the-dark-ages

[hearty edge]

You get the SSG on mission 5 I think

The first few missions are short tho like 30 mins each

[neon grail]

oh

[fading bone]

dont SPOIL it for him bro let him play

[solar cairn]

As I understand it, the main content for the game is ready and now they need a few months to polish it and fix bugs?

[neon grail]

It's way to laggy

Well my laptop is like 3 years old

I need 6679 Vram

Bro😭

[jolly obsidian]

Yo chat

Is there mods in dark ages

[merry sapphire]

to be fair the ssg in this game is kinda boring compared to doom eternal ssg

like they just straight up give it to you with no hype or nothing

i miss the unique ways we get weapons in doom eternal ngl

[stone idol]

i finally completed the campaign

[merry sapphire]

like how you can see the ballista being made in the background, the ssg having a whole level dedicated to it, the plasma gun being taken away from a guard (granted you get the gun much earlier but its cool that they kept the animation)

[slender night]

How was it

[stone idol]

i really enjoyed it ngl but the campaign was a bit short in my opinion

i did it 100%

[slender night]

Short compared to other modern AAA titles I assume?

[stone idol]

yea u could say that

it wasnt that bad tho

also one thing that bothered me is that the glory kills got taken out and u could only do it from above

[slender night]

Hmm I can't really comment because I don't really play new games much. But it felt like the longest game id Software's ever put out, to me

[slender night]

I liked this personally

[stone idol]

ah

[stone idol]

ya i can understand opinions

[slender night]

Immediate great first impression

🍻

I've seen lots of people scalp eachother to death over glory kills in TDA

[stone idol]

yea i dont go that way

[slender night]

Based

[stone idol]

im really excited for the upcoming dlc tho

they said its gonna be long

[slender night]

Yeah I'm looking forward to it too. I adored the base campaign, I thought it improved on what I didn't like about Eternal and then some. Can't wait to see what they cook up

[stone idol]

i cant lie doing the campaign was sometimes kinda difficult and i had to cheat with watching some youtube videos on how to get some secrets where i got stuck

[slender night]

Play however you wish to play! It's your sandbox after all

[stone idol]

also i really really liked the dragon and the atlan gameplay. that definitely made the game so much better in my opinion

[slender night]

I liked the dragon but the mech not so much

[stone idol]

understandable

im really suprised that i only died one time in the whole campaign

[fleet spruce]

Ah yes, i remember that one particular convo in #doom-2016

[slender night]

So do I 😟

[slender night]

That's pretty good

I died a few times but nowhere near as much as in Eternal

[stone idol]

yeah eternal was so difficult

[fleet spruce]

Eternal is just overall much more demanding from player, you got billion projectiles flying at mach 5 that you have to dodge and super aggressive enemies, you WILL die. And that's not mentioning the execution aspect of the experience...

[neon grail]

Beaten 2 chapters

With insane lag

[elder raven]

The Illustrious Wonder of the Cyber Manc’s Acid AOE attack: (that is, completely bullshit)

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/bornskywalker-dap-me-up-woody-woody-handshake-woody-toy-story-gif-26021440

Their cool lil gimmicks that spread out the game imo

[wintry forge]

The dragon segments are alright, pretty fun, but honestly I love the Atlan sections, especially after the update

[frail bloom]

They're aight

Kinda eh

[fading bone]

yeah theyre definitely my least favorite part but its a good little spacer to chill with

[stone idol]

damn, nice nitro badge

[fading bone]

hmm?

[chilly needle]

Dragon i love alot. The whoe TDA immersion though wasn't there for me. Combat and gameplay are 10/10 though.

And maybe a hot take...I dont like the cosmic realm...basically I hate anything Lovecraft related, chithulu, or tentacles.

But man the game is still so addicting that anything i dont like about it isnt a deterrent

[twilit stone]

Half agree, kinda sorta

[chilly needle]

I know the majority love the Lovecraft setting stuff. Id rather have a 2016 vibe any day.

[fleet spruce]

so, you want Doom 3 vibe actually

[twilit stone]

2016 and 3 very much have a different vibe. similar, but different

[chilly needle]

No not at all do I want a doom 3 anything. I want a 2016 vibe.

[slender night]

I like the cosmic realm, just wish we'd keep Lovecraftian stuff for Quake. Don't need NuDOOM cannibalizing even more of it

[chilly needle]

Eternal or TDA gameplay mixed with the 2016 vibe is peak. Though the vibe for eternal fits well and is perfect I just personally love the 2016 vibe.

[chilly needle]

Quake needs the reboot bad

[fleet spruce]

certainly have distinction but way too similar overall

[twilit stone]

3 takes place during a demonic invasion whilst 2016 takes place in the aftermath. In that regard 2016's always felt a lot more eerie to me, because in 3 you're constantly encountering NPCs numerous times from the start to the end of the campaign. There's this weird sense of safety and comfort because of that. Contrast with 2016 where everyone is dead excepts some robot, an AI, and a crazy cyborg lady who caused the demonic invasion in the first place. 2016 just doesn't have that same comfort

[alpine pilot]

[fading bone]

where doom

[slender night]

This is true but it felt opposite to me because DOOM 3 shows you the horrors of the invasion in a horrifying way, by constantly showing you that these were normal average people getting wrapped up in this, just trying to live their life, and their pleading and at the end of the game knowing you are the only survivor (which is retconned with Lost Mission but still). With 2016, while it's true that the carnage is objectively more extreme, the game doesn't present it that way, at most it's like, "this person got killed by demons so now you have to go find their arm" or something

Point is that presentation won me over

[twilit stone]

ehhh I dunno. I see it, but I've always found 3 kinda try-hard with its horror, to the point of coming off quite goofy. Which is not a bad thing might I add, it adds to that game's charm, and the game certainly has moments of genuine terror

[heady trout]

I haven't played 3, but 2016 goes for a "you're the last one left" vibe and I appreciate that

[slender night]

I like those two people at the start of the invasion that are trying to fix a vent or something and one of them gets pulled in, because the guy that screams sounds EXACTLY like Quagmire and I can never take it seriously

[twilit stone]

I'm a sucker for wandering into the desolate aftermath of something horrific, 2016 just scratches that itch for me

[heady trout]

same

[twilit stone]

yeah and as much as I do love Betruger, his Palpatine laughs and corny-ass "most evil man alive" dialogue certainly don't help in making the game scarier lol

[heady trout]

the more modern/clean looking areas really feel completely desolate

[slender night]

Nah I actually really dig him, just don't like how stupid his head looks when it's sticking out of the Maledict. Anyway severely off-topic so if we are to continue I'd do it in general

[heady trout]

shit like foundry or resource ops are understandably empty but the more lived in places do feel eerily empty

[twilit stone]

oh yeah um Dark: the Doom Ages is good game

[chilly needle]

You freaking know it dawg

[obsidian shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1475949397971042326/1478971908283306098/alsxuc.gif

[twilit stone]

I've certainly grown on it, Ancestral Beast, Unholy Siege and Into the Void are genuinely fantastic, among others

[chilly needle]

The soundtrack isnt bad at all. It just had to follow mick. And thats not fair for any musician to have to follow mick. What a pedestal to be placed upon.

[slender night]

Idk I personally thought they crushed it

[frail bloom]

Ye Eternal's my fav of the modern trilogy but tda is a close second, and it's just what I think

I'm not shackled by bias, good music is good music

[twilit stone]

Real yeah, ridiculously high expectations. But honestly I'm more than happy more artists are getting a chance to give us different kinds of music. Its just.. a shame the circumstances that led us to this point, which definitely didnt help for a lot of people

[slender night]

This is just that "holy shit! two cakes!" meme to me

Eternal had a great OST, TDA had a great OST, it's dope as hell to be able to say that

[twilit stone]

(And 2016)

[hearty edge]

and TAG

four cakes

[slender night]

We could list every single DOOM game and have a quadrillion cakes

[quiet crow]

Can someone give me a menacing doom slayer stare for me pls

[slender night]

I only mentioned Eternal because that's the OST I've seen people defend with their life the most

[twilit stone]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-slayer-gif-26381601

[hearty edge]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doom-the-dark-ages-standing-still-fire-gif-803877051309245078

[fleet spruce]

yes, both Blood Swamps tracks are my favourite tracks from Eternal

[hearty edge]

same

[slender night]

This includes DOOM 3's OST btw

[quiet crow]

Anyone have a glory kill gif

[fleet spruce]

Doom 3 main theme is a massive fucking cake indeed

[obsidian shard]

Def is up their alongside the other DOOM Soundtracks

[twilit stone]

Dont forgot Classic DOOM. Into Sandy's City, On the Hunt

[hearty edge]

https://tenor.com/view/doomslayer-glory-kill-doom-gif-16808615

[slender night]

The entire OST is

[obsidian shard]

I Sawed the Demons is my freaking favouite Classic DOOM Track

[twilit stone]

DOOM 3 has some amazing ambient themes

[slender night]

You can drop the entire tracklist of the classic games, including TNT, and there are zero stinkers there

[fleet spruce]

I Sawed The Demons is a fun one too, classic Doom music is just great

[quiet crow]

Thank u I love the glory kills

[hearty edge]

doom 64...

[slender night]

64 has no stinkers either yeah

[fading bone]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-eternal-glory-kill-doom-glory-kill-doom-eternal-zombie-gif-18694440

[fleet spruce]

right, there's also the intro and ambience (i still prefer 64 ambience tho)

[obsidian shard]

Also theirs a new DOOM: Arena Board Game Update if anyone wants me to send it

[twilit stone]

Terraformer from 64 is so creepy

And the one with the baby cries mixed it. That game did Silent Hill music before Silent Hill even existed

[hearty edge]

i'mma be honest the lack of some punchy music to favor ambience the whole time drag it down for me

[fleet spruce]

Alpha Quadrant is thick atmosphere

[quiet crow]

I love doom it has a very special place in my heart

I’ve always loved doom

Every game I play of it I get happy

[obsidian shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/900746799919288432/1408569518384611378/watch_yo_tone_mf.gif

[quiet crow]

What about y’all wats ur favorite doom game

[fleet spruce]

lmao

[quiet crow]

Wait is that in the dlc

[twilit stone]

1. 2016
2. Eternal
3. 3
4. Classic
5. TDA
6. 64

[hearty edge]

i still find it funny how i started to play doom like only 3 years ago and it's already become my 3rd favorite franchise

[hearty edge]

it's just the dark ages

[slender night]

Valid but disagreed, I think 64 being dull and creepy the entire time makes it unique af

[obsidian shard]

Its in the base game

Dark Ages has Glory Kills

[fleet spruce]

baby cries are directly from PSX Doom, there are like 3 similar tracks to PSX in 64

[random sand]

TDA

[obsidian shard]

Just gotta jump above demons to trigger them

[fleet spruce]

nice consistency

[obsidian shard]

TDA and Eternal

[hearty edge]

for me it goes

1. TDA
2. Eternal
3. Doom II/ Doom + Doom II
4. 2016
5. Doom 3
6. Doom 64

[quiet crow]

No that demon

[chilly needle]

64 to me didn't have a real soundtrack. Like quake. Just ambient sounds. I get it its for effect but id rather have heaby metal to kill too

[hearty edge]

yea it's in the base game

it's a cacodemon

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-the-dark-ages-demon-cacodemon-gif-2022492627105848245

[quiet crow]

Absolutely love that

[slender night]

It would not be the same game then

[random sand]

is that just a regular melee finisher or is that an actual glory kill? from what i know, you can't glory kill the caco

[fleet spruce]

That's Cacodemon, just it drank the eldritch juice

[quiet crow]

I’ve never seen that style

[chilly needle]

It would be better

[obsidian shard]

Actual Glory Kill

[hearty edge]

you actually can but it's really difficult

[obsidian shard]

He also has one from behind

[hearty edge]

i thought he got sawed in half

[obsidian shard]

REALLLY Hard to get since you do have to be ABOVE the demon

[slender night]

Ehhh, I don't think it would, personally

[random sand]

god damn. now i wanna see these

[hearty edge]

it's this game's brotato

[quiet crow]

Is it like rare to see that variant

[hearty edge]

it's the only cacodemon in the game

[obsidian shard]

Thats just the Cacodemon lol

[twilit stone]

Hoping the meatballs return in the DLC

[hearty edge]

cuz some of the demons fused with the cosmic realm so now they're eldritch hybrids

like the baron of hell that now has scythes as hands

[quiet crow]

Well there is cacodemons in the chapter where u retrieve the old one

[hearty edge]

i would like the brown ball to return

[twilit stone]

Actually yeah that'd be more fitting

[obsidian shard]

Theirs also Giant Cacodemons,so theirs technically 2 different types of cacos

[quiet crow]

U know what my favorite demon is I love the icon of sin

The icon of sin it’s just cool asfk

[hearty edge]

my favorite will always be the cyberdemon in basically every game

[twilit stone]

My favs are any variant of Hell Knights and Revenants

[hearty edge]

except i think i like the doom hunter and marauder more in eternal

[quiet crow]

I love the Marauder too

[hearty edge]

bum ahh eternal revenant dies in 2 sticky bombs

[quiet crow]

I love how they made one of the slayers allies a corrupted into a demon

[fleet spruce]

Not really, it doubles down on PSX Doom design decisions, one of the best games atmospherically in the series imo

[random sand]

and his screams are annoying as hell

[quiet crow]

The marauder is so cool I love how he says YOU WERE NEVER ONE OF US U ARE NOTHING BUT A USED SERPER

[twilit stone]

yeah but they look cool 🥺

[obsidian shard]

"Ya we need to Make the Cyberdemon again, its one of the fan favourite so how are we gonna make it cool?"

"Give it wings"

[frail bloom]

When is that new attack comin vro

[slender night]

I always hated their Eternal design because of the weird metal plating on their heads

[obsidian shard]

Idk, Ask Hato about when NG+ is coming

[hearty edge]

make it create spikes all over the arena and shoot skulls

[random sand]

you know it's rare when the vids i watch that supposedly has "all glory kills" doesn't even include it. now that i think about it. they don't have the cyberdemon either

[twilit stone]

Fair. Eternal's is definitely my least fav Revenant too

[quiet crow]

So question how many of the slayers people got corrupted in the same kind of form as the marauder

[hearty edge]

like half

or something like that

[chilly needle]

I know im the minority on this opinion

[quiet crow]

So basically like a whole marauder army

[hearty edge]

i feel the art direction of doom 64 makes it so that heavy metal wouldn't fit but i am with you that i would've prefered something other than ambience

[chilly needle]

Its an unpopular opinion i know, im just not a fan of the ambience for an entire game.

[hearty edge]

playing it with headphones kinda sounds empty imo

[chilly needle]

Ya like it just needed something. It fits better for quake 1

[hearty edge]

also the fact that there's a stamina bar also drags it down for me

like ts is supposed to be the same guy that would outrun rockets for a whole level and wouldn't get tired in doing so

[fleet spruce]

Doom is a spectrum, it's not always blasting metal , sometimes it's taking a look at the gravity of aftermath of an demonic invasion. Modern games lean more into the former. Preference moment i guess... That being said Into the Void is probably my favourite track in the series so far.

[slender night]

Are you maybe confusing it for DOOM 3?

64 has no stamina bar

[hearty edge]

wait lemme check

[chilly needle]

Well put

[hearty edge]

yea uhm why can't i start the goddamn game

[quiet crow]

Question

R we getting another doom game

[obsidian shard]

No idea but the DLC basically is one

[quiet crow]

Is it going to go more in depth of how the slayer got the outpost

[obsidian shard]

The Fortress?

Or the Kreed's ship?

[hearty edge]

like it sets my resolution all weird and when i try to click play nothing happens

[quiet crow]

Fortress

[obsidian shard]

no idea but Probably not

[fleet spruce]

It has been stated before that Dark Ages isn't going to be the last game

[warm ibex]

we will always get another doom game

we love them and id software seems to love making them

[stuck basalt]

doom ternal

[heady trout]

do maternal

[green estuary]

doomy turnal

[chilly needle]

They need to reboot quake or a make a new ip for a bit then co tongue post eternal. Luke the next 10 years have then do a new ip then its time to open the sarcophagus

[warm ibex]

I'd rather them finish the medieval saga before rebooting quake

[fleet spruce]

Can we have them release an doom 4 build for 2016's 10th anniversary

[harsh egret]

jeremy clarkson ahh sentence

[fleet spruce]

lmao

[harsh egret]

"that is... an river "

[chilly needle]

I mean obviously they need to finish this game and dlc first but post TDA they need to click refresh on a lot of stuff. Im always wanting some more Keen but I think a fresh new IP is the way to go. But ill buy whatever they make im sure if its id software.

[obsidian shard]

More Keen in the big 26 🥀

[harsh egret]

i'd be shocked if they dont make at the very least one more doom game after tda

[warm ibex]

eh I'd have to disagree. I don't think there's much of a point in starting an entirely new saga and then immediately taking a lengthy break right after the first entry

Post-Eternal would've been a good time for them to revisit another franchise. They instead chose to explore Doom's medieval era, so imo they need to see it through before jumping around to other franchises. Finish the story before starting a new one

[chilly needle]

I wouldn't say they started a new saga. To me its part of the 2016 saga. TdA should be wrapping it all up

[warm ibex]

Theo nly thing is that it's not wrapping it all up

[obsidian shard]

Thats the fun thing!

It doesnt....

[chilly needle]

But ya I agree post eternal would've been a great time to start

[obsidian shard]

The Ever fabled Sentinel Civil War:

[chilly needle]

Hey ill take more doom no matter what

They could make a milling games based off the lore they have pre 2016

[warm ibex]

same lol. And I'm not trying to argue or anything, I'm just saying that TDA is the very beginning of a storyline that runs on for a very long time

[stuck basalt]

will daisy become the rat king from tlou 2

[harsh egret]

mention that game in the eternal chat and u get banned

[chilly needle]

Im absolutely more than happy with more doom

[stuck basalt]

whats doom

[harsh egret]

doom

[stuck basalt]

oh

[alpine pilot]

where doom

[warm ibex]

check behind your ear

[chilly needle]

Which im more than happy with keep the doom coming.

[stuck basalt]

dlc releases yesterday guys

[spiral crow]

I'm already playing the DLC

It's called the ancient gods part 3 that's a prequel to part 1 and 2 taking place after the events of dark ages

But on a real note, replaying 2016 to replay Eternal to replay dark ages

But personally, atleast in my mind, the DLC is coming out on TDA's first anniversary

That's what my gut is telling me

[stuck basalt]

lowkey i hope we get a trailer to prove when its coming out
i hope its may tho bcs thats when im free for an entire month and can play

[scenic lichen]

Ancient gods the dark ages

[gritty sun]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls2XRI9pvgw

Which side is this guy on ? :DD

[solar spoke]

DOOM: The Dark Ages - Age of Komodo

[solar cairn]

It would be amazing

[hearty edge]

when is tda's anniversary

may 25th

[random sand]

May 15th

[solid nacelle]

15th

[spiral crow]

Yeah may 15th

[rotund rune]

Why does this game get such insane sales? I've never seen a successful game like this one getting 60% sales inside the first year

I suppose it's because of Xbox pass

[harsh egret]

eternal went on sale for 50% off 3 months after release and then it went on sale for 67% off 8 months after release...

[hearty edge]

steam just does that sometimes

[spiral crow]

I'll believe you because i honestly can't remember

[rotund rune]

Why? I rarely see this in modern games

[harsh egret]

u can check price history on SteamDB

[spiral crow]

No need because Hato you're the goat

[harsh egret]

no clue honestly

but im not complaining

[spiral crow]

I mean atleast people are able to get the game and play it

[frosty roost]

We all love Hato and Jay here ❤️

[spiral crow]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-walter-white-youre-goddamn-right-gif-14600753

[rotund rune]

It's PS tho

[south pilot]

why tf does doom 64 get so much hate

its fire

[spiral crow]

When you see someone hate, usually they love it in secret

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-james-doakes-surprise-mf-can't-prove-it-gif-7408854170742055240

[hearty edge]

the point of a list is that there's a top and a bottom

doom 64 just lands in the bottom for me

[coral storm]

[spiral crow]

My list

1. TDA
2. Eternal
3. Doom 2
4. Doom
5. Doom 64
6. Doom 3
7. Doom (2016)

Yes doom 2016 is at the bottom for me it's still a good game but rough around the edges

[swift peak]

2016 bottom is criminal

[spiral crow]

[foggy jasper]

2016 and 3 at the bottom

[spiral crow]

I'm sorry they aren't bad games, they are still great, i just perfer to play the ones at the top

[foggy jasper]

Yeah everyone has their own perferences

I think Doom 3 is criminally underrated myself

[spiral crow]

The thing is, it is, i never understood the hate for it, i loved it for what it was

It's like with TDA, i never understood the hate it got because it's like the most Doom Doom game we've ever gotten

[unkempt dragon]

It's wild to me how people like 3 in this server more than 2016. And the answer is always "horror"

[foggy jasper]

TDA is the only doom I've actually played through front to back

I lost my 3 save data 4 times lol

[spiral crow]

Pain

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-james-mocking-joking-kidding-sarcasm-gif-5731274879454463322

[foggy jasper]

But yeah TDA wasn't my favorite FPS of all time, but I can still agree that TDA is really freaking good

[unkempt dragon]

not sure what you mean but alr

[foggy jasper]

93/100

[unkempt dragon]

I know you love 2016 with me!!

[foggy jasper]

Doom VFR 🔥

[green estuary]

when the imp jumps at me from behind the door in doom 3 and I have to act like I'm scared

[unkempt dragon]

oh lulz

I have so many comments I want to make but this is a peaceful convo so I will now bow out lmao

[foggy jasper]

Doom 3 VR is pretty creepy, I jumped at literally almost everything lol

[unkempt dragon]

carry on

[foggy jasper]

I have some gameplay saved somewhere

[frosty roost]

I love 2016

[brittle finch]

I think Nvidia Reflex is bugged in this game cus turning it on takes like 20% of my FPS and doesn’t even help much with input delay

[hearty edge]

smth similar happens with present from compute that also takes away fps sometimes

[fleet spruce]

present form compute seems to have varying effects depending on the hardware

[brittle finch]

Like this game’s implementation of Reflex was THE reason why I hated Reflex for so long until I realized it specifically sucks ass in this game

[brittle finch]

I tried turning it on for 1 mission and I literally restarted the mission 10% through because Reflex felt so bad to me

[brittle finch]

Or technically 25% depending on how you look at it

50 FPS down to 40

And 50 is 125% of 40

[south pilot]

there can never be a good doom list

[random sand]

What would a good doom list include

[south pilot]

tier list of all the games

best to worst

[random sand]

What's the correct one

Or "correct"

[twilit stone]

not really a correct one cuz they all different, its down to preference ultimately

[random sand]

Which is why i put it in quotationmarks

[coral cove]

1:Doom, doom 2, doom 64, doom 2016, doom eternal doom the dark ages

2:Doom 3

[random sand]

Is this by release order or which you like most?😭

[coral cove]

(The joke is theres only 2 theirs. The doom teir and the doom 3 teir)

[south pilot]

exactly

its subjective

[random sand]

That i noticed. But i'm more focused on how the list is almost in release order

[uneven dragon]

evil opinion

i consider you a lower lifeform over this opinion

[coral cove]

What? Do you LIKE doom 3 or something?

[uneven dragon]

yes

it's better than doom 2 and 64 also

[random sand]

For me i'd say it's

1. Doom TDA
2. Doom Eternal
3. Doom 2016
4. Doom 1
5. Doom 64
6. Doom 2
7. Doom 3 (haven't played yet)

[uneven dragon]

1. The Dark Ages
2. Doom 2016
3. Legacy of Rust
4. Doom Eternal (w/ DLCs)
5. Doom (w/ expansions)
6. Doom 3 (w/ DLCs)
7. Doom 2 (w/ NRFTL and Master Levels)
8. Doom 64
9. Final Doom

[random sand]

Ah we counting LOR and Final Doom too? Needa check those out too

[south pilot]

1: doom eternal
2: doom 2016 + tda
3: tag 1
4: tag 2
5: doom 2
6: 64
7: doom 1

i havent played doom 3 fully so i wont rank it

[uneven dragon]

im cheating a bit by not counting legacy of rust as a doom 2 expansion lol i just like it so much

[twilit stone]

1. 2016
2. Eternal
3. 3
4. II
5. I
6. TDA

7. 64

[random sand]

Laaaame

[uneven dragon]

also it's the only expansion that adds new enemies and weapons and has a new level format so really it should be its own game

[uneven dragon]

i respect the placement of doom 3 here

[twilit stone]

I still like TDA, I just have a preference for sci-fi over fantasy

[uneven dragon]

TDA gameplay over 2016 setpieces 🤤

[warped saffron]

What is Present From Compute set to? Reflex usually tanks FPS with PFC off.

[random sand]

Doom is about fighting demons. It's always been fantasy. But i suppose i know what you mean

[twilit stone]

yeah and I won't deny TDA's a better videogame, 2016's very rough in areas

[brittle finch]

Oh

[uneven dragon]

legacy of rust is legit like one of the best doom campaigns and welll final doom is mixed, i think tnt is pretty bad but ambitious for its time, and i think plutonia is basically doom 2 if it was good

[brittle finch]

I had that off

[random sand]

They on steam?

[twilit stone]

DOOM has always been about the fusion of sci-fi and fantasy. It's even in the original logo, one half is techy and electrical looking, the other is a brick wall, one side represents Hell and the other is the UAC. TDA is almost entirely about the fantasy side by contrast

[uneven dragon]

grab DOOM + DOOM II on steam

[random sand]

I have it. Bought the bundle with all dooms

[uneven dragon]

oh then you should be good

[random sand]

Nice. I'll check it out when i get back home. That and doom 3

[uneven dragon]

that comes with Doom (+ the expansions Sigil and Sigil II), Doom II (+ the expansions Master Levels and No Rest For The Living), Final Doom and Legacy of Rust

[random sand]

Nice

[uneven dragon]

Legacy of Rust's soundtrack is so good it's in like my top 3 doom soundtracks

[random sand]

Now i'm intrigued

I'm a music man you can say. If a game has a good soundtrack, i will be there no matter what

[uneven dragon]

LoR does a really good job of having leitmotifs that play throughout the game and having a real musical throughline throughout the levels

I loved how they did that in TDA too, the Slayer leitmotif for example is real cool whenever we hear it

[fleet spruce]

Legacy of Rust my beloved

[random sand]

Atlan Battleground was phenomenal with that. It sounded straight outta 2016, had 64's theme in it, had some parts that sounded a little like Eternal. It had it all

[twilit stone]

Makes sense it sounds like 2016 considering it takes place on Mars

[uneven dragon]

also makes since it would have 64's theme given it's a return to Mars

[random sand]

They really put thought into that one. I love it

I also love Blood Spill because it really captures doom the dark ages. It has the medieval aspect, it has the heavy metal, it has the epic melodies. It has it all

[mystic barn]

One of Finishing Move’s best pieces is Into the Void. It’s basically their BFG Division and is composed similarly too. You have this rolling, driving guitar riff, an instantly recognisable melodic hook, and it’s composed in such a way that the snare can stand out. Battle on the Blackened Tide is a masterclass in storytelling through music via the use and development of Doomguy’s theme

[uneven dragon]

Yeah Into the Void is definitely the best of the soundtrack

weirdly Blood Red is the one I find myself coming back to the most tho

[random sand]

Couldn't have said it better myself

[rough needle]

Dark ages that bad for u?

[twilit stone]

nah none of the games lower on my list are bad, I just love it less. I really do love all these games, I just have prefer certain ones over the others

[noble coral]

wow this final boss fight is ass

[fading bone]

oh ok

[heady trout]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-fake-false-fact-checked-fact-gif-3692826964065029091

[flat elm]

New DLC news for the week:
Jonn Romero vocing Khan maykr and Jonn Carmack voicing the Dopefish, it would be the final boss of the DLC. Who is the True Dark Lord and disguise himself as Daysy.

The source: Just trust me bro

[twilit stone]

finally some actually interesting news!

[south pilot]

i pray we see the khan makyr and shit in the dlc

or atleast

something like that

[dark thunder]

Do I have news for you

[south pilot]

yes you do

lets hear

[swift peak]

God I wish I wasn’t musically illiterate and could actually hear the slayers motif and understand what it is

[harsh egret]

well its confirmed so

[south pilot]

wow

[spiral crow]

Not just that but i'll be voicing Daisy in the dlc trust

[foggy jasper]

I saw some people ranking the doom games so here's mine:
1: Doom 2016
2: Doom 3
3: Doom TDA
4: Doom / Doom 2
5: Doom Eternal
6: Doom 64

[spiral crow]

Interesting ranking, i have doom 2016 at the bottom and TDA at number 1

[foggy jasper]

Top 3 can honestly go any way

All 3 are amazing games I just really like the aesthetics of 2016 and the Horror of 3

2016 gameplay is really enjoyable IMO

[lament grove]

love how random the fps is sometimes, opened the game yesterday was bouncing back and forth between 20 fps and 60 fps each time i opened it, today its 130 fps

[slender night]

https://youtu.be/6sCxReH8Q5Y?t=232

[spiral crow]

Until nightmare

[swift peak]

oh i've listened to the songs

[spiral crow]

[slender night]

The kind of wailing noise in the background, and then a few seconds later when the beat drops, the melody that's played by the guitars. Those are both the same melody, the Slayer's motif

[swift peak]

i just have NOT caught onto any of the motifs, I'm still searching for the "At Dooms Gate" motif in From the Ashes

[foggy jasper]

I've never actually played a doom game on nightmare, I usually do UV or HMP

[slender night]

There is also the OG Cyberdemon theme in Ancestral Beast

[swift peak]

genuinely don't hear it

[slender night]

The Cyberdemon theme?

[swift peak]

the slayers

[spiral crow]

Nightmare is pretty bad not because it's hard, but because you'll die in the most BS ways possible, your deaths will always be from Imps, like the overall difficulty is not balanced on nightmare which was fixed in eternal

[foggy jasper]

Ah ok

[slender night]

I will always believe the BS nature of Nightmare in 2016 was a nice thing

[foggy jasper]

Yeah I don't typically play games on rage mode or nightmare

[slender night]

It calls back to how BS it was in DOOM 3 and Classic DOOM. Eternal making it a standard difficulty was a bit lame

[foggy jasper]

I don't want to rage quit, but I do like a challenge

Trepang2 on Hard mode alone was hell

Cyberdemons in TDA on UV was insane

[hazy pasture]

They love to spam the chaingun even when you're in close range

[foggy jasper]

Those things were so annoying

[half plaza]

It's that "waaahnahnaaaah"

[obsidian shard]

It's so freaking cool

It's been my notification sound since release

[half plaza]

The Dinosaur Heretic made a video about it and then he unlisted it :(

[obsidian shard]

He later disagreed with the statement

Hence why he delisted it

[half plaza]

Guh?! I never heard that

It's still the Slayer's motif nonetheless

[obsidian shard]

Yup, Probs why i like specific songs the most

[half plaza]

The Into The Void motif being incredibly similar to the Doom Eternal motif/The Imp's Song confuses me tho

[obsidian shard]

Also super awesome how the Maykr's, Ahzrak, Sentinel's, The Witch, and Serrat have Motifs as well (Mostly in game for The Witch and Serrat)

[green estuary]

Agreed
Just wish the BS came less from fodder demons and more from what you’d expect to be the real threats

[stuck basalt]

idk why and i know its def not accurate but hugo kinda looks like jack black if he shaved a bit and got a haircut

[green estuary]

Don’t insult the man Hugo like that

[fading bone]

to be fair jack black is a handsome dude

[stuck basalt]

fr

[swift peak]

i think my copy of DOOM TDA may be cursed, I fully deleted the entire game and I still have the performance metrics up (No they're not from the settings, they're off in the settings)

https://imgur.com/a/qwHYWiV here if anyone knows what i did

I DID IT

IT WAS com_ShowFPS WHICH WAS SET TO 2

[green estuary]

what'd you do to fix it

[green estuary]

I actually thought of that, but I had no idea that it had a value that wasn't just 1 or 0 lol

so I figured that wasn't actually it

[swift peak]

neither did i

[wheat sigil]

tda is fun

[green estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1389644177762947115/1485348237933154527/powder-that-makes-you-say-real-plastic-man.png?ex=69c189d8&is=69c03858&hm=b7a0145326470d1eb947fc8b7bc1b17e05c3cb9556ed3b5349180ba130a3f00f

[heady trout]

real

[heady trout]

who took over your account

[slender night]

M2

[wheat sigil]

i've literally always said tda is fun and good😭

[heady trout]

lol I've never heard this before

[wheat sigil]

ya well then you're missing out on my peak opinions :<

[quiet crow]

Question what is the bishop made out of the organic parts

[hearty edge]

holy swarm is so broken it aint even funny

like it starts out kinda ass but after the 2nd upgrade it clears out almost whole groups of heavies

[heady trout]

this is true

[delicate grotto]

Transfiguration I’m pretty sure

It’s a process Maykrs go through

It’s kind of their version of death or something. Don’t entirely remember. Same case for Samur

[noble coral]

what are the odds of they fixing the lore nerd achievment once the expansions launch so I dont have to start a new game just to get the pulverizer entry x

[obsidian shard]

You sure you have every codex?

(Aside from the weapon ones)

[noble coral]

yeah missing pulverizer

only)

or do weapons not count towards it ?

I remember some levels having progress already done when I played them for the first time wich was odd

[obsidian shard]

That's a separate bug ya

So characters and locations are codexs you'll most likely missing, If you want you can you could DM me screenshot of you codex pages

[noble coral]

Sure thank you

[obsidian shard]

Appears your just missing Hell Priests from Harbor of Souls

[frail bloom]

Cuz it doesn't exist

[obsidian shard]

No lying Samir

[frail bloom]

I ain't lying it just doesn't exist

[swift peak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSxjaG5HN9o

[frail bloom]

There's Doom 64's theme tho, that ain't bad

[swift peak]

can soemone make this but for doom tda

[obsidian shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VojuQCckhds

[frail bloom]

Where's At Doom's Gate

I don't hear it here

[obsidian shard]

The convo was about the Slayer motif bruh

And how cat didn't hear it

[frail bloom]

But the guy was talking abt at Doom's Gate

[frail bloom]

.

Literally right here

[swift peak]

thats about from the ashes

NOT battle on the blackened tide

[obsidian shard]

This

[frail bloom]

Oh well ye, his motif exists

It's an original one

[obsidian shard]

The opening of From the Ashes is The Slayers Motif

[frail bloom]

Sort of synthy guitar lead

Lots of reverb

Sinister sounding

[uneven dragon]

it's so accurate because doom fans also hallucinates leitmotifs where there arent any :p

[frail bloom]

Yup yup

I'm guilty of it

[uneven dragon]

it's theorised that the slayer motif is the notes to at dooms gate

i think it might be a bit of a stretch but shrug

[frail bloom]

No one believes that anymore

If Dino doesn't who does

He made the theory

[uneven dragon]

oh did dino discredit that

sigh now i have to edit the leitmotif doc AGAIN

[frail bloom]

Ye

Now if smt doesn't sound like what it references it prob doesn't reference it

To me progression matters as much as notes and key

And that slayers motif is nothing like at doom's gate

[quiet crow]

No like the parasite red things he has on him

[alpine pilot]

where doom

[swift peak]

How do you get rid of the Noise again? Can't seem to find the settings for it

https://imgur.com/a/HyWByrf

[obsidian shard]

Turn off VSR

if you path tracing on

[green estuary]

not VSR, VRS lol

variable rate shading

[harsh egret]

🤓

[green estuary]

but no I don't think he's got PT enabled

[obsidian shard]

Thanks Katsu

@swift peak Pretty much Just @ Katsu for stuff, hes basically the community Tech support lol

[green estuary]

nah I'm not lol
I have no idea where the noise here is coming from

[obsidian shard]

Nah you are, you know so much stuff dawg,

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/mhm-mhmm-sure-thing-sure-doubt-gif-22192499

[swift peak]

I don't

guess thats just a consequence of raytracing, lemme throw that in the pile

[harsh egret]

wut lol

[brave leaf]

I'm ngl
I tried going back to eternal and
Dark ages > eternal

I'm fully committed to that opinion now

[hearty edge]

they're both definitely my favorite and i could go either way

[real crater]

the problem is i go back to eternal after playing dark ages for a while and i play like i've never heard of doom

[brave leaf]

Real

[chilly needle]

Every time I go to TDA or 2016 after eternal I always try to hit dash and get killed

[hearty edge]

same lol

[real crater]

in my humble opinion we should be able to carry 99 extra lives like we can in doom eternal

[hearty edge]

since i've played the dark ages the most i don't get that problem often and readjust myself pretty easily

however going from either eternal or tda back to 2016 is always bad

siege mode is still funny

[real crater]

how

i find 2016 the easiest game to go back to

[hearty edge]

idk

the controls are way too different and i forgor to change them

[real crater]

can you even change the controls in 2016

[hearty edge]

when trying to glory kill i always hit e and that killed me a lot

[hearty edge]

yea i put ssg to mouse4 and gauss to mouse3

double ssg gauss is funny

[chilly needle]

I always play on controller

[hearty edge]

why

[real crater]

i dont think you can change the binds on xbox so 2016 is the only game i have to use the weapon wheel in

[chilly needle]

Its easier for me

[real crater]

well i have to use it in eternal too but not for every weapon

[chilly needle]

I play on nightmare and I need the controller

[hearty edge]

i could never play an fps with controller i'm ngl lie

no pb rocket in eternal = sad

[chilly needle]

Ive been doing it since red faction and Halo back in 01

Eternal is no way I could do mouse and keyboard

[real crater]

you can have weapon binds on controller

just have to sacrifice some mechanics

[hearty edge]

which ones+

[real crater]

for me i sacrifice mission information, crucible, and mod swap so i can have pb, ssg, ballista, and rpg

the left stick defaults to doing nothing so i set heavy cannon to that one

[chilly needle]

You can still pb rocket on controller

[real crater]

pressing the left stick anyway moving it around obviously moves the slayer

[hearty edge]

is mission information the tab or the control

[real crater]

the button you press that brings up mission objective and marker and all that

[hearty edge]

ight yea i never use that

[chilly needle]

Dark ages i just spam shield, ssg, flail or mace, and for bosses the shredder or cycler

[hearty edge]

mod swap and crucible is kinda wild ngl especially crucible but ig it's aight

[green estuary]

mod swap you can do in the menu

[hearty edge]

for bosses i go impaler all the time

[green estuary]

no crucible bind would be annoying for the icon of sin fight though

[hearty edge]

yea i know that

[real crater]

personally i always stick with one mod for each weapon anyway

and ive learned to play with no crucible but for some fights like icon of sin and dark lord i get rid of the rocket launcher temporarily so i can have it

[hearty edge]

fair

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/worried-scared-oh-no-stop-it-fearful-gif-12534009

god eternal must suck so much ass on console

[chilly needle]

I use to use the impaler until I found the pin cushion mod thingy

[real crater]

i really only have rocket launcher binded for lob

[green estuary]

yeah I have beef with how useless eternal made a bunch of the weapon mods

[real crater]

the skill ceiling is much lower than pc but if youve played on controller all your life then it works

👍

[hearty edge]

i didnt know pincushion worked since u kinda can't shield stun them but it does work for superheavies so fine ig

[real crater]

for dark ages i exclusively use ssg

i used to sometimes use the chainshot but a fully upgraded ssg can do everything the chainshot can do and it's more badass

for me there's really no need to use any other weapon unless there's a mission/mastery challenge tied to it

[hearty edge]

i find that the impaler just works great for ahzrak since you're constantly parrying and charging your next shots

and getting headshots in regenerates ur dreadmace so quickly you can almost spam it

so he melts

[real crater]

i need to do a nightmare playthrough of dark ages ultra violence is feeling a little too fair

[hearty edge]

and i also kinda feel the ssg does less damage against bosses generally

[obsidian shard]

Well technically all the guns are equally powerful and can carry you through the whole game it's really about picking which is your favorite

[green estuary]

the ssg in tda is a point-blank or nothing weapon, as the falloff distance is fairly short

[hearty edge]

yep nightmare is the way to go in this game for me

[green estuary]

add to that ahzrak is a pretty skinny hitbox and it ends up not dealing that much damage to him

[hearty edge]

for ahzrak and the witch i think i used the chainshot more

both are my bosses weapons of choice

[swift peak]

That’s crazy ngl

So many weapons are so good

[green estuary]

the chainshot is just so reactive, I don't really fw it

[harsh egret]

now imagine a mod that turns the ssg into the atlan shotgun and makes it shoot powerful ass shots with longer range but slow firerate

[hearty edge]

i use the chainshot as a sort of mid range ssg especially for vagaries since it shreds their armor

[obsidian shard]

Cycler and rocket launcher my beloved

I do notice how Hugo JUST Sticks with the Cycler tho lol

[real crater]

i know that the other weapons are also amazing but if i do not have to play a game like eternal then i will not

i save all my multi-weapon gameplay for doom eternal

[swift peak]

Tbh you’re kinda doing the opposite

[harsh egret]

Maybe theres something new with it in the dlc hmmMMmm

[swift peak]

Doom Eternal has you fire a weapon and immediately swap away, TDA encourages using the weapons with their strengths and weaknesses

[hearty edge]

the rocket launcher will always be my favorite weapon to use against any cyberdemon in any doom game ig

[swift peak]

Using just a single weapon in TDA, can’t ever imagine it. Headshots with the impaler are so satisfying, accelerator is amazing against Mancubus and other targets

Cycler is the best long ranged weapon imo

[hearty edge]

basically the only one besides the shredder

[swift peak]

Combat shotgun is good too, unlike Eternal and 2016 it feels like it can shoot things a good distance away

[hearty edge]

wait the goated launcher exists i forgor

[obsidian shard]

Ye TDA encourages "load outs"

[swift peak]

The skull weapons are really good although one isn’t that strong and one is really OP

Chainshots are extremely effective against armor

And I haven’t used the explosives much but they’re explosive so

[hearty edge]

they're the weapon class i've used the least (like 2 or 3 times)

[green estuary]

the humble rocket launcher

[swift peak]

Using just 1, hell even using only 3 weapon is genuine insanity

Game encourages it better then others

[green estuary]

yeah I can't really imagine just sticking to even a couple weapons because the game isn't actively forcing me not to

because they're all sick

[obsidian shard]

I basically swap "load outs" for what demons I'm facing against

[hearty edge]

same

[swift peak]

Same

[hearty edge]

chainshot for vagaries or armored demons/leaders

ssg for most of em

rockets basically if i want to but mostly aggadons and cyberdemons

[obsidian shard]

Ohh Mancubus? Chainshot/SSG and stun

Vagary? Rocket Launcher and ground fissure

Cyberdemon? Shredder and auto turret

[swift peak]

Shredder for Cyberdemon?

https://tenor.com/view/jon-arbuckle-disgust-jon-arbuckle-disgusting-gif-22501611

[hearty edge]

impaler if i wanna impale (or kill hell knights in a single shot)

[green estuary]

pincushion

[swift peak]

Trruuuueeeeee

[green estuary]

it does pretty solid single target dps while taking care of the surrounding stuff

[hearty edge]

oh the rocket against the vagaries is a good option

[obsidian shard]

Pincushion, so every hell surge causes em to "implode"

[hearty edge]

i just use the chainshot since armor

[obsidian shard]

Grenade launcher is really good against groups and arachnos

[hearty edge]

true

groups of heavies for that matter

the cluster grenades really destroy em

[obsidian shard]

Altho SSG and chainshot are better

[swift peak]

To be as honest as I can, TDA is the first game of NuDoom where one or two weapon isn’t superior over all the others

They’re all pretty balanced except for a few which are underpowered

But they’re early game weapons so

[green estuary]

about the shield bash, I feel like id could have balanced it a bit better
instead of it just staggering most heavies by default, they could've made it so that shield bashing into a faltered enemy would extend the falter duration or something
just so the shield bash into single shot weapon strat wouldn't be quite as braindead

[twilit stone]

which ones are underpowered

[hearty edge]

i have found that for the later game dreadmace glory strike dreadmace execution destroys cyberdemons in no time

[swift peak]

Shredder and accelerator, but I found accelerator useful

[green estuary]

accelerator has actually the highest raw dps of any gun in most scenarios

[twilit stone]

I love the accelerator, fav weapon alongside the Ravager

[hearty edge]

accelerator has like the highest fps

[green estuary]

and the shredder is easily your best weapon until you get the ssg

[twilit stone]

pincushion my beloved

[hearty edge]

not the impaler?

[green estuary]

seriously, ricochet/pincushion is the single best upgrade in the early game

[obsidian shard]

Grenade launcher def be lacking

Pulverizer I used to agree with but it's melee gives charge is so good, it's speed boosting auto shotgun

Shredder is good because of pincushion

[twilit stone]

impaler's only really useful for bosses to me

Ahzrak more specifically

[obsidian shard]

Accelerator EATS Komodos for breakfast

[green estuary]

not until you get it upgraded a couple times
at which point, yeah it becomes better, but as far as early game weapons go, the shredder is it

[hearty edge]

yep

seeing them disintegrate on my first playtrough in a couple of seconds was satisfying asl

[green estuary]

any target that doesn't move around a lot is impaler food

[hearty edge]

then on consequent playtroughs i also used it against the vagary champion for similar results

[green estuary]

a single salvage-charged headshot plus another regular one staggers a manc

just absurd damage

[hearty edge]

ahem, mancubi, ahem

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/wat-gif-12067866563295373623

[hearty edge]

and ya know

a headshot kills a hell knight outright

althought it is kinda hard to get but not so much due to the aim assist

[swift peak]

I have it off and have had no issue headshotting them

[hearty edge]

it's like built in

or something idk

[twilit stone]

is it??

thats aids

[hearty edge]

but the headshot hitbox is big

[green estuary]

projectiles have enemy magnetism, some more than others

even if you turn off controller aim assist

[hearty edge]

that makes sense

[obsidian shard]

[gusty seal]

[green estuary]

two main components, targetAdhesion and targetFriction
adhesion causes bullets to track towards the target, and friction causes your aim to kinda stick to targets within a certain radius once you've hit it (or at least that's what I've observed)
there's also this thing called bulletMagnetismTiers, but ironically this doesn't seem to be related to aim assist--rather, it's responsible for the delimbing mechanic, since it makes shots that are fired towards a certain region of an enemy magnetize towards an arm, for example
which is why if you shoot the side of a mancubus, his arm gets ripped off, same with a hell knight, imp stalker, etc
or even if you target a cyberdemon's gun arm or a pinky's rider
pretty neat

[warm ibex]

that actually is pretty cool

[green estuary]

yeah it's not as on-the-nose as eternal's whole weakpoint destruction system but it feels more organic tbh

a product of tech advances ig

[warm ibex]

I was talking about that with allstin earlier. a lot of things in TDA are just more natural versions of things from Eternal

which is awesome imo, although some folks definitely don't like that you no longer have to really "earn" those aspects

[hearty edge]

ah yes, SF33rLA0_400x400

[obsidian shard]

Indeed

[gusty seal]

Imma check out that weakpoint stuff more now

[obsidian shard]

Hell yeah, tell em I say Hi
-# you don't have to if you don't want to

[green estuary]

yeah honestly I'm glad for a break from the whole "use hitscan weapon to break weak points" type deal

it's a cool mechanic but I'd rather it stick to one game in the franchise

[gusty seal]

Hi all. Long time no see haha Did u miss me? lol

[green estuary]

wassup man
how's it been

[obsidian shard]

Whats up Scooby,
Where you been?

[gusty seal]

I was playing a mmo for a lil but it just didnt have enoough rip and tearing how have you all been?

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/sometimes-maybe-good-sometimes-maybe-bad-sometimes-maybe-shit-not-good-feeling-shit-gif-16938525

[gusty seal]

Have I missed any major awesome updates over the last 2 months or so?

[green estuary]

nope

[obsidian shard]

None, just DLC info

[hearty edge]

the archvile is coming back idk if that's major or awesome

[warm ibex]

I'd hope for most major new features to stay in their respective games

if hugo TRULY knows ball, the shield saw will be destroyed at the end of the TDA dlc narrative

or sometime off screen between the dlc and next medieval game (which would still be mentioned somewhere)

[prime folio]

Which rocket launcher upgrade do y'all prefer using?

[obsidian shard]

Both

Altho I'll say Cooked

[prime folio]

Lol same, I really can't decide which one feels better, the mini BFG shot is nice but then the blood rockets feel like a decent quality of life upgrade

[obsidian shard]

Real

Also wsp Horde

[warm ibex]

Cooked delivers such crazy raw direct damage that I rarely ever touch Sacrifice. Especially since imo the grenade launcher is the better option for splash/area damage

[obsidian shard]

1 shot Mancubus, yes please

[warm ibex]

feels crazy to use

[prime folio]

Fair tbh

[obsidian shard]

But also fair, It's BUSTED against Vagarys

[prime folio]

Yeah, all they really do is throw projectiles at ya

[split gate]

Or maybe the Slayer threw it so hard while fighting that it never came back

[warm ibex]

I like that idea lol

the final boss of the DLC is a large gap with a flesh node on the other side, which he only encounters after the throwing the shield out of recall range

[swift peak]

I got a really good slow-mo with Kaibz mod

EaseIn: 0.01
SlowMo Duration: 0.4
EaseOut: 1.5
TimeScale: 0.01

stop-action that fades back into normal time whenever you parry

only issue is that TDA doesn't seem to slow down the frame you parry

[hearty edge]

i do like sacrifice for cyberdemons since they don't have hell surge projectiles and sacrifice makes you get more health from cannibalism but most of the time cooked rockets are devastating

[hearty edge]

yea i do not want a shield on the next game

some sort of melee could stay

[obsidian shard]

Gotta make every game different and unique

[warm ibex]

since the TDA dlc will take this specific formula to the maximum, I wouldn't mind if they didn't bring melee over either

[harsh egret]

time for the next doom game to have no weapons, just all melee

[obsidian shard]

It's all cutscenes

"Sit and Watch"

[warm ibex]

what I meant to say was that I want the next game to have no weapons, just all melee

[harsh egret]

LOL

[hearty edge]

the next game will have a jetpack so the catchphrase will be fight or flight trust

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/writing-fire-absolute-cinema-gif-15085453417287561698

[obsidian shard]

"Freeze and Frame"

[hearty edge]

so the stun rune

[spiral crow]

[obsidian shard]

Nah make it a Turn Based RPG

[spiral crow]

Finished 2016 today and my god the game crashed 3 times on me

[hearty edge]

it's a pacifist game
"live and let live"

[obsidian shard]

DOOM Dating Sim

[hearty edge]

would you date demons or other sentinels

i just thought of how an imp baddie would look like and i want to take that image away

[swift peak]

the secret (canon) ending is the slayer novik hayden threesome

[prime folio]

Doomguy + Valen + Novik love triangle when

[spiral crow]

Commander Thira is all that needs to be said here

[obsidian shard]

I regret brining this up now

[harsh egret]

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/bleak-it's-bleak-shaking-head-its-bleak-black-and-white-gif-9592734580409210082

[warm ibex]

When the 2029 Microsoft Gaming summer showcase opens with hugo martin saying "We heard your complaints over the lack of glory kills, quick swapping and air mobility in our last title, so this game will take place entirely in zero gravity environments with guns that fire glory kills instead of bullets. Also, every weapon is glued to our new ultimate "merry-go-round" gun that continuously swaps weapons automatically once per second regardless of what the player actually wants"

https://tenor.com/view/doom-the-dark-ages-doomguy-doom-slayer-absolute-cinema-gif-11606677432043572262

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/its-peak-old-man-shaking-head-gif-3938163323164042530

[swift peak]

that last part about the guns is just how eternal is already

no fixes needed

[hearty edge]

would the weapons fire off dazed demons or would they work as the one hit stagger cheat code

[obsidian shard]

We are calling it "DOOM Forever 2"

[hearty edge]

electric doomaloo

[obsidian shard]

You also gotta make the game be like Unreclaimed Earth levels of hard

[hearty edge]

the whole game is a 10 hour level with no checkpoints

[warm ibex]

you pull the trigger and the demon in front of you is instantly glory killed. it has the same "no target" problems as Eternal's chainsaw

[hearty edge]

fire

[obsidian shard]

[spiral crow]

Imagine if this is actually the new game

[swift peak]

we're gonna also inject you with twelve ounces of dopamine every time you kill an enemy

we do this by scrolling through seven tiktoks really quickly

that way you'll get the most fun out of your Forever DOOM

[obsidian shard]

Also EVERYONE is the Composer

[spiral crow]

My soundtrack will be called Daisy

[warm ibex]

Thursday, July 18th, 2030. that's all I'm saying

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-dexter-meme-dexter-morgan-dexter-shrug-gif-17573758742145132133

[hearty edge]

the soundtrack rapidly changes from mick to andrew to FM to bobby prince depending on which weapon is currently in your hand

[obsidian shard]

THIS is what We need

and the new composer BOB

[swift peak]

Also to appease the Mick Gordon fans, WE EXECUTED FINISHING MOVE AND KIDNAPPED MICK TO PRODUCE MUSIC FOR DOOM FOREVER 2

[spiral crow]

Bro if you predict this, i'll be convinced you played TAG 3

[split gate]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-from-peak-fiction-dies-from-peak-fiction-gif-8241362855452869649

[hearty edge]

yes the bobby prince sections will be 1993 levels of muffled with midi audio

[swift peak]

no sorry the mixing on youtube will still suck

[warm ibex]

I didn't mean for this to turn into a whole thing lol. might wanna reel it back into tda chat

[swift peak]

we can't afford any better mixing

[hearty edge]

right

[swift peak]

yeah you're right lets take this to #doom-forever-2

[hearty edge]

so guys whats yall's favorite song of the soundtrack

[spiral crow]

[swift peak]

Unholy Siege but its youtube mix is kind of bad. Best youtube mix goes to Infernal Chasm

Will I be killed if I say that Unchained Predator is kind of overrated

[warm ibex]

Infernal Chasm, the orchestral elements in the buildup are damn near unmatched

[hearty edge]

infernal chasm is also my favorite

no matter in game or youtube

[spiral crow]

Battle on the Blackened Tide, that song just makes you feel like a monster truck

[hearty edge]

valid but i still love it

i also like what lies below

even if the old one boss battle is easy af

[swift peak]

honestly micks music is maybe better but Finishing Moves music makes you feel more powerful imo

i killed chat with such a dogshit opinion

[spiral crow]

[hearty edge]

https://tenor.com/view/person-below-me-gets-chocolate-cake-person-below-me-gets-chocolate-cake-gif-5547626451795509463

[swift peak]

:D

[spiral crow]

Me

[hearty edge]

check ur mailbox in 2 to 3 business days if i dont forget

[spiral crow]

share

[swift peak]

i ate it all

okay bacvk on topic

[hearty edge]

https://tenor.com/view/new-meme-2-two-ii-loloshuava-gif-4685248552284301408

[spiral crow]

[warm ibex]

Battle on the Blackened Tide is a slightly underrated banger. I think Harbor of Souls has the second best ambient music in the franchise

[hearty edge]

alright so when do yall think the 2nd steel ball run episode is releasing

[spiral crow]

I'm gunna get flamed but i don't like JJBA

I guess now i killed chat with that hot take

[split gate]

It’s only an anime in the end, no big deal

[warm ibex]

definitely not the place to chat about anime 😅

[spiral crow]

Don't worry daisy is in it

[split gate]

I think you’d want to move to general to discuss this bro

[hearty edge]

yea ik

[obsidian shard]

Typically Infernal Chasm, But Gamerips still have me choosing

[obsidian shard]

HOT TAKE

[warm ibex]

what's hot about it 🤔

[obsidian shard]

Idk, I Dont usually think of the Ambiance

IMO Unyielding and The Prince is the Best Ambiance from TDA

Also, 2016's ambiance exists soooo

[hearty edge]

blood swamps ambiance solos

[obsidian shard]

The Holt:

Music good

[last geyser]

Abyssal forest ambience is so eerie

[spiral crow]

Urdak:
Music Very Good

[warm ibex]

I think Exultia's ambience is the best in the franchise, unmatched by no other track/level. Harbor of Souls has some damn good ambience though

which is why I'd place it second

[twilit stone]

Yeah but 2016 has the Argent Tower ambience soooo

[spiral crow]

Not really a fan of Exultia's Ambience, Mars core is probably my fav ambience

[obsidian shard]

Its just a whole refrence lol, but i cant disagree

[last geyser]

World spear ambience is underrated

[obsidian shard]

Meathook and Taras Nabad (The Ambiance) is just BANGING

[harsh egret]

its my favorite level when it comes to immersion, they really nailed the ambience both sound design and soundtrack wise, pursuit of demons is goated

[obsidian shard]

REAL, Pursuit of Demons is really underrated too

[warm ibex]

honestly can't say that it's in my top five 😅

[swift peak]

i never really cared for Exultias, or any of Eternals ambience

[spiral crow]

Siege part 1 and 2's ambience honestly makes my head wanna expload

[twilit stone]

it's so catchy thooooo

[swift peak]

TDAs only game that has an ambience I actively care for

[obsidian shard]

Unyielding with the Tagelharpa is unf

[warm ibex]

that is very true, and it leads into the heavier music very well

[obsidian shard]

I will one day own the 2016 4LP when its not a million bucks

(I Have the 2lp tho)

[warm ibex]

I have the 2LP

[spiral crow]

My favorite ambience in TDA is the entire cosmic realm

[warm ibex]

a great choice

[obsidian shard]

FUCKKKK, Honestly that might be top 5

[twilit stone]

i dont like a lot of TDA's ambient scores, the game just never feels like it shuts up

[obsidian shard]

(Cosmic Sea)

[twilit stone]

like they're all so loud, no real quiet moments and the loops are too obvious a lot of the time

[obsidian shard]

Theirs

• Ambient
• Pre-combat (ambiance with more)
• Light Combat
• Heavy Combat

[spiral crow]

My favorite location aside from cosmic realm would be the holy city of Aratum

That floating city is just so freaking cool to look at, it takes me back to star wars all over again whenever i play through it

[twilit stone]

but like often times I fend when I turn off the music, the ambient sounds actually capture the feeling of the location better. Like Cosmic Realm has so many creepy sounds that is just drowned out by the ambience

Hell has this problem as well

[warm ibex]

honestly the Hell Ship observation decks from Holy City are some of my favorite interiors in the entire game, SUPER underrated imo

Especially love the control panel prop design https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892238793174818848/1485462299736277123/william-bao-william-bao-dtda-helltech-01-williambao.png?ex=69c1f412&is=69c0a292&hm=cb19311a094c58ce63b1d7955d09369e9a362c8c5fe4d5a56a03afc2d8cfcf4d

[spiral crow]

One of the problems i find about hell in doom, is Eternal, we see a tower at a distence, we visit it late game, dark ages we see tower again, we head to that very same tower again late game

[obsidian shard]

The Engines are super rad too

[spiral crow]

Like hell is this massive place that has so much to offer, that's why i'm so excited to visit a snow biome

[last geyser]

You would hate eternals ambience then

[harsh egret]

it's giving Scorn

[warm ibex]

yesss they're fuckin awesome. I love the organic hell tech stuff

[warm ibex]

fr, it kicks ass

[twilit stone]

yeah I found Hell in TDA quite bland honestly, not as much variety in colour compared to the last two games, or even the classics

[twilit stone]

Eternal has the best ambient scores lol

[harsh egret]

ik that game has some pretty ass gameplay but the visuals are pretty sick

[spiral crow]

Like blood swamp and immora are so different from your typical hell location and i really hope they explore more biomes in the DLC like they are with the snow biome

[last geyser]

Tue

Im bored of the orange look of hell

[harsh egret]

lasagne or doom level ahh

[obsidian shard]

TBF TDA Hell looks VERY Similar to 2016 Hell

[spiral crow]

When i hear "ahh"

[warm ibex]

I do really like that forsaken plains had a mini blood swamp on the right side

diversity within a level is nice

[harsh egret]

siege 1 feels like its 3 diff biomes or smth cuz of the way the colors change when u go to different parts of that map lol

[spiral crow]

Yeah it goes from swamp to rocky to grassy? I guess?

[twilit stone]

2016's got this more desolate feeling to it though, it doesn't have giant demonic temples in the background and later on it takes place in more dungeon/catacomb like areas. And as much as people give shit to all the yellow color of it, it does give it this toxic-esc vibe. Like just being there would make you choke to death

[warm ibex]

that's really cool too. Honestly certain areas of Siege 1 has a sort of trench type thing going on and I think that was super underexplored

[harsh egret]

ye that level is so big but i love the variety in visuals and places, u go underground, in swampy areas, grassy areas, etc

[spiral crow]

Okay you know what location i would like to revisit in TDA's dlc? Kadingir Sanctum

[twilit stone]

yes plssss

[fleet spruce]

ah yes, the Blood Keep

[twilit stone]

I also want to see this man "crush the obsidian pillars of the Blood Temples" at some point

[spiral crow]

Yeah because i remember it connects the Umbral Plains to the Great Steppe

[twilit stone]

also it just sounds metal af lol

[spiral crow]

Would be so sick revisiting that location in TDA's engine

[twilit stone]

fr

[green estuary]

elite ball knowledge

best level in 2016

maybe my favorite level in the modern trilogy tbh
toss up between it and resurrection/harbor of souls

[spiral crow]

I love that eclipse in resurrection, that level has my 3rd favorite skybox

[green estuary]

the whole color palette in that level is very pleasing to me for whatever reason

the sky is very red and ominous

[spiral crow]

For me it's gotta be Temple of Lomarith i just love the purple skybox with the eye at the distence you see

[sleek topaz]

Folks, I destroyed both arms of a Mucubus and it STOPPED attacking me!

BUG or Feature? If the latter, it makes me lose RESPECT for the Mancubus! It should have keep trying to attack me with his Belly or even Biting me.

[real crater]

literally unplayable

wait until you hear that the hell knight also stops attacking when it loses both arms

[sleek topaz]

Well, that is disppointing, I wonder if this was an oversight or a intended way to please "noob" playtesters...

[real crater]

id hire this man now

[green estuary]

it's intended

[sleek topaz]

oh

[green estuary]

but it doesn't have anything to do with catering to "noobs"

if you've removed both of a manc's arms then they're 99% dead anyways

[gusty seal]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-pickle-arm-give-me-gif-21101853

[obsidian shard]

Its Intended, and if you blew both its arms off it should be dead, Not a "Noob" issue

[gusty seal]

what if the armless demon had a new method of attacking ? like if a mancubus is bleeding bad, give it acid vomit as a last resort, like that one mk character who cud puke on u lol
https://tenor.com/view/they-had-us-in-the-first-half-not-gonna-lie-no-arms-archer-handshake-fail-gif-25252859

[green estuary]

it would admittedly be funny if they could headbutt you for some insignificant amount of damage

like the basic punch in eternal, make it deal exactly 1 damage or something

[mystic barn]

The ambient music system isn’t like 2016 where there’s loops (seriously, the ambient tracks just loop over and over with no variation). TDA is much more complex than that. The stems include a bed layer and then any number of effects that can play at random over the top. However, I do agree that silence is sometimes preferable, especially when setting a tone. When the game first came out, my music bugged out during Harbor of Souls, and I thought it was a deliberate choice to punctuate Doomguy’s apparent death. To me, that’s where the score of TDA can fail. The ambient music in game is just a low impact variation on the main combat theme, whereas that was scarcely the case in 2016 and only partially the case in Eternal. The ambience in those games made room for the environment to tell its own auditory story (particularly in the 2016 Hell levels where Residual, Incantation, and Death & Exhale play)

[fading bone]

i really like that. after playing eternal and TDA and going into 2016 it was really off putting having so much silence in the levels. i like having the constant music

[twilit stone]

i think it also doesnt help me with the fact that the ambient tracks play across mulitple levels at a time. In 2016 and Eternal they'd change every level and then return after a few levels past, whereas in TDA they usually play back to back, and with how much longer both the game and certain levels are, it just gets tiring. Especially in the Cosmic Realm, I was so sick of the ambience for the Cosmic Realm by the time it was over, it just doesn't stop

[twilit stone]

it just gets grating for me, I really enjoy the silence in these games when it's there. It makes the louder moments all the more impactful, having it constantly have noise just gets tiring

[obsidian shard]

Almost All the Levels were split into two, so it being back to back is on account due to that

Cosmic realm I Can agree with since its 4 levels of it, but its really interesting, weird and cool so I don't mind it!

[mystic barn]

That’s fair. There is a reason why the Into the Void ambience and light combat repeats and there is apparently no What Lies Below equivalent (rhymes with brunch). Do keep in mind though that many of the levels were split into two-parters after the fact when realising that playing through these massive levels in one sitting can become exhausting

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/brunch-chappelle-prince-purple-rain-gif-14575995700634689048

[nocturne imp]

I like Doom the Dark Ages

[obsidian shard]

yes

[sleek topaz]

I literally found out now. He is staring at me face up close and doing Nothing, haha!

[sleek topaz]

There is a Zed from Killing Floor 3 that is specialized to do just that, the Bile... But Mancubus, and Hell Knight too, should do any physical attacks with their heads and legs, at least.

[sleek topaz]

I shoot away its right leg, then it died.

[sleek topaz]

Silence really helped immersion in DOOM.
I think the very first trailer from E3 2015 showed very well how the silence was good for the immersion. https://youtu.be/vgxa8f9ehcI?si=vtll1CijdGjZy1a7&t=155

[fading bone]

thats fine. but coming from playing eternal and TDA first i got used to the ambient music constantly being there so thats what kinda made the game feel more comfortable and doom to me

[real crater]

now that yall are talking about silence i think i might actually like to try a no music playthrough

[obsidian shard]

Like classic DOOM always having Music playing

[real crater]

soundtrack is great of course but i think it would be interesting to play it how the doomslayer hears it

unless the music just come from bluetooth headphones in his helmet or something

[sleek topaz]

That was usual in older games, until 2000s. I would have loved System Shock 2 to have silence in some moments.

I like what Half-Life games, and F.E.A.R. did back then. Music only played in certain sections, making them all more impactful. But they were exceptions.

[twilit stone]

sigh

[twilit stone]

classic doom levels were a lot shorter tho, and had plenty of quiet moments. On top of that it wasnt constant metal, it was very groovy and jazzy

[swift peak]

Tbf the music probably does not exist in universe

[fading bone]

i like to think it does

[green estuary]

"you're listening to one oh six point five sentinel FM radio"

[split gate]

One of the hardest reveals ever

[ancient atlas]

doom asmr

[obsidian shard]

Their is a Classic DOOM Mod for that

[ancient atlas]

btw replaying doom 2016

it's a really nice touch to make weapons as secrets in levels that are not supposed to give it to you

tho the map is stupidly meh

[gusty seal]

They should like get in the way and headbut too lol. i mean lost souls are just floating heads and look at their dedication to fighting haha

[ancient atlas]

i think hugo understood how hard people were waiting for new DOOM game and did it for much more effect on crowd

[twilit stone]

i miss this

[sleek quail]

Hello there. It took me some time but finally bought The Dark Ages. Having fun being Captain America bashing everything.

[fading bone]

very based

[ancient atlas]

As example gameplay trailer of new Virtua Fighter is way cooler than Tekken 8 was

Pure combat gameplay

No fuckass visual effects and good animations with much more realistic impact from punches and kicks

[uneven dragon]

would be cool having a doom game like that again but just wouldn't fit the new doom gameplay loop

more ambient stuff would be great though

[mystic barn]

It would be kind of weird for Doomguy to write a character theme not only for himself, but the characters he’s fighting too

[fleet spruce]

Doom guy is just a man of many talents you see

[random sand]

He does have guitars suggesting he plays guitar. Sure he writes songs to rip and tear to

[ancient atlas]

finally beat my own preset lol

[ancient atlas]

tho i still need to polish it

because final round is easier than 3rd

or just swap em

[low hearth]

Lowkirk do I get a ps5 to run dark ages eventually

I have a mid range pc that can't do raytracing

[lapis oak]

Hola, soy nuevo aquí, ¿de qué se trata este servidor?

[neon grail]

My laptop can't run doom dark ages without lagging🤞😭

I'm up to chapter 14

[solar cairn]

New week, new stream, I hope

[random sand]

Wonder if they'll even reveal anything new about the dlc this time. What's even left to reveal

[spiral crow]

More daisy

[random sand]

Well can't complain about that

Personally i hope for a cutscene with doom slayer visiting Daisy's grave but that might be too much wishful thinking

[spiral crow]

But on a real note, idk, maybe a new demon

[random sand]

Or, hear me out huffs copium dlc release date

[spiral crow]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-akakichi-no-eleven-gif-6695986364367126664

Bro that ain't happening

[random sand]

Let a man dream bruh😭

[spiral crow]

[random sand]

Please Hugo i need this🙏

[rose jay]

Zugo

[harsh egret]

https://x.com/Xbox/status/2036067066692964421

Xbox (@Xbox)

We’ll bring the game announcements. You bring the snacks? 🍿

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X · Mar 23, 2026, 1:06 PM

what if....

[foggy jasper]

Doubt it

Id's technically first party

[random sand]

Is it possible? Probably not. BUT MAYBE

[harsh egret]

ye im probably delusional

[mystic barn]

Is there meant to be a stream this week?