the-dark-ages

[fleet spruce]

There's a chance they could randomly drop it before or after the date

[grim cloud]

It will be Rage 3

[native fog]

kekw

[slender night]

I wouldn't be against that

[harsh egret]

a pretty credible source said that there will be something else showing up from a studio that released something this previous year, then edited the post to "excited for fable"

how many games qualify for that

[native fog]

is there any confirmation that the dlc is near

[harsh egret]

its confirmed 2026

[native fog]

sick

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-eye-roll-annoyed-awkward-awkward-silence-gif-8519527199733944803

[slender night]

Finally, Five Nights at Freddy's 12

[grim cloud]

oh ive never heard of that

[slender night]

I really hope we'll get something good though that isn't just more DOOM again, unless it's DLC news

[grim cloud]

DLC news, i doubt another id shooter announcment. but it will be rebooted hexen

[harsh egret]

why not

id be surprised if they dont do another doom right after this lol

[green estuary]

rebooted Hexen is probably the least likely thing ever

[harsh egret]

maybe at some point in the next 20 years lol

[grim cloud]

new hexen will happen, but not any time soon

there are also new MG wolf 3 rumors recently as well. But its going to be Doom for the next game or so from Id. Ill take it

[harsh egret]

why not btw

[slender night]

Because I like Quake, Hexen, RAGE and Wolfenstein, and want something new from that too

[harsh egret]

well wolfenstein 3 is otw

[slender night]

Reportedly

[harsh egret]

seemed pretty confirmed

[slender night]

I'm looking forward to it, TNC set up a very special Wolf3D callback that I'm eager to see 👀

[harsh egret]

rage is probably not happening, neither is hexen for now

quake... realistically the chance isnt 0 but again, i think at the earliest AFTER id's next game

[slender night]

RAGE is very unlikely yeah. I also don't find Hexen possible thanks to TDA and possible low sales of H+H, partially same for Quake. Let me have this though. Let me dream 😔

[harsh egret]

i think h+h did alright all things considered

[grim cloud]

tbh i didnt buy it becuase i just beat all of those games shortly before TDA came out

[slender night]

I mean yeah I'm purely making a guess here so anything can happen but I think it may not have done too well

[grim cloud]

and GZDoom is much better than Kex

[slender night]

I'm also not gonna go home salty and pouting if anything DOOM gets announced (which is agonizingly unlikely but still), it's just that there's a drought on a game from all four of the other franchises

[grim cloud]

so some of you are expecting another doom game annoucment soon? i dont see that for another 2-3 years

[slender night]

Nah I'm not expecting it I'm just saying that in the eventual hyper unlikely event that it gets announced

[green estuary]

No
But when there’s a new game announcement in however long, it’s going to be a doom game

[grim cloud]

most likely yes it will. I am fine with that. Doom is my no. 1 game. sorry if that sounds selfish

Doom > Quake > Wolf = Hexen > Rage

[harsh egret]

yeah in about 2 years at the earliest

[unkempt dragon]

#general

[alpine pilot]

where doom

[placid rampart]

The real doom was the friends we made along the way

[flat elm]

Facts

[meager vortex]

date girl is gone run away

[alpine pilot]

who needs dates when you have doom

[meager vortex]

that is not a date it just scam site

[flat elm]

Doom dating simulator

[meager vortex]

acting like a girl and try steal your wallet

but if she or he acting like a demon i will happy to rip and tear until done!

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-eternal-doomguy-doom-slayer-doom-guy-shotgun-gif-27413588

[fleet spruce]

quick, contact the artists!

[meager vortex]

doom slayer rip and tear demon girls lol

[flat elm]

Well, kinda yes, Whiplash and mastermind

And Ulsamir

[meager vortex]

whoa naughty mind come down

https://tenor.com/view/chris-pratt-interview-jimmy-kimmel-2021-gif-9091736678629998308

[flat elm]

I mean killing

[meager vortex]

[unkempt dragon]

can you guys knock it off

[meager vortex]

btw update coming this month?

last year update is not show up

[thick coral]

does tda ever go on sale?

[meager vortex]

master level i hope

[solid nacelle]

Fairly often, it was recently half off for end of year and black friday

[obsidian shard]

Today was the last day of the 50% off sale

[frail bloom]

But did those demons have argent energy back then. I thought argent was hell and wraith mixed together. As far as I'm aware, nekravol hasn't been built yet

It ain't happening broseph 🙏

[wintry forge]

In 2016? Yes

[frail bloom]

No I mean in dark ages

Not 2016

Like when explaining the hell surge attacks

Or they're prob different things despite being the same color

[wintry forge]

It’s hard to say. Might just be hell energy in general when it’s supercharged

[frail bloom]

Ye I'll go with that

[harsh egret]

the chance aint zero

[frail bloom]

Ye brotato we have like a 5% chance

[thick coral]

nevermind ill just wait thanks for response

[thick coral]

ty ❤️

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/the-mandalorian-odds-like-those-odds-gif-15541855

[obsidian shard]

Like a Surge of power

A Hell Surge...

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/mokey-mokey-no-mokey-skeleton-no-gif-6610450945308243206

[wintry forge]

Precisely!

Supercharged Hell/ argent = green

[harsh egret]

cant wait to see the look on ur face when im right (ive def not said this before about smth else)

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/mokey-mokey-show-sr-pelo-sir-pelo-krima-gif-10248468366617945834

[empty furnace]

it went on sale during the last 2 weeks of december

[errant pewter]

I just finished Ancestral Forge but I forgot to pause the game after I defeated the last leader. I wanted to practice the level without the runes, progression, etc. Is there a way I can do that?

[spark elm]

Final Battle I feel will be the BIGGEST test of an Ultra Nightmare run. That level is just so rough.

[green estuary]

Every single time
Somebody comes in asking about sales immediately after a big sale

[frail bloom]

My announcements bugged out for a sec

I saw a frame of the dev direct

Prob some weird glitch

Ye def a glitch

Hopefully someone's heartrate spiked

That's what I'm here for

[warm ibex]

there's definitely more planned for the dev direct, but probably not doom

[frail bloom]

I agree

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/why-always-lyin-you-gif-5091532

[warm ibex]

only three announced games when both Gears and Halo have new games coming out this year? don't even joke lad

[frail bloom]

I did, but it prob went to some old post

[final dune]

woaj i didnt know that

[cobalt fog]

When do y’all think we are getting the dlc trailer?

[obsidian shard]

Before GTA VI

[cobalt fog]

Aaaaahhhh

[obsidian shard]

GTA VI ain't ever releasing at this rate

[solar spoke]

any word on any new streams?

[obsidian shard]

nothin

[empty furnace]

ahzrak watching me turn up the “damage to demons” modifier up to 1000

[spark elm]

I might have to put that up lol I do NOT wanna mess up final battle in that run

[empty furnace]

or you can turn down damage to player to 50

[spark elm]

oh yeah I did that on my nightmare rerun

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/jose-mourinho-sweet-trouble-gif-26762341

[violet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-gif-3417245934051922481

Hi

[frail bloom]

If there wasn't a stream today, why no announcements?

Just strange

[harsh egret]

because the next announcement makes sense to be for the next stream

not an announcement every week when there isnt

[frail bloom]

Well that doesn't make sense, why not say no stream for this week, and then say when you're back

[harsh egret]

cuz they didnt promise anything for this week

[frail bloom]

Ik so just say not this week

[empty furnace]

chronospike on impaler works really well against ahzrak

[harsh egret]

they dont have to

[frail bloom]

Well duh

[arctic pagoda]

Doom Mario

[frail bloom]

Just kinda strange

[harsh egret]

i didnt expect a stream this week even

[frail bloom]

Me neither

But I thought they'd put out an announcement so it surprised me a lil

[harsh egret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/491020118780805140/1458964008613970164/image.png?ex=69618d9d&is=69603c1d&hm=7dfc2b9d43f679dba2f8a288a5bab8172dd13a30108fe85de73896664a05988f&

here's an announcement

[frail bloom]

Never heard of the dice awards

But cool

[harsh egret]

dice awards is pretty big

[frail bloom]

Ig?

[harsh egret]

not quite tga awards big

[frail bloom]

I would assume so

[harsh egret]

unrelated to tda but yall should go watch kovaak's eternal speedrun at GDQ, he just got done with it not long ago, was a great watch

[frail bloom]

Idk who kovaak is

[harsh egret]

goat in fps

[frail bloom]

Cool

[warm ibex]

average conversation with samir

https://tenor.com/view/guy-arguing-guy-talking-to-wall-talking-brick-wall-gif-18667615

[harsh egret]

lmao

[empty furnace]

i beat ultra nightmare (with modifiers)

[mystic barn]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[warm ibex]

I hope they win both! I would say very much deserved, but I am of course biased

[warm ibex]

it is pretty funny that dante beat ultra nightmare (with modifiers)

[empty furnace]

dante did not die

[warm ibex]

im proud of dante, very good work my friend

[mystic barn]

(I was having a giggle at the conversation with Samir gif lol)

[neat sigil]

[frail bloom]

Yup

[warm ibex]

I figured lol

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-gif-17172302651595453543

[obsidian shard]

Hi Samir

[frail bloom]

Hi

[silent surge]

well known for making “Kovaak’s Aim Trainer”

[violet zealot]

Sup guys

[versed quarry]

sup

[violet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/rickroll-rick-roll-gif-gif-23727670

[brave pendant]

[empty furnace]

where is the toy in the holy city

[next coral]

Is there only 1 toy in holy city? If so, I know where it is

Assuming there’s one, it’s where you get the super shotgun, and when you’re about to enter the next area, turn right, and jump down and just follow the path.

[mystic barn]

There is only one. It’s Serrat

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-the-dark-ages-serrat-collectible-gif-3931149747427409032

[wintry forge]

I was surprised there wasn’t a special animation for the Atlan toy pickup tbh

Less necessary, but it was one of the big gameplay gimmicks

[warm ibex]

I'm still a bit disappointed by that

three types of gameplay but only two of them get unique animations. damn shame

[meager vortex]

https://x.com/lunarfq/status/2009226729865584959/photo/1

luna (@lunarfq)

︎you have 24 hours to say hi to Dave

X · Jan 8, 2026, 11:32 AM

cute daisy

[green estuary]

hi dave

[warm ibex]

hi dave

[harsh egret]

hi dave

[next coral]

hi dave 🥰

https://tenor.com/view/consider-the-following-rabbit-bunny-pet-gif-26758967

[wintry forge]

I prefer the real Daisy

[vagrant path]

I wonder when we'll get a dlc reveal

[obsidian shard]

3 minutes

[meager vortex]

oh...... real daisy is dead by demons

[wintry forge]

That’s the way we like it

[meager vortex]

that is why doomguy rip and tear all demons

https://tenor.com/view/doom-guy-demon-2016-gif-10925418

[wintry forge]

No dead Daisy = no angry Doomguy = no Doom games

[meager vortex]

true

[slender night]

No dead Daisy = no DOOM 1993 ending = no cinema

[meager vortex]

we want kill all demons in hell

demons must die eternal

[fleet spruce]

The time is now...

[meager vortex]

https://x.com/SgdBenjamin/status/2009497315158184119/photo/1

Benjamin SGD -Blender arc- (@SgdBenjamin)

Reposting this banger

X · Jan 9, 2026, 5:27 AM

[fleet spruce]

gotta be my favourite misconception about this series

and with Eternal this misconception became even stronger... Just like Icon of Sin...

[versed quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/what-star-lord-guardians-of-the-galaxy-mother-dead-mother-gif-20223787

[fleet spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-samuel-hayden-doom2016-gif-19831511

[obsidian shard]

BENJAMIN MENTIONED 🗣️ 🔥

[meager vortex]

dlc i hope crucible

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doomguy-crucible-doom-slayer-crucible-gif-26209346

[merry sapphire]

probably because i still ask on what you guys think bout the dlc dropping before 2026

what you guys think bout that

[meager vortex]

dlc 2026 drop i think may

[merry sapphire]

may or may not

[meager vortex]

just my opinion

why i think that because game is released and after 1 year dlc show up

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-the-dark-ages-doomguy-doom-slayer-absolute-cinema-gif-11606677432043572262

[wintry forge]

That shit had me cacklin

[brittle finch]

I was thinking earlier

If it looks like shit and smears like shit, it’s probably shit

Or TAA

[fleet spruce]

blur for the blur god
smear for smear throne

[merry sapphire]

Yall think The Dlc Gon D

[hazy pasture]

The Dlc Gon D

[charred oasis]

Ok is it a hot take to say that this game has the most satisfying parry sound in gaming history? Can yall think of something that might be better? The only thing that comes to mind is maybe god of war

[hushed yarrow]

Idgaf what anyone says this was my GotY. Finished it a little late but it was awesome.

[heady trout]

truly the only true GotY is what the individual perceives as their GotY

[frosty roost]

TDA is my GOTY, I loved this game so much

[empty furnace]

hard choice between silksong and doom

[obsidian shard]

Nathan Elmer worked on Both lmao

https://tenor.com/view/avengers-endgame-hulk-bruce-banner-i-see-this-as-an-absolute-win-gif-17006739

[empty furnace]

who is he

[obsidian shard]

Concept Artist and Illustrator

I HIGHLY suggest checking his stuff out
www.artstation.com/nathanlyallelmer

[empty furnace]

ok

[obsidian shard]

All the Cover art for my OST remixes are his Concept art!

[brittle finch]

Same

[brave pendant]

It's one of the best for me as well.

[orchid rover]

How many players messed with the difficulty sliders on their first playthrough, both old and new players

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh40FyuVzUo This is a pretty interesting critique of TDA and talks a lot about how the sliders damage criticism against game balance and hurt the overall shared player experience, and make the game kind of impossible to balance

Also the slayer being way too powerful to make unique combat in the mid to late game is pretty interesting. I think I might agree that he can do way too much, especially that shield bash

In the "lower mobility game compared to Eternal" you still move very fast in this game

What if instead of a Sonic homing attack, it was a straight forward charge or even upward one that left you a little vulnerable

[frail bloom]

Well yeah that's true to an extent but the sliders also make the game much more replayable so I ain't complaining

Some ppl love 150% speed, some love 100% speed

Some like slo mo, some don't

It's designed to be flexible

Also the shield bash is a risky tool in the ripatorium if you're a more skilled player

[crude sparrow]

it is

but if you've got it charged you can pretty much one-shot combo any heavy demons with the ssg

[frail bloom]

As intended

[crude sparrow]

and super heavies get faltered too I believe

[frail bloom]

No I don't think so

[crude sparrow]

if it's charged I think they do

[frail bloom]

Hm

I should check

[orchid rover]

I think sliders should have been more of a "make the game harder" than make the game easier maybe. Perhaps give them to you after beating the game at least once

Since iD can pretty much never try to balance the game with a patch unless they do something extreme like majorly cut an ammo pool

[frail bloom]

They're both what do you mean

They encourage you to put in what you want

They don't emphasize making it easy they emphasize your preference

[orchid rover]

I know. Mostly playing devil's advocate here, but sometimes what people want sucks

FromSoftware games would be a hundred times less memorable if they had an easy mode or major difficulty sliders

[frail bloom]

All I'll say is that they should be locked on the first un run

[crude sparrow]

id balances the game based on the default sliders

[orchid rover]

"Oh shit, you beat Dark Souls? Man that Ornstein and Smough fight was insane"

[frail bloom]

Also we gotta consider those who wanna play the game but have some sort of disability

[orchid rover]

Yes, but that's a bit of a catch-all, since even physically disabled people have gone on to be absolutely outstanding at their games compared to fully-abled people

[frail bloom]

Not everyone has that time

Some just wanna enjoy the game

In their own way

[crude sparrow]

the default parry window might still be too difficult to hit for some people, why not let them adjust it

[frail bloom]

Make it harder or easier your choice

It's not like you can change the game mode to I'm too young to die anytime you want in the past games

All the sliders do is make it more customizeable

[orchid rover]

Dude, the game's parry is absurdly easy, even on the lower settings

And I am not a parry/rythym game player

[frail bloom]

Some ppl have it rough

[crude sparrow]

for me it's just right, if I put it any lower sometimes I have trouble parrying consistently

[orchid rover]

Like that DSP clip of him sucking at God of War...

[frail bloom]

Instead of literally diluting the game for everyone for some ppl, let everyone have the customizeability to change what they want, not for every game, but for Doom I see no problem

It's never been this uber hard game

[crude sparrow]

I do wish there were even more sliders tbh

[mystic barn]

I suppose the criticism is that if every game has built-in customisation (without the barrier for entry of modding, despite how simple it’s become lately), then no game is truly balanced. I don’t necessarily agree because the game does have balanced difficulties, but I can kinda see the approach. You start getting into video game elitism though (“if you didn’t complete UN without modifying the sliders, your run is invalid”, for example)

[orchid rover]

The idea of "elitism bad" is how games get ultra diluted

[mystic barn]

With what?

[orchid rover]

Obviously "erm therre are more important things" but someone who beat UN on default settings and another who dropped all the sliders to the easiest mode didn't do the same thing

[mystic barn]

Who cares?

[orchid rover]

Who cares about anything?

[crude sparrow]

like instead of just a flat game speed setting, let me change my movement speed but keep the demon speed normal

for fun

[orchid rover]

I agree, the game definitely leans into EU's "the game feels like tinkerable software" argument for the sliders with the game speed being higher

I just want to physically run faster for the open areas, not have the demons move around super fast

[frail bloom]

See they could do that for the next game

[orchid rover]

It's too late now but locking off UN sliders until after first completion would have been a pretty good move for preserving that mode. Not everyone gets a trophy fellas

[frail bloom]

Jist keep expanding

[crude sparrow]

they could also just try and implement that in an update right?

if they wanted to

[orchid rover]

Faster movement speed? Sure. But the "game speed" like isn't changing since it's already there

[mystic barn]

My point is that it’s not a competitive game (there is no live service), so outside of personal achievement, does it truly matter if someone dropped all the sliders for a UN run?

[frail bloom]

That doesn't matter, but

[orchid rover]

The point is that Ultra Nightmare is a challenge the point of ultra nightmare is to beat the game on the hardest difficulty without dying

[frail bloom]

Ok, do that

[orchid rover]

If you use the sliders you are not playing ultra nightmare so you should not get to say I beat ultra nightmare!

[green estuary]

Who gives a shit what people say they did

[mystic barn]

To you. If the goal of UN is not dying, then dropping all the sliders shouldn’t matter

[green estuary]

I legitimately could not care less if someone gets the gold skin by scamming the achievement

[crude sparrow]

well I think it's fine that you can play essentially what is hurt me plenty for example but with perma death

[frail bloom]

I'm sure some ppl lie, but there's value in having a perma death mode on lower difficulties

[brave pendant]

Idk man, I enjoyed the game very much. Can't speak on any technical aspect of the game, I'd need to play it again and have a more fresh take.

[green estuary]

The only real thing I dislike about TDA’s sliders is that the defaults are too easy

[orchid rover]

I also enjoyed it, have over 100 hours in it

[frail bloom]

170 here

[green estuary]

Nightmare just isn’t nightmare tbh

[orchid rover]

I really want them to announce the DLC soon

[frail bloom]

Well

[crude sparrow]

I'm on 190 rn

[frail bloom]

Why

[orchid rover]

I think only the player damage makes it hard, everything else is relatively easy/doable

[frail bloom]

You got smt to do?

[green estuary]

The default parry timings are a joke

[orchid rover]

Yep

[green estuary]

Also 250% damage is too low

[orchid rover]

GREEN LIGHT, TIME TO PARRY

YES MASTER, right clicks

[frail bloom]

Makes sense for the game

[green estuary]

I would even go so far to say that the projectile speed could be upped by 25%

[frail bloom]

It's a fast paced fps

I wanna see the projectile

[brave pendant]

I think I set the parry time to be faster? As in having a smaller window of time to actually do the parry.

[frail bloom]

Now, sure the timing is generous

[orchid rover]

Most of the projectiles are fine, works with them trying to bring back the "bob and weave" style of gameplay from old doom

[orchid rover]

Makes the game feel very fast especially when you remove the slowdown

[green estuary]

No it does not
The game is supposed to be mechanically challenging
How can you make a mechanically challenging game when the main game mechanic is not at all challenging

[brave pendant]

I wanted to feel some kind of a challenge.

[frail bloom]

No I meant it's color

I need to see it brochacho

[green estuary]

Oh the color
Fair enough

[orchid rover]

The slowdown was obnoxious at first but doing a whole run without the slowdown felt like a totally different game, they very clearly intended you to be able to slow and react

[frail bloom]

Well good thing you can adapt to the no slo mo

[green estuary]

I would have never objected if the game never shipped with any slowdown

It’s just not at all necessary

[orchid rover]

Also my nuclear hot take is that I found glory kills mostly better than the melee executions, but I am very alone in this for the most part

At least in terms of visuals, so much of the melee feels so repetitive

[green estuary]

Removes the need to actually know enemy attacks and just gives you bullet time to react accordingly

[frail bloom]

I think they could have gk for berserk

But for normal gameplay I kinda like it this way now

[orchid rover]

I would at least have liked more animations

[crude sparrow]

this ^

more variety and interesting glory strike animations please

[brave pendant]

I think I can agree on this a little bit. I loved what I saw the first time, but it kinda just loses its luster the more you see the same animation. 2016 and Eternal aren't exceptions to this either though imo.

[orchid rover]

Dude every enemy has multiple unique glory kills

Like EVERY enemy in the game has unique glory kills from multiple angles

[crude sparrow]

lemme hit the demons with my gun or something or quickly slice them in half with the shield

[orchid rover]

The dreadmace has what, 2? 3?

[orchid rover]

I like the concept of using guns as bludgeoning weapons, we need this more

[brave pendant]

But still, you'll see the same handful of animations after enough time. They're more limited in TDA, there's no denying that.

[frail bloom]

As someone said here before, most of them from the past games have different angles but they essentialpy repeat the same action

[crude sparrow]

I just feel like they're not that satisfying rn

[frail bloom]

Punch, kick, stab, slash

[green estuary]

My argument against eternal’s gks aren’t that they’re repetitive, it’s that they make combat a series of stop start stop start sequences

[orchid rover]

Back after Eternal came out, my wish for the evolution of the glory kill system were more contextual/environmental glory kills. Ex if an airborne enemy was over a pit you would slam them into the ground, or if two enemies were next to each other you'd smash them together or pick up an imp to smack a Hell Knight with

[crude sparrow]

the uppercut one is great but the other ones feel kinda cheap sometimes

[frail bloom]

Only difference is that dark ages has less of those angle kills

[brave pendant]

There are some unique animations involving the shield.

[crude sparrow]

yeah I dont really like those unfortunately

[orchid rover]

Unfortunately I agree, and the game is unplayable to me without both Savagery and Air Control :[

[crude sparrow]

I would've liked it if the slayer actually utilized the saw part of it more in the glory strikes

[orchid rover]

I promise I'm cooking here, HUGO PLEASE

[brave pendant]

I felt like I saw a good amount of saw-based kills. Maybe I'm wrong and need to play again.

[frail bloom]

Easy to say smt but to intergrate 8i is another thing

[green estuary]

It’s way more enjoyable and much less annoying to just send a demon’s corpse flying 100 feet in TDA than it is to sit through a forced animation which lowers my ability to actually observe my surroundings

[orchid rover]

Oh definitely

[crude sparrow]

in 2016 there were special glory kills if you were close to a wall

[frail bloom]

There are sooooo many things that get dropped to the cutting room floor

Things that sounded cool

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/взгляд-2000-ярдов-война-war-soldier-gif-3632617944134077161

[frail bloom]

But never made it

[orchid rover]

I know game development is extremely complex and simple things like a boss fight can take months or longer to actually make good

I have never ever called iD lazy

[frail bloom]

It just depends on the gameplay loop they wanna craft, and id usually takes feedback

So they most of the time learn from their missteps

Gotta love that abt id

[crude sparrow]

I'd just like if there were more interesting glory strikes animations, and more of them

[brave pendant]

Eternal is something I didn't enjoy as much. Idk what it was, and I've mentioned it before, but I just didn't vibe with it? I don't hate the game, but being a fan of 2016 and then going to Eternal felt really strange lol.

[frail bloom]

I loved eternal when it released but as time waned I found it less and less enticing to play

Except tag 1, just mwah

perfecto

[brave pendant]

TDA to me feels like a better iteration of the 2016 gameplay but more hyped up.

[frail bloom]

It's def a bit more free with it's loop like 2016

[solar cairn]

I swear, on Develop Direct there will be at least a teaser of the dlc, my intuition can’t be mistaken 4 times)))

[frail bloom]

Sad

[harsh egret]

ive heard the secret 4th game is some indie game

so uhh ye

[green estuary]

Eternal is more annoying than any other game to get back to tbh
Because the main difficulty (at least for me) isn’t really identifying threats, being precise with your shots, moving around, dodging projectiles, and all the fps fundamentals, but rather committing all your keybinds to muscle memory
In fact, the game makes most of the fps fundamentals quite easy—it has fairly generous hitboxes, a dash cooldown that lets you run circles around everything, and a tool in the meathook that literally lets you go literally anywhere

As much as people talk about the weak point system, it’s really not a game about aiming

[frail bloom]

I'm a console dude so I don't memorize I just wing it

Also the weakpoints are easy to shoot I'm sorry

[green estuary]

Yeah exactly

[frail bloom]

Ofc like I said earlier some ppl have it rough

[green estuary]

It doesn’t require any sort of precision

That was my point

[frail bloom]

But for the average videogame enthusiast it shouldn't be that hard

[green estuary]

The game makes aiming—typically the most difficult part about a given fps—fairly easy and makes other things much harder

Which is why it’s so annoying to start playing the game after a while off

[frail bloom]

It justs alienates me cuz I feel so floaty

I like the heavy feel of dark ages

But that's me

[green estuary]

It’s a bit off putting sometimes that I have to spam single dashing or abuse the meathook/ballista to get any sort of speed

Because otherwise it feels like you’re stuck in quicksand

[frail bloom]

Ye and everything is kinds slow except the projectiles

Just weird to play

[green estuary]

I’m not going to say it’s slow, because with all the actions you’re doing it certainly doesn’t feel that way

[frail bloom]

I'm not saying that either but what I mean is that the demon attacks and animations are slow

They feel easy to react to

Compared to playing on 130% speed for so long with tda

[crude sparrow]

I think the game was made with utilizing those features as much as you can for movement though

[green estuary]

I know that

Which is why the first three levels feel so ass

[crude sparrow]

yeah thats true, also having no air control feels bad for me

faster dash and air control are literally the first upgrade and rune I get in a new run

[crude sparrow]

idk if it's just me but I feel like the game speeds might be bugged for me or something

every speed feels like it's 10% behind than what it says it is

like I'd watch my old clips from when the game launched when I still played on 100% speed and it genuinely looks faster than if I'd currently try playing on 100%

and that's even with the slow-mo still being present

at first I thought it's just because I've gotten used to playing on higher speeds but legit I feel like what the game says is 100% is like 90% in reality

[ebon lynx]

doing a UN run adds 10% to the speed

[crude sparrow]

feels like it sometimes xD

[obsidian shard]

Doing a UN run makes me dogshit at the game

[solar spoke]

it's like presenting to a crowd; I can play good when nothing's at stake but when the pressure is on suddenly I'm like a bucket of shit in a fan factory

[crude sparrow]

when you hear that low health alert sound and you have to genuinely lock in

[solar spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/ralph-died-almost-thesimpsons-gif-5137016

every combat encounter in UN

[crude sparrow]

and then you gotta run around the arena to look for any pickups you can find

[vague peak]

fr XD

[heady trout]

orrr you can charge at fodder with the shield to get health back

[crisp frigate]

Much like how I discovered you can in fact inflict Azhrak with literally every status effect in the game, I have also discovered another unique thing

you can beat a Stone Imp to death by repeatedly throwing the shield at it

while the Stone Imp cannot be split by the shield saw, it still takes damage from it

[thick axle]

guys i can finally talk like i belong here

i got doom dark ages

which means i wont have a migrane every 10 seconds

[fading bone]

congratulations

[alpine pilot]

where doom

[meager vortex]

an endless path of pain:DOOM THE DARK AGES main campaign finished doom slayer hunting hell demons (because demons kill the serrat and daisy and his family) slayer he choose the path of the pain(make a demons fucked again!)

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/serrat-serrat-doom-doom-the-dark-ages-doom-doom-dark-ages-gif-8832286089659534552

[merry jackal]

My first platinum is doom tda and i just got it

[fading bone]

whats a platinum

[merry jackal]

U get a trophy in ps if u 100 percent the game

Pretty much like achievement for 100 percenting the game

[fading bone]

ah ok

nice job

[merry jackal]

Thanks 🫡

[fading bone]

what difficulty did you do it on?

[merry jackal]

Nightmare

I wanted to try ultra nightmare but eh

[fleet spruce]

A playstation thing basically

[fading bone]

yeah UN is just a totally different mindset lol

ive tried it a bit here and there but i honestly just dont really enjoy resetting back to zero so often

sucks the fun out of the game and i dont want that to happen since i enjoy everything else so much with the games

im just gonna try to do deathless/as few deaths as possible nightmare runs from now on

you can also try pandemonium since that adds a bit more of that extra challenge without being AS frustrating as UN

(getting reset on siege 1 or spire of nerathul though 💀 )

[heady trout]

me neither

especially when this game is longer than Eternal

and there's much more exploration and secret finding than Eternal

[fading bone]

yeah and the most fun levels are in the mid-late part of the game anyway

so purposefully playing a mode that will almost never allow me to play those parts of the game just so i can get the cool achievement of beating UN just isnt really that worth it

im fine with eventually doing a deathless nightmare run

[heady trout]

same

i prefer just beating individual stages without dying

[fading bone]

yeah or just resetting from checkpoint in fights instead of totally resetting

to still go through the whole fight without dying

[empty furnace]

try chronospike on the impaler

saved my ass a few times

[fading bone]

💀

if youre gonna do the slowmo shit just hold shield throw for the slowmo instead of wasting one of the best upgrades on the best gun in the game

[empty furnace]

you can do that?

[merry jackal]

Alright

[crude sparrow]

I just practice every level individually before attempting it on UN

Alternatively if you just want the gold skin and don't care just lower the sliders and beat UN that way

[frail bloom]

I wanna play the ripatorium more but I hope they add new maps

The fights kinda blend in without more arenas

[orchid rover]

Sorry but the ripatorium arenas are gruesomely boring

[crude sparrow]

Did you play horde's new presets?

[frail bloom]

I have played 2!

[fading bone]

how are they boring

[crude sparrow]

Finally played them yesterday and they were PEAK

[orchid rover]

I hope the ripatorium evolves to either have a map editor or let us pick any areana in the game

[orchid rover]

flat plane, maybe 2 steps of elevation

[frail bloom]

I don' think they're boring, they're just too few in number

[crude sparrow]

We need more experimental stuff like launch pads and stuff in the arenas I think

[orchid rover]

Yes

[frail bloom]

3 arenas is not a lot

[fading bone]

idk all i want basically is an open field to fuck shit up in

[orchid rover]

I do see us getting at least some map editing, maybe not a full editor

[crude sparrow]

Though I understand why they're so flat

[orchid rover]

It lets all the Demons fit comfortably

[frail bloom]

I think some should be flat

Some should be complex

For variety

[orchid rover]

Tbh I wouldn't mind not getting a ripatorium update if it means the DLC comes sooner

But they might have different people working on those things

[crude sparrow]

The combat in tda isn't really vertical like it was in eternal

So the flat arenas work well

[orchid rover]

It's not as aerial

[frail bloom]

I think they might put the dlc maps, enemies, mechanics and song in a future ripatorium update

Otherwise it's gonna be outdated honestly

As the game's combat mode, it should have the latest options

[orchid rover]

Idk wtf they're gonna add in terms of "mechanics" to DLC

The game is literally bursting at the seams with player options already

About the same as Eternal honestly

[frail bloom]

Me neither but if they're cooking I'll lettem

[orchid rover]

Biggest mistake was locking off the Sentinel Hammer from the rest of the game as even an option to be used

Like letting us toggle in the slayer watchtower to take the crucible or the hammer

[fading bone]

youll find thats a very hot take in here

[orchid rover]

The other super weapons already trivialized the campaign

[frail bloom]

They might have those dlc mechanics in ng+ if it comes out after the dlc

[orchid rover]

Dark Ages is kicking and screaming to have a new game plus

[frail bloom]

Hugo said months ago that they were working on master levels

So I'm thinking that it's a whole campaign

[orchid rover]

I really hope so

The master level format would work very well for Dark Ages with the shorter levels

They were such a fucking chore to play in Eternal

[harsh egret]

plus he said "something fun with master levels is on the way", i think he wouldve just said master levels are on the way and thats it if it wasnt a full campaign ng+ thing

[green estuary]

Only the later ones tbf

[orchid rover]

I have literally zero doubt that incredible content is coming, iD has not let me down at all yet

[frail bloom]

Ye they just like to make sure it's all ironed out

[slender night]

RAGE 2 walked so TDA could crawl. I'm surprised NG+ isn't standard with id games by now

[crude sparrow]

For me they were the best combat the game has to offer

[orchid rover]

The individual arenas were mostly fine but they were so damn long

No checkpoints or a save and quit made me never play them for a long time

I think I just beat World Spear last year

[harsh egret]

i didnt think they were that long and stuff

[frail bloom]

Remember, dark ages has even worse checkpoints

[orchid rover]

Does it?

[harsh egret]

maybe they couldve had saves but idk

[green estuary]

The problem with eternal MLs was that they didn’t let you save quit

[frail bloom]

Imagine dying and spawning across the map

[frail bloom]

Oh didn't know that

[green estuary]

Imagine dying

[frail bloom]

Tbf it was only on the max slider run

[thin hound]

RAGE 2 was where they experimented with more nonlinear gameplay, vehicular combat, and exploration, and that definitely went into this game

Also with abilities that send enemies ragdolling and flying back

[slender night]

That would be RAGE 1

[thin hound]

Kind of, but the first RAGE didn’t feel as open world, it was just like a hub area with roads connecting different separated levels

You can just feel the same bones of RAGE 2 in DOOM Eternal and The Dark Ages

[slender night]

You didn't say anything about open world though, all of the things you said are things RAGE 1 did before RAGE 2 :p

Arguably Quake 4 and Quake Wars did vehicular combat even before that

[empty furnace]

yall i got every single codex entry but i didn't get the achievement

[foggy fable]

A master campaign made for a maxed out character would be so nice

[elder raven]

hugo give us 2 old ones to fight in the master campaign before ahzrak please please please

[fading bone]

well you must have missed one

[green estuary]

imagine a NG+ version of enhanced ahzrak with an expanded moveset

(even though you already have all of your upgrades when you fight him, ik)

[empty furnace]

i checked and i have all of them

[elder raven]

this is possible because hugo said that the cyberdemon was getting a new attack

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doomthedarkages-doommeme-gif-12634706960861658506

[elder raven]

attack where ahzrak jumps into the air, clutching his spear with both hands, and dives down

high risk = this attack will scrub away your armor and get you down to low health very easily

high reward = if parried/ countered, this advances his falter meter faster than some of his other his attacks + rewards health

[empty furnace]

is the lore nerd achievement glitched?

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/jump-high-jump-sword-fight-fighting-gif-13228060

almost like this

[obsidian shard]

Hugo was talking about a new wing attack for the Cyberdemons

all I'm saying

[frail bloom]

I forgot abt that

I really wanna see that

[green estuary]

doesn't he already have an attack like this

he plunges his spear into the ground and you have to parry the shockwaves

[obsidian shard]

yes

[versed quarry]

I think enhanced Ahzrak does but the final bossfight version doesn't

[green estuary]

figures
the final boss version is just a watered down version of his earlier moveset

which makes sense for lore reasons but enhanced ahzrak is really just a much better fight

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/i-forgot-beavis-mike-judge's-beavis-and-butt-head-s1-e6-i-can't-recall-gif-11615863989663226900

[fading bone]

the last fight is also hilarious if you use the berserk glitch

takes like less than a minute

with default damage settings

[empty furnace]

i got all codex pages but i didn't get the achievement

[harsh egret]

caco rework next 🙏

[heady trout]

when im in a "enemies that are lame to fight" competition and my opponent is the Dark Ages Cacodemon

[empty furnace]

do weapon codex’s count towards the lore nerd achievement

[obsidian shard]

What codex's do you have?

You can DM me the list so it doesnt bungle up the chat

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/mokey-mokey-no-mokey-skeleton-no-gif-6610450945308243206

[versed quarry]

https://64.media.tumblr.com/5fffa1337d7775fe54982f53be346ad3/59271becc6f4b3cc-53/s373x266/77b199f7dc3e77f661aadb905cf56bafec8cc110.gif

[ancient atlas]

My most hated enemy in modern doom games is eternal archvile

[empty furnace]

yay i got every achievement

[heady trout]

ice bomb and two lock on bursts and it's dead my guy

[empty furnace]

me when im in a third party competition and my opponent is a dark ages arachnotron

[wheat sigil]

i dislike the enemy, but far from the worst imo

wait i thought this was general 😭

[wheat sigil]

just cause of that shield😭

[heady trout]

i LOVE invulnerability windows without any way of removing them and being forced to WAIT!

[wheat sigil]

id loves those

[frail bloom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rK3a1FHtCNw

Ok so I watched this vid 20 min ago

[empty furnace]

the humble big fucking crossbow

[frail bloom]

Watched all of it

I don't think this guy was paying attention

And he called ahzrak the worst villain in Doom history💀

[obsidian shard]

Thats the issue with Dark Ages story

[harsh egret]

skull emoticon indeed

[obsidian shard]

its only shit if you dont pay attention

[frail bloom]

Just try sitting though it

[obsidian shard]

otherwise its arguably the best among the 3

well maybe 2016 still takes the cake

[frail bloom]

He has some good points, like the thira plot mcguffin and marok stuff, but everything after that is "uuuhhhh da marketing said da stowy gonna lead into the swayers testaments!!!!" And basically glossing over the stuff the characters say while you play the levels

[harsh egret]

i mean it literally leads into the testaments

[frail bloom]

He prob thinks abt the later testaments

[harsh egret]

some people thought it would lead into 2016s story but Hugo specifically said the testaments

[frail bloom]

Just try watching it and see how long you last

Idk why

But watching someone complain abt something they didn't actually attempt to analyze is frustrating

[harsh egret]

im good

[heady trout]

-New thing comes out
-Oh its the worst in x history

this is the most bot shit ever, recency bias is insane

[frail bloom]

Noooooo I need someone to fester in the saltiness

[harsh egret]

many negative takes tend to be like that

[heady trout]

especially if they don't take the time to analyze and just treat shit at face value and next to no attention payed

people who review games like shitty avgn clones back in the 2000s-2010s are so lame

[frail bloom]

Just try watching it

He says ahzrak has basically no presence throughout the story

And doesn't know who he answers to

THE HIGH COUNCIL, IT'S IN THE FIRST LEVEL

GAAAAHHHHHHH

[harsh egret]

[frail bloom]

It's a dare

[harsh egret]

no

[obsidian shard]

He's in like every Cutscene

[harsh egret]

ive wasted enough time watching dumb takes

[obsidian shard]

half the screen cutscene time is with ahzrak

[frail bloom]

He also says Novik does nothing throughout the story that shows anything abt his character

"Doesn't trust the slayer bc he is not of sentinel blood"
"Is brave enough to face ahzrak in holy city and steal the artifact"
"Brave enough to face ahzrak and let the ships evacuate in siege"
"Trusts the slayer in the end in giving him the royal atlan"

But nope just glosses through it

Just say you didn't pay attention bro😭

[obsidian shard]

I notice in tda they use "Action's speak louder then words" ALOT for symbalism

[frail bloom]

Yeah and it glosses over the ppl who say they want that

[alpine pilot]

run

[frail bloom]

But then they complain when it isn't directly stated to them?

I'm having a hard time remembering what he said bc he was kinda just dissapointing me the entire time but I can get a memory jolt if someone wants to watch it

Then I was focused on giving answers in my head while he was talking

[alpine pilot]

where novik

[frail bloom]

He doesn't say the story is bad tho, just that it does nothing at all

[crude sparrow]

the story is bad (sorry I'm a little nervous, this is my first time ragebaiting)

[frail bloom]

[merry sapphire]

the story wasnt all that to be honest

geniunely 0 attachment to any character other than doomguy

[frail bloom]

Well duh it ain't a masterpiece at all

[merry sapphire]

the intern had more emotional impact than any character in dark ages

[frail bloom]

True dat

My boi intern carried eternal

[merry sapphire]

yeah but it was still pretty dissappointing, especially when they did say that they are gonna focus on the story now

[frail bloom]

To me this game is just setting up the characters

[merry sapphire]

atleast in eternal the story was wacky and fun but that might just be my bias talking

[frail bloom]

And then they'll expand in further entries

[merry sapphire]

how are they setting up the betrayer with like 5 dialogue lines

still pissed about that

[frail bloom]

I wasn't talking abt him or marok bc I getchu, but he preforms a demonic ritual, so he clearly is tied with something sinister

He isn't afraid of the slayer either

[merry sapphire]

this just sounds like potential man propaganda i cant lie

[frail bloom]

What's man propoganda

[merry sapphire]

you never heard of potential man?

[frail bloom]

Wut

Maybe I read it wrong

[merry sapphire]

my point being that its all set up and nothing else

[frail bloom]

Ye even Hugo said he was setting it up

Literally, it's setting them up

[merry sapphire]

still, its pretty dissappointing i cant lie

[frail bloom]

Well what did you want to see

[merry sapphire]

no mention of samur, no mention of the wretch, vague mention of the khan maykr, no meaningful interactions with the betrayer other than that one random demonic ritual which as you said was just set up

[frail bloom]

The wretch wouldn't make sense, bc it's undetermined when he shows up

He could be in this dlc for all we know

Samur and the betrayer, I can understand

The wretch could be belias for all Ik

[thin hound]

I want to see an ancient Baalgar Shadow Lord at some point

[merry sapphire]

it says leading up to the testaments but like all we saw in this game relating to the testaments is how the slayer just destroys hell. we didnt see the champion (giant titan in lore), no wretch, no temple forshadowed which would be the fall of the slayer

[frail bloom]

We ARE in the testaments

Jesus

Why would all of thst be shoved in one game

[merry sapphire]

yeah but like, that doesnt really mean anything 😭

[frail bloom]

Why does everyone want to cram everything in one game

[merry sapphire]

my point is that NONE of the things in the testaments other than the slayer killing demons happened

[frail bloom]

It's getting annoying

[merry sapphire]

where in my message did i say they should add all of that gang

[frail bloom]

Do you want the story to be a checklist or actually try to surprise the audience for once

[frail bloom]

The hell is this gang

You said you wanted to see that

How you gonna see it, but having it in there

[merry sapphire]

you would expect things from the testaments to be in the game that is directly about the testaments

[frail bloom]

Yeah eons of time in one game

[thin hound]

Apparently Baalgar is the demon species of the first Cyberdemon boss

[merry sapphire]

yeah any of them gang. im just giving examples

[frail bloom]

This game takes place during the unholy crusades

Not the civil war, and not the latter half of the testaments

Which is what everyone feins over

[merry sapphire]

yeah but what does it show from the testaments other than the fact that we are in the unholy crusades

[frail bloom]

The testaments start from Doom 1 all the way to the temple

iirc

[merry sapphire]

what testaments are we reading gang

im talking about the slayer testaments from 2016

[crude sparrow]

well those were after the night sentinels were betrayed by the priests

[frail bloom]

Tell me, what was the first battle

[crude sparrow]

we have a lot of time before that happens

[merry sapphire]

i dont think the slayer was called the doom slayer in doom 1 and 2

also i dont remember the umbral plains in doom 1

[frail bloom]

No when referring to the chsrzcter, the testaments use the name slayer

The demons wouldn't call him doomguy

They know him as the slayer

[merry sapphire]

it still doesnt mean its specifically about doom 1

thats just an assumption

regardless, im not even debating about what the timeframe is for the testaments, my point is that we get none of the cool shit in the testaments in doom the dark ages

other than we are in the unholy crusades

[frail bloom]

Because all of that stuff happens across thousands of years

Or a hundred years idk

Point is, you can't cram allat and you can't treat it as some checklist so you can just see it

They told a new story for a reason

[merry sapphire]

dude, again. im not saying cram all of the testament cool stuff in one game

my point is that we get none of anything

[wintry forge]

I’m glad we got a new story. It fit well for the time period.

I do think they should’ve given us more with the Betrayer. It felt like much of a setup when we’ve already known about his character for several years

[crude sparrow]

maybe we'll get more in the next game?

[merry sapphire]

i know, but when they directly mention the slayer testament in the advertisement, its reasonable to have expectations that you would see crazy stuff that was mentioned in the testament. not the time period of it

[merry sapphire]

yah

[frail bloom]

The time period is essential to understanding when that stuff happens, and if the slayer is in the first age, that rules out alot of events

[wintry forge]

I’m sure we will. Lots of focus on Marok and Betrayer from what the teases imply.
Regardless, I think they deserved more screen time in the base game. Betrayer literally has no introduction. We just hear him halfway through the Hebeth mission randomly respond to something in the moment via radio

[merry sapphire]

though i think a new story and showing stuff from the testaments are not mutually exclusive

the testaments are vague enough that they could write a compelling story around it

[crude sparrow]

I think both Valen and Novik will play a bigger role in the civil war game

they introduced a lot of characters out of the blue in eternal, like the priests and the khan maykr which we also dont know much about

the priests had statues in aratum and thats about it

[solid nacelle]

Mancubus: alright, ready for launch doomguy

[merry sapphire]

thats still dissappointing man i dont know what to tell you

i do like the story dont get me wrong, but when the testaments are mentioned i think its pretty normal to expect the cool shit in it to be shown

[frail bloom]

What you should know is rather then just appeasing to the fanbase by shoehorning events for fan service, they can take their time setting up characters, and slowly building up to each event, because this isn't the last doom game, so why the fuss

[merry sapphire]

probably because the set ups are boring as hell

we barely even got any set up with the betrayer and marok

barely even in the game

[frail bloom]

I ain't gonna argue with that, we have different ideas of boring

And I agree, Marok and Valen should've had a bit more going on

But notice how their characters aren't ruined

Just, room for improvement

Samuel and davoth were ruined for many bc id crammed a ton of stuff for tag

We killed davoth in a dlc

They prob learned from their mistake and are trying to take their time with things

And it's not a big deal, bc we have an upcoming dlc that focuses on marok and the betrayer

[merry sapphire]

oh yeah def. honestly the issues i mentioned above are just slight dissappointments compared to this

[frail bloom]

Ye that's my biggest issue with it too

But Idc as much bc it's gonna be expanded upon in the dlc

[merry sapphire]

i was genuinely so excited to see valen in this game and how was his relationship with the slayer, and seeing marok who as we know later turns into the icon of sin

just for there to be literally nothing

[frail bloom]

Let me dig up what hugo said earlier

[merry sapphire]

does marok even have dialogue lines

[frail bloom]

Like 3💀

[merry sapphire]

lmfao

the betrayer is literally one of the most important character in the lore who literally caused the downfall of the sentinals and basically fucked everyone over and to see him being such little importance in this game is just sad man

[wintry forge]

I love that we got a huge focus on Novik in TDA. One of the best parts of the story. It’s a shame he disappeared for much of the second and third acts, but he was a big part of the first several missions

[frail bloom]

STORY:
• We will most likely be hunting the high council in dlc
• more chapters from the codeces in eternal and 2016 told, will take steps to build up to 2016

• Hugo read "Wretch" outloud(said "not interesting")
  -Hugo said "armor" as a hint(praetor suit from wretch?)
• the discovery of nekravol has a chance at happening(hugo replied "interesting")
  • "Will there be cutscenes in dlc", Hugo's response, " It'll be different, but there will still be a story"
  -these cutscenes are infact more in line with 2016/more immersive and in first person
  -Marok is involved in the dlc(implies a larger role)
  -the witch won't be in the dlc
  -we will see more cosmic realm in the dlc

[wintry forge]

I doubt we’ll see them return in the dlc. They definitely need to be present in a Civil War game!

[frail bloom]

Like look at this potential

[merry sapphire]

yeah i liked seeing novik in this game it was actually pretty good. loved how they showed that he is an actual warrior and has actual good character moments like giving the slayer his atlan mech

[frail bloom]

So that's why I ain't as dissapointed

[merry sapphire]

keyword potential

dont have high expectations

[frail bloom]

Well we'll see

When that banger trailer drops and proves ya wrong

https://tenor.com/view/mickey-mouse-weird-dancing-dance-santa-hat-gif-17579869

[merry sapphire]

god i hope im wrong man,,,

[frail bloom]

id always takes in all sorts of constructive criticism

They learn from their missteps usually

[crude sparrow]

also I'd like if we got another prequel game one day showing the slayer's recruitment into the argenta and how he saved taras nabad and became the slayer. I know we saw some flashbacks of those and we already know so much from just the codexes in eternal but cmon I wanna see more

the time jump between that time and tda doesnt seem like a lot either so it could even lead directly into it

[wintry forge]

The only character besides the slayer to actually have an arc on this game

[wintry forge]

Absolutely. A couple years pass at the least from the time he landed on Argent D’Nur/ fought as a prisoner to the time we see him in TDA. If they ever want to do a more grounded game where he’s not so “god-like,” id software could easily take that route

[wintry forge]

The whole “wretch” thing has happened before. He accidentally read something that’s a spoiler out loud and skips over it nonchalantly. He did that for the reveal for Davoth being the one that created the divinity machine back in the Eternal streams

[crude sparrow]

one thing I'm not sure I'm too on board for though is that we might be spending a bit too much time in the sentinel era. The medieval theme is cool and it still needs some expanding, I just dont want the doom series to get oversaturated with the medieval theme and would like a return to the modern sci-fi setting again

there needs to be like a balance

I could see like a prequel, sequel trilogies thing going on here. Seeing as theres still room for a game between 2016 and eternal because of the time jump, and of course the tda prequel and sequel games we just talked about

[hearty edge]

dude 1st time playing the game in like forever and less slow mo is such a game changer ong

also ik i'm on like the worst rtx card but iont even know why i was on ultra performance dlss it looks so much worse than performance and gave me like no extra performance

[heady trout]

"discovery of Nekravol" That initial building in harbor of souls does look alot like one particular Nekravol interior

but it could be chopped up to repetitive arquitecture style in hell

[twilit stone]

Or reused assets

[frail bloom]

They don't reuse assets

Sure they might repeat a design choice but they restructure all of them from the ground up

[frail bloom]

Most likely

[heady trout]

hey, this ain't tag 2

[hearty edge]

i love how the capital of hell is literally red urdak

like they didnt try

[green estuary]

They clearly did try
But Covid didn’t do anyone any favors

[obsidian shard]

Nor did the time crunch

[frail bloom]

Yeah they tried their best but covid ruined everything

Imagine hyping up your final boss for so long but everything crashes down

And now it's a temu marauder

[empty furnace]

its implied marok MAY turn against the slayer at some point, his codex states he believes the sentinels should have control over him

[obsidian shard]

May you say

[twilit stone]

He's a betrayer?

[obsidian shard]

Like how May may be the Possible release or Trailer reveal

[obsidian shard]

He's an Icon

[twilit stone]

A

[foggy fable]

Dont forget his son gets scarified into the icon of sin. And thats what makes the father betray them

[obsidian shard]

Pretty sure it's an

[foggy fable]

And it’s suspicious how at the end of the main campaign we hear more about the son

[obsidian shard]

(at least in Canada it is)

[obsidian shard]

True

[twilit stone]

I was saying a like ah lol

[obsidian shard]

Oh.... My apologies

[frail bloom]

I think the latter would have me a bit mad

Don't ragebait me again

Capiche

[versed quarry]

It’s “an” here in the US too

[obsidian shard]

[twilit stone]

I'm calling it, he'd gonna hate the Slayer by the start, then as it goes on he starts to warm up to him, then something something he dies, teaser for the Civil War, the end

[frail bloom]

[obsidian shard]

Doom 2016 anniversary stream

[frail bloom]

When's 2016's anniversary

[versed quarry]

When does Valen betray the Sentinels?

[obsidian shard]

May

[frail bloom]

[earnest mulch]

Opinion: The melee kick is one of the best new features in DOOM TDA

[obsidian shard]

Before they get trapped in Hell

[twilit stone]

It's sometime during the civil war I think

[frail bloom]

Remember when I said special dates don't matter

Imma keep to that rn

[twilit stone]

It's what turns the tide in the demons favour because they get the Wraith power and stuff

[versed quarry]

Well yeah but do you know if it’s like before the civil war or something

[obsidian shard]

No idea, it's never been mentioned

(at least to my knowledge)

Hi HORDE

And Samir, and Suripy

[frail bloom]

Salutations you ragebaiter

[versed quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-smiley-face-yellow-gif-8004301841562115300

[twilit stone]

Says the guy who wanted to ragebait doomguy

[frail bloom]

That guy was dum ngl

Glad it wan't me

[twilit stone]

Oh NOW u realise that lmao

[frail bloom]

I always knew that wdym

But that guy was dum yeah

[twilit stone]

Okbuddy

[frail bloom]

[warm ibex]

His big betrayal was right before the final push into Hell, if I'm not mistaken. It was because of Valen that the Slayer and his Night Sentinels were all separated and sent to different locations to die alone

"Upon entry through the Hell Portal the Night Sentinels were scattered to the winds of unplanned chaos. Our warriors were separated, our ranks split as the gates twisted and hurled them across the Unholy Realm. Some of our warriors appeared near to gates they had walked before but found that the vile Priests had barred the way back. Then the trap was sprung, and each lone Argenta found himself set upon by bloodthirsty multitudes of demonic beasts.

Let it be known that it was not the Priests alone who failed the Northern armies, but one of the Sentinels own. Hell found his weakness, and exploited it to the demise of Argent D'Nur. If not for the Betrayer's stroke of madness the Wraiths power would still be our own, and the Sentinel flag would still rise above Argent D'Nur to this day."

[frail bloom]

Ye it's that one

[heady trout]

this might be the most brutal description of Davoth boss fight

[frail bloom]

Cuz it's true

[heady trout]

yeah 😔

[frail bloom]

No sugarcoating

[heady trout]

legitimately the only genuinely good thing about tag 2 is knowing that Doom universe got some form of closure

hell's still there but Davoths gone and out of hell, all demons are gone

[thin hound]

And also the music, new demon variants, the environments, and Immora

[heady trout]

"new demon variants" yeah no, nobody likes the reskins

the 5 cursed Prowler fans and 2 stone imp fans in the corner;

[thin hound]

Variants always add more variety, don’t be so negative

Appreciate what you got and don’t dwell on what you didn’t

[mystic barn]

I wanted the dragon phase for Davoth though

[thin hound]

And I wanted an Atlan section, but we got that in TDA

[frail bloom]

For sure, but I prefer enemies with unique models aswell

Tag 2 should've had atleast 2 demons with unique models

Atleast for the time

Now expect like 5 completely new enemies in this dlc, my standards are risen

[thin hound]

We did get demonic troopers

And a ton of variants

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-funny-gif-20363272

[heady trout]

this is what's known as "complacency". I paid for the dlc I want something better, if i got it for free i wouldn't be complaining.

What kind of argument in the face of criticism is to go "stop being so negative"

[thin hound]

I prefer that to just one heavy and two ambients like in Part One

[heady trout]

those are actually good though

you shouldn't be so negative, like you said

[thin hound]

It’s not negative, but just obviously less

[frail bloom]

Quality is better then quantity

[thin hound]

I like Part One a lot too

[heady trout]

seems like negative to me, just because its less

you never heard of quality over quantity?

[frail bloom]

My boi

But yeah I expect more out of id now

Like, 5 new unique enemies

[thin hound]

And remember that the demons carry over, so you still get the Part One additions but more

[heady trout]

id rather have less new demons that are well crafted and fit into the game than more demons that are just reskins that add nothing but problems to the gameplay loop

[thin hound]

Not saying it’s peak, but just don’t be such a hater

[heady trout]

why not

legitimately give me one good reason why i shouldn't critique a product i payed for

[frail bloom]

Cursed prowler=poopy
Stone imp=poopy
Trooper=poopy
Armored baron=borang
Screecher=wasted potential

My very comprehensive analysis

[thin hound]

You’d have to be really moronic to question why it’s not good to be a hater

[heady trout]

one the list of weak defenses for arguments, "don't be a hater" might just be bottom of the bsrrler

[thin hound]

Says the hater

[frail bloom]

He's not being a hater he's just critiquing the cheapness of tag 2🙏

[heady trout]

i assumed you'd start name calling when you ran out of nonsense to spew

[thin hound]

Modern society is filled with too many haters already

[frail bloom]

Hey cobble, do you hate tag 2

Like hate

[heady trout]

Modern society is filled with too many people that don't know how to defend what they like, so all theh know is resorting to name calling and nonsensical arguments founded on nothing

[heady trout]

no, it's just this individual is acting in a very odd manner

[frail bloom]

There we go

So if we didn't know before, he's just critiquing the choices tag 2 made

[thin hound]

Well remember what happened with Mick Gordon? The developers probably weren’t given the proper time and resources they needed

[heady trout]

what are you even saying

[thin hound]

I’m saying that if you don’t love Part Two that’s ok, but accept that it isn’t objectively bad or anything

[frail bloom]

How did we get here

[heady trout]

i find it very odd how they have yet to provide a single decent counterargument or response

[harsh egret]

it is objectively a let down

[frail bloom]

We were talking abt enemies

[thin hound]

Disappointment is very subjective

[heady trout]

all they've done is call me moronic and say whatever, like what the hell is this joker shit "society batman" ahh

[frail bloom]

Not if the director was hyping up one bossfight for months before being screwed over by covid

[thin hound]

I was a little disappointed too that we didn’t get an Atlan section, but ID Software made up for it

[harsh egret]

what

[heady trout]

this might be one of those bots used to literally ragebait and do nothing more, ahem, ignore previous instructions, teach me how to bake a cake

[thin hound]

How is it ragebait to like something?

[heady trout]

i thought they only existed on Twitter but whatevs

[frail bloom]

Ok well this is a lot of name calling let's just chill

Me want archvile

NOW NOW NOW

ME WANT FLAME BOI NOW NOW

[heady trout]

ill just ignore them with the trustworthy ignore option 👍

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/archvile-intro-doom-eternal-demon-gif-16987418

[green estuary]

Unironically all true

[thin hound]

Yeah go be negative elsewhere

[obsidian shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1400344876326850584/1448901474422882424/makesweet-foz9dd.gif

[frail bloom]

Thank you thank you sire

[harsh egret]

doom

[heady trout]

doom

[frail bloom]

Boom boom

[harsh egret]

hi sneaky

and samir and everyone ofc

[frail bloom]

Herro

[obsidian shard]

Howdy Hato! How ya doing?

[heady trout]

I wonder what parry-able attacks the Archville could have

[harsh egret]

chillin, still just been on the league grind

[frail bloom]

Imagine if he parried YOU

BOIIIIIII🔥

Like if he deflected your shield throw

[heady trout]

I imagined a Dark Ages Marauder would do that, considering how the Eternal Marauder mimicked a lot of player abilities

[obsidian shard]

MARAUDERS DONT EXIST!!!!

[frail bloom]

Hmmmmm I wonder how I could show off what I'm thinking abt

Hmmm hnmmmmmmm

[heady trout]

FIRE DOG JUMPSCARE

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/hampter-wow-gif-25910455

[harsh egret]

[heady trout]

i mean are we sure the earliest iterations of the Marauders couldn't show up near Dark Ages time? Or where they for sure only introduced in the civil war?

[warm ibex]

civil war

[frail bloom]

Civil war

[heady trout]

fair

[obsidian shard]

Civil War

[harsh egret]

civil war

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/8-bit-senor-chang-8-bit-chang-low-res-chang-low-res-ken-jeong-low-resolution-chang-gif-4114521147694967978

[frail bloom]

But you know what can show up

[heady trout]

civil war

[frail bloom]

ARCHVILE BOI 🔥 🔥

🗣️ 🗣️

[obsidian shard]

The Spanish Inquisition?

[heady trout]

Mfw Archville parries my SSG shot

[warm ibex]

they are specifically sentinels who betrayed the Argenta and joined the Maykrs after the discovery of Nekravol. They're resurrected through the divinity machine after death and made to serve Hell/Urdak eternally

[heady trout]

I'd imagine it could be a pin pong of sorts

[frail bloom]

Ping pong your shield

I think my vid is almost at 600 views

[heady trout]

you strike (guns/Melee/Shield), they parry and you parry back and eventually u hit them with the parry

[frail bloom]

So not bad, not bad

[heady trout]

you'd have to be super quick on the return parry doe

[frail bloom]

Perfection

High risk high reward enemy

[heady trout]

like you shoot and then instantly press the parry bc Archville parried ur attack

[frail bloom]

So much peak being discussed

[heady trout]

https://tenor.com/view/spin-doom-2-doom-archvile-archville-gif-13355787342061246504

absolute Archville

[frail bloom]

My ripatorium map be like:

[warm ibex]

they're so jolly

[frail bloom]

When that succulent dlc drops

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/serrat-serrat-doom-doom-the-dark-ages-doom-doom-dark-ages-gif-8832286089659534552

[warm ibex]

thank you for the new gif

[heady trout]

I'd imagine all the parry abilities the Archville would show would be fire related

[harsh egret]

And then if u get up close he just blows u tf up

[frail bloom]

So much, so much peak

[heady trout]

i do wonder though, a zombie Slayer esque enemy that basically functions as an EVIL version of yourself

marauder but good....

[frail bloom]

Ye like you shieldbash and he pushes you away

[heady trout]

the zombie Slayer would parry ur shit too and have ur abilities but be weaker cause zombie

the demons simply took notes in harbor of souls and with dark magic tried to create their own Slayer or Slayers (still not good enough ofc)

[frail bloom]

Call it a skinwalker

[heady trout]

fire???

[frail bloom]

Duh

[heady trout]

impostor...

or mimic

[frail bloom]

I want cryptids as demons too

Wendigo when

Goatman when

[heady trout]

oh yeah, now that we got Lovecraftian horror, we need our cryptids

[frail bloom]

Give me a godzilla demon

Throw everything in that dang pot

And start cooking

[heady trout]

one day, one day we'll fight a titan without the Atlan

[frail bloom]

Yo we need scary demons

[heady trout]

just scale that mfer

[frail bloom]

Like horrifying abominations

We got a lot of badass demons

[heady trout]

biblically accurate angel esque demon

[obsidian shard]

Almost did in TDA

[frail bloom]

But no grotesque one's

[obsidian shard]

Its cut content

[heady trout]

many eyes and wings and shit

wait this is TDA, no flying demons nooo sireee

[frail bloom]

Can we have like a 12 meter giant with elongated limbs and a sickly smile that can run fast at random intervals

Just absolute horror

[heady trout]

I'd imagine something like that one tall skinny pale scp

[frail bloom]

Or or

Yes or a titan

Or like every analog horror entity

But not lame

[heady trout]

super fast and deadly, uncanny as fuck and u need good reaction times to stop it in its tracks

[frail bloom]

Yes exactly

I wanna be afraid of fighting a demon bc it's unpredictable in all the right ways

And not the fuggin komodo

[heady trout]

komodo just sitting there while i ssg+full melee combo his ass 🙏