the-dark-ages

[young schooner]

But yeah the time gap is really tenuous and it's annoying how it wasn't really given a lot of care.

The marketing IIRC outright said 2151... which is contradicted by Elena's logs.

If you're the type to take easter eggs super seriously then the 14 years gets pushed up to fucking 30?

[versed quarry]

What

[young schooner]

Oops, sorry, 25.

[young schooner]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1121477880199794698/1457084023427043549/2009711.JPG?ex=695ab6be&is=6959653e&hm=fde47f82aba14896da412cfeb3ffa225a39e6f1e77cc6719e0929411f813a896&

[versed quarry]

oh

[young schooner]

The ARC is said in the Codex to have been founded in either 2150 or 2151 at the beginning of the invasion.

Now, 25 years is absurd. The story can't really work like this.

I like a decent amount of time being between games, but on reflection I think I would've settled for like... 5 years. Or 8.

[flat elm]

https://youtu.be/kAx91mkuX9g
“They were there once"

[versed quarry]

Yeah, that makes me think that the ARC was a pre-existing group that was reappropriated for the invasion.

[slender night]

I like how Wolfenstein does a two decade timeskip with Youngblood and in that time video game technology has not improved a single bit

[spark elm]

What year would we say this game takes place in?

[versed quarry]

Pre-Earth history, presumably

[young schooner]

TDA? It's really hard to say. Like. Absurdly.
Do we mean from the Sentinels' POV, or Earth's?

[spark elm]

Well maybe earth.

[flat elm]

Eons before, in my toilet

[young schooner]

Then TDA happens roughly 60 million years before Eternal, from Earth's POV.

[hazy pasture]

I like to think it could be around earth's prehistoric era

[young schooner]

From Argent D'Nur's POV, it's a lot more unclear, and I would argue there is a much smaller timegap there.

[spark elm]

holy responses alright I gotcha lol

[hazy pasture]

Also howdy

[warm ibex]

I was personally thinking months, certainly not years

[young schooner]

TLDR a bunch of stupid theory bullshit to say that in Argent D'Nur's timespan, IMO probably only a couple thousand years at the most are between TDA and Eternal. For Earth it's 60 million.

You can say the timespan is smaller for Argent D'Nur either because of time dilation crap, or because it's in a separate dimension from Earth. (I prefer the former.)

[unkempt dragon]

#the-codex

[young schooner]

Fair and true.

Actually, I have a separate question for @warm ibex. Since you're a content creator, maybe you'd have an answer.

[warm ibex]

what's up

[young schooner]

I'm thinking of having more images in the Doom guide, specifically renders of characters/demons/enemies/etc for the post-Chronology sections. I'm not very good with Blender, but I'm not keen on just swiping fan renders without sources from the wikis either. I've been thinking of using the various art books, but not sure.

Would you happen to know of any repositories or collections where I can find stuff like this? Official renders? Or fanmade renders, as long as I can credit the person who made them.

I'm ideally wanting to use images consistent with one another. If I have to resort to artbook stuff for demons, I'd rather do that for all/most of them. Renders are easier to work with, though.

I ask this because that's the sort of thing I've had other content creator friends need for videos.

[warm ibex]

I'll respond in dms since I don't wanna clog up tda chat

[young schooner]

Alright.

[obsidian shard]

Artstation! Most of the devs uploaded renders of the demons, enemies, The Slayer and allies as well concept art!

I have a list I can dm you or you can go to Artstation and look up what your looking for!

if you wish!

[flat elm]

I also provided to HORDE some stuff from artstation

[obsidian shard]

Trailer is done!

Steam awards are out
No DOOM 😭

Silksong won GOTY

[warm ibex]

the problem with that comes from the consistency aspect. There are practically zero 2016 character/enemy renders on art station while some enemies from across the trilogy either don't have high quality, game-accurate concepts or don't have public concepts at all

[obsidian shard]

Very true, Eternal is missing alot as well!

[warm ibex]

hell yeah! when do you plan on dropping it?

[obsidian shard]

Monday

[warm ibex]

oh same actually lol

[obsidian shard]

plan is one per week

[young schooner]

Yeah the lack of consistency is keeping me from going for Artstation.

[flat elm]

Joel Bynington's renders?

[warm ibex]

what about them?

[flat elm]

And by Cliff Young

[flat elm]

You say zero 2016 enemy renders

[warm ibex]

where are they? don't seem to be on art station

[warm ibex]

Mono is looking for consistence and quality, which Cliff Young doesn't offer

[flat elm]

Now I understand!

[warm ibex]

awesome!

[obsidian shard]

Damn dude

[harsh egret]

nothing unexpected but

[warm ibex]

I forgot I even voted for the steam awards

did vote for tda, I remember that

[harsh egret]

silent hill f won over tda for outstanding visual style

[green estuary]

predictable

[harsh egret]

katsu what u think of arc raiders winning most innovative gameplay award

[green estuary]

they're ragebaiting lmao

[harsh egret]

gotta love it

[young schooner]

Okay, well, honestly I think that's a fair win.

SHF looked phenomenal.

[green estuary]

is there even a single thing about it that's innovative?

[obsidian shard]

Absolute ASS

[harsh egret]

hmm maybe the way the enemy AI works? idk

other than that i dont think so

[green estuary]

I swear co-op shooters are such a huge cash cow
you just gotta put out something that isn't absolute crap and you'll rake in the money

(obviously it isn't a trivial thing to do, but I just feel like the bar has sunk below the earth at this point)

[harsh egret]

its a very casual gamer game

coming from tarkov i felt it more and more as i played and within like a week and quit cuz i dont enjoy that

[green estuary]

idk I just never understood the point of most extraction shooters
I play the games for the gunplay, yet you're actively encouraged to use the shittiest guns you can find because otherwise you'll probably end up losing the cool stuff if you use it

[harsh egret]

but we're straying away from tda lol

[harsh egret]

yh but if u use the shittiest guns then ur at a huge disadvantage (at least in tarkov lol)

[empty furnace]

say what now?

[warm ibex]

if you wanna tie the discussion back into tda, could talk about the irony of people wanting less huge popular online games that are desperate to be the next fortnite while dark ages gets shit for straying away from the perpetual live service online reward format lol

[empty furnace]

what are steam awards

[fleet spruce]

gambling being the core gameplay is the most appeal i could think of for those

[green estuary]

🤮

[green estuary]

but I need muh skins

[warm ibex]

we go all in on the doomicorn

[harsh egret]

fr

[fleet spruce]

I honestly love that TDA feels like a game from times gone by. No menu clutter n shit , it's all clean.

[warm ibex]

and at the same time I hate that it proves a lot of folks don't want that anymore

[slender night]

Meanwhile boot up DOOM 2016 and Eternal and get 3 advertisements to pre-order TDA

[warm ibex]

I havent' preordered yet, when does it come out

do I still have time

[fleet spruce]

We've got long time till 2030

[slender night]

It also had ads to pre-order Eternal for 5 years lol

[fervent maple]

The goomba fallacy strikes again

I distinctly remember complaints about glory kills a couple years ago; even as recently as a couple days ago, I streamed Eternal to some friends and they said the glory kills were repetitive.

It's amazing how easy it is to bundle everyone into one big group when, really, it's just whichever one of the many small ones is the loudest.

[fleet spruce]

I think main issue here stems from the average consoomer. There's reason COD somehow still sells well despite being yearly released dogshit.

[obsidian shard]

I think both systems are peak and I wouldn't change em for anything

[green estuary]

because multiplayer games have a built in advantage over single player ones

[obsidian shard]

Next game should be whoever yells the loudest gets blank added

[warm ibex]

fair enough lol

Although I do think there's definitely overlap between the people that generally prefer strictly single player games and the people that complain about the lack of cosmetic events in tda

[flat elm]

What do you think, if some of the Halo spint haters would play the game, they would have butthurt?

[warm ibex]

I don't know why they would be lol

two very different franchises, and doom has had a run option since the first game. would be like switching from halo to cod and getting upset at the sprint mechanic

[thin hound]

Sprint mechanics suck in FPS, if you’re base speed is really fast then you don’t need to worry about pressing an extra button all the time

[green estuary]

100% disagree

[harsh egret]

lol

[green estuary]

adds a lot more skill into the game especially when you incorporate sliding

on the contrary, I think games like ultrakill and turbo overkill, as much as I love them, are a little lame in that you can just slide for unlimited distance with a single button press

[thin hound]

It’s better to have really fast movement speed that is assisted by dashes or maybe speed boost modes like in RAGE 2

[green estuary]

although I will say that I'm not a huge fan of how titanfall 2 implements sprinting, in that you have to deal with a long ass delay when firing your weapon out of a sprint

[green estuary]

it's just game-dependent
if you've got basic movement options plus maybe a double jump, then ok, no sprint button is understandable
but if you've got sliding, crouching, dashing, double jumping, etc. I absolutely think a sprint key makes the game better

[thin hound]

You can just slide any time with a button, and always be sprinting

[green estuary]

yeah, which is lame

single button sliding takes the whole fun out of executing slides

just imo

[thin hound]

A good FPS game has lots of abilities, so I don’t need another button limiting me

[harsh egret]

and a good fps game can have a sprint button without it being bothersome

[thin hound]

DOOM Eternal has tons of buttons without a sprint

[thin hound]

Only when there’s a always sprint option

That’s why I’m glad The Dark Ages has that

[green estuary]

expand your mind

the best fps game I've ever played has a sprint button

and it's all the better for it

[thin hound]

Me too, it’s this game

But I have auto sprint on

[harsh egret]

im like stunlocked tryina respond to this conversation bruh

[green estuary]

tda might as well not have a sprint button, because no mechanics of the game change with it on or off, besides your straight line speed

[harsh egret]

cuz it makes no sense

[fleet spruce]

i just wish sprint was omnidirectional

[slender night]

What's the game if I may ask

[green estuary]

witchfire

[slender night]

Huh thought it'd be TNO

[green estuary]

TNO is up there for sure

but witchfire is just absolute peak in literally every way

I cannot possibly glaze the game enough

and it's not even out of early access yet somehow

[slender night]

I think sprint buttons are nice because it is very satisfying to press LS or LT and see my character goofily wave their arms around 😌

[thin hound]

Not in FPS games you can’t

[slender night]

I can though

[harsh egret]

wait til bro finds out theres fps games where u can

[thin hound]

It’s called first person

[slender night]

Yeah you see with your eyes not your hands

[harsh egret]

man...

[thin hound]

Or do you mean just their arms popping up

Never mind I understand

It’s been a while since I’ve played a game with that in it, so I forgot

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/hahaha-run-forrest-gump-tom-hanks-gif-4170876

[elder raven]

@frail bloom @hard thistle @obsidian shard @warm ibex an idea i had: 5 ripatorium rounds, made by 5 people

[obsidian shard]

That's genius

[hard thistle]

I fuck with that.

[elder raven]

ill talk about it more when i get the chance but it'd be pretty fun

[hard thistle]

You lay down the rules, and we’ll come together and come up with something crazy!

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/fall-guys-fall-guys-game-doom-doom-eternal-bethesda-gif-19950658

very very soon

[fading osprey]

holy fuck i forgot the fall guys collab

[harsh egret]

fall guys was unironically peak

[fading osprey]

indeed

and there was godzilla..oh yes

[alpine pilot]

Where doom

[cold ember]

https://tenor.com/view/doomguy-doom-doom-slayer-doom-the-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages-gif-14901082521966246439

[hearty edge]

base speed is bad tho

[little axle]

[thin hound]

I mean it’s better than a lot of other non-DOOM games, and it’s complimented by the after glory kill speed boost rune + meathook and dash

Not to even mention haste power ups

[hearty edge]

sadly that one appears like twice

berserk in tda appeared more times than bro

[frail bloom]

Very cool idea

[random sand]

Quick question because i've wondered this for the longest time. Anyone know if the tagelharpa in this trailer is in the soundtrack. I really love how it sounds. I love whenever the TDA soundtrack actually sounds medieval
https://youtu.be/s1i3YfGl5ag?si=x65kaKsNIbVj9yJp

I've looked for it in the ost but haven't found it

[frail bloom]

No it's not, you're talking abt the beginning right?

[random sand]

Yes

[frail bloom]

Nope

[obsidian shard]

Both the beginning and end isn't sadly, I've seen some game rips have the ending one tho!

They might be in game files but someone would have to look

[random sand]

So sad. I love WTSFL because of the medieval feel it has mixed with doom's heavy guitars. That track sold me on the ost. I still love the ost obviously but i do wish more of them followed that medieval stuff with the tagelharpa

[obsidian shard]

True but tbf every track has the tagelharpa and chello in it! It's what makes the guitars pop, they act as reinforcements

Hearing the guitars isolated is really weird

[random sand]

Can't say i've heard it in every track. Perhaps it is as you say. It supports the guitar to make it better

[obsidian shard]

They have a whole video on it actually, they play and synth up the chello or Tagelharpa and put it beside the guitars to give the music the crunch we hear!

[random sand]

Interesting. I might check that out sometime. I am really intrigued by how they did the soundtrack

[obsidian shard]

They have 3-4 great vids on it!

[random sand]

Awesome. I'll check those out when i have time

[mystic barn]

Nah, they composed it exclusively for the trailer

[obsidian shard]

ah man

Very cool tho

[mystic barn]

That’s only half true. Tracks that use a tagelharpa motif are reserved exclusively for sympathetic characters (Doomguy, Thira, Serrat). It’s decidedly not used in Infernal Chasm, for example

[violet zealot]

Hello there

[merry jackal]

😭 im almost done with doom tda

After this img gonna be very bored

[obsidian shard]

New Pre-set monday dawg

[fleet spruce]

Try The Warp for Doom 2 👍

[merry sapphire]

yall think we gon get that dlc trailer before 2026

[thin hound]

No

[frail bloom]

Hmmm

Me thinks no

[fleet spruce]

We're close... I can feel it...

[frail bloom]

Me no know why

[thin hound]

Only if we get the new Quake game trailer before 2024

[merry jackal]

Wdym

[merry jackal]

Alrigut

[obsidian shard]

I'll be releasing a new Ripatorium Pre-set on Monday! Same with Horde!

[eager thistle]

Does anyone know if my skins and weapon skins will save if I reinstall the game

[fading bone]

it should

as long as you arent switching from like steam to gamepass or whatever

[amber plover]

i don’t really understand the ripatorium tbh

[fading bone]

its just a fun place to try custom challenges

with the full kit unlocked

and to practice

[amber plover]

oh yeah

[obsidian shard]

Play with the combat of Dark Ages!

Make your own challenges and or play community ones which there are a ton of already! The community has been dishing out great stuff

[eager thistle]

Bro I just reinstalled the game and the power gauntlets are still broken for me like what

[amber plover]

my bad for not knowing a lot abt eternal i only started playing like after all the content came out so i’ve been confused abt like the events and everything

[fading bone]

oh youre talking about the eternal ripatorium?

this is the dark ages channel

the eternal ripatorium is ass and useless

[amber plover]

nah i meant because i was lost earlier on like why we won’t get as much skins or anything

for dark ages

[fleet spruce]

I just use world spear skin in Eternal

[fading bone]

sorry im confused what youre talking about lol

[amber plover]

it’s allg lol, i was hoping that we would have like multiplayer and different model skins and everything but i guess not

[fleet spruce]

um, they did say long before release that no multiplayer will be in the game

[amber plover]

i never saw anything abt that 😭

[fading bone]

unlucky

[merry jackal]

Let's goo

[merry sapphire]

whats broken about it

[strong moth]

They’re just too good

[harsh egret]

nah the guy was having issues with the gauntlets in the ripatorium

completly bugged where the 4th hit didnt work and the kick didnt falter

[amber plover]

after playing it for a bit am excited for ripatorium updates

[harsh egret]

i wouldnt expect that much more to be added it, not until they add dlc enemies and stuff

[amber plover]

oh yeah

excited for dlc as well i think we know a bit about that

[harsh egret]

yep

[frosty roost]

I'm excited for the dlc too!

[amber plover]

real

[hazy pasture]

Hugo Boofin is gonna leak the DLC on his next stream, trust

[bleak jackal]

Someone needs to get hugo drunk and trick him into spilling everything 😁😆

[alpine pilot]

Where doom

[amber plover]

i’m so curious to see like what the new weapons and everything will be

[hazy pasture]

Ahh

You'll know soon

[flat elm]

And ask what he actually think about the fans and franchise

[hazy pasture]

Interesting

[sly falcon]

When's the DLC

I'm hyped

[wintry forge]

Never

[fading bone]

i just want to know the date

pls id just tell us the date

[fleet spruce]

tomorrow

[tropic adder]

on 30th of february

[eager thistle]

I feel like the whiplashes ai is unfinished

It like never falters when it's in an animation, and you cannot melee it while it is slithering away

[fading bone]

the slithering is basically like an invincible state

you cant do anything but shoot it while its doing that

its part of the design

a very annoying design but its intentional i imagine

[harsh egret]

thats on purpose

[fading bone]

keeps it unique from the other demons

[harsh egret]

very random and specific but does anyone happen to know where i can find the ammo icon in the files, the one that pops up at the top whenever your max ammo gets increased after killing a leader

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/lou-tenant-lieutenant-fallout-fallout-1-fallout-super-mutant-gif-5954397633907152973

huh?

[harsh egret]

i just need the raw image file of that specific icon for smth

but i fixed up smth else in the meantime lol

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-minions-popcorn-day-laugh-gif-5026739

just translated this

[fleet spruce]

dude's just mad that game isn't open for piracy so far

lmao

[harsh egret]

[fleet spruce]

cool , i got a warning for supposedly encouraging piracy

[hazy pasture]

Huh?

[harsh egret]

bruh lmao

[harsh egret]

nevermind it, some msgs were deleted, prob best to just move on :d

[fleet spruce]

yeah, was hilarious not gonna lie

[hazy pasture]

Kekw

[empty furnace]

cosmic realm secrets are amazing

[fleet spruce]

yeah

one of the reasons why it's my favorite part of the game

[crude sparrow]

I cant decide between ricochet or pincushion

feels like pincushion has really short range and is barely effective unless everyone is literally on top of eachother

it actually does damage unlike the explosion upgrade for the combat shotgun though

[empty furnace]

pincushion imo

[frail bloom]

Bruh what did you do

[fleet spruce]

Made fun of the guy who asked about that by saying he would need to wait no less than 5 years

[frail bloom]

To do what

Oh pirate

Haha you got warned

[flat elm]

Guys, I reach out Alex Palma

[frail bloom]

Ok,

What he say

[harsh egret]

[flat elm]

He said resembles of caco hybrid design with Doom 3 version is just a coincidence

[frail bloom]

Correct me if I'm wrong

But when you say Alex Palma, is that the composer, or an artist

[harsh egret]

i dont think theres a composer named alex palma

[flat elm]

Former id Software artist

[frail bloom]

There's one named Alex but I forgor his last name

Wait it was Klingle

Nvm

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/mokey-mokey-show-sr-pelo-sir-pelo-krima-gif-10248468366617945834

[hazy pasture]

Ex-id Software artist

[crude sparrow]

why would you say so?

[alpine pilot]

[harsh egret]

[flat elm]

This fact is f*ckin funny

He just wanted to make it lovecraftian only

[harsh egret]

maybe the d3 version was an inspiration still but more like subconsciously or smth lol

[flat elm]

Who knows

[fleet spruce]

probably just overlap of some design aspects, D3 demons are designed to look weird and alien in all sorts of ways

[obsidian shard]

Any Speculation when the next Update will be?

[crude sparrow]

tomorrow

[harsh egret]

i think they might add in new ripatorium presets in game soon

[crude sparrow]

maybe we'll get some clues in the next stream whenever that will be

[harsh egret]

update honestly i dont feel one coming soon but who knows

not before dlc

[foggy fable]

My guess would be a year after launch

So around May

[harsh egret]

for dlc?

[obsidian shard]

May - Release
June - Update 1
August - Update 2
November Update 3

So Update 4 could be February or whenever DLC is!
-# My speculation

[foggy fable]

Thats my guess

[fleet spruce]

It better be February before I drown in countless WADs i recently got

[harsh egret]

yeah i mean it sounds like a good time for it

[foggy fable]

Its likely to be expansion sized. Based on the price of the upgrade. Main game is 20 levels
So if assume its 10 levels. Which would require hefty dev time

[obsidian shard]

22 levels actually! 🤓 ☝️

[harsh egret]

yh so then it would be 11 levels 🤓 ☝️

[foggy fable]

Now you only get 2 dlc levels :b

And they are covered in eternals purple slime

[hazy pasture]

The goo returns...

[harsh egret]

[crude sparrow]

and theres platforming everywhere

and this time you have to do it without air control

[violet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/up-movie-dog-cute-dug-wag-tail-gif-17714771914627916588

[thin hound]

Please no, purple goo was the worst thing in Eternal

[versed quarry]

Dark Lord fight but the arena is covered in the goo

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/write-that-down-taking-notes-school-universities-university-gif-17937210

[thin hound]

I actually like pretty much everything in Eternal, from cursed prowlers to spirits, but I hate the purple goo

[harsh egret]

someone needs to mod that in

[versed quarry]

I wish lmao

[foggy fable]

Doom. The Goo Ages

[fleet spruce]

With 3 Azhraks on the side

[crude sparrow]

make a gun that shoots purple goo and slows down the demons so they get to experience it

fuck em

[harsh egret]

hollup, u cookin

[thin hound]

It’s the only thing in the entire game really that limits your mobility, which is just poor game design and a cheap way to add difficulty and challenge

[versed quarry]

Buff Totem+Spirit+goo Dark Lord fight

[flat elm]

Purple goo mortar mancubus would be insane

[harsh egret]

it can be used well but often its not. on the outside arena on arc complex is a good example of it being utilized well

[crude sparrow]

honestly the mortar mancubi in tda already kinda have that

the acid slows you down too

[thin hound]

And like was there ever a scientific reason for why it’s everywhere? It’s just so dumb

[fleet spruce]

finally, a recipe to drain life from people

[crude sparrow]

someone just spilled lean everywhere idk

[versed quarry]

This is how Nekravol works

[versed quarry]

Demonic lean

[thin hound]

The demons like grape soda, huh?

Well can’t be mad at that

[flat elm]

And possesed archviles

[versed quarry]

They summon more Dark Lords

[thin hound]

Just wait until we get access to enforcer demons in the Ripatorium

[flat elm]

Based take imo

[frail bloom]

Imo 10's a lot

I was going for maybe 8

But they're bigger

Man idk

[fleet spruce]

quite possible since they said that exploration and backtracking will have more focus

[harsh egret]

again what if levels are different this time around, remember Horde's suggestion

[frail bloom]

Idk doesn't change anything

They're still 8, just shuffled around in your order

Me have no clue

[thin hound]

I would expect around 7 because that’s the size of both parts of The Ancient Gods

[frail bloom]

Ye 6

Or above

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-and-patrick-melting-gif-25594329

THE NUMBERS

[frail bloom]

Dw

I said 6 or above

We're saved

[elder raven]

also samir are you down for that ripatorium preset idea?

[frail bloom]

Yeah

[green estuary]

tbh I'd be a bit dissapointed with 7

[frail bloom]

Idk what you want with it tho

[frail bloom]

I'd say 8 is a good middle ground

[elder raven]

5 rounds made by 5 people

[frail bloom]

No theme or anything?

Just make a round?

[thin hound]

If each of the chapters is really long though, could be enough

[flat elm]

I need the mod where dreadmace replaced with Slayer's guitar

[elder raven]

we’re deciding on whether or not there’s a theme

there might be though

[frail bloom]

I'll wait till it's decided

[frail bloom]

I'd say abt 30 min minimum just fighting

That's like arc complex and cultist base stuff

Or spire of nethrul stuff

[harsh egret]

slayer gates could also make levels slightly longer

maybe they each take about 5 mins, more or less depending on how many times u die

[frail bloom]

I hope I die quite a lot

They're the optional challenge

[harsh egret]

yh im sure they will be more challenging

[elder raven]

@frail bloom alright, we decided:

a doom 2016 themed preset. spectral slayer puts it best

“We have your Ballad of the Archdemons, which sounds dope, and I just thought about this one: The Praetor Trial - Slayer’s Reign.
Basically, as it’s the 10th Anniversary of 2016, we can put together encounters that take inspiration from the Hell levels of 2016, like Kadingir Sanctum, Necropolis, Argent D’Nur or Titan’s Realm. Before he donned the Praetor Suit, he simply ripped and tore through Hell. “None could stand before the horde, but the DOOM Slayer.” “

[green estuary]

really long chapters don't do anyone any favors

I'd hope that none of the dlc chapters are as long as spire, for example

[frail bloom]

Alr I can do smt with this

[obsidian shard]

yippie

[frail bloom]

Just one round right

[spark elm]

I might start pandemonium later this year

[frail bloom]

Pandemonium ain't hard you can prob do it in one run

[spark elm]

I may have to simplify final battle that level is touuuugh man

[elder raven]

yup; accept my friend request and ill just add you in our group that we have

[spark elm]

And same with ultra nightmare, final battle would have to be simplified again.

I just get worried about that level.

[frail bloom]

Ok send one

[elder raven]

sent

[spark elm]

UN runners, which level has been the toughest for you?

[frail bloom]

I don't see it

[elder raven]

ill resend it

[frail bloom]

Ok I did it

[spark elm]

If I’m running UN, I wouldn’t wanna 100% it all, just upgrade the weapons and collect essences.

[eager thistle]

Final battle in ultra nightmare is tight tight tight

#videos message

[thin hound]

Wow wow wow

[eager thistle]

This is when I almost threw my ultra nightmare run

[thin hound]

Wow

[strong moth]

Final battle is intense for sure

[empty furnace]

can i still get the butcher doom slayer skin

and should i get it?

[green estuary]

if you're on pc, there's a skin unlocker mod on nexus if you really want it

[slender night]

Wish I could get the rest of the skins myself, iirc I only have five left

[obsidian shard]

Which ones?

[slender night]

Ranger, Phalanx, the graphics card one, QuakeCon, and the Ripatorium 1.0 one (and Guardian, forgot about that one)

Some of the skins I have I got from the generosity of the awesome people here, particularily the controller one. Which is pretty awesome in retrospect

[obsidian shard]

Why cant you get the Ripatorium one?

[slender night]

It was time limited, it was for playing within the first week of release iirc

[obsidian shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/971218217852862544/1457519920894968008/DOOM-TDA_SlayerSkin_Vanities_16x9-Perfection-01.jpg?ex=695c4cb4&is=695afb34&hm=66607487b7c2fffda6a76fbfe9f7751dc4665e8574ddc45dfbc1e48a748eebd0&
This one?

[slender night]

Nope I have that one. I was actually looking through the list of skins and it appears I just imagined it

[obsidian shard]

oh lol

[stray nymph]

That skin is nice. Very nice nod to Warhammer 40k and the emperor's children

[brave pendant]

I just wanna say I love this game. It really tickled my armpits, ya feel?

[amber plover]

yeah i love it

[cold patio]

hellooo chat :)

[raw slate]

Yo ngl I haven't been on dark ages since ripatorium 1.0 anything new since or any news on dlc

[cold patio]

there's ripatorium 2.0 with additional features and encounters, for dlc it's this year but nobody knows when

[harsh egret]

and if u need info about the dlc
#the-dark-ages message

[cold patio]

pretty good, i didn't know that, thx tho 😀

[cold patio]

may i ask how you still have the avatar decoration from past may discord quest ?

[raw slate]

Ah thanks bro im definitely gonna hop on it soon such a peak game

[raw slate]

Preciate u boss 🫡

[warm ibex]

I'm late, but I like the idea!

[elder raven]

do you wanna be added to the group?

[empty furnace]

what if i lowkey put a bunch of komodo demons in ONE arena

[warm ibex]

sure

[elder raven]

alright, add me and ill get you in

[cold patio]

ye it's

hey horde :)

[obsidian shard]

2.0 happened and community makes crazy pre-sets

[cold patio]

last time i played a few days ago, i filled the entire slots with armored hell knights and regular hell knights, it felt like a monkey party and got cornered and died

[cold patio]

real hahaha

[cold patio]

absolutely doomed*

[fleet spruce]

The #announcements are... empty...

[raw slate]

Thats peak icl

[raw slate]

Im really hoping that they allow us to spawn more now

Imma go on tmr

[cold patio]

there're some kind of limitations when it comes to selecting how much to spawn

[raw slate]

Yeye igu

[empty furnace]

the doomslayer probably stinky asf underneath that armor

[raw slate]

Ye but he got that shit on tho

[brave pendant]

What if he wore Axe body spray

[amber plover]

is the hub like the slayer’s headquarters? if so i’m hyped

[hazy pasture]

The hub is the DLC will most likely be Kreed Maykr's ship as Slayer took it to hell in the end of the base game

[amber plover]

oh yeah

so like a similar thing to what the slayer has in eternal?

[hazy pasture]

Yeah

[amber plover]

oh yeah

hopefully we get a spot for the toys even tho they in the extra menus

[ebon apex]

Is there an event coming up they might announce the dlc at or will it likely be kinda random?

I doubt they'd wait all the way to quakecon

[foggy fable]

There’s always summer games fest that could be a possible annocunemnt day

Or an xbox or playstation direct

Or their own doom direct or something

Quakecon definitely sounds way too far out

[amber plover]

so hopefully we get dlc before 2027 right?

[obsidian shard]

basically confirmed

[amber plover]

thank god

[obsidian shard]

I'm waiting another 4 months till i start asking tho since this is 1 big DLC

(same dev length as TAG 1/2)

[amber plover]

oh yeah

[uncut needle]

is there a reason theres no crazier skins

[random sand]

Harder to pull off since Doom Slayer's model changes throughout the game

So multiple designs would have to be made for 1 skin

[obsidian shard]

4 models to be exact

[merry sapphire]

yall think we gon get that dlc trailer before 2026

[random sand]

What

[fading bone]

bro is living a week in the past

[hazy pasture]

I think he time travelled back and is now operating in and from the past

[hazy pasture]

The normal, the maykr tether, zombie and injured

[random sand]

there's also helmetless covered in blood

so 5

[frosty roost]

oh yeah resurrected slayer

[brave pendant]

Ball ball ball

Lin
Lin

[ionic glade]

Ngl, a skin of the bloody resurrected slayer would go hard

[harsh egret]

There kinda is one similar to that, the Butcher skin

[random sand]

i use that one alot. badass as hell

[grave dock]

Bought the Dark ages a couple days ago, why Siege part 1 so big like damn

[random sand]

more open levels were introduced in TDA. Siege isn't the only one

[sacred salmon]

Is the Hebeth level in tda on the same Mars planet as the Mars from 2016?

Or different solar system?

Thanks 🫡

[willow dew]

so i got an i5-4590 cpu and an rx 6500 xt gpu with 16 gb ram

is there any way that i might be able to run this game at like a stable 60 fps with like any performance mods that may exist

[void hornet]

Dude I got a similar rig and I've been trying to find a configuration preset that allowed for stable 60 fps for the whole campaign for weeks but I accomplished nothing

[harsh egret]

probably not no

[void hornet]

I tried mods but there weren't of any help either

[void hornet]

And is it normal to also run on fps dips with a I5-12400F CPU and a rtx 3060?

[proven dune]

Hebeth is shown to have the Valles Marineris canyon, and so does mars in 2016, So I’d say yes it is the same planet

[harsh egret]

no clue, u can look up benchmarks on youtube and stuff and see how it performs for other ppl

[rapid lotus]

prediction: DLC to be released on March 12, 2026

imagine I'm right 👀

Indiana jones got 10 month to have it"s dlc and it release a thrusday. I'll take the bet.

[crude sparrow]

I mean we already go back to hebeth in eternal and it's the same mars there so I think the answer was kinda obvious

[willow dew]

unfortunate, seems like this will be the only doom game i wont be able to play then

i love forced rt!!

[harsh egret]

i mean tbf u do have a pretty old system, a very budget gpu and a VERY old cpu

[willow dew]

it still runs most games fine, like eternal runs pretty smoothly

[harsh egret]

define "pretty smoothly"

[willow dew]

60 fps atleast

[harsh egret]

on what graphics settings

[willow dew]

i do play with vsync on most games so i dont know how much more im getting

[harsh egret]

hm

[grave dock]

Laughs in only 30fps on my pc

[void hornet]

that's a bummer man

I'm trying using fsr frame generation but it gives me 120 fps and I only want 60 since my monitor is 60hz, so far I can't find a way of doing it

[fading bone]

time to upgrade the monitor!

[void hornet]

I can't afford to

[harsh egret]

i mean 120 fps on a 60 hz monitor is still gonna feel better than 60 fps on 60hz

[void hornet]

isn't there a way of capping the fsr?

[harsh egret]

unless fsr just sucks ass but i have no idea

[harsh egret]

doesnt just normally capping ur fps work with fsr and framegen?

[void hornet]

but isn't it gonna cause constant screen tearing? at least that's what I see

[harsh egret]

no clue ive not had a 60hz monitor in ages and when i did i also had a shit computer

[void hornet]

no, even with vsync on and refresh rate set to 60, if frame gen is on the game still gives me 120 fps

[harsh egret]

or maybe its fsr itself that causes screen tearing

imma test myself actually lol

[void hornet]

ok thanks, let me know what you find

[harsh egret]

idk, no screen tearing for me

[sacred salmon]

so if the demons already attacked hebeth all those years ago, why wait so long to branch out to earth or even wait for the mars invasion in 2016?

sentinels fought them off and were succesful in closing a portal of sorts for good till the uac started doing their thing?

[thin hound]

They only attacked Mars again because the UAC reopened the portal and it was in 2149

[sacred salmon]

do we see when the portal was closed?

or even know how and when?

[wintry forge]

It’s a minor plothole imo. The Sentinels lost the war and Hell conquered Argent D’Nur, so you’d think Earth and Hebeth (Mars) would’ve been consumed too. Hell has always been known to consume countless worlds, so idk why they made an exception.
Unless another prequel story explains why, it’s unclear

It’s stuff like this that really makes me hope that Argent D’Nur is in a separate dimension. It’s still unclear and could work as either the same dimension as Earth’s, or as Argent D’Nur being located in a separate dimension.
There’s evidence on both sides of that argument, but this, to me, adds onto the side of Argent D’Nur existing in a separate dimension

[crude sparrow]

Well in eternal we have to blow a hole in mars to even access hebeth, so maybe the sentinels destroyed it and it's surroundings to bury it and trap the remaining demons inside so they can't escape to the rest of mars

Maybe?

[fleet spruce]

I honestly doubt that it's in the same dimension as Doomguy's original earth

[wintry forge]

Nah, not as Doomguy’s original Earth, I mean the Earth/ Mars from Eternal/2016

I like the idea of there being a dimensional tear of sorts, that the Sentinels discovered, allowing them to pass through. Maybe it got destroyed/ closed over time, maybe it didn’t. But regardless, it was invisible to Earth’s solar system so it was never noticed

[wintry forge]

Idk, I mean I think Hell works in a way where all of Hell would know that Earth and Hebeth still exist, even if some demons were trapped there

[frank whale]

m

[crude sparrow]

Don't they need someone to open a portal for them?

[wintry forge]

Who?

[crude sparrow]

Would be kinda difficult if, y'know... There's no one on mars to do it

[crude sparrow]

Hell

[wintry forge]

I don’t think so, no

It depends, it’s kinda vague. Worlds unknown to them, yes

So unless somehow Urdak/ the Sentinels sealed it off from them somehow, I don’t think so

It’s always been kinda vague in the lore. They didn’t need access to Argent D’Nur, they just followed Doomguy some time after he landed there

[crude sparrow]

Even in 2016, hell couldn't invade mars until they coerced Olivia to open the portal for them

[void hornet]

What's your monitor's refresh rate?

[wintry forge]

Regardless, Urdak gave them access to countless worlds before/during the Betrayal. The Kahn made the deal with Hell for the flow of Argent at the exchange of access to other worlds. So regardless, Earth would have still been vulnerable

[crude sparrow]

Well yeah but because of plot convenience the khan only pointed hell to earth in eternal

[harsh egret]

360

[crude sparrow]

And prior to 2016 I don't think there was a reason for hell to invade mars since there was pretty much no-one on it

[crude sparrow]

Can you even run tda at 360 fps 😭

[harsh egret]

no but it still feels better than lower hz

[sacred salmon]

Yep, love your vids man, keep it up 🙏

[harsh egret]

and i usually play competitive fps games, not as much anymore as i used to but still

and there i get 300-400+

[crude sparrow]

I got 144hz, I can get that easily with quality dlss but once I enable DLAA it goes down to like 120 with dips to 90 in heavy combat

[harsh egret]

yh i get about 140 with dlss q

but after playing on 360hz for years, i cant really go back lol, not even to 240hz

[wintry forge]

Literally 😂

[wintry forge]

If the Sentinels colonized Earth and Hebeth, then I bet there were still some colonies there tbh. Probably just a plot convenience thing

[wintry forge]

Thanks man, I appreciate it!

[sacred salmon]

The way I look at it, Hebeth opens a portal to argent dnur, which is in another dimension/system with the city of Hebeth acting as a tranfer facility of sorts (albeit grander scale) (this lines up with what we see of it in eternal as well)

But yeah hell should've known about 2016's solar system even after this understanding and setup, so idk. Maybe we'll see the sentinels win to a certain degree and ensure Hebeth was shutdown in favour of protecting the greater entity (ie. The solar system)

[crude sparrow]

They already destroyed aratum to protect the heart of argent in tda so I could see them doing something like that again

[wintry forge]

My only real issue with the whole “dimension” debate is how would the Sentinels have discovered Hebeth on their own? So it’s hard to say

[wintry forge]

I think we need to see sentinels do something to protect that realm. With Mars and earth

[sacred salmon]

Wraiths led them there maybe? But why?

[fleet spruce]

weren't they naturally exploring and colonizing space with all the cool tech they got

[obsidian shard]

Maykrs are tech gods (literally) they gave them technology to do exploration and all that

[crude sparrow]

I like how the sentinels have all this super advanced tech but everything is still medieval looking because ✨tradition ✨

[sacred salmon]

Ancient Indian Hindu warriors used to fight till the very end and when absolute defeat was evident, kingdoms would resort to destroying remaining low resources and "jauhar" (although the later is slightly different, but because of "demonic" behaviour of the invaders nonetheless)

Almost every warrior code follows the rule

What I find interesting is the Slayer has the orange patch already, so he's been accepted into the ranks already?

But he is still being treated as an outsider WMD? That is something I wish they cleared a bit more as well

[crude sparrow]

It is said that the night sentinels along with doomguy who got stranded in hell fought until the very end too

[crude sparrow]

I think they're just being racist tbh

Or xenophobic or whatever that's called

[sacred salmon]

🤣 valen seems chill

[wintry forge]

It’s a possibility. I think the codexes imply that the Maykrs found them in their time of need after the Wraiths disappeared

[crude sparrow]

Valen was really chill fr

[sacred salmon]

Hmm so did the maykrs help the sentinels setup Hebeth or was it the wraiths?

[warm ibex]

I currently don't have the time to read the entire conversation so this may have been mentioned, but perhaps the demons were driven off of Hebeth during the time where the Sentinels were seemingly more successful prior to the start of the Civil War

[wintry forge]

@warm ibex I do like this idea, but with the Demons’ knowledge and access to other worlds (as granted to Hell by the Kahn when she struck a deal with Hell) I feel like Hell would’ve conquered Hebeth and Earth as well. They likely had sentinel inhabitants, so I don’t see why Hell wouldn’t have come back around then or any time at all before Doom 2016

[twilit stone]

what if Hell just forgot lol

[wintry forge]

It was the Maykr technology that they gave them

[wintry forge]

Duffer brothers?

[crude sparrow]

But actually I think they accepted him into their ranks because he was simply strong. He saved taras nabad so he clearly proved himself useful. What I think they didn't like was that the maykrs would grant an outsider with the powers of the divinity machine just like that

[void hornet]

Hey so if for example I have a 120hz and I'm running a game at 60fps, would it be different than running it on a lower Hz monitor? Because if not then I might as well buy a 120hz monitor

[sacred salmon]

Doomguy induced concussion lol 💀

[sacred salmon]

Will look into it, will load up my 2016 100% save sometime this week and just read through man it's so relaxing for some reason, specially with the Mars level music in the background when you open the codex entries and it all gets muffled

[wintry forge]

If this is the case, or if the Sentinels somehow sealed Hell off from Mars/Hebeth and Earth, then id like to see this happen tbh

[sacred salmon]

Same. Good discussion fellas 🙏 excited for the DLC 🤘

[crude sparrow]

Dlc dropping in 2 minutes 🤞

[void hornet]

.

[wintry forge]

Therapeutic 😂 yeah the obscure sentinel lore in 2016 is great

[crude sparrow]

There might be a very minor difference but barely noticable imo since you're still running it at 60fps. Tbh if you're having trouble getting 60 consistently I don't see a reason to buy a higher hz monitor

[heady trout]

his son is quite an icon

[void hornet]

it's so I can use fsr frame gen and get to 120 fps without screen tearing

[crude sparrow]

It would definitely be useful for other games where you can get those frames but exclusively for tda no

[twilit stone]

https://tenor.com/view/wheeze-laugh-gif-14359545

ur so funny

[void hornet]

I would cap the fps of fsr but nothing works

[crude sparrow]

I don't remember the last time I had to deal with screen tearing so I can't help you there unfortunately :/

[void hornet]

it's ok, thanks for the help anyways

[crude sparrow]

Sucks that PC parts are also REALLY expensive now

That shit literally has to be price gouging atp because like wdym you're raising the price of the 5090 from 2k to 5k ????

[void hornet]

the industry is completely cooked 🥲

[warm ibex]

I think some sort of seal is the best explanation. it would explain why Earth and Hebeth are untouched for so long while demons presumably never leave argent d'nur after the initial invasion

[crude sparrow]

ASUS gave me a little bit of hope but then they came out saying it's not true 😭

[crude sparrow]

Btw kinda unrelated to this I think but do you think we'll see the gargoyles sometime in the near future?

Not really sure why they weren't present in tda at all

[fleet spruce]

Hope? In this age of darkness?

[warm ibex]

I'd say gargoyles and prowlers will both appear in the next game (assuming they aren't in the dlc)

[obsidian shard]

Ram went up by double in 2 months

[warm ibex]

kinda funny that they're two of the only demons to not return from Eternal despite being two of the only demons confirmed to fight against the sentinels on argent d'nur

[obsidian shard]

Please let em,

[crude sparrow]

I think the prowlers got replaced by the nightmare imps in this one, but gargoyles really just have no excuse except maybe id thought that a flying fodder enemy wouldn't be fun to fight in tda

Which is fair I guess but at least show them in a couple cutscenes or like have them be flying around in the skybox like the dragons

[warm ibex]

that's why you turn the gargoyles into heavy demons 👀

[fleet spruce]

buffgoyles

[crude sparrow]

He cookin

[obsidian shard]

That's would be terrifying

[crude sparrow]

Just give hell knights wings and call it a day 🥀

[warm ibex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892238793174818848/1457761464629854351/a3497497735_16.png?ex=695d2da9&is=695bdc29&hm=4e22882bab9c23c62d1848b311f8fa2de7e6181762a95f64cb7828b90a7cbf01

type shit

[wintry forge]

Gargoyles would be perfect for the medieval vibes. Idk why they didn’t make the cut

[slender night]

Would be a cool throwback to Heretic/Hexen too

[raw slate]

Yeah that's what I'm saying man

I feel like it gave more variety with the fodder demons

[warm ibex]

on the topic of more fodder variety, I hope they add the maykr drones to the ripatorium at some point

[obsidian shard]

Ripatorium 3.0!!! PLEASE

[wintry forge]

How did we all literally forget the Maykr drones

Unless it’s just me 🤡

[flat elm]

I want maggots back so bad

[void hornet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeqIIXTQAfU

How does this guy get 67 fps of minimum? is it because of his CPU or his hz?

[obsidian shard]

Possibly

[void hornet]

you mean the cpu or the monitor?

[raw slate]

They should bring back all the doom 3 fodder enemies I'd like to see how they'd make the new designs

[harsh egret]

Ive already told u many times, ita probably some other issue with ur pc man.

[hazy pasture]

Bruiser must make a comeback

[harsh egret]

I know ur specs should play the game just fine but idk what else to tell u lol

And ur frames dont dip because of ur monitor

[void hornet]

It's just that I've been trying everything and nothing works man

Like I said the game runs fine most of the time (meaning 60 fps), but it has many dips in certain areas

[harsh egret]

Idk man.

Maybe ur storage is slow or its full or smth idk

And idk why it doesnt let u turn on xmp either

[void hornet]

Wait I just looked at it and it does have not much space left

[harsh egret]

How much

[void hornet]

46 gb left, but I remember the game also having dips when the drive had 198 gb of free space

[warm ibex]

I never forgot!

I think they'd add some nice variety to the ripatorium as medium-priority fodder that spawn/attack in groups instead of being spread out

[hazy pasture]

From this I remembered I wanna fight the Maykr priests in TDA 2

We'll most likely fight a lotta maykrs too then

[warm ibex]

should have the three new ripatorium encounters released tomorrow around noon est

and then they'll release ripatorium 3.0 next week with new enemies out of spite

[meager vortex]

ripatorium3.0?!

[warm ibex]

I'd imagine it'll come eventually

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-ares-destroy-my-enemies-and-my-life-is-yours-gif-7965707800203237625

[patent hawk]

Will multiplayer ever get added to TDA?

[meager vortex]

never

[green estuary]

HUGO
GIVE ME A DLC TRAILER AT THE DEV DIRECT AND MY LIFE MONEY IS YOURS

[meager vortex]

because single player based game

[patent hawk]

So was Eternal lol

[wintry forge]

Incidentally, I do hope that not only do we get Maykr drones back for Ripatoriun, but I also hope somehow we get more Maykr stuff in the DLC, aside from the potential Maykr ship as the hub. We can’t go to Urdak, or necessarily have a Maykr antagonist at this point, but hopefully they come up with something

[warm ibex]

ahzrak did possess that maykr drone in the campaign

so I suppose there's always the chance we get to fight posessed maykrs

[wintry forge]

Write that down write that down

Just location-wise I don’t see much possibility. Id was clever with the Maykr ship as an excuse for more Maykr storylines and environments. I’m sure we’ll get something.

The Sentinels commonly communicate with them, even the Kahn, so I wonder if we’ll see that in action finally

[warm ibex]

kahn surprise appearance in the dlc maybe

[warm ibex]

eternal was a single player game with a prominent online element. TDA is just a single player game lol

[wintry forge]

I do expect a Samur appearance

He’s a rebel at this point and disappeared from Urdak, so it’s possible. Darin is in the cast as we all know so

[empty furnace]

cerberus

[harsh egret]

that is 100% ai

at least the komodo lol

his canon is on his arm whereas his arm is on the other side, and the tail looks hella weird lol

and the symbols on the arm and spear are a lil different

[green estuary]

fucking dammit

Here was me hoping someone was just really good with photoshop

[obsidian shard]

I was gonna say at least the "Sly Dog Cerberus" Part is

[harsh egret]

yeah that might too tbh

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-the-dark-ages-demon-komodo-komodo-dragon-gif-2303012859308141566

[green estuary]

Ah yeah
His chain sword is only supposed to have three symbols on it

[harsh egret]

and the turret looks a bit off lol

[green estuary]

A three headed Komodo AI would still go stupid hard though

[obsidian shard]

I did a Photoshop of hugo giving him 2 hands

[green estuary]

Wdym

[obsidian shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1400344876326850584/1457799125549449351/Untitled_design_12.png?ex=695d50bc&is=695bff3c&hm=add1cae9d1c411d9b55fe521ec3f0ae31c3f6ee867ad14bca59e58baa5adaa35&

[green estuary]

Ah lol

[harsh egret]

lmao

[fleet spruce]

the night before DLC launch...

[obsidian shard]

i gotta make one for that now

I got "The Night before Slayer's Club Live with Hugo Martin"

[hazy pasture]

A "The Night before the DLC reveal" would be nice too

[fleet spruce]

Thank you for the funny images dude 👍

[harsh egret]

fire ripatorium trailer bro

gonna play it tmr

[obsidian shard]

Thank you goat!

[versed quarry]

Implying Hugo doesn't already have two hands

[obsidian shard]

We've only seen them like twice, they could be fake

[main wagon]

i liked the chainsaw shield

[versed quarry]

Two handed Hugo truther

Wait

[obsidian shard]

The Shield Saw replica is so peak

[obsidian shard]

Hugo Hand in DLC?

[versed quarry]

That's why all the weapons in The Dark Ages can be fired one-handed, Hugo only has one hand

[obsidian shard]

"Give us a hand"

[main wagon]

i like how you can buy almost anything on temu or amazon

[obsidian shard]

REAL

[main wagon]

i saw a whole doom slayer armor set on temu

[raven heart]

where can i get one????? asking for a friend

[main wagon]

temu or amazon

i like how doom is one of the best and funniest FPS games out there but its been here for 32 damn years

well anyways im gonna go play doom

[unkempt dragon]

Telling members to get Doom merch on Temu or Amazon is crazy

[main wagon]

the fact you can get a doom helmet for 70 on amazon is insane

[wide siren]

lol, happy to see my ripatorium encounter naming is living on

[obsidian shard]

Rolls off the tongue nicely

It's why all my pre-sets are alliteration's

You could call me the
"Acolyte of Alliteration"

[warm ibex]

where'd you post your trailer? I'll have to watch that

[fleet spruce]

what's next , Acolyte Apocalypse?

[obsidian shard]

YouTube, Reddit, Twitter (it's also on the Ripatorium chat for Ahzrak's Abyss)

[slender night]

How about Breaking Bad? Sounds unique

[wide siren]

acolytes already got their apocalypse, hugo removed them from the game, haven’t you heard

[obsidian shard]

Nightmare imps are next ...

But leave the stone imps alone 😭 they are my parryable Missiles

[wide siren]

banger trailer! i need to get back to tda, been having a bit of a break

[wide siren]

hugo knows no mercy

[ebon apex]

Anyone find the glitch that lets you get 1-2 dreadmace charges per parry?

Or is this new tech lol

[obsidian shard]

Isn't that the final Dreadmace upgrade tho

[ebon apex]

No I mean with 1 parry

Empty to full

[fleet spruce]

recreate the conditions for it

[ebon apex]

I can do it reliably

Its easiest with the parryable projectiles

Put on like the fully upgraded gauntlets and parry a hell surge attack, then immediately after the attack hits the enemy swap to dreadmace

Should work with flail too but less well

The melee charge is created when they projectile hits the enemy and its a physical ammo drop like the yellow ammo from punching

And basically you generate a full ammo drop from flail and 2 from upgraded gauntlets

So you make the melee refill with the weaker weapon and then put it into dreadmace where it still fills the whole thing

[fleet spruce]

interesting

[obsidian shard]

Ohh damn

[frail bloom]

I did

Only me and Katsu know abt it

[warm ibex]

they've been gatekeeping for months lol

[frail bloom]

Since no one else cared

No bruh I kept telling everyone but no one cared

But here we are now

[wide siren]

dreadmace 2.0

[warm ibex]

hadn't seen a message about it prior or since

[wide siren]

now with double the mace

[frail bloom]

Ok well now y'all know

Do with it what you will

Easy to get yourself killed with it

[ebon apex]

Lets see hugo try and remove all my charges on every single swap now 😈

Its so weird the melee recharge is a physical object at all

[frail bloom]

Oh idk how it works

I just spammed the melee switch day one till I noticed the bug

Then I "gatekept" it since then

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-smart-memes-goofy-ahh-pictures-mocky-mickey-mouse-gif-6052056891329733168

[warm ibex]

lame behavior

[frail bloom]

I tried

I still got the messages from when I discovered it

And being ignored

[ebon apex]

Noticed because I play on steam deck often and the low frame rate means somwtime the charge will kind of orbit you without you being able to collect them lol

[warm ibex]

that's kinda funny lol

[wide siren]

you guys delayed the dlc another couple of months now that hugo has more bugs to fix

[frail bloom]

More time for them to cook

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-gif-502627409480164820

[warm ibex]

trailer was awesome man!

[obsidian shard]

Thank you Horde 🥹

[supple oracle]

Power Surge maxxing preset coming soon

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/kang-the-conqueror-kang-variants-many-kangs-multiple-kangs-kangs-cheering-gif-13082239200333412930

[supple oracle]

Let see how people good, playing with a Frisbee

[ebon apex]

Hope they dont patch the melee thing.
There was this glitch they left in eternal where you could farm armor off heavies using the unmaykr and that was a lot of fun to play around with

[frail bloom]

Been months and no change yet

[obsidian shard]

HYPE

[empty furnace]

is there a gold chest on the ship in harbor of souls?

nvm

[hazy pasture]

Holy Cow

[empty furnace]

yay i got every gun mastery

[mossy rock]

Am I able to stream doom the dark ages on cloud gaming on the Xbox one

[supple oracle]

I post my preset, feedback will be good

[alpine pilot]

where doom

[warm ibex]

hell yeah man, I'll give it a try when I can

[fading osprey]

so, since i dont bother going on youtube, i didnt realize you had a channel. soooo yeah. hi

dont blame me i dont do that alot

[empty furnace]

should i get the butcher skin?

is it worth signing in to my bethesda account?

[warm ibex]

is it still available? if so then yeah, absolutely

[crude sparrow]

"no one else cared"

You refused to tell me when I asked about it 😭

[frail bloom]

No

[crude sparrow]

Yes

[rose cargo]

how hard is dark ages UN

[crude sparrow]

Depends how hard you make it

Tbf the only gripe I have with it is the length of the game

[rose cargo]

it does feel a bit long

but i think the length is OKAY, compared to at least eternal it felt like a slog even though its faster

[crude sparrow]

I like that the game is longer don't get me wrong just when doing a UN run having to replay the entire game every time you die gets a little annoying

In eternal once you got past cultist base the game was a breeze

You can beat most of the levels in like 20 minutes each if you know what you're doing

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/bernie-kropp-bernie-the-incredibles-theres-a-tack-gif-6465619827017573809

[rose cargo]

my UN has like, 150% player damage, 175% demon damage, almost max enemy aggression, parry window at near max and some slightly increased other modifiers

that i’m gonna start with

[crude sparrow]

I just play with the default sliders and the speed increased to 130%

Don't really feel like I need to change anything

Tbh if you really want just the skin and don't care about the bragging rights you could set damage to player to 50% and damage to demons to 1000% and just completely cheese the run

[rose cargo]

i did what i sent earlier

[crude sparrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1029722699943124992/1457892446938595419/Screenshot_2026-01-06-01-09-47-23_572064f74bd5f9fa804b05334aa4f912.jpg?ex=695da7a5&is=695c5625&hm=c52c95520c43dc52fe235f19f82ea95a9e1d00f11a4b82adff7234e3f7fb697e&

So evil

[meager vortex]

[green estuary]

the gist of it is that when you parry an attack, the attack's source (the enemy AI) drops melee ammo
that melee ammo, like normal ammo, has to physically jump from the enemy to the slayer

if you switch melee weapons during that period, you'll receive a single charge for whatever melee weapon that you're switching to
so for example, if you switch to the dreadmace from the gauntlets, you can get a full dreadmace charge after pretty much every parry

[frail bloom]

Ah, so you see through my mask

https://tenor.com/view/brain-gif-22265960

[warm ibex]

bro tried to play victim 😭

[frail bloom]

Society makes villains like me

Saleem made a new preset

"Metal Hell"

[obsidian shard]

AND ITS PEAK, each round feels different but fits the Pre-set perfectly

[frail bloom]

I haven't played it yet but I will

[warm ibex]

I've been getting promo stuff for my presets finished up for tomorrow, I'll have to give his a try later

[obsidian shard]

Hype

[versed stone]

I did some stress testing in Dark Ages to see if I could get a good framerate. Best I got without using Lossless Scaling frame gen was 102.

I had DLSS on balanced, and had almost all handheld settings, except for the reflections which I turned off.

With LSFG, I was able to go as high as 138 FPS, using the same settings.

Overall, the test was successful. I got at least above 90 FPS, on just an RTX 3060.

[frail bloom]

I have no idea if that's good or bad

But excellent findings

[rose cargo]

isnt TDA unplayable on handhelds

are they ever gonna yk, optimize TDA like they did eternal

would be nice if I could play on my ally on linux, for a fun blind pc UN run

[green estuary]

eternal ain't better optimized, it just has worse graphics and lower requirements

[rose cargo]

i mean tda runs worse than eternal does, substantially worse

TDA has forced RT, when I played eternal on my pc i was able to play at my refresh rate

which was 180

[green estuary]

sure, but just bear with me a second here
what graphics card are you using

[rose cargo]

my pc if i still had it, wouldn't even be able to run TDA

bc RT i think was 20 series and newer iirc

[warm ibex]

why does that make the game unoptimized though?

optimized doesn't mean "made for people without rt capable cards"

[rose cargo]

that is not what i meant

[frail bloom]

I think they meant it's just less accessible

[warm ibex]

that also doesn't mean that it's less optimized

but is a true statement

[frail bloom]

No ik

[rose cargo]

requiring RT does make it less accessible, and i don't think I can even play it on my handheld

[frail bloom]

But sometimes ppl confuse the two

[rose cargo]

i don't think its horribly optimized, but i also, can't really tell and if the game can't launch on a non RT card then i also just can't play regardless 🤷

[frail bloom]

Idk how to explain it really

[warm ibex]

nah I get u man

[rose cargo]

i wanted tda for pc, but if i can't play it smoothly then i can't tell myself 'this game would be worth it'

[green estuary]

a good way to think about it is however old your graphics card is now, try using a graphics card of a similar age/class to play eternal when it launched

and then compare

[frail bloom]

Well isn't the difference the price

[green estuary]

I'm talking performance

[rose cargo]

i can't exactly test that

my pc is long gone

i also dont own it on steam yet

[warm ibex]

also worth mentioning that it's now steam deck verified and supposedly runs well, so might be worth a try if you have a comparable handheld

[green estuary]

it's like
however well TDA runs on a 3060 (released in 2021), did eternal run better or worse on a 1060 (released in 2016)'

[rose cargo]

i think the 3060 gets barely 60 on medium, not sure dont quote me on that

[crude sparrow]

Eternal ran fine for me on a 1050 back in like 2021

I played on high settings I think, got around 90-120 fps if I remember correctly and I remember the sounds stuttering when there was a lot happening at once

But frame rates wouldn't really drop that much

Then I got a 2060 and everything ran perfect on ultra nightmare settings

[frail bloom]

Hmmmm

Interesting

[green estuary]

eternal runs at like 40 fps on a good day on a 1050 lmao

[crude sparrow]

I really remember it running well

[green estuary]

if you enable dlss you might get 60ish

[crude sparrow]

1050 didn't even have dlss I'm pretty sure

And I certainly didn't know what it even did back then

[green estuary]

eh not dlss, dynamic resolution

[crude sparrow]

I had that on adaptive I think

[green estuary]

this guy's getting 60ish playing with dynamic res 1080p low
which is still pretty impressive for a 1050 ngl, but nothing absurd

[foggy fable]

Eternal is a last gen game
Tda is a current gen game

Current gen games = more power needed to run = less frames

[green estuary]

(not gonna send the link cuz it won't allow me)

[foggy fable]

If anything TDA is very very well optimized

[green estuary]

if we compare GPU generations, I'd say TDA is a bit worse off than eternal in the performance department

but not a whole lot

[crude sparrow]

I only remember 2 problems I had with the performance:

1. The game literally refused to start the campaign with chromatic aberration on for some reason
2. The sounds stuttering and cutting in and out when there was a lot happening

Otherwise it ran fine

[foggy fable]

Hits 60fps on Xbox series S. Which is pretty huge

[green estuary]

I get essentially a locked 60+ fps on a laptop 4060 at 1080p high

which I'll take any day of the week

[crude sparrow]

That "laptop" variant really makes that much of a difference huh

Crazy

[green estuary]

yeah it's pretty neutered compared to a desktop 4060

sadge

[foggy fable]

Once it gets ported to switch 2 there’s a high chance I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s actually 60fps

Might be 30fps just for the battery life if anything. But could totally do 60

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/megamind-gif-23880338

there is no tda switch port

[crude sparrow]

60 fps when docked maybe? (Idk how the switch works really)

[foggy fable]

Docked “adds power” but for visuals not fps

The fps is same for handheld and docked

[crude sparrow]

Either way, even for a last gen game eternal is really well optimized compared to other last gen games

[foggy fable]

So say 1080p 60 handheld
1440p 60 docked

Oh eternal is super welll optimized. BUT it is arena based

It doesnt try to load much outside of each arena which helps the performance

[crude sparrow]

The "high" enemy count and shit ton of particles kinda balance it out no?

[foggy fable]

Not really

[crude sparrow]

+it also has ray tracing if you want

[green estuary]

id tech 7 has always been a masterpiece of optimization tbh

[foggy fable]

It’s not too high an enemy count and the projectiles don’t need to do all too much. Especially when compared to TDA

[crude sparrow]

I remember if you shoot at a frozen demon with the unmaykr your frame rate would tank

[green estuary]

dude the ice bomb would destroy your frames

[foggy fable]

The bitrate just dies

[green estuary]

like literally cut them into fourths

[foggy fable]

Gone reduced to atoms

You could say it freezes your frames

[crude sparrow]

As an added bonus it also freezes your PC

Fuck you beat me to it

[foggy fable]

Yay victory

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/sacha-baron-cohen-great-success-yay-gif-4185058

[crude sparrow]

But like some last gen games I can't even reliably hit 144fps with my current GPU meanwhile I can get 400+ frames in eternal

[green estuary]

id tech man
shit's built different

if only GPU technology would advance as far in the next 5 years as it did in the previous 5

[crude sparrow]

I've also been avoiding a lot of current gen AAA games like the plague because most of them are very poorly optimized but tda runs just fine

[green estuary]

me when warhammer boltgun literally looks like it was made in the 90s but it still manages to crash 8 times in 2 hours of playing it

[crude sparrow]

I'd like if I could play with DLAA at 144fps but it's not the end of the world

[versed quarry]

It WHAT

[green estuary]

yeah I refunded that shit

only game I've ever owned that crashes like that
and I own multiple early access titles

[foggy fable]

I’ve never crashed on it

[green estuary]

yeah I dunno what was up with it

[rose cargo]

didn't crash at all for me

and I was playing on a handheld kekw

[green estuary]

but the worst part was that it reset all my key binds every time it crashed

I didn't bother changing my drivers, because they were all up to date and all the other games I own ran fine on them

[obsidian shard]

Can't forget those Loading times

Those are a marvel within itself

Also hi guys

[harsh egret]

hola

[foggy jasper]

Nevermind I was thinking of a different game

[green estuary]

yk I have a problem that I buy games for really cheap on sale
and then I still play my favorite games instead of them lmao

[green estuary]

wassup dawg

[harsh egret]

i bought 2 games yesterday and they are prob gonna sit in my backlog for months

[foggy jasper]

Steam sales in a nutshell

[green estuary]

SAME

[harsh egret]

alongside like 2 others i bought this sale

alongside like 2 other games i bought during the summer sale LOL

[crude sparrow]

I literally spent like 100 bucks on games this winter sale 😭

[green estuary]

just bought metal eden and I lowk want to start playing eternal again lmao

[harsh egret]

metal eden was pretty fun

[green estuary]

I spent like 40ish

[harsh egret]

i played it on launch, maybe its got some updates since

[foggy jasper]

I have like 30 unplayed games because I just play BF6

💀

[crude sparrow]

Also I remember I bought nier automata like 3 years ago and never even launched it once 💀

[harsh egret]

i got trepang 2, dead space remake, ultrakill, amid evil, metro exodus
all just collecting dust in my library

[foggy jasper]

You just named 3 of my favorite games

Trepang2, Dead Space Remake and Ultrakill are all amazing

[green estuary]

I lowk feel bad about ultrakill
because I played through pretty much all of it but I couldn't get into it

[foggy jasper]

It's not for everyone for sure, I had a blast playing through it though

Trepang2 is a 10/10 masterpiece easily

[obsidian shard]

Join my steam family library

[green estuary]

oh yeah

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/monsters-vs-aliens-i-may-not-have-a-brain-gentlemen-but-i-have-an-idea-jelly-i-may-not-have-a-brain-i-have-an-idea-gif-16097667901967257851

[crude sparrow]

Ooh I also got the dead space remake literally today

[green estuary]

I lowk need to get my little brother to actually contribute to the steam library lol
because rn it's just me

[crude sparrow]

Also ultrakill is peak

[harsh egret]

should probably go to general for this

[green estuary]

nah, tda can be bought on steam
hence we're actually on topic

[harsh egret]

true

[crude sparrow]

So true

Mods can't do anything to us now

[foggy jasper]

You've got some high quality gaming ahead