The reason why I actually bought it was because I saw one of my friends playing Callisto protocol and went "this is so bad I'd rather just try dead space myself" 
#the-dark-ages
crude sparrow
obsidian shard
The reason why I actually bought it was because I saw one of my friends playing ...
Finishing Move made that OST
foggy jasper
Lol I got Callisto on epic for free, Dead Space Remake is my favorite remake and an absolute masterpiece in my opinion
crude sparrow
Lol I got Callisto on epic for free, Dead Space Remake is my favorite remake and...
Would you say it's better than the original or nah
If I like it I might go back and try the original as well someday
green estuary
dude I'm actually trying to convince myself to play one of the games I just bought on sale, but I also listened to SGN earlier today and eternal is calling me 😭
crude sparrow
Along with the sequels
obsidian shard
No fucking way
They did Grounded 2, Grounded 1 Year 2 (part 2) A lot of Borderland 3 and 4 and they did the Callisto Protocol, and then they also did the Halo Anniversary OST alongside some others
foggy jasper
Would you say it's better than the original or nah
Actually.... Um.... The remake was the first one I ever played
obsidian shard
They've got one hell of a OST list
harsh egret
dude I'm actually trying to convince myself to play one of the games I just boug...
i mean dont force it, best to just play what u feel like
(as for myself, my friends got me addicted to league again so the games ive been buying are not getting played any time soon 💀 )
obsidian shard
They did Grounded 2, Grounded 1 Year 2 (part 2) A lot of Borderland 3 and 4 and ...
They made an Instrument for the Callisto Protocol that they also used in TDA
green estuary
(as for myself, my friends got me addicted to league again so the games ive been...
of all the games, why LOL
harsh egret
idk, its fun
crude sparrow
So we're lying now
harsh egret
in a months time theres a chance i wont say its fun but yeah
when u 4-5 stack it can be pretty funny
obsidian shard
Damn, let the man enjoy his Moba in peace
harsh egret
ok back to tda
foggy fable
Everyone has different tastes and that’s why games come in so many flavors
harsh egret
yeye
green estuary
idk, its fun
harsh egret
foggy jasper
Back to Battlefield 6
crude sparrow
when u 4-5 stack it can be pretty funny
That is actually kinda fair, pretty much the only reason I kinda got into overwatch a couple months back
I'd rather eat glass than play that alone
harsh egret
that game is so fun but then after like 2 weeks i hate it for the next 2 years
but yh obv not solo q
obsidian shard
I'd rather eat glass than play that alone
Ya most online games tend to do that
Helldivers II
Marvel Rivals
In particular
crude sparrow
that game is so fun but then after like 2 weeks i hate it for the next 2 years
Especially as a tank player 😭
harsh egret
im a pharah gamer myself
crude sparrow
im a pharah gamer myself
Reinhardt is my goat
obsidian shard
oh man that reminded me of the soldier 67 emote they added recently...
Whut...
harsh egret
mhm...
crude sparrow
I main Soldier and Medic
Different game but literally same 💀
green estuary
crude sparrow
Quick we gotta come up with how 67 is related to tda so we can say we're still on topic
green estuary
crude sparrow
Idk man the mods will smite us if we don't 😭
warm ibex
overwatch used to be my shit, I have like 1.6k hours. more than 2016, eternal and tda combined. ow2 really pissed in my cheerios
but yeah back on topic
crude sparrow
I have 666 hours on eternal
warm ibex
I have 800 on eternal, unmodded 💀
like 160 on TDA right now
but tda also isn't even a year old tbf. and I'm playing it like once a month atp
crude sparrow
Then I made an alt account and bought it again there so I could play more without ruining the magic number 💀
green estuary
I have 800 on eternal, unmodded 💀
damn
harsh egret
i got like 160 on tda as well
warm ibex
bro is so behind
harsh egret
on eternal total i got maybe 300 but i had to migrate my bethesda account to my main steam account so it reset
plus i didnt always uhh.. have it on steam...
warm ibex
I wish I had 300 hours on eternal, I'd probably like it a lot more
and hope I never cross 300 with tda
playing single player games a shit ton doesn't do a lot for me
crude sparrow
and hope I never cross 300 with tda
Master campaign: 
green estuary
800 unmodded hours in eternal is absolutely wild tbh
at least in TDA, you've got endless variety with the ripatorium, but eternal doesn't have any of that
crude sparrow
playing single player games a shit ton doesn't do a lot for me
If the combat is fun I don't see a reason why not
green estuary
me when 95% of my library is made up of single player games
warm ibex
If the combat is fun I don't see a reason why not
it gets unfun when you milk every ounce of joy out of it
800 hours of the same shit over and over again. eternal is replayable but it's not that replayable
at least not imo. we'll see about tda
since I'm sure they still have a decent amount of content to add
crude sparrow
That endless arena mod was the holy grail for me
warm ibex
I'll have to play through all the modded stuff once I get back into eternal
crude sparrow
Tbf I don't think I've played eternal once since tda came out
fervent maple
I'll have to play through all the modded stuff once I get back into eternal
I made a 2016-style difficulty mod for Eternal a bit ago and it's been a lot of fun. It's likely impossible/highly unlikely, but I would love it if they retrofitted TDA's sliders to 2016 and Eternal (and/or added controller remapping while they're at it; this still frustrates me).
green estuary
sliders in 2016/eternal would be beyond peak
crude sparrow
Eternal on 150% speed 🥀
foggy jasper
versed stone
Is there a console command to cap the framerate?
I was thinking I could cap the framerate to 60 and use LSFG just to see if it would look blurry at all.
empty furnace
will the dlc add new steam achievements (therefore locking the platinum behind a paywall)
empty furnace
Tbf I don't think I've played eternal once since tda came out
i haven’t played it in months
i want to 100% it but the last 4 achievements are locked behind fucking battlemode
green estuary
will the dlc add new steam achievements (therefore locking the platinum behind a...
definitely
well, not definitely, but 99.9 percent chance
obsidian shard
will the dlc add new steam achievements (therefore locking the platinum behind a...
The platinum is already locked behind a paywall
(you have to buy the game)
empty furnace
hopefully it will be only one dlc
eager thistle
Does anyone here actually hotswap melee options? It's so hard when it resets melee charges
thin hound
Yeah
obsidian shard
hopefully it will be only one dlc
It's been confirmed it's only ONE DLC
rose cargo
I got 4 missions into UN today
put the damage back at default for the duration of the run, if i die i’ll tone it back down to 150%
fleet spruce
Can confirm, although nowadays i only feel that while playing on low performance preset (9-10w)
wide siren
It's been confirmed it's only ONE DLC
interesting
merry sapphire
800 hours of the same shit over and over again. eternal is replayable but it's n...
i got like 900 hours on eternal i love that game
warm ibex
that's awesome shivero
obsidian shard
DAMN
wide siren
i’m not even a real gamer i guess
i’ve got 350 hours in eternal, it’s my most played game
obsidian shard
i’ve got 350 hours in eternal, it’s my most played game
Thats true gamer
I've only got around 600
wide siren
i have about 70 hours in tda, but it’s probably the most i’ve played any of the new dooms before any dlc drops. ancient gods 1 made me addicted to eternal
merry sapphire
that's awesome shivero
Thank You
fleet spruce
I think i got like 150 hrs in Eternal
meager vortex
guys i have a doom the dark ages art book!
my feeling is good
it is amazing artbook!
rose cargo
guys i have a doom the dark ages art book!
I WANT one so bad
dark ages has my favorite prob aesthetic in doom
medieval doom guy is just too good
void hornet
how do I know I'm using DLSS 4 instead of a lower version? cause the game menu doesn't tell
solid nacelle
Does anyone here actually hotswap melee options? It's so hard when it resets mel...
Tbh I barely do it because of that. I wish they'd make it so charges carry over between swaps, but not like eternal where each one has its own cool down cause that might be a little too busted
ebon lynx
Does anyone here actually hotswap melee options? It's so hard when it resets mel...
kaibz mod has a setting for that
eager thistle
I just dont really get why its a thing
Switching between frag grenade and ice bomb doesnt reset the cooldown in eternal
Like I guess its kinda op, but so is just having the dreadmace
BUT ngl it is fun to time melee hot swaps with parries so that you have charges right away
So i guess maybe i do get why its a thing lol
ebon lynx
i also have each melee bound to its own key (via kaibz) which feels better to me than cycling thru weapons
fleet spruce
Switching between frag grenade and ice bomb doesnt reset the cooldown in eternal
cause their purpose is different, equipment is just that - it doesn't make you directly hit a target but instead just fires while you're doing stuff.
grave dock
I WANT one so bad
I believe you can still get them on amazon
rose cargo
I believe you can still get them on amazon
i can’t even use amazon :/
crude sparrow
Bethesda gear store still has it I'm pretty sure
rose cargo
yeah i asked my mom to get me one for my birthday i hope I don’t have to buy it myself but if I do i will
empty furnace
800 *unmodded* hours in eternal is absolutely wild tbh
i got 200 hours
my most played game is terraria with a grand total of 800 hours
then theres elden ring with 384
heady mica
then theres elden ring with 384
im so ass at elden ring cuz its my first souls game
but i feel pretty accomplished after beating the bloodhound knight without armor and using only club
rose cargo
im so ass at elden ring cuz its my first souls game
i loathe souls games
souls games are the equivalent to cod in terms of popularity and borderline annoying fans 🙏🏽😭
heady mica
i loathe souls games
i think theyre really cool and love watching people play them, but actually playing them has to be the single most unfun experience i've ever had
but great with enough alcohol tbh
rose cargo
it is not fun in the slightest and it’s really a pain in the ass that people just make low effort souls slop nowadays
heady mica
Witchfire is a good game that has souls mechanics but it's an FPS
rose cargo
i kid you not the only gothic imagery games i know of are dark souls games
heady mica
Doom with witches and guns and shit
rose cargo
and i hate just about every dark souls games and soulsborne games
heady mica
and i hate just about every dark souls games and soulsborne games
hate seeing them in general or just hate the annoying fanbase they have
rose cargo
both
fanbase doesn’t know that everyone doesn’t want to play parry souls slop every day of the week, and the games are oversaturated as hell now cause we get a new souls slop every single year atp
and it’s a blueprint games LOVE to bite
heady mica
i play elden ring like once a month just cuz i get an itch and i cannot grasp the concept to save my LIFE
so i just go back to the dark ages and drop 5 more hours into that
rose cargo
remember the hack and slash genre? me neither, it’s been carried by devil may cry and ninja gaiden since souls got popular in 2020 with Elden Ring
heady mica
ive been getting into singleplayer games a lot more lately cuz of DTDA and my biggest flex is 100%'ing that and the remake of Dead Space
rose cargo
might i add, Elden Ring is the worst game i have ever single-handedly attempted to play ever in my gaming life
heady mica
I just miss when games came out and they were peak
heady mica
You will play slop and you will not be happy
rose cargo
ive been getting into singleplayer games a lot more lately cuz of DTDA and my bi...
TDA is prob the best shooter i have ever played in a long time
so much that I am like 4 chapters into a Ultra Nightmare run
difficulty modifiers was the best decision ever made
heady mica
so much that I am like 4 chapters into a Ultra Nightmare run
Oooughe good luck, I already beat UN and now I just play on 150% speed Nightmare
eager thistle
Ill be honest I never have enjoyed 150 percent speed
I always play at 110 or 130 at maximum
But I usually stick to 110
Especially that all npc dialogue is sped up too like that annoys me
crude sparrow
Hell yeah 130 speed is peak
I've been experimenting with 140% recently and so far I kinda like it but I already see myself getting absolutely fucked when I attempt a more difficult fight lol
I love the faster movement speed but then I quickly get a harsh reality check when I turn around and see a baron sprinting at me at 400mp/h
eager thistle
random but i wonder what the barons run speed is clocked at
now that you mention that
like genuinely in dark ages its gotta be 50 mph when they are charging right at you with those guillotine hands
The cosmic baron might be the only demon in modern doom you cannot outrun
crude sparrow
The cosmic baron might be the only demon in modern doom you cannot outrun
They might be running faster than you but they still stop when attacking so effectively if you just run they shouldn't be able to hit you (with melee)
fading bone
crude sparrow
Also don't the pinkies run slightly faster than you?
I'm tda I mean cuz in 2016 and eternal they definitely do xD
eager thistle
yeah they definitely in 2016 and eternal but you can hop around them
crude sparrow
Dodging them is one thing but if we were to just run in a straight line they'd definitely catch up
eager thistle
I think about the cosmic baron like joe rogan thinks about bears
I had an encounter with a cosmic baron once
A buddy if mine is an expert on them
I remember it so clearly 😳
crude sparrow
I don't think I get it 😭
rose cargo
random but i wonder what the barons run speed is clocked at
barons are the hardest enemies to fight in TDA
fading bone
i give that award to buffed whiplash
rose cargo
barons corner me all the time
and with weapon swapping in TDA being much slower on controller it’s harder to efficiently kill, buffed whiplash i’m ngl is not hard to efficiently take out
fading bone
buffed whiplash never fucking dies and one hit from their cross projectile just destroys your shield
very annoying to deal with
eager thistle
And they got like an absurd amount of health for their size
Thats why I like to stun them with the shield, and spam grenades on them, the cluster bombs can actually destroy
fading bone
barons are just like cyber demons to me
just parry until you get the faulter and then melee spam and done
but whiplashes just slithering all over the place dodging my shield stuns and shit with infinite health and then getting unlucky with one super fast cross projectile and youre cooked
fading bone
yeah its crazy
eager thistle
And then use the cross projectile as cover
crude sparrow
The difference is barons are actually fun to fight unlike whiplashes
eager thistle
Yeah.
crude sparrow
Also dreadmace once again just decimates
eager thistle
Whiplashes need to be able to falter during animations
I never use the dreadmace its too good
Except in extremely hard ripatorium challenges
crude sparrow
I exclusively use it against super heavies only, excluding the cyber demon
And sometimes aggadon hunters
eager thistle
When I play in the campaign I ban dreadmace, chainshot and ravager
crude sparrow
What did the chainshot do to you 😭
eager thistle
And I dont upgrade the ssg or impaler at all
crude sparrow
It's not even that good
eager thistle
Its too good for destroying armor
crude sparrow
Yeah and that's about it lmao
eager thistle
Yeah but like that can go a long way
fading bone
the explosion in the final upgrade is pretty good
crude sparrow
It's alright but other weapons can easily out-dps it
eager thistle
I ban the chainshot and I dont upgrade the super shotgun so that my only good option against armored heavies is to hotswap to the flail
crude sparrow
I just switch weapons a lot because eternal conditioned me
eager thistle
One of the reasons dark ages has been my favorite modern doom since launch is because you have to actually coordinate when you swap weapons
Because swapping at the wrong time can get you killed
crude sparrow
If you try to swap while getting attacked, sure but most of the time you're fine
Sneak in a quick swap during faltering animations and you're good
foggy jasper
When I play in the campaign I ban dreadmace, chainshot and ravager
I use all of these excessively
eager thistle
Bro the ravager is so braindead
crude sparrow
Honestly I feel like the ravager is just bad idk why 😭
foggy jasper
That's the one that fires the skulls in a spread right
fading bone
yeah i dont think the ravager is that great
eager thistle
No it concentrates them
crude sparrow
Accelerator on top 🔥
eager thistle
And it is literally infinite ammo
foggy jasper
No it concentrates them
Oh yeah that one's awful, I mainly use the spread one
crude sparrow
That one's lowkey even worse 😭 😭 😭
foggy jasper
Small fry enemies get decimated by that one
foggy jasper
Still my favorite gun is probably either the Super Shotgun or the Chainshot
eager thistle
I wont shame my boy the pulverizer but I will shame the ravager
crude sparrow
do NOT shame the skull crusher
It looks sick as fuck that's about all the praise I can give it 💀
fading bone
bro that shit fully upgraded absolutely RIPS
eager thistle
The speed boost is so applicable
fading bone
yeah the speed boost is also insane
foggy jasper
It looks sick as fuck that's about all the praise I can give it 💀
If you get close enough to large enemies you SHRED them
eager thistle
Instead of just throwing your shield to kill a horde of fodder, use the pulverizer and run ridiculously fast
foggy jasper
yeah the speed boost is also insane
You can melt imps, pinkies and Arachnotrons with it
fading bone
doing that one secret encounter in the final cosmic realm mission where youre in the hallway vs a million hellknights
its soooo much easier with fully upgraded skull crusher
crude sparrow
If you get close enough to large enemies you SHRED them
There's like there's like 29 reasons why that isn't a good idea
eager thistle
I always use the cycler and falter spam in that
eager thistle
doing that one secret encounter in the final cosmic realm mission where youre in...
I love that room, it feels like it was taken straight out of plutonia
fading bone
thats also chill
foggy jasper
There's like there's like 29 reasons why that isn't a good idea <:kekw:130123751...
I don't care
fading bone
i like jumping around with the full speed and just melt them
foggy jasper
Rip and tear
fading bone
its also good vs pinkies since when they turn sideways theyre so fat theyre just getting the entire spread
foggy jasper
There's like there's like 29 reasons why that isn't a good idea <:kekw:130123751...
(Also you can wreck armor with it, then quick swap to the SSG and finish them off)
crude sparrow
Chat do we realize that the ssg can just do the exact same thing but in a single shot xD
fading bone
yeah but thats boring
foggy jasper
I'm not wasting my precious shells on weaker enemies, those are for the Cyberdemon
crude sparrow
No because the ssg goes big boom and my neurons do the same
fading bone
i do use ssg for armored enemies tho
eager thistle
I actually didnt mind never using the ssg during the month with the bug
fading bone
just shield bash to get close and then ssg shield throw and laugh
crude sparrow
I'm not wasting my precious shells on weaker enemies, those are for the Cyberdem...
Cyber demons get the gauntlets 
eager thistle
mwahahah
crude sparrow
just shield bash to get close and then ssg shield throw and laugh
Real
Poor mancubus never stood a chance
foggy jasper
I think the only bad weapons are the Ravager and the Nail assault rifle, whatever it's called
fading bone
oh i farm armored mancs for rune procs
oh the shredder? honestly i think shredder richochet is actually pretty good
eager thistle
just shield bash to get close and then ssg shield throw and laugh
andd thats why I dont upgrade the ssg
fading bone
i see some speed runners use it and its actually quite strong
eager thistle
Its way too good against armor
fading bone
is the situation "theres 2 enemies close to each other" ?
because that happens a lot lol
eager thistle
Ricochet is good when you can find a moment to even use it 💀
REAL
I literally can remember the last time I used it
foggy jasper
I just use the impaler, and I'm more of an up close and personal type of player so I just soften enemies up with the impaler and kill them with SSG
crude sparrow
is the situation "theres 2 enemies close to each other" ?
My aim might just be bad lol I can't hit anything other than a mancubus with it
crude sparrow
Also everything else is just way too weak and they die before you can even get decent value with the ricochet
crude sparrow
combat shotgun is definitely worse than the shredder imo
WHAT
eager thistle
combat shotgun is definitely worse than the shredder imo
Disagree
fading bone
what the hell am i doing with the combat shotgun that any other gun isnt doing better
crude sparrow
Getting armor???
eager thistle
That versus a mancubus is armor food
fading bone
other than the armor drop which barely even drops that much armor
eager thistle
Yeah you gotta use it more
green estuary
Ricochet is by far the best crowd control weapon upgrade in the game
crude sparrow
Also it does decent damage like it's not as much as the ssg but it's alright
Fun fact, with the triple shot, each shell does less damage than the previous one
fading bone
i feel like with this game slowing down to try to refill on armor (which takes forever compared to eternal) is just inferior to simply killing everything way faster with all the other insane DPS options
green estuary
Correct
crude sparrow
It's still like a 20% buff in dps since you're firing faster but overall you could do more damage with the single shot
fading bone
get armor refills by killing the shield rows
eager thistle
Dark ages armor refilling seems to be like more integrated with the enemies your fighting
crude sparrow
Using the combat shotgun really doesn't feel like slowing down
fading bone
i think it does
eager thistle
Like early game your only source of armor is the shotgun and armored enemies
fading bone
because any other gun/melee will nuke anything in the time trying to shoot off a million cs shots to get armor would
yeah and theres tons of shield rows to stack up on armor
eager thistle
3 shots stagger a manc
fading bone
i never use the cs for armor
crude sparrow
Well it's pretty much only good for armor because the blast upgrade literally does nothing 💀
fading bone
case in point for why its worse than the shredder
rose cargo
combat shotgun is definitely worse than the shredder imo
combat shotgun is better but honestly i use them together
i use the shredder only to buff damage output
green estuary
The question is why would I use my valuable gold/rubies on CSG armor upgrades in the early game when I could just use ricochet to kill stuff 10x faster
rose cargo
that’s also why i think the cycler is better and the regular plasma rifle is bad kek
fading bone
or heatblast
crude sparrow
case in point for why its worse than the shredder
The shredder is situational, combat shotgun you can use anytime and farm armor with it
rose cargo
The shredder is situational, combat shotgun you can use anytime and farm armor w...
extremely situations
fading bone
that’s also why i think the cycler is better and the regular plasma rifle is bad...
omg the accelerator is literally the most broken game in earlyt game
eager thistle
Shredders gotta be the weakest gun in the game
crude sparrow
Only sacrificing a bit of dps
rose cargo
situational*
eager thistle
Its fun though
fading bone
heatblast is absolutely nuts
green estuary
The shredder is “situational” in that it’s applicable in 90% of situations lmao
fading bone
heatblast NUKES vagaries
rose cargo
max upgraded cycler just begs to differ plus i prefer cycler early game anyway
thin hound
The shredder absolutely destroys when it ricochets off the shield saw though
rose cargo
plasma gun just has, too much recoil for me to worry about
rose cargo
The shredder absolutely destroys when it ricochets off the shield saw though
i like the pincushion, never used the ricochet
crude sparrow
Cycler is good for crowd control and literally stunlocking enemies, accelerator beats it with raw damage though
fading bone
recoil doesnt matter when youre attacking giant demons right up close
the shots all hit anyway
green estuary
i like the pincushion, never used the ricochet
well there’s your problem
thin hound
Ricochet is overpowered, honestly probably should be damage-reduced
rose cargo
the skull weapons would be useful IF big fodder hordes actually existed and you couldn’t take them out immediately
rose cargo
well there’s your problem
i don’t have any feelings for the ricochet tbf
green estuary
Ricochet is overpowered, honestly probably should be damage-reduced
It’s not OP, because it requires you to be without your shield
eager thistle
heatblast is absolutely nuts
I always use the no spread variant, like the upgrade says it reduces spread but it doesnt do that, it REMOVES it
green estuary
Which is a big ask in a tough arena
crude sparrow
If I could aim properly I'd probably get more use out of the ricochet 💀
fading bone
i also used to use the reduced spread one but once i realized that the big demons just get hit by everything anyway its soooo much better to have the attack speed
crude sparrow
Really the only time I ever use it is with mancs
rose cargo
i cannot find a good reason to use the pulverizer and the other weapon variant
fading bone
the speed boost and it nukes all fodder
green estuary
i cannot find a good reason to use the pulverizer and the other weapon variant
Arbitrary damage mitigation strikes again
fading bone
and if youre close to a large amount of heavy demons it actually roasts them too
eager thistle
i also used to use the reduced spread one but once i realized that the big demon...
True, I only use it on prince asscrack and komodos
fading bone
use it on vagaries dude
crude sparrow
Shield throw is already better at taking out fodder
fading bone
its insane
rose cargo
i can nuke all the fodder if i kill a battle knight with the cycler with the upgrades or the shield
eager thistle
I always use the cycler for that
fading bone
heatblast spam is even better
eager thistle
Because I am a fiend for falters
green estuary
True, I only use it on prince asscrack and komodos
The ravager is probably the worst weapon you could use on ahzrak and Komodos
They both take heavily reduced damage from it
fading bone
i kill them so fast its crazy
rose cargo
i do not like heatblast cause it’s the only thing you would ever want to use in eternal except in tag 2 when it’s mandatory
and I already am not a big fan of it in general
eager thistle
When is it mandatory?
crude sparrow
Heat blast sucked in eternal because it required you to use the plasma rifle base fire 💀
rose cargo
When is it mandatory?
i meant the other weapon mod
fading bone
heatblast is so busto in dark ages man
rose cargo
you would use only heat blast then switch to the other mod to fuck the spirits up bc it’s the only thing that can kill them
crude sparrow
I fucking love microwave beam
The Peam 🗣️
rose cargo
i didn’t use the ssg much
eager thistle
🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️
crude sparrow
I would never even use the heat blast because I'd never use the plasma rifle itself
Microwave beam was the only good thing that gun had and that's a lot to say xD
rose cargo
the spread feels too fucking wide to even remotely consider using, every time i would want to use it i would have better and more comfortable ways of killing enemies
eager thistle
i meant the other weapon mod
You could have a baron of hell charging at you about to crush you snd the microwave beam calms him down instantly
rose cargo
i also don’t know when to use the impaler
rose cargo
You could have a baron of hell charging at you about to crush you snd the microw...
i just do my usual spam, cause it’s eternal and has weapon swapping
fading bone
impaler is still the strongest gun in the game
crude sparrow
The impaler just gives you insane damage for doing literally anything 💀
eager thistle
i also don’t know when to use the impaler
zero master literally only used the impaler in his first playthrough
crude sparrow
And has infinite ammo
rose cargo
lol i haven’t actually gotten a good use out of the impaler, i upgraded it and everything i just, dont use it
fading bone
do it. youll realize its just insane
eager thistle
It’s actually balanced if you dont upgrade it
fading bone
absolutely melts everything especially if you can headshot consistently
rose cargo
oh yeah no thanks
crude sparrow
That's fine honestly, there's a couple of weapons that are really good and I just forget about them and don't use them at all
rose cargo
i can’t headshot consistently
fading bone
thats fine, its still crazy good
rose cargo
not on controller; chainshot is so fun
eager thistle
Impaler is only the best if you can consistently headshot, otherwise its probably the ssg
rose cargo
parry into fully charged chainshot = huge profit against cyber demons, eventually i will get the hang of beating them quickly
eager thistle
Headshots are honestly really easy though in this game
rose cargo
i don’t use the ssg either
eager thistle
What do you use then lmaoo
rose cargo
i used it less than 10 times in my first playthrough
thin hound
I wish they weren’t honestly, I like sticking demons to walls with the impaler
green estuary
The bullet magnetism on the impaler is especially egregious in TDA
thin hound
I feel like it’s too easy to get headshots with the impaler
rose cargo
What do you use then lmaoo
depends on what i’m fighting:
for cyber demons i spam cycler, shredder with pincushion, then i shield throw combat shotgun spam then reset and repeat
green estuary
You can visibly miss a headshot and the rail spike will literally curve sideways towards the head hitbox
Magnetism is present in other guns but not to the same extent
crude sparrow
The ssg kinda suffers because of it's long reload time, which is why I generally only use it when I know I can kill the demon in one shot with it
rose cargo
cycler is for shock, pincushion, shotgun spam, then shield throw to stun them for a bit
ssg bullet spread saddens me, and the reload time is enough for a run to end depending on the situation
crude sparrow
Also in eternal I used it more as a finisher weapon and obviously for traversal
eager thistle
Respect for using the lower tiers
green estuary
The ssg kinda suffers because of it's long reload time, which is why I generally...
You can one cycle an Agaddon with the ssg + gauntlets
rose cargo
i really like the lower tier weapons in TDA more than the higher tier
like I didn’t even use the rocket launcher much till the end of the game
eager thistle
Except shield throw spam hurts to watch and it annoys me when people do it
rose cargo
the rocket launcher is unironically, pretty decent
eager thistle
I fucking love the rocket launcher
crude sparrow
You can one cycle an Agaddon with the ssg + gauntlets
Ik I do that a lot
rose cargo
grenade launcher should not exist
eager thistle
Wrong
rose cargo
just gonna put that out there
fading bone
grenade launcher is poopy doodoo
crude sparrow
I think the grenade launcher just doesn't fit my play style
rose cargo
I do not like the grenade launcher it’s just grounded rocket launcher and absolutely unnecessary, i’d argue it’s the third worst weapon in the game next to ravager and pulverizer
eager thistle
You must be poopy doodoo then cuz the grenade launcher is amazing
green estuary
the grenade launcher does not do anything that either the rocket launcher or the shredder don’t do much better
Besides letting you play a cover shooter and lob grenades over barriers
crude sparrow
Cooked rockets my beloved ❤️
fading bone
yeah the grenade launcher just does a worse job of plenty of other weapons/util in the kit
eager thistle
The grenade launcher is much higher dps in a crowd then the rocket launcher
I can't prove that I just feel like it is
green estuary
Except it isn’t 
eager thistle
Its the cluster bombs
green estuary
Blood sacrifice nukes tightly packed groups of enemies like nothing else in this game
crude sparrow
I'd use the blood sacrifice upgrade but cooked rockets are just too good to pass up on
rose cargo
the parry heal on the rocket launcher literally has saved me vs azhrak
eager thistle
If you have a leader or any enemy with lots of health, you can spam him with grenades and he becomes a massive area of denial to any low to mid tier enemy
The grenade launcher is why I rarely use pincushion
fading bone
or i can parry the leader manc 3 times and shoot 3 empowered rockets and the fight is immediately over
crude sparrow
Literally better BFC 💀
eager thistle
Fuck empowered rockets
crude sparrow
gasp
hazy pasture
Greetings
eager thistle
Its so op if you are doing ultra nightmare literally just keep a distance from everything and spam those
hazy pasture
Oh the nade vs rocket launcher debate
green estuary
If you count the splash damage, cooked rockets are the highest single instance of damage in this game, besides the dreadmace
eager thistle
Rocket launcher is still better
crude sparrow
Oh the nade vs rocket launcher debate
Rocket launcher is winning as usual
eager thistle
No denying that
hazy pasture
Rocket launcher is winning as usual <:kekw:1301237513708638248>
Kekw
eager thistle
Its more of a debate of viability
hazy pasture
I use nade only to do the nade + shield block jump tech
crude sparrow
I might just be crazy but if I see big crowds of demons I just run in with the flail and try to farm all that juicy armor with it 💀
It doesn't usually work
wide siren
nades are fun. i did totally dismiss them the first time i played though
eager thistle
I use nade only to do the nade + shield block jump tech
Yeah use that to skip that entire nightmare imps part in spire
hazy pasture
I might just be crazy but if I see big crowds of demons I just run in with the f...
The kaching sfx is too arousing
Can't play without hearing that every 5 seconds
hazy pasture
Yeah use that to skip that entire nightmare imps part in spire
Yh
crude sparrow
The kaching sfx is too arousing
But seriously there have been moments where the flail has literally kept me alive for much longer than it should've
eager thistle
But seriously there have been moments where the flail has literally kept me aliv...
I want to have that happen
I am a flail newbie ive been trying to use it
crude sparrow
I was getting jumped by hell knights in this one ripatorium preset and I'd just spam flail, had critical health but 150 armor 💀 💀
fading bone
for every 6 hits with the flail giving you 40 armor total, i have one cycled 2 super heavy demons with the gauntlets
green estuary
I might just be crazy but if I see big crowds of demons I just run in with the f...
Me when a single fodder projectile deals more damage than all the armor drops from that 3 hit combo I just did on a group of enemies
hazy pasture
But seriously there have been moments where the flail has literally kept me aliv...
With the melee hotswap here now, I just change to Flail only to break armors cuz it's that good
crude sparrow
Me when a single fodder projectile deals more damage than all the armor drops fr...
I'm not saying it's great but it has its uses
fading bone
the use of giving you negligible amounts of armor
eager thistle
Ground fissure covers my armor necessities generally
crude sparrow
I had critical health and swinging that flail literally netted me like 300 armor in that situation I'm not even joking
hazy pasture
I had critical health and swinging that flail literally netted me like 300 armor...
Lmao
crude sparrow
I'd get hit and it'd instantly refill back to full armor
eager thistle
I had critical health and swinging that flail literally netted me like 300 armor...
You can actually make the BFC encounter easy by using the flail and ground fissure
crude sparrow
But like I said when I see a big group of demons I run in and try and do that exact same thing and then die because it doesn't work 💀
eager thistle
If you dont want to use the bfc
I love the way armor works in dark ages
Like you can allocate more of your resources towards armor if you need it, instead of just the one option for armor in eternal
crude sparrow
You definitely have to work for it more than just pressing F on a group of fodders and then lobbing a grenade for an instant full armor refill
eager thistle
For me that goes to blood punch
eager thistle
ohhh the crunch sound
fading bone
yeah
eager thistle
I remember now, i miss that
fading bone
plus the belch sound itself is amazing
crude sparrow
And the hammer would boost that like 10 fold
versed quarry
plus the belch sound itself is amazing
The blood punch sound was so good too
eager thistle
I should replay the master levels but tbh im scared too after so much time on the ground with a shield
crude sparrow
I should replay the master levels but tbh im scared too after so much time on th...
I haven't played eternal since tda came out but I've replayed 2016 recently to see how it held up so I might do the same with eternal
versed quarry
The “ohhhhhmmmmmm” noise after the blood punch was just great
eager thistle
In 2020 Doom eternal on ps4 was the first fps game I had ever gotten into and enjoyed, and i remember spending 7 hours doing the super gore nest master level on hurt me plenty
crude sparrow
If I had to say I'm probably most excited about the khalim master level because of the music alone
eager thistle
Was that confirmed?
fading bone
how do you do the grenade jump thing
eager thistle
You just gotta time it right
crude sparrow
Was that confirmed?
There's a rumor we might even get a whole master campaign this time
green estuary
how do you do the grenade jump thing
Jump, look down, and hold block right as the grenade explodes
eager thistle
Like shoot down and jump so that you are on top of the grenade
And it barely boosts you dont expect a lot
fading bone
OH i got it
rose cargo
In 2020 Doom eternal on ps4 was the first fps game I had ever gotten into and en...
I hated SGN master level
eager thistle
It might be the goat
green estuary
I hated SGN master level
crude sparrow
That might've legit been the most fun I've ever had in a video game
green estuary
It’s easily my favorite unmodded level in eternal
crude sparrow
That and the world spear level imo
eager thistle
The world spear master is pure drugs
crude sparrow
Also mars core was really good
eager thistle
Ive only done it on ultra nightmare once then never again
And I could never do it on controller
rose cargo
i would love for master levels to return to TDA honestly, i just hate the gameplay loop of eternal and the amount of pure sweaty gameplay it was
green estuary
Mars core ML is too long
Same with world spear, but even more so
eager thistle
I think the master levels should be long
crude sparrow
Mars core ML is too long
Same with world spear, but even more so
Yeah but that means more combat
eager thistle
Like I genuineley want to feel tired at the end
crude sparrow
Like I genuineley want to feel tired at the end
"thank GOD that's over, now lemme do it again"
eager thistle
World spear master level is the true final boss of eternal
I love how doom eternal is so spiritutally doom 2
green estuary
"thank GOD that's over, now lemme do it again"
Yeah no dawg lmao
crude sparrow
I'd glaze the taras nabad master level too if it wasn't for that fuckass room with the coin in it
green estuary
The coin room isn’t even that bad tbh
eager thistle
Icon of sin, tag 1 is plutonia, tag 2 is tnt cuz it sucks, and master levels
rose cargo
I love how doom eternal is so spiritutally doom 2
spiritually doom 2 and i hate em both
green estuary
The double archvile room is much worse to do with no super weapons
crude sparrow
The double archvile room is much worse to do with no super weapons
Okay true
I think my mind had to repress that memory or something I completely forgot about it
green estuary
The coin room literally has a little cutout in it for you to cheese it with d blade
crude sparrow
I never did that
eager thistle
spiritually doom 2 and i hate em both <:kekw:1301237513708638248>
Doom the dark ages is also spirutally doom 64 and I love them both for it
green estuary
And even without d blade, there are no bullet sponges in the coin room so you just have to have good movement
crude sparrow
I just remember that room was my biggest problem when doing a UN run on it
green estuary
I can’t be bothered to do anything in eternal on UN anymore
eager thistle
i remember nothing but pain from that room
crude sparrow
Also I loved the rapid fire rounds at the end that brought you to previous arenas that was peak
fleet spruce
Doom the dark ages is also spirutally doom 64 and I love them both for it
We need more hell castles surrounded by water
eager thistle
We need more hell castles surrounded by water
YES
crude sparrow
I think we need more swimming sections and purple goo
fleet spruce
I think we need more swimming sections and purple goo
Swimming in purple goo? Cruel and unusual
eager thistle
You can skip literally all of it with good use of the meathook
crude sparrow
Swimming in purple goo? Cruel and unusual
That shit in urdak
eager thistle
and dashing
green estuary
Purple goo just doesn’t belong in the game
eager thistle
That shit in urdak
Why is that water breathable for no reason
crude sparrow
Because heavenly jelly idk
eager thistle
Ew
green estuary
The usage in arc complex is at least better than usual because you can skip it
But at the same time, having it impossible to use your meathook or dash out of it when you get stuck in it is just ridiculous
eager thistle
Meathook definitely gets you out
crude sparrow
Okay but what about that one room in world spear
eager thistle
The damaging floor with the poison gas?
crude sparrow
The one before you get the hammer with the purple goo
green estuary
The one before you get the hammer with the purple goo
twilit stone
Purple goo is incredibly important to the fun zone, you guys just don't get it
eager thistle
The purple demon semen
harsh egret
theres no way the word s u s s y is banned
i was gonna say i got this feeling the goo is coming back in the dlc in some way or another and we gotta use the shield bash or some new mobility options to get out of it
green estuary
Purple goo is important to the fun zone the same way a possessed marauder ignoring a point blank ballista shot is important to the fun zone
eager thistle
If theres just one purple goo puddle and its in a secret area
crude sparrow
i was gonna say i got this feeling the goo is coming back in the dlc in some way...
Doomguy just slurps it all up
empty furnace
i just got a brand new piano can it run doom the dark ages
harsh egret
Doomguy just slurps it all up
twilit stone
i was gonna say i got this feeling the goo is coming back in the dlc in some way...
I mean isnt the goo in TDA with the spit stuff the Vagary anf Mancubus does
versed quarry
Doomguy just slurps it all up
That’s why he’s so heavy in The Dark Ages
eager thistle
Nah thats the green goo
crude sparrow
https://tenor.com/view/write-that-down-taking-notes-school-universities-universi...
And then you get the cursed prowler effect from it 🥀
harsh egret
I mean isnt the goo in TDA with the spit stuff the Vagary anf Mancubus does
to a degree yh
green estuary
At least the slowing effect isn’t as egregious
harsh egret
And then you get the cursed prowler effect from it 🥀
id software, hire this man
green estuary
Even if it does damage you
harsh egret
ye
empty furnace
The purple demon semen
what did hugo mean by this?
twilit stone
Still fucking sucks tho like seriously
harsh egret
eh, i dont think its that bad
eager thistle
Why do people hate the purple goo so much
empty furnace
we ALL want a flying marauder that shoots purple goo at you which AUTOMATICALLY triggers a buff totem for EVERY SINGLE DEMON in a 6 mile radius
eager thistle
I loved it, I wanted to stay in it
crude sparrow
If you think about it not using auto sprint in tda is kinda like being in the purple goo
harsh egret
i actually like that attack from the vagary, forces u to be on the move instead of it being just another demon u sit and parry up close 100% of the time
twilit stone
Why do people hate the purple goo so much
I actually don't hate it that much honestly but it's still like.. why?
empty furnace
how do i enable auto sprint
harsh egret
somewhere in the settings
eager thistle
I actually don't hate it that much honestly but it's still like.. why?
Yknow what, honestly I like the purple goo
eager thistle
I actually don't hate it that much honestly but it's still like.. why?
Theres a part in the mars core master level that traps you in rising purple goo, and you have to fight a baron of hell in it, and I loved it
crude sparrow
Yknow what, honestly I like the purple goo
eager thistle
The game making me panic is what I play it for
crude sparrow
Theres a part in the mars core master level that traps you in rising purple goo,...
That one with the lasers was alright since there wasn't even much room to move around anyway
But the fucking loading bay with the smoke
twilit stone
It should be used as sparingly as possible, like any good environmental hazard
eager thistle
^^^
twilit stone
But its fucking everywhere in Exultia which is also a very early level in the game, which gives people a bad impression
eager thistle
Yeah actually I forgored about exultia, that shit was ass
harsh egret
Theres a part in the mars core master level that traps you in rising purple goo,...
i hope master levels in tda do fun stuff the same way some of the later master levels in eternal did
eager thistle
I have beef with the room in the hell part where you have kill every demon, including the zombies to progress
eager thistle
i hope master levels in tda do fun stuff the same way some of the later master l...
Yeah but I hope they make it less gamey than eternal
crude sparrow
i hope master levels in tda do fun stuff the same way some of the later master l...
I think they got the hang of it now so probably we got nothing to worry about
Look at the cultist base and arc complex master levels they weren't special in any way 😭
twilit stone
Yeah but I hope they make it less gamey than eternal
TDA's already more gamey than Eternal so don't get ur hopes up lol
eager thistle
??
twilit stone
(Is that a hot take?)
eager thistle
Hows that
harsh egret
i mean ye i know what u mean, like the one room where u get trapped in with fodder and barrels on khalim i went like "fk yeah this is fun" lol
crude sparrow
Tda is very much more arcadey than enteral
eager thistle
Ok I don't understand that take at all
twilit stone
I mean just the fact you STILL can't disable fucking top notifications like seriously
eager thistle
Eternal can become like a mario game
twilit stone
I don't need to know I'm near a Sentinel shrine for the 4thbillion time
green estuary
Tda is very much more arcadey than enteral
harsh egret
I don't need to know I'm near a Sentinel shrine for the 4thbillion time
its like 2-3 things compared to like 20-30 things that make it arcadey in eternal
crude sparrow
Eternal can become like a mario game
And you can play connect 4 with the vagary what's your point
eager thistle
I don't need to know I'm near a Sentinel shrine for the 4thbillion time
That was useful first few playthroughs
harsh egret
its nowhere near eternal when it comes to that
tropic adder
It's an entirely different gameplay routine, no point in comparing salad with steak. You either eat them both or leave one out.
eager thistle
But yeah u should be able to turn that off
crude sparrow
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1400344876326850584/1406338010123075795/i...
I'm saving that gif thank you
twilit stone
Cuz you can in 2016 and Eternal and it's just bothering me a lot that they still haven't added that option, I know it's really petty but ughh
fading bone
i feel like some of you guys really search for things to complain about lol
i could not care less that that thing pops up i dont even notice it when it does
crude sparrow
It's just small things
green estuary
You can turn tutorials off for TDA
The sentinel shrine notification isn’t a tutorial though, hence why it doesn’t switch off
twilit stone
Yeah, I'm not trying to make a fuss I'm just saying like.. 2016 and Eternal had it. It was very nice, I very much liked how customisable 2016 and Eternal's UI is
harsh egret
i could not care less that that thing pops up i dont even notice it when it does
yh tbh its not that annoying lol
tropic adder
I love complaining. This is what I feed on. But there's no point in comparing Eternal to TDA in aspect of gameplay. What works for some doesnt work for others. Or both work. Or neither. Simple as that.One is a flying crossword puzzle, other is reflex skill check.
twilit stone
And the other is 2016
eager thistle
2016 is spiritually doom 1
crude sparrow
Not much of a crossword puzzle when you can put in like 14 wrong letters and still get it right but sure
fleet spruce
2016 is spiritually doom 1
You mean 3
tropic adder
2016 is the most "doom" of the 3 if we're being honest, "to angi to die" shtick aside.
eager thistle
You mean 3
No, and hopefully our next doom game isnt either
tropic adder
Not much of a crossword puzzle when you can put in like 14 wrong letters and sti...
In your case, we'll call it a sudoku.
green estuary
You mean 3
Brotha ewwww
eager thistle
2016 is the most "doom" of the 3 if we're being honest, "to angi to die" shtick ...
I think civvie once said that doom 3 is what doom 1 had intended to be at the time, but it turned out more like how modern doom is
crude sparrow
I still have yet to beat doom 3 I'm gonna be honest
fleet spruce
No, and hopefully our next doom game isnt either
The plot, the aesthetics... What do you mean no????
eager thistle
Those are amazing
twilit stone
I'd kill for another game like 3 ngl 😅
eager thistle
I was thinking gameplay
fleet spruce
gameplay it's Quake 2
harsh egret
I'd kill for another game like 3 ngl 😅
which is why i want a doom 3 remake/remaster
eager thistle
I didnt love the doom 3 gameplay guys sorry
tropic adder
I think civvie once said that doom 3 is what doom 1 had intended to be at the ti...
Dont really care what a youtuber/streamer says. played doom back in the 90s. Played doom3 when it came out. I don't need anyone to tell me what I think of it.
eager thistle
Tone and atmosphere and music are as doom as it can get though
crude sparrow
The plot, the aesthetics... What do you mean no????
Those are very much doom 3, but I'm glad they moved onto designs that more resemble the classic counterparts
Those are so much more recognizable
eager thistle
So weird how the hell knight is STILL based on doom 3
twilit stone
I just love it's vibe, and the vibe is a big part of anything for me
crude sparrow
So weird how the hell knight is STILL based on doom 3
That's like the only thing they kept from doom 3 lol
tropic adder
Dude HK is gorgeous and Im happy they stuck to Doom3 HK. I wanna have one and call him Fluffy and make him wear a pink bow. I'd feed it neighboors and other doom fans.
twilit stone
Its weirdly cozy to me I don't know why, maybe cuz of how cramped and "early 2000s" it feels
eager thistle
That's like the only thing they kept from doom 3 lol
Super turbo turkey puncher?????
crude sparrow
But to be fair the other option was a reskinned pale baron so 🥀
eager thistle
Why isnt that in dark ages
tropic adder
Why isnt that in dark ages
cuz ... R E A S O N S, nothing doom is in dark ages except doomguy and the shotgun, apparently. so why would super turbo turkey puncher be there?
crude sparrow
Why isnt that in dark ages
Only reason they included the gauntlets was to reference super turkey puncher 🗣️
tropic adder
Only reason they included the gauntlets was to reference super turkey puncher 🗣...
Now that's grasping at straws.
fleet spruce
I think civvie once said that doom 3 is what doom 1 had intended to be at the ti...
I find it hilarious when he said in the comments that Mick Gordon is better than FM considering his opinions Dark Ages is much closer to his taste.
eager thistle
cuz ... R E A S O N S, nothing doom is in dark ages except doomguy and the shotg...
There are a good amount of musical references to classic games in dark ages
tropic adder
There are a good amount of musical references to classic games in dark ages
That is true. Sadly I didnt hear them because my pc is shit and didnt load the music well when I first player the game.
Then I didnt replay it.
eager thistle
Some parts of the spire of nerathul sound like the tower of babel music
crude sparrow
Really?
twilit stone
TDA's ost reminded me of Quake II than anything else
tropic adder
TDA's ost reminded me of Quake II than anything else
Wait how 2? You mean 1?
OH WAIT you said OST nvm!
twilit stone
Like the track "Rage" from II especially
crude sparrow
That's actually the one thing I thought was missing in FM's ost. Mick added so many references from classic doom and I loved it. Didn't know finishing move did that too though
Maybe I just didn't notice any of them idk
eager thistle
Doomguys pain grunts in dark ages are taken directly from rage
crude sparrow
I have those off so
eager thistle
And I've never played rage, I literally found this out watching breaking bad
twilit stone
Maybe I just didn't notice any of them idk
There's only one that I know of, it's in Ancestral Beast I think
fleet spruce
the only track to remind me of Q2 is the Spire of Nerathul combat track
twilit stone
the only track to remind me of Q2 is the Spire of Nerathul combat track
Exactly. Probably why it's my favourite track
crude sparrow
There's only one that I know of, it's in Ancestral Beast I think
In eternal you had the betrayer's theme resemble the chapter end music from classic doom, and the main menu music with the icon of sin theme 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥
That was peam
fleet spruce
That's actually the one thing I thought was missing in FM's ost. Mick added so m...
I missed 99% of the it because Mick pretty seamlessly integrated them into his soundtracks
crude sparrow
Also the imp's song plays in this one ambient track in 2016
harsh egret
fun fact, on spire of nerathul, one of the cthluhu statues' eyes glow green when u get close to it and fades away when u go away
found out randomly while playing not long ago
fleet spruce
fascinating, details like this are so cool
harsh egret
its so random lol
eager thistle
Imp Song plays in Arc Complex's ambient track as well
I think thats dark halls
twilit stone
Yeah yeah
eager thistle
🤓 sorry
twilit stone
Into Sandy's City's in there somewhere as well I think
fleet spruce
wonder if there are any trees speaking prophecies in the Dark Ages
twilit stone
Nope, that would be too clever and cryptic and subtle
crude sparrow
Into Sandy's City's in there somewhere as well I think
I know ultrakill references that in the track "dune eternal" so you can't really be more on the nose that that 💀
empty furnace
I know ultrakill references that in the track "dune eternal" so you can't really...
dune eternal
that should be the title for dune part 3
dune eternal
crude sparrow
And then they get hit with a cease and desist from Bethesda because it sounds a bit too much like doom eternal
wintry forge
In eternal you had the betrayer's theme resemble the chapter end music from clas...
There’s actually another reason that he used the icon of sin music for the title of doom eternal
Not many people know this, but that track was originally meant for the first Doom, not Doom II. It acted as the menu theme. It was cut from the final release and later repurposed/ finished for Doom II. That can’t be a coincidence, and I believe this is yet another instance of Mick’s clever callbacks. Not just as a nod to the Icon of Sin from Doom II, but as its original plan to use as the menu music
ionic quail
Hello, why does Doom Dark Ages have bugs with the items you've collected? In the Steam PC version. Also, the secret areas that you enter with the shield fail when you reload the map. That is, they become covered again, but they remove the purple circle, preventing you from breaking them again with the shield.
My question is WHY? When I played it two days before the game came out, I didn't have any of THESE glitches. Why do I have them NOW?
fleet spruce
dunno, i only experienced gore nest not being destroyed upon replaying the first level
fading bone
games are buggy and weird
i also had the shield bash one in the past on siege 1 and it was very annoying
so i just made sure i never forgot the thing inside so i dont have to worry about that anymore x)
also i dont know what you mean by bugs with the items being collected
ionic quail
Well, in level five, when you destroy the wall to destroy one of the turrets, if you die right away and can't destroy it, you have to reload the level and that wall can't be destroyed. Therefore, you can't destroy the turret and the challenge remains incomplete.
slender night
Not many people know this, but that track was originally meant for the first Doo...
I'm pretty sure it was a coincidence, there's a video of him talking about why he chose the Icon of Sin theme and he says he tried to remix a few DOOM II songs to be the menu theme but thought Opening to Hell sounded the most like a main menu theme
fading bone
it sounds like we're talking about the same siege 1 one
yeah that one is bugged so you just have to be careful there
fleet spruce
I'm pretty sure it was a coincidence, there's a video of him talking about why h...
probably music sense striked again
fading bone
its not like its a hard encounter tho so it shouldnt ever happen more than once
but still what do you mean about bugs with items collected?
arctic pagoda
You guys are collecting bugs?? All I can find are shiny baubles
alpine pilot
where doom 
harsh egret
Anyone else have the collectors edition?
yes
wintry forge
Yep
arctic pagoda
The steelbook annoys me
wintry forge
Never care for the steel book tbh
harsh egret
wintry forge
Especially since I’m on pc so it’s just another empty case
arctic pagoda
It's not though
It holds the physical steel key card, but cannot fit the disc in it
wintry forge
Eh
arctic pagoda
And that's why it annoys me, there's no spot for the disc
arctic pagoda
It is dumb, why is it like this?
arctic pagoda
A regular case
wintry forge
The steel book case was separate if I remember correctly. Because of the keycard. Normally the disk come inside a unique steel book case and not the standard case packed in alongside a steel book one
arctic pagoda
It just came in a regular vinyl case
wintry forge
Yeah I can see why that’s annoying. If you take the foam part out, is there a disk holder?
arctic pagoda
Nope
wintry forge
Yeah that’s annoying
arctic pagoda
Box is cool though, comes with a cool background art and display window
crude sparrow
the disc for pc is just made out of paper anyway
wintry forge
What’s more annoying is getting the helmet and the collectors edition and getting 2 separate keycards, only to be able to get the third one for, what, $2k for the Nvidia bundle that has it? And then later they rerelease them all, but you have to buy all 3 AGAIN if you want the third one (without buying the Nvidia bundle lmao)
crude sparrow
that was kinda bad yeah
arctic pagoda
I like the statue, even if the cape doesn't really fit well
crude sparrow
i didnt get the helmet so I only have my red one
arctic pagoda
Dang
crude sparrow
also isn't it kinda weird that in the modern trilogy doomguy's visor gets smaller each game?
hes not gonna be able to see in the next one
arctic pagoda
Nah, next one it'll just be a cyclops visor
crude sparrow
also how do y'all feel about being able to see doomguy's face behind the helmet
arctic pagoda
I like it
crude sparrow
I think it's alright in tda but I didnt really like it that much in eternal
installed a mod that makes the visor opaque and I think it makes him look more intimidating ngl
arctic pagoda
I liked part one of eternals dlc but not part 2
obtuse oyster
I need help understanding the aggadon hunter behavior
sometimes they use a red attack that cant be parried and completely breaks your shield
how am I supposed to avoid that I assume it's some punishing mechanic
crude sparrow
nope, but I think it's actually 2 attacks, one melee and then the projectile
the projectile itself doesnt break your shield so if you keep your distance it shouldn't break your shield
it's kinda like the marauder where you have to be at the perfect distance to engage him
obtuse oyster
I think when it dashes back it uses it
crude sparrow
here it's a little relaxed since it only applies to that one attack otherwise you can basically be hugging him
crude sparrow
I'm not sure if there has to be some condition met for him to do that attack but I know the projectile shouldn't do enough damage to break your shield on its own
obtuse oyster
also the double attack he does has the exact same starting animation as the singular one
crude sparrow
but I have gotten my shield destroyed by it before so I assume theres also a melee attack there which pushes it past the threshold
obtuse oyster
which is very cool
arctic pagoda
Unless you're playing on altered or higher difficulty
crude sparrow
Unless you're playing on altered or higher difficulty
you should still be able to tank it on base nightmare which is 250% damage to player
arctic pagoda
Aight
obtuse oyster
Unless you're playing on altered or higher difficulty
the only different thing is 120% speed
arctic pagoda
I see
green estuary
i cant determine when the red attack pops out at all
It’s not necessarily something you can control
Not hugging his nuts just makes it doable to adequately recognize the attack and avoid the initial swing
crude sparrow
also the double attack he does has the exact same starting animation as the sing...
the komodo has a singular and double swipe attack too, but there the animation is ever so slightly different. Not enough so you can really notice it, but it's there
green estuary
but I have gotten my shield destroyed by it before so I assume theres also a mel...
Correct
arctic pagoda
Oh agadon hunter
heady trout
It’s not necessarily something you can control
Not hugging his nuts just makes i...
hey i only lick the komods nuts with the ssg
arctic pagoda
I thought the hunter was the komodo
green estuary
It’s the combination of the melee slash and the projectile that breaks your shield
arctic pagoda
No, hunter is big boi
heady trout
komods are odd bc idk what takes them so long to do their parry-able attacks, they just kinda run around like lil bitches and sometimes just stand Infront of u before running away
crude sparrow
they do that to ragebait you
arctic pagoda
Real question is, who gave the imps a receding hairline?
heady trout
who gave the Mancubus even more food bc he's fatter now
crude sparrow
I mean theres a reason why most of the demons are bald 💀
arctic pagoda
It makes sense, centuries of slaughtering imps would make the descendants bald
Mancubus probably eats smaller mancubus
heady trout
problem is they just sit there like bullet sponges
like dude im shooting u point blank with the most powerful close range gun in the game and you just sit there like a puppy waiting for a treat
heady trout
Mancubus probably eats smaller mancubus
protein
arctic pagoda
Fatien
heady trout
true
arctic pagoda
I miss my meatball cacos
heady trout
me too
Dark Ages Caco is literally just dealt better if you tunnel vision him with the chainsaw shield, stun him and shoot, repeat
if you wait he'll do that honestly bonkers invincibility wall attack
arctic pagoda
I don't like the Mindflayers
Technically they're called Acolytes, but I call em Mindflayers
fleet spruce
cacos aren't fucking around in this game
heady trout
if you wait he'll do that honestly bonkers invincibility wall attack
invincibility worked with the revenant cause u can cut it short with parries, but no the Caco is just invulnerable while you play subway surfers momentarily
arctic pagoda
Ye
heady trout
Technically they're called Acolytes, but I call em Mindflayers
Acolytes are also lame
arctic pagoda
Yea, gotta play where's Waldo with his clone
heady trout
Archville but shite
as if the Archville wasn't dubious enough already when playing hide and seek
arctic pagoda
I like how each weapon had a second class, but the plasma rifle is just like "What if we added a second barrel?"
green estuary
That’s also the shotgun lol
arctic pagoda
What was the shotguns second class? Because there was the skullcrusher which turned into a narrow spread
Maybe all of the classes just added on to the weapon
harsh egret
the disc for pc is just made out of paper anyway
tbf still cool that it comes with the cd case
solid nacelle
Real question is, who gave the imps a receding hairline?
They remind me of jesse ventura
crude sparrow
tbf still cool that it comes with the cd case
I mean yeah it's cool
harsh egret
they couldve just not had it at all
crude sparrow
I damaged mine accidentally while opening it with a knife but it doesnt look too bad xD
barely noticable
arctic pagoda
It's now worth $1 bajllion less
crude sparrow
nooooo
green estuary
What was the shotguns second class? Because there was the skullcrusher which tur...
The super shotgun
Aka the one with two barrels lmao
arctic pagoda
Ah yes, the lever action shotgun
crude sparrow
it's also a flintlock btw xD
green estuary
It’s not a flintlock, the hammers are just big
arctic pagoda
Fact, the doom slayers shield weighs so much, only he can lift it
harsh egret
I damaged mine accidentally while opening it with a knife but it doesnt look too...
oof lol
arctic pagoda
I think it's several hundred pounds
green estuary
I doubt it’s that heavy
crude sparrow
It’s not a flintlock, the hammers are just big
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1163795643677020262/1458174586809090248/image.png?ex=695eae69&is=695d5ce9&hm=5b8273dbe09899936ae9059280e024b24d643c16040fb49b283087fe2300479e&=&format=webp&quality=lossless are these not supposed to be cocks?
arctic pagoda
It states it in the lore
crude sparrow
it has claws to ignite the gunpowder too, however that works
green estuary
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1163795643677020262/1458174586809090248...
They’re hammers
Hammer-actuated guns do not have to be flintlocks, even though a flintlock’s most distinctive feature is a big external hammer
obtuse oyster
It’s not necessarily something you can control
Not hugging his nuts just makes i...
ill do my best to try
ive noticed the ravager is great against the marauder-type bosses
green estuary
They’re hammers
Hammer-actuated guns do not have to be flintlocks, even though a...
The hammers do not ignite the gunpowder directly—they strike the primer at the base of the cartridge, which is how a large amount of modern firearms work
crude sparrow
btw I forgot to mention, I did some funny launch tech thingy while playing sneaky's new preset, I can't send clips in this channel so if anyone's interested in seeing it #1457489609649819669 <<<<
I have no idea what happened to make my fly like that but it was cool
hazy pasture
btw I forgot to mention, I did some funny launch tech thingy while playing sneak...
It looked like you bounced off Manky's belly lmao
green estuary
Id tech physics engine goes brrr
hazy pasture
Fr
crude sparrow
now we just need to find a way to replicate it so we can utilize it as actual tech
id pls dont patch
versed quarry
id pls dont patch
They’re gonna patch it just because you asked them not to
crude sparrow
it's fine we can gatekeep it and keep it a secret so they wont even know it exists right
where did that idea come from huh
obsidian shard
Fact, the doom slayers shield weighs so much, only he can lift it
Yes and no, others could possibly lift it, they are just so shocked the Slayer is wielding it and throwing it with such Ease
Considering it weighs a fucking LOT
I wanna see someone do The Slayers Shield Saw vs Captain America's shield
frail bloom
That's actually the one thing I thought was missing in FM's ost. Mick added so m...
There's 5-6 iirc
warm ibex
just launched Path of Vengeance, dropped all the codes in the ripatorium channel. Kick ass trailer made by the majorly talented @subtle heart , who some of you should be familiar with https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892238793174818848/1458181616345284719/Path_of_Vengeance_promo3.png?ex=695eb4f5&is=695d6375&hm=a7c77da4fb8b1ee1f53c27a3cdca2f6aebc4c90fb42e7151a96cbf4303a15fc1
crude sparrow
I thought this was just one preset and then I scrolled up and saw like 15 different codes
you didnt have to cook this hard bro 😭
we'll be eating goooooood
violet zealot
Can any one please tell me the order all the doom games in the timeline. It's for a friend that is going to start playing doom
random sand
Can any one please tell me the order all the doom games in the timeline. It's fo...
doom - doom 2 - doom 64 - doom the dark ages - doom 2016 - doom eternal - doom eternal the ancient gods
hazy pasture
Can any one please tell me the order all the doom games in the timeline. It's fo...
DOOM 1, DOOM 2 : Hell on Earth, DOOM 64, DOOM : The Dark Ages, DOOM(2016), DOOM : Eternal
And DOOM 3 being the alt timeline's only DOOM game so far
violet zealot
Thank you I will tell my friend the order when I call him
hazy pasture
Coolio
frail bloom
Doom 3
hazy pasture
Doom 3<:doomcry:668559689205940249>
No hate on Doom 3 it's one of my favs but ig Samur asked for the prime timeline games
frail bloom
But he gonna miss out
hazy pasture
Lemme fix that
hazy pasture
Thank you I will tell my friend the order when I call him
Make him play Doom 3 too
crude sparrow
yeah but leave it for last as a cherry on top
fervent maple
The hammers do not ignite the gunpowder directly—they strike the primer at the b...
Don't the hammers actually have to line up with the cartridge for it to set off the primer in the first place, though?
random sand
But he gonna miss out
well depends on the preference
crude sparrow
Don't the hammers actually have to line up with the cartridge for it to set off ...
thats what I was thinking
random sand
i love doom but wouldn't say i'm missing out from not having played doom 3
crude sparrow
which is why I thought they were flintlock cocks
obsidian shard
just launched Path of Vengeance, dropped all the codes in the ripatorium channel...
The SSG Hamers could just be for Aura points
Wrong ping lmao
green estuary
Don't the hammers actually have to line up with the cartridge for it to set off ...
yep
I figure the external hammers are moreso for visuals in this case
as in they are actually connected to the internals but the size of them isn't really necessary
fervent maple
It looks and is described as using black powder - which is quite specific to flintlocks and some old revolvers like the 1851 Navy
crude sparrow
^
fervent maple
In fact, should the SSG in-game be a flintlock, it would technically work IRL
The sole thing missing is a bigger tube to hold the next shells when you reload it
crude sparrow
yeah pulling the lever kinda just magically puts in new shells but it's cool so
green estuary
It looks and is described as using black powder - which is quite specific to fli...
well yeah, "shells are created using a rare black powder from fossilized remains of a creature" that's just your standard gunpowder in a cartridge
fervent maple
The codex entry specifies that it incorporates black powder, not specificially into the cartridge
Which would mean it doesn't specify at all where it's used, now that I actually look at it
crude sparrow
the schrodinger's flintlock
green estuary
well a shotgun "shell" is just a name for the cartridge
fervent maple
well a shotgun "shell" is just a name for the cartridge
What I mean is that the codex entry does not mention that said black powder is used in the cartridge, only that it is used at all
green estuary
true
but what would a cartridge/shell be in the weapon for if not to hold the gunpowder
fervent maple
true
but what would a cartridge/shell be in the weapon for if not to hold the gu...
This is the point wherein the SSG comes back around to being ridiculous I think, lol
green estuary
nahhh, it's just a lever action double barrel shottie
fervent maple
The issue is that the hammers do not line up with their cartridges
That is the main thing that makes it a flintlock, it has offset cocks and pans
crude sparrow
yeah I think the hammers have to be external because theres no way to fit them inside because of the break-open panel thingy
if it were to break open in half like a normal double barrel it would work
but then there isnt really a reason to make it lever action
fervent maple
There is only enough room in the chamber for the shells, no other internal mechanisms
green estuary
embed fail lmao
fervent maple
but then there isnt really a reason to make it lever action
The answer at the end of all this is that they wanted shotgun hammers plus their Terminator 2 reload, which is good enough for me
green estuary
they call it a flint lock, yet the shotgun uses conventional shells?
idk, it's weird lmao
fervent maple
Because this thing is an insane abomination designed by space knights lmao
It reminds me of the real world Landstad revolver, or more popularly the Metel from Cyberpunk 2077
Explosve ammo toggle-lock magazine fed revolver
hazy pasture
If I remember correctly, a firearms expert reacted to TDA guns and gave the possible explanation and breakdown of TDA SSG firing action principal
green estuary
what the hellhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1389644177762947115/1458196640652591207/colin-geller-cg-dtda-sg-super-shells.png?ex=695ec2f3&is=695d7173&hm=0b6d3976473f722aa1ac955697956557ed59daee67d481ff14063a3ba1ce8418
fervent maple
If I remember correctly, a firearms expert reacted to TDA guns and gave the poss...
Johnathan Fergusson mentioned
crude sparrow
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1389644177762947115/1458195866312638684/c...
wait I just realized it says there are ammo tubes under the barrels but in game theres literally no space for that to make sense
hazy pasture
Johnathan Fergusson mentioned
Yup yup
crude sparrow
mf's shotgun's got hammerspace for shells
fervent maple
wait I just realized it says there are ammo tubes under the barrels but in game ...
Tube-fed lever-action double-barrel shotgun flintlock
hazy pasture
what the hellhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1389644177762947115/14581966...
Yeah... Super Shells
crude sparrow
In god knows what gauge
thats what I wanted to ask about too like those barrels look huge
hazy pasture
They look like 4 gauge shells to me
Yeah same here
green estuary
yeah 4 gauge shells are like an inch in diameter
sounds about right
fervent maple
thats what I wanted to ask about too like those barrels look huge
The shells in Eternal are big enough to fit in Doomguy's hand - said hand is the size of two catchers mitts
green estuary
no wonder the demons are terrified of this thing lmao
crude sparrow
The shells in Eternal are big enough to fit in Doomguy's hand - said hand is the...
yeah but if you look at the eternal's ssg barrels they're considerably thinner than in this game
green estuary
are they thinner, or is the SSG just longer
fervent maple
yeah but if you look at the eternal's ssg barrels they're considerably thinner t...
The SSG is way longer in Eternal, in TDA it's a lot shorter than even the CSG
hazy pasture
Normal 8 gauge Shells for Combat Shotgun, Super 4 gauge Shells for Super Shotgun
fervent maple
I think that reflects pretty well in-game too, the SSG is VERY inaccurate in TDA
green estuary
nah the combat shotgun is 12 gauge lol
hazy pasture
Oh yeah right
green estuary
at least in 2016/eternal
hazy pasture
The SSG is way longer in Eternal, in TDA it's a lot shorter than even the CSG
Shorter and bulkier design wise
Literally a Shotgun Handcannon
Lmao
green estuary
the tda ssg is has the proportions of a sawed-off but it uses literal inch diameter shells
absolutely wild
hazy pasture
the tda ssg is has the proportions of a sawed-off but it uses literal inch diame...
Something outta 80's action movies
Literally
obsidian shard
Bigger means better eh
green estuary
holy craphttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1389644177762947115/1458198269086929048/colin-geller-cg-dtda-sg-super-iteration-01.png?ex=695ec477&is=695d72f7&hm=bfe7120aaf49e91b570327fffd1f981e44752a5cc08304173cb01b598d57d9c1
green estuary
glad they settled on the final design
these are insane looking but the one in the game is just peak
fleet spruce
quadbarrel would be so funny tho
hazy pasture
A drum mag fed SSG? Nah man the demons fear him more than enough
green estuary
should've given us a full auto combat shotgun
hazy pasture
True
fleet spruce
a full auto double barrel
green estuary
the one game where a full auto shotgun makes zero sense, they gave it to us, and in the two games where it would make all the sense in the world, they gave us 3-round burst
hazy pasture
2nd and 4th iterations look like they were considering melee combat with using the guns
green estuary
like imagine a full auto shotgun with 2016's shell count (well, I don't have to imagine--there's a mod like that)
fleet spruce
2nd and 4th iterations look like they were considering melee combat with using t...
(Doom 4)
green estuary
I would hate to live in the alternate timeline where 2016 was just another call of duty clone
hazy pasture
I would hate to live in the alternate timeline where 2016 was just another call ...
Call of Doom
fleet spruce
honestly ssg which doubles as axe is also a cool variant
crude sparrow
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1163795643677020262/1458198443540353024/image.png?ex=695ec4a0&is=695d7320&hm=bea63aacd785ff18b864bce2dbac5bc84cf9fce6e634933fc8bd2c4bc41568eb&=&format=webp&quality=lossless https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1163795643677020262/1458199232971411557/image.png?ex=695ec55d&is=695d73dd&hm=159c0c6651e02899a3c931df383240019eb7cc6fc04ef069f85e0181a9a221cd&=&format=webp&quality=lossless now that I'm looking at it they dont look that much different
warm ibex
they look pretty different
hazy pasture
honestly ssg which doubles as axe is also a cool variant
Prayge we get something like in TDA 2
crude sparrow
they look pretty different
no I meant the barrel wideness
hazy pasture
Hmm but TDA SSG is chonk
frail bloom
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1163795643677020262/1458198443540353024...
These are very different
crude sparrow
Chat I was talking about how wide the barrels were 😭
crude sparrow
The hole in gun same size as hole in other gun
Yes
frail bloom
Intuitive
warm ibex
no I meant the barrel wideness
even barrel wideness is pretty different, TDA's is like 👀 while the Eternal version is more 👁️ 👄 👁️
frail bloom
Does he mean that or the holes themselves
warm ibex
oh yeah he does
crude sparrow
even barrel wideness is pretty different, TDA's is like 👀 while the Eternal ve...
Theres like a gap in-between them in eternal's one yeah
frail bloom
Eternal's is seperated by something in between
crude sparrow
Does he mean that or the holes themselves
I meant the holes
For a long time I thought eternal's ssg barrels were kinda tight (at least compared to the tda one) but comparing them now they're pretty much the same
The barrels themselves still look bigger on the tda ssg but the inside is just as wide
green estuary
I meant the holes
Just say barrel diameter bro 😭
crude sparrow
Just say barrel diameter bro 😭
I don't know English man it's not my first language 💔
frail bloom
Ye bro say hole diameter
crude sparrow
I think I'll just keep saying holes to piss y'all off
frail bloom
Or if you feeling fancy you say circumference
crude sparrow
Actually that sounds better I think I'll be using that from now on
green estuary
On the contrary, talking about a shotgun’s hole size sounds much funnier