the-dark-ages

[split gate]

I respect anyone who likes one over the other, no point in hating

[twilit stone]

I do think this whole "we gotta make every DOOM game SUPER different everytime" thing could backfire though if they aren't careful. Like at some point they'll make a game too different that it wouldn't feel like DOOM anymore, such as the cancelled DOOM 4

[vale minnow]

It sucks that no one can unite but oh well you can't satisfy everyone even if you showed them something new

[obsidian shard]

DOOM 3 does Exist...

[split gate]

I think the closest the fanbase united for a modern Doom game was 2016

[twilit stone]

DOOM 3 is closer to Classic DOOM than most people realize

[vale minnow]

Isn't it a remake

[split gate]

True, I’m wondering how they would change the formula if they’re sticking with that mindset for the next game

[obsidian shard]

True, but also not, depends how you look at

[twilit stone]

I think they should stick with where they are now in terms of the setting if they're gonna explore this Night Sentinel era further with the next one. Like you can't just slap a random aesthetic onto one of these games and still call it DOOM. TDA got away with this medieval style because ancient humans going to war with Hell has been teased since DOOM 3 and further expanded with 2016 and Eternal

[split gate]

True true, Hugo mentioned they’re continuing with that I remember, I was thinking of gameplay wise

[twilit stone]

I'm hoping for less janky melee combat in the next one, plus just more melee weapons in general. That's really my main critique with TDA's gameplay is that the melee just feels really janky at times. I would also like to see more glory kills return for heavy enemies at least

[random sand]

indeed

[random sand]

eternal is exactly that. a game that is super different and doesn't even feel like doom. yet eternal is the doom game that is most beloved out of all of them

[twilit stone]

all things considered I don't think Eternal was THAT different from 2016. All Eternal did was just build upon 2016's foundation in terms of weapons, abilities and demon roster, and give the game a more colorful artstyle. TDA is much more noticeably different from 2016 and Eternal in almost every aspect

[random sand]

TDA is more different than 2016 and Eternal, but it is out of all modern Doom titles the game that is the most like the classic games in terms of how it plays

[twilit stone]

Yes and no. It is more grounded, and you can stick mostly to one gun. But it still has the arena encounter design, and the expanded melee system and shield are completely new concepts

[random sand]

ofc it has new mechanics that make it stand out on its own and make it a modern Doom title, but it also has those classic Doom elements with the whole grounded combat with dodging slow projectiles. not to mention the classic face hud returning

[split gate]

I’d like to also point out that the classic Dooms heavily emphasised horizontal grounded movement and weaving projectiles. These were two of the most common things you did back then. TDA embraced these things which is why I also believe it to be the instalment that is more in line with the classics

[regal vault]

TDA is so fucking disapointing it's the only game i did not recommended
Ngl it felt like a game made by a B Team at ID or something
I guess im gonna play Doom Eternal until their next game

https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198957454578/recommended/3017860?snr=1_5_9__402

LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO

[split gate]

Glad to see TDA isn’t really seen as a bad game, just a divisive one depending on what you like the most

Like people shat on Eternal because it wasn’t 2016. The cycle repeats

[regal vault]

It's not a bad game but there is questionable game design decisions and u can't deny the fact that after Eternall this game feels dull idk

[random sand]

i very well can. what part of the game design was "questionable" exactly?

[split gate]

It’s not a fact to say it’s a dull game, that’s entirely your perspective. I had a blast with it

[random sand]

i swear if you say "it's not eternal 2" i'mma lose it

[regal vault]

Redundance of weapons, the boring dragonss sectioons with the dodge atttack gameplay wich is so ireppetitive it became boring aafter 3 times (same with the mech), showing secretss on tthe map, not having more intricate levels to balance the simplicity of the core gameplay, i could just go on and on

[regal vault]

Nah

[regal vault]

If only i could have enjoyed the game like you

[split gate]

An actual solid critique, which I also have as well

[regal vault]

I'm actually so mad lol

[split gate]

At least your reasonable lol

[regal vault]

Hope the DLC will change my mind

still got hope

[random sand]

Fair critiques, but this really just sounds like no joy no whimsey to me tbh😭

[split gate]

DLC sounds like they’re elevating it while still sticking to their guns of what they wanted for TDA which is good

Apparently the skill ceiling will be higher, let’s goo

Also, you live by your name lol

[random sand]

At least it isn't "it's not doom eternal 2" and "music bad because no mick"

[regal vault]

My dream would be a big level like a castle, where you start at the entrence then you go further and further in it
When i saw the trailer i was hoping a metroidvania like doom game, it would have been sick as hell ngl

[split gate]

I also thought the dragon sections were meh as well, yeah I get they were pace breakers but it wasn’t really a good one for me

[split gate]

Hugo mentioned that the DLC will have metroidvania like elements

[regal vault]

Imagine just having a giant casstle with secrets, ultra vviolent setting, some backtracking,...

[regal vault]

WE ARE SO BACK

[split gate]

Back tracking, accessing areas you can only access in later levels…

[regal vault]

Next game should be Quake The Eternal Ages or Something

[split gate]

Doom the Darker Ages

[split gate]

Hoping for a castle level as well, given the setting

The DLC sounds like a lot more than the base game, they’re cooking something a lot bigger than what we thought

[regal vault]

Hype is rising

Please ID

I want to bellieve

[split gate]

I need this, our TDA is kind of DLCless

[random sand]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-meme-trying-not-to-laugh-laugh-homeless-gif-9458928528704746136

Id rn

[fleet spruce]

Playing Call of the Void Quake 2 mod , wake me up when new bit of DLC info drops...

[split gate]

Hugo looking at our theories knowing they’re all wrong

[random sand]

Shouldn't be long now. Atp we'll have the whole dlc written out for us

[random sand]

Yuuup

[split gate]

Bro probably has the DLC playing in another computer next to his during streams lol

[random sand]

Lucky bastard

[split gate]

“Yeah” looks at the other monitor “I’ll give them this as the word of the day.”

[random sand]

Share with the class Hugo. C'mon man

We wanna play it too :(

[twilit stone]

everything i've heard about the DLC seems to be the actual game I wanted out of the basegame ngl

[split gate]

Same here, I also think it’s a culmination of the feedback they’ve gotten too

Like the DLCs for Eternal were different compared to the campaign

[twilit stone]

(And also better)

[round ermine]

Yo guys

[split gate]

I wanna experience that same feeling I had when I played Blood Swamps for the first time, hopefully the TDA DLC gives it

[round ermine]

I upgraded my ps4 eternal disk to a ps5 disk, how do i transfer my data from the ps4 game

[split gate]

Oh I had this issue, I had trouble with this, I actually wasn’t able to unfortunately

Idk if they fixed it

[round ermine]

Oof

[split gate]

Yeah my trophies and saves did not transfer, I was mad asl

[random sand]

Don't think you can

[round ermine]

How different even is the ps5 game to the ps4 game?

[split gate]

Virtually Identical, just with the advantages you’d expect from the PS5

I’m not sure why it’s even an issue

[random sand]

Well it's the fact that it being labelled as "ps5 version" makes it different. It has better graphics and load times i suppose. But the label is what matters i think

[round ermine]

Ouf

[split gate]

If you’re a trophy hunter, prepare to do the multiplayer trophies again lol, I couldn’t be bothered

[random sand]

I just ain't doing those. I'm fine with not platting eternal. I'll plat TDA when that comes to ps+. I ain't playing that fuckass multiplayer😭

[split gate]

I did it once for the PS4, I got all the single player trophies again for the PS5 but never again the multiplayer haha

Also not doing UN again either,

[random sand]

Either the multiplayer takes 20 minutes to find a game or you do find a game and it's against someone who no-lifes the multiplayer (for some reason). It's a shit time either way. I'm good

[split gate]

Thank goodness for no multiplayer in TDA

[random sand]

Honestly that was a very good descision

Let them focus on the important things. Let them make the campaign twice as big

[split gate]

If the entire team is focusing on delivering a peak single player experience and not on multiplayer and the cosmetic packs, we’re in for a ride

[random sand]

We sure are. And if the DLC is as good as they say it is, we'll be eating good real soon

The second i see that trailer i'm locked in. I'm here

[twilit stone]

they need to release a trailer at this point at least, like this thing is still coming out this year right? odd there isn't a trailer yet

[random sand]

My guess is it'll release around late this year so a trailer will probably be shown around summertime

[swift forge]

Well he's not making it in ever so ig modders have to give the temu version

[weak shale]

Hey!

[swift forge]

Ahh yess, another dream to smash and tear once again (the doom way)

[outer hawk]

Didn't hugo say it was coming out this week or was he being sarcastic😬

[twilit stone]

who knows with that guy

[outer hawk]

I guess we just have to wait

Its the best thing to do

[harsh egret]

Im not fueling your delusions bud

[warm ibex]

alright man

[modern fiber]

aanyone got all the skins on doom

[harsh egret]

like sure, it would be a cool theory tbh but i just really dont think he teased anything about time travel, that's it 😅

[frail bloom]

Funny coming from you

Funny

So what does Master Arena's mean to y'all

And why is he talking abt time travel, was the dev menu leak real after all?

[hazy pasture]

That's likely a joke

[harsh egret]

i think theres a big difference between "u might be onto something" and "only the first word is real"

[frail bloom]

Nah you're just coping bud

[frail bloom]

What did he say

I was kinda preoccupied so didn't hear it clearly

[hazy pasture]

Flux Capacitor

[frail bloom]

?

[hazy pasture]

It's used in time travel

[frail bloom]

Soo

[hazy pasture]

But then he said that Flux Capacitor isn't the DLC nugget

[frail bloom]

Oh well

[hazy pasture]

Only Master Arena is

[frail bloom]

What does Master Arena mean then

Master levels??

[warm ibex]

assumed to be the slayer gate replacement

[frail bloom]

Hm

Ok a little redundant but atleast we have a name now ig

Master Arenas

Makes sense

Listen I ain't getting between the beef

[harsh egret]

i was gonna clarify but no i am not just fucking with u just because lol

[frail bloom]

I just wanted to know what Hugo said

[hazy pasture]

Let's take Hugo's word and move on

We'll come to know soon enough

[harsh egret]

this guy

[frail bloom]

Lmao

[hazy pasture]

Welp

Anyways

[frail bloom]

Master Arenas huh

Idk I liked "Slayer gate" more

More specific

Or not specific

Just sounds cooler

[harsh egret]

tbf i dont see the logic in the gates being named after the Slayer

but then again many things dont make sense

[frail bloom]

It rolls off the tongue

It just sounds cool

[outer hawk]

I thought the master arenas were going to be like the master levels from eternal

[frail bloom]

Master Arenas sounds like a placeholder name

Kinda eh on it

[harsh egret]

i thought it was supposed to be a dlc hint, and idk about calling levels "arenas" now

[outer hawk]

Fair point

[harsh egret]

also by this point if master campaign isnt a thing then i think they are cancelled lol

cuz how do 10 months pass by with not one master level

[frail bloom]

Bc dey be working on dat dlc

[harsh egret]

:I

[frail bloom]

Dey said that all updates are slowed down

Which can include master levels

[wide siren]

it's all fun and games until you have to fight nine-ball in a sentinel atlan

i'm going with my armored core master of arena -theory

[hazy pasture]

Armored Core mentioned

[frail bloom]

They haven't said anything abt master levels since August right?

Lmao

[harsh egret]

nope

[frail bloom]

Y'know maybe we overhyped it a little we should see if they're doing it at all

[harsh egret]

hugo confirmed "something fun with master levels is on the way" like 2 weeks after the game released

so they been working on them since the start lol

[frail bloom]

Boiii on tuh way chuga chug

10 months boi

[harsh egret]

(plus he didnt just say master levels, he said something fun to do with master levels)

[twilit stone]

doom

[spiral sable]

What about the large DLC update that was purchased with the Gold Edition?

[frosty roost]

dlc's coming we just haven't got the confirmed date or anything when it's released, but we know they're working hard on it

[harsh egret]

also this #the-dark-ages message

[spiral sable]

Ok thanks

[weak imp]

Good evening, last night Hugo found a new word for the future of Dark Ages?

[harsh egret]

"Master Arenas"

[weak imp]

In your opinion, is this related to the master levels or the Ripatorium? Or perhaps both?

[harsh egret]

in my opinion it's related to slayer gates, so maybe a new name for the slayer gates for this dlc

hugo did hint at slayer gates returning before

[weak imp]

I'm eager to see what kind of challenge its doors will present.

Do you think it's possible that the major game update will add challenges to the main campaign? Like Slayer Gates in the Dark Ages campaign?

[harsh egret]

there's a rumored master campaign that could be on the way, so maybe it's possible in that

didnt think about that lol

[weak imp]

That would be incredible. ID, who were impacted by COVID and the imposed 1-year maximum delay, will they, to make up for it, prepare the best post-game imaginable

[fringe comet]

What was revealed in the latest stream about the dlc I couldn't watch it

[hazy pasture]

Master Arenas

This is this week's nugget

[fringe comet]

Except that

[hazy pasture]

Nothing else

[fringe comet]

Did they say anything about any updates or their dates

[fringe comet]

[hazy pasture]

Nope as far as I know

[fringe comet]

So basically just the word "master arenas"

[hazy pasture]

Yh

[fringe comet]

Damn

What are we supposed to do with that

[harsh egret]

could be the slayer gates of this dlc

which would still be pretty big, but nothing actually new

[hazy pasture]

We are supposed to eat the nugget and understand that Slayer Gates are returning

[fringe comet]

They said that before tho right?

[hazy pasture]

Yeah they did

You could say...no new nugget for this week

[fringe comet]

[harsh egret]

with everything they said last week, it makes sense

[hazy pasture]

They literally nuked nuggets

Anymore new nugget would get Hugo turned into a hotdog

[harsh egret]

josh said the last weeks teasers was literally an issue internally xd

hugo trolled about dropping hints that would get him into phil spencers office not long ago

guess that actually happened lol

[hazy pasture]

Lmao

[hazy pasture]

Prophecy came out to be true it seems

[rough violet]

I jst finished my 1st playhrough

On UV

It took 5 days, 15 hours playtime

[crude sparrow]

was there a stream last night?

[obsidian shard]

Yes

the word was Master Arena

and Flux Capacitor

[crude sparrow]

the fuck is a flux capacitator 😭

[obsidian shard]

The time machine device from Back to the Future

[crude sparrow]

imagine if there were flashbacks but instead of it being of the past we'd see into the future

[obsidian shard]

also tf you mean what's a flux capacitor

[crude sparrow]

am I supposed to know? xD

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/back-to-the-future-backtothefuture-bttf-back-to-the-future-movie-backtothefuturemovie-gif-8277183654145756493

[crude sparrow]

yeah I have no idea what I'm looking at

saw the trailer for the diablo collab this morning and thought it was the doom dlc trailer for a sec

[obsidian shard]

lmao, makes sense lol

[crude sparrow]

I deadass thought they were turning the game into a top down shooter xDDD

[versed quarry]

Uncultured

[merry sapphire]

sick.... Cant Wait

wasnt it exactly like a day before the one year anniversary

hope the dlc actually has a story that isnt "hunt down the leaders"

that actually progresses the story rather than a lil side story

[obsidian shard]

THATS A YEAR

[obsidian shard]

It will def have a story

[merry sapphire]

actually its 364 days #GetItRight

[merry sapphire]

hope samur maykr and the wretch actually have a role in this game

and hope samur maykr's personality is the same as samuel hayden and not "Preacher Mode" like how he was in TAG

[warm ibex]

hugo confirmed that the DLC will not focus on any pre-established characters, but will instead focus on the Doom Slayer's new companion "Gleebo" and his tragic backstory

Not to be confused with Glorbog, the main antagonist

[obsidian shard]

Peach, (I'm dying)

[crude sparrow]

cant wait for Gleebo lore

[versed quarry]

Can’t wait for another character voiced by Darin De Paul

[lone turtle]

Does anyone know how I can fix a bug? I need to get the trophy for all the codexes and all the mastery challenges.

[obsidian shard]

do you have ALL the codexs?

[lone turtle]

I got them on all levels

And for the mastery challenge, I'm missing one stone, but I've already collected all the stones on all levels.

[obsidian shard]

Double check in-game, even tho the level might say you have em all, theirs a bug that'll show off stuff you dont have

[thin hound]

Is it just me or was he also the voice in the latest Castlevania game trailer?

[random sand]

"Gleebo" sounds like some kinda character from a 2D cartoony platformer type game to me. Idk why😭

[frosty pine]

It sounds like the name of a random glup shitto that would appear in the In memorium bit at the end of a smiling friends episode

[warm ibex]

Gleebo is revealed to be the Turkey from Super Turbo Turkey Puncher 3. The DLC will have you going back in time to the first thanksgiving to take Gleebo off the menu

[frosty pine]

That’s right, the dlc will have you going back in time to the first thanksgiving to take Gleebo off the menu

[random sand]

By force

[warm ibex]

It would be cool to see a STTP3 reference in TDA somehow ngl

maybe the turkey could be an emblem on one of the sentinel banners, similar to the dopefish banner from the art book

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-peak-its-peak-peak-it's-phenomenal-phenomenal-gif-1607096610738621263

[mystic barn]

Turkey wrestling, a time honoured tradition in sentinel culture where sentinels from all around gather to a turkey pen and watch as their strongest warriors beat up their livestock

[merry sapphire]

NEW DOOM THE DARK AGES artbook UPDATE OUT

[merry sapphire]

Gleebo the lovable marketable Plushie Out Now!

[harsh egret]

All the update did was decrease the download size

So probably compressed a buncha stuff

[merry sapphire]

nah man im sure the dlc is in there somewhere

like the whole thing

[tribal hamlet]

don't they usually do this shortly before a big update?

[dark thunder]

TIME TRAVEL IN DOOM

[obsidian shard]

It was just the artbook lol

[tribal hamlet]

Oh ok

[solar cairn]

Slayer returns in Avengers: Doomsday

[split gate]

It’s hidden behind a code we need to unlock by flipping the pages of the artbook a certain number

[tender vessel]

Just made it to City of Ry’uul

[fading bone]

cosmic realm levels are the best in the game

[fleet spruce]

I'm jamming to Into the Void almost daily

[random sand]

Real. They really cooked with those

[heady trout]

once you reach the first cosmic realm level, it's a non stop ascent until belly of the beast, then it picks back up with harbor of souls, then goes down somewhat with the Atlan segment in final battle and then once you reach Enhanced Azhrak it's peak until the end

my favorite level still is Reckoning doe

[solid nacelle]

Idk about you guys but the cacodemon's parryable projectile is most definitely still bugged for me

[random sand]

you mean how it shoots way too fast? ignores its charge-up sometimes?

[solid nacelle]

Yes

During the streams Josh says they fixed it through a tunable or something but it still does it

[merry sapphire]

i think they are the worst levels in the game

[fading bone]

https://tenor.com/view/wrong-i-think-you-should-leave-with-tim-robinson-incorrect-you-got-it-wrong-false-gif-8877109044393951791

[merry sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cat-kitty-depressed-guangdang-sad-meow-gif-2548323962849249220

[harsh egret]

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/free-birds-thanksgiving-they-go-back-in-time-to-the-first-thanksgiving-to-get-turkeys-off-the-menu-turkeys-schaffrillas-gif-27124411

Oh wait flux capacitor you say

Time travel you say

[split gate]

That’s right, the Doomslayer goes back in time to the first Doom game, to get Daisy off the menu 🗣️

[slender night]

We're going back in time to 1995 id Software to get the E4M8 end screen text off the menu

[split gate]

When you enter the time travel mission and the Doom 1 menu replaces the TDA menu, absolutely cinema

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/guy-fnaf-purple-screaming-crazy-gif-25994994

C'mon man

What are we doing here

I thought it was fine with the limited exposure I had

But nope

[alpine pilot]

where doom

[covert goblet]

Here me out:
If Serret met Daisy, they would be best friends

[covert goblet]

It's there

[worn lark]

can someone please tell me if buying doom the dark ages after finishing doom 2016 and doom eternal is worth it?

[fleet spruce]

it is absolutely worth it, an incredible experience

also DLC is just around the corner

[fading bone]

the server full of doom fans will surely say it isnt worth it

[graceful rivet]

wait really?

[slender night]

You're being fed well with quality but not with quantity. I paid full price and I'm happy but I'm a hardcore DOOM fan, idk how others will feel about the price point

[fading bone]

it goes on sale often enough

spring sale coming up soon

[graceful rivet]

I love dark ages but yes do wait for a sale

[fading bone]

waiting for it to go on sale and picking up the premium edition to give you the free DLC is very worth while

[graceful rivet]

I remeber when i got eternal for sale in 2020 with dlc for like 20 something dollars. def wait for sale.

[random sand]

yes

[worn lark]

thx

[tribal hamlet]

Does anyone know if Bethesda will be at pax East this year?

[worn lark]

There isnt a confirmation that they will be there but there is hope

Maybe a small booth or something light

[hard thistle]

anynoe know when the dlc will release? i'm assuming this year, but like? summer? winter?

[obsidian shard]

Uhh no idea my guess is may-september

Not November since GTA 6 is releasing then

[hard thistle]

Wolverine is releasing in September. soo maybe May - August

[obsidian shard]

True true,

But ya anything Past May is my best bet, but could be tomorrow, could be December 31st.

[idle swallow]

so idk if a lot of people here know well about that game series but
why do so many people compare The Dark Ages to Serious Sam?

[obsidian shard]

I see it compared between Serious Sam and Quake

Quake i understand the comparisions, Serious sam.... NOOO Idea

[idle swallow]

I feel like it's because compared to 2016 and Eternal TDA has more of a focus on linear big levels with waves of hordes of enemies
that's the gameplay of Serious Sam

[green estuary]

No clue lol
Serious Sam is basically just a game series where you hold down the S and mouse1 buttons and occasionally strafe one way or the other

In terms of combat depth it’s about as shallow as a shooter can possibly get

[solid nacelle]

Probably because one of dark ages' selling points was the increased enemy count, feeling like you're fighting a horde and whatnot, that's probably where the comparison comes from

I'm not really familiar with the serious sam franchise myself but I think that game has pretty high enemy densities

[iron cedar]

I love the dark ages.
It's my favorite game of the doom series but one thing I dont get it's why there are atlan skins?

I mean, you can change the atlan skin in only the third level.
Because the second time you get the atlan is just default and the third time is the king novik one.
It's a waste of potential.

[green estuary]

It probably took them basically no time at all

So why not

[solid nacelle]

I still can't wrap my head around why only one level lets you see your actual atlan skin

Kinda defeats the purpose if you ask me

[green estuary]

The atlan skins were more than likely just an afterthought that they included just because they could

[real crater]

is it?

they might saythe release date is november 19 or whatever it was

no guarantee it wont be delayed again

we were supposed to been have it for a few months now

you werent fast enough to delete that reaction i saw it

[foggy fable]

I don’t think they would delay the dlc because of it

I also partially think November “might” be too far away

That would be 1.5 years after launch

[real crater]

i was referring to gta 6 but yeah im sure tda is coming soon

i know id wouldnt do us like rockstar

[foggy fable]

I like that there is no time restriction this time

Year one pass really forced them to squeeze both tags into 1 year

[green estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1389644177762947115/1479996770720157777/image0.jpg?ex=69ae11e7&is=69acc067&hm=fa0d572b9bd2cdc65fa17c63a8ef6e77c1ec299e1e99357e52f7b20969929b21&

I love openly disingenuous posts like this

“why did TDA sell so poorly?”
shows a chart from 6 days after release

[harsh egret]

The type of post u would see on the facebook group

[green estuary]

the internet man

Never fails to dissapoint

[stuck basalt]

lowkey, my guess is either late march or april (but lowkey having dobuts since its huge sooooo yeah)

we'll only get a confirmation once the trailer comes out

[frail bloom]

So is that a thing that's generally believed?

What abt all those sales, it was topping the charts wasn't it?

Kinda confused on this

[green estuary]

It didn’t sell as well as eternal, but it obviously sold pretty damn well

[frail bloom]

Ye I'd say that's fair

But like where did it flop

[green estuary]

But I have no idea what the brainlets on social media think

[frail bloom]

Interesting, the post you shared, is it new?

Wait it is

[green estuary]

Made 5 hours ago

[stuck basalt]

dumbasses called it woke bcs of a female character

[green estuary]

that’s a small subsection of people

social media is great at making a vocal minority of people look much larger than they actually are

[elder raven]

Did you Know..?

doom the dark ages sold about 4, 4 1/2 copies?

[green estuary]

The reality of the situation is that the differences in sales between TDA and eternal aren’t because of any gameplay differences—it’s because one, eternal launched at essentially the perfect moment, two, TDA launched free on gamepass (as opposed to eternal which didn’t come to gamepass on pc until like 9 months after release), and three, despite TDA’s technical requirements not being any less reasonable for the time than any other game in the series, the graphics card market is a lot worse now which makes the RT requirement harder to stomach

[green estuary]

Million? Sounds fairly reasonable

[heady trout]

true

[heady trout]

eternal coming out in 2020 is CLUTCH

[green estuary]

Indeed
Everyone’s finger was basically hovering over the buy button for weeks because they were bored out of their skulls

[heady trout]

the only saving grace of 2020

[harsh egret]

it also did pretty good when it comes to actual revenue, less than eternal probably as well but still people forget to take revenue into account, they just look at sales and just compare it to any other games

[green estuary]

Caught bro mid-pfp switch

[green estuary]

Yeah being free on gamepass on launch I’m sure absolutely tore into actual sales

Back when gamepass used to be a good value

[harsh egret]

tda was 2nd best selling game in the US by revenue in May, behind Nightreign

[green estuary]

not too shabby

[harsh egret]

kinda crazy cuz nightreign launched on the 30th of that month

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/491020118780805140/1480008649563836436/image.png?ex=69ae1cf7&is=69accb77&hm=92afc285672b9f315fddd1d0015d74fc01e9b450c2dd694b4fc5cfbd45a237ce&

this is year-to-date top 20 games in the US ranked by revenue

5th jan - 31 may

[green estuary]

typical glaze of fromsoft

[harsh egret]

it having "elden ring" in the name def helps

[green estuary]

I might just be a hater but I legitimately cannot understand how so many people slob all over the souls franchise

[harsh egret]

only fromsoft game i played was elden ring and sure it was insanely good imo but it's def overglazed

[obsidian shard]

peak

its not like it sold an additional 700k units on steam since then

nor was it deemed a success internally (it was via job listing posts)

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057

peam*

[obsidian shard]

ALSO to note 2.2 million on gamepass with Dark ages only available on ultimate thats around 40 million ALONE

[hearty edge]

late march seems like a stretch now imo

[hearty edge]

and to be fair, doom eternal was right at the start of the pandemic so people had a whole year to play

the age old argument i know but it's true

and last year was a great year for games in general so tda had competition

[hearty edge]

like, we already are a week in on march and hugo recently said the trailer is still ways to go

i would expect late april to may

[hearty edge]

image failed to load goes hard

[stuck basalt]

yeah that's also pretty damn close ngl

[hearty edge]

true

[vapid lodge]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Doom/comments/1rnh947/oh_wow_whats_the_reason_for_the_low_sales_of_doom/

Oh looks like we can post links here

@obsidian shard this is what I mentioned a few days ago

Looks like someone else brought the same subject in discussion

[obsidian shard]

ye, as said the "Analytics" are pretty old at the point

[split gate]

https://tenor.com/view/no-lies-national-geographic-not-lying-telling-the-truth-gif-4483366

[neon perch]

'we made GKs faster so you could cut through several enemies at once, like in 300'
constantly seeing enemies exit GK state because Doomguy is doing something else instead of executing the highlighted enemy

Meanwhile In 2016 and Eternal I'm executing 20 enemies in the span of 3 seconds.

It's like the game never does what I want it to do. I don't know why they didn't just make it so E interrupts your current action and gives priority to taking down an enemy.

[obsidian shard]

you can shoot them too

In the previous games you could also extend how long they were staggered

you can do the same in Dark Ages

[neon perch]

DE had everything going for it in 2020. Unfortunately the dumbass year one pass bullshit screwed over Mick as well as production for TAG 1 and 2. They basically had to crunch to get everything done in under a year so they could honor that, so we ended up with two DLCs of mixed quality and a composer getting the boot to meet an arbitrary deadline.

[obsidian shard]

the DLC music was made by Andrew Hulshult and David Levy

[neon perch]

All because they had the genius idea of releasing an OST that wasn't even done in physical form or fully mastered yet, which they ended up not even releasing with the collector's edition.

[random sand]

Since when did your name become all fancy?

[obsidian shard]

Just did a bit ago lol

[random sand]

God damn. Sentinels role. Is that for server boosting?

[obsidian shard]

Its not all id's fault, I Know this convo has happened a millions times, but Mick did sign those contracts. (even as shitty and tight as they were, he still signed them)

[obsidian shard]

yes, fancy name thing is something I Get for Nitro

[random sand]

Ah

[neon perch]

On a different topic I'm starting to get really tired of Acolytes.

Just not fun to fight in the least.

[random sand]

Why? They die to like 2 SSG shots

[fading bone]

just gotta keep shield bashing them/shield throw stunning them and melee

burst em down before they can jump all over the place

[obsidian shard]

Shield Throw will lock em down, bash+SSG will get em staggered too

[split gate]

The saddest thing about it, no offical OST release with the tracks all mixed by Mick

[neon perch]

Especially in Ripatorium arenas. Just so groanworthy having the fucker jump around while you're swimming through enemies, then having to hunt down the actual thing just so it can run away and become 50% faster once the projection disappears.

[obsidian shard]

he did 6, and those have a HIGH range of differing quality

[neon perch]

Like sit still you jackass. The 3rd arena is particularly annoying due to this. I hate having this clown at 2 simultaneous locations and having to hunt it down everytime.

[split gate]

Yep and they’re fantastic. Also, cheers to the community for getting some banger mixes tho but we never got the OST at its full potential

[obsidian shard]

ye, bit hard to balance pre-sets with em, but next pre-set has em down nice and smooth

[split gate]

I’m just happy FM got to mix all of their tracks

[neon perch]

FM's tracks still aren't mixed very well.

[split gate]

Yeah there’s some bits I wish they included but it’s a relief for me that they at least did it themselves

[random sand]

They seem pretty well mixed to me. At least most of them do

[split gate]

They used what they had well, the gamerips I heard made me think they could be even better

But still a very solid ost

[random sand]

It's my fav out of the DOOM osts

[split gate]

But I understand it’s got something to do with their contract

[obsidian shard]

Ye, They had a pretty short run time for all the music they made, theirs about 8+ hours of music with 15-25 per Heavy combat (on average) so ALOT gets cut

[split gate]

Idk who it was but someone mentioned that one of the tracks had like 40 min of gamerip, crazy

[random sand]

But what we did get was amazing so idec about that

[obsidian shard]

Steel Beyond the Grave has about an hour

[split gate]

That’s insane lol

[obsidian shard]

All different stems, Bass, Perc, NoPerc, GuitarOnly, Drumkit, DrumOnly, Some wicked shit

synth only

no synth

[split gate]

I’d always commend FM for stepping up to be the next composers regardless, they were going to get shat on by the nonsensical fans of the community

[random sand]

Can't say i've heard much synths from TDA but i guess it is a medevial game. Also i think i've heard some

[obsidian shard]

Ye, their mixed tracks are great! and ALL the music in game is simple put; Incredible! Pretty cool to hear the differences from In-game to OST tho!

[obsidian shard]

Typically Synths were layers behind the guitars to give em a louder drive and sound, same with the tagelharpa

of course the instruments and synths came forward for specific tracks (Atlan Battleground, Into the Void, From the Ashes, Blood Spill)

[random sand]

I remember hearing that one part of Unholy Siege there the guitar goes crazy while in combat on Siege part 1. That shit gave me the same adrenaline TOTTFIY did

[random sand]

Yes. When it comes to osts like this, synths are typically used as layers to make it more impactful. I think they did sometimes make it stand on their own but not to the same degree as 2016 or Eternal

[obsidian shard]

Eternal and 2016 had em in the Front as it made the melodies/the "Pop Sound" as mayo puts it

Sythns were the lead in the past two games, now their the support

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1475949397971042326/1478971908283306098/alsxuc.gif

[random sand]

Yes. Eternal and 2016 not only used synths, they used leads that stood on their own. TDA relies on that HEAVY guitar and the tagelharpa (which might be why i love it so much)

[obsidian shard]

Cello, Tagelharpas, Mandolins, Double bass, In general quite a few "Folk" intruments

Drumming from an Elk-skin drum, and a Drum kit

[random sand]

Yup. I do wish they went for the medieval theme a bit more for some tracks because some of them just feel like heavy metal and das it but alot of them nail it. Especially the menu theme and Blood Spill

[obsidian shard]

Theomachy as well
Infernal Chasm and Unholy Siege, add that "Cinematic" feel which i think they do really well

then theirs the standard "Synthy" Tracks
Kreed boss tracks, Cosmic Realm Tracks, Atlan Battleground, Hex and Flame

Already listed half the heavy tracks of the OST

[fleet spruce]

And yet the funniest part is that Dark Ages choices of metal in its soundtrack are much closer to the roots Doom than other 2 modern Doom games, while you can hear mfs screaming that Doom should sound djenty. This is the kind of stuff Mick also wanted to do before they shot it down during 2016's development hell.

[obsidian shard]

I always think back to the PEAK that is the Quake II OST

and QUAKE

[fleet spruce]

god i love Quake 2 soundtrack so raw and powerful

[obsidian shard]

Gotta appriecate it all tho!

[random sand]

Yeah. I also love when the ost gets that cinematic orchestrial part. Unholy Siege has it, Blood Red has it. Now that shit gives me goosebumps

[obsidian shard]

Those bits in Blood Red never not make me get a shiver

[fleet spruce]

https://youtu.be/ZtL7Ci0h8F0?si=Dx0fLO3E7K6VaV0N

[random sand]

That ending cinematic that has that part chefs kiss

[obsidian shard]

Serrat's Intro be bussin too

[random sand]

Main menu theme with a keychange. Lowkey works

[obsidian shard]

As much as I Yap about Dark Ages OST, Eternal's and 2016's are just as good, all 3 are in the same teir in my book

Tho the Cinematic and more metal bit for Dark Ages pushes it up a bit due to my music taste

(Jazz, Blues and Metal)

[random sand]

Honestly, i love all of 'em ofc but i love more tracks from TDA than i love from Eternal and 2016. It might be the heavy guitar for me. I love music that just has those HEAVY sounds

[hard thistle]

I’m just glad we have three games worth of PEAK violence and gym music. Listening to What Lies Below from Dark Ages as we speak.

[boreal halo]

is there any guide vid on how to get every trophy in doom the dark ages? (xbox)

[green estuary]

yeah their annoyance scales directly with how large a given arena is

[solar cairn]

I've been writing for a long time that this is the most annoying mob in the entire trilogy. It doesn't seem to be parried, and on high difficulties, it spams the entire arena, causing you to die within a second.

I still don't dare to go through the presets in the Ripatorium, where there are acolytes or acolyte leaders, that's my kryptonite

[fading bone]

you just have to prioritize them first in the fight

chase them down right away and burst them down

its like an archvile

[green estuary]

I think everyone knows how to deal with them
it's the process of finding the fuckers and pinning them down in a massive ripatorium arena that's a pain

[fading bone]

ripatorium sure, but this guys saying just in the main campaign

[green estuary]

but also they're not annoying because they'll kill you all that fast--their purple rain just chips away at your health while you're preoccupied with something else

[fading bone]

yeah

[solar cairn]

In the campaign, yes, the demons spawn gradually and it's much easier, but in the Ripatorium, when a ton of them are dumped on you at once, it's just a pain.

[fading bone]

yeah i agree a lot of them at once in ripatorium is annoying

[dark thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-the-dark-ages-doom-true-launch-the-true-doom-launch-the-true-gif-17039720600748597696

[hearty edge]

The start of infernal chasm is so good ong

It really does feel like you are in the most badass action movie ever

Blood red, unholy siege and into the void are peak too

[raw violet]

Calling it now, DOOM: TDA DLC is going to bridge DOOM > DOOM 2 > DOOM 2016

So it all makes sense

Because we know that the doom marine only ended up on Argent D'Nur after being thrown into a portal by the mother demon at the end of DOOM 64

But some say thats a plot hole

Cause in DOOM it goes straight to DOOM 2 and he just chooses to stay in Hell until he found out about the mother demon and decided to finish the fight so no more portals could end up on Earth

[obsidian shard]

DOOM GUY stayed in hell at the End of DOOM 64, and either discovered a portal and went through it or was thrown through it

[raw violet]

I like to believe he was finally beaten and thrown throughout a portal

Or tired out enough

Kinda like how he was put in the sarcophagus when they collapsed an entire TEMPLE on him

Which kinda brings up another plot hole.. the exact same sarcophagus is the one we got brought back from the Underworld from...

Re-Birthed in blood

Do the demons get it? How do they get it? How did they find out it was the old thing capable of entombing the Doomslayer

[hearty edge]

I believe that after doom Ii and killing the icon of sin, doom guy remained on earth for a while until the mother demon started another demonic invasion on mars

[raw violet]

Yeah I got them mixed up

[hearty edge]

After killing her doom guy stayed in hell until he was tired and went through the portal

[raw violet]

Didn't he fight demons for like centuries

[hearty edge]

Yea I think

[frosty roost]

he did in hell iirc

[raw violet]

But times moves different in Hell

Because he hadn't been given near immortality yet from the Divinity machine

Which we now know was a power move by the Khan Maker to put the Doom Slayer under their control thanks to TDA

[frosty roost]

time moves slower in hell than on earth

[raw violet]

Speaking of which, dont we go back to earth in Eternal?

Isnt that the planet in the beginning of the game?

[alpine pilot]

where doom

[raw violet]

Because after being teleported by Hayden in the end of 2016, he went and found that Argent castle ship thingy and found his way back to earth just in time for him to save it again

Because he found out the truth about what they were using human souls for

"They are no longer your people to save".. we never understand what that meant, but I think we will in TDA dlc

[raw violet]

Also because he knew Hayden was going to open up more portals

[obsidian shard]

To note the Eternal/2016 Earth appears to be a separate Earth from the classic ones, but theirs no confirmation anywhere yet

[hearty edge]

The first level is literally called hell on earth

[obsidian shard]

Final Sin, Super Gore Nest, Cultist Base and Doom hunter base are also on Earth

[green estuary]

same with UAC atlantica and reclaimed earth

[hearty edge]

Isn't arc complex also on earth

Doom eternal really feels like doom II hell on earth 2: hell on earth

[hearty edge]

I feel like it could very well be the same cuz iirc doom 2016 takes place like 100 years after the ogs

And since they discovered argent energy which didn't exist in the originals a lot can change

[obsidian shard]

It's def not 100

[green estuary]

yep

[twilit stone]

More like 100 billion or smth

[obsidian shard]

2016 codex's talk about the Slayer fighting hell for Eons

[hearty edge]

I mean since time passes differently in hell than in earth and they're different dimensions and shi, some holograms talk about it being the year 2143 or something like that

And 1993 took place in like 2050

[elder raven]

what

[hazy pasture]

iirc the events of Classic Doom took place in 2020

[hearty edge]

Oh

[hazy pasture]

And in case of Modern Earthly Realms it was 2143-45

Again not sure about it so take it as a grain of salt

[hearty edge]

Yea that

[twilit stone]

What a coincidence, thats also the year our real world went to Hell 😄

[hazy pasture]

Yeah lol

[hearty edge]

Doomguy actually fought against COVID in doom II

They just represented it as a demonic invasion

[twilit stone]

John Romero predicted it all

[frosty roost]

wait so another earth in a different timeline??

[hazy pasture]

Yeah the earths in Classics, Doom 3 and modern entries are different

But same timeline ig

[heady trout]

doom lore basically boils down to "contradiction? No there's just more of the same thing"

[frosty roost]

ohhhhh

[heady trout]

earth is a good example

funnily enough the only place where this isn't true is in hell, there's only one hell

[hazy pasture]

More or less the only way to explain the anomalies tbh

[hazy pasture]

Yeah well both Urdak and Hell are constants

And Cosmic Realm is just outta the equation

[solar cairn]

Gentlemen, almost a year has passed unnoticed

We are getting closer to DLC

[elder raven]

i would sell out all of you for just a frame of the dlc

[scarlet dirge]

Anyone got a release date prediction for dlc ?

[harsh egret]

wednesday

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/bart-megaphone-bart-megaphone-gif-18156871

allow me hato

[elder raven]

Wednesday

[sleek topaz]

THere should be Multiplayer. It is a waste not to use those huge battlegrounds for PvP.

[slender night]

I'm fine with the lack of MP because of how this is a paid title, the MP will die in like two years anyway, it's not worth the investment when you could put the money into upgrading the SP portion

[solar cairn]

june-august

[scarlet dirge]

Thanks

[solar cairn]

We are waiting for information from Hugo, and if he says that the development is in the final stages, then we can add 2-3 months, but it is unlikely that he will share such information openly on the stream

[scarlet dirge]

Noted thanks

[versed stone]

Anyone else here use Linux Mint? How well does Dark Ages run on Mint?

[sleek topaz]

I think it is sad Doom fans don't seem to care about multiplayer anymore...

[obsidian shard]

Well people like the story and gameplay

and as we seen not alot of people play the multiplayer so theirs no point in making one

[sleek topaz]

Doom is not supposed to be enjoyed by story...

[obsidian shard]

yes it is, all 3 modern Doom games have story

all 3 keep the pacing of the game "smooth" and relatively intriguing

DOOM has tons of lore in it now

[sleek topaz]

But not story-driven, DOOM has the best story for me because it is minimalistic abd very most of it is behing Codex and holograms. DOOM Eternal and beyond started to put story on the center more and more.

[robust shore]

“My favorite story is the story that stories the least”

[harsh egret]

ehm, wrong. plenty of people def enjoy doom for its story as well, even if it's not the main focus of course.

and its pretty easy to just skip cutscenes so I see no reason to complain about the story in eternal and tda

if you dont enjoy the cutscenes then i also doubt u sat and read through the codexes in 2016

"my favorite story is the story i didnt read"

[crude sparrow]

I liked the multiplayer in eternal, it wasnt perfect but it was pretty fun both as demons and slayer

loved learning all the tech for the demons throughout those 50 games you had to play for that golden podium

2016 multiplayer I didn't really care for, probably because I jumped into doom years after it was released so the multiplayer was already kinda dead anyway

and the deathmatch wasnt very special either tbh

I am quite glad they dropped multiplayer for dark ages this time around in favor of the singleplayer

cuz that's what most people come for anyway so "wasting" resources on a mode that will be dead for pretty much 90% of the game's lifetime doesnt seem very worth it

[robust shore]

I just like how funny the story (eternal ) is I don’t really care about it seriously

[obsidian shard]

2016 Multiplayer was like 90% made by a seperate studio

[crude sparrow]

it was more halo deathmatch than doom imo

also I saw some clips of like a modded eternal battlemode where it was a slayer 1v1 instead and that looked pretty fun too

[versed quarry]

I do think if they go back to multiplayer it should be deathmatch, just Slayer V Slayer.

Even better if there can be more than two people.

[crude sparrow]

I think that'd be too chaotic xD

also I cant really think of how the shield would function in multiplayer

[versed quarry]

Precisely why it'd be amazing.

[crude sparrow]

I do like chaotic

[merry sapphire]

they should give battlemode a try again

[willow beacon]

It’s probably removed

[crude sparrow]

well that would just be boring

[stark bough]

If anything i doubt it would be able to parry and the amount of damage it can take before breaking would be lowered

[warm ibex]

think about it though

TDA deathmatch with no shield, flail or mace would be a pretty accurate recreation of classic deathmatch

which would be awesome imo

[crude sparrow]

yeah but those weapons are what's unique about the game

I dont think I've seen a game have anything like the shieldsaw before

[warm ibex]

I can't say I'm too worried about the shield in a hypothetical classic deathmatch mode

classic deathmatch is classic deathmatch, added abilities kinda takes away from it imo

prior to TDA's release I thought 1v1 mech battles would be pretty cool as a unique mode. like rock em' sock em' robots

https://tenor.com/view/rockem-sockem-punch-toy-gif-17469029

[versed quarry]

Serrat V Serrat deathmatch

[crude sparrow]

that would be sick if the mech combat was a little more complex

[warm ibex]

I'd be interested in seeing them implement mech guns in a similar way that shield runes were added to slayer combat

instead of having dedicated gun segments, maybe doing a certain amount of perfect dodges would unlock a temporary weapon

[crude sparrow]

I was gonna say imagine if the mechs had huge shoulder mounted turrets like the slayer does but novik's royal atlan literally DOES have them already xD

[warm ibex]

lmao I wish those were available in more segments

[crude sparrow]

maybe in the dlc?

[versed quarry]

And some of the NPC atlans have them

[warm ibex]

tbf though if they do plan on making a civil war game next, I feel like expanded mech combat would be a no brainer. with the discovery and implementation of argent energy, mechs could be faster and have access to things like the spear or giant axes seen in concept art

[crude sparrow]

also I hate that the atlan skin only works for the first mech level

[warm ibex]

honestly not sure why that is

[versed quarry]

Ohhhhh

Yeah that’s weird

[crude sparrow]

I guess it makes sense for the final level since that's not your mech

but like cmon I have this sick gold skin for it and I only get to see it once?

[lament lotus]

I've been wanting to beat Ultra Nightmare for about a year now, but have been so burnt out on the challenge that I'd rather just get it over with so Ican claim the rewards. All those hours sunk into UN weredone legit, but I am aware of the game not erasing your save if you close the game before you see the game over screen. Should I go with that or just suck up my pride and tweak the assist settings?

I've beaten pandemonium difficulty without either, but Ultra Nightmare is a bit above my limits.

[crude sparrow]

the biggest problem with UN is that this game is REALLY long xD

if you still want the perma death challenge you could just lower sliders so they play more like ultra violence instead of nightmare and try and it beat it like that

no judging

[burnt flower]

is there anywhere i can report bugs👀 theres a small but annoying bug on my current NEW save of dark ages that shows i have all resources as soon as i start a level😞

[fading bone]

yeah that's a common one

been in the game for a long while now

[burnt flower]

aw poo.. well i hope it gets fixed soon it makes progression like 10% more tedious lol

[fading bone]

yeah its annoying

[obsidian shard]

should hopefully be fixed in Update 4 (DLC Update)

[burnt flower]

YAY

[obsidian shard]

Also i had a cool idea for the ripatorium

If theirs only fodder demons the music should totally play Light combat

[wintry forge]

This is cinema

Give me more of the bass segments rn 🔥

I'd say that or if there are like 3 or less heavies with fodder

[obsidian shard]

they do in fact exist in the ripatorium, they just dont appear frequently; but I have gotten a few, no idea how the Ripatorium works in the way of music

[wintry forge]

Would be cool if it was a tool in the preset editor

[obsidian shard]

I have heard all the bass sections for Infernal Chasm and Ancestral Beast

[obsidian shard]

THATS WHAT I'M SAYING

[wintry forge]

If you could set it to certain rounds to play heavy, light, etc

LITERALLY it would make it so much more engaging

[obsidian shard]

Percussion, Bass, Drums

[wintry forge]

It's fine the way it is, but it would just add a whole new layer to preset creation/sharing. Make them much more unique

Bass segment only run

https://tenor.com/view/perfection-perfect-michael-fassbender-magneto-x-men-first-class-gif-2260686001358167676

[obsidian shard]

Percussion and Drum only runs (Steel beyond the Grave-Hellspawn Rift have these, and they go STUPID Hard)

[wintry forge]

I hope Hugo reads ts ong

[obsidian shard]

or one of the other devs

[wintry forge]

Hellspawn has PERFECT bass and percussion sections. Best part of the song imo

[obsidian shard]

So True

https://tenor.com/view/omniman-gif-26206182

i'm uncertian about soon

June-ish

[fleet spruce]

i hallucinated that it will be in a week from now

[versed quarry]

How would dynamic music editing work though? I imagine it’d be rather complicated.

[wintry forge]

It'll just be in the settings alongside the individual round setup, same as anything else really. Like a "Music Style" or "Music Intensity" option, with a few different settings to adjust it to

[obsidian shard]

what Icon said plus we can already change the music on the fly too, so shouldn't be too bad to implement, basically asking the game to choose from a specific "Cache" of tracks

[carmine harness]

https://tenor.com/view/gru-despicable-me-despicable-me2-despicable-me3-despicable-me4-gif-20538138

[warm ibex]

this has nothing to do with doom

[ionic geyser]

Guys i just started doom the dark ages and gotta say, it’s fun

[random sand]

and it'll get even better. don't you worry

[ionic geyser]

thanks

makes me more excited

[random sand]

what level you on rn?

[ionic geyser]

i stopped at 5

[random sand]

that i believe is siege part 1. that one's a good one

[ionic geyser]

oh ok

cool

[random sand]

think the only level i'm not big a fan of is Spire of Nerathul but that one isn't for a while. that one's late game

also even that one has its moments there it is awesome

[ionic geyser]

ok

[unkempt dragon]

Knock it off

[carmine harness]

5 is holy city the first dragon level

[frosty roost]

morning

[random sand]

ah yeah forgot. that one's still also good

[carmine harness]

yessir

[random sand]

i may be one of the like 5 people who actually like the mech and dragon sections but i'll wear that badge proudly

[carmine harness]

me too man, they are a good break from the insane slayer combat

[random sand]

not to mention it being cool asf using a giant mech and a dragon to rip and tear. and i have checked. the mech and titans are actually huge. it's not just made to look that way. you are actually huge

my game glitched during the final battle once and i was in the world without the atlan. was pretty funny. the titans spawned too. took all my ammo but i did manage to kill an armored one

[carmine harness]

holy hell that sounds so fun

[carmine harness]

genuinely man those are just overhated and they are awesome parts of the game

[random sand]

was funny for about 10 minutes yeah. then the terrain started not liking me being there and also i ran outta ammo so i was pretty much softlocked

icing on the cake. that was an ultra-nightmare run 🙃

[carmine harness]

christ 😭

did you finish it though?

im on my second UN run, im on the "From Beyond" level ( i died to a silly mistake in siege 1 on my first run)

[random sand]

on that run? nope. my game was softlocked. everytime i loaded it again i spawned on the ground without the atlan. i had to start again...

https://klipy.com/gifs/losing-it-13

[carmine harness]

😭

dude im so sorry man holy shit

[random sand]

i eventually did it but that one just hurt 😭

think i did it on the 2nd or 3rd try after that run

honestly the hardest parts of UN in doom is early game typically but since you have the shield in TDA, it's more late game that is hardest

[random sand]

i do prefer the regular gameplay loop but i still do enjoy the dragon and mech sections. in fact, i wish there were more mech sections. was kinda disappointed there's only 3. hoping the dlc brings more

[carmine harness]

agreed, also serrat desereved a boss fight

[random sand]

also only level 3 showing your atlan skin is pretty lame

[carmine harness]

meaning? the atlan skins dont show for the first two?

[random sand]

nah nah. the atlan skin only shows for the first one. the rest you are using different atlans which don't have your skin

[carmine harness]

oh man that stinksss

[random sand]

it makes sense for the royal atlan but it's kinda lame for the hell one. hoping they fix that

[carmine harness]

true

[random sand]

idk if that'd work well since combat with him was fairly basic. would have to be refined to hell and back to not make it boring

[carmine harness]

also true, but it could work with atleast a small boss

[random sand]

i suppose you can count the kreed ship and those tentacles as boss fights? the ships too?

[random sand]

well we do have some. like the big cacos, titans, hell ships, tentacles and kreed ship

[carmine harness]

yeah but tbf none of them are really bosses like the old one or others

[random sand]

no, but idk if you can get any better than that since all dragon combat really is is shoot and dodge. it could most likely be done but would be hard to do

[carmine harness]

agreed, maybe if they added more mechanics to the dragon it would be more fun like missiles or dragon breath attack and stuff

[random sand]

maybe

[ionic geyser]

n3xon

i made it to chapter 5

[grand juniper]

Man I hate it when my keyboard just explodes because I fail a parry 😔

All the keys get flung out and my keyboard just becomes empty yk

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/tense1983-tense-spain-epic-csongo-gif-15101114

[neon gust]

You joke and all that but my keyboard's D and E keys occasionally pop out and it's really inconvenient because I use ESDF to move in this game

I swear I'll be in the middle of an encounter fighting for my life and suddenly my own hardware chooses to throw a wrench in my plans

[grand juniper]

Bro 🙏🙏

[heady trout]

one thing i felt was missing for serrat was dogfights in the sky, you clearly chase demon ships dogfight style but they won't ever fire back

[wide siren]

crazy they added that to the game

[heady trout]

just having more movement oriented battles in the air would have upped the ante hella, but you kind of just stand and dodge

[random sand]

that could've been cool yeah. maybe they'll make the ships shoot at you in an update

[heady trout]

i would have legitimately just added a sort of dodge option so you can weave around incoming projectiles with precise timing while chasing a demon ship firing back at you

star wars starfighter style basically

[split gate]

Man, idtech 8 really outdid itself

[wide siren]

more mobility in air battles would be 🔥 i like the mech and dragon parts to a degree but they could use some more time in the kitchen

[heady trout]

for the atlan i would have returned the hellbreaker shotgun for the final level, i mean they brought back the turret so why not the shotgun

[wide siren]

i do hope they don’t just abandon the mech and dragon stuff for the dlc/next game but keep developing them

[crisp frigate]

Was there any new cosmetics released?

[fading bone]

its time for a new keyboard mate lol

[neon gust]

Bit of a problem with that actually it's my laptop's keyboard

and I don't have enough room to buy and install a separate laptop

[neon gust]

Well this game's motto IS Stand & Fight

[heady trout]

this is a lie bc you dodge and fight with the dragon smh

[wide siren]

evil hugo be like run a mile and fight

[wooden lily]

Finished nightmare recently 2nd time

1st playthrough: noob repeating some parts about 20-30 times, big heavy shield boy was always pain and struggle, 120% speed

2nd pkaythrough: only few parts were still challenging, like 2-3 i guess, but otherwise very smooth experience.. oh wait.. i played 140% speed.. oh wait.. parry didnt work, attacks didnt work, got ass beat up instantly, i dont know if its latency in controls, but that was infuriating sometimes.. and last part of final boss fight was weird, on 120-130% i was able to parry, on 140% i pressed the button on time and somehow Slayer didnt react.. whatever.. game is epic.. bought helmet recently

[wooden lily]

There are 2 encounters with cacos, but i understand, its not that dynamic fight where you have to fly and maneuver

[shut zenith]

question, an i one of the few/large majority of people that once they get the SS, they just use that for 98% rest of their playthrough due to the sheer pain it causes and satisfying sounds?

[tidal crane]

Any new updates? For the DLC.

[frosty roost]

pinned messages

[obsidian shard]

Not yet

[alpine pilot]

[proven apex]

How dark are these ages?

[scenic lichen]

not as dark as the dlc ages

[stuck basalt]

thurday

thursday*

[random sand]

Pretty dark. Pretty doom too

[late sand]

got an extra copy of doom dark ages if anyone wants 2 buy hmu :p for xbox s/x digital

[merry sapphire]

They Should make Prototype 3 and Have a Collab With Doom

#WhoWitMe

[hard thistle]

the closest modern game to prototype 3 would be playing as venom in Insomniac's spiderman 2. so they should collab with them. there's no similarity with doom and prototype

[merry sapphire]

that would make sense as prototype was originally a venom game

they are after all the same guys who made that one hulk game, which shares alot of its dna with prototype

[hard thistle]

imagine the sick parkour alex mercer would have if insomniac made prototype instead

[merry sapphire]

that would be Sick as hell. Though i prefer radical's style of parkour, with how the movement feel fluid and alex mercers "weaves" through obstacles while maintaining full control of movement, as opposed to spiderman, where its playing an animation that kinda locks you in and slows it down a bit

they removed the parkour though in prototype 2 and i do not know why

[hard thistle]

yeah idk why either. i missed all the cool flips and stuff

[hard thistle]

but adding the tendril weapon made up for everything. haven't used anything more satisfying than that ever in a videogame before

[merry sapphire]

tendril weapon was sick as hell, it was really unique aswell

too bad they removed like half the cool abilities you can do in prototype 1 though, even if it made the game more streamlined

[scarlet dirge]

It seems i have hit my average player ceiling for this game

Idk what do to in this they just kill me in 1 second in the second stage
https://discord.com/channels/162891400684371968/1464757204069646396

Oh this is harbor of souls lol I was fighting on the wrong place it seems

[wide siren]

that’s just part of the design 👀

it’s called waltz of the archdemons because in this one the slayer is the dance floor

[stray pollen]

Hey dudes, I dropped a 2.0 of a Ripatorium set I made about a week ago. It's ridiculous but can be achieved. Would like to hear your guy's feedback on them. Cheers y'all

[scarlet dirge]

I was playing on the wrong map the entire time 😭

[stone pasture]

update to premium upgrade 2 days ago, hmmmmmm

[harsh egret]

thats just a change in review score.

[umbral flint]

Can anyone help with Doom the dark ages constantly freezing on my pc? Battlefield 6 also restarts my pc and the Pragmata demo keeps crashing and rdr2 has lots of stuttering
Im using i7-14700kf , i did update to 0x12f
rtx 3070
32gb ddr5
im on 1080p
i also play on medium for all the games so its not a vram issue

[green estuary]

a couple things (for TDA, but if other games also have issues then it might be a pc problem)

• turn off discord overlay if you have it enabled, it's a total PoS (this could be what's causing stuttering on all your games)
• try switching present from compute off (for TDA specifically), it improves performance on a lot of setups but it could be causing the issue

discord try not to be an absolute piece of garbage challenge: impossible

[umbral flint]

i never have discord open when i play and present from compute is off, my cpu is probably damaged due to the issues the 14th gen has so ill get a amd but thanks for the help

[green estuary]

np

[wary raven]

Does the "hell ship" in some chapters reappears ? Like in chapter 14 ? Or once they vanish its too late ?
(For the challenge of course)

[obsidian shard]

During the level I believe they will disappear but quite a few are around the maps, Replaying the level will have em show back up

[alpine pilot]

Where doom

[fading bone]

BEHIND YOU!

[gritty sun]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F32MAJ-LtNU

Same thing happened to me few minutes ago

[fading bone]

wtf lol

[elder raven]

i wanna fight the old one as the slayer

[gritty sun]

Yea , I did fight the normal demons on the ground that you normally stomp with the atlan
They were working

[obsidian shard]

All the demons in the Atlan and Dragon levels are normal they are just EXTREMELY Low Quality to preserve resources

The demons can kill the dragon

[wide siren]

what is this - doom for ants?

[twilit stone]

that's just the size of titans

[scenic lichen]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBIcfLj5IXY

sorry, what controversy

is midnight baiting again or did something actually happen

[scarlet dirge]

I literally just finished and yeah idk what he is referring to

[fervent maple]

Midnight being Midnight as always

[scenic lichen]

oh hes referring to the sequel statement of the dlc

i think its a big stretch to call it an "awful controversy" when at worst its just some skepticism about that statement

[green estuary]

you know damn well he's baiting lol

[scenic lichen]

yeah I gave him my view

rip

curiosity killed the cat

[marble tulip]

I think that when you get off the Atlan you can still parry the little demons

[obsidian shard]

you can yes

they act exactly the same

their just really low quality

[marble tulip]

I hope the ripatorium improves the Atlan

And that way we won't have to wait for another game to improve those mechanics

[crisp frigate]

Do we have any idea if TDA DLC is nearing release or no?

[stuck basalt]

The trailer is when we will know.
Personally, I feel it's pretty damn near.

But we'll just have to find out once the trailer releases which is not that far out i guess

[obsidian shard]

No

[thin hound]

Trailer should be any day, I’d reckon the 10th anniversary might be when the DLC could actually release (May 13th)

[obsidian shard]

Hugo mentioned a few streams ago it'll "be a bit" till a trailer

[thin hound]

He said it wouldn’t be next week back then

[obsidian shard]

What

[thin hound]

Just a guess

[obsidian shard]

Meant for this

Pinged wrong msg

[thin hound]

Maybe we’re talking about different instances

[stuck basalt]

idk when it could be random butttttt waiting is good too

[thin hound]

Not for me

[obsidian shard]

Like 2 weeks ago Hugo said it would "be a bit till we get a trailer" in the same stream he JOKINGLY said "Trailer next week"

[obsidian shard]

It'll probably be like the Indiana Jones marketing imo

[thin hound]

That was it, they said, “Imagine if we actually had the trailer out next week and the DLC the week after?” Implying it was not that

And that was like two weeks ago I think

[obsidian shard]

That was a joke

[thin hound]

I know

[stuck basalt]

sounds like they're super super close to being done with it considering how long hugo has been playng it

[thin hound]

Implying it was not that

[obsidian shard]

Ye sounds like the polishing stage, also waiting on music

My guess is Either may or June Xbox Showcase

(FOR A TRAILER)

[marble tulip]

[stuck basalt]

maybe finishing move

[obsidian shard]

Finishing Move what

[warm ibex]

I've never heard of June Xbox Showcase, what other games have they made music for?

Do we know for certain that June Xbox Showcase will be making the dlc music?

[obsidian shard]

I'm going to STEAL Your channel

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/big-eyed-cat-stare-cat-giant-eye-cat-gif-26545953

[whole plover]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-cat-cat-stare-sad-cat-sad-kitty-gif-17971885025881787588

[scenic lichen]

personally i wouldnt think its near until a trailer drops

[solar cairn]

Trailer soon?

I m ready

[heady trout]

okay seriously whats up with the spike ground attack at close range from the cyberdemon

how is that fair or avoidable, do i just have to wait for him to do that and i move away and thats it?

is there any super heavy demon in this game that doesnt have at least one bullshit attack outside of the cosmic baron

Komodo has the projectiles, Vagary has the spit, Cyberdemon has the close range orange spike attack

idk what this game has with making a fine enemy and adding a bs attack to make things worse, like the cacodemon wall attack, the komodo projectile, the cyberdemon orange spike stomp

[fading bone]

cyberdemon has to be the simplest demon to fight against its quite satisfying honestly

idk ive never had any problems with him doing the ground spikes at close range

[green estuary]

that happens when you miss a parry on his ground stomp attack

if you don't miss the parry, the spikes won't be summoned

[heady trout]

okay then

[fading bone]

well that explains it. the ground stomp parry is pretty easy to hit. the big sword swipe one is the one i miss if i ever do

i swear that thing yeets itself out faster than normal sometimes

[heady trout]

agreed

[fading bone]

thinking about it i think thats usually on the leader/empowered cyberdemons actually which do have faster parries so that makes sense actually

[green estuary]

are you sure about that
I'm 95 percent sure the only differences between regular and leader cyberdemons are that:

• leaders shoot 3 homing skulls in a single volley instead of 1
• leaders take 3 parries to falter instead of 2
• leaders have 120k HP, up from 80k for the regular enemy

I really don't think the parry window is any different

[fading bone]

i thought they did?

what about the empowered ones

like the buffed ones idk how theyre actually called

[green estuary]

they attack faster, but the parry window remains the same

actually, I think every attack in the game has the same exact parry window

[fading bone]

well thats what i mean. the attack is faster which means you have less time to parry

[green estuary]

I'm fairly sure the parry window isn't actually changed on faster game speeds either

you just have less time to react to a given attack

[fading bone]

yeah thats what i mean

[solemn flower]

been falling behind on DOOM news over the last couple months, whats the fill on TDA's dlc

[green estuary]

but you have the same parry window

[fading bone]

ok but you understand what i mean lol

faster attack = less time to parry = feeling like smaller parry window

= missing the parry sometimes

[obsidian shard]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FdbLLjyz4xoto6AyutcgkoxggIWnbhW2Jnrf0f76OqE/edit?usp=sharing

[solemn flower]

Oh how convenient

thank you

[obsidian shard]

[solar cairn]

I'm praying that Hugo gets the green light for a new game that covers the events of the Civil War.

[obsidian shard]

he's the studio Director with Marty....

but ya

[solar cairn]

With the new management in Xbox, it’s not clear what will happen now

[obsidian shard]

id will continue to be id

they are a Unionized LLC

They arent going down without a fight

its also id Software

[split gate]

The grandfather of FPS gets special treatment lol

[obsidian shard]

yes

ie my money

your money

[stray pollen]

Now that I think about it, I'm kinda hyped that the DLC will be taking place mainly in Hell

[marble tulip]

[ancient atlas]

2 days until DOOM 2016 10th anniversary

[split gate]

2 days until the trailer releases 🗣️🗣️ (I’m delusional)

[fleet spruce]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/717363111308427309/1481218405309747251/image.png?ex=69b283a3&is=69b13223&hm=8d40019d18d12c71bad772a2b87df6fad042eccb2d6db333f3326c39b35e02f8&

2 months away

[raw violet]

https://tenor.com/view/glory-kill-doom-guy-doomguy-doom-slayer-doom-gif-8717701017865450563

[faint jackal]

They are rage…

[hearty edge]

only game series i've fully bought

well actually i'm only missing mgsv and mgs4 to finish that too

[solid beacon]

If there's super turbo turkey puncher 3 in subway at mt shasta would play it.

[fading bone]

https://tenor.com/view/doubting-i-think-you-should-leave-with-tim-robinson-skeptical-really-yeah-right-gif-14213564182913311497

[thin hound]

So far here is a run down of the amount of levels in each location in all 3 main DOOM games
Mars 12
Hell 14
Earth 8
Argent D’Nur/Sentinel 15
Urdak 2
Cosmic Realm 4
Misc 1

[hearty edge]

doom tda doing some heavy lifting on argent d'nur

[calm fractal]

There’s 8 main doom games are you specifically talking about nudoom?

[hearty edge]

wtf is misc

is it the world spear

[elder raven]

probably not? because world spear is on argent d’nur

maybe limbo? at the start of resurrection

[stray pollen]

That's exciting. I really hope that we get a game or dlc or anything that explains the events after 2016 and before Eternal

[warm ibex]

I assumed TAG2's Dark Lord fight, since that doesn't really have a consistent theme

Limbo isn't its own level so it wouldn't get a level classification

[frail bloom]

So I want y'alls opinion on this:

I watched Midnight's vid, and the verdict was that the upcoming dlc will actually be somewhat sequel size to Tda

And my question is, do we actually believe that

Bc I thought Hugo was speaking in Hyperbole, or simply saying that it's their largest dlc expansion yet

If you take the statement at face-value like some peeps, you'd think it would be 20 hours, 15+ levels with a ton of new features which is clearly not the case

Sure it prob will have a good amount of new tools, puzzles, enemies, bosses, music, enviroments etc, but it cannot be "sequel sized" and it's naive to think so

[fleet spruce]

i think "it's like a sequel" probably meant that it will push the story forward

[frail bloom]

Yes I thought that aswell

So why are there people, and Midnight now, expecting it to be this super huge behemoth that breaks the grounds of a traditional expansion

Sure the way it sounds makes it seem larger than normal but for a game to be a sequel to this game, it would have more campaign content

And tbh, I can't gauge how long it's going to be bc Hugo has given conflicting statements

First he laughed off "11 levels in the dlc" back June/July and now it's much larger than we ever anticipated

[fleet spruce]

We'll probably see some giant revelation

[frail bloom]

Like a cliffhanger?

[fleet spruce]

No , more so a reveal that will shatter a lot of our understanding of the series so far

[frail bloom]

So anything narrative wise

[warm ibex]

no

that was exaggeration that's been taken literally

[warm ibex]

I also think it's "like a sequel" in terms of combat

like how Eternal was an expansion of the 2016 combat loop. So the DLC combat will be a sizeable expansion of the campaign combat loop

not an actual sequel, but just something pretty large

[fleet spruce]

Definitely , pushing the formula to its limit before next game

[warm ibex]

yea that seems about right

[frail bloom]

Ye Ik you wouldn't think that

I assumed most people wouldn't but I'm always surprised

[west shale]

Anyone know when the Diablo 4 X Doom event starts?

[harsh egret]

just started an hr ago

[west shale]

That's what I thought but I just logged off it like 30 minutes ago and no event

[harsh egret]

i dont think theres any event tho, just the things u can unlock for free with currency that u earn and the cosmetics in the store

and they are there

[west shale]

Weird

[celest sun]

Dark Doom: The Ages

[alpine pilot]

where ages

[celest sun]

BELCH

[undone swift]

hello

am i a larp for playing only eternal and the dark ages

[keen oracle]

Wdym „larp“

[unkempt dragon]

No. You're playing the games, not pretending to play the games

[green estuary]

yes
shame on you for larping as doomguy instead of actually being doomguy

[undone swift]

hmmm peculiar

[solid beacon]

I actually have played diablo 3 game once on xbox 360.

[prisma magnet]

is diablo even good

[unkempt dragon]

discuss in #general

[frosty roost]

was the stream tonight or no?

[green estuary]

should be tomorrow

[obsidian shard]

It's Thursdays

[frosty roost]

oh it just turned thursday, i'm boosted lmfao

[stuck basalt]

it did?

[harsh egret]

ye its technically today lol, and unless I'm completely wrong it's also gonna be an hour earlier than usual for us in europe

[unkempt dragon]

It's Wednesday today for us in the US

[final dune]

so why does the witch want just one old one back

even tho theres a few of em

is there something im missing

[green estuary]

the three guarding doomguy are lesser beings

whereas the old one himself is essentially a god of the cosmic realm ig

[elder raven]

the old one that we fight, like katsu said, is probably the strongest of the starspawn. maybe he was the first of his species, maybe he was simply the most powerful. whatever the reason, he was likely the one who kept the cosmic realm alive or at least in a healthy state. without him… well, its likely another jekkad situation, which makes me think

@young schooner was the old one’s total isolation from the cosmic realm for a long period of time (also accounting for likely time dilations within the cosmic realm) a reason for its decline and hypothetical consumption by hell’s forces? could it be possible that when gods are away from their realm for far too long, they tend to stray away from their path.(ex. the father and urdak) answer in codex though

[final dune]

is there any other more cosmic realm lore that hugo said too

[unkempt dragon]

Ask these things in #the-codex

[inner wigeon]

Is there any particular reason I don’t have access to grenade launcher or accelerator upgrades in the ripatorium

[meager bison]

I wish we could use the assault rifle that the sentinels use in the campaign. Or had a sentinel skin for the slayer of the knight looking set.

The sentinel rifle would be redundant but cool looking and I've always loved the sentinel armor from 2016s multiplayer

[obsidian shard]

The Lightning Gun

They use the Lightning Gun

I believe it's In The 2016 multiplayer

[meager bison]

Yeah I knew it looked familiar. The guns in dark ages are cool, but I wish we had a regular rifle too like the NPCs have. Lightning gun was fun in 2016, but I like how it's just a standard/energy/plasma rifle in dark ages

[dusty nova]

I finally got doom the dark ages on my ps5

[quasi abyss]

Beat nightmare but rebeating eternal then ill get ultranightmare

[solar cairn]

https://x.com/tubbz_official/status/2031389143649992948?s=46

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[random sand]

doom duck

[wide siren]

doom quacker

[stone pasture]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-a-bucket-team-fortress-tf-gif-15812649