classic-doom-maps-mods

[lofty creek]

Do not waste your time. I've found out the issue on my side...my overclock was not stable...on all games I have it was stable but not in doom 2 ray traced. I've decreased GPU clock by 10mhz and now runs fine. It was really hw issue you suspected at the beginning. Thanks

[onyx scroll]

Noted

[shut crane]

Ok I found out there is Doom Builder 64

Idk if I should show my progress of my Doom64 wad here or not. Because this channel is for classic doom

[royal wave]

Ask the creator if they're willing to port it. Otherwise, don't be uploading wads you didn't make

[trail glade]

Can run Doom...?

[onyx scroll]

that thing can only run pong my man

[trail glade]

I don't doubt anything after the fridge and microwave

[onyx scroll]

in this case the hardware almost literally only runs pong and all the cartridges do is give instructions on what the paddles can do

so sadly, no Doom on the Odyssey

[trail glade]

it will be?

[hoary lotus]

Anyone know what this is and how to fix it? Tryna play my house.wad but it won’t let me every other kid works fine tho :/

[onyx scroll]

MyHouse.WAD does NOT work on this engine.

[hoary lotus]

That’s unfortunate :/

[onyx scroll]

Same with mods like Project Brutality, Brutal Doom, GZChaos, or any mod that requires ZDoom or GZDoom to run.

the only things that'll run on the port are Vanilla, Limit-removing, Boom, MBF, MBF21, and ID24 maps

[zinc quest]

anyone know why my script is not working?

ultimate doom builder with zdoom acs

[cobalt tree]

Hahaha I have asked that one before, I mean, I you put a Doom paper in the TV and make the dot like some kind of pointer that flashes the screen, I would consider that as a sucess

[keen valley]

Oh woah yeah, we getting back to it

[lofty plover]

Ok

Anyone have trouble reload game on mods it is saying mods not installed while it is on leathest doom

[muted stone]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/147907-derelict-storage-first-map-release/ :)

[worthy spoke]

do you like my fountain

[lofty creek]

Hello do you think that gzdoom can combine more mods? E.g. I would like to combine doom 2 raytraced with brutal doom?

[west sage]

just use any frontend and load them at once

no guarantees if they're actually compatible

[lofty creek]

I don't have a lot of skills what means load? I have used doom 2 ray traced mod installed it and when I open gzdoom it is automatically working without loading the mod separately

[worthy spoke]

i think like, loading a mod/wad, but idk if thats what they means

[lofty creek]

Doom 2 ray traced is using steam version of doom + doom 2... So where to place files from brutal doom mod

[worthy spoke]

idk if brutal doom works on the steam version of doom

maybe you can use the addons in the addon browser

[flat harness]

it won't run on the rerelease, no

Brutal Doom is only for GZDoom

[worthy spoke]

rerelease as the wads in the rerelease folder or the main game?

[flat harness]

the WADs are fine, they work either way
just not on the rerelease's engine

[worthy spoke]

tbh what even is the difference between them

whats the difference between doom.wad and DOOM.WAD

[flat harness]

basically nothing, other than the Wolfenstein and Red Cross assets censorship

there were some new lumps added from the new port's feature-set, but they are minor, not supported anywhere else yet

[worthy spoke]

i wonder if you can like moosh the new engine from steam doom with GZDoom, is GZDoom going to get updated

[flat harness]

moosh?

[worthy spoke]

merge

[flat harness]

as in, merge the new engine features? they might be, depends on weather or not the GZD devs feel like adding them

the full formal specification for the new features isn't complete yet, but is being discussed among port devs to get it all worked out

[keen valley]

Oh woah yeah, It's all coming together

[worthy spoke]

why is my water black

[worthy spoke]

nvm its because of the fog effect

[hexed topaz]

Can someone tell me a random doom mod? I'd like to play a cool one...

[onyx scroll]

Overboard

[hexed topaz]

I'm trying to open it in delta touch and it doesn't work

[onyx scroll]

what port are you selecting?

[hexed topaz]

Gzdoom

[onyx scroll]

yeah, it should work then..

[hexed topaz]

1.9.1

[worthy spoke]

Ashes, probably idk

[onyx scroll]

try loading just the WAD and not the ZIP

also make sure it's Doom 2 as the IWAD

[hexed topaz]

Ok

[onyx scroll]

also, Eraser's a good map

[hexed topaz]

Can you send me the link?

[onyx scroll]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/144567-eraser-v20-a-creepy-adventure-map-cl9-boom/

[hexed topaz]

Thx

[onyx scroll]

it's more exploration than there is fighting at least when I played

also, the map's quite long

[hexed topaz]

Oh, ok 👍

[onyx scroll]

I just realized I sent you V2 instead of V3

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/147486-eraser-rc1-update-a-single-level-partial-conversion-boom/

@hexed topaz sorry for the ping I just don't want you with the wrong version of it

[hexed topaz]

Nah, that's ok

I'll download it, but V2 worked

[hexed topaz]

V3 worked, so I think the problem was overboard?

[onyx scroll]

maybe Overboard refuses to work idk

[hexed topaz]

Yeah

[onyx scroll]

it works perfectly fine for me on Nugget Doom

though you're on mobile so that isn't an option really

[hexed topaz]

Unfortunately yes

[onyx scroll]

maybe try Overboard on PrBoom+?

just make sure to include -complevel 9 in the launch options

[hexed topaz]

Never heard of this one before, lol, but I'll try it

[onyx scroll]

oh wait, Delta actually uses PrBoom

it should still work on PrBoom, though

[hexed topaz]

Oh

[onyx scroll]

yeah, it works on PrBoom

[hexed topaz]

Ohh, I didn't see that delta touch has other ports too.... Sorry, just bought it 1 hour ago lol

[onyx scroll]

no worries man

[cobalt tree]

This is cursed

[elfin ruin]

The new remaster of Doom + Doom II, what mapping formats are supported?

[flat harness]

Vanilla/Boom/MBF/MBF21 and the new ID24

there are still many bugs in so be careful with Boom and up

[elfin ruin]

Thank you.. I just now need to figure out why Ultimate Doom Builder keeps crashing when trying to create a map for MBF21 format lol

[hexed topaz]

Can someone help me? My delta touch can't open some wads

[river kiln]

so i was kinda dissapointed when finding out warhammer boltgun wasn't a doom mod but uhh...
have y'all got any warhammer mod recommendation i can play on my Doom?

[worthy spoke]

Why

[cobalt tree]

How do you have a floor over a floor

[flat harness]

GZDoom, UDMF, most definitely

[cobalt tree]

That's possible in GZ?

[flat harness]

yeah

[livid crescent]

what is the actor number for the zombieman and shotgunner for decohack (and maybe the other actors)?

[flat harness]

https://doomwiki.org/wiki/DeHackEd

[worthy spoke]

UDMF, 3D Floors, its pretty easy, go watch chubzdoomer video, you can also do it with the uhh 3d floors button thingy, the plugin thats already in ultimate doom builder? idk

[cobalt tree]

Guys I know there is a way to make GZDOOM display mp4s

But is there a way for Cheezy Doom to send you to a YouTube video through links?

It's for my Terry.wad

[livid crescent]

i've turned the zombieman into a sniper
amazing

[haughty flower]

is there a way to adjust the respawn timer for enemies in nightmare mode? i would like to make it the same every time instead of random

[flat harness]

the respawn time is always the same, it's the chance of any given enemy to respawn that is the issue

and no it can't be changed

[haughty flower]

i see. thank you

[onyx scroll]

At least in vanilla, Boom, and MBF(21). GZDoom might have some weird stuff that'll allow you to do it but I doubt it.

[livid crescent]

How do I change what pickup the zombieman drops in decohack?

[minor scaffold]

Hello everyone, does anyone know how one would go about adding a visible tracer effect to the BFG? Something similar to the D64 Unmaker lasers (but thinner) could be a great bit of visual feedback. I'd like to implement this in GZDoom, but I'm not certain how. Thank you

[sterile schooner]

There's probably a mod that does this already. You could take a look at the mod's files

[minor scaffold]

I had a look, I couldn't find anything that does something like this unfortunately

[sterile schooner]

ah damn 😔

[cobalt tree]

I'll investigate. What type of DEHACKED are you using?

[fickle zephyr]

||i just beat the true ending to myhouse!|| spoilers for myhouse

||Got to the beach with the dog and everything! god dam that final stage was hard ||

[shut crane]

Has anyone ever think about making a music pack featuring all of the songs that some Doom tracks are based off of? Like Them Bones being the inspiration for Bye Bye American Pie or Behind The Crooked Cross for Deep Into The Code

[keen valley]

I'm sure you can look up midis on those exact songs, and use Slade to put them into a wad file replacing the music

[summer wolf]

redoing my Twilight Lab pastiche map

[summer wolf]

and here's a little something that I'm already super proud of (sorry for the spam)

[onyx scroll]

It ain’t spam lol. It’s looking nice so far, though.

[summer wolf]

thanks! I'm definitely feeling the spart again now, been the hardest map for me to crack but I'm sure I'll get it good

[cobalt tree]

I'm gonna put this in my wad

As a Wall Texture

[worthy spoke]

[raven nimbus]

Delgado doomguy

[cobalt tree]

De que estas hablando?

[brave hemlock]

this one too, it was said that id wanted to add discord integration into doom 2 but sadly they couldn't make it in time

[solar brook]

Where was this said?

[brave hemlock]

joke

discord in 1994 is an interesting thought tho

[solar brook]

Thought u were talkin about the rerelease

[brave hemlock]

ohhh

that would be amusing

you're just playing doom and then you get pinged on discord so your doomguy icon turns into

[solar brook]

That would actually be funny as fuck

Time to make a mod that reacts to the discord "ping sound"

[brave hemlock]

[elfin ruin]

Discord in 1994? We had that, it was called IRC.

[brave hemlock]

alright then, stream me your desktop on irc

we had vcs in 1890s... it was called TELEPHONE, zoomers!

[stone scaffold]

Im not sure if this counts but how do you fix gzdoom opening up default wads but the mods in question have the custom weapons and such

[onyx scroll]

what mods are you loading and how are you loading them?

[stone scaffold]

I’m playing the latest version of Vietdoom and how I usually do it I extract the files before I play them

[onyx scroll]

I mean are you using the CLI, batch files, a launcher?

[stone scaffold]

I usually just use gzdoom and nothing else

[onyx scroll]

if you're using the CLI or batch files, it'd be nice if you could provide the arguments

[onyx scroll]

I'm just assuming you're dragging the files onto GZDoom, then?

[stone scaffold]

I click on open with to open them

[onyx scroll]

if so it's a very finicky way of loadings mods and isn't exactly advised

[onyx scroll]

yeah, that's also quite finicky sometimes

[stone scaffold]

Mk

[onyx scroll]

ok, I did what you were doing and VietDoom was working perfectly fine on my end

try using a launcher and see if that helps at all

ZDL is your best choice but I have my own launcher you can use if you wished or didn't like/understand ZDL

[stone scaffold]

Mk

[livid crescent]

Sorry for the late response, I'm using DEHACKED version 3.0, compiled with DECOHACK version 0.33.0

[stone scaffold]

How do you choose a source port?

[cobalt tree]

that isn't what i meant, sorry

[livid crescent]

What did you mean then?

[cobalt tree]

@livid crescent

[livid crescent]

MBF21, you will need Doomtools for it

whacked doesn't support mbf21

[cobalt tree]

I see.

[onyx scroll]

you go into the options and you can add in the sourceports you want, you can then go back to the main screen and select it from there

[stone scaffold]

K

[stone scaffold]

It keeps saying please select an iwad

[onyx scroll]

Oh yeah, you do need to shove your IWAD files into ZDL as well

I can't honestly remember where you import them, though

haven't used ZDL on months as I've been using my own launcher

[onyx scroll]

if you don't know where your IWAD files are, they're in the /base directory of Doom + Doom 2

it may or may not be slightly different in the Unity versions

[sharp solar]

This is somewhat of a long shot but here goes:
I'm a long time NES pixel artist of 5 years looking to see the system get a true DOOM port that runs on real hardware. I had a friend who put together a small engine but wasn't able to finish it due to IRL stuff. I know it uses EDuke32 for map data, but it's some pretty gnarly C++. I have a lot of documentation on it but am pretty clueless as far as programming goes. It uses a Python image library to convert an image to 4 colors, then slices it up vertically into spans.

If anyone here is interested in getting an 8-bit NES port done
and has some C/ASM-6502 skills feel free to DM me.
I'd be more than happy to cover all graphics if the engine is completed.
(even if it's a single room as a proof of concept)
I know someone out there can finish this engine and make retro game history.
Thanks a ton.
https://github.com/mysterymath/nesrender
Here's an example of a raster graphics engine working without Eduke32.
https://vectrex28.itch.io/horror-hospital

[storm charm]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/ultimate-mortal-kombat-doom/downloads/ultimate-mortal-kombat-doom-xl-beta-01

[lusty dove]

Uhhh what’s the plan for actually drawing the thing to the screen

The nes draws stuff from tiles

[river kiln]

how do i play lost in darkness if my GZDOOM still crashes without any reasons at all (i only just dragged the game pk3 files, nothing else)

[old turtle]

How can I add colored lighting to this? I know it's possible but i'm not sure really how. I'm using UDMF format and zdoom ACS script.

[sharp solar]

Rasterizers and ray casters. See the completed Horror Hospital tech demo already uses ray casting to work on the NES.

[lusty dove]

But like how does it actually get the pixels onto the screen

The nes doesn't have like a framebuffer or anything

[sharp solar]

Here's a texture less example of the render.nes system working.
Delaying VBLANK and lowering the top of the screen gives ample time to push a full framebuffer of tiles.

[lusty dove]

Huh, I can't check it out ATM but I'll look at it later. Seems cool

I doubt the CPU is fast enough to run doom tho lol

Also there is not nearly enough ram

Or would the plan be to use a cart design with a stupid amount of extra ram

[sharp solar]

The biggest drawback would play speed. If the viewing screen is small enough rendering should work fine for level geometry. Since it doesn't use any sprites you can have enemies on screen as well (see horror hospital). In theory you wouldnt need any extra RAM to make it happen

[lusty dove]

Doom required 4MB of ram

The nes has 2KB. How will that be enough

Idk the math just isn't mathing for me with this

[sharp solar]

Renderer's show that 3D levels are possible. The smaller the level window is, the less graphics need to be commutated per frame and the more room you have per-screen to calculate it all.
Atari's "Way Out" uses a small window to generate much faster graphics then the current NES rendering systems.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4OLnrwLcJA

[lusty dove]

Yeah but even if the rendering is possible, that doesn't mean that the complexity of dooms levels and gameplay will be possible on the NES

Like wolf3d on the NES, maybe but idk about doom

[sharp solar]

The NES has room for 64 sprites, which is enough for small enemies and projectiles.

[lusty dove]

Yeah but that's not scaled

Those are just absolute sized sprites, they can't get smaller or bigger depending on how close they are

[sharp solar]

Rasterizers make complex level geometry possible.
And sprites can be stored at different scales to work.

It won't be smooth, but it will be possible

[lusty dove]

Again, the rendering is not the issue

The memory is

You might be able to make a very simple fps game that looks vaguely doom like, but you aren't gonna get something approaching the complexity of doom

Like for example, look at the SNES port, the SNES has an order of magnitude more RAM than the NES, not to mention the super FX chip to actually draw pixels to the screen, and even that was just barely able to run doom

And they had to simplify the level geometry and remove floor/ceiling textures

[sharp solar]

The MMC5 has 512kb's of total data and up to up to 128KB of WRAM

[lusty dove]

yeah if you are using an advanced mapper

then maybe it could be possible

[sharp solar]

Which still technically count's as not cheating as you arent just using a rasberry pi to fake it.

[lusty dove]

yeah

although everyone kinda draws the line in a different place as to when it becomes cheating lol

[sharp solar]

Still technically 1980's hardware built for the system like the Super FX chip

[lusty dove]

i think that the raspberry pi deal isnt cheating, its just a bit less cool

the raspberry pi trick is sorta no different from the super fx chip, its including an extra processor in the cartridge

one of them is just a lot more powerful than the other lol.

i think your best bet actually would be rainbow mapper. rainbow is a homebrew cartridge that was designed recently that is basically better mmc5

https://github.com/BrokeStudio/rainbow-net/blob/master/NES/mapper-doc.md

it can have up to 8MB data and 128KB WRAM

[sharp solar]

Personally I'd like to keep it functional with flash carts and NES emulators. Modern mappers arent really supported.

[lusty dove]

i think rainbow is actually pretty well supported these days

and as more games are coming out using it, support will just get better

theres already super tilt bro released

and there are more games being developed for it atm

[sharp solar]

Intresting... I'll have to check it out and see if it runs hardware side.

[lusty dove]

it does

broke studio makes carts for it

here lets move to dms since htis is getting off topic

[sharp solar]

Sounds good

feel free to @ me

[old turtle]

How can I get this look for colors in doom? I can't get these softer colors in my doom map

i feel like the way the colors are that I get are harsher and doesn't look as nice.

[whole blade]

Easiest way to find out is to open the wad and see what the did

But that looks like coloured sector lighting

Actually, first is just the textures, second is a dynamic light, third is coloured sector lighting

[old turtle]

I can't seem to open it up in doom buildor

[hexed topaz]

Can someone help me with zandronum?

[whole blade]

you have to extract the map wad first

[whole blade]

what's the issue

[hexed topaz]

I'd like to know how it works, cuz everytime i try to join a server, it doesn't work

I'm using delta touch btw

[whole blade]

well there's the issue

delta touch

[toxic pier]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJbffdWtRRA

[hexed topaz]

Wdym?

Delta touch is the problem?

[onyx scroll]

more than likely

[hexed topaz]

Oh

[full adder]

Have you guys ever played UAC.labs wad ???

[cobalt tree]

No, but I heard its not pretty good. Also, I dont think this might be the appropiate channel to talk about its creator, you should do this in #general at 10:30 PM, thats when people usually talk about weird subjects in general for some reason, its like a tradition at this point.

[cobalt tree]

I think you click a sector to edit it and go to the lighting area (forgot what it is called) and you use Doom 64 Colored Lighting

Also, can all of you guys do me a favor?

[cobalt tree]

Hide this texture in y'all's wads.

[full adder]

I did'nt know anything abouts its reputation sorry

[umbral skiff]

Hey just for a general consensus

How long can it take to make a level, before it's no longer considered a speedmap?

[cobalt tree]

IDK, but levels usually take me a day and a half. Or maybe I just get distracted too easily

[umbral skiff]

distractions a big issue for me too

[worthy spoke]

kaka demon

[cobalt tree]

@cloud bramble

[cloud bramble]

YAYAYAYAYAYAYAY

[umbral skiff]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/148229-speed-21-a-speedmap-by-memeaids-530/

Ta-da

[worthy spoke]

whats a cool fun doom wad that has cool maps and doesnt change anything else than the maps

can be with udmf gzdoom map format or whatever or just the normal one

[worthy spoke]

and maybe is fun with brutal doom

[umbral skiff]

2003's The Rebirth is pretty cool

2017's DOOM II: Redux as well.

[livid crescent]

https://youtu.be/oKr5ByLJdA4?si=uiiZu0Ny2knoZBWu

I'm working on a DOOM II mod, here's a video of the first few levels

There's a ModDB link in the video's description

Let me know what you guys think of the video

[strong shell]

are there any texture conflicts between Doom and Doom II? i.e. if I load Doom II on top of Doom or vice versa do any of the textures get replaced, not including missing textures

[whole blade]

what are you trying to achieve? loading 2 iwads is generally a Bad Idea

but yes, there are a bunch of shared textures

[lusty dove]

why do you want to load them on top of each other?

[old turtle]

Anyone know where I could possibly find map layouts for the levels in the alpha doom? Even just a simple layout with no real detail is fine

[cobalt tree]

what even is alpha doom

[harsh nova]

Hi guys, is there a way to have doom + doom II steam entry launch the doom II ray traced mod?

I tried unpacking it into the rerelase folder and renaming gzdoom exe to doom

but then I get this error when I try launching it from steam

Oh it worked with the dos version launcher instead

[trail bolt]

any way to publish/edit mod releases for the bethesda/nightdive port from the website?

[red spire]

hi i have problems in ultimate doom builder

im working on a custom doom game for my dad since he played it when he was young

[cobalt tree]

idk mods right now are mess

[cobalt tree]

do you have the wad?

[red spire]

I just redownloaded the wad, but idk what to do for the sectors error

[red spire]

(The doom2 wad to fix textures)

[cobalt tree]

if I could look into the WAD with SLADE, I could find the issue

same with the sector issue in UDB

[red spire]

The sector error is when i try to launch it in ultimate doom maker

I use crispy doom as an engine

[cobalt tree]

same

look, idk what is causing the issue. I need more information. I need the wad, but if you don't want to share it, at least I need more screenshots

[red spire]

Im not on my pc rn

[cobalt tree]

oh ok

well, I will try to at least investigate online

thanks for the clarification

[cobalt tree]

@red spire did you do what this guy might have done?

maybe that could cause a texture issue

did you load your custom textures into texturex and patch table, or did you leave them in as a graphic?

[red spire]

Im still figuring out how to add custom textures

Didnt add any yet

[strong shell]

either way it wouldn't show as double defined in Doom2's wad. if I remember correctly though, I remember hearing that some commercial versions of the WAD have those sorts of errors when opening in UDB, but they still function the same.

[trail bolt]

is this showing for anyone else's mod? Im viewing a mod I published to Doom + Doom II and its just showing this. fortunately people seem to still be able to add it to thier library and play it, but it's still weird for it to show this.

[strong shell]

what's it called?

[strong shell]

for some reason it's on literally every mod I click on, not just your's

[trail bolt]

oh

then its probably just the site tweaking lol

[strong shell]

yeah, I thought it was just a recent mods thing, until I clicked on Sigil II and saw it there too lol

[worthy spoke]

what game is that

[trail bolt]

goop 2

I kinda half-assed the mod but I just wanted to see if uploading worked on linux

[worthy spoke]

what is that

[trail bolt]

doom 2

[worthy spoke]

how did you say goop 2

fucking goop 2

i wanna play goop 2

[trail bolt]

I sometimes call doom "goop" because its funny

[strong shell]

goop 2 is sick

[worthy spoke]

same

[fleet trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/ascending-canny-mr-incredible-heart-of-courage-becomes-canny-gif-24424839

[trail bolt]

this is literally a mod I made in like 2022 lol

[cobalt tree]

You are alive?

[fleet trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/melissabug-thinking-brain-science-confused-gif-26212921

[cobalt tree]

What is so confusing about my question? Because there must be something, as you have thought about mathematics instead of simple ancient logic. You might have committed a mistake of seeing the letters formed in my sentence (which is more Language Arts related than logic, but still) and having mistaken them for variables. This is still a rookie mistake, as first of all, you don't have the value to those variables, leaving you with the most simple result and nothing to simplify, and second, as I have said, there are no numbers related to the problem, making your use of complicated geometrical formulas and problems look more like a meme, which are considered forbidden here in the Doomcord.

[fleet trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-thinking-gif-23334820

[red spire]

Solved the issues

Ty tho already made my own custom texture i think it looks good

[cobalt tree]

Nice to hear

[old turtle]

Alpha doom is versions 0_2, 0_3, 0_4, and 0_5 of dooms development stages from February to May of 1993. They are very simple compared to the doom that was released to the public.

A lot of the levels are different, either simpler, unfinished, or different in certain areas. Items are different, so are some enemies. It's a cool little bit of doom's development that I've taken special interest in.

[jolly nymph]

could someone dm me a blank base .pk3 file with just a normal folder in it. ive tried every single way to make a zip into a pk3 and ive been losing braincells. nothing has worked. im being serious. and ive made sure the hidden stuff is off, renaming is allowed. all of it. please, this would be a major help.

[keen valley]

Is there a tutorial on how to add custom enemies to Ultimate Doom Builder??? I've watched like three videos and tried three separate times to add custom enemies, I've used the same programs that the videos use, aside from GZ doom builder being replaced with ultimate doom builder, and enemies still aren't showing up in the editor.

All the videos that I'm finding are like 4+ years old, The comments of the videos say that it works, but I can't get it to work in the slightest

[keen valley]

I mean these are the three videos that I watched, usually chubz can explain it and make it work, and I still couldn't get the monsters to show up

And if not chubs then lazy gamer usually does good, but I still couldn't get it to work, all I need are scientists zombies, which they even used the female scientist zombie as a demonstration monster, I couldn't figure it out for the life of me, is there a dumbed down video or explanation on how to get these things to work

[whole blade]

Looks like you've loaded your iwad twice and haven't used a node builder

[red spire]

Skippy

[cobalt tree]

Where are your custom enemies in the files?

[keen valley]

I can post them once I get home, they're not really mine they're from around 667

[keen valley]

Realm 667*

[cobalt tree]

I know you got them from there, but where are they now? In your wad?

[keen valley]

Yeah I was trying to put them in to my wad because that's what the past few videos have said to do

[cobalt tree]

We have doom eternal at home
Doom Eternal:

[cobalt tree]

do you have SLADE 3?

[haughty flower]

yea haha

[keen valley]

Ayup, follow the videos note for note, but I'm not sure if there's a difference between using GZ doom builder and ultimate doom builder with this way of doing it, but yeah I was putting them into my wad using Slade

[cobalt tree]

did you put them correctly? Could I see your wad?

[cobalt tree]

is it vanilla or GZDoom or in between?

[cobalt tree]

doom slayer found the secret level

little did he know, it was a doom 2 level

[haughty flower]

secret "a classic level"

[cobalt tree]

from Doom 2016

[keen valley]

While I would have to go back and put them back in once I get home but yeah, give me like....2ish hours and I'll dm ya it

[haughty flower]

I made this mod, (but it is not very well known)

[cobalt tree]

sure

[cobalt tree]

You did? That's amazing!

[haughty flower]

thanks, I'm Argentine, that's why the mod is not so well known, (it will be published on October 20)

[cobalt tree]

Nice! Can't wait to play it, I am leaving this server for a while, though. But you can always dm me

[haughty flower]

Okay! If it's not too much trouble, I'll talk to you in a little while.

[royal wave]

I have some horrible news to share with everyone: https://bsky.app/profile/kevansevans.bsky.social/post/3l4wtyfix4r24

[idle kite]

Oh god

[haughty flower]

I don't get it... is it F3 being load

[royal wave]

OUICKSAVE

[haughty flower]

Ohhh

I am blind

[onyx scroll]

...why did you have to make everyone else suffer with this knowledge?

[royal wave]

Making people suffer is sorta my thing

[onyx scroll]

:(

[royal wave]

Have you played GZChaos

[onyx scroll]

I've tried it, yeah

Mainly because you advertised it on here once

[stuck pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

[keen valley]

anyone else know about custom monsters???'

[storm charm]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/doom-ii-fallout/downloads/brotherhood-of-steel-playerclass-mod-rc-2

[red spire]

what engine should i use for ultimate doom maker

also what engine is the best if i wanna do vanilla doom with higher resolution

[onyx scroll]

Crispy Doom

And seeing you want vanilla, select Doom v1.9 or Ultimate Doom depending if you want Doom 2 or Doom 1

[onyx scroll]

I will mention most ports with compelevels will also more than suffice (DSDA-Doom and Woof! for example) when they are on -complevel 2 for Doom 2/Doom v1.9 or -complevel 3 for Ultimate Doom

[onyx scroll]

Actually, I could be wrong about the names

I haven’t used UDB in a while

But basically don’t select anything that says UDMF or Heretic

[stable sun]

i am almost finished with my map electron soup, anybody interested to try it? feedback is welcome
doom 2, uv only, boom compatible, tested in gzdoom and dsda

[stable sun]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/148335-electron-soup-short-single-scifi-d2-map-rc1-boom-compatible/

[red spire]

I use that rn but the resolution is low

Maybe thats a good thing i want it to feel kinda old

[red spire]

Holy shit thats so cool

[onyx scroll]

do you have high resolution rendering turned on in the Crispiness Menu?

[red spire]

Ill check rq

[onyx scroll]

if you do, then Crispy clearly still has a too low resolution for you

in that case use Woof or DSDA-Doom (I personally prefer Woof)

[red spire]

Im working on a doom game based around rifts in space time i think its gonna be cool

[onyx scroll]

W

[red spire]

Cruicible in og doom will go crazy

[red spire]

Are those custom textures?

[stable sun]

these are from comunity chest 4 pack , if i remembered it correctly

[normal arrow]

are no news links allowed or something?

[red spire]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-gif-9541066

[normal arrow]

What the heck is with the bot

[supple violet]

Anyone experiencing moddb errors?

[elfin bluff]

anyone know what causes the all screens to suddenly go black when in gzdoom fullscreen. it was working before but then it just suddenly started doing this and i can tfigure out why

[strong shell]

what exactly does Weapon.SlotNumber do in decorate/zscript files?

sorry not SlotNumber, SelectionOrder

[supple violet]

No?

[idle kite]

Patience

[supple violet]

Is it down or not?

[strong shell]

works for me

[supple violet]

I cant download anything in moddb it just says " returning unknown server error"

[hearty pagoda]

i tried ashes 2063 and it is super good

west coast fallout and mad max mixed with gzdoom

[stable sun]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/148335-electron-soup-short-single-scifi-d2-map-rc2-boom-compatible/ updated , more resources, hmp diff, design fixes etc.. if anyone is interested

[keen valley]

How would I pull off the floor raise and texture change in Ultimate Doom Builder? (UDMF format)

[hearty pagoda]

nice blood pfp

[supple violet]

I cant download mods anymore and idk why

WHAT DO I DOOO

[wild kraken]

wait for cloudflares stupid servers to come back online

or stop using edge

[supple violet]

Im not on edge

Im on firefox

[wild kraken]

oh

maybe try a chromium browser

most sites are broken on non chromium browsers, so something like arc, chrome, or opera will work wonders

[supple violet]

On opera now...same thing

[keen valley]

do you have a VPN on or something???

[supple violet]

No

Same with chrome

What the fuck?

[onyx scroll]

@supple violet all you can really do now is wait ig
check your time/date as well, that could be the issue

if it's not the issue, I'd say wait and get your WADs from the Doomworld idgames Archive Frontend

though you won't be finding stuff like Brutal Doom on there more than likely

usually Limit Removing, Boom, and MBF/21 maps get uploaded there

[river kiln]

seriously how should i fix this shit???

[stable sun]

sorry but i don't know meaning of blood pfp 😄

[haughty flower]

The cover of the game Blood has a bloody handprint, like your pfp

[stable sun]

lol ok, so pfp is profile picture

[red spire]

Very fatal

[river kiln]

ik
yet idk tf is wrong with my LiD mod

[kind sentinel]

can someone plz give me a link to original doom footstep tracker mod? i need it but i cant find it

[hearty pagoda]

this is what it looks like

[stable sun]

I know And love blood, i just didn't know what pfp is

[storm charm]

robocop mod

[proper bear]

anyone has an up-to-date smooth doom recent version download link?

[keen valley]

I can't tell if I'm doing something wrong, whenever you have phase lighting, I thought that there was a way to make it only go down to a certain level of darkness instead of going all the way down

[storm charm]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/robocop-vs-terminator-deathmatch/downloads/robocop-vs-terminator-deathmatch-cop-co-op-v20-final

update

[kind sentinel]

https://github.com/jekyllgrim/ZSLoRWeapons?tab=readme-ov-file#how-to-play

how do i do this?

i want the new doom weapons but i dont know how to active this mod with gdl launcher

[kind sentinel]

so i put the zslorweapons.zip in the zdl and id24res(which i literally did) but how can i summon the weapons that i put?

[mystic ibex]

Is there a way to run pk3 files on the prboom port?

Trying to run doom mods on my iPhone, but I can’t get them loaded on retroarch

[lusty dove]

no for multiple reasons

1. prboom+ does not support the pk3 file format

2. any mods that are pk3s are almost definitely designed specifically for zdoom/gzdoom since that is the only thing able to load that file format, and therefore it is using a ton of gzdoom specific features that wont work in anything else

gzdoom is practically its own separate game engine at this point because it has so many extra features stacked on top of it

mods made for gzdoom are not even really doom mods, they dont work in any other versions of doom itself, only in the heavily modified gzdoom

[mystic ibex]

Then is there a way to get gzdoom running on retro arch?

I guess not, since there is no lib retro core

[lusty dove]

there is a mobile port of gzdoom tho

its in an app called delta touch, but its not free'

[median garnet]

I guess I ask this here

Is this seriously doom 2?

[onyx scroll]

It is. It’s just because GZDoom changes so much it’s barely if at all IDTech1 anymore. It’s pretty much a game engine that can run Doom as well.

[median garnet]

Cool

[onyx scroll]

Assuming the picture is Total Chaos, by the way.

[median garnet]

It is

[mystic ibex]

I have iOS

[onyx scroll]

There’s another GZDoom port to iPhones.. but it’s not free

Called GenZD

[lusty dove]

oh is delta touch only android?

[onyx scroll]

Yeah, it’s only on Android

[onyx scroll]

that's it

[mystic ibex]

$2 not that bad, though I might wait a bit before buying it

I also found out idos is back

[sturdy zephyr]

Anyone got any good maps for brutal doom

[supple violet]

Been getting this error for the last month

Cba anymore

I give up

Idk why im even mentioning this..noones gonna help anyway

[dreamy torrent]

You are correct no one is gonna help you neither am i but atleast you tried

[runic fjord]

yeah

[runic fjord]

can you pirate Apple Store games

I’m not BUYING anything

[fleet trellis]

@Mr Doggo

doggo?

[onyx scroll]

He was banned off the server.

[fleet trellis]

why?

[proud bough]

Okay, can someone help me out here. Everytime I load up a wad I've been working on for MONTHS, it just says it's invalid. idk why or how.

[royal wave]

you'll need to provide much more details than this for anyone to help out

[proud bough]

Basically, the file just stopped working, every time I open it up in Doom Builder or Slade it says the file type is invalid.

[royal wave]

UDB or Doom Builder?

[proud bough]

UDB, my apologeese.

[royal wave]

I would recommend restoring a backup. UDB now automatically makes backups of your maps

[proud bough]

Oh, thank god.

Thanks.

[royal wave]

Navigate to where you have you map saved and you'll see .backup1 .backup2 or something like that

[proud bough]

I found it.

[storm charm]

robo cop

[idle kite]

I just watched that movie for the first time

[idle kite]

Also the crosshairs should probably be a green cross, like in the movie

[storm charm]

uh, i might've over done it with the final encounter

[idle kite]

Why is it just revenants

Use custom enemies

[idle kite]

Also I love how you cut off the bits of the OCP tower that were matte painting, leaving behind only the real life building that it was based on

[shut crane]

Guys I really wanna reach the level of detail of some wads like Sunlust or Speed Of Doom, any tip you can give me to make my levels prettier?

[cold heath]

can anyone help me? why does the "edit linedef" look different when i look at doom+doom2 wads, compared to the map im making myself? im confused lol. I just want to make a door and ive been stuck for like 30 minutes+ (map noobie here)

[lost quest]

Hello, I'm new to this discord server as I was directed here while searching for how to create a Doomworld account. I saw up this thread that someone had the same problem and was told to contact Mordeth, I wish to do so but I have no idea what their email is or how to access them.

I really want to share the maps I've been working on with a wider audience, as where I've been posting them (the zdoom forums) doesn't have as much traffic as Doomworld.

If you want to see the most recent map I've made (the Tomb of Frustration) here's the link to where I've uploaded it on that forum: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=79631

[lost quest]

Which program are you using? The one on the right looks like Ultimate Doom Builder, while the one on the left looks like Doom Builder 2.

[cold heath]

Both are ultimate doom builder
Edit: also thanks for the map, downloading it so i can play it in school :]

[onyx scroll]

left is standard/vanilla format, right is UDMF

UDMF gives a lot more control over things, but can't be played out of GZDoom pretty much

[cold heath]

Thank you so much, ill try to switch the format next time.

[onyx scroll]

it depends what you're doing

if your map is intended for GZDoom, just use UDMF

[cold heath]

i used the standard one just now, i can now make doors work lol, thanks for the help

[lost quest]

Huh, I guess it's a graphical thing. No idea what's wrong, I'm not a coding guy, I can barely get booleans in ACS to work half the time.

Also, thanks for checking out my map! Feel free to give feedback here, on the Zdoom forum, or maybe we could make a private Discord chat to not annoy the other people with notifications.

[onyx scroll]

I should mention ACS is deprecated and ZScript has replaced it

[lost quest]

Oh... then how is my code working?

[onyx scroll]

Excuse me, I meant Decorate was deprecated.

But anyways, unless support for it was straight up removed, it’ll still work, hence deprecated

[lost quest]

Ah, yeah, I am not nearly talented enough to make my own actors. I'm just using commands like Floor_MoveToNearest, TeleportThing, ActivateThing, NoiseAlert and such stacked in scripts so one trigger can do multiple things.

Oh, and ChangeSky and ChangeMusic to set custom skyboxes and dynamic music tracks too.

[onyx scroll]

You’ll get there, don’t worry

[lost quest]

So, what's the difference between ACS and Zscript? As far as I'm aware ACS is for in-level effects like manipulating sectors and actors, while Zscript is used for things like defining actors, weapons, and such in the .wad itself.

[onyx scroll]

That’s something I can’t personally answer. I rarely make mods/maps for these games and never anything for ZDoom ports.

Primarily because I hate anything ZDoom based

[lost quest]

Why? Sorry, but I just got into Doom modding a few months ago so I'm not really up to speed on the differences between source ports.

I know it has bad graphics and jump/crouch/freelooking as default but those are really easy to fix.

[cold heath]

i just launched the game and there are some things i wanna point out, there is this guy over here (is that on purpose? he doesnt do anything, and the imps were trying to kill him lol but he is immortal) and the button next to him shows this.

so far, i like the map. Also what is that meowing sound? its creeping me out. I like the ambush inside though.

i ran it in ZDL doom 2, source port is gzdoom. Anyways ill finish this, i like it alot!

[onyx scroll]

ZDoom physics are completely different, making it very easy to over/undershoot. The hardware renderers just kinda suck. It takes over 20 minutes to an hour just to get it sensible. Some settings (at least in GZ) are not even in the settings menu and have to be edited in the console. Settings sometimes just don’t save for some reason.

Oh yeah, you may be able to turn off crouching, freelook, and jumping and may be able to use a software renderer, but the thing is pretty much every mod/map made for GZ requires those 3 things and you can’t really use freelook without a hardware renderer.

[lost quest]

And I left the debug voodoozombie in and broke the fog tester... great. I'll fix that tomorrow.

And what meowing sound? Did a lost soul get stuck in the wall somewhere?

[lost quest]

Ah, I see. I just got ZDoom because I looked up "How to play doom" and it was the first result.

Question: are any of the maps I made using it playable with other ports, and if I use other ports will I have the same modding features? Because I've grown very used to ACS and particularly the extensive documentation of all the features on the ZDoom wiki that make learning it really easy.

[onyx scroll]

ZDoom-based ports are pretty much the only ports that’ll give you those modding capabilities. I’d say just stick with the port you’re using if you like it.

I ain’t shaming you for using it, I just personally don’t like it.

[cold heath]

ima just assume its a normal sound from doom i am not too familiar with because i usually use the doom metal mod. also this is pretty cool. How long did it take you to finish this map?

[lost quest]

Ah, I see. Well, I like being really tricky with my maps, so I say I'm probably gonna stick with it. Honestly, the reason I latched on to Doom so fast is because I really like game design but don't have the constitution for coding my own game. So seeing this "beginner friendly" way of being able to make levels and cool experiences without needing to make all the backdoor myself was a godsend.

[lost quest]

Yeah, it's probably the default searching sound like half the enemies use you're hearing.

And the map took me about a week, I started working on it last Thursday and uploaded it this morning.

That arena is my favorite room in the map. It's a confusing fight between you and a horde of teleporting enemies, set in the atrium of an Egyptian tomb (I didn't actually use the Egyptian textures because I don't really like them). Plus it doubles as a hub room and [spoiler].

Oh, and @cold heath, if you want to play the actual first map I made you can find it in the attached link. It took twice as long to build and isn't as good, but it's there if you want to see it.

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=79460

[cold heath]

that was ridiculously fun, the transitions were also crazy, i was always on the edge of my seat. you inspired me alot, ill definitely check out your first map to see how far you've come. thanks for sharing!

[lost quest]

Aww, thank you! The cool portals were actually a happy accident. I kept getting graphical bugs going through them, so I made them super dark and put a bunch of stuff in your vision so you can't see them when they happen. I think they look really sweet.

Also, did you check out both paths? The level is balance so you can either go through the portal or the caves in the flooded room and be able to beat it without needing to backtrack.

PS: How hard was the portal maze to get the blue key? One of my friends says I should add a secret solution to it somewhere, but I think that would cheapen it a little.

[cold heath]

I got through both of the areas, also the portal maze took some time, i literally had to memorize it but, i think its alright, it didn't get dragged on too long. Also highkey freaked out when i saw myself on that corridor thing with the stairs to the mancubus. I did feel pretty starved at the start to be honest, i had to punch down pinkies alot because i kept running out of ammo, but i managed

[lost quest]

It's a lot easier if you go through the maze with the map open, as the route is very easy to remember: up-up-down-down-left-right-left-right.

I'm glad you love the corridor, it's one of my favorite pieces just due to how deceptively simple it is (the whole thing is just two portal linedeffs).

As for ammo, have you tried searching the whole hedge maze at the start? There's a box of shotgun shells and a chaingun for you if you do.

[cold heath]

Oh my god i didnt get the chaingun, that would have been useful. But i did get the shells, im pretty bruteforceful when playing, and very tunnel visioned so it would make sense for me to miss some things. Also i did make use of the map to have a sneak peak on my progress

[lost quest]

Hah, yeah, I guess I forget that some people don't obsessively search every nook and cranny of a map. I should probably put multiple weapon placements in my next map so people who miss one can still get the weapon.

As for the automap, it is basically your truesight on this map. I tried to cover it up as much as I could, but you're just gonna be able to see things coming with it. It can also let you cheat the maze if you go through your first time because looking through a portal updates your map with the room on the other side, so you can carefully look down each portal to see which one reveals a new room.

[cold heath]

Yeah i know right, some wads do just completed remove the map altogether, like myhouse.wad. really hides everything lol

[lost quest]

Heh, I've actually looked at myhouse in Ultimate Doom Builder. It's actually stupidly simple how everything works, what I did in that infinite hallway is about as technical as the actual teleports go. There's also a bunch of code to set the right line teleports based on picked up items and such, but the actual implementation is basically just brute force.

I feel like hiding the map would be rude. Sure it gives them information, but they had to be clever enough to think of that solution in the first place. That's the kind of thing someone would do when trying to beat the actual Tomb of Horrors (like hiring a dwarves mining team to dig through the walls, or taking all the easy to reach adamantine doors because they're worth more than the actual loot in the tomb).

Okay, I'm gonna go to bed now because it's late. Good night! I'll update the map in the morning.

[fierce yoke]

Technically a Quake mod, but close enough
This is pretty rad as hell
https://youtu.be/tVOYmYUWkmE

[brave hemlock]

this is quake in doom not doom in quake

well i guess its both and neither at the same time

[lost quest]

Okay, I've updated the Tomb of Frustration based on your feedback @cold heath. You can find the new download here, the same place as the old one: https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?p=1255500#p1255500

[sudden mason]

if you do want to hide the map like myhouse it just sets everything to black and deletes all the lines

[sudden mason]

nah zdoom wonted work with any non zdoom but most generic ones work with zdoom

[lost quest]

Huh, cool idea. I think I might do that on my next map. I'm building a Haunted Mansion style "fun"house. I do plan on doing a lot of screwy stuff with changing halways so that might make the transitions more seamless.

[sudden mason]

there is probably other ways like preventing the automap with a script or mapinfo but thats the most simple
you can also use mapinfo to disable freelook, jumping and crouching

[lost quest]

I would, but I can't seem to figure out how to make a MAPINFO file in SLADE that works. Then again, I was trying to add lightning efects and that's a Hexen thing, so it might just not have had the data for it.

[sudden mason]

first things first are you using UDMF or not because if youre using the doom 1, 2 or hexen versions of your zdoom port instead of udmf it wont work

[lost quest]

Yes, I am using UDMF.

[royal wave]

MAPINFO is just a namespace. Make a text file, name it MAPINFO.txt, tada

Most special formats in expanded source ports are just textfiles

[whole blade]

different map formats. left looks like boom, right is gzdoom udmf

[whole blade]

i'm a doomworld moderator send me a dm

[old turtle]

I'm making a map with conveyor belts and I've got a few questions.
first: The westward moving sectors do not move the texture while all others do, why is that?
Second: The westward moving sector is faster than the other moving sectors, is there a way to fix this besides just using a slower speed?

[sudden mason]

for second id recommend just using manual speed values and if that doesnt just tinker about
for first id check that they all have the scrolling tag

[lost quest]

I know that much, I've fiddled around with SOUNDINFO files to change the music in a level, but I'm not sure how to set MAPINFO. On the wiki it says there is an old and new format, but it doesn't really explain either and just lists a bunch of variables without an explanation for what syntax to use to define them.

[royal wave]

What specifically do you need in the mapinfo?

Defining a map, skill, episodes?

[patent gull]

How do you guys roughly estimate the length of a level for a player if it takes you, the creator (for example) 5 minutes to complete?

[lost quest]

Preferably to stop people from crouching or jumping, freelook is okay though as it's really a personal preference thing. I would also like to enable lightning so I can have cool lightning flashes in the windows.

[royal wave]

So in your mapinfo, you want to have a block like this for each map :

MAP## "My Cool MapName"
{
  NoCrouch
  NoJump
  Lightning
}```

Where it says MAP## you want to replace ## with the mapslot that your maps are occupying

So if your map is either MAP01.wad in the maps folder, or has a MAP01 marker, you'll put MAP01 in place of MAP##

[lost quest]

Oh, cool! And I need to put the name of the map in "My Cool MapName"? So for my most recent map I would write "Manor of Mystery." And yes, it is MAP01.

[royal wave]

Yes exactly

More stuff can be found here: https://zdoom.org/wiki/MAPINFO/Map_definition

[lost quest]

Where would I put it in SLADE? After ENDMAP I assume? Before or after textures?

[royal wave]

Top of the wad as you can get

[lost quest]

Ah, okay.

[royal wave]

I do recommend switching to a PK3 format instead if you're using UDMF, unless you're not targetting GZDoom

[lost quest]

How do I do that? I've already started building it as a .wad so do I have to restart?

[royal wave]

No restart necesary, but you will need to reorganize your assets

the PK3 format is nothing more than a fancy zip

But it makes it much easier for you to organize everything

[lost quest]

Huh, and how do I do that? I would like to do it now so I need to change as little as possible.

Also I just created the MAPINFO. Does this look right?

MAP01 "Manor of Mystery"
{
NoCrouch
NoJump
Lightning
}

[royal wave]

that looks correct

[lost quest]

Cool!

So how do I change it to a pk3?

[royal wave]

First, you're going to want to make a new folder to store it in. Slade lets you edit folders like they're a wad.

[lost quest]

So do I make a new archive?

[royal wave]

Not in slade. a literal new folder in your computer

[lost quest]

Oh, okay!

I'll do that. What should I name it?

[royal wave]

Whatever you want

[lost quest]

Okay, I made the file.

[royal wave]

Then it's a matter of organizing your assets into the correct folders. Here's a screenshot of my current project so you can get an idea of what I mean

See how the maps are in the MAPS folder?

[lost quest]

Oh... I see. Is there a list with the specific order I need.

[royal wave]

That's the best part, there is no order

as long as the names are correct, it doesn't matter where the files are

[lost quest]

Oh cool! Well, right now I just have the base map data, so where would I put it? I'll send you a photo of my SLADE.

[royal wave]

You'll want to save your map into the maps folder

See how I have MAP01.wad in mine?

[lost quest]

Yes. Here's my SLADE:

[royal wave]

I assume you're using Ultimate Doom Builder to make your map?

[lost quest]

Yes. UDMF format, working off GZdoom g4.11 (I know there's a new version out but I can't figure out how to transfer saves and I still haven't fully beaten Doom 2).

[royal wave]

Like I said, save that map from UDB into the maps folder

In the folder I told you to make, create a MAPS folder

[lost quest]

So should I just drag it over from where I keep my UDB maps?

[royal wave]

That can work too

[lost quest]

Wait, won't this cause the UDB backup saves to also save to that folder?

[royal wave]

Yes

We'll get to that

[lost quest]

Okay, now what?

[royal wave]

Now we're going to point slade to this folder. On the top left, you see the two folder icons? You want to click the one that looks like the outline of a folder

[lost quest]

Open shortcut?

[royal wave]

Open Directory

[lost quest]

Or open directory?

Oh, ninja'd.

Okay, I opened the new folder in SLADE.

[royal wave]

Let me see what it looks like

[royal wave]

and in the maps folder is your map?

[royal wave]

rename it to MAP01.wad

[lost quest]

done

[royal wave]

Cool! Be sure to save the project. Slade won't forward changes to GZDoom unless you save

after that, hit the play button and start up your map

[lost quest]

Yep, I saved. Now what?

Wait, from SLADE?

[royal wave]

Yes! There's a play button

you can still use UDB as well, don't worry

[lost quest]

Give me a second to link it to GZDoom.

[royal wave]

We're just making sure everything is working before the next step

[lost quest]

Problem, it said "Could not find MAP01". I couldn't take a screenshot because when it tried it closed GZDoom.

[royal wave]

Did the window that popped up look like this?

[lost quest]

Yes.

Here.

[royal wave]

uncheck manor of mystery

[lost quest]

Done.

[royal wave]

Slade will include all opened sources as launch options, my guess is the MAPINFO in the .wad is causing conflicts. Try launching it now

[lost quest]

Same problem, "Could not find MAP01".

[royal wave]

Can you double click on the MAP01.wad?

send screenshot

[royal wave]

okay yeah. We'll need to take out the MAPINFO and D_RUNNIN from it. Part of this change is GZDoom really hates it when map wads have extra files in them

[lost quest]

Ah, where do I put them?

[royal wave]

the root of the folder

[lost quest]

The D_RUNNIN is actually "Waiting for Romero to Play".

Also, where is the root of the folder?

[royal wave]

In my shots, you see how I have a bunch of text files that aren't in a folder? That's the "root" location

D_RUNNIN can actually go in the MUSIC folder

[lost quest]

Okay, I'll make those folders now in SLADE.

Okay, D_RUNNIN is now in MUSIC, where do I put MAPINFO?

Just in the main folder?

[royal wave]

the root

yes, main folder

be sure to save after these changes

[lost quest]

So the main folder is called the root, got it. That was confusing me.

[royal wave]

almost done if this fixes it

try launching now

[lost quest]

How does this look?

[royal wave]

exactly as it should

[lost quest]

Okay, testing!

And another problem.

[royal wave]

OH yeah, okay, that's actually good, means we're progressing

[lost quest]

Yay, progress!

[royal wave]

it needs to be map MAP## "map name"

[lost quest]

Now it's

map MAP01 "Manor of Mystery"
{
NoCrouch
NoJump
Lightning
}

[royal wave]

so add the word map before MAP01

[lost quest]

How do you put words in little boxes?

[royal wave]

by doing ``this`` you will get this

[lost quest]

''this''

[royal wave]

and by doing ```this``` you'll get this

[lost quest]

this

[royal wave]

there you go

[lost quest]

Okay, let's get back on track. I'll test it again.

Well, it works but everything is covered in missing textures. How do I import my textures?

I'm using two sources, GOTHICTX and cfmanson.

[royal wave]

Easy fix

[lost quest]

Oh, and a resource pack that gives Doom 1 textures in Doom 2 because I like them.

[royal wave]

place those two wads at the root

Generally, wads in wads (aside from the maps) is a bad practice. For resources like this, not a big deal, but do not rely on that for everything you borrow

[lost quest]

Okay they're all there.

[royal wave]

each .wad you'll be adding to your PK3 will slow down load time, so keep that in mind

[lost quest]

Understood. Those are just resource files, though they do have a lot of duplicate Doom 2 textures. But the last time I tried getting rid of those I accidentally made LAV2 just disapear until I rolled back, so I'm not trying that again.

Though some GOTHICTX textures have the same name as base textures, so they keep getting overwritten whenever I try to use them.

They're animated candles using the lava textures.

[royal wave]

So last step, we need to tell UDB that you're using a folder now

[lost quest]

Okay, how we do that?

[royal wave]

open up your map in UDB

Edit -> Map Options

[lost quest]

Should I close it in SLADE first?

[royal wave]

Yes

[lost quest]

Wait, so how do I open it? I'm on this screen.

The top one a twelve year old brother of a friend made when I was showing him UDB.

[royal wave]

You'll be opening MAP01.wad in the MAPS folder

[lost quest]

Okay!

Do I keep the editing resources as is?

Because now everything is a missing texture.

[royal wave]

You mean the map options window that pops up?

[lost quest]

Yes.

[royal wave]

We'll be working from there actually

[royal wave]

Edit -> Map Options

[lost quest]

Oops, I'll close and reopen it.

Wait, nevermind, I think I'm where I need to be. I'll find what you're asking me to search for.

Map options open, now what?

[royal wave]

Send screenshot

[royal wave]

there's.... a bit to fix there, but we'll ignore that. Are those custom texture assets in that list?

[lost quest]

Yes. And I assume it's the GZDooom pk3 files?

[royal wave]

the only pk3 you need there is gzdoom.pk3, but those others aren't going to hurt it

remove the .wads for those assets. click on them, then hit remove

[lost quest]

Yeah, I just have those there to test the dynamic lighting to make sure nothing is clipping through walls. Is there a way to force dynamic lighting in the MAPINFO file so I don't have to construct maps for play both with and without it?

We'll discuss that after we fix this problem though.

[royal wave]

I see. Don't worry about it then if you actually need them for that

for now, remove the asset wads

[lost quest]

I can't, everything is greyed out and won't let me remove them.

[royal wave]

ah, you've got them loaded elsewhere

okay, easy fix. Exit out of that

navigate to tools -> Game Configuration

[lost quest]

Exit out of what? Only Discord, Chrome, UDB, and file explorer are open.

[royal wave]

Map Options

[lost quest]

Oh, okay, I found it.

Just remove all the .wads?

[royal wave]

So here is where you define the assets you want loaded for every project

You want to keep things in here like GZDOOM.pk3 and DOOM2.wad, but not for things like custom assets

[lost quest]

Ah, I see. So I should remove those now?

I removed them.

[royal wave]

yes. At the minimum, you want to leave in GZDOOM.pk3 and DOOM2.wad

Here's mine for example. Every time I want to make a Doom 2 UDMF map, it auto-includes those two

[lost quest]

Okay, here's what I have.

[royal wave]

perfect

[lost quest]

Nice!

[royal wave]

Now navigate back to map options

Map options is where you'll define what assets you need loaded per map.

[lost quest]

Now what, everything is still greyed out.

[royal wave]

that's exactly what it's supposed to be

[lost quest]

But I'm still missing all the textures in the map.

[royal wave]

almost there

Add Resource -> From Directory -> Point it to your root/main folder -> OK

[lost quest]

Done.

[royal wave]

Should reload now and place in the missing textures

[lost quest]

They're there now! It looks like a palatial southern estate again!

[royal wave]

awesome!

So now you have your project in the modern format. Adding in stuff now just involves placing it in the right folder

textures, sounds, sprites, etc. etc.

[lost quest]

Cool. So I can set up a SNDINFO folder and such to get custom sound efects, like evil laugher, "Groovy", and such?

[royal wave]

SOUNDS folder and SNDINFO lump

but yes!

[lost quest]

Got it!

[royal wave]

now to distribute your project, you navigate into your main folder, and put everything in a .zip

[lost quest]

I think that's why my prior attempts at adding sound effects didn't work.

[royal wave]

then rename the .zip into .pk3

[lost quest]

So I'm assuming things like winzip don't try to actually unzip it?

[royal wave]

More so people don't unzip it think you are supposed to open it up

Most people expect a .wad, but if they see a .zip, they think to open it up and suddenly there's a vomit of files in their computer

[lost quest]

Cool. So I guess I'm ready to just start building now.

[royal wave]

yup!

[lost quest]

Thanks for all you help, really! If I ever have any more problems I'll make sure to talk to you!

[royal wave]

try sending me a pk3 so we can see if that made sense to you

be sure to delete anything it doesn't need. The way I do it, I'll copy the files to somewhere else, and just delete stuff

[royal wave]

also mind you, I'm a ZScripter. While I have general knowledge of the engine, my expertise is in programming for GZDoom. I won't be able to answer everything

[lost quest]

That's alright, I only work with GZDoom anyway, both because it's user friendly and because it lets me do MyHouse style nonsense that I find really cool.

And here's the file I finished. I assumed I renamed it wrong because it has two endings.

[royal wave]

You zipped it one folder too high

[lost quest]

Ah, I see. I'll try again.

How's this?

[royal wave]

aside from the renaming, that's it!

[lost quest]

And how do I rename it correctly?

[royal wave]

I assume you have file extensions turned off

[lost quest]

Yes... how do I turn them back on?

[royal wave]

in windows explorer, the file browser, View -> File name extensions

[lost quest]

Fixed.

[royal wave]

👍

Don't be afraid to ping me if you need help, but keep in mind I'm not going to hold your hand for everything. A better place you can get help from aside from me is the ZDoom discord

[lost quest]

Oh yeah, I know. But thanks for all the help anyways! I think I've got it from here.

[royal wave]

What sort of "MyHouse" experience are you hoping to make, if you don't mind sharing

[lost quest]

A map inspired by the Haunted Mansion from Disneyland, and the ghostworld library level of the Ghostbusters Video Game (the one with the original cast). So things like infinite hallways, changing rooms, hidden teleports, geometry shenanigans, stuff like that. Less MyHouse, more Evil Dead meets Ghostbusters (I think they actually have in a comic book).

[royal wave]

Oh man another Ghostbusters player, never thought anyone else played that

That sounds pretty rad!

[lost quest]

Yeah man, that game was so fun, I played it two or three times a year as a kid. It was the best. I love how just in the world it feels, like you're actually there. And reading the spirit guide descriptions of all the ghots and curios was so cool. Sure, it was a little stupid at times (they never really explained how the Staypuff Marshmallow Man was back) but overall it was really really awesome. My favourite levels are the library, Shandor's island, and the museum.

[royal wave]

I replayed it when the remaster came out and had to quit at the end of the library. That boss is stupidly unfair at the hardest difficulty

[lost quest]

Yeah.

Huh, I just tried to play the level and the music isn't working. I'm not hearing Waiting for Romero to Play play.

[royal wave]

music = "D_RUNNIN" in your mapinfo

[lost quest]

Ah, fixed.

[royal wave]

also if it's waiting for romero to play, you don't need to include it in your music folder

[lost quest]

Also the lightning isn't working.

[royal wave]

if you replace D_RUNNIN with the original file name, it'll work like that

[lost quest]

Wait, the light level is 255, I need to lower it so that it can actually increase with the lightning strikes.

To D_ROMERO?

[royal wave]

Lightning also only affects sectors with sky textures. For actual flashes into the building, you'll need to get more technical

[lost quest]

Inside lightning?

[royal wave]

That's not as straight forward as it seems. Lightning carries over from Hexen, which those maps have a lot of map geometry exposed to sky

It will only illuminate sectors with sky above it, but no glowing effects or illuminating adjacent rooms

[lost quest]

Ah, right... well, maybe I could set up code in ACS to have certian sectors flash with lightning after a random delay?

[royal wave]

You could, not difficult

[lost quest]

I don't need dynamic lighting, just having the windows and a sector behind them into the hallway flash like in a movie would work.

[royal wave]

whatever approach works easiest for you

Looks fine enough

'scuse me vega?

[lost quest]

What just happened?

[royal wave]

Our bot thought you spammed

[lost quest]

Okay... Anyway, this is what I made before I was so rudely interrupted:

Script "lightning" OPEN
{
Delay (Random (175, 700));

Light_RaiseByValue (8, 50);

Delay (5);

Light_LowerByValue (8, 50);

Restart;

}

[royal wave]

also you can use ```triple ticks``` to get nice code likes like this:

Script "lightning" OPEN
{
    Delay (Random (175, 700));
    Light_RaiseByValue (8, 50);
    Delay (5);
    Light_LowerByValue (8, 50);
              Restart;
}```

[lost quest]

Oh, cool!

[royal wave]

code looks fine to me

[lost quest]

Nice! I would set up some kind of thunder sound effect that triggers with it, but I realize that I would need to set up some kind of check for nearness to the sector, or set up a ton of map spots or something, so I'm not gonna do that. Probably because it would also get annoying.

It was fun talking to you. I'll make sure to send you the map once I've got a beta build working.

[lost quest]

Okay, one final thing. I want to replace the secret sound with this audio of Ash Williams saying "Groovy". How would I go about that, since the secret sound is a port-exclusive thing I can't just change the name of some audio files.

I found something that recommended I replace DSSECRET with something else in the SNDINFO file.

[spring nexus]

how do we make sprites? are they instantly pixalated in game?

[warm zenith]

Pixel art

[idle kite]

You could digitize clay models like they did in the original

[keen valley]

Oh this is going to make mapping very cool, tedious, but in the end it'll be cool (this is just a test map)

But I do have a question that comes with this, there's a delay every time I go into a new sector with the different music, is there a way to get rid of that delay?

[crimson crescent]

Does anyone know a dead enemy marker script for Doom Buldier? I want to make a counter of how many enemies you killed.

[keen valley]

Like, on your HUD?

[keen valley]

^

[crimson crescent]

Yes

[keen valley]

Is that not an option that you can see if you expand your screen above where like the facial hot bar is???

[crimson crescent]

something like that, what I want to do is put at the top or to the side, a marker of dead or annihilated enemies

[keen valley]

Ahhh, okay, you want your own dedicated spot for it, okay I get what you're saying, sadly nope sorry boss, no idea how to do that I'm still new it adding things in

[crimson crescent]

Don't worry, I'm also new to this type of thing, I still haven't learned how to use scripts well.

[keen valley]

I remember I tried making a script so that whenever you killed all the monsters In a certain area a door would open, it did something, but the script didn't execute so I just ended up scrapping that idea and putting a button in the arena

The only thing I've learned how to do recently is like import textures and certain monsters and weapons

[crimson crescent]

The same thing happens to me, the truth is that the issue of scripts and how they work is complicated, unfortunately there is no guide regarding these things.

[keen valley]

What kind of script are you trying to use, that all depends

Because I'm pretty sure there is a major difference between say PR boom or some other source port V S ACS

[crimson crescent]

Well I'm trying to use hexen scripts

[onyx scroll]

late but I'd say maybe look and see if ZScript has what you're looking for? (Assuming you're making a map for GZDoom)

[crimson crescent]

Thanks, even though here in Argentina it is daytime and apart from that it is for the zdoom engine, so more people can try the mod without any errors or something

[onyx scroll]

well, pretty much only the only people that can actually play your map are most ZDoom-based ports and maybe DSDA-Doom (though I'm very unsure)

[crimson crescent]

I see, thanks anyway, maybe I'll port my mod to gzdoom and put some improvements on it, so other people can play this mod

[onyx scroll]

then it'd be stuck pretty much on GZDoom just an fyi

as pretty much only GZDoom has up-to-date ZScript and the few other ports that support ZScript somewhat are all ZDoom based

I'd say best bet is to look into what you can

because most ports nowadays have built-in kill counters

[broken acorn]

How to fix shitty performance with classic doom that was modded with project brutality

[broken acorn]

oh nevermind i fixed that

[shut crane]

Is there like a sprites pack of Doom 64 weapons? I wanna just replace weapons sprites with Doom64's ones for my wad

[idle kite]

That cover of Running From Evil sucks imo

[patent gull]

Hey, is it common practice to use mods and put it in your own pk3 (with credits), so that people don't have to manually download and activate them? Or is it better to not do that

[royal wave]

It’s used every now and then, but largely depends on the context

The important thing to keep in mind is that having wads in wads can impact performance, so if the stuff you’re including are some heavy hitting mods, it’d be best to provide them as separate downloads instead

[patent gull]

I've got two pretty simple ones in there (smooth weapons and damnums) and I plan on keeping it at that, so I think itll be fine. thanks for your answer!

[broken acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-ok-ok-dexter-dexter-morgan-dexter-gif-gif-3020408348535422047

[broken acorn]

thanks god that's not that KSI song

[cold heath]

hey i finally dled and played it, i feel the gameplay is much smoother now! also i think ive found the underground base you were talking about, i probably mis interpretated what you said last time, i love the flow of it, if you make more maps feel free to share! or ima just check your gzdoom (im not too familiar with that platform so i have to make an acc)

[runic quarry]

guys i made a standalone game for gzdoom in an iPk3 file (like iwad) and the whole game runs but whenever you try to save the game it says save failed and nothing else

the file in case anyone wants to try and help

i asked in zdoom forums to no response

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?style=12&t=79642

[runic quarry]

nvm i fixed it

[mortal ember]

an in progress map i just started on

[lost quest]

Hi, I just found a cool sky texture I want to use for my level but I can't seem to stop the game from overwriting it with the default sky textures.

Never mind, I just named it "Sky6" and changed the name of all the pointers. Now it works.

[haughty flower]

some sprites I've made

[haughty flower]

I'm using this for my doom mod

[livid flax]

Gud Lack 😄

[open plaza]

well i am now officially making my first doom mod ig

[open plaza]

OH SHIT THATS SOME DOME ASS UI, is this doom 1??

[broken acorn]

no, that's modded Doom 2

[open plaza]

STILL THO, IN OLD DOOM THIS IS AMAZING

[desert pulsar]

It looks okay

[open plaza]

a sneek peak of my first level in my new doom mod, Doom: THE STRONGHOLD

[onyx scroll]

The mod in question is Project Brutality, which requires GZDoom. GZDoom has changed so much of the original source code it’s not even Doom anymore, it’s a game engine that can run Doom.

[open plaza]

Hey uh guys? Remember myhouse.wad? Well after digging in the google drive I’ve found some new stuff… and some wierd things hidden at bottoms of texts files or whatever… also am I fucking tripping or does the date of creation say 1899

[onyx scroll]

Probably a corrupted file

[open plaza]

So you are saying every file in the zip

Even the map which functions fine

Damn myhouse.wad has so many secrets

[onyx scroll]

Well, the file properties specifically

Could’ve been purposely modified

[open plaza]

Maybe

[onyx scroll]

I never played my house so idk

[open plaza]

I think this specific date means something though

[onyx scroll]

I have no willingness to play it either

[open plaza]

I haven’t seen anyone point out the date are many things

So it must be new

[onyx scroll]

Maybe idk

[open plaza]

Yeah it’s a giant mind fuck

[onyx scroll]

Or something’s fucked up

[open plaza]

I just need to figure out what that date means

[onyx scroll]

> Requires GZDoom
Yeah, not playing it lol

[open plaza]

Or maybe it is just nothing

[open plaza]

lol ok

Hey what did u think about the layout sneak peek of the first level in my doom mod

[onyx scroll]

It looks fine

[open plaza]

Thx

[onyx scroll]

You making the level in Slade? You running older hardware or Linux?

[open plaza]

I’m actually using both spade and ultimate doom builder, I use udb for combining maps into one wad file and making doors and everything else is done in slade

[onyx scroll]

UDB is a much better tool for making maps in general

[open plaza]

Ig

[open plaza]

I actually have a dos pc but no, I use zdoom to test

Oh yeah, and I use a sprite and ms paint to edit sprites

[onyx scroll]

More than likely the level won’t run in DOS anyways unless the level also works in Chocolate Doom

W MS paint

[open plaza]

lol idk I was sleep deprived

I mainly use asprite

Anyway ima have some zzz’s

See ya!

[onyx scroll]

Cya

[lost quest]

I keep encountering this stupid SNDINFO error. Everything seems to be defined correctly, but UDB keeps saying "SNDINFO error in "Manor of Mystery\SNDINFO.txt", line 1. Mixing old and new sound assignment format is not permitted." This is my SNDINFO code:

Yes, I'm making an Evil Dead themed map.

[royal wave]

you don't need the = in sound info

sound/name "path/to/sound.mp3"

[short harbor]

Anyone have sprites of a shocktrooper holding a plasma rifle instead of the unused assault rifle?

[languid iron]

Hi

[open plaza]

hoi

hey guys, here is the doomworld page where i will be posting snapshots and sneekpeeks and takling about my new doom mod that im making (its also my first lol ig): https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/148658-sneak-peak-of-my-new-doom-mod-doom-the-stronghold/?tab=comments#comment-2857728

[mortal stream]

kinda sucks that so many people added MyHouse.Wad to the mods browser yet the kex engine can't run it at all. it is sad day

also is there a way to have gzDoom support Controllers? cause when i play games i have more fun using controller than playing on keyboard and mouse

[onyx scroll]

yeah, several ports have controller support now adays

and by the way, if you want a more vanilla style port that supports controllers, Woof works great for that

[mortal stream]

ah ok

thanks

[idle kite]

Or you could always emulate Doom PS1

[steel topaz]

what does floor alignment and ceiling alignment do?

[whole blade]

I'm assuming you mean in a map editor context. It allows you to pan and rotate the floor and ceiling textures to something other than the default 64 grid

Typically you need a udmf map format to allow this, although it can be done with ACS scripting as well (but it's very laborious)

[haughty flower]

hello man, just saying that you might need this...

I've managed to recreate "Ash's hero theme" from the part where he saws off the barrel of the db shotgun...

[lost quest]

Sweet, I'll have it play when you pick up the SSG.

[worn temple]

hi

[solemn harness]

hi guys

[bronze jewel]

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[steel topaz]

guys can someone tell me why gzdoom builder says that my custom wad has no maps in it even tho slade says it has?

[oblique pagoda]

Are the map lumps all in the right order in the wad file

[spark fossil]

first time mapmaking and of course i get trolled by this happening
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855626364853288970/1295879349165101107/image.png?ex=67104131&is=670eefb1&hm=c6925af91277516a7d02595a71a1cbf4a857ff3295d9448d3d84f9156ed3e474&

im hoping i can just use the KEX port of doom for playtesting maps and not having to rely on something else

[onyx scroll]

check to see if it runs under another sourceport like Woof

If it doesn't run under that try GZDoom. If it runs in GZ but not Woof, you have either UDMF or some other format that KEX and those other engines don't support

if you wish not to do this yourself you can DM me the WAD and I'll check it myself

[spark fossil]

alright

[subtle raptor]

does anyone have experience in writing MIDIs for DOOM maps via FL studio?

trying to get started for some friend's custom maps and having a few hiccups, mostly with instrumentation

[lusty dove]

yes

[oblique pagoda]

Do you guys know if it's possible to create a custom item in ZScript that when collected increases the player's max health by a set number each time. I tried creating it by using player.MaxHealth += 10 but it never increases the health value in the status bar beyond 200 and sometimes when I collect the item GZDoom crashes.

If this is the wrong place to ask this let me know but I'm stumped.

[onyx scroll]

Just so you know you do have the right place! I’d help but I know nothing about ZScript as I don’t use GZDoom for mapping. So sorry I can’t answer your question.

[empty frost]

Probably better to ask this on Doomworld, or the ZDoom forum

[shut crane]

How could I improve the layouts of a level? I mean, how do I make interesting layout etc. For a level

[tepid kayak]

make multiple ways in and out of a room, make views of the outside, give better weapons as the level goes on, make sure it can be done from pistol start, give strong weapons for strong enemies, make interesting secrets, strategically place berserk packs, make sure the player has enough ammo by placing zombie men and shotgun guys

include both cramped and wide areas, do not make square boring rooms

use slanted stuff and toxic water

[tepid kayak]

my masterpiece

[atomic drum]

I'm a bit late doing this, however I would like to share with you all a wad me and a fellow mapper Deathdrone have created. It's a sequel to Rebirth Of Damnation, which I have previously promoted. Further details about the wad can be found on Moddb.

https://www.moddb.com/mods/rebirth-of-damnation-part-ii

Rip and tear gamers.

[haughty flower]

For Zandronum, zdoom, lzdoom & gzdoom (the last version of source port)

https://www.moddb.com/mods/eternal-suffering-v10/downloads/eternal-suffering-v10

[haughty flower]

try using inventory.maxamount

[brave hemlock]

Sorry if I'm late but yea I have a bit

[subtle raptor]

oh hey

are you aware of any way to incoporate panning/reverb/pitch bend in midis that actually come out in the export?

iffy on reverb being possible

[brave hemlock]

midi doesn't really do effects no but you can kinda fake it

I've done reverb by layering short notes in quick secession and lowering their velocity according to how long you want them to fade

ideally in an ease-out manner

panning is built into midis pretty sure but you'll have to apply it to notes themselves

in piano roll in fl studio there's this velocity panel and on the top left corner of it there's a little arrow

when you click on it you can choose between velocity, pan and something else i dont remember

[subtle raptor]

i've tried note panning, is channel panning the functional one?

[brave hemlock]

but yea that should work in midi

[subtle raptor]

gotcha nice

any idea why the midi out channels have knobs for chorus & reverb etc?

[brave hemlock]

no I don't think so

[subtle raptor]

channel panning seemed to work oddly

[brave hemlock]

that's probably just for playback in fl studio

Doom just plays them all on default

[subtle raptor]

weird because it doesnt come throus in fruity lsd either

[brave hemlock]

I'm not rly familiar with actual Midi hardware

[subtle raptor]

gotcha, weird though because some doom songs def sound like they have reverb

[brave hemlock]

yea LSD overrides some settings

[brave hemlock]

that's just the default fluidsynth soundfont pretty sure, can't really do much about it other than using a different sf

[subtle raptor]

ahh gotcha
that's a neat trick for reverb, you can do delay in a similar way - but im wondering about slide notes. some doom tracks definitely sound like they use them but default FL slide notes dont seem to work even in player

[brave hemlock]

no it's just creatively placed notes