classic-doom-maps-mods

[worthy sparrow]

I did that and i don't see anything for gzdoom

Do you think i could've maybe deleted it when i initially deleted the folder the first time?

[grand token]

No idea.

That should be the default location for gzdoom.ini to my knowledge.

[worthy sparrow]

i could see where the problem is occuring

whenever i boot up gzdoom it isn't showing the megawad screen where you boot it up like normal

the weird part is that i already have the megawads downloaded and in the same folder

[worthy sparrow]

hol up it's actin funky

[grand token]

Try the GZDoom Discord, they have a technical support forum.

[worthy sparrow]

they have a discord?

[grand token]

Yeah, just google 'gzdoom discord', there's a forum post for it.

[fleet sonnet]

is it possible to make a see through thin gate work as a door

[grand token]

A door can use any wall texture.

[runic agate]

Uhh anyone knows how to fix this? I think my helmet is broken

[fallen panther]

I forgot just how good Meat grinder's monster pack feels so good to play

Perfect for something like guncaster vindicated

[haughty flower]

ultimate doom builder is better

[neon bronze]

Working on my second map ever

[fleet sonnet]

working on my third map every

should i make an archvile jump secret or a normal teleporter secret

nevermind

[storm charm]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/terminator-mayhem/downloads/terminatormayhemarena-v23

[royal wave]

https://twitter.com/kbeevans/status/1652040894525370368?s=20

kevy Mckevyface (@kbeevans)

I crimed so hard in #GZDoom that I made texture filtering look good.

Twitter · Apr 28, 2023, 8:03 PM

[random swan]

look good? well.... certainly subjective

[solar mica]

https://twitter.com/Darsycho/status/1652223773779673091

Logic Obscure Productions (@Darsycho)

Nothing super screenshot-worthy this Saturday, getting a ton of code work done though, the next update for Improvisation is gonna be a big 'un.

Till then, have this image for your #screenshotsaturday :)

#doom #doommodding #gzdoom #indiedev

Twitter · Apr 29, 2023, 8:10 AM

[runic agate]

Helloww

Does anyone know how to install reshade on delta touch? Or maybe not

[clever sequoia]

I was unaware that using Ultimate Doom Builder was this easy.

[haughty flower]

udb is the best doom builder of all doom builders

[fleet sonnet]

doom builder 2 is simpler but i switched to udb because for some reason db2 wouldnt open again and udb is actually way better

didnt romero use doom builder 2 or something to make sigil

[raw comet]

Yeah, he uses DB2.

However, keep in mind that DB2 had not been updated since - - - 2013?

Or 2012?

Either way, I recommend using something newer, UDB will be just fine.

[tardy rain]

https://youtu.be/FDjN8FcA0Wk

[runic breach]

cool

[lusty dove]

i did one for the E5M8 theme!

[shut crane]

Are there other sites where I can download custom textures, monsters, etc. other than Realm667?

[onyx scroll]

I think /idgames might have some

I’m really unsure however

[haughty flower]

UDB keeps being updated

there are updates even recently

[raw comet]

That's what I ment, UDB is just fine. DB2 on the other hand has been unmaintained for roughly a decade now.

[clever sequoia]

New update on my map:

Added dynamic lighting and reverb to the sound environment.
Also, teleporters were HARD to get working right.

[raw comet]

Not bad, though the lights need to make sense - what is illuminating the environment or a section of the map? Teleporter flats are confusing - unless you can make it much more unique and stands out as a teleporter.
Just my suggestion, good luck on your doom adventures!

Oh, don't forget to include gzdoom's default brightmaps and gldefs. This way you can see what the player sees and use that to your advantage.

[neon steppe]

gzdoom has some huuge lag spikes for me which useally lasts for around 5-25 seconds and its been like this for over a week now so if someone knows what the problem is please help

[haughty flower]

Maybe quality settings

I noticed that a lot of people use GZDOOM

I don't like it

It takes away the vanilla experience, even with doom strict compatibility setting enabled

Thats why boom ports are the best

[neon steppe]

thats what i was aiming for but i didnt seem to find any free ports that are like the original game

[timid flume]

https://youtu.be/m6fF4JLnlAU

This is I've been working on for this bank holiday weekend; Walpurgis Korax getting abilities and a much bigger and detailed map. I also even voiced new lines for him myself (though no, I don't sound like Korax in real life, I'm just good with Audacity lol).

[thin gulch]

ive been making my first wad, and i wanna upload it when im done, but i dont know where. is there any good place to do so?

[crisp dragon]

usually a good place to do it is probably Doomworld

[north bear]

Hey guys maybe a bit stupid question, but can monsters trigger walk over linedefs in completely vanilla game? I'm making a map in complevel 2 and want to use lost soul outside the map for some triggers

[timid flume]

Or if you mean file hosting, then go with MEGA or Googledrive whilst testing your wad. If you think its amazing and finished, you can request it to be submitted to idGames archive on Doomworld.

But if you want people to test it and give feedback, then yes, release on Doomworld or if you're not confident on just releasing straight off, then PM one of the people on the Testing thread: https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/118850-who-can-test-your-maps-list-of-active-playtesters/

[haughty flower]

no, only voodoo dolls, but you need to make a scrolling floor to move the voodoo doll over the linedef, and you can't make a scrolling floor in vanilla doom, only boom.

[runic breach]

what do you mean

virtually every popular boom-based port has full vanilla compat

[north bear]

Ah too bad. I guess i'll have to do something else. Thanks

[neon steppe]

well what i found boom ports either had wierd sounds or textures, honestly gzdoom is fine for me for now, the only problem that truly annoys me is that you know in the original game enemies block your movememnt in the y-axis regardless of their height when gzdoom doesnt do that even tho a lot of wads use this mechanic, ive been trying to find a wad or something that fixes that problem unfortunatly i couldnt find anything.

[haughty flower]

slaughtermap (kinda) done!

[crisp dragon]

interesting

[haughty flower]

It's pretty tough compared to the medium sized monster count (133)

but the layout is wide open, so the enemies can snipe you from everywhere

and there are just two places where you can hide

and the only health pickups are 1 supercharge, 1 megasphere, and 2 medikits

i may remove the megasphere tho

the map doesn't have the best design, but it will do it

[haughty flower]

i tried to record a demo about how i complete the map xd

i have 20 or smth failed demos and 18 of them are just me dying in the beginning area

[runic breach]

you can just change the soundfont

also what ports did you try

[whole blade]

the best port is the one a wad is designed for, or the one you enjoy the most

[storm charm]

agreed

[storm charm]

For example, this mod that id designed for ZANDRONUM:

https://www.moddb.com/mods/terminator-arena/downloads/na249368

[storm charm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jSzx9wXOL4&ab_channel=SkeletronMK666

[haughty flower]

16 failed demos of the slaughtermap i've done making yesterday... the 14th and 16th are the two demos where i got close to the end

[neon steppe]

chocolate, crispy and zdoom

[neon steppe]

and you are right i would have probably find that if i give it a bit more time but i was really not confident for some reason, its been like a year ago and i just wanted to play doom quick

so i chose gzdoom where i changed the settings a bit and i guess i didnt care about it much

oh and i only came back for doom not long ago again so that 1 year wasnt playing doom all the time, iam still kind of a begginer :P

[runic breach]

none of those are boom ports

well, i guess zdoom probably has some boom in it

idk how crispy/chocolate's textures "look weird" though

[neon steppe]

what is then?

[haughty flower]

prboom-plus and dsda-doom

[neon steppe]

thx

[haughty flower]

i use prboom, but most people would recommend dsda-doom so it's your choice

it's basically the same thing, dsda is just better optimized and has a rewind feature

but other than that, it's completely the same as prboom

[neon steppe]

oh, i see

[lost flame]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/132011-gregs-gargantuan-gadventure-of-glory-gaffes-and-garbage-v035-map06-the-boners-be-upon-us/

[neon steppe]

this is much better than gzdoom, thank yo

[haughty flower]

yeah, these ports add a lot of options, but they still keep the vanilla feeling

obviously there are less option than in gzdoom, but it doesn't need more

gzdoom has too much options

you won't use 97% of them probably

[neon steppe]

yeah

[fleet sonnet]

i can’t stop using romero heads in my maps

[haughty flower]

for (death) exit

[pearl bane]

yk that shadowrun game for the snes that launched in '93?

ive finished that game a lot now and id like to see someone port that game to doom

i would try to do it myself but idk how to create the rpg features

[fleet sonnet]

no just exit

all kinds of exits

[grand token]

Advantages of using Romero's head:

• Quirky.
• The player can't see what linedef triggers the exit on the automap and can accidentally exit prematurely.
• The sound scares the living daylights out of the player.
  Disadvantages:
• None

[storm charm]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/135390-terminator-arena-v24-a-terminator-deathmatch-mod-by-skeletronmk666/

[fleet sonnet]

is using a commander keen behind a fake wall instead of using a shootable switch for a sigil eye a bad idea

[haughty flower]

it's basically the same just the eye is considered an item

[grand token]

A shootable switch is activated with a single pistol shot, but you need to convey to the user that they need to keep shooting until Keen dies.

[fleet sonnet]

oh ok

[fleet sonnet]

how should i do that

[grand token]

The player should see that it's something they can kill. Either leave Keen clearly visible (as in Speed of Doom) or give it a different skin and telegraph that it's a destructible object (as in Going Down). If you hide it behind a fake wall (as in... I forgot, I think there was a non-secret secret like that in Resurgence) it can confuse the player.

The only clue they would have is Keen's distinctive pain sound.

[thin gulch]

can someone dm me and help me figure out whats wrong? im using gzdoom, and ive been downloading some wads but a lot of them dont work. ive tried doom 1 and doom 2, ive put the wads in the correct folder... im so confused

[brisk plank]

Do you have ZDL

Or a doom launcher?

[thin gulch]

i use gzdoom and also use zdl in hopes it could work too but it doesnt

i can send the link i get the wads from once i get home (its a weird link theres no way ill remember)

[brisk plank]

You'd probably want to load DOOM.WAD and DOOM2.WAD into the IWADs directory in general settings

[thin gulch]

i tried that, i also tried using plain ol ZDoom but that didnt work either

[brisk plank]

In external files, load the wad that aren't doom.wad or doom2.wad in launch configs

The IWADS are shown and you can select the ones that are needed

Btw Plutonia and TNT are separate wads that need to be loaded onto the IWAD directory in general settings as well

It's kinda weird to set up at first, even I struggled until I managed to do it

[thin gulch]

well some wads work but some dont. im not sure why theres a divide

ive got gz set up and all that but like half the wads i downloaded do nothing

i legitimately beleive some wads just flat out dont do anything 💀

[thin gulch]

ok nevermind i cant send links

[haughty flower]

here is my slaughtermap-ish map

took me 77 attempts to speedrun through it

of course, if you play it normally it will take much less attempts

[neon steppe]

depends on how experienced you are actually

[haughty flower]

yeah

[signal stag]

Guys, do anyone knows a way to add new custom weapons to my wads?

Without changing default weaponry textures

[next ruin]

whats the best place to find classic wads n mods other than MODDB

[raw comet]

/idgames would be my go to.

[raw comet]

Depends on what engine you are using, but also what you are wanting to add. Sprites, hud, sounds, animation, gun behavior, etc.

[signal stag]

For example I want to use gzdoom

Or more specifically gzdoom builder

[raw comet]

You were correct saying GZDoom, GZDoom Builder is not really GZDoom, just an editor to create maps and map scripts

If you want to add behavior to your weapons, go here:
https://zdoom.org/wiki/Creating_new_weapons

If you want to change the sounds, sprites, and hud texture, you will need to dig a bit deeper. Sorry, I have to run.

ZDoom wiki is a very useful guide and I strongly urge you to use it.
To change, add, remove files from a WAD file, I recommend Slade.

[signal stag]

Thanks

[fleet sonnet]

my wad keeps crashing slade for soem reason

[worthy sparrow]

The ingame picture was from a early build

[raw comet]

I think your gamma is a bit too strong 😛

[fleet sonnet]

wait are you allowed to post wads directly here or do we have to upload them to a website

nvm

[fleet sonnet]

my second and third maps ever (my first map file got corrupted but it was only a basic boring techbase so whatever)

i didnt know what else to call it

i'd appreciate it if you give em a test

[haughty flower]

is it compatible with boom ports?

or i have to use gzdoom? (i hate gzdoom)

[fleet sonnet]

yes as far as i know but the reccomended rendering settings should be like modern settings

[fleet sonnet]

it’s 2 levels designed originally in doom builder 2 but then i moved to ultimate doom builder after db2 stopped working for me somehow

[fleet sonnet]

along with advice and constructive criticism

[storm charm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/216978328588910592/1104712371697631232/image.png

added a new weapon to my mod- an auto shotgun, sprites form realm667. i call it the Combat Shotgun

[haughty flower]

now i try it

@fleet sonnet i had to use gzdoom because there were some errors but they were pretty good

jsut pot more ammo

this maps look better than map01 in my wad atleast

[fleet sonnet]

oh ok

[heavy sluice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1084065798953377812/1104911233381060670/2023-05-07_17-21-19.mp4

[solar mica]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4h0p-fchgJw

i will get version 1.0 of Improvisation out by this year, i swear it (:<

[raw storm]

nice

[timid flume]

https://youtu.be/QfMu4WsblnU
Adding quite a chunk of polish to the Korax Bossfight you may have seen last week!

[haughty flower]

Classic doom maps mods

[crisp dragon]

I'll go take a look

uh oh broken texture

also the bars as well

don't mind the gamma, I usually play on gamma 2 which is much lower

[neon steppe]

how can i make teleporters in udb in boom: doom 2 (doom format) game configuration?

[crisp dragon]

You can search up a tutorial on how to do so

[neon steppe]

i didnt find any tutorials on how to make it with the configuration file ive decided to use thats why i asked it in here hopefully someone knows it

[haughty flower]

the sky is supposed to be behind the bars

but the other broken texture, sorry for that

[haughty flower]

i made a sky wall by lowering the sky ceiling to the floor, so you're probably playing on software renderer if it's not there

i play on OpenGL and it works fine for me

@crisp dragon btw, what's your opinion about the map, if you've beaten it already

[neon steppe]

nvm i found it out myself

[crisp dragon]

hm if so then I'll try switching to opengl renderer

[lusty dove]

you should make sure that your map works on software as well since most people use that

also only a few ports have gl

[crisp dragon]

there are a few texturing issues as well for the lifts

for example, with the lowering walls there are slight issues with textures on the side, and the exit door also has a HOM effect on the side as well

as for the map, I was going through the layout in nomo so I could get to know it a bit better

so far my only complaint would maybe be a slight neo jump you'd have to do in the face of a cyberdemon, but I don't know any encounters further than that so my opinion may change

[crisp dragon]

there seems to be several enemy placements that are bugging out the map

for example, the lift that comes down after you open the yellow door

that doesn't work due to the chaingunners on top of it, I have no idea

they are likely stuck there or something along those lines

regardless, this basically breaks map progression

I had to use IDCLIP to kill the chaingunners in order to proceed

for the map as a whole, it doesn't feel very.... slaughter-y

it feels moreso like just a regular map with lots of enemies

slaughter is usually defined by open spaces that are packed tight with demons

[fleet sonnet]

uhhhhh

[haughty flower]

on OpenGL they come down when you lower the lift

i'll fix these issues when i get home

was the map difficult or not?

[haughty flower]

i think you can walk past them because i placed them on the left side

oh it doesn't come down

when i'll get home i'll fix it

the reason why i placed the chaingunners that high is because i wanted it to be a surprise when you lower the lift

but i'll fix it

the reason of the broken textures is that i get tired very quickly of filling the broken textures 1 by 1

[haughty flower]

@crisp dragon fixed

[lusty dove]

Uhhhhhhhhj

Which renderer you use should have zero effect on the gameplay

Maybe it's a difference in ports

[haughty flower]

probably

dunno

[lusty dove]

What port are you using to test it?

[haughty flower]

prboom+ (dsda for demo recordings)

[lusty dove]

Ah cool

Make sure you do -complevel 2 when testing

To make sure it works on vanilla compatible ports

[haughty flower]

But i tested it on software renderer too before i fixed it and it worked fine for me

[haughty flower]

i made it in boom format

[lusty dove]

Ah

[haughty flower]

so i had to use complevel 9

[lusty dove]

Yeah that's fine

[haughty flower]

maybe coffeeguy used complevel 2

[lusty dove]

Probably not if the map uses boom features

[haughty flower]

i heard that if enemies are stuck in ceilings the floor doesn't move in vanilla

[lusty dove]

Huh

[haughty flower]

decino said it in his Arrival map32 video

or he said smth similar

[lusty dove]

Yeah I believe you that's just weird

Much stuff with this engine is

[haughty flower]

yeah, there is weird stuff going on with the engine sometimes

[north bear]

is there a vanilla way to make linedefs block only hitscan? I want to make a shootable switch that can only be activated when close to it and hitscan blocking linedefs seems ideal for that but i can't find a way to make one. i am using doom builder x

[haughty flower]

i think this is boom or udmf stuff

[runic breach]

played I am Sakuya: Touhou FPS Game today, a GZDoom engine game

not worth the 250 pesos on steam imo, but it was pretty fun

[timid flume]

https://youtu.be/04UE_pTbVFI

Geomancy is finally approaching completion with the tertiary fire now added

[onyx scroll]

well, the entire thing of a shootable switch is hitscan, I guess a cheapo solution to this is to put a small wall infront of the switch, put another linedef to lower/raise the wall, exposing the switch

I aint a mapper, so that's the best thing I could think of when it comes to vanilla

[north bear]

I guess i could try that, though i wanted to confuse the player a bit. Thanks anyways

[rough sequoia]

Hi. I've been playing hideous destructor for a bit. Not sure if it's just me being stupid but the standard rifles you find carried by some zombies just seem to not work after a bit. Like it'll use the one magazine it has and then not work again? I'm confused. Any help would be good.

[fringe stump]

Any recommendation of good Doom wads with alot of shooting and less navigating? Preferably if it goes well with brutal doom

[runic breach]

italo doom

tbh most slaughter-only wads have lots of shooting

[fringe stump]

thank you i will try out

[haughty flower]

oh not italo doom

map12 is a fucking exhausting map

[fringe stump]

what the fuck why is the spawn inside 20 archvilles and cyberdemons

[runic breach]

ya got this

[runic breach]

i'm recommending it half-jokingly tbh

[fringe stump]

I turn down the diffculty to hurt me plenty and I spawn in a deathroom

[grand token]

Try ITYTD.

[fringe stump]

same results

[crisp dragon]

Not gonna help with italo doom lul

[haughty flower]

bro im so lazy i literally boot up udb and then my whole mood goes away from mapping

[indigo totem]

anyone know how to change the secret revealed sound effect in the latest versions of prboom+ with umapinfo support?

i used to run an older build of prboom+ that used the quake sound effect and this newer one uses the multiplayer item respawning sound effect

[whole blade]

FYI the lowest difficulty replaces everything in map01 with cyberdemons

Italodoom is something else lol

If you want a better introduction to slaughter then New Gothic Movment 1 or Speed of Doom would be good starting points

Or Micro Slaughter Community Project

[grand token]

Oh god, seriously? That's amazing.

[lusty dove]

same

[fringe stump]

Just tried it out, it is much better

ty

[whole blade]

np

[runic breach]

or rush @fringe stump

[solar mica]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/135212-improvisation-no-guns-no-problem-gzdoom-gameplay-mod-version-07/?tab=comments#comment-2642188
new version of my mod, Improvisation, is out, yo.

[timid flume]

https://youtu.be/rt-Ho0vegVo
The nearly complete Bardiche for Walpurgis has all its fire modes now; including the new blood spikes secondary fire, which I think looks pretty cool.

[runic agate]

https://youtu.be/r0ubnw8gtNg

Does anyone know what mod he's using?

[haughty flower]

project brutality with mutators

[fringe stump]

very cool

[crisp dragon]

aren't the mods literally in the title?

[runic agate]

Nope

I already checked the description

[runic agate]

Yes I know that I mean the hud or something like that

[haughty flower]

Finally starting making my own DOOM II maps, wish me best

[solar mica]

thank!

[haughty flower]

gl

doom mapping is like a desert island

it takes a long time to master, but it absolutely rewards your effort and attention

[haughty flower]

definitely, i feel like im progressing a small bit but my perfectionism really takes the fun out of things for me

[lusty dove]

what is this logo?

its all over stuff in eviternity, i think it comes from the otex texture pack

is it just the otex logo?

[real sigil]

Starting off. Is it possible to build second floors in udb? I currently don’t see how I can without just placing a teleport to another map instead of one floor atop another

[haughty flower]

doom doesn't support room over room

you can make the feeling of room over room with silent teleporters, but it's fake ofcourse

[lusty dove]

as said here ^^^^^ the doom engine does not support this, however, certain map formats like zdoom or gzdoom support room over room so if you are okay with your map only being playable with zdoom derivative ports, then you could do it

it can also be done in eternity engine through seamless portal abuse but that is much more complicated to set up

[real sigil]

I saw the myhouse.wad have room over room, and I’m guessing it has to do with this add-on I keep seeing mentioned called udmf format. It seems to also be responsible for swinging doors. But anyways, I don’t want to get into all this mess with just my second map. Will check out new things after I get the hang of the basics

[lusty dove]

yeah myhouse uses zdoom

[lusty dove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rsLrwFlhME&pp=ygUPemRvb20gM2QgZmxvb3Jz

here is a tutorial on how to do it

[real sigil]

thanks

[charred wagon]

How do you get Russian Overkill to work? Is it compatible with GZDOOM? Or do I need a different source port?

[real sigil]

Followed the tutorial and was confused as heck why it didn’t work. Then I realized the vid was 11 years old. Then I realized I simply overlooked the 3d mode button in udb 💀

[whole blade]

Yeah it's just the otex logo. Ukiro made it because it looks cool c:

[lusty dove]

ah cool

[whole blade]

iirc it was meant to be the otex equivalent of the UAC. some faceless evil corp that had let the demons in (not specific to eviternity though)

[lusty dove]

yeah makes sense

[plucky sigil]

How to fix
Remake the entire doom engine in unity it something lol

[lusty dove]

why??

[plucky sigil]

Why not

[lusty dove]

because why

[plucky sigil]

Because funny

[lusty dove]

what would it allow you to do that you cant already do in gzdoom

[plucky sigil]

Idk anything about doom modding

[real sigil]

There’s a 3d mode button. Problem solved

I feel the power already

The novelty of using the doom engine is building something not with the new stuff. I suppose just using unity would ruin that

I myself have never touched unity or any of the normal stuff yet. Will in the future but doing this goofy ah plan of learning from the ground up. Why? Cause interesting

Technically not fully from the ground up cause obviously modern modding is way easier than it used to be

[plucky sigil]

Bruh it was joke you don’t have to write entire paragraph

I will now go back to playing Wolfenstein 3-D

[real sigil]

I was just talking cause I just talk sometimes

I’ve been playing that game every other day

[main trench]

https://youtu.be/5wAo54DHDY0 theres more to my house than you know. If any of you play it. Keep the dog alive for the true ending i dont know if its been shown here but if it hasn't then watch this to the end. If it has then theres more to the map than people on the gaming news outlets let on its inspirations are accurate but they barely scratch the surface of the story being told.

[trail lion]

I took 30-40 mins to complete it, it was uncanny but I loved it

[rapid zenith]

Quite funny how it plays a discord notif sound every 10 minutes or so. Also how the music gets slightly off if you spend enough time in the map. I got the ending where ||the house disappears||. And watched the other endings.

[lost flame]

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/132011-gregs-gargantuan-gadventure-of-glory-gaffes-and-garbage-v036-now-with-more-particles-than-the-fucking-beach/

[haughty flower]

I will challenge any of you to speedrun this hoe on ultra violence

[trail lion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkSDntFa1Gk

[solar brook]

whu

OS: Microsoft Windows 11 Pro
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060
UDB: R4049
Platform: x64

********EXCEPTION DETAILS********
The given key was not present in the dictionary.
   at System.ThrowHelper.ThrowKeyNotFoundException()
   at System.Collections.Generic.Dictionary`2.get_Item(TKey key)
   at CodeImp.DoomBuilder.VisualModes.VisualMode.DoCulling() in c:\build\UltimateDoomBuilder\Source\Core\VisualModes\VisualMode.cs:line 659
   at CodeImp.DoomBuilder.VisualModes.VisualMode.OnProcess(Int64 deltatime) in c:\build\UltimateDoomBuilder\Source\Core\VisualModes\VisualMode.cs:line 1345
   at CodeImp.DoomBuilder.BuilderModes.BaseVisualMode.OnProcess(Int64 deltatime) in c:\build\UltimateDoomBuilder\Source\Plugins\BuilderModes\VisualModes\BaseVisualMode.cs:line 1583
   at CodeImp.DoomBuilder.Windows.MainForm.processor_Tick(Object sender, EventArgs e) in c:\build\UltimateDoomBuilder\Source\Core\Windows\MainForm.cs:line 4677
   at System.Windows.Forms.Timer.OnTick(EventArgs e)
   at System.Windows.Forms.Timer.TimerNativeWindow.WndProc(Message& m)
   at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)```

[whole blade]

What were you doing when you casied the crash?

[solar brook]

First time running UDB after a fresh windows install.
Was going into 3D view and boom. This popped up.
Hope it was just a fluke

[pearl glen]

is it possible to replace the wad in doom64 with

not doom64

[haughty flower]

uhh

ive got a question, what wads do i need cause i have both doom 1 and doom 2 on steam (for modding), are there any other ones i should get

[lusty dove]

You don’t need any others for modding

Unless you specifically want to make a tnt or plutonia themed wad with the textures from those wads, in which case you can get them by downloading them as addons in steam doom 2 and then getting them from the game files

Or actually I think these days final doom comes for free with steam doom 2 in which case you can just download that and get them there

[haughty flower]

oh alright

[haughty flower]

3d floors = not doom

[solar brook]

what does 3d floors have to do with anything?!

[haughty flower]

it creates room over room

in doom

[solar brook]

yes thank you i know that, but why do you talk about 3D floors in reply of my crashlog?!

[haughty flower]

sry i misreaded

i thought you wanted to create 3d floors

[next ruin]

Things like TotalChaos might be more technologically different, but MyHouse just has to be the peak of whats possible when geniuses mod doom. Will likely never happen, but would LOVE to see a behind the scenes with the creator(s)

[whole blade]

if it happens again feel free to ping me. there aren't many things that consistently cause a crash in 3d view mode

[solar brook]

Cheers! Appreciate it :)

[whole blade]

the hundreds/thousands of doom wads with 3d floors would like a word with you

np

if it's something weird you'll probably have to ask in the UDB discord

[solar brook]

I tried recreating the bug immediately after but wasnt able to reproduce it.
Maybe some bug because i just setup UDB

[next ruin]

Anyone know of mods that are similar to myhouse? Loved that experience and want MOREEE

[whole blade]

That's pretty unique

There's not really anything like it tbh

[next ruin]

I dont mean the trippy nature I mean like the single long level with objectives and stuff

[light saddle]

Has anyone here played the myhouse mod?

[undone summit]

heya, don't know if this is the best server for solely Doom wad mapping for classic Doom

[undone summit]

ye

[runic breach]

maybe they meant it's not boom

[lusty dove]

Why is everybody talking about this mod right now

[runic breach]

went big on yt because people love those kind of mods

[supple oriole]

does anybody know of any maps that have puzzles? if not, any ones with odd/surreal visuals?

[runic breach]

lilith.pk3

the magenta spire

[next ruin]

yes

[next ruin]

because its unbelievable

[undone summit]

it's a beautiful wad tbh, with its connections to House of Leaves its pretty cool

[pliant plume]

you guys got any tips on settings that might make heavily intensive maps/pk3s run a bit better on, say, gzdoom for a, say, very large map with many many portals and lots of unique content?

[icy compass]

Honestly nothing on that note will ever beat just wisely investing in more powerful hardware

[pliant plume]

damn, was hoping i could at least try to play myhouse on my laptop. guess i oughta just stick to my pc for it

god it is such a cool mod but i am horrible at remembering/exploring so it's way more hard than it should be lol

... i should try it with bring your own class

[runic breach]

lower your resolution a lot

turn off postprocessing and any sort of texture filtering/upscaling, along with anisotropic filters and mipmap

switch to vulkan or openGL ES (most important bit)

[tranquil echo]

Hi I am trying to mod doom 2 and I keep getting script errors any help is appreciated

[grand token]

What's the error?

[neon steppe]

i just had a stupid idea to create a map with all the walls being the texture F_SKY the only thing that will help you get to places is the map, the corpses on the floor, doors etc.

i made this in like 20 mins just for fun so the enemy placement kinda sucks

[onyx scroll]

there is not script errors here, these are just files

[next ruin]

how far did you get

well ok but theres 4 endings and the first endings leaves out like 6 areas

did you get the burned house ending?

oh yeah my friend thats like 1/3 of the whole thing

if you dont want to go through the migraine of doing the whole thing watch the MyHouse vid by PowerPak he goes through all the playthrough and the secrets and story and whatever

its as long as a movie but its worth it if you're into the map

[knotty fable]

Watching vinny’s stream is nice also
He gets like the second-best ending and it’s incredibly fun to watch

[haughty flower]

i may have to dump my whole map01 in my wad

btw, guys, do you have some good names for a quiet and slow and atmospheric map, like scythe 2 map29?

[runic breach]

usually agreed to be ultimate doombuilder

[urban thicket]

im gonna play myhouse.wad

wait i have a idea

brutal freedoom or lawnmower doom

ok

imma just hope this works

lol

time for the big show

its not working

maybe i need the pk3

or mabye i need to switch to gzdoom

[urban thicket]

Shrek

He got mad

[neon steppe]

hell yeah, iam done with another doom map today, this is my 6th ever doom map and iam kinda proud of it ngl

[next ruin]

bing chilling?

[haughty flower]

udb

[haughty flower]

i created one myself

[royal wave]

MyHouse.wad is best played without anything supplemental

Be wary of just smashing a bajillion mods together. It’s not how mods work with Doom, and you’ll increase the odds of nothing working

[neon steppe]

ty :>

[urban thicket]

It's best played with doom mower

Also I figured it out

I was on the wrong difficulty

Doesn't matter rn

Playing club penguin

[analog valve]

Anyone see that new mod called My House?

[urban thicket]

Yes

It's so popular

[next ruin]

where have you been lmao

[analog valve]

I only saw the video talking about it

[next ruin]

try it out

[winter thorn]

I need maps that work well with treasure tech
also what are some good gameplay mods that add new weapons and enemies and work well with most megawads

[runic breach]

supercharge

[knotty fable]

Yeah I liked the part with the house

[winter thorn]

which question are you answering

[runic breach]

latter

sorry, i thought those were two messages lol

[urban thicket]

i reccomend playing myhouse.wad with doom mower

[haughty flower]

...

[urban thicket]

is there like a brutal doom

with more brutal

[raw idol]

Am I allowed to share download files? I have a map really worth a try, it's where you are the demon and you fight the Doom marines.

EMPATHY, This isn't mod my btw, I'm not sure who made it. Basically you play as a demon and you fight Doomguy. Lot of content in it, worth a try. If you're using GZDoom just drag the file over the GZ icon pinned to you taskbar. This was shared to me by Awh awh awh last night.

[raw idol]

Well what's it actually about?

[urban thicket]

i need brutal doom with more brutal

[raw idol]

Just look up some mods ig??? If you want a more brutal Doom, then the best option is just Eternal.

[urban thicket]

ok

[raw idol]

Oh I found a mod for you.

[runic breach]

what do you mean by more "brutal"

do you want the gore to fill up your entire screen or something

[raw idol]

Ig he does

[winter thorn]

working on making my own game but basing it off of doom resources (code remains, the sprites, enemies, story, music, and textures change) and I was looking at trying to do a shell ejection thing, like where you fire the pistol or shotgun and a shell flies out with the pump animation or racking, anyone know of a mod I could mess with for that or how to do so?

[pliant plume]

Project Brutality, it's on page 1 of Doom 2 on moddb lol

Would it be possible for someone to remove the noclip protection on Myhouse?

[haughty flower]

i already created a name

[slender forge]

(sorry for the long paragraph) I’ve been trying to play the “myhouse.wad” map, but, im not sure this is because I’ve done something wrong or because I use Steam Deck/Linux, it doesn’t work. I’ve followed all the instructions I’ve seen (such as installing GZDoom, putting the doom WADs into it and dragging my pk3 file into it) but all it does is load up Doom 2 normally. If anyone can help me with this I’d greatly appreciate it :-)

[sterile schooner]

Can you do what you just did again and start a campaign? I want to see if you end up in Entryway. Make sure to pull up your automap too.

[raw idol]

Same problem happened to me, I can't even put myhouse in.

Anybody have any good standalone gzdoom mod suggestions?

[slender forge]

if you dont get what i mean due to my atrocious spelling then heres a video of what im talking about

[solar brook]

SteamDeck detected

[slender forge]

SteamDeck detected

[runic breach]

dusted's pandemonia

[haughty flower]

i have mood now to create doom maps

but i'm not at home and this laptop can't run UDB, it makes some errors

and i hate using Doom Builder X

[raw idol]

Really good mod, thanks for recommending

[runic breach]

welcome

[raw idol]

Just wanted to share this mod incase anybody else wanted it. Really cool, basically reworks classic Doom with new weapons, enemies, and new gore physics.

[faint wren]

everyone is talking abt myhouse.wad but what abt do_not_play.wad

[raw idol]

myhouse.wad ain’t really that freaky just kinda slow and hard

[raw idol]

Any gzdoom mod suggestions?

[surreal swan]

I just beat MyHouse.wad and got the true(?) Ending. Anyone have some other mods that are similar that they really enjoyed?

[pearl glen]

hey

[pearl glen]

😱

[surreal swan]

Holy shit

[pearl glen]

ive been getting into modding doom, ive been combining mods together and i know how to change things to get them to work and combinging them works fine but i am working on combining myhouse with abort m, it works perfectly except the height is default and not as tall as it should be

any help?

[pearl glen]

well yes, but actually no

[runic breach]

project malice

you can play myhouse using delta touch

[haughty flower]

I've replayed the sigil maps i've played not too long ago, it's very interesting that romero can create tough maps with not too much monsters

like 50-80 or 90

it makes me want to create something like it, and i will because i'm at home and i can use UDB

[haughty flower]

toxic touch

[haughty flower]

It says do not play. That means play it.

[timid flume]

https://youtu.be/_O-SyqgCAIc

[raw idol]

I’ll check it out

[timid flume]

https://forum.zdoom.org/viewtopic.php?t=67025

[halcyon rover]

Hey has anyone played my house.wad

[pearl glen]

No, what is that?

[halcyon rover]

Its a wacky map made by some guys friend and when he died his parents gave his best friend a 3 inch floppy that contained his friends house and he made some tweaks and memorabilia to his time with him

[pearl glen]

Wow! Sounds interesting!

[halcyon rover]

I'm going to try and find it on gz doom on my computer and see if it can handle it

[pearl glen]

go into dms, let me teach you how to set it up

[hallow warren]

TEASER OUT!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpKzazQu1Ak

[trail lion]

Horror doom mod coming at end of the month : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXDgrw3pV00

[vapid eagle]

played it a few days ago, i was confused 2 mins in

really mind boggling experience

[haughty flower]

my fucking god i can't wait for it to fall out of the mainstream

[pearl glen]

rude smh

[vapid eagle]

Semi agree tbh but i think it deserves the hype

[haughty flower]

Uhh...

[runic breach]

it's just insane how popular the mod is getting and people will inevitably find that annoying, and it's probably because its popularity is getting people into doom mods instead of doom

[grand token]

I think the popularity will eventually blow over and a significant number of people will remain in the community.

Not sure how many of them will integrate into the rest of the mapping community and how many will stick to GZDoom mods though.

[runic breach]

yeah, this is the thing

[haughty flower]

you said that it will fall out of the mainstream in 3 weeks or 1 month

wads will always remain more popular than mods, because they are easier to make and it just changes the maps

of course, there are some wads like heretic and stuff, but they change so many game mechanics they are considered mods (in my opinion) for example heartland is not heartland.wad, it's heartland.pk3

same with myhouse or lilith

[stuck kite]

im honestly glad myhouse.wad is getting so popular, it really deserves it since there was clearly an INSANE amount of time and effort put into it

[hallow warren]

THE DEMO IS OUT!
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/136073-doom-32x-evil-reincarnate-demo-release-thread/

[whole blade]

You speak like these things are mutually exclusive

Getting into any part of the doom community is good for the whole community

Every time a new doom game is released there is a massive uptick in new doom wads being made. My house will most likely have the same kind of impact (albeit a briefer spike)

[upbeat path]

https://youtu.be/ilnrSec8yYw

[pearl glen]

oh true, fnf sucked ass due to this same thing

[upbeat path]

also as someone who has played a LOT of Doom in their lifetime (and got into it due to mods) - it's hard to tell who will stick around and who won't. there's no real "tell".

sometimes, the popular thing is popular for a good reason!

[runic breach]

yes

imo the positive aspect of myhouse is the people getting back into doom, i've noticed lots of people go back to doom after the wad

[pearl glen]

ok im getting pissed rn

how do i combine a pwad with an iwad "why would you do that" 64doom https://github.com/jnmartin84/64doom

[noble pike]

?

[pearl glen]

i want to combined a pwad with an iwad so i can run a mod in 64doom

wtf chatgpt helped me fr

[noble pike]

(0) \ (0)

[haughty flower]

you can use ZDL or other launchers

[pearl glen]

nah i figured it out

nevermind

[grand token]

Oh, I don't mean to imply it's a bad thing per se. It's just that there's a significant portion of the GZDoom modding community that seems to stay away of the rest of the mapping community. At least that's what I've personally observed.

No question community growth of any variety is desirable right now.

[haughty flower]

Possible but almost impossible map. Also play on ultra violence or hurt me plenty.

[urban mist]

I remember I got this wad from a youtube video showcasing brutal doom with some endless survival mod. Now that I seach this wad up I get nothing. Anybody seen this wad before?

[fading peak]

soohm modding

anyways uh hi doom mapping community

im new here 😄

[fading peak]

why is making this map fun

why am i having fun

i didnt know drawing 2d boxes would be so fun

[jolly mural]

hi guys

[fading peak]

hi

[fleet sonnet]

hi

[fading peak]

guess what

[fading peak]

good map 20/7.35

[haughty flower]

i want to kill myself when i see that fucking amogus

[fading peak]

i turned it into a secret

[fluid cave]

making my first doom 2 map that im planning on eventually sharing, other than here, are there any good places to share said map?

also, thoughts on using itch.io to share it

or at least archive it

[whole blade]

you can't

[pearl glen]

why

i can do it manually for every file but i dont wanna

[whole blade]

iwad = standalone entity
pwad = data pack that requires an iwad

they're mutually exclusive concepts. either you make an iwad, or you make a pwad

also iwad's are usually commercial. combining commercial assets into your pwad is a good way to get bodied

[pearl glen]

i know, i want to combine a pwad with freedoom so i can turn it inso a 64doom (not doom64) rom

the file structure is identical

[lusty dove]

Ehh people probably won’t find it there, you should share it on doomworld

Many people will play it and give you feedback in the comments that can help you improve it or make better ones next time

There is a section specifically for posting maps that have been made

[fading peak]

use doomworld

[fading peak]

uh anyways

[novel vessel]

even though doom mods is how the game stayed relevant but go off

not even doom, modding a game boosts its lifespan dramatically, which boggles my mind that bethesda isn't letting id publish modding tools for eternal or 2016, given that skyrim is extremely popular and is still played because mods heavily contributed to it

[fading peak]

my pc restarted out of nowhere but

i didnt save it before that happened

so i have to start mapping it again

[runic breach]

did i ever say the mods aren't keeping the game relevant

i play modded more than i play vanilla

the thing is that some vanilla-centric players are going to find its popularity annoying because it'll be getting people into gz mods instead of the usual vanilla wads

not to mention that the vast majority of doom mods run on an engine that's already basically a remastered version of doom

[haughty flower]

🤮 mouselook

[fading peak]

whats wrong with mouselook

[haughty flower]

it breaks the way doom supposed to be played, you can reach things you're not supposed to, some people even consider it cheating including me

[fading peak]

well i dont

[runic breach]

...it's their own map

[haughty flower]

ikr i just said

[runic breach]

let em make a mouselook-friendly map if they wanna

only shame mouselook if they're using it in a non-gz wad

[haughty flower]

yes

[lusty dove]

There is a reason 2016 didn’t have a map editor. It uses something called megatextures where all of the lighting and textures and other data for a map is baked into one giant texture. This generating process requires a renderfarm to run in any reasonable amount of time, so it’s just not feasible for someone working at home to make a map. For eternal, it would have been more possible, and they even said that they were working on it, however covid screwed everything up and they weren’t able to get it done

So it’s not that Bethesda wasn’t letting them

There were other reasons

[lusty dove]

Do maps that use otex tend to just have the entire texture pack included, or do they include just the parts that they use

[whole blade]

Its considered good practice to only include the textures used in your map

[lusty dove]

ok

[whole blade]

I've you're using like, half of otex though I wouldn't bother

[lusty dove]

is there an easy way to do that with otex? or do you just need to go through and figure out precisely which ones you use

[whole blade]

Udb can organize textures by if they're used

There's a flag in the texture viewer

SLADE also has a remove unused textures function but it doesn't work on pk3s, and will break animated textures (because technically the rest of the textures in the animation aren't 'used' in the map)

[lusty dove]

well im not using pk3s so i could do the slade thing and then just fix the animated textures

[whole blade]

one trick is to make a dummy room in your map with each animation frame

so slade detects them

not hard to do, just takes a bit of time

[lusty dove]

makes sense

[whole blade]

yeah it's a workable solution

[lusty dove]

someone should make a map that you can download and save to your wad as map33 that has every animated texture in otex

[whole blade]

i know of a few custom unused texture culling programs floating around

but i can't remember where i saw them

lol

not a bad idea

[austere moon]

i do be playing myhouse.wad

[frozen coyote]

is myhouse.wad harder on lower difficultys

[lusty dove]

if you use a conveyor belt to chuck a collectable like ammo or health over a teleport linedef will it teleport?

[lusty dove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/941062534092447794/1112510493341532292/image.png

is this too minecraft? like in its blockyness

[runic breach]

it's very minecraft, that's for sure

[lusty dove]

is it enough that i should get rid of it?

[runic breach]

eh, not really

you could make the slots and blocks more frequent

[lusty dove]

ah ye maybe

[lusty dove]

how do you know which way is forward for a linedef

like in terms of conveyors

[knotty fable]

is Ultimate Doom Builder this complicated normally or am I just missing an obvious mistake I made
I can’t make a door move
Got a UDMF format file for GZDOOM, I have a hexagonal room with one side leading to a “door” that leads to a square empty room
Only thing in the file is the playerstart
The door sector has a door close wait open special on both linedefs, set to repeatable and to activate whenever the player interacts
They are both tagged with 1 and have the sector tag part of the special set to 1
They are 16 blocks wide and 128 blocks long
Can anyone help? Been working on this for half an hour
I have the script set to Zdoom script, and I have a DoomII wad and Gzdoom.pk3 as resources
I did have fun though, I’ll probably use doombuilder from time to time (way more fun than learning hammer)
I’d add more detail (and a few screenshots too) but I’m away from my pc right now, so sorry about that

[lusty dove]

are the linedefs that activate the door facing out?

you can tell which way they are facing by the little line coming out of them

you will only be able to press the switch if they are facing out

also what is the name of the exact linedef special you are using?

[knotty fable]

Door close open wait I believe
Doesn’t it play the can’t interact sound when the linedefs don’t match up?
What was weird was, I heard the door opening, but it didn’t open

[lusty dove]

huh

maybe a weird gzdoom thing, i only map for boom and mbf

[knotty fable]

Weird
I’ll take a look at it tomorrow
Weird thing is I’ve seen so many examples that do pretty much exactly what I did but it works for them

[pliant plume]

Could I just get a quick rundown on the differences between UDB and DBX? I'm really just interested in making maps for Boom/MBF stuff

[lusty dove]

ive never used DBX but udb works great for boom/mbf stuff

can somebody please playtest the start of my map? I want some feedback on the first couple of encounters. it is gonna be a MAP01 so its not too difficult. Once you teleport you are done. it should work on any port that supports umapinfo and boom, but later it will require mbf21.

the enemy placements are the same on all difficulties and the ones that are there currently are gonna be the ultraviolence placements. il add the other difficulties later

ok the teleporters dont work for some reason so it will just be when you step on a teleporter

[novel vessel]

thought it was an old roblox map lol

[timid flume]

https://youtu.be/hxyYkByZl9A

[runic breach]

how do source port devs make sure their source port is completely accurate to vanilla? is there a doom standard out there?

[lusty dove]

do impassable lines block sound propagation?

[proper briar]

I just started modding doom, Doom 2. gzdoom, zdl casual stuff, I downloaded project brutality but I have no idea what maps and other mods to download can anybody help out with some suggestions for a noob?

[lusty dove]

not using udmf

but im using mbf21 and there was a block sound option

maybe it was added in boom? mbf21 doesnt really add stuff like that i dont think

yeah i just checked was not added by mbf21

just adding onto what i said

i just checked, this is a thing in vanilla

well its there

lol

in ultimate doom builder is there a quick way to select only the outer lines of this shape and not the inner ones?

i need to do this for like 8 of these, and i would rather not just click all of the lines, bc i tried that already and missclicked on the last line, deselecting all of them

[stoic lily]

i know this is for modding, not mapping, but im remaking the doom status bar face sprites, but the problem is i want to look good but i dont know how to shade it

if this is the wrong channel sorry

but uh, help me

[proper briar]

isnt the channels name maps, mods?

[stoic lily]

oh yeah

didnt see that

[proper briar]

like is that a diffirient map? sorry Im a noob Im just looking for advice on mods to play I might say stupid stuff

[stoic lily]

but uh, i need help with shading

[proper briar]

I dont know anymore than you do

[lusty dove]

that seems more like a pixelart question than a doom question

[stoic lily]

yeah but this is a doom server so idk

[lusty dove]

yeah im pretty bad at art but you could probably look up a tutorial for pixelart or pixelart shading

there are tons of those

[stoic lily]

yeah was just about to do that

[stoic lily]

did a little bit and finished the rest and all i have to say is.... shregsy

upscaled so you can see better

not doom like but its epic

[whole blade]

flood select in 3d mode and then switch back to 2d view. you'll need to have the option flagged on for selections to stay in between modes

it's in the config menu (F5)

[lusty dove]

should i be able to beat my own map without any saves?

im a mediocre player but i want to make decently challenging maps

[runic breach]

well, duh

by the standard i mean do we have a documented list of things a source port should do to have vanilla compatibility

i could've sworn i read something like that awhile back

[whole blade]

i wouldn't worry about that specfically

i don't know anyone who sets that bar for their own maps (outside of crazy skilled players like zzul)

i've never beaten any of my major releases saveless

[unborn mica]

how do I play with friends?

[lusty dove]

source ports like odamex and zandronum have very good multiplayer code

are you playing with them over the internet or will you be on the same wifi as them

[unborn mica]

over the internet

[lusty dove]

ok so that is slightly more complicated to setup bc the host needs to port forward but you can find tutorials for that online

or you guys could just find an existing server and join that

[unborn mica]

ok thanks

[regal radish]

question can i get brutal doom working on the pc gamepass version of doom?

[lusty dove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/941062534092447794/1112910159673565204/image.png

is it clear enough that that wooden thing is a lift?

[whole blade]

Easiest way is as follows
Get Doom Explorer for server searching
Get zandronum to play
Get TSPG account set up which will allow you to host your own servers (free, account usually gets approved in a couple hours, incredibly stable servers)
????
Profit

[whole blade]

If you've established that texture ad a common lift texture then possibly, but my general rule for lifts is have them activated by an obvious switch

Or a walk over trigger that the player will easily hit

[unborn mica]

ok

[lusty dove]

Yeah that’s probably a good idea

That’s gonna be the first sight of the whole wad so it’s not gonna be established at all

[whole blade]

the other way to do it is to make it clearer with the geometry and item placement

recessing the lift into the wall (both into the wall and from the floor above) helps make it a point of interest. you can add to this by placing something like torches either side

then you could place some items on top of the lift to make it clear the player is meant to get up there

otex also has some animated arrow textures, although that might clash with your current aesthetic

you could also have some shallow stairs or a raised landing leading up to the lift

essentially you want to find a way to make it stand out as a point of interest for the player. if it gets noticed it's highly likely the player will then interact with the surroundings

looks like oyu do already have a small raised landing in front of it (good)

but the easiest way is with an obvious switch

[lusty dove]

Thank you for your suggestions

[whole blade]

No worries

[ornate sundial]

uh

quick question, never played any custom maps but this one caught my attention, how do i play the myhouse wad?

[pliant plume]

download gzdoom, gather the doom2.wad file, drag doom2.wad and your downloaded myhouse.pk3 (https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/134292-myhousewad/), you must use myhouse.pk3, onto the gzdoom executable

[gaunt cave]

STOP POSTING ABOUT MY HOUSE WAD

[ornate sundial]

👍

[solar brook]

NEVER

[fading peak]

nah

anyways ive come up with a revolutionary breakthrough in sound design

i present to you

the goofy shotgun

what are the player hurt/death sounds called again?

[whole blade]

people still talk about memento mori

a wad made in 1996

[lusty dove]

Not to the point where people outside of the doom community know about it tho

[whole blade]

my point was people will talk about anything forever

[lusty dove]

Yeah

[whole blade]

so myhouse will most certainly continue to be discussed for a very long time

at least within the doom community

[lusty dove]

are ammo pickups based on the entity id or the sprite name

[whole blade]

actor name

[lusty dove]

actor name?

so like, this thing?

[whole blade]

what are you actually trying to do? and in what port

[lusty dove]

im in mbf21 and im trying to make the shotgun be the slot 2 starting weapon

and thats easy enough to do, just swap it for the pistol. the issue is that you can only start with bullets

so i would need to make bullets into shells, and shells into bullets

[lusty dove]

essentially i want it to work on woof

[lusty dove]

ah yeah not using zdoom

[knotty fable]

Ok so uh
How do you make it so switches activate things?
Like I already made a switch with door_generic (Using Gzdoom format) connected to it’s sector tag
Hell I even hear the door opening but it doesn’t
I did this exactly the same but without using a switch on another door, and it ended up fine
ok turns out I had decorative door walls as a sector with the ceilling set to 0 which made the door not move, I fixed it by setting it to regular ceilling height and putting the floor all the way up

[lusty dove]

is what im trying to do possible?

[whole blade]

Yeah that should be pretty straight forward for mbf21

Especially if you use decohack

[lusty dove]

ok

[lusty dove]

what is decohack, ive heard of it but dont really know what it is

[whole blade]

It's a dehacked code writer that uses decorate like states

A tool created by Mtrop

Very handy

[lusty dove]

wdym decorate like states

ive never used decorate

[whole blade]

it's just a different structure to dehacked, but generally easier to work with

[lusty dove]

Can it run on any mbf21 port?

[whole blade]

decorate is zdoom ports only

well not only, eternity supports a variation of it

but mbf21 goes with dehacked

specifcally allowed more code pointers so you can do more with dehacked. in non mbf21 you're limited to the same number of code pointers as the original doom

which is why in boom/vanilla mods anything new replaces an existing actor. you can't just make something new and drop it in

[lusty dove]

No I meant decohack

[lusty dove]

Isn’t eternity’s one a bit different? It’s called EDF or smthn

[runic breach]

the "stop posting" thing is a reference to the "stop posting about among us" meme

[haughty flower]

yo i got a problem with slade
whenever im trying to import my custom texture (specifically when i try to "import from base resource archive") into my wad, it always gives me an error saying that i have no base resource archive even though i already put one

[whole blade]

decohack is a program that you use to write dehacked or convert decorate into dehacked

[whole blade]

yeah something like that

informaiton about decohack lies herein (and other very useful tools)
https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/119605-mtrops-doom-tools-update-dmxconv-dimgconv-decohack-doommake/

[lusty dove]

Ahhh I see

[frosty sorrel]

Test

[royal turret]

man I can't even consider making a 32 map megawad let alone a single pwad

[lusty dove]

i want to make a full megawad but i probably wont be able to do it

bc making just one map takes me forever

[lusty dove]

@whole blade what is the answer to this question when talking about mbf21 and not zdoom

[whole blade]

it's not the sprite name. the sprite names are usually a random assortment of letters

are you talking about the spawn id #?

but regardless, it's always the actor name

[lusty dove]

But what does actor name mean in terms of dehacked

[whole blade]

whatever the actor is called

if you open up the properties of a thing in UDB it has the actor code name in the bottom left

but i've never used dehacked

[lusty dove]

in non-zdoom it is grayed out which makes me think that actor code name is a zdoom only thing

[haughty flower]

Hi guys

I'm finally getting the hang of making doom wads

just made my first one

[knotty fable]

holy shit doom wads are so much fun

Oh my god my love for ultimate doom builder only grows stronger
Just made my first “big” combat encounter
I like how when you’re making a door, you can change each side to have different locks (eg front side could need nothing to go in, back side would need blue card to reopen)
At least in the UDMF (might’ve misspelled it, but it’s the gzdoom one) format
That and convenient autosaves are so much fun
I’ll probably post my first level in here when I’m done (like about 1/4 of the way through?)

[trail lion]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/the-hotel-lost-contact/downloads/the-hotel-lost-contact-v45

[pearl glen]

hey

[loud wedge]

This is the starting room of my map I’m making

I still need to figure out how to make that thing in the middle a teleport. Basically this map is going to start you out inside of the head of a mech or some kind of ship (I haven’t decided which yet) and the teleport will bring you to a UAC base that’s been overrun

Those red glowing panels are supposed to be windows

[haughty flower]

How do you make a custom title screen?

[neon steppe]

you have to import an image into your wad using slade and name it "TITLEPIC" the titlepic from doom II is 320x200 pixel in size

[haughty flower]

did that.

[neon steppe]

alr

[haughty flower]

it worked

[haughty flower]

now, how do I add credits in my doom wad, same size as titlepic?

[haughty flower]

nevermind I got that too

[haughty flower]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcnJNiUc-7I

I want to mod slayer into nostalgia critic but how do i do that?

[haughty flower]

anyone know how to make hand sprites?

or replace slayer with a custom sprite?

[lusty dove]

Cool!

[sterile notch]

i tried opening slumpEd and this happened

[lusty dove]

Slumped is old and outdated, you should try using Slade 3. It has all of the same features and more and is being actively updated

This issue is probably bc that program was made for an older version of windows or smthn

[sterile notch]

k thanks

[sterile notch]

also is there a tutorial for it

[lusty dove]

Probably

[haughty flower]

Can you distribute custom wads?

for free?

...

[haughty flower]

I just want to know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcDz-1SMeQg

[knotty fable]

I don't see how you wouldn't be able to

[lusty dove]

how do you make a teleport closet with cacodemons

conveyor belts do not move them

[knotty fable]

isn't there like a wind function for sectors

[lusty dove]

maybe ive never used that

im in mbf21 format btw

[knotty fable]

oh
yeah udmf format here

[lusty dove]

mbf21 is basically boom with a ton of extra dehacked stuff

but the map format itself is identical except like a couple extra line and floor specials

it does seem like boom has wind tho

[runic breach]

that's literally what the doom community has thrived upon for the last ~30 years

why would you not be able to distribute custom wads

[knotty fable]

what are teleport closets for?
is it like randomizing the position of the enemy each run

[lusty dove]

custom wads do not contain the original game assets, they are simply patches (pwads) that apply changes to the base game wads (iwads)

therefore you still need to have the original game wad to play a custom one, which is why you can distribute them for free

[knotty fable]

Is there any way I could make enemies that only spawn when I pick up a keycard (Maybe like walls with enemies inside them that open up when I grab it) Might need to do some Zscript but I’m just wondering if it’s possible at all

I also had this idea of adding a portal to an area that’s exactly the same, but there are new monsters inside eventually leading to another portal leading to the original exit, but I think I should try some simpler workarounds first

[runic breach]

like romhacks basically

[lusty dove]

yeah pretty much

[knotty fable]

Also uh
Anyone?

[lusty dove]

if you put walk triggers around the keycard you can make pretty much whatever happen when you collect it

the two easiest ways would be to have it be a walk over linedef that opens a door either that just opens walls where the monsters are or activates a teleport closet

if you dont know what a teleport closet is its when you have a room in the void where there is a conveyor belt floor and a monster on it, and a door in the monsters way, and a teleport linedef behind it so when the door opens the monster goes over the teleporter

doors opening with monsters is easier, teleport closet is fancier

walk triggers are just linedefs that open a door or do smthn else when you walk over them

[knotty fable]

Oh yeah that’s smart I’ll try that
Thank you
I know what walk triggers are don’t worry

[lusty dove]

cool

[haughty flower]

I used WhackEd and Sladed to replace the graphics of the pistol

with nostalgia critic's hands

[haughty flower]

https://youtu.be/JLRI3VD069s

[haughty flower]

What happens if I delete the dehacked file in slade and start new?

will it be borked?

[haughty flower]

I did it and no, nothing bad happened

[random matrix]

I'm looking for a gibs mod that allowed you to customize the type of gibs you could have.Anyone knows what it was called? One of the types of gibs was the Half Life one

[upper bloom]

I have a question, how do I make a wad in slade 3 with custom textures that are high res compared to the original graphics. I tried HI_START and HI_END, but then the placeholder graphics would spawn (the rectangle with the !). Just putting them in as they are doesn't work either, because they appear way to large in game. I tried changing the scale with xscale and yscale, but that didn't change anything either. Anyone know a resolution?

[haughty flower]

Note, this is intended to be a joke from the Nostalgia Critic show https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajshz2CecBU

[haughty flower]

how do you put voice acting in a pk3 file?

[haughty flower]

where am i gonna put in the id software logo in my wad
?

[haughty flower]

people can mod doom into half life 3
i bet

found it

https://www.moddb.com/mods/half-life-zdoom

[knotty fable]

shit uh how do I make a conveyor belt floor? Wind apparently doesn't work, Scroll is just decorative, I have no idea what carry is supposed to do, and there's no conveyor floor option I can see
Again, UDMF format

[knotty fable]

ok now I'm even more confused
so what I did worked, but the enemies only get affected by it when they see the player

Fair
I’m using a scroll linedef special and that works, but uh now the enemies aren’t actually getting dragged until I come in and activate them with noclip
I believe ambush players is off, but I’ll check
If you have the answer for this please @ me because I really don’t wanna have to repeatedly check discord

It’s off
Uh now what

[knotty fable]

ok so uh
is there any way to make gzdoom save your settings when you're playing it to test doom builder maps? For some reason it keeps putting me at the wrong resolution

[real sigil]

How do I fill in the empty sector? Whenever I draw certain new sectors, it automatically deletes the surrounding one

[knotty fable]

I just learned how to set up MAPINFO and I feel like a god

[knotty fable]

made a "demo" for my first wad! (Meant for GZDOOM, comes with a few auto-save spots right now, will probably include portals somewhere later)
I'm actually have like 1/3rd of the level finished but I added in the exit early so I can get people to play
what do you think?
enemy placement is currently the same on every difficulty (which by the way isn't really based on any of the doom difficulties, but rather just being enjoyable enough while also being somewhat challenging)
ending text is a funny
One last thing: the exit (to the right) doesn't actually need a blue key (that's on me, I'll fix it for the final release), you're supposed to get it by going to the left and back

so uh yeah I'd appreciate some feedback
Like uh, are there too many enemies? Too little enemies
should I give the player more guns for now
did I mess up on anything

[elder merlin]

There is a small error with a wall where there are enemies behind, because that wall does nothing
Leaving that aside, the map is very good.

[knotty fable]

yooo
thank you
wall with enemies behind? I'll look for that

[knotty fable]

ooooh
I think you might be referring to the teleport closets
the enemies there end up teleporting to the main area later on

[little sand]

Hey

Can I get mods on switch

[knotty fable]

those two squares connected by tubes are an example
basically one of the wall sections are like 1 unit smaller than the rest of it, which allows the enemies to actually hear the noise, making it so they actually get dragged by the treadmill (which leads to a locked door, that eventually opens when you walk to the linedef by the blue keycard)

[little sand]

CAN I GET MODS ON SWITCH DUMB ASS

[elder merlin]

In my case, I think the enemies got stuck, because they couldn't move when I checked with noclip mode

[knotty fable]

hmm, that's weird
did you speed through the other enemy encouters? (don't shoot, just run)
you'd need to shoot at least one bullet for them to activate

[little sand]

HELLO FUCK HEADS

[knotty fable]

we don't know

[elder merlin]

Yep

[little sand]

Ok thank you

@knotty fable

nice map bro

[elder merlin]

Wait

[knotty fable]

yeah, that's why

[little sand]

Make a map where it is only puzzles and if you get the puzzles wrong you get swarmed by enemies

[elder merlin]

Ehh, sorry I got confused, no, I didn't avoid the enemies, I had finished with all the ones I could, but I checked the amount of monsters I killed and I was missing a few

[knotty fable]

Huh
That’s weird
Back when I tried it worked for me

Lemme check the map real quick

[knotty fable]

hey that's actually a good idea

[elder merlin]

It may be, but it might affect those who want to do 100% kills, or am I wrong?

[knotty fable]

what if like at the end you press a switch which activates a crusher and kills them all

yeah no so back to my level
what could be happening is uh
some enemies just refusing to leave
one thing that happens is that heavy enemies often take a while to teleport
if you wait long enough though they'll appear

making a patch that has them appear a tad bit more quickly

here you go, hopefully this one has at least a little quicker teleports
gotta go for now, see you

@elder merlin don’t know if you’d want ping for this, but here

[elder merlin]

Hello

[elder merlin]

Let's see

[runic breach]

are you 8

jojo username, trollface pfp, "we do a little trollin" in about me

also unnecessarily rude + new to discord

[grizzled wharf]

Hi there!

i wanted to see if i could get some feedback and maybe find some people to hang and make some doom maps

im a Videogame art designer student and ill will soon get my level desing classes and before i do i wanted to try and make a map

it started because of a joke so in part the end of it will be one

i want it to be a normalish map then turn it into a joke wad at the end

but for now i wanted just some feedback and maybe some help with the current "end" of it as im trying to make a big deep hole in the ground but idk if i should do that or just make a completly different section

I think it only works on gzdoom but idk, it might work on vanilla doom 2

[drowsy mica]

I released my first mappack for doom yesterday. Blood Harvest is my unofficial expansion to John Romero's SIGIL.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/blood-harvest

[haughty flower]

How do you mod freedoom?

[loud wedge]

Working on a doom map

But I keep getting distracted by how eeer uhhhh beautiful it is

[knotty fable]

Amazing

[royal wave]

https://twitter.com/romero/status/1665457138116841472?s=46&t=yt-PcCBYYcVX-zR78DETPg

John Romero 🤘🏽 (@romero)

I’m going to stream myself playing through MyHouse.wad at 10:30pm UK time at https://t.co/evqV4F28d0

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Twitter · Jun 4, 2023, 8:34 PM

[low dew]

Hello. New to DOOM modding. I'm trying to make it so that when I move this ceiling down, the side walls don't follow (I'm trying to make a door, but last test I did made the side walls move up and down with it). How would I do that?

[lusty dove]

check the box in the settings on those side walls called "lower unpegged"

[low dew]

Gonna try this later. Thanks a lot anyway.

[lusty dove]

cool

[knotty fable]

WAIT THAT’S WHAT THAT DOES?
I know it wasn’t intended for me but that’s actually really helpful thanks a lot

[real sigil]

Uhh so I accidentally made the ENTIRE massive map too big so I needed to rescale. I am famous within my household for my poor ability to judge height (artist family).

But ah. I now need to find out how to scale the actual gameplay’s fov to the model’s (2.4x more)

[knotty fable]

Can’t you just select all sectors, press E, use the top option to resize vertically, use the side option to resize horizontally, then recenter it?

[real sigil]

yeah

[real sigil]

Ok, so not only the 2D x and y of the sectors but all their heights need to correspond to the change.

[real sigil]

I remembered there was a reason why I upscaled everything from my drafts: to ease mapping and prevent too many tiny sectors from all the details. Instead I’ll find out how to change the default playerheight from a script. If all else fails…shudder cat fov simulator

[knotty fable]

Wait isn’t that what Myhouse did? If it was for this reason that would actually be kinda funny

[knotty fable]

Wait you can scale up enemies?

[real sigil]

I haven’t yet researched how myhouse did all their special effects. Though, I must in the future.

And yes. But not without scripting. I was intending to get into the scripting aspect anyway, so this is just a little sooner

I am actually making my own house but ah it’s just to practice modeling from life. But since my address is 6066, it would be a crime not to do something with it. Might just pollute it with memes and nonsense cause it’s stupid, make some inside jokes about my neighborhood, poke fun at family

[knotty fable]

Damn, now I kinda wanna do something like that
Sadly I live in an apartment building, so even if I did make it it would be like really small 😔

[runic breach]

gzdoom

you don't mod freedoom, freedoom is an IWAD

[haughty flower]

I just did

I copied the assets from freedoom phase 2 and pasted into a new wad and customized it too

wanna see?

https://youtu.be/BAKKs4gj2yk

Have I proven you wrong yet?

[real sigil]

You could just fill all the other rooms in the building with whatever you want

[haughty flower]

Doom 1993 should've added a steam workshop.

[runic agate]

Can someone tell me what happen to this hud I set it Force aspect ratio: off and this what happen

[knotty fable]

Oh yeah that would be cool

[runic breach]

oh, you meant mod as in make mods and not as in play mods

is that an IWAD or a PWAD

besides, you can't really "mod" an IWAD, IWADs are literally just resources to be processed by the engine, it's like a resource pack for minecraft but with maps as well

any mods you make are processed by the engine, so mods for doom 1/2/final/free are all just classified as doom mods

[pearl glen]

can someone with more modding knoweldge than me help make a (probably simple just im very dumb) patch thing

[haughty flower]

Oh, I'm sorry

[haughty flower]

and what I made is a mod for freedoom

anyone can do that

[haughty flower]

I want to share doom mods

[haughty flower]

Like ones used with DN3DOOM.pk3

[low dew]

Wondering if there's a way to prevent the sky (ceiling) from moving when the switch activates the big stone wall (elevator). I had heard lifts were a function you could use but I can't find it in the list. Using GZDOOM as a source port to make maps in Ultimate Doom Builder

Sorry I'm asking so many questions, I'm just looking to understand Doom better and make my own maps

[whole blade]

sectors only move height when you tell them to

if the sky ceiling is lowering it's because you've given it an action that does this

what line action are you using on that switch?

[low dew]

Lower elevator to nearest floor

I intend for it to only apply to the area coming up from the ground

Not for the ceiling aswell

[whole blade]

use "lower floor to nearest"

aslo oyu can just use "lower floot by x" and tell it how far to go

that's the standard line action for such things

[low dew]

I'll try that tomorrow, thank you.

[knotty fable]

This made me realize a sky crusher would be really disorienting

[tight mirage]

Not specificaly doom but does anyone know some completely free midi softwares i can use to make amy own custom backround music (and a youtube tutorial if possible)

[real sigil]

Found a way to adjust all the heights. Figured that would be easier than messing with scripts. But the change required me to redo all of the stairwells and these things for every single wall

I wanna punch a crater through both my virtual and actual house walls. So I had to zoom in both over and under each of these sectors, since the floor and ceiling meet, so it was very disorienting. Took an hour and a half

[knotty fable]

It’s always kinda funny when people go “oh hey my solution is too complicated, I should try this easier method instead” and then spend like an entire hour or two trying to get it to work while thinking about how you could have done the other one in like 10 minutes max
Speaking from experience

[real sigil]

It also made my house be raised much taller than it should, nearly doubling the size of my crawl space. And the kitchen is now shaped like a tiny trailer. I really cannot bother with making an exact replica anymore, not that it was ever a perfect one to begin with, but it really doesn’t matter too much. All I have to do is downsize all the kitchen appliances, and the extra crawl space is welcome for more hidden spaces

Maybe my first solution of just adjusting the camera height was better, but on the other hand, maybe it would have ruined too many things, such as making the hit boxes of enemies out of whack or appearing as if enemies only attack your legs, which could be fixed with more scripts, but that’s a whole other can of worms

Keep in mind my homeland before this was roblox studio 💀 imagine modernity

[real sigil]

Oh lol

I just realized. I forgot to scale the floor heights too… the whole 1.3 hours I did not consider whether that was why everything didn’t scale correctly…

Oh well. I actually do like the new house height, even if I had to add some extra steps. It makes you wonder more what is under the first floor

[runic breach]

no need to apologize lol

[knotty fable]

purposefully make the slayer and the enemies like really small and make the level take place on a table via 3D floor magic

[real sigil]

That actually could be interesting. Like that FPS chess game on steam

But I’m not too interested in making something like that at the moment

[runic breach]

isn't there a mod called honey, i shrunk the doomguy that lets you play the game tiny

[real sigil]

Heard of it

[knotty fable]

I wanna learn how to use decorate so I can add my friends’ faces to my secret rooms

[knotty fable]

Anyone got any good tutorials? Can’t find anything on how to use to add textures

[haughty flower]

Can I post my nostalgia critic doom mod to moddb?

[haughty flower]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/zackkymurr

Freedoom and GZdoom Required

[haughty flower]

Any problems?

[pallid spire]

Does anyone know how to change the text messages in Slade? (“A secret is revealed!” “Are you sure? This skill level isn’t even remotely fair.”)

[haughty flower]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nquBHS-Nf1o

I wonder if I can turn my raspberry pi into a badass FPS video game system

[compact cargo]

Anyone good with ACS? Having a script issue

[pearl glen]

yes

[stray hollow]

Hey I have aquestion about loading up a mod I'm trying to play, can anyone help me?

[fallen panther]

Hello what's the issue?

[real sigil]

Is there any to turn off the flashing lights? They really hurt my eyes and I can’t coordinate well. Didn’t used to bother me too much but when I play on higher difficulties, it’s too much of a distraction

[pearl glen]

try cycling between the lighting mods, i use gzdoom so if you dont then

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[real sigil]

I also use gzdoom so I’ll give it a shot

[whole blade]

Changing lighting mode will alter the amount of contrast, but you can't change an in map sector light blink

You'd have to open up the map and remove the action

[real sigil]

I’m playing the original levels. I just asked here cause I thought the solution may require modding

How to defeat me:
❌hordes from the depths of hell
✅flashlight

[whole blade]

Lol

It's not really the kind of thing you can just mod out. Maybe with zscript?

Might be worth googling to see if there's a photosensitivity mod out there

[real sigil]

I’ll give that a shot

[haughty flower]

How do you make a hud message after resuming the game in doom?

[whole blade]

With a hudmessage script (only doable in ports that support scripting)

[haughty flower]

can you do it in slade?

[rocky laurel]

Hey folks, I'd like some help form an Advanced UDMF Mapper that could help with some scripting and debugging problems. This is a Wrath of Cronos Centric mod, and I am trying to deal with issues such as logical soft locks in a multiplayer setting.
I can go over specifics and show screen shots, but realize that this is involved, and requires a comprehensive understanding of what is being designed here.

Hey folks, I'd like some help form an Advanced UDMF Mapper that could help with some scripting and debugging problems. This is a Wrath of Cronos Centric mod, and I am trying to deal with issues such as logical soft locks in a multiplayer setting. I can go over specifics and show screen shots, but realize that this is involved, and requires a comprehensive understanding of what is being designed here.

https://www.doomworld.com/forum/topic/123457-hexen-land-of-the-serpent-riders/

[grand token]

I could've sworn there's a source port that lets you disable or at least soften the strobe lights.

I remember seeing it under an accessibility menu in one...

Pooch! That's it!

[grand token]

The Pooch source port lets you disable strobe and flickering lights, and the chaingun muzzle flash.

Maybe this means Woof also supports that option.

[brittle lily]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/816379286852337675/1116610154792747039/Myhouse_2023.06.09_-_02.04.13.07.DVR_Trim_4.mp4

[brittle lily]

i fell down a hole and got stuck. i dialed 911 but realised i was in the mountains and had no cell service. iv spent 999 days in the hole. plz help. Maybe i should have let that hell knight kill me when i had the chance. didnt know id be living in a hole.

[grizzled wharf]

Yeah, that the current end as it is a side project that I'm working on while also working on collage stuff.
Also, i still don't know how can I make a tunnel in the hole lol.

[topaz pebble]

What do you guys think is the best doom mod

[haughty flower]

I figured out how to add pausing and resuming the game high on life style