classic-doom-maps-mods

[onyx ice]

I mean we can pause for now

[onyx scroll]

You’ll probably need to make a ZIP archive (and how that’d be done on Linux is beyond me) and rename it to a .pk3 for the sources

Maybe GZDoom can load folders, I wouldn’t know

I rarely use the port to begin with

[onyx ice]

I guess I can try again tomorrow

[onyx scroll]

I suppose. I’ll come back if I got anything later

I’m more used to standard mod installs and well, not this

[onyx ice]

Yeah. Saw this as a video and thought it'd be fun to play portable

[haughty flower]

Thanks for the feedback! Also, I'm planning to add the frag grenade from Doom 3...
And Uzi's railgun from Murder Drones (Secret Weapon)

WIP:
Doomguy's new ability: Archvile Sorcery
I'm currently working on the sprites rn.

What if Doomguy has the archvile's ability to burn stuff?

[trail jolt]

Sweet, can't wait to see it.

[haughty flower]

Sure thing!

[onyx scroll]

@onyx ice I’m currently just kinda dead with this honestly. Run GZDoom in the terminal with the mod order you’ve been using and DM me the full output

[onyx ice]

I thought it was because I was missing the pk3 of the doomrpg things

[onyx scroll]

I don’t honestly know really

I’m guessing it’s that back I’d rather have a full output of what’s happening rather than just “oh this broke lolol”

[onyx ice]

Oh, well idk how to do stuff in terminal...

[onyx scroll]

All you need to do is type in gzdoom -file and follow -file with the exact path of each file you intend to load

[onyx ice]

Oh dear. That sounds a bit complicated

[onyx scroll]

It is

But blame GZDoom for not giving me anything to work with

I’ve made assumptions off of the very little information I’ve gotten

[onyx ice]

Ok, I can try, but what file am I suppose to run?

[onyx scroll]

All of the files you’ve been trying to run

Hell, even try the folders you’ve been using

And it must be in the same order as you’ve been doing them in ZDL as well

Separate each file/folder by a space and contain any path that had a space in it with double quotes

[onyx ice]

Oh, that sounds very difficult

[onyx scroll]

Well, that’s terminal work on any OS for you

For me it’s second nature as I work in terminals often. So pardon anything I say

[onyx ice]

Just for a test should I just try to run gzdoom in terminal first?

[onyx scroll]

Yeah

Afterwards run it with the -file parameter with what I had explained above

[onyx ice]

Ok, I tried just gzdoom in the konsole but nothing happened. Guess I did something wrong. I'm not good at understanding these types of things

[onyx scroll]

Where did you install GZDoom?

Like from what place

[onyx ice]

Well I got it from the discover store

[onyx scroll]

Great, now I have to figure out how the hell that works

[onyx ice]

I have a video on how it's setup

[onyx scroll]

KDE Discover?

[onyx ice]

Maybe?

Has like a bag icon

[onyx scroll]

Seems about right

[onyx ice]

Then yeah

[onyx scroll]

Need you to probably install GZ from the AUR if I can’t figure this out

And actually, can we move this over to DMs? We’re kinda clogging the chat

[onyx ice]

Sure thing

[thorny ether]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WztEEC8CrZg

[runic quarry]

Been working on a Doom TC for a while: Urban Mayhem: Syndicate Siege!

The story: In 2035, 4 people rob a bank in New Miami (a rebuilt version of Miami after a devastating earthquake), and give the money to the biggest mafia syndicate that volunteers to hold their money temporarily. However, 2 years later they still haven't seen a single dime from them. After being interrogated by the FBI they discover that they stole their money and put a bounty on their heads. The FBI offers a way to be absolved of all crimes: Go inside a building the mafia had rented from a company that went bankrupt and kill the boss, collecting all the evidence, money and more on their way! However, the building is stuffed full of goons and baddies, from various places and classes, that want nothing more than put a bullet between your eyes. To make matters worse, the New Miami Mafia Syndicate has recently hijacked a shipment of a dangerous mutagen with unknown effects on the human body apart from being able to be mind controlled. Get to shooting in 30 floors of stacking chaos!

Some screenshots here:

[hollow inlet]

why doesnt this teleport work ;w;

[sand rune]

https://twitter.com/ScrambledFaz/status/1786396250658447426

Faz (@ScrambledFaz) on X

You can now play Doom in Persona 5 Royal

Credit to KingJack and Xan1242 for modding this into the game

Twitter · May 3, 2024, 2:03 PM

[patent gull]

Hello everyone, does this look decent for an outside map? This is my second ever map that I'm making and I'd be lying if I said I knew what I was doing LOL

[patent gull]

It always baffles me when people can put so much detail in their levels, good shit man

[onyx scroll]

You probably made one of your linedefs impassable that’s right before the teleporter line?

[hollow inlet]

no

[onyx scroll]

Baffles me why you can’t go through the pathway, then

Wait, never mind, it’s GZDoom mumbo jumbo

Anyways, wait for me to get home and I’ll take a better look

So I’m not on this phone screen

Also, in the mean time send me over the WAD if you can

Easier for me to debug, honestly

Your videos (don’t take this as disrespect) don’t really include much useful information most of the time

[hollow inlet]

yea, understandable

[hollow inlet]

nmap02 is the one with the tele

also, do you know how to get rid of the "map01"? its just a copy of the nmap03 that i made when making some mistakes saving the thing

[onyx scroll]

You could delete it’s entries in Slade

But anyways, give me like 10 or so minutes

[hollow inlet]

these?

[onyx scroll]

Yeah

If I’m correct it should be everyone from MAP01 to ENDMAP

Make a backup of the file just in case I’m wrong here

[hollow inlet]

mm

[onyx scroll]

@hollow inlet what IWAD?

[hollow inlet]

nmap02, like i said -w-

[onyx scroll]

I said IWAD, not map

also, what Game Config did you use in UDB?

[hollow inlet]

oh im stupid

doom2, udmf

[onyx scroll]

loading doom2 made me have missing textures

[onyx scroll]

I figured out why

I needed ZDoom UDMF, not base Doom 2 UDMF

[hollow inlet]

ah.

[onyx scroll]

this sounds stupid but where the hell is the exit point for that portal?

found it, nevermind

[hollow inlet]

silly

if you ever ask yourself that question with other things, just highlight the linedef. itll show a pointer.

[onyx scroll]

it didn't for me

so I had to do a full on search for it in 3D view

only shows if a linedef affects a sector, which is annoying

[hollow inlet]

well it works for me so idk

[onyx scroll]

ok

you need more room behind the inital portal

though there is a visual bug when exiting the portal, trying to fixx that as well

[onyx scroll]

Ok

two things you'll need to do

• Make the entrance teleporter's length the exact same as the exit teleporter's (to fix the visual issue)
• Make the wall behind the teleporter longer (to fix the main issue)

if you need a reference (or just want to call it a day) I'll send the WAD over

also, one change I had made was to put a texture on the front side of the lift so you don't get a missing texture when looking through the portal

[hollow inlet]

i see

thank you

[onyx scroll]

actually, I did move the player so probably not

I did try to move the spawn back to where it was but it's probably not perfect

[hollow inlet]

nw lol

[hollow inlet]

also i can always just move the player spawn back
no need to send tho

[onyx scroll]

I'll send it over anyways, just as a reference idk

[hollow inlet]

oke

[patent gull]

Is there a way to make enemies not attack each other? UDB, GZDoom

[short dock]

Trying to make a demonic city

[onyx scroll]

I am uhh, I'm impressed

[sterile schooner]

this looks hella sick, great job

[vestal bear]

nicee!

[haughty flower]

Making a Doom Weapons mod...
I'm planning to make it compatible with CherubCorps's Angelic Aviary mod...
And KontraCommando's Fridaythe13th mod...
Lemme know what you guys think...

[haughty flower]

Yoooo...
This is epic af

[hollow inlet]

well shit works now

epic infight lol

[haughty flower]

What video recorder did you use for this?

[solar brook]

The NVIDIA thingy

ALT + Z
or
ALT + Y

[haughty flower]

How many GB does that take?

[solar brook]

depends on the resolution, framerate and bitrate

[haughty flower]

Does it also run on low-end computers?

[solar brook]

If you have a capable GPU?
i cant really tell you what the minimum requirement is, i have a 4090, so it better do be workin

[hollow inlet]

works on a 970 so..

[solar brook]

u need a dedicated NVIDIA GPU for it to work tho

[hollow inlet]

long as you have an nvidia gpu it should work

[solar brook]

there u go, thanks @hollow inlet

[hollow inlet]

[haughty flower]

Is it a pre-installed program or downloadable content?

[solar brook]

What GPU do you have?

Should be installed together with your nvidia driver

[haughty flower]

btw I'm working on a DooM mod right now...
And I'm working on the pistol's reload frames...

[haughty flower]

Um, I have an Intel HD Graphics...
At least that's what it says...

[solar brook]

We can stop talking then, no nvidia gpu, no geforce experience for you

Lowkey love that self effort

[hollow inlet]

trolle

[haughty flower]

Yeah I'm terrible at device stuff like that...
But I don't really need it.
I was just being curious on how the hell someone managed to post a 60-fps video, prolly cuz' he has Nitro or something.

[hollow inlet]

hole.

[hollow inlet]

15 sec clips at low quality are like, 20 mb tops.

[solar brook]

The DOOM Server has a default upload limit of 100mb for everyone, cause Partner Discord

[haughty flower]

Yeah ik.
I tried to post a preview of my Doom mod here...
Screw the upload limit tbh...

[haughty flower]

Oh ok...

[hollow inlet]

why are my songs always synced to the pistol

[haughty flower]

Perhaps it is just coincedence... or is it actually fate?

[hollow inlet]

well, no.
all of my songs have been 150 bpm
i should probably change that lol

well doom midis i dont only use 150 bpm lmao

[haughty flower]

New update(s) on my Doom mod:

1. New Weapon (Assault Rifle)
2. Pistol overhaul/Redux or whatever it is...

[haughty flower]

Yo...
Do you think that the reloading feature would be a bad idea for the DooM mod?

[hollow inlet]

no no reloading is a fine aspect

as long as you balance out the reload time with the clip size

[hollow inlet]

looks very nice btw

[haughty flower]

Hey thanks...

Btw do you have an account on Doomworld?

[hollow inlet]

just made one

well, would
sadly they dont seem to send the email.

[haughty flower]

Hey, if you have some time...
Can you please check out this cool forum I made on Doomworld?
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/144621-murder-drones-damnation-a-wip-doom-project/

[hollow inlet]

sure

once the email shit works i suppose

[trail jolt]

Just checked out the forum and it looks great! Especially the weapons concept art!

[hollow inlet]

how do i-

[haughty flower]

Thanks!

[hollow inlet]

outside of uac base i suppose

[hollow inlet]

why does it.. whaa..

why is it grayyy

[haughty flower]

because doom sprites need a pallete to have the right colors...
maybe you didn't copy-paste the pallete too?

[hollow inlet]

oh it doesnt do that-
yeah true theres a palette at the top...

thanks

[haughty flower]

Okay did it work?

[patent gull]

fellow 970 user 🤝

[hollow inlet]

[hollow inlet]

didnt try and cant until in like 6 hours lmao

but seems like it should work

[haughty flower]

Hey, I also noticed...
Maybe you should set the base resource to a doom wad like doom.wad or doom2.wad
You see that base resource option in the upper-right corner?
It says "<none>".
Maybe you should tinker with that part...
So that the software will always borrow assets from that wad...

[hollow inlet]

okay

[haughty flower]

Take a look at this screenshot for example:

Look at the part with the drop-down menu on the upper-right corner...

[hollow inlet]

yeh

[runic quarry]

Thanks!

Those are voxel models, some sort of 3d models used in some build engine games that are available for Gzdoom. You model them, export them with slab6 and you set up the Decorate/Zscript as if they were sprites. Makes it a lot easier to add details, while looking consistent with Doom's artstyle

[patent gull]

I'm running into a problem where basically, I have MAP01 and MAP02, I merged MAP02 into MAP01 using UDB's "merge into map" feature and both maps show up just fine in the level editor, but ingame the WAD ends after the first map. What am I doing wrong here?

I'm using GZDoom (UDMF it says in UDB as the game configuration) and UDB as said level editor

[hollow inlet]

check the end line def
is it "end game"?
change it to end level or whatever then or i think end normal.

[patent gull]

oooh my god its end game

[hollow inlet]

silly you

[patent gull]

LOLLL my bad

[hollow inlet]

nw

[haughty flower]

Aight I just started Doom mapping a few years ago...
This is my first attempt...
I made it like two years ago...

Lemme know what you think...
I think it's terrible...

[onyx scroll]

got nothing better to do so I'll have a go at it

As your current works are (in my opinion) impressive I don't think you'll take this too hard
Yeah, it's pretty bad

Still a higher enemy counts than any map I've ever made, though. lol

[haughty flower]

yeak ik right

it's got a badly designed window lol...

and also the cringe dark room hahaha XD

[onyx scroll]

so many missing textures on my end, sadly

[haughty flower]

oh

[onyx scroll]

maybe loaded the wrong IWAD idk

[haughty flower]

its a doom 2 map

[onyx scroll]

used that

so probably custom textures that for some reason weren't there

[haughty flower]

huh... weird...
i never used any custom textures

[onyx scroll]

eh, maybe sourceport related then

[haughty flower]

maybe...

yo there's a bfg outside the first room btw...

[onyx scroll]

I picked it up

[onyx ice]

Anyone know anything about UI/HUD stuff? Having trouble trying to play a mod because I can see a lot of like they way the video I was had set up

[onyx scroll]

I cannot get the original hud, but I did figure out how to at least enable the ammo and health stats
Press -

I guess I forgot that still worked with it

[onyx ice]

Oh well I see something, granted I don't know what I need to adjust

[onyx scroll]

is it no hud at all or is it just the doom rpg hud?

[onyx ice]

I think the hud is kind of like RPG, I'm just trying to get it to look like in the video, but rn everything looks off

I'll send a pic

[onyx scroll]

had to break my neck to view that

[onyx ice]

Sorry

Better?

[onyx scroll]

yeah

anyways, what's the hud meant to look like?

[onyx ice]

https://youtu.be/Cpsm9pcnQ2s?si=CEP21xobJLOOF1gm

[onyx scroll]

it might be in that person's config file?

he linked it in the description

[onyx ice]

I tried to use the .uni actually, but my game wouldn't load when that happened

[onyx scroll]

you could mess around with the settings

I wouldn't know where to look, though. Not at all familiar with the modpack

ok, there is a DoomRPG Hud options menu

best bet to find all HUD options is to search up the name of the mods within GZDoom's settings and checking them out

[onyx ice]

Ah, well I don't know what's labeled what

I'll see if anything stands out

[onyx scroll]

I just searched up "HUD" and I found DoomRPG's HUD settings

[onyx ice]

I tried adjusting things but nothing happened

[onyx scroll]

you do have to exit the menu to see changes

and it did change for me

[onyx ice]

Ah, RN I'm stuck in a supply crate menu. It say menu to exit but I can't exit x.x

[coral cloud]

goofy ahh monster closet

[coral cloud]

blue door

[onyx ice]

How do I remove inputs in controls?

[paper cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-shrug-i-dont-know-gif-13724441

[onyx ice]

Oof, too many input on the same button trying to figure out how to remove it

[onyx scroll]

backspace

[hollow inlet]

simple thing ig but uh,
how do i get the sky to work? (without the render sky option it just repeats the small texture over and over)

ive gotten it to work before but i have no idea how

[haughty flower]

Currently making a Doom mod based on a Youtube series called "Murder Drones".
I even made a logo for it, though it's just a placeholder for now...

I want to make the "Damnation" text a bit more glowy...
But maybe I think it's good enough...

[haughty flower]

Can anyone tell me the basics I need to know before modding/making Doom maps?

[haughty flower]

I'm making a custom Doom Weapon...
I'm using a sketchfab model as a reference for the sprites...

[trail jolt]

I recommend some tutorials such as those made by DOOMKid and DavidXNewton (both prominent members of the community). It's how I got my start. Then, just start mapping i guess :/

[trail jolt]

hehe, redux

[coral cloud]

so uh, I traced the stat bar sprite, 1 to 1, imported it into slade, and the sprite just.. gets bigger? anybody know how to fix this?

[flat harness]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/144963-01-elf-alchemists-master-levels-masterpack-the-best-way-to-play-the-master-levels-for-doom-ii-animatedswitchesumapinfo-5-episodes-46-maps/

I made a little thing for the master levels for doom 2, a build script that bundles the maps into a proper megawad

it improves the play experience significantly, by actually structuring every level as the original authors, more or less, intended, making some of these maps actually fun to play

[onyx ice]

In doomrpg rogue like, whats the red/pink number in the top left next to credits and skill points?

[hollow inlet]

WHY DOESNT THE SKY EVER FUCKING WORK

[lusty dove]

did you just set the texture on the ceiling to that sky, or did you set the sky to F_SKY1 and then use mapinfo or similar to set the sky texture for that map

[hollow inlet]

i made a custom sky (recolored the f_sky1 texture and just left the name as that)

[lusty dove]

yeah unfortunately thats not how it works

[hollow inlet]

but even with the normal f_sky1 texture, it doesnt work properly..
even tho its worked in previous maps..

and the other 3 skies dont work either

[lusty dove]

what source port are you mapping for?

[hollow inlet]

gzdoom, udmf format

[lusty dove]

ok

so, what you want to do, is you want to name your custom sky something else

doesnt matter what it is, just anything else. Then you want to create a MAPINFO lump in your project, or if you already have one, edit it

[hollow inlet]

mm

[hollow inlet]

to?

[lusty dove]

and then in the mapinfo lump, put the following:

{
  sky1 = "SKYTEXNAME"
}```

and replace the xy with your map number, and SKYTEXNAME with what you called the sky

[hollow inlet]

ye ye

?

[lusty dove]

and then put the regular sky texture on your ceiling

[lusty dove]

yes, wait why is it NMAP?

actually i guess it can be whatever in gzdoom so that works

[hollow inlet]

actually question on that, if i name it MAP01 ect will it remove the "hell on earth" episode?

since rn i had that and my own episode

[lusty dove]

i think so. I don't map for gzdoom so I dont entirely know how it works but in other source ports the only way to make new maps is to replace the existing campaign

[hollow inlet]

okay

ayeee it works

[lusty dove]

nice

[wide quarry]

Can you all recommend me megawads without custom weapons/enemies to play?

[lusty dove]

are you okay with light custom enemies that are similar to the default enemies, or do you want absolutely zero custom enemies

[wide quarry]

It's fine if there are not much of them, i plan to play it with Project Brutality

[lusty dove]

ahh ok

[lusty dove]

maybe try valiant: vaccinated edition. Valiant is an excellent megawad that has a lot of custom enemies and weapon changes and stuff. However, skillsaw created a separate version called vaccinated edition that removes all of the custom stuff and rebalances all of the fights to work with the vanilla enemies and weapons. it was intended to be used with gameplay mods

[hollow inlet]

how do i make this lil guy invisible?

[wide quarry]

Ohhh thanks

[patent gull]

define invisible

[hollow inlet]

like think of plutonias completely invisible bridges

as if you were walking on nothing

[patent gull]

oooh

I think you can make a 3d platform that is just very very thin

or theres a texture out there that makes it seethrough im an amateur at best at this myself LOL sorry

[onyx scroll]

Open up the map in a map editor and see for yourself

You can open the IWADs in editors

[hollow inlet]

okay true

[hollow inlet]

however i make a 3d platform..
(yes yes dummy sectors or smth ik)

[patent gull]

Thats a whole nother can of worms that I havent looked into yet LOL

[hollow inlet]

fair

[patent gull]

theres guides on it

[coral cloud]

hey guys, how do I get rid of bevel on ultimate doom builder

[coral cloud]

nvm, found it out

[charred lantern]

hey if you find a solution, could you actually say it

[coral cloud]

for the default controls, its ctrl + mouse-wheel up / down, to increase, or decrease the bevel while drawing a sector

[whole blade]

most wads with custom enemies are not compatible with overhaul mods

[hollow inlet]

whats bevel-

[coral cloud]

it adds angled corners to sectors.

[hollow inlet]

uh..?
how

i just draw the corners myself...

[coral cloud]

this

[coral cloud]

(I also use UMDF format Ultimate doom Builder)

[hollow inlet]

woa

can i just select the sector and do that

[hollow inlet]

well.. its not in udmf so

[onyx scroll]

You can still do old tricks in UDMF, right?

[hollow inlet]

well it still isnt the same

[onyx scroll]

Well, best thing I can say them is look at what you have and see what you can do with it

[hollow inlet]

mm

[patent gull]

Is there a way to "dissolve" vertices and linedefs in UDB without having them delete the entire sector?

[stuck pike]

Hey guys, hope all are doing well.

I'm looking to start my first doom wad, which is mostly a recreation of my dreams / inspired by my own dreams that i get when im sleeping. The issue is, I just need a name for it

I'm open to any suggestions (hopefully non-violent suggestions, because most of the dreams im planning on recreating hardly have a good amount of violence/fighting. But that doesn't mean that my wad will be completely non-violent of course)

[spice bronze]

guys where to find the right download of ultimate doom builde

[spice bronze]

got some
virtua
dreamcatcher
ataxia
adrift

[hollow inlet]

backspace.

[patent gull]

OOOOH MY GOD

[hollow inlet]

x3

[stuck pike]

hmmm. Ataxia sounds interesting, but that would be chosen if my dreams were more of nightmares instead 🤔

[patent gull]

somnium

latin for dream

dear fucking god how does one decorate a room LOL

[hollow inlet]

add some lights maybe

maybe a ceiling that lets you see the sky maybe some water or nukage or lava

maybe including a wall where you can see the liquid flow down

i like the basic structure of the room

[patent gull]

id like to make it so that youd be able to walk through the lava but take damage

but i have no idea how

i know the damage part just not the walk through part

[hollow inlet]

ive gotten it to work but im not sure how

try messing with the doublesidedness and or check like the impassableness

if that stuff doesnt work, try lowering the floor/vice versa with ceiling, then making it not doublesided

it should you a missing texture and when you add the texture it should be passable

[trail jolt]

dont make the lava pillars walls. still draw the linedefs, but give the lava texture to the "middle" slot and make sure that "impassable" is turned off. this means you can walk through it. be sure to set both sides "middle" textures to be lava, or youll end up with see-through lava 🙂

some visuals cause i suck at explaining stuff. just swap the red texture for your lava texture

[patent gull]

oh shit thanks ill definitely try that

i might bite the bullet soon and learn 3d platforms

[trail jolt]

cool. i still dont know how to do that, but im sure ill learn some day

i think its important to focus on getting the basics down on designing a fun and visual appealing map first before going into extras like that, but i guess thats just how i map 🤷‍♂️

whats important is to just map for yourself at first, dont worry about appealing to anyone else. happy mapping!

[patent gull]

i have made two other maps before this

[patent gull]

thanks man

[trail jolt]

sweet! are they published? id love to try them

[patent gull]

i have one of them published but thats like my first ever one

[trail jolt]

same

[patent gull]

im a little mixed on it now but heres the link
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/144883-my-first-ever-wad-criticism-appreciated/

[trail jolt]

yeah, ill give that a go later. just playing some destiny 2 right now, and ive got some other bits

[patent gull]

yeah no worries man, would appreciate a ping when youre at it

You think anyone has done a map before that depends on the minimap

like the level itself is just pitch black

[hollow inlet]

lol id upload wads i made but doomworld doesnt wanna email me

[trail jolt]

i think you might have to email mordeth still. there are some hurdles with doomworld registering, and its not well explained

[stuck pike]

hmmm

Somnia...Slaughterhouse?

actually yeah might choose somnium

[patent gull]

👍

[stuck pike]

(Dw I’ll credit ya lol)

[hollow inlet]

how do i (efficiently..?) get an mp3 of a doom midi im making

since just exporting an mp3 or whatever obv doesnt work

[haughty flower]

I am making the Doom 2016 supershotgun in classic doom

[haughty flower]

You can definitely use Audacity...

[hollow inlet]

that
that doesnt help

can i record my system audio?

[haughty flower]

Wait
I think there's a Midi editing software where you can export it as a mp3 or something...

[hollow inlet]

mm

[haughty flower]

yes you can...

[hollow inlet]

:o

[haughty flower]

Or you can just send me the midi file and I'll record it as an mp3...

[hollow inlet]

uhhhh

idk tell me how (i havent checked audacity yet im playing tf2 rn-)

[haughty flower]

ok

you can just send me the midi file and let me handle the rest though...

[hollow inlet]

no no

[haughty flower]

or you can just search up a youtube tutorial on how to record system audio using audacity...

idk my audacity settings are like this:

This allows you to record a high-quality mp3 file...

Something like that...

Or whatever...

[hollow inlet]

wdym this

mm?

[hollow inlet]

okay well i instead used a converter but..

its using the normal windows midi soundfont so..

[haughty flower]

dude is that slade?

[hollow inlet]

thats.. audacity?

[haughty flower]

ok..

you want to convert a midi into an mp3?

[hollow inlet]

ye

[haughty flower]

ok...

how bout this?
just send me the midi...
then i'll record it into an mp3...

sounds fair?

[hollow inlet]

well it wont sound the way id want it tho

(soundfonts)

[haughty flower]

No...
It will definitely sound the way that you want it...

[hollow inlet]

wdym

[haughty flower]

i've tried it once and it worked fine...

[hollow inlet]

go fuck yourself vega
anyway, no it wont, since its a different soundfont

[haughty flower]

look at this...
I recorded it using Audacity

[hollow inlet]

WAIT THE SONG IS CALLED THAT

[haughty flower]

Yes...
Apparently...

[hollow inlet]

well still the soundfonts will be dfifferent

[hollow inlet]

im not using the default windows-

[haughty flower]

No it doesn't use soundfonts...

[hollow inlet]

I SELECTED 3, NOT 6 WTF

[haughty flower]

What soundfont do you use btw?
Virtual MidISynth?

[hollow inlet]

yes

that doesnt help tho..
you still dont have the actual soundfonts

[haughty flower]

geez...

send me the soundfont then...

[hollow inlet]

nono i actually wanna see what you end up having it sound like

[hollow inlet]

i mean you could just tell me how to record it myself-

[patent gull]

you think a concept like this is fair for a doom map? the point is basically to just run across to the other side while picking up health

[hollow inlet]

i mean if its JUST running + health and thats it then.. kinda boring but as a mod concept with custom mobility shit or smth that seems cool

it doesnt seem unfair

[patent gull]

my first ever map vs a map i just finished making

god damn i love seeing progress

[hollow inlet]

nicee

[hollow inlet]

i love the mastermind stuck inside her child lol
WAIT NO NOT IN THAT WAY

[patent gull]

[hollow inlet]

[patent gull]

worth noting that this is like a week seperated from each other

just playing doom mods (for example shrine II) just makes me so inspired and makes making maps so fun

[hollow inlet]

wh

[patent gull]

wdym?

[hollow inlet]

nothing

[coarse parrot]

As a question, does anyone know how to remove background, extract and separate sprites into different images or do you know someone who knows about that?, I would appreciate the help

[haughty flower]

Ok
So you install Audacity...
Then you set the audio input to your computer speakers device...

[hollow inlet]

already have that x3

[haughty flower]

ok did it work?

[hollow inlet]

oh, INPUT!

[hollow inlet]

well uh... the speakers arrent listed...

[haughty flower]

you open another tab...

then you set the audio input there to speakers...

then you press the record button...

then you play the track from another tab from Audacity...

then you come back here if it worked...

[patent gull]

is the shotgun like ... a basic human right in doom mapping?

or should it be pretty scarce compared to the other weapons

[hollow inlet]

first off, compared to other weapons? def not. its usually the first gun you find
second off, most people like using the shotgun.

but for like the first level, maybe dont give the shotgun instantly

[hollow inlet]

what is that other tab lmaooo....

[trail jolt]

depends on the map and your own mapping style. i personally give players a shotgun off rip, but thats because i hate just using the pistol (especially on imps). however, some people when designing a megawad or an episode may hold off the shotgun until later in map 1, whether that be in a secret or picked up from shotgunners. overally, you should take a look at your map, weigh up your options and simply playtest to determine these sorts of questions.

[vivid nymph]

Finally finished my stage magic themed weapon mod: Showtime!!!

[haughty flower]

Map 02 I guess

I'm still working on it obviously

[haughty flower]

Another audacity tab ofc, you silly...

[haughty flower]

Eyyy...
Lookin' good, man...
Btw I also played your Angelic Aviary mod, it's also great...

[hollow inlet]

i- :<??

[haughty flower]

Ugh...
So you do it like this...
Two Audacity tabs...

Custom Doom HUD Face...

[hollow inlet]

it looks like normal shit

[haughty flower]

Ugh...
I mean this!!!

[hollow inlet]

mmmhm?

[haughty flower]

so you open your midi file in one of those tabs...

[hollow inlet]

yes

[haughty flower]

then you record on the other one:
basically it's supposed to be like this:

[hollow inlet]

mmm

yeah okay

it just crashes cool!

[haughty flower]

wtf?

welp...

at this point i can just say there's nothing we can do about that anymore...

yikes...

[hollow inlet]

no no it didnt crash when i imported the midi i was just trying to check smth cuz literally the first note sounded off lmao

[haughty flower]

ugh...
you want me to help you or what?

just get straight to the point...
cause i am not in a good mood rn...

[hollow inlet]

no no

[hollow inlet]

no fucking shit youve been in a bad mood since yesterday

[haughty flower]

News flash: I am very pissed right now...

[hollow inlet]

oke

[haughty flower]

You know what maybe I'm not the right person to teach stuff like this Audacity crap to other people...
Maybe you should find other people who can teach you better...

[hollow inlet]

oke

[haughty flower]

Doom Mod WIP: Murder Drones

[hollow inlet]

oke

looks nice tho!

[vivid nymph]

Glad you like it. Thanks.

[haughty flower]

Imagine if someone turned Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal maps into custom WADs.

[hollow inlet]

hell yeah

[trail jolt]

i think there is a quake project for that

[flat harness]

they have

there are many such mods for gzdoom

oh i misread it, didnt see you specified maps

was gonna list a bunch of gameplay mods

[vivid nymph]

Some of the maps have been remade in classic doom.

[trail jolt]

a fellow davidxnewton viewer?

[hollow inlet]

oh i remember watching that vid

[haughty flower]

yaya

[hollow inlet]

forgot what it was about x3

[haughty flower]

How to make a good Doom map

[hollow inlet]

ah

wait this IS the mapping channel

silly me

[haughty flower]

And I made a really good MAP02

[haughty flower]

yesss

[trail jolt]

im pretty sure hell be playing one of my maps soon, so im excited for that

[haughty flower]

hell?

[trail jolt]

he'll

[hollow inlet]

@onyx scroll sorry for the ping but..
so the extra parameters.. uh..? (no the extra parameters button doesnt work x3)

[trail jolt]

i dont think thats a button. you type your extra params into the box

[haughty flower]

Black = Use
Blue =
Red =
Green = Switch

[haughty flower]

Yo, are you planning to add more monsters in the mod?

[karmic egret]

@pure karma I think this is a scam

Yeah the account is active after 2 years mysteriously

[haughty flower]

I got the Hud dialog to show up

[vivid nymph]

@haughty flower At some point. All my energy is focused on Showtime at the moment so it will be awhile before getting back to AA.

[hollow inlet]

does someone have the mp3 of the icon of sins opening speech? i only have this
(or ig how do i convert it)

[onyx scroll]

Yeah, it ain’t a button, that’s a text box

[hollow inlet]

mm

[onyx scroll]

I’ll answer this when I get home if someone hasn’t already, I haven’t messed with Slade much

[hollow inlet]

kk

[onyx scroll]

You can convert it to WAV by right clicking it and selecting Audio > Convert Doom Sound to WAV

You’ll need to export it yourself from there

[hollow inlet]

ye

[haughty flower]

I made the instructions as the second title screen (credits)

IT WORKS

[haughty flower]

Hey, maybe you should add a custom boss for Showtime, maybe an evil Heidi or something...

[haughty flower]

I should add more Key Cards To my WAD

[vivid nymph]

I want to avoid adding enemies because then the mod can't be played with custom enemy packs.

I did made an enemy mod however called Angelic Aviary and some of the enemies have special interactions when played with Showtime!!! Same with if you play it with the enemy mod Versatile factions.

[hollow inlet]

tiny

[haughty flower]

Omg that hud!

[hollow inlet]

yes? :3

[haughty flower]

It looks cools :3

[hollow inlet]

mhm

[haughty flower]

What's the name of the HUD? :3

[haughty flower]

Wait- omg is that Doom Infinite

[coral cloud]

im trying to make wolfenstein in the doom engine (creative, I know) and I'm making this sprite where the gaurd unholsters his pistol, but it looks uhh...

[flat harness]

odd to say the least....

[hollow inlet]

hmmmmm

[sterile schooner]

jorkenstein

[hollow inlet]

huh

[haughty flower]

maybe move it more the the side of him >.>

[flat harness]

oh nice what mapset is this? are you gonna publish this soon?

[haughty flower]

Hmm?

I need to make a title screen

And an intermission screen

[coral cloud]

custom HUD

[onyx scroll]

that looks nice
any plans on releasing it or nah?

[coral cloud]

im making an entire megawad, so maybe 🤷

I also found this disk in the files, which I might use as a replacement to the keycards

[onyx scroll]

I do suggest to make it a widescreen HUD if you can

[coral cloud]

how exactly?

[onyx scroll]

lemme check how other widescreen HUDs do it

[coral cloud]

okay 👍

[onyx scroll]

it appears just to be a larger than usual status bar

at least with the one I'm looking at

you can look at some widesceen HUDs yourself and see how you could implement it

[onyx scroll]

but everyone I've looked at just now is literally just this

[onyx scroll]

also for this you could make it so the doors are controlled by external computer terminals that you can inject a virus into with the floppies

[coral cloud]

hmm, yeah, thanks for the idea :)

[coral cloud]

custom medical sprites

[haughty flower]

In the Doom 2 files?

[onyx scroll]

it's in both IWADs iirc

named STDISK

[coral cloud]

whats the max resoloution width wise

in like, literally all doom sourceports

[onyx scroll]

I wouldn't know to be honest

[coral cloud]

right

[onyx scroll]

I don't mess with custom textures often

[haughty flower]

Oh damn

I don't know how to make custom textures

Other than TITLEPIC, INTERPIC, CREDITS, and HELP or what ever that one is called

[onyx scroll]

Doomkid has a tutorial for it I think

[coral cloud]

in game picture

[onyx scroll]

that looks about right

looks better now with the extended HUD imo

[coral cloud]

yeah

👍

[onyx scroll]

also, got bored and decided to kinda make a mockup thingy for that idea for the floppy

[coral cloud]

nice :)

[onyx scroll]

not gonna use it more than likely because I'd still have to make the statusbar version of it but whatever

[coral cloud]

I just recolored the disk sprite, I'm not good at making fully custom sprites

heres a little glimpes of the first map i'm making, Its not fully completed yet

[onyx scroll]

just did this

I will tell you trying to make something that looks like a floppy that still fits will be a pain

mines barely does because I had to increase it's sprite size

[coral cloud]

I mean, the stat bar keycards, just look like floppys, but longer, and flipped on the side

[onyx scroll]

I guess

[coral cloud]

I hate adding textures to maps 😭

[onyx scroll]

what I had done

[onyx scroll]

don't see what's wrong

unless my tired mind just can't see it

[onyx scroll]

I really don't know why I'm spending time on this, I'm not even making any maps that'll use it

Eh, I guess I might in the future. In that case I'll have a base for the rest of them

[coral cloud]

making a wolfenstein "inspired" wad now, because sticking to one thing is to hard for me

[coral cloud]

its literally just wolfenstein, but in gzdoom, and theres no space magic

[flat harness]

working on a Freedoom TC for my Masterpack

[onyx scroll]

so that's what you meant by Freedoom TC..

[flat harness]

yup

freedoom assets over the default masterpack.wad

[flat harness]

also a PSX TC that I just showed on #videos

[onyx scroll]

saw that just now

[flat harness]

its pretty cool

[onyx scroll]

I really need to get into mapping

[flat harness]

i got the blessing of aubrey, and am gonna include music from the 20th anniversary extended albums into the masterpack psx tc

[onyx scroll]

I just can't create anything that plays or looks good so

[flat harness]

so that's prety nice

[flat harness]

i dont map at all, the masterpack just bundles a bunch of vanilla wads and glues them together with that good ol' UMAPINFO glue

[onyx scroll]

ah

[flat harness]

its just code my man

[onyx scroll]

but still, I need something to do other than bash my head into a keyboard in hopes of my half-baked project working

[flat harness]

get to it. once you are done with 1 map show it off, talk about ideas, make something more.

just like code, its baby steps until you get something big happening

[onyx scroll]

I just can't make anything look good

or well, play that well to be honest

[flat harness]

make anything

[onyx scroll]

my best playing map was probably the last one I made despite its low enemy count

[flat harness]

anything that keeps you going will get you there

[onyx scroll]

fair enough

if I ever get a half-decent result of a map I'll share it

[flat harness]

like a cartoon snowball

it just has to start and keep going

[onyx scroll]

I need to remove myself from low enemy counts, though

my highest enemy count was probably 90 or something

[flat harness]

now, make a map with 100 of them heckspawn. and then try 110. and keep going.

[onyx scroll]

I wouldn't have been able to make anything flow well with even 60

the 90 I had felt kinda horrible to play with

[coral cloud]

kerblooey

[haughty flower]

Nice

[dusty canopy]

I am making a midi. It is not finished yet, but if anyone wants to use it in a wad or anything, feel free. Just credit me for the song if you do.

[hollow inlet]

how the hell did you get a wav of that

[haughty flower]

Currently making an Evil Dead mod for Doom...

[dusty canopy]

Audacity, Timidity, Touhou Soundfont

[karmic egret]

Anyone a doom mapper here?

[lusty dove]

A lot of people are lol

[dusty canopy]

I rarely make doom maps, and the only one I put here was a map that was meant for messing around, like a sandbox with commands map.

[haughty flower]

yes, I think 90 percent of the people in this channel are.

[karmic egret]

Anyone who isn't a beginner

[lusty dove]

that is a lot of people. If you have a question, just ask the question

[haughty flower]

fr

[haughty flower]

Level 2: Warehouse
Goal: Find the YELLOW CARD and get to the Exit Door

(It's not finished yet)

and it'll be alot more windy?

Curvy?

[vivid nymph]

Card shield. Still in beta but functional. Can be stacked twice, cuts through enemies, passes through walls and doesn't blow up barrels.

[haughty flower]

I made a custom Doom sprite...
Gonna use it for an Evil Dead mod...

This...
IS MY BOOMSTICK!!!

[karmic egret]

I need a mapper for my doom mod cause I think the pace I'm going is too slow

[haughty flower]

W

[neon steppe]

does anyone know why my zscript code doesn't work? every time I launch gzdoom with it it just says very fatal error and doesn't tell whats the issue. i've tested it and the issue didn't occur when I didn't have the code enabled. (also the tabs appear glitchy without pressing the view whole file button on discord)

iam new to zscript and programming in general and idfk what iam doing

the code is supposed to be a shotgun guy that has ammo and has to reload its weapon when its out

[rose isle]

Showcase of a map im working on in my upcoming megawad, if you have any suggestions to make the map better let me know. Sorry for the quality had to compress it

[neon steppe]

you could change brightness and steepness level more often if you want your map to feel more alive othervise it looks good, short and catcy

[karmic egret]

Feels way too empty

[runic quarry]

it was an early screenshot

there's stalls now

so people can shit individually

[rose isle]

Thanks

[hollow inlet]

so.. where the fuck are my walls?
i simply drew a sector like normal.

[hollow inlet]

also... why do you wake up??

[haughty flower]

Your celling height is at the same hight as your floor so go underneath the floor and start scrolling up, begginer's mistake

Also you don't have block sound on for the linedefs that are making up the wall

but if you directly shoot an enemy and their pain state appears, they wake up regardless

[hollow inlet]

why does it do that with completely random sectors???

[hollow inlet]

forgot to say -
i cant hit the chaingunner through the like wall, only through the teleport

[haughty flower]

it doesn't, you make the door first, in UDB, making a sector automatically matches the height of the floor and celling from the one connected to it

[haughty flower]

block hitscans

[hollow inlet]

but i did first make a door

[haughty flower]

exactly, that's the problem

[hollow inlet]

thats.. thats what i did.

[haughty flower]

hmm

[hollow inlet]

oh

[hollow inlet]

nono i think its the block sound thing you mentioned. i made it block sound on the inside of the divider wall

[haughty flower]

okay

[supple fulcrum]

anybody got some good wads that don't expect gzdoom?

i very much appreciate how crispy doom feels to play, and i wanna try something that lets me use that

[coral cloud]

does anybody know how to make good doom midis?

[hollow inlet]

i use fl studio and that works very well, but you do need to pay up..

[coral cloud]

er, I don't want to pay anything..

[hollow inlet]

yea..
i did find some free midi software hold on

[hollow inlet]

someone recommended openMPT to me, it did seem fine

i didnt use it much but you have a piano roll and also music notation i think

it didnt feel too clunky from the 2 min i tried it before realizing i could use fl studio .w.

[coral cloud]

is it safe, the website looks.. funky

[hollow inlet]

uhhh

that doesnt even look like the same software..
lemme check stuffs

oh, thats that one. lemme check smth else lol wrong one

and yes it is safe but that one also felt kinda clunky
if you wanna try trackers, sure ig

Aria Maestosa. thats the one

[coral cloud]

does the software allow me to open other midi files?

[hollow inlet]

idk lmao but aria should be easier to work with

but you should be able to import other midi files, especially on aria (which is the one i used for 2 minutes so im just making educated guesses here)

[coral cloud]

is this the right website?

[hollow inlet]

yes

why doesnt the last teleporter work??
its literally the same one, just with its tags changed

[onyx scroll]

Tangerine Nightmare, despite its short length if you just look at the amount of maps
If you want to switch to Woof (which feels just like Crispy but with complevels), you can also try Overboard

[hollow inlet]

funky lil room

[karmic egret]

189 dollars 💀

[hollow inlet]

dude, its a daw

every daw thats used sorta professionally is as or more expensive as that

they usually go up to 500 euro i think unless theyre a subscription

(and no i dont use fl studio to only make doom midis lol)

[karmic egret]

Oh

[hollow inlet]

[haughty flower]

nice use of 3D floors?

[short dock]

Nope, portals

[haughty flower]

ooooh!

[hollow inlet]

guitar harmonics kinda sick tho

[haughty flower]

what software is that?

Attempting to make a Doom sprite from scratch...

Thank god it's starting to look like an actual shotgun...

Gonna use it for my Evil Dead mod...

[hollow inlet]

fl studio

[haughty flower]

Ah ok...

[hollow inlet]

:3

[haughty flower]

Hey btw do you think that the shotgun sprite looks good?

[hollow inlet]

defenetly

[haughty flower]

thanks

[hollow inlet]

the wood looks a bit off tho tbf
a bit too.. chocolately? maybe make it a smidge brighter?

[haughty flower]

yeah sure thing...

I just based it off a 3d model...
Maybe that's why...

[hollow inlet]

okay

[scenic tendon]

Does anyone know of any slenderman makes in Doom?
Like it be cool if there was some slenderman Doom mod in like a forrest and all

I'm not sure if one already exists though, if someone knows of one I would like to play it!

[wise wadi]

hi

[hollow inlet]

amazing

[stuck pike]

thats awesome ngl

[hollow inlet]

:o

[stuck pike]

did you make that with ultimate doom builder?

[hollow inlet]

yeh

i also have a part that looks like theres two rooms above each other (using teleports ofc)

[stuck pike]

i really need to figure out how to do those teleport things

trying to make a doom wad (design has started on a sheet of paper, but nothing in terms of modelling the actual levels)

[hollow inlet]

i can explain it to you chat or call wise if you want

oh and if you mean the basic teleports with the green smoke..
yeah idk either lmfao

[stuck pike]

gotta make sure its seemless lmao

[stuck pike]

currently learning on youtube on how to do basic doom wads

[hollow inlet]

so the static portals like the one in the video

[hollow inlet]

i mean tbf the static portals arrent that basic lol but yeah ig theyre not that hard either

[stuck pike]

hopefully i can learn it quickly lol

i have the idea laid out in my head clearly, i just need to execute it

[hollow inlet]

i can send you a screenshot in.. an hour lol

you shouldve prolly gotten it by then
alternatively you can just search static portals in yt and stuff

[hollow inlet]

now that rock.. thats somethin

[hollow inlet]

unfinished wad that i be making :3

[haughty flower]

"Groovy..."
"This... IS MY BOOMSTICK!"

[hollow inlet]

woa

[patent gull]

is there any way to make a door openable/open only if you have killed every enemy in the room?

[trail jolt]

not unless you use scripting

[patent gull]

yeah im fine with doing that but how

i have zero knowledge or experience so maybe its too advanced of a question

[trail jolt]

i have no clue either lmao

[patent gull]

are variables a thing in whatever language gzdoom is in?

i was thinking like, every kill would add one to that variable and the script would constantly check for a number and if it meets that it would trigger the door

[flat harness]

GZDoom has two options for scripting: ACS and ZScript. ACS is older and more limitted. There are many tutorials online about ZScript, a quick search on YouTube should reveal it all, I recommend DavidXNewton's youtube channel as a start for it, but there are plenty.

[runic breach]

3, decorate exists

4, dehacked exists

[runic breach]

you use acs for that afaik

[flat harness]

does it do level scripting, as well? i thought it did mostly for enemy states?

also can dehacked even achieve such a thing?

[runic breach]

acs is designed for level scripting, you're thinking of dehacked

[runic breach]

no but i was being pendantic since you said "scripting" and not "level scripting"

[flat harness]

no no, decorate, i asked if decorate mostly did enemy states, but i see your point

[flat harness]

"Doomguy's bad day", what a little heck-spawn murdering can't do to de-stress a space marine, amirite?

[haughty flower]

A preview of my upcoming Evil Dead mod...
Boomstick WIP...

[hollow inlet]

@solar brook since you like to ask how mappings going.. yeah its pretty good lol

got like 4.5 maps now :3

with custom songs on each thing so far :p

[fading quartz]

feedback on this map layout I have so far? I can give an in-game view if you want to

[lusty dove]

what about it? gameplay wise or visual wise

[warm zenith]

What do you guys use to make doom maps?

[onyx scroll]

Ultimate Doom Builder or Doom Builder X

[warm zenith]

Thanks

[fading quartz]

both. but mostly gameplay wise

[lusty dove]

Ultimate doom builder for map editing slade for resource management, and decohack for dehacked modding

[fading quartz]

Ultimate Doom Builder for sure. Has the most features

[fading quartz]

progress

[warm zenith]

Okay I will use Ultimate Doom Builder

[fading quartz]

Yes, it's the best in my opinion. But don't fear to try something else if you want, maybe a different one fits you better

[atomic drum]

I've been trying to make a pwad with custom textures, however I am having troubles trying to keep it compatable with Boom. It currently functions fine with Gzdoom, however whenever I try running the wad in Boom I get the error: "r_TextureNumForName: SW1BRCOM not found"

[fading quartz]

Maybe because there is no SW1BRCOM in your wad?

[lusty dove]

well in terms of gameplay, a top down view does not really give a good idea, the only way to really tell is by playing it

[fading quartz]

I can upload a video and/or the map (with a demo) later, I'm currently not home

[lusty dove]

Even watching a video of you playing isn't really going to help

The only way to get an idea is to play it yourself

Playtesting is an important part of the process

[fading quartz]

Yep I'll upload the wad file later. I never really asked anyone to playtest my maps. Only like my dad but that was a trash as hell map

[fading quartz]

there you go

it's obviously not finished yet, so after you find the blue key, it's already over for now

[lusty dove]

Il try it when I get home :)

[fading quartz]

cool, thanks!

[lusty dove]

what map format?

[fading quartz]

Doom 2 Doom format I guess

that's what it says on UDB

[lusty dove]

cool

that means vanilla in this case, or if you make the map too big/complex, it would be limit-removing

but it doesnt look like you are near that territory

uhh the map crashes when i try to run it

are you using an gzdoom specific features or something else?

yeah seems like this map only runs in gzdoom

oh nevermind now its fine

oh strange

it works some of the time and crashes other times

weird, it doesn't work in crispy doom or chocolate doom either, but they both give different crash messages

oh i see the problem, for some reason nodes are not being built

[lusty dove]

what level editor are you using for this?

[fading quartz]

ultimate doom builder

the linux build

[lusty dove]

ok

can you go to your game configurations settings?

it seems like your editor is not using a nodebuilder for some reason

go to this

and see what it says for these two settings

your map does not have any nodes which means that some source ports which don't have a built in nodebuilder will not be able to run it. It should be an easy fix though

[fading quartz]

ZenNode normal and ZenNode Fast. I noticed tho, that I always get a "failed to build nodes" error message, but I never had problems by myself (I use GZDoom and my stuff always worked fine). I didn't know that it would cause any major issues, sorry about that

[lusty dove]

oh interesting

means you must be doing something weird, or something is wrong with your setup

looking in the editor, i don't really see what could be the problem

[lusty dove]

if you are making doom format maps, it can be a good idea to test in some other ports to ensure compatibility

dsda-doom and crispy-doom are a couple of good ones to test in since they are widely used

there should be repositories for them on your linux distro

[fading quartz]

yeah, I never really thought about that. I never really had the intention, to share my maps to others until now.

[lusty dove]

well anyways

technical issues aside, the map is fun so far! My one suggestion is that that room with the imps on pillars could use a few more enemies.

maybe some pinkies running around on the edges

[fading quartz]

Thank you! Yeah, I'll look into that.

[lusty dove]

additionally, I personally don't like to force the player to run through damaging floors, but if you are going to do it, I would put a decent amount of health pickups on the other side

[fading quartz]

yes, I know my health/armor/ammo pickup placement is pretty thin, but I don't wanna exagerate and do too much. Still haven't figured out a good feeling for this

Thank you for you feedback tho! I really appreciate it!

[lusty dove]

thats okay, it takes time. and really the best way to do it is just testing testing testing. Just put some, if its too little, put some more, if its too much, remove some. And thats what sending it to other people is for

im trying to figure out why the nodes don't want to builddd

[fading quartz]

yep, I'll look into that. I might send a complete version of the map, when it's done

[fading quartz]

could just be a linux problem. I might post a bug report on github if there isn't a fix already

[lusty dove]

nope because my udb wont either

mine doesn't give an error message, but it wont build them either

[fading quartz]

sounds weird... maybe the map has been saved incorrectly. I can't remember correctly, but I think on my older windows laptop (my first computer) it worked fine

[lusty dove]

oh i found a problem maybe

im not sure exactly what, but something is fucked here

i googled it and someone said to use udbs built in map analysis tool which searches for problems in this map. and the only thing was a couple of unused upper/lower textures (which don't matter) but it found a bunch of problems in this one corner

yeah there is something weird with that line

[fading quartz]

I don't think that's it. I got the error message when I made the first room already.

[lusty dove]

i drew over that line with the line tool, and now the nodes build fine

so i think that was the problem

maybe something about the way that you map causes problems like this and you had a similar problem in the first room earlier but you solved it by accident?

or a defect in the editor

[fading quartz]

I'm really confused rn 💀 which line do you mean exactly?

[lusty dove]

but basically there were somehow multiple lines stacked on top of eachother but not connected in a weird way in that area

could be an editor bug

with the linux build, that creates these defects

but thats definitely what was stopping the nodes from building

[fading quartz]

yeah idk really, I don't have that weird ass line there

[lusty dove]

maybe you fixed it by accident? or its an editor bug

[fading quartz]

probably editor bug

[lusty dove]

so your editor doesn't know its there or something, so it wont get rid of it

[lusty dove]

worth making a bug report about, you could put this video in

[fading quartz]

yeah I'll check that

I also have some instances where the editor just straight up crashes, so it might be one of those buggy features.

[lusty dove]

i think in general, the linux build of udb is incredibly unstable, or so ive heardd

[fading quartz]

Yeah I read that too

thanks for the feedback again! I really appreciate it!

[lusty dove]

np

i may post my map here eventually once its ready

[fading quartz]

nice, I'll make sure to check it out

[lusty dove]

this is how it looks atm

[fading quartz]

that's actually really nice. I see, you're a better mapper than me, but I also try to be a bit more in style of the original doom and doom 2.

[lusty dove]

not really, i just have way too high standards for myself so it takes me absolutely forever to make anything

and i spend like weeks on a couple of rooms

also yeah you are using just stock textures and this is using a very fancy texture pack (OTEX)

also, your map does a good job at doing the classic style and i think it looks very nice

[fading quartz]

I know about otex, at least I heard of it. The textures on their own are nice, but I think they don't fit my purpose

[fading quartz]

thank you!

[lusty dove]

fair

i have never actually released a map because i can never finish one

[fading quartz]

same bro xD

[lusty dove]

but hopefully il finish this one

[fading quartz]

yeah I often forget about my projects/lose interest in them. The same with software development. I program in C++, but often there's an error that I don't know how to resolve or the project just becomes boring or something and I just forget about it. I should definitely stop this habit, because I have some interesting projects laying around

[lusty dove]

literally same

mapping/modding for doom, minecraft, portal, and other various games, programming and game development, minecraft redstone contraptions, music composition

[fading quartz]

with music, I'm a little more consitent, as I play in a band. but the other stuff is just as inconsistent for me

[hollow inlet]

same lmao

but uh speaking of
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1151965834953117726/1245073421902155848/Desktop_2024.05.28_-_19.55.43.02.mp4?ex=66576c7c&is=66561afc&hm=15561f3e6e4264771a55478dca7776453d363aaf4b5d471cbcc8a6666e6bc80d&

[fading quartz]

sounds nice

[hollow inlet]

:3

[haughty flower]

A new update for my WIP Doom mod...
I apologize for the delayed audio, it's a recording issue and it didn't sound like that while recording...

[fading quartz]

guys we have massive progress

[warm zenith]

Great

[fading quartz]

thanks!

[lusty dove]

looks great!

[fading quartz]

Thanks! That'll be the first level for now. I wanna make a full series out of it.

[lusty dove]

cool!

is the level complete? If so, if you need some testing, send it here and il play it when i am home

[fading quartz]

Yep, the level is done. But until friday, I'm not home, so you'll have to wait a bit

[lusty dove]

ah

[flat harness]

nice, good work. if bandicam is giving you issues, you should try OBS Studio is the go-to these days for video capture, unless you already knew that and have a reason to pick bandi.

[haughty flower]

The mod looks amazing so far

[trail jolt]

I look forward to getting to try it

[haughty flower]

I’d playtest it too if you want

[trail jolt]

Yeah, I'll prolly give it a go too, y'know, to give feedback

[neon steppe]

ooh, nice shot!

[hollow inlet]

im too stupis for obs

[warm zenith]

Just started making a map with UDB

Can't wait to finish and show my friends

[haughty flower]

That looks awesome

[fading quartz]

Looks awesome. I like the layout, but personally not a fan of the slopes, because I go more vanilla style with my maps

[short dock]

I also really like the maps in that style, apart from the nostalgia.

[hollow inlet]

you should make the top of the db show two barrels not just he a flat surface

[tender mesa]

Well someone got hacked

[haughty flower]

i got a quick question thats been really confusing for me

im not quite sure on how to find stuff like the marines or really anything in the other catagories

[lusty dove]

Can you clarify?

[haughty flower]

see how in the first image theres things like Marines,Bridges and Slopes

i dont have that stuff in the second image

and i dont know how to get that

[lusty dove]

Those are gzdoom only items

You have to be using the gzdoom: doom 2 (UDMF) game configuration

To get those, and only gzdoom will be able to play your map

[haughty flower]

ah i see okay

yessss thank you man

[umbral skiff]

https://www.moddb.com/games/doom-ii/addons/memeaids-custom-midi-selection

My first ModDB upload got approved.

Made a sort of "Personal Playlist" wad out of tracks I love, initially only for personal use, until I got the idea to post full credits, and publish it for others to use as well!

Obviously this is Fair Use lol-

[haughty flower]

hey i have another question how do i see servers with skull tag

nevermind i got smth workin

[fading quartz]

guys I'm home

I'll tune the map a bit (monster count, pickups etc etc) then I'll upload

[fading quartz]

please use GZDoom, cuz my node builder is having massive diarrhea and won't build my nodes. (there will probably be some problems with other source ports). game is doom 2

[onyx scroll]

I can confirm the map at least runs on Woof

[fading quartz]

Well that's good. I never tried woof tho (I never even heard of it tbh)

Thanks for testing, also!

[onyx scroll]

Woof's good for vanilla, pretty much

also, this happened after I had interacted with the otherside of the silver door in the same area as the red key

either due to the node builder issues or due to the linedef

as the entire map is now broken

if it's linedef it's due to the tag

yeah, it's the linedef

[lusty dove]

lemme check the map for the weird problems that were in the other version causing the nodebuilder issues

because again i dont think its an issue with the nodebuilder, but its an issue with your map editor itself

because it creates these invalid/broken lines

oh interestin

this time, udbs map analysis tool didnt find any broken lines

wonder why the nodebuilder still isnt working

[lusty dove]

oh i see the problem here

i dont know why its doing this, maybe you tagged the wrong sector, but when you click the backside of the door, it opens the room as a door rather than opening the door

[onyx scroll]

not my map btw

[lusty dove]

yeah ik

[onyx scroll]

also, that's exactly what I assumed

[lusty dove]

oh not only the room, it opens the entire map as a door

[onyx scroll]

yeah

[lusty dove]

yeah i see what happened, you used a switch action with tag 0

so it activated ALL sectors without a tag in the map as if they were a door

[onyx scroll]

ignore what I had said

[lusty dove]

other than that the map was fun though

[fading quartz]

Okay imma check that, I don't have that problem.

[fading quartz]

okay I fixed it. At this point, I had some trouble with the monsters behind the door, they would wake up when I shoot at the pinkies infront of the door and to prevent them from "leaking" into the other room, I made an improvised door out of that sector with tag 7 and the two door sides as switches to open sector tag 7 as a door. I know, this isn't best practice, I also made a block monster linedef there, but yeah. that's just me being stupid

[hollow inlet]

imma just send this 4.5 map wad in here if anyone wants to try it. (gzdoom, doom II)

4.5 as in the 5th one is unfinished :p
oh and missing skies on map 4 and 5

[haughty flower]

no they're not gzdoom-only items...
They work with zandronum too...
It's also in UDMF format in general...
And also in classic format...
And hexen format,,,

[haughty flower]

2nd attempt at making Doom sprites:
Uzi's Railgun

Based on this photo:

[hollow inlet]

that looks like a toy blue glock or smth.

.w.

[haughty flower]

reference:

[hollow inlet]

sounds really nice, maybe work on the loop tho.

[hollow inlet]

so uh.. is there a reason udb doesnt fill a sector if i copied atleast one of the linedefs? (sorry for the music i just decided to clip this rq)

[fading quartz]

you have to use the sector making tool. It's the square with the star in the top right corner, right under things mode on the left side.

If that's what you're searching for

[karmic egret]

That's the sector making tool

[hollow inlet]

but.. i can just draw lines with the linedef tool

[fading quartz]

yeah but you have to remove the line afterwards, which can break your sector again. You can remove the line with backspace and preserve the surrounding geometry and sectors but it's faster and better practice to use the specific tool for it