the-dark-ages

[crude sparrow]

THAT IS WHAT I WAS SAYING BUT THATS WHAT GOT THEM CONFUSED

[frail bloom]

No the need to endlessly complicate everything is within human nature

So imma keep being human

https://tenor.com/view/im-only-human-after-all-rory-charles-graham-human-im-just-a-human-normal-human-gif-17597509

[versed quarry]

Okay but I know you’re doing it because it sounds funny

[frail bloom]

Nuh uh

[versed quarry]

Yuh-huh

[crude sparrow]

Circumference does sound funnier ngl

[frail bloom]

[versed quarry]

Doomguy when you shake the bag of Doomguy food

[frail bloom]

Doomguy when the motherdemon ressurected all the demons he killed

[crude sparrow]

Which type/brand of cookie do you think is doomguy's favorite

[versed quarry]

Pretty sure he had PTSD by the end of DOOM2 or something

[frail bloom]

No it's the face he makes when being ragebaited by the motherdemon

[versed quarry]

Ah, I see

[violet zealot]

I ment like every doom game in order

[versed quarry]

Well in that case the ragebait worked too well

[frail bloom]

[versed quarry]

He raged so hard he killed the Mother Demon

[crude sparrow]

This is also the face he makes as he points a fully upgraded unmaykr at the mother demon

[frail bloom]

Yes

[hazy pasture]

DOOM 1 › DOOM 2 : Hell on Earth > DOOM 64 > DOOM 3+RoE> DOOM : The Dark Ages+upcoming DLC > DOOM(2016) > DOOM : Eternal+DLCs

[crude sparrow]

Wooah tda has a dlc already?

[hazy pasture]

Yeah we just didn't get it yet

[crude sparrow]

Oh I know it's coming I was kinda just pointing out that you included it in the list when it's not even out yet

[hazy pasture]

Yeah ik I didn't type upcoming cuz it'll be revealed w release date soon

But ig I'll

[crude sparrow]

Dlc dropping in 3 seconds

[hazy pasture]

Oh shit didn't happen in our timeline

[harsh egret]

DLC TRAILER IS OUT

[crude sparrow]

Just saw it

[versed quarry]

You’re trolling

[hazy pasture]

Holy moly

[harsh egret]

NOPE

[hazy pasture]

Mind boggling stuff

[slender night]

Thank you for the info Hatsune I am off to watch it RIGHT NOW!!!

[hazy pasture]

So peak I died

[crude sparrow]

Close enough

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-jones-uzbek-gif-9108365450976190246

[versed quarry]

I knew you were lying. I looked, it ain’t there.

[crude sparrow]

Crazy how Doomguy himself came out of the screen and ripped out my frontal lobe so I'd forget I ever saw the trailer

[harsh egret]

made u look
i won

[crude sparrow]

"made you look" 🥀

[harsh egret]

[warm ibex]

I can't believe the trailer for DOOM: The Dark Ages - Path of Vengeance (the totally official dlc) just released

[fleet spruce]

My heart just stopped, I'm operating on the will

[half marlin]

this was EVIL

😡

[hazy pasture]

Nah Hato is right

Path of Vengeance is the real DLC trailer

[crude sparrow]

No way I'm not falling for another one of your pranks again

[versed quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-lord-davoth-doom-eternal-dark-lord-dying-doom-slayer-gif-21577214

[harsh egret]

[crude sparrow]

When the trailer eventually does come out no-ones even gonna believe it

[versed quarry]

Something something the boy who cried wolf

[obsidian shard]

Boomershooter art ahh behavior

[hazy pasture]

It's either gonna be in Dev Direct or a random tuesday

[harsh egret]

LOL

[hazy pasture]

Twitter ball knowledge

[crude sparrow]

Real

[versed quarry]

Wait what

[harsh egret]

[hazy pasture]

Lmao

That's a whole diff story

[versed quarry]

What’s the context though

[obsidian shard]

He was creating fake "leaks"

[versed quarry]

Ohhhhhh yeah

I remember

[hazy pasture]

Thus when Hato said that the trailer's out

You looked up and welp, boomershooterart core memory unlocked

I remember he made another post after all that

[crude sparrow]

Can we just collectively slime boomer shooter art already

[hazy pasture]

Contact Bishop Kreed and tell him to launch the Slayer right on top of his house

[warm ibex]

I don't think we should even talk about these guys

[obsidian shard]

Real/agreed

[hazy pasture]

Real x2

[harsh egret]

real x3

[warm ibex]

that just gets more people interested in them, therefore driving more people to their socials, resulting in the account traffic that they yearn for

[hazy pasture]

Right right

[wintry forge]

“Face the Horde”
-he said the thing!

That trailer was hella professional. Props to everyone behind that

[hazy pasture]

We all saw what Horde did there

[crude sparrow]

"to win the preset you must kill me, horde mode gaming!"

[hazy pasture]

Mans feeding generations with this one

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/tgwtg-that-guy-with-the-glasses-doug-walker-point-computer-gif-17022655

[hazy pasture]

Horde is Romero in disguise

[wintry forge]

Eons

[hazy pasture]

Real (also I'll be waiting for the day when you feed us with your 2026's very first vid)

[warm ibex]

that was all on Kruge lol

absolute fucking master of his craft

[obsidian shard]

Katsu, since you have access to the TDA Audio files (I thinks) could you send me all the "Pursuit of Demons" music please 🙏

[green estuary]

sure

[wintry forge]

1 week buddy

[obsidian shard]

Thank you goat

[obsidian shard]

Ong dude, shit was official

[warm ibex]

I still need to watch the vid you just recently put out, it's sitting in my watch later atm

[hazy pasture]

So peam

[hazy pasture]

I re-watched your vid on the High Council. Great stuff as always man

We'll be waiting for peak once again

[wintry forge]

Love Kruge man. His edits are always sick

[crude sparrow]

I also got that in my recommended and just put it on my watch later list

Gotta see that

[hazy pasture]

The slowed down GKs got me there. Fucking insane potential

[green estuary]

although you're part of the modding server, you have access to the tools that let you extract them yourself

[wintry forge]

Preciate the support man! Was a fun one

[green estuary]

tbh it would be easier for both of us if I just told you how to extract the audio

(assuming you're on pc)

[obsidian shard]

I'll do that when I get home, also does it work on the Xbox PC app, since I don't have it on steam

[green estuary]

ooh maybe not, nvm then

[hazy pasture]

Can I share some of my speculations and theories I made on the Order Six with you? If you don't mind that is

[obsidian shard]

Also If it's a lot or decent of work to get the audio files and send em over then don't worry bout it dude, Thank you

[warm ibex]

a little surprised that passed youtube's new guideline enforcement restrictions. we'll see if it holds up

[crude sparrow]

Why? What did they change

[wintry forge]

Absolutely!

[crude sparrow]

Like are doom glory kills seriously too much for YouTube now or something

[hazy pasture]

Alrighty then

[green estuary]

well the tda trailer requires you to sign in to watch it lol

[frail bloom]

Ye I remember the dev direct was age restricted

On some videos

Others were not, depends

[warm ibex]

it's not necessarily about the glory kills themselves, but youtube's system detecting them as real life gore

[versed quarry]

It’s not that realistic

It’s cartoon violence

There’s no way

[warm ibex]

reading comprehension still at an all time low 🗣️ 🔥

[harsh egret]

[random sand]

I mean, it's kiiinda realistic... for a fictional game

[random sand]

Lmfao

[versed quarry]

No I’m just saying how is the YouTube algorithm saying it’s real gore

[warm ibex]

it's bursts of blood, guts and bone on screen

[harsh egret]

welcome to the youtube algorithm my friend

[warm ibex]

it's a robot, I don't think it can reliably tell what is and isn't real blood lol

[versed quarry]

Fair point

[random sand]

Youtube's algorithm deletes channels because someone else copies them and they think the original creator is the copycat. Youtube's algorithm is just fucked

[versed quarry]

Also fair point

[warm ibex]

youtube's new AI response/review system has a bad habit of instantly denying most manual review claims too

[versed quarry]

Well I’m willing to bet that’s on purpose so they can keep the ad revenue

[random sand]

Well obviously. But i doubt it's all them since if it was, they'd see the backlash and realize how bad it is for their image. Nah they just don't give a shit. They plopped that new system in there and called it a day😭

[warm ibex]

that's unfortunately not really how that works

when a video gets hit with ad limitations it seems to impact views as well, even if there's not an age limit placed on the video

[obsidian shard]

The 4lp TDA OST is ready for pickup 🥳🎉

FINALLY

(yes I have to pay)

[hazy pasture]

Hell Yeah

[versed quarry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1127080013351620608/1458225063785664512/IMG_3943.gif

You could…

[obsidian shard]

[violet zealot]

Lol

[violet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/doug-dimmadome-fairly-odd-parents-dimmsdale-dimmadome-gif-8035806

[meager vortex]

here is the payment ugly demon

[fading bone]

boom

[fleet spruce]

Ah yes, the 100% discount coupon

[pliant coral]

Best one time coupon.

[hard thistle]

Best part, it NEVER expires!

[hard thistle]

“Keep the change, ya filthy animal!”

[meager vortex]

and happy new year!

[flat elm]

Thanks man, but you late

[stiff turret]

Happy new year!!! 🥳

[errant pewter]

Anyone also having terrible issues with Nvidia's new driver update (DLSS 4.5)? Mine's screen freeze totally on menu.

[tough venture]

I'm not experiencing any issues.

[errant pewter]

Interesting. Is Present From Compute off on your Settings?

[meager vortex]

https://youtu.be/bE5MiuniIN0

@warm ibex nice! bro!

[stone pasture]

Everyone excited for the upcoming dlc and the potential up coming doom games after?

[slender night]

DLC yes future DOOM games no

[empty furnace]

thira probably gets killed by valen

calling it now

[versed quarry]

Don’t say it like that please

[empty furnace]

mb

fixed

[versed quarry]

No it’s cool it’s just that “slimed out” is kinda weird idk

[solar cairn]

A new stream after the holidays?

[harsh egret]

prob find out thursday

[random sand]

that wouldn't make sense. all Valen did was trap the sentinels in hell. i don't even think Valen would be strong enough to kill Thira. besides doom slayer, she's the strongest one of them all

[obsidian shard]

The hell priests trapped the Sentinels in hell,

[random sand]

well Valen assisted them in doing it. he betrayed them

[obsidian shard]

Yes

[wintry forge]

I mean, tbf, he was the one who gave up the Wraiths. That’s what he did. He did get them trapped in Hell necessarily, he gave the priests access to the Wraiths, and the priests did the rest. Thira is fused with the soul of a Wraith, so if she was alive at this point, it’s possible he got her directly killed too

[heady trout]

how tf did the Sentinels not know he was gonna betray them hes LITERALLY called "The Betrayer"

[wintry forge]

Ah, the comedian

[random sand]

yuuup...

why didn't the sentinels know the betrayer would betray them? are they stupid?

[heady trout]

sentinels clearly didn't read the corrax tablets smh

[wintry forge]

😂

Ong biggest plothole in gaming

[random sand]

we don't actually know Thira's fate that well. for all we know, she could still be alive somewhere or she could've been resurrected. Valen was alive in hell so clearly time isn't a concern here

[heady trout]

Ashrak being a prince implies theres a King Ashrak

[random sand]

that's actually something i wanna see for a future doom title if they're gonna make one that takes place after eternal. have Doom Slayer reunite with Thira

[heady trout]

it would be super funny if he was as washed as my goat

[wintry forge]

Fully aware. I’m just saying, it’s possible. If she doesn’t die before the Betrayal, then it’s possible that she’s killed during the Betrayal

[heady trout]

both of them scared shitless of the Slayer

[empty furnace]

maybe he wont kill thira but he’ll do something that leads to the slayer fighting thira

[random sand]

it's possible, but i just can't see it. iirc it was only Argent D'nur's greatest warriors that got trapped in hell. i wonder if Thira was with them

[random sand]

how would he do that

[wintry forge]

Idk, her being written into the story post Eternal would feel forced. The Slayer sought out and located the Betrayer with ease in Eternal, so I feel like if Thira was in the picture, the Slayer would’ve looked for her first

[random sand]

he has no reason to find her. he needed Valen because he could charge his celestial locator. don't think he would need anything from Thira. he was fond of her as far as i could tell tho so maybe he'd just wanna reunite with an ally or something

[wintry forge]

Thira has the power of a literal Wraith bro. She wasn’t even at the Seige of Immora lmao

[wintry forge]

I’d disagree, he wouldn’t just wanna reunite just to reunite, but for her immense power

[random sand]

3 reasons that are possible for explaining that
1: her days of fighting are over and she didn't answer the beacon
2: she's like Novik. a spirit atp
3: Id hadn't thought of her yet

[wintry forge]

I’d like the second one. Likely dead. Would make more sense

[random sand]

the Doom Slayer is stronger than Thira. why would he need her power

[wintry forge]

The same reason he needs a celestial locator

[random sand]

would be kinda lame tho. just saying she's dead and calling it a day

[wintry forge]

The same reason he needs the crucible’s power for the ship

Nah, she’s a prequel character, she serves a purpose in the overall story there

[random sand]

yeah sure but they already established that her power rivals even that of the Doom Slayer so just killing her off and calling it a day feels off to me

[random sand]

to be able to travel to where he needs to go?

[wintry forge]

Very funny…

Obviously id hadn’t thought of her before TDA, but that doesn’t mean she needs to get shoehorned into the story

[wintry forge]

Just because her “fighting days or over” doesn’t mean she’d sit out on literally the final battle against Hell. The thing that took everything for her. All of the Sentinels’ fighting days were over, but they all saw the beacon and knew exactly what was going on. They all regrouped for the final attack. If Thira wasn’t there, then I don’t think she’d be anywhere in the story after the medieval era, unless she was taken somewhere else by a greater power

She’d have more of an obligation to help during the TAG 2 siege because of what she really is

[random sand]

well now you have contradicted yourself because just having her as a character in TDA and not fleshing her out with more screentime makes it feel like they shoehorned her into the story

[wintry forge]

I’m not contradicting myself, I said she works In the grand story as a prequel character

[random sand]

what did this mean then

[wintry forge]

Shoehorned into the story after TAG2

[crisp frigate]

Nobody get mad, but I wanna speedrun UN so I set player damage to 1000

[wintry forge]

💀💀

[random sand]

gl is all i'mma say

[crisp frigate]

Hm?

Oh no I meant I deal 1000, not take

[random sand]

it could be done tastefully. similar to how Novik showed up

[wintry forge]

Ahh, was about to say, nobody gonna get mad, just gonna pray for you

But yeah that’ll make it easier

[random sand]

fair enough

[wintry forge]

They’d really have to be clever with it, as a spirit or something imo, because it would feel cheap to me if she was just “around” this entire time

[crisp frigate]

This has forced me to use alternative weapon upgrades because everyone keeps dying before I can inflict shock or burn and pincushion

[empty furnace]

go for it

[fading mason]

Hello everyone! is there any information about when Hugo will be streamed?

[crisp frigate]

If a player works fast enough they can inflict Azhrak with 3 status effects at once, Shock, Pincushion, and Burn

Burn has the shortest duration, so save it for last, and every one of Azrhak’s attacks trigger Pincushion, so it’s wise to save it for second

And finally, inflict Shock using Cycler first, as it lasts long enough

[empty furnace]

how did we get here

[crisp frigate]

I wanted to make the prince hurt

[wintry forge]

I don’t believe so, not really

[random sand]

i'd say what they could do is have doom slayer need something from the ruins of a castle in argent d'nur and when he finds it, Thira's spirit shows up to try to reach the humanity in him. level with him a little. pretty much the opposite of what Novik did

[crisp frigate]

It brings me great joy to watch demonkind squirm and suffer the pain I bring them

[wintry forge]

Something like that could work.

It would be harder if they try to bring back her character in a more physical way in a future installment. Idk, if the wraith within her draws her to return to the cosmic realm, or somewhere else, maybe having her sort of “vanish” from the demonic threat during the Sentinel Wars could make it work for her to return post-Eternal

[crisp frigate]

If I were to make a theory…Novik reached out to Doomguy in Eternal to try and dissuade him from tearing apart the Makyrs and the benefits they bring to the Sentinels, but, Thira did not appear because she was already in support of his cause, she didn’t need to convince him because his mind was already made

She clearly puts a lot of trust in the Slayer, she wouldn’t have to reach out

[raw slate]

Yup lads

[random sand]

i'm not sure if they'd be together. i can see more that Thira would be someplace else. the cosmic realm or something. also it was the priests, not the maykrs. Novik couldn't care less if Doom Slayer went against the maykrs

[crisp frigate]

Literally everyone in Eternal outside of mankind was telling Doomguy to give up, Novik was no exception, he must’ve seen consequences to defying the Makyrs trying to cull Earth

[heady trout]

except Vega, he was a real one

virgin everyone else: NOOO SLAYER YOU CAN'T DEFY THE KHAN MAKYR STOOP

chad Vega: Want access to the bfg king?

[random sand]

Novik didn't want Doom Slayer to do this because they were of sentinel blood. and when Doom Slayer killed the priest on sentinel grounds, he lost his sovereignty there. think also Novik's mind was twisted because i can't see the dude in TDA saying "you are but one man. they are no longer your people to save"

[heady trout]

noviks been through so much by then

[random sand]

enough to twist his mind like that? he knows how powerful the Doom Slayer is. he shouldn't be underestimating him

[crisp frigate]

I partially can, Novik was on board with the Makyrs implanting Doomguy’s Tether, when he fell and the Slayer took the throne, I could see Novik getting upset over Doomguy’s apathy to affairs of the state

After rising to the literal top, I’d say Novik would expect Doomguy to act more beholden to the Argenta

[random sand]

Novik agreed to the tether because he was legit scared of Doom Slayer's power. he wanted it to be kept under control

he wanted it in the control of the higher ups and not in the hands of a rageful beast

[spark elm]

The Old One has returned. Woe to all who stand before him.

[wide siren]

woe to the old one for we stand inside his gut and it looks very punchable

[crisp frigate]

He probably saw that Doomguy could’ve had a conflict of interest since he wasn’t actually Sentinel, a concern which can additionally come to light in Eternal

[wintry forge]

Yeah, I honestly have no idea why Novik reacted the way he did. Regardless of the explanation, I feel like it makes little sense, unless he was simply warning him of a dark fate the Slayer may personally meet

[crisp frigate]

Novik knew the Makyrs wouldn’t let Doomguy foil their plans

[wintry forge]

I feel like Novik wouldn’t care about the Priests, especially because of what they did to them, but idk. “It is there time to give penance” only makes sense if it’s implying that Novik officially gave up

[wintry forge]

Novik was entirely against the Maykrs through the Civil War. It was him and the Slayer leading their side of the sentinels. I feel like by the end of TDA that trust for the Slayer was there

[random sand]

i could see Novik not caring about the priests but warning Doom Slayer because if he does spill sentinel holy blood on sentinel grounds then their bond breaks but with the rest of his speech? idk. he seemed changed

[crisp frigate]

I feel like a common thing in the modern games is the necessity of Argent Energy, Novik and Hayden both seemed to let it continue despite knowing it was a horrible thing, so at some point Novik must’ve rationalized it to himself somehow

[versed quarry]

VEGA my goat

[wintry forge]

Well it was only when they found the true source of the Essence that Novik put his foot down. I just can’t imagine him turning a complete 180 like that

[wintry forge]

Idk, I can’t imagine Novik switching up like that. Unless it was him just giving up

[crisp frigate]

I had a weird thought, maybe Novik was BSing in Eternal?

[random sand]

i believe him becoming a spirit changed him. or... bear with me... theory time... that's not actually King Novik

[versed quarry]

He was ragebaiting Doomguy so that he’d kill the priests and Maykrs harder

[wintry forge]

I’ve seen that theory, i have mixed opinions

[crisp frigate]

If it seemed so out of character for him then maybe that’s why he did it, and probably why he was still a spirit

[wintry forge]

YES

[crisp frigate]

Yeah, that makes the most sense to me

[random sand]

i like this theory more

[versed quarry]

I genuinely have no clue what his motive would be otherwise

I just think he was trolling

[crisp frigate]

If Novik was killed during the civil war, I doubt the Makyrs wouldn’t have cared to leave his spirit and just churned it in the Essence blender

[versed quarry]

I think his death probably marked the end of the civil war

The Maykrs and priests would have no opposition

[crisp frigate]

We know that by Eternal, the Makyrs have assumed a direct grip on Argent D’Nur, so maybe they kept his Essence around to try and use him to get people to accept Makyr rule?

Much like how the Romans adapted cultures in order to more easily expand their conquest

[versed quarry]

I suppose

But the priests seem like they would already be a familiar group to have as rulers

[crisp frigate]

That would probably make sense why he speaks the way he did in Eternal, he’s ragebaiting because he can’t outright voice support

[crisp frigate]

Well yeah, but they’re also visibly corrupted, they look wrong, it’s a case of marketing, and Novik’s the mascot for their business

[versed quarry]

Well how often would the average person see them

I don’t think the sentinels have like TV

Also, there’s a certain prominent US political figure that’s a sickly shade of orange and people don’t seem to mind

[fleet spruce]

The Ages are Dark... I feel the Resurrection of Evil... Hell on Earth is near...

[crisp frigate]

Look on the bright side, he’s not tripping up the stairs

[wintry forge]

Novik didn’t die

He survived the Betrayal

[crisp frigate]

Novik not dead?

[versed quarry]

He’s doing worse I’d say

[wintry forge]

He is now, but he survived the Betrayal

[crisp frigate]

Matter of opinion, but not the place for it

[crisp frigate]

Oh, huh, I need to read the Codexes again

[versed quarry]

Yeah this isn’t the place to talk about it

[versed quarry]

He probably didn’t survive all too long

[wintry forge]

It’s one of those hidden/ obscure lore details. Novik wrote the Exultia codex, which is in the tense of post-betrayal. Pretty compelling too

[stone pasture]

Do anyone think we will get a game that takes place between 2016 and eternal?

[wintry forge]

I mean yeah, he was already old af

[crisp frigate]

Maybe someday, but I feel like that’d be okay for a DLC rather than its own game

[brave pendant]

TDA Slayer really slaps my cheeks. Need to do my second playthrough.

[stone pasture]

Doom 2016 and eternal won't get that type of dlc because 2016 is complete and eternal only gets cosmetics

[crisp frigate]

I’ve coated all the cosmetics in Reverent

[brave pendant]

I can’t bring myself to like Eternal the same way. I don’t hate it, I think it’s cool, idk what it truly is.

[crisp frigate]

I find things about all 3 games to like and dislike, surprisingly they’re not all the same

[stone pasture]

At least they canceled doom 4, or we wouldn't have gotten doomguy being doom slayer

[crisp frigate]

For example, TDA brings back a lot of the immersive features that really made me love Doom 2016, adding sprint and giving us a good sensation of landing on the ground

But in critique, this is the best Quake game I’ve ever played

[stone pasture]

Doom isn't a quake game

[crisp frigate]

It was a joke

[stone pasture]

K

[brave pendant]

I was gonna say TDA feels like a perfect in-between of Eternal and 2016 for me.

[crisp frigate]

It’s not, it’s the in-between of 64 and 2016

[brave pendant]

I don’t mean chronologically lol

[crisp frigate]

Oh

[brave pendant]

I mean in terms of gameplay feel

[crisp frigate]

I sometimes make just a little fun of how aesthetically the game is heavily reminiscent of Quake I

[brave pendant]

It did remind me of that a little

[slender night]

Hexen too

[crisp frigate]

Doom 2016 and Eternal is a helluva good things on both sides situation

Doom 2016 has faster walkspeed, effective melee attacks, better immersion, an in-depth codex, the Heavy Assault Rifle, makes better use of the powerups, better use of the keycards, a 2-shot Super Shotgun, a better Chainsaw

Doom Eternal has the Meathook, faster action, enhanced mobility, vastly superior weapon mods, lots of cosmetics, Milestones, a hub, demon weak points, a straightforward combat puzzle, transactional equipment features

Something that always irks me is whenever someone complains about reusing assets, because in majority cases, reusing assets works because it’s consistency

[empty furnace]

whats yall favorite soundtrack from doom tda

[fleet spruce]

probably Into the Void

so hard to pick

[slender night]

I like Ancestral Beast the most probably

[obsidian shard]

Infernal Chasm, Theomachy, Apotheosis, From the Ashes

[random sand]

aside from When The Shadows First Lengthened, probably Unholy Siege or Atlan Battleground. From The Ashes is also very good. damn. picking a favorite is tough

[crude sparrow]

unchained predator probably

[obsidian shard]

Atlan Battleground is BUSSIN, same with Blood Red

[crude sparrow]

but tda has a lot of bangers

[wintry forge]

Tie between Into the Void and Battle on the Blackened Tide

Oh shoot can’t forget Blood Red

[random sand]

Blood Red gets an honorable mention from me as well. that orchestral part is just heavenly. and Atlan Battleground is just perfect. combines nearly all doom games' soundtrack style into one song

[crude sparrow]

I'm a little disappointed in the actually in-game mix of some of the tracks though, like if you listen to infernal chasm on like spotify for example those beat drops and riffs go extra hard, meanwhile in game it kinda just repeats the 2 riffs and thats it

[wintry forge]

Blood Red definitely top 3. It’s hard to choose the best of those 3

[random sand]

true

[wintry forge]

The cutscene mixing is pretty off also. Can barely hear the riffs in the scene where the Slayer finally breaks his tether off

[random sand]

if i were to pick a top 3, it would be very tough but i would go with

1. WTSFL
2. Unholy Siege
3. Atlan Battleground or Blood Red i honestly can't decide

[crude sparrow]

yeah, same with the introduction of serrat. But it wasnt always like that, I remember being able to hear them really well at launch

[random sand]

from the ashes too. that heavy guitar sounds beyond this earth

[random sand]

idk, i thought it was fine there

[wintry forge]

Lots of soundtrack issues at launch. My brother told me he never had music on Harbor of souls (we both had the preorder release of the 12th). Poor dude never got to experience Battle on the Blackened Tide

[crude sparrow]

same thing happened to me actually

I thought that was how it was supposed to be at first xD

[random sand]

i never had any issues with it and i pre-ordered the premium edition

[wintry forge]

Same thing happened to me lmao. I noticed when I picked up the Berserk it seemed quiet. I just re launched the game and it fixed

[wintry forge]

Lucky man!

[random sand]

indeed. i got to experience the full peak without issues

actually now that i think of it. i can't recall ever running into many bugs in the game

[wintry forge]

Funny enough, some “all cutscene” vids on YouTube actually suffer the same problem. Some people posted the cutscenes during that prelaunch couple days. So if you watch some of them, there’s no music in the cutscene where the Slayer wakes up as a zombie lmao

[random sand]

good thing Bethesda themselves came for that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g56M156NXis&pp=ygUgZG9vbSB0aGUgZGFyayBhZ2VzIGFsbCBjdXRzY2VuZXM%3D

[crude sparrow]

yeah just sucks that the comments on that video are absolutely horrendous

[random sand]

just scimmed through them and yeah, you ain't wrong 😭

[green estuary]

Just poor timing tbh

[wintry forge]

Yeah, getting review bombed basically by people thinking id software is Bethesda

[green estuary]

Happened to be the first video they put out after the twitter incident

[random sand]

don't think this had anything to do with Id or Doom

[crude sparrow]

it didnt

[wintry forge]

I know, but the comments of a Doom vid are being directly effected because of something that had nothing to do with id software

[random sand]

comments don't matter that much. hell, doubt anyone working for Bethesda has actually read any of 'em 😭

[crude sparrow]

I assume it was the bethesda twitter manager going rogue or something. Theres no way anyone in their right mind would think that posting something like that on a brand account would be good

[wintry forge]

Yeah, pretty dumb

Opinions aside, very dumb action

Reminds me of the intro of the Child’s Play remake

[void hornet]

wait, you are telling me people though that posting this video was a jab at Charlie Kirk???

[thin hound]

People are stupid and get upset over any tiny thing

[random sand]

can't say i remember what they said

[green estuary]

It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to understand why lol

[wintry forge]

Nah, the twitter comment by Bethesda came out exactly when this vid was posted. Same week

[void hornet]

please enlighten me

[crude sparrow]

the twitter post was supposed to be if I'm not mistaken, but then people started commenting about it everywhere even if it's not relevant

[wintry forge]

So people retaliated by commenting on this vid because it was Bethesda’s YouTube channel

[green estuary]

P much

[random sand]

i'm curious to what they said now. is the tweet still up or they take it down?

[void hornet]

it says a lot that they thought they were talking about kirk when posting a clip of Indi hating Fascism xddddd

[thin hound]

Exactly

[frail bloom]

Where's my doom

Tis isn't doom

[void hornet]

wdym

[frail bloom]

What's a kirk all I know is doom

[thin hound]

There are so many bored losers looking for a reason to hate on Bethesda

Not that they’re perfect or anything, as with the whole MG debacle

[void hornet]

even funnier when there's actual valid reasons to call them out for, but as always they use the "It's woke" card as a supposed argument

[empty furnace]

whats the komodo champion theme called

[thin hound]

Black Mire I think

[green estuary]

Ancestral beast

[random sand]

isn't that just ancestral beast

[green estuary]

But that section ain’t in the OST

[thin hound]

Not really

[frail bloom]

It's a variation

Not used in the official ost

[thin hound]

Someone in this server posted the gamerip, I downloaded it and now it’s my ringtone

[green estuary]

The game file header is black-mire

[random sand]

the part that plays when fighting the komodo champion just sounds like a part of ancestral beast. didn't know it was special

[frail bloom]

I think it's good

[green estuary]

But the track black mire doesn’t exactly exist outside of the game files

[frail bloom]

Not smt amazing but it's good

To me

[obsidian shard]

My first OST remix is almost done, its 12 miuntes long - Infernal Chasm, I learnt alot from this

[frail bloom]

You're trying out mixing?

[obsidian shard]

aside from faan remixes and stuff

[frail bloom]

Interesting

[obsidian shard]

yup

[frail bloom]

Just for fun or for a project

Like a trailer

[random sand]

is it a hot take for me to say ancestral beast might be the track in TDA that underwhelmed me the most

[obsidian shard]

Some pretty interesting stuff
, just for fun

[frail bloom]

That's colossus unleashed for me

[random sand]

in fact that whole-ass level underwhelmed me tbh

[thin hound]

Not at all, the official version isn’t good

[frail bloom]

It's ok

It utilizes the e2m9 theme

[random sand]

what level does that play in again? 😭

[frail bloom]

Or e2m8 I can't remember

[thin hound]

It’s a bad mix when you realize the riffs they didn’t include

[frail bloom]

Final battle, mech battle sections

Just

[random sand]

yeah i hear it. gonna be honest, when people say the whole "it sounds like generic metal" bullshit, i think this is the track they were listening to 😭

[obsidian shard]

Theres some good shit in it imo, the chanting and the guitar solo is great, other stuff is alright-ok

[heady trout]

the only level I'd call truly underwhelming is hellbreaker, Asscracks hologram just goes "Our time will come", vanishes and mini boss and then a portal takes u out, this an Eternal level 😭

[frail bloom]

Ye def

[thin hound]

In game Colossus Unleashed has some pretty cool sections

[frail bloom]

This is that track

Chanting is un-interesting, riffs are generic

It's like a bad doom 2 track

[thin hound]

It works better while playing than listening on its own

[fleet spruce]

they say that seems to be regardless of what they actually have listened

[green estuary]

Bold of you to assume those same people possess the attention spans necessary to actually pay attention to the music until the very end of the game

[versed quarry]

Bold of you to assume they finished the game

[random sand]

true lol

[thin hound]

Those comments were probably from before they updated the game multiple times to play heavy fighting music more often in every chapter

[random sand]

it's funny. whenever some jackass tries to say "but the music! it's not as good as 2016 and eternal! they needa bring our lord and savior Mick Gordon back!! the dark ages' music is just generic metal!!! whaaa!!" and they try to provide you a song from Mick to prove their point, they always pick that one part of The Only Thing They Fear Is You or BFG Divison. it's never any other song. ONLY those two and ONLY specific parts of it

[fleet spruce]

I'm certain more than half of those people are on the Mick train and say that just to add oil to the fire

[slender night]

Bold of anyone to assume that at least half of people saying that aren't just Mick Gordon glazers who are gonna be dissatisfied no matter what :p
Not as uncommon of an occurance

[fleet spruce]

and will praise random electronic farts as second coming of Christ i noticed

[slender night]

I like VEGA Core but after Gristwatch pointed out to me it sounds like a video of a bird pecking at a microphone I just can't unhear it 😭

[crude sparrow]

https://youtube.com/shorts/nCmI5Yc_dTg?feature=share alright took me a while to get it onto youtube but this is basically what I was talking about
I'm pretty sure that riff does actually play in game but that beat drop is absolutely insane and it sucks its only in the ost release and not in game

[crisp frigate]

I preordered the premium on Steam, but there’s something wrong with it, and I can’t tell if it’s cuz my laptop’s not able to run it or not

Whenever I load in the game, it just…Doesn’t load, I get through the little studio credits and then just a black screen

[random sand]

when eternal came out they were complaining it wasn't as dark and edgy as 2016. when the dark ages came out they were complaining it wasn't doom eternal 2 (unironically i saw some people say this. i'm not joking). you just can't win with these people

[versed quarry]

Don’t get me wrong, Mick Gordon is good. He’s great even. (And honestly if Bethesda hadn’t screwed him over I’d rather have him be the one doing the music) But the music we got for The Dark Ages is also amazing, and I like it a lot.

[fleet spruce]

can't wait for the 4th divisive game

[crisp frigate]

Was it Bethesda themselves or ID that messed with Mick Gordon?

[slender night]

#the-dark-ages message

[random sand]

yeah pretty much

[slender night]

Meanwhile Quake 1 fans watching the game get three "sequels" but none of them are actually in any way close to the original game

[frail bloom]

Ye I would rather have him but y'know apples to oranges

[mystic barn]

Marty Stratton almost exclusively

[crisp frigate]

F

[versed quarry]

Also this, when Eternal released they complained that it was 2016. Now The Dark Ages releases and they want it to be Eternal.

[random sand]

i'm honestly fine with FM. they proved they could handle it with this ost so i trust 'em

[slender night]

Since we're having the quadrillionth Mick topic of the week I'd like to remind everyone that he also did the music for Wolfenstein and that it was a stellar cinematic and at times orchestral beauty, so he would definitely be fit for TDA

But FM also cooked, so like, who cares! Two cakes!

[frail bloom]

Don't get me wrong I love what they did but if I had to choose between the two, Ik what I'm picking

[versed quarry]

Yeah, exactly, we got two cakes.

[thin hound]

I have a feeling that Finishing Move is going to drop a few of the best and craziest DOOM tracks we’ve ever heard for the DLC

[frail bloom]

I want it

I need it

[slender night]

I want them to get Chris Vrenna back for a future game. Too underrated of a composer to be casted down to three menu themes across all of id Software's games

[crude sparrow]

one thing I actually like is that the dlc ost is finally gonna have the same style as the base game one, unlike in tag because they had to switch composers

[random sand]

considering what he made for when you enter argent d'nur in doom eternal, the dude could cook

[versed quarry]

Exactly, I have a preference, but I’m not upset with what happened.

[frail bloom]

Ye it's how I see it

[thin hound]

Didn’t he do an optional OST for Quake Champions or something

[frail bloom]

He knows his stuff for sure

[random sand]

oh definitely

[crisp frigate]

I haven’t played QC and I’m kinda sad because QC’s basically dead now, or so it seems to be

[slender night]

I was about to reiterate on that yeah it appears he did do some music for it. I only play it every few months for a round or two so I really don't remember. I'd like to see him back for a singleplayer game though, he stole the spotlight every time imo

Quake 4's OST stands its own against just his contribution but it's by far the best track of the game and it's not even close

[thin hound]

I only ever have Hulshult’s music on in settings though

Goroth is just too good and I love the menu theme

[fleet spruce]

Man I'm starving, could use some more Finishing Move right now.

[versed quarry]

“100 Quake 4 tracks V one Mick Gordon track”

[frail bloom]

When they did those music snippets, those were peak

[crisp frigate]

I wonder if we’ll get Dark Ages on Switch

[frail bloom]

Hunkered down on the latest short video

[thin hound]

Even the Switch 2 would struggle with running it I bet

[slender night]

Hey now the Quake 4 OST is very good, it's just that Vrenna's contribution to it is the shining star that shines so bright it melts everything down :p

[random sand]

i'm actually very interested in what they'll make for the dlc. they gotta cook for it

[fleet spruce]

Expect a switch 2 release sometime maybe. Basic ass switch won't cut it

[crude sparrow]

it runs alright on steam deck from what I've heard so idk the switch 2 could work

[fleet spruce]

It definitely will

[random sand]

idek if the switch 2 could handle it 😭

[empty furnace]

what yall think of the vagary

[versed quarry]

No I just saw what you were saying and my brain went “oh it’s like that one thing” and thought it was funny

[frail bloom]

Peak

My fav design in tda

[thin hound]

Maybe at 24 FPS it’ll run

[frail bloom]

Imp stalker second

[slender night]

Hulshult's menu theme for the game is pretty good yeah but Vrenna's one knocks it out of the park imo. One of my favorite tracks from all of id Software's franchises

[crisp frigate]

Ew that would suck, hate having to buy a Switch 2 to get it

[random sand]

it's fine. not the most fun enemy to fight but ain't miserable either. i like how much of a threat he is

[placid rampart]

Idk what kind of black magic they did to do it, but TDA runs very smoothly on the steam deck and is even officially verified

[slender night]

Ahhh I see then yeah I didn't catch that oops

[empty furnace]

i think the cosmic baron is the best baron

[frail bloom]

Not me

Classic all the way boiii

[crisp frigate]

I’m very much not inclined to buy a Switch 2 because it’s just straight up not worth buying, too anti-consumer for me

[thin hound]

Just listened to it, certainly sounds like standard menu music to me. Kind of like DOOM Eternal ambience, not really anything heavy enough

[crisp frigate]

I prefer 2016, Eternal’s is cool and all though

[versed quarry]

It made me wonder if we got more unconventional super-heavies in Eternal instead of more humanoids

[empty furnace]

le komodo

[slender night]

What do you mean the Vrenna menu theme isn't heavy 😭

[versed quarry]

No it’s fine

[random sand]

i like eternal's one. his design is sick

[fleet spruce]

It definitely can , especially now that handheld preset is available I'm certain it'd run with performance a bit better than my ROG Ally. It has enough firepower and is atleast twice the performance of Steam Deck.

[versed quarry]

Yeah but what if they had did it in Eternal

[fleet spruce]

Fair, just get a Steam Deck

[versed quarry]

Fuck Nintendo dude

[crisp frigate]

I will eventually, putting my nose to the grindstone for it

[random sand]

iirc the switch 2 is about as strong as a ps4 pro. doom the dark ages is a ps5 game

[placid rampart]

I’m in this camp, they’re a bit more expensive I think, but you’ll get WAY more bang for your buck

[green estuary]

Tbh with the way arenas were laid out in eternal, a big enemy with more of a footprint would’ve kinda sucked imo

[empty furnace]

nintendo when you add a m*d that makes mario a darker shade of red

[thin hound]

Steam Deck doesn’t have exclusives though

[green estuary]

TDA can afford to do it because the battlefields are enormous, eternal not so much

[slender night]

It does have games that the Switch 2 doesn't have though

[crisp frigate]

It doesn’t need exclusives, Steam Deck is literally Steam on the go

[versed quarry]

Fair I suppose

[placid rampart]

Nothings exclusive if you’re willing to step outside the law

[thick coral]

me when my ages are dark or whatever happens in tda i never played it

[crisp frigate]

Any concept of exclusives would basically undermine the draw of Steam

[fleet spruce]

Z1 Extreme ROG Ally is in the same ballpark tho. And I'm running the game 720p 60 fps on handheld preset while playing on the go, it's magical

[versed quarry]

I mean they didn’t have to be bigger they could just been more abstract and less generic humanoid

[frail bloom]

Maybe a flying superheavy

[empty furnace]

like the vagary?

[frail bloom]

Would've made sense for eternal

[empty furnace]

groal the great from silksong comes to mind

[placid rampart]

Idk for sure, but if they could get eternal on switch 1, I think they could somehow get dark ages on switch 2

[thin hound]

I do think that Eternal has some of the weakest designs for recurring enemies though, but some of the more exclusive demons like the pain elemental are really cool

[fleet spruce]

Literally just a matter of time

[versed quarry]

Yeah they’re just an example though

[versed quarry]

Could’ve been cool

[crude sparrow]

super gore nest master level with 3 archviles in 1 arena:

[thin hound]

Vagary and komodo are both fantastic DOOM designs

[empty furnace]

demon dragons

[thin hound]

Yeah like the ones in Immora

[frail bloom]

Been too long, last one we fought was Maledict

[crisp frigate]

I daresay Panic Button could get TDA on Switch 1, I have heard tale that Nintendo is secretly still having studios produce cartridges because the game keys aren’t selling

[frail bloom]

We need dragon enemies

[crude sparrow]

wdym we got big cacodemons and thats about it

[random sand]

https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158

[thin hound]

They’ve already got the models from The Ancient Gods, should be easy enough for them to implement

[versed quarry]

That’s probably because they just went back to the classic designs

[placid rampart]

Crazy if true. Also no shit the game keys would be doing poorly

[frail bloom]

Exactly gimme a dragon not some oversized caco

[empty furnace]

the hellwings, giant dragons that hunt in the skies of hell

[versed quarry]

Well they aren’t the actual games they’re just the codes on a cartridge

[thin hound]

I think there was just too much beige among all the demons like mancubi, revenants, and tyrants

[crude sparrow]

but the imps are purple

and hairy

[crisp frigate]

Nintendo’s issue rn is the same thing as fast food in the US, the company had a good product made by a visionary, but the company changed hands to businessmen who don’t understand the factors that made the product good

[frail bloom]

They don't import designs they make them from the ground up

For each new engine

[crisp frigate]

Well…Yeah, it’s fuckin stupid

[empty furnace]

we need giant flying spiders in doom

[thin hound]

They still have the design reference

[frail bloom]

That is true

[thin hound]

I mean the pinky is almost identical between the first two games

[empty furnace]

we should get actual underwater combat in doom

[fleet spruce]

Dude it literally won't be possible to port, Switch just can't run the RT stuff in the first place. They'd have to go Quake 1 sega saturn route and rebuild game from scratch within constraints of the hardware.

[frail bloom]

It is, excluding minor differences

[thin hound]

Possessed sharks!

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/aw-hell-nah-what-ah-hell-nah-hell-nah-theangrygrandpashow-angry-grandpa-destroys-microwave-gif-9803936862620064014

[versed quarry]

Yeah the Dark Ages imp designs are my favorite in the whole series

[thin hound]

Me too

[crisp frigate]

Cartridges hold the game, Keys unlock the game from the store, when you buy a game key you’re not buying the game, you’re buying a right to play the game, which is subject to being revoked if they so choose

[versed quarry]

Yeah I said that too and everybody said they could

[earnest mulch]

TDA super shotgun packs the best "oomph" in each shot IMO

[fleet spruce]

I can't tell if it's delusion or desperation honestly

[thin hound]

Now that I think of it, the demon designs in the first game were very alien to fit the Mars aesthetic, Eternal’s were more humanoid for Hell on Earth, and The Dark Ages has very medieval demons to match the Sentinels’ look on Argent D’Nur

[frail bloom]

Someone gotta keep the guy air-camping accountable

[placid rampart]

Didn’t they do that same thing with a few switch 1 carts? I think with the MGS collection as an example, it didn’t actually have the game in the cart, just a script to download it off the internet

[frail bloom]

Boom. Flying superheavy

[harsh egret]

[crude sparrow]

the eternal ssg sounds like a bunch of teeth spilling on the floor imo xD

[frail bloom]

Y'all seethe cuz you ain't skilled enough to handle it

[harsh egret]

u got me

[frail bloom]

Pretty easy too

[versed quarry]

Wait

[thin hound]

I would like one Giant Cacodemon bossfight please

[versed quarry]

Perfect excuse to bring the Mother Demon to modern DOOM

Flying super-heavy

[thin hound]

Maybe the giant lost souls are going to be that?

[versed quarry]

My gunyus is gunyusing

[frail bloom]

What

[empty furnace]

meatball champion

[thin hound]

There are models on Artstation for giant lost souls, but I’ve never seen them in game

[versed quarry]

(Or DOOM64 Pain elemental)

You pick

[fleet spruce]

Impact and the feedback from it probably have to do a lot with that

[empty furnace]

we need demon chickens

[frail bloom]

Well there's also archvile and hell noble skulls yet they didn't use those

[fleet spruce]

Easy there, Satan

[brave pendant]

Taco Bell vs Doomguy

[versed quarry]

It’s a cool as fuck design alright

[empty furnace]

we ALL want flying marauders

[versed quarry]

If you push it they can make it three mouths

[empty furnace]

especially ones that can only be killed with one specific weapon

[versed quarry]

What was that @fleet spruce

[crude sparrow]

make a gun that exclusively only fires the microwave beam from eternal for that

[empty furnace]

hell yeah

[earnest mulch]

My one gripe with the TDA soundtrack, and I really enjoy many of the songs: Most of the ambient/between combat music is forgettable, or not good IMO. Hearing the same motif played in every Cosmic Realm level got annoying. 2016, Eternal, the DLCS all have excellent ambient tracks that set the tone and bring anticipation of what's next

[thin hound]

#artwork message

[frail bloom]

Ye ik what you're talking abt but it's unlikely for them to reuse a model and spoil an enemy months prior to release

[harsh egret]

^

[frail bloom]

They'll all either be heavily altered or they'll be entirely new

[thin hound]

I mean maybe it was supposed to be in the main game but they scrapped it until it was ready for the DLC

[frail bloom]

And why share it?

[fleet spruce]

I would have nightmares from having to deal with a two mouthed pain elemental that spams dark ages sized lost souls and I don't even dream.

[versed quarry]

Wait what about the Arch-vile and Hell noble skulls?

[versed quarry]

No what were the numbers

[frail bloom]

They were concept art but as far as I'm aware, they ain't in game

[versed quarry]

Oh

Could you post a link?

[frail bloom]

Lemme see

[fleet spruce]

Not sure either

[versed quarry]

I thought that was you that posted them

[frail bloom]

#the-dark-ages message

[versed quarry]

It was too fast, maybe I saw somebody else

[frail bloom]

This I believe

[thin hound]

They were like, “We could bring back the Archvile, or we could just put hundreds of them in the game in the form of the heavy imp stalker”

[frail bloom]

My cuz thought the stalker was the archvile

[versed quarry]

The image links are broken

[frail bloom]

Well horde posted them

He might have them still

Hol on I do have the image

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1378369563384741920/1458557078573678795/image.png?ex=696012a2&is=695ec122&hm=456ab92c856cccd72d44f26f8075fe6663ba8d5d32e579e2394952ba2d30dc1e&

[thin hound]

I’m surprised nobody ever talks about the living demon tank with a skull face, kind of a cool addition to the enemy roster and is also an insane concept

[earnest mulch]

I like them, they're reminiscent of the wall textures in DOOM 1

[thin hound]

That top skull looks like Gladiator

[earnest mulch]

For sure. I'm thinking of the green walls that have the baron and archvile faces

[versed quarry]

Oh shit that’s cool as Hell

[thin hound]

I think they probably were used in game, but just as background props in some pile in the corner of a Hell chapter

[fleet spruce]

Ah yes, classic baron and eternal archvile

archvile skull looks so fucking metal

[crude sparrow]

I love the huge teeth

also would be cool if we ever saw that cyberdemon design from 2016 again

[merry sapphire]

yall think we getting a dlc trailer before 2026

[versed quarry]

Well it’s the gladiator which is a classic Hell knight

[earnest mulch]

Any recent tidbits about the TDA dlc? I've been out of the loop for a few weeks

[merry sapphire]

nothing new

[solar spoke]

what variety of awesome is this now? Did I miss an announcement or something?

[obsidian shard]

Its concept art and what not

[solar spoke]

cool, maybe we'll see them in the DLC then

[obsidian shard]

THAT WOULD BE PEAK

[fleet spruce]

The time is now...

[alpine pilot]

where doom

[violet zealot]

Here

[signal mauve]

guys what graphics card should i get for this game 🙏🏼

[violet zealot]

The best of the best

[odd grove]

Anyone here beat a pandemonium campaign? I just finished mine and I've been working on it for like 2 months T^T

[alpine pilot]

For reference: I'm running rtx4060 laptop 1600p and with DLSS ultra performance and FG i get 1% lows above 130FPS. Recent DLSS 4.5 update also made ultra performance upscaling look really good; in D:TDA, it arguably looks better than some games' DLSS implementation, even when set to quality.

[signal mauve]

Oh alright i think ima buy a rtx 5070 TI pc with amd ryzen 7 7800X3D

[alpine pilot]

you'll definitely get a lot from the game with those

[harsh egret]

same gpu and similar performing cpu as me, game will run amazing

[warm ibex]

holy shit

I didn't realize you were capable of speaking

[crude sparrow]

wdym? all I see there is "where doom"

[empty furnace]

what does blood sacrifice do with cannibalism

[empty furnace]

i got a 5060

it works fine

which is better accelerator or ravager

[warm ibex]

kinda situational. I like both but lately I've been leaning more towards the Ravager

[harsh egret]

alrighty time to finally play some presets

[crude sparrow]

I love the accelerator

ramps up faster than the ravager and doesnt slow you down

and the heat blast is fucking goated

but ravager works better at range

[empty furnace]

there is an upgrade that removes the slow-down effect

[crude sparrow]

yeah I used to use that because I hate that it normally slows you down but you're sacrificing dps with it

[empty furnace]

combined with the auto turret (the first time im actually using that thing) it can get you a LOT of hp back

[crude sparrow]

thats true the hp drops from the ravager are nice

I guess if you wanna melt like a super heavy from range, the ravager would be a better pick but in close range the accelerator works better imo

[empty furnace]

the auto turret also adds hp drops

[crude sparrow]

yeah but it's not much tbh

I think it's more worth it to take the falters and armor the ground fissure provides

[empty furnace]

what does ground fissure give?

ive never personally used it

once i got heaven splitter i almost exclusively ran that

[crude sparrow]

armor per enemy hit and also falters everyone in the way

heaven splitter is still busted but it doesnt give you any extra melee recharges unlike the other runes

[wintry forge]

Who is the author of this? On Artstation

Might be a @warm ibex question

[harsh egret]

iirc it was Solomon

[wintry forge]

Gotcha

[harsh egret]

horde made some banger presets man

[wintry forge]

Sure is. Thanks

[obsidian shard]

HOLY PEAK name Hato

And LM

[frail bloom]

I did before release but when I realized it couldn't move, kinda sapped all the fun outta it

Not saying it should move, maybe it couldn't in the arenas

But I was hoping for smt else

[warm ibex]

im glad it doesn't man 😭

[frail bloom]

Again it is a tad too big

But y'know I can understand it

[warm ibex]

I like that they're living tanks made from the remains of titans though, that's cool as fuck

[frail bloom]

Very good design

[crude sparrow]

I like that it's made out of flesh and blood but explodes like a normal machine would xD

[obsidian shard]

If they could move i would generally Grab the slayers rocket launcher and end my UN Run Early

[warm ibex]

half the time their first parry projectile either completely misses them or doesn't even return to them correctly, one slip up on a moving tank would instantly end a UN run

[harsh egret]

i played last month and it felt a bit better but maybe i was just lucky, but i do remember it being insanely inconsistent for a while

[frail bloom]

I wonder if they'll make the arenas bigger in the next game

They keep increasing enemy count and arena size

[crude sparrow]

in 10 years we'll get a doom open world game

but the combat will literally just be mighty doom

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/prude-losers-policeman-screaming-yelling-to-the-sky-gif-7234044545233130660

[wintry forge]

Did somebody mention the peak that was Mighty Doom?

[harsh egret]

Honestly I would love a doom roguelike game

Not a mainline game obv

[green estuary]

me when a hell tank predicts my movement behind a wall and instantly puts me at death protection

[harsh egret]

But even like a mobile game

[crude sparrow]

mighty doom needs to come back 🙏

[wintry forge]

Doom II rpg first ong

[harsh egret]

I was addicted to it for like a week, sad that its gone

[wintry forge]

I dream of that game’s rerelease

[frail bloom]

I don't

Was that game actually fun tho seriously

[crude sparrow]

yes

[foggy fable]

Yes

[frail bloom]

I think I saw 5 seconds of gameplay and never heard abt it ever again

Describe the gameplay

I won't trash on it as much since it was a mobile game

[harsh egret]

Have u played archero

[frail bloom]

You know the answer

[foggy fable]

I loved archero

[harsh egret]

It was basically that but doom

While it was obviously a clone more or less, it was still fun

[foggy fable]

U dont stop moving and shoot. You get upgrades as you clear arenas and there are multiple bosses. You clear worlds and can keep going and upgrade stuff

[harsh egret]

Go play archero for like 10 mins and u will get the idea xd

[frail bloom]

Ok I'll look at a vid or smt

[frail bloom]

Ah but there's no end?

[harsh egret]

There is

[frail bloom]

So there's multiple levels

And each level is a marathon

[harsh egret]

Its like a sequence of arenas

[warm ibex]

Mighty Doom legitimately had great potential, especially if they were to swap over to a TDA theme, but every new update was essentially a massive mound of missed opportunities

[wintry forge]

The cartoon Samur was gold

[foggy fable]

Not to mention content was super sparse

[warm ibex]

that too

[harsh egret]

Yh I finished the game then didn't bother anymore

[foggy fable]

Did they ever add a horde mode?

[harsh egret]

But it was great while it lasted

[foggy fable]

Tomb raiders archero clone launched with a horde mode that was fun

[warm ibex]

they added a limited time mode that was essentially a horde mode with a time limit

that eventually went away as the season changed

[harsh egret]

Limited time mode smh

[foggy fable]

Meh

[warm ibex]

I still can't remember who brought this to my attention initially, but if you think about it, Mighty Doom wasn't too far off from being top down TDA

completely vertical gameplay, open maps (depending on the level, I guess)

the heavy cannon even had the ricochet upgrade that the shredder has

[frail bloom]

Ok I saw some gameplay

But it looked like you could stop at any time you want

[warm ibex]

of doom II rpg or mighty doom?

[frail bloom]

Mighty doom, bob told me you don't stop moving

But it looked like a doom brawl stars

[harsh egret]

I mean after u defeat the arena u can do whatever u want until u go to the next

[frail bloom]

But he was fighting a baron

I dunno

[warm ibex]

that's just a bossfight

[frail bloom]

So you can move during those then

[warm ibex]

you can move during all of it

[frail bloom]

Sorry I meant you can stop

Like stop moving

[warm ibex]

you can stop during all of it

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-brain-monkey-gif-11098413

Ok Ig I read bob's description wrong

I was assuming you kept running and killed as many demons while your slayer moves forward

[warm ibex]

nah, you started at the bottom of a vertical arena and moved upwards at your own pace. an exit would spawn once all demons had been eliminated https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892238793174818848/1458645024081182864/b70a8f0644ea4e7a40a83e09cb9f8e56.png?ex=6960648a&is=695f130a&hm=ea1781c591705b0121a536e218edf8be6a669621177f7bd6a139058034bc532a

[frail bloom]

Ah ok

Doom zooba

Doom brawl stars

If anyone played zooba y'know what I mean

[obsidian shard]

You're gonna make me cry

[wintry forge]

Wasn’t the game energy based tho? Like, only a few plays a day

[obsidian shard]

My only issue was the pay to play

[wintry forge]

Yeah, hate that concept

[obsidian shard]

But it's a mobile game

[wintry forge]

Still

[obsidian shard]

Even then, I miss peak mobile gaming

[wintry forge]

Peak mobile gaming was in the early days of ios

[obsidian shard]

Let me cope

[warm ibex]

I could go on for ages about mighty doom's incredibly indecisive monetization methods

I'd make a long ass video on it, but the game is gone so there's no point

[wintry forge]

Wasn’t there some fnaf crossover? Or am I remembering that wrong

[warm ibex]

that was an april fools video I did lmao

[wintry forge]

BRO I knew I remembered you mentioning that, I had no idea that was a joke 😂😂

Shit I was hoping I was remembering wrong

Incidentally, that game did have some fun updates

[glad hinge]

Just saw this...so the mod loader won't work on gamepass because the executable is different. I'm not sure about the resource extractor. Depends on how encrypted the resource archives are. Let me know how it goes for you if you try it.

However, there may be an alternative if gamepass is a no-go. Anyone who owns the game on xbox, should also be able to link their xbox and blizzard accounts to install the game through battle net. It's possible the Battle net version of the game is more in-line with Steam's. If you want to try this, let me know. So far there's been nobody who has volunteered to try this

[fleet spruce]

Mighty Doom is cool and all but i had literally no reason to play it since I could play any game on the go already in 2021

[obsidian shard]

I own it on Xbox but it aint coming up on my Xbox PC app

[warm ibex]

true, but I doubt you were bringing your gaming handheld to the shitter with you lol

[empty furnace]

hot take: the kreed maykr is the best boss in the game

[harsh egret]

cant say i agree but he is a pretty cool boss

i'd rate that boss a 7,5/10

[thin hound]

The best thing about Mighty Doom was the music, otherwise it was just a neat little non canon mobile game for fun

[green estuary]

enhanced ahzrak is better in every way imo

he's an actual challenge, he has a much more varied moveset, his boss music is better, literally everything

[harsh egret]

Yh

[green estuary]

I would fw kreed more if he wasn't such a pushover

even through my nerves, I still managed to do that whole fight damageless on my 300% min parry UN run

that shit is way too easy

[fleet spruce]

Fair , i would rather just stroll thru youtube looking for a video to shatter my understanding of Doom

[elder raven]

but the end of divine retribution is beautiful

[green estuary]

wither and writhe is also a banger
but theomachy, blood spill, and ending with from the ashes is just chef's kiss

[obsidian shard]

Hex and Flame PLUS Apotheosis

Boss music is ON POINT

[wintry forge]

Apotheosis = peak boss music

[green estuary]

I just can't see the doom franchise topping enhanced ahzrak in the boss fight department

[wintry forge]

I think Mastermind is the only boss theme to rival it as the best

Well, that and Samur’s boss music

[warm ibex]

every time someone says something like this, id software magically manifests a better version

[green estuary]

well I would love to be proven wrong

[warm ibex]

can't ever top their current best game? tops it with the next one. won't ever make a better boss fight? blows it out of the water four years later

I remember people saying that they had no clue how id software could improve on 2016 lol

[green estuary]

well I don't think any of eternal's boss fights are better than any of 2016's boss fights, change my mind

even though I think the game as a whole is a clear improvement

[warm ibex]

I think gladiator is pretty good

[wintry forge]

“The greatest boss fight we’ve ever made”

[warm ibex]

but otherwise I'd have to agree

[wintry forge]

I think Gladiator is up there with 2016’s skill

[green estuary]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1406957710334890108/1426042080613892178/lv_0_202510092259161.gif

[wintry forge]

In terms of peak bosses

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-slayer-doom-goku-meme-prowler-gif-4719372935125368569

[green estuary]

everything about the gladiator fight is peak except for the actual boss

[obsidian shard]

Top 5 Fav boss tracks

[wintry forge]

Back when that was like one of the only tracks for the game to listen to for almost a year

[green estuary]

gladiator the only boss to just ignore a ballista headshot after a green eye flash just because he feels like it

"fuck you, that's how"

[warm ibex]

good for him, I'm proud of his generational accomplishment

[green estuary]

gladiator walked so the possessed marauder could also walk, just slightly faster

[warm ibex]

gladiator walked so the possessed marauder could stand still

[obsidian shard]

so 2 screecher Marauders could exist

[fleet spruce]

Blood Spill

[green estuary]

speaking of, I highly recommend you guys watch zero master's holt slayer gate ai_haste 2 video

shit is absolutely hilarious

I don't think there's anything funnier in all of doom than a coked out marauder running in place against a wall collision

https://youtu.be/rgpGgdpsAxA?t=246

[fleet spruce]

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxo9_J6lrDygAqrsy_Szv14Qw2XWVRxcb7?si=85HwvagJ1cr_VWfq

[cold patio]

theomachy always goes hard, my favorite ost from the entire doom the dark ages album

[mystic barn]

Apotheosis WITH the missing riff elevates it to the next level

[mystic barn]

1. Trial of Maligog (it counts)
2. Cyberdemon
3. Blood Spill
4. Theomachy
5. Samur Maykr’s boss theme

[wintry forge]

https://youtu.be/ToBD2k3MHWE?si=FIdpXiTX3J8TALmH
0:21 is 🔥 🔥 🔥

[fleet spruce]

wish Trial of Maligog had proper sound mixing in the game

[thin hound]

Yeah Trial of Maligog is probably my favorite boss theme too, although From the Ashes is also great

[wintry forge]

It’s a shame David Levy never released more of it on his channel

[thin hound]

It is very quiet, and then the boss itself makes extremely loud sounds

[mystic barn]

I get that From the Ashes plays during Phase 3 of Enhanced Ahzrak, but I never heard it as a boss theme, rather the main theme. If we are including it though, everything bumps down one because From the Ashes is 🔛🔝

[thin hound]

It’s both the boss music and title card music

[wintry forge]

From the Ashes is peak. Because it’s the whole “Slayer Theme” it fits so perfect with the last phase. Seeing the Slayer get back up and channel his rage and blasting that track was peak game design

[obsidian shard]

1. From the Ashes
2. Apotheosis
   3.Theomachy
3. Gladiator
4. Spider Mastermind

[fleet spruce]

yeah, i remember when i played TAG1 back when i had switch i had to turn everything else down aside from the music

[thin hound]

Actually Divine Retribution is probably my third favorite

And pretty much every track after Chapter 3 is a boss track in TDA, because of champions and morale leaders

[mystic barn]

Wither & Writhe when it hits that Phantoms-esque riff

[thin hound]

So Unholy Siege, final answer

[wintry forge]

Actually guys, you’re forgetting the BEST boss track

[thin hound]

Don’t say Khan Maykr

[wintry forge]

Technically What Lies Below, it’s the Old One’s boss track

[green estuary]

true that

[wintry forge]

[thin hound]

They’re mostly all pretty good, I’ve even grown fond of the three from the first game after a while

[ebon lynx]

love Pursuit of Demons bc it's the Hugo reads your comments theme

[wintry forge]

“Alright guys, another unboxing for ya!”

[mystic barn]

What bugs me is that The Old One’s boss theme seemed to have originally been Colossus Unleashed, as the cutscene music preceding the fight builds to a crescendo for that track. It switches then to a Cosmic Realm track and ruins my entire week

[wintry forge]

“What’s the deal with glory kills?”

[thin hound]

I think What Lies Below fits the fight really well

[obsidian shard]

[obsidian shard]

"DOOM: The WOKE AGES"

[fleet spruce]

You could say they have become finishing moves

[wintry forge]

I think it fits, it’s just the heavy parts. I always thought it worked great for the Old One since it played on the mission where we get ingested

[obsidian shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1274237827592228865/1449649491958566942/aewjyu.gif

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-gif-18906611

[wintry forge]

So what’s the worst boss track?

[thin hound]

Khan Maykr probably

[wintry forge]

Hint: it’s divine retribution

[warm ibex]

that's funny as hell 😭

[thin hound]

No Divine Retribution is great, I just wish it would play the fast part like ever

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-cat-is-this-bait-cat-is-this-ragebait-gif-10902073105296387701

[fleet spruce]

It sounds heavy and foreboding, pretty fitting for the Abyssal Forest I'd say

[mystic barn]

It’s probably SHTO36U3 to be fair

Just painfully simple

[obsidian shard]

Heavy, Foreboding, Sinister... I really enjoyed mixing that one

[thin hound]

The second phase music for the Hell Guards isn’t bad

[wintry forge]

His fault for using an early track

It was like 2015, before the soundtrack was fully realized

[wintry forge]

https://tenor.com/view/yuimetal-gif-2236335851178412850

[mystic barn]

Absolutely. I like the second phase too, but it can’t compare to any other boss track

[pliant garnet]

hi/ привіт

[fleet spruce]

That and how Hellspawn Rift ramps up as you progress in the From Beyond are sooooooo good

[thin hound]

It’s definitely one of the lower ones, but I think it’s heavier than Khan Maykr or even Final Sin

[obsidian shard]

Mixing that one rn, and my god those Bass and Percussion sections are a god send

[wintry forge]

Hot take (ish): I really disliked Hellspawn Rift on first playthru. Grew to love it tho

[obsidian shard]

tbf most First Playthrought had ASS Mixing

[thin hound]

Can it really be a hot take if you change your mind?

[mystic barn]

Icon of Sin at least has the brass and chants going for it. Khan Maykr is a less interesting rehash of the Urdak combat theme/VEGA Core. Strangely enough, I really like Chad Mossholder’s remix

[wintry forge]

Hence the “ish” lmao

[obsidian shard]

Also Hellspawn Rift has that Deep "Growl" sound the Guitars make and it tickles me in my ears nicely

[mystic barn]

Nah, I was there too. I didn’t hate it, per se, but the way the stems played in game bugged me

[wintry forge]

I like the second phase for Icon of sin, where it starts with the heavy Opening to Hell segment

[thin hound]

I just realized that the Ahzrak and Witch boss fight is reminiscent of the Hell Guards and I love it

[wintry forge]

I’ll have to check that out, I haven’t noticed

[thin hound]

Really makes things more engaging when you fight two bosses at once

And I love chaotic boss fights

[mystic barn]

It is a bit, especially with one throwing up a shield every now and then

[wintry forge]

Oh you’re referring to the fight itself, gotcha lol. Thought you meant the ost

[thin hound]

Hell Guards OST is cool because it’s really chaotic and fits the fight well

[mystic barn]

Nah, nothing similar about Between Hex & Flame and SHTO36U3 musically speaking

[thin hound]

Yeah I agree with that

I was talking about gameplay

[wintry forge]

Now that I think about it, the energy shields on Ahzrak and the Witch kinda reminded me of the Hellguards when they’d have their shields up in the first phase

[obsidian shard]

I find it funny how thanks to you, TDA's OST page is gonna look like the most deep Masterfully crafted OST EVER

[mystic barn]

Not if Xymph has anything to say about it lol

[obsidian shard]

Agaddon's Reminded me similarly of that

[thin hound]

They’re kind of the inverse of each other because with Hell Guards the first phase is one boss and the second is two, but with A&W the second phase has one boss

[fleet spruce]

the parasitic worms have green colored energy...

[obsidian shard]

haha ya lol

[fleet spruce]

That's interesting, i wonder if the parallels were intentional

[obsidian shard]

Hell Surge Energy!

[thin hound]

Maybe from a design standpoint

Yeah when do we get the tiny demon worms as enemies, maybe in TDA DLC?

[mystic barn]

Not sure if you saw his most recent comment on the discussion page, but I don’t understand the issues with the second dot point. The notes as they were became redundant with the Track Analysis tab, so I just renamed Levels to Notes. It communicates the same information as before

[fleet spruce]

Damn gotta parry the hell guards

[warm ibex]

somewhat unrelated to the conversation at hand, but I do like that there's a sort of in-universe explanation for the green projectiles

they're hell surge projectiles and not just random green colored fireballs

[green estuary]

is there an in universe explanation for me changing the parryable color to hot pink

[warm ibex]

you're canonically a barbie girl

[obsidian shard]

ehhh a Fellow Hot Pink user!

[thin hound]

It’s like Godzilla’s pink energy

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doom-guy-doom-the-dark-ages-cute-gif-12753411322836635057

average katsu and jaycool experience

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/scientist-myself-youknow-science-gif-18288578

[obsidian shard]

I have lol... It may have to be its own page.

[green estuary]

"I'm something of a barbie girl myself"

[warm ibex]

lmao

[mystic barn]

I’m very okay with that

[wintry forge]

It’s because Argent Energy turns green in high amounts. Bfg codex explains it for the most part. The parasites are said to contain a tremendous amount of Argent energy, which is why they’re used as the vessels to power the Hellgaurds

[obsidian shard]

Use to be red, but you cant see shit for the Parryable's, so I went Purple and well Cosmic Baron
so I went Blue, and low and behold the Revenant Existed!

[fleet spruce]

they might as well be living argent batteries i see

[wintry forge]

Pretty much. Funny af considering they’re so weak and fragile

[thin hound]

What if there was a gun that sucked the soul out of a demon and fired back the energy?

[wintry forge]

Grabber 2.0

[fleet spruce]

Now that I think about it, wasn't there 2016 mp maps that suggested UAC trying to breed them , which looks like it went horribly wrong as usual

[wintry forge]

Yeah, it’s interesting because it connects directly to 2016’s codex. It explains that the parasites couldn’t survive passing through dimensions, from Hell to Mars. So it’s interesting that they were always incubated or something in the labs

Also shows the parasites were from that Boneyard map. They were seen in their eggs, very reminiscent of facehuggers lmao

[fleet spruce]

they're just demonic flavoured Rakshi from Bionicle

[stone pasture]

If you go by the power of bfc and bfg, it's a focused blast

That's what I think

[crude sparrow]

I like to change between teal, yellow and purple to contrast the 3 different ripatorium maps color palettes

I wish you could also change the colors of individual projectiles because certain colors aren't that viable due to some demon's projectiles sharing the same color

Like I'd love to use plain blue but then I can't really tell which of the revenant's skulls I can parry

[fleet spruce]

just make em invisible

[warm ibex]

wait I completely forgot about that

I might make a short about this lol

[alpine pilot]

Where doom

[split gate]

They cookin with this DLC if it takes this long lol

[fleet spruce]

still in the oven...

[topaz oasis]

Its gonna be delicious

[harsh egret]

[foggy fable]

This is pretty average dlc development time when you don’t consider live service rot

[split gate]

That is true, I was thinking about Ancient Gods Part 1 being released earlier than this DLC during Eternal’s period

[foggy fable]

That was during a very limited forced time schedule since they only gave themselves 6 months per dlc. And each had only 3 levels

I can imagine they crunched pretty hard to meet the deadline and ended up with awesome levels

But that’s also def why TDA has no timeline for its dlc

[fading bone]

yeah definitely would rather them take their time and make sure its actually good this time

as much as i want it so badly id rather wait more

[harsh heron]

(r.e. the 2016-TDA) Ultra-Nightmare is just Nightmare with permadeath right?

I maybe got the name of the difficulties wrong, but yeah, only difference between hardest and second hardest difficulty is permadeath yeah?

[crude sparrow]

yeah

though the extra lives turn into full health and armor recharges instead

[fading bone]

just blasted enhanced asscrack with only 1 death on my 120% pandemonium run

best performance ive had vs him yet

[merry sapphire]

yall think the dlc gon drop before 2026

[fading bone]

yeah we heard your joke the last time you did it

[supple oracle]

they been working in The anicent god part 1 before the game release they have alot of time to work on it, that why it turn be so good, unfortunately not same case for TAG part 2

For Dark ages DLC, I think they will release it in may

[fading bone]

i died to a cyberdemon spike

end me

[warm ibex]

sounds like the cyberdemon already has

[merry sapphire]

it gets funnier everytime i say it

[fading bone]

https://tenor.com/view/you-sure-about-that-i-think-you-should-leave-with-tim-robinson-are-you-absolutely-certain-are-you-positive-can-you-verify-that-gif-10549268703103241949

[harsh egret]

Seems like no tda dlc at the dev direct

however they've never had this little amount of games on a dev direct
its only 3 announced, so who knows...

[green estuary]

There’s usually a surprise reveal also

Although odds are it’s probably not the dlc

[harsh egret]

could randomly be halo, or gears

there is a suspiciously empty area on the bottom left
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/491020118780805140/1458852579122614503/G-JTalqXkAAoqlT.png?ex=696125d7&is=695fd457&hm=4944a3f27f03b7062f0257d5a3e06337f062ffaf82f961c8ade10d477fa993c6&

[tranquil badge]

Imagine they just pull a TAG2 and just randomly drop it

[fading bone]

allllright first time completing pandemonium 100% on 120% speed

[weak lily]

Im ava 25 from italy,dm me for a game partner

[merry sapphire]

1 message hidden from likely spammer

[arctic pagoda]

Peat moss

[native fog]

1 message hidden from likely spammer

[ionic edge]

Bro what did you do to get flagged as a spammer🫩

[ionic edge]

Same with u😔

[slender night]

They're not spammers they're just making fun of the fact that somebody above is ACTUALLY flagged as a spammer 😭

[ionic edge]

Damn

[ionic edge]

That’s a L on who did

[native fog]

lol

[grim cloud]

xbox direct 22nd ... DLC info coming you think?