the-dark-ages

[elder raven]

i brought this point up a while ago; if they do a flashback level and they include human characters, they dont even have to try. all they need to do is make clothing models and textures because they already have models for pretty realistic looking humans through the sentinel people we see in places like khalim

[frail bloom]

Share smt abt the enviroment, we know nothing specific except the frozen hell art

[supple oracle]

The thing about the doom slayer kill demons because they kill his bunny pet, that baloney, especially when they kinda reveal what the slayer lost in eternal

[harsh egret]

Like atp I dont even know what else they can tease lore wise for one dlc lol cuz they've done so many already

[frail bloom]

They should lay off the story stuff

I'd say either stop or do smt small, like enviromental

Or a new enemy and then lay off for a couple weeks

[fleet spruce]

and Doom 4 with its assets lying somewhere on dusty HDDs for a Hell on Earth flashback....

[wide siren]

how are they going to top the two marauders trolling from the tag 1 trailer. have a hundred agaddon hunters at once?

[frail bloom]

Two archies duh

Or 4 cosmic barons

[supple oracle]

Bring back the marauders and put them in TDA, and fight two of them again 🙂

[frail bloom]

That part ain't possible

[wide siren]

i've already played that lol

wait, three is a maximum in ripatorium right? guess i haven't then

[frail bloom]

Ah but has the casual audience?

[frail bloom]

Also yes it's only 3

[green estuary]

3 cosmic barons are honestly harder to deal with than 3 marauders

you can just run away from the marauders and restack but the barons are insanely aggressive

[obsidian shard]

100 Cyberdemons

[wide siren]

prepare to get peppered

[obsidian shard]

Or flying

[spark elm]

This summer I will potentially give pandemonium a try

And I will most likely adjust settings around if needed, same with UN

Final Battle will absolutely be one of the bigger hurdles on each difficulty.

So adjust settings if necessary.

[alpine pilot]

where doom

[obsidian shard]

How Polech

[frosty roost]

hello jay ❤️

[obsidian shard]

Howdy Marshal! How ya doing twin? 🫀

[frosty roost]

I'm gooood, been playing re1r for the first time and now i'm chilling!

might be replaying tda later for the pandaemonium skin

[obsidian shard]

Hell yeah, Hope you're having fun!

[hazy pasture]

Greetings fellas

[frosty roost]

hiya doc!

[errant osprey]

I don't think they'll show the trailer during the livestream, but maybe they can show some pictures.

[obsidian shard]

Perhaps a teaser

[spark elm]

What was the pandemonium skin again? Reverent or something like that?

[obsidian shard]

I believe so ya

One of the best looking skins in the game imo

Nightmare is for beating the game
Gold is for UN (Serrat and Atlan get Gold too)

[spark elm]

Oh they do??? That’s sick!!!

[obsidian shard]

So Serrat and the Atlan get 3 skins in total!

• Standard
• Divinity
• Gold

[hazy pasture]

Greetings Marshal

[spark elm]

Divinity skins are cool though, I maaaay stick to those

[hazy pasture]

I wonder if we're gonna see Doomguy's family in the DLC flashbacks since Daisy's coming back

[hazy pasture]

Very likely but hopefully soon enough

[spark elm]

Interesting that when I reinstalled this game my saves were still there, but non-modified ultra violence or nightmare appeared. Nice.

I’m 100% modifying my pandemonium and ultra nightmares.

[errant osprey]

Maybe a 30 second teaser
and maybe the official DLC poster.
But I don't think they'll show the official DLC poster because it might spoil some things.

[spark elm]

I worry about Final Battle on Nightmare and above. Yes I’ve completed regular nightmare.

[hazy pasture]

They'll reveal the poster after the trailer reveal

Imo

[errant osprey]

If they release a short teaser, I don't think they'll release the poster, but I think they'll release the poster after the main trailer is released.

[hazy pasture]

Yeah

[round ridge]

when i try to play the ripatorium i can't use any guns except for the combat shotgun and i can't melee or throw my shield is that normal

[spark elm]

I will not let Enhanced Ahzrak ruin the runs.

So Final Battle/Reckoning will 100% be adjusted.

[round ridge]

i think my game has been bugged since yesterday can someone help

[spark elm]

Jeez, I may even adjust Kreed on Resurrection before FB/Reckoning. Really don’t wanna fail!

[odd finch]

i finished the campaign in 14,8 hours lol

this was awesome

[spark elm]

Awesome! What difficulty?

[odd finch]

easiest

[spark elm]

Any difficulty is good!

I wasn’t that experienced with doom, but I managed to do this one on Ultra Violence with changed settings.

[odd finch]

yeah ill have to try that at some point

[spark elm]

Some time later I ran again on Nightmare. An armor glitch caused me to run again.

But I like this game, so it wasn’t a problem.

[errant osprey]

One thing that came to mind about the DLC is this
I think we'll see more of the DLC in the next month or so.
My idea is that the DLC will be released in May, so we'll see concept art and maybe a short teaser in March.
They need to start doing this visually to market this DLC.

[obsidian shard]

I just want FULL Confirmation that Finishing Move is Back on the Soundtrack 😭

[errant osprey]

I think they'll come back to make the DLC music.
The DLC should be released sooner because it's in IDSoft's best interest.
Since more content is going to be released after the DLC, like Master Levels, the release of the DLC will bring Dark Ages back to its former glory.

[obsidian shard]

Oh for sure, Especially with things FM and members have posted!

[errant osprey]

Especially if the rumored Master Campaign is real and released after the DLC, it would be great.
In addition to adding DLC ​​features to the Repitarium.
But what is characteristic is that idsoftware does not want to take risks with this DLC, but my guess is that the DLC is almost finished and only corrections and improvements are left, which will take about 2-3 months.

[spark elm]

Imagine a city of ry’uul master level.

[obsidian shard]

I have full bets on a Master Campaign, Since Just Ripatorium and DLC are great, but the More the Merrier

[harsh egret]

yeah from the sounds of it, the dlc is in its polishing phase

[obsidian shard]

Ye

[errant osprey]

Yes, since Hugo himself has said several times that he has experienced the DLC and also the information he provides about the story, it seems to be completed and only the final polishing remains. However, this polishing and improvement will take time, but less than 3 months.

[spark elm]

Some master levels would be crazy actually. Abyssal Forest? Forsaken Plains? Temple of Lomarith?

[errant osprey]

The Master Campaign will be amazing.

[obsidian shard]

Khalim is Practically Confirmed (Game files)

[spark elm]

Oh interesting.

[errant osprey]

I hope so.

[obsidian shard]

Whats crackin Girlyband

[obsidian shard]

My most hyped thing is FM on OST,

[marble tulip]

Releasing a game that's just a teaser isn't good, especially when it's being sold as an entry point to the Slayer saga

[errant osprey]

But if the DLC is going to be released in 3 months, they should start marketing it visually. For example, they could show concept art or screenshots of the DLC stages.

[spark elm]

I can see the master level having no ambient and all combat

[marble tulip]

They already showed one a while ago

[obsidian shard]

Letting the Light combat shine would be awesome (of course the Heavy combat too but that's a given)

[marble tulip]

Hellish snow

[obsidian shard]

That was Juneish I believe

[errant osprey]

That picture was from about 5 months ago
We need more pictures

[versed quarry]

It wasn't just a teaser though.

[obsidian shard]

7-8 Months ago....

[spark elm]

I like how cosmic sea is ambient and a light combat track

[errant osprey]

And my idea is that when Daisy returns, we'll have a flashback to Slayer's past and see him get killed. And maybe we'll play the first level of Doom 1.

[obsidian shard]

Onslaught of the Damned is as well, same with Sentinel Barracks (tho I may be wrong about the Latter)

[frail bloom]

Calling it a teaser is an over-simplification first of all, second of all, I appreciate they went the original route in a sea of prequels that bog down events mentioned in the originals

[errant osprey]

And I'm really looking forward to Live Hugo. I think we might see a picture of the DLC this week.

[frail bloom]

Bc they went this route, not one event was ruined or dissapointing bc they tried making an original vignette, and now that they have feedback they can start expirementing with original plot points while pushing the story forward

[harsh egret]

just dont have any expectations cuz he said they might show more ever since the first one

[obsidian shard]

Stream Cancelled due to Dice awards and we didn't win anything.... Bruh

[frail bloom]

Ppl tend to forget that it's better to have smt be left alone than to be ruined

If id isn't ready, they aren't ready

[warm ibex]

that's a bit contradictory, no?

[errant osprey]

I look forward to Hugo's live broadcasts every week, his words and streams.
Maybe nothing will be shown, but I can hope that it will happen.
Maybe it will happen next week.

[marble tulip]

The devs go there not knowing if they won or lost, right? I hope they get some compensation for wasting their time lol

[obsidian shard]

Thursday doesn't feel the same without em lol

[warm ibex]

It's a great entrypoint because it's at the beginning of the Slayer saga. If it were to start in the middle of the Sentinel story or even at some point later in the testaments, then the "entrypoint to the slayer saga" selling point would be a blatant lie since it takes place years into the saga

[errant osprey]

yes

[obsidian shard]

The speech about Vince was really nice (Rest In Peace)

but The Commentary the Presenters were giving about the current state of gaming felt really REALLY weird and Forced was really weird and Corny I guess

[harsh egret]

yeah it was really bad lol

[versed quarry]

Wait what happened?

[marble tulip]

Actually, we're in the middle of the time skip at some point within the battles won by the Slayer

Apparently a few years later

[frail bloom]

Hm?

[warm ibex]

I'm not really sure what you mean here. what time skip?

[frail bloom]

It is basically post divinity machine

But like right after

They skipped the pre divinity stuff for a reason

So it is basically the start of the Slayer's saga

[warm ibex]

Yeah, TDA presumably takes not long after his divinity machine enhancement, which is why he's controlled by the Maykrs

[frail bloom]

It's the Slayer's

Not Doomguy

Makes sense to me

[obsidian shard]

Dice awards was Thursday so stream was cancelled,

Vince was the founder of Respawn and had a Huge impact on Gaming (COD, Titanfall, Battlefield) just a beast, passed away last year in a Car accident from speeding out of a Tunnel

[versed quarry]

OH

[obsidian shard]

Ye

[obsidian shard]

Also based on Current lore, is it safe to assume Ahzrak was commanding the Horde all the way when DOOMGuy got to Argent D'Nur, so the titan was also part of Ahzraks army?

[frail bloom]

Eh no

Not really

He was an upcoming prince trying to prove his worth

I assume he was leader for like a really short while

[versed quarry]

It's possible, but there's nothing definitive.

[warm ibex]

It never establishes exactly when he took leadership though, so it's not impossible that Ahzrak led the attack on Taras Nabad

[frail bloom]

Oh I thought you meant Classic doom I misread

Ye it's possible

[warm ibex]

lol

[obsidian shard]

Ye, too me it makes sense

-# Ahzrak Statue When?

[versed quarry]

Although, it is noted that Ahzrak is one the first rulers of Hell to use more cunning tactics such as manipulation, and the Sentinels suspected "treason" when the Dreadnought passed through the portal during the attack on Taras Nabad, because they were caught so off guard and there was no warning.

[errant osprey]

By the way, what name would you guys choose for the Dark Ages DLC? And how many stages do you think it will have?

[obsidian shard]

6-8 Longer levels

[errant osprey]

Do you think the Atalan sections still exist?

[obsidian shard]

No idea, I think it'll just be Slayer Combat only

[errant osprey]

I think 7 stages would be great

I would love to see the cosmic realm again, plus a stage or two from the lands of Argent.

Another idea is to go back to Earth, but I don't know how, maybe in a flashback

[marble tulip]

According to Hugo, he presented a plan to defeat the Slayer to the council, and they gave him permission, so he was there after the Slayer

[obsidian shard]

Cosmic Realm got a "interesting..." comment from Hugo

As well as some Stuff I was told from people who went to Qcon

[errant osprey]

When Hugo says interesting, he almost confirms it lol
What did they tell you?

[frail bloom]

So did Nekravol discovery

[marble tulip]

I expect at least 12 levels

And atlan sections in the middle of the levels, not the entire levels in the atlan of the base game

[frail bloom]

Ah here we go

Not happening, just so you know

[errant osprey]

12 stages is too much
It doesn't seem like that much.

[slender night]

I'll take 8. Cool callback and a solid amount

[frail bloom]

It's less than 11 is all we officially know

[marble tulip]

Take it or leave it

[frail bloom]

Agreed

[harsh egret]

[frail bloom]

Tell that to Hugo

[harsh egret]

me when i lie

[frail bloom]

Lmao

Tell that to Hugo

[marble tulip]

Why Hugo...

-idk

[frail bloom]

He said so himself

[harsh egret]

he didnt confirm "under 11 levels"

[frail bloom]

"11 seems like a bit too much" or smt like that

[errant osprey]

What do you think, Hato?
How many stages do you think?

[frail bloom]

Oh my god bruh you still doing this

[harsh egret]

i am literally right

[frail bloom]

It's obv less than 11

You can't interpret it as anything else

[harsh egret]

lol

[frail bloom]

Are you trying to ragebait me

[harsh egret]

no

[frail bloom]

You sly dog

[marble tulip]

"no"

[errant osprey]

Maximum 8 missions

[frail bloom]

Ye I'd go with 8

[harsh egret]

if u tell me where he specifically confirmed it wont have 11 then ill believe u

[frail bloom]

Oh my god bruh

Ok tell me this, what does this mean to you

[harsh egret]

im just tryina make it so ppl dont expect smth else, it can be 11, it can be more, it can be less too yes

[frail bloom]

laughs "11 is too much, that's like half a campaign"

-Hugo

[harsh egret]

[frail bloom]

You are ragebaiting me

You gotta be

[harsh egret]

i swear to u i am not

we had this convo before so im literally not

[errant osprey]

I remember someone asked Hugo on stream that the DLC had about 11 levels and he said no, that's too many.

[harsh egret]

anyways u believe what u want

he didnt say no 😭

[frail bloom]

So Hato

That's another way of saying no

Sorry to tell you

[harsh egret]

u wont convince me thats the thing

[frail bloom]

I'm gonna bash my head lmao

[harsh egret]

[marble tulip]

It seems... that it's to much, like half a campaign but not impossible to do

[frail bloom]

If 11 is too much it's too much

[harsh egret]

do u remember what stream it was

im very curious to take a look at it again

[marble tulip]

But it's not a no

[slender night]

11 levels with like 5 minutes of play time each

[frail bloom]

@warm ibex sorry for bothering you but I want this convo laid to rest bc it's been circulating for a little too long

[harsh egret]

im just tryina check again to see if im wrong lol

[frail bloom]

What stream, did Hugo say 11 levels was too much

Bc it was a couple weeks after game launch I remember

[errant osprey]

I also remember him saying in a stream that 11 steps is too much.

[frail bloom]

Too much steps for slayer bro😞

[harsh egret]

im totally fine with being wrong, we are just interpreting things differently but the fact that he never confirmed or denied it is true

[frail bloom]

I'm Joshing

[frail bloom]

But it's implied, heavily

[hazy pasture]

I don't really think there's gonna be 11 levels in the DLC. My best bet is 8

[frail bloom]

And you know it

You know full well

[harsh egret]

and master campaign isnt heavily implied?

[marble tulip]

Doom fans tend to ignore the implications unless it's explicitly stated

[frail bloom]

I'd say so

[marble tulip]

[frail bloom]

Not confirmed but maybe implied sorta

[errant osprey]

Well, it's called DLC, not a full game. If it's 11 levels, it'll take a long time to build and develop, and the DLC won't be released for another 6 months.

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-laughing-meme-gif-8665530932329511839

[harsh egret]

lmao

[frail bloom]

Ik Horde I'm sorry I brought you here

[marble tulip]

Like Mon0 and the primeval Slayer~

But don't tell him I said this

[frail bloom]

My deepest apologies

[marble tulip]

[frail bloom]

So where's this stream

[slender night]

No M0no slander on my watch

#the-codex is down the hall and to the left

[frail bloom]

Tell em gnome

[hazy pasture]

Gnome

[marble tulip]

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/burglin-gnomes-gnome-run-garden-gnome-run-away-gif-8266495356131074438

Gnome boutta educate us on Rayman

[slender night]

what...

[hazy pasture]

Rayman...mmm

[frail bloom]

When did the first Rayman release

[slender night]

1/9/95

[frail bloom]

Education😤 💪

See educating

Anyways Hato you wrong

Rong rong rong

[harsh egret]

give me the stream bruh

[frail bloom]

I don't know which one bruh

Ik it exists

[obsidian shard]

Bad news guys, I won't be going to QuakeCon

Some Financial stuff came up, Next year tho!

[harsh egret]

Ah fuckk

Rip man that sucks

[obsidian shard]

Ya, It is what it is tho

[errant osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/live/hgRsR1KgYhc?si=L89nT2PK7WkYoVIF
Take a look at 1:17:30.

[warm ibex]

actually so clutch holy shit

generational pull

[harsh egret]

well, its pretty much the same as what I remember. doesnt change my opinion. either way, ill stop talking about this from now

[errant osprey]

I remembered Hugo answering this question and I remembered him answering it in Holy City of Aratum.

[harsh egret]

i was going around looking on the ch 6 stream lol

[errant osprey]

His reaction to 11 stages was really too much
So I assume that we will have less than 11 stages and a maximum of 8 stages.
Since it will have a Metroidvania style, it will take a relatively good amount of time to complete these stages.

[harsh egret]

could very well be below 11 and be longer levels too, yes

[errant osprey]

Yeah, I agree. 6 relatively large missions and 2 relatively short missions would be appropriate.

[harsh egret]

but idk why im crazy for thinking we are getting at least half of the base campaign worth of content in the dlc when eternal nearly did it during covid 😅

[errant osprey]

Well, if you want to be precise, the DLC stages were almost short stages, and now idSoftware made the stages relatively wider and larger in Dark Ages, so creating 11 relatively large stages would be a time-consuming task, and well, they don't want to ruin the hype of the players by releasing them later.

[harsh egret]

most of the dlc levels were pretty big too

and levels take shorter amount of time to make now

[errant osprey]

The World Spear, Blood Swamp, and UAC Atlantic stages were big, but the other 3 were a bit shorter.

Look, I personally would like it to be 11 levels because we only have one DLC, but I don't think it's that many, although the more the better.

[solar spoke]

I'd sell a kidney to get to quakecon ngl

(not really but I really wanna go)

[wintry forge]

Start saving for next year!

[obsidian shard]

its ok, we still love you Goat

[maiden onyx]

GAU-8 Avenger

[frail bloom]

That's what I'm saying bruh

Length doesn't matter but it takes a lot to make 11 unique enviroments

[pallid crystal]

Sup guys just recently finished dark ages, bout to grind eternal, loving it!

[willow beacon]

Two great games, have fun with eternal!

[green estuary]

yk what
I don't take back what I've said about how jank komodos are, but I at least appreciate them more now

coolest AI in the game I think

[fading bone]

this is absolutely true lol you have to be a special kind of someone to enjoy the masochism that is speedrunning

kovak is pretty chill tho

[green estuary]

komodos might be the only AI in the game that you can't just straight up bully, and I respect that

[fading bone]

in what way?

[green estuary]

well every other enemy you can either dance around with ease because you're fast as fuck and they're not, or you can just beat the crap out of them from point blank range

komodos are the only AI that really force you to respect them because of how agile and unpredictable they are

barons come close, and with my mod I'd say they also fit the bill, but in the base game I don't think they're much to write home about unless you start sending multiple at once

[fading bone]

i feel like you still can bully komodos since theres a lot of moments where they arent actually a real threat (sending out their green attacks) and you can just mash them with melee

but i see what you mean

[green estuary]

tbh I don't find their melee attacks to be all that non-threatening
the parry window is a little tricky plus his tail swipe can come out with very little tell

[stark shoal]

this has probably been asked 100 times, but I am new to DOOM and on the first mission i get stuck: After killing all the zombies and going back a couple of times to make sure I did not miss anyone (no music, minimap shows green checkmark) when I climb the wall there is nothing but rocks and unclimbable / non -jumbable walls. No entrance with wood barricades

[green estuary]

I'd recommend just looking up a walkthrough video on YT if you're stuck

[stark shoal]

i will look again. the walkthroughs I've seen start after you are already in the church

thanks]

[fading bone]

is this after like the first encounter?

where it says to kill 15 enemies?'

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/druski-shrug-idk-iono-hands-up-gif-7122581203490458147

turret might be a bit too bullshitty for me

i like them but the turret is crazy and imo that should have been the thing we can disable instead of the graviton fist

[fading bone]

the turret is extremely annoying

[green estuary]

me when I realize the turret's fireballs actually have tracking

it's not enough to make them noticeably curve in the air, but it's enough to make them a bitch to dodge

[maiden onyx]

Their soundtrack is just as goated. I feel like I’m fighting in the jungle or smtg

[onyx mica]

https://tenor.com/view/blade-runner2049-blade-runner-angry-god-damnit-confused-gif-15118091

Reflecting on that time with my fight with Ahzrak

So much was lost 💔

[mellow locust]

Why is this game still having freezing issues 😭

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/i-don't-know-idk-idk-about-that-gif-7336250873949261946

legit don't think I've ever had a single frame drop in an id tech game lol

[fleet spruce]

same

and i play on subpar hardware

[fading bone]

ive had a decent amount of crashes/game freezes with TDA

[marble tulip]

Do you remember the phrase "you have to earn your power fantasy, we're not going to give it to you anymore"?
Something like that is the phrase Hugo used when talking about Eternal, does that phrase still apply to Doom: The Dark Ages?

Because TDA is simply more...I don't know, you're more powerful than ever

[fading bone]

they def give you the power fantasy in TDA

[slender night]

I feel like it's a better one in TDA

Cuz in Eternal to convince you that you are strong they had a woman lose her mind over researching you, for some reason??? And then in TDA they have people threatened by your mere presence, and that's cooler. And you're actually defeatable this time which raises stakes for the plot

[green estuary]

I didn’t really find that the power fantasy was any less earned in TDA
Obviously the game is designed to make you “feel” more powerful in making all your movements and stuff have weight

[marble tulip]

That happens in both games

[slender night]

No yeah but in Eternal they are shocked while in TDA they are horrified

[fading bone]

idk they seem pretty horrified in eternal as well

they literally run away from you

that guy you walk up to and drag the security card from his neck looked like he was about to have a heart attack

[slender night]

We were pulling at his neck after all. I do get that they were all scrambling but it didn't feel like the same level of fear as in TDA. But it has been a bit so I might be misremembering

[fading bone]

i feel like its the opposite. sure you hear some murmurs in TDA of ppl saying dont get close to him or keep your distance whatever, but you dont really have people running away from you like they did in eternal

and most of the main cast of the game is just willingly by your side or accepting your help fearlessly

even all the regular sentinel soldiers

that whole walking montage at the beginning of mars core in eternal has you feeling like a total badass and everyone was scared shitless

then there was that one soldier guarding the BFG crashing out on the radio saying youre about to be there

[slender night]

You're right actually

The second point still stands then

The power fantasy felt richer to me when it's not the fantasy of being straight up immortal in the narrative. Basically nothing happened to the Slayer in Eternal, he walked in fine and came out fine

[fading bone]

so youre saying you like that theres stakes in TDA and he feels more vulnerable?

[slender night]

Yes

[fading bone]

yeah i dont disagree. since thats what makes for a better narrative overall

but i also love the pure invulnerable aura that the slayer has in eternal as well

eternal is just one giant slayer montage for me. i just want to see him doing badass shit and aura farming on everyone

and it does a very good job of that

[marble tulip]

https://youtu.be/AIVIa1-z2HY?si=NEhq84_D01qPRMmd

I don't remember sending it before, so I'm sending it now, peak montage

[maiden onyx]

One of the other cool parts of the narrative was the difference in attitude.

Dark ages slayer kind of takes his time with his movement and actions. A slow dramatic walk to some enemies / for objectives

In eternal he’s wasting no time with executing the deags before they can even speak. Among other things like firing himself with cannons to save time.

[dark thunder]

Doom

[warm ibex]

well said

[wide siren]

eternal slayer got places to be

tda slayer is just aura farming

[fading bone]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-hello-chat-here's-johnny-doom-slayer-doom-marine-gif-6132403173794421933

[whole fulcrum]

Quick question: during the final boss, || can Ahzrak be defeated first, or is it scripted that The Witch has to be defeated first ||?

[harsh egret]

it is scripted like that yes

[marble tulip]

Another month without DLC

[earnest cypress]

Hello guys

[frosty pine]

Highkey I wish she was her own boss

[errant osprey]

Coming soon

[marble tulip]

Fighting Ahzrak in phase 2-3 is satisfying hearing him complain get angry after hearing his mocking laughter is...

https://tenor.com/lzwBzT96F3a.gif

I even think I ended up unconsciously imitating his laugh while I was spanking his ass

[ocean ore]

yeah honestly all of the fights were satisfying

i wanted to kill that dude the entire damn game. and the bishop kreed makyr. they built up to it well.

[frail bloom]

Day 6 of asking for mayker drones and lost souls in the ripatorium

[marble tulip]

No

[frail bloom]

Yes.

[marble tulip]

No

[frail bloom]

Yes

[random sand]

i was about to ask "why the hell do you want them there" but then the thought of a shitton of lost souls jumping you came to me and it looked really funny so ykw i get it

[frosty roost]

need mini-bosses in ripatorium too, would be badass

[thin hound]

“Fall. . . Beast”

[frail bloom]

I want to make a classic doom preset

And the lost souls look classicy

I need them

[random sand]

why the maykr drones then?

[frail bloom]

For a different preset. They're bullet hell ish and I wanna mix the ai with the other ai

[slender night]

So they get more than 2 minutes of screentime across the entire NuDOOM series

[frail bloom]

Yup

[random sand]

they wouldn't be getting much more with how quickly they die. let's be honest here 😭

[slender night]

Then we just make the Ripatorium round infinite

[frail bloom]

They take away attention

[random sand]

infinite shield throwing. i suppose

[frail bloom]

So if you have multiple demons

[marble tulip]

What does nu doom mean?

[slender night]

New DOOM

[frail bloom]

You gotta be wary

[marble tulip]

Ok

[random sand]

i would look at them the same way i look at zombies

[marble tulip]

[thin hound]

What if you could limit which weapons are used in Ripatorium, like make a challenge without the shieldsaw upgrade?

[frail bloom]

Ye but the souls can blow your shield up

Anc they're way faster

[random sand]

all i want is to be able to fill the limit with whatever demon i want. 20 cyberdemons for example

[frail bloom]

Sounds fair

[slender night]

I did a limited weapon run on accident because this is a Very Balanced Video Game™ and gave me no reason to use more than three weapons up until E. Ahzrak

[random sand]

one shot from any weapon and they die tho. including rapid fire ones. would be funny tho

[frail bloom]

Ik dude ik but in the campaign they don't throw you off as much compared to what you can do in the ripatorium

They're problematic when you can't focus on them

[random sand]

i've done a whole run using nothing but the combat and super shotgun (and shield saw if that counts) and it works quite well. it's fun tho so idrc

[frail bloom]

Ye all of the weapons work I'd say that's well balanced

[slender night]

I don't even know what any of the plasma weapons do because I only used like the shotgun, super shotgun and the first shredder the entire game

[slender night]

That's the thing, you can pick one and comfortably run through the entire game with it, that isn't balance

I love the game, it's my favorite DOOM, but I wish the weapons had more incentive to use

[frail bloom]

All of them are like that

[random sand]

the plasma weapons are really good i'd say. i use them often. the cycler spreads electricity to every demon near it and makes 'em all explode. the accelerator shoots fast and accurate and it has the eternal plasma gun's upgrade of shooting a heat blast at the enemy that does a decent amount of damage

[frail bloom]

Every weapon, and ppl choose different weapons

[slender night]

"Them" being the weapons?

[frail bloom]

Ask what someone mains, it's always a different weapon

[frail bloom]

Ye

[slender night]

Well yeah... that's the point...

All of them are so strong that you only need one for the game

[frail bloom]

Which is much better than smt like 2016 where only a couple are good and the rest are worthless

[slender night]

It is but both are examples of being unbalanced

[frail bloom]

Idk then incorporate different weapon usage

[slender night]

DOOM 1 had a good strong use for every weapon and all of them also had weak points

[frail bloom]

You do know that using different weapons is still beneficial

[slender night]

The game didn't really outline that for me then I suppose

The only times I used the plasmas was for the metal parts and the only times I used the chainshot or rocket launcher was for Enhanced Ahzrak

[frail bloom]

It doesn't have to, and I like that abt it idk. It doesn't handhold you into having your fun and trying out new things, you figure that stuff out on your own. It's not perfectly balanced but if you find that using a couple weapons is stale, then switch it up, they all work

[slender night]

I get that, that is a valid stance

I just personally wish it'd make me use every bit of my arsenal to win. Being able to do most of it with just the SSG is a bit underwhelming (and yes I know I can switch to other weapons but that doesn't really change the actual game design here)

[frail bloom]

That's fair

[fervent maple]

It's not helped by weapon switching being somewhat penalized, especially in earlier versions of the game. The shield being put away while switching and the animations being uninterruptible back then gave the impressions that you shouldn't be switching weapons.

That's been considerably lessened nowadays, but vestiges of that still remain - enough that I'd still say switching weapons is comparatively discouraged when taking the other games into account. Every weapon deals enough damage to get you through the entire game and is good enough to, in most cases, never leave you feeling like you made a bad choice.

That's just how the game is. It's more of a sandbox this time around. Everything feels based on positive feedback loops instead of overt management like the other games and that's pretty neat.

[devout zinc]

hi people.

clarify something for me, is dark ages DLC out or no? on steam I see a premium upgrade page, but no buy button. but it says it was release in may 2025?

[unkempt dragon]

no

[devout zinc]

ty

[unkempt dragon]

You'll know when it comes out:)

[elder raven]

its coming rn

on route to your home

[fleet spruce]

damn, here i thought it was coming to my household

[tacit nova]

Yo wsp

[solid nacelle]

It's taking turns going to everyone's houses. Only one person gets to play it at a time

[wide siren]

and hugo will watch over your shoulder the whole time you play

[raven heart]

Man I gotta tell ya.

That DLC was good

[alpine pilot]

where doom

[harsh egret]

[tender vessel]

My son has asked me to see what anyone might like him to draw from The Dark Ages that I can post for him in #artwork . Any ideas?

[elder raven]

cosmic cacodemon

[tender vessel]

Okay he said he’ll do it. Wants to know if anyone wants it colored or black and white?

[obsidian shard]

Anything is fine!

[worldly oriole]

We going to have Good guy Maykrs right?

[chilly zodiac]

That's so cute

[maiden onyx]

Unfathomable

[elder raven]

bro we’re in the soul factories in nekravol

on a more serious note i think that the maykrs were originally a benevolent, well meaning species, but davoth’s whispers of a great one who will destroy the maykrs + the pact likely ‘poisoned’ the hivemind as the khan maykr was slowly corrupted. thats how i remember it in lore, but i might be wrong, but this is a conversation for #the-codex

[wintry forge]

Seeing as the Seraphs/ Samur appeared loyal to the Father’s cause, regardless of the Kahn’s mission, I always thought this as well

[tender vessel]

He’s finished with it. I have to take a picture of it. Did it so darn fast.

[tender vessel]

@obsidian shard @chilly zodiac in #artwork

[frail bloom]

Generational artwork

[tender vessel]

He caught the bug early.

[green estuary]

I gotta glaze enhanced ahzrak a little more

he seriously might be the best boss I've ever fought in an fps game

[potent parcel]

all the ahzrahk fights were really good

[willow beacon]

I replayed the first few levels of TDA and idk how I beat him on those sliders, I need to lock in to beat the game on that again

[willow beacon]

Honestly that’s valid

[potent parcel]

for the first Doom endboss to, like, weigh in at less than the slayer, his ferocity really delivers 😛

you can't get much more contrast than going from the Icon of Sin to him 😄

[fleet spruce]

his boss themes are really powerful too

completes the experience

[green estuary]

same lol
I UNed the game on sliders that I get absolutely toasted by now

I feel like eternal is hard to relearn but I guess so is this game

[willow beacon]

I can’t even imagine UNing it on any custom sliders

What sliders did you UN it on?

[green estuary]

300% damage, min parry, no slow mo but normal game speed
plus I was messing around with a difficulty selection mod I made so I had the projectile speed slightly cranked up
default is 100%, then the next two slots are 150% and 200%--I had it set to 125%

[willow beacon]

Gang what 300%

I would explode if I tried that

[fading bone]

whats the default nightmare damage

[green estuary]

tbh ground fissure makes it much more manageable

[willow beacon]

250

[fading bone]

ah ok

[green estuary]

it helps that the game difficulty curve is fairly gradual, so there aren't any crazy difficulty spikes

although the run is loooong af

[fading bone]

yeah i timed myself doing just a normal nightmare run just restarting from checkpoint if i ever died and i did it in 5:13:00

ive tried doing UN and it's just not enjoyable resetting in such a long game

[dusky zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-eternal-goose-peace-was-never-any-option-gif-16563148593469228887

[green estuary]

it does help that none of my resets came in the final third of the game

[fading bone]

i mean even then if it did for me (which it didnt) just playing the same few opening missions over and over is not a fun experience

[green estuary]

like if I had choked against enhanced ahzrak (which I very nearly did) I would've felt very differently about the run

[fading bone]

i like playing the late game so why would i keep myself from that

i did choke a few times vs enhanced asscrack in my pandemonium runs and that was enough pain lol

[green estuary]

hmmm I might turn off falter/daze rings for my next playthrough

[tacit onyx]

the step up in fidelity and presentation from the previous games to this one is just insane, man. I adore the previous games and their art styles and presentations and TDA is no different, this game is so damn pretty (when I can get a satisfying framerate, that is)

[grave cave]

So spoilers for carmageddon rogue shift
|| THEY GOT THE FUKN BFG ||

[stable idol]

yo does dark ages have any bugged achievements

[random sand]

It shouldn't. I've gotten them all. Why? Having trouble with one?

[fading bone]

there are some that are known to be bugged yes

like the codex one and some of the leader ones

[slender night]

I got them all painlessly back during my first playthrough in November

[random sand]

Think i got 'em around the week the game released

[stable idol]

how do i collect sigils if i have maximum in slot

[random sand]

You don't

[stable idol]

how do i count them towards the secrets i mean

[random sand]

They don't count towards 100% progression. You just have to go to where they are

[fading bone]

you just go in the area and itll say secret found

if they count as a secret

[stable idol]

weird

doesnt say it for me

or maybe i didnt notice

[random sand]

Some of them don't say it. Some do

[stable idol]

ill see about it

[fading bone]

yeah some sigils arent secrets

but a few are and it'll pop up if it is

like the sigle on the very left of siege 1 hidden behind the 2 tanks counts as a secret

or the one in city of ryuul at the end of the water hallway past the shooting fire counts as one too

[silk moat]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-eternal-goose-peace-was-never-any-option-gif-16563148593469228887

[errant osprey]

Dark Ages really needs more content
I wish idsoft would add at least one master level to the game.
I really like the combat in the game but I need more challenge especially when I have my entire arsenal complete

[slender night]

I agree it needs more content, but we're only on update 3 right now, with a DLC on the way, so I'm confident we will get more content, and free of charge too. Considering it's id, I also think it's gonna be well worth the wait

[errant osprey]

It's worth the wait
I'm 170 hours into Dark Ages right now.
But I'm getting tired of the lack of content and maybe I'll just sit back and enjoy it until the updates come out.
I feel like the progress they're making is going too slowly.

[fading bone]

i mean theyre making a whole DLC thats going to be basically the size, if not larger, than both TAG1/TAG2

so there will be plenty of content once it drops

[errant osprey]

Yes, I think the DLC will be bigger than TAG 1 and 2, but I mean non-DLC content.
I know this DLC won't disappoint me and it's going to be really good.
But I want something other than the main campaign.
I still think the Reptarium is crap.

[harsh egret]

why is it crap

[errant osprey]

It's not crap, I mean, I think it's half-finished.
There's still a lot of work to be done, but if it gets better, it's really an interesting and wonderful part.
I think it needs more maps, and I also like to see a few things added to it.
For example, one idea I have is to change the location after a few rounds.
Or, for example, you only have one weapon at the beginning of each round, and at the end of the round, you choose between a new weapon, a shield rune, or a melee weapon.

But overall, it's an interesting section, but there's room for improvement.

[harsh egret]

personally i dont agree with that last idea but I get what ur saying

the ripatorium could use some extra features for sure

[errant osprey]

You know, this is my idea
Maybe you have a better idea.
But I mean, something should be added to make this part more interesting.

[harsh egret]

but they did warn us about less frequent updates while the dlc is in development a while ago so it's to be expected that we dont get much for now

[harsh egret]

the ripatorium isnt trying to be horde mode is what im saying

and imo i dont think it needs a horde mode as long as we get master levels/master campaign that hopefully bring more difficulty modifiers like eternal did

[errant osprey]

Yeah, I know. They want to have something different from the Eternal Horde.

[errant osprey]

You're almost right
It seems like there aren't many specific changes that can be made to the method.

[frosty roost]

would love new skins if they brought out more difficulties

[harsh egret]

i just want a few more weapon skins

[frosty roost]

like bloody skins would be dope

[harsh egret]

its the only skins i personally care about cuz its the skins that I actually see 80-90% of the time

[meager vortex]

yes they must add new map for ripatorium2.0

[marble tulip]

Now that Thira has the heart of Argent, it's time to start suspecting that the next Doom could have a female protagonist

[green estuary]

Not happening lol

[harsh egret]

been sayin that

[marble tulip]

Yes

[marble tulip]

Canon

[green estuary]

I mean if they want to lose a huge chunk of their playerbase, then I guess they could do that

It’s their decision I suppose

[marble tulip]

I know

[harsh egret]

yh obv they would never actually do that

[marble tulip]

I hate that

God, I hate men, they always ruin everything

[harsh egret]

[green estuary]

Lmao

[meager vortex]

besr comedy award pal

[marble tulip]

It's no joke, they have Thira who in the lore is already a Slayer 2.0

They can still make Doom about power fantasy

[harsh egret]

yh but doom is about the slayer

[green estuary]

ye after they've invested all this time into fleshing out doomguy's origin story, let's just completely switch the focus to another character who didn't even exist prior to this game

[marble tulip]

Doom is about killing demons

[meager vortex]

thira is just thira pal

[harsh egret]

not about a kinda poorly written female character

[harsh egret]

its one of the things, yes.

[green estuary]

make another series with a badass female protag, that's fine w me
but changing the focus of a doom game from doomguy to somebody completely new is not it

(reboot quake, id)

(crash is right there)

[marble tulip]

They still have the opportunity, though, when they finish (again) the Slayer saga, they can start again using Thira

[harsh egret]

yh just get hire new devs for a sub-studio or smth that makes spinoffs lol

[green estuary]

when they finish the doom story, I want them to actually branch out to their other IPs instead of diluting the franchise

[slender night]

Happened with the movies at least

[meager vortex]

nah not going happen pal

[marble tulip]

Crash betrayed and imprisoned in the Arena Eternal for 1 million years:

https://tenor.com/hQlEWNCgP38.gif

[meager vortex]

because that is fucked up plan doom real movie second failed

[slender night]

Yeah but it failed because it was an awful cheap movie

Having a female protagonist did not inherently cause it

[meager vortex]

and not a doomguy

[marble tulip]

They made soldiers ordinary soldiers, not killing machines that go 80 km/h and smash men with their bare hands

[meager vortex]

what ever is female doom slayer must failed

[slender night]

Groundedness is based

[meager vortex]

do not begging make a female doom slayer i will be triggered

https://tenor.com/view/triggered-nicolas-cage-meme-gif-8735308

doomguy is true powerful warrior and he killing demons on his away

[green estuary]

I don't think a doom game having a female protagonist is inherently a bad thing
like for example, if the game was from the point of view of ARC troops when the demonic invasion breaks out and doomguy is nowhere to be found, then that could work
but having someone like thira be the centerpoint of a doom game while doomguy is literally right there being purposefully being made a side piece in the story wouldn't sit right with the vast majority of franchise fans, myself included

[meager vortex]

oh come on! thira she just commander

but she kidnaped by ahzrack

she knew ahzrack make her power generator of argent of the heart

after rescue by slayer she said thanks for slayer

[marble tulip]

God, I hate men

[meager vortex]

outch! how?

[green estuary]

then leave
take your shit somewhere else

[thin hound]

Be nice

[marble tulip]

[meager vortex]

you hate men because doomguy not a doom girl? that is true comedy lmao

[marble tulip]

The boy is now making things up

[thin hound]

I want to have your back, but I’m really close to being banned already so I’m not going to say much

Just know I’m on your side

[marble tulip]

How the bro feels right now:

https://tenor.com/lZjBk1AwHHg.gif

[thin hound]

So true, the other day

[marble tulip]

One of the things I was hoping to see in TDA was to see the Slayer destroy a Titan with his super shotgun while he was falling from the sky

Kind of like in God of War when Kratos stabs a Titan with the Blade of Olympus while flying

[fleet spruce]

track record of franchises replacing male main character for female in recent years shows this not a wise business decision as well

[fading bone]

i mean doom is doom guy

making anyone else besides doom guy the main character will recieve incredible backlash

[harsh egret]

^

[fading bone]

people want to play doom because they want to be the slayer

[marble tulip]

In Doom 3 you are not the Doom Guy

[fading bone]

pretty sure you are?

[marble tulip]

Nop

[fading bone]

in an alternate universe

[frail bloom]

Day 7 of asking for mayker drones and lost souls for the ripatorium

[marble tulip]

They are different people.

[spark elm]

Marine

[fading bone]

• doom 3 is the least liked game of them all anyways so that doesnt really help your point

[marble tulip]

That would be the Martian warrior, the true alternate version of Doom Guy

They even look the same

[marble tulip]

And that guy's been dead for ages

[fading bone]

but anyways yeah doom 3 isnt exactly the pinnacle of the doom franchise so

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-the-dark-ages-doom-kreed-maykr-kreed-maykr-bishop-kreed-gif-13379644836210539524

[slender night]

There is an even better argument to be made here but you chose the worst one 🥀

[fading bone]

but now after 3 games of being the slayer no one wants to not be the slayer anymore

[slender night]

DOOM 3 does not count because it came out before the Slayer became a fleshed out character instead of a stand-in for the player. It's as shrimple as that

[fading bone]

i mean theres still doom guy from the original dooms

[frail bloom]

Doom 3 sold well and I'm pretty sure most ppl liked it until the nu doom fans arrived

I could be wrong

Also I worded it weird

When nu Doom wss a thing, a lot of new fans offered their perspective on Doom 3

[obsidian shard]

Highest sold doom game of its time

[frail bloom]

Ye

[obsidian shard]

3-4 million units a yeAR AFTER launch aint bad

[frail bloom]

Sounds pretty good

And like I said, I'm pretty sure it was well recieved

[obsidian shard]

Both 2016 and Eternal have sold over 6 million units each so far!

My Est for Dark Ages is 3mill+
-# especially after all the sales

[harsh egret]

only on steam!

[obsidian shard]

So peak

[versed quarry]

The Slayer is Doomguy

[fading bone]

im aware

[foggy jasper]

Doom 3 is better than TDA honestly

Just barely

[frail bloom]

Cool you feel that way

For me it's a good doom game but it's not as interesting to me as tda

Good game tho

[harsh egret]

that's a take alright

[meager vortex]

joke on you right?

[foggy jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/change-my-mind-gif-11630051

I mean TDA is awesome

[tacit onyx]

i respect the sheer audacity of that take

[foggy jasper]

But playing Doom 3 in VR was..... pretty freaking great

[harsh egret]

doom tda VR when

[foggy jasper]

Exactly

I would play the hell out of that

I would instantly sink 20 hours

[thin hound]

DOOM The Dark Ages VFR

Honestly as shown the last time, DOOM is not great for VR, since it’s so dependent on fast paced gameplay and cool combat animations

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-leave-disgusted-bored-annoyed-gif-5983048

[thin hound]

DOOM VFR wasn’t terrible, it just wasn’t as fun as the main game

[elder raven]

i think its more of a situation in which it was “good idea, poor execution”

[thin hound]

I don’t know how they could do a DOOM VR much better though, because if I did half the stuff I do when I normally play, I’d be super nauseous probably

Although I guess TDA could be good for it because instead of glory kills you can just manually punch the demons or use other melee to rip them apart

[wide siren]

i would instantly throw up after my third shield bash

[thin hound]

Yeah we do not have the VR technology yet to make a VR DOOM game that’s as fun as the main games are

[slender night]

I heard good things about D3VR

[frail bloom]

Ikr

Respect

[foggy jasper]

Doom 3VR is Extremely good, Quake 1 and 2 VR are an absolute blast, Brutal Doom VR is so good it's shocking

[fleet spruce]

i'd want to play After Doom or Purgatory in VR

[foggy jasper]

I think the classic doom VR mod is called QuestZDoom

[elder raven]

im gonna die bro no more sigils in pandemonium

[hard thistle]

Like hell you are! Keep fighting, brother!

[marble tulip]

Don't die then

[errant osprey]

New maps and skins
I would like them to add a Hell map and a Sentinel map to the Reptarium

[meager vortex]

unholy siege part1 and 2

[errant osprey]

Exactly
I would like them to add a Sentinel space like this as a map to the Reptarium
It would be great if they added different challenges to the Reptarium, but as I said above, I don't think we'll see any particular changes
Hugo said he's going to add the ability to save the Priests we made in the future

[meager vortex]

and i hope master level campaign for unholy siege part1 and 2

[errant osprey]

Hopefully we'll see a Master Campaign soon.

[meager vortex]

only we can play master level campaign doom eternal or doom2 master levels

[elder raven]

im still standing, got to forsaken plains

[errant osprey]

We have to be patient for now
My objection is that these things are postponed until after the DLC is released.
But on the one hand, it's clear that they are looking to make a big, high-quality DLC.

[meager vortex]

doom eternal master level campaign difficulty very high for me

[errant osprey]

Well, the difference with Dark Ages is that, despite the sliders, the master levels that are released for it can be customized differently for each person.

[meager vortex]

that is my goal brother

[errant osprey]

So even Dark Ages master levels might be even more repeatable.

[worn estuary]

after finished the last master level in doom eternal . and then playing doom dark ages campaign feels like childs play

in the highest difficulty too

im so happy master level is coming to doom eternal

[meager vortex]

how to beat master level doom eternal???

[worn estuary]

are you talking about the last master level ??? or which one

[meager vortex]

all of it

[worn estuary]

the last one is 10x more difficult than all the master levels

so imagine how it i feel like playing doom dark ages after that

[meager vortex]

i mean best tip for the master level doom eternal

[harsh egret]

git gud

[worn estuary]

ummm i think you have to solve the puzzle. its like a puzzle i think like they want you to use certain weapons in certain order

maybe im just a skitzo too tho

it does feel that way tho doesnt it

yea im sure

[meager vortex]

best rune for doom eternal?

[worn estuary]

wait

[errant osprey]

No, don't talk bad about yourself
You are a talented person
Really, if Dark Ages seems too easy for you, try playing Maximum Sliders

[worn estuary]

i have a very good tip .... you have to change the key binding of the weapons to q,e,r,t,caps,f ...... and in a specific order to be able to switch between 2 weapons

[errant osprey]

Which campaign manager are you talking about? Do you use mods?

[worn estuary]

master level are in the game itself

[errant osprey]

Yes, I know, but there are also some mods that are customized master levels for mod makers.

[worn estuary]

man i enjoyed the cosmic horror soo much in this game

doesnt get better than this

[errant osprey]

Regarding Master Levels, I can say that you don't have to finish Master Levels on Nightmare. Master Levels are just for more challenge and to make players better. I always play Master Levels on an easier difficulty level and then move up to higher difficulty levels. The fact that someone can't finish Master Levels on Nightmare is not a sign of weakness. This section is just for challenge, not to annoy people. That skill is acquired over time.

[tacit onyx]

I hope that I will be able to pause and exit on Master Levels

and still retain my progress for next time i boot up

[worn estuary]

i dont remember which runes i used except the one that lets you do finishers from a distance

you dont

[errant osprey]

Yeah, I agree
On the Master Level World Sphere stage, I was really tired at the end and just wanted it to be over.
Although these stages are designed in such a way that there is no save, I think they could have created a mode where we could only save the game once during a Master Level, no more.

[tacit onyx]

I've heard the argument on reddit that it's there to create some additional sense of challenge, and I disagree with that entirely because that's just cheap. It would make for a interesting new difficulty mode though as you said

[meager vortex]

new difficulty mode?

[errant osprey]

Yes, it can make this difficult
But because Master Levels are usually long and hard battles, they can be really tiring and tiring at times, and if you get out of it, you lose all your progress, which is painful.
Or for example, in my country, the power goes out every now and then, and that makes all my progress in Master Level disappear.
The ability to add just one save in Master Level could be interesting

[potent parcel]

naw I don't think that's why either, I think it's there because that's the save system they'd already implemented in the game and they didn't want to change it
I would have liked to be able to take a rest and come at the second half of it the next day, for sure

would be nice for replaying UAC Atlantica too, honestly, 'cause of how long that one is

[worn estuary]

just want to say i appreciate how climbing the wall is automatic. its like the devs saying "when it comes to fun we do NOT waste your time"

[errant osprey]

Yeah, UAC Atlantic was great too
But I'll say it was very tiring because it was so long
I remember getting a headache at the Master Level World Spear stage but I couldn't even get out.

[potent parcel]

the funny thing was I liked the double marauder, but it was the rest of the fight after it that utterly destroyed me 😛

[obsidian shard]

Agreed

[worn estuary]

remember the part when the suit is like Payment Required ... that was so funny

[willow beacon]

Air control and equipment fiend are great, then savagery or dazed and confused for third

[wintry forge]

While I do appreciate its purpose, I honestly wish we could control the climbing segments for mobility’s sake. Not really a big deal to me tho

[worn estuary]

?

[worn estuary]

i mean its just not wasting your time imo

[wintry forge]

Nah I agree, but I just like having control of it personally

But it’s not that big of a deal. I appreciate that id did it so those sections wouldn’t be tedious, as well as keeping the game less vertical. But I just wish the player could ascend and stop on their own, just for the sake of more freedom in terms of mobility

[analog vector]

I just finished Doom The Dark Ages and I have 3 questions I gathered every item in the game and I’m left with 522 coins is there a special meaning behind that number Second question is the dragon completely dead or will he get some sort of comeback lore wise I didn’t play Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal only a little bit Third question what now I got the platinum I could replay the game but that’s not something I’d enjoy for those two skins otherwise there is the Ripatorium but I have no idea what that is

[frail bloom]

1. No
2. He's prob dead
3. Ripatorium: there's a lot of presets to try out, go the the ripatorium channel and try out some of them

The Ripatorium is like a horde mode of sorts

[analog vector]

So after trying that out I can safely delete it until the dlc without missing out on something since I already got the platinum and only 4 milestones are missing 3 for the difficulty’s and 1 for the ripatorium

Honestly a little short for 80 bucks I’m done in less than 20 hours

I mean it’s the quality that matters but still a little short

[frail bloom]

I put like a couple hours in the ripatorium mode

There's official presets and then there's the community made ones

[analog vector]

Mhm okey I’ll try that

[frail bloom]

I'd stick with the game a little longer

Maybe a month?

Give or take

[obsidian shard]

I mean, all the DOOM games are relatively short

The biggest thing with them is the Replayability,

Ripatorium, Arcade Mode, Horde Mode

Dark Ages has Sliders you can mess with btw

[frail bloom]

I did a max slider run, added like 30 hours

[analog vector]

I mean they’re are so many games on my back log I’m just tryna get through it without rushing it

[frail bloom]

25-30 hrs

[frail bloom]

Idk you decide

[analog vector]

I’ll probably play a little more then just trying the ripatorium but I’m not really a fan of no death runs so I won’t be doing that

[frail bloom]

Ripatorium's really fun

It's basically just the game's combat condensed into an arena

A lot of enemy combinations, pick whatever map, and pick whichever song

[analog vector]

That’s cool it has no multiplayer yet right? In these ripatoriums

[frail bloom]

Multiplayer isn't happening

[analog vector]

How come didn’t doom eternal also have one

[frail bloom]

Pretty bad one

All resources went to the campaign and subsequent modes instead

[analog vector]

Okey that’s somewhat good then

[frail bloom]

Like that dlc

[analog vector]

Is they’re already an announcement trailer for the dlc since I got the deluxe edition

[frail bloom]

No announcement but we've been getting hints for months

[analog vector]

Luckily they put that game on sale for 35 bucks otherwise I would’ve been upset tbh

[frail bloom]

It's like 3 paragraphs

@obsidian shard

If you don't mind

[analog vector]

Nice but do you think we’ll get it this year or will we have to wait 2 years for the dlc like Elden rings dlc

[frail bloom]

No the dlc is pretty much a 2026 thing

[analog vector]

Okey good

[frail bloom]

Some of us have been theorizing a May release

[obsidian shard]

On it

[analog vector]

Sounds great

[frail bloom]

Would be a one year anniversary of tda too

But you never know

[obsidian shard]

#the-dark-ages message

DLC info

[analog vector]

That’s nice

[obsidian shard]

Much Bigger then Both Eternal DLCs imo

Also since we're only getting one For Dark Ages

[frail bloom]

One big one

[analog vector]

Nice and not so nice 😭

[harsh egret]

estimated to be 30 levels

[frail bloom]

More bang for your buck

[analog vector]

True

[frail bloom]

This guy

[analog vector]

Just the dlc or with the dlc

[frail bloom]

Don't listen to this guy

[harsh egret]

with the dlc ofc

thats what i meant

[frail bloom]

You

[harsh egret]

:))

no but we dont know how long it will be in levels

[analog vector]

Yesterday I looked up a video on how to get all the skins and literally I thought that was a joke at first like tf you mean I gotta fly to the USA and buy a pizza to get a doom skin

[harsh egret]

hopefully they start ramping up with some concept art reveals for the dlc

[harsh egret]

i paid a guy 5 bucks to give me a code for it

in hindsight it makes no sense cuz there was a decent amount of codes just given away by some community members

[analog vector]

LOL still full price title even more then full price and still basically having to buy skins that’s Damnnn

[analog vector]

Lul

[harsh egret]

well they make more money that way so it be what it be

[analog vector]

Funny so they’re only 3 skins you can get for free and 1 skin in the deluxe and. Another in the pre order and the rest is just events where you have to do randome ahh activities like leaving the house

[harsh egret]

they said they will eventually have them available for free in a bundle or smth

likely post dlc or depending whenever their availability period ends and stuff

[analog vector]

Okey makes sense

[obsidian shard]

To be fair it's a single player game

[flat elm]

I cheked Emerson's IG posts, and he said that unarmored pinky was partly inspired by Shin Godzilla!

[wintry forge]

If this is true then that’s sick af

[wintry forge]

Oh yeah, just read it in the comments. I love that. Man is truly one of the best concept artists out there

[warm ibex]

don't you remember when hugo got on stream and said "30 total dlc levels? come on guys, we're aiming for 50"

[harsh egret]

ohh yeah i forgot

they also said "we are just gonna make dlcs for tda until we finish the slayer's testaments"

[warm ibex]

I also recall something along the lines of "the dlc will introduce double jumping, dashing, quick swapping, the meathook, cosmetic events and our new composer Rick Mordon (pictured below)" https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892238793174818848/1473461979556614144/image.png?ex=69964be7&is=6994fa67&hm=e73ec4b8a3dbf3b128e363d9eee3d6d3403e8e110d923a445413686d60e14c73

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-cat-surprised-gif-5843462

[potent parcel]

also Doomguy now gets snarky one-liners that you can't turn off

[wintry forge]

Finally, no more Finishing Move

[versed quarry]

Contemplating pinging Sneaky in response to this message

[wintry forge]

(I love FM, dw)

[versed quarry]

Yeah but it would've been funny to see his response

[wintry forge]

Finishing Move is mediocre, right @obsidian shard ?

[versed quarry]

Your funeral lmao

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/eric-eric-tao-ken-leung-industry-industry-hbo-gif-13702557412707969815

[wintry forge]

How’s chat been tho? I’ve been inactive for the past week and a half besides yesterday lmao.

(Glad I didn’t miss a Hugo stream)

[obsidian shard]

Unsubscribed+Cope+35 Minute Video+I Talked to Alex+I remixed the OST+I own the 2lp+I own the CD+I own the 4LP+I'm going to eat you

[wintry forge]

That’s it, I’m taking your mixes off my playlist

[versed quarry]

Fitting that the guy with a mancubus PFP is going to commit cannibalism

[obsidian shard]

Exactly

[wintry forge]

I hope Mancubi don’t make it into the DLC

[warm ibex]

asking for that early grave bro i stg

[potent parcel]

all of them get replaced with komodos

[versed quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/coffin-dance-doom-demons-gif-19053427

[potent parcel]

looks like quite an... undertaking

[wintry forge]

Channeling my inner Epic Squid

[versed quarry]

He does have terrible takes, but honestly I feel kinda bad for how much he gets dogged on.

[wintry forge]

Nah he’s a fine dude, it’s all in good fun. He does ragebait at times tho, you can’t tell me he doesn’t lmao

[versed quarry]

No he does definitely try to troll a lot.

[wintry forge]

I enjoy sitting back with some popcorn and watching the chat

[versed quarry]

Fair lmao

[warm ibex]

I've had him blocked for weeks, he can't bother me anymore

https://tenor.com/view/rage-gif-5876125566236340594

[wintry forge]

I haven’t done that far lmao. I haven’t had an extreme encounter in some time

[versed quarry]

"Halo should just be DOOM."

Yeesh

[obsidian shard]

now that i'm home from work i can send my real response!

(Prince Ahzrak my goat)

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-the-dark-ages-prince-ahzrak-ahzrak-backhand-gif-8747994384629683022

-# I Dont mean it Goat

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/aim-he-virtuoso-target-in-sight-sniper-assassin-gif-20879443

i see you jay…

[wintry forge]

Ahh, so FM truly is mediocre? I’m telling Alex rn

(I say this as I’m currently blasting Atlan Battleground as I drive through the night)

[obsidian shard]

[versed quarry]

Sneaky do you take requests for these GIFs you make?

[obsidian shard]

yes

[frail bloom]

Classic Emerson W

Although he doesn't really look like Shin Godzilla in any regard

Ig the face is a bit squashed

Anyways, I'd love more of dat

[versed quarry]

Could you do the scene where Doomguy kills Davoth but the doomblade is the "true" and Davoth is the "false"?

No problem if you can't, and thanks if you can.

[obsidian shard]

will try my best

[versed quarry]

Thanks!!!!

[stone pasture]

Anyone else is having a problem with youtube

[obsidian shard]

yes

[mystic barn]

I’m gonna set you ablaze

I kid ❤️

[hard thistle]

What in the Unholy Siege have I missed?

And I was wondering if I was the only one. YT is down, it seems.

[fading osprey]

It is?

It is.

[obsidian shard]

it is

[hard thistle]

But sincerely hope everyone has been grand thus far?

[warm ibex]

yeah, should be fixed relatively soon though

[split gate]

https://tenor.com/view/yuji-stare-yuji-itadori-jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-yuji-stare-meme-gif-2566228405341525362

[wintry forge]

Ragebait champion

[obsidian shard]

Nothing to watch with my dinner

my day is ruined

NVM ITS BACK

[frosty roost]

I have a really bad cold

[obsidian shard]

NOOO

[fading osprey]

FUCK

[iron kettle]

Slayer, let your rage warm you, and cast out the dark infection

[timid veldt]

Game was as-some🌹

[iron kettle]

You forgot a w

[timid veldt]

Mb

[tacit onyx]

What are your guys favorite TDA tracks? And which one plays during that title drop?

[obsidian shard]

Main Menu is When the Shadows First Legthened

[wintry forge]

From the Ashes from the total drop

Fav is prob Into the Void or Battle on the Blackened Tide. All tracks are peak in their own way tho (see this is proof Finishing Move ain’t mid)

[obsidian shard]

From the Official OST its:

Infernal Chasm
From the Ashes
Apotheosis
ALL The Boss Tracks (+5)
Battle On the Blackened Tide
Into the Void
What Lies Below
Cosmic Sea
Unchained Predator
WTSFL
Blood Red

Non-Official OST/Fan Remixed
All of em

[frosty roost]

@fading osprey @obsidian shard yeah, I feel like I'm dying lmfao

[split gate]

Ragebait extraordinaire

[split gate]

WTSFL and Blood Red are my goats

[wintry forge]

For a sec I didn’t see Blood Red on the list. Was about to spazz

[hazy pasture]

Greetings

[fading bone]

hi

[hazy pasture]

Howdy Gemini

[fading bone]

hello

[twilit stone]

Into the Void and anyone who says eitherwise respectfully has their own opinion

[fading bone]

into the void is definitely the best

with unholy siege as a close second

[hazy pasture]

That one drop when Baron comes in

[random sand]

Well the easy choice is When The Shadows First Lengthened. But aside from that one, i actually don't know. I love most if not all of 'em but not sure which one stands above the rest. Unholy Siege maybe?

That one part that plays at 3:30 for the song (yeah i remember the timestamp) gives me the same adrenaline pump as The Only Thing They Fear Is You does

I also love Unchained Predator, Into The Void, Blood Red, Atlan Battleground, From The Ashes, Blood Spill, Battle On The Blackened Tide and Between Hex And Flame. I just love all of thr TDA soundtrack tbh

[remote badger]

Which edition is worth it?

Normal or Premium

[solid nacelle]

Premium will give you access to the dlc when it comes out so I would do that one

[remote badger]

That’s a funny joke bc we never know what’s going on with the dlc

“DLC”

[solid nacelle]

?

[remote badger]

The DownLoadable Content we have no idea what’s going on with it

[solid nacelle]

If you've been tuning into Hugo Martin's livestreams he's been giving little hints and clues about it over the last few months so we do have some idea about it

[split gate]

They’ve given us more info about it from the livestreams, a new weapon, number of levels, lore teasers

[fleet spruce]

we probably got a bit too much info actually

[random sand]

With you on that

[remote badger]

So do we know when it’s coming out

[split gate]

https://tenor.com/view/shannon-sharpe-suit-meme-shannon-sharpe-meme-could-you-repeat-that-no-gif-8559743649763101510

[ionic glade]

I think it’s honestly crazy how everyone has their own set of favs from the OST. You rarely see the same list twice unlike the previous two entries. I think Into the Void and Infernal Chasm are the ones that overlap the most. My personal favs are Battle on the Blackened Tide, Divine Retribution, Blood Spill, Unchained Predator, and Blood Red but all of them are bangers. Doubly so for all the gamerips from people in the community like Sneaky, DinosaurHeretic, and many others.

[meager vortex]

https://x.com/gangseongd6186/status/2024125720914706913/photo/1

강성두 (@gangseongd6186)

X · Feb 18, 2026, 2:15 PM

daisy confirmed

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-eternal-doom-slayer-daisy-bunny-gif-27366507

[fading osprey]

Pardon?

Oh nvm

[obsidian shard]

Ty goat

[old carbon]

heyo, i'm wondering if anyone knows a way to run TDA on older GPUs? i've seen some methods online, but they're all either harder than just buying PC components (which i'm NOT gonna do right now) or have been patched out, thanks!

[harsh egret]

well one way is by using "Geforce NOW"

You do need pretty decent and stable internet tho

[old carbon]

i'll check that out, thanks!

[old carbon]

aaaaand it's a membership thing.

[harsh egret]

well it is a way :d

[old carbon]

yeah... i was kinda looking for a way to play the 80$ game without paying EVEN MORE, but i guess it might have to do...

are there any other methods, though?

[slender night]

Xbox cloud gaming

[old carbon]

what now?

[hazy pasture]

Home's forever dreamland

[tidal crane]

20 chapters in, hurt me plenty, haven’t used a SINGLE life sigil.

[meager vortex]

you can make a slider no life sigil

[tender vessel]

Who has not played this game all the way through? I’m not sure why but I’m finding it very difficult to keep playing. Like I’m genuinely not interested and that worries me.

[obsidian shard]

What level are you at so far?

[tender vessel]

I just finished from beyond and I’m on spire of nerathul.

[thin hound]

Have you made the music volume higher than sounds, increased game speed to around 120%, and turned on auto sprint?

[tender vessel]

I finally did auto sprint. But I haven’t adjusted game speed.

[thin hound]

Might help

Also have you been doing many glory kills by jumping?

[tender vessel]

No I haven’t done many jump GKs.

I’m trying to figure out why but this game seems to give me heavy tunnel vision compared to 2016/eternal and I also lack a focus in the arenas. I feel like I’m moving with no path to direct myself sometimes. It’s really weird feeling. And then I gotta fly with the dragon back to back in the past level and this one between areas where I’m directed to go by a chase of the hell ships.

There’s also been in these two levels combat encounters for the first time that block progression until you defeat the two enemies in a small area which is the opposite of most of the game and I’m struggling to beat those. They are skippable if I don’t go there but still. I’m not sure why they are even there. There’s no reward but a life sigil and in the other spot a red gem.

Not trying to complain but I’m definitely struggling and it sucks.

[tender vessel]

Is there something with the glory kills that affect gameplay?

[gritty mist]

there is no trajectory in the dark ages

The map connects every part to each other usually

The game has a exploration system

If you just keep looking at the map for possible paths what is the fun

Maybe you have different opinions

[warm ibex]

No, jump glory kills have no impact on gameplay outside of potentially effecting pacing

[tender vessel]

So it’s non-linear in that way which isn’t a problem really.

[tender vessel]

I don’t look at the map unless the area is cleared to look for missed secrets or gold.

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/aura-gdfactory-chris-paul-gif-12914169421462561658

i see you jay..

@obsidian shard

[tender vessel]

Okay.

Im Probably struggling with spatial awareness. So it’s a skill issue I guess.

[green estuary]

IMO clearing the combat arenas then scouring the rest of the map to find secrets is the completely wrong way to go about it
You should be picking up stuff mostly as you go, and the amount of backtracking will be reduced by a lot that way

[warm ibex]

I believe most secrets are marked on the map automatically as you go by, so that should make it a lot easier to grab things as you go

[tender vessel]

So don’t focus on the demons attacking me? I’m confused by this. I do pick up things as I go in combat but it’s not like I focus on edges of the map when combat is happening.

[green estuary]

No, I mean look at the map occasionally as you pass through areas so you can spot secrets that are hiding away

[errant osprey]

Is there going to be a Hugo Live this week?

[green estuary]

Instead of just clearing all the combat and only then looking for secrets

Because that kills the pacing

[tender vessel]

Oh yeah I do that when an area is clear. Does the map pause combat? I’ve never actually looked at the map when enemies are nearby.

[warm ibex]

It does pause combat, but you probably shouldn't stop to check the map while in the middle of a battle

[warm ibex]

should be one tomorrow! (unless stated otherwise, of course)

[tender vessel]

That’s what I was thinking. I never do that.

[errant osprey]

I hope we have
I always look forward to Hugo Live on Thursdays
I have a feeling this week will bring us some good news

[tender vessel]

I tend to miss the live streams because my phone doesn’t receive any notifications when they start. When does it start so I can tune in?

[errant osprey]

It depends on your location
I think it's 6:30 PM local time
In my area it's 2:30 AM

[warm ibex]

it's 6:00pm EST

usually on thursdays, but they change dates and skip weeks on occasion

[errant osprey]

I hope they don't cancel the live this week.

[warm ibex]

the hugo needs to be launched

[tender vessel]

Cool thanks 🙏🏼 usually a tough time for me to watch. But I do watch them all even if not live.

[tender vessel]

By a launchpad, monkey bar, or speedrunning trick?

[warm ibex]

By a maykr battlestation

https://tenor.com/view/doom-the-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages-doomguy-gif-15980962764398322199

[errant osprey]

Th Hugo Time is Now

[tender vessel]

The DLC man. Let’s talk DLC.

[warm ibex]

what about it?

[tender vessel]

Idk. Do you think the DLC is going to do what the base game didn’t and try to add small tidbits of vertical platforming like eternal did? As in map design or mobility.

I see them splashing exploration to be platform oriented.

But uncertain about combat.

[warm ibex]

It's been hinted that the DLC will introduce more traversal elements and confirmed that a stronger focus will be put on mobility, but I personally don't expect anything on Eternal's level

the game is firmly tied to its horizontal nature and I don't think they'd backpedal on that

[obsidian shard]

Dark Ages will Stay Dark Ages in the DLC, Just with more new stuff

[warm ibex]

exactly

[obsidian shard]

Some people were expecting Dark Ages to Be Eternal with new Stuff

but its not, its all Different, Not Downgraded, not Better, Just Different, Its Dark Ages

[unkempt wave]

I’m trying to get the platinum trophy for doom the dark ages I need the last armor essence but it says I have all of them I still have 140 armor

On every mission it says 1/1 armor essence

[tender vessel]

I’m fine with horizontal nature. It’s doom.

[unkempt wave]

Idk what to do

And I’ve replayed every mission

It’s still doesn’t work

[tender vessel]

I’m glad it’s not eternal for sure. I’m only missing platforming (who would have thought).

[thin hound]

I really hope they put green flesh nodes in some of the new combat arenas

[tender vessel]

Very underutilized. Might work. Level design is king to decisions I would think.

@thin hound do you think Ground pound felt given? That’s probably my only gripe that felt cheap to me. Because you’re allowed to do it entering an arena but less likely to pull it off in combat due to grounded nature without mobility other than sprinting.

[slender night]

I think it was just meant to be a cool entrance to lower areas

[tender vessel]

Probably.

[tender vessel]

Actually you’re totally right. It doesn’t give any resources does it? Shows I don’t pay attention to it.

[merry sapphire]

They really should have brought the unmaker in this game

[obsidian shard]

It was in Eternal tho

tbf i'm sayin that cause i have no idea how they would try and implement it

[thin hound]

It’s weird because sometimes it doesn’t activate like when you do use a flesh node jump I think

But it’s really just meant for when you land from really high up.

[merry sapphire]

so was the bfg tho