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edgy ermine
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Hello and good morning!

ashen grove
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Pretty decent tbh

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Also Greetings to everyone

olive fern
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Good morning all

slow falcon
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Sup

wise lark
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Mornin

sharp sundial
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hi everyone

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where can i ask about mapping

drifting steppe
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Bleb

hollow knoll
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67

floral marlin
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why wouldnt you lol?

clear imp
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hii

woven dawn
sage field
sage field
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Never

polar halo
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Agent 47, the brotherhood of steel shall dispel the rot.

severe trellis
polar halo
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We shall eliminate the abominations. Leave. No. Survivors.

cunning iris
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If you've got an issue with furries then I have some bad news for you regarding this server :P

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Think what you want, just keep it to yourself

wispy scarab
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Doom is genuinely the best game ever like I'm not kidding

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best game oat

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No 1

cunning iris
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Make me

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Yet here I am

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You called?

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You pinged me, what did you expect would happen lmao

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I'm starting to think you missed me

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lololol

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Make me [2]

sullen yarrow
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A conversation you yourself were not part of

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Are you guys like 12? This type of behavior stopped being funny when Big Chungus died out

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You were not

polar halo
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Im not doing that

cunning iris
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Thanks for not updating chat discord

cunning iris
carmine gust
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You kids need to be put in a corner

polar halo
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I activly make fuckin cat noises to my girlfriend and SHE MEOWS BACK

cunning iris
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That is an awful gif I love it

sullen yarrow
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This is how you guys come off as

sullen yarrow
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What

clear imp
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whats with trans people , furries and doom

sullen yarrow
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We going back to kindergarten with these insults

polar halo
sullen yarrow
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Nah I meant the jerks in chat

cunning iris
polar halo
clear imp
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LOOK AT MY BIO IM A TGUY IM JUST MAKING FUN OF MYSELF-

polar halo
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I didn't see that I'm sorry

clear imp
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its called self deprecation XD dw ur fine

carmine gust
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I strongly suggest we don't make jokes like that while dealing with people who aren't so nice to others

sullen yarrow
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What about playing DOOM and either of those things are mutually exclusive?

clear imp
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I mean idk legoshi kinda fine af tho

sullen yarrow
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???

ashen grove
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Hmm what's happening?

sullen yarrow
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Bro thinks he's packgod 😭

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"You're a poopyhead!" is next I bet

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I'm insulted

carmine gust
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One more removal i guess

ashen grove
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Who's this shiny new fella now?

sullen yarrow
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Somebody else's problem now

ashen grove
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I believe two fellas are gone now

ashen grove
sullen yarrow
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Howdy, I'm playing through RtCW's Xbox port atm

ashen grove
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I guess that's what the restatement of the licence was for

sullen yarrow
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Saw somebody post a video about it in the Quake server but haven't looked into it

ashen grove
fair canyon
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Has anyone seen Deimos? I can’t find him and Phobos is getting worried about ‘im

thorn egret
thorn egret
ashen grove
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Is he even relevant?

misty ridge
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Also wtf haopened bro

ashen grove
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I remember him jumping into the bandwagon of his "fans" roasting him

misty ridge
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Litreally come bact to see a war wasteland or sum

ashen grove
misty ridge
ashen grove
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And both em were nuked so yeah

misty ridge
misty ridge
cunning iris
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New user too so go figure

misty ridge
misty ridge
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Yeah

fiery hamlet
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Similar stuff happens with the GOW server sometimes

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Guy comes in and rips on LGBTQ+ folks (or the previous logo that we had) and then is banned; not sure why that server doesn't make the new logo rainbow oriented

wise lark
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Amazing first thing to see when i click on the server

fiery hamlet
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Well tbh you shouldn't expect anything out of Discord

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There's always a dipshit

wise lark
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I have an irrational sense of optimism

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Anyways <@&162901871168585728>

fiery hamlet
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That's fair

ashen grove
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What do we have here now?

wise lark
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Nothing anymore

misty ridge
ashen grove
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Ahh the third one is banished into the void

misty ridge
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Tf where the 2 thumps ups emotes on the message

wise lark
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I don't remember who those were unfortunately

misty ridge
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I was just going to check

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And then mods came to clean up

ashen grove
misty ridge
fiery hamlet
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(Insert Peter Griffin Geto image) this is because the guy had sama as a part of his username

misty ridge
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Also emoting your own message with a thumps up is sad

fiery hamlet
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It's sad he didn't see the irony

misty ridge
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Lol

fiery hamlet
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Guy ripping on LGBTQ+ replying to my comment on guys ripping on LGBTQ+

cunning iris
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Oh was there another one

misty ridge
ashen grove
misty ridge
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Shit day

ashen grove
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3 fellas in total today

cunning iris
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Kids must be out for spring break today

wise lark
misty ridge
fiery hamlet
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I don't understand how you can have a username like Wolf666 in any other year besides like 2016 or 2018

misty ridge
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Maybe it’s a old account

fiery hamlet
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Nah

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Def not

misty ridge
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Hol up, fuck can’t change name here unless u have nitro

ashen grove
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2025 fella

fiery hamlet
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If it was old the person with the account would have been wise enough to choose a different name

ashen grove
fiery hamlet
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Lurkers until we get more DOOM news

misty ridge
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But like lowkey this day is fucked for me

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Ubi is very mean and is not opening r6

sullen yarrow
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I got called not tuff by one of these people

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Heart shattered instantly, depression kicked in. Just a horrific use of words

ashen grove
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I remember

misty ridge
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Aint no way brah

wise lark
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It worked fine until it literally just stopped one day

misty ridge
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Sry u not tuff🙂‍↔️DeagNilox

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Goofy aah

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Like who would even say that unironicly

sullen yarrow
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I am also upset with Ubi but it's due to them abandoning that new Rayman remaster immediately lol

misty ridge
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Also ubi decided to rework dokkaebi in r6 even tho she was already good (top attackers)

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And she did not need any rework

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And from how it sounds it either is op or abyssmal dogshit

cunning iris
cunning iris
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They didn't really abandon it when they said there was a patch in the works like a week ago

sullen yarrow
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It was like three weeks ago

cunning iris
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Any day now just give de time

zenith badger
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Why is the battlemode server phone verification locked but this servers not.

cunning iris
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I doubt it'll re-add the og music but fixing the save issues would be nice

zenith badger
cunning iris
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Could just be ran by different people and the other just wants a stricter policy on who gets to talk
Probably helps a lot to slow down raid/new accounts I guess

zenith badger
cunning iris
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Beats me
That's just a guess, better safe than sorry

sullen yarrow
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It's advertised in DOOM Eternal itself

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That makes it an inherent weak spot because it's suddenly exposed to everyone who plays Eternal, and a lot of them could be bad actors

zenith badger
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Its not even like i can view the servers channels, its completely locked down...
I just wanted to see if battle mode was active enough to warrent getting doom eternal on sale...

severe trellis
zenith badger
zenith badger
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Wiat it does

sullen yarrow
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Console multiplayer

zenith badger
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Are you kidding me. Can I just buy it seperately then?

opal idol
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Idk

zenith badger
opal idol
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I play it on xbox and I have to buy some weird ass Xbox gamepass to play it

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But on the other hand that could just be cus it costs money to play online on xbox

sullen yarrow
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Yeah this is just a console multiplayer being paid thing

opal idol
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Dang

misty ridge
severe trellis
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nvm its 4.5

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one died

zenith badger
cunning iris
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One of them got brain damage and is only half conscious now

severe trellis
zenith badger
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Also, why does the battle mode wiki page have absolutely no info on battle mode.

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Isnt it literally supposed to be the page to look at for battle mode stuff

urban aurora
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fuck yeah ultrakill art

obtuse vessel
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Playing vanilla doom and not getting the "a secret is revealed" will always feel weird to me

clear imp
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nice art

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oh, like the first doom game

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is that what u mean by vanilla?

sullen yarrow
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Vanilla means unmodded usually but yea this is about the first game

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I'm too used to secret messages from Unity

obtuse vessel
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Yeah I mean like the unmodified DOS version of doom

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I usually play with source ports

misty ridge
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It’s tortilla eating time

obtuse vessel
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every time you use noclip to get to sections of the level that are meant to be cosmetic that you can't actually get to normally in duke nukem 3d you get a message that says "You're not supposed to be here - Levelord"

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as a little easter egg

potent sigil
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mooD

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Ok. This might an unpopular idea:

Ok.. its Doom, but its like Battlefield

covert tangle
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Hi fellas :]

sturdy robin
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hi im new

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idrk what to say doom is cool

obtuse vessel
sturdy robin
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every game except 2 and eternal

eager saffron
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im curious about the doom diablo stuff. Ill upload lots of goodies when i get home if anyone cares

misty ridge
sturdy robin
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2 had bad maps and i could list ten pages worth

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i'm not coming in and immediately dissing the game though

misty ridge
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Fair ig

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And de?

sturdy robin
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de is the one with the ten pages worth

misty ridge
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And now not fair ig

sullen yarrow
misty ridge
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But I can see where u would be coming from with that

sturdy robin
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honestly something ideal would be doom 1 maps with doom 2 enemies

misty ridge
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Fair

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Doom did have better maps on avrage imo

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I personally have nothing against any doom game I have played, all are good in their own ways

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Not played tda or doom 3

sturdy robin
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TDA is fun, people say its quake-like but its honestly the most doomlike of the new series

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DOOM 3 is also pretty good but suffers from old game stuff and no chapter select on top of some other stuff

misty ridge
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Ok

sullen yarrow
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Though Quake plays like Classic DOOM, so

misty ridge
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Yeah

sturdy robin
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Quakes a lot more vertical

sullen yarrow
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Really minor difference when you encapsulate the whole thing

misty ridge
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Mhm

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Anyway gn

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Me eepy

astral mortar
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Not doom related but og mw2 is peak

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Surpirsed to see more hackers on xbox than pc

wise lark
solemn fable
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I love ultrakikk

timid sierra
solemn fable
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Ultrakill

sturdy robin
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they're just way too long and far from any traditional doom map, they fit eternal well though

timid sierra
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What’s wrong with it not being like a traditional map?

sturdy robin
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It could just be me but part of the charm of the game was exploring the map for secrets too

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Either hidden rooms or new areas entirely

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Along with some backtracking through other arenas. 2016 and TDA also had linear levels but also had some really good traditional-feeling levels

spice brook
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most of them are actually quite short

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oh I didn't recognize you because of the pfp lol

sturdy robin
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Most of them go on for an hour iirc

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Memory serves correctly they're longer than some of TDAs big maps

spice brook
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exultia I'll give you because you're getting all your equipment, the other ones idk about that

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siege 1, forsaken plains, and especially spire are longer than even dlc levels

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I'll have to replay eternal again

sturdy robin
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mayve i'm just slow at the game then, each level usually takes me an hour, i think i can beat Siege and Forsaken plains in maybe 30 minutes max?

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Spires the exception thats a long level

spice brook
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I still don't think I've beaten siege 1 in less than an hour assuming I'm going for all the secrets n stuff

sturdy robin
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Secret hunting is different I think each open level could take over an hour if you're going secret hunting

spice brook
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for sure

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but I was also assuming we were talking about going for 100% in eternal's levels also

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assuming I don't die on the slayer's gate I can beat exultia in half an hour probably

sturdy robin
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exultia might've been shorter than im remembering actually

spice brook
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exultia is honestly one of the longer ones

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I might just knock out a replay of eternal this afternoon and see how long it takes me for each level

sturdy robin
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most of eternals secrets are pretty quick, you break a wall, theres a gorenest, or you just have to figure out how to get it

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TDAs secrets are a lot more indepth, there are secret keys, secret areas in Serrats stages, theres still some obvious ones like "break this wall" but not as many obvious ones

timid sierra
# sturdy robin Most of them go on for an hour iirc

They are only going to take an hour if you take the level slow. Nothing wrong with going slow, but it’s not going to take most people an hour, especially if are basing this time off a deathless run

sturdy robin
timid sierra
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You don’t need to quickswap, it wasn’t intended

sturdy robin
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And apart from the Marauder, Gladiator, Khan Maykr, and any demon that prevents you from dealing damage, it is insanely OP and easily the best damage dealer

timid sierra
timid sierra
solemn fable
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I love ultrakill and doom

timid sierra
# sturdy robin Oh, I didn't know that

I think after they found out how much it could affect gameplay they really leaned into it, they made spirits have resistance to ssg and ballista because that was the biggest quickswapping combo, they just didn’t except it to be that impactful on release

sturdy robin
solemn fable
sturdy robin
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Yeah

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Plus 8-4 was just bad

solemn fable
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Ik

spice brook
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"I did not care for ultrakill"

solemn fable
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Id wait like 10 months for that not 2 years

wise lark
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I enjoy ultrakill

solemn fable
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On steam

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Rn

wise lark
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I enjoyed it more than eternal at the very least

solemn fable
spice brook
solemn fable
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And Gabriel

solemn fable
wise lark
spice brook
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I stopped playing the game after I beat minos on violent

wise lark
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I have everything besides Fraud, the Encores and P-2 P-Ranked

solemn fable
spice brook
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couldn't be bothered to P rank all of act 2, haven't picked it up since

wise lark
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I mostly just play Cybergrind now

sturdy robin
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I would be as bold as to say

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Ultrakill is outright better than Eternal

wise lark
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I honestly agree

solemn fable
sturdy robin
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Oh I’m not insane

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it just handles its ultra-fast gameplay way better

frail drum
wise lark
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I'd like to give eternal a retry but I haven't played it in like two years...

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also uh
it's expensive

frail drum
solemn fable
spice brook
solemn fable
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Or evangelion

spice brook
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pretty much every steam sale it drops to like 12

wise lark
wise lark
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there's other things I need to play anyways

solemn fable
spice brook
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there's movement tech in both games

solemn fable
sturdy robin
# spice brook how so

Ultrakill has way shorter levels and focuses more on speed running which compliments the game. Eternals levels stretch on which is only amplified by the hyper fast gameplay along with less of a focus

spice brook
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hell, there was movement tech way back in 2016

spice brook
wise lark
spice brook
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rail boosting, yeah

wise lark
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I've never pulled it off but it's funny

solemn fable
spice brook
sturdy robin
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That’s understandable

wise lark
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if you're looking at it it can be a bit much

spice brook
solemn fable
sturdy robin
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Ultrakills weapons are way better, they play with each other nicer. Combos are way more fun, each weapon feels fun to use both individually and with each other. Doom as a whole doesn’t really doesn’t suit quick swapping, especially how Eternal does it

solemn fable
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Bible fanfic so good it had to become a game

spice brook
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there are some funny interactions with ultrakill weapons

frail drum
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We’re feasting good

solemn fable
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And (invincible)

sturdy robin
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Honestly doom as a whole wasn’t really suited or made for massive vertical combat

spice brook
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why wouldn't it be

uncut dagger
spice brook
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doom is a brand, not a set in stone array of gameplay parameters

sturdy robin
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It started out not even having an actual z-axis, you couldn’t jump or look up and down

wise lark
sturdy robin
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Doom 3 and doom 2016 honestly felt more like quake and Eternal felt like quake on steroids

wise lark
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In other words I'm doing pretty well and hope you guys are doing well

uncut dagger
sturdy robin
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TDA feels like the first game to actually translate the classic doom movement into 3D

uncut dagger
solemn fable
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I feel like the devs could have done a lil bit better with drugs but for the amount of detail I'm joyous of it they did really good ik it isn't easy to do the warping and bending

wise lark
solemn fable
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My pfp should be added into doom monitor lizards have to go to doom

wise lark
sturdy robin
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Honestly despite being made with the quake engine

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Half life 2 unironically feels more like classic doom than eternal does, although that stemmed from accidentally creating the HL2 movement by recreating doom movement in ue5

wise lark
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Half Life 2 was made with Source

spice brook
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I don't really see why a doom game needs to lack verticality

sturdy robin
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It doesn’t, but it’s more of a staple and distinction between it and quake

spice brook
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if doom eternal was just called "eternal" the game wouldn't be any better

sturdy robin
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that and 3d but I doubt IDs gonna go retro

uncut dagger
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Quite the contrary, mobility is key to DOOM

spice brook
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sure, mobility

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not necessarily vertical mobility

sturdy robin
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It’s key to both

uncut dagger
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Jumping is always a necessary part of mobility in DOOM

sturdy robin
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Idrk how to explain it but you play quake and doom very differently

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Even if you have jumping and freelook

spice brook
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tbh I play quake 1 very similarly to how I'd play og doom if it had jumping

wise lark
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jumping in the 1- wait no that's not right the 2- well it's not really 2d is it

spice brook
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2.5d

wise lark
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yeah

sturdy robin
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maybe i'm just playing uzdoom which has a very heavy gravity

spice brook
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couldn't tell you
I just play the doom 1 + doom 2 kex port

wise lark
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I play on a launcher my friend made

uncut dagger
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It’s the absolute worst when FPS games have tiny or no jumps

spice brook
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what's an example

sturdy robin
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Darkenstein

uncut dagger
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Amid Evil, good game but that jump sucks

solemn fable
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Gloomwood is also a good game

sturdy robin
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Bad game in general honestly but your jump is a kick instead

sturdy robin
solemn fable
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Sorry I was gone for a sec I had to put the monitor in my pfp back inside his cage

sturdy robin
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what

uncut dagger
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The computer lizard

wise lark
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I think that's a lizard not a monitor

spice brook
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it's both

wise lark
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unless it's monitoring something...

solemn fable
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Oh and don't get a Savannah monitor they bite hiss tail whip and scratch the one in my pfp is jusst getting calm

sturdy robin
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its the brusier from doom 3

spice brook
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speaking of doom 3

uncut dagger
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Do monitor lizards hurt?

solemn fable
wise lark
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I see

solemn fable
spice brook
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is the RoE expansion any better than the main game

solemn fable
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But why does the lizard own the monitor

uncut dagger
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Surely they go on sale for cheap, waiting for that is what I do with Steam games and DLC usually

solemn fable
sturdy robin
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Can't, thats piracy sadly

spice brook
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dawg don't go into the official server for a franchise and ask for tips on piracy

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not a great plan

sturdy robin
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I won't go into detail but

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eh nvm

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i'm not gonna risk it

versed plover
sturdy robin
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it is

spice brook
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"where can I get these paid dlcs for free?"

sturdy robin
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it is very much piracy

ripe girder
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“Where download free”
Is piracy

versed plover
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I didn't buy the game; a foreigner gave it to me. I wanted to see if I could get the DLC through a draw, but the translator I use sometimes misinterprets my words.

sturdy robin
uncut dagger
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I think he’s asking about giveaways

spice brook
sturdy robin
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It brings back the grabber that you don't really end up using

solemn fable
sturdy robin
wise lark
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goat

uncut dagger
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It’s a monitor

wise lark
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the animal goat I mean

solemn fable
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Ik

sturdy robin
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Oh no i'm thinking of lost levels

ripe girder
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It’s a goat

solemn fable
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My cat in my pfp is wierd

ripe girder
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Someone said they wanted to make it perfect and added the top hat and monocle and bow tie and I thought it was hilarious so I’ve kept it ever since

sturdy robin
solemn fable
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It likes eating bugs and raw meat and eats rotting meat

ripe girder
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Roe fixes all issues of base game and adds a pretty fun gimmmick gravity gun

wise lark
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ravenholm?

versed plover
sturdy robin
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But it gets better. The SSG is introduced and the Artifact is better than the Soulsphere

solemn fable
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If I have 1 day old beef what has been out for a lil too long he will make at it

sturdy robin
# wise lark ravenholm?

Ravenholm, from Half Life 2. Its the best half life chapter and has you use the gravity gun a lot

ripe girder
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It condenses the 8 hour base game into a 3 hour story.
More enemies.
Ssg.
Gravity gun
Faster pace

wise lark
sturdy robin
ripe girder
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I’ve played the first one. It’s def aged quite a bit

sturdy robin
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You should play them at least once, HL1 is better though im

solemn fable
wise lark
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internal

fossil lantern
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No

sturdy robin
fossil lantern
ripe girder
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I personally couldn’t get into ultrakill. I initially liked the demo but after getting the full game idk I just don’t feel like it’s for me

fossil lantern
wise lark
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external

sturdy robin
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I'll pop it on if I wanna paly something fast over Eternal

uncut dagger
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I love the Ultrakill premise but the art style is super unappealing to me

solemn fable
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Is doom better then Skyblox Minecraft

versed plover
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Thank you for your help anyway.

sturdy robin
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so your translations won't mess up, i'll dm it to you

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I use it and its pretty reliable

wise lark
solemn fable
wise lark
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I choose the secret third option

sturdy robin
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hand-to-hand combat

solemn fable
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Umamusame pretty derby

versed plover
wise lark
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isn't that a gacha game

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idk I've never played it

solemn fable
wise lark
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so I'm picking between three evils

solemn fable
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Fourth option is animal crossing

wise lark
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four evils sorry

uncut dagger
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Let’s all just agree that high mobility FPS games are the best

wise lark
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out of those four i'd rather play uh
minecraft I guess

versed plover
sturdy robin
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aggressive semi-tactical fps's

uncut dagger
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So Eternal?

sturdy robin
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no brutal doom

wise lark
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👀

solemn fable
sturdy robin
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give sergeant mark 500,000 and a job at ID for this

solemn fable
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Good game on steam

sturdy robin
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genuinely the best thing i think i've ever played in my life

wise lark
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what is brutal doom

uncut dagger
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I think it’s a fan made thing

solemn fable
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Isn't it a mod

sturdy robin
versed plover
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Is there an online shop where you recommend buying the DLC for Doom Eternal?

wise lark
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steam

sturdy robin
wise lark
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satan

sturdy robin
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ask satan for doom dlcs

uncut dagger
sturdy robin
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Obvious gore warning if you're in public or can't handle it despite being in a doom server, some of the images have it

uncut dagger
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Unfortunately, it became obsolete in the year 2016

versed plover
uncut dagger
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What are the cheaper alternatives?

sturdy robin
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although they're pretty different games

wise lark
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watched the trailer and it looks... fine? I guess?

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looks mostly the same just a lot bloodier
and free look

uncut dagger
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I’m not one of the people in this server that’s a retro fan-game and mod savant, so I don’t know much

versed plover
sturdy robin
#

I would give it a try if you're able to and like Classic DOOM

wise lark
#

last time I played a doom game was probably eternal
so like two years ago

spice obsidian
solemn fable
#

Anyways I'ma go now I'm making pizza from scratch

uncut dagger
wise lark
#

I forgot tda existed

#

no I did play that
for like 30 minutes
a day after the game came out

bleak venture
#

Im boutta finish tda

uncut dagger
#

Every day I’ve been eager for the DLC

hollow charm
#

There's a piece of my mind that's telling me to but the doom eternal dlc

wise lark
#

doom eternal has dlc?

uncut dagger
#

The Ancient Gods - Part One/Part Two, surely you’ve heard

frail drum
hollow charm
#

Ok

#

But I heard the Final boss is just a oversized marauder

sturdy robin
#

it is

astral mortar
#

I remember when this server had vcs. Those were some good times

frail drum
hollow charm
#

Aw man

frail drum
#

But the rest is a solid experience and an upgrade from the base game

pine delta
#

I haven't played tag 2 since launch, did they ever make it harder?

#

It was super weird that they made the ending the easiest part

#

Especially after they already expected the player to have done tag 1, which was significantly more difficult than the base game

uncut dagger
#

The final boss is really cool

hollow charm
pine delta
# hollow charm Aw man

You gotta remember the ancient gods part 2 was made during covid so they wouldn't have had the resources to do much with him

uncut dagger
#

It’s similar to the marauder, but not completely the same

timid sierra
sturdy robin
timid sierra
#

Why’s that

sturdy robin
#

Well for starters, its mostly the frame-cancelling. Quick-swapping is good when the game fits it

#

Quick swapping is just really OP. The Super Shotgun is DOOMS staple, its the strongest shotgun and possibly strongest weapon, but has a long cool down time. The Ballista as well, high damage but slow cool down. Quick-swapping essentially takes away the only weakness of these weapons

#

You pretty much get an automatic Super Shotgun. Speaking of, this also discourages the use of the Assault Rifle, Plasma Gun, and Chaingun since they're not as strong but deal more damage. If you can use the Super Shotgun instead at the same rate, why not use it then?

lofty reef
#

also the chain gun with sheild makes the game super easy

timid sierra
lofty reef
#

the plasma gun for shield enemies and the assault rifle for weak points

sturdy robin
#

Yes but nevers its automatic fire afaik, usually its the heatwave or microwave beam

timid sierra
#

Chaingun turret mod is very high dps lots of people just avoid it because it’s “not quickswapping”

lofty reef
timid sierra
solemn fable
#

Back

sturdy robin
timid sierra
#

Cause the only other really good longe range combo is ballista rocket launcher but you gotta use bats for that

sturdy robin
#

Imagine if in DOOM 2 the Super Shotgun just fired instantly, no cooldown. I think it could genuinely be stronger than the BFG in that case

spice brook
sturdy robin
timid sierra
lofty reef
spice brook
#

even more so, since your style meter inherently depends on your weapon swapping

timid sierra
#

That’s a game balancing issue, not quickswapping issue

sturdy robin
#

Game balancing caused by quickswapping since its the intended way to play in eternal

timid sierra
#

It’s not caused by quickswapping

#

They are just bad and won’t get used anyway

solemn fable
spice brook
lofty reef
#

the only thing I can say about ultrakill has a person who’s never touched it the bosses seem way better to fight

sturdy robin
#

Pretty much any weapon in eternal that isn't an instant high damage weapon can be disregarded due to it, since you usually balance that with low ammo or long cooldowns

lofty reef
#

outside of Satan I don’t really like fighting the bosses ESPECIALLY SAMUEL

spice brook
lofty reef
#

I want to play it tho just no pc

lofty reef
#

I Glaze with little substance in my case for that game

timid sierra
spice brook
sturdy robin
#

we disagree on why they're not balanced

solemn fable
#

Actually a hard boss what you NEED to completey understand the movement and how to do combos with the guns

spice brook
#

eternal wasn't made with quickswapping in mind, this much has been said

lofty reef
#

Anyone here like gladiator

spice brook
#

no he's ass

#

bugged out on my UN run and wouldn't let me gk him

lofty reef
#

😭

timid sierra
# sturdy robin we disagree on why they're not balanced

Not to be rude here but I’m just correct in that argument. Even if quickswapping never existed those weapons would never get any use from a skilled player. Sure, you can argue that quickswapping makes it even less likely, but they are still terrible weapons while disregarding quickswapping

lofty reef
#

I haven’t done my UN run yet just UV

#

and I hated him there too

timid sierra
sturdy robin
#

Yeah

#

thats the point

solemn fable
#

Are we talking about ultrakill or doom

lofty reef
timid sierra
#

The output isn’t low compared to quickswapping combos is what I’m saying, I’m saying it’s low even compared to other base weapons

sturdy robin
#

Again thats the point

solemn fable
#

K

sturdy robin
#

The power that comes from the ewapons isn't from the high damages but how fast you can dish them out

timid sierra
#

So they are terrible even when disregarding quickswapping

spice brook
spice brook
#

yes

timid sierra
#

They are utter garbage and the only reason you should ever use them is to gk a fodder

lofty reef
#

I mean the only good damage the plasma weapon the burst after shooting for a bit

timid sierra
#

But the base fire is utter trash

#

And the mods that get use without quickswapping still get use when you quickswap

sturdy robin
#

I can't find the chaingun damage but classic dooms chaingun is the pistol but high-powered

lofty reef
#

I only use the base when dealing with those shield spawners

timid sierra
#

The chaingun is still good in plenty of situations

spice brook
#

the chaingun's primary fire is actually really solid in eternal, even without mods

lofty reef
sturdy robin
#

I'm talking about the classic chaingun

lofty reef
#

Doom hunter is a fun boss

sturdy robin
#

It deals very low damage, its the same as the pistol, you can't even oneshot a zombieman. But its still an insanely powerful weapon because of how much damage you can dish out with it

spice brook
#

the classic chaingun isn't good because of the dps, it's good because it stunlocks enemies

sturdy robin
#

Its still really good against demons that don't get stunlocked easily

timid sierra
sturdy robin
timid sierra
#

Why?

sturdy robin
#

if you fail to see how high-dps (thank you for reminding me of hte term jormungandr) can be useful

timid sierra
#

Dude I understand how high dps is useful

#

I just fail to see how that point about the classic chaingun relates to eternals weapons balancing and quickswapping

sturdy robin
#

You were saying every high-dps weapon in eternal is bad because its low damage high-dps

spice brook
#

huh

timid sierra
#

Or anything even close to that

sturdy robin
spice brook
#

yeah low damage output as in they don't have good dps

lofty reef
#

that can be dps wise too

timid sierra
# sturdy robin ^

Yeah the base chaingun fire and plasma rifle are very low dps weapons

spice brook
#

tbh the chaingun isn't half bad

sturdy robin
#

In Eternal or Classic DOOM

timid sierra
#

Heavy cannon*

#

My bad

sturdy robin
#

the AR?

spice brook
#

yeah

#

also remote det is buns
can't believe how much they neutered it compared to 2016

sturdy robin
#

Because of the Precision Bolt?

spice brook
#

no he's talking about the primary fire

#

precision bolt is good even without quickswapping, and fully upgraded MMs are really strong, even if pretty ammo-intensive

sturdy robin
#

ah

lofty reef
#

Do yall use the MMs for anything but the doom hunter ?

sturdy robin
#

to be hypocritical (i think) i never used it because i disliked the change from raytrace to projectile

lofty reef
#

?

sturdy robin
#

oh meathook?

spice brook
#

micromissiles

sturdy robin
#

Whats MM?

#

ah, they're useful on big targets

lofty reef
#

Oh that’s nice to know

spice brook
#

hell knights take extra damage from them, so it's fairly ammo efficient to just dump a rack into them and leave them at low health

#

iirc a full rack of micromissiles plus a sticky crit instantly kills a hell knight

polar halo
#

Just listened to soundtracks from TDA

#

Never played TDA before but finishing move did a really great job making it feel heavy and slow compared to eternals ost

#

It's good shit honestly

sturdy robin
polar halo
#

The only track from eternal I actively like is "the only thing they fear is you" that's it

#

That's the only fucking track I like from all of eternal

drowsy halo
#

I have used axe that looks argent in diablo 3 before.

polar halo
#

What the fuck are you talking about?

#

Argent d'nur?

#

You talking about the place?

polar halo
spice brook
#

it's actually spelled argent dinner

drowsy halo
# polar halo Argent d'nur?

Argent is silver. Rhat is why argent energy is called that. The item in diablo looked like it was it was made by argent enegry

polar halo
polar halo
#

The way you said it confused me a little bit

polar halo
drowsy halo
#

Its alright.

polar halo
drowsy halo
#

No. I am concerned that they want to eat it though.

polar halo
#

Do they not realize it will kill them

thorn egret
polar halo
#

WE DO NOT CONSUME RAW ARGENT ENERGY OR ANY ARGENT OF THAT NATURE

#

NO

wise lark
#

I will consume it

frail drum
solemn fable
thorn egret
#

her greed sickens me

solemn fable
frail drum
polar halo
polar halo
sturdy robin
#

Eating it for decades

polar halo
wise lark
polar halo
wise lark
#

if I fuse with the argent I won't die

ripe girder
#

Man it’s a good thing I read up the context was definitely needed XD

polar halo
#

Your funeral

polar halo
#

I'm going to bed

wise lark
#

I wonder what argent does taste like though

polar halo
#

You all a bunch a fuckin lunatics

ripe girder
#

You wouldn’t be able to taste it. As all forms of volatile elements your taste buds would simply be destroyed

#

Making it impossible to taste

#

Aside from the obvious death part

polar halo
ivory ravine
#

calm down yikes

polar halo
#

I'm going to bed

ripe girder
#

Have a good night!

wise lark
polar halo
wise lark
#

And goodnight

ripe girder
obtuse canopy
#

so i preach extreme caution

polar halo
ripe girder
#

The argent wave that turned most of the humans on doom 2016 into the shuffling zombie types

wise lark
#

So in that case did they consume too much or not enough

obtuse canopy
#

yeah so unless you want a large gaping hole in your face dont touch it

polar halo
#

Think fallout.

wise lark
#

but they turned into zombies so they undied

#

I've never played fallout

polar halo
wise lark
#

I'm good ty

polar halo
obtuse canopy
sturdy robin
obtuse canopy
sturdy robin
#

sips my argent

obtuse canopy
#

1:00

polar halo
wise lark
#

I feel like I'd rather take my chances with death than a lobotomy

polar halo
obtuse canopy
polar halo
#

Did you notice the armor

obtuse canopy
#

there are many, which ones? the ranger armor?

polar halo
#

YEAH BABY

polar halo
#

OH MY GODS when I have the materials that's going to be my SECOND suit of power armor

obtuse canopy
#

cosplay?

polar halo
#

Yup

obtuse canopy
#

awesome

polar halo
#

Cardboard and pvc pipe

#

First was the t51b

#

Next is the ranger, maybe the slayers 2016 praetor

#

Not quite sure yet

polar halo
#

Still need to work on the t51b's final touches but it's very comfy for how bulky it is

#

I was actually inpressed

#

OKAY I'M GOING HONKSHOO

#

DAMMIT

solemn fable
solemn fable
obtuse vessel
#

There's apparently a duke nukem themed virtual pinball game a la space cadet pinball

#

It's called balls of steel, look it up

#

Duke nukem balls of steel (1997)

wise lark
#

wouldn't steel balls be heavy

obtuse vessel
#

Yes

sullen yarrow
misty ridge
#

Good morning

cunning iris
misty ridge
#

Uuh like 4,11g?

wise lark
#

that's not as bad as I thought they'd be

bleak venture
#

Im on da last chapter

#

Not gonna finish it because im too tired

cunning iris
#

Is it full steel or just a steel outside and hollow inside

misty ridge
misty ridge
misty ridge
#

But again like if the ball is let’s say 20cm in diameter it would be uuh

bleak venture
misty ridge
#

Uuh it would be like 34kg?

#

Wait no more like 33

fiery hamlet
cunning iris
#

Idk if that steel ball starts rolling down the hill he's going to be in trouble and def be going faster

fiery hamlet
#

-# does no one catch the reference

cunning iris
#

-# i guess not

fiery hamlet
#

Lemme throw something in here

#

🎵 Pizza mozzarella, pizza mozzarella, rella rella rella rella rella re... 🎵

frail drum
thorn egret
cunning iris
#

Not a very good ball then

covert tangle
#

Good afternoon fellas!!

misty ridge
frail drum
ashen grove
bleak venture
#

why are the top 20 games in the xbox preservation program sonic games

sullen yarrow
#

I hope they revive BC and bring back TASM 1

cunning iris
#

And the Crash games

#

Please let me play WoC and the mutant games on modern hardware

drifting steppe
sullen yarrow
#

Burrito clash sounds good too

#

It's backwards compatibility, for modern Xbox consoles

#

They stopped accepting new games into the program in 2021 but it might be returning

urban aurora
cunning iris
#

I do!

#

It has its flaws but I still think it's a fun enough game for a non-ND crash title

fair canyon
#

What if doomguy was killed by demons and Daisy went on a rampage instead?

jade marlin
#

hai

#

im new here

sullen yarrow
#

Hello

ashen grove
jade marlin
ashen grove
covert tangle
#

Evening, fellas

wise lark
#

hai

covert tangle
#

How was your day, if i may ask?

iron rivet
#

Was Doomguy always a very tough person even before he was sent to Mars?

sturdy robin
#

He assaulted his commanding officer which is why he was set to mars in the first place

iron rivet
#

Even before that, he was still likely who he is now, or close to it.

#

Like I’m willing to bet he got a black belt in Taekwondo.

obtuse canopy
#

i’d love to see doomguy kicking things

#

we need more of it in dark ages

lament pine
#

I am getting doom soon

#

Should I get the 2016 one for the first time playing?

cunning iris
#

If you care about story, you're best off starting at DOOM 1
2016, despite just being called DOOM, was the 4th entry chronologically for a long time (technically TDA comes before it now though, making it the 5th)

#

Also it's best to start at the beginning anyways. It's fun to see how the series evolved and changed over time

urban aurora
clear spade
#

Nothing is wrong with starting at the beginning though

uncut dagger
woven dawn
#

Uh.......

sullen yarrow
woven dawn
sullen yarrow
pearl mango
sullen yarrow
#

Bro RtCW is infuriating me

#

Literally every time I start to enjoy myself it drops a load of horseshit on me

urban aurora
pearl mango
urban aurora
pearl mango
#

oh lmfao

lament pine
#

Thanks for the advice!

woven dawn
sullen yarrow
lament pine
#

Ok thanks bro

urban aurora
#

at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter what you wanna start with, whatever is fine really! welcome to the doom community :]

uncut dagger
#

Well I mean you definitely should not start with the 2020 one, as the 2016 one is much better at introducing new players to DOOM mechanics while Eternal builds onto it, so going back to play the first would be less satisfying after Eternal

sullen yarrow
#

Unless they just did not enjoy Eternal's additions

#

I love Eternal's gameplay and think it's great but prefer what 2016 had going

cunning iris
uncut dagger
#

But Eternal would be really challenging without playing DOOM first, and then going back to DOOM after would feel a little slow

sullen yarrow
#

Unless they just did not enjoy Eternal's additions

uncut dagger
#

It’s not even about that, it’s about speed, and also most people absolutely do

sullen yarrow
#

And most people enjoy Classic DOOM but yet you don't

#

Everyone is entitled to their own taste even if it's the unpopular opinion

#

Also yeah, it's about the increased speed, something Eternal introduced over 2016, which, if they did not like, makes returning to 2016 better

uncut dagger
#

They would also be very confused from a story perspective

sullen yarrow
#

That's true but Eternal has a very confusing story anyway lol

uncut dagger
#

Exactly, and not knowing the people and events from the first game like Hayden would be worse

#

Any way you look at it, Eternal is intended to be played after DOOM. The real question is about whether TDA should be first or last

sullen yarrow
#

Very true that Eternal is to be played after 2016 and I absolutely agree with that

#

I was just saying that it's not an inherently superior product, some people, including me, might prefer 2016. TDA last for me, release order forever

uncut dagger
#

I’m biased, but I also recommend release order, although it’s not objective

urban aurora
bleak venture
#

Tda is good

#

Im on da last level

uncut dagger
#

Look up DOOM komodo, should get you interested immediately

sullen yarrow
#

It's my favorite

bleak venture
#

Gonna play it after im back from the gym

#

Doom tda has my favourite secrets

#

That one white gem secret in the ship area is my favourite

urban aurora
#

ill get tda when i can

#

money issue rn

uncut dagger
#

I think it was on sale for like 66.6% off at one point

urban aurora
#

hehehe, 666

#

that reminded me the last level of e1m8

sullen yarrow
#

They unfortunately had to round it up to the other cursed number

urban aurora
uncut dagger
urban aurora
prime sand
lament niche
#

I’m decently new to doom and haven’t played much and I use my Xbox, is it worth getting on pc?

flint flame
#

my dog ate my doom hat (not serious i was just re-reading the rules and saw that and wanted to say it)

ivory ravine
prime sand
pine prism
#

i gooned on doomslayer

hollow cedar
woven dawn
ivory ravine
#

✅

spice obsidian
# obtuse canopy we need more of it in dark ages

Fun fact - there is hidden Kick in Doom 2016 instead of Fists too, but I either was unable to make it work, either I made it work in 2020, but forgot how to reproduce it. 🤷‍♂️

sturdy robin
#

it depends on what type of game you want to play

#

Do you want to play as an absolute powerhouse? 2016. Do you wanna play a struggling survivor? DOOM 1

#

If you care about content then DOOM 1+2 has DOOM 1, DOOM 2, Plutonia, TNT, Sigil 1, Sigil 2, No Rest for the Living, and Legacy of Rust. Over 150 levels I think

#

Really just depends on what you like

bleak venture
#

To make you appreciate the series history and its evolution

#

The old games aged pretty well btw

bleak venture
#

Might finish VCNE or god of war next

iron rivet
#

What martial arts would fit Doomguy the most? I’m thinking taekwondo.

wise lark
iron rivet
hollow charm
#

Um guys why do I see a green guy in a suit with a chainsaw in his hand

#

Outside my house

sturdy robin
#

Or if you wanna go chronologically TDA

#

but 2016 is the first

obtuse canopy
#

how to play doom chronologically:

doom eternal
doom 1
doom 64
doom the dark ages
doom 2016
doom 2

#

HappyGuy trust me

obtuse canopy
#

yes

prime sand
#

Since only the Lost levels are canon

#

not DOOM3 itself

hot bay
floral marlin
#

hi twins

bleak venture
#

just finished TDA

#

i dont think i liked an fps that much before

#

besides tf2

worthy hound
#

TDA is my favorite doom ngl. But Eternal is good too.

copper venture
#

yo

#

where can i find the unity port for quake 1?

#

i need those ranger skins

#

@sullen yarrow

polar halo
#

On a serious note though a few tracks from TDA are really good

#

I am also very tired...

copper venture
#

i noticed theres an option to play the og quake when u launch quake

#

but it doesnt have the bethesda part in it

#

so idk what to do. the other version does but it doesnt let me link

polar halo
#

Would quake be a precursor to doom?

copper venture
#

it came after doom 2

sturdy robin
#

but in desperate need of some better mixing imo
-# although tbf even mick had some bad mixes

polar halo
#

I guess I don't fully understand the actual timeline for each doom..

copper venture
#

it has nothing to do with doom

polar halo
#

Or.. Would it be the... I just lost my thought

copper venture
#

its just made by the same people

ripe girder
#

Doom 1-2-64-tda-2016-eternal is the timeline

#

Quake is a separate universe not connected

copper venture
#

3 is somewhere in there too

polar halo
#

OH alright

ripe girder
#

3 is a different universe in the doom universe. Since all of hell is just 1 hell they share the same hell

#

But its different earth different mars different marine

copper venture
#

how do i get the ranger skin in doom eternal? i own quake 1 on steam but theres no option to link my account on it

#

its not in the original quake 1 either

polar halo
ripe girder
#

Nope

#

The stone tablet depicting the "hero" is presumably doomguy

#

But thats all the connection there is

polar halo
#

Alright so when did doomguy become the slayer we know now

pearl mango
#

between 64 and tda was when he became the slayer

copper venture
#

oh nvm

#

between 64 and tda ig

ripe girder
#

Yesh

pearl mango
#

heya bob!

ripe girder
copper venture
#

all i could remember was lego something

hasty saddle
#

Hello

wise lark
#

hallo

copper venture
#

can someone help me please

copper venture
obtuse vessel
#

Why is it not socially acceptable to eat fistfuls of cheese until you melt them down and put them with pasta

unborn tiger
#

can someone pls hlep my doom keeps crashing i got modinjector to work and i was trying to load in and it keeps crashing even after i went and deleted modinjector

warm rover
#

🐟

pine delta
#

I think its remarkable how the new little nightmares VR spin off looks way more engaging than the actual mainline little nightmares 3 supermassive made

#

The very few things they show in the trailer are more interesting than anything in little nightmares 3

zealous widget
pearl mango
#

morning!

idle sinew
#

Morning morning 🌄

ashen grove
#

Howdy fellas

idle sinew
#

😒