the-dark-ages

[versed quarry]

What

[hazy pasture]

Maggot

[hazy pasture]

Yes

[versed quarry]

DOOM64 pain elemental please

[thin hound]

I think if they blended the color scheme and two mouths of that with the arm mandibles of Eternal’s designs could be great

[versed quarry]

Or, even if it was a regular enemy, I’d love to see the mother demon make a comeback

[slender night]

I've always wanted the Maledict back. It made so much sense for it to return for TDA

[solar cairn]

Doom Dark Ages returns in 2026!

[thin hound]

They would have to do a lot of design changes

Or hopefully we get a cosmic prowler or the return of the harvester!

[slender night]

With the medieval vibe I think an all-skeleton dragon would actually fit in nicely

[thin hound]

The devs have the harvester demon in their back pocket and have never used it for singleplayer

[grim cloud]

resurrected demonic serrat. doomguy has to kill him. tragic

[versed quarry]

That would actually go kinda crazy

[thin hound]

I’m looking through all the Doom 3 demons, and many look like the Halo Flood

[harsh egret]

who wouldve guessed, no tda lol

[green estuary]

c r a z y

[fleet spruce]

not really, they look more like corpses

[warm ibex]

I think it's more surprising that there was no halo or gears

[harsh egret]

this game saved as a surprise is a choice..

[green estuary]

which game was it

[harsh egret]

i wouldve expected one of those as a surprise

[green estuary]

I'm not even watching lol

[warm ibex]

neither am I

[harsh egret]

some pottery party indie game

[thin hound]

Is the next Halo game a reboot?

[warm ibex]

remake of CE

[grim cloud]

haha, yes it is

[green estuary]

bruh

[harsh egret]

like surely u give a deep dive into something bigger

[warm ibex]

it's a smaller first party title as a little surprise, I don't think there's much to fuss about

[harsh egret]

now its gonna be fable next and thats gonna be all so

[warm ibex]

no one expected a trailer, we didn't get a trailer. business as usual

[grim cloud]

it will be quake 6, i know it! trust me bro

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/ranger-quake-doom-eternal-rocket-launcher-jump-gif-25254132

[thin hound]

Is that Quake 4?

[warm ibex]

doom eternal

[thin hound]

Oh yeah just realized it’s a skin

[slender night]

Quake 4 is Strogg

[versed quarry]

The Quake 4 graphics are so good

[green estuary]

bruh what is that rocket jump

[fleet spruce]

exactly

[slender night]

A very sad one

[green estuary]

and he isn't even doing it right 😭
you jump first, then shoot the rocket at the ground

[fleet spruce]

It's actually crazy how well it holds up overall

[green estuary]

not really that crazy, it was made with id tech 4

[fleet spruce]

yeah, but it's also a lot more visually complex than Doom 3

[thin hound]

It’s too bad the gameplay doesn’t look like it holds up

[slender night]

You won't know til you try it

[fleet spruce]

gameplay is fine actually

[versed quarry]

Yeah they’re not terrible, but it should be pretty obvious when you’re looking at Quake 4 V Eternal

[versed quarry]

Bro why are you so against playing older games

[thin hound]

I’m not at all, the graphics are not the problem

[fleet spruce]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/660609853957472256/1239979770108968960/Quake4_14.05.2024_19_46_00.jpg?ex=6973a3a6&is=69725226&hm=83ba2637abe87c74cc1c9ff00a6efda1ace451a916c86f6b6a23e80821027f5a&

[thin hound]

It looks good enough, but the gameplay looks like it devolved from the previous Quake games

[fleet spruce]

(don't tell him about how it plays post stroggofication)

[slender night]

Sidegrade. Frantic gameplay is fun and all but more grounded gameplay helps with the game's tone. Kinda like with TDA tbh, Eternal was faster but I cannot picture TDA's atmosphere with Eternal's gameplay

[versed quarry]

I couldn’t even if I wanted to because I don’t know much about it

[thin hound]

Eternal was not faster, how many people are going to think that?

[slender night]

It was in my experience

[fleet spruce]

It's actually not that far off from quake 2, you can even bunny hop

[versed quarry]

I haven’t played any of the Quake games, I’m sorry

[thin hound]

The meathook is slower than shield charge, and you can increase game speed, it’s already faster at 120%

[slender night]

Weird vehicle sections tho 💔

[fleet spruce]

shhhh

[slender night]

You can manipulate the meathook for far greater results than the shield charge

[thin hound]

Not necessarily for speed though, just upward mobility

[fleet spruce]

imagine doom 2016 basically, plenty of quake 2's dna there

[slender night]

I would argue mobility equals speed

[versed quarry]

Ah

[thin hound]

In some cases yes, but also attack speed

[versed quarry]

I’ve heard that Rage 2 is also a proto-2016

[slender night]

More like proto-Eternal

[versed quarry]

Oh

[thin hound]

It’s more like a proto Eternal and TDA

[slender night]

Wonder if we're gonna get anything like that for TDA (that isn't 30 years old)

[fleet spruce]

Im gonna go through RAGE games once payday drops, been putting it off for too long

[thin hound]

?

[slender night]

Finally

[slender night]

Not sure what you're confused about there mr. Epic!

[thin hound]

I’m not sure what you’re referring to

[versed quarry]

I started Rage, but I’ve never finished it. Just lost interest I guess. I should finish it eventually.

[thin hound]

Anything like what?

[slender night]

Like a game that sorta adopts TDA's mechanics while not being just straight up TDA again

Like RAGE 2 was with Eternal, even though RAGE 2 came out first

[thin hound]

From ID Software or any dev?

[slender night]

Anyone as long as it's under an id franchise, any indie dev can realistically do this. Not as hype as an official release

[thin hound]

And I would argue RAGE 2 kind of is that for TDA as well

[slender night]

I don't see it

[thin hound]

Painkiller seems kind of similar to TDA

[fleet spruce]

Happens, I'm playing Necromunda Hired Gun rn but I'm getting sidetracked by the shiny classic Doom wads

[green estuary]

[supple oracle]

Nothing for DLC 🙁

[wintry forge]

Happy about that

Maybe Hugo will give us something good in the stream tonight

[harsh egret]

"slayers past" for the 10th time

[wintry forge]

Hold onto our word of the day

[solar cairn]

Yes, I beg you, give me at least something

[obsidian shard]

Well only 4 "big" events remain

[versed quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/shock-shocker-shocked-black-guy-gif-27526370

[harsh egret]

i really think they are gonna drop the trailer randomly in the next few months

[solar cairn]

I was so hoping that at the end the powerful teaser would start, when strange sounds played

[meager vortex]

maybe

[obsidian shard]

I mean probs

id Software anniversary

Dark Ages 1 year/2016's 10 year launch

Xbox Game showcase

Quakecon

Tbf they did Random with Tag

[thin hound]

DOOM 10 year anniversary, I’m calling it

[versed quarry]

Multiple suspects

[obsidian shard]

Ya 2016

[green estuary]

well I sure as hell hope the dlc will be released by quakecon

[harsh egret]

i think it will be

[solar cairn]

Showcase?

Damn, summer is still far away

[thin hound]

I think that the 10 year anniversary will be when the DLC releases

[obsidian shard]

🥀

[green estuary]

this is august we're talking about
over 6 months away

[obsidian shard]

Basically
February
May
June
August

[thin hound]

The teaser could be any day though

[green estuary]

they could not release the trailer until something like april and still easily have the dlc out by QC

[fleet spruce]

i better see it in February

[harsh egret]

do i dare make another bold prediction and say the dlc will be out within the next 4 months

i dont have a good track record with my predictions

[obsidian shard]

I say Q2 2026

[green estuary]

yeah I'm thinking april, may, june, or maybe july

[harsh egret]

well thats my prediction anyway

i really hope its not coming out during summer break

im not at my home setup for like a bit over a month 😭

[versed quarry]

Bros gonna have to dodge spoilers like the plague

[harsh egret]

ill have to play on a 3060 laptop

skull emoticon

[fleet spruce]

send the Steam Deck upon hellspawn

[fleet spruce]

Shouldn't be that bad

[harsh egret]

i mean ive tried before

im used to 140fps on 1440p, not 40 fps at 1080p

it just feels really bad

[fleet spruce]

good luck then 🫡

still i think the dlc won't be taking THAT long to come out

[harsh egret]

yh same

[green estuary]

ehhh, that's not so bad
dlss goes a long way

[harsh egret]

well my laptop is an overheating pos

[green estuary]

(coming from someone who plays on a 4060 laptop)

[harsh egret]

i tried dlss performance even and it feels like ass and looks garbanzo

[versed quarry]

Yeah honestly I would rather just wait until I had better hardware than use dlss

[harsh egret]

but yeah if its out during july, the dlc will be ruined for me and i will have to get spoiled

im gonna have no choice lol

[fleet spruce]

I'm willing to play like on a goddamn switch if it means I'm getting to play more than half of my working hours

[green estuary]

you're kinda selling it short
dlss balanced and quality are damn near indistinguishable from native, in this game at least

[harsh egret]

or i just play at 60 fps with the resolution of doom 1993

dlss quality is really good

[versed quarry]

Again, I’d rather do that than use dlss

[fleet spruce]

I've done my calculations and I'm getting exactly 5 hours at 720p FSR performance and 30 FPS lock

[harsh egret]

yeah i meant it looks like doom 1993 at 1080p cuz dlss ultra performance looks like crap

[versed quarry]

Huh

[harsh egret]

?

[green estuary]

what's the rationale here

[versed quarry]

I’m confused by what you mean. Are you saying that you’re just turning down the resolution, or are you saying that the dlss looks like shit

[harsh egret]

"i would rather have the game look like trash than it looking better with higher frames"

[versed quarry]

I don’t want any AI machine learning garbage in my game.

I don’t care if it’s “extra frames” or whatever

[harsh egret]

lol

[green estuary]

alr bruh

[harsh egret]

hf man

[versed quarry]

It smears everything, and on top of that, it causes artifacting. I’m good.

[fleet spruce]

good thing I can't see shit on 7 inch screen

[green estuary]

can you do a little thought experiment with me here
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1249410886590927031/1376007228330475621/3017860_20250524201944_1.png?ex=697375d8&is=69722458&hm=661fa18ce50dca0a2abea0d0225dd262948a70c15af098fcccac7836fe0c2917
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1249410886590927031/1376007804778975292/3017860_20250524202255_1.png?ex=69737661&is=697224e1&hm=cc3172462b2124fb4bd5d33540de4f9b499d343ff1b67a0c3c7330cfd563b7ce

ignoring the performance overlay, which one looks like dlss to you

[slender night]

Why is your HUD in the middle 😭

[green estuary]

(it's not my hud)

but shhh

[slender night]

Good

[thin hound]

When your FOV is so absurdly high your HUD can’t even keep up

[harsh egret]

i think i know which one it is but i really dont see much of a difference
tho the main difference would be in motion

but even then dlss q looks really good xd

idk what bro is on about

[green estuary]

well that would be the screen tearing aspect
artifacting is fully visible in still images

(and I'd obviously love to send a video, but I can't lol)

[harsh egret]

also I thought he was against ML ai stuff being on his computer but then he says its cuz it looks bad

choose one

[versed quarry]

I can dislike it for both reasons

I’m not gonna open the genAI can of worms

[harsh egret]

well one is just questionable and the other one is just wrong

[versed quarry]

But I dislike it for both reasons

[harsh egret]

r u sure u arent thinking of framegen

if ur against dlss cuz its "genAI" then i fear u are against genAI just for the sake of being against it

[thin hound]

Yeah I think it’s best to have a nuanced opinion about AI because it is a very complicated issue and not at all ⚫️⚪️

[idle swallow]

I swear Dark Ages might have THE most satisfying double barreled shotgun in any game I ever played

[thin hound]

Yes DOOM is great at making satisfying to use weapons

[idle swallow]

when I fight Tyrants I always kill them with this pattern:
block green attack, then melee, then super shotgun, then repeat

[thin hound]

I also love how the skullcrushers and chainshot are actually really well designed weapons for ammo conservation, because you don’t have to worry about running out if you’re just firing a retractable steel ball, or picking up the skulls of your enemies and using them

It’s just smart

[idle swallow]

Dark Ages' weapon utility feels like a mix of 2016 and Eternal. you can mostly use the same guns if you want to but all weapons are useful

my fps tends to drop all the way up to mid-40s but I can stand that. I set the game's graphics to max and it's some of the best looking stuff ever

people say Dark Ages doesn't look all that better than Eternal but it does imo

[fleet spruce]

DUSK double barrel is up there as well imo, powerful and super punchy

[thin hound]

Did you know that the super shotgun has flintlocks made of demon claws?

[slender night]

I think it's DOOM 3's one for me

[frail bloom]

What would be in Q2 2026

[thin hound]

I also miss the exploding barrels of DOOM, I think the impact of them was far less in Eternal

[frail bloom]

May, June, July, August?

Is that right?

[idle swallow]

while I'm enjoying Dark Ages so far I can see why a lot of Doom 2016 and Eternal fans hate it
it's just... a very different experience

[frail bloom]

More for me

They got the other two to play

[thin hound]

I don’t see it at all, the experience isn’t so different that it should be hated

[fleet spruce]

It really is a buffet , expensive restaurant even

[frail bloom]

It's exactly that

[slender night]

I mean when you're a fan of two things from a franchise and a new one comes out you'd probably want it to be like the two you liked. Hating it is overkill but I can understand people not being big on it

[wintry forge]

D3 RoE’s one is slept on big time

[frail bloom]

An expensive restaurant vs a well established middle of the road but arguably as good settlement

[versed quarry]

They cooked with the weapon sound design in The Dark Ages

[idle swallow]

in my case I actually feel like Dark Ages is going to be my favourite NuDoom game

[harsh egret]

april may june

[frail bloom]

I mean that's not super bold to assume

Could be Q3

But early Q3

[slender night]

The original shotgun packs a crazy punch, this one is pretty much a melee rocket launcher. Also love how it makes RoE give you double the shotgun shells you usually would get, which you can then use to just play the game with just the original shotgun and basically never run out of ammo 😌

[frail bloom]

Because of GTA

[idle swallow]

Samir has a Dinotrux pfp. gives me memories

[frail bloom]

Yeah we love Ton Ton around here

Ton ton the goat

[wintry forge]

It’s literally like a bfg shotgun at close range. Deletes whatever enemy who’s face you shove the barrels in

Satisfying to melt anything with 😅

[frail bloom]

I really liked slowing down time and shooting all the bruisers

Their fireballs are kinda fast

[idle swallow]

including the super shotgun was one of my favourite things about Lost Mission

I'm surprised base Doom 3 didn't have the super shotgun

[frail bloom]

A lot of Doom games take or remove from their past titles

It just started with Doom 3

For example

We had no archvile in base tda, but he's returning for this dlc

[idle swallow]

Summoners from Doom 2016 kinda returned in Eternal's DLC

[frail bloom]

Ye exactly

It might be either time or getting to hone in your philosophy for the game and expanding

[void hornet]

Anyone know why when you get the heaven spitter, the shock demons don't transfer their shock to other demons when they die?

[frail bloom]

Idk why but I've heard of this before

Maybe send gameplay and show what your upgrades for the cycler

iirc it's a straight upgrade path, no trees

[void hornet]

In this chat you mean?

[green estuary]

Because only demons shocked from the cycler will chain lightning

The gauntlets and heaven splitter do not have this effect

[void hornet]

Yes I know, I do think that I used the cycler and It didn't apply

Yeah I just tried it and it indeed does not transfer the shock

[solar spoke]

It's still cool that each game is different though. If it were more of Eternal but better then there'd be no reason to go back to Eternal

[solar spoke]

agreed, I think the only one that sounds close to me in sound is probably the MWII double barrel once you have the double pull trigger equipped. Even then it's not like a literal cannon going off in your face like TDA

[warm ibex]

jesus this is the most colorful tda screenshot I've ever seen

how do you achieve those colors katsu?

[green estuary]

I have no idea
There’s a guy in the modding discord who made a settings guide, these are from his settings

[obsidian shard]

is that less Fog?

[green estuary]

Lemme see if I can find it

[obsidian shard]

NEED THEM (HDR?)

[flat elm]

https://x.com/dayumitsskai/status/2014355523072630863

Skai Chow (@dayumitsskai)

Nice observation by this member from the DOOM community!

I didn't animate the initial sprint pass, it was done by another animator. Full credits to them for the first pass. The release version was inspired by it, and then developed further to better match the director's vision.

X · Jan 22, 2026, 3:12 PM

[green estuary]

Alr here it is https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3480938444

@warm ibex @obsidian shard

[warm ibex]

oh that's useless to me lol

console player. but thank you for finding and sharing

[obsidian shard]

I cant use it...

[green estuary]

They’re just console commands

They still work outside of steam if you’ve got the console unlocked

[harsh egret]

yh i noticed that in the first version during the dev direct and it felt a bit unpolished

and i really liked how much better it looked in the final game lol

[spiral crow]

Also any news on the stream for tonight?

[harsh egret]

not yet but sometimes they announce it pretty late

a few streams ago they announced it about half an hr before

[spiral crow]

Alright thanks Hato

[obsidian shard]

hes the goat

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-no-u-no-you-reverse-uno-uno-gif-22508660

[fading osprey]

Hate is lowkey one of the main cool people here

Also including Samir, Jay, horde, Katsu, LM, suripycap, anome, squid, and chainsawgvtz

[frail bloom]

We're all cool🗣️

Fact of the day

[supple oracle]

facts

[slender night]

https://tenor.com/view/ben-stiller-oh-you-you-dont-say-come-on-gif-4954979

[fading osprey]

I know a lot of others, but forgive me if i didn’t mention em

[wintry forge]

Hato is def the goat🔥🔥

[fading osprey]

Jay too

I see em as a dynamic duo of some sorts

[wintry forge]

Nah he’s just Sneaky

But he’s also Cool

[fading osprey]

https://giphy.com/gifs/godzilla-energized-monsterverse-0wclqksHzQ3uThdbYh

[fading osprey]

@forest hatch u were mentioned btw :3

[forest hatch]

guh

[fading osprey]

-# you’re cool

[slender night]

I would also say I have had pleasant experiences with those people.
Squid too, despite our basically polar opposite takes

[wintry forge]

*Mr. Hot Take

[obsidian shard]

haha i suppose lol

[fading osprey]

And of course…

Another cool person

-# me :3

[obsidian shard]

Thanks you king

[slender night]

Lava takes, takes I can't personally agree with whatsoever. But aside one or two things I can't say that his takes reflect his personality

[wintry forge]

Nah he’s chill aside from the fact he hasn’t played OG doom and enjoys the ragebaiting

[obsidian shard]

Your the coolest dawg!!!

[fading osprey]

@unkempt dragon u were mentioned :3

[obsidian shard]

And icon (Give the man a Creator role god damnit)

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/zoolander-ben-stiller-meme-gif-27253399

[wintry forge]

LM carrying the civility of this server on his back 🔥🔥

[fading osprey]

I think im the moral support guy

[solar spoke]

Meant to ask, is the stream on tonight?

[versed quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/point-gif-2450101530054484962

[fading osprey]

Either that or..

[wintry forge]

https://tenor.com/view/goofy-movie-blush-gif-17553823346583229377

[fading osprey]

-# I’m the fetus

[obsidian shard]

Elite gif for the collection

[slender night]

I've mentioned this a few times with somebody else, but this server right now is at its best since TDA got revealed I feel. There is genuinely nobody that gives me a bad taste in my mouth here

[fading osprey]

yippe!

[obsidian shard]

I saw one of those money twitter scam thingy pop in a a channel, and it was disintegrated immediately...

https://tenor.com/view/i-could've-sworn-there-was-a-gif-of-this-whatever-squid-game-squid-game-edit-squid-game-edit-meme-i'm-so-scared-gif-12360771953743496060

[versed quarry]

LM coming home to the DOOM server and seeing he has 134,713 children to feed

[solar spoke]

agreed, I've been on a few discords that have spiralled into toxicity before but this one is genuinely decent. Not a single bad one here

[fading osprey]

Cuz it’s official

I think

[slender night]

And it's for a BASED game

[supple oracle]

Danke, brother

[versed quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-the-dark-ages-doom-true-launch-the-true-doom-launch-the-true-gif-17039720600748597696

[solar spoke]

Is there anything more based than Doom is the real question

[obsidian shard]

Gern geschehen!

[versed quarry]

Sneaky just got unpersoned

[obsidian shard]

what

[fading osprey]

I don’t even know where I am in all of this🤔

[versed quarry]

The message that you sent got deleted

[obsidian shard]

I deleted it lol, pinged wrong person

[fading osprey]

Am I the “rookie” in terms of completing the games?

[versed quarry]

Ohhhhh lmao

[solar spoke]

how many you completed?

[wintry forge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-batman-gif-dc-dc-comics-detective-comics-gif-2146355390836974304

[fading osprey]

Beat 2016 once, redoing it on UV.(beat it on HMP)

I’m almost done it too

@unkempt dragon might know what I mean by rookie and stuff

[obsidian shard]

General back on the "Which DOOM Better debate" lo

[fading osprey]

lol

Jay

Who do you think I might be here

My place here

[obsidian shard]

Cyclone!

kind of simple of me to say, but everyone here doesn't serve a particular "Role" perchance. We're all ourselves; yapping about games in a franchise we enjoy!

So your Place is being Cyclone I suppose!!

[fading osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-the-dark-ages-doom-true-launch-the-true-doom-launch-the-true-gif-17039720600748597696

[supple oracle]

Not going too far, I am just trying to flex the only 5 german words I know 😂 😂

[obsidian shard]

awww man

[solar spoke]

I know some incredibly basic German, the pronounciation throws me a little when speaking tbh

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-in-rain-sad-batman-batman-gif-3935196111415974922

[obsidian shard]

Out of context, this is possiby the strangest thing ever

[supple oracle]

Guess no stream today ??

[obsidian shard]

still 15 or so minutes till we have confirmation

[forest hatch]

thanks chat

[elder raven]

stream gone and taken away

[forest hatch]

banned from stream

[solar spoke]

Is that actually a set video or someone in really good cosplay?

[warm ibex]

cosplay

damn good one, too

[solar spoke]

It's a damn good cosplay then I must say

atmosphere's all there

[unkempt dragon]

Josh just told me there will be a stream today

[obsidian shard]

praise be to Josh!

[solar spoke]

sweet, usual time?

[harsh egret]

niceeee

[obsidian shard]

You know what would be cool for a stream....

[harsh egret]

a sneaky jay?

[obsidian shard]

Finishing Move, Andrew and David hopping on a stream

[solar spoke]

Live concert stream, sounds solid

[fading osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/murder-drones-lizzy-md-lizzy-murder-drones-v-md-v-murder-drones-gif-2825943617786363673

[warm ibex]

Exclusive info from josh - on today's stream they'll be building a time machine to go back and add autosave to the original doom 3

[harsh egret]

[warm ibex]

when questioned, Hugo Martin did confirm that the time machine will have tapered shapes

[solar spoke]

they should just add the nintendo rewind feature fr

https://tenor.com/view/will-smith-rewind-time-happy-gif-14810665

[elder raven]

can they add a feature that destroys your pc if you die once in any doom game

[stone pasture]

Doom stream at 6 eastern

[unkempt dragon]

20min til stream

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-3-marine-gif-8672486222723136006

[solar spoke]

collect on warranty and have fun playing Doom? Seems like a win/win

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/mancubus-doom-3-gif-17915598113135757634

[harsh egret]

are we allowed to talk about the stream during it here even if it might be not related to tda?

[solar spoke]

I nearly forgot how elephant-like the Mancubus is in 3

[unkempt dragon]

Idk why y'all are so afraid of talking in other channels

but yeah I'll allow it today, just don't make it a regular thing

[obsidian shard]

to the doom 3

channel

[harsh egret]

i guess thats an option, just feels so disjointed to hop back and forth

[unkempt dragon]

you lazy mf'er

[harsh egret]

cuz one moment id have smth to say about d3 then 2 mins later about tda

depending on whats happening on stream lol

[unkempt dragon]

yeah it's fine just throw in some TDA talk in there too

I'm off to work, bye bye!

[harsh egret]

ofc ofc

cya take care

[unkempt dragon]

👋

[obsidian shard]

goodbye goat

[supple oracle]

bb

[solid nacelle]

They should add the flashlight to dark ages

[harsh egret]

as a melee weapon in the dlc

[solid nacelle]

Make it so you can stun opponents and make them go "ahh what the heck I'm blind!"

[solar spoke]

It's be cool as a weapon that could blind cyclopean demons

wonder what DLC hint Hugo's gonna drop today

[obsidian shard]

"Sneaky"

[harsh egret]

doomguy can crouch in the dlc omg

[thin hound]

That is nearly pointless

[obsidian shard]

You got it

[harsh egret]

man cant take a joke

[fading osprey]

See you later, friend!

[solar spoke]

"pointless", the opposite of pointy. Just like a spear tip...

[heady trout]

pointless fans when i show them a ball

(it lacks any points)

[solar spoke]

SneakyJayCool in the game confirmed

[solar spoke]

just like the chainshot. Chainshot 2 incoming

[obsidian shard]

"SneakyJayCool" 😭

[thin hound]

The reaver 2

I kind of hope we can wield the komodo chainsaw spear in the DLC

[obsidian shard]

thats what i'm saying

Either the Komodo Chain-spear or Ahzrak's Spear!

[harsh egret]

the slayer is too cool for azhraks spear

[solar spoke]

it's be cool but I'd like to see one the slayer have one that's maybe been forged specifically for him

[thin hound]

The komodo does use its spear for a lot of mobility, something Hugo says a lot

[thin hound]

Or maybe Novik’s axe because he never used it

[harsh egret]

here we go

[solar spoke]

maybe a stick you attach the shield saw too on the end lol. Sacrifice defense for ranged melee offense

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/tyler-the-creation-tyler-the-creator-child-kid-son-gif-8121086759220539515

how they slayer looks holding his shield on a stick

[obsidian shard]

their is the concept art of the shield with the pointy front

[solar spoke]

In his commander keen cosplay no less

[warm ibex]

lol

[solar spoke]

sweet, I think I've seen it in the art book but I'll take another look

[mystic barn]

That’s very possible, I like your thinking. Opening scene of the DLC could see Doomguy battling a Komodo and taking his spear after their scuffle

[frosty roost]

what did i come back to? did i miss anything

[harsh egret]

nope nothing yet

[frosty roost]

okay thanks, took dog out lmao

joshua just flexing the stuff he has, love it!

[solar spoke]

he always has the coolest stuff lol

[harsh egret]

[frosty roost]

I recognised the gameboy he brought out lmfao, glad we have em in England

[wintry forge]

Josh could retire early if he sold all the crazy shit he’s got lmao

[frosty roost]

dlc at the end?? oh hints nvm lmao

[ionic glade]

With the Komodo Champion theme playing during the fight and bam! Song is on the official DLC ost release as a result. Wishful thinking but a man can dream

[solar spoke]

Hugo's advocating a people's revolution to get a good Doom movie made. Let's go

[harsh egret]

Dont let katsu hear this

[wintry forge]

Maybe our hint of the stream is a movie reveal (a man can dream 🥲)

[harsh egret]

i mean he's been on this topic for a while now

since one of the first tda streams

[wintry forge]

He’s been stringing us along

[harsh egret]

I'd be so down for an action survival horror doom tho

[wintry forge]

Same

[frosty roost]

i'd love a survivor action horro doom style game, i love horror game

[wintry forge]

Every game is different. They can take one game that route, and take the game after that another route

DOOM rpg mention

[harsh egret]

Maybe they can start a new trilogy of doom games that are more action survival horror ish

[frosty roost]

every DOOM game is PEAK

[warm ibex]

67420 door code 😭

[harsh egret]

he actually fell for it

some first time chatter said it on twitch chat lmao

[frosty roost]

LMAO

[versed quarry]

No fucking way

[wintry forge]

Reveal of the stream is Cosmic Realm confirmation. Calling it now

[solar spoke]

Hugo reveals the cosmic realm is real and opens a portal to it

[versed quarry]

Two days later the ID Software office is found to be irradiated

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-kitten-angry-mad-gif-16754054616247640902

[stone pasture]

A scientist in the lost missions in doom 3 sound like max Tennyson

[heady trout]

tf the US military gonna do against a cacodemon hybrid

the purple walls

[harsh egret]

im sure u would love an action survival horror doom Katsu cmon

[solar spoke]

same voice actor maybe? He's been in a lot

[frosty roost]

I'm hoping for cosmic realm honestly

[harsh egret]

Hugo hinted at it in one of the past streams but didn't directly confirm it

[frosty roost]

yeah i know

[harsh egret]

but ye id be down

i loved the puzzles they did in the cosmic realm as well

[wintry forge]

Exact same as he did with the original tease for the Archvile… interesting…

[harsh egret]

Every "interesting..." is now confirmed

[solar spoke]

Doom 3 pinky is vicious

[wintry forge]

So far they all have been tbf

Most of them have been discussed or briefly mentioned again several streams after

[green estuary]

Not really tbh
I’m not a huge fan of the genre in general

[harsh egret]

yh ik, its why I said dont let Katsu hear this

cuz they were talking about it

Hugo seems to like the idea of doing one

[thin hound]

Making DOOM a pure survival horror would completely strip it of what makes DOOM unique

I’m fine with a more horror inspired theme, so long as it doesn’t detract from the awesome DOOM gameplay we know and love

[green estuary]

Which it invariably will
Fluid movement and slick gunplay are essentially unheard of in a survival horror game

[wintry forge]

Yep, heard that one

Meeting the Wretch basically confirmed

[solar spoke]

we gonna meet the wretch?

[harsh egret]

sounds like it lol

who else have we been waiting to meet

[thin hound]

The original Baalgar demon

[solar spoke]

we gonna meet Mecha Daisy

[versed quarry]

pretty much "slayer's past" again lmao

I get why but its funny

[wintry forge]

Mecha Daisy was word of the day omg

[harsh egret]

HUH

[versed quarry]

CRUCIBLE?

[frosty roost]

CRUCIBLE??

I'm so excited bro

[wintry forge]

HOLY CRAP SAMUEL IS RETURNING DID YOU GUYS HEAR THAT

[versed quarry]

ALREADY TAKEN?????

[wintry forge]

Not the Crucible, heard

[obsidian shard]

Cant be the Slayers....

[solar spoke]

The Bethesda gun

[elder raven]

ALL BETS ON SOUL CUBE…

[wintry forge]

I was about to flip, if my Crucible theory was right that would’ve been sick

[frosty roost]

nahhh, it's gotta be from a demon or something in Hell.. hmmm

[wintry forge]

They don’t got a name 😭

[solar spoke]

Maybe a cyberdemon canon?

[elder raven]

ALL. BETS. ON. SOUL. CUBE.

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/i-could've-sworn-there-was-a-gif-of-this-whatever-squid-game-squid-game-edit-squid-game-edit-meme-i'm-so-scared-gif-12360771953743496060

[harsh egret]

I kinda dont hope its the Crucible cuz why would it just be the Crucible once again

[frosty roost]

soap..

[versed quarry]

keep chugging hopium bro

[obsidian shard]

Sooo uh was today's stuff

[elder raven]

SOUL CUBE… NOW!

[harsh egret]

unless it plays completly different which i hope it will

[wintry forge]

Well there is a history there in the lore. That’s the only weapon I can think of that has a lore purpose

[harsh egret]

yh ik

[wintry forge]

What other weapon has a purpose in the lore?

Hmm…

[harsh egret]

soul cube i suppose lol

[solar spoke]

sentinel hammer but I don't think we're getting that again

[wintry forge]

Yeah, that’s all I can think of

[versed quarry]

And then Hugo dieded

[wintry forge]

But another IP already has the name

So they don’t have a name for it. So no Soul Cube, no Crucible…

[obsidian shard]

Not a CHance.... Valen still has his

[warm ibex]

DOOM 3 Chapter Two Stream Notes:

“Definitely will be meeting people from the lore that we’ve been waiting to meet.”

It’s going to start answering questions that we have.

They won’t be telling a massive story in the DLC, but it is a satisfying narrative.

Gameplay loop is the same, but with a lot of fresh stuff.

Challenges won’t just be combat based, but will all be difficult. Some may be on the level of the Holt Slayer Gate.

There will be a secret weapon that you will have to do a lot of work to unlock, and it’s tied to a piece of meaningful lore.

just to get it all in writing for future reference

[elder raven]

SOUL RHOMBUS

[obsidian shard]

Slayer Gates Fully confirmed

[solar spoke]

good point, I'm at a loss

[wintry forge]

SOUL RECTANGULAR PRISM

[versed quarry]

soul dodecahedron

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-ruffalo-mark-ruffalo-olivia-wilde-mark-ruffalo-olivia-mark-olivia-wilde-mark-olivia-gif-12964201297578448742

[solar spoke]

soul DnD dice

[wintry forge]

I think they were already officially confirmed, I could be mistaken tho

[elder raven]

SOUL TESSERACT

[obsidian shard]

yes they were... but reaffirming

[warm ibex]

they're reaffirmed every stream lol

not actual slayer gates though, it doesn't seem

[wintry forge]

AllSpark from transformers?

[twilit stone]

Sounds better than the base game in every way so far

[harsh egret]

[obsidian shard]

I mean Its the Base game PLUS

And the Base game is already Fantastic!

[versed quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doomguy-doom-the-dark-ages-true-gif-9488978076129629800

[twilit stone]

Yeah I'm more saying that in regards to TAG which for a lot of people was worse than the base game. Wasn't for me but I digress

[obsidian shard]

fair enough

[harsh egret]

They be cooking

[warm ibex]

Secret weapon theory

[wintry forge]

Could Hugo have been referring to a SEPARATE weapon, not the new weapon that we all interpret with “rhymes with STEER”?

Maybe this secret, unlockable weapon that has a “lore” significance is a separate weapon

That’s my take

[obsidian shard]

Waiting for the Hato post

[harsh egret]

Omw

[solar spoke]

I think I've got it...

It's an atom bomb

[wintry forge]

Because why would we have to unlock the big new weapon for the DLC that changes up the “Doom Dance” ?

Seems like it should be given in the story. Unless it’s a separate, second weapon that Hugo is referring to

[versed quarry]

sending hato back to the content mines

[solar spoke]

serious actually, what if it's a more conventional chainsaw? Like dual wielding the sheild saw and a chain saw sounds cool

[wintry forge]

New chainsaw name…?

[warm ibex]

I think the secret weapon will be different from the Spear since that seems to be a prominent part of the expansion. Also thinking it may be related to the Slayer's past, maybe a modified weapon from the original Doom games

[thin hound]

Yeah a chainsaw sword and shield

[obsidian shard]

What if its a Piece of wood

[wintry forge]

Fallout has a chainsaw called Ripper. Maybe it’s a chainsaw

[twilit stone]

I want a battle axe

[solar spoke]

brainsaw? Gotta cutr those new cacos with something

[twilit stone]

Axes are sick

[thin hound]

Like King Novik’s?

[harsh egret]

A relic from his past as someone likes to say

[twilit stone]

Something like that yeah

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-eternal-doom-slayer-samuel-hayden-doom-eternal-samual-hayden-arc-complex-gif-941717540896092665

[obsidian shard]

From his past:
Soul Cube
Demonic Crucible
Sentinel Axe
Samuel Hayden's Corpse
Chainsaw

[wintry forge]

Chainsaw

[harsh egret]

Samuel Hayden's corpse for sure

[versed quarry]

W\hat weapon would be turned into a spear?

[twilit stone]

Imagine its the artefact from Resurrection of Evil lol

[warm ibex]

No weapon would be turned into a Spear. The Spear and secret weapon are likely two entirely different tools

[solar spoke]

Hayden's rusted arm with a sharpended finger as the spear

[green estuary]

specifically the middle finger

[solar spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-the-dark-ages-doomguy-doom-slayer-absolute-cinema-gif-11606677432043572262

[thin hound]

I don’t know if the middle finger really works the same when the hand has only 4 fingers

[wintry forge]

Josh’s face when Hugo went on about how the secret weapon is “tied to the lore” was golden

[obsidian shard]

i got it

[wintry forge]

Piece of meaningful lore might not imply he ever used it or it’s an important part of the lore. Maybe its relation to some event in the lore is what Hugo’s implying

[wintry forge]

Gif it rn

[twilit stone]

It better be the demonic crucible Istg that thing was wasted in Eternal

[final dune]

guys idea if its a spear
maybe its just a guy with really long hair thats also really gelled so its sharp and hard

[obsidian shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/971218217852862544/1464057388402212959/josh_concerned.png?ex=69741532&is=6972c3b2&hm=92272b33640783cda6ac2c5c771ff65ab009677e5e1cb765343682c91bbf7b2a&

[wintry forge]

Probably not sadly. They don’t have a name for it

[harsh egret]

HAHA

[twilit stone]

UGHHH.. why can't we have nice things

[thin hound]

I do think a crucible sword would be an epic decision

[obsidian shard]

"He's so getting fired for this one" look

[solar spoke]

Josh is the new weapon, that's why he's doing that face

[harsh egret]

i cant bro

[versed quarry]

Doomguy swinging Josh by the ankle

[wintry forge]

“Bro you said you wouldn’t say that part” ahhh look

[solar spoke]

it's a serious "Oh God, no" face lol

[obsidian shard]

[wintry forge]

Poor Josh sweats his ass off during these parts of the stream

[thin hound]

Management is unforgiving, thankfully Hugo is indispensable

[solar spoke]

of course, most of the fan base would riot if he were fired (me included)

[thin hound]

Absolutely

[wintry forge]

This man won’t get fired. We’d all just follow him to his next direction job

[warm ibex]

he loses half his weight in sweat in the last three minutes of every stream

[frail bloom]

Secret weapon huh

[obsidian shard]

Hugo word hi way around things pretty specifically too lol

[frail bloom]

That's totally Daisy, she's the new weapon

[thin hound]

I’m pretty sure though Hugo has complete control over what gets spoiled, Josh was probably just surprised with what he revealed

[wintry forge]

Daisy’s head as the melee weapon

[frail bloom]

I'm soooo glad you have to earn it

[thin hound]

That would be disrespectful

[frail bloom]

Y'all don't understand how good that is

Ithought that was the case with the bfc before base tda

But it's for reals this time

[wintry forge]

I’ve been trying to think and I truly have no idea what secret weapon would have any more significance, unless it’s somehow related to Jekkad in some way

[thin hound]

Like the Unmaykr?

[frail bloom]

The fact that you have to earn a super weapon is amazing

[obsidian shard]

Serrats neck on a spear

[solar spoke]

the broken down remains of an N64 will be the new weapon

[frail bloom]

He said it's tied to the lore but it could be a weapon made in a specific place that ties to the lore, or specific person or demon

[wintry forge]

Serrat kebab

[obsidian shard]

2 Shield Saws!!!

[frail bloom]

It doesn't have to be a weapon he wielded before

Or it could

[thin hound]

And also the bones of his wife and son, right?

[wintry forge]

Totally. I don’t think the weapon itself is tied to the lore, just that the weapon relates to something important in the lore

[solar spoke]

spin dash with both

[versed quarry]

I mean the sentinels used wintherin scales to make their rocket launchers. It's not out of the question that they ate them too.

[wintry forge]

2 new weapons in a dlc? Count me in

[obsidian shard]

Weapon Will be important in the lore (it doesnt exist yet)

[frail bloom]

Ok time to change my whole dlc paragraph

[frail bloom]

I forgot yeah that's a good amount

[solar spoke]

probably, he's gonna watch us guess and laugh at us lol

[frail bloom]

That's more then Tag

[final dune]

dude why was hugos dlc word rodent

[frail bloom]

Lmao

[thin hound]

Is the maggot returning?

[wintry forge]

Well it’ll relate to an important part of the lore, maybe not the weapon itself being important to the lore. It’s “tied” to a piece of meaningful lore. So maybe a certain important place or event

[harsh egret]

twitter post is out yippe

[thin hound]

Or are we getting a giant demonic rat boss like in Painkiller

[solar spoke]

what if it's a weapon we've seen on a wall but never used, like a certain argent guitar for instance...

[wintry forge]

Poor bro has no name yet 🥀

[thin hound]

Wait yeah how could a weapon actually relate to Daisy if he really said rodent

[wintry forge]

Was the weapon an accident? 😂

[harsh egret]

Well since you're an undercover id software employee, i believe u

[thin hound]

Maybe a bunny cannon that launches the Argent D’Nur equivalent of killer rabbits

[versed quarry]

I mean that was the entirety of The Dark Ages

[wintry forge]

And Horde (notice his essay was already typed out and sent before the stream even ended)

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-james-doakes-sus-face-james-doakes-suspicious-james-doakes-reaction-erik-king-gif-14404252364057104628

[versed quarry]

Horde V Samir spy V spy antics ensue

[wintry forge]

I just wanted the word of the day to be Cyber Mancubus 🥀

[frail bloom]

Boi y'know I no diff 🤪

[wintry forge]

No blood punch to save us this time

[frail bloom]

Check me out

All we know abt DLC so far:

GAMEPLAY:
• Will expand mechanics from the base game in both combat and exploration
-Will be meaningful changes and not tacked on
-"from 2016 to Eternal"(to some extent)
-will increase mobility options

• challenges are not just combat based, willbe different in many facets. Some may be Holt slayer gate level
  -new melee weapon(apparently rhymes with steer, it's a spear)
• secret weapon that will take some hard work to get, and tied to meaningful lore
  -the new things added change the game drastically and playing without them is hard to do for Hugo
  • Slayer gates are returning in some form
  EXPLORATION:
  • Exploration has good backtracking and is especially required in this dlc(to progress meaningfully)
  -There will be a hub(most likely the Kreeds ship)
  • The puzzles are really fun
• a tool(mechanic) given will lead to some interesting traversal puzzles, not necessarily skill based like Eternal(but seems to be a huge factor either way based on its emphasis, and that will influence the puzzles and movement options in this dlc)
  -lots of secrets and "optional" content that unlocks over time, not all at once when the campaign is finished
  -some Metroidvania-esque elements
  -only 70% of the dlc campaign can be finished on a first playthrough, replays are needed to unlock all content
  ENEMIES:
  • There will be new ai that shake things up
  -Hugo replied "interesting" to a comment hoping for an Archvile in dlc(hopefully flame boi returns)
  STORY:
  • We will most likely be hunting the high council in dlc
  • more chapters from the codeces in eternal and 2016 told, will take steps to build up to 2016
• will answer some questions regarding the lore
• not a massive story, but a satisfying narrative
• meeting people from the lore we were waiting to meet
  -Hugo said "armor" as a hint
  -cutscenes are infact more in line with 2016/more immersive and in first person
  -Marok is involved in the dlc(implies a larger role)
  -we will see more cosmic realm in the dlc

BOIIIIIIIII

[thin hound]

Well this was before the UAC and we already got armored mancubi, so that’s a definite no

[harsh egret]

wall of text jumpscare

[frail bloom]

This is right under the limit

[crude sparrow]

I just wanted to ask about the news xD

[frail bloom]

@crude sparrow

[wintry forge]

They always rewrite their enemy background codexes to make them fit each game

[twilit stone]

i'd rather a satisfying narrative than a "massive story"

[harsh egret]

#the-dark-ages message this is the news from today specifically

[thin hound]

True, but I just don’t see them doing that, especially since the mancubus has like the most TDA variants of any demon already

[frail bloom]

Gonna be so peak

[crude sparrow]

That secret weapon sounds sick

[frail bloom]

I just love that I can earn it

[versed quarry]

Definitely not an ID employee. Right...

[frail bloom]

He also said it feels good to use

[crude sparrow]

Also hyped for the difficulty spike

[frail bloom]

8 months of tuning in right here

[wintry forge]

Arachnotrons were stated to be created from the Spider Mastermind, but not in TDA. This is present with many different enemy varieties. They could if they wanted, but I don’t see it actually happening because of the abundance of Mancubus varieties as is (to your point)

[thin hound]

Yeah exactly what I was thinking

[frail bloom]

Cyber cosmic manc

Did I cook

[thin hound]

Armored cosmic baron

[wintry forge]

I think the Armored Mancubus is the stand in for the Cyber Mancubus. Unless they go a cosmic route

[frail bloom]

We both cooked

[frail bloom]

It def it, atleast imo

[wintry forge]

That’s up to @obsidian shard

[frail bloom]

Just like the battle knight and dread knight

[twilit stone]

(aka Eternal's best demon)

[frail bloom]

I actually don't know what I would consider best demon

In eternal, haven't thought abt that

[wintry forge]

Ur mom

[thin hound]

Dread knight might be my favorite demon in DOOM, but it’s hard to say for sure with so many peak designs

[crude sparrow]

Chat I got this incredible idea, what if for the armored cosmic baron you wouldn't be able to just break the armor with brute force but you'd have to hit a weak spot at the right moment to break it. Doesn't that sound amazing and fun?

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/toothless-laugh-toothless-smile-toothless-smile-fixed-gif-23203474

[wintry forge]

Sorry, still been recovering from Horde’s ur mom attack. Had to deflect

[solar spoke]

best demon is armoured baron, come at me

[thin hound]

A good choice for sure, I love them

[wintry forge]

He’s pretty fun

Yall sleeping on the Cursed Prowlers

https://tenor.com/view/sonfys-shrek-gif-15350610703372212021

[twilit stone]

my favourite class overall are Hell Knights, but Dread Knight's just a Hell Knight on steroids (literally)

[twilit stone]

Cursed Prowler hate is forced

[solar spoke]

cursed prowlers are the same colour I am when dealing with them

[thin hound]

Prowlers are also some of my favorites

[wintry forge]

(I’m joking, but I don’t dislike cursed prowlers)

[thin hound]

Same, I like cool variants

[crude sparrow]

Honestly I think I like the archvile the most

[harsh egret]

me sitting here unironically thinking this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/491020118780805140/1464063333140402310/EsJ1W4SU0AAVFgJ.png?ex=69741abb&is=6972c93b&hm=0afd5a31331ca47523aa4b636102ea66e52acfd2c583d9f03f68dfa0581e2c00&

[wintry forge]

Prowlers are awesome. I hope they return in some cosmic variety, especially since their face is very similar to the giant cosmic cacodemons’. And they fire purple energy

[obsidian shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1182151938314358856/1399628765826519092/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp.gif

[thin hound]

Harvesters and cosmic prowlers, make it happen ID team

[crude sparrow]

I like their warbly screeches

[wintry forge]

Same. Very glad they stayed from 2016’s mp

[thin hound]

I was listening to demon sounds earlier, and the prowlers have really cool ones.

[harsh egret]

i should make a video "why cursed prowlers are actually great"

[thin hound]

I also noticed that some demons like the pain elemental actually sound like they’re speaking the Hell language

[wintry forge]

I’ll sub

[crude sparrow]

I love how all the demons in eternal sound unique

[twilit stone]

Eternal Pain Elemental's would be second for me to Dread Knights, genuinely one of the best updated designs

[wintry forge]

Take one for the team

[thin hound]

Stone imps, prowlers, and pain elementals are my favorites

[harsh egret]

the lazy is keeping me away from making doom vids

[versed quarry]

also, completley unrelated, but new wave style music fits really well with the cosmic realm

[harsh egret]

but im sure its a topic i can make a video on anytime I want cuz nobody will ever make a video about it

[wintry forge]

You’d KILL it!

[thin hound]

I think cursed prowlers were meant to be an annoyance if they hit you, it’s good game design

[crude sparrow]

Also is it weird I thought pain elementals were actually super heavies for the longest time?

They're so tanky like can you blame me

[solar spoke]

they do look tanky tbf

[crude sparrow]

Yeah and also since the caco is already a heavy I thought, "well the bigger and badder version of him is probably a super heavy then right"

[wintry forge]

I’d want them to be if they appeared in TDA dlc

[crude sparrow]

Yeah but they'd have to have the mullet

[thin hound]

I’m think it’s crazy that Maykr drones are fodder that require 3 chainsaw fuel, they flip flopped between heavy and fodder between updates

[twilit stone]

as the 64 version

[crude sparrow]

All of your chainsaw fuel for literally less ammo than if you just headshot them normally 💀

• you miss out on the health refill as well

[wintry forge]

Definitely!

[thin hound]

I think they’re the only monster that’s an exception to the chainsaw rules of Eternal, and it bothers me

[crude sparrow]

Demonic trooper:

[thin hound]

They’re ambient

[twilit stone]

now i need a video defending demonic troopers

[thin hound]

I guess the tentacle can be chainsawed, so an exception

Yes I liked demonic troopers too, especially when they got buffed

[crude sparrow]

I mean the tentacle is also a fodder

[thin hound]

No ambient

[crude sparrow]

Still, I don't see why you shouldn't be able to chainsaw them

[thin hound]

Maybe screecher zombies also can’t be chainsawed?

[crude sparrow]

I think that would just be kinda counter productive

Since you're meant to avoid them anyway

[uneven dragon]

gahhh this dlc sounds so cool i cant believe i wont be able to play it

[thin hound]

I think having some fodder demons that can’t be chainsawed and some ambients that can is fine, but 3 for a Maykr drone is absurd

[twilit stone]

probably the same reason you can't glory kill them, just didn't have time to implement it

[thin hound]

Do you think we’ll see more Maykr drones in the DLC?

[crude sparrow]

Maybe it's to encourage you to go for the headshot instead of just pressing the insta kill button like you do with the other fodders

[thin hound]

In TDA they were kind of like the demonic troopers

[crude sparrow]

As enemies? I don't think so

[thin hound]

I guess it depends on the direction the story goes

[crude sparrow]

Doomguy is still the sentinels ally rn, so I don't see why the maykrs would go after him

Maybe to try and capture him again

But we saw how that went the first time xD

[thin hound]

One big take away is that Joshua Boyle himself called Doom 3 grandpa speed, totally true

[mystic barn]

Wasn’t able to tune into stream today. Any exciting notes?

[harsh egret]

yes! #the-dark-ages message

[mystic barn]

Fantastic stuff, much appreciated

[thin hound]

Hey mate, any progress with the Painkiller stuff?

[mystic barn]

Yeah, I sent a DM to you the other day. Might not work unfortunately. As far as I can ascertain, the stems aren’t like in DOOM where they’re mixed. Painkiller takes advantage of the Wwise program and literally mixes individual layers as you play. It may explain why there’s no OST

[thin hound]

Oh sorry, didn’t see that

[elder raven]

decided to take a small pause on my current preset because its very frustrating at times to set up another thing im making for the preset so i decided to make a new one until i get back to it

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/doom/images/1/17/Deag_Ranak.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20200222204314 i dont have a solid idea yet but all i know is that the best hell priest has a role in it

[wintry forge]

Chat I totally missed if Hugo said they’d be streaming next week. Does anybody know?

[harsh egret]

Yup Josh said see yall next week at the very end

[wintry forge]

Preciate it 🙏

[obsidian shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/971218217852862544/1464076729265029182/The.png?ex=69742735&is=6972d5b5&hm=eca962bdb008d2f4f460bb611ef13f86a27d22cf1f7bd5fadc20be3644bfca93&

[dark thunder]

WRETCH

I have to know what the secret weapon is

[obsidian shard]

Its larry

https://tenor.com/view/larry-larry-cat-chat-larry-meme-chat-meme-cat-gif-10061556685042597078

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/cubefunk-cube-spin-animation-drawing-gif-22979313

[thin hound]

The companion cube, yes

[elder raven]

playtesting time

[ancient atlas]

Real

[mystic barn]

Cosmic BFG? I remember coming up with the idea that the Cosmic BFG (seen in early concept art) could draw together a massive arena filled to the brim with enemies by shooting out small black holes. This would then allow the player to swap to the BFC and shoot it at the group, demolishing them all in one fell swoop

[wintry forge]

I doubt we’d have 2 bfg variations. However, it would be SICK to see some of those concepts being put to use, they looked pretty cool

A “secret weapon” honestly sounds like it might be a super weapon to some extent

[elder raven]

its either a super weapon or an alternate of the reaver

[wintry forge]

the second weapon in that class that was “cut” could’ve easily been intended for the dlc to begin with

[fleet spruce]

the smell is coming from the oven, and man it smells delicious

[obsidian shard]

Theirs so much 😭

DOOM: The Dark Ages – DLC Info so far:

COMBAT:

• Slayer Gates are returning.
• Arch-Vile is making a return!
• Mobility will play a major role in the DLC.
• Every new mechanic will meaningfully affect gameplay (similar to the Sentinel Hammer in TAG 2).
• The gameplay loop will still be the same, but with fresh new stuff.
• A secret weapon that will require work to unlock. The weapon is tied to DOOM lore
• New Spear weapon featuring a teleport or leap ability.
• Possible Axe weapon (not yet confirmed).

EXPLORATION:

• We will most likely see more of the cosmic realm.
• There will be a hub area — likely the Kreed Maykr’s ship.
• Exploration will have a stronger role in overall progression.
• Challenges will also based on Combat, Exploration and Puzzles!
• DLC will be more metroidvania-esque; lots of backtracking
• Additional mobility options will be available, and some sections will require them.
• Levels will feature more backtracking, more unlocking of the space.
• Roughly 30% of content will be inaccessible until the DLC’s story is completed.

LORE:

• Major lore questions fans have asked about will be pushed forward.
• Some connections to DOOM (2016).
• Teases relating to the Sentinel Civil War, the Wretch, and “armor” (Interesting...)
• We are going to meet people from the lore that we have been waiting to meet.
• Marok will have a role in the DLC.
• Cutscenes will be more immersive, possibly in first-person.
• The Order of the Six (the High Council) are likely our targets.

[vapid lodge]

this is one hell of a summary

[obsidian shard]

haha ya, apoligies if its a bit "Spammy"

[vapid lodge]

nah all good with me

[versed quarry]

Hugo is probably the cook in his family because he’s so talented

[wide siren]

kids: ”what’s for dinner dad?”
hugo: ”dinner? interesting…”

[vapid lodge]

I understood that reference

[obsidian shard]

This is so stupid, im Dying 😭 🤣

[versed quarry]

Average four years between meals (not counting DLC)

[obsidian shard]

Context for the "Secret Weapon"

"tied to a meaningful piece of lore, that we're going to share with you"

Thanks to @solar drift for pointing it out: "A piece of lore that they're "going to share" with us makes me think it's something new."

No matter what the Hype is COOKING.

Once again Thank you Xous! (and Apoligies for the ping)

[wintry forge]

This opens up a LOT more possibilities, thanks for sharing!

[obsidian shard]

All credit to Xous

but uhh ya np

[fleet spruce]

A full meal course that becomes a whole ass banquet

[flat elm]

I hate backtracking, especially in Quake 2

[warm ibex]

I hate bad backtracking

but the tda dlc seems like it'll have the good kind of backtracking

very much looking forward to it

[fleet spruce]

Quake 2 ran so Half Life would fly

[warm ibex]

Half Life 2 soared so Half Life 3 could never release

[fleet spruce]

lmao

[random sand]

once again, we really are just making this doom the dark ages: eternal edition. hey i ain't complaining. i love both

[stone pasture]

I CAST HOPIUM, COPIUM, AND AMERICAN CHEESE BURGER

[obsidian shard]

I see what you mean but Hugo actually talked about that on stream funny enough

[random sand]

lol. not surprised

[obsidian shard]

Same with "X DOOM game is better" and how Some of the community being on each others throats

[obsidian shard]

He said its Dark Ages with more/new tools btw lol

[random sand]

i mean that's not wrong but by the sound of it, those tools really just make it a mix of TDA and Eternal lmao. again tho, i ain't complaining. that sounds perfect for me

what intrigues me is i've heard some of the dlc can only be played after completing the main game. i wonder why that is

[obsidian shard]

Ya It'll be interesting to see what thats about!

Same with all the Lore Stuff

[random sand]

my guess is they want you to finish the main story before the DLC's finale but who knows

[obsidian shard]

Damn! Never thought about it like that!

[random sand]

now i actually wonder where the DLC will end. i've heard it will be about killing the high council of hell but where will it go after that. i know Doom Slayer's time with the sentinels ended with Valen betraying them all leading to most of 'em getting trapped in hell but that's not for a while after TDA

perhaps it will end with Marok dying which starts Valen's descent into madness or something

[solar cairn]

It is unlikely that Marok will die, as if the time interval is too short

[random sand]

it's already been said that Marok will have a bigger role in the DLC. that has to be for a reason

[slow roost]

i heard there was a livestream for a dlc reveal, where can i find it?

[obsidian shard]

DLC hints

No reveal yet

[solid beacon]

Yes.

[split gate]

https://tenor.com/view/this-peak-is-this-peak-so-peak-peak-it's-just-so-peak-gif-1360442599844596686

Absolutely loved the concept of Slayer gates, so good to see them return

[random sand]

I do wonder how they'll be in TDA. Will be interesting

[meager vortex]

dlc hint dlc coming 2026

[fleet spruce]

DLC hint: you will be switching between Doom Slayer and Master Chief during the levels

[void hornet]

Anyone else has encountered a bug that makes it so the shock demons don't transfer their shock to other demons when they die?

[solar cairn]

If Hugo is allowed to make a game about the Civil War, it’s as if it’s more appropriate to see it there

[random sand]

wdym by "allowed"? he's the director. he's the one calling the shots here. and also, Marok wouldn't be getting screentime for no reason. he'll be there for a reason. either because it'll lead up to his death later or it'll happen in the DLC

[fleet spruce]

you know what, with Marok's involvement being confirmed I'm led to believe he's gonna die in the final level and just before the DLC ends we're gonna get a shot of Nekravol leading into game about civil war

sounds like setup enough to me

[solid nacelle]

Nekravol you say....
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1378414770763595933/1464227518004596821/YouCut_20251120_152608947_1.mp4?ex=6974b3a4&is=69736224&hm=123e30b4e109c4c561dbad46e3804e22fffca3ed6a1a6b4371becc27548cfb59&

[fleet spruce]

holy shit

[fading bone]

👀

dude i want this dlc so fucking bad i cant wait

[alpine pilot]

where is the doom

[solid nacelle]

The doom is all around us

[twilit stone]

The doom is the friends we made along the way

[fleet spruce]

correct

[frail bloom]

I deleted it from my dlc paragraph but I still think there's a likely chance we see this

Like, 30%

[solid nacelle]

It would undoubtedly be a wasted opportunity to not mention it

[obsidian shard]

That is what basically kicks off the civil war!

So it would make sense

[frail bloom]

Ok I guess I'll add it back

[solid nacelle]

I mean for the game to include it or at least reference it

[signal grove]

https://i.imgur.com/G9NOTqN.png
Controller deadzones and feedback.

The stick input in Dark Ages seems to be 6-bit, meaning only 64 steps are accessible for the sticks. For reference, PlayStation controllers are 8-bit, with 127, and this is lower than standard Xbox controllers. This is a limiter for any common resolution controllers use, an especially those advertising thousands of steps.

Some requested options.
Options for the deadzone size, acceleration curve, angular restriction, and acceleration jump are requested.
The vertical sensitivity slider is weighted lower than the horizontal, which limits the sensitivity you can play at if you want the X/Y axis to be even.
Reducing the weapon wheel open delay minimum to 0ms.

Movement deadzone/thresholds are strange, and the curve is unnecessarily slow. The fuller diagonal movement is good(the restriction is soley an issue with the low resolution), but the thresholds could be made radial, and the curve made linear.

The camera issues are the same in 2016 and Eternal.
Dark Ages is a great game, but getting some of these improvements would improve the experience for console players/controller players on PC.

[frail bloom]

Oh oops

[solid nacelle]

No big deal

[frail bloom]

I have no idea what any of this is saying but it sounds like it would make the game better

[signal grove]

More aiming options for controllers can improve accuracy with them, and reducing the weapon wheel delay min to 0ms can make swapping to all 6 weapons instant instead of just between 2(mattered more for Eternal than DA).

[frail bloom]

Ah I understand now

Yeah why not

[flat elm]

What the point of chronospike upgrade for the Impaler?

I think salvage is better option

[fading bone]

chronospike is for the montage clips

(yes salvage is far and away the better upgrade)

[frail bloom]

Chronospike is if you don't wanna slow down time with your shield or do both

People overlook how you can slow down time anytime you want

[heady trout]

ima be 100 most of the "choose one or the other" upgrades are painfully one sided

i appreciate the variety and idea

but like, who uses pincushion over ricochet

ricochet is hilarious bc sometimes you'll put a demon in glory kill state that was either off camera or behind something

ricochet made dealing with Cacos way more digestible, cause i already shield sawed them to avoid the bs wall attack but now i get rewarded for bc I can fix my necessary tunnel vision with ricochet and damage heavy or super heavy demons nearby

[fading bone]

i think the rocket launchers choices are both good

[harsh egret]

I like pincushion

[fading bone]

for different reasons

[harsh egret]

Yh

[mystic barn]

Pincushion deals damage to more demons than ricochet does. Getting the mastery is therefore easier and quicker

[heady trout]

outside of that though

i don't see the advantage over ricochet in arenas full of demons

[fading bone]

its a pretty big benefit of it

[frail bloom]

Because it doesn't cater to you, it caters to people with different strengths. I will agree, some upgrades are redundant, but they're not all mostly one sided

Pincushion is more useful if you're fighting superheavies

And spread is instant

[idle swallow]

what do people mean when they call TDA ''slop'' lmao
I see a lot of negative reviews on steam calling it that
they definitely don't mean it in the AI kind of slop

[fading bone]

its idiots on the internet being idiots

who cares what they say

[idle swallow]

I know, I just wondered what they meant by calling it slop

[fading bone]

zoomer words

[green estuary]

The fact that it’s much easier to trigger and doesn’t require you to be without your shield for extended periods
Which makes it more and more valuable over ricochet the more demons in the arena

[fervent maple]

People call something slop when:

A) It's boring, derivative, and clearly based on following trends, rather than doing something new.

B) They don't actually know how to articulate that they don't like something or heard it from a youtuber. This is the more common one.

[obsidian shard]

AKA its B

[versed quarry]

I don’t get why people are unable to go “this piece of media isn’t for me, but that doesn’t mean it’s terrible”

[solar cairn]

Most likely, they expected Eternal 2

[fervent maple]

It's hip to pretend to hate everything

Which makes actual criticisms sink under the mud and makes liking something a moral problem for a select few

But I think I've beat this horse one too many times by now lol

[meager vortex]

they are losers

[idle swallow]

meanwhile I don't really bother reading people's opinions on something or watching youtubers review it. I mainly watch gameplay and if it looks cool to me I will buy it to see if I would like it

I was like that with TDA and boom, I'm enjoying the game

[versed quarry]

Yeah I feel like getting opinions from YouTube is really dumb

[harsh egret]

As anyone should he doing

But no...

[meager vortex]

people called doom the dark ages slop they computers and wallets poor

[versed quarry]

I mean there’s also the fact that people got upset upon seeing Thira in the trailer

Wait no they didn’t call it “slop” for that

They called it “woke”

[harsh egret]

Ok tbf u cant call ppl poor just cuz they cant upgrade their pc for tda lol

[fading osprey]

Bullshittery!

[versed quarry]

No legitimately

[meager vortex]

even they hope play gtx1060 doom the dark ages

[fading osprey]

I know

[harsh egret]

What does this have to do with some people calling it slop

[fading osprey]

WHY WOULD YOU DO SMTH LIKE THAT AND SAY “yeah it’s fine”

[frail bloom]

Ye idk abt poor

That wouldn't fly

[meager vortex]

i just read they forum 80%~90% they don't understand why game using rtx gpu they want play gtx 1060

[versed quarry]

Wdym

[fading osprey]

Call it slop cuz there’s a singular female in the game

[versed quarry]

Because they’re sexist

[fading osprey]

In the perspective of those people

disgusting…

[versed quarry]

Yeah

[harsh egret]

And why should anyone care what they have to say

[meager vortex]

that is not answer

[fading osprey]

Exactly

[frail bloom]

If you wanna see ungrateful just look at Hugo's recent stream and go in the comment section

[harsh egret]

Why do yall care so much to look through comments where u know people are gonna say stupid shit xd

What is really the point

[frail bloom]

I don't care, I'm making an observation

[harsh egret]

Especially now after its been many months since release

[versed quarry]

Is it just that they’re angry that he didn’t spoil the entire DLC

[meager vortex]

if they blame female charaters that is stupid

[frail bloom]

That's one of them

[harsh egret]

I mean u care about looking at negative reviews and comments, i just dont see what the point is in doing that

[frail bloom]

No I go to the comment section bc I wanna see what ppl are talking abt and it's flooded with stupid stuff

[obsidian shard]

my reddit post in a nutshell "Disappointed and mad at id that they haven't given a release date yet"

[frail bloom]

In a stream that had 400 ppl when airing

[harsh egret]

Ok, then u care too much to talk about the negative reviews and comments then xd

[frail bloom]

Where are these people coming from

[meager vortex]

they just want farming clown points

[versed quarry]

They didn’t “blame” Thira, per se, but rather they were angry she wasn’t heavily stereotyped and sexualized.

[frail bloom]

Yeah y'now when 80% of the vid is filled with negative comments that can get annoying

[obsidian shard]

Hugo brought up how the community has gotten increasingly toxic last stream.

[frail bloom]

It's actually just annoying

[versed quarry]

Wait what

[foggy fable]

Stream comment sections are always cesspools. They could show half-life 3 on stream and you’ll still have people hating. It’s best to just not go into comment sections

[harsh egret]

And spreading the talk about their negative opinions is just not the greatest way to spend ur free time imo xd

[frail bloom]

What are you talking abt

[versed quarry]

Yeah, it’s not great for mental health.

[frail bloom]

I was adding onto the conversation

[meager vortex]

that is sad

[harsh egret]

Like the other day when u told me to go watch some negative video about how the narrative in the doom games isnt progressing or sum

[foggy fable]

The curse of a game franchise getting bigger is it always attracts more trash. So just try and ignore the trash and enjoy the games.

[harsh egret]

^^

[frail bloom]

Yeah bc it's something to talk abt, if you don't wanna engage, then leave

[heady trout]

this

[frail bloom]

I actually don't really care if you want to engage or not

[harsh egret]

We can talk about the positives instead
Talking about stupid ppl being negative is just not fun

[heady trout]

^

[obsidian shard]

Its for the general community nothing to do with TDA btw

"Dark Ages isn't Eternal, Classic DOOM is the only true DOOM, blah blah"

In the end it doesn't matter,

EVERY game has been extremely well received! and As stated Hate gets pushed more, so its best to look the other way

[frail bloom]

Ye here it's easy

[meager vortex]

but clown points steam is gone

[obsidian shard]

Anyone hyped for id anniversary?

[foggy fable]

(Also dlc takes actual time to develop live service mentality has ruined so many games. It will come out when it’s nice and ready)

[harsh egret]

Yeess

[meager vortex]

toxic steam user activity is low

[frail bloom]

Did they say if they were gonna change the ripatorium presets

[harsh egret]

Yes

Didnt say when tho

[versed quarry]

True. I get that live service makes it easier for indie devs to get a foothold in the market, but if you’re an AAA studio, just make a fucking full game.

[frail bloom]

You think it's possible if they can add more slots

[harsh egret]

They mentioned it would be 6 community made ones instead of 3 community made ones and 3 dev ones

[frail bloom]

Like what if I wanna play Blitz 3 months in but it's gone

There should be some system that saves them forever

[obsidian shard]

Hoping Ripatorium 3.0 lets us "Save" Pre-sets!

[harsh egret]

Tell Kroniid to upload them here
Or it itself

Do it urself i mean

[frail bloom]

Wow good advice

Convenient

[foggy fable]

Maybe even a in game way to download uploaded presets to play could be cool

And an upvote system so the popular ones are on top

[frail bloom]

Revolutionary

[harsh egret]

I didnt think about it and I'm actually not home for the next 2 days lol

So i cant do it myself

[meager vortex]

id 35years event well awsome!

[frail bloom]

No I want it to be a qol change ingame, I ain't asking for them so I have to type them in again

It's not finalized but it should be possible

[harsh egret]

I mean yh that would be nice ofc

[frail bloom]

Like bob said, saving them and the most popular is on top

Some upvote system

Not leaderboard

[harsh egret]

Like the mod browser for eternal

[frail bloom]

Yeah

With your own thumbnail ingame

[obsidian shard]

Should have the Trailer ready for the end of the day today, i'll keep you updated!

[harsh egret]

Yeah they should add that

[obsidian shard]

YES

[frail bloom]

Oh awesome Sneaky Ik it's gonna be peak

Is this final or your second draft?

[obsidian shard]

Final Draft + Touch ups

[frail bloom]

Oh then I better lock in

[harsh egret]

For eternal does id have to manually accept or deny mods that ppl upload?

[frail bloom]

Everyone gonna be blown away

[harsh egret]

Cuz with custom thumbnails im sure ppl would try to do some sus shit

[frail bloom]

Hm

Yeah like the doom 1 and 2 browser last year

[obsidian shard]

Just finished recording More Gameplay, (needed more Glory kills)

[frail bloom]

Crazy stuff

[frail bloom]

Stop spoiling me it already sounds too peak

[harsh egret]

Dies from peak

[foggy fable]

It’s made by sneaky of course it’s peak

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-of-peak-peak-gif-12206121329264304817

[obsidian shard]

PeakyJaycool when?