classic-doom-maps-mods

[old seal]

TCs? dunno but I use these to replace everything:

9 DBP52: Havoc in Creation 2022 (stunning hell maps, the best palette)
8 Speed of Doom 2010 (top combat, tough hordes, lotsa mancubi)
8 Valiant: Vaccinated Edition 2015 (can use monster/gun mods via ZDL launcher by playing this version)
8 Scorching Earth 2024 (similar visuals to Hellbound 2013, some backtracking tho)
8 Necromantic Thirst 2024
4 Shallow World 2022 (ez)

3 Irkalla 2022 (great details, top lighting, grey castles in red hell, great colors)
2 Hellbound 2013 (top lighting, iffy gameplay tho)
1 Vanguard 2011 (second half of the mapset looks like Valiant 2015)
1 Hell's Farthest Shore 2021 (D1)
1 Red Sector 2023 (3 cramped maps, great monster reskins - from MEDB I think?)
1 Semper Fidelis 2024 (3 detailed maps, doomcute train)
1 Sunset Irreligion 2024 (detailed shadows of window frames)
0 Suspended in Dusk 2005
0 VOYAGE INFERNAL 2020 (gameplay mod: gore, guns, nades, fem voice, dash)
0 Pagodia 2022
0 Atonement 2022
0 Azazel's Second Descent 2022 (overgrown, caves, maps 01-04)
0 Abandon 2023 (slaughter, maps 01+02, some fps drops later on)
0 OBLITERATOR 2024 (gameplay mod: over the top guns for slaughter maps)

[old seal]

(as I get some fps drops in the map02 looker using GZDoom). are there more maps by the Carton_Kobra other than this mapset’s map04 pls?

[random bluff]

Does anyone know when the console kex engine will enable multiplayer mod support?

[whole blade]

A question for Nightdive

[bitter solstice]

Can anyone pull up the unused maps from doom and doom ii, i wanted to make a remix of the short early e2m8 map, if anyone has the wads for the maps, thank you so much

[worldly folio]

What the hell did I just do 😭 can someone help

[cobalt lagoon]

💀 wut did yu do 💀

[shut crane]

Finally I learned how to make teleporting Demons

[lusty dove]

what

can you give more details

did you give your nodebuilder cocaine

[worldly folio]

I fixed it lmaoo

[lusty dove]

what did you do

[worldly folio]

I don't know still, I think I misordered some of the files in slade

I dont even know how I fixed it but hey I'm not complaining lmaoo

[lusty dove]

huh

maybe it was using the wrong nodes from the wrong map lmao

are there multiple maps?

[old seal]

so no one can mod for Doom 2 here pls? I think it is needed to delete guns 2-7 from Voyage Infernal mod and new chainsaw from Obliterator mod to make the 2 modscompatible. when I run them together now there is wrong pistol and I can not switch weapons

[bitter solstice]

Map 31 is still a wip

632 enimes

[haughty flower]

I use gzdoom and I have this blurry dark effect on textures far away idk what it is hard to describe anyone know how to turn it off?

[royal monolith]

Would anyone be able to teach me abt modding using gzdoom? I'm not terribly concerned with level design or sprites as I can do art and make map adjustments myself.

It's programming I wish to learn.

[lusty dove]

look up a zscript tutorial on google or youtube, there are plenty of resources out there

[royal monolith]

Thanks

[flat python]

https://youtu.be/AVuxDrzlsN8?si=zj2VJhHttSfSyMyE

[hollow inlet]

can i not just draw a line between these vertices???

i dont wanna select the damn wall

[flat python]

https://youtu.be/S7NITwG52S8?si=ZQ5nEupInqpWXRl_

[slate maple]

back to mapping, my goal is to finish a few levels. Must get EP6 done by QuakeCon 2025

i have 6 levels to make but most of the systems are done. Need to add a couple monsters, random invasion and the final boss

Once i am done, ill have entered beta and will need playtesters, ill just pay people probably because fuck

the entire campign is about 12 hours, 36+ levels total

nearly 100 unique monster types - some from other wads, a few made by me through frankenspriting

[broken epoch]

can anyone give me some ideas for a fallout themed doom map? i already made a few vaults, toxic caves (inspired by fo2) and a small settlement.

[haughty flower]

Dark Ages at home

[whole blade]

Ctrl d to switch to draw mode

[slim cipher]

Amazing, is this an actual mod?

[hollow inlet]

oke

[haughty flower]

It's not a mod, I just changed the chaingun sprite. but... will be a future mod.

[onyx scroll]

would work on vanilla, then

unless you use some weird format to replace the textures, though

[haughty flower]

Exactly, I'll make it 100% vanilla

[onyx scroll]

neat

[haughty flower]

I'll probably upload it to the Doom + Doom 2 mod store.

[onyx scroll]

you can DM me the WAD once it's done btw

or send it here

as a good chunk of players do play with community source ports - like you

[haughty flower]

Alright

[onyx scroll]

Though, I am curious why you choose ZDoom over other ports. I rarely see ZDoom users now a days.

[haughty flower]

Sorry if my English is not very good, I am Argentine

[onyx scroll]

Oh your English is fine

[haughty flower]

Ok, I'll post it here first, but I'll mention you.

[onyx scroll]

alright, I'm fine with that

[haughty flower]

Haha, I'm building a "new" PC, and it still has very basic components.

[onyx scroll]

ah

[haughty flower]

I can't even run gzdoom.

[onyx scroll]

though, if you want to try another lightweight port, Woof has worked well in that regard

worth a try imo

[haughty flower]

Yeah, I see your point, but I'm more of a modern mods player.

[onyx scroll]

ah

well, I hope your mod goes well

[haughty flower]

This is another mod I made, but it's not vanilla

[onyx scroll]

looks neat

though a TDA-style HUD may look better in this case

unless this is just an SSG replacement

[haughty flower]

It's a mod about doom eternal, only I wanted to play in modifying the ssg to make it look like the "dark ages" one

[onyx scroll]

oh, yeah

then the Eternal HUD makes sense, then

[haughty flower]

If you are interested in the mod, it is "Eternal Suffering" and is compatible with Zandronum, its launch trailer will be released in a few days.

[old seal]

blurry textures/sprites in opengl or vulkan (GZDoom)? just turn off texture filtering

[amber chasm]

yall can somebody help me

im trying to use ultimate doom builder

but i dont know how to use the testing

[whole blade]

Make sure you've set up your test port

F6

Then you can test via pressing F9 once you've placed a player start

You can also rest from your cursor position buy pressing ctrl f9

[onyx scroll]

... that's a thing?!

[flat python]

https://youtu.be/G8QBLH8JuvA?si=xGVjkT_emE-olzUp

[slim cipher]

Ok thanks

[amber chasm]

It loads doom 2 when I do that T-T

[whole blade]

Have you set the correct format and loaded the correct iwad

[whole blade]

Yessir. Life changing information

[amber chasm]

The what

Dumb it down for me please

[boreal harbor]

This paired with some project brutality and guts ripper is absolute gold
https://www.moddb.com/games/doom-ii/addons/after-doom

[amber chasm]

yall question

what cripy doom should i download for the ultimate doom builder?

and how do i set it up correctly?

[onyx scroll]

Any version of it. Just make sure your map format is set to Vanilla Doom 1 (may be titled as Ultimate Doom) or 2.

As Crispy can’t support anything other that vanilla and limit removing

[amber chasm]

like the doom doom2 format

cuz i have it selected but it still loads the official doom levels

[onyx scroll]

You running the map from UDB?

[amber chasm]

yeah

[onyx scroll]

You probably have that not configured correctly. But try running the map through the command line real quick.

[amber chasm]

how do you do thaat

wait is it okay if i call you and show it to you? that is easier for me to understand

[onyx scroll]

No. I don’t do calls.

[amber chasm]

oh ok

[onyx scroll]

Especially at this time of day

[amber chasm]

fair

[onyx scroll]

Anyways, you can shove the map WAD into Crispy Doom’s folder and run this, assuming it’s Doom 2
crispy-doom -iwad DOOM2.WAD -file [map filename].wad

[amber chasm]

alr alr

where do i enter that text?

[onyx scroll]

I can’t exactly remember how to configure UDB’s built in stuff because I don’t usually map.

[onyx scroll]

The command line in the same directory as Crispy’s folder

Easiest way to open up CMD in a specific folder on Windows is to type in cmd into the folder path box on the top of File Explorer

[amber chasm]

can you dumb that down for me?

[onyx scroll]

Basically, you see that box on the top of your file manager that has like My PC > Whatever Folder?

[amber chasm]

yeah

[onyx scroll]

Go to your Crispy Doom folder and hit that box

Delete all the text that is in that box and you can type in cmd and hit Enter or Return on your keyboard

You can then copy/paste the command I sent earlier into the black window that pops up

Hit Enter/Return and it should open Crispy Doom

[amber chasm]

it says doom2.wad not found

[onyx scroll]

You have your Doom 2 IWAD in your crispy folder?

[amber chasm]

nope

[onyx scroll]

I heavily suggest you do that later, but just delete the -iwad DOOM2.WAD thing, then.

[amber chasm]

i just put it in the folder :3

[onyx scroll]

Alrighty, then

[amber chasm]

try again now?

[onyx scroll]

Yeah

If it just pulls up with the Doom 2 menu screen, that is normal, assuming you didn’t add in your own

You can just start a new game and it should take you to your level

[amber chasm]

it doesnt

:c

[onyx scroll]

Do you have your level set to map01?

[amber chasm]

huh

[onyx scroll]

Like when you were creating the map, you got a window asking you what map it’s meant to be on

[amber chasm]

ooohh

shit can i still change that?

[onyx scroll]

I think?

[amber chasm]

how XD

[onyx scroll]

At worst you might just need to edit something in Slade

[onyx scroll]

Tbh I have completely forgotten

I usually figure stuff out like this on the fly and not from memory lol

Like I guess you can make a new WAD and copy the map over

[amber chasm]

what is that

[onyx scroll]

But it’d be kinda annoying

[onyx scroll]

A WAD editor that’s used to edit things about the WAD like sprites, sounds, music, etc.

[amber chasm]

ooh

[onyx scroll]

It is however not really used for mapping, despite the fact it does have a map editor

It’s mainly used for those other features I mentioned

[amber chasm]

if i make a new map which one is it

[onyx scroll]

Everything there is good. Don’t change anything

[amber chasm]

alr

[onyx scroll]

It’s not the best solution, but it does work

[amber chasm]

OMG ITS WORKING

[onyx scroll]

I just don’t have the hardware to actually test stuff myself

[amber chasm]

TYSM

[onyx scroll]

Neato

[amber chasm]

IT WAS THE LEVEL NAME

[onyx scroll]

Also, I want to try out your map when it’s done

[amber chasm]

alr is it okay if i dm you so i can sent it there?

[onyx scroll]

Yeah, due to features seen in ZDoom ports relating to map names, UDB asks for the marker name of the map instead of just a level number

So you need to have it as MAP01 or whatever

[onyx scroll]

Yeah, my DMs are open

[amber chasm]

oh lol

[onyx scroll]

Or in the case of UDoom, E1M1 or whatever

[onyx scroll]

Also I guess some other ports as well

But you get the gist

[whole blade]

Have you picked doom 1 or doom 2 for your map resource
What format have you picked (check bottom right hand corner)
What port have you set up for testing

These elements all need to be aligned for your map to test properly

Looks like you've sorted it out c:

[shadow raven]

hey guys, In my wait for the dark ages do you guys have any fun doom 1+2 or doom 64 mods that could get me hooked?

[onyx scroll]

Not exactly sure what you want so I’ll just say Overboard and the Pirate Doom WADs

[shadow raven]

thanks man they seem pretty fun

[haughty flower]

Just done working on the level designs for an upcoming survival horror mod, BIODUST

[runic warren]

Does anyone here know how to disable all the new weapons from Brutal Doom, including the assault rifle?

[short harbor]

I have made a modified version of E1M1 Hangar based on various remakes problem is I can't get the wall to crumble down when you enter the room with the boxes
this room that line is supposed to trigger the wall to crumble down

[candid crow]

Hello

[turbid leaf]

We gettin furry megawad b4 The Dark Ages

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/151058-open-yiff-a-megawad-made-for-furries-by-furries/

[slate maple]

ok

[silver ridge]

in GZDoom my character is looking up automatically and spinning. I can't figure out how to fix it

[haughty flower]

what does this mean? I try playing doom1 with my mods and I have the doom1 wad file in the gzdoom folder

[gentle cedar]

I wonder how do you make a sky box in ultimate doom builder?

[onyx scroll]

Buy the game from Steam or GOG. DOOM1.WAD is the shareware version of the game. DOOM.WAD and DOOM2.WAD are the full versions of UDoom and Doom 2.

[haughty flower]

I have the bought doom1 wad and in the folder

[onyx scroll]

rename it to DOOM.WAD, then

[haughty flower]

oh yea thx works

[gentle cedar]

Does doom two have any sky boxes?

[whole blade]

Depends what you mean by skybox

[royal wave]

if you mean "How do I make a sky in Doom Builder", you use the texture F_SKY1 on ceilings

[gentle cedar]

I’m using doom tune, and I can’t find f sky

Doom 2

Hello?

Hello?

[onyx scroll]

f sky is only for ceilings

[gentle cedar]

I checked

[onyx scroll]

you need to do some weird trickery to make it appear on walls

[onyx scroll]

weird

maybe check all texture sets?

[gentle cedar]

I only have doom 2 loaded I think

What is the folder supposed to look like?

[onyx scroll]

using Doom 2 Format

wait, I can't even find F_SKY

gimms a second, might be misremembering

Oh, you gotta select "All"

[gentle cedar]

I did find F_Rsky2 but when I apply it and went to test mode, it didn’t turn into a sky

[onyx scroll]

I don't even have a flat like that

[onyx scroll]

... you literally have F_SKY1 in that screenshot

[gentle cedar]

I applied it, but it didn’t work

[onyx scroll]

tf

I'm just assuming your using GZ and UDMF as your format at this point

and in turn I can't really help you

[gentle cedar]

I think I’m using boom: doom 2

I wonder what is the best game configuration

[onyx scroll]

Yeah, I got no clue why it isn't working

mind sending over the WAD?

where ever you find most comfortable sending it, by the way

[gentle cedar]

How do I send a wad?

[onyx scroll]

That's the DBS file. The WAD is in the same directory as that.

[gentle cedar]

I don't

[onyx scroll]

right here, right?

or somewhere else in the map?

[gentle cedar]

Yep

I changed up a bit since I don’t really know if skybox will work

[onyx scroll]

it's something wonky with your port then

try in Woof or DSDA-Doom, I guess

though, just pointing out you're missing a texture here

[gentle cedar]

I changed it to Dsda doom: doom 2 (udmf

[onyx scroll]

Yeah, not what I was saying by the way, I meant the port you're playing on

I did fix the skybox thing on my end

try this

still on Boom Doom 2

also fixed that texture issue I noticed for ya

to explain what I did, at least

I added an extra sector behind the windows, made the ceiling texture for that sector F_SKY1, and then lowered the ceiling all the way to the floor

[gentle cedar]

Would that be all right if you made like a video or something?

[onyx scroll]

also noticed I made one of the walls too short lol

[onyx scroll]

with what I did to make the windows?

[gentle cedar]

Yea

[onyx scroll]

Alright, I'll try to get it made

I'll use your map as a basis as I really don't want to set up a testing map for this lol

[gentle cedar]

Yeah, you can do that

Never mind, I think I figured it out

[onyx scroll]

I'll still send the video anyways (assuming I can even compress it enough)

Nevermind, I can't. I gotta send it over YouTube... sigh

[gentle cedar]

I got a say thank you

[onyx scroll]

alrighty, video should be fully uploaded in about 3-5 minutes

DMing it is fine?

[gentle cedar]

Dming?

[onyx scroll]

direct message

[gentle cedar]

Ok

[rough sequoia]

Quick question. For doom 1, does an episode have to have only 9 maps, or can it have more?

[onyx scroll]

can only have 9 maps when making vanilla maps

possibly more when working with GZDoom or some other thing

[rough sequoia]

Okay

[onyx scroll]

Deciding to finally give mapping a go again and make some sort of UDoom map where you're on a small transport ship trying to get the keycard to actually get in an escape pod after the demons invaded the ship

texturing and making a level actually fun were never my strong suits, so I hope I can maybe improve on those

might send the map here if I ever get it to a playable state for some feedback

[runic quarry]

i made a doom mod (its only 1 level) and tried to make it the most confusing mod I could good luck

[onyx scroll]

What IWAD and complevel?

[runic quarry]

its for doom2

[onyx scroll]

so vanilla, boom, mbf, whatever?

[runic quarry]

gz doom

[onyx scroll]

damn

sigh gotta convince myself into setting up GZ

[runic quarry]

damn

[onyx scroll]

I don't really keep it up to date with my current tastes because I quite despise the port

so basically every time I want to try something made for GZ it's just a hassle

might try it in a few days once I convince myself to spend that time

[runic quarry]

when i wanted to play doom mods for the first time i just watched the first video that popped up and it was for gz doom so thats just what i use

i understand though lol

[onyx scroll]

fair enough

actually what I initially did

but I instantly went back to DOSBOX until I wanted to play Sigil 1

[runic quarry]

Sigil is goated

[onyx scroll]

I bought physical copies for a reason lol

[runic quarry]

where can you get a physical copy of Sigil from?

[onyx scroll]

Romero's website

[runic quarry]

found it

[onyx scroll]

btw, the diskette there isn't real, it's just a nifty USB

there was an actual diskette version but it sold out years ago

[runic quarry]

i would expect it too

[old seal]

yeah, keyconf.txt file in Voyage Infernal mod would have to be rewritten I guess. I can either a) not be able to switch the desired Obliterator guns freely or b) have all weapons from both mods available but then nades and dash crounch move from Voyage Infernal mod do not work (by altering the file). I got sounds sorted already at least

[gentle cedar]

Is there a way to make happen on the same time?

strobe

Hello?

[thorn venture]

whats good gng

[old seal]

u want good maps/mods?

[meager scarab]

Does anyone know where I can find project brutality 3.0? I can't find the OG mod anymore it just vanished

[fathom remnant]

https://github.com/pa1nki113r/Project_Brutality

[main bolt]

hello everyone
is there a way to open myhouse map in doom builder? i try to open myhouse.wad using zdoom configuration (doom builder doesnt seem to have gzdoom config) but nothing happens, just black screen

[onyx scroll]

It should be in UDMF format instead iirc

Although I’m not entirely sure

[blissful tree]

Hey all
I've created a doom 2 level
Could you please so kind try it and give me some feedback
The level name is Escape
Our poor Doomguy was caught by hell monsters and imprisoned in the jail.
The level is short but hope you'll enjoy it.
Thank you in advance

[onyx scroll]

I’m not particularly knowledged with GZDoom

Also, I suggest using Ultimate Doom Builder over Doom Builder

[main bolt]

oh, thats better.
but no textures etc, only lines

[onyx scroll]

Did you forget to load in your resources?

So your IWAD, sometimes gzdoom.pk3 apparently, and the slight possibility of myhouse itself

[main bolt]

it crashed on out of memory error

or is it wrong resource acrhive?

[onyx scroll]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Like I said, I barely have any knowledge with anything ZDoom

This would probably be better for someone like Bridgeburner

Although I’m not entirely sure if he accepts pings

The Out Of Memory error may due to you lacking available RAM

[main bolt]

64gbs, doubt it

[onyx scroll]

Okay yeah, nvm

Yeah, I’m just throwing random bullshit at the fan rn tbh

[main bolt]

well, map opened and thats already better than nothing, i can work with that.

not that i need to alter it somehow)

i'll try ultimate builder also

[main bolt]

thats better, but still some errors

[naive shadow]

I am not on PC to check but I think you don't have the doom2 wad loaded

[pale cloak]

A vanilla pwad heavily inspired by pizza tower is in the works...

[rough sequoia]

Quick question

Whats a good and easy way to make music midi's for doom?

Well, maybe not "easy" but reliable lol

[old seal]

look at how maps like these are created:

9 DBP52: Havoc in Creation 2022 (stunning hell maps, the best palette)

8 Speed of Doom 2010 (top combat, tough hordes, lotsa mancubi)

8 Valiant: Vaccinated Edition 2015 (can use monster/gun mods via ZDL launcher by playing this version)

8 Scorching Earth 2024 (similar visuals to Hellbound 2013 w/ better gameplay, some backtracking tho)

8 Necromantic Thirst 2024 (great megawad+monster reskins, fps drops in maps15+16+22+25-30 tho)

4 Shallow World 2022 (ez)

3 Irkalla 2022 (great details, top lighting, grey castles in red hell, great colors)

2 Hellbound 2013 (top lighting, iffy gameplay tho)

1 Vanguard 2011 (second half of the mapset looks like Valiant 2015)

1 Hell's Farthest Shore 2021 (D1)

1 Red Sector 2023 (3 cramped maps, great monster reskins - from MEDB I think?)

1 Semper Fidelis 2024 (3 detailed maps, doomcute train)

1 Sunset Irreligion 2024 (detailed shadows of window frames, new palette)

0 Skulltiverse 2021 (small detailed maps 01+31)

0 Micro-Slaughter Community Project 2021 (map 06 especially)

0 Azazel's Second Descent 2022 (overgrown/jungle caves, maps 01-05)

0 Abandon 2023 (slaughter, maps 01+02, some fps drops later on)

0 Boomer: Beyond Vanilla 2023 (detailed exploration, great palette, fps drops in maps04+06 tho)

0 Who Is Who 2025 (small detailed maps 01+03)

[whole blade]

Sekaiju is the go to program

[rough sequoia]

Thanks!

[haughty flower]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxW2afwcM-Q

a project that me and my friends were working on

[royal wave]

https://bsky.app/profile/kevansevans.bsky.social/post/3lhp4spyxls2g

kevansevans (@kevansevans.bsky.social)

#Doom #Modding

Bluesky · Feb 8, 2025, 10:06 PM

[upbeat path]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/151196-gzdoom-bluesky-map-jam-44-maps-made-by-the-bluesky-adjacent-doom-community-rc1/

[prime lake]

It really seems like quite a lot of modern maps require GZDoom, now that I'm looking. I can assume that plutonia 1 & 2, No Rest for the Living both work with nyan doom... but is there any other sort-of "guide" or list of wads that would work without requiring GZ?

I see I have the option for "limit removing".

[onyx scroll]

anything Vanilla, Limit Removing, Boom, MBF, and MBF21

[prime lake]

I guess I'll have to look for explanations for these terms. I assumed that Going Down was off-limits, but as I watched another youtuber play it (Decino, I think) he was talking about the "doom cute", how the levels were made with vanilla assets, so I guess I can just try it, and see.

[onyx scroll]

oh Going Down is Boom

same with Overboard

but yeah, when you're reading a WAD's textfile, just check for these:

• Vanilla: Doom 1, Ultimate Doom, Doom 2, -complevel 3, -complevel 2
• Limit Removing: Same as Vanilla, but usually indicated with "Limit Removing Engine"
• Boom: Boom-compatible, Boom, -complevel 9
• MBF: MBF-compatible, MBF, -complevel 11
• MBF21: MBF21-compatible, MBF21, -complevel 21

a ton of what you find on Doom-world and idGames are within these categories

I don't find (G)ZDoom stuff as often on there

[prime lake]

Alright, I'll just have to look at the .txt's included with the wad. Usually they have some indication within there 👍

I did pull a lot of my content from the cacowards, so it's going to be a mixed bag methinks.

[whole blade]

Most of the classics run on prboom or lower. Sunlust, Sunder, Speed of Doom, Scythe 1 and 2, Going Down, Alien Vendetta, Back to Saturn X, Stardate 20x6/7, Entropy etc

[whole blade]

The last 5 years or so has been a pretty even split of vanilla, boom ish and gzdoom

Oh how could I forget Eviternity 1 and 2

Also the write ups in the Cacowards stipulate the port

[prime lake]

oh they do, don't they. Let me see...

[prime lake]

Yeah I can confirm eviternity works in Nyan Doom for sure.

[jovial ledge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFphxICxoy4

awesome step-by-step guide for vanilla 3d bridges, only video i could find

absolutely could not have figured this out just from guides on forums

[lusty dove]

if you look up a wad on doomwiki, in the upper right corner, there is a thing that says "Port" where it will say what ports its compatible with

if it says vanilla, limit removing, boom, mbf, or mbf21, it will work with dsda/nyan

if there isnt a doomwiki page, it will often also say in the txt for the wad

[mortal ember]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/151137-quacks-quaint-collection-my-first-mapset/?tab=comments#comment-2895768 my first mapset published on doomworld! (GZDoom required, other ports seem to crash apparently)

[old seal]

map02 wrong pegging at the door track + HoM

[mortal ember]

@old seal if you mean by the lowering doors, those just stayed like that despite me changing the pegging on them around. I also play tested it again this morning and didn't see any missing from the textures. What sourceport are you using? - that might explain some of the weird texturing problems.

[old seal]

GZDoom. I think the track texture on the sides should stay still in place and not move w/ door.

the best mapper? MAN_WITH_GUN, shawny or Astro?!?!?!

[mortal ember]

honestly i kept that in cuz i thought it looked nice with all the moving textures in the map already lol - but yea ill keep that in mind for future stuff

[mortal ember]

i'd like to throw in a few others that are my personal favorites - Antares031, Paul977, WH-Wilou84, and Dragonfly to name a few

Also Tristan Clark but he's mainly music over maps

[old seal]

will check them out, thanks!

[prime lake]

Really like doom zero

Not too hard on UV so far, I think I'm on map 13 or so

[old seal]

looks a bit oldschool, does it not?

[prime lake]

It seems really well designed. The textures and the puzzles are top notch. And yes, of course it's old school, the game's about 31 years old

[old seal]

oh yeah, Necromantic Thirst and MSCP creators. I dig them too

[unborn vessel]

Is there a way to remove specific groups of animations with Slade

[pale cloak]

Anybody know where I can find the background and logo assets for the doom title screen? I wanna make a pwad with the original assets but modified to fit with my pwad.

[old seal]

SLADE, TITLEPIC, TXTSCREN

[old seal]

which ones? I have replaced all mancubi w/ MEDB harkubi in SLADE manually for example

[vagrant pebble]

Doosk 5th anniversary update available now!
Optional "Dusk HD 360p/720p" sprites, MBF21 demake, bugfixes and more!

(Also available: standalone "Dusk monsters", "Classic Dusk 360p/720p" sprites)
https://youtu.be/6gbmv9_Ce_M?si=0o09aTM9cgnHCv9C

[old seal]

mancubus2harkubus reskin https: SL3SH SL4SH www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/qblou2xz0svxklc4ode90/gs-g-monsters1c-harkubus-mancubus-reskin-winged-baron.wad?rlkey=cthy844cp42agbidthv01lwl1&st=ejebdped&dl=0

v2 https: SL3SH SL4SH www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/rwvgznyenz493b0e23fd5/gs-h-monsters1d-harkubus-baron-black-red-unwinged.wad?rlkey=vssy7738z8ayyv86if6t9ut1k&st=qd1njbda&dl=0 if it is ok to leave it here (favourite way of disposal: VOYAGE INFERNAL gore/gun mod, 6 automatic shotgun rounds + machreaper blaster finish)

[pale cloak]

bruh, I'm not asking for a image of the title screen, I'm asking for the background of the title screen, also there is no TXTSCREN in DOOM.wad

[shut crane]

Any tips about how to make a good level layout??

[prime lake]

Look at the first map of No Rest for the Living and study the way it shows you things you can't reach

[shut crane]

Thanks for the tip

[old seal]

open the best maps and look at how they are made

9 DBP52: Havoc in Creation 2022 (stunning hell maps, the best palette)

8 Speed of Doom 2010 (top combat, tough hordes, lotsa mancubi)

8 Valiant: Vaccinated Edition 2015 (can use monster/gun mods via ZDL launcher by playing this version)

8 Scorching Earth 2024 (similar visuals to Hellbound 2013 w/ better gameplay, some backtracking tho)

8 Necromantic Thirst 2024 (great megawad+monster reskins, fps drops in maps15+16+22+25-30 tho)

4 Shallow World 2022 (ez)

3 Irkalla 2022 (great details, top lighting, grey castles in red hell, great colors)

2 Hellbound 2013 (top lighting, iffy gameplay tho)

1 Vanguard 2011 (second half of the mapset looks like Valiant 2015)

1 Hell's Farthest Shore 2021 (D1)

1 Red Sector 2023 (3 cramped maps, great monster reskins - from MEDB I think?)

1 Semper Fidelis 2024 (3 detailed maps, doomcute train)

1 Sunset Irreligion 2024 (detailed shadows of window frames, new palette)

0 Sigil 2019 (D1)

0 Don't Turn Your Back On The City 2021 (detailed single wooden map)

0 Skulltiverse 2021 (detailed maps 01+31+32)

0 Micro-Slaughter Community Project 2021 (map 06 especially)

0 Azazel's Second Descent 2022 (overgrown/jungle caves, maps 01-05)

0 Sigil II 2023 (D1)

0 Abandon 2023 (slaughter, maps 01+02, some fps drops later on)

0 Boomer: Beyond Vanilla 2023 (detailed exploration, great palette, fps drops in maps04+06 tho)

0 Who Is Who 2025 (small detailed maps 01+03)

0 + other small detailed maps by https://doomwiki.org/wiki/MAN_WITH_GUN minus the PU55 ones

[whole blade]

bad advice

[whole blade]

make maps. make more maps. have people play them and get feedback. experiment and try new things

[onyx scroll]

yeah, people can and will take the worst ideas from looking at maps

it's a good idea to look at a map to see how something worked, but basically it's better to do what Bridge just said

[whole blade]

there are a few general rules that can help though:

• height variance is good. makes things look interesting and adds to gameplay. flat maps are boring maps
• pillars baby. provide cover for the player during combat and things to cast shadows.
• everything should have a purpose. sometimes that purpose is "because it's cool", but if you can't justify having something in the map then it shouldn't be there (or you should give it a reason to exist)

[lusty dove]

i like looking at other maps for inspiration in terms of decoration and visuals

is that bad?

[whole blade]

retro engineering from existing maps is a good way to figure out specific things. but opening up a ribbiks map to 'learn how to make layouts' will only leave you confused

[whole blade]

i do that all the time

although these days i draw more inspiration from other games and real life structures

anything that gives you ideas = good

[lusty dove]

ah so what is bad advice about telling people to look at other maps

[whole blade]

opening them up to 'learn how to make good layouts'

you'll likely learn nothing

[lusty dove]

ah yeah true

[whole blade]

and be baffled how good mappers do things

this looks cool, but a new mapper won't learn anything from this

[lusty dove]

yeah lmao

[whole blade]

that sure is a collection of lines and such

mhmm

[lusty dove]

i dont have much trouble coming up with layouts, but the part that i really struggle with is detailing

i have trouble figuring out what to put in terms of detailing on walls and floors/ceiling

[whole blade]

recesses, corbels, pillars, beams

essentially you want projections to break up visual lines

[onyx scroll]

"More lines means better map!" - Me, for all of an hour when I first tried learning map making.

[whole blade]

lol

i should do a detailing tutorial

there are few simple tricks that will instantly make a scene look better

lighting is a big part of it

[lusty dove]

ah yeah i never know what to do in terms of lighting

[onyx scroll]

I really need to get back into map making

[lusty dove]

it is fun

[onyx scroll]

I stopped because I got heavily discouraged due to my lackluster quality of pretty much every single fully finished map I made

[lusty dove]

this is a room in the map im making, and i dont really know what to put for lighting

currently its this which looks kinda weird

i should probably split up the sectors to make less awkward lighting, but i dont really know where to put the lines

[onyx scroll]

also I didn't find any of the maps even fun to play

some people liked them, but they're a minority

[lusty dove]

you just have to keep making it

[onyx scroll]

second shot at it might work out idk

[lusty dove]

you will never get better if you dont try

[onyx scroll]

true

I did have a somewhat good looking map at one point, but it was nowhere near fun

my major issue is that I just don't work well with shapes, honestly

I was working on a small map taking place on a ship, but I honestly had no clue where to take it

though, I did really like how I made the little starting area

maybe my best work in terms of looks?

[prime lake]

You can turn on linedefs, which shows the area that a player must step into, to trigger an action or mechanism.

Looking at a top down map will tell you nothing, you really have to play it with a modded automap imo

[gleaming slate]

how do i get v21 of brutal doom 😭

[old seal]

where can I download this wad pls?

[warm zenith]

Download it

[raw carbon]

Moddb, or DOOMWorld forums. I'm not quite sure which.

[whole blade]

Whomp

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/116003-bastion-of-chaos-low-spec-version-is-up/

[livid crescent]

I'm running into an issue.
In DOOM + DOOM II, my MBF21 mod doesn't play the firing sounds for the custom enemies I added in.
I know it's got nothing to do with the sounds themselves because I've swapped the firing sounds with other custom sounds and they still didn't play.
I've been told that D + D II has some mod compatibility issues and this may be a product of that. Is it?
I've attached an image of an enemy 's code with a broken firing sound

Everything else related to this enemy functions as normal

Are the sounds in the wrong location in Slade?

[lusty dove]

yeah theres lots of compatibility issues with doom + doom 2, especially with mbf21 features

i would recommend testing in another port

[old seal]

how about the new Entangled map? large detailed fun

[crystal perch]

I saw that, looks great

[bitter solstice]

I really want to recreate the unused shawn2 map so badly lol

[pearl laurel]

I am learning ultimate doom builder and it has been smooth sailing up until now. all the doors in my map work other than the one pictured and I have no idea why. is anyone able to help with this? format is gzdoom doom 2 udmf

[royal wave]

AAAAAHHHHH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX9LxmA-TXQ

[onyx scroll]

I think I know why it’s happening but I can’t really explain it

If you can DM the WAD I can look at it in like 2 hours or so

[pearl laurel]

yeah

[haughty flower]

Hey guys wanted to ask how can I play brutal doom on android

[whole blade]

your set up is pretty scuffed. why do you have impassible lines either side and just an open wall? but in any case, doors' open to 4 map units lower than the lowest surrounding ceiling

[onyx scroll]

I got a solution on my end

the sectors on the side of the door fuck everything up

[whole blade]

You can have a door work on an isolated pillar as long as the rule regarding ceiling height adheres

But yeah, scuffed set up as I said

Scuffed is a technical definition

[onyx scroll]

to be honest it doesn't help most of the textures just aren't there

@pearl laurel just a tip, always keep placeholder textures mainly to help with testing

never use textureless walls unless they have an actual technical purpose (like for sky walls)

[pearl laurel]

i just didnt want to texture before i got the map functional but i did not realize that functional meant i probably should put in textues lol

but yeah its fixed

[covert arrow]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/brutal-doom/downloads/brutal-doom-v21-beta I just use ModDB for wads like these and stuff

they also released v22 but im pretty sure it's just a beta

[gleaming slate]

Thank you!

[old seal]

do u know https://doomwiki.org/wiki/Disjunction (2017)?
nice detailed mapset, various themes (rust tech, marble caves, library, temple...), not the best map01 imho tho

[haughty flower]

How can I play brutal doom on android?

[lusty dove]

it is not free but there is an app called delta touch which lets you run a few different source ports on mobile, one of which is gzdoom

[haughty flower]

Well can you tell me the steps after getting delta touch

[lusty dove]

idk, never used it

actually i used it once, but I didnt use the gzdoom part of it, and i dont remember how it works anyways

[haughty flower]

Well thanks anyways I guess I learned the first step by getting delta touch

[haughty flower]

Nevermind i learned how.

[strong shell]

Tried making Doom 2016's BFG in classic Doom, though I might have to tweak it a bit

[crimson crescent]

Does anyone know how to create a mechanic something like the brutal doom kick? I mean, press a button to do something similar, only instead of a kick it's a skill or a shield

[runic quarry]

I made the first level of the game ULTRAKILL in doom 🙂

[runic quarry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9Z8YWK9TnI

[crystal perch]

new map

[subtle sun]

(was meant to send in #general)

[old seal]

I like maps04-10 the most. are there some other hidden modern gems that U know of?

[coral cloud]

wip

[surreal parcel]

Ooooh that looks great!! Keep it up!!

[coral cloud]

thanks :)

[shut crane]

I'm loving so much Eviternity and just found out that the creator of the wad has a youtube channel where he does tutorials

[shut crane]

There is a GZDoom mobile port on GitHub, it's Zdoom really, but some mods do work on it

And Brutal DooM even updated still works

[crystal schooner]

Hey! Just curious, what’s everybody playing right now? I’m not a creator, I just really like playing classic doom and wanna know what the community is talking about.

[onyx scroll]

I've been playing Super Doom TV

also occasionally Going Down Turbo

been kinda stalling on both, honestly

[crystal schooner]

Are there any ones you've played recently that you think are really really good?

[onyx scroll]

can't say anything truly recently tbh

mainly been playing older Doom 1 WADs

though I did quite enjoy auxbase

[lusty dove]

Eviternity 2 came out last year and it's incredible

Definitely in my top 3 wads

[crystal schooner]

oh shit this looks crazy

[lusty dove]

Play eviternity 1 first if you haven't already tho

[crystal schooner]

this looks more normal

[lusty dove]

They are both incredible, evi1 is probably my favorite wad of all time

[crystal schooner]

hmm

I don't think ive ever actually finished a megawad

[lusty dove]

Evi2 definitely turned up the detail a little bit, but the first one still has some jaw dropping views

[crystal schooner]

I'll give Evi1 a try later

[lusty dove]

and the second one picks up directly where the first ended, so its beneficial to play them in order

[crystal schooner]

I've been alot more active in seeking out Doom wads once I got my steam deck

[crystal schooner]

You got it

[lusty dove]

nice. Im bad at playing doom with controller
or games in general

[onyx scroll]

same

'cept Outer Wilds, but to be fair that game pretty much requires a controller

[lusty dove]

depending on what you have played before you may want to choose hurt me plenty or hey not to rough

[crystal schooner]

I used to say the same thing, but after getting my SD I feel like I have been playing so many games with controller I never would have thought about beforehand, specifially Doom, KCD, and Minecraft Java

[lusty dove]

because they get pretty insane as you get through them

[onyx scroll]

if you haven't, play Overboard as well

Overboard is probably my top WAD of all time

[lusty dove]

not as crazy as full on challenge wads like sunlust, but still

the balancing on the lower difficulties is very good, so you dont have to worry about missing out on stuff

[crystal schooner]

I got over the Ultra-Violence or bust hump a while ago. I just wanna see the pretty/creative levels.

[lusty dove]

yeah

[crystal schooner]

I'll just do HMP

[lusty dove]

actually ig maybe doom wouldnt be too bad on controller because you only have to look horizontally and not just vertically

and the aiming is very forgiving, since it is not the focus of the game

[crystal schooner]

exactly

[lusty dove]

oh yeah its worth noting if you usually play with gameplay mods like project brutality and the like, dont use them on eviternity 1 and 2 because it will break the custom monsters added

also it just generally breaks the balance of the levels

[onyx scroll]

they usually break the balance of any level

[lusty dove]

yeah

[crystal schooner]

Is project brutality just Brutal Doom but in custom wads?

[onyx scroll]

both can be played in custom WADs

[crystal schooner]

oh, I actually didn't know that

[onyx scroll]

but PB is just it's own thing

honestly, I hate them both

[lusty dove]

project brutality is just a fork of brutal doom with more stuff

[onyx scroll]

to me they just do nothing except add useless clutter

[onyx scroll]

it used to be a fork, but they now use none of the original code

[lusty dove]

I personally dont like playing with them but I get why other people do

[onyx scroll]

I personally don't

[lusty dove]

but for maps like this that very werent designed for them its not a good idea

[onyx scroll]

I get most other gameplay mods, but I genuinely don't get it for PB and BD

[crystal schooner]

dude fuckin... this is off topic but I'm also a big HL1 fan and people have been ranting and raving about Brutal Half-Life version 3 and I tried it and was like... this isn't Half-Life...

[lusty dove]

yeah no thats exactly on topic, this is how I feel about brutal doom
and gameplay mods in general

[onyx scroll]

to me they just make the game completely unfun, cluttered, and why the actual fuck did they need to add the same weapon 30 times?

[lusty dove]

but to each their own, if people like it, then they can play it

[onyx scroll]

I will never hate on someone who plays it (assuming they aren't saying it's the "only correct way of playing")

but I will endlessly trash on the mods themselves

[crystal schooner]

I've also tried a bit of Butal Doom and that feels more correct tbf, but like... HL was designed to be a game with more focus being creative with how you go about a gunfight and not just barging in headfirst and taking down all the bad guys with gamer energy.

[onyx scroll]

seriously, I know I sound like a jerk saying this, but I hate people who say it's the only correct way

there are people who say that and it makes me go mad every time

[crystal schooner]

Don't get me wrong, I love gamer energy, but when I want to use it I bust out doom

[lusty dove]

i will say, when you start getting into custom maps for doom, it becomes MUCH more strategic

[crystal schooner]

Yeah saying that sounds gross

[lusty dove]

there was an excellent video essay recently talking about how actually complex doom combat can be despite the very simple mechanics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxbVfa8HJg8

[onyx scroll]

I hate to say this as well but it's usually the people that came in the series through Nu-Doom and also say Doom 3 is trash

at least from my personal experience

[onyx scroll]

gonna watch this later as background noise when I'm going to bed

[crystal schooner]

Maybe that's why I keep getting my ass kicked

[crystal schooner]

Will definitely watch this later

[onyx scroll]

yeah, the Classic Doom games are much more on the defensive imo

you don't go in guns blazing until you've set yourself into a position where it's possible

[lusty dove]

well depends on the map

[onyx scroll]

well, ofc

some maps are much more on the offensive than anything

but generally I've seen maps make you start mainly on the defensive

[lusty dove]

the main throughline in custom doom combat i find is that its much less about how good you are at aiming and shooting and precisely moving, and much more about your strategy of what weapon you are using, what enemies you are attacking in which order, where specifically are you moving to

[onyx scroll]

but in general, I've really seen the game as a game of picking and choosing

[lusty dove]

yeah exactly

[onyx scroll]

like sure, a good amount of maps make you on the defensive, but if you just blindly assume that, you will die

or sometimes a cyberdemon may just be the absolute lowest priority in an arena

either because you can use it as a tool, or there's just more threatening enemies for that arena

[lusty dove]

cyberdemons are usually lowest priority

[onyx scroll]

yeah, true

[lusty dove]

since they take ages to kill, can be dodged, and are excellent at infighting

[onyx scroll]

though I usually put them in a "to be determined" priority category

[lusty dove]

you are much better off killing everything else first so that you can let the cyber infight and lose some health, and then you have much more space to fight the cyber

but ofc that also can change depending on the geometry of the fight and what other enemies there are and stuff

[onyx scroll]

yeah

though, I have come here to say something that might be a hot take

I usually put lost souls as my absolute highest priority

[lusty dove]

that is not a hot take

[onyx scroll]

they can fuckin' oneshot you sometimes (face rocket)

but yeah, I weirdly put more of the lower health enemies on some of my higher priorities

as they're usually the ones that take up the most space in a fight

[lusty dove]

nah thats not weird thats called being good at the game

[onyx scroll]

more like "knowing what the hell you're doing"

you can know what you're doing yet still be bad

[onyx scroll]

also because chaingunner

oh, also I really recommend Nostalgic Entropy: Neo Retro

probably the best single-map Doom 2 WAD I've ever played

[crystal schooner]

adding it to the list

[bitter solstice]

I wonder if someone did make a mod where the cultists from blood are added into doom

Them throwing dynamite and all

[tight ether]

Fully interactive menu in a doom mod. You can use/drop items, select/drop weapons, equip/unequip/drop equippable items. You can also craft items/ammo.

[crystal schooner]

what the mcfuck

[tight ether]

Doom2 mod with lot of items. Unfortunately Doom2 ports don't keep track of inventory, so everything has to stored in arrays.

[onyx scroll]

Reminds me of a weird combo of Morrowind and Baldur’s Gate

[tight ether]

The menu is from Diablo 3.

[onyx scroll]

No wonder why I got that feeling, then

[crystal schooner]

When's Doomguy gonna go to Vardenfell?

[tight ether]

Well first he has to take the hobbits to Isengard.

[crystal schooner]

and ring the bells of awakening

[tight ether]

It also has reusable, rechargeable, and upgradable items and lots of other custom mechanics.

[crystal schooner]

@lusty dove Do I need to install the texture pack to play eviternity?

[lusty dove]

no

[crystal schooner]

huh.

[lusty dove]

the textures are packaged with the wad

[lusty dove]

why? is it not working?

[crystal schooner]

getting a fatal errot about a sprite missing rotations

[lusty dove]

is it a fatal error or just a warning

because i get that error sometimes in ports but it doesnt actually break anything

[crystal schooner]

"R_InstallSprite: Sprite BSPI frame A is missing rotations"

[lusty dove]

what source port?

[tight ether]

I believe that map pack requires GZDoom.

[lusty dove]

no it does not

[crystal schooner]

it is gzdoom

[lusty dove]

it works on any mbf compatible port

[lusty dove]

huh

[crystal schooner]

and now my deck is frozen. uno momento

[lusty dove]

is it like a really old version

[crystal schooner]

nope should be the most recent one.

hang on

[tight ether]

Work fine for me in Zandro, which is like 11 years behind GZDoom.

[crystal schooner]

hmmmmmm

Tried running it again and same thing. The error pops up and then my deck just kinda freezes. Hope it's nothing to do with the OS.

Might be something messy with the installation. I also tried running Overboard first and that ran into a whole bunch of problems.

Doom 2 base works fine through GZdoom and GZdeck tho

[tight ether]

Eviternity II requires GZDoom.

[crystal schooner]

maybe it's GZdeck that's the problem. Let me try running it through zdoom

*ZDL

[lusty dove]

also no

it works on any mbf21 source port

[lusty dove]

might be something to do with the linux version of gzdoom?

[lusty dove]

oh wait maybe gzdeck is running on an old version of gzdoom?

[tight ether]

Not Zandro

[lusty dove]

yeah zandro is not mbf21 compatible

[crystal schooner]

switched to using ZDL and still the same problem

[lusty dove]

yeah strange

[crystal schooner]

Also overboard is complaining about something called "Playpal"

[lusty dove]

yeah that is the lump

oh wait are you launching it with doom 1 by accident? or launching it as the iwad

[crystal schooner]

I should be launching it as the iwad...

[lusty dove]

no you should not

[crystal schooner]

oh

[lusty dove]

you should be launching doom 2 as the iwad with it as the pwad

[crystal schooner]

go on

wait what the fuck is a pwad

hol up

in zdl should I be putting the wads into the external files and not the iwads?

forgive me it's actually been a minute since I've done this and I kinda had to reinstall a bunch of shit because of a dumbass mistake I made trying to recover my linux password for this thing not too long ago

[tight ether]

the fatal error points to this. Guess Zandro doesn't support all those parameters yet. And ugh BRIGHT on empty states.

[crystal schooner]

so if I'm being an idot... that's why

GOT IT

That was exactly the problem Everything's working now.

thanks everyone

I ended up trying Overboard first

@onyx scroll This fucking music is hilarious

[lusty dove]

theres also a bunch of new codepointers and stuff it doesnt support

i dont think they are planning to support it either

[tight ether]

Yeah it's like 11 years behind. ZScript. There netcode can't handle anon functions.

[crystal schooner]

One thing I've noticed about playing classic doom with a controller so much is that holding down sprint makes you turn faster and I just think that's funny

[tight ether]

Not to mention 0 duration loops in DECORATE have to coded very carefully.

[crystal perch]

map 07 done!

[old seal]

minor nitpick: any idea why this monster pack https: SLESH SLASH www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/rwvgznyenz493b0e23fd5/gs-h-monsters1d-harkubus-baron-black-red-unwinged.wad?rlkey=vssy7738z8ayyv86if6t9ut1k&e=1&st=yr653x28&dl=0 turns automap map names in that specific mapset to vanilla/default pls? thanks

(no matter what order I load them in ZDL)

[old seal]

I have been trying to tinker w/ the dehacked files inside the wads yesterday, but w/ no luck solving it. I was just wondering cause there is no such compatibility problem w/ the meshup monster pack for other mapsets

[red loom]

Hello

i'm looking for some wads with maps that have a build engine quality

not utterly amazing for doom but much more detailed

[bitter solstice]

gz or prboom compatible?

[red loom]

gz

[bitter solstice]

Oh

[whole blade]

'build engine quality' = doors that kill you

[onyx scroll]

Noted, replacing pinkies with door sprites.

[dull crater]

can anyone offer some insight as to why i can't get myhouse to run? my kid wants to play it badly but i'm too thick to figure it out

[onyx scroll]

so, just asking this first, do they have GZDoom installed on their computer?

second, do they actually own a copy of Doom 2?

[dull crater]

yes and yes

when i drag the pk3 onto gz it opens up a menu asking which game i'd like to load

[onyx scroll]

select Doom 2 from that list

it should load into myhouse after that

[onyx scroll]

okay, I think I know the issue, then

get your hands on an older version of GZDoom

I've heard trying to run the map with more recent versions causes things to break

[dull crater]

ok, i'll give that a try, def appreciate your input

[onyx scroll]

if it comes up with any other problems, lmk

[dull crater]

maybe this version is too old xD

[onyx scroll]

yeah, just upgrade slowly till it works lol

[dull crater]

thanks bro

[red loom]

Another minor thing

are there any midi improvements

They don't turn them full modern

but improves the general quality akin to Build engine games

I'm really interested in

perfecting my NTMAi mod gameplay.

[shut crane]

I am making a school presentation on a Doom Wad

[lusty dove]

you mean improvements to the midi format?

like for music?

[crystal schooner]

that's really cool

[dull crater]

i got it to woork btw, needed version 4.10.0. thanks again.

[lusty dove]

nice, what wad

[shut crane]

Doom 2, is boom compatible and I'm gonna do the presentation on Tuesday

[lusty dove]

oh you are making a wad for a presentation

i thought you meant you were doing a presentation about an existing one

[shut crane]

Yeah a sort of digital museum and I'm gonna make a few levels where you need to do a Physics Quiz, I'm gonna make 2 teleporters for each question, and the right answer makes you go further to the level, the wrong one makes you go into a trap or a section with demons you have to beat

I am making the textures with the text and all

[lusty dove]

oh cool!

[sinful loom]

would it be possible to make the STBAR transparent in vanilla doom?

like only the % of the hp,armor, ect visible

[onyx scroll]

No, sadly

I’ve tried some stuff myself, but the back of the status bar always shows

You basically need a port that has such

Which to be fair most ports have such a feature

[sinful loom]

Ahh alright

ill go for a black background then, ty anyways

[livid crescent]

So I'm working on this projectile and am confused
It's supposed to do only 15 damage to the player, but It kills me in one hit when fired from an enemy.
What's causing this?

Is there some sort of splash damage thing? How would I prevent that?

(Also, what does +NOBLOCKMAP exactly do?)

[red loom]

Basically

[lusty dove]

wait that makes it like a build engine game?

doesnt duke nukem use midi also?

[red loom]

they kind of sound a bit better though

but also kind of more like blood

which sounds better to me

[lusty dove]

looks like blood also uses midi

so maybe you are just hearing it with a different soundfont? or the midis are just arranged better?

[red loom]

Possibly

[onyx scroll]

100% a different sound font

As midis can be drastically different depending on the hardware

[red loom]

Btw i found this thing where you load it with gzdoom it changes to colour palette to build engine

[red loom]

what soundfont should i use?

[onyx scroll]

Beats me, not a Build Engine person

Also, it’s entirely to personal preference

[whole blade]

midis are written for specific sound fonts usually. using the wrong one can make them sound like garbage

[red loom]

oh yeah ofc

[lusty dove]

oh apparently there is a cd version of the blood soundtrack

so maybe that is wwhat you have heard

[red loom]

No no i had cd track disabled

but the soundfont Just sounded better I think

[lusty dove]

ah yeah likely a soundfont thing then, because there arent really any improvements to midi
that would make it sound significantly better at least

[onyx scroll]

Ofc, but usually it can be personal preference

At least in my experience

Actually, eh I’m probably wrong

As I do run SC-55 and an acoustic drum set

[whole blade]

Depends on the sound font from my understanding. Some are similar enough that it's a personal preference thing. Some seem to butcher midis pretty bad

I'm no expert in this, but I know a good chunk of the top midi composers.

Hopefully I'm not making shit up lol

[red loom]

i could download improved midis

[whole blade]

Doom midis are perfection. There is no improved

[distant pendant]

Does anyone have recommendations for people to watch if i wanna learn how to use ultimate doom builder?

[whole blade]

David Newton and Jimmy probably have the nest beginner mapper tutorials

Dragonfly has just started a series

I've got a bunch of tutorials but they're more on a technical level

[distant pendant]

Awesome, thank you

[smoky axle]

How do I take just one map out of a wad? I want to take the first map from Doom 64 I'm making a deathmatch map, that will be combining the first level from Doom I, Doom II, and 64, in a way that makes sense, or at least gonna try to. Is that possible?
Like with textures still in tact

[lusty dove]

Are doom 64 maps compatible with the doom 2 engine?

I didn’t think they were

[whole blade]

they are not

Doom 64 has it's own fork of doombuilder

[whole blade]

easiest way is to use slade to extract the map you want

[smoky axle]

People have made doom 64 maps for classic doom via mods, aka brutal doom 64 for example, only problem is I would have to delete all actors, monsters, weapons, etc. I think for now, I'll just make my own interpretation of Dead Simple with Doom 64 textures, since I found a doom 64 texture pack. The goal is for me to make a mapset of maybe like 12-16 maps inspired by arena shooters throughout the decades: 90's-2000's, 2000's-2010's, etc.

[whole blade]

Yes, you need to use the specific Doombuilder fork for Doom 64 maps

But if you want to recreate a Doom 64 map in Doom 2, you might be able to copy and paste the line defs by opening the map in Doombuilder 64, and having a blank map in UDB

Otherwise you'll have to do it all manually

If you do straight copy paste a Doom 64 map, don't release it. Copying iwads is a good way to get eviscerated from the community

[smoky axle]

Oh no I would never do that, that's terrible and shitting on someone else's hard work

[whole blade]

good to hear 👍

[silver ridge]

is there a place for hexen modding and map design?

[silver ridge]

I'm kinda wondering how they did the swing doors in hexen

[storm charm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1129815935461638266/1268554871284432976/Penance_4_Arena_Update.gif

Penance 4 Arena XL Beta 1:

• added the Tesla Gatling, a plasma slot chaingun that speeds up when you hit a bleeding actor
• added rock hammer, that gives you armor on hit of a bleeding actor
• returning map Tower of Bable, now named Old Bablon slightly revamped
• returning weapon sorcher from penance 2
• monsters now take scorch damage and explode on death
• various buffs to bfgs and other weaons for single player and co op play.

for whatever reason this chat didn't let me post the TSPG link

i just posted the wad itself

welcome, you've been indoctrinated into the skeleton army

[silver ridge]

does anyone know how I can find the server for hexen modding?

[weak turret]

Does Someone Know How to Add Player Select go DOOM II?

[trail lion]

https://youtu.be/90lll818RM8

[royal wave]

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#Doom #Modding

Bluesky · Feb 28, 2025, 12:11 AM

[icy cypress]

does anyone know if there's a wad that fixes the errors that were made when the levels of doom 1/2 were made (misaligned textures, hall of mirrors effect, etc.)?

[whole blade]

no, redistribution of iwads is illegal

[icy cypress]

my bad, didnt know that mapping fixes fell under that

[whole blade]

the only way to alter a map, is to alter the map

mods can't (at least not easily) change texture alignment, add textures, change map geometry etc

you can do some pretty crazy stuff via zscript but that only works for zscript ports, ie gzdoom

[whole blade]

you can make textures in a mod that replace existing ones (by using the same name), but that's about it

[shut crane]

I would like to know too

[shut crane]

I remember seeing your Balmora from Morrowind map months maybe one year ago

[old seal]

what is your favourite map from the 4 new megawads? I like map16 from Brisk 2

[karmic egret]

any mappers who aren't busy here?

[red loom]

wu-- bu bu-- How?!

[surreal parcel]

Can't you just copy the level into a separate WAD, fix it there, and use that as a pWAD?

[onyx scroll]

yes, but you can't legally share that PWAD

[surreal parcel]

It's rather simple, and for personal use it should be fine, no?

There's nothing strictly telling one to share anything.

[storm charm]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/penance-4/downloads/penance-4-arena-xl-v13

[whole blade]

you've just altered the map (and you need permission from the mapper/license for that)

[surreal parcel]

oh ya true, mb

Don't alter official maps: end of story

[whole blade]

[royal wave]

Hold my beer

[whole blade]

That's why I said "not easily" 🙂

[royal wave]

I SAID HOLD IT

[old seal]

your favourite palette/colormap/tint? Boomer (pinkish), DBP70 (yellow), DBP71 (metalic blue/grey)?

[whole blade]

None of those. Anything by Ribbiks or Misty would be top of my list with shoutouts to the Eviternity and Simplicity palettes

[livid crescent]

in MBF21 Decohack, I want to have an enemy "aim" a sniper rifle. If I want them to aim at the player for 60 tics, is this the only way to really do it?

[old seal]

yeah, or DPB52 palette, looks stunning imho, especially combined w/ DBP litefx projectiles

[turbid leaf]

any mods that has "GOD IS COMING?"

y'know from Squirrel Stapler

[fervent glacier]

hey, i need to load myhouse.wad for a doom 2016 map im making, but i keep getting a parse error with gzdoom.

heres the full log:

OS: Windows 10 (NT 10.0) Build 19045
GZDoom version g4.14.0
Can't find 'E:/gzdoom-4-14-0a-windows/extras.wad'
W_Init: Init WADfiles.
adding E:/gzdoom-4-14-0a-windows/gzdoom.pk3, 689 lumps
adding E:/gzdoom-4-14-0a-windows/game_support.pk3, 3308 lumps
adding E:/gzdoom-4-14-0a-windows/doom2.wad, 2928 lumps
adding E:/gzdoom-4-14-0a-windows/game_widescreen_gfx.pk3, 214 lumps
adding E:/gzdoom-4-14-0a-windows/myhouse.txt, 1 lumps
adding E:/gzdoom-4-14-0a-windows/myhouse.pk3, 789 lumps
adding E:/gzdoom-4-14-0a-windows/myhouse.pk3:20pam.wad, 49 lumps
adding E:/gzdoom-4-14-0a-windows/myhouse.pk3:bloodfiend.wad, 121 lumps
adding E:/gzdoom-4-14-0a-windows/myhouse.pk3:blot.wad, 38 lumps
adding E:/gzdoom-4-14-0a-windows/myhouse.pk3:cerberus.wad, 173 lumps
adding E:/gzdoom-4-14-0a-windows/myhouse.pk3:hellfish.wad, 68 lumps
adding E:/gzdoom-4-14-0a-windows/myhouse.pk3:hf2nme.wad, 436 lumps
adding E:/gzdoom-4-14-0a-windows/myhouse.pk3:house.wad, 6 lumps
adding E:/gzdoom-4-14-0a-windows/myhouse.pk3:kd_smoke.wad, 7 lumps
adding E:/gzdoom-4-14-0a-windows/myhouse.pk3:mirrorvile.wad, 184 lumps
adding E:/gzdoom-4-14-0a-windows/myhouse.pk3:nightmare.wad, 60 lumps
adding E:/gzdoom-4-14-0a-windows/myhouse.pk3:shadow.wad, 118 lumps
adding E:/gzdoom-4-14-0a-windows/myhouse.pk3:shrek.wad, 14 lumps
adding E:/gzdoom-4-14-0a-windows/myhouse.pk3:spfx.wad, 843 lumps
adding E:/gzdoom-4-14-0a-windows/myhouse.pk3:stealer.wad, 42 lumps
S_Init: Setting up sound.
I_InitSound: Initializing OpenAL

Opened device IOpenAL Soft on Speakers (High Definition Audio Device)
EFX enabled
I_InitInput
I_StartupMouse
I_StartupKeyboard
I_StartupXInput
I_StartupRawPS2
I_StartupDirectInputJoystick
Vulkan device: INVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050
Vulkan device type: discrete gpu
Vulkan version: 1.3.280 (api) 560.376.0 (driver)
Max. texture size: 32768
Max. uniform buffer range: 65536
Min. uniform buffer offset alignment: 64
Resolution: 320 x 200
I_Init: Setting up machine state.
CPU speed: 3592 MHz
CPU Vendor ID: GenuineIntel
Name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4790 CPU @ 3.60GHz
Family 6, Model 60, Stepping 3
Features: SSE2 SSE3 SSSE3 SSE4.1 SSE4.2 AVX AVX2 F16C FMA3 BMI1 BMI2 HyperThreading
V_Init: allocate screen.
ST_Init: Init startup screen.
Checking cmd-line parameters...
S_InitData: Load sound definitions.
G_ParseMapInfo: Load map definitions.
Texman.Init: Init texture manager.
ParseTeamInfo: Load team definitions.
LoadActors: Load actor definitions.
GScript error, "myhouse.pk3:zscript" line 75:
GCannot convert to name
Execution could not continue.
1 errors while parsing scripts

[onyx scroll]

Use an older version of GZDoom

[fervent glacier]

It's fine, im doing that now and myhousing myself

is good

🙂

[icy cypress]

might try and get into doom mapping, what's some good tools for vanilla-compatible maps?

[onyx scroll]

Ultimate Doom Builder.

though, Doom Builder X also works

[whole blade]

Ultimate Doom Builder for all your mapping needs

Use DBX if you have a particular affection for the Doom Builder 2 UI

[storm charm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/745737197650444299/1346573590593536123/image.png?ex=67c8ade2&is=67c75c62&hm=4f509ecfc066c8ef2aed0ba1c1f9de1e827a44f14ea20975e601e137b6c458aa&

[smoky axle]

I found a mod that turns brutal doom into Doom eternal, but the ssg from it doesn't have the hook, but there is a brutal doom ssg replacement that does, but when I use it with mod, when I go to pick it up, it does nothing, but if I type in summon ssg then the one from weapon replacement spawns & it does work, how do I make it so it's apart of the mod so no matter what the replacement will spawn?

[smoky axle]

I also found a plamsagun replacement & chaingun replacement that also have same issues as the ssg, I prefer these as well cuz the alt fires are more interesting. 🙂

[whole blade]

You have to recode the mod

Or make your own patch

[blissful fern]

I think this might be the place to ask.

Apart from that dementia wad (I can't recall the name of it) and that one (along the lines of) "Doom but as you remembered it", what are some other custom wads that incorporate the original Doom maps but do completely different things with it, expand them, subvert them etc?

[surreal swan]

there's a recent one on doomworld called 'YouAren'tSupposedToBeHere.PK3' thats kinda similar to those. it's pretty trippy when the maps start to completely fall apart lol so it should be what you're looking for

[storm charm]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/ultimate-mortal-kombat-doom/downloads/ultimate-mortal-kombat-doom-15-public-beta-1

[royal wave]

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PLEASE LAUGH

Bluesky · Mar 7, 2025, 2:20 AM

[tight ether]

All those A_FaceTargets can be combined in to a single line by simply repeating E 20 times. I can't actually show the code because it is considered spam for some reason. Alternately you could increase the frame to 5 and only repeat it 12 times. It will be a little bit easier on the engine. Don't be a Complex Doom modder.

[livid crescent]

So i could PPOM [E repeated 12 times] 5

[tight ether]

Yep as long as the source port supports it. Which MBF51 should, that's a very basic DECORATE function.

[old seal]

LITEFX projectiles mod from DBP69 turns green slimefall textures in other mapsets white. solution somebody pls? https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/150064-dbp69-caustic-industry/?page=2&tab=comments#comment-2900423

[slim heath]

Hello

[old seal]

hi, yeah?

[slim heath]

Nothing

[royal wave]

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Bluesky · Mar 9, 2025, 12:08 AM

[storm charm]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/ultimate-mortal-kombat-doom/downloads/ultimate-mortal-kombat-doom-xl-v15-release

- Added T-1000 To the roster in commemoration of the addition of T-1000 in Mortal Kombat 1
- Fixed Johnny's taunt not being loud enough.
- added Map UMKD35 "Steel Mill (Terminator Arena 3.0)"
- added Map UMKD36 "Canal Chase (Terminator Arena 3.0)"
beta 2
- T1000 fist now remove the Tcombo inventory tokens in the deselect state, hopefully fixing the
Xray bug.
- ADDED new sprite animation to T-1000's kick attacks, via an edit of the Brutal DOOM sprites.
- Scripts no longer work unless player is alive via dreo's Bugfix code.
beta 3
- NERFED johnny's shodow kick by 5 pts of damage on one of the frames, both his red and green shadow kick.
- Removed redudant T1000 sprite fist frames from the pk3, then replaced them in code with jonny's fist frames.
- buffed T-1000's hook attack from 3pts per damage tic to 4 of damage.
- T-1000's hook uppercut auto combo requires less tokens to activate.
- Reptile's Melee Combo attack has been buffed from 3pts per damage tic to 4 of damage.
beta 4
- ADDED the Vulken playerclass from the mod Penance to the roster.
release
- fixed the Vulken's fist tag to say "Skeleton fists" instead of "Memetic PollyAlloy"
-NERFED Dropkicking, it now consumes 30 stamina
- Berserk now replaced in code with another berserk replacer that gives 150 stamina in addition to healing the player and giving PowerStrength
- fixed a few frames on the vulken playerclass's Xray Death animation.
beta 6
- T1000's melee combo attack now ueses "A_Saw" to pull in enimies instead "A_Custompunch" ```

[icy cypress]

does anyone have any beginner's tips for doom mapping?

[old seal]

is there save *.zdl keyboard shortcut in ZDL launcher pls? ctrl+S=save as

[old seal]

allign your textures, peg the door tracks correctly, darker looks better than brighter, detailed shadows...

[old seal]

Brightmaps Plus and More Lights standalones work but I find them too heavy. not possible to fix the white slimefall texture problem for otherwise perfect LITEFX somebody pls?

[shut crane]

Made my personal custom sprites

[royal wave]

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You know this exact feeling if you've worked retail. #Doom

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Bluesky · Mar 10, 2025, 6:47 PM

[upper rune]

we allowed to post WIPs here for constructive criticism?

[bitter solstice]

I'm sure you can

[whole blade]

Yeah it's fine

[old seal]

what is the most detailed map that runs w/out fps drops in GZDoom? Don't Turn Your Back On The City 2021?

[wintry marten]

Im trying to create raising stairs, but when I do, the floor goes up as well, the floor isn't the same tag as the stairs

[royal wave]

That's a bit of an impossible goal to meet, because that entirely depends on your hardware and what you're doing with it

what is your bar? As long as the map never drops below 60?

Because I know a few maps that aren't by any means a work of art that can tank your PC

[old seal]

in Abandon 2023, I can play maps 01+02 only, some fps drops later on

in Who Is Who 2025, I can play small detailed maps 01+03, not map02

in Boomer 2023, I get fps drops in maps04+06

(under 85 fps = laggy = not smooth for me)

[whole blade]

"lag drop" is an arbitrary term

If the map runs consistently at 10fps the entire time, then there is no lag drop

[onyx scroll]

I’ve really only heard the terms lag spike and frame drop, never lag drop

[whole blade]

Having a map where the frame rate doesn't change at all is functionally impossible

Well you could have a plain box

WOW.wad the pinnacle of mapping confirmed

[onyx scroll]

Due to how hardware works, that’s even bound to have a minor frame drop

So yeah, literally impossible

Off-point but if the mobile app doesn’t stop turning back pings right after I turn them off I will go insane

[whole blade]

I have all notifications turned off on my phone

[onyx scroll]

I mean reply pings. I try turning them off for mods.

[old seal]

what is the most detailed map that runs in 85+ fps in GZDoom on average HW w/ some mods? Don't Turn Your Back On The City 2021?

[onyx scroll]

I don’t even use GZ, I’m not your person to ask

I only do up to MBF21 stuff

[old seal]

no HOMs, no fps drops (under 85 fps) in GZDoom, sometimes even flat maps work (see Mindprison Project 2021 map18)...

[onyx scroll]

The FPS thing is redundant as soon as you take into account of people playing at the intended 35 FPS cap

You really only want the levels to be performant

[onyx scroll]

And also taking into account of people with different hardware

[icy cypress]

bro the original doom ran at 35 fps, you can live with 60

[onyx scroll]

The mapper may not be able to reach 85 FPS, but another player can

So you just don’t want the map being noticeably laggy

[icy cypress]

plus im using the standard doom mapping format, any maps i make will probably be able to run on a potato

[old seal]

85Hz screen, aint gonna play under 85fps

[icy cypress]

i have a 165hz screen, that doesnt mean anything under 165 fps is unplayable

[old seal]

last time I have seen 75Hz was 15 years ago, not going back

[icy cypress]

we can argue if a game is playable below 30 (or even 60) fps but 85 is ludicrous

[onyx scroll]

Another thing, not everyone has an 85 Hz display

[icy cypress]

yeah some people are using 30hz tvs from like 2007

[onyx scroll]

Some have as low as 60 Hz or less, or as high as 200+

There’s absolutely no way to guarantee a map will play well on one system to another

All you can do is optimize

[icy cypress]

exactly

different people have different hardware, what could run great on my pc could run horribly on yours

[onyx scroll]

Also another consideration: source port performance

It’s not a major thing in 90% of cases to be fair, but it is a real thing

Something could run well in DSDA but somehow horribly in Woof, for example

I’ve actually had that happen, still got no clue why to be honest

Wait no, reverse that

[whole blade]

frame rate depends entirely on your rig

well not entirely, but that will have a large impact

Just go play stuff

Lullaby is pretty well optimised

Exl maps are always good
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/105581-verdant-citadel/

The low spec edition of Bastion of Chaos might be fine for you
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/116003-bastion-of-chaos-low-spec-version-is-up/

That reminds me I need to fix the image embeds lol

[old seal]

what is the point in having hyperdetailed map (Miasma 2016, Hurt 2019, Bastion 2020...) if u then have to play it in not the best looking engine (DSDA etc...)?

[onyx scroll]

I personally find DSDA, Woof, etc. to look overall the best

Though for your actual question, it’s probably due to compatibility issues

There are some maps that will straight up not work under ZDoom-based engines

POOGERS, for example, will only work in Boom-accurate ports

[storm charm]

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/deathmatch/Ports/a-c/balm

[runic breach]

well what is the best looking engine lmao

bc doom looks really similar on every port that isn't gz

[storm charm]

https://youtu.be/7jRyt-2AZPo

[icy cypress]

really depends on the little things

nugget doom has a bunch of great small additions

[runic breach]

doom retro looks great

[old seal]

when I run NT map25 w/ the new REJECT fix, first run is smooth, then low fps again no matter what (GZDoom). what could cause such behaviour pls? https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/149103-necromantic-thirst-rc2/?page=6

[whole blade]

Gzdoom doesn't use reject tables iirc

[upper drum]

After three weeks of working on this, I finally fixed most of the issues and made a few more improvements to my Doom HUD mod. The video below shows all the stuff I added or changed, along with links in the description if you're interested in trying it.

https://youtu.be/i35zlZzORyo

[storm charm]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/ultimate-mortal-kombat-doom/downloads/ultimate-mortal-kombat-doom-xl-v16-release

[royal wave]

https://cbsky.app/profile/kevansevans.bsky.social/post/3lklz7ugmbc2s

[bitter solstice]

I discovered how to make a 3d floor, woo-hoo! :3

I still don't know how to make a transparent portal in doom builder lol

(I use ultimate doom builder and use the gz doom to test my maps)

[oblique pagoda]

Is anyone on here particularly skilled with ACS and ZScript? I've been working on a massive pwad for the past two years and I'm trying to create an item that when collected increases the player's maximum health by 10 each time one is collected. I tried asking Chat GPT but that is unreliable and my current implementation crashed the game.

[storm charm]

https://www.doomworld.com/idgames/levels/doom2/deathmatch/Ports/megawads/umkdxl

[pallid tulip]

I made my own demon in blender. Its name is "Laser Demon" and its basically a cacodemon that shoots lasers out of its eyes. The image contains every single sprite with the exception of the sounds and laser sprites

incase you guys wan't to update the design and add other stuff to it let me know

[lusty dove]

<@&162901871168585728>

[royal wave]

👍

[bitter solstice]

?

[lusty dove]

there was a scam link

[bitter solstice]

Oh

[old seal]

hi, OCULLA 2022 mapset: somebody able to delete 3/4 of monsters in maps03+31+32+33 so that they then run smoothly in GZDoom (software render) pls? I always break the maps when I try to edit them, thanks https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/126833-cl9-occulawad-rc1/

[pallid tulip]

guys how do i load custom enemies in Doom Builder?
I followed a tutorial made by chubbz and he said that the new enemy should load either in thye monsters section or in a new thing tab called "Decorate"
i loaded in an enemy and it didn't work
no decorate, no new monster, nothing

[old seal]

lite/GZ version w/ lower monster count would be great as I dig the architecture

[old seal]

no mod/argument to reduce monster count in these heavy slaughter maps pls? -nomonsters argument only?

[whole blade]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/115432-de-grinder-remove-tedium-from-your-dooming-make-slaughtermaps-easier/

Doesn't remove monsters, but it does reduce their hp

If a map has implemented difficulty settings, that usually reduces monster count

[weak turret]

Guys, How do I Make Move Bobbing

?

[onyx scroll]

What do you even mean by that?

[weak turret]

I Mean, Like When The Player Moves The Camera Moves Up and Move.

[onyx scroll]

it's a setting in some ports iirc

but if you're talking about programming it in ZScript or whatever, can't help you there

my knowledge only extends to MBF21 stuff

[hollow abyss]

If you're using GZDoom then the player pawn class should have properties for controlling bob speed, you'll have to do some overrides to completely customize the bob, assuming this is ZScript

[weak turret]

I'm new to ZScript

[hollow abyss]

I suggest referencing written code, it is pretty poorly documented

[weak turret]

Yeah, I Said I'm New to ZSCRIPT, i Know a Little Bit, I Got Some Knowledge from a Mod, That Should Not Be Named.

[opaque saffron]

Hello everybody. I'm new to this server and I just wanted to ask a question that my friend has been bugging me about. I've been telling him that the Kex port of Doom 1 and 2 cannot run Brutal Doom but he just doesn't believe me (He keeps saying modders are too lazy to port it). Can someone tell me EXACTLY why Brutal Doom cannot run in the Kex engine? Thank you.

[onyx scroll]

Simple: Brutal Doom uses advanced scripting languages that are only supported by the ZDoom family of source ports

you quite literally cannot port it unless the KEX port starts supporting Decorate and ZScript

[opaque saffron]

Thank you 🫡

[onyx scroll]

if he still doesn't believe that, I suggest ignoring him tbh

not to be an absolute dick, but just to save you a few gray hairs

[opaque saffron]

I understand and will take that advice should he ignore me

[storm charm]

there is a version i think made by DOOMKID or someone, i forgot who, but someone made a KEK engine supported burtal doom

it's a hacky version of brutal doom i think

it uses all sorts of trick in order to make it work.

from what i remember this version of burtal doom was supported by MBF21, it wasn't true burtal doom though.

ok so i found the doomworld post.

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/122982-boiled-doom-brutal-doom-for-dos-and-chocolate-new-version-12052023/

the mod is called boiled doom

true brutal doom uses Zdoom scripts, this version probably uses DEhacked.

[short harbor]

need the Doom 2 exclusive textures in a wad for DOOM 1

[modern adder]

Anybody here with experience uploading mods to the official KEX port? I experience a crash when hitting the verify levels button. The log shows that memory cannot be read, and I've tried changing the source to two different drives. Does it need to be placed in a particular subfolder that I've missed? Is it just a temporary bug/feature?

[nova harness]

hello

[modern adder]

In regards to the above, it was simply because I had forgotten to change some of the graphical assets from png to doom format.
It did lead down a UMAPINFO rabbit hole, and using UMAPINFO Designer to create that lump to import using Slade.

[royal wave]

https://bsky.app/profile/kevansevans.bsky.social/post/3llcda4ekvc2d

kevansevans (@kevansevans.bsky.social)

Here’s a teaser for my upcoming megawad I plan on releasing.

Bluesky · Mar 26, 2025, 5:37 PM

[royal wave]

https://bsky.app/profile/kevansevans.bsky.social/post/3llfocag3fc26

kevansevans (@kevansevans.bsky.social)

Out of context map development. #Doom #Modding

Bluesky · Mar 28, 2025, 1:33 AM

[fading bolt]

Make the sequel if you do HARDBOILED DOOM

[storm charm]

i didn't make it, someone else did

[fading bolt]

oh k

still u should tho

[bitter solstice]

currently a work in progress, some maps, items, and enemy placements are likely to change, most enemies are from realm 667

[onyx scroll]

What complevel, even?
Also, most textures are completely missing in every port I just ran this in.

[bitter solstice]

i don't know how to get everything into one thing, but having to find all of the seprate files would take a long time here

should i just dm?

[onyx scroll]

Just do that. Also, look into embedding the files directly into your WAD before you fully release it.

[onyx scroll]

How exactly I'm not fully sure of, as I never really worked with custom textures.

[bitter solstice]

i click this button?

[onyx scroll]

you need to use Slade to shove them in more than likely

unsure if UDB has a way to embed them automatically

[bitter solstice]

;^;

[onyx scroll]

Slade does have a little tutorial how to import map textures, but there's a different process for enemies more than likely

though, that tutorial does also assume all textures are apart of a single WAD

once you DM me the files you're using, I can DM you the tutorial

see if you can get anything out of it

[fading bolt]

Hey how do you make a door in doom builder X