older device, so I'm not sure what changed

[random dragon]

Is there a mod for Doom 1 and 2 that enhances lighting and adds extra frames to animations and sprites? I want to kind of modernize DOOM.

Brutal Doom isn't what I'm looking for, though

The lighting has to be so crazy that it compares to like, say, one of those indie pixel games

[onyx scroll]

Smooth Doom is what you want for the animations

[random dragon]

And the Lighting?

[onyx scroll]

I personally got nothing for ya, sadly

I would never look for that stuff personally, for various reasons

if I do stumble across something I guess I'll let you know

[random dragon]

Okay thanks.

Imagine someone made DOOM RTX

[onyx scroll]

... well, that does exist

but completely lacks support for Doom 1 and also mods iirc

[random dragon]

Well my PC is shit

That's why I love DOOm

[onyx scroll]

and just does some other stuff that just looks bad

like fluid simulations on the blood for some reason

[random dragon]

What?

[onyx scroll]

I did find this mod, but might not be what exactly what you're looking for.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/relighting

It also apparently lacks support for voxels if you wanted to use those

[random dragon]

Aw god fuck

Well I won't need voxels if I want to maintain the classic DOOM experience

Thanks

[onyx scroll]

I try my best, I don't really use these types of mods, let alone GZ in general. But you're welcome!

[whole blade]

You have to create a custom comfig to get UDB to recognise a new iwad/ipk3

Or are you doing the opposite, trying to turn Doom.wad into a pwad? Don't do that. It's illegal to start with

It's also stupid

Speaking of stupid

[zenith sinew]

Holy tuff add a mango mod with a mustard cyberdemon

[sterile breach]

ok i have no idea what im doing so i dont know if this question is dumb

which one of these would i use in whacked4 if i want to do something for gzdoom

would i just use zdaemon. Again i have no idea what im doing

[onyx scroll]

Does depend what format you’re targeting

[sterile breach]

wdym

[onyx scroll]

The most universal is Doom 1.9

[onyx scroll]

Like vanilla or limit removing, Boom, MBF, etc.

Each format has their own extensions to DeHacked

Anyways, I’d just go for Doom v1.9 for now, assuming you do want your mod to work on other ports

[sterile breach]

alright, ty

[onyx scroll]

Though it does give the least amount of features and states you can play with

But it’ll work on even MS-DOS

If you do want extra stuff, I’m not familiar with the other formats but I’d personally pick Boom or MBF, the latter having more stuff than the former (in basic terms)

[sterile breach]

is there anyway i can see what features each has

if you get what i mean

[onyx scroll]

You can probably find documentation online

I just don’t know specific sources

GitHub and Doomwiki might be good ideas to check, though

Also, specifically doomwiki.org, not the Fandom one

Though I will say generally (with vanilla, boom, and MBF), they will basically have all the same stuff from the prior one (going from vanilla to MBF21)

At least in terms of their dehacked

[old turtle]

Not sure how that's really illegal, but idk any of the laws about it so gonna take your word for it lol, and I guess im just trying to get UDB to recognize the IWAD so I can mess with it

[old turtle]

Tried to do some research on my issue. Most I came up with in terms of legality is that it's illegal to distribute edited IWADs, so that's fine with me. I just want to personally mess with the original wads

[sterile breach]

is there a way to make the chainsaw rev noises not play

[sterile breach]

https://tenor.com/view/palla-deserto-desert-hot-gif-6014273

[elfin garden]

maybe try using slade3 to replace the sound with a silent one

[velvet wolf]

reddit wasn't very helpful so does anyone here know how to package a level made in UDB with the legacy of rust assets? i made a level using all the new stuff from it in the UDMF format and i'd like to share the download with my friends but it never comes with the LOR stuff with it when you boot it up in gzdoom.

lots of missing textures and stuff when you load up the game. it's all the LOR that's missing so i'm assuming there's just a way i need to pack it all up i'm just not sure how to do that.

[velvet wolf]

looking at a level i'm currently working on in gzdoom that has added textures is yielding the same results so i guess i just don't know how to properly package my levels

[fresh sparrow]

does anyone know what happened to the flotsam map series and where bemused went?

[storm charm]

redefine a new chainsaw from scratch in decorate and use inheritance in order to change the chainsaw sounds, then replace the old chainsaw with the new one?

[storm charm]

there is a patch called Legacy Of Rust Zdoom Edition or LORZD, i think the devloper changed the name of it but it's for zandronum and zdoom scripts, it replaces all code with decorate or something, and makes it compatible with zandornum and gzdoom. here you'll need it i have a link right here

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/149943-legacy-of-rust-zandronum-edition/

[onyx scroll]

You can’t package commercial assets in your WAD

So basically in short the people who play your map have to provide id1.wad themselves

[velvet wolf]

Bummer

I think I’m also just kinda confused on packaging my wads in general. Any good tutorials on that?

[onyx scroll]

To be honest I’ve never really dealt with that but maybe look at DoomTools? Not a tutorial but a set of tools that might have something you need.

[velvet wolf]

That sounds like it might have what I need. Thanks :)

[sterile breach]

This is freaking awesome.

[elfin garden]

wym

[shadow tiger]

Hey does anyone know where the strife dialogue binds are in GZDOOM? I'm trying to play Pizza Quest 2 but I can't progress the dialogue at the beginning.

[peak anchor]

doom 2 mod old roblox

its not finished tho

btw if you whana test it just ask me

[peak anchor]

any maps ideas for doom 2 wad?

in ultimate doom builder

???

[icy notch]

no

[fading bolt]

No

[acoustic grove]

No

[robust wave]

No

[fading bolt]

pic of a map im makeing (wip)

[dark pagoda]

Huh

you have a floor above a floor (oh god there's slowmode)

I presume you're not making this in original doom engine, then?

Oh, I see
Ultimate Doom Builder

[scenic tusk]

sure hope everybody got to see this amazing trailer by now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6e8WrmOibpM

[fading bolt]

3d floor

The maps completely redone

I’m nearly done with it

[fading bolt]

chat i just lost a map cus of slade saveing over the map with the temp one i used to open slade and add a title pic

[fading bolt]

iv remade it

not finished tho

[upper meadow]

This is technically it's own own game rather than a mod, but it uses the Doom engine so I guess it qualifies? It's a slower-paced horror fps set in hell. Been working on this for over a year and will soon be putting together the first proper gameplay demo. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZY9XuvX2lgg

[fading bolt]

I’d give a map download but it’s unfinished and the first maps more just setting up to give a shotgun to the player and get them going

[scenic tusk]

nice this looks pretty dope, is it a mod? does it have a moddb page?

[upper meadow]

Not a mod, It's its own game. It has a discord server currently.

[desert patio]

has anyone here played the Darkfall mod for doom 1/2
cause holy shit its so good

[peak anchor]

xd

[worldly folio]

This looks so dope dude

[worldly folio]

It plays well but wish the sprites were cleaner looking instead of them being ripped from dark ages...unless they changed it

[upper meadow]

Thank you! The level itself sucked, though. I just slapped it together to test the assets. I'll make a more proper gameplay demo soon.

[scenic tusk]

lol is that just the doom mod with doom dark ages weapons?

[scenic tusk]

wow that's awesome, what engine is it on?

[desert patio]

yea lol

[scenic tusk]

pretty cool looking but I for sure prefer full total conversions

[onyx scroll]

probably GZDoom

[desert patio]

such as?

[scenic tusk]

like aliens extraction, ashes 2063, diamond dragon, and then paid ones as well likes selaco, beyond sunset, supplice, postapoliptic vibes, ect...

[desert patio]

ohh
nice nice

[upper meadow]

Gzdoom aka modified Doom engine. I use Ultimate Doom Builder for level design.

[scenic tusk]

very nice!!

[fading bolt]

im makeing a tc currently but i cant find any helpful sources to get it running without doom 2

and i hate reading :/

i dont mind reading but when it drones on and on i give up

[upper meadow]

You can download a game template that has all you need to get started making a standalone game.

[whole blade]

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=70232

[fading bolt]

iv attempted to run it but its just coming up with errors when i do

i cant find a fix for the cvars

[fading bolt]

Execution could not continue.
Script error, "MyStandaloneGame.ipk3:defcvars.txt" line 3:
Must declare version for defcvars! (currently: 225)

i want to die

iv been at this for like an hour

[obsidian gust]

not really a map post but i really wanted to show the hud i've made for my project

and yes ik the mugshot frame is a bit misaligned, i'll get that fixed

[peak anchor]

XD

[haughty flower]

mods is anyone here actually a dev or is it unofficial

[subtle lichen]

There are id software and Bethesda employees in the server, but most of the people in this channel post unofficial mods

[haughty flower]

ok 👍

[scenic tusk]

claude/gpt is no help?

[subtle lichen]

This gotta be the most reactions I've gotten in one message

[fading bolt]

Yep

[dim ivy]

does there is any wad editor better than xwe?

i hate xwe because it does make a default offset

[onyx scroll]

Ultimate Doom Builder by far

[dim ivy]

to edit sprites

like Doom Logo

[onyx scroll]

Well you need an external program to actually make the sprites themselves, but Slade is generally your best option

[dim ivy]

Slade crashes in my PC

idk why, it just dont want to work

[upper meadow]

He said wad editor. UDB is level editor.

[whole blade]

.wad is the most common map file format

It can also refer to the total project

[onyx scroll]

I had only done a quick search on XME and saw a level editor and made an assumption on that, completely ignoring they even Slade had a built in editor.

[red plinth]

might use this in a WAD some day

[idle cairn]

Is the pink valley creator here

[scenic tusk]

found better ones on realm 667, jk 😄

[idle cairn]

Can someone port pink valley to the Xbox port

[fading bolt]

Try downgradeing to an older version

[fading bolt]

id just get a pc at this point lol

[dim ivy]

i've tried even the first one

[fading bolt]

idk if its even possible but try finding a beta verison of slade lol

[karmic delta]

hey

so is it possible in dehacked to have chainguns behave like they do in 2016 (like the buildup to fast fire at start)

[onyx scroll]

I don't think so? At least in Vanilla.

There might be something I'm missing or there might be something you can do with Boom or MBF.

But to be honest I'm not quite sure.

[narrow laurel]

I don't think anyone would have thought of making sprites for an air rifle.

[whole blade]

I assume so. Wind up chainguns already exist in doom mods

[silver ridge]

Can Anyone recommend someone to help me get better at ACS scripting? Like a YouTube?

[scenic tusk]

you'd be surprised! lol

[narrow laurel]

It's hard to get started with this mod thing, these are my first sprites... And the first idiot has already appeared saying there are better ones. I don't see anything constructive in your opinion.

It's a shame that the first impression you give of your personality is that you're an idiot.

[idle cairn]

Where’s pixel scuba

[whole blade]

The wiki is very helpful

Other than that, fuck around and find out

https://zdoom.org/wiki/ACS

[peak anchor]

xd

[peak anchor]

i dont think that you can put this in mp3 format in slade xd

[onyx scroll]

Completely depends on the port. Some will accept MP3, like GZDoom.

iirc DSDA-Doom will also accept it

[peak anchor]

does zdoom supports mp3?

cuz idk realy xd and wav as music also

on zdoom and gzdoom

[onyx scroll]

Looks like it does

[peak anchor]

ok man xd

https://tenor.com/view/tesco-nektarynki-nectarines-polish-poland-gif-5932735716749667944

[peak anchor]

how do i convert png to bmp in slade whith colors cuz i can do only whith black and white colors xd

pls help me i dont know what to do now

HELP

[whole blade]

Demands will get you nowhere

[peak anchor]

pluh

[peak anchor]

[whole blade]

Doom uses a specific palette. You've either selected the wrong palette, or the image you're trying to convert is not compatible

[peak anchor]

what pallet i shoud use

[whole blade]

Whatever palette you are using

There's 100s

Standard is literally called the Doom palette

[summer wolf]

the spider's courtyard awaits you...

[karmic delta]

so does anyone here know how to sprite doom? i wanna make an smg from the boxart (and an unused enemy)

[marsh veldt]

I didn’t think Do not play.WAD would be that scary tbh

[karmic delta]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1377519660760698880/1403169300952387644/download.gif

[fading bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-neighbor-like-subscribe-bell-hello-neighbour-hello-neighbor-2-hello-neighbour-2-gif-2484330488843852459

peak

[dawn crypt]

Agreed

[hot merlin]

Yoo

Do you guy's know any modern or best guns mods with inspection feature or just cool

[odd wind]

I know this isn’t really a map mod, but does anyone know how I can get brutal doom to launch on GZ doom without having to do any extra steps

[royal wave]

Drag and drop the pk3 onto gzdoom.exe

[odd wind]

Yeah, that’s what I’ve been doing, but I was wondering if there was another way I can do it by just launching the game without having to do that

[royal wave]

Make a batch file that runs a command that tells gzdoom to launch brutal

[odd geode]

Change this to gzdoom.exe

And just open the game from this pk3

That's what I did

Then I made a shortcut to the pk3 on desktop and I just play from there

It should automatically open brutal doom after u change the opens with

[karmic delta]

btw yall know how to do this on windows? i followed the steps but it still isnt working https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/141326-voxel-rendering-for-sw-ports/ (trying it on chocolate doom)

[whole blade]

Extremely unlikely chocolate doom supports this

[idle cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/asgore-undertale-deltarune-gif-8006577193793263180

[golden fractal]

Anyone got any recommendations for GZdoom stuff? Im new to GZdoom

And I already got brutal doom and MYHOUSE.wad

[robust wave]

Like interesting mappacks, gameplay mods and etc?

[golden fractal]

Anything just fun and new

Also mod conversions are fun ^^

[robust wave]

Among some cool wads I would recommend are After Doom, Extermination Day (Official Brutal Doom campaign) and Winter's Fury. These are currently some of my favorite wads.

[robust wave]

Yeah, I'm even trying to make one

[golden fractal]

Nice

[robust wave]

Themed around Diep.io

[golden fractal]

I also have a ralsei companion mod and what????

[robust wave]

Hoyl shiiit

[golden fractal]

If your wondering im playing it on my phone

[robust wave]

So cute

[golden fractal]

IK! ^^

[golden fractal]

Also diep.io?

[robust wave]

The total conversion mod I'm making

[golden fractal]

Ah

[golden fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-burns-vingança-revenge-plano-os-simpsons-gif-7301613252224590441

I want this…

[whole blade]

Bastion of Chaos, Lullaby, Coma Moonlight, Paradise, Hurt

[clever steppe]

is there an area i can upload wad's

or this is the area

[golden fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-dragon-ball-super-dbs-goku-son-goku-gif-17808904

Thanks

[whole blade]

This is the channel

[twin verge]

So i dont know where to ask this so apologies if this isnt the place but ill go ahead. Im currently going into my 4th and final year of university and really wanted to make something im deeply interested in and something that is sorta a passion project.

I really want to make a og doom style fps game, like a small level, nothing too big cause im mainly an artist. Not to mention i get given from september to december for pre production and then from january to may is full production. I was wanting to at least get some help on knowing peoples workflow in creating assets for a og doom like game. Like creating enemy and weapon sprites and importing them into something like unity, and even texturing/surfacing.

I know this is alot to ask of people so im not expecting anybody to take time out of their day to teach me, but if anyone has any useful links to resources that i could use to learn i appreciate it. For context since im in university i already generally know how to model, texture and all sorts, Ive looked up stuff but i never know, theres always something unique people have to share and that would be cool.

For enemy and weapon sprites i assumed i would just model them in something like blender for example, then take pictures of the enemies in different poses and such. Just wanting to know if im also right in that

[whole blade]

What engine are you actually using though.

[twin verge]

Would be using unity

[whole blade]

That's a decision you need to make before talking about workflows

[twin verge]

Yeah i probably shouldve led with what i was using first

[whole blade]

You can model, rig and animate in whatever your preferred tool of choice is

If you want to do sprites you can make each frame by hand, or animate a model and have it batch render 2d sprites from that animation

Blender is extremely powerful, but also has a steep learning curve

[twin verge]

Been using it for a while but yeah im still learning new things 😅

[whole blade]

I'm assuming that if you're in your 4th year of uni you already have a decent amount of base competency in something

Whether it's Maya, zbrush, blender etc

[twin verge]

Yep, all lf those

Started with using 3ds max when i was in college, not the best first choice

[whole blade]

Blender is what most people use because it's free (and very powerful)

Or most indie devs rather

[twin verge]

My workflow has been basically blender for modelling and unwrapping, substance painter for low poly stuff, then for high poly its been zbrush, maya for retopo, blender for unwrapping and then substance painter for texturing

[whole blade]

Anyhoo, next thing to plan out is scope. Write a design doc. It doesn't matter if it's "good", you just need to get ideas down that you can iterate from

You have a limited time frame so locking in your broad plan for the game is important

Part of the design doc can be whether your using models or sprites, high poly or low poly etc

Reference existing games as comparative examples

[twin verge]

How long are design docs usually, or does it really depend?

[whole blade]

Depends

Mine is mostly spread sheets

[twin verge]

Ah valid, i like using powerpoint so would that be good?

[whole blade]

Whatever works for you. There is no "right way"

Format becomes more important in a team

Because it's not just for personal use, it's to communicate with other devs

[twin verge]

Ah yea okay that makes sense

I appreciate the help, even if the info might seem "trivial", its really helping me get started

[whole blade]

No worries

[golden fractal]

Does anyone know the wad that is the entirety of doom 1 as one map???

[rocky mist]

Doom Infinite is a go to for me rn

Turns the game into a Rougelike

[robust wave]

https://www.moddb.com/games/doom-compile-project

[valid basin]

which floor is the black key door on in episode 3 of brutal wolfenstein?

[dense wave]

I’m on Chromebook btw

[valid basin]

whats that

[dense wave]

Moon man doom

Will it work

[valid basin]

bruh

[clever steppe]

heres my wad

[sinful salmon]

G'day, I haven't played the original DOOM in years and ever since 1 and 2 were combined in Ultimate DOOM, I can't remember/figure out how to mod with GZDoom. Anyone willing to help my slow brain?

[robust wave]

What happened to my sprites???

Why the frick is it fixed now

No idea what caused it and what fixed it

[scenic tusk]

ah the joys of game dev

hope everyone got a chance to try the recently updated indiana jones mod for doom called Venturous, it's pretty insane, complete with 6 episodes, all new maps, weapons and enemies, and even some new mechanics https://www.moddb.com/downloads/venturous-152

[robust wave]

Doop

[robust wave]

The forbidden health bonus

[ashen herald]

anyone know what doom map builder this is?

trying to learn how to map and i wanna use the same one as this person

[whole blade]

Ultimate doombuilder

Says (blurrily) at the top of the window

[ashen herald]

ah

where can i download that?

[whole blade]

Whomp
https://devbuilds.drdteam.org/ultimatedoombuilder/

You want the x64 version

[ashen herald]

thank you

[whole blade]

Np

[ashen herald]

do you know any good tutorials for using ultimate doom builder

[scenic tusk]

@whole blade has some on his youtube channel actually but if you just youtube ultimate doom builder you'll find alot

[whole blade]

DavidN has some really good beginner mapper tutorials

https://youtu.be/EucWtn__O8Q?si=JHtVlHuKxEY1dprE

[fading bolt]

you get 15 BROWN96s out of 10 for posting this image

[sonic ginkgo]

More palette testing stuff that doesn't rlly apply as doom artwork

[random dragon]

So I may be stupid
but uhh
How do I apply 2 mods at once?
Google aint helping

[karmic delta]

i think you gotta select both mod wad files and drag them to gzdoom (or whatever source port you're using idk) some might not be compatible together tho

[whole blade]

Or you can use a launcher like ZDL

[cursive lance]

Nah don't use that, use Doom Launcher

you can not only play with multiple wads or pk3s in the same game, but you can even choose what sourceports you use.

[whole blade]

ZDL is tried and tested

Been using it for 20 years

[scenic tusk]

ZDL is how I play all my mods, works like a charm

[deep vessel]

This looking good so far?

[tribal spindle]

Cheese 🧀

[lavish monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/cheese-gif-25732604

[scenic tusk]

looks like a doom map to me! 🙂

[deep vessel]

Thank

[karmic delta]

is there a human upscaled doom? i tried looking for one but all i see is ai upscaling

[deep vessel]

Is there a way to align these two pieces separately?

[summer wolf]

as far as I know nope

[fading bolt]

no cus doom just doesnt work like that

walls are all one texture and the only way you can split them up is with the lil dot things (forgot what they were called lol) and even then its only vertical

i mean there may be like a source port or map format that gets rid of this problem but idk

[fading bolt]

yeah id just say use more textures an stuff

does anyone have any good medivial texture packs

planning on makeing a castle lvl

[whole blade]

In UDMF format yes, you can give upper, mid and lower textures independent alignments. In non UDMF format (ie, everything else), no. But if you want the upper and lower textures to aling properly on the y axis, hit the upper and lower unpeg flags on the linedef

[chilly fog]

This month is the one year anniversary of Zekar 3D

[muted sonnet]

Anybody know why my Wad is doing this in Kex engine ? the maps are in boom format,
no scripts ln Slade just umapinfo.

[scenic tusk]

might have to ask in the night dive discord if you don't get answer here I know they have rooms specifically for that there

[muted sonnet]

Ok thanks

[muted sonnet]

Sorry what's UI ?

[chilly fog]

how'd you get the UI to look like that?

[broken trellis]

It means user interface. Basically how the display of the game looks

[broken trellis]

In the Kex port, you can max out the display size if I remember correctly

[muted sonnet]

I think it's on auto in kex engine

[robust wave]

Nice maps. Beaten on UV. Maps were pretty easy, but not boring.
MAP01: just nicely done small tech base, tho I don't like a walk-over exit. Would be better with a switch.
MAP02: I suppose it's unfinished due to the plain geometry, but that computer and blue key room look great.
MAP03: there are several things I find weird. The blue armor that can't be reached. Arachnotron feels out of place due to the corridor being thin. What's with that hell knight? I like the fake exit with a broken road detail, but I don't like that for some reason the real exit is not marked with the exit sign.

[lavish monolith]

I'll take that into account

[lavish monolith]

Updated

[vocal trail]

I don't think maping is my thing...

[lavish monolith]

maybe not

[bitter solstice]

[fading bolt]

nah bro thats the best lvl desgine iv seen in 47 years

[summer wolf]

damn Lunar Eclipse 2 is looking real good 🔥

[gentle cloak]

Peak

[silver ridge]

I don't know what is going on. before I made the second map everything was working fine

I did notice the s in line 10

[tribal prawn]

How do I fix this? HXRTC's hud looks absolutely tiny even though I'm using the right screen resolution (16:9)

[novel bramble]

maybe go to the hud option and go to status bar, it could possibly resolve it?

[tribal prawn]

I tried to change the ingame screensize, didn't work

nvm found the fix, just needed to turn on "stretch fullscreen hud"

[novel bramble]

ah alright, nice that you fixed it, what mod is this btw?

[tribal prawn]

OLSS, a mod I'm working on, wanna try?

I plan on getting a (somewhat) stable release soon

[novel bramble]

uhh i don't have my laptop with me rn but sure i guess

[silver ridge]

I have been trying to look at videos for acs scripting. I can't seem to find anything on using multiple switches to open a door. kinda like a puzzle

[whole blade]

You need to learn how to do "if" functions and use variables

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1wks0o7Pow&list=PLuDCrjOek9njK8hXkZmTxaU8PWzjzGql7

Haven't watched these so I can't guarantee the answer is here, but Chubz does decent tutorials

[silver ridge]

I did scripting in amnesia the dark descent. But this is different

[robust wave]

My total conversion mod

[silver ridge]

I actually did watch it. and it says nothing about it

[whole blade]

Haven't watched these so I can't guarantee the answer is here

[tribal prawn]

ayo

[fading bolt]

looks sick im workin on one as well

[tribal prawn]

now THAT is a Total Conversion, looks amazing!

Although, i have a request....

[fading bolt]

well its not a tc more just a game made in the gzdoom engine

[robust wave]

Honestly, I have no idea what total conversion means

[novel bramble]

basically means that you change all textures and behaviors of some stuff like weapons, monsters etc.

[robust wave]

Well, only Doom thing I left here is font. Haven't made that yet.

[bold frost]

wouldn't conversion mean to keep the same?

[novel bramble]

idk, probably not

conversion as a word means to change to something else

wait

oooh okay wait, yeah your right

[novel bramble]

okay i looked further and no, i haven't seen conversion used as a term
total conversion - change everything about the game to the point not being doom
partial conversion- change some parts about the game while keeping other parts intact

i think you were just confusing it? idk

[silver ridge]

That's what I'm doing in amnesia the dark descent

Amnesia takes alot longer though

[bold frost]

I swear I've heard the term conversion used to describe games transferred to different coding languages or operating systems so yeah there is some change but still it just doesn't sound right

[novel bramble]

nope

in doom i don't think that's what it means really

[sinful flame]

I think the term conversion came about for games that used to be considered ports but are technically remakes/demakes due to being built from scratch for that system and sometimes (not always) using altered or new assets to fit the system’s graphics capabilities since stuff like an Atari 2600 version of an arcade game is completely different technically and whatnot

I could be wrong though

[bold frost]

Yeah this is exactly what I was thinking of thank you

[sinful flame]

total/partial conversion in the context of doom wads is more of its own thing and about how much of the assets are changed and utilize the original IWAD resources

[storm charm]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/robocop-vs-terminator-deathmatch/downloads/robocop-vs-terminator-robocop-edition-cop-co-op-update

robert cop

[silver ridge]

when Apply action specials is checked it means I press use. right?

[novel bramble]

yes

[silver ridge]

I thought so. I messed up on a door. I wanted to use a switch. I tried redoing it and it still opened by interacting

[whole blade]

You'll need to remove the line action on the door itself and make a new one ay your chosen switch location

Note in vanilla this will be a different type of action

[ripe pagoda]

Do anybody how can I create a doom wad?

[tribal spindle]

Your Patrick I'm sure you can figure it out👍🙂

[novel bramble]

just download ultimate doom builder

and im sure there are tutorials for udb

[ripe pagoda]

Okay thanks

[ripe pagoda]

autism

[tribal spindle]

🙂

[novel bramble]

i love doom mapping

i should link a doomworld of my wad here

[royal wave]

What’s stopping you

[tribal spindle]

What's in the way?

Something

[novel bramble]

idk tbh

[royal wave]

So then

Do it?

[ripe pagoda]

I think I’m gonna work on a doom wad about my old house

And ofc put a lot of mysteries in it

[novel bramble]

a wad i made like a week ago
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/154789-beauty-and-the-beast-vanilla-limit-removing

[robust wave]

Pet the machine

[robust wave]

Are there any other mods that are just as ridiculous as Endless Madness 2? That shit was crazy and I loved every second of it.

[light needle]

Is there any Other Mod that is Like brutal Doom or Project brutality

[robust spear]

Try Project Babel

it's brutal doom with a lot less testosterone

but it's more faithful to the original

[light needle]

Thanks

[wild beacon]

buenas, quisiera saver como o cual o cuales mods son los que se necesitan para que el doom de 1993 se juegue como el eternal??

[robust spear]

You may be talking about Brutal Doom

Working on a level that has crushers & grinders that break apart flesh, like some kinda industrial sacrifice chamber. I'm struggling with a name tho, so I need a bit of voting to happen 😭

1 - The Meatgrinder
2 - The Hell Machine
3 - Flesh & Metal
4 - The Blood Pit

[sinful flame]

Abattroire

[robust spear]

O

thats not bad actually

[sinful flame]

I was joking, the name was already taken by a plutonia map

[robust spear]

FUCKING PLUTONIA-

[novel bramble]

how about visceral mush?

[robust spear]

That's not terrbible...

last thing I need right now is more options x_x

[novel bramble]

oop

[robust spear]

nah ur gud dw :3

[novel bramble]

can i try the wad after all of this? :3

[robust spear]

Oh, yeah ofc!

[robust spear]

(probably not until a lot later into the day bc it's still a work in progress)

[novel bramble]

oh aight, good luck on it tho!

[wild beacon]

Me refiero a tener los puños, la cuchilla, el lanza granadas, tener la super escopeta con gancho

A eso me refiero, el proyect brutality y el brutal doom los e probado, muy buenos, pero me refiero...llevar la experiencia del eternal al clásico

[karmic delta]

meatgrinder

[robust spear]

https://tenor.com/view/v1-ultrakill-ballin-meme-gif-27605211

[novel bramble]

ultrakill mentioned

[robust spear]

thamk u :D

[robust spear]

Happens an unsurprising amount on this server

[karmic delta]

neuron activation happened when i saw meatgrinder as a choice

[proud tusk]

I have a suggestion for The Hell Machine and The Blood Pit if youre still struggling

I was thinkin maybe The Hell Machine could be called "Organic Pistons", and then call The Blood Pit "Heart Of The Machine" or somethin like that

Only an idea tho and im not too smart so,.,.

[robust spear]

All of them are the same level xD

I was wondering which title would be the best out of the options

[proud tusk]

Oh sorry i thought it was a miniWAD😭

Also i think Flesh and Metal is the best name

[robust spear]

Yeah I've been starting to feel like that was the best one, cuz of the 2016 reference

the vote was kinda useless, but it did help me lay out my thoughs -.-"

[proud tusk]

I mean it was good to hear others opinions still

[robust spear]

yeah

[robust spear]

It's one level in an 11-level long WAD

[proud tusk]

Oh wow

Im js tryna make a 4 level miniWAD

Ive got:
Mugshots
Splashscreens
Logo

I just need a laptop to start mapping and shit

[robust spear]

hm

Well, good luck man :3

[proud tusk]

Thanks!!! But sadly i dont think im gonna be abke to get said laptop :[

Ive asked some friends for help on mapping and such but they arent too experienced in doom

My brother has a laptop but unfortunstely he wont let me borrow it despite never using it

[robust spear]

Map tip: put a pinkie and a shotgunner around every corner

[karmic delta]

500 chaingunners

[robust spear]

plutonia

[karmic delta]

the humble archvile when you're right in the open with no cover

[proud tusk]

The mystic pinky returning from the dead for the 58th time in a row thansk to the secret archvile in the walls

[novel bramble]

why did i get a ghostping here

[sinful flame]

I think because sometimes a spam bot posts something in every channel and gets nuked immediately because it's like four images in a row or something

[novel bramble]

oh, i don't think so tho, i have this channel and roughly every channels on only mention so

[sinful flame]

oh they probably used at-everyone or something as well

[royal wave]

Happy 20th anniversary to GZDoom

[sinful flame]

because obviously these accounts want attention

[bold frost]

Hell machine sounds cool, but personally I probably would name it "Bloody Smithereens"

[royal wave]

Bloody smithereens is a good name

[scenic tusk]

GZDoom 20 year anniversary!

[robust spear]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yes-sir-yayy-kataman-gif-12260883688244422951

[novel bramble]

and they still keep texture filtering on by default 🥹

[karmic delta]

i swear i hate texture filtering, it just makes the game look more blurry

[sinful flame]

DOOM 64 sprites age surprisingly well with texture filtering but yeah I keep it off for anything else DOOM typically

[karmic delta]

i swear it looks like how my glasses look smeared (yes i have glasses)

[novel bramble]

peak (i have them too)

[novel bramble]

i, i keep texture filtering off for doom 64...

yeah yeah boo at me

[sinful flame]

I don't think I found the option to turn it off for the Nightdive port which was the last time I played some fo it (I didn't get far)

[karmic delta]

tbh when i first used gzdoom i basically thought "what the fuck are these textures"

now i got perfect presets to basically make my gzdoom look just like choco doom

tbh if somethings pixellated i keep it pixellated

[proud tusk]

Am I allowed to post spriting progress for a mod that redoes mout of doomguys sprites

Or would that go in artwork

[robust wave]

This channel is about modding, so yeah

[proud tusk]

Tysm

So im workin on sprite overhauls/custom sprites for a miniWAD called memories and made this chainsaw design I call Mr. Gibs.

Im struggling to figure out if this looks right, the idea is that its essentially 2 knives crammed into the motors which makes then stab infront of it repeatedly
Does it look right or should I edit it?

[robust wave]

Looks pretty nice, tho the artstyle is different. Unless the artstyle is intentional. Makes it look a bit cartoony.

<3 Mr. Gibs

[proud tusk]

Artstyle change was intended, as I already have the headshots made

Ik not too solid on the diagonal shooting ones. And befoee you ask, it is meant to be staring right at you the entire time

Which was another personal choice of mine

Do the diagonals look alright??

[robust wave]

Holy sheiat it looks creepy

[proud tusk]

Its the intent!! Im glad it worked our

[robust wave]

They look fine

[proud tusk]

I already also have a splashscreen, main menu screen and basic premise done

[proud tusk]

Okay, thx for resolving my fears

On the right is the splashscreen, left is logo

[robust wave]

i'm barely a spriter, so seeing unique artstyles is really cool

[robust wave]

Groovy

Or wy

[proud tusk]

I am essentially MOSTLY set asides for the fact i have no laptop to use GZDoom or UDB to make levels and test them

So im currently at a standstill rn

As soon as i xan get smth to run UDB i am gonna go ham
For now, I'm gonna make floor textures and doors n such

But first i must finish the weapons! Mr. Gibs needs some friends, after all!

Ive only got 2 done💔

[robust wave]

Mr. Gibs needs a Mr. Bang or smth

Rocket launcher Mr. Boom and plasma rifle Mr. Zap :D

[proud tusk]

I was thinking of naming my soon to be rocket launcher resprite "Guspowder"

I like Mr. Zap tho Mr. Zap is now staying

[robust wave]

Gustavo powder

[proud tusk]

That shall be the long name,... yes...

Mr. Bang can be used for the Super Shotgun too!

As for Chaingun, pistol, BFG and default shotgun? No clue

[robust wave]

Mr. Ratata, Mr. Pew

[proud tusk]

I was thinking of making the BFG be called Ben

[robust wave]

Big Ben

[proud tusk]

YES

big ben as solidified as well as Ms. Pow

[robust wave]

Such funny names for the weapons while playing as an eldritch horror

[proud tusk]

Lol true

Ms. Pow will be the pistol
Mr. Pow is the default Shotgun

[robust wave]

Valid

[proud tusk]

Mr. Zap is Plasma Rifle
Big Ben is BFG
Mr. Gibs is Chainsaw
Sgt. Boom can be the rocket launcher (not fully settled on it)

[robust wave]

Btw what are you even going to be killing with funny weapons as a horror monster?

[proud tusk]

Probably the demons for a while still

I plan for each kevel to be lengthy, but have a flashback tunnel that leads into pitch black before going into a concrete room, displaying some old memories of them

[robust wave]

Seems like it going to have very uncanny and liminal vibe?

[proud tusk]

A bit yeah

The levels are split between each chapter if i can make each chapter 1 lvl long, and would be named:

the bad days
worsening
i cant take it
air

air is going to be based off of this rough idea i made for it

[robust wave]

I can't take it sounds depressing. Seems like some deep and mysterious lore.

[proud tusk]

At the end of i cant take it, there will be a fully red door that is surrounded by blood(maybe?? not sure yet)
when opened, the level ends and transitions into air, where you will have no weapons but your fists.
And when interracting with Mr. Pow, who sits idly at the horizon of the fields, you will end the level once more

And thats the full miniWAD!! :]

[robust wave]

Sound very atmospheric. Noice

[proud tusk]

Thank you!!! I got a bit inspired by the weirdly un-city-like levels of doom ii

Not sure how im gonna pull off the grass or backdrops however

Those ill have to figure out when i can

[robust wave]

I wish you luck then!

[proud tusk]

Im off to do Ms. Pow, so hopefully she is easier than Mr. Gibs. Cya, have a good day!

[robust wave]

You too!

[proud tusk]

I just did the Mr. Gibs minisprite and was wondering if it lives up to it's glory . What do you think?

Did some work for Ms. Pow, however I feel like it's missing something.
Right side is my inspo

[novel bramble]

it good but honestly it looks too thick for me

or basically too big, but thats just me

[proud tusk]

I think it might be the black around it

Ill try getting rid of most kf it ajd see how it goes

[proud tusk]

How's this? I dechunked it a lil

[novel bramble]

that's an improvement

even though its still looks a bit thick, this revision is so much better

[proud tusk]

To be fair this is gonna be a relativelg stylised miniWAD, as you might be able to tell lol

Im just trying to get it as relatively accurate as i can

[novel bramble]

oh, sorry

[proud tusk]

Ty very much for feedback tho!!! It helped

I do prefer it just the bit slimmer

[novel bramble]

hey np!

[proud tusk]

Also, are you able to tell me if the tiny Mr. Gibs fits the big sprite ver?

[novel bramble]

yeah, it fits

[proud tusk]

Thank you!! Now i can go on for a bit without worry

[karmic delta]

this isnt the right doom 64 bro

[proud tusk]

Do these angles look alright??

[subtle lichen]

Yes

[subtle lichen]

Air guitar

[sinful flame]

Doomguy: "Freeze or I'll shoot!"

[proud tusk]

Ms. Pow is almost finished as of now!!!

Still have
A LOT to do in terms of spriting cus i might want it to be multiplayer

[proud tusk]

Ive come across a dillema:
I dont know how im gonna change the shotgun at all

I get sometimes they dont need to be changed but even then i'd like it to have more flavour than it currently does

And since this redoes every weapon sprite itll need to be done

[proud tusk]

Yall does this look good for Mr. Pow? I based him off of a Mossberg 500 Compact Cruiser, but I wanted to make Mr. Pow shine like metal
Reference for Mr. Pow on the right

[mossy fern]

You're missing the safety

[proud tusk]

The lil slider uptop?

[mossy fern]

Yup

[robust wave]

Barrel gonna get hot and ouchie for hands

[proud tusk]

True... good thing theres a handle tho

[proud tusk]

Ill convert that lil grey box into the slider as it is in the same rough position

[mossy fern]

Alright

[robust wave]

That means you would have to make a different hand placement

[proud tusk]

True, which i will

Im not afraid to change up positions, i actually feel like itd bea nice exercise to do

As of now ive only been loosely following the actual hand positions but now it,l feel abit more unique

[proud tusk]

How's this?

[mossy fern]

I think it should be skinnier

[proud tusk]

Do know that this WAD is mainly stylised for the weapons and headsprites, i shoulda said that firsgbut i was too focused on gettin help for it lol

[mossy fern]

I don't understand, may you explain?

[proud tusk]

Essentially instead of going for a super realistic/DOOM accurate look, im going to be mainly stylising it to be a bit like doom but not fully

Two examples are Mr. Gibs and the headsprites
Mr. Gibs is a full repsrite of the chainsaw that uses two super sharp knives that were jammed into the moto of a broken chainsaw
Headsprites dont have a name yet, nor a description i can rely on

Im also going to be chainging some of the textures/assets of floors and ceilings and such to match with this stylisation

[mossy fern]

Understood

[proud tusk]

Tysm for the help tho, it still assists me as this is my very first WAD! ^^

[novel bramble]

like, ever??

its rare to see people actually doing texture work in their first wad

[proud tusk]

Yea this is my first WAD ever
Im putting a lot of love into it

[novel bramble]

thats what i like to see, good luck

[proud tusk]

Also: just finished Mr. Pow's base sprites for now! Adding the hands is gonna be so much easier🙏

[novel bramble]

reminds me of duke nukem shotgun

[proud tusk]

I based it off the Mossberg 500 Compact Cruiser, so they may have similar references

[proud tusk]

I've finished Mr. Gibs, Ms. and Mr. Pow

Feels like a completionist sheet lol

[proud tusk]

Updated it to include Mr. Pow's engravement of chalk as well as his item sprite

[novel bramble]

im late for this but the fact the pickup face is them crying just sends out a whole different message

[proud tusk]

Do you want the messages for each weapon?

[novel bramble]

sure

i have never been this interested for a wad before

[robust wave]

I love how muzzle flashes look a bit gory

I love usage of this deep red color

[proud tusk]

"Mr. Gibs, oh how I missed you..."
"Help out a pal, Ms. Pow."
"Late husband and an even later death."
"I don't wanna say Uncle, and now I won't have to."
"I still miss you, my love..."
"Yes, Drill Sergeant!"
"You were truly shocking, Mr. Zap."
"Easy now, boy, easy..."

[proud tusk]

Thank you!! I tried it after the pistol one looked a bit similar to the OG, i made it a stronger colour

[novel bramble]

im not joking when i say this, all of this looks so cool so far

are the levels gonna also be original?

[proud tusk]

Completely original

[novel bramble]

cool

[proud tusk]

I plan for each level to be lengthy, but have a flashback tunnel that leads into pitch black before going into a concrete room, displaying some old memories of them

As i have discussed here before lols

[robust spear]

Can someone PLEASE explain why SLADE sometimes FUCKS OVER YOUR MAPS???

I'd be editing some shit in SLADE and then it fucking marks some of the maps as invalid file types

[proud tusk]

Uncle Pow is being worked on right now!!

[proud tusk]

Ive never worked on any doom program so i have no clue, sorry

[robust spear]

then why did u respond

[proud tusk]

Tbh my brain is fried i should sleep
Sorry for that

[proud tusk]

Say uncle

[lament lake]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/ashes-2063

this looks very neat and cool

[proud tusk]

I think i love this with a passion

I wonder what its gonna be called and now im invested lol

[robust wave]

It's based on a Game Diep.io

I just mixed Diep and Doom and got Doop

Sounds silly but it fits

[proud tusk]

Doom.io

Ive also played diep.io and tbh i tried to again today but couldnt cus i dotn have a laptop lol

Very cool!! I love it

[robust wave]

It's redicilously difficult, I reached level 45 only once after playing for a while

And I'm just not a PvP person, I avoid it a lot

But I've always thought that Diep.io would be a cool bullet hell kind of game, and after I got into doom modding I'm making it a reality

[proud tusk]

It is fitting lol

I grinded zomb.io and omly got to night 8 cus by the 3rd one it spams them so hard by then and ur defense is basically half gone by the end
To get it back on topic: ive been having a lotta demotivation to do hands so Uncle Pow will be onehanded

Instead of being a
A normal shotgun
Its this weird, stretchedcout ver of one that requires one big shell block that has roughly 3 tiny shells stuffed inside, all linked to 1 fuse

Ive gotta do the rest of the shading and such now so i wish ya luck man!!

[robust wave]

And same for you

[proud tusk]

He is done! (Ignoring the pickup sprite that is)

Now I just need to do Rata-Tara, Mr. Zap and Big Ben

[proud tusk]

I still miss you, my love...

Oh, and Mr. Gibs' blades had to get a redesign due to the original part of it being lost

[robust spear]

Aww I remember that game :D

[valid basin]

how do u highlight the secrets in brutal wolf3d? theyre off for me fsr

[proud tusk]

Yes, Drill Sergeant!

[robust spear]

I luv cone lighting

[novel bramble]

cone lighting is best lighting

[mossy fern]

Guys is there a way to play this on freedoom? 🙏🙏

[robust wave]

It's said to be made for GZDoom, so it likely won't work

[mossy fern]

Alright, thanks anyway

[mossy fern]

How can i play it there? (On mobile)

[scarlet hawk]

What? Isn't freedoom like a free IWAD or something?
Not a source port/game engine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_modding#Freedoom

[robust wave]

Yeah, so I didn't really get the original question and said that it needs GZDoom

[scarlet hawk]

GZDoom should be able to run any of the freedoom IWADs

[robust wave]

Yeah, cuz it's the most advanced Doom engine as far as I know

Or source port

[scarlet hawk]

Engine. Source port. Both are valid

Ok Vega

-# let's try that again

So Vega didn't let me post a link to the freedoom download page, but from there I found "Freedom Phase 1+2"
The zip file's contents look like this

No .exe, so it's def not a source port

You can try loading freedoom with gzdoom

afaik freedoom was always meant as a free alternative to Doom2.wad

[scenic tusk]

one of the best mods I've ever played if not the best, I enjoyed it as much as I enjoyed falout 3 which is one of my fav games of all time

[scenic tusk]

this looks dope!

[modern adder]

I put together a Doom + Doom 2 mod development tutorial series. It doesn't go super deep, but it covers all the bases. Hope it helps somebody.
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2oqEiezllm79a7Rp2lg_eRyeD4PY1Op7&si=0XtELYsSLgBJbMhv

[lament lake]

it's its own wad file, you can just start it in gzdoom. I don't think you'd need base doom as there doesn't seem to be many assets that carry over

[sinful flame]

I think so yeah. I believe the point of freedoom is to have an IWAD you can use. I don't know how it interacts with other wads though since I never played it

[lament lake]

i do not condone it but both og doom games might be able to be found on the internet archive coughcough

[scenic tusk]

oh wow this is awesome! bookmarking it for sure

[random dragon]

I am stoopid and don't know how to implement more than 1 mod to my DOOM game.

Someone please help me

[novel bramble]

what source port are you usin'

well, source ports doesn't really matter but basically in windows you press ctrl and you can select more than one file! drag the files to gzdoom (for example) and i think it would work out

[modern adder]

That's actually touched on in that video series I posted, in the Slade chapter probably

[haughty flower]

Any chance someone would upload project brutality to GDrive or something so I can download it. It keeps failing cus slow internet on my phone

[novel bramble]

you wanna play project brutality on your phone?

[lament lake]

is there an android port for doom even?

oh, yeahthere is lmao

[haughty flower]

The download keeps failing sucks

[random dragon]

What Youtube channel?

[random dragon]

Oh, it's ctrl.

I used to try using shift because it was always shift + drag in websites and stuff

But that never worked, so... yeah

[modern adder]

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2oqEiezllm79a7Rp2lg_eRyeD4PY1Op7&si=0XtELYsSLgBJbMhv

[random dragon]

Thanks

[modern adder]

No problem

[proud tusk]

As a lil baby WADder making his first ever WAD:
This is amazing im subscribing

[modern adder]

I really hope it helps you out! Whatever you're working towards, you can do it.

[proud tusk]

Ty!! Im still working on js the sprites and stil. Havent actually done any mapping due to not having a laptop or pc💔

[modern adder]

If you can gather a shitty laptop, even a netbook, and a proper keyboard and mouse you'll be set. It's a barrier, but if you can overcome it then you're set!

[proud tusk]

Ive got a musician to help and hopefully do some mapping too while i sort out all the sprites

[modern adder]

Rad!

[tribal spindle]

Ham

[proud tusk]

Hopefully, but all hope is lost for me cus
I got 45 dollars recently that i was gonna invest into a crumby laptop BUT someone, prolly a house guest, took 35 dollars and my dad wont do shit about it

And my brother has a laptop but wont like
Let me use it when he doesnt use it at all

So i kind of sorta have to rely on other people for mapping, which sadly means i cant learn for myself AND might not be able to get it how i truly want it

However its better than nothin!!

[modern adder]

You can do what you can for now, and apply what you learn moving forward as you're in a better position to do so. Sometimes life gets in the way and we put things off, we just have to find our way back.
Maybe talking to your dad and brother could be beneficial. My two youngest sons are 16 and 18, and if one had a reasonable request like this, I'd stress for them to work it out and help each other out.

[proud tusk]

Oh, actually: i need help with my Plasma Rifle resprite. Im unsure on what to make it as of right now, but I know that BFG is gonna be a converted car engine to be a super weapon

If any of yall have ideas, pls lemme know!!!

[mossy fern]

You can make the plasma as a mg249

[proud tusk]

How do you format the sprites so that theyd work ingame?

I was gknna try to do it but have no idea how to do it💔

[mossy fern]

What?

[proud tusk]

How would you format a doom spritesheet so that it works ingame

Ik the ones i have probably wont work cus they were ripped sprites

[robust wave]

Oh god

That's why this enemy's decorate weights 320 kilobytes

[mossy fern]

I cant help you, i never modded

[scenic tusk]

ah the joys of decorate

[robust spear]

Can't make ONE project without some kinda undertale reference

[brittle jolt]

does being able to upload mods in the doom 1 + doom 2 software remove the need for gzdoom

[scarlet hawk]

Poor lil photons always negative 😔
They desperately need some positivity

[robust wave]

I optimized this mf to 81 kilobytes

He is so damn lazily made, has two triples of actors that are the same letter to letter, 50 variations of a particle, 128 lines of TNT1 A 0 Bright A_SpawnItemEx("FireSpark", Random(-5,5), Random(-5,5), Random(0,32), Random(-5,5), Random(-5,5), Random(0,20), Random(0,360), 128) in a row, and not only in a row

I wanna go to die

[novel bramble]

im not getting this, wdym

[modern adder]

You still need a more advanced source port like GZDoom for limit-removing mods.

[brittle jolt]

gotcha

[sinful flame]

Well for mods that need GZDOOM specifically, limit removing could be ports as old as BOOM. I remember one YouTube channel using BOOM to run Sigil (which requires limit removing) in MS-DOS

[novel bramble]

yeah

using gzdoom for only limit removing is a bit of an overkill

[sinful flame]

Actually wouldn't modern console/PC storefront ports that use KEX engine be limit removing anyway

since you would need to be to run SIGIL?

[cloud tangle]

laptops been broken for a while is this anything lmao

[haughty flower]

Looks like a map for examina

Lol

[cloud tangle]

its gonna be a lot of that red rock texture and marb when i get my desktop set up 🛐

a little over a year and a half ago i made something similar to this but this is 1) way more complete and 2) i think will folow way better

[haughty flower]

Bunny btw

[cloud tangle]

wow

[cloud tangle]

ill be back in like 20 minutes im annotating this

[robust spear]

Photons find positivity from going outside in the sun

I feel like we can learn something from this

[cloud tangle]

oh that took an hour lmao

i also forgot to add the other weapons but who gaf

[sinful flame]

I should've drawn the map I am currently working on, on paper. Not sure why I didn't

[cloud tangle]

i just got really bored in english class

[gritty hound]

same but in maths

[narrow laurel]

the "Dark Suffering" DOOM MOD.

[rare mulch]

I'm remixing Project Brutality

[haughty flower]

I want a tactical project brutality where everything's a bit slower including the player.

Everyone that's played ashes, what's your favorite one?

I just started the second one yesterday

Dead man walking was pretty sweet

[rare mulch]

what

btw, this remix of project brutality is about some "boykisser" (or "silly goober") known as Martin. (gave him that name bc Maxwell is already used for a meme cat.) He originally worked for the Air force in Great Britain, but some of thos priests of Satan caught him off guard so Martin decided to beat em with his shotgun. (This is just a random made-up story, as there is no official story yet during development of this remixed mod)

[haughty flower]

I feel like I lost a couple IQ points reading that ngl

[rare mulch]

damn

[rare mulch]

Alright. the minor tweaks have been completed.

[scenic tusk]

all the ashes episodes are fantastic, hard to pick a fav

[karmic delta]

we need somebody to collect the original doom weapon toys like infinity stones and make bibically accurate angled weapons

[cloud tangle]

im all for being creative but why is your profile picture a horror au of the mascot of the people that did baby shark. of all characters

[karmic delta]

baby shark horror? who is making this

[rare mulch]

i didn't make it tho. my ex-friend did.

[cloud tangle]

but like why

[cloud tangle]

like as in what about the character makes it notable enough to both 1) make art for it and 2) make it your profile picture

[haughty flower]

Baby shark do do do do do do

[rare mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-stacy-bitch-4k-that's-crazy-caught-gif-3980141426161854742

stay on topic bros

[storm charm]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/robocop-vs-terminator-deathmatch/downloads/robocop-2-deathmatch

speaking of on-topic

[scenic tusk]

aww yeah, got it bookmarked once you said it works for single player too

[old seal]

latest good map? Shadows E4M7 by MAN_WITH_GUN?

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/148406-shadows-ultimate-doom-cl-3-rc2/?page=2&tab=comments#comment-2962090

[fading bolt]

hey is there anyway to make a custom menu in doom that lets you select player classes

[robust wave]

It's automatically made if there are several classes defined in MAPINFO

[fading bolt]

k

[placid isle]

What're some good Plutonia esque/inspored WADs? I've played Plutonia 2 and PRCP recently, and I'm curious to try more. (PRCP2 is already on my list)

[tacit pilot]

plutonia... 3?

[placid isle]

It's a not very good jokewad

[sinful flame]

It is hard to capture what made Plutonia tick since it had its own tropes most people would avoid abusing in later years. Plutonia 2 already felt more like, uh... well, Plutonia 2 which I was fine with since it shown map author confidence in their own approaches.

[whole blade]

Plutonia 7

[placid isle]

thats probably a better jokewad

[whole blade]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/120900-plutonia-7-32-map-plutonia-megawad-april-fools/

Very Serious Wad

But an actually serious answer, Ribbiks is the most well known evolution of what Plutonia started. Tight set ups, mean traps, combat focused maps

Although Ribbik's later stuff is quite esoteric

Skillsaw is another mapper with a clear evolutionary line to Plutonia

[placid isle]

Counterpoint - I am ass at Doom

[whole blade]

Go2it is one of the first slaughter maps (despite having only 200 ish monsters) so everything from Alien Vendetta to Deus Vult to Sunder is arguable Plutonia inspired

[placid isle]

I would love to romp through Sunlust without gritting my teeth to dust in frustration, but alas

[whole blade]

Difficulty settings are well implemented in Sunlust

UV is definitely spicy

[placid isle]

I should use those more. I'm too prideful to go down to HMP 99 times out of 100

if I ever actually do it, it'll probably be for Ribbiks maps

[whole blade]

Crumpets is Ribbiks' first mapset iirc, that is much more approachable than Sunlust

But I'd jump into some Skillsaw mapsets

Valiant is a classic

Or Scythe1

[placid isle]

I've played all of his big releases. Except Heartbound, because I am a GZDoom addict and until recently, I haven't managed to work out how to, uh, work on it on my Linux machine

[whole blade]

Or Eviternity 1

[placid isle]

not heartbound, heartland

[whole blade]

Speed of Doom is another spicy classic, but that does get much more slaughtery in the later maps

[placid isle]

I'm aware, but Vanguard is my favourite of his, not least of all because it's one of my first ever wads

[placid isle]

Oh yes. It gets real intense, but it's well worth playing

[whole blade]

I love Vangaurd

My favourite Skillsaw mapset as well

[placid isle]

Beating Ruins of Kalnik UV was very satisfying

SoD gets credit for having an actually worthwhile Map 30 too

[whole blade]

Speed of Doom is one of the best wads ever made

[placid isle]

Maybe I should have said this before - I'm pretty well experienced with Doom wads, especially pre 2020ish ones

[placid isle]

Its up there for me too, probably top 10. I have a softer spot for Plutonia 2 though

Plut 2 competes with Going Down for my favourite "vanilla" WAD. The few things I like more are GZDoom stuff and Auger Zenith, which feels way too fancy to call vanilla

[whole blade]

Going Down also slaps

[placid isle]

Cyriak Harris is probably my favourite mapper. Anything he's made, I've ended up loving

I'm going through the Cacowards year by year right now, and I'm almost at 2012 where he wins his first one. I have high hopes for The Eye

I love the sense of chaos and fun present throughout his maps, they stick in my head far better than a lot of other maps I enjoy

[storm charm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/345969596601204738/1416025123353268245/image.png?ex=68c557a9&is=68c40629&hm=16b0f7064936863842f9de7e60e4423377cbda72dd0d902c2e2fd5ec46cbc554&

[scarlet hawk]

myhousewithabunchofshitoutfront.pk3

[placid isle]

easy cacoward winner for 2025

[sinful flame]

myhouse.pk3 but now it is a saturday morning and there is a yard sale going on

[broken trellis]

I just want myhotel to come out already 😂

[robust wave]

Underground Doop train

[fading bolt]

doop

[robust wave]

You can rotate doop by 180 degrees and it would still be doop

[fading bolt]

impressive

[robust wave]

Like a polydrome but different

[royal wave]

https://bsky.app/profile/kevansevans.bsky.social/post/3lyo7uvjdxs2s

kevansevans (@kevansevans.bsky.social)

Got some ideas flowing. It's not much, but this presentation feels really chilling to me. #Doom #Modding

▶ Play video

Bluesky · Sep 12, 2025, 9:37 PM

[half wedge]

I forget how creative the doom community is. I am really impressed by the talent they have.

[fading bolt]

bruh im cooked i got like 5 unfinished maps 💀

[summer wolf]

meanwhile I'm already running through ideas for the 2nd episode even though the 1st episode isn't done yet (it's finally getting close though, will make the Doomworld post soon)

[scarlet hawk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHw25SoJu00

[royal wave]

That's some impressive stuff right there

[fading bolt]

scary

[tawdry citrus]

how to make doom map ?

[royal wave]

https://youtu.be/c4-5d10dCyQ?si=DqjalHPiduIQ4V3v

[tawdry citrus]

thx bro

[scarlet hawk]

Scary how? 🤔

[fading bolt]

idk it just is :d

[scarlet hawk]

Interesting

[rancid marsh]

does anyone know how to get mods working for doom + doom 2? i want to play with smooth doom's weapons but every method i've tried i couldn't get to work and i cannot for the life of me figure out gzdoom or zdl. that and trying to play a mod in doom + doom 2 just default moves me to doom 1 when im wanting to play no rest for the living

[novel bramble]

yeah smooth doom was made for zdoom, while doom + doom 2 is not zdoom based so it cant support it.

[rancid marsh]

damn. guess i wont be modding

[royal wave]

Or you could learn a source port that people use for modding

Doom 1 + 2 is fine, but they're not what the modding community uses

[rancid marsh]

yea, but i thought the ones people used were gzdoom and zdl3? (srry for the ping btw)

[royal wave]

Chocolate, DSDA, Woof

[rancid marsh]

ok. ill see if i can figure any of those out

thx!

[royal wave]

Crispy, PrBoom

You still won't get smoothdoom running on those however. But those are ports most popularly used if what you want to make is (mostly) mapping

[bitter solstice]

you think thats tough, ive been trying not to make a subtle helltaker, doom 64, or ddlc reference in my megawad 😭

buuut yk... my silly thoughts got the better of me

[placid isle]

GZDoom seems to be the most popular source port for it's ease of use, customisability and compatibility with 99% of what you would want to use

[novel bramble]

it was my first source port before i changed into nugget doom

i still use gzdoom but i only use it for modding

[bitter merlin]

yall is it possible to just turn a directory into a wad
a while ago i made a shitpost mod, but in a folder as its easier to work with, and just running it through slade, but it doesnt seem possible to export the directory as a wad

[robust wave]

I think you can try making a new wad in slade and then drag all resources from the directory into the wad

[bitter merlin]

i guess could be possible

[placid isle]

I never saw a reason to change off of it, myself

I know it's not the super authentic Doom experience source port, but I've never cared for that anyway

[novel bramble]

i like a little purity on my source port

although im not an actual purist, i kinda like some bit of vanilla

[placid isle]

fair enough, to each their own

[novel bramble]

although i have doom + doom II, i mostly use it for multiplayer

deathmatchin is fun

[placid isle]

never tried it, never been a multiplayer guy

It'll be quite a distinct experience to SP

[bitter merlin]

relating to this
what doom mapping software is best on linux
back when i made it about a year ago i was still primarily on windows

do i just run udb through wine or something

actually theres a build of it on the aur nvm ill try that

[novel bramble]

oh iirc, gzdoom can be supported on linux

[placid isle]

I've struggled to use others on linux

Linux doesnt really have drag and drop functionality, so I've been running my wads through ZDL, and nothing seems to work with it but a very specific version of GZDoom

[bitter merlin]

yeah gzdoom is available

and so is vkdoom

which is essentially just gzdoom but vulkan

[novel bramble]

yeah

you can pick whichever one you want

[bitter merlin]

so essentially this build of ultimate doom builder is just running through wine
but it somehow sucks more than if i manually ran it through wine because it doesnt save my preferences when i reopen it
saving and running the map take disappointingly long and its crashing quite a bit
autosaves are made but i have no clue where they are stored so i cant restore my map after it crashed
i tried running the proper windows version through wine, and the window randomly doesnt respond to user input
i cant even set up game configuration because it freezes altogether when i select file and i need to sigkill it to close it
im about to have an aneurysm

[royal wave]

GZDoom already supports vulkan. VKDoom's thing is it's a port geared more towards standalone games and performance

[placid isle]

I follow a game called Golden Souls 3, and it's creator touted VKDoom as running his game a lot better than GZDoom does

[royal wave]

VKDoom came around because the lead dev of GZDoom is way too controlling of what features and changes get added to the engine

Which seems surprising considering what it can do, but that is the legitimate reason

Which includes a bunch of QoL features and engine performance boosts

[bitter merlin]

i mean yeah generally its like double the frames at least

its much more optimized than gzdoom

[placid isle]

no no, I believe it

I watched a video by Dwars on his behaviour with the project. Dunno if I can post links in here or not, but you should be able to find it if you look up lilith.pk3