the-dark-ages

[tranquil pond]

Thank you! I'll try Xess, but don't know how it would be, since while I have this option, my Intel CPU doesn't have integrated graphics card.
I'll try to relocate it later probably. Thankfully, it loads quite fast, same as Doom 2016 and Eternal after I got SSD and even without installing them on it. The only game I remember required to be installed on SSD was Total War: Warhammer. It loaded for 5 minutes or something without that. 💀

[foggy fable]

TAA is specifically for anti aliasing for the edges

While dlss and fsr are for overall image quality

[severe kestrel]

HOLA ESTO ES PARA YOUTUBE

EH

IF YALL WANT I TALK ENGLISH, I DONT WORRY ON THAT

[foggy fable]

Thank you but also no need to yell with the caps

[severe kestrel]

caps what is that

[foggy fable]

THIS

All big letters

[severe kestrel]

Sorry i forgot to turn off bloq mayus

[foggy fable]

That’s ok

[severe kestrel]

hey do yall play ultrakill

[foggy fable]

That would be for #general

[severe kestrel]

oh thx

hey i just played doom on my computation class on university

[hearty edge]

even though xess is intel's technology it still works on other gpu's so don't worry about the integrated graphics

it's software based unlike nvidia's dlss

[hard thistle]

if projectile speed is left untouched, and game speed is at 150%, will the projectiles move faster than if the gamt speed was just at 100%?

[green estuary]

yeah
But you also move faster

Everything moves faster when the game is at 150% speed, hence why it’s called game speed
Cuz everything in the game goes at that speed

[crude kraken]

yo would anyone whos experimented more than me say slow or fast projectiles are harder? idk which projectiles are unaffected

in my head im thinking slow would be harder because thered be so many projectiles on the field to account for but you gotta react instantly for parries on max speed projectiles

[green estuary]

virtually all projectiles are affected by the projectile speed slider

slow is pretty easy, since even though there are a lot of projectiles on the field you have all the time in the world to dodge them
and 4 out of 5 projectile speed is kinda pushing it, but max projectile speed is literally 200% projectile speed and is quite unfair

[hard thistle]

yeah i think 3 projectile speed is the perfect sweetspot. anything faster, and it just feels annoying . anything slower, and it just feels pretty easy

[mystic barn]

300% damage to Slayer + fastest projectiles = nuts in a vice grip

It’s a great challenge though

[cyan quarry]

I got the dark ages.🙂

[warm ibex]

happy to hear that the entirety of Switzerland now has dark ages

[lunar parrot]

Hello guys!! I need some help, can my computer run the dark ages?

It has 16gb ram, AMD ryzen 7 6800h with radeon graphics and has an RTX 3050 paptop gpu

[slender otter]

yeah that should be good 🙂

[lunar parrot]

Alrightyy thanks! Can i play on medium graphics or only low?

I have an Xbox S i could play on but i prefer keyboard

[slender otter]

i recon you should be good on mid but if its choppy or laggy just run on low

[lunar parrot]

Got it, how many gb is it?

[slender otter]

a lil under 100 g

if i remember correctly

[lunar parrot]

Youch...

[slender otter]

trust its worth it

[lunar parrot]

Well is the game really fun and addicting, and is it better than eternal?

[slender otter]

in my opinion yes

[lunar parrot]

Gotcha

Well I'll see when i can get it!

[slender otter]

ye

[lunar parrot]

I've never seen da trailer btw cuz i like to be completely spoil free, are there more weapons?

[green estuary]

instead of weapon mods like eternal, tda has weapon classes
so separate weapons that use the same ammo type but act differently

there are 6 standard weapon classes, 5 of which have two weapons each and the sixth one which just has one weapon

[lunar parrot]

Ohh ok

[cyan quarry]

Yes sir

[obsidian shard]

Depends how you like the game lol (Its my favorite of the 3 modern ones but it's all preference)

Turn Slow mo off
Have Music be 20-30% louder then Sound Effects

[frail bloom]

Not to be that guy but I think I found that glitch the day the update released

Not many ppl use it tho you can easily sacrifice your movement on console

[hard thistle]

Yeah, seems like a glitch that's fun the first time. but doesn't sound fun enough to actively incorporate into regular gameplay

it would be so awkward

[frail bloom]

I only use it if there's a tad too many superheavies in a ripatorium round

[hard thistle]

you gotta think of switching right after parrying

[spiral crow]

Same here, dark ages is my fav but i do think eternal is the peak of FPS games, Dark Ages is the most Doom a Doom game has been

[crude kraken]

Thank you for the input🙏

[hard thistle]

the one glitch which is super fun that i actively use though, is the one where you shield bash, then get quickswap for that period

[frail bloom]

I feel like 2016 takes that personally

For feeling like old school Doom

[crude kraken]

I like 2016 it feels like the most grounded

[frail bloom]

Have you heard abt Hugo saying that there's gonna be a quickswap mechanic?

[crude kraken]

and consistent

ironically i have the most time in eternal though

[hard thistle]

Yeah, in the upcoming dlc. i'm hyped for that. just don't know what he means by "you're gonna have to earn it" lol

[crude kraken]

tied to tech with a new weapon maybe?

[hard thistle]

maybe, after defeating one super difficult secret boss, you unlock quickswap

[hard thistle]

or maybe this

[spiral crow]

I feel like in terms of difficulty 2016 is honestly the most inconsistent game

Projectiles were just downright unfair at times and plus the game was starting to get repetitive by the 3rd act of the game

[frail bloom]

Me neither but he also clarified it's not like what we've had before, but him mentioning it is huge

[crude kraken]

interesting, i had a hard time with 2016 but encounters took less time as i went through and got better but for eternal and dark ages thered randomly be arenas id be stuck on for hours after breezing through most of the level

[hazy pasture]

The quickswap mechanic is gonna be pretty different according to him

"It's not gonna be what you're anticipating"

[hazy pasture]

It could revolve around the shield and spear... But that's just speculation at the best

[frail bloom]

Or the spear might replace the shield, as some are speculating

[crude kraken]

thats what i assumed

shield for defensive style play and spear for offense

[spiral crow]

That's interesting as for me i did struggled at the start but after learning and using the mechanics how i'm taught, i get into that flow where i'm destroying everything, 2016 gave me that feeling on hurt me plenty and ultra-violence, but nightmare was straight up unfair at times

[frail bloom]

Ohhhhh

Hmmmmm

[hard thistle]

ahh I see. so it might not be quickswapping with the guns, but quickswapping with shield vs spear. We need a trailer or something, these vague hints are killing me 😩

[hazy pasture]

They're adding additional elements to the already existing gameplay loop so I don't really think they'll outright replace it with the spear right away

[frail bloom]

This game might be transcended with this one

[crude kraken]

would be cool to have a full time melee weapon with the shield instead of the single presses for one hit

[frail bloom]

Or they'll add a switching option

Guys it's almost the end of March, time is flying

[hazy pasture]

Based on how the melee hotswap works, I think the shield and spear hotswap might work just fine with a lil cooldown

[crude kraken]

i played all 3 on nightmare first time, i played 2016 6 years ago at this point so i do believe im looking through rose tinted glasses

story's my favorite for sure

[frail bloom]

Ofc it's a theory it might work totally different too

[hazy pasture]

Let's hope for an April drop

[hazy pasture]

We'll definitely see what's up with that soon

[frail bloom]

Ye it's prob not March

[hazy pasture]

Yeah March's almost over

[frail bloom]

Interesting marketing strat

[hazy pasture]

And since they're in the polishing stage, the trailer might not be too far away

[hazy pasture]

Truly

[frail bloom]

Ngl I just wanna hear the new music

[crude kraken]

me tooooo

[frail bloom]

It's been so long

[crude kraken]

if they dont bring back levy or hulshut i will be devastated

[frail bloom]

What are they cooking I gotta hear it

[frail bloom]

Ohhhhh well signs are pointing towards Fm

[crude kraken]

did you see levy's track he mad mor dark ages on his own time?

[frail bloom]

I did

[green estuary]

why would they bring back levy and hulshult? FM did the main campaign music, why would they fire them for no reason

[frail bloom]

Solid 8/10 song

[crude kraken]

they might not have been commissioned for dlc from the start

i liked levy's track more than the whole main game ost

[frail bloom]

Nm

Hm*

Don't agree with that

[crude kraken]

theres some bangers in there but imo it isnt as creative as what the other modern composers have put out

whats your favorite tracks from dark ages?

[frail bloom]

I'd say finding all those medieval instruments and even some of the more unknown ones is pretty creative

[real crater]

my #1 will always be when the shadows first lengthened

[frail bloom]

Like a Tagelharpa?

Never heard of that

Using grass blades for demon screams?

[crude kraken]

me neither 💀

[frail bloom]

Unconventional but it works

Here's what @obsidian shard sent me the other day.

Apprehension engine
Balalaika
Blades of grass
Bowed acoustic guitar
Cello
Choir (Finishing Move themselves)
Double bass
Elk-skin drums
Mandolin
Metal Sculpture (From The Callisto Protocol)
Nordic bass tagelharpa
Hardware synths
Modular synth
(This does not Include Samples, Such as Church bells or
Organs)

This was not the other day this was months ago lmao

[hazy pasture]

Almost every single one of em based on either combat or ambience

[crude kraken]

i didnt know much about the production of the ost those are creative decisions you got me

[frail bloom]

But I would like to hear a bit more variation yes

But y'know a whole ost with leitmotifs that are constant and telling a story is more intriguing to me then just simply making a bunch of bangers. 2016, Eternal's and Tag almost had none

[crude kraken]

i guess its just my subjective opinion dont get me wrong finishing move did amazing work i love the soundtrack but for me mick and david and andrew love doom and really get it and i hear it in the soundtracks

[frail bloom]

And that is fair

[crude kraken]

yeah i agree with that one, it feels more cinematic

the motifs

and thats whatb they were shooting for im excited to see how they develop that feel for the dlc

[frail bloom]

And don't get me wrong, Eternal's my fav in the music department, but Tda brings smt the others don't

[crude kraken]

and it would feel disconnected from the main soundtrack if they brought back old composers, it took a while for me to acvcept levy and hulshut because the dlc soundtrack had a different feels than micks tracks

[frail bloom]

And now that they're most likely composing for dlc, they've found their sound, they've looked at what the fans have said in regards to constructive criticism(which is few and far in between), and they know what to do, so I'm hyped to say the least

[frail bloom]

Ye took me a couple weeks to get used but overall I loved their contributions

[crude kraken]

maybe levy can be there just a little just for me 🥺

[hard thistle]

definitely not march lol.

[frail bloom]

We just gotta keep trekking

[hard thistle]

i think june should be the latest

[frail bloom]

I meant the trailer release

Not the actual expansion

[real crater]

what yall shouldve done is played it nonstop in the first month of release like me and then get burnt out so that you dont play the game for like 9 months and then you come back just in time for dlc rollout

[hard thistle]

anything after that, and we start entering territory of people not caring, cuz there are a lot of hype games coming out this summer

[frail bloom]

Depends on what they want

[frail bloom]

I burnt out 2 months ago, now I just play Lbp

[crude kraken]

i did that with silksong

[frail bloom]

Been passing the time like a knife through butter

[hard thistle]

i burnt myself out last year too, then went back to doom eternal lol

[crude kraken]

ive been shooting for ultra nightmare on tda but ive been itching for eternal

and dark ages dlc

[frail bloom]

I'd say the 192 hours I have is pretty good

[real crater]

192

[hard thistle]

damn. i haven't burnt out TDA that bad yet. i only have 95 hours

[frail bloom]

I'll add an extra 200 when dlc drops, and the ripatorium mode bc I wanna experiment with the new stuff they'll add

[real crater]

damn i need to catch up imonly at 60

[frail bloom]

I'd say play to your heart's content

Don't overdo it

[hard thistle]

doom eternal is my most played game of all time, but i still never really get burn out from it

[real crater]

i would say the same thing but once dark ages came out i pretty much stopped playing eternal entirely and my skills havent been what they were since

[crude kraken]

i did for a bit, right before tda came out, i plateaued in that game ive got 1000 hours and havent beat anything on ultra nightmare :/

[crude kraken]

yeah its so different from eternal you gotta reteach yourself how to play eternal going back to it

[real crater]

i usually require a full run through of the campaign before im decent again

[hard thistle]

Yeah, one thing i will say is Eternal has much more button inputs per second to play at peak level. so it is more tiring. You can do a lot of cool stuff in dark ages with less button inputs, so i kind of appreciate that more

[crude kraken]

depends if you get burnt from boredom or the stress i love the spectacle and simplicity of dark ages but melting a tyrant with 20 well times button presses in quick succession tickles my brain, tda's simplicity is its greatest strength and weekness for me

i love the accessibility i can hop back in and play well after not touching it for months

big plus when youve got a busy life

[hard thistle]

Yeah. i also love the back and forth with parrying in TDA, when facing a tyrant. it's pretty fun, and feels more like a brawler game. in eternal, i'd just insta eliminate a tyrant with pb launcher lock on quick swap, pb+ssg, etc. And there's no back and forth lol. but they're both super satisfying

[hard thistle]

this too. Another reason i appreciate TDA

[obsidian shard]

Thank Alex for that

[crude kraken]

its amazing how customizable the experience is right out the gate, wish eternal was on that level

[obsidian shard]

The OST is made to be different

I HIGHLY suggest reading the DOOM wiki page on it

[crude kraken]

i'll make a point of it for sure

[hard thistle]

yeah, to be able to get nightmare level enemy aggressiveness, but hurt me plenty damage to player is such an underrated feature. especially for insane ripatorioum presets. you can really have fun with those. and 150x speed

[crude kraken]

i hope that's another thing that'll be improved on when the dlc comes out, i can never have enough personalization

more so in the graphics department though, i dont like forced dlss or fsr or aa

i like the crunchier look without it

[hard thistle]

Yeah, one thing i wish they had is be able to keep parry indicators turned on when hud is off. cuz i like the screen with hud off, but at the same time, the parry indicator really helps to see attacks coming from behind, and you can parry without even turning back

Doom eternal had more customization with which UI elements you could keep on vs off

[crude kraken]

truuuue i miss that from eternal, i want the dot crosshair but you lose the melee charge indicator in the middle of your screen

[obsidian shard]

Also, there are "behind the music" videos for TDA

[crude kraken]

i liked that you could have all your important information in the center of the screen where your vision is focused, i want to be able to see shield info there too

[obsidian shard]

There is a reason why there's a lack of synth melodies

Doesn't fit the "Medieval" tone

[crude kraken]

i'll do some more research i pretty much based what i was saying entirely on my subjective opinion

[real crater]

im trying a nightmare playthrough rn

humbling experience

[obsidian shard]

David's track he made is great but doesn't fit the style of the game

It would be great for a Kreed Maykr boss track

[crude kraken]

i thought it fit pretty good with the power fantasy and being an "unchained predator," but i agree with the points on the cinematic feel they were going for with the ost and the medieval vibes, im for whatever serves the vision of the game

[obsidian shard]

But the Synth Lead isn't the best for the setting

[obsidian shard]

Oh ya for sure

[crude kraken]

i dont think synths are entirely out of place though with some of the sci fi elements still present, maybe reserved for a little bit of ear candy

[obsidian shard]

But seemed like a TAG track imo

[crude kraken]

definitely

[hazy pasture]

Thronebreaker fits the playstyle and tone set by DOOM Eternal more than TDA

A good track, but not too fitting for TDA

[crude kraken]

yeah in starting to see that now

[frail bloom]

It could work in siege pt 2

Maybe?

[crude kraken]

exactly what i was thinking thats when i listen to it

[obsidian shard]

Atlan Battleground and WTSFL and cosmic Realm have great Synth work in them, but Atlan Battleground and the cosmic tracks have those "Sci Fi vibes"

[graceful tulip]

Sometimes I feel like you need to snort 10 lines of cocaine to properly get through the encounters

[hazy pasture]

It could also work in Hebeth or Sentinel Command Station at most

[frail bloom]

Oh yeah I'm on life support

[hazy pasture]

Agreed

[frail bloom]

One more overdose and it's over

So hard

[crude kraken]

the cosmic realm tracks are my favorites

[graceful tulip]

Nothing like getting screwed by ever enemy shooting at you while trying to fight an aggadon and tyrant at the same time, can’t forget my favorite enemy the epilepsy chaingunner

[frail bloom]

Positioning

Much more important now

Ig you're in resurrection

I can tell

[real crater]

in this game?

[crude kraken]

i also feel like the drony synths are a good representation for the overwhelming and relentless nature of the demonic horde, levy hulshut and mick made me feel like i should definitely be scared of the demons and the slayer i never got that vibe from any of the tda tracks, if i look at some of the behind the scenes i can understand the vision better and appreciate it for what it is

i did get the vibe i should fear the enemies from the cosmic tracks

and the boss tracks

[frail bloom]

Well yeah not every song should evoke the same feeling

[crude kraken]

exactly, fm went for cinematic and medieval and the previous composers focused on the power of the slayer and demons

[obsidian shard]

Daek ages is meant to make us feel unstoppable, so pure raw Guitar and Knarly riffs really add to that

[twilit stone]

THANK YOUUU

[frail bloom]

Yup

Feel the weight behind each step

Marching forward

[obsidian shard]

Exactly

[crude kraken]

yeah i love the marchy feel of some of the tracks like im dragging my feet through mud and demon guts

[obsidian shard]

Also the guns and melee synching to Music help

[harsh egret]

when the music kicks in after u get the shredder on khalim

[frail bloom]

Ohhh ma gawd

[harsh egret]

goes perfectly with the weapon shooting

[crude kraken]

huh i never noticed that

[harsh egret]

ye its done on purpose for sure

[frail bloom]

that one segment that plays in the flat arena with the exploding barrels and enemies bursting through walls

[crude kraken]

i normally play on 130% game speed though

[harsh egret]

its perfection

i play on 110

[frail bloom]

[harsh egret]

still tho that part of unchained predator that plays when u get the shredder is just perfect for that moment

iirc it is always the same

[frail bloom]

It's the "rip and tear" of this game

Fast, energetic and simple shredding

[frail bloom]

Y'know from 2016

[harsh egret]

yeah

[solar cairn]

I'm only 150 percent, I've never experienced such a drive in any game yet

[crude kraken]

i cant handle 150% respect to anyone that can

[fleet spruce]

Rip & Tear encapsulated the 2016 to me , and Dark Ages tracks that make me feel like that are Infernal Chasm and Into the Void (<- i listen to it almost daily holy shit)

[heady trout]

I used to play exclusively on 150% but it got too buggy and unplayable at times, so i chose to go back to 130%

[crude kraken]

on the subject of soundtracks why dont any of the eternal tracks have official mixes?

[fleet spruce]

it's complicated, tldr: Marty

[heady trout]

yes

[crude kraken]

i know about the mick drama onviously but is that really the only reason? we dont even have dlc mixes

[twilit stone]

Rip and Tear is the best track in the series

Shit is so unhinged

[fleet spruce]

My 2 cents are on Into the Void right now, may change with DLC and next game

[twilit stone]

Top 4 for me are Rip and Tear, Hell on Earth, Immora and Into the Void

[fleet spruce]

honestly no idea why DLC tracks didn't get official mixes , tho there are lots of awesome mixes out there

[crude kraken]

i really like skullhacker name and all it feels like the slayer fell of the edge into insanity a long time ago and is fucking crackhead and his drug is pulverizing demons

[fleet spruce]

https://youtu.be/F_1l6oDwilg?si=lh_pXOE-G981lfuu

one of my favourites

[twilit stone]

Its funny cuz 2016's songs are actually faster than Eternal's despite 2016 being a slower game

Which isnt a bad thing it makes sense. If i was playing Infinite Slaughter Mode with Skullhacker playing id have a seizure

[crude kraken]

the slayer is pissed off he woke up into a repeat of what started his whole crusade and in eternal he is divine retribution

lots of pent up rage from getting slept by the demons centuries ago too

[twilit stone]

2016 feels the angriest 4sure

[crude kraken]

i get the vibe thats why its the fastest

[twilit stone]

Maybe thats also cuz the game is just red alot as well lol

[crude kraken]

i love that about it

2016 has my favorite gore in the trilogy it really sells how sadistic the demons are and how horrible whats happening in the story really is

[twilit stone]

It certainly has a horror vibe the others dont, lots of little spooky environmental noises and imagery, as aposed to how in ur face Eternal and TDA (which is fine, that approach only really works once)

[split gate]

It has the angriest ost out of all three modern Dooms. I wished it kept that vibe for the other osts

[crude kraken]

i think it fits the best for 2016, that has to bethe angriest the slayers been in the trilogy

[twilit stone]

After waking up in a UAC facility after eons of entrapment and all your viking buddies dying, i imagine itll do that to a mf

[crude kraken]

i feel like they couldve gotten away with it in tda, i was really hoping for it, medieval times was like the pinnacle of human torture but the violence and gore feels pretty cartoony in that game

youre knocking chunks of the demons but it doesnt feel bloody if that makes sense

[twilit stone]

Yeah TDA didnt really live up to my expectations in the slightest in terms of the its portrayal of the Sentinel war against Hell unfortunately

[crude kraken]

and the corpses feel like props

[tranquil pond]

Small questions: is there any way to get rid from health orbs text that says "you're low on health - find health"?

[twilit stone]

Its cuz theres waaaaay too many of them, so you just get desensitized to it very quickly

[crude kraken]

i feel like it seems like im just talking shit on tda but i really do love the game

[twilit stone]

I like it too, mainly disappointed in the story department, evrtything else is fine

[crude kraken]

theyre torn up but theres not really guts or blood just a ripped up fleshy mass maybe ive seen too much shit i shouldnt have on the internet but it just doesnt sell me

[heady trout]

The Slayer is totally nuts, but never hurts those who don't deserve it

[crude kraken]

definitely

[twilit stone]

It doesnt help that they're more obviosuly copypasted and unlike a game like Half-Life 2 where the living NPCs feel like actual people, TDA's NPCs are so static and pointless

[heady trout]

i appreciate there's npc's worried, unlike Eternal where the only humans seem to be bordering on comic relief and show no concern for what's basically humanities end

the tone is more appropriate

[crude kraken]

the copy and paste never bothered me, feels like how its supposed to be, like everyone is divided into classes and they are dressed accordingly, like the argentans are hierarchal and very organized, i think it serves the mixed medieval and sci fi art style very well

[twilit stone]

I guess but i was fine with there not being human NPCs around in Eternal cuz not only would it make no sense but also it adds to Eternal's lonely atmosphere

[crude kraken]

I just wish i was sold that real people are dying, in 2016 theres just PILES of guts and bones soaked in dark red blood like i walk into some of the spaces and it grosses me out

[twilit stone]

Which is does have. Eternal has atmosphere, just not a "scary" one

[crude kraken]

in eternal everyones already incorporated into a gore nest or their body was burned in the hell fire so i think it fits there

everyone is dead and their body is gone or they are hiding

[twilit stone]

Yep, it'd make no sense for there to be living people around unless the game was set at the start of the demonic invasion

[crude kraken]

it wouldnt make sense if there aree demons on every square inch of the planet but theres just people out in the open where you, a single guy not looking for them can find them

[twilit stone]

And by the time Eternal starts the invasions been in effect for like 13 years or smth i think so.. yeah. Everyone either gone or dead

[crude kraken]

except for arc complex and mars base employees

[heady trout]

Eternals atmosphere is only good visually, the story stabs it in the heart as it feels like it isn't taking the crisis at hand seriously

[crude kraken]

the crisis is already over, theres only like 2 bastions of humanity in the solar system

the only concern is being the crisis for the new demonic order

[heady trout]

regardless Eternal should have taken itself more seriously

[twilit stone]

Eternal's got tonal whiplash narratively i wont deny that, its easily the game's biggest issue, but atmospherically i dont think its a big issue

[heady trout]

visually and musically (atmospherically) it sets an awesome tone, but the characters start speaking and acting it falls apart

only the betrayer and novik cutscene seemed to match the good atmosphere

and the games intro

[crude kraken]

yk what yeah, the most frequent speakers are vega samuel and the intern, intern is so unserious and samuel does not live up to his 2016 rendition

vega's chill though

[cyan quarry]

Hey guys not to get into a argument or anything but...Discord gave me a thing to tell ya'll.

[twilit stone]

And the scene where the Father's life sphere is broken, and the walk to the World Spear, and all the cutscenes with Davoth in the boss fight

[heady trout]

World Spear cutscenes are fire

won't deny

[crude kraken]

i dug the khan makyr, shes powerful but obviously desperate

[twilit stone]

She's the best pure villain in the modern games

[crude kraken]

i think the carelessness of the characters fit because everyone is already dead the focus is killing the top plpayers in hell's ranks

thats all thats left tbh

[heady trout]

Khan Makyr is cool when u consider what they tell of her, but in practice she gets thwarted by the Slayer at every turn

I like her in concept, not in execution

[crude kraken]

cuz hes just better dawg

[cyan quarry]

I do think that DOOM: Eternal is better than Dark Ages.

[twilit stone]

Beautiful take bruthu

[cyan quarry]

Wait really?

[heady trout]

I don't even hate the Khan Makyr as a villan, it's just I wish she acted smarter sometimes

[crude kraken]

im waiting for dlc to say for sure but its looking like it rn

[heady trout]

I prefer Eternal over TDA but i still love TDA

[crude kraken]

i see it as her being lazy because she already thinks shes won

[heady trout]

like, tempting the Slayer of all people in Sentinel Prime? Really?

[cyan quarry]

Yeah that's how I feel.

[twilit stone]

I do wish she acted against the Slayer a bit more in the story, but literally evruthing else about her is great so i dont mind

[crude kraken]

from a strategic standpoint though its not stupid to try everything including manipulation

[twilit stone]

I mean Samuel literally points out she has hubris

[heady trout]

I think Ahzrak fixes this problem I had with the Khan Makyr which was more acting against the Slayer, at the price of the corrax/background complexity of the Khan

[cyan quarry]

It's like how I feel with Mortal Kombat 11 and Mortal Kombat 1.

[heady trout]

You'd think by now she would know that wouldn't work

[crude kraken]

yeah i dont understand why people seem to hate ahzrak

[cyan quarry]

Same he's cool

[twilit stone]

Ahzrak is just so dead motivation wise and has edgy teen vibes. I just never took him seriouslh

[cyan quarry]

Exactly

[heady trout]

i value Ahzraks acting against the Slayer more than the Makyrs cool lore

[crude kraken]

his design makes his face very punchable

[heady trout]

I don't necessarily take Ahzrak super seriously, I find him funny at times, how he goes "WITCH DO SOMETHING"

[crude kraken]

they play the game differently is all, i think it fits for their races, khan being a makyr she stays above it all and behind the scenes unless neccessary and ahzrak being a demon he is more involved in the fighting

[brazen relic]

Fire

[heady trout]

but the sheer fact he acts more than the Makyr just puts him above her, not to mention his strategic approach of "I'm NOT stupid enough to face this guy in my base form"

[twilit stone]

He's kinda funny I'll give him that. I think its mainly his design, it looks so odd to me

[crude kraken]

hes a demon, he wants power, he is sadistic, no need to complicate things

[cyan quarry]

Ahzrak seems like the definition of an emo teenager.

[crude kraken]

what gives you that vibe?

[cyan quarry]

Just the way he talks

[heady trout]

He doesn't have this bordering on ludicrous pride the Khan has that leads her to underestimate someone she's had eons to understand. In far less time Ahzrak realizes the best approach is to keep distance and focus on the weaker ones

[twilit stone]

I guess but after all these genuinely compelling villains in the last games its just kinda underwhelming to me

[heady trout]

ahzrak is the only compelling modern doom villan to me outside of maybe the Khan Makyr

[crude kraken]

they made me wanna beat the shit out of him thats all i need personally

[twilit stone]

I wish Kreed or the Witch were the main antagonists honestly

[cyan quarry]

Like I'm not finished with the game yet because I just got it a couple days ago but you just give me that vibe, you know. I just predict that.

[crude kraken]

samuel is my favorite

i really like him trying to force the slayer to do what he wants anmd the slayer refuses every time

[cyan quarry]

Hot take I like Davoth

But I can see how he was underwhelming

[twilit stone]

Davoth rules, only problem is his rushed screentime

[crude kraken]

he has 3 levels to do anything unfortunately not enough time to really sell his power

[heady trout]

My main problem with Davoth is the stupid visual connection with the Slayer and all that stupid primeval shit

[crude kraken]

you gotta read codexes to understand how powerful he is i dont really dig that

[heady trout]

yeahhhh

[twilit stone]

Jsut ignore all that, you're allowed to

[crude kraken]

yeah that shit's lame 💀

[heady trout]

that's a problem with modern doom, relying too much on codexes

[twilit stone]

Primeval stuff is the worst thing to be addrd to the lore

Ignore it

[crude kraken]

agreed, on the ignoring part too, he is still powerful hes the dark lord and then in the footnotes is "he looks like the slayer"

[twilit stone]

Cuz nothing changes if you u do or dont acknowledge it

[cyan quarry]

You should have been made like the devil in mythology

[heady trout]

sooo it's just coincidence that he looks like the Slayer?

[twilit stone]

I just headcanon is as a doppleganger thing, nothing more

[crude kraken]

yeah in my headcanon

[crude kraken]

ayyyyy

[heady trout]

I'm going to headcanon that he took the look of the Slayer bc hell only fears him

[crude kraken]

ive seen that before i like it

[twilit stone]

Or a thematical thing. It really does not matter in the slightest that he looks like the Slayer

Lorewise at least

[crude kraken]

if i close my eyes when hes on screen i can imagine he looks like goat satan

i like his suit design and that it parallels the slayers praetor

[cyan quarry]

Same

[crude kraken]

if only he just actually had that silhouett

[cyan quarry]

Like the baphomet

[crude kraken]

with the horns and squinted eyes and maybe some badass demonic wings

[cyan quarry]

Yup

[elder raven]

this isnt the right channel but #the-codex

i wanted to add that whenever davoth summons the tyrant, baron, pain elemental, and mancubus, remember that screaming sound effect at the very end? thats actually a goat noise. i have the link, ill pull it up

[crude kraken]

ahzrak looks more demonic than the dark lord what are we doing guys

[crude kraken]

fair enough we've been talking about eternal and lore in the dark ages channel

[alpine pilot]

Where doom

[sleek topaz]

Did anyone BUY the Doom Slayer skins in Diablo IV?? I am interested to buy them, but only really liked the Barbarian skin and the Cacodemon pet, from the previews.

[humble furnace]

If the DLC doesn't get a trailer by tomorrow I'm eating my own skin.

[fleet spruce]

season it first

then put in the oven

or better yet deep fry it

[obsidian shard]

save some for me

[spiral crow]

Ay yooo

[obsidian shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1182151938314358856/1399628765826519092/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp.gif

[spiral crow]

I mean we all want the DLC, but we have to wait which sucks but the wait will be worth it

I mean since Eternal came out in 2020, we were atleast able to wait for 5 whole years for a new installment

[spiral crow]

Bro we get it, you love the Mancubi

[obsidian shard]

Do I?

[spiral crow]

Your Pfp says so...or unless you're a carcass fan

It's nice to have pizza from time to time especially when it's your birthday lol Hugo add pizza to the dlc

[obsidian shard]

Happy Birthday broksi

[hard thistle]

i don't get exactly how these ripatorium presets work. "countdown to death by hordemode gaming", i was playing it, and it defaults to 1 round, but when i increase the rounds to 4, there's 4 unique encounters set in there. But not 5. anyone know how this works?

[spiral crow]

Bro thanks, i had so many notifications on this discord wishing me a happy birthday

[obsidian shard]

Yes, Horde's pre-set is 1 round

It automatically set it

[hard thistle]

but when you increase to 4, those rounds get populated. how come?

[hard thistle]

whose presets are those for the 2nd,3r d, and 4th round?

[obsidian shard]

No idea, But thats not intended, could just be a fill, but the First round is the only round part of the encounter

hence why it starts at 1

[hard thistle]

weird

random presets from nowhere

i mean, i would love a random preset setting though

[obsidian shard]

The First round is the only round from Horde's Pre-set

[obsidian shard]

You can make one

[hard thistle]

nah, i don't want to make presets cuz i don't know how to do any sort of balancing. i'd rather just pick whichever someone has already made

[obsidian shard]

The Pre-sets get rotated every few weeks or so, so you could just wait ig

but thats part of the fun of the Ripatorium is MAKING your own custom encounters

[hard thistle]

Yeah, wonder if ripatorium 3.0 will have any sort of random functionality

[obsidian shard]

that would be peak

[heady trout]

Vega sucks

[hard thistle]

i feel like it's fun if you like making it. but the decisions on which demons to pick are too overwhelming for me lol

I like all of the horde mode presets though

[obsidian shard]

IM GOING TO KILL YOU

[hard thistle]

i hope they don't get swapped in next update

[heady trout]

VEGA bugging as usual

[obsidian shard]

fair fair

[heady trout]

don't post any links Sneaky you'll get a 1 hour timeout

[warm ibex]

it's a lot easier than you'd think honestly. there's well over a hundred encounters in the campaign, just start with something that already exists and go from there

[obsidian shard]

Horde's are bloody awesome, Mine are cool too

[hard thistle]

they really should allow us save presets somewhere. i'm on ps5, so trying out some of these presets in here, and manually entering the long ass codes, and them getting wiped away afterwards is quite painful 😩

[obsidian shard]

That been confirmed for Ripatorium 3.0

same with more maps
AND Easier way to share encounters

[hard thistle]

really? do you have link or screenshot to what exactly they said?

[obsidian shard]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FdbLLjyz4xoto6AyutcgkoxggIWnbhW2Jnrf0f76OqE/edit?tab=t.0

After every stream I put Info in here

Also Horde and Hato make Vids/posts

I Also do reddit posts

[hard thistle]

More maps, saving personal encounters, easier way to share encounters... PEAKKK

[obsidian shard]

I would provide sources, but the sources are the stream and they are like 2 hours long, and all the time stamps would be a pain

Easier to just write what they say

[hard thistle]

Makes sense. Can't wait for official trailer

[obsidian shard]

One day 🥀

[hard thistle]

2026 🤞

[obsidian shard]

It has been confirmed for 2026

and that the team is polishing the DLC and other stuff

so a few months to go

[hard thistle]

hopefolly not later than summer

[spiral crow]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-eternal-gif-23805674

[real crater]

🔥

[hard thistle]

is there any way to sort the ripatorium posts channel by upvotes?

[obsidian shard]

no but the top 9 are:

Mancubus Mayhem - Me
Ahzrak's Abyss - Me
Arachnophobia - Horde
Scourge of Belias - Samir
Waltz of the Archdemons
Path of Vengeance - Horde
Hell's Trials - Hato
DOOM Timeline - Trash master
The Demonic Double Act - Hato & Me

[sleek topaz]

rip, YOUR SKIN.

[neon perch]

How do I convince Bethesda this game would kick ass in VR.

Imagine blocking with your shield on the left hand and flicking the SSG with your right after every shot.

[hard thistle]

too much motion sickness at 150x speed

[neon perch]

Then lower it... ?

100 is vanilla.

[sleek topaz]

You don't. There is DOOM VR only.

[hard thistle]

true true

[neon perch]

This game already gives you shittons of accessibility options, it's slower than Eternal and 2016, and the gameplay loop is simple enough that you wouldn't need to make a lot of changes to it in order to make it work, just block and shoot. Maybe make shield dashing instant to reduce motion sickness, like VFR's teleporting.

There's no reason TDA wouldn't work in VR and it would be a HUGE wasted opportunity if they didn't lean into it.

[obsidian shard]

Bruh its not slower

objectivly 2016 is the "Slowest" of the 3

[neon perch]

I mean.

Unless you're on a Ripatorium arena at 150% speed with dozens of Arachnotrons.

It's really not that much faster than 2016 during normal play.

[obsidian shard]

Combat does not equal speed

[neon perch]

But yeah 2016 is slower.

But TDA's isn't that much faster.

The maps are just way bigger and you run faster.

[obsidian shard]

Subjectively Dark Ages is the fastest in terms of movement speed

HOWEVER Eternal has more Vertical speed and more intense, High demanding combat then Dark Ages and 2016

Dark ages ALSO has some pretty intense combat in final act of the game

Probably some of the hardest of the 3

(Reckoning and Resurrection)

[neon perch]

Give me TDA on VR or give me death.

RAAAARGHH.

[obsidian shard]

You could probs find someone to make a mod

[neon perch]

You will make a mod.

I command you.

[obsidian shard]

its just not financially worth it at ALL to do a VR Port (Considering VFR didn't do so hot either)

[obsidian shard]

I Dont know how to mod

[merry sapphire]

thats if you dont use yeethook

probably the most unintended fun part of the game

[obsidian shard]

TRUE, if you dont yeatook then its Slower* Then Dark Ages

*Not actually slow-just different forms of movement

[merry sapphire]

dark ages looks slower to someone watching but the game feels "faster" due to the decision making and how reactive the combat is

man when is the dlc dropping vro 💔

miss this game

[spiral crow]

[obsidian shard]

Just play the game

[obsidian shard]

within the next 7 months

[spiral crow]

In 5 years actually so when the next doom game comes out

[obsidian shard]

DLC bruh

🥀

[merry sapphire]

i played like 141 hours of it, like 6 playthroughs and did all the challanges including ultra nightmare

theres not enough incentive to play anymore. ripatorium is fun but its just 3 small maps

[spiral crow]

Yes in 5 years the DLC will come out bundled with a new doom game, plus 1 more dlc called Doom the Sneaky ages

[obsidian shard]

[spiral crow]

Okay but fr though, Doom The Dark Ages really gives me a different feeling compared to how i felt towards Eternal when it was released

[obsidian shard]

Both are my #1 games for a reason

Dark Ages makes me love Eternal's Mobility and "Yeathooking"

Eternal makes me love Dark Ages POWER and Fluidity of combat

(Aka removing Glory Kills)

Both games Music are peak (Tho I Prefer Dark Ages)

[spiral crow]

Like i love eternal alot, it changed my life, but i used to remember how i wished we got a doom game where we're in a war, and i guess i felt more hyped for dark ages than i did for eternal

Because it was a doom game set in the middle of a war and a prequel like the prequel trilogy of star wars

But bro.... i just feel like with this DLC for Dark Ages it'll feel complete for me as MY perfect doom game

[desert sapphire]

Anyone on PlayStation who can't watch my game play and we share play dark ages I have the game.

[harsh egret]

[spiral crow]

Been a minute since i've seen you Hato

How are things?

[harsh egret]

yoyo im doin' good, gonna start working on some tda related projects soon...

im here pretty often i've just been lurking

[spiral crow]

Ah alright, sounds good, glad to hear you're doing alright buddy

[real crater]

yeethooking is a top 1 mechanic of any doom game

i will hear no opposition

[obsidian shard]

I-I agree

[severe kestrel]

hello there its been a long time

[thin zinc]

i got a 5080 and replaying dark ages with path tracing after playing it on xbox series x originally.... it's insane how good this looks.

[obsidian shard]

@neon perch theirs a VR Mod

[neon perch]

WHERE.

Wait.

[obsidian shard]

DOOM 2016+ Modding server

[neon perch]

Hold on there's a YT video.

Eh it's just a VR overlay over the original game it doesn't actually have motion controls.

[humble furnace]

I swear there is a 3D video/gif of the DOOM Slayer doing this.

It won't let me post the gif.

Point is its a gif of sonic.exe looking all freaky with his hands.

I can't find the DOOM Slayer GIF.

[spiral crest]

How often should I be using life sigils?

[fading bone]

as much as you want

theres a good amount of checkpoints in this game so its not like theyre worth saving for things unless you know youre going into a tough gore nest encounter or something

theres also quite a lot of sigils throughout the levels so youll always be able to replenish

[solar spoke]

Komodo with a potato gun

the Spudmodo

[slate lichen]

is there a place that has all the doom slayer skins to view? everywhere i go just has steps to obtain them or it shows the first three. i juset want to look at the models in detail

[slate lichen]

cant tell if this is a shitpost. Like do you mean look at the in game assets via a model viewer of some type or are you using snark to say "beat the game and you will see more skins"

[harsh egret]

theres yt vids

[slate lichen]

i foudn one and it only showed the first 3, i was let down. ill look some more

[harsh egret]

or iirc kaibz mod can unlock all the skins and u can check them out in game yourself

if u are on pc

[heady trout]

holy shit playing with 50% damage dealt to demons is rough

im fighting the double barons in reckoning and its lowk hard

nah i gotta go 75% how in the world are these mfs so strong

yeah 75% is actually tolerable 50% is for sadists

[green estuary]

the true 2010s fps experience
where increasing difficulty makes every enemy into a massive damage sponge

[tranquil pond]

50% is fine, but 75% is better balanced. Default 100% feels like enemies are made from paper. I would probably go with 1.65, like I did in 2016, but there is no such option for it, unfortunately.

[tranquil pond]

I mean, both 2016 and Eternal just mostly increase damage, which is even worse, since constanly forces player to quickly delete enemies and avoid damage, which could become tiresome. Sure, bullet sponges feel boring too, but it's question of how much damage they require.
Also as said above enemies in 2016/Eternal/DA feel like they made from paper vs weapon damage balance on 100%.
I think using both stat changes for difficulties is most optimal approach instead of putting everything into one basket.

[wheat sigil]

higher damage equally forces you to move and restack better, it's a pretty balanced way to increase difficulty without really having to change anything

however, i still very much like the damage slider in tda, but forcing health changes when you change difficulty could be pretty jarring because you'd have to relearn when enemies stagger

[delicate grotto]

I appreciate the “Token system” enemy AI uses to attack the player. Actually makes the enemies feel smarter on higher difficulties. Wish there was a way to modify that, but I’m sure it’s integral to the game’s systems. Not something a couple number changes can fix.

Plus the game would probably feel like shit if you tweaked it beyond what it’s set as lol.

It’d be interesting to see regardless

[wheat sigil]

there are mods which increases rhe amount of tokens, but it doesn't really do anything

[delicate grotto]

Really? Maybe there’s a threshold or something that regulates it then. Dunno

[wheat sigil]

nightmare tokens are already enough for enemies to do basically whatever

wonder if there's the same token system in tda

[delicate grotto]

I wonder that too. It’s only been confirmed for Eternal, no clue how the AI system actually works for this game but I assume it’s very similar.

[wheat sigil]

probably yeah

[tranquil pond]

higher damage equally forces you to move and restack better,
Agree. As said "to avoid damage", which makes it tiresome vs many or enemies with fast attacks. Within DE/D:DA it works better, because there is damage mitingation on low health, which gives more dynamic/dangerous feeling and keeps it more on the edge. In 2016 it would just kill player from few hits with its 300% damage, lol.
it's a pretty balanced way to increase difficulty without really having to change anything
Regarding balanced - depends from difficulty settings. +1000% damage won't be very balanced, lol and even 300% feels like a lot already. Something around 100-250% feels optimal in my opinion, but again it depends from averaged enemy count, enemy attack speed and enemy default damage. Good example of how it can go wrong are imps in 2016, where damage is fine and barely noticable on Easy/Normal/UV, but hits hard on 3.0 for Nightmare.
But yeah, it's most easy to do and test thing in terms of balance.
however, i still very much like the damage slider in tda
Absolutely agree - such an amazing addition, which grants very nice flexibility for everyone to set a lot of things the way they like.
but forcing health changes when you change difficulty could be pretty jarring because you'd have to relearn when enemies stagger
Which is a pros not a cons, because it grants different experience and better depth for a game. Forcing only damage is just lazy balance, in my opinion.
Also if players can adjust to incomming damage, players can adjust to enemy damage mitingation too.

[graceful rivet]

I died to like the fast closing teeth tunnel in the belly of the beast and my game no longer works

It activated the life sigil and my game didn't freeze because the sigil graphics were still moving but NONE of my buttons were working

It did it again

[chilly needle]

I'm on my pandemonium run right now, and i'm currently on belly of the beast, it's a crazy level i love it.

[elder raven]

magical stomach acid:

[chilly needle]

The stomach acid is the hardest part.

[slow roost]

when i try to stream the game to discord my game is stuck on the menu screen for me but the game is still running behind it

[sleek topaz]

"Cinematic" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxsSPwmA0RA

[obsidian shard]

Discord Overlay TANKS the game performance

[hearty edge]

i skip the secret encounter on subsequent playtroughs since you don't really need the gold and it just gives u a plush

[pine mauve]

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=uu-PiFTTbD0&list=RDAMVMuu-PiFTTbD0

[half plaza]

"cinematic"

using custom weapon skin

[sleek topaz]

DLC skin.

[half plaza]

Yes i know

[wide aspen]

playing dark ages on mobile

[fleet spruce]

that could be possible once valve figures out the SteamOS for ARM CPUs so we will get a steam deck lite sometime soon

[hearty edge]

geforce now

[wide aspen]

It is possible without GeForce now or without a pc

[hearty edge]

i mean the a19 pro and snapdragon 8 elites can ray trace but it'd prolly run at like 10fps

and with how expensive flagship phones are you're better off just buying a budget pc

[quick pawn]

i am doom the dark ages

2 minutes ago

[split gate]

Bro lives in 2050 😭🙏

[wide aspen]

It runs at 30fps for me

[last geyser]

I want a level that takes place inside a planet sized cacodemon hybrid in the dlc

[warm ibex]

a level that takes place inside a planet sized cacodemon is genuinely sick as fuck

good idea sir slimey

[whole plover]

We need to play doom the dark ages in doom the dark ages

[spiral crow]

That sounds sick

[alpine pilot]

[fringe comet]

any new reveals about the dlc?

[elder raven]

the dlc has been cancelled

[obsidian shard]

2 weeks ago

[fringe comet]

is that the thing where he said about "the dlc will have the sauce" or after that

[obsidian shard]

Yes

[split gate]

Don’t worry guys, I will revive the DLC

[merry sapphire]

would be sick but hope its just not supergorenest or inside cuthulututluhu again

[spiral crow]

2 years ago actually

Atleast that's how it feels like

[solar spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/megamind-gif-27125224

me at Id HQ entrance asking about the dlc

[harsh egret]

they confirmed the xbox showcase on 7th of june, which is just over a month away

i say there's a 50% chance we get an announcement there and a 50% chance we get one before it

[green estuary]

Just over a month away?

[harsh egret]

im stupid

nvm that

[green estuary]

[real crater]

as someone who dont work at id i can confirm

[harsh egret]

well forget i said any of that lol

probably 80% chance we get smth before it then

[elder raven]

i think it’ll be before tbh but we’ll see

[harsh egret]

same lol just forget i said any of that

suddenly forgot May existed

[frosty pine]

All in on the dlc being revealed on the 7th of june

I'll watch the whole thing for it

Might stay for the E day direct tho I'm interested in that since we've gotten nothing on it since it's reveal

[hard thistle]

i feel like june 7th is too late for a trailer/release info. we'll probably get it earlier, but maybe actual release will be june/july

[spiral crow]

Bro i just encountered the weirdest bug in the entire game

I was fighting the Arachnotron right, and i killed it when it killed me, i choose not to use a extra life, but for some reason because he was the last demon, it caused the game to think i cleared it without dying and i was still alive with no HUD on my screen at all

[fading bone]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/832527939153297448/1488217550281117756/image.png?ex=69cbfa19&is=69caa899&hm=99923e387118f25c7d9fb641d6d47a1b79a3847463a3f64d780edc72ebc274e1&

I HAVE FINALLY DONE IT

[stone pasture]

You know using modifiers still allow you to get the skin

[fading bone]

yes but i didnt want to do that

i didnt care about the skin i cared about the achievement

this was lowest parry window + 120% speed

100% completion

[stone pasture]

Nice

[spiral crow]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-the-dark-ages-doomguy-doom-slayer-absolute-cinema-gif-11606677432043572262

[grim cloud]

i still cant' beat the game on pandemonium. mostly because i am ot a fan of the mode. preferred extra life much more

[fading bone]

pandemonium is also a bitch. getting stuck on nerathul over and over was the bane of my existence when i was still doing it

it makes for very good practice though. the repetition i got from doing that ended up being very helpful in the long run. so you should still stick with it if you want to

[tranquil pond]

Didn't check, but wonder do Pandemonium and UN allow to switch to lower values for game difficulty?

[fading bone]

you can change the modifiers yes

[tranquil pond]

Thank you! That sounds really cool! Maybe would play on easiest values then someday. Didn't finish UN for Eternal still even once - only 2016 1-2 times.

[chilly needle]

Mine got ended by enhanced azhrak yesterday. Restarted and on siege part 2 now. It was a bummer. Back to the grind

[fading bone]

yup that was me too the try before this. choked at asscrack phase 3. youll get it

[whole cedar]

Alguien español?

Ñ

[warm ibex]

Creo que en este servidor solo se permite el inglés. Es difícil moderar el chat en otro idioma

[spiral crow]

Didn't know Horde can speak different languages

https://tenor.com/view/doom-the-dark-ages-doomguy-doom-slayer-absolute-cinema-gif-11606677432043572262

[warm ibex]

My spanish is minimal, google translate does the heavy lifting lol

[spiral crow]

Lol that's funny

[hard thistle]

There was some video that someone did some digging in the TDA code assets or something and found the second weapon class for chainshot,which was like a fast firing smg type of weapon, but the design was incomplete. Do y'all think any chance of them bringing that to dlc?

[green estuary]

doubt it

[hard thistle]

why

[green estuary]

because having cut content still in game files is very much an id thing

But if they were actually going to use it in the dlc then they would have removed it as fast as possible

[obsidian shard]

The Reanimator, it tracked demons, was a pretty cool weapon. Had ASS Damage tho

HOWEVER, DLC Stuff has been in the game since launch

(Slayer Gates)

[wintry forge]

If not the reanimator, they could always use the slot as something else for another cosmic weapon. I doubt it tho

[hard thistle]

Well if they don't use it, i hope they give us something for that slot at least. so we have a complete set

[green estuary]

would be cool if we got an entirely new weapon class
Wouldn’t exactly expect it though

[obsidian shard]

I wont report on any of the "Cut Content"

Since some of it isnt cut or it is cut and blah blah bah

[obsidian shard]

Exactly

[solar spoke]

a purist. respect

[solar spoke]

Maybe if we manifest time dilation we can get the DLC sooner

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/dio-za-warudo-gif-24644513

Me stopping time for everyone else in the discord so I alone get to play the dlc on release

[harsh egret]

congratz my guy

[fading bone]

thank you king

[warm ibex]

even more damning than Katsu's point - Colin Geller has posted a shit ton of concept art for the Reanimator. If they had planned on using it for the DLC, he wouldn't have been given permission to post it

[whole cedar]

Ohh

PS que mal

[chilly needle]

Just discovered you can throw your shield at lost souls. Guess I always panicked and never tried (me a billy of the silly). Also you can shoot those venom vomit, things that the mancubus and spider guy shoot at ya before they get to you. Neato

[harsh egret]

"you can shoot those venom vomit, things that the mancubus and spider guy shoot at ya before they get to you" what

is that actually a thing

[stark bough]

Might have to boot up ripatorium rq

[grim cloud]

trying this game on console for the first time. much difference experiance

[obsidian shard]

Yup, only the grenade launcher works on em

[green estuary]

prodeus chaos caster coming to the dlc confirmed

[topaz axle]

Para?

[whole cedar]

PS pa charlar

[topaz axle]

[harsh egret]

que

[chilly needle]

I shoot them with any gun seems to work

[chilly needle]

Ya that acid spit thingy they launch at ya.

[harsh egret]

im gonna have to test it myself later

wth lol

[whole cedar]

XD

Ñ

Ñ

[chilly needle]

Ya i just found out on accident hahaha

What setup do you guys like? I do the ssg, sword rune, and the flail/mace

[harsh egret]

i usually roll with the gauntlets and heaven splitter

[obsidian shard]

Flail and Auto-turret/Holy Swarm has been good

[hard thistle]

never thought to try this lol

[chilly needle]

Flail works best for my play style

[chilly needle]

🤣 same happened by complete accident haha

[hard thistle]

i've always just tried to dodge them or hide behind something😂

[chilly needle]

Definitely I always tried shooting them cause thats how in every other doom game

I have no idea why I didn't think of using the shield

[hard thistle]

this is my go-to also for most of the game. But I swap to holy swarm just for 1-on-1 boss fights, like azhrak

[green estuary]

runes actually don't make much difference in ahzrak's boss fight because of his lack of projectiles, but if I were to choose one, I'd go with either ground fissure for a little bit of extra armor or auto turret for a bit of extra damage

with holy swarm most of the daggers just miss his skinny hitbox anyways, and heaven splitter he just doesn't care and only takes the shock effect, which you can get with the cycler or gauntlets

[hard thistle]

i feel like holy swarms does the most single target damage, with auto targeting

auto turret, you kind of have to be facing the enemy

[green estuary]

it does, if you've got multiple targets in range

[hard thistle]

yea, but i assumed if it's just one nenemy, all the daggers go to that single enemy

[green estuary]

nope

most of the daggers miss a singular enemy unless you're standing quite far away (since their turn radius is limited), or the enemy has a chonky hitbox

[hard thistle]

hmm, i might have to test that out. cuz it might be a waste then

[grim cloud]

so watching streams, hugo mentions its hard to play tda since muscle memory from DLC messes him up. I wonder what kind of changes are in store.

thats like the issue i have when giong from Eternal back to any of the games. all due to dash ... DLC might have dash...

[green estuary]

I doubt it's the same kind of dash as in eternal
because he also never dashes when he plays eternal on stream lol

[grim cloud]

i wonder if this the ripatorium will stay with tda or have dlc stuff in it

[green estuary]

I 100% expect it to be updated with dlc stuff
maybe a couple dlc maps plus maybe another one from the base game, plus the dlc enemies

I don't think they're really too shy about including dlc AI and maps in base game features since they did it in eternal horde mode fairly liberally

[chilly needle]

I use holy swarm mainly cause of the heavies and boss fights. Its great for one on one

[grim cloud]

they avoided it in master levels however

[green estuary]

(the evil spectre whiplashes in the mars core ML)

[grim cloud]

"cant be done, not possible" modders were like "here it is!"

[chilly needle]

I use them for one on one's and boss fights works great for me. Especially enhanced azhrak

[obsidian shard]

Hugo Specifies "Its not what we expect"

(what we expect is Eternal's Dash)

[grim cloud]

spectre lashes were in vanilla, just not in the campaign if i remmeber right

[green estuary]

they were introduced in the holt

[grim cloud]

officially yes but modders found them hidden and playable i believe

but ill have to check on that, its been years

[green estuary]

I mean sure
it's just a reskin of a regular whiplash

[solar spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-norman-osborn-surprised-you-cant-do-this-to-me-gif-24182893

[green estuary]

[elder raven]

Something must be done about Katsu…

[obsidian shard]

But its Katsu

[solar spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/will-smith-rewind-time-happy-gif-14810665

we rewind time for Katsu back to the dev hell of Doom 4 and leave them there

[obsidian shard]

[solar spoke]

alternatively, 5 Komodos

[green estuary]

oh for christ's sake vega

my last gif was 2 hours ago

[obsidian shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/971218217852862544/1461533748972622038/Link_to_fast.gif

[heady trout]

ahzrak as mad as me when that happens lowk

[solar spoke]

I need a version of this gif where Rick Astley is inside

[solar cairn]

Now you need to press 3 times more buttons..

[grim cloud]

tda dlc hype is intensifying

[acoustic ginkgo]

Do ya’ll think we’ll be getting a second weapon for the chainshot class in the dlc?

[grim cloud]

maybe, there is a slot for it ...

but man there are a lot of weapons. we also need dedicated hotkeys for weapons. i hope that happens

none of this double clicking bullshit

[real crater]

damn

[hard thistle]

Hugo has to hype it up a bit. that's just how the marketing goes lol. ain't no way the dlc is that different that it's feeling like a completely different muscle memory. At that point it's basically another game

"Pressing a Weapon Class input twice in quick succession at the beginning of a weapon switch will now automatically equip the other weapon in that class if available" -- how come this feature was never added for console players? only for pc

[grim cloud]

i just wnat to press J for shotgun and press v for supershotgun. none of this swaping bs

and if i double press j, it does nothing

[real crater]

thats interesting because on console i can press the bind for ssg twice and get the combat shotty

[hard thistle]

that's just not true. Instantly, from a different weapon?

[real crater]

from a different weapon i can press the button binded to "shotgun" twice to get the combat shotgun

assuming ihad the ssg equipped before i switched away

[hard thistle]

it's a toggleable setting which doesn't exist on console. you are probably seeing something else . do you have a screenrecording? which console?

[real crater]

i'll make one rn

how am i gonna prove that i hit the shotgun bind though

not doing a handcam

[hard thistle]

@real crater #videos message

[real crater]

oh i didnt know you were talking about that

[hard thistle]

you just have to prove that you have ssg equipped, switch to a different weapon. then from that, switch directly to combat shotty

[hearty edge]

no it was in blood swamps

[real crater]

i was meaning that i could press the shotgun bind once to pull up ssg and then press it again to pull up combat

i never tried to switch to the combat the other way though because i never use it

[hard thistle]

yeah, that's standard behavior. the double tap is what i was wishing they added to console

[graceful rivet]

any news on the dark ages dlc?

[obsidian shard]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FdbLLjyz4xoto6AyutcgkoxggIWnbhW2Jnrf0f76OqE/edit?usp=sharing

[graceful rivet]

Thank you!

[obsidian shard]

Of course!
It'll most likely be updated on Thursday/Friday after the Hugo Stream

[graceful rivet]

can't wait i've been replaying tda and im excited

[chilly needle]

Ancestral forge completed (again) for pandemonium run. Theres s glitch if you get the wraith stone last before the aggadon hunter if you get the stone the head toward the hunter it barriers you in and you cant get out

[brittle finch]

Istg Eternal looks almost as good as Dark Ages and runs 2X better

[green estuary]

tbh I don't really see it
the two don't look even remotely similar in terms of quality for me

even the hell levels, where the two are arguably at their most similar (because of all the orange) tda is just so much better looking

[brittle finch]

There ain’t a big enough difference to justify the performance difference imo tho

[green estuary]

join the club of people ig lol

[haughty idol]

Would the cyberdemons wings even actually work

Do they follow the laws of aviation

Those wings look to small to lift its fat little body off the ground

[carmine harness]

was shield throw energy shield bounce nerfed?

i remember it being able to stagger arachnotrons in one single hit

[green estuary]

the energy bounce couldn't do that, but a charged shield bash can

[solar cairn]

I don’t know, on the contrary, it’s very convenient for me, holding 10 buttons only for weapons is somehow too much

[stone pasture]

What if we actually fight the baalgar before it became the doom 2016 cyberdemon

[warm ibex]

The Baalgar from 2016 was slain during a battle in the Titan's Realm in the third age

TDA is still the first age. Maybe in another game some day

[stone pasture]

Yeah, but we still need a prequel to eternal and a sequel to 2016, like, how he even get that fortress, where did samur send him, and all that

[sleek topaz]

It is too late, but it definitely serves well as a "postmortem" of the base game... the DLC must be released before GTA 6! https://youtu.be/oh40FyuVzUo?si=mYBwT8ee4vs97evb

[ancient atlas]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/811143370466131981/1488462765801607188/DOOM_The_Dark_Ages_2026.03.31_-_11.53.02.02.DVR_-_Trim.mp4?ex=69ccde79&is=69cb8cf9&hm=1651f9c9a5dc3961dcbcbe655b8266882c7835ffc06100f04945139524c28eea&

[ancient atlas]

me rn

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/811143370466131981/1488462821703417876/DOOM_The_Dark_Ages_2026.03.31_-_11.53.02.02.DVR_-_Trim1.mp4?ex=69ccde86&is=69cb8d06&hm=b1e4d79272a190c52270bc5f7aebd685d3a0d6187e0fe3902e0a55545ed0fd18& same run lmao

my positioning fucking sucks

[carmine harness]

i remember clearly that the bounce used to do that instantly

[warm ibex]

I'd honestly have to disagree, I don't think we need that at all. But that's a conversation for a different server channel and another day

[alpine pilot]

Where doom

[hard thistle]

Hugo mentioned that in the upcoming update they will give the cyberdemon a winged attack at close range, so it's much more threatening. I don't remember where i saw that, but I swear it's a thing lol

[humble furnace]

Anyone else feel like DOOM the Dark Ages' OST was blindly hated because it didn't have the name Mick Gordon under it?

[slender night]

100%

[vapid lodge]

agreed

I wanna meet the team man

amazing OST

[humble furnace]

I think it'd be cool if they made a remaster of DOOM 4 and dropped a little campaign DLC for it. Shouldn't be more than 40 bucks and it might even revitalize Snapmap and Multiplayer.

[vapid lodge]

I would probably scream of excitement meeting either Mick, Andrew, David or Finishing Move

[humble furnace]

I've literally never seen hate be so forced. It's not even like it's worse. I like it more personally. Mick is fantastic but in my honest opinion I really think his style would not fit the Dark Ages very well.

[vapid lodge]

Look, Mick did setup a whole new league for Metal, its not surprising that people still want his work to continue

but that does not mean others can't do it either

it was upsetting what happened, and we will never know the truth 100%

[humble furnace]

From what I heard from the scenario it sounds like Mick signed a contract to do this much music, failed to do it, and left. Which is reasonable but I don't think it's such a "Never forget what they did to Mick Gordon..." did they fucking crucify him?!

[vapid lodge]

Mick said the opposite was the case

he did double the work from what was agreed in the contract

[humble furnace]

Goddamn.

[vapid lodge]

literally double the time for the OST

[humble furnace]

Did they pay him?

[vapid lodge]

thats the question everybody is asking since the drama

Also 2016 OST is no longer available on spotify

as of yesterday

[humble furnace]

Why?

[vapid lodge]

Mick is aware and has no idea

[humble furnace]

What the hell?

[vapid lodge]

Yep

this is fresh

[humble furnace]

So Eternal's OST not releasing on Spotify wasn't because of him?

[vapid lodge]

We do not know exactly why it isnt, but there's definitely some legal issues here

I suspect they probably still didn't pay him hence why they can't release said OST

but Im just speculating

And I know everybody is following moral rules to not ask him directly

"bro what happened after the drama? Did you get into any lawsuits?"

Probably signed another NDA prior to this

[steady bane]

its cuz the world went crazy and mick decided that this peak should be hidden

[humble furnace]

Whatever the music producers or whoever is in charge of that shit were doing they were cooking nothing.

[vapid lodge]

I would just sometimes cut loose and not care, and ask everybody everything like a moron

but we can't do that cuz is not normal and probably wouldnt get anywhere

but it is upsetting that we do not know all of it

[steady bane]

didnt listen to it tho is it that bad?

[humble furnace]

This is legit stupid like y'all could've just paid him and made a lot of profits posting that OST on spotify and for sale on CDs and Vinyls.

[steady bane]

i know that mick gordon was a hell of a maestro for doom

[humble furnace]

Not the music I mean the drama. Like the guys that managed the business stuff on the music idk. Whoever was Mick's boss in the production of the game.

[steady bane]

big 9 string man

[vapid lodge]

Allegedly Mick said its Marty

[humble furnace]

DOOM the Dark Ages in my opinion surpasses DOOM 4 and DOOM Eternal's OST. Of course my preference for metal is more heavy.

[vapid lodge]

Gaming wise : 2016 > Dark ages > Eternal

Music: TDA > 2016 > Eternal

Eternal should have had so many prizes, almost got GOTY

[humble furnace]

If you listen to the OST listen to Into the Void, From the Ashes, Infernal Chasm, and Battle on the Blackened Tide.

[vapid lodge]

Infernal Chasm just rips man....

[steady bane]

thanks

[vapid lodge]

what a piece of amazing work is TDA OST

[humble furnace]

I'm glad the DOOM community can enjoy different games in their franchise and they aren't just copy and paste opinions. Like you can tell a lot from a person's top 3 DOOM games.

[vapid lodge]

can't wait for the DLC

[vapid lodge]

yeah they're all different

they werent trying to copy FIFA and COD formula = same game every launch LOL

[humble furnace]

For real.

I can't fucking wait for the DLC bro I'mma actually scream at the trailer.

[vapid lodge]

I already did that when TDA was out

Lost my voice

even recorded while that trailer was out, I could not believe it

[slender night]

I think I was the only person that had basically no reaction to the TDA trailer

[vapid lodge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/419773010744967169/796752157432741928/catjam.gif

me when TDA OST is playing

[humble furnace]

I actually was very cautious about it. Didn't get hyped until the cosmic realm trailer and the in-depth dev stuff. That's usually how my hype cycle goes for new games.

[humble furnace]

Each drum hit sounds like your getting beat to death by a medevil flail.

[vapid lodge]

What I didnt like was the forced raytracing

even tho I can run perfectly but that has cut a lot of players from playing the game

[humble furnace]

PC gaming always seemed like torture to me.

it's nice when it works but imo I can't handle all the extra steps they get annoying.

[vapid lodge]

well basically with a PC you can almost do anything, so it introduces a lot of freedom

as opposed to consoles that force you to only play on them, which is great because they're designed to be plug and play

same for iphones as opposed to androids

[humble furnace]

It's pros and cons. I'm just better with a controller and like physical media. I've never been a huge graphic head.

[frail bloom]

What???

[vapid lodge]

Yep

[frail bloom]

And no one knows why?

[vapid lodge]

Not kidding, Mick is aware and does not know either

Check it yourself

[frail bloom]

Bro I hope it goes back up, it's my least favorite ost but good is good

Oh no

Wait

Tda is still up but not 2016

Someone fix it

[foggy jasper]

DLC at the Xbox showcase?

[dusk robin]

did we get any new hints to the dlc on the recent live stream?

[elder raven]

dude it was crazy we got a dlc nugget about

[obsidian shard]

Yes we did, That was 2 weeks ago lol

[dusk robin]

what was it, its been a while since I last tuned in.

[obsidian shard]

#the-dark-ages message

[dusk robin]

cheers

[split gate]

We do a little bit of trolling

[vapid lodge]

I dont know what you mean

But the OST is not available on it

[split gate]

I know, it could be April Fools or something and even if it was, it’s a bit weird

[vapid lodge]

I mentioned that but this was a thing since a day or two

[split gate]

Ur right, it’s likely not a prank then. It’s quite odd

[vapid lodge]

Yep, we will see

[dusk robin]

I also checked, with some exceptions the majority of the ost is unplayable

[solar spoke]

Tomorrow Hugo announces that the Diablo crossover was the DLC

[tropic pawn]

Finished TDA and I love it pretty much 100% everything

[chilly needle]

Its addicting game play

[tropic pawn]

literally every doom game is like a drug

[chilly needle]

And I need my fix and reup daily

[grim cloud]

finally caught up on streams, just waiting for the next one. there wasn't one last week it seems

[topaz axle]

[grim cloud]

oh and i go pretty much all the diablo tda stuff. took a bit. now i can pretend its a doom dungeon action rpg. too bad the game gets boring pretty fast

[stuck basalt]

wat

oh wait tommorow is april 1st 💀

[steady bane]

ts is straight gas

[obsidian shard]

Real and True

[steady bane]

even the ost from the doom 2016 didnt hit that hard

the breakdowns in tda ost is so good

[last geyser]

2016 ost > eternal

[obsidian shard]

All Preference

[fleet spruce]

yeah

[neon gust]

big fan of Ancestral Beast too

I should probably rank all Doom tracks again

[shut river]

Hollon chat, am I supposed to get atlan and serrat skins after I beat pandemonium or not? (or I gotta do it on unmodified save slot?)

Cuz I just killed azhrak on pandemonium, with slider being
Dmg: 250%-100%
Stunning attacks
1 more life sigil
Items worth more

And I only got slayer skin

[shut river]

And this is the reason why I love doom ngl

[frosty roost]

@shut river pandemonium only gives you the slayer skin, not the atlan or dragon one

[shut river]

Oh

So basically I gotta do un to get atlan and serrat ig

[frosty roost]

@shut river yup, gotta do that to get the slayer, atlan and serrat skins

[shut river]

Hopefully I will be able to complete it w/o touching the sliders someday

[shut river]

Gotta keep em from there for now, cuz I kinda suck

[frosty roost]

honestly play however you like, completely valid!

[shut river]

Tbh it's not for the public opinion n stuff, I kinda just want to have that feeling of accomplishment of a great challenge

But it is a bit too early for me rn

[stuck basalt]

using the gold skin once the dlc comes out

[spiral crow]

Get ready for alot of "THE DLC IS OUT GUYS!"

On April 1st

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/jensen-ackles-dean-winchester-jensen-ackles-hang-gif-11212717340208479408

[elder raven]

jay never type

i see you

[stone pasture]

Doom 4? You mean 2016, plus that game is finished

[split gate]

It’s already out in my imagination, I’m playing it in my head rn, it’s sick af

[hard thistle]

Maybe the DLC lives on in all our hearts

[sleek topaz]

[sleek topaz]

This is a taboo to talk about here.

[sleek topaz]

Something like that. But he resurrected, like Jesus.

[sleek topaz]

This is the only song I actually enjoyed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yyDstDV2lo

[sleek topaz]

If David Levy made it work, so would Mick, rest assured. #music message

[twilit stone]

Thronebreaker made me wish even more than Levy did the TDA ost, as if Immora and UAC Atlantica werent already enough proof

[fleet spruce]

Thronebreaker is cool but way too synthy for TDA imo

I'm sure that both Hulshult and Levy would have made a killer soundtrack for TDA if they worked on it

[fleet spruce]

I always find it funny when people call TDA music generic , shows they clearly don't understand what they're talking about

[green estuary]

you just gotta ask them what the music sounds like, then
if it's so generic they should be able to tell you what it's so similar to

[fleet spruce]

I haven't seen someone who actually done that so far

[alpine pilot]

[obsidian shard]

Whats up Polech

[midnight cedar]

Where doom?

[sleek topaz]

Jesper Kyd should have score DOOM The Dark Ages.

[haughty idol]

Guys the DLC is out!!!

The DLC guys they released it

They came out with the DLC for doom the dark ages

[obsidian shard]

I think Finishing Move should have

Their Halo Anniversary Stuff was good, and then their Borderlands and Grounded Music was awesome too

[fleet spruce]

Halo 2 Anniversary is awesome

[twilit stone]

Wouldnt even say generic, just a handful of them are kinda annoying, like they're trying too hard

[split gate]

Can’t believe it’ll be just a month and over until TDA’s first anniversary

[twilit stone]

still feels like it came out a month ago at most

[harsh egret]

i smell an announcement this month...

[twilit stone]

lets hope so, i mean it's literally been almost a year

[harsh egret]

hugo surprise stream for april fools with a fake dlc trailer showing up at the start of the stream instead of the regular trailer

out now

[twilit stone]

nah i bet it'll reveal the title as "The Ancient Gods. Pt. 3"

or DOOM Eternal 2, one of the two

[harsh egret]

im personally not basing it off of how much time has passed, just that they have been updating stuff on the steam page recently so I think smth is up

The trailer 2 on steam is now the chinese version which is kinda hilarious

[split gate]

I’m hoping for one soon, I always thought they would announce something before a year had passed since the game released

[harsh egret]

The "stand and fight" text is in chinese and i just burst out laughing

nvm they fixed it lmao

but that happened yesterday

[twilit stone]

id software do be a bit silly sometimes

[hazy pasture]

That one time when devs were having fun with the tags for TDA

[harsh egret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/491020118780805140/1488865278409314494/image.png?ex=69ce5558&is=69cd03d8&hm=67a7f0ee7b6b721ca2aac026a5c299e22890f153058a72ab6fb677d8c596c4bc&

devs arent the ones changing the tags necessarily tho

[hazy pasture]

That I'm quite aware of

[mystic barn]

The new trailer that Kruge put together is getting a lot of attention because people seem convinced it’s the DLC announcement. They’re getting antsy out there

[twilit stone]

We are starved tbf

No trailer or release date

[hard thistle]

which trailer?

[solid nacelle]

I wouldn't say we're completely starved when they've been willing to share as many details about it as they have

[twilit stone]

i need it

[split gate]

Apparently it’s clickbait when they only needed to learn to read the title, Kruge doesn’t deserve that 😭

[twilit stone]

you overestimate the intelligence of the youtube comment section

[harsh egret]

i love how someone had to comment "fuck this game for being only RT" on the vid

like ok

[split gate]

I unfortunately do more than you think

[twilit stone]

give it a few years and it'll be as dumb as tiktok comment sections

[ionic glade]

Kruge’s stuff is peak. His music video for your blood spill remix is 🔥

[humble furnace]

Unholy Siege is rocking but saying you felt nothing when listening to into the void seems unrealistic. That song is crazy.

Have you played the game?

[humble furnace]

I call it DOOM 4 cause I'm sick of calling it 2016. It's not a reboot or anything (In canon/lore it isnt') it's just a dumb naming scheme. In every sense of it's existence it is DOOM 4 except the official title.

[obsidian shard]

That's funny asf ngl

[split gate]

It’s gotten so bad man, the amount of time I used social media’s lessened a lot, I barely go to it anymore

[twilit stone]

GOOD

[split gate]

TDA is so fun the less you hear about all the unreasonable complaints

[twilit stone]

all my complaints come from the story (moreso story presentation) and that the ost is kinda annoying sometimes. other than that, I'd say it's a tad overhated (just a tad tho)

[obsidian shard]

This is NOT epic

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