the-dark-ages

[final dune]

I guess the praetor suit from 2016 was poly modeled too instead of being sculpted

[warm ibex]

I'd say sculpting was part of the process

[final dune]

Yeah all the models I've been making are poly modeled. Gonna get zbrush in a bit mefinks

Retopology is scary

[warm ibex]

It's terrifying

I've been learning character modeling recently, about to start on my third character. whole process is both easy and terrifying lol

not a convo for TDA chat tho so I'll end it there

[spiral crow]

Okay, listen, Doom The Unholy Crusade

[obsidian shard]

Ok i figured out HOW you do it

Serrat HAS to have the empowered bullets

(its very inconsistant

[spiral crow]

You just realised that now?

[obsidian shard]

Its for the Fire Breath attack

[final dune]

There's a fire breath attack for serrat?

[spiral crow]

HUH? wdym fire breath attack?

[obsidian shard]

Its a cut attack but its still in the game and triggerable

I'll send it to #videos in 5 minutes

[spiral crow]

I do know it was cut, i was just confused like "what Dark Ages is bro playing"

[obsidian shard]

its in #videos

[warm ibex]

WOAH that's awesome

very good find man

[spiral crow]

Interesting....

Sorry for the late reply, replaying Doom TDA again

[graceful rivet]

I WISH they stayed

[spiral crow]

Same here honestly

I wonder what let them to cutting those features for the dragons off

[signal jacinth]

is dlc out yet

[stuck basalt]

🙉

[cobalt fog]

Fire attack would’ve made Serrat so much cooler lol

[spiral crow]

https://tenor.com/view/the-boys-homelander-the-deep-boys-angry-gif-17484443382225121615

[versed quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/guillotine-stock-photo-france-french-revolution-revolution-gif-18045036508342205833

[quick ruin]

Is it controversial to say that the dragon levels and mech levels are boring

just started today

[spiral crow]

No not really, some love it for the power fantasy it gives you, some find it boring due to not being in depth compared playing on the ground as the slayer

[obsidian shard]

Pretty much got it on spot lol

[quick ruin]

I see, trying to 100 percent the game and the dragon sections are annoying bc finding the secret landing spots are a pain

and the mech parts are just spam r2

[spiral crow]

I personally enjoy them since they offer pace breakers in between the slaying of Demons and i'm just into mechs and dragons in general lol

But i can understand people finding those parts boring and not enjoyable

[crude kraken]

mech sections are better than at launch but still kinda underwhelming

i wish they were more dynamic

[idle swallow]

idk why, but I enjoy the NuDoom games in such a big way that I don't with Classic Doom and Doom 3 even though I enjoy those games too

[idle swallow]

I actually like those portions of the game too!

punching, shooting and killing giant demons in a mech feels really good

[spiral crow]

Makes me wonder how in depth the Atlan and Serrat's section were during development because it feels like they were supposed to play a bigger part but weren't able to be fully realised

[crude kraken]

definitely i dont hold a grudge because game dev is hard and i know the devs had way more in mind for those levels

turret sections though

literally nothing there whatsoever

[spiral crow]

I remember back during the xbox direct when they showcased the Atlan and Serrat's combat with Hugo talking about mini bosses and full suite of abilites, but then the game comes out, none of that was in the game

[uneven dragon]

The dragon is the one that needed a rework

[crude kraken]

i was expecting proper dogfights when i saw serrat in the trailer

[quick ruin]

the hell ship chasing could definitely be better

[crude kraken]

definitely

theyre on tracks and dont even fight back

[uneven dragon]

Hell Ship chasing is the most fun part of those levels too lol

[spiral crow]

I mean they could've done it where idk you get a objective by protecting a part of the command station and dogfight across the skies with sentinel ships helping you alongside

[crude kraken]

shredding the sauron ships is pretty satisfying i like the sound of serrats powered up shots

and the giant cacos

[quick ruin]

its a real shame because I love my cat and want to have a challenge while fighting with serrat

[crude kraken]

it doesnt even have to be a challenge any depth with the gimmicks at all wouldve been appreciated

[quick ruin]

is the hebeth in eternal (in mars) the same hebeth as the second mission in dark ages?

[signal jacinth]

WELL IS IT BROO

[obsidian kite]

Doom

[twilit stone]

Eternal

[warm ibex]

yea

[hazy pasture]

Yeah but it's called "The Lost City of Hebeth" in Doom Eternal and just Hebeth in TDA. So that could mean that the Eternal version of Hebeth was a part of the overall layout and structure of Hebeth

A city yeah

[stuck basalt]

no 😭

[golden quarry]

Guys i have question will there will be new chapters of doom tda in the future?

[fading bone]

there's a DLC coming yes

[golden quarry]

WHEN ITS COMING

[fading bone]

not announced

but this year

[golden quarry]

oh

Then how did you know

[fading bone]

because they have talked about it

[golden quarry]

Oooo...

[obsidian shard]

All currently publicly shared info is available here

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FdbLLjyz4xoto6AyutcgkoxggIWnbhW2Jnrf0f76OqE/edit?usp=sharing

[split gate]

Hydration tip: Drink a bottle of water every time someone asks about the DLC release

[graceful rivet]

I'm going to drown

[elder raven]

one pushup every time

[worldly musk]

I cant stop peeing

[final dune]

Water intoxication 😕

[alpine pilot]

[spark elm]

[spiral crow]

I'd drown from drinking that much

[solar spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/drink-water-gif-14255645

[vast silo]

Hello everyone, this is my first time here 😃

[hard pier]

Same : D

[earnest mulch]

Welcome!

[errant osprey]

Welcome

[vast silo]

Thank you for the welcome

[wild cliff]

Q) hi guys, just got the game. When doing a Chapter, are all the secrets, colelctibles, etc self contained (i.e. 100% completable)? Or some can only be obtained by unlocking later mechanics and require backtracking?

[warped saffron]

Everything is self-contained. You can do a 100% run without replaying levels

[vast silo]

In my opinion, you can replay levels only for the sake of the challenge, and for secrets, you just need to know where they are.

[solar spoke]

self-contained. The DLC may be a different story though

[wild cliff]

why not gold? I am still in just chapter 4... gold will letme squeeze in upgrades? I am playing on ultraviolence

[fading bone]

im not sure what that person means but you can get everything in one playthrough if you look enough

you can get everything by replaying the level as well if you miss something and then quite once you get them and it'll count

[glad geode]

[cobalt fog]

You know what’s funny

I 100% a dark ages playthrough yet it doesn’t count as it bc one specific level would not let me get all the gold

It’s bugged

[warm ibex]

bugged in what way?

[graceful rivet]

Can you show us?

[cobalt fog]

Not at home rn so no

But, essentially I’ve collected all gold on unholy siege 1

All of it, and yet it says I haven’t got it all

Which is cap bc I’ve searched all over the fucking map and used a YouTube video as well

[potent parcel]

Yeah siege 1 did that to me too

[warm ibex]

how much does it say you're missing?

[cobalt fog]

I do not remember

I could prob go back and screenshot it later

[cobalt fog]

Glad to see I’m not the only one lol

[spiral crow]

I never got that bug, i got the bug that does the opposite of that where it tells me i got all of the gold and and stones even though i didn't collect any of them

[harsh egret]

same

[spiral crow]

It annoys me beyond anything in the game everytime i look at the map to check if i got everything

Now i can't trust that tracker so i gotta look all around the map just to make sure i actually have everything

[obsidian crow]

Anyone else getting this bug where all the demons just disappear?

Idk if its just in the ripatorium or in general

I parried a demon and literally every demon disappeared

happened twice for me now

[spiral crow]

I never saw that bug before

[obsidian crow]

yeah the enemy bar is still low at the top, and the round hasn't changed. So Im not just missing demons

[errant osprey]

I finished the campaign on Nightmare tonight without using the Super Shotgun. Using the Super Shotgun in the game is a lot of fun, but I think it makes the game too easy. The Heaven Splitter rune shield also gives me the same feeling and I don't use it.
The good thing about Dark Ages is that each weapon is so well made that using each one has its own unique feel.
I used the Pulverizer more this round and enjoyed it.
The only weapon I didn't use much in my 250 hours of Dark Ages experience was the Grenade Launcher.

[golden quarry]

What the

[obsidian shard]

DLC info

[golden quarry]

do we have to buy it or it will be in doom tda premium like that?

[obsidian shard]

If you have the premium edition you will get the DLC

[golden quarry]

Yeah i have the premium ed

Okay

I wish the dlc comes out before July

[young sandal]

im predicting its somewhere around the games 1 year anniversary

but thats obviously not true i suppose

[green estuary]

Yeah occasionally ripatorium rounds will straight up despawn
No idea why

[alpine pilot]

[stark bough]

I mean the ancient gods part 2 did kind of just drop out of the blue. At the time we all knew it had to come out before the one year anniversary of eternal. But they had like no advertising or anything until about a couple(?) weeks out from its release. So we could see a similar thing here but I wouldn't count on it.

If anything I hope that there is a good bit of advertising for it so people who may of only played the game once come back for the dlc too

[onyx flax]

How does the game run on lower graphics settings? I have a 3070 so I'd probably have to turn the setting down to even run the game

[placid bough]

I’m a COD bro and I gotta say it’s like a breath of fresh air playing DOOM TDA…this game has excellent devs who really take their time in making an enjoyable gameplay experience. Most importantly Hugo and his team UNDERSTAND what their community wants!

[wide siren]

seems very unlikely with this dlc, as much as i’d like it to just drop out of the sky suddenly too. would make more sense for them to market it to a larger audience too

[onyx flax]

I also heard they added path tracing and all of the guides are from before that. Are they all still relevant?

[wide siren]

yeah, you don’t have to play with path tracing. and on a 3070 i definitely wouldn’t

[burnt summit]

[random sand]

runs well enough. before my upgrades i ran it with a 2060 and got around 80 fps on low graphics

[random sand]

not even my 5060TI handles path tracing

[wide siren]

yeah, and in doom tda, though pretty, it doesn’t really make a massive difference

[random sand]

true. looks gorgeous either way. TDA might have some of the best graphics i've seen from a game. especially noticable in the cutscenes

think the only games that give it a run for its money that i've experienced are games like Ghost of Yotei or Crimson Desert

[onyx flax]

Idunno it doesn't look that much better than eternal (which was already incredible)

[fading bone]

it looks waaay better than eternal

eternal can look a bit plasticy with the figures at times

the faces arent super great

and all the detail in the environments in TDA are incredible

also if you just look at all the details in all of the demons and everything. it's so high quality its insane

[delicate sparrow]

With some tweaks with hdr sliders and putting sharpness at 5.00 the game doesnt look bad at all.

On series S

[wide siren]

matter of taste but there’s a lot of things graphically way better than eternal

[delicate sparrow]

Dark Ages really shines with its ambient lighting,the rest is more about artstyle and geometry

Technically the graphics are better in dark ages like alot better. Eternal is just more sharp resolution wide and clean. Two very different styles of graphics

[harsh egret]

I will never understand how some people can look you dead in the eye and say tda graphics look worse than eternal

[violet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/russia-bear-fight-punch-boxing-gif-2263997067189457650

Wasssup

[delicate sparrow]

Because eternal design is more clean and on the spot. So naturally since dark ages has alot going on artistically people might think its a downgrade. I recently played eternal again and dark ages is miles better graphically

[obsidian shard]

It's basically Art style vs Graphics Debate

Eternal has worse graphics but an Incredibly Strong Artstyle

Dark Ages has Very good Graphics and a Strong Artstyle (Dark Fantasy-Everything is bigger and grander)

[idle swallow]

I really like Eternal's art style but I swear to god its graphical fidelity is 100% worse than 2016

[random sand]

TDA has realism like crazy. Eternal is visually stunning but lacks details that TDA has

the detail that blew me away most is you can see the larynx/voice box on characters move when they talk. not to mention the detail on the textures like Doom Slayer's armor

[wide siren]

i love the enemy projectile designs

and the work on other such effects too

[jagged meadow]

I've had the exact opposite experience

doom 2016 is all brown slop

[green estuary]

it isn't, but it can seem that way because everything in that game is bright enough to sear your retinas, whereas in 2016 stuff is a lot darker which makes it harder for our eyes to pick up on the lower quality

although the resolution of 2016's lightmaps are indeed higher than eternal's

but if we're talking texture quality and detail then eternal is a direct upgrade

[uncut thistle]

Eternal has cracked up level design tho
I still can't believe someone made the backgrounds of eternal's levels lol
the level designer went bonkers in eternal

for me visual wise
eternal = TDA > 2016

I got spoiled by hell, argent d'nur and urdak levels in eternal and TDA that 2016's sci fi mars base levels feel dull to me

tho tbf I also always liked the hell levels in classic doom more than the mars/earth/deimos base ones
guess I never changed since childhood XD

[supple oracle]

not true, eternal has better geo fidelity they switch from megatextures to lightmaps images, megatextures need alot of time to process, in 2016 alot of texture are blurry until you get close to it, but I have to admit 2016 nailed the environment aesthetic because there wasn't alot of variety in art themes

[onyx flax]

ok so first level I was getting like 60 fps and in the second one I'm at 30 what is going on here

I turned down the graphics to the point where I can see flickering dots when standing still because the rays are barely tracing and still can't break 35 standing still in an empty room

I have a 3070 the game should run fine no?

[harsh egret]

the game should run just fine on a 3070 yes, are u on a laptop by any chance

[onyx flax]

no

[harsh egret]

thought it might be an overheating issue which laptops tend to have, but maybe it still is that, idk

[onyx flax]

maybe

[harsh egret]

worth a check

[onyx flax]

I'll try cleaning up my pc tomorrow and see if that fixes it

[harsh egret]

should probably check first to see if that even is the issue

[green estuary]

idk, it runs fine on my 4060 laptop

[harsh egret]

when i tried it on my laptop it overheated like crazy but i also have a weaker laptop with a 3060

can differ from model to model tho

[green estuary]

ye that’s just a cooling issue
My gpu never goes above low to mid 80s

[harsh egret]

true, my laptop needs repasting probably too

the laptop goes to 90+ after like 20 mins of playing

[lunar trellis]

Then buy a new one

[harsh egret]

"just buy a new one"

[spiral crow]

https://tenor.com/view/really-are-you-kidding-me-got-to-be-kidding-youre-kidding-me-seriously-gif-6521278384595665157

[harsh egret]

thanks mate

[lunar trellis]

Np gunslinger

[harsh egret]

also I dont need to, i have a pc but i have a laptop for travel

[spiral crow]

[lunar trellis]

Fight me doom

[spiral crow]

https://tenor.com/view/hugo-martin-doom-doom-eternal-doom-2016-giga-chad-gif-8667813971741982445

How about no

[lunar trellis]

Scary?

[pliant jasper]

No idea what channel specifically to ask this in, but I have acquired every single mele upgrade in the game, every upgrade for everything possible, and this trophy "mele expert" won't pop? Has anyone got any idea on how to fix / trigger it? Has it been patched? Can't seem to get it to pop it's weird. - thank you🙏

[little vortex]

-# you played dtda on a laptop?.......

[harsh egret]

#the-dark-ages message

i simply tried it when i was traveling

[little vortex]

Oh ok

Bc yeah that would melt a laptop 😭

[pastel pebble]

Steam DB got some new updates

[obsidian shard]

It was just some Standard steam update stuff

[pastel pebble]

[harsh egret]

if it mentions it affects other apps as well then yeah its nothing to do with the game

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/491020118780805140/1500623624569360535/image.png?ex=69f91c28&is=69f7caa8&hm=4813402653f321dbf6e34282c92833c8090aed5b79701b46290439ea78f1bd1c&

[merry sapphire]

any news about the dlc

[merry sapphire]

doom eternal art direction is really good due to the fact its really really cool and fresh

we need more Realistic triple A games to look more "Arcadey"

[foggy fable]

Coming eventually soon

[delicate sparrow]

Just finished dark ages a second time,last time i played it was at launch.

Really good game ngl

[frail bloom]

Ye compared to launch it's much better now

It's the little things they did that made it so much better

[spark elm]

On chapter 20 on playthrough 4 and omg I always struggle so long to find my last remaining wolf statue

I’m like “I will never ever find it”

[errant osprey]

Removed slow motion
Added quick swapping of melee weapons and shield runes.
And made some areas harder
This makes Dark Ages much better than when it first launched

[spark elm]

I found it… it is VERY hidden though

[errant osprey]

I started Eternal again tonight.
And when I compare it to Dark Ages in terms of story, I feel really sad.
Seeing King Novik killed.
What happened to Marok that we all know.
The Sentinels being killed and Commander Valen's regret.
All of this makes me feel strange and interesting.
This feeling will probably be even more so if a Civil War game is ever made.

[spark elm]

the one that’s like hiding under a bridge

[errant osprey]

It was really hard to find that statue.
Well, it was hidden somewhere, lol

[spark elm]

Oh for sure

Chapter 21… difficulty, no doubt always SPIKES here from chapter 20

I try to be like “one titan at a time please”

[hearty edge]

Saem

I have to use a yt video

[hearty edge]

Thats also the last one i find

[hearty edge]

Ngl i do feel like chapter 20 might be the hardest one

And botb's first encounter

[spark elm]

14 is pretty brutal as well.

[hearty edge]

The gore nest at the start of reckoning is a bitch tho

[spark elm]

Final Battle would be fine if multiple titans wouldn’t flank you at once.

[hearty edge]

Is that one the one where u get the bfc

[spark elm]

yeah

[hearty edge]

Yea

I hate the whiplashes always but i ESPECIALLY hate then there

[hearty edge]

The cyclops sniping you from afar while youre dealing with 2 titanas up close are bad

Then the old one's battle is probably the easiest in the game so not much there

[spark elm]

Dude that one gets scary

on like nightmare

[hearty edge]

The attack where he goes up in the sky and summons lots of tentacles can get me sometimes

But its mostly spam space

[spark elm]

Also he’s got this attack that almost doesn’t let you escape, which is the scary one

[hearty edge]

Tho that mindset sometimes gets carried over to ahzrak and i die bc i jump when i try to parry

[hearty edge]

I've only gotten trapped by it like twice ngl

You can dash to get outside of it easier

[spark elm]

I just COOKED the Titans

Minimal Atlan damage taken, like not a serious amount

[burnt summit]

[spark elm]

Oh snap!!! The Old One defeated with 200 Atlan health left! CLOSE call!

IMPALER SAVED ME ON EA

[hearty edge]

the impaler is always my go to for the bosses

at least the 3 main ones

for the champions i go accelerator

[spark elm]

yea accelerator/cycler is real good for those kreed shields

[hearty edge]

the bad thing with going with the impaler (or almost any weapon) with kreed is that he moves a lot so you might miss

i actually go with the ssg for him bc of the spread

it'll at least hit him a lil bit

[agile sonnet]

What i did for Ahzrak, the chain shot gun (i forget the name, it shoots the ball tho) and the thingy that charges that weapon fully when parrying a green attack, just do that, and it does a LOT of damage

[spark elm]

Ah shit I died at the last second of this run… at least I didn’t die on chapter 21…

I returned the nightmare settings to normal and it costed me…

in that last cutscene, for killing me, take that Ahzrak

I swear I was parrying perfectly!!!

[worldly musk]

I finally beat @mystic barn's preset...nerfed, but still the hardest preset anyone has ever made.

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-eyebrow-god-of-war-gif-27143599

im gonna be playing it again today and i WILL beat it

[split gate]

And then after, you’ll beat the preset 🗣️

[elder raven]

beating the preset on dtp at 500 and dtd 50%

[solid nacelle]

I just tried that preset for the first time myself, the spike in difficulty between round 1 and 2 is insane

[worldly musk]

See even the Ripatorium GOAT's are struggling, i'm telling yall its the hardest one to date

[solid nacelle]

Like

What do you even do

[delicate sparrow]

I tried a bit ripatorium yesterday. It was fun. Will try sadistic later today

[worldly musk]

Maybe this will help ya'll, from the man himself:

...AOE enemies are paired perfectly with both hitscan-type enemies and bruiser-type enemies, with the hitscanners chipping away at you while you’re stuck and the bruisers beating you while you’re already down. I decided to balance the AOE and hitscan enemies for the first round, slowly introduce the bruisers in the following round, and then an all out frenzy for the final round. I felt as though too many fodder enemies would provide easy shield bash and health collection outs for the player, so I restricted their numbers. If I can admit one failing of this encounter, it’s perhaps too few fodder. If I were able to place the fodder more strategically around the arena instead of the random spawning of the current Ripatorium 2.0, I feel as though this encounter would be far more approachable. Alternatively, the respawn mechanics of 1.0 would be just as effective, giving the player a little more leeway more frequently.

An unintended consequence of this encounter is how much focus is drawn towards the player’s toolkit. I feel as though the relationship between guns, shield rune, and melee weapon is paramount to successful completion of this encounter. To me, the Pulveriser is the best choice due to its haste effects upon a three-hit combo. This then makes the gauntlets a desirable choice for the melee weapon as they recharge quickly. Both of these weapons in combination with one another allow the player to zip around the arena and avoid AOE attacks before an enemy can even launch them. This then leaves the shield rune, and I find all except the turret useful. Freezing enemies in place, putting them in a faltered state and getting armour back, or effectively cleaving chunks of health from enemies make for effective counters, especially in a parry-heavy environment like this one.

[random sand]

I tried yesterday. I should do it more. It was very fun. Really challenged me

[delicate sparrow]

Im just not a big fan of timers,want to play in my own tempo

[random sand]

I feel that lowkey

[elder raven]

the air on khalim affects your thinking brother. there is no hard ripatorium preset. all of them are easy

[worldly musk]

think about it brother, while i was stuck wading through all the acid pools and magic circles, he chose ALL OF US to SUFFER

[elder raven]

ethan. has no favorites.

[graceful rivet]

Is dark ages too flashy for anyone here? I need to go back and check because my photosensitivity has been getting worse, and I want to make sure it's safe before the DLC drops.

[fading bone]

uhhh no?

[stuck basalt]

hd

[worldly musk]

I feel bad for those with photosensitivity and love gaming...gotta be tough

[graceful rivet]

Not a lot of games trigger it. Mine is weirdly specific. But I haven't had any issues with the eternal or 2016 yet, THANK GOD, but stuff like helldivers and Warframe usually get me

[fading bone]

if you didnt get it in eternal you shouldnt get it in dark ages

[worldly musk]

If Eternal didnt bother you, I feel like Dark Ages will be fine for you!

Lol Gemini great minds

[graceful rivet]

Okay that makes me happy

I haven't had any issues with dark ages so far but it seems to be getting worse for me for some reason so I gotta be safe

[vast silo]

I sympathize with you

[graceful rivet]

Real

[vast silo]

Yes

[solar cairn]

New week
New Stream
Pls

[vast silo]

[elfin fable]

[grim cloud]

well if there isn't one this week, they HAVE to have one next week for the 10 year and 1 year anniversary

[rapid lotus]

The dlc feel so close and so far at the same time

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/incredibles-bob-parr-the-incredibles-gif-7194125

[obsidian shard]

What DLC?

[vocal brook]

please, mr hugo... just one teaser...

[graceful rivet]

Theres a DLC?

[elder raven]

this is news to me

[graceful rivet]

me too

[random sand]

what's a "DLC"?

[graceful rivet]

A DLC is a.. it's a..uhmmm...

I don't know...

[random sand]

hmm. i shall figure it out

[graceful rivet]

when you do

share with the class

[random sand]

ofc

[rapid lotus]

Just a concept art for a poor soul

[graceful rivet]

they haven't come back yet

did the quest to find out what a DLC is claim another soul?

[solid nacelle]

Wow... it's been so long since I've heard of a... "dlc"...

[final dune]

https://tenor.com/view/groundhog-groundhog-eating-gif-27654631

[graceful rivet]

oh great and wise one.. do you know what a.. "dlc" is..?

[delicate sparrow]

Dried Lobster C*m DLC

[harsh egret]

dlc this, dlc that, can yall wait until the 1 year anniversary at least

[graceful rivet]

I don't even know what a dlc is bro

I just wanna know what the world "DLC" means

[delicate sparrow]

Maybe we can use tag1 from eternal as a reference time period?

[obsidian shard]

That was 6 months ago then

[weak gust]

It's apparently a way larger DLC, campaign size

Although, Ancient Gods 1 + 2 felt like an entire campaign to me cuz of the level length

[graceful rivet]

Thank you. I can rest now

[errant osprey]

DLCs are additional add-ons for games that are available for free or for a fee.
DLC can add new online content to the game or provide a new story for that game.
For example, the DLC for Doom Eternal continued the game's story content after the death of Khan Maker and the icon of Sin.

[graceful rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-avengers-dust-dissolve-gif-16965356

[graceful rivet]

Thank you

[errant osprey]

Guys, how many new demons do you think will be added to the DLC besides Archville?
Personally, I would like to see more cosmic demons and I would also like them to be unique and not see Armored Whiplash as a new demon.

[fleet spruce]

monkey paw curls and they add armored whiplash

[graceful rivet]

Marauder 2.0 gets added

[fleet spruce]

marauder should be instantly trivialized with a shield throw

[graceful rivet]

If he doesn't show up in DLC I'll be so upset

[obsidian shard]

your gonna be upset

[graceful rivet]

Damn

Oh well

[obsidian shard]

Marauder's dont come till the Civil war

[graceful rivet]

Are we gonna get like the Normal demon barons at least

[graceful rivet]

Yeah I forgot the dlc ain't the civil war

[obsidian shard]

No idea

[graceful rivet]

Praying my barons come back.

[fading osprey]

Maybe…some sorta thing like the hell troopers?

I’m just spitballing here

[graceful rivet]

Oo yeah that would be cool

[errant osprey]

Archevil is probably a demon that revives the dead, like the classic versions.

Adding another air demon like the pain elemental could also be interesting.

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/watching-closely-darren-criss-raymond-ainsley-hollywood-focus-gif-17693980

[elder raven]

archvile’s coming back if you didnt know

[fading osprey]

What about gladiator type dudes. Or do we already have the aggadons

[elder raven]

• same thing as the classic hell knights

• only one gladiator

• yeah

[fading osprey]

Ah

Then uh

[errant osprey]

Also, when is the change of Cyberdemon's wings going to happen?

[fading osprey]

Idk…hell wintherins? They’d be nice but…again, spitballing

[graceful rivet]

I kinda want more doom 3 demons like the Vagary

Cherubs return...

[obsidian shard]

Probs with the DLC

It appears Update 4 will be the DLC

(unless they decide to drop an update before)

[graceful rivet]

What's some other doom 3 demons that would be cool for dark ages

[errant osprey]

Is it possible that they will add something else to the game besides DLC and Repatorium 3.0?
Maybe Master Level or Master Campaign

[graceful rivet]

The maggot looks like it would fit in.

[errant osprey]

But I still want to see the idea I had in mind implemented, designing a heavy demon that can only be damaged by melee weapons and is immune to firearms.

[graceful rivet]

That sound cool

[unkempt dragon]

That's a question that nobody has the answer to

[graceful rivet]

Wish we had something like the bruiser again

[obsidian shard]

Maybe? but as LM said "nobody has the answer"

[fallen owl]

i just got back into the game and i've noticed that you can now quickswap between your melee weapons and that's really cool but why does it eat your melee charges

[errant osprey]

But if it happens, it could be a very nice surprise.
It would be great if we could see some mastered levels alongside Ripatorium 3.0.
Although it might be postponed until after the DLC release.

[errant osprey]

I think they intentionally put this restriction on switching between melee weapons so that the player doesn't have to constantly switch between these 3 weapons.

[obsidian shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/971218217852862544/1500983018909601913/Hugo_returns.PNG?ex=69fa6ade&is=69f9195e&hm=5d11da03e66b978c6ee3f216ecbf68630e8ad46fcea90585925cbec7f143d188&

[solar spoke]

I just finished my last assignment for the semester so I am ready for all TDA streams

[warm ibex]

hey good job man!

[harsh egret]

dont set any expectations, there will most likely not be

maybe next week

[obsidian shard]

All bets on June 7th

https://tenor.com/view/angry-birds-gif-12007401521632546156

[quaint acorn]

Just finished nightmare difficulty that has been on hold due to school, it made me remember the amount of fun I had during my first play through!

[warm ibex]

when they post a picture of the 2016 Praetor suit to celebrate the anniversary but it has TDA graphics instead of 2016

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-fnaf-fnaf-memes-surprised-victory-gif-17749407390453370285

[uneven dragon]

pleaseeee

[graceful rivet]

#INEEDIT

[stuck basalt]

where

what website

[obsidian shard]

Bethesda

[stuck basalt]

o

[obsidian shard]

The Streams take place on Youtube and Twitch

[stuck basalt]

i know i've been to all of em

W date to bcs im going somewhere and i can jus watch this on the road

[errant osprey]

Hugo will play the DLC.

[split gate]

They will reveal the DLC trailer, I swear on the Khan Makyr’s soul (she dead af)

[solar spoke]

Thanks, I'm so tired now but nothing is in the way of enjoying the DLC now if it's out for summer

[solar spoke]

that visor will look glorious with RT and more detailed textures

[cobalt fog]

Really hoping on dlc reveal

[warm ibex]

definitely don't let that hope turn into an expectation 🤔

[graceful rivet]

I will draw what EVER the first thing under this is if dlc info comes out that day

[obsidian shard]

Mancubus

[graceful rivet]

The contract is sealed! If we get dlc info next stream, the mancubus will be drawn

don't let me forget, Jay

also I'm assuming the dark ages one

[obsidian shard]

How did you know???

[graceful rivet]

Just a feeling

[solar cairn]

Maybe a new teaser concept

[violet zealot]

Who would win chuck Norris or doom slayer?

https://tenor.com/view/chuck-norris-walker-texas-ranger-bear-wrestle-wrassle-gif-16067394

Or

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doom-the-dark-ages-standing-still-fire-gif-803877051309245078

[magic mountain]

Well… chuck is dead so…

[violet zealot]

Before he died

[finite skiff]

doomguy would meet him halfway for a somewhat fair fight

[magic mountain]

If they both fought, the universe would collapse

[violet zealot]

Lol fr

[vocal brook]

hoping they bring back the 2016 pistol for the TDA dlc

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/watching-closely-darren-criss-raymond-ainsley-hollywood-focus-gif-17693980

[graceful rivet]

i would a simple pistol tbh

im a sucker for simple little weapons

in 2016, to practice aim and just to shoot random stuff, I would use the pistol since had no ammo

[green estuary]

In a game that makes a point to make even the basic shotgun feel powerful, I don’t really follow the logic of re-introducing the wimpiest weapon in the modern trilogy

[obsidian shard]

THATS THE SECRET WEAPON

[graceful rivet]

single pistol bullet to the bug bad's head and thats how the slayer wins the dlc

[violet zealot]

Orin the heart if they have one, you never know they might have 18 like octopi

Or in I ment

[last geyser]

So serrat has laser wings but his turrets still uses regular bullets

[hearty edge]

dodging is the juice

that makes the turrets shoot devastating plasma for some reason

[hearty edge]

if there IS a pistol i'd lowk do a challenge run just using it

i imagine they'd treat it somewhat like the impaler with headshots doing crazy damage

at least for a pistol

[fading bone]

question, for enemy projectile speed slider it says that not all projectiles are affected by it, so which ones actually are?

[random sand]

Probably ones like the Mancubuses fireballs

[fading bone]

from what ive seen so far in the first few levels it seems like every projectile is faster so i really wonder which ones arent

[random sand]

the vagary's wall projectiles maybe?

[worldly musk]

i believe acid projectiles remain the same speed

like vagary spit and mortar mancubus shots

[fading bone]

yeah normal vagary attacks also faster

acid attacks not being affected would make sense

are those the only ones?

[worldly musk]

i think so, thinking about gameplay and when i mess with the speeds, the only ones that dont seem to come at you faster is acid

fireballs, psyonic attacks from the the cosmic barons, whiplash crosses all make a beeline for you

also the fodder shoots faster

[random sand]

i think that's mostly because the projectile isn't nescessarily a projectile. just a visual to see where the acid will land

[fading bone]

oh god whiplash crosses my mortal enemy 💀

[worldly musk]

that would make sense, i wanted to say AoE attacks also dont speed up, if anything they just become more plentiful but idk whether or not to consider AoE attacks projectiles?

[fading bone]

loving how the game feels so far with max projectile speed tho. pinkies especially feel much more threatening

the armored manc walls also just ramp up to mach 5 out of no where its crazy

[worldly musk]

i love doin the little side to side dance to parry those

[delicate sparrow]

I need a Hugo react to dsp doom gameplay lmao

[worldly musk]

[orchid rover]

My eyes have been opened. https://youtu.be/8xTSoR-C7V0?si=KsLQ2B2ILcXy_FEW might be the best modern Doom soundtrack, genuinely not far off from TOTTFIY

[fading bone]

infernal chasm is a very good track

[solar spoke]

Favourite track is still Battle on the Blackened Tide for all the reason Hugo listed. Makes you feel unstoppable

[fading bone]

the main battle part of that song is indeed very epic

but into the void is the best overall imo

[fleet spruce]

https://youtu.be/dpvzSj5mxmk?si=88AALKrwWUqFAvGe

my favourite mix

[fading bone]

also the opening to unholy city

[orchid rover]

Man I really hope we see DLC news soon

We're pushing a year since launch and no official trailers just livestream tidbits

Obviously I want quality content and not to have it rushed/poorly scheduled like Doom Eternal

Maybe we'll get lucky with an "It's out now" drop instead of trailer + weeks more waiting

Which ngl I think I'd prefer personally

[fading bone]

we're definitely getting a trailer

the scope of this DLC is too big to not have some sort of announcement trailer first

especially with how little marketing it seemed like the original game got, i feel like theyd want to have an actual push for the marketing for this DLC to get people back into the game or picking it up

[worldly musk]

I still find Between Hex and Flame to be my favorite, at least to play on guitar, its so much fun

[hazy pasture]

A shadow drop wouldn't benefit the DLC at all at this point

[orchid rover]

We don't need to get excited for it

[orchid rover]

I can't say I agree with Dark Ages having bad marketing

I loved it. Every trailer had soy tears running down my whole body

Tbf I am a major Doom fan so I was sold right away, but still every thing we got was great

[elder raven]

just use any other word

[fading bone]

thats not what i mean. it seems like besides the few trailers there was no big marketing push

[orchid rover]

Eh, is there something you felt was missing? The January reveal was 10 minutes of good behind the scenes

Advertising is a little weird these days, since because we're not on cable TV, its entirely possible you're rarely advertised to unless you want it

Ex. I use YT premium and dont use twitter so I never get advertisements for the latest games unless it's a major event everyone is talking about

[harsh egret]

yeah great trailers doesnt translate to great marketing overall

[pliant cloak]

Don’t forget those engineers Bethesda sponsored to make stuff

https://youtu.be/p3tt0BRPmKk?si=Z3mAKnwgmMXH055O

https://youtu.be/PB7vTLV2aY8?si=AZ6zJYCDYFkqMRor

[worldly musk]

If i were a billionaire, I'd commission two versions of that man at arms shield, the original and the Divinity version

[wintry forge]

Divinity shieldsaw is so underrated

[pliant cloak]

What about nightmare

[obsidian shard]

This guy gets it

[wintry forge]

Divinity hate will not be tolerated

[pliant cloak]

I don’t hate it

Serrat looks pretty cool

[worldly musk]

top 3 skins are Default, Nightmare, Divinity in that order

for me personally

but for display purposes the Divinity shines bright like a diamond

[orchid rover]

Yeah that was insane

[orchid rover]

Divinity is my favorite skin for Serrat

Lowkey we lost her too soon

I think people would have enjoyed the mech/drag more if the combat was a bit deeper

Major major respect to Hugo for saying he'd love to be able for players to skip those sections on replays if possible

This is a guy that genuinely respects the shit out of all the people who play his games

[pliant cloak]

“Her”?

[elder raven]

WE AGREE!

[orchid rover]

Serrat? Female?

[pliant cloak]

The codex says he’s male

[random sand]

he's male

[orchid rover]

really??

My eyes have been opened

[grim cloud]

all caught up on streams. looks like they in the serious polish stage for DLC. June showcase can't come soon enough. about a month to go

[wide siren]

dlc is in Polish and confirmed serious

[elder raven]

what the hell are you talking about

[wide siren]

what no dlc does to a man

just responding to zemini

[elder raven]

polish dub of the game is the only way to play the game

spread the word ⚠️

[warm ibex]

one week until doom 2016 and TDA have their anniversaries on the same day...

[grim cloud]

I think we may get a short tease for the anni, but not a big trailer

[primal mauve]

Do you think DOOM The Dark Ages could come to Nintendo Switch 2?

[shadow escarp]

i mean, i dont think DOOM TDA would come to nintendo until the next generation

[primal mauve]

But on Nintendo Switch there are all saga, with Doom Eternal too

[shadow escarp]

fairs

i dont have a switch 2 i wouldnt know tbh

[primal mauve]

and I think the Switch 2 is powerful enough to run Doom The Dark Ages, maybe with some very small graphical compromises

[fleet spruce]

Literally a matter of time

it has firepower to run the game

[primal mauve]

probably, Doom Eternal too was released after long time on Nintendo Switch

[fleet spruce]

I'm running the game on a ROG Ally X btw

[errant osprey]

I feel the same way
We'll probably get a short teaser of the DLC next week, and maybe some concept art.
Also, a new artwork for the 10th anniversary of Doom 2016

[fleet spruce]

It took them like year iirc but man that port is really solid, former switch user here

[versed quarry]

Does anybody know how to get Dark Ages running on Linux Mint?

[final dune]

i dunno why lmao but i had a dream where they said the dlc is releasing in 10 years exactly for no reason whatsoever lmao

[shadow escarp]

desperation.

[unkempt dragon]

That's a lot of confidence in stuff you don't know will happen

[stuck basalt]

hugo is going to send bombs to our homes if we keep asking abt the dlc

[flat pulsar]

Experienced firsthand, homes gone

[errant osprey]

These are just speculations and not necessarily definitive news.
Also, they usually design artwork for their important anniversaries, so the 10th anniversary of Doom 2016 is probably no exception to this rule.

[unkempt dragon]

You sound like you're just telling people what will happen lol

[errant osprey]

No, these are just my opinions that I would like to express.
Otherwise, it is possible that none of them will be implemented.

[supple oracle]

what you saying doesn't sound only speculations

[errant osprey]

If you read my message again, you'll see that I say I feel the same way.
And it's just a feeling.

[warm ibex]

Just don't get your hopes mixed up with expectations man, that's the easiest way to disappoint yourself

[grim cloud]

Well I’m expecting doom 2016 dlc campaign for its 10th. So there!

[warm ibex]

lol

[errant osprey]

No, I always try to keep my expectations low.
If it doesn't happen, it doesn't matter.

In any case, I apologize to the community members if I caused any doubt.

[warm ibex]

don't worry about it man you're fine! it's just important not to overhype yourself. I remember a lot of us believing that there was a strong chance of the dlc being revealed during the game awards last december

and look where we are now lol

[primal mauve]

Please don't get your expectations too high or you risk being disappointed

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/serrat-serrat-doom-doom-the-dark-ages-doom-doom-dark-ages-gif-8832286089659534552

[elder raven]

wrong game..?

[warm ibex]

let. him. cook.

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/eric-tao-industry-funny-stan-twitter-gif-15538009996019484109

2016 dlc that explains the gap between 2016 and eternal

[grim cloud]

There are two anniversaries coming up. So yah what u said

I am most curious what kind of dlc demons we get. Arch vile is confirmed. Pain elemental hinted

[elder raven]

wdym the pain elemental was hinted

[errant osprey]

Of course I would prefer if the cosmic mancubus unit was added to the DLC.
I think it could be interesting

[idle swallow]

imagine the Hell Razer returning in the TDA dlc

I need my favourite 2016 demon back, he shouldn't stay exclusive to that game

[errant osprey]

Interesting

[last geyser]

Dragon enemies would be cool

[grim cloud]

Not sure if hell razers exist yet if it’s confirmed they were the possessed leftover race from the conquered drumavi. But some lore nerd would have to confirm that. Razers are created after the slayer takes his long nap

[versed quarry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/971218217852862544/1465946548222431314/This_post_was_fact_checked_by_real_Demonic_1.gif

[last geyser]

How many chapters do yall think the dlc will be

[obsidian shard]

8

[winged pond]

i guess 6-8 big levels

[obsidian shard]

TDA Already has more levels hen both Eternal and TAG

[versed quarry]

Probably six or seven. (I’m sorry)

[obsidian shard]

So presumably the DLC will have more then TAG

[onyx flax]

2 things

• I get memory allocation failures that crash the game sometimes, is there a vram leak or something?
• is quick swapping still a thing in this game?

[obsidian shard]

Quick Swapping is sort of in the game but invloves the Shield

Whats your specs and Graphic setitings at?

[onyx flax]

3070 32GiB ram

what do you like shoot a gun and cancel the swap animation with a shield charge?

so like pike, swap to shotgun, charge, shotgun goes pew

[obsidian shard]

Shield Bash then swap weapons

Its nothing like Eternal/2016 and Not really worth it

[obsidian shard]

You should be good on High settings

so are the memory allocation failures from the GPU or the game?

Having Discord overlay Open also TANKS the performance

[onyx flax]

I mean it's the game that crashes I'm assuming it's because it fails a malloc

I don't use discord overlay ever

[obsidian shard]

Do other games do it?

[onyx flax]

nope

might be something with wine since I'm on linux

but again, other games don't crash like that

[onyx flax]

so like BATS at home?

[idle swallow]

I just love how this game is sorta well-optimized. with fsr set to quality and all graphics settings set to max it runs at mostly 50-60 fps for me and never dropped below 40

[onyx flax]

with what hardware and resolution?

[idle swallow]

my PC specs are:
gpu: rx 6700 xt
cpu: r7 5700 x3d
32 gb ddr4 ram
4 tb samsung 990 pro ssd
1080p monitor

[onyx flax]

but ye id knows how to optimize their games for sure

just wish video game graphics were at a better place right now, runtime RT where everyone has to upscale a 540p image with vendor locked upsaclers or TAA and it all ends like a bit of a blurry mess with lots of flickering dots

[potent slate]

Just came to ask real quick. Who else thinks the Old Ones dodge windows are absolutely lobotomize inducing

[obsidian shard]

You can change em in the slider

[fading bone]

[elder raven]

big things happening in the dark ages chat

[stuck basalt]

fact

[thin hound]

Here’s to hoping we get the DLC trailer on the big 10 year anniversary (May 13th) and then it drops 2 days later exactly a year after The Dark Ages launched.

[fading bone]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-the-dark-ages-doomguy-doom-slayer-absolute-cinema-gif-11606677432043572262

[split gate]

My original prediction of TDA DLC being released before 1 year has passed is becoming less likely 😔

[obsidian shard]

You could say... its not Epic

[split gate]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-fall-skeleton-skeleton-shocked-shock-fall-over-gif-18289779073300331983

[random sand]

Watch them shadowdrop it on TDA's anniversary

[soft flare]

I think they'll show the DLC at the Xbox presentation.

[alpine pilot]

[onyx flax]

I'm encountering a bug where sometimes when I use the shield he just keeps holding it up until I find an enemy to shield slam, can't shoot or parry to cancel it as well

[fading bone]

yeah its annoying

happens occasionally but is pretty rare afaik

[hard thistle]

didnt try tda yet, but ill jump from 2016 to it, can someone tell me that tda has easier combo or no?

[random sand]

Define "combo"

[worldly musk]

I finally beat Get Stuck? You're F*cked! Unnerfed

[hard thistle]

sorry my bad i mean the combat system, what's the tea on the new combat system in DOOM TDA, besides the stuff we already saw in the trailer?

[fading bone]

its very fun

gun + parry + melee

[random sand]

Isn't much besides what's been seen in trailers. You run around shooting, punching and beating the shit outta any demon in your way. Hugo really said it best. "In doom 2016 we asked you to run and gun. In doom eternal it was jump and shoot. And in doom the dark ages, you're gonna stand and fight"

[fading bone]

tbf you need to run and gun in TDA as well

its just you have to parry and punch as well

[random sand]

True. But "stand and fight" sounds cooler

[worldly musk]

stand and fight sums it up well

[fading bone]

stand (momentarily) and fight

[random sand]

Nothing more fun than throwing hands with a cyberdemon. Not even joking either. It's very fun

Ran some ripatorium preset and that was probably the most fun i've had in TDA. Really tested my skill

[soft flare]

I fully support you, this is truly incredibly cool.

[hard thistle]

no glory kills like we did in 2016 and eternal?, no cracking demons neck?

[random sand]

There's glory kills. Just toned down since there's way more demons now

[hard thistle]

thats still ok to me, im about to buy it tomorrow

[random sand]

Awesoome. You won't regret it

[soft flare]

This is the first time I've heard such a cool explanation on this topic.

[random sand]

Lol. I mean it's true. I've tried doing only glory kills and it's a slog in this game

[worldly musk]

glory kills in TDA are like the icing on a very well baked cake

[random sand]

Yeah that about sums it up

[hard thistle]

i can hear rip and tear, but way more cooler with doomguy wearing cape

[worldly musk]

i wonder if they're gonna alter his suit for the DLC

[random sand]

I doubt it

Maybe they'll show the 2016 suit but das it

[worldly musk]

i mean, we know the 2016 suit is gonna make an appearance

[random sand]

I doubt he'll be wearing it. He'll just see it. Since it's rumored the Wretch will be revealed, maybe we'll see him making it and giving it to the Slayer

[fading bone]

i love the TDA suit so much

its just the best looking one by far

the praetor suit honestly looks so rigid and restrictive to me

[soft flare]

I agree. I don't understand all this criticism about the combat. Would it really have been better if id had done everything like before? I really like their approach of making a new combat system in every game.

[worldly musk]

i have to agree with this, in 2016 when the game came out I felt like he looked too chunky with that beefy armor, but now it makes sense why it was like that. the Slayer is a beast of a man

[hard thistle]

what if doomguy wearing pauldrons made from demons head?

[worldly musk]

the speed of Eternal wouldn't have worked for this game at all. i love iD for being brave enough to try new things, and even more so for doing it successfully

[random sand]

True

[random sand]

Nah. A little too on the nose

[random sand]

Looked that way in the cinematic trailer too. He moved like a regular guy there. Not some super soldier or demi-god

The 2016 one that is

[random sand]

Some people genuinely wanted doom eternal 2💔

[soft flare]

They can be understood, but it seems to me that it was a stagnation of ideas, and in fact, Dark Ages also copes well with the task of being an excellent doom.

[onyx flax]

I mean I also want that. I'm happy they're trying other things but eternal's combat could be pushed a bit further I think

But they said it's not gonna be eternal 2 so expecting that is just silly

I would like what we got better if it ran better on my old(ish) pc

I'm running it at 1080p instead of 1440p so i get my 60fps

[fading bone]

i dont really think you can get any better than what eternal is

that combat loop has been perfected

anything else would just have been "well this doesnt feel like eternal"

[random sand]

i think you can

[fading bone]

in what way

[random sand]

various ways. could take Eternal and expand on it (adding more movement options like wallrunning). could innovate on what 2016 or TDA has done. hell, i think the DLC is gonna perfect it by mixing TDA and Eternal together

[fading bone]

wall running is totally unnecessary with meathook already adding verticality

anything that would be added to eternal would just make it too cluttered or redundant. i really think they perfected that specific combat loop and anything else would be a disappointment

[random sand]

it wouldn't nescessarily be for adding verticality. it would be for flow of movement. look at Titanfall 2 for example

[fading bone]

i dont see what running on walls would add that meathook, double jump, and double dash doesnt already offer

[onyx flax]

Even without new mechanics more quality levels that push the challenge a bit further while adding enemies will be fun

[fading bone]

thats just another DLC or mod then

not a whole game

[onyx flax]

Ye sure

[random sand]

as i said, movement flow. look up vids about people doing movement in Titanfall 2. something like that but even crazier for Doom would be sick

[fading bone]

what does movement flow mean? you already have so many options for keeping your movement flowing in eternal. especially when you add ballista boosting on top of that

[onyx flax]

You can def improve movement

Monkey bars in particular I think feel kinda bad

[random sand]

chaining movement options together. never stopping. sure, it works fine without it. but it would work phenomenally with it as well

Titanfall 2, Ghostrunner, Sunset Overdrive. heaps of examples

[fading bone]

i just disagree. it would only be redundant in a game that already has a multitude of movement options

[onyx flax]

I think a more intended way to interact with momentum than bhopping would have been fun

And like QoL features

[random sand]

trust me. look up vids of Titanfall movement. you'll see the vision. it has a grapple as well. it doesn't neuter anything. it only enhances it. same as how more movement options would just enhance another fast paced doom

[fading bone]

i did and i know what it looks like

[onyx flax]

It doesn't have a grapple, it has THE grapple

[random sand]

then surely you see the vision

[fading bone]

i really dont think more = better in this scenario

[random sand]

true honestly

[fading bone]

no i dont see it. it would just be redundant

[random sand]

man

[onyx flax]

It would be fun I don't see how that's redundant

[random sand]

me neither. it would be awesome

[fading bone]

because theres already a ton of other mechanics already in the game that allows you to basically do the same thing

and it would not enhance the gameplay in any meaningful way that warrants an entire new game

[onyx flax]

I don't particularly want an entire new game I just think you can push what we have further I don't care if it's dlc or whatever

[random sand]

eternal's movement lacks the flow of other movement shooters. it's fast and chaotic but not really stylish and fun. it needs that extra leap to flow better

[onyx flax]

Momentum imo

[fading bone]

idk man have you even seen the best players in doom move? its extremely stylish and fluid

[onyx flax]

It is but it could always be better

[random sand]

that might be it. like it's amazing in titanfall and other games like ghostrunner but a little off in eternal

best you get with eternal is meathook cancelling

[onyx flax]

You have very little ways to affect your momentum, bhop feels unintended

And the levels aren't built with it in mind

[random sand]

most ways of doing it are unintended lol

[onyx flax]

I think the meathook is intended mostly

[random sand]

it is but there's tech with it that isn't

[onyx flax]

But like when you use the meathook you always get pull towards the target you can't use it to make a flash U-turn or something

Controlling the pull of the meathook could be fun

You're right it wouldn't be that different from eternal and I am happy they changed it up but eternal's still have more to give

Doom 2 is mostly the same as doom 1 but it's still a worthy sequel

[rare thicket]

hows the modding like in dark ages?

[wheat sigil]

you don't have to stop in eternal and the movement options do tie into eachother
easily the biggest constraint inside of eternal's movement is the player, if you want to do something or play in a certain way, you most likely can

[wheat sigil]

you can use it for that though

you can meathook an enemy, detach, circle them at very high speeds and even increase your speed when landing while performing some combo

[random sand]

i never said you couldn't. but there's something about other movement shooters that offer things eternal doesn't that i think would shine in eternal

[wheat sigil]

if you don't utilize all the movement options, sure

the "intended" movement in eternal isn't that interesting though

[random sand]

isn't that a big issue? the most interesting way to play the game is by breaking it with unintended stuff? i'm not saying Eternal's bad. i love the game. but it does lack the flow other movement shooters have

[wheat sigil]

it isn't an issue at all, devs have intentionally left these things in too

like yeah eternal would be way worse without its unintended features, but that isn't how the game is being played by anyone, so it doesn't really matter

[random sand]

personally i would say a game only being interesting through unintended features speaks about the game a little. it's a little like mario kart 64. the actual game is boring as hell but breaking it is insanely fun. Eternal isn't bad, but as i've said, it is a little lacking. it shouldn't be on the players to make the game interesting. there should be an interesting game to begin with. sure, the devs have noticed it and left it in for the fun of it, but that's just them being fun. not them making the game more enjoyable

[obsidian shard]

Eternal Hate 🥀

[wheat sigil]

won't say the game has a very high skill ceiling by itself or that it's even nearly as good without tech, however it's completely irrelevant when you're actually discussing the game and how you can play it

[random sand]

i don't hate the game. far from it. i love it. but compared to movement shooters like titanfall 2? its movement could be better

[wheat sigil]

if you actually use things like meathook slings, bhops, ballista boosts, your entire case falls apart, because it's just not true anymore

and that is how anyone with the skill to perform the things plays the game

[random sand]

is your whole arguement just "it is good if you get good"? honestly it'd be pretty funny if it was

[wheat sigil]

i don't think the movement is bad if you aren't "good" (which is a super vague term), however, the movement does require skill if you want to play it entirely freely

and that's the case for any game

[random sand]

i have over 100 hours on the game and i know most movement tech there is. i like to speedrun games. i know the combat a fair amount and i've also watched the pros do it in case my experience isn't enough. i know it decently well

i still prefer the flow of others that include wallrunning

[wheat sigil]

well the issue there is that eternal's skill ceiling is amazingly high, if a 1/10 player in terms of skill is completely new to the game, then you only need to be a 2,5/10 player to consistently beat the base game on UN without supers or shield

if you define 10/10 as peak skill

[random sand]

what do you mean with this scaling

[wheat sigil]

who are the pros?

[random sand]

i've watched? don't remember. just looked up some pro eternal gameplay to see how it was 😭

[fading bone]

also i just remembered theres literally wall jump boosting or whatever you call it. where you dash into a wall and gain speed from that

[wheat sigil]

but i wouldn't go watch others and determine how the movement is from that, because it allows for tons of different playstyles (including yours)

like i can guarantee you, you can play the game how you want to

[wheat sigil]

yeah wall dashing

[random sand]

then there's the first thing i said

my experience

[wheat sigil]

i don't mean to sound blunt, but if you can't play how you want to, it's just that you need to get better

[random sand]

where's that from? i can play how i want. i wouldn't say i'm bad at the game

[wheat sigil]

i don't think you are either, but the movement is very complex, there's no player which has mastered it yet

[random sand]

i don't think that matters to the topic. the point is, Eternal's movement is good, but i believe it'd be a whole lot better if it went the Titanfall route

[wheat sigil]

i'm not entirely sure what that'd be, since most of what i've heard is flow

which, there is in eternal
at least from the videos i found of titanfall movement, there isn't any "flow" or something you can't do in eternal

[random sand]

one key thing. wallrunning (sliding too but can live without that one)

[wheat sigil]

that's something i see mentioned a lot, but there's not really any way it both adds something and doesn't make air movement too powerful or breaks something

the issue is also with how movement, positioning, and geo works, which makes wall running kinda superfluous

[random sand]

sure there is. how would it be too powerful?

[random sand]

obviously, since Eternal wasn't designed around it. but it could be

[onyx flax]

but with the grapple you can do it with more style!

(also on another axis)

you cal already basically fly so it's just style points but style is nice

also I desperately want eternal to have a dedicated freeze grenade button (yes I know there's a mod for it but the shading and font in the UI are slightly off and it drives me crazy)

[wheat sigil]

hmm? the meathook works in 3 dimensions

[wheat sigil]

in its current state, the wall run wouldn't add anything, so sure you could redesign it to work around the wall run, but there's not much need to

[wheat sigil]

biggest issue with eternal's movement currently is probably that air movement can become a bit too good compared to ground movement, and wall running would just further that

[onyx flax]

Yes but WASD doesn't. You only have 1 rotation axis

[wheat sigil]

that depends on where your target was

[stuck basalt]

wasd

[onyx flax]

Once you detach WASD only affects two axes so you only get one type of rotation around a point (which is probably a caco)

Basically you can't do a loop

[blazing robin]

Who Are Played Doom The Dark Ages

[obsidian shard]

yes

[chilly needle]

We are who

[spiral crow]

Are we Who?

[chilly needle]

We Are, Who.

[spiral crow]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-yapping-i-stand-at-the-end-of-my-days-i-have-sinned-at-the-end-of-my-days-speed-talking-gif-17714085846938483931

Who we are who is the who within we who is are we

[versed quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-the-dark-ages-doom-true-launch-the-true-doom-launch-the-true-gif-17039720600748597696

[nova umbra]

ok guys, i have an issue

DOOM: The Dark Ages will not let me progress to Level 2 saying "Pending Content Install", ive tried uninstalling and reinstalling over night, does anyone know how to fix this issue?

[lament kayak]

You need to check the information

About the game

You in ps5 right?

[nova umbra]

wdym?

[nova umbra]

yes

sorry, my dad has my wifi off rn so im waiting on my slow mobile data

all cuz i cant get a job since no one will hire

[covert mountain]

I havent finished eternal but this mf a big boi

[versed quarry]

He’s not in Eternal

[solar spoke]

guys, I've Doomed

[swift onyx]

does anyone want a code for the prince st. pizza skin?

dm me, i still have an extra code

[solid nacelle]

Idk if this is still available but I dm'd you

[worldly musk]

I'm looking for a Legionary skin if anyone still has one of those

[rare thicket]

suprised there is no deathmatch

i also keep feeling like im playing quake, definitely is quake doom

[errant osprey]

I want a bright blue skin.
Also a red skin mixed with black.

[burnt heart]

If i beat ultra nightmare but its with modified settings will i still get the acheivment and skin

[harsh egret]

yes

[burnt heart]

I like to think im good at video games but im not good enough to do a ultra nightmare run lol

[elder raven]

you can cheat it. we wont tell anyone man

[frosty roost]

that's why there's sliders in the game lol

do whatever you like!

[hearty edge]

succumb to the temptation

do 500% damage to demons and 50% damage to slayer

no one will suspect a thing

except for the M*

but hey that appears even if you only change the parry window so

[ember anvil]

What's going on with the Super Shotgun's lever? Why is the trigger area exposed from the front/bottom?

[versed quarry]

Probably because it looks cool.

[elder raven]

the rule of cool is embedded in doom’s dna

[versed quarry]

Exactly

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doom-the-dark-ages-waste-land-cthulhu-gif-698035783215513909

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-the-dark-ages-doom-shotgun-pump-action-shotgun-john-doom-gif-3598943377017080987

cool as hell

[hearty edge]

this MIGHT be the coolest game oat

[hearty edge]

no hell is hot im pretty sure

[last geyser]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/832527939153297448/1400630660733079552/image.png?ex=69fd28f3&is=69fbd773&hm=f00a41130ac0e88a9d9e69e9bd154cdf40b383253e5e8a9f1125ec38b75b23d1&

[cyan quarry]

I got 2 gold guns!

[elder raven]

finally… the dlc

[wintry forge]

Just one more concept piece is all I’m asking for 🙏

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/looking-at-each-other-harper-stern-eric-tao-industry-making-eye-contact-gif-9197858496665541291

im definitely thinking we’re getting at least something this month

it might be small but still

[obsidian shard]

From now till June 7th GUARANTEED

-# Not Actually guaranteed

[weak gust]

Woah wtf?

This better be Hell 🙏 I love how Hell is depicted in Norse mythology being all cold like this

[obsidian shard]

Yup! Hugo confirmed thats from one of the layers of Hell!

[graceful rivet]

I love when hell has cold areas

[weak gust]

Les fucking go :D

It really reminds me of the trial dimension area from 2016

That’s fucking sick

[graceful rivet]

shit wait ya right

[weak gust]

I can already imagine any potential Demon living there

Ice giants? (Jotun)

[obsidian shard]

Hugo was saying the DLC has the best maps and envionments id has ever made!

[weak gust]

Holy shit, imagine if we got a Wendigo (modern depiction)

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/eric-tao-industry-funny-stan-twitter-gif-15538009996019484109

you know, ive talked about this many times: a doom surtr

[weak gust]

YES

That would be hype

There are so many awesome Norse beasts they could tackle

Surtr is up there for sure, that’s like prime boss territory

[elder raven]

they have potential with the dreki and the komodo

[weak gust]

Ooo

[stuck basalt]

wasnt this the first major teaser

[elder raven]

they could also very much put cyclopes in doom and have them be related to the cacodemon. gorgons as well, with the whiplashes and stuff. (greek myth but still)

hugo please let us explore a frozen hell environment with a skeletal baron of hell and a jötunn in the back. (ymir and auðumbla)

[weak gust]

I just realized

A Norse Hell would be a great opportunity to show the great serpent

Or at least remains

[elder raven]

world serpent? interesting. also could tie it into the biblical leviathan

[weak gust]

The Great Serpent from the Hell Knight codex

We got a painting maybe depicting it in TDA

Or was that another game? I forgot

[graceful rivet]

we did???

[elder raven]

and besides, if doom concludes its time with the abrahamic heaven and hell, they could go to other mythologies. granted, i’d like to have it still be present, to have the demons from that era still appear + other biblical stuff we have in doom as of now, but after urdak and hell, and maybe the cosmic realm, we could very much move onto other mythologies

[graceful rivet]

where

[obsidian shard]

Siege, In one of ruins

With the cultists

[elder raven]

i mean there’s already a way to include greek mythology into doom, and its been possible for years because there’s a level in doom called ‘mt. erebus.’ could mean nothing, could mean something, but just wanted to say that

[graceful rivet]

OO! I'm gonna hunt that down later.

[weak gust]

It's purplish in color I believe, the painting

[elder raven]

they also could include the concept of chaos in other mythologies. exploration into chinese mythology is also possible because of some actual real life history involving the abrahmic religions and chinese myth

[weak gust]

I think it's either eluding to a serpent or just the Cosmic Realm

[elder raven]

• two thoughts

1. þrúðgelmir representing the archdemons/order of the six

2. doom version of ravana from hinduism

[last geyser]

Archvile with ice powers

[obsidian shard]

He freezes us

[graceful rivet]

getting ice bombed by an ice arch-vile would be horrid

[obsidian shard]

Ice walls instead of Fire walls and we have to Shield bash thru em

[graceful rivet]

taking me back to beyond light from d2 😭

[graceful rivet]

that is a cool idea

[obsidian shard]

It would be so awesome

[graceful rivet]

and like an attack where he could freeze us in place

it would be horrid but also very cool

but how would be get out of it

maybe like a 3 second melt?

[obsidian shard]

It would be like a slow down effect like Eternal

[graceful rivet]

ooo

good idea

[hearty edge]

on a sidenote

i want the actual dlc arch vile to not be melee based

3/4 super heavies already are melee based

he gotta have the range

bonus points if he is also crazy fast

[fading bone]

i feel like he will definitely be ranged

[graceful rivet]

its the arch-vile, its best ranged

[hearty edge]

and i would say i'd also like it if he didn't have much parryable attacks and instead u relied on heavy damage to falter him like in the classic games but the cyberdemon doesn't even shoot rockets here so everything is on the table ig

[obsidian shard]

Tbf Komodo is best for range, same with Vagary,

Baron is close range but it's attacks leave little room for melee (getting cocky will kill you)

[hearty edge]

talking about the cyberdemon, something i noticed recently while replaying ressurection is that leader cyberdemons shoot their skull thingies in volleys of three just like the classic cyberdemon

[hearty edge]

oh i mostly meant the attacks

like the only one that has parryable projectiles is the vagary

to falter the other ones u gotta get up close and personal

[obsidian shard]

Baron has the Psionic attack

[hearty edge]

ok i guess the baron has one too

[obsidian shard]

2 actually

[hearty edge]

potato potayto

[weak gust]

Kinda fun tbh

I was gonna say "Iceborne Baron", but that's kinda overdone

[stuck basalt]

if we do get huge ass dlc news or a trailer I will literally piss myself (literally)

[hearty edge]

yk i kinda feel sad that they didn't really do anything special with the fireborne baron

like outside of the design he plays basically the same as 2016's baron

except i feel like less projectiles for some reason

something like the dreadknight's aoe would've been fine

[weak gust]

I can feel the difference enough I'd say, but maybe a firebreath or smth would've been nice

What really strikes me is the difference in HP

[hearty edge]

yea that's true

not being one shotted by the bfg is a plus

[pastel pebble]

Sadly we'll probably just get something like Hugo telling us that it's still being polished. I can definitely see it coming out soon (Within the next few months) but it's better to keep hopes a little low for now. The most we can probably hope for is the Xbox event but if we happen to see something sooner then that'll be awesome sauce

[stuck basalt]

peanuts

[scenic lichen]

I honestly think that the Xbox event is just an absolute minimum for when we can expect trailer 1, the maximum I’d say is quakecon

[split gate]

This DLC better peak, got me waiting over a year man 😭

[random sand]

From the sounds of it, it will be peak. But who knows. I'm just waiting for that damn teaser trailer to drop

[split gate]

It better make all our jaws drop when it does man

[random sand]

I have faith it will

[weak gust]

I haven't played TDA yet but, I hope the DLC ditches Argent D'Nur to an extent. The base game has such a focus on that world, and we barely see Hell

The Cosmic Realm would also be neat to see, and maybe even Urdak in some cutscene

[random sand]

The story is about Argent D'Nur. That's where the Slayer is in this story. Granted, we'll probably see alot more hell here with even snow there since that's where Doom Slayer's mission is. But they won't ditch Argent D'Nur

[weak gust]

To an extent is the key word here

[graceful rivet]

watch it be shadow dropped with NO announcement

[weak gust]

I wouldn't mind more Argent D'Nur, but I hope there's less chains of levels staying there

[random sand]

What's wrong with Argent D'Nur anyway? The game has a medieval aesthetic and Argent D'Nur has that

[weak gust]

Tone I'd say

That's why TAG was so great, we got a huge variety in atmosphere

[random sand]

Doubt it but it dropping mere moments after a trailer wouldn't shock me

[weak gust]

You can only do so much with one world, especially when that world is predominantly leaning towards one color palette and vibe

[random sand]

Because it didn't stick to a certain theme or aesthetic. TDA does. It's set in a medieval setting

[graceful rivet]

i meant the tralier

[random sand]

Now that wouldn't shock me either

[weak gust]

The medieval thing still applies to Hell

It's just giving more variety

[graceful rivet]

i think it would be funny

[random sand]

The DLC will most likely have a mix of both. I've heard maybe some of the cosmic realm as well

[weak gust]

I hope so, the Cosmic Realm is beautiful

[random sand]

True

[random sand]

They like to get whacky with it too which there's potential for. It depends how long the DLC is. TAG is only like 3 levels per part

[weak gust]

3 very long levels though, I wonder if the TDA DLC will pull something similar or go ham with 12+ levels

[random sand]

All of Eternal's levels are long except the first one

[weak gust]

Oh there are definitely some shorter ones, Nekravol - Part II, Final Sin (before the boss), Sentinel Prime

[random sand]

Nekroval part 1 and 2 are shorter than others but i wouldn't call them short. Final Sin and Sentinel Prime are boss focused levels so they don't really count

[weak gust]

I guess so

[hasty hazel]

[weak gust]

[worldly musk]

[weak gust]

[soft flare]

[elder raven]

[shadow escarp]

[visual tusk]

Does anyone know how to get the golden skin for the dark ages???

[split gate]

Complete Ultra Nightmare bro

[visual tusk]

Kk

[spiral crow]

[rapid lotus]

I don't have internet until monday, PLEASE HUGO DO NOT GO CRAZY TONIGHT !!!!!

[elder raven]

hugo revealed me in a dream that the dlc is coming out one day

[spiral crow]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-speed-fortnite-early-stream-reunion-gif-143982391907906686

[delicate sparrow]

When is the stream?

[split gate]

And that day is today, rahh

[brittle finch]

Istg 1440P XeSS Performance with PT gets the same FPS as 4K Native RT 😭

[obsidian shard]

6pm EST
3pm PST

[spiral crow]

Is the stream actually happening this week?

Or just when streams usually start if it does happen?

[obsidian shard]

Bethesda website says yes

[spiral crow]

Oh i see, thanks Sneaky

[unkempt dragon]

Official announcement will be made soon

[worldly musk]

https://tenor.com/view/ali-nosey-va-gif-22974629

[harsh egret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1490925064470921288/1501996654163660940/image.png?ex=69fe1ae4&is=69fcc964&hm=9fbae92d1a8e61658ecd8466ae46d9ad98c51a440427c13c3e01427743f2cce1&

something is happening guys...

[obsidian shard]

Must be the Master Campaign

[harsh egret]

[winged pond]

Yay stream confirmed on twitter

[sleek quail]

Time to watch Hugo nerdrage again

Next week we have DOOM 10th anniversary and Dark Ages first anniversary

[sleek quail]

A decade of destruction

[fading bone]

and the DLC ANNOUNCEMENT!!!!

[harsh egret]

[fading bone]

[elder raven]

the dlc will come out

eventually

[sleek quail]

DLC annoucement if nothing this day or next week its probably in the Xbox presentation or Quakecon

I would be happy with at least new concep art

[obsidian shard]

There will most likely not be one today

[harsh egret]

i'll bet u anything its not gonna be today

[fading bone]

ill bet you EVERYTHING that it is TODAY

[rare thicket]

After playing a lot of dark ages, imo this is my fav doom.
It reminds me a lot of Doom 2 levels with hundreds of monsters and youre running all over the big maps.

It also really reminds me of Quake, did we goto the Quake dimension through the Green Portals and the sky was all Purple???

The robot says Unknown Location

Chapter 17 i think

[fading bone]

its called the cosmic realm

it says it in the loading screen and you get a codex for it at some point

[rare thicket]

I see, I thought they were trying to connect the doom and quake universes, it really feels that way anyways.
This style proves Quake needs a new game (a gothic horror one, not military)

It would be a sick way to bridge into a new series for it.

[fading bone]

other people have made the quake connection before as well with the cosmic realm but afaik id hasn't mentioned anything about that

[rare thicket]

I play a lot of Quake, and yeah i keep thinking i am playing a quake game and not doom lol

[fading bone]

its just a new realm of the lore that is being introduced and explored

which we'll likely be learning more about in the DLC since hugo teased about it returning

[rare thicket]

Doom Guy meets up with Ranger

Nice I just got the game glad there will be new content soon!

[hazy pasture]

Very soon...

[fading bone]

soonTM

[rare thicket]

yay

[worldly musk]

In there like shareware

[rare thicket]

The engine of this game is so beautiful too, they put a lot of love into it you can tell.