general

[velvet cargo]

we need closer in the new tron movie

[thorn egret]

babymetal invented kawaii metal

[sturdy summit]

I'd say im sad that daft punk isn't back for it, but that's just delusional

[tidal basalt]

Nah I fuck with that boy band from Warframe

[sturdy summit]

The one w temple? I like temple. They/thems rise. Go attack the chuds

[barren cloak]

Good stuff. The fact they're last song I heard was a call to basically "AI exists we are done cuz robots shouldn't compete with music and art"

[tidal basalt]

Temple looks busted

But I'm sticking with my step-dad Baruuk and nuking Qorvex

[barren cloak]

Least that's what I gaiged.

[sturdy summit]

Ohh what song? I might be able to tell you the story behind it

[velvet cargo]

EMPle (doom reference)

[sturdy summit]

I was abnormal over them for a long time

[tidal basalt]

But bro the human temple pisses me off and it's NOT because he's non binary

[barren cloak]

Infinity repeating

[tidal basalt]

Dude is just an asshole

[sturdy summit]

Yeah :] it's their "good bye" letter for all of the fans. It was actually a unfinished demo from 2012 w Julian Casablancas, sorta a part 2 to instant crush.

I have RAM on vinyl

[barren cloak]

Yeah it became one of my favs honestly

[sturdy summit]

My personal favourites are all from human after all and daft club

Aerodynamite is such a banger

[barren cloak]

The fact I'm still getting new disturbed stuff is surprising too off topic new song slaps so hard.

[sturdy summit]

Well technically that's from the b side to aerodynamic but yk

[thorn egret]

from this point out i'm a lost kiwi

[sturdy summit]

Lost kiwi.

[barren cloak]

Yeah new zealand

[sturdy summit]

Daft punk is a big French house duo, mainly from the 90s to the 2010s. They're known for songs like around the world and one more time, and they also feature on two of the weeknd's songs

[thorn egret]

to my dog: stop chewing on the tape on my pc's footrest

[sturdy summit]

Oh and get lucky. Everyone knows get lucky.

[barren cloak]

Few others good bands Falling in reverse and Bad Omens.

[tidal basalt]

i hate FIR

[sturdy summit]

Ourgrhh falling in reverse performed up in Sydney last year and I was so jealous that i couldn't go

[barren cloak]

Bad Omens espicially my roommates got me on them

[tidal basalt]

their singer is an asshole and i just dont like their sound

but good girls bad guys is memegoated

whatever tf its called

[velvet cargo]

yeah

[barren cloak]

Alot of musicians can make good music and be assholes. I mean. Look at Fred durst.

[tidal basalt]

EW

[barren cloak]

[sturdy summit]

One of my old carers broke his femur at knotfest during their performance a few years back [idk what year, whenever they performed at knotfest]

[tidal basalt]

Fred Durst has that football jock energy

[velvet cargo]

(Falling in reverse) isn't that the band that the singer was a creep?

[sturdy summit]

fuck

[velvet cargo]

I love limp bizkit

[tidal basalt]

i feel like he'd walk up to a dude with no body hair and call him girly pop

[barren cloak]

Gunna have to be more specific than that then music world is full of that. Biggest one is P Diddy atm L O L I ain't touching that talk though.

[tidal basalt]

Ian Watkins i think is worse

[velvet cargo]

Thou shall not speak of thou diddy

[sturdy summit]

Idk why but I associate limp bizkit with guy fieri

[velvet cargo]

I'm thinking of that guy
Also I was talking about Falling in Reverse

[thorn egret]

all this talk about musicians makes me feel dumb for only knowing them from JoJo

[barren cloak]

Also cuz u like Daft u may like Tame Impala.

[thorn egret]

araki why did you name your characters/stands after musicians

[sturdy summit]

I do :] I also like justice, im seeing em in December

[barren cloak]

Oh very nice

[sturdy summit]

Baby's first concert and it's in fucking Melbourne

Better than Sydney but eugh

[barren cloak]

I haven't been to a concert in 20 years

[tidal basalt]

wait hold up BB and 3DG are coming to New Orleans in august...

Fuck I hate concerts but I love BB...

im gonna cry

[sturdy summit]

Yeah well at least you aren't sitting in the alcohol allowed zone bcs tickets were cheaper 😭

[barren cloak]

Also glossed over it. BFMV mentioned. During my emo/goth phase Room 409 top tier song.

Waking up had to get up really early for car repairs lol

[tidal basalt]

i love their Venom and Gravity albums even tho their hated

[velvet cargo]

Sempiternal (BY BRING ME THE HORZION) was released on April 1st 2013
WOLF by Tyler, The Creator Was released the Same day
crazy I know

[tardy arrow]

God, setting up windows is fucking miserable

[cunning depot]

i didnt find it that bad, probably becuase all i ever used was windows and a little bit of mac

but yeah theres like 2 billion things u gotta skip and say yes no to

like brother its a fucking os not my secretary

[tidal basalt]

ugh i dread the day when i gotta set up windows 11

sorry for the ping

[thorn egret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1348211699924336680/1361685671399653426/image.png?ex=67ffa81a&is=67fe569a&hm=0a66118aaacf06fee6c4dc04c2035f2cd76e7a1f745f0a4c37a5e9a1790726fe&

[tidal basalt]

...

[thorn egret]

dw i also just recently learned about this

[tidal basalt]

well uhh thanks

[thorn egret]

np

[astral mortar]

you can also shift reply to stop it

[thorn egret]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1348211699924336680/1361686352701423717/image.png?ex=67ffa8bd&is=67fe573d&hm=c7fbd9201d99687862104e30220e3166d1143c6aaebb7389839787b45baca719&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

what does this mean, i always keep seeing this and every time i click allow, it never stops loading

so i just click cancel and it does nothing

[cunning depot]

you gotta allow the app in windows defender ig

[thorn egret]

no, i misworded

i click cancel. the popup goes away, and i can just use the app

just curious what that popup actually does

[cunning depot]

it lets it use the internet

asks you that for most multiplayer games and shit

[subtle rover]

If it’d be my PC it’d probably have me put in administrator code or smth

[subtle rover]

Except people playground isn’t multiplayer?

[thorn egret]

yeah, it gives me the notification oddly

[cunning depot]

not necissarily multiplayer too

[thorn egret]

no wait, it connects to steam

[cunning depot]

like if a game has any sort of online feature, like looking at people's creations

[thorn egret]

the steam workshop

funny thing is, in people playground, i have made a lot of doom related things

such as the marines, and various monsters

[worthy sedge]

Hello again guys

[wicked junco]

guy think of a Doom movie with Arnold Swartchanegar (i dont know how to spell his last name) playing Doom Slayer and it follows him and the white robot guy from Doom 2016 trying to find and kill the Makyrs

[worthy sedge]

Damnit I can't send a gif

[astral mortar]

rip

[wicked junco]

would it be a good movie?

[sturdy summit]

White robot guy is a maykr lmao

[wicked junco]

no the samuel guy the guy with no legs in eternal

[subtle rover]

He IS a Maykr

[wicked junco]

oh shiz i dont know my lore

i need to watch another 27 hour long video

[limpid lava]

Unfortunately </3

[subtle rover]

[limpid lava]

my least favourite plot point ever

[wicked junco]

then what about instead of samuel the knight sentinal we see in eternal the guy with the scar big one too

[sturdy summit]

Oh Commander valen?

[wicked junco]

samuel. the knight

yes

[sturdy summit]

He's pretty cool

[wicked junco]

uhuh so would it be better than the rock

[thorn egret]

i want to see a cutscene of him being tempted by Deag Ranak

[thorn egret]

an african american would better fit the role

Valen has dark skin

[wicked junco]

no no im talking about doom guy

[thorn egret]

oh

not the rock for doomguy pls

[wicked junco]

is arnold swartcheneggar good

[sullen yarrow]

Butchered that surname

[limpid lava]

I believe he was meant to play Doomguy in the scrapped 90s Doom movie

[wicked junco]

oh

[limpid lava]

Rock is Sarge obviously

[wicked junco]

uhuh

[thorn egret]

sarge kelly?

[sullen yarrow]

No, another Sarge

[limpid lava]

nah he plays a character called Sarge in the 2005 Doom movie

[wicked junco]

im confused now

[limpid lava]

though that guy probably was partly based on Sarge Kelly wasn’t he

[sullen yarrow]

Most likely

Both have a similiar fate

[limpid lava]

Karl Urban plays Doom Guy in that film and I think he’s a pretty good fit for the Doom 3 Doom Guy ngl

he’s even called John in the film like the Doom 3 Marine in the Doom 3 novels

[frosty hawk]

PICK UP THE PACE MARINE

[limpid lava]

Doom Annihilation on the other hand has no Doomguy

Which is fine

I actually really hate all of the “doom fans” who mald and whine about Joan

[astral mortar]

I mean Joan basically is Doomguy in that.

[vernal cape]

Still need to read the novelization of 3

Is it any good

[limpid lava]

Yeah essentially

[astral mortar]

When you look past the initial gender thing Joan Dark is basically a Doomguy incarnation.

[limpid lava]

I more meant the stereotypical “Doomguy” isn’t in the film

but Joan is essentially Doomguy

really irks me seeing tons of people including some big doom YouTubers act like that’s sacrilege

[astral mortar]

Yeah it's annoying. Annihilation was shit because it was a shit movie and the characters were shit. Not because the main protagonist was a woman.

If the next Doom game had a woman as the protagonist I literally would not care. If it plays like Doom and is worth my time then I'll enjoy it.

[limpid lava]

Doom II RPG had a female protagonist right?

[tardy arrow]

It's highkey annoying. I figured I'd change to GX but god, this browser feels like utter shit.

[vernal cape]

Watched Doom 2005 the other night and it was fairly okayish. With the many religious references and symbolism in the film it is funny that they refused to commit to Hell being a thing however

[limpid lava]

the characters saying the difficulties out loud was so funny but fuck that movie sucks 😭

[astral mortar]

IMO that's kind of a core tenet of Doom so even just changing that alone is gonna devalue the movie to me.

[limpid lava]

i really wish that scrapped doom film had been made cause while it still probably would’ve been not that great I think it had the best shot of being a “good” Doom film

[vernal cape]

It does for me as well

[limpid lava]

also the ID team being zombies in the film was funny and would’ve been really neat

[vernal cape]

The lack of any hell action sequences and the horror imagery that can come with that is a huge missed opportunity

[raven cedar]

Doom the middle ages

[limpid lava]

i liked seeing the doom 3 pinky in doom 2005 at least……?

[vernal cape]

Not sure how knowledgeable any of y’all are on the behind the scenes stuff for that movie but what was the exact reason for replacing hell with chromosomes?

[limpid lava]

the fps sequence is cool until you realise literally nothing but the pinky actively attacks doomguy

[vernal cape]

Were they nervous they’d anger religious audiences?

[limpid lava]

oh also I like the idea that the UAC name for the BFG is the BioForce Gun but everyone calls it the Big Fucking Gun anyways

[vernal cape]

Yeah, the demons seem like they’re just laughing at him lol

Was kind of hilarious

[raven cedar]

Why wasn’t there a doomguy in the doom movie

[limpid lava]

wdym

Karl Urban is doomguy

[vernal cape]

Really all I’d want is a Doom movie that elicits Alien vibes but with demons

[limpid lava]

yeah

[vernal cape]

Very simple to do, doesn’t take much creativity

Couldn’t even get that

[astral mortar]

I don't think this is ever explained, but I know that the movie was intended to only be loosely based on Doom 3 and that id Software themselves had very little input on the writing.

[limpid lava]

Doom 3 is probably the best Doom game to make a film out of

because it’s the only one with a good story

[sturdy summit]

Doom 3 is great...

[sturdy summit]

Only clear story in the series

[limpid lava]

2016 also has a good story actually it’s Eternal that fucks everything up

But 2016 is also kind of just a less fleshed out 3 in terms of plot so

[sturdy summit]

Eternal is a cesspool, classic doom has fuckall, 2016 is boring

[vernal cape]

The Doom movie following a squad of soldiers was a good call. In a hypothetical proper Doom 3 adaption following Bravo team seems like the no Brainer to me.

[tardy arrow]

Thomas!

[sturdy summit]

Yes!

[astral mortar]

2016's story is essentially a less-detailed ripoff of 3's.

[limpid lava]

Yeah

[astral mortar]

Eternal+TAG IMO is a better story than 2016. It's just that 2016 has better storytelling.

[tardy arrow]

I've got windows set up, Steam, Discord, Winamp, Chrome, and various drivers installed, now it's.. mostly just transfer things.

Roughly 3-3.5 TB of data.

[sturdy summit]

Ah so several hours more.

[limpid lava]

IDK I personally just dislike a LOT of the plot events of Eternal/TAG

especially TAG

[vernal cape]

2016 has more fleshed out worldbuilding, but significantly less character and structure

[tardy arrow]

Yeah, basically.

But now I have 128 gigs and a better CPU.

[sturdy summit]

Tag is the better written side to eternal 😭

[limpid lava]

well tbh I just hate Samur Maykr that’s it >:(

[sturdy summit]

:[

[limpid lava]

TAG DOES NOT HAVE BETTER WRITING LMFAO

[tardy arrow]

Task Manager keeps fucking out though, I think it's scared.

[limpid lava]

“Dr Hayden is the Seraphim!!! He’s been working with us the whole time!!!”

[cunning depot]

that shouldnt happen

[sturdy summit]

ITS BETYER THAN THE CONTRADICTING CESSPOOL THAT IS ETERNAL

[limpid lava]

TAG’s writing is Intern just stating the obvious every 5 seconds

[vernal cape]

The base game hints at this so much that you can basically infer it, so not like it gets points over TAG regardless

[cunning depot]

do you know how much eternal contradicts itself in cutscenes vs the codex

[astral mortar]

TBF Samuel being the Seraphim is not a TAG thing. Eternal itself already heavily implied it. TAG just tied the bow.

[cunning depot]

it is crazy

[tardy arrow]

tbf I'm pretty sure I still need to restart.

[sturdy summit]

Same w vega, his core is deadass a maykr head

[limpid lava]

No IK my issue is the fact that in TAG they just have Intern state it so goofily when you return to the ship 😭😭

[cunning depot]

its always good to do that

[limpid lava]

VEGA was at least heavily implied in 2016 and is still kind of an AI in Eternal

[tardy arrow]

I can just use HWInfo.

[sturdy summit]

He's the intern he's like 21 😭

[astral mortar]

Well, he's an AI in TAG as well.

[wooden trout]

Yeah the Intern being Captain exposition and explanation was kind of strange.

[limpid lava]

Samuel Hayden and Samur Maykr feel way different and I’m not even sure wtf Samuel was doing in 2016

[limpid lava]

(I was Including TAG in that statement)

[astral mortar]

TAG changes shit, but VEGA has always been an AI. Nothing about the new lore changes that.

[vernal cape]

Samuel served the same role in Eternal’s main story

Pretty much

[sturdy summit]

Ehh not the same role

[vernal cape]

He gives a lot of exposition

He’s nicer to listen to

[limpid lava]

I don’t WANT to say Samur Maykr is a retcon given VEGA being the father was always sort of implied

[cunning depot]

but why does he appear as "the father" in tag 1 in the holt?, or is it another thing of the ancient contradictions

[wooden trout]

Maybe it’s the personality of the Intern that’s uh. More suspension of disbelief shattering

[sturdy summit]

He's a more bitchy vega in eternal. He does have more nuance in 2016

[limpid lava]

But

why the fuck did “the seraphim” become “the Seraphim” lol

[astral mortar]

Well, because he's the Father. But the Father is also an AI.

VEGA is just the Father's consciousness without his memories.

[cunning depot]

ooohh right i saw that in the guide thing of yours

[limpid lava]

See I like VEGA being The Father cause it didn’t change much about him tbh

[sturdy summit]

Maykrs, as far as my knowledge goes. Are very similar to an ai

[limpid lava]

Samuel Hayden to The Seraphim changed a LOT

[astral mortar]

Maykrs essentially are AI. They're a race of primordial artificially-intelligent machines.

[cunning depot]

a much more powerful ai than davoth, like, hes an ai thats more powerful than davoth or something

[limpid lava]

And when they finally actively reveal it they do it through Intern yapping😭😭

[sturdy summit]

Changed what 😭 he's still a rich entitled asshole

[cunning depot]

stupid ass khan maykr didnt just throw doomguy into a pit herself

wrong reply

[cunning depot]

stupid ass khan maykr didnt just throw doomguy into a pit herself

[sturdy summit]

I'd like to see the slayer tryin to get out of a big ass pit

[limpid lava]

Idk I think a human who prevented his death via making a robot body trying to do what’s best for humanity was more interesting than Oh yeah he’s like right hand man to “God” and like he MADE HIMSELF that human body and blah blah blah

why was he even harvesting argent in 2016 what are you doing bro

[cunning depot]

nah a pit with LAVA, and SHARKS !!

[limpid lava]

and then he’s kind of against argent in eternal??

[astral mortar]

None of this part changed. All of 2016's lore about Hayden harvesting Argent remains the same.

[sturdy summit]

He didn't make the human hayden, he was always a mf w a god complex as well 😭

[limpid lava]

i guess it’s just kind of strange he was doing that

[astral mortar]

Hayden is against Argent production in Eternal because Hell is creating it by torturing the souls of countless people. This is not the same Argent as in 2016.

[sullen yarrow]

The God stuff could be really interesting imo if it spent more time in the oven. As it is right now, I don't care for it and I want a DOOM game without it

[limpid lava]

What I mean is he stole the human body he doesn’t start out of human

[sturdy summit]

Ehhh we don't know that

[limpid lava]

When is it implied the source of argent changed between games

[cunning depot]

samur when he was awakened by doomguy : you owe me your fucking life, you are my little bitch, i own you

[limpid lava]

wdym there’s literally human body growing facilities in urdak which have one body missing

it’s very implied he got himself a human body

[sturdy summit]

I don't think he realised how argent was made until he was uploaded to the fortress

[cunning depot]

why would they steal a motherfucker with brain cancer

[limpid lava]

…how?????

[astral mortar]

The Codex shit. 2016's Argent is Wraith Energy siphoned from the Well and purified with UAC tech. Nekravol's Argent is Wraith Energy transported to Nekravol and combined with the souls of Hell's victims (the Essence).

[vernal cape]

Hayden doesn’t give a shit about Wraith suffering apparently lmao

Not out of character but just amusing

[astral mortar]

Argent Energy does not refer to one substance but rather any form of Wraith Energy that is tampered with or purified. It can refer to different things, essentially.

[limpid lava]

So you’re telling me those annoying demons in doom 3 created argent huh /j

[sullen yarrow]

You're telling me a shrimp fried this rice?

[sturdy summit]

Iirc argent is being syphoned from a fissure somewhere. Where they found vega

[limpid lava]

aanyway idk I just don’t really like maykr Hayden that’s a personal thing I just found him more interesting as a human

[astral mortar]

2016's Argent is siphoned from the Argent Fracture, which IIRC is implied to be a rift or portal connected to the Well. It's leaking into Mars.

[vernal cape]

Not a controversial take

[limpid lava]

he got less interesting to me when I found out he was right hand man to God

“God”

[sturdy summit]

Close enough 😭 fracture, fissure same thing

[vernal cape]

Lowercase god

[sullen yarrow]

Mysterious character's mystery gets revealed can ruin them, especially if done rushed. Guess what they did...

[limpid lava]

It wasn’t even really a mystery they set up in 2016 though

[sturdy summit]

Lowkey tho samur's transfigured form does teach us a bit about maykrs

[limpid lava]

Like does Samur Maykr even get set up in 2016?

I am aware VEGA being the Father was

[sullen yarrow]

He was mysterious at the time, there certainly was some intrigue around his character

[astral mortar]

The existence of the Seraphim is said in 2016, yes.

[sturdy summit]

The seraphim is mentioned

[limpid lava]

please correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t it lowercase seraphim in 2016

[sturdy summit]

The word seraphim to describe a single seraph is wrong.

I don't think they gaf abt it

[limpid lava]

I swear it was lowercase seraphim in 2016 and then they changed it to Seraphim in Eternal

[astral mortar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1313873565145235506/1361699252773847161/image.png?ex=67ffb4c1&is=67fe6341&hm=518411264960e9da38572692653775dc8b004fb9252ff4ca3b2fad0dc1dc3a8c&
The wiki shows uppercase but you should check the actual 2016 Codex.

[limpid lava]

I’ll reinstall 2016 to check later I guess

[astral mortar]

Regardless, the Slayer's Testament is referring to an individual. The accompanying image showed a picture of the Slayer wrecking shit while a robed figure watches from beyond.

[sturdy summit]

Me n the wife fucking them demons up

[limpid lava]

i guess it’s just not really connected to Samuel that much in 2016 but whatever

[sturdy summit]

It's on his desk as well 😭

[limpid lava]

i honestly think they should’ve just not shown a human Samuel in 2016 then I think people would call it less bullshit

[sturdy summit]

Oh and the whole thing of him activating the demonic crucible

[astral mortar]

Oh it definitely isn't. Samuel being the Seraphim is blatantly a retcon and not something intended in 2016. I'm just saying that the Seraphim was, at least, established to be an individual character in 2016.

[limpid lava]

like if it was like “oh shit there’s no human picture of Samuel” then I think people would be more accepting

[limpid lava]

i know,,,, I was just hoping for a chance it wasn’t a really bad retcon,,

[sturdy summit]

Human hayden looks like he'd bitch slap a person over coffee.

[limpid lava]

they didn’t really need to make him the seraphim… :( it felt like they just wanted to keep him relevant

[astral mortar]

"Bad" is subjective. I personally like this retcon.

[subtle rover]

I put Hayden in a school project, he punched me into a wall

[limpid lava]

fair enough

[sturdy summit]

He's thrown a child before I just know it

[limpid lava]

i think the ONLY thing it really fixes is how tf he got his hands on VEGA

[subtle rover]

Do we know how strong he was as a human

[limpid lava]

cause VEGA was always implied to be ‘more’

so ig it makes sense as to how he’d have it

[sturdy summit]

He had cancer. He ain't gonna be super strong 😭

But. Throwing kids isn't hard.

[sullen yarrow]

Unless he's Deadpool

[limpid lava]

otherwise tho it kinda sucks but I respect you liking it it’s not for me but whatever

[subtle rover]

Oh shit, well the one in my stupid school project was strong enough to bend metal

[sturdy summit]

I can bend metal [a spoon]

[empty hamlet]

hey guys

[subtle rover]

I meant metal as in a blast door or similar

[empty hamlet]

wow

[sturdy summit]

He walking thru it like koolaid man.

Doomguy is that kinda person too

[subtle rover]

Nuclear bunker

[vernal cape]

Got all of the PDA’s in 2016, time to read

[sturdy summit]

Doomguy A posing as he burst through Samuel Hayden's personal bunker

[limpid lava]

I hope TDA connects Hebeth to 3 blatantly

[subtle rover]

Imagine if my iteration of Dr Hayden would go head to head with the DOOM Slayer and nobody would be losing

[limpid lava]

Then my dream of 3 and the RPGs being canon will be realised…

[astral mortar]

3's definitely canon.

[sturdy summit]

Yeah lmao

[limpid lava]

the rpgs too :3

[subtle rover]

No

[astral mortar]

I can't speak on the RPGs though. Probably not.

[sullen yarrow]

Final DOOM

[limpid lava]

Depends on your take on Doom Resurrection

Cause Doom Resurrection follows on from 3 and then you find the destroyed remains of S.A.M from Resurrection in Doom II RPG

[sturdy summit]

Tbf shit said outside the games directly is always super iffy

[sullen yarrow]

These are games

[limpid lava]

Personally I like to think every Doom game is canon mostly because there’s not really any reason to think they aren’t…?

[sturdy summit]

I mean the canonity of doom 3

Iirc it was confirmed in a stream but idk

[limpid lava]

Hugo flip flops on it

[sturdy summit]

Exactly 😭

[limpid lava]

He said it was canon but then later said to Tyler McVicker that he misspoke and it isn’t

[frosty hawk]

I thought it was an alternate universe

[limpid lava]

And I think that was the latest statement on it…?

[thorn egret]

due to the existence of the Soul Cube, we can assume that Doom 3 is partially canon to the main universe

[subtle rover]

I think Mick Gordon said ‘DOOM Eternal was always DOOM II’

[sullen yarrow]

Or it's just a silly easter egg

[limpid lava]

Hang on lemme back up my “Doom RPG and Doom II RPG is canon” standpoint :P

[sullen yarrow]

I really would not treat the Soul Cube's cameo as something necessarily true to the plot

[sturdy summit]

If folk accept that doomguy is catholic [iirc that's from the books] we must accept that doomguy has daddy issues smh 😔 /j

[thorn egret]

yeah, we know, his dad's a priest and he hates his dad's guts

[sturdy summit]

was his dad a priest

[thorn egret]

i dunno you said it before

[limpid lava]

Oh wait I can’t send images hang on

[sturdy summit]

All I know of his dad is from the books lmao

[subtle rover]

What if his dad was Deag Nilox or any if them

[sturdy summit]

I said he didn't like his dad, idk if i said anything abt him bein a priest

[thorn egret]

misremembering

[limpid lava]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1319300323273080893/1361702077985980680/IMG_3305.jpg?ex=67ffb762&is=67fe65e2&hm=323517ac60f4b35364fd306f9dc4ebda6eadadb632a1894f7dd11be418f018e9&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1319300323273080893/1361702078233186335/IMG_3306.jpg?ex=67ffb762&is=67fe65e2&hm=e0eff1dc11f4fac3df615b8662409e511ad61b7a5c1792cce42e1f3145bdb65c&

[sturdy summit]

Lemme get the quotes from the novels

[limpid lava]

The destroyed remains of a Doom Resurrection character in Doom II RPG

and Doom Resurrection follows on from the plot of Doom 3

[sullen yarrow]

And what if Resurrection isn't canon

[thorn egret]

maybe it's the same case as the Soul Cube

[limpid lava]

okay but then we’re just saying things aren’t we

[thorn egret]

just an easter egg

[sullen yarrow]

Idk your argument of these games being canon lies on a game that we also do not know if it's canon or not 😭

[cunning depot]

and easter eggs are never to be taken canon

[sullen yarrow]

I feel like you should at least push Resurrection's canonity to support your claim

[cunning depot]

if we do not know its canonity, i feel we should keep it noncanon until stated otherwise

[limpid lava]

Actually Doom II RPG’s Hell levels have the same names as Doom Resurrections

[sturdy summit]

Said quotes

• Knee deep in the dead, by Dafydd Ab Hugh

Page 120

She smiled and shook her head. Arlene hadn't forgotten my father, a pathological liar and petty thief who ended up doing twenty-five to life for his fourth felony conviction... trying to run down a state trooper with his pickup truck. He died in Vacaville two years later, from a cerebral hemorrhage, they said.

Page 120

My father was the pettiest, lowest, meanest man I ever knew. He couldn't even understand the word "honor." He never knew why I joined the Corps, never would have understood if I told him I did it for him... so I would never be him.

Page 238

He humiliated me all over again, as he had twenty years earlier; we'd been in Hawaii in a museum, before a life-size (huge) statue of Hawaii's greatest king. I shrank away from him, praying to God no one knew he was my father; but he followed me, saying, ""Did you see what I did? Watch!" And he did it again!

The books aren't canon, but are referenced multiple times in eternal.

By the name of our mc :]

[limpid lava]

So it’s very implied it’s the same Hell with the same character that was destroyed in Hell in Resurrection given yk it shows up in the same named location

[sturdy summit]

Flynn taggart is real and true

[limpid lava]

So it’s not just the Easter egg corpse it’s the actual levels too

[limpid lava]

You play as a member of Bravo Team from Doom 3

[sullen yarrow]

And that means it's canon?

[thorn egret]

Flynn Taggart...

why would doomguy put his name as his passcode is he stupid

[limpid lava]

I think in this case you have to prove it isn’t canon rather than it is

[sturdy summit]

Yes he is, he's a marine after all

[limpid lava]

If it follows on from the plot of a canon game you have to prove it isn’t not that it is

[sullen yarrow]

Why does he even need to put a passcode on a video game on a computer that's in a fortress floating around in space

How fucking anxious does one have to be

[sturdy summit]

He's scared of samuel or vega watching him or smthn

[limpid lava]

I mean a zombie breaks into it in the post credits scene so clearly he does need to

[sullen yarrow]

It's a mobile spin-off

[limpid lava]

Doom VFR is a VR spin off and it’s still canon

[sullen yarrow]

It's an obscure piece of media, you have to prove it's canon here because there is genuinely no default reason to assume so

[limpid lava]

Why does the platform prevent it from being canon?

[limpid lava]

Doom 64 was confined to one console for years

[thorn egret]

he doesn't want vega accidentally stumbling upon "DAISY PICS"

[sullen yarrow]

Idk probably because a game that releases on console is more important to the writing team than a mobile game from 2008

[limpid lava]

The default reason to assume so is because it literally follows on from the plot of Doom 3

[sullen yarrow]

That does not need to mean it's canon lol, you're just stating what the story is about

[limpid lava]

Hugo Martin literally said Doom 3 is not canon on a stream but we’re treating it as canon in the chat so evidently we don’t actually care what the writer thinks

[limpid lava]

how do we know if anything after Doom 1 is canon then

[sullen yarrow]

Hugo isn't the writer lol

[sullen yarrow]

Because it's connected to entries we do know are canon

Connected in the way they happen AFTER

It happening before does not bring as much credibility

[sturdy summit]

Hugo is a idiot when it comes to shit

[limpid lava]

Doom Resurrection happens after Doom 3

[thorn egret]

why are we trusting Hugo to handle the lore, unless he is a lead storywriter, then i'lll take that back

[sullen yarrow]

I didn't say it like that 😭

[limpid lava]

John Carmack led Doom Resurrection bruh

[sullen yarrow]

And what comes after Resurrection? Two games we do not know if they're canon or not. That is my point, nothing is tying this in

[frosty hawk]

Which character was it?

[sullen yarrow]

What does this have to do with anything

It's still a mobile spin-off from 2008

[limpid lava]

This means literally nothing because spin offs tied to one platform have been canon twice

Doom 64 and Doom VFR

[sullen yarrow]

You are just hellbent on misunderstanding me huh

I say mobile because it's mobile, a fucking smartphone, it's not comparable to console games, I said that already

[limpid lava]

Why not

[sturdy summit]

VFR literally has Samuel hayden

And we are doomguy in 64

[sullen yarrow]

Because console releases are more important, more people will play them, writers will want them to tie them in harder

[limpid lava]

“It’s on an inferior platform” isn’t exactly grounds for “it’s not canon” that’s literally the most subjective and non-story related comment ever

[sullen yarrow]

Mobile releases go under the radar most of the time and Resurrection was a tech demo

[limpid lava]

VFR was a tech demo

[sturdy summit]

It still has Samuel hayden

[sullen yarrow]

I'm not stating grounds for "it's not canon" I'm stating grounds for "we have no reason to immediately assume it's canon"

[sullen yarrow]

BUT IT WAS ON CONSOLE

[limpid lava]

Yes and Doom 3 has the entire location and Bravo and Delta teams from Doom 3

[sullen yarrow]

crazy how doom 3 has something from doom 3

[limpid lava]

Subjective statement that means zilch

[sullen yarrow]

I literally explained why it's not that stupid of an argument right above

[cunning depot]

changing the keybinds is fucking with me so hard 💔

[limpid lava]

wow that’s almost like it’s canon because the characters and plot follow on from a previous game

[sullen yarrow]

Yes, they follow on from a previous game, but explain to me why that means the game is inherently canon, why does being a continuation need to mean it's important to the main timeline, enlighten me

[limpid lava]

usually things that continue a story are canon to that story

yk like how Doom 64 continues the story from Doom 2

or VFR connects to the story of 2016

[sullen yarrow]

Yes, but DOOM 64 has a continuation of its own that we KNOW is canon

DOOM Resurrection is continued by two games we have no idea if they're canon or not

[limpid lava]

Does Doom VFR get a follow up

[sullen yarrow]

I didn't bring VFR up because I do not know its story details

[limpid lava]

the answer is no it does not

[sullen yarrow]

Why are you even bringing VFR into this man, where did I say it's canon

[limpid lava]

Because VFR literally is canon

It’s another example of a side story confined to one platform which didn’t get followed up

[stable gust]

hello

[limpid lava]

hi

[sullen yarrow]

How many times do you want me to tell you this

I highlighted it being mobile because it's a MOBILE game, not because it's a ONE PLATFORM game

And the statement of it being one platform isn't even correct, VFR is on PSVR and standard VR

[stable gust]

hello mf

[limpid lava]

again this isn’t a story based reason this is just saying “mobile games aren’t canon because they’re mobile” which is just a statement based on absolutely nothing

[thorn egret]

doggy is sleepy... and he's sticking his head under the stove get tf out of there

[limpid lava]

I’m not continuing this conversation because you clearly have 0 interest in actually changing/evaluating your perspective because you believe it cannot be canon by default

[sullen yarrow]

And how many times do you want me to keep telling you I am not saying it's not canon, I am just saying we have no reason to by default assume it's canon

[stable gust]

what the hell is going on

[sullen yarrow]

If you release a game on a shitty tiger electronics handheld do you think the writing team will value it more than something on a bigger platform?

[limpid lava]

We have a reason to assume it is canon because it continues a story of a canon game. That is a big reason.

[thorn egret]

canonicity arguments

[sullen yarrow]

That is literally such a dull point though when will you understand that means NOTHING

[stable gust]

ah ic

[limpid lava]

Continuing a story means nothing when it comes to being part of a story?

[thorn egret]

and the rights and justice for mobile games

[sullen yarrow]

It means nothing when there is literally zero evidence in the main timeline this continuation actually occurs

It happening is not a valid argument at all

[stable gust]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-comendo-picoca-gif-9669437860846841235

[limpid lava]

What’s the evidence VFR happens

[sullen yarrow]

I don't know because I didn't play it! Crazy! Almost like I already told you!

[limpid lava]

there isn’t any it is never addressed again but it is canon

[stable gust]

is vfr a vr doom game?

[sullen yarrow]

Would you by default assume it's canon if there's nothing proving that?

[limpid lava]

the only evidence is Dr Peters’ name in 2016… almost like how the protagonist character in Resurrection is from Doom 3 too

[limpid lava]

I would assume it is proven by being connected to the main story

VFR and Resurrection are both tied to and follow on from the main story entries

[sullen yarrow]

Okay, earlier you said I can't change my argument, but you're the one spinning in a circle repeatedly about a point I keep telling you means fuck knows what

[limpid lava]

Yeah (it’s really mid tho)

[stable gust]

ight

[limpid lava]

“it’s a mobile game” Vs “it continues the story”

[sullen yarrow]

You also earlier said you don't wanna continue this argument, which, frankly, I do not too, because you just do not grasp what I am saying here

My mobile game point wasn't to discredit its canonity it was literally just to add to the likeliness the writing team doesn't consider it

[limpid lava]

Obviously I’m not going to change my mind in a story-related debate over a point that has nothing to do with actual plot

[sullen yarrow]

Very well then, do as you please

This has been a massive waste of time

Have a good day

[thorn egret]

so are we done?

[blazing briar]

🤫

[thorn egret]

right, umm, i kinda want to continue that revenant drawing but i'm having a hard time doing his armor and jetpack

[stable gust]

finally

[sullen yarrow]

Get used to it, stuff like this happens often online

[limpid lava]

Which Revenant design are you drawing

[thorn egret]

2016

[limpid lava]

nice nice

[stable gust]

nice, currently playing doom 2016

[thorn egret]

2016 has my favorite revvy design

[limpid lava]

2016 has a lot of my favourite designs

[thorn egret]

it looks the most undead out of all the skeletons we got

[stable gust]

doesn't 2016 and eternal's revenant looks the same?

[thorn egret]

nope

[stable gust]

they look the same or maybe is just my aisan eyes making it worse to differentiate

[sullen yarrow]

The Eternal Rev has no blood stains and has weird metal shit on its head

[thorn egret]

2016 is very bloodied, with intestines coming out of its still decomposing midsection. it has pupilless decaying eyeballs, and its skull is splattered with blood

Eternal's on the other hand is a bit boring. the rev's skull is perfectly clean, with no bloodstains, and more cybernetic attachments, and it has not so appealing glowing yellow eyes

[stable gust]

i see

[frosty hawk]

The retro revenant from Eternal is my favourite design

Translucent revenant from Doom 3 goes hard too

[wild tapir]

I am Dooming it

[thorn egret]

never got to that yet

[gusty merlin]

Oah yeah I'm dooming it

[last ginkgo]

Doom Eternal revenant looks amazing in the posters, ingame their eyes look like an LED plaster instead, like it is missing post processing

[thorn egret]

Eternal never disappointed with its posters

[last ginkgo]

And am sure the revenant poster was used aggressively in marketing.. then you meet them ingame lol

[carmine gust]

New revenant design is sick

[sturdy summit]

Ourrh vr chat makes my head feel weird.

Head be hurting. Be feeling light.

[thorn egret]

motion sickness sheesh

[sturdy summit]

Nawh it doesn't feel like motion sickness

I get that often enough to know when it's not that

My hands don't feel right.

[thorn egret]

is it the radiation making you feel lightheaded?

[sturdy summit]

I hope not.

I already have derealisation issues I really hope that's not being affected by vr

[thorn egret]

do your eyes hurt?

[sturdy summit]

No not really, yknow the feeling of being underwater? That's how my head feels like

oh this feels like a aura.

Brb gotta go do shit

[thorn egret]

aight (damn i felt like a doctor)

[sturdy summit]

Nvm it's just cuz I wasn't wearing my glasses

Whew haven't felt like that in a hot bit.

The lenses are messing with my eyes

[thorn egret]

glasses grade?

[sturdy summit]

huh

Uh lemme get my glasses

I have one weaker eye

That's why I feel sorta strange

[plain lintel]

Just to make sure this is the official doom discord right?

[sturdy summit]

Yup.

[tardy arrow]

Mhm.

[thorn egret]

welcome

[sturdy summit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1278629590797123602/1361720407475880136/20250320_153552.jpg?ex=67ffc874&is=67fe76f4&hm=245639fe76d1a16cff52829fa85d4e4f9a68385300658a1518afd86ff1aab2f2&

Thick ass lens

[tardy arrow]

I could make a joke at the expense of you but I'll be nice.

[thorn egret]

them glasses thicc

thicc enough to be substituted for tempered glass in workplaces

[tardy arrow]

I need to wait an hour, then restart for windows updates, then start trasnferring my actual steam library.

[sturdy summit]

Mf just call me a blind bitch idc 😭

[tardy arrow]

nah.

[sturdy summit]

[thorn egret]

he's closer to being exposed

[tardy arrow]

I'm so tired.

But I need this transfer to finish so I can restart and set the next one going.

[sturdy summit]

Oh to be tired before 1am

[thorn egret]

it's 1:16am in australia?

[tardy arrow]

11:16 for me.

[sturdy summit]

In nsw yup. For nyx it's 11:16

[tardy arrow]

I've been doing shit all day.

[sturdy summit]

She lives on the other side of the country lmao

[tardy arrow]

Stressed the fuck out over swapping components around and it's catching up to me.

[thorn egret]

it's 11:16pm here

.....oh my gosh i'm so up late it's 11pm

[sturdy summit]

I haven't bar going out for a drive for like a hour

[thorn egret]

i'm home alone, with my dog, with my rats, with my pc

[hollow dove]

I just realized that I had Metro Exodius in my Steam wishlist before playing to Metro 2033 Redux or knowing about the game

[thick flare]

i mean i get what ur point is (hugo shouldn't be treated as the end all be all, esp when whatever he says on stream isn't actually in the games) but he is one of the writers on eternal, so

((eternal had four writers on deck while '16 only had one..... no wonder its lore is so dang stuffed n messy compared to '16))

[cold furnace]

Anyone have a recent group photo of id software team?

[thorn egret]

the codex entries on the demons were honestly well written

[cold furnace]

Doing a project for school, would be a huge help

[thorn egret]

i think they broke up long ago

[tardy arrow]

Chances are extremely low.

[thorn egret]

the classic ones, should i say

[tardy arrow]

The only real image I can find is a photo of the women that work at id from 2019.

[thorn egret]

modern team is pretty big

[thick flare]

talking abt the whole retcon mess of a lore eternal has

[thorn egret]

i was talking about 2016

accidentally left it out

Spectres have by far the worst retcon

[thick flare]

ah i see

[cold furnace]

That would work

Thank you

[sonic pollen]

i wish id had a office in missouri that i could work at, i wonder if they would be willing to teach me game development (more specifically on the programming side)

would be sick to work on DOOM ngl

they're located in Texas, right?

[sullen yarrow]

Yeah but he also says stupid shit

[pastel bridge]

Yo

[thorn egret]

yep

[sturdy summit]

You'd be better off going to a community college, they wouldn't hire you if you don't have experience.

[sonic pollen]

Fair enough, thanks

Also I some reason can’t figure out if my ram is 5600 or not (I need more) it says 5600 but when I look it on Amazon it has the same model but says 6000

[tardy arrow]

Check task manager, it'll tell you there.

Majority of RAM kits will have the same model in varying speeds.

[carmine gust]

what does this mean

[sullen yarrow]

I think I know

[potent helm]

TDA Cacodemon is mid, they should have made it separate, the thing is more "CacoBrain" or Duke Nukem Octobrain inspired than it is Cacodemon

[carmine gust]

let them answer

[sullen yarrow]

Alrighty then

[faint ivy]

what did RedPanda mean by this

[gusty merlin]

me when im unnecessarily violent

[frosty hawk]

The violence has escalated

[thorn egret]

tell that to the 5 Doom 3 caco enjoyers (i'm one of them)

[frosty hawk]

I’m the 2nd

[sonic pollen]

thought i found it but nope trying to find the exact model number, almost had it too

[potent helm]

doesnt even look like doom 3 caco other than the surface level le tentacles and exposed brain

TLDR I want more enemy variants in my doom games. I was let down by Eternal changing the barons, now im flabbergasted that the cacodemon is being shafted for some redesign AGAIN.

(DOOM 3, 64 cough cough)

[frosty hawk]

Doom 2016 Baron is a must have mod in Eternal, I can’t play without it

[thorn egret]

do you think the new caco should have colored blood?

[thorn egret]

similarly, there are some mancubi (probably) encountered on Mars in Eternal

i kinda want those variants to use the 2016 look

[ornate crystal]

is doom 2016 worth playing when you've already played eternal?

[thorn egret]

i've seen someone complain on reddit that after getting a taste of eternal's fast pace, they can never return to 2016 cuz it's 'too slow'

[frosty hawk]

Yeah?
It’s a bit slower than Eternal but still good

[ornate crystal]

alright

thank you

[slow falcon]

Hello men and women

[rose patrol]

Have y’all seen the new Revenant? Looks like the hooded skull meme

[ornate crystal]

hi AGM-65 Maverick

[stray flame]

Skeletor has entered the Dark Ages

[slow falcon]

revenant has always been a meme in all doom games

[sturdy summit]

Chat it's still being weird

It's been almost 2 hours

THE FUCKING MOTORBIKE IS BACM

ITS 3AM GO TO SLEEP

[thorn egret]

it's 1am.

[sturdy summit]

Worth it.

[thorn egret]

i should go to sleep and here i am posting shitposts and finishing this stupid 💀 drawing

[sturdy summit]

Draw shitposts.

[thorn egret]

good idea

[sturdy summit]

My fucking head hurts and I don't got painkillers.

[thorn egret]

do you have carers with you

[sturdy summit]

It's almost 3:30am they're all asleep 😭

[thorn egret]

that must be painful to sleep off

how long have you been on the headset?

[sturdy summit]

Only a hour, and only 3 times so far 😭

[thorn egret]

ah. i'm not doctor-y enough to be able to give any more advice

[sturdy summit]

[thorn egret]

ⁱ ʰᵃᵛᵉ ᵐⁱⁿⁱᵐᵃˡ ᵐᵉᵈⁱᶜᵃˡ ᵏⁿᵒʷˡᵉᵈᵍᵉ

[sturdy summit]

I probably should drink more tea.

[thorn egret]

🍵

is that your comfort drink? (ik, lotta questions)

[sturdy summit]

Ourgh I could fuck up some strawberry matcha rn..

[misty eagle]

The first message of this channel

I think

[sturdy summit]

Yeah lmao, iced tea is one of the few fluids I can force myself to drink

[thorn egret]

woah.

[thick flare]

i don't think this server was official when it got started lol o7 o7

[sturdy summit]

Probably not lmao

[misty eagle]

Wait what lmao

[thorny hinge]

Not Thomas, but it honestly is for me, along with Vernor’s

[thorn egret]

you're saying that this was just a regular fan server, then bethesda found it and said "this. this is gonna be the official doom server for generations to come"

[sturdy summit]

Another comfort drink of mine is chai. [yes ik it's a tea]

[thorny hinge]

Remind me to join the Romero server for the emojis

[stark wave]

I desperately need to draw more but literally any time I feel creative my mind always puts that to doom modding/mapping

[raven cedar]

Why does doom 2016’s combat feel so much nicer compared to eternal’s?

[sturdy summit]

I'll put you in my calendar again.

[thorn egret]

excerpt from Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse

"Oh, I love chai tea."

"...chai tea...??? Chai means tea, bro! You're saying tea tea! What would you think if I asked you if you wanted coffee coffee with a side of cream cream?"

[sturdy summit]

Genuinely as a person who loves drink making that's my favourite part of it

Correcting folk.

Passive aggressively

[stark wave]

how do I stop this please I need to draw my awsome OCs again...

[rose patrol]

Yo I can’t wait for Doom 2016!

[sturdy summit]

Draw em for doom wads.

[thorn egret]

draw your OCs in those maps, shredding demons

[stark wave]

I have zero idea how that would work aside from pixel art which I am terrible at

[sturdy summit]

Pixelate the drawing 😭

[slow falcon]

darker lighting and less fortnite-yness tho eternal's glory kills added to 2016 doom would be epic af

[sturdy summit]

Ehh eternal's kills are repetitive.

[thorn egret]

i like to watch 2016 and eternal gameplay without hud, and without the flashing of glory-killable demons

[cunning depot]

would it be epic af?, probably, i guess so, would it need alot of redoing the animations and stuff due to the id engine being a different version?, yes

[thorn egret]

feels very immersive

[slow falcon]

true but if added to doom 2016 (mixed with 2016's own glory kills) it would be genuinely awesome

[slow falcon]

yet they are creative

[sturdy summit]

THE MOTOR BIKE IS FUCMJNG BACK

[cunning depot]

what

[sturdy summit]

THIS IS THE SECOND TIME IN THE HOUR

[thorn egret]

they had hoped the addition of the Doomblade would add more creative glory kills

nah, it's cut off arm, cut off head, stab head, stab chest, cut in half

[stark wave]

fair. funnily enough I've had an idea for a comic series Im currently working on (in the concepting stage) where the characters are drawn but the background is a doom map (a bit similar to my already existing comic strip series Carl & John) so maybe that could do?

but then I'd be mapping for the drawings instead of drawing for the maps- Im thinking about this too much am I?

[frosty hawk]

Smooth and fluid, quickswapping isn’t as much as an incentive in 2016

[sturdy summit]

I want to see him actually put effort into the kills. They just feel so weak.

There's simple ways to fix the whole weakness surrounding the movement

[slow falcon]

how about the break the arm and stab the bone it in the face glory kill tho

[thorn egret]

i miss the visceralness (made up word) of 2016's hands on kills

[sturdy summit]

Make the slayer struggle slightly to remove the blade. Make it have resistance. It never does.

[thorn egret]

that's a unique kill, but it gets repetitive because you perform the kill on zombie soldiers, hell knights, and whiplashes

[vernal cape]

A sacrifice for quicker and more fluid gameplay I imagine

At least that’d be the rationale

[slow falcon]

or the break off horn and smash entire head with it or stab it in the eye

[thorn egret]

pinky

[vernal cape]

I do generally prefer 2016’s glory kills though

The Barons and Mancubi get some fun ones

Rage power ups are glorious too

[thorn egret]

barons get the cyberdemon treatment

i honestly don't like the berserk powerup in Eternal cuz i'm tired of seeing the same kill animation pulling imps apart by the waist and tugging soldiers' heads off

again, and again, and again, and again....

[sullen yarrow]

Doesn't it only appear once anyway

[stark wave]

glory kills that also involve weapons would be cool. annoying for ammo conservation but they'd still be pretty cool.

[sullen yarrow]

We have one like that

[frosty hawk]

the cut ones were cool

[thorn egret]

spider mastermind

[sullen yarrow]

Bingo

[frosty hawk]

I like how the 2016 glory kills were varied with environment and which area you attacked

[stark wave]

I said glory KILLS, not just one

[sullen yarrow]

And I said one, not some

[vernal cape]

Yeah, plenty of variety. Unfortunately could be a pain when trying to complete those glory kill challenges lol.

[thorn egret]

but it doesn't matter if you have 0 argent cells left after tje fight, because voila, the slayer hath suddenly generated enough argent energy to power up the bfg

[slow falcon]

You know what the kind of glory kills i want are the ones that involve the demon's own claws/weapons/melee so doomguy uses the demon's own weaponry to finish him off instead of his own

[sullen yarrow]

How would melee attacks work with those animations

There's not really anything to do with demon punches

[slow falcon]

invokes more vengeance+ is more brutal

[thorn egret]

gargoyle: doomguy cuts off its arm blade and decapitates it with it, and the other one where it makes the gargoyle cut itself in half

mecha zombie: doomguy points zombie's blaster into its mouth and fires

marauder: steals its axe and decapitates it with it

[slow falcon]

yep stuff exactly like those

[thorn egret]

i listed off existing examples

[slow falcon]

i would like to see them in Doom TDA as well

[slow falcon]

ik

[thorn egret]

• arachnotron: feeding it its own grenades

we had plenty of those examples

[slow falcon]

yeah these are my favs

I thought of a The Dark Ages glory kill actually

[thorn egret]

we aren't getting the traditional glory kills in TDA

[slow falcon]

Doomguy simply smashes his opponent with the middle of his shield into the ground or even better into a wall

[slow falcon]

ik

[thorn egret]

the animation would be difficult, since the demon's position has to be taken into account

though it could simply just be near a wall for this unique kill to work

[slow falcon]

just some coding that senses that the demon is near a wall?

[thorn egret]

yep, i thought of that

[sturdy summit]

I think 2016 actually has a few.

[slow falcon]

Btw I thought the bulky thing on the forehead on doomguy's new TDA helmet was meant to smash demon's heads with

[vernal cape]

It does for possessed and imps. Not sure for the other demons though.

[raven cedar]

When will they add the bonk back

[slow falcon]

imagine bonking the final boss lmao

[sturdy summit]

The metal thing on his head? It kinda looks like a crown or smtnn similar imo

[slow falcon]

"Do you have nothing to say to your creator before you strike him down?" BONK No.

[slow falcon]

yeah

[astral mortar]

Fire moment

Some people would say 'well, he said 'No', that's still something'... he said no after he struck him down. Doomguy has perfect timing

Also love how Davoth has a chance to play dirty and use the crucible in a last ditch effort, but he just throws it away. He just accepts that he lost fair and square

[rose patrol]

How many hours do y’all have the longest put into a game? Here are mine:

• [ ] Halo: The Master Chief Collection (2014) - 1,850.6 hours
• [ ] Garry’s Mod(2006) - 1,734.5 hours
• [ ] Halo Infinite(2021) - 1,514.5 hours
• [ ] Team Fortress 2(2007) - 1,502.3 hours

[astral mortar]

Elden Ring

[cunning depot]

terraria

[astral mortar]

1300 hours or so

[cunning depot]

2100 hours

[astral mortar]

ok maybe not 1300 but definitely a lot

[sturdy summit]

I think I'm bout to hit past 2000 hours on fo4

[real shoal]

Does anyone know if there's a chance we get another collaboration with fortnite for doom the dark ages ( if the last collab with fortnite they said there wouldn't be another collab pls tell me I wasn't there for it)

[astral mortar]

Yeah I think I have well over 700 hours on Elden RIng. Maybe close to 1000. honeslty unsure

[stark wave]

TF2 (503.6)
DOOM Eternal (101.7)
GMod (88.3)
Doom 64 (83.8)

[bright bronze]

Bro memes aren't allowed here?? What if they're doom memes? XDDDD

[thorny hinge]

Still no

[frosty hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nope-no-way-noo-absolutely-not-gif-20244171

[bright bronze]

Aight aight I hear you

[subtle rover]

Idk any others than BTD6 with my 130 hours (a joke)

[subtle rover]

When the server gets too serious

[bright bronze]

LOL that's good to know

[sturdy summit]

We lost nice shit bcs folk were racist n shit.

[bright bronze]

Ayee that kinda shit ain't cool tho... No racist memes

I know too many servers that have no limit on all that so ig respect for this one at least having boundaries XDDD

[rose patrol]

Awesome

[sonic pollen]

Too bad I hated school and sucked in it

Not to mention colleges require funding which I don't have and im not having my parents spend thousands of dollars for nothing

[astral mortar]

If you're going to school for something you actually care about then it can be somewhat tolerable

[sturdy summit]

I forget that folk don't just... get free schooling 😭 [Australia moment]

[slow falcon]

problem is even argent energy doesn't even work on the doom slayer lorewise even if the DL played dirty

Doomguy is just way too brokenly op

[hollow dove]

Same for me, education is free for me except if I go to a privet school. Free education is a part of the constitution and public school are free and managed by the government. The equivalent of high schools are managed by the region (equivalent of a state but not independant/federal, the same laws apply across the whole territory)

I know it seems complex but it isn't (for me at least).

[sturdy summit]

Ehh sorta the same here

[blazing briar]

1st most played game, doom eternal: 2545.3hrs

2nd most played game, ultrakill: 61.8hrs

😭😭

[plain lintel]

Warframe 1000 hours

Minecraft 2000 hours

Genshin 500 hours

Cod maybe 1200

Fortnite 10k

[thorny hinge]

I've been getting back into Warframe after years of not playing it

and Jesus fuck my Titania Prime ain't keeping up as much as I remembered she did lmao

jfc lmao

[hollow dove]

Warframe is my most played game, it's amazing but I just don't have the motivation to grind for the gear needed for the steel path

[thorny hinge]

I just can't grind lol

I don't got folk to play it with, really

and I'm locked out of trading (anxiety my beloved)

[hollow dove]

I have old friends who I discovered by playing to Warframe, I'll maybe see if they can invite me to their new guild because damn, the game was really fun and it has some insane lore

[plain lintel]

I only hop on when a new story mission drops tbh

[cold siren]

hello :3

[misty ridge]

hello

[frosty hawk]

hampter

[sonic pollen]

what if i make doom the dark ages into an mmo

[sonic pollen]

fair enough

[sonic pollen]

must be nice lol

[sonic pollen]

the what

oop i never even noticed that lol

[sonic pollen]

nice

[spark summit]

welll well well

long time no see huh

[sonic pollen]

?

[sonic pollen]

you talking to me?

[spark summit]

no just in general

my last message

was in march 13th

[sonic pollen]

oh damn yea last month lol

yep

approximately 1 month before dark ages :D (Im craving it so badly rn)

[spark summit]

yup

frfr cant wait

[sonic pollen]

This wait was far worse than the wait for eternal

and the funny thing is eternal was announced like 2 years before it came out i think

i remember waiting so impatiently in 2019 like it was yesterday man wtf is going on

WAIT A SECOND

CALL OF DUTY USED IDTECH engine?

[cunning depot]

theres like 10 cods bro which one

[sonic pollen]

cod 1

the very first one

had no idea

[cunning depot]

no, it was made on an engine that was based upon the idtech 3 engine

[sonic pollen]

gotcha

nvm yea you right i read it wrong

ngl i hope idtech 8 is the last of the idtech iterations for a while at least

the spec requirements shot straight up from idtech 7 to idtech 8

[sweet grove]

Doom best game oat

[sonic pollen]

real

DOOM + Halo 2 + Half Life (1&2) + World of Warcraft Vanilla (2004)

[sweet grove]

I never tried those

[sonic pollen]

im currently in my first run of half life 2, amazing series

[sweet grove]

Oo

[sonic pollen]

yea

def worth a try for sure

yea that's a fair point ig

true that

i think a lot of modern AAA devs definitely overlook optimiziation

for sure

idtech (and obviously enough idsoftware) is the goat for a reason

[rich wagon]

Yo has anyone heard of the game carnivores? Nightdive studios, the studio who remastered doom 1 and 2 did a voting poll a couple months back and they might remaster carnivores based on the votes yet I haven't seen any confirmation

(Obivously it's a niche game but once you see it you may recognize it)

[sonic pollen]

carnivores: dinosaur hunt?

[rich wagon]

Yup

[sonic pollen]

no i havent heard of or played that but it seems like there's mixed reviews about it on Steam

[unreal remnant]

I be loving the new revenant design

the lack of eyes gives them uneasy feeling, its so good

[astral mortar]

I just hope he's an actual threat this time

Total pushover in eternal

[unreal remnant]

a lot of demons did feel like pushovers in eternal

they felt more like stressors than threats

[earnest jay]

the ballista makes heavy demons trivial with its mods and base fire

[unreal remnant]

yeah yeah

[earnest jay]

lock on burst made super heavy demons trivial at best

[rich wagon]

Has it came out yet? Are you sure it's the retro game or the reboot

Cuz the reboot ye

[sonic pollen]

no i mean the one thats on steam

it says it came out 2022

[rich wagon]

Ye not that specifically but they might be remaster the game and give it the doom 1+2 treatment and let them add mods, which are miles better than the original

[rich wagon]

Original games came out in 1998 onwards

[sonic pollen]

gotcha

[sonic pollen]

oh i see

[rich wagon]

The voting poll was cast 2 months ago so ye

[sonic pollen]

oh i never saw it was just confused

[rich wagon]

Undetermined but I do sure hope so

[sonic pollen]

i need halo 2 remake with remastered original UI + demons souls remake level graphical fidelity

[tardy arrow]

There's already been a remake, and it really doesn't need another.

[rose patrol]

Oh thought we were talking about the Oblivion remastered

[tardy arrow]

Oblivion remaster is wild, but I support it.

Think I'd rather wait for Skyblivion, but TES has never been of much interest, personally.

[trim slate]

Hey guys

Got guardians of the galaxy, resident evil 2 and dragon ball fighterz in one buy

[limpid lava]

Awesome

GotG the game is so heat

[sonic pollen]

no shot

there's actually a war of the worlds game coming out

imma be honest

i wanna see them cook with ANYTHING, be it quake, doom, wolfenstein, etc.

And (IF) it's Quake please do it justice like how they did with the 2016 reboot of DOOM

Although, I would like to see ID at it's fullest potential of DOOM, as they have cooked with every entry so far since 2016, I feel extremely bad for Quake fans.

and now that im thinking about it ive never had a top 5 oat game company / dev list, but ID might be top 3 oat for me personally

[thorn egret]

what are some of your dumbest arguments, irl and online?

[thorny hinge]

a PDF file.

I had an argument over a fucking PDF file

[thorn egret]

the pedo, or the actual file?

[thorny hinge]

the actual file

I refuse to use PDF for the former

horrendous acronym

anyways

[sturdy summit]

Tryna explain how that no, transmen can get pregnant. It's just almost impossible to find one willing 💀

[thorny hinge]

downloaded a PDF of a free reference book offline so I could take from that when needed

I mentioned it to my friend and they were like "just keep the tab open"

"yeah, but I want to read it offline"

"but it's a waste of space, keep the tab open"

[thorny hinge]

also, I should make this clear, it's an actually free webbook

wanted to study photography from it as it had some pretty good information

[real forum]

Well I had a huge argument with a coworker when I was 19 cuz they tried to CHOKE ME while on the job and they thought they were justified 😭 Worst part is, after I put in a complaint with HR the lead manager was trying to fire BOTH of us but the other managers (except for one, which was the offenders mother working there) stopped them

[novel dagger]

Yo wsg chat

[thorn egret]

why would it have been a waste of space, when a regular webbook PDF is like 500KB-3MB

[thorny hinge]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[thorn egret]

oh...

[real forum]

Then the guy gets fired, and his manager mother also quits and threatened to sue us... For firing her kid for assaulting me on the job

[thorny hinge]

I mentioned that to them, and they were still like "keep the tab open"

[sturdy summit]

real. oh mb it's a waste of space. Like a book maybe? Ooo spooky

[thorny hinge]

mfer a web cache is probably bigger in size

[thorn egret]

did the lawsuit succeed?

[real forum]

LMAO nope

[midnight mortar]

OH

[thorn egret]

nice

[midnight mortar]

I use much

[real forum]

And the whole reason he did it was because he spilled something and the manager on duty wanted me to help him clean it up, he was yelling at me to go away but the manager still wanted me to help. And then the dude gets pissed and does that shit 💀

And I was arguing with him for a good 10 minutes after cuz he justified it going "I told you to go away and you wouldn't" like brother you're an idiot

[midnight mortar]

Yes

[thorn egret]

disturbed guy

needs to be locked up in solitary confinement for unprovoked assault

[real forum]

Idk what happened to him afterwards but I hope he got help cuz he definitely had some issues

[misty eagle]

Nuke

[thorn egret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1348211699924336680/1361887827519995954/Screenshot_2025-04-16-09-57-19-990_com.adsk.sketchbook.jpg?ex=68006460&is=67ff12e0&hm=b932dd587cc367bf78a8cdf527149ec05ac9ea6797620a8e9396aa6944d8e1d0&

ah, yes. intestines. haaahh my favorite to draw.

[sturdy summit]

Use a thick pen then erase the inside.

That's how I usually draw em

[thorn egret]

....lemme demo that somewhere else

[thick flare]

o7 o7

[misty eagle]

Hello

[sturdy summit]

Oh my God

My caseworker made me Easter shit 😭

Maybe I was too much of a hater.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1278629590797123602/1361890985226801203/20250416_122756.jpg?ex=68006751&is=67ff15d1&hm=25e5e1e93fa2dcfb6ae8a7fd6bffb298a742501d4d155af5d98f2464413cc775&

[carmine tide]

Stand ready for my arrival, worms

[static perch]

id fuck those cupcakes UP

i love chocolate

[sturdy summit]

They're so good 😭

[static perch]

how is anyone in chat

im tired

[thorn egret]

bummed. i'm quitting learning japanese

all input, no output quickly kills a learner's motivation to study, plus if you have nobody to talk to in the language you want to master

[static perch]

dang

[thorn egret]

and besides, i've humiliated myself enough using broken, fucked up grammar

[pine delta]

You’re already here ain’t you

[shell glacier]

Hi

[thorn egret]

i think the animal in your pfp is named boykisser? i've seen him in a lot of memes

[shell glacier]

Yep suits my personality

[thorny hinge]

Ello

[shell glacier]

Wsup

[thorny hinge]

Nothing much

I released an update for a project and 10 minutes later I’m already working on the next update

Mind you, the one I just released took me 3 weeks

Why do I do this to myself?

[shell glacier]

Idk... I just make VR chat Avis bru

[thorny hinge]

Speaking of that game…

I’m weirdly curious how good it’d be for game photography

Or well, what I call a fucking planned screenshot

[static fractal]

what game scratches that adrenaline high mobility itch that doom eternal has? titanfall 2 used to do it for me, albeit very casually, but since the servers were hacked for like a year, only the hardcore players are left and it's got a lot harder. i dont mind losing in battlemode but my fall from tf|2 grace has been steep. i've tried out the ultrakill and mullet madjack demos, they seem good. any other games that force fast paced action with x/y movement, highly preferably with a grapple? multiplayer a big plus. i'm currently enjoying bm 2.0 but finding a match can take a while

[limpid lava]

you should try the full game for ultrakill :P

[static fractal]

well of course i'll do that one 😂 looking for some mp grapple along side it

[thorny hinge]

Echo Point Nova

Basically just Tony Hawk x Titanfall

[static fractal]

thanks! it does look like tony hawk x Titanfall lmao

[thorny hinge]

Yeah

That game basically allows you to causally go 100+ MPH

Also rocket grappling is fun

Basically you take a rocket, fire it, and then immediately grapple it

And you’ll just start flying

I hate fast paced games like that, but I somehow loved EPN

So if I of all people like it, it’s probably good

Free demo on Steam if you didn’t notice it yet

[sturdy summit]

It's great.

[sweet grove]

Doom best game oat

[thorn egret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1348211699924336680/1361931008118755338/1ecc91e2-3c18-4d45-bd7f-54568cd373d5.png?ex=68008c97&is=67ff3b17&hm=ad9cdf18171c2eae6c54a5b08b96aaeb7e3430a34943a9fc8b935493768b6410&

finished line art

RRAAAAAAA

[stable gust]

Hi

[thorn egret]

big puppy eyed revvy

[thorn egret]

yo

[stable gust]

Hello frost

[stable gust]

Nice

[thorn egret]

thanks man

[uncut merlin]

Yo

[stable gust]

hellol hellboy

[thorn egret]

my class announcement group chat has gone to shit

there is homophobia, there is make up shaming (i dunno it's a thing ig), there is face shaming, there is intelligence shaming...

sooo i left, i had no intention to join in myself

[old solar]

why is this the first thing i see when i open up discord bro

[real forum]

Is this like an informal group chat or one set up by a teacher or school?

[thorn egret]

yeah, it's informal

we could talk about whatever there, joke there, shitpost there, etc.

also, we have no teachers there to monitor our activity in the gc

though we have the class president, VP, and other class officers desperately trying to keep everything in check

[solemn sentinel]

I'm doing extra life mode in doom eternal

[frosty hawk]

Have fun with that

Classic Mode on SGN ML was a fun experience

[thick siren]

Anyone else noticed the badass graffiti in the Reclaimed Earth level of TAG2?

Makes me want to see a Slayer Cult ngl

[sturdy summit]

Not a cult, it's more punk like than a cult imo

[thick siren]

I know. But there are already people who worship the Slayer as an angel of vengeance. I'm just saying I kinda want to see that taken to its logical conclusion. Like, yeah, a few guys painting his symbol on their stuff or tattooing them on their bodies like soldiers do with the Punisher is easy to see. But also I'd imagine there would start to be a noticeable uptick in instances of desperate people quietly praying to the Beast to save their world. And then especially after the death of the Icon of Sin, have some people just become almost zealots, openly revering the Slayer as a war god, with some militia groups even going out in war parties to fight demons (which normal folk would see as suicidal).

Then again this may just be the 40k fan part of me talking. I just think it'd be a neat idea.

[sturdy summit]

Yeah no that's definitely the 40k speaking

He's viewed as how jinx is in season 2 of arcane imo

[thick siren]

Never saw it.

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-doom-slayer-gif-25844921

[sturdy summit]

It's surprisingly good. She's seen as a icon, I'd suppose. Not religious, but a icon [punk culture shit yk]

It's hard to explain 😭

Kinda like uh

Idk if you've read the hunger games, but katniss everdeen. How she is seen

[thick siren]

The only reasons I haven't seen it yet are because I stopped watching Netflix a long time ago and I'm not a League fan. I think I understand what you mean, though. Not a religious figure, but still a face for the cause.

[sturdy summit]

A symbol of hope.

But arcane is very good. I'm not a league fan either, but jesus fucking christ it's a beautiful show

[thick siren]

I saw the Ashes and Blood part a month or so ago and was like "Oh yeah I can tell this shit is peak."

[sturdy summit]

Think the art style of into the spiderverse w the writing of the most heartwrenching shit you've ever read or watched

[hollow dove]

I stopped playing to League of Legends in June 2024 after 3 years because the game sucks but the Lol animated series are awesome, even if I am not a League fan anymore

[sturdy summit]

There's lesbians so it's the best

[thick flare]

doomguy club

[sturdy summit]

It's the most average wlw romance too

it's so fucking violent

[thick siren]

I'm a major fan of women so this is also a win.

(I've never seen one in my life)

[tardy arrow]

We're pretty great.

[sturdy summit]

As a ex woman, and a woman kisser I can confirm