the-dark-ages

[frail bloom]

Too late but it's a woman

Idk what you're gonna do with that but

[green estuary]

oh she gone lmao

[frail bloom]

Now you know

[unkempt dragon]

No matter who it is, they should be respectful towards others

[frail bloom]

I don't know what to say I'm kinda tired

I've been animating like it's a 9-5

My brain feels like slushie

But it's for da peak

[unkempt dragon]

what are you working on this time?

[frail bloom]

A lil smt for a collab

Gonna be fire

[unkempt dragon]

👀

[frail bloom]

[versed quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/heavy-tf2-kitty0706-okaycool-chillware-gif-24988460

I trust it'll be peak whatever it might be

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/rainn-wilson-shh-secret-prank-gif-17131726

[obsidian shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1274237827592228865/1449649491958566942/aewjyu.gif

[fleet spruce]

holy shit

[warm ibex]

a collab, you say? interesting...

[frail bloom]

Er ye smt with Hugo

Ye I work at id

Nothin' to it

[versed quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/write-that-down-taking-notes-school-universities-university-gif-17937210

[elder raven]

im sure whoever is doing this collab is doing a ballad with it

[obsidian shard]

If I could track this convo on a graph there would def be a Arch

[versed quarry]

What does that even mean

[obsidian shard]

[heady trout]

an Arch
ville

[versed quarry]

but what does that mean with the "track this convo on a graph"

[heady trout]

https://tenor.com/view/archvile-intro-doom-eternal-demon-gif-16987418

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/5-fire-gif-3829929806075762598

[heady trout]

5

[fading bone]

WHEN DLC???

[warm ibex]

[heady trout]

okay so im starting to believe this game has a bigger problem than Eternal in the ''what the fuck killed me'' department sometimes

i wish after u died they told u what killed you, like the projectile and demon that did it

bc i was killed by a cosmic baron, who shot a projectile, THEN got closer to me and THEN the projectile hit me and i suddenly was at 5 health

the projectiles in this game are so slow the enemies use them to double team you which is funny

Cosmic Barons will actually run alongside their projectiles if given the chance

[obsidian shard]

.... I think the projectiles are fine....

[heady trout]

i too think they are mostly fine

[obsidian shard]

If they're too slow you can change them

[heady trout]

its just this particular one has me straching my head

like seriously the Cosmic Baron pulled ofd a Goku with the spirit bomb bc he shot it, charged at me and THEN the projectile hit me

idk why today ive been getting continuously killed in the weirdest ways

okay wtf is the parry window for the cosmic barons last attack

i continously keep missing it

jesus christ

no this is different, are there Cosmic Baron melee attacks I cant parry?

[crude sparrow]

I KNEW IT

HE FINALLY CONFESSED

[heady trout]

okay the last one is fucking tight if you choose to not be constantly moving backwards

dont try to ''stand and fight'' the cosmic baron, instead run away from it and fight

not gonna shit on TDA for this doe, every modern doom game encourages walking away from your targets constantly

[crude sparrow]

I mean standing still has always been a death sentence in every doom game

[heady trout]

they really try to make the Slayer as cool as possible in the corraxes and shit, but truthfully ur just shooting while running away half the time

like from a third person perspective it would seem less cool

i wish they didnt try to speak of the Slayer as this brawler 80% of the time when its clear he runs and shoots, most of the time running back from the demons

[crude sparrow]

really you're only backing up from the demons you cant oneshot

[heady trout]

so not the fodder

[crude sparrow]

otherwise you can just keep holding w

[crude sparrow]

most heavy demons too tbh

[heady trout]

Resurrection has been driving me nuts recently, ive been constantly dying from the weirdest things and the cosmic barons parry window if you stand still is weird on the third attack

i stand still bc its cool but apparently its easier to just run back so the cosmic baron DOESNT do that third ground slam attack with a weird parry window

at least I can stand still with the cyberdemon and box

[crude sparrow]

I've noticed that melee attacks that also cause an AOE on the ground sometimes damage you even if you parry them perfectly

[heady trout]

yeah thats ass

[crude sparrow]

battle knights do it a lot

[heady trout]

sometimes they damage the shield too

which means you can lose it under the right circumstances even if you parry properly

[crude sparrow]

losing your shield while in melee range is basically instant death 💀

btw you actually take less damage from the back so if you're ever without a shield and getting charged by a baron just turn your back to him and hope you can tank it

[heady trout]

thats weird

[crude sparrow]

it's so you dont feel like you got cheaply killed from behind

but you can also abuse it by just... turning around lol

[obsidian shard]

Eternal had the same thing actually

Works for the Atlan too lol

[crude sparrow]

I think if they wanted to fix it so you wouldn't be able to abuse it they could make it so the damage reduction only applies to demons that havent been on your screen yet

[heady trout]

this, i actually like this a lil bit lol

okay so the last Baron ground slam is so slow you can just walk back, ur not forced to parry it

holy shit the chainshot TRIVLIAZES Kreed Makyrs boss fight

[green estuary]

what doesn't trivialize kreed's boss fight? he's a pushover

also isn't the chainshot just straight up worse in this fight since he doesn't give you a bunch of parryables for most of it

[inner wigeon]

Yeah katsu is right on this

If you have an a and d key that fight is baby mode

[fading bone]

yeah i was gonna say i just hold right and spam cycler and melee when he falters

easiest boss fight

[green estuary]

it's funny because the game has a hydrogen bomb and a coughing baby boss almost back to back lmao

like enhanced ahzrak will beat you up and take your lunch money, whereas kreed kinda just dies

[lost hemlock]

Yo, does anyone else have a problem where you beat the health demon in chapter 9 but it still shows 99% ?

[heady trout]

yay third phase enhanced asscrack pulled something out of his asscrack to destroy my shield with one attack and get three hits in

like theres one attack he does, that 2/3rds of the time fucks my shield for no reason

enhanced asscracks fight suffers especially from the brink of death mechanic

like if im reaching 5 health constantly bc i made mistakes, then please just kill me instead, dont babysit me

i find it interesting how all my problems with enhanced asscrack arent the fight itself, but the brink of death mechanic and forcing the player to sit through a long Atlan stage before you can fight him

yeah the last phase is very dubious but manageable

[fleet spruce]

meanwhile I die there because of my greed

I try to hit all the eldritch spikes for armor and hp

and die sometimes because of that

[random sand]

How the hell do you die from that

[fleet spruce]

Parry too late and get hit

[random sand]

Ahh, the ones in the ahzrak fight. I typically only go for them when he's far away

[fleet spruce]

I have a bad habit of throwing it to destroy the spikes and retracting it at the last possible moment to parry lmao

[random sand]

Lmao. Bit or a thrillseeker i see

[quartz thunder]

Still waiting on that DLC

[random sand]

should be a trailer for it soon

[quartz thunder]

Finally

Idk what they got going on but hopefully they locked in

[random sand]

i believe there will be an xbox developer direct the 22nd. it's possible it gets shown there

[meager vortex]

https://youtu.be/Wd1tevNW73k just like this?

[random sand]

yeah

[meager vortex]

oh yeah

[random sand]

it's not confirmed but highly likely. and honestly if it doesn't show up here then i'mma be mad

[twilit stone]

my birthday is that day so it'd be a nice gift lol

[meager vortex]

but next month id 35years event

[random sand]

Nice

[meager vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-beautiful-gif-8929913636784913500

[random sand]

That is another oppertunity but i doubt it'll be then

[fleet spruce]

at this point anything is possible

[meager vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-monkey-gif-17161736773310556283

[random sand]

True. But considering most if not all doom tda showcases has been on xbox showcases, the developer direct seems extremely likely. Especially now. They've had so long to work on it. A trailer there feels almost guranteed

[fleet spruce]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1441456807036846152/1450655116242849944/scream_if_you_love_3.gif

[random sand]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-james-screaming-lebron-james-yelling-nba-lebron-james-screaming-gif-2259314201606716528

[meager vortex]

i think eternal have a a lots of the skins

that day id 35years event

[fleet spruce]

i still use world spear slayer skin

[meager vortex]

let me see

[fleet spruce]

blue-cyan gradient

[meager vortex]

i want a see

give me a screenshot

[fleet spruce]

well damn

thank you vega

[random sand]

Is that the blue one?

[fleet spruce]

yeah

[random sand]

I love that one too

[meager vortex]

i send friend request for you

[coral orchid]

They should make one for serrat and the atlan cause the plain gold skins are kinda boring

[meager vortex]

will be dlc later

[gleaming coral]

unpopular opinion

doom dark ages music >>>>> doom eternal music

but eternal music still be peak

[harsh egret]

i agree

[gleaming coral]

https://tenor.com/view/doomguy-doom-doom-slayer-doom-the-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages-gif-14901082521966246439

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-guy-gold-thumbs-up-doom-slayer-gif-8707887579565707887

a couple of my friends dont really like the eternal ost all that much but they loved the tda ost

it just be like that sometimes

[gleaming coral]

valid

The music of Dark Ages is peak.

infernal chasm

peak

[twilit stone]

okay but TAG music >> TDA music tho

[random sand]

agreed. i'll give an even bigger hot take. people hype up doom eternal's ost way too much. it's good but people pretend it's one of the best osts in gaming and when you ask what songs they like they say TOTTFIY and Meathook and das it

[gleaming coral]

Respectable, but I prefer the one from Dark Ages

[gleaming coral]

It's one of the best video game soundtracks, but so are those of the Soulsborne games, for example, and even the Pokémon soundtrack for being so mythical and iconic.

[twilit stone]

those aren't even Eternal's best tracks imo. Hell on Earth, Metal Hell, BFG10K, Final Sin, Cultist Base, those are Eternal's best

oh and Super Gore Nest

[random sand]

at least you mention others. i like Hell on Earth. the rest don't hit me all that much tho

[gleaming coral]

fact

[gleaming coral]

yeaaaah and the unrealeased 264bpm

[random sand]

compared to all games known to man, i'd say it's like top 20

[twilit stone]

yeeeeees, and they replaced it with Consumption, a track I'm sure ya'll don't even remember at all

[random sand]

i dont

[twilit stone]

my point exactly

[fleet spruce]

https://youtu.be/l3LYfT9kFco?si=BBoJ1KSiKrJihmpS

[gleaming coral]

peak song

[hearty edge]

meathook is overhyped asl

sgn solos all day everyday

i do generally prefer doom eternal's music over doom the dark ages' but both r great

[fading bone]

i fucking LOVE meathook

that sound basically is doom as far as im concerned

[random sand]

I like meathook. It's TOTTFIY that gets overhyped. It's good but nowhere near the height it reaches with some people

[fading bone]

still very good though

the intro leading into it is what makes it so good too

but after the intro part it does start to go down a bit for me

meathook and bfg division are just nonstop bangers

[slender night]

Trouble in Terrorist Town Fear is You

[random sand]

Most don't mention the second part either. Only the first. I personally like it

[random sand]

I fucked up with the letters i know😭

[slender night]

I used to read the acronym as tottify

Doomguy undergoing the process of tottification (whatever that is)

[random sand]

We should use "tottification" more. And no, we don't know what is is

[hearty edge]

i'm not gonna lie the chanting on meathook is great but honestly i feel it is kinda samey on the rest

which kinda sounds hypocritical i'mma be honest cuz i love bfg division

and i do like tottfiy but mostly the beginning and near the end

[heady trout]

thank you, its a good song but its overhyped and overshadowed other great Eternal songs

also the fact it plays SO much across two whole stages too

[hearty edge]

super gore nest my beloved

[heady trout]

you could say this for hell on earth too bc it plays in Final Sin as well, but that song is more varied and the Icons boss theme works to spice things up

[slender night]

Everyone sleeping on the Icon of Sin theme

Wtf

Bro I was just about to say I've never seen support for it and you immediately drop that

[heady trout]

Valen's son's theme goes pretty crazy

[frail bloom]

The boss theme?

Ehhhhhhnh

[slender night]

It's tense as heck it works so well

[twilit stone]

I can't express how good Hell on Earth is

[wintry forge]

The track? Yeah, it’s one of the best in the ost imo

[twilit stone]

the level as well honestly, Eternal's art direction peaks there too imo

[hearty edge]

i read ethernal wtf

[wintry forge]

Oh absolutely, it’s very hype as a tutorial stage

The track is very fitting in Final Sin as well. Glad it’s also one of the few songs that come back around later

[hearty edge]

i really like hell on earth on the fact that launches you straight into action introducing 2 heavies and most of the fodder whereas in doom 2016 u only got fodder

[wintry forge]

2016 took 3 missions to introduce the Hell Knight, but that was all for the 3rd level which is a tad underwhelming

However, the “fodder” in that game weren’t really fodder as much as they were just smaller-class demons. They were still decently deadly enough tbh

[hearty edge]

yea i was boutta say

2016 imps u all can burn in hell literally

[twilit stone]

honestly 2016's way of introducing enemies is kinda weird. Like why is the Arch-vile equivalent introduced before Cacos and Revenants

[hearty edge]

werent they introduced on the same level

no no they werent right

[slender night]

The Summoner was in the BFG Division level, then came the Revenant in the tower, and the Cacos in Hell

[wintry forge]

Nah. Caco was the Sanctum and Revenant was Tower

Nah summoner was Facility, mission 4

[slender night]

I mean I think the Cacos and Revenant are deadlier tbh. And more iconic. The Caco being shown in Hell is absolute peak

[twilit stone]

But I honestly feel like Revenants at least could've been introduced in the Foundry

[slender night]

Yeah BFG Division plays there

[wintry forge]

No it doesn’t

You’re thinking of Tower

[twilit stone]

Harbinger plays on 4

[hearty edge]

although to be honest the summoner i wouldnt really consider the arch vile equivalent as they are just heavies that get in a glory kill state easily with the lock on burst

[slender night]

Oh yeah I am

[slender night]

They serve the same function as DOOM 3's Arch-vile

[wintry forge]

They were supposed to be the stand-in for the Archvile. Which is why they even hit the same pose lmao

[flat elm]

In the game files, the summoner is called archvile

[hearty edge]

yea that is true but they're a lot less deadlier is what i was tryna say

[wintry forge]

Yeah they weren’t pushovers at all like they are in TDA. They’re paper-thin in dark ages for the most part, aside from the stone imps and chain gunners and such

[fading bone]

still deathless up to the first hell mission

i am cooking in this run

[frail bloom]

I like having some push over enemies now and then

Like basically all the fodder

And I wanna throw their ragdolls into other demons for the next game

Cuz cool

[hearty edge]

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-gif-25068351

[harsh egret]

imagine a glory kill like that

[wintry forge]

Glorykill with weapons when

[slender night]

2016 Mastermind

[harsh egret]

real

[wintry forge]

Exactly

[harsh egret]

that shit was cool im surprised they didnt do it more after

[hearty edge]

mfw crucible

[harsh egret]

he always uses melee tho

[wintry forge]

Nah heck no

[elder raven]

imo the next step in doom after we exit the medieval ages would either be cyberpunk or in space

[hearty edge]

i mean it is technically a weapon

[harsh egret]

space cyberpunk doom with that black hole BFG from the concepts

[slender night]

I want DOOM games that have DOOM settings again personally

[wintry forge]

Crucible was the biggest letdown in Doom imo

[hearty edge]

yea i feel that

[harsh egret]

agreed

[hearty edge]

just an ez instakill

nothin more

but to be honest it was a pure argent energy sword i can't see much other alternatives to that

[fleet spruce]

I'm still sad that the eldritch BFG didn't make it into the game

such a cool design

[harsh egret]

yh its def cooler than the tda bfc imo

but it might've been too much

we are just getting introduced to the cosmic realm and all that so it makes sense they might save smth like that for the next game and not go all out from the start

[fleet spruce]

i think they scrapped because it was very similar visually to previous bfgs in overall design, the crossbow still retains the BFG shape which is a nice detail

[hearty edge]

wheres the eldritch bfg i think i havent seen it

[twilit stone]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-агаповерил-gif-27009975

[harsh egret]

in game it had the potential to look and sound and even play completly different

kinda like the bfg from amid evil i forgot the name of it but the empowered version throws out black holes and shit

[fleet spruce]

I get what you mean

scythe from black labyrinth was much cooler tho

[slender night]

Quake 4 moment?

[fleet spruce]

you literally slash across the planes of existence

[harsh egret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/491020118780805140/1462851677572042885/colin-geller-cg-dtda-bfg-v1-01-f1.png?ex=696fb24a&is=696e60ca&hm=3eb273f088e44f67f6dcbd9a64c55cd126698b900773ceff1e0233fd5ae7cbdb&

[frail bloom]

Slab of fury

Is that a black hole

[harsh egret]

yh

[frail bloom]

Boi if this was the real gun, powerscalers would go crazy

[hearty edge]

well that looks amazing

[frail bloom]

Anytime a black hole is mentioned

Maybe I prefer the cosmic design over the crossbow

[harsh egret]

how long do i have to wait for another link so Vega doesnt shoot me

[frail bloom]

I think I do

[fleet spruce]

I love that semi organic look

[twilit stone]

bfc is just a lame ballista

[harsh egret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/491020118780805140/1462851876960604427/colin-geller-cg-dtda-bfg-v1-00-bfx-pass.png?ex=696fb279&is=696e60f9&hm=b41de81aba14ac65f2d4a0017558320c39a419b67ba6092d927e52eb808418fa&

[hearty edge]

idk if it would rlly change much cuz powerscalers already have doomguy at like 4d since doom II

[frail bloom]

A laser??????

That's sooo sick

[frail bloom]

With basically no evidence

[harsh egret]

yeah

tho i love the idea of it shooting black holes more

but this could be really sick as well

[frail bloom]

Looks like they had grenades

Next to the shield throw input

A ball with 5 uses on it

[hearty edge]

vague statement of the icon of sin's death shaking hell

[frail bloom]

Yup yup outerversal clears most of fiction

Fun fact!!!!!!: da slayer uses his weapons for da torture of da demons bc he so sick like that and he definetly can just punch his way truuu boii

[harsh egret]

also sue me but i like this UI a lil more than what we got, it would need some slight adjustments but i like it alot lol

[frail bloom]

I'm more interested on the grenade icon

[twilit stone]

it has way more flair, style and color. TDA's is generic medieval fonts and white lines

[frail bloom]

I guess they wanted the less obstructive and simplistic version

But no harm in having a hud like the one above

I'd like it as an option

Hud customization is lacking

[twilit stone]

like Eternal's old HUD, there's a mod for that but it's still not exactly right

[harsh egret]

well one thing i dont like from that screenshot is actually that the utility on the bottom left has too many diff colors, samer with the flail
i would just keep all of it the same color that the weapon UI on the bottom right is and the rest unchanged

and the health and armor lowered down a little

but yeah i agree the ui we got now is a lil generic

[frail bloom]

I think those grenades could work as an addition no?

Especially for ripatorium maps

[harsh egret]

idk

[twilit stone]

the fact we still cant disable the annoying ass centre notifs and mission objectives also doesn't help. TDA's hud looks bland and cluttered at the same time to me

the doomguy face is cool tho

[frail bloom]

I never notice the mission objectives

[harsh egret]

ye idc about them either

[frail bloom]

Is the center stuff the stuff introduced in tag 2??

With the melee pips

[twilit stone]

i do, sticks out like a sore thumb to me. I like having basically nothing on the screen except health, armor and ammo

[frail bloom]

It wouldn't hurt to be able to turn them off yeah

[twilit stone]

no they're like at the very top, like when you get a codex entry

[frail bloom]

Oh well what would be at the top that obstructs your view

Not many flying enemies

Or high elevations

[twilit stone]

t

[harsh egret]

those pop up when it doesnt rly matter tho

[twilit stone]

fuck i am terrible at typing today this is so embarrassing lmao

[frail bloom]

Idk they should add an option to turn it off yeah

I don't see why not

[harsh egret]

its like u find an item, ofc there should be a pop up
but yeah a disable button wouldnt hurt

the more options the better

[twilit stone]

like it normally wouldn't bother me that much but the fact is 2016 and Eternal HAVE the options to turn 'em off and TDA just doesn't for like no reason

[frail bloom]

It's def weird for a game with an accessability award

[green estuary]

I'm so glad they deviated from this whole arcadey style UI

[harsh egret]

yh the bottom elements should all be the same colors as the weapon ui on bottom right, then it would be perfect

imo

apart from the hp and armor

[hearty edge]

actually dude yea

[twilit stone]

it ain't perfect but still has more going on compared to the modern Resident Evil looking hud currently in TDA

[hearty edge]

as u said it needs some adjustements but it is really nice

[harsh egret]

i did say at some point i was gonna make a mockup of what my ideal UI would look like but im too lazy icl

i aint in the mood for graphic design atm

[fleet spruce]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/663786269825826836/1462857718347071540/keen_eyes_-_DOOM_2__Hell_on_Earth_01_19_2026_20_32_17.jpg?ex=696fb7ea&is=696e666a&hm=75d81e9644b3505f61c941a84095123ead71011ca93c8aee865fd6def0d9efac&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/663786269825826836/1462857762290794730/keen_eyes_-_DOOM_2__Hell_on_Earth_01_19_2026_20_34_00.jpg?ex=696fb7f5&is=696e6675&hm=94d069a86d8e6427f53e289fea317d7422ea932e7ff5666f0b12eb9ec70e8f30&

spire of nerathul be like

[solar spoke]

That cosmic BFG looks neat, is that a black hole in the bottom right one?

[harsh egret]

id think so yh

[raw slate]

ngl one of these wouldve been better but im glad i got to experience the bfc

[slender night]

Heretic reference is peak

[mystic barn]

Woah, what wad is this? Reminds me of Citadel at the Edge of Eternity from CC1

[flat elm]

I really want Nerathul demake so bad

[frail bloom]

I want a dark ages demake in general

All the enemies guns and ost's in classic doom style

I'd play the crap outta that

@mystic barn Hello. I wanted to ask if you'd send @elder raven all the superheavy demon(Vagary, agaddon, cosmic baron, komodo, cyberdemon) sfx, it's for a "project". If you don't want to that's okay, we just don't know where to look atm and no one has made a comprehensive tda sfx vid.

[elder raven]

it'd be greatly appreicated

[alpine pilot]

where doom

[strong moth]

Man, the Ancestral Forge final encounter after you get the Fissure rune… that NEVER fails to hit for me

[rapid trench]

hi

[mystic barn]

I’ll see what I can do

[ebon belfry]

Just made a new Ripatorium preset called Dante’s Inferno 2.0 if anyone wants to try it

[frail bloom]

Sure I'll try it

[topaz oriole]

What's everyone's favourite weapon?

[thick anvil]

Crucible

And super shotgun

[topaz oriole]

Nice

[hearty edge]

it's absolutely great ong

[hearty edge]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-benjamminstv-brah-brah-tried-to-fit-in-bro-tried-gif-1959184728455926936

[hearty edge]

ssg of course

although i also do love the chainshot

[alpine pilot]

the accelerator with mega cell and stabilizer

[foggy fable]

The stake launcher

[mystic barn]

Impaler or explosive blast shotgun

[warm ibex]

impaler from a gameplay standpoint. skull crusher pulverizer is my favorite weapon design in any game ever though

[grim cloud]

still waiitng on my youtooz dragon toy, about two months and no shipment

[green estuary]

Rocket launcher

The coolest rocket launcher I’ve ever used in a video game

[harsh egret]

same, the slayer one arrived late december but it seems like the serrat one is a bit delayed

[harsh egret]

cycler and impaler are my favs

[grim cloud]

okay its not just me, was suppose to be a xmas gift for one of my little shitlings

[harsh egret]

[heady trout]

im in abyssal forest and i got everything but ONE secret and i legitimately have no idea where it is

or what it is

its probably a 1 up thing

but like yeah im lost

[green estuary]

you going for 100% UN or something?

[heady trout]

lol fuck that

im just 100% my nightmare save, already got gunpletionist

(also trying to get all the lame steam achievements)

like idk Eternals achievements were also lame i suppose (outside of some joke ones) but Dark Ages steam achievements are the most basic one's yet

[analog python]

Is all of them an option?

[glacial flame]

I kinda hate that I’m not enjoying dark ages. It’s so button mashy with the shield and weapon switching. Game lacks focus and that snappy feeling eternal has. I completely understand they did sth different which I love but the execution feels undercooked.

Will say graphically this game is sexy as hell with path tracing on

[thin hound]

Maybe try increasing the game speed?

[frail bloom]

I felt it's the opposite with button mashing, you have to be delibarate

If you're button mashing, the game goes against that

That "snappy feeling" comes with getting more experienced at the game, but there's a period where one has to play around the sandbox and figure out how far you can push the game

But y'know it's a different feeling and it's not gonna strike everyone

[heady trout]

agreed

my first hours of dark ages were fucking troublesome

its best to wait for the parryable attack and then strike

[frail bloom]

Yup

[fleet spruce]

Rylayeh

Decent wad although very heavy on hitscanners

[iron walrus]

[fleet spruce]

Funny you say that when Eternal has you pressing million buttons per second

if anything Dark Ages is far less demanding in execution department

[fading bone]

you should try not button mashing and being more pecise and deliberate with your actions to form your combos because button mashing can easily get you into trouble in this game

[obsidian shard]

Also you don't need to weapon swap

Most of the time It will slow you down and will typically make your DPS worse

Also depends on how you play

[fading bone]

yeah theres some situations where its good to swap but generally sticking with one gun for a majority of the engagement is how its designed

also playing at higher speeds make the gun swapping feel much better

[green estuary]

yeah this is something I don't really agree with

the game allows you to stick with a preferred weapon or set of weapons, since they're all strong and you don't run into ammo concerns

but combat is never so ridiculous that you can't even afford to take a second to swap a weapon if you want to

[fading bone]

are you not agreeing with me or the original guy?

[green estuary]

both

[fading bone]

oh well youre saying what i was saying/agreeing with

[green estuary]

not exactly
I don't agree with your statement that says the game was designed around sticking to a single weapon in a combat arena

[fading bone]

comparitively to the other games i would say it was

you can swap around for sure but it definitely works totally fine to not swap or to swap very little

[green estuary]

allowing you to stick with a single weapon and being designed around that are two different things

[fading bone]

ok. i think its a bit semantics and not really a line i feel like debating.

i think we are basically 99% in agreement here

[green estuary]

Idk
I just feel like the game is done a massive disservice if you choose to do what you say it’s designed around

[obsidian shard]

I like to swap weapons multiple times during arenas

[green estuary]

Like yeah, the game doesn’t have animation canceling like eternal or 2016, but if you’re sticking with one or two weapons the whole time just because the game allows you to, you’re absolutely selling the experience short

I feel like people act like it’s such a massive pain to switch weapons in this game when you still swap faster than a bunch of the other shooters out there 🥀

[fleet spruce]

swapping speed is comparable to classic Doom actually

[fading bone]

I'm just saying the guy said he doesnt think swapping feels smooth so i offered an alternative to see if he'd prefer that. i also swap around a lot when i play

[twilit stone]

besides using one gun is fun in this game, it's more designed around it

[fleet spruce]

perhaps people are just way too used to do quake ass combos after Eternal

[crude sparrow]

I swap basically after every shot 😭

literally like I'm playing doom eternal

[thin hound]

I swap slightly less often than Eternal, but still as much as you should for a fun gameplay experience

[crude sparrow]

yeah I mean now that I think about it I dont swap as much as in eternal, since in that game you'd swap between 4 weapons just to take down one heavy demon, here though I think I swap after every kill, which tbh most of the time also only takes one shot

for super heavies I like to combo my guns and sneak in melee hits inbetween since they're more tanky

[random sand]

I just swap whenever i feel like i've used the ssg a bit too much and should give the other weapons some love too

[obsidian shard]

Been using the empowered rocket launcher recently

And uh

https://tenor.com/view/always-sunny-frank-oh-my-god-i-get-it-gif-22328165

[random sand]

I do use that one too sometimes. It's funny to fight a vagary with it and just run at it and spam rockets at it

The ssg isn't very effective against the vagary so i tend to use other guns to deal with it. Mostly the ravager

[obsidian shard]

It Shreds Vagaries really good, same with the Chainshot (my pookie)

Recently I've been using Cycler and.... It's peak, I love it

[fleet spruce]

Accelerator my beloved

[obsidian shard]

REAL

[random sand]

That one's cool too yeah. Think the only weapon i really just don't use is the grenade launcher. I'm glad a doom game finally has a grenade launcher but it doesn't fit my playstyle so i just don't use it

[obsidian shard]

Ya same lol, Ive used just about em all... Except the GL

[fleet spruce]

I love that Accelerator behaves like D3 machine gun but on steroids

[obsidian shard]

It's cool that the Prime 1 Statue Slayer comes with the Chainshot and Cycler tho

And of course the 2 "marketing" guns

(SSG, Pulverizer)

[obsidian shard]

REAL

[fleet spruce]

ah yes, the boomstick and headcanon

[random sand]

My figure came with the flail, the super shotgun and the skullcrusher (and the shield obviously)

[obsidian shard]

Elite

[random sand]

Yup. Got him and my eternal slayer figure both on my shelf. I'd show a picture but, yk

[obsidian shard]

Ya, same with mine, Display unit my beloved

[random sand]

I really gotta get some more doom merch. I got my figures but das about it. I wanted to get doom slayer's helmet and the shieldsaw. Maybe eventually

[fleet spruce]

wish I could have gotten the helmet

I only managed to grab the limited edition gamepad

[random sand]

I literally looked at it and was planning to grab it then i look away for 2 seconds and it's out of stock

[crude sparrow]

my local game store still has the helmets

been a while since I've seen this much doom merch in retail stores

[cursive olive]

Where’s the dlc ?

[crude sparrow]

I actually have the first and only copy right here, planning to leak in about 4 minutes

[fleet spruce]

life is unfair moment

[random sand]

Yup. Well at least the thing is sold at other places too

Just for a higher price

[fleet spruce]

I tried to get it through marketplaces over there but only managed to find gamepad, and even then i waited till price was more than halved, mfs wanted 300$ for it

[obsidian shard]

Ya.... All things considered, colour me surprised

[obsidian shard]

I suggest Big bad Toy store! And of course the BGS if they still have some

[random sand]

Jesus fucking christ. Yeah that site got some stuff. $2000 for a statue😭

They ain't messing around there i see

[obsidian shard]

Ya fucking 2 and half feet....

Their 1/16 Dinosaur statues are INSANE

Like a casual 5k....

[random sand]

Yeah i see it. God damn

[obsidian shard]

[crude sparrow]

they should sell those 7ft tall doomguy statues they made for those conventions and stuff

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1029722699943124992/1463068031054778510/new-look-at-the-the-giant-doom-slayer-statue-v0-q64zcafq9gpe1.png?ex=69707bc9&is=696f2a49&hm=3ba18731920fc121064fb221e58250095ef34dc48ba70447fab7113783a159e8&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=720&height=960 okay this is maybe a little more than just 7 feet but whatever xD

forgot how tall they actually were

[random sand]

I don't think i can even fit this in my house😭

[crude sparrow]

make room

you dont need a ceiling xD

[random sand]

I'd just put him outside atp

[crude sparrow]

flex on all the neighbors

[obsidian shard]

I wonder where this thing is now

(same with the Eternal Archville one)

[crude sparrow]

probably at the id studio or something

[random sand]

Probably some warehouse. We need to free the slayer

[crude sparrow]

it'd be a shame to make something THIS cool and then just stick it in a warehouse afterwards 💔

[random sand]

Indeed. I know Id have doom slayer statues in the studio but not sure if there are multiple of them or not

[crude sparrow]

they have a big 2016 one I know that

[random sand]

Yeah. My guess is they have at least one for each modern slayer somewhere

[crude sparrow]

maybe hugo just puts them all in his house and keeps them there

lifesized atlan statue when

[random sand]

Might as well build a real one atp

[fleet spruce]

would be funny if one will be built, like that one Gundam statue in Japan lmao

[stone pasture]

SOMEONE POSTED A LEAK OF THE ARCHVILE IN SCREENSHOTS

[random sand]

what

[fleet spruce]

lmao

[stone pasture]

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[solid nacelle]

Very bold choice to turn the archvile into a Samuel Hayden themed vacuum cleaner

[meager vortex]

bold slayer

[warm verge]

i'm gonna platinum it, any tips?

[random sand]

rip and tear until it is done

[solid nacelle]

Dark ages is definitely the easiest in the modern trilogy to platinum

[warm verge]

deffinetly platinum it

[warm verge]

facts

[topaz oriole]

True I played eternal then started this and almost finished it and it's by far way more easy so I play at nightmare

[solid nacelle]

No multiplayer certainly helps

[fleet spruce]

I made Dark Ages look like dogshit by using FSR performance but it extends my battery life significantly

cause I'm running at 13w instead of 17w

theoretically it should be around 5.5-6 hrs now

I'll do some more math after seeing how much battery it consumed within 30 mins

i think i can squeeze out a bit more with 30 FPS lock...

[solar spoke]

I still want my life-size Atlan man cave. Id need to make it happen lol

[alpine pilot]

where doom

[meager vortex]

wait? what?

[solar spoke]

Life sized atlan that can also function as a home. It'll never happen but we all need dreams

doom equivalent of a trailer or campervan

[crude sparrow]

Microsoft has all the money in the world but won't make this a reality for whatever reason

Would it be a massive waste of money? Yes. Would it be cool as fuck though? Hell yeah

[crude sparrow]

Anything but plugging in a charger 💔

[fleet spruce]

That's what I do when I get home

[empty furnace]

they all would be if they didn’t have any fuckass multiplayer achievements

[fading bone]

lost my first life of the run to a good ol' random shield break into instant super charged rev shot

[wintry forge]

Was watching a video this morning on Doom TDA, and the guy stated that the Kreed’s ship becomes the Slayer’s fortress/ Hub from Doom Eternal. Why is this misconception so common? I see comments about it like every other day at this point lol. No hate at all, but they look nothing alike, so I’m very surprised this idea is so prevalent in the community, No shade to the person who made the vid, but it seems this misconception goes beyond the “casual” players

Again, no big deal. It’s just funny to me

[thin hound]

I think people are saying that the Kreed Maykr’s ship will function like the Fortress of Doom in the DLC, not that it will literally become it

[harsh egret]

yh especially when the eternal one is clearly sentinel-made

[wintry forge]

No, they stated it becomes the Sentinel ship he uses in Eternal

I’ve seen this idea quite a lot. Even in this discord alone lmao

[thin hound]

Yeah that makes zero sense, but I totally believe what I said above will happen

[wintry forge]

I mean, you see the inside of the Kreed’s ship, it’s clearly cross-shaped and has a very unique design

Far different from a more gothic floating-castle 😂

[wintry forge]

Definitely. I mean it’s very likely that’s the hub we’ll be getting

[thin hound]

I think it started out where someone said that the ship will be like the Fortress of Doom in the DLC, and people mistook that for it being the same thing

Watch Hugo pull a Ship of Theseus to prove us all wrong, and actually transform the ship into the Fortress

[fleet spruce]

similar case to dead bunny = doom guy anger

[wintry forge]

Not really, because with that at least there’s some truth to it

[solar spoke]

hey, if Meta are gonna cancel an Arkham Shadow sequel for AI glasses then MS could afford to give us this despite the cost. Give the fans the Atlan campervan now, we all need it

[fleet spruce]

both are common and blown out of proportions

[hearty edge]

doom the dark ages mobile port when

[fleet spruce]

when we get a PSP form factor Steam Deck Lite

running on an ARM CPU

[hearty edge]

english please

[slender night]

When phone become strong phone

[fleet spruce]

basically yeah

[wintry forge]

Every time I see “Doom” and “Mobile” put together, I’m just reminded that we still don’t have a Doom II RPG rerelease

[slender night]

Mighty DOOM revival when

[thin hound]

Mighty Doom official soundtrack release when

[fleet spruce]

doom eternal mobile port

now that'd be hilarous

[wintry forge]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-vs-superman-gif-12683651

[slender night]

I remember basically nothing but the menu theme tbh

Bobby Prince remixes based tho

[thin hound]

You can find the full OST on YouTube

[wintry forge]

Mighty doom didn’t deserve the death penalty

[thin hound]

But not officially

[slender night]

Indirect death penalty btw, the game could have thrived with offline servers

[thin hound]

I bet you don’t remember the music much because it’s a mobile game and playing mobile games on mute is very common

[slender night]

I did play it on mute a lot ye

[obsidian shard]

I know a TDA update for Mighty DOOM would go so hard

[thin hound]

Me too I think

[obsidian shard]

TDA remixed music for Mighty DOOM

[thin hound]

But the music is actually great, might be even better than IDKFA at some points

[slender night]

Incredibly high bar

[obsidian shard]

Instead of "remicking" and ruining the music they should Mighty DOOM-ify it!

(Remicks are bad and I stand on this hill)

[thin hound]

Just put the link in music

[fleet spruce]

they try too hard without actually understanding what Mick makes

it's often very random synths n shit

[slender night]

I don't think it qualifies as a remick since iirc it's a 2014 release, but I love IDKFA. Really good remixes. The originals though... cannot be beaten

[obsidian shard]

Or just mashing an Eternal track into a Dark Ages track

[fleet spruce]

oh yeah that too lmao

[obsidian shard]

It isn't, I mean like People "Remicking" TDA tracks

They could Mighty DOOM-ify them (I need more Mighty DOOM)

Also IDKFA on vinyl and CD when?

[slender night]

Remicking is something I am split on

Cuz on one hand it is REALLY interesting and (usually) not malicious

But on the other, it does destroy the artistic intent a lot of the time

[thin hound]

Is it just me or does Into the Void already sound like Mick could have made it?

[obsidian shard]

Oh yeah for sure.... But there are a few "Remickers" that don't even Credit FM...

Also like 8 Times out of 10 they remove the Elements that make TDA unique from the Other 2 OST's

[fading bone]

into the void was defintely the first song i was like "this definitely sounds like a mick song"

and wondered how ppl couldnt like it

[slender night]

It was the most Bobby song of them all imo and I enjoyed that

[obsidian shard]

Synthesized animal Sounds and Screams, Synthesized Water.... Ya I suppose

[slender night]

Obviously because the entire main melody is sourced from DOOM 1 but whatever

[obsidian shard]

Remicking Into the Void confuses the fuck out of me

[thin hound]

Re-Micksing

[fleet spruce]

not really? it's so heavy and there's definitely less focus on the synths

[slender night]

I've said this a few times by now but I want a singleplayer id game composed by Vrenna

[slender night]

(That is why we call it remicking)

[slender night]

For all the non-nerds all there, he partly did DOOM 3's and Quake 4's themes, and some of Quake Champions

[thin hound]

I get it, was just coming up with a different version

[fleet spruce]

Unchained Predator sounded more like an attempt at Mick style tho

[thin hound]

Not all of Mick’s tracks sound the same though

[slender night]

I got Quake II vibes from a lot of TDA's music

[obsidian shard]

SAME

[thin hound]

I think Into the Void is pretty close to how Mick would do a track for the Cosmic Realm

[obsidian shard]

Yes and no

[thin hound]

Like if you played it and told me Mick Gordon composed it, I would believe you

[slender night]

Also despising TDA for the lack of Mick is kinda weird

[obsidian shard]

I DEADASS know a Bunch of people that liked the music from Trailer 1 to the dev direct until they found out who was composing it (they didn't know who FM was)

[thin hound]

Yeah I think it’s tough because The Dark Ages is already so different from the other two in terms of being more medieval and less futuristic, so of course it’s going to sound different to some extent

[slender night]

Unusual behavior!

[meager vortex]

mick gordon is great but finish move team is great too

[thin hound]

And even if you for some reason think that The Ancient Gods or The Dark Ages music isn’t as good as Mick’s, it’s still better than 98% of other video game OSTs, so be grateful

[slender night]

Speaking of medieval music, Hexen II did banger medieval music so well without pulling out any metal guitars

[young schooner]

This is such a weird misconception to me, because like. It's very obvious it can't be. The Fortress of Doom literally pre-dates the Kreed's ship.

[thin hound]

By Hulshult?

[obsidian shard]

Also the fact THEY LOOK DIFFERENT

[slender night]

Hexen II has no Hulshult remixes. I mean the originals by Schilder

[young schooner]

The Fortress of Doom is a command station used by the Sentinels for military operations. ESR dating suggests the structure was built during the reign of King Danak, and spectral anaylsis of the Sentinel Energy signature used to power the various systems confirms this theory.

[meager vortex]

and mick gordon is very very busy guy

he have a lot work to do

[slender night]

Insane he delivered with TNO, TOB, 2016 and TNC despite them being back to back releases

[harsh egret]

i dont think he would be too busy for doom if he was still composing for it

[thin hound]

The best example of medieval heavy metal without guitars is the The Last Ballad of Damrod by Bear McCreary, go check it out

[slender night]

That's the Child's Play reboot guy isn't it

[meager vortex]

he have a alot of working and making games ost

[thin hound]

He did God of War

[harsh egret]

yes ofc but im just saying im sure he would prioritize doom over pretty much any other project

[meager vortex]

nah

[harsh egret]

bruh

[meager vortex]

he won't

[versed quarry]

Like we all get it. It’s a shame that Gordon got fucked over and is gone. But at a certain point you have to grow up.

[slender night]

Listened to an incredibly small bit and it does sound dope but I think I prefer Winnowing Hall. Of course I listened to like a few excerpts so take this with a grain of salt

[slender night]

DOOM is one of the biggest FPS franchises past and present, with three gaming juggernauts standing behind it. Would be incredibly hard to pass it up

[obsidian shard]

Sabaton???

[meager vortex]

yeah but mick gordon he won't i think

[slender night]

Won't what

[meager vortex]

make a another doom sound track again

[thin hound]

He could if enough changes happen in the future

[slender night]

Yeah, the hypothetical scenario here is based on the concept of him still working on DOOM though

[slender night]

I would have my doubts; this topic is ooooold and dried out by now though. Whatever he would do is something entirely up to him

[harsh egret]

im not saying he will lol, im saying in theory

[thin hound]

I think Mick said he’s still open to working on DOOM potentially

[harsh egret]

if he were to work on doom

[thin hound]

But there’s no way he would return any time soon with the way things are currently

[slender night]

Hooray for variety

[thin hound]

True, that’s another positive for other composers

Add that to my list of defenses for Levy, Hulshult, and Finishing Move

[meager vortex]

id and mick gordon they are great team but not right now

[slender night]

They should remake Sadistic for the TDA DLC tbh

[thin hound]

When the first TDA trailer dropped I actually thought that the music sounded like a blend of David Levy and Andrew Hulshult, and assumed they were doing it

[obsidian shard]

5 year old thing

[meager vortex]

nope finish move team working on dlc sound track

[slender night]

When the trailer dropped I paid no attention to the music and then never rewatched it until we found out who the composers were cuz I really did not care for TDA

[slender night]

I never said they aren't

[thin hound]

[meager vortex]

only we focus dlc

[slender night]

"Yay new DOOM whatever"
I slept hard on this game

[meager vortex]

ah! this week xbox developers show case

[harsh egret]

with a whopping 5% chance of the dlc showing up as a surprise

[meager vortex]

2days left

[harsh egret]

maybe even less

[obsidian shard]

DOOM: The Oligarchy Ages

[slender night]

I like those odds

[idle swallow]

this wallpaper is so peak

[harsh egret]

ill tune in for sure but for Fable, not for Doom

[thin hound]

Surely not

[idle swallow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/216692479531941889/1463221935461765191/Screenshot_20260120_202038_One_UI_Home.jpg?ex=69710b1e&is=696fb99e&hm=51f81f5131537034e2cf0024854045f581a55f5679d09027997978985efb0371&

[slender night]

Hexen 3 pls

[slender night]

Oh I did

[harsh egret]

i rewatched the first trailer like 20 times the first day

i was losing my shit

[meager vortex]

i heard update coming

[idle swallow]

I unironically would like a new Heretic or Hexen game
I 100% completed the remaster bundle and it was some of the most fun I had in 90s fps games

[obsidian shard]

New Forza and Fable is so real for me

[harsh egret]

yeah mr leaker from last year with credible "sources", where the master levels hm?

[slender night]

Who wouldn't? I just hope they maintain the original games' vibe instead of going the NuDOOM route

[slender night]

They already release bro it called Master Level for DOOM II check Steam

[thin hound]

I was working at a pizza place when I saw the trailer, and I hadn’t felt that excited in months because it was 2024, the most boring year

[obsidian shard]

That why we say "Possibly" and "May"

[slender night]

I did not care that much really

I think I was a bit thrown off by the medieval vibe; to be fair, I still kind of am

[idle swallow]

I heard that the Arch-Vile will come back in the dlc

[harsh egret]

was gonna get a racing wheel cuz ive been wanting to get into racing games but im just getting doom merch instead lol

[meager vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/archvile-intro-doom-eternal-demon-gif-16987418

[slender night]

Also damn 4 Hato pings in a row

[meager vortex]

flame on!!! oops!

[harsh egret]

[idle swallow]

same

I would like a game where Heretic and Hexen enemies coexist

the new Heretic expansion did that by adding the Chaos Serpents from Hexen

[thin hound]

They could combine them in a Hexen reboot

[meager vortex]

Xbox Developer_Direct 2026 This Thursday

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/kto-kounotori-kounotoritoken-lbow-storkholders-gif-25676483

[idle swallow]

Hexen's level design was truly, truly, truly confusing at times. I sometimes got stuck for so long at certain points even with guides and I had to watch guides pretty much the entire time
game was fun as fuck though

[slender night]

Did you play the sequels?

[idle swallow]

I have Hexen 2 but didn't play it yet

[meager vortex]

last year 2025 xbox developer_direct 2025 doom the dark ages show up

this thursday maybe dlc trailer show up?

[fleet spruce]

doom the dark ages 2 when

[harsh egret]

no

[meager vortex]

that is why maybe

[slender night]

I am awaiting DOOM 2017

[fleet spruce]

man they also dropped doom 4 somewhere along the way

[thin hound]

VFR, there you go

[slender night]

Oh right

[fleet spruce]

the forbidden fruit

[heady trout]

okay i got all steam achievments for dark ages

yippee, wasnt realy hard, just a nice lil mark on steam to show that i like this game alot!

[harsh egret]

i hope we get some better achievements for the dlc

[merry sapphire]

whats the latest news on the dlc

[warm ibex]

archvile

[obsidian shard]

"Eat Mancubus Children"

[harsh egret]

archvile

[merry sapphire]

sick

anything else though?

[obsidian shard]

Archvile

[obsidian shard]

DOOM Arena board game got an Update

[harsh egret]

[merry sapphire]

seen the post on twitter by hato sick news ngl

[harsh egret]

oh?

[obsidian shard]

Also theirs a New id/doom news account on Twitter

[harsh egret]

who is it?

[obsidian shard]

Was it seems

[harsh egret]

[obsidian shard]

"FPS Primal"

[hearty edge]

isnt it technically possible for d2016 port cuz of the igpu on the snapdragon 8 elite

[warm ibex]

no search results

[obsidian shard]

FPSPrimal

[warm ibex]

thank you jaygoat

I'll give them a follow, see if they go anywhere

[obsidian shard]

Np, they used to be id Repository beforehand, but Expanding is good,

Plus you got Hato dominating the Id Software News market so makes sense to expand

[warm ibex]

I wonder if there's any realestate to be taken on instagram

I'd like to expand coverage to non-video based social platforms

[obsidian shard]

Def is ngl

[warm ibex]

hmm. might give it a crack soon

[grim cloud]

two days till a potential dlc teaser maybe?

[harsh egret]

Most likely not

[obsidian shard]

2 weeks

[grim cloud]

2 weeks till what?

xbox direct on thursday.

[obsidian shard]

id Software 35th anniversary

[slender night]

I hope they use that to celebrate all things id and not just DOOM!

[grim cloud]

oh, was there a hint for something happening there?

[obsidian shard]

Commander Keen Remaster

[slender night]

They put out this really nice shirt last year that was like, a bunch of franchises as dogs, it had DOOM, but also Quake!! Wolfenstein!! Fuck, even RAGE!!! But not Heretic/Hexen

[slender night]

Happened a few years back and apparently sucked

[grim cloud]

just saying bigger audience during the direct, if nothing then we are probably getting the dlc in the second half of this year

[grim cloud]

it was mobile trash if i remember right

[slender night]

Nah an actual remaster of one of the first games, but it had awful reviews

[harsh egret]

Personally I think they r gonna drop a trailer sometime in the next 2-3 months but prob not at any event

[obsidian shard]

That was made by the Guy that made the Art wall at QCon and the Slayer and Daisy picture in the Fortress of DOOM

(unless I'm wrong)

[slender night]

What skins do you guys use for TDA? I'm running default for all of them and kinda wanna spice things up

[versed quarry]

SneakyJaygoated

[thin hound]

For my YouTube series I did default up until Resurrection, then I switched to all Nightmare for when the Slayer emerged from blood and the last 3 chapters

[obsidian shard]

Standard and Nightmare

[hearty edge]

they should add an atlan ripartorium

no

[versed quarry]

I don’t think it’d work that well

[frail bloom]

Imma go ballsy and say february

[frail bloom]

Not really a fan of that suggestion

Abt 3-4 enemy types, very limited combat

I'd pick it up and play a couple rounds before I never use it again

[harsh egret]

i think we are getting another major update sometime soon-ish and then dlc a bit after that

still wondering if they are doing ng+ before or after dlc

[frail bloom]

No I meant the trailer

The actual expansion is prob a like 3+ months after that

[harsh egret]

i reaaally dont see them doing a trailer that early before

but i could be proven wrong

[frail bloom]

I don't think it's early tbh

[harsh egret]

who knows, time will tell

[frail bloom]

Ofc I'm just speculating here and there but in my constructed timeline, they release the trailer 3 months before release, and I'm assuming it's releasing May, a year after the base game. Those 3 months before May land on Feb. So that's my educated guess but that's all it is, a guess

Ofc my previous speculation was that the trailer would release december and the expansion in february but I had to bump things up a few months bc it's larger than I thought

But like I said, educated guess

For the mean time imma make some archvile memes bc he's coming back

[random sand]

if they don't drop anything by the developer direct on thursday then i'mma be seriously confused. feels like the perfect time for it

it's been over half a year since tda released, we've gotten leaks about the dlc and people are starting to get impatient with updates. now would be the best time to get people hyped again

[harsh egret]

it was rumored that there will be a surprise reveal which will be for some indie game or smth, i really wouldnt keep my hopes up

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-angry-birds-gif-14664813930774351418

[harsh egret]

also the dlc can come out even in 8 months, its the perfect time to reveal it when its ready

[harsh egret]

what leaks did we get about the dlc tho lol
people getting impatient about updates are just stupid cuz this isnt a live service game

[frail bloom]

I'd say it's those ppls faults

It's best to not listen to them

Bc they don't know what they're talking abt

At all, they're just impatient

[random sand]

there's plenty. surely you've seen all the info about it. some of it might just be speculation but some is also pretty much confirmed as far as i've seen

[harsh egret]

all info we have on dlc is Hugo's teases and thats information thats known internally probably before they even fully start working on it

leaks is the wrong word

[random sand]

my hopes remain reasonable. i'm just saying this would be a good time for it

[frail bloom]

Ye they're more teasers

They're teasing stuff

[harsh egret]

leaks would indicate that the dlc is slowly coming out or smth

its just info they had for like 2 years prob

[random sand]

well whatever you wanna call 'em, it's info. and we've gotten alot of it

[frail bloom]

Which is why it's weird that people are getting impatient

[harsh egret]

yh but that has nothing to do with the release

[frail bloom]

Some of them are acting like id's been radio silent

[harsh egret]

they hinted about tda on the eternal streams yet it came out 5 years later

[frail bloom]

They've been saying all sorts of crap for months and apparently it's not enough

My gadamn dlc paragraph is huge as hell

And ppl are acting like "we have nuthin"

Actual brainrot behavior

[random sand]

reading and seeing in action are two different things. i personally just wanna at least see just something from it

[harsh egret]

is there people who actually say that, ive not seen that

[frail bloom]

There's one in Horde's latest vid

Some guy going "no dlc trailer yet?? INCONCEIVABLE"

[harsh egret]

i mean info

[frail bloom]

And then some stupid insults afterwards

[frail bloom]

I mean we all want to but it's prob not long

[slender night]

They hinted at Eternal in RAGE 1 yet it came out 9 years later

[random sand]

that's a stretch. i'd just find it strange if there's nothing in the direct but i wouldn't care that much. they're taking their time with it. but that would be the time i start going "should be getting that teaser trailer soon, shouldn't we?"

[frail bloom]

I think it's fair to think that but

[harsh egret]

no trailer is literally the most likely thing to happen by a mile tho lol

[frail bloom]

How soon is soon?

Y'know

Could be a week, a month

Could be half a month

Could be two months

[ebon cipher]

I remember seeing somewhere they were gonna show some DLC stuff in december and well...

[frail bloom]

No they didn't

[random sand]

i'm thinking after about 3-4 months from now my concerns would rise

[frail bloom]

That was speculation my friend

[harsh egret]

u sound like ur gonna be concerned in about 3-4 days lol

[random sand]

well it gotta come eventually. what, they gonna drop the dlc next year? they making a dlc that rivals phantom liberty or sum?

[harsh egret]

from the sounds of it they are in the polishing phase, idk give them their time, Q2 is probably most likely

[frail bloom]

It seems bigger than a normal expansion

[random sand]

how so? i've said that's when some slight concerns will start happening, but i won't care that much

[frail bloom]

And id works fast

[harsh egret]

like id rather wait until like the end of the year even

if i knew it would give them more time to make it good

[frail bloom]

If that were possible yes

But I feel that's unlikely

[harsh egret]

yh i mean they prob dont need that much time lol

[frail bloom]

There's a business to it too

Gotta appease to the shareholders or smt like that

[random sand]

For a teaser trailer? Idk about that. Even if they polish that shit greater than ever. That feels far too long. I'd say latest should be in about 5-6 months

[frail bloom]

I don't remember them doing one for tag

They straight up just drop a trailer

[harsh egret]

so then should be no concerns in 2 days when theres no trailer 😎

[frail bloom]

No teasers as I remember

[harsh egret]

ye but thats different

i swear i dont understand why so many ppl still try to make connections between tag and this dlc

it was a completly different situation

in like every way possible

[random sand]

Because tag is the most recent doom dlc we have. People can't help but compare them

[harsh egret]

..

[frail bloom]

No I'm saying this bc it makes no sense to have a teaser at this stage

[harsh egret]

horde help

[frail bloom]

When I see teaser it's like a confirmation of smt, and they're usually 30 seconds

And like you said earlier, teasers mean smt is not close to even the polishing phase

So I'm just rephrasing what you said earlier

[warm ibex]

these types of conversations are funny

[random sand]

Which would be good right about now if you ask me. We've known tda will have a dlc since even before it released and have waited that long. And personally i can only play the same campaign levels and do the ripatorium over and over so much without losing it😭

[frail bloom]

They're pretty fun

[harsh egret]

eh

[frail bloom]

You don't see me demanding nothing

[frail bloom]

You don't have to play the game

[warm ibex]

I wonder what would've happened if TAG wasn't split into two parts. would you also have people getting worried or freaking out if the expansion took exactly a year to launch?

[harsh egret]

theres other games to play too, im pretty sure everyone isnt just playing tda all day for the past 8 months

[random sand]

I like dlc and sequel talk. I love it with cyberpunk 2 and i love it with this dlc

[frail bloom]

Well it's happening now

[random sand]

I play other games, but i want to play more tda. It's my 2nd favorite game oat and the only thing holding it back is the fact that it lacks content

[warm ibex]

typically I like talking about the future, but TDA dlc discussion at this point in time is about as mind numbingly boring as watching paint dry

[harsh egret]

what r u gonna do when ur done with the dlc

[frail bloom]

Yeah you're gonna have to find another game

I say replay the franchise again

[random sand]

The same i'm doing with eternal now. Play through it every like 7 months

[frail bloom]

There's also a good chunk of wads

[harsh egret]

so why wont it be a problem later but its a problem now

[random sand]

It's not a problem now. In like 3 months still with nothing then it'll be a problem

[harsh egret]

ok... why is it gonna be a problem in 3 months but not after the dlc is out
i just dont understand

wont it be worse cuz then ur gonna be like 4 years with no new doom content

rather than a few months

[frail bloom]

Er are you talking abt a trailer or an actual release

[harsh egret]

trailer

[frail bloom]

I wouldn't call a trailer a mountain of content lol

[harsh egret]

he never said that 😭

[frail bloom]

Just saying

[slender night]

I would imagine they would be worried as purchasing the DOOM Eternal: Year One Pass™ comes with a GUARANTEE that your DLC content will be shipped within One Year of the game's release 🤓
(I get what your point is though :p)

[random sand]

Depending on the quality of this dlc, it might be highly replayable. It's something. Anyway, i got plenty of games i'll play in the meantime, but if this dlc could get a teaser soon then that'd be nice

[warm ibex]

why would they be worried?

[slender night]

If it does not hit the guaranteed release date mark then their money is WASTED because they had to wait a few months longer...

[warm ibex]

if they were only eight months post launch and they're guaranteed DLC within a year, what's there to worry about 🤔

[harsh egret]

so 22 levels for about a year or so isnt enough replayable content but a dlc with probably half or less is enough for the next 4 years...

[young schooner]

This is only somewhat related, but a nitpick I have is I don't like the parts being separate. Many disagree because they feel there's a gulf in quality between TAG1 and TAG2, but I honestly wish it were sorted as just one campaign, "The Ancient Gods," being 7 levels long, part 1 and then part 2.

[frail bloom]

I think it's cuz it's all comparing to tag

Waiting 4-5 years for a base game is normal

[young schooner]

If TAG had been developed as one DLC I have to wonder what would've changed? Would we have gotten more consistent quality with the second half's content? Or would the whole thing be kind of borked and weird?

[slender night]

It would have the positive of being treated more like a traditional story

With TAG 1 it's like, okay, almost nothing happens, this DLC's story sucks!!!!

Then TAG 2 has things actually happen and if you had these combined into one you wouldn't have people feeling like one part was underwhelming

[frail bloom]

And we're here after a whole trilogy

[slender night]

People would be treating it as one product and not feel as dissapointed by the first half (or the latter half, honestly, that TAG 1 nothing happens thing was out of my ass)

[harsh egret]

it felt like the conversation was about having something to play or not, he needs smth new to play from tda cuz theres only so much to replay in tda, but then he says he has games to play after all so im just not sure about anything anymore is all lol

[frail bloom]

My interpretation is that he wants something to talk abt

And he's also worried that the game doesn't get enough cover

[slender night]

I was also honestly surprised by the smaller traction the game got online

With sliders and all I was expecting lots of people to try True UN

I haven't seen a single video about normal UN...

[frail bloom]

Ye it's a lil underappreciated

[harsh egret]

the internet feels drastically different than 4-5 years ago

different meta

so im not too surprised

[frail bloom]

And ig part of the big unrest is wanting the studio to do well so they can release better products. I see a lot of ppl mentioning "the perfect time to release a trailer" and they mention the audience size. Clearly there's a pattern where they want the thing they're hyping to be hyped up by other people and they want to show it off to those who may not be interested or are doubtful

They don't want things to be "too late"

Problem is, we can't predict what's too late, neither how the word of mouth grows

Part of it is selfish, part of it is considering the business side of things

[random sand]

It is. But when you've played those 22 levels almost every day for that year, even that can get a little stale. it ain't fully yet but yk. Getting there. Which is a shame because i really do love this game

[frail bloom]

And the big ol value proposition, as seen above

I took a break from dark ages, it's ok to do so

The game won't "die", it's single player

And it's also a bizzare game, bc it gets a lot of weird changes

Who knows what it looks like a year from now

[harsh egret]

my point still is that i dont understand this logic of it getting stale. i dont think they are gonna spawn in a dlc thats so replayable that u can replay it once a week for the next 4 years so im just worried u will be dissapointed when u find that out. its normal for a singleplayer game to not have content for a while, and tda has gotten a good amount and will continue to do so but at one point it wont and it will be like a 3-4 year long hiatus where i hope u got smth else to play

[random sand]

I know that. I can take breaks just fine. Just don't want to. It's too damn good😭

[harsh egret]

probably not that different anymore

[frail bloom]

Ng+, dlc, dlc in the ripatorium

Maaaybe not a year from now but like some months in

And if they adjust some enemies or whatever like what they're doing with the cybie

[harsh egret]

like this game will have more content all together than eternal did

[frail bloom]

Taking a break is the solution to make something not stale

[harsh egret]

let them cook man 😭

[frail bloom]

That's what I'm doing

[harsh egret]

not u lol

i know u are xd

[frail bloom]

That's right boi

@random sand Listen, you know the dlc is releasing right?

I wanna just take this by a couple steps

[harsh egret]

yes he knows lmao

[random sand]

I'm not expecting it to feel refreshing and awesome for 4 years. I'm not expecting anything. I'm just hoping we get something on the dlc soon. I know i'll move on from the game like i've done with games like ghostrunner. But i don't want that to be at least for another year

[frail bloom]

Ok, and are you a believer that it's gonna be a huge expansion

N3xon

[random sand]

Hmm. Do i know? Not sure

[frail bloom]

Ik ik but take it by a few steps

[random sand]

Well if it isn't, that'd be insane

[harsh egret]

i think we are just keeping this conversation going for way too long lol

[frail bloom]

Ok but you generally believe it's worth the time put in right

[frail bloom]

Imma abt to end it trust

[harsh egret]

just end it here xd

theres no point

[random sand]

Lmao

[frail bloom]

Noooo I wanted to use my dark mango psychology

[harsh egret]

the dlc will be out at some point and everyone will be happy

the end

[frail bloom]

Anyways my point was that if it's releasing, there's nothing to worry about

You'll get your moneys worth

If you believe that, you're set

[random sand]

That ain't a concern. The base game alone got my money's worth even with the higher price lmao

[frail bloom]

Exactly

So don't be concerned abt what other ppl think

[random sand]

I'm not

[frail bloom]

.

Well you seem aware of it to point it out

[random sand]

Was just a point to say it'd be a good time now

[frail bloom]

See but good time for what

Hype?

[harsh egret]

man.

[frail bloom]

Marketing?

[random sand]

Sure, yeah. A teaser

[harsh egret]

seriously what are we doing xd

[random sand]

Just leave bro😭

[harsh egret]

adios

[frail bloom]

Hype just passes through word of mouth

If smt is good enough, ppl will see it

Doesn't matter the date

[random sand]

Yeah and every Hugo stream, there is some. Imagine what a teaser would do. In all honesty, think i just want that feeling i had when tda was first shown back tbh. Bruh i screamed😭

[frail bloom]

Smt crappy that released on a desired day won't get as much traction as smt monumental released on a less predictable schedule

[frail bloom]

A teaser would do the same in 2 months what it would do on thursday

It's just a matter of quality

And that's what id is chasing

[random sand]

Indeed. Which is why i'd only really be confused in about 4 months

[frail bloom]

That's kinda why the whole convo is weird tho

[random sand]

This direct would only leave me slightly confused

[frail bloom]

You're predicting your concern abt 4 months after but we have no idea if it's gonna be like that

It gives off the impression that you're worried now

Otherwise why talk abt your concern

Like we established earlier, you know you'll get your moneys worth

[random sand]

Because i think this direct would be perfect for a teaser. And concerns wouldn't start going crazy there, but they would start brewing

[frail bloom]

See it's abt "they" again, concerns in the plural

This is abt other ppl too is what I'm seeing

You're alluding to other people

Most ppl just moved on and are doing other things in the meantime

[random sand]

No, couldn't care less about other people. I like seeing reactions sure but overall i care more for my reaction to it

[frail bloom]

But you're fine with whatever happens in these proceding 4 months right

Idk why we picked 4 but 4 it is

If you're patient enough, you wouldn't really have a problem

Also this convo is soooo godamn long

Anyone make a doom ost tierlist

Modern games tho

I better see all fm tracks in s tier

[random sand]

I got other shit to do. Idc THAT much. But eventually i will probably start saying "yo where's that teaser at?"

[grim cloud]

teaser when hugo!

[random sand]

I would, but can't post pics here so can"t post it here

[frail bloom]

Alr well that's where we at rn

[frail bloom]

You can!

[random sand]

How

[frail bloom]

Post it in your own sever and copy the media link

[random sand]

Hmm, aight. Now, which doom? All of 'em? Tda?

[frail bloom]

2016-tda

[grim cloud]

so i finished the doom 3 stream, they mentioned the dlc campaign being metroidvania lite? did i hear taht correctly?

[random sand]

God damn. That's alot. Ah well. Should be fun

[frail bloom]

Yeah smt like that

[frail bloom]

Ye it really does sound fun

I'll just wait and see if I feel the same or I differ greatly

[random sand]

I know i got some strong feelings about certain tracks and weak ones about others. Gonna need time to give each track their time of day so will check this out in a sec

[grim cloud]

it doesnt surprise me, i watched a long interview with the id techheads post tda, and they mentioned creating larger worlds, and seamless levels. maybe next game is going to be more Metroid Prime style

[frail bloom]

Oh what interview? Sounds interesting

[grim cloud]

ill have to find it, its a long one

[frail bloom]

And if true, can we please bring back the classic doom episode maps

"You are here"

[harsh egret]

i think that was just about making larger sized maps like siege 1 and so on

[random sand]

Now that'd be funny