the-dark-ages

[frail bloom]

Depends

[foggy fable]

The roe expansion fixes pretty much every issue of the base game

[wintry forge]

That’s facts honestly. I’ve always felt this way

[manic arch]

You’re opinion of Doom 3 is now written in stone. So no.

[wintry forge]

Ngl I like the bfg actually

[wintry forge]

Great, I ruined my name

[foggy fable]

Roe fixes it. And then lost mission is a super fun hour long nonstop gunning fest

[frail bloom]

I don't hate Doom 3 alr

(I love it to death and honestly Katsu it sweeps that 2016 slop)

[manic arch]

Doom 3 still has the single best demon design with Maledict

[wintry forge]

I appreciate what it is, Id be lying if I said I didn’t put probably hundreds of hours into it throughout my life

[frail bloom]

I like how Dark ages referenced Doom 3

With the Vagary

[manic arch]

I hope the Doom 3 mancubis return as cosmic Mancubis in TDA’s dlc

[wintry forge]

lol when I was little I thought he was supposed to be a full-body icon of sin

[frail bloom]

When's the last time a Doom 3 enemy was referenced?

[wintry forge]

Vagary

[frail bloom]

We need more doom 3 enemies

[frail bloom]

Besides the vagary

[wintry forge]

Hell knight

[frail bloom]

Besides the hell knight

[manic arch]

I still think Maledict can come back in TDA’s dlc

He can be the final arch demon or whatever

[wintry forge]

Pinky rider is back on all 4’s like doom 3’s

That one’s a hella stretch

[frail bloom]

Hmmmm that's coincidence

[wintry forge]

And untrue

[frail bloom]

Bruh have him be serrat

Kill yo dead dragon against your will

Kill your buddy

Trauma

[manic arch]

That wouldn’t make sense 😭

[wintry forge]

I still think there’s only gonna be one archdemon in the dlc, if we actually “fight” them at all

[frail bloom]

Ok ok he wouldn't be maledict but he's a maledict stand in

Cuz he's a dragon

[manic arch]

TDA is primed for Doom 3 and 64 stuff

[frail bloom]

Because honestly maledicts origin is buns

Big boy betruger wants to glaze hell so he becomes a tier 3 sub

Tell me I'm wrong

[manic arch]

If you want me to then you’re wrong

[frail bloom]

No I ain't

[manic arch]

He was a tier 8 sub

[frail bloom]

Nvm bro you cooked my statement

[manic arch]

Actually no, he was a collab while Olivia was a tier 8 sub

[frail bloom]

Olivia was going through it

Level 300 scoliosis

[wintry forge]

Betruger and Olivia are married in Hell

Canon

[manic arch]

Mr Evil Science was just given a role while Olivia was fooled

[frail bloom]

Just in constant pain

[wintry forge]

lol maybe that was what led to her deals with the demons

[frail bloom]

It is

She wanted it to stop

[wintry forge]

I think it was definitely meant to. Her frustrations in life

[frail bloom]

And samuel is surprised she gave in

Bro's an idiot

[manic arch]

She literally lived in a super science space community and still gave in to the demons

[frail bloom]

Dr sam is one of the dumbest doom characters alive

[wintry forge]

I mean it’s not for certain, but stuff like that in general led her down that path no doubt

[manic arch]

No he IS the dumbest and the whiniest

[frail bloom]

For sure

[frail bloom]

And yet health treatment is still too expensive🥀

[manic arch]

I fucking hate Sammy boy “Please Slayer I need this, your planets kind of doooooomed”

Like I’m sure he could have made the world run offa corn with the time he’s had

[frail bloom]

"Yuck. Argent energy. Not like I had millions die just to preserve it in the last game"

[manic arch]

And then he turns into the worst boss in series history

[frail bloom]

F tier character he sucks

[manic arch]

I’m Samuel Hate’n his ass

But he plays the role of savior who has no idea what he’s doing really well

[wintry forge]

This better be a “doom 3 is the best” situation

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-gif-502627409480164820

[merry sapphire]

do you guys think the dlc trailer will drop before 2026

[short acorn]

i just bought the dark ages and its downloading rn. will it run on my pc? gt 710, core i3 4th gen, 4gb ram and 405gb hdd

[wintry forge]

T-minus 24.5 hours left

[merry sapphire]

yeah man of course

[frail bloom]

No

[wintry forge]

😬

[merry sapphire]

talk about Hopeless Sheesh 😂 ✌️

[fleet spruce]

Just... Around the corner...

[fading bone]

uuuhhh..

[hazy pasture]

It's close...

[green estuary]

this cannot be real man

[hazy pasture]

It'll run TDA but there's a catch...

[green estuary]

a gt 710 can't even crack 30 fps at 720p in doom 2016 lmao

what kind of question is this

[hazy pasture]

Bud can def run TDA or any modern Doom game in the classics' pixelated graphics setting

[brazen ember]

Sell this for a microwave

[green estuary]

a microwave would unironically run games better than a gt 710

[hazy pasture]

Yes

Perhaps a potato would do it better as well

[green estuary]

of all the ridiculous "will it run" questions people ask about TDA in this channel, this one might take the cake

[fleet spruce]

https://youtu.be/uRGNkhplrtI?si=utErOW4K5-0VqqUw

[cold patio]

you can literally play doom in discord gif

[hazy pasture]

I've been honoured

[wintry forge]

Maybe he means classic doom 💀

[hazy pasture]

Steve said he got TDA but has a potato build. I said a real potato might run TDA better than his PC

The whole summary

[hazy pasture]

Those 19-20 pixels make up the berett pistol and Doomguy's hand as well

[steel pond]

i believe in that pc build just turn on DLSS and frame gen

[green estuary]

you could have 8x frame gen and that's still not gonna save you there

[brazen ember]

Let's try and run doom on an orange and an 8 bit display

[fleet spruce]

one frame per whenever is cherry on the top

[thorny yarrow]

I recognize the irony of what I'm about to say and it's gonna be a wall of text, I'm sorry in advance. But dear god, I need to stop hanging around in online spaces for things I enjoy. It makes me feel insane for liking things. XD

I know none of the new doom games stories are "poetry" but I feel like Dark Ages story gets dunked on by some way too hard.

My current sticking point is people being unhappy that the Slayer "fails a lot." Probably doesn't help that it's a transitional period for the Slayer, who has just gotten his sanity back, before being empowered and then shoved into Maykr Control.

Because of that, he takes actions that are safer, and somewhat less bombastic as he grows into his Slayer shoes and acclimates to the fact that he can now do even more than he ever could before, on top of being around a people who he cares about and who actively want to help him.

This results in a tamer Slayer overall with less bite, but it's only because it's an origin story. So why do we dislike the fact that we are watching a burgeoning version of this character come into his own? I expect it's because of the rep of the character, and the lack of care for Doom's story in general. Which ultimately is also fine because everyone knows the primary draw of Doom, but infuriating for me because it leads to conclusions about the game and character that I, as a hyper nerd ass, am irritated by because they are incomplete.

I don't know man. I'm just invested and I like so much of this. I hate stewing in this. XD The only opinion about media that should ultimately matter to me is my own. It's just a game, I need to calm down. None of it's real. But I care. And maybe it's the problem that I care too much. XD

[hearty edge]

no guys he was the only one that warned the slayer that the longer the icon of sin stays on earth the stronger he will become

200 iq

[thorny yarrow]

The worst part of self awareness are the times when you know you are thinking or acting in an irrational way, but for one reason or another you lack the self restraint to stop. For me right now, it's cause I'm up way too late. XD

[hearty edge]

the hdd is the most reasonable thing on that pc

best bfg is just eternal no contest there

doom 3 is the best doom 3 game ever

[fleet spruce]

People forget that he's fresh out of the divinity machine.

[cold patio]

i just enjoy any game and never give two inches of fuk about criticism

[thorny yarrow]

Frankly, something I need to get better at.

[cold patio]

yes bro just trust me, if any game got overrwhelming negative on steam and you're enjoying it ? then fuc* any other opinions as long as you love this game.

[fleet spruce]

and don't get me started on all the Finishing Move hate...

[cold patio]

the people that made tda ost ?

[fleet spruce]

Yeah

[wheat sigil]

tda didn't get overwhelming negative reviews
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1188393862968922132/1455820384489181184/Screenshot_20251231_080922_Steam.jpg?ex=69561de3&is=6954cc63&hm=17c8b0b79098e3137012a458ffe27c8ea72300d6b1cd9d0b9fbf3f1d4bd97db5&

[cold patio]

no i meant other games not tda

[cold patio]

i mean, i understand it's not mick gordon, but i don't have to cry over that like the others, TDA ost is banger hate on me all you want, eternal's ost will never be matched, but this doesn't mean TDA ost is bad, absolutely not it's fine, i like that TDA ost is fresh and new idea rather than copy paste from eternal, just saying.

wait until finishing move inc release dlc ost and people will be like woah

and they will just forget about Gordon

anyways, gotta perfect TDA achievements

[fleet spruce]

TDA is probably the most Doom soundtrack out of modern games imo

[elder raven]

its definitely a soundtrack

[hazy pasture]

I think Slayer "failing" a lot adds a lot to the story and is way better than being an invincible character who'll always win

[hazy pasture]

I think TDA has more good tracks than the other two games

[young schooner]

TDA's story I honestly think is objectively the best in the series.

By virtue of it being a serious narrative that has more emotional depth to it than the others.

And I'm sorry but the Slayer "failing a lot" is a good thing and kind of the bare minimum of storytelling. There are supposed to be stakes. The protagonist can't be literally perfect. There have to be ups and downs in the story and there should be a sense of danger or urgency that he could actually lose.

[hazy pasture]

I think the story serves Doomguy perfectly as an "Aspiring Slayer"

[hazy pasture]

True

[young schooner]

I would argue 2016 and Eternal, mainly Eternal, could have been seriously improved by bothering to show scenes depicting the Slayer struggling in a fight occasionally.

If they were writing Eternal post-TDA I guarantee they'd have done this, at the very least, in the Icon of Sin and Davoth fights.

[void hornet]

Anyone knows if anyone's developing a mod to make TDA run better on Low-mid rigs or if ID themselves are planning on improving it in future updates?

[fleet spruce]

Handheld graphical preset is pretty much that

[crude sparrow]

I think the reason why the slayer "fails" quite a lot in TDA is because there's little to no planning involved

they just send him down and tell him "go deal with it"

and even the couple times where there was planning they dont even bother to fill doomguy in on the plan

they treat him like a mindless beast for most of the game

meanwhile in eternal doomguy basically works all on his own so he doesnt have to depend on anyone, attacks key targets and locations instead of getting distracted by a million random things, and also he probably has a lot more experience by then

[void hornet]

I'll try it to see if my fps somewhat improve

[fading bone]

aaaaand another nerathul end to a pandemonium run

💀

[wintry forge]

that was a joke lmao

[wintry forge]

Just satire my friend

[hazy pasture]

Nerathul be having a beef w you atp

[fading bone]

what is atp

[slender night]

At this point

[fading bone]

nerathul has always been having beef with me

[hazy pasture]

Fr

[fading bone]

i died to a random imp shot in the first wraitstone fight while mid melee and then i got stuck on a wall vs the komodo

💀

[topaz oasis]

Nerathul on UN/Pandemonium is one hell of a chokepoint

Specially if you're doing a 100% or all encounters run

[fading bone]

its just the worst on 100% pandemonium

[hazy pasture]

Dang

I might do a pandemonium run sometime(when the DLC is revealed...)

[thorny yarrow]

I appreciate the reinforcement that I am not insane here. Thanks guys. XD

I don't mind the Slayer being nigh unstoppable in the other games, since by that point like others have mentioned he has had a lot of time to be on his own and has even more knowledge and experience in fighting Hell. The unstoppability of the Slayer is one of my favorite traits about him.

But I believe he should be failing and having a hard time in Dark Age's narrative. It makes sense, and contributes to his origin as the unstoppable force he becomes. It's compelling and interesting.

[bleak jackal]

Well in terms of time passed between dark ages and doom 2016, it is supposed to be eons for him isn't it?, plenty of time for trial and error and to learn and adapt

[thorny yarrow]

Definitely. I wish more people would remember/understand that.

[bleak jackal]

Also over that time he absorbs the argent energy from the countless demons he kills. Which is why he is so op by comparison in eternal.

It is two very different points, in a very long journey.

[solar spoke]

agreed, I died two times on my pandemonium run on it

[meager vortex]

happy new year for doom fans all!

and happy new year for doom the dark ages dlc for all!

[fading bone]

새해 복 많이 받으세요 :)

[hazy pasture]

Happy new year to you too aragami

[frail bloom]

Wait there are ppl who don't like that?

Well what abt the entirety of classic doom

Doom guy def struggling there

[unkempt dragon]

hi fam

[frail bloom]

Herro

[hazy pasture]

Howdy howdy friendo

[hazy pasture]

The new gen players i.e.; those who have only played 2016 and Eternal

[thin hound]

I’m one of those people and I love the narrative story of The Dark Ages, the idea of Ahzrak being even more powerful than the Slayer gives it higher stakes

And it makes the story better when you finally succeed

The Slayer is just a buff human that was given the strength of a demigod and near-immortality

It’s his rage and unwavering conviction that allows him to move forward, how he is so angry and motivated that he completely disregards all pain

[hazy pasture]

I believe the depiction of him being the Super-Weapon for Sentinels and Maykrs nailed most of the story for me

[hearty edge]

yea i noticed late

[hazy pasture]

Because in a way, every Doom game has depicted him as a weapon

A means to an end

[bleak jackal]

Was pretty mental that Ahzrak needed a cosmic powerup and then a transformation on top just to contend with the slayer

Now he has killed azhrak and absorbed his power like he does with all demons, it will be interesting to see who the baddie of the dlc will be

[flat elm]

Only in modern doom, in classic games he just a dude

[hazy pasture]

Very likely the High Council of Hell

[bleak jackal]

That is what i hope fot

For

[fading bone]

none other than John Doom himself

[hazy pasture]

A dude who was able beat the shit outta Icon

So still a weapon in one way or other

[fading bone]

that comment was supposed to respond to the who the next dlc boss comment

[hazy pasture]

Not literally but metaphorically

[flat elm]

Cosmic Joshua Boyle will be boss in DLC

[thin hound]

Or Chad Mossholder?

[hazy pasture]

Demonified Hugo Boofin

[thin hound]

[flat elm]

And you play as Mick to whop his ass

[hazy pasture]

Holy moly

[thin hound]

I think we’re starting to lose the plot here

[bleak jackal]

He is gona fight the only entity that nobody can excape

The tax man

[thin hound]

Yep we lost it

[harsh egret]

nah yall r cooking

[thin hound]

The tax collector is the only thing I fear

[hazy pasture]

Hatorminator is gonna be the DLC super weapon

[thin hound]

That and the HOA

[hazy pasture]

Yup

[flat elm]

And big freakin clock

[bleak jackal]

I still have to find it lad 🤣🤣🤣, people here are tapped in the head most of the time , it's the irish weather

[fleet spruce]

the time of DLC is now...

[warm ibex]

we're definitely getting those master levels before 2026

[harsh egret]

any moment now

[bleak jackal]

Gta 6 will come out first

[harsh egret]

im refreshing steamdb every 5 seconds

[slender night]

We at id are proud to announce we are releasing the long-awaited Master Levels... for DOOM II 2!

[hazy pasture]

Can't stop biting my nails it's so close

[hazy pasture]

Oh

Dang it

[thin hound]

Ireland has great weather, I can’t wait to travel there

[hazy pasture]

Lmao

[hazy pasture]

Big Freaking Dawg too

[flat elm]

I wonder what if TDA enemies, would have quality of AI like in Halo.

[bleak jackal]

If rain and cold most of the year is your idea of good weather , then you will certainly enjoy it here in the southwest 😁

[thin hound]

I hate sunlight

[hazy pasture]

EpicSquid... more like EpicVampire

[warm ibex]

when you revisit the TDA steam db page on thursday, january 8th at 9am est and see that the freddy mask has been added with a "weapons" tag

https://tenor.com/view/tyler-the-creator-ttc-shocked-astonished-flabbergasted-gif-14787874159030444760

[harsh egret]

lmfao

[fleet spruce]

Holy shit

[hazy pasture]

Oh shit noway

[thin hound]

Freddy mask as the shield saw

[flat elm]

And baby springtrap from “in the flash" as your ally

[hazy pasture]

Jason's Machete as shield

[warm ibex]

lmao

[thin hound]

VampireSquid

[flat elm]

I still can't believe that in fazbear frights, in this story MC literally gave birth to a baby ver of springtrap

[obsidian shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1182151938314358856/1453530204692545701/ezgif-466598693e4e7761.gif

[hazy pasture]

VampireSquid ftw

[hazy pasture]

Bear 5 spotted

[obsidian shard]

also
#music

3 Pre-sets in January!

Each Designed around a Specific Map!

[frail bloom]

Can't wait for the Sneakyjaycool update

About time

[fading osprey]

Yessir

SneakyJaycool upd before GTA 6🔥

[flat elm]

I need mod whare all enemies is replaced by mancubus, and bosses too

[obsidian shard]

"Modcubus"

[harsh egret]

every demon is just a mancubus version

[warm ibex]

bro heard about the horde mode triple pack and had to step up his game, I like it

[obsidian shard]

I NEED TRIPLE PACK INJECTED IN ME

@harsh egret You cooking up anything for us?

[harsh egret]

well uhh

im cooking something just not for the ripatorium but that will be done hopefully during the weekend which is when im back home

[warm ibex]

six total encounters in one month... does the community even deserve such peak?

[harsh egret]

after that i might get back to making a preset or sum

[flat elm]

I found cosmic mancubus face in concept art of acolyte's grimoire from dark horse artbook

[frail bloom]

Actually

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doomguy-doom-the-dark-ages-true-gif-9488978076129629800

[tough blaze]

HAPPY NEW YEAR 2026 EVEYRONE!! its 2026 here so yeah :>

[hazy pasture]

I guess most of us are cooking up meals

[hazy pasture]

Happy New Year to you too!!

[crude sparrow]

Happy new years chat, it's still 4 hours before new years here but I'm hella tired so I might just go to bed now

[tough blaze]

i hope 2026 goes much betetr than 2025 for everyone!! truly! #hopecore

[hazy pasture]

Gn TM and a Happy New Year to you too

[flat elm]

For me New Year would starts after 3 hours

[harsh egret]

in 4 hrs here

[frail bloom]

Like 9+ hrs here

[fading osprey]

It’s 2:14 for me rn

[solar spoke]

Happy new year and to all years a new happy

[frail bloom]

Same

[fading osprey]

In the noon

[frail bloom]

Yup

[fading osprey]

Wow

[frail bloom]

Bro you in my attic or smt

[fading osprey]

Nuh im in Canada

Like jay

[frail bloom]

[fading osprey]

No seriously

[frail bloom]

Ik lol

[fading osprey]

Heh

[fleet spruce]

from Russia with 2026 🎉

[obsidian shard]

12 more hours for me

Can't believe y'all are in the future

[versed quarry]

Time travel is real

[void hornet]

has anyone thought it would be cool if the shield runes got activated when you parry anything and not just projectiles?

[fading osprey]

I ain’t

[solid nacelle]

It would be extremely broken

Nothing would ever be able to beat you

[green estuary]

runes are already way too broken in this game
there's no reason to make them even more OP

parrying a single projectile is way too simple of an action for the enormous payoff you get with rune activation

probably this game's most egregious balance misstep

[void hornet]

well fair enough

[versed quarry]

and they were gonna give you wolves as a sheild rune

[green estuary]

I think the daggers were originally meant to be wolves
but they couldn't figure out how to make their pathing consistent

but they kept the absurdly high damage in the game though lol

imo, it would've been a better decision (both gameplay- and balance-wise) to give us a bar of some sorts on your shield that refills in varying amounts from killing enemies or parrying attacks, and when the bar fills up completely, you can activate your shield rune
maybe that's a little far-fetched in a doom game, but idk, I feel like it would add a bit more depth to the combat than just "parry a projectile to get free damage"
don't get me wrong, I love the game's combat, but I'm just spitballing here

[frail bloom]

No I agree

You should be earning the option a bit more

Not for all runes tho

[green estuary]

well, I think the runes could be more evenly balanced to begin with

[frail bloom]

Namely ground fissure and turret

Heaven splitter and daggers are more powerful options

[green estuary]

obviously heaven splitter and holy swarm are absurdly powerful
but even ground fissure is pretty insane

[frail bloom]

Eh it's a good armor source, don't wanna diminish it

Or make it harder to come by

[green estuary]

that'd be down to balancing
make each rune feel more unique instead of just being free damage

[frail bloom]

I feel like the turret should just give you a bunch of health

[green estuary]

make ground fissure lean more into armor
auto turret could pierce enemies and lean more into health drops
heaven splitter could lean more into the shock status effect instead of just stunlocking everything in the arena for an eternity
idk what holy swarm could do though

[frail bloom]

Holy swarm is your damage one ig

Just make it less attainable

I'm still waiting for that infighting rune y'all🗣️ 🗣️

[solid nacelle]

I like that ground fissure is just a simple falter and not just locking them in place for a few seconds, less interesting that way I think

[versed quarry]

what about just infighting in the base game

[frail bloom]

Almost non existent and non utilized

Idc what they do, utilize infighting again

Figure it out

[versed quarry]

exactly

pleasee

[green estuary]

the way damage is scaled in TDA would make infighting be a little weird
because the slayer deals literal thousands of damage with his guns and melee, whereas demons don't deal anywhere near that much

an agaddon overhead swing wouldn't even kill a fodder imp, for example

in 2016 and eternal, the damage actually scaled somewhat similarly, but in TDA they just decided to add a zero on the end of all of our damage values and enemy health bars for whatever reason

[frail bloom]

He parries and a wolf possesses a demon and that demon's damage increases a bunch against other demons until it dies or the wolf moves on to another demon

Boom

[green estuary]

sounds like a coding nightmare lol

but it does sound neat

[frail bloom]

id will figure it out

They're tech wizards

[harsh egret]

What if you could customize ur shield rune to play into what u want, imagine u had like a bar up to 10 for each rune and lets say u change the turret's damage and u can spend 1-5 on that, then u can spend idk like 7 for a perk that would make demons killed by the turret drop health, and like more stuff so u can change the turrets abilities to ur liking but u have a max amount of points for obvious balance reasons and each ability or modifier would cost a certain amount

Am i cookin or nah

[frail bloom]

Are they like pictos from E33

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/doomguy-doom-slayer-doom-doom-dark-ages-doom-the-dark-ages-gif-9724745907195717439

I like it

[harsh egret]

Smth like that lol

[frail bloom]

Ye let's have more build stuff

Me want it

Now

[harsh egret]

Yh if they want u to be focused on a build I think that could've been cool

[frail bloom]

It was supposed to be build stuff

But not anymore, kinda

[harsh egret]

Would've made more sense with smth like i suggested

[frail bloom]

I think it didn't stick bc there wasn't as much options as there should be in a build game

[harsh egret]

Yh

For the weapons it works tho

[frail bloom]

For the most part

But I think melee and shield runes should've had more branching paths

And there should be more enhancements depending on what build you have or smt

[harsh egret]

Maybe trade some aoe on the fissure away for extra armor, at least small options like that that u could customize

[frail bloom]

Ye basically

50% more speed with half health left

Or

Idk 50% damage buff when burn is applied

Punching a demon in shock effect with gauntlets re-enforces the shock idk

With heaven splitter

Just make a bunch of stuff that specks into different options

[harsh egret]

id software, im open to hire

[frail bloom]

Trust

[harsh egret]

Even for the ripatorium it would be so cool

u can do even more types of challenges and stuff

[warm ibex]

July 19th, 2027. Check your email

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-james-doakes-sus-face-james-doakes-suspicious-james-doakes-reaction-erik-king-gif-14404252364057104628

[fleet spruce]

holy mother of leaks

spewing such info there

how come it wasn't deleted

[wintry forge]

Anybody see the sick pixel art on Doom’s instagram?

[harsh egret]

yh saw it on the blue bird app

its sick

[wintry forge]

Sick af for the Doom 64 fans

Also like the Evilution one. Always thought that image from the classics was underrated

[heady trout]

holy shit i put all graphics settings to low and

i didnt know the game could run this fast

[fleet spruce]

and low doesn't even look bad!

[heady trout]

exactly!

[void hornet]

how many fps are you getting?

[heady trout]

the whiplash can go fuck itself genuienly

im replaying harbor of souls to get some secrets and I kill one, and the other has 3 projectiles ready, they destroy my shield and then kill me

i LITERALLY turn around and die

[obsidian shard]

You will love my Pre-set

[frosty roost]

I looked at your post and I thought.. "Jay.. did you time travel back in jan 2025?" lmaoo

but yeah i'm super stoked for em

[obsidian shard]

lmao, ya Brain still has to process 2026 and not 2025 lol

[slender night]

Still an hour and a few to go to 2026 here. Entering DLC year

[green estuary]

just got done extracting TDA's audio files
and I love how the first file is just the OG at doom's gate song lol

[cold patio]

the guitar riff goes hard

[obsidian shard]

What???

Could you like send to me or the music channel?

[green estuary]

it's literally just the original .wav lmao

[cold patio]

what's at doom's gate doing in TDA files ? 🤔

[green estuary]

hell if I know

[cold patio]

must be for dlc

i only remember shrek every time at doom's gate plays

[obsidian shard]

(Trust)

[harsh egret]

doesnt it play when the slayer spins the slayer's toy shield?

[green estuary]

ahhh you're right

[harsh egret]

its used but prob no need to include the entire track in the files lol

maybe they did it just for the lolz

[thin hound]

What is everyone’s favorite doom metal riffs? For me it has to be When the Shadows First Lengthened or that one heavy riff from Headstomp, + some of Unholy Siege for sure

[obsidian shard]

Infernal Chasm, Meathook, Blood Red

[fading osprey]

Hellwalker and the start of rip and tear

[green estuary]

the heavy guitar riff from damnation, bfg 10k, super gore nest, that one absolutely bonkers riff from blood swamps, what lies below, steel beyond the grave, blood spill

there are too many to count tbh

[thin hound]

Yeah fair, it’s hard to say

[obsidian shard]

Blood Swamps is sooo PEAK

and TAG Main Menu

[thin hound]

I love Trial of Maligog as well

[high torrent]

Happy new year 🥳

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/false-that's-false-true-fake-not-true-gif-7463876790346893009

[obsidian shard]

You have a GIF for everything

Thank you GOAT

[warm ibex]

you're very welcome Sneaky Jayhate

[harsh egret]

reclaimed earth is one of my favs

[empty furnace]

uac atlantica

[gusty seal]

CBT

[empty furnace]

the scoobyslayer

[frail bloom]

Prob for that secret in siege

Bruh they mixed the song a lil weird in that

It cuts before the first 2 measures ends

Musical blasphemy

Speaking of music, fm should have been allotted more time imo

[empty furnace]

the cosmic realm levels are by far my favorites

[frail bloom]

I look at E33's spotify playlist and it's over 8 hours of music, not counting special editions

Bruh like the contract is buns

[strong moth]

I’m sorry… what secret in Siege has anything to do with At Doom’s Gate? Did I miss something?

[obsidian shard]

The Slayer Toy

[frail bloom]

Someone found "at dooms gate" in the dark ages files

[wintry forge]

Anything David Levy puts out tbh

[frail bloom]

Immora got me groovin I swear

[strong moth]

I really love the opening guitar riff in Wither and Writhe. Sounds so evil.

[strong moth]

Oh I forgot that lol

[wintry forge]

I remember the main riff from Into the Void, those 4 eerie notes, played in my head all day for like 2 straight weeks after the game released

[crude zenith]

Apotheosis, Rip & Tear, Super Gore Nest

[frail bloom]

Theomacy got some nasty riffs

[fleet spruce]

That's a difficult one: Hellspawn Rift, Into the Void, all Azhrak's themes, Blood Swamps & Trial of Maligog, BFG 10K and Rip & Tear

[wintry forge]

Apotheosis is prob the best boss theme in the whole trilogy imo

[crude zenith]

It's honestly underrated

[obsidian shard]

Apotheosis and Theomachy

so peak

[crude zenith]

The riff in the last half of the official mix is 🤌

[frail bloom]

From the ashes isn't a boss theme but it does play during a bossfight

So it kinda counts

[wintry forge]

The riff that never made it into the final track, chefs kiss

[crude zenith]

That riff goes so hard

[wintry forge]

That one’s fire. Love the last 2 minutes of that track. Def the best

[crude zenith]

Unbelievable it didn't make it into the final mix 😔

[frail bloom]

Last two min got me emotional

Ngl

[wintry forge]

A sin. @mystic barn has the best mix for it by far

[crude zenith]

Real and true, yet to listen to SLAD3's mix

[wintry forge]

That comic realm motif that plays at 4:19 is peak

[frail bloom]

Fr

[wintry forge]

Love how From the Ashes has different themes/ elements from across the game. Definitely the game’s “theme song”

It’s mainly built around the Slayer motif so I feel like that’s fair to assume

[frail bloom]

Ye 4:19 is like my fav

[frail bloom]

It's the song for the slayers club live streams, it's iconic

[harsh egret]

Tbf alot of it is also filler or just random stuff

[wintry forge]

This is gonna sound corny as Hell, but I feel like if they made a live action film of TDA, From the Ashes would fit perfectly with a Sam Raimi SpiderMan -style opening credits, since it captures elements from the whole game/ story

[frail bloom]

Fair but I'd rather have a comprehensive collection then a watered down version

[frail bloom]

Put lyrics over it and you got yourself a good theme song

[harsh egret]

Maybe some tracks are missing some parts but it's not too short imo considering theres not many tracks compared to e33

[wintry forge]

Like those movies always had a 3 minute emotional buildup of just blasting the theme to hype the movie up before it even starts lol

[frail bloom]

I just think they coulda got at least 2 more hours in the contract

[warm ibex]

I both despise and yearn for opening credits

[harsh egret]

2 hrs? Wtf

[frail bloom]

Ye bruh that's prob enough

Don't gotta use it all

[harsh egret]

Thats double the length what they got

[wintry forge]

I hate them unless it’s those Spider-Man movies or Terminator

[harsh egret]

Even if they wanted to they prob wouldnt even reach 3 hrs prob

[frail bloom]

Ye 4 hours to mix smt 8 hours long

[green estuary]

james bond opening credits are sick

[frail bloom]

The whole ost unmixed is like 7 hours long

It's def long

[wintry forge]

Take it back, Psycho had a cool and freaky ass opening credits

[frail bloom]

Don't the spiderman one's got the longest opening credits

[wintry forge]

They’re like 3 minutes but they’re peak. They hype that movie up, while also recapping the last film and foreshadowing the next

[warm ibex]

I saw the theatrical release of Spiderman 2.1 a few months back. On one hand it's like "damn this is cool, movies don't do this anymore" and on the other hand it's like "damn this is slow, I've been sitting here for ten minutes and the movie hasn't started yet".

It would be cool if TDA film adaptation had them though, kinda fits the game's vibe in a weird way

[slender night]

Isn't the theatrical release of 2.1 just 2

[warm ibex]

no, it's 2.1 lol

[wintry forge]

I mean if it was action oriented, it could be perfectly fitting. Slayer aura farming like usual

[warm ibex]

oh absolutely yeah

[wintry forge]

I forgot 2.1 existed. That was solid

[slender night]

I could have sworn 2.1 is the extended home media version but I'm not deep into this stuff

[wintry forge]

Doom TDA dlc has an opening cutscene like that to recap the previous game, calling it now. No more wall of text like TAG

[warm ibex]

2.1 is the extended home version, and it was shown in theatres for the first time earlier this year

[slender night]

Oh that's awesome

Spider-Mondays?

[warm ibex]

kinda like the 2016 closing credits

[wintry forge]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-stare-disappointed-gif-13848065843414333862

Me after beating Eternal and TDA and seeing no credits like 2016’s

[warm ibex]

it's a damn shame

[slender night]

The Nightdive remaster went out of its way to remove the cool 2016-esque credits the Unity ports had, wack

[wintry forge]

Literally my jaw was dropped in Eternal’s when they have that abrupt ending with music blasting and the screen just cuts black and ambient music plays with a wall of text scrolling

[wintry forge]

Those were awesome. I forgot about them

[warm ibex]

your reward for killing the icon is words on a black screen

I didn't mind it for TDA since the ending felt more like a comma than a period

[wintry forge]

It was a hella-compressed 10 second meme cutscene for the after credits

[warm ibex]

as in TDA ends with the Slayer launching into another mission, so it's more of a momentary pause than a firm ending. Eternal offered a pretty firm conclusion tho

[wintry forge]

Same. I was satisfied pretty much

[warm ibex]

which was supposed to be continued in an animated trailer for mighty doom, but the concept was scrapped

[wintry forge]

Idk, I felt like eternally needed more closure. We spent the whole game wondering about the Slayer’s potential beef/ next step with Hayden, the crucible, and wondering about how the Slayer even got back to Earth in the first place

[wintry forge]

I had no idea, that’s awesome

[warm ibex]

honestly I didn't think about any of that when finishing Eternal 😭

[wintry forge]

I just felt like it needed one last little comment from Hayden or something. Like, something to give us something to think about. Just because of how abrupt it was

So many people complained that TAG 2 was abrupt but it was way better than the pacing of Eternal’s

[wintry forge]

I mean if you look at it as the Kahn Maykr’s defeat was pretty much the real climax, and the Icon of Sin(mp) being pretty much just the Epilogue/ closure from that, then I guess that could be a more satisfying perspective

[warm ibex]

I think it was more of "cool, they'll answer all this in the next game" so there wasn't much to worry about

and then TAG happened

[wintry forge]

Honestly novik’s ending dialogue is better than the cut Hayden one. So I guess i can’t complain too much

I wasn’t sure initially because the dlc’s were originally advertised as not really a direct continuation, so i didn’t want to rely on a future game to make up for the abrupt ending

[warm ibex]

I honestly didn't (and still don't) think the ending is abrupt

you complete the story, all the main threats are stopped and primary plot points are concluded. everything else was more of a side thing that may or may not be explored at a later point

it felt pretty solid to me at least. but I suppose we're getting pretty far off topic from TDA

[wintry forge]

Moderators incoming

That’s fair. Idk, I just would’ve enjoyed just a little something more. Personal preference I suppose

[mystic barn]

Oh stop it you ❤️

[heady trout]

Eternals story is a fun mess consisting of hype moments and aura

the fact it ends in such a hype moment and aura fits

and tbf, its a reoccurring thing in Doom that "this shit never ends", so having Doomguy walking around on some "ok, moving on"

[wintry forge]

Just facts bro!

[solar spoke]

Well, happy 2026 everyone 😁

[empty furnace]

can i use modifiers on ultra nightmare and still get conqueror slayer?

[frank arrow]

Yeah you can

Personally it loses the charm of ultra nightmare though

[empty furnace]

what if i turn it all the way up

[strong moth]

Then it will become more charming than you can possibly imagine

[warm ibex]

it's not new years in texas yet... there's still a chance we get 22 master levels and the entire dlc before 2026

https://tenor.com/view/half-life-half-life-3-hopium-hope-valve-gif-6767220579130906486

[foggy fable]

11:59
“hey guys here is dark ages 2.0 including 70 master levels. 80 custom Ripatorium missions, 60 from the community. 4 Additional Ripatorium maps. And the unicorn skin back”

[versed quarry]

I believe

[lusty tulip]

Since basically everything in tda seems to have less health than eternal its messing up my eternal gp

[green estuary]

of all the things in tda that would mess up your eternal gameplay, the fact that enemies have "less health" than eternal's isn't one of them

especially because it isn't true

[lusty tulip]

Ig its not the health but things like ssg shots to kill something

[fast pasture]

Yo happy new years from the east cost

[warm ibex]

the east coast has entered the year of the TDA dlc

[lusty tulip]

Lets goooo

[violet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/new-years-eve-gif-4333161930640189729

[warm ibex]

thank you Samur Maykr from DOOM: Eternal

[violet zealot]

you’re welcome

[empty furnace]

happy doom year

[obsidian shard]

Nuh uh

Oh wait I'm west coast

[fading bone]

guys ive been in the new year for 14 hours already and holy MOLY they actually gave the doom slayer GIGANTIC honkers in the dlc its CRAZY!!

[empty furnace]

WHERE

[pliant coral]

Same

[lusty tulip]

Imagine having to wait 2 more hours

[lusty tulip]

Holy fuck

Tda just got 10x bigger

I i mean better

[obsidian shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1274237827592228865/1455447806113480775/SACRIFICE_YOUR_NOW.gif

[elder raven]

happy new year doom community

[amber plover]

when is the dlc coming out 😭🥀

[elder raven]

well i can confidently say its this year

[warm ibex]

there we go

our first "when dlc" of 2026

I'm taking a screenshot, printing it and framing it

that was fast. record time, even

[hazy pasture]

This is going Half Life subreddit levels

[warm ibex]

nothing will ever reach half life subreddit levels

[hazy pasture]

Oh yeah right

But it's crazy how we got our first "when's dlc" of 2026 so fast

[warm ibex]

true, true. it's impressive

I love this community

[hazy pasture]

+1

[manic arch]

Fuck, I keep accidentally using reactions

Discord added a double tap to instantly react feature and its killing me

Anyways, Dlc in 5 minutes I swear, my doctor works at Bethesda

[hazy pasture]

Oh dang

2 mins to go

[manic arch]

If I’m wrong I will have to binge the entire series in reverse order on nightmare

[hazy pasture]

Oh no

Now you have to my friend

Your doc lied to you

[manic arch]

Hah, you’ve been fooled

For you see my doc never existed

FOR IT WAS THE EVIL GUY WHO PRETENDS TO BE A DOCTOR

Or something idk

[hazy pasture]

Crazy plot twist

[amber plover]

just bought the premium edition and thought yk like when’s it coming out 😭

[slender night]

I wonder how much the DLC is gonna cost outside of the premium upgrade

[unkempt dragon]

My best guess is $35-45 usd

[slender night]

Hopefully it isn't another Eternal scenario where the DLC costs as much as the game (after the price reduction of course) but has like, 20% of the content 😛

[unkempt dragon]

Yeah I wait oftentimes until the sales tbh. Paid the $100 for TDA though and that's the most I've ever spent on a game

[slender night]

I spent the most money I've spent on a game on it too, currently it feels more like an investment than a purchase lol. I trust we'll get more content but there's kinda too little right now imo

Really high replayability with the sliders and all though

[unkempt dragon]

I'm going to be spending a lot on the new RE game in February😭lol. But that's a whole other topic I'll drag on about another time.

Yeah I think the options in TDA make for a lot of that too in replay.

[hazy pasture]

I've preordered Requiem

[slender night]

They do yeah! But for me replayability is a "when" not "if", so I'd be returning to TDA anyway. And playing the same thing repeatedly isn't the same as experiencing something new. But like I said we're only on update 3, with the DLC not out yet, so I trust this will change for the better 🙏

[hazy pasture]

I guess this is gonna be my first RE collectors

[hazy pasture]

Trust

DLC isn't too far away...

[slender night]

I really hope it's good. Loved the base game so I'm not worried but you never know

[unkempt dragon]

It's bound to be. They've been cooking

[slender night]

Haven't been let down by id yet so I have no doubts they are making fire behind the scenes

I guess the only issue is that the DLC will clog the rest of my storage but whatever

A small sacrifice

[hazy pasture]

Sacrifices are meant to be made for greatness

[hearty edge]

2016

[manic arch]

TDA will be getting a secret 2nd dlc which actually ends with a cyberpunk Doom confirmation

My fake evil doc told me so

[flat elm]

True, no one can beat absolute Hopium!

Pretty wild situation after game awards

[fleet spruce]

how many times hl community will collapse before they drop hl3 hopes

[twilit stone]

i think there was a post for a suicide hotline on there for a bit

[hazy pasture]

Noway

[hazy pasture]

The moment Hope serum depletes itself, it's over for HL folks

[pastel fern]

I know there was like a thingie with updating drivers on doom the dark ages but is it still worse with the drivers they recommend?

Or has that been fixed

[heady mica]

feels like it’s been fixed to me at least

[fluid shore]

the dragons death couldve literally had musical reference to sweet little bunny (the 2nd part after the "cute intro") with it being like faintly present in the background and building up to doom guy getting pissed
wouldve been a cool callback

[pastel fern]

Aight thank ya man.

[lusty tulip]

[green estuary]

Personally I think the fight’s music shifting to the slayer’s theme for the final phase was pretty peak

[heady trout]

the biggest unspoken W I've had in regards to both Doom Dark Ages and Eternal is that now if i get bored/angry at one of them I can just switch to the other. Before if i got mad at Eternal i was kind of stuck there but now that I have two power fantasy cakes I can just go back and fourth between them.

No 2016 doesn't count, it's too basic compared to TDA and Eternal (Still fun mind you)

but yeah both Eternal and TDS give me that power fantasy rush

[fading bone]

yeah this has basically been my last few months lol

play through TDA a bunch, get kind of burnt out of it, go switch to an eternal run, get enough from that, go back to TDA

i even threw in a 2016 in there since i hadnt beaten it on nightmare yet and i was kinda randomly craving it

[heady trout]

oh boy, 2016 nightmare is just not good, i beat it once, never again

clearly either not properly play tested or the game was built around UV while the other two were built around Nightmare

[fading bone]

it was still fun overall but yeah its definitely the least engaging of the 3 for me

[heady trout]

liking both tda and eternal really showcases the power of enjoying two cakes instead of desperately going "one's ass, the others good" like Twitter

[fading bone]

yeah its crazy people are willing to get so worked up when they have 3 masterpieces right in front of them

just being slightly different styles each

i love switching between them since it just makes the return to the others that much more enjoyable

[heady trout]

ye basically

[green estuary]

reminds me of a youtube comment that said "this game absolutely slaps when you don't have people screaming in your ear that it sucks"

[flat elm]

It's just me or mortar mancubus, walks slower than standard and armored variant?

[warm ibex]

they're supposed to stay in the background and launch projectiles, so a slower walk speed would make sense

[violet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-hi-hello-there-hello-gif-hi-gif-gif-1975068478443384755

[green estuary]

They’re coded similarly to cyber mancs in eternal
They’re meant to serve as area denial enemies, not pressure units like normal mancs

[frail bloom]

That was on dinoheretics tda ost mix

For the entire soundtrack

[green estuary]

I saw that one
But there was another comment talking about the game as a whole

[frail bloom]

Yup jobless mofo strikes once again

Nvm

[frail bloom]

Would've been cool, as long as it transitioned into from the ashes

[fluid shore]

I mean it definitely could've.
I was actually gonna find the track to make a sketch of this today but I cant use my computer rn

[frail bloom]

Oh bro's a composer

Awesome

(Or mixer idk)

[fluid shore]

Producer

And you could say composer but im not the best at making melodies

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/mouth-open-meme-funny-black-guy-mouth-open-meme-black-guy-mouth-meme-gif-14667232777531175562

This gif is funny

[frail bloom]

Alr ye we'll go with that

[radiant oriole]

I'm having problems with my Doom Dark Ages, for some reason now when I'm launching, it sets "Out of range" for my monitor.
I already tried to force a windowed and small resolution throught Steam launch parameters, but it doesnt work.
I don't know why this happens now, the last time I play, It was fine.

Also, the textbox when launching says theres a driver error with the Graphics card, specifically with ReShade... but i Never install reshade in Dark Ages, and it wasnt a problem before

[alpine pilot]

Where doom

[violet zealot]

?

[fluid shore]

@obsidian shard lowkey after you pointed it out and showed the video and after I tried relistening to a few tracks (just kinda browsing over em, not full listens) i kinda realized its not really a bad ost.
While I dont think its as visionary or memorable as mick's score, the sounds present in tracks like "when the shadows first lengthened" are quite interesting, and the guitar tone itself (to me it feels honestly kinda like a less crunchy more noise-ish tone, like thrash but less greasy) is certainly nothing like what the doom franchise, or basically any other game I've played, is accustomed to.

[frail bloom]

Seriously

Well I guess it's a nuanced opinion now

And not "uhhh uhhh ts ai slop hurr hurr"

[fluid shore]

I didnt say its ai slop but I certainly did liken it to ai, since I thought (and still do) that despite its differences, the ost still feels somewhat derivative of mick's works.

[frail bloom]

Ye it's called keeping some consistency and still making your own style

Mick is more djent, this is more thrash

There are differences in bpm and overall feeling

Ai can't do what fm did in the slightest

It's that bad

[fluid shore]

Dawg ik i just think it could've done more to differentiate itself, in a way that is noticeable from first listen, surface level.

[frail bloom]

Then say that, don't compare someones work to ai

That's rude af

[fluid shore]

Ong dawg do you read I didn't say its something an ai can do or that it sounds like ai
It was just a way to say its derivative imo

[frail bloom]

Then say it's derivative instead of insulting

Your message is still up in videos

[fluid shore]

Imma edit it

[fluid shore]

Here u go

[frail bloom]

Imo, I don't see how it's derivative. Nothing abt the ost is close to how Mick produces or mixes, it just feels different

[frail bloom]

Much, much better

Now someone can lead into a discussion

In my first listen, I did not like it aswell

Infact I called half the ost garbage

But that changed when I gave them more listens, and played the game after some updates which fixed the music module

[fluid shore]

Guitar plays riffs, synth plays melody over it. Same approach to metal, oftentimes. Not every track but often.

[frail bloom]

There's almost no synth for a melody except into the void

Everything else is an instrument

Take infernal chasm

Or when the shadows first lentghened

Synth is more used as a backdrop here

To open for a more gritty raw tone

Infact

Even into the void's melody isn't a synth

[fluid shore]

What about from the ashes
I distinctly remember there being guitar riffs and a high pitch instrument or synth playing something
Idk if its a synth but it sounds like a synth

[frail bloom]

A guitar plays the melody, it's just reverberated

You mean that brief 10 sec segment?

[obsidian shard]

Mixng at launch was soo cooked (Bad cooked), Update 2 finally gave it some well needed justice

[fluid shore]

Yk what i lowkey need to relisten to this thing properly

[frail bloom]

Thank you

[fluid shore]

https://youtu.be/KE24jLBnZeo?si=_OJMS5OQgmriN7Ez

This is certainly not like anything by mick

[unkempt dragon]

happy new year guys!🎉

[frail bloom]

Yup and it's the one most likened to Mick

Imagine the rest

Blood Red
Unholy siege
From the ashes
Infernal chasm
What lies below
Theomacy
Unchained predator

List goes on of complete bangers

[fluid shore]

This one isnt similar at all
Mick didnt use reverb guitar like that (or clean guitar at all last I remember) and the glitchy section isnt like his too

[frail bloom]

Exactly, can you see why this ost is much different now

[fleet spruce]

Into the Void my beloved

[frail bloom]

If the song some ppl liken to micks production isn't like micks productiom

[warm ibex]

happy new year 🎉🎉

[frail bloom]

You too goat

[fluid shore]

Yo horde wassup

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-gif-13062150862685254762

[violet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-general-kenobi-you-are-a-bold-one-gif-24099755

[frail bloom]

Dlc dropping in t minus 30 seconds

[fleet spruce]

https://youtu.be/dpvzSj5mxmk?si=703gFHZrf-cvNv8H

[fluid shore]

Ancestral predator?

[radiant oriole]

Nevermind, I could solve it

[frail bloom]

What

[frail bloom]

You mean ancestral forge?

[fleet spruce]

I think I prefer spc's Infernal Chasm mix over DinosaurHeretic's

[fluid shore]

Ancestral beast sorry

[warm ibex]

it's still 2025 somewhere in the world due to a time dilation or some shit... there's still a chance it releases in 2025...

[frail bloom]

Ah yes that one, it references the cyberdemon boss song

What was it called again I forgor

[fluid shore]

Its actually epic ngl
I got it mixed up with unchained predator lol

[fleet spruce]

We're 256 beers away from DLC...

[frail bloom]

Holy it dropped

[fluid shore]

Nobody told me about id?

[frail bloom]

Yup that one

[fluid shore]

Is FMove scoring for the dlc too?

[frail bloom]

Not confirmed but most likely

[warm ibex]

happy to hear they'll be releasing it next tuesday

[frail bloom]

They've been kinda active with the community I'd say

They did an interview with Allstin

[fluid shore]

It was interesting when different ppl worked on eternal and its 2 dlcs

In music

[frail bloom]

Talked on discord here a couple times

[frail bloom]

Andrew and levy the goats

[fluid shore]

I liked levys stuff but I dont remember Andrew's much

[frail bloom]

I think andrew did blood swamps and the holt

Which were fantastic imo

He also did reclaimed earth and world spear

Less fantastic

Imo

[harsh egret]

reclaimed earth my beloved

[fluid shore]

Levy's work (mostly uac Atlantica is what I remember) feels way more electronic than mick work which i like

[fluid shore]

The light fighting ver in UA

[frail bloom]

Uac atlantica has a segment where it sounds like meathook for a moment

My favorite part

Holy

[fluid shore]

Have we ever gotten a doom game in limbo btw?

[frail bloom]

This game

[fluid shore]

The cosmic realm is limbo?

[obsidian shard]

That main menu theme is 12/10 for me, its so peak

[frail bloom]

No the segment in between harbor of souls and ressurection

With all the trees and fog

[fluid shore]

Thats all limbo is in the doom universe?

[frail bloom]

All we can see for now

We have a lot of concept art for it

[fleet spruce]

rather what were shown so far, the concepts arts are insane

[foggy jasper]

I wonder if we will get some DLC for TDA this year

[frail bloom]

No wondering needed

That's for sure happening

[fluid shore]

Is it just called "limbo"? I wanna search these concept arts

[foggy jasper]

A story continuation would be great, a new gamemode would be interesting

[fluid shore]

Can you link these?

[fleet spruce]

I wish I could but bot doesn't like artstation links. Just look up "Doom The Dark Ages limbo concept art"

[obsidian shard]

TDA DLC is gonna be this year from the sounds of it

Master campaign is Possible but mostly speculative atm

[foggy jasper]

Perhaps, if they added a multiplayer mode that would be a little interesting

I'd guess an expansion like with Doom Eternal

[fluid shore]

I did, looks insane.
Would be cool if we got limbo levels in the dlc.

[obsidian shard]

Would be... but..... With how Eternal and 2016 went with their MP (mostly being basically dead) its worth more to invest into a campaign for money back then into a MP

[fluid shore]

Theres no way the dlc will be free or...?

[foggy jasper]

Agreed. But I still think ID can make a good multiplayer arena shooter, D2016 Proved that

[obsidian shard]

No its paid, It comes with the Premium addition and purchasable on release

[foggy jasper]

Maybe a Co-Op horde mode or defense mode where you play as sentinels

Or something similar

[fluid shore]

No mp, and paid dlc, and more expensive than DE stings a bit

[obsidian shard]

umm about that...

id didnt really make the MP, that was a seperate studio in collabration with id

[foggy jasper]

Ok I'm stupid

[obsidian shard]

the multiplayer that was made by id was Battlemode!

[foggy jasper]

They did Quake Champions though right?

[fluid shore]

Ts pmo lwk ngl frfr

[obsidian shard]

i mean Eternal had 2 paid DLC's TDA is only getting one

[foggy jasper]

Never played it

[wheat sigil]

no mp means more sp content, eternal had paid dlc, eternal was more expensive than it is now on release

[obsidian shard]

tho TDA's is looking wayy bigger (in content) then what Eternal had

[obsidian shard]

Its equally awesome as it is unbalanced, but i love it nontheless, I have every Achievement for it!

the Battlemode streams were PEAK

[fluid shore]

Who bro who said that it had free dlc
It had mp, and it was 60$.
If the next game is gonna have no mp for "more sp Content" and be more expensive, that more sp Content better be free

[obsidian shard]

We have ALOT of info on the DLC tho which is nice

[obsidian shard]

I mean the Ripatorium and Most likely Master Campaign

[fluid shore]

No lowkey wait it is tho
Doom tda has 9 more missions than eternal

Ok sorry for saying bullshit lol

[wheat sigil]

no one, but you compared it to eternal so i just pointed out that eternal had paid dlcs (which is standard)
and why do you think the extra sp content is locked to the dlcs? that doesn't really make any sense

[fluid shore]

I self corrected already

[wheat sigil]

obviously they contain more content, but not working on a mp allows them to create more sp content overall (and/or refine it further)

so that more sp content indeed is free

[harsh egret]

the price proposition will improve over time just as it did with eternal
we already got the ripatorium which is a great addition, and they are still cooking up more free content

[obsidian shard]

HI HATO, Happy New year!!

[warm ibex]

I don't think the price was all that bad even with just the launch content (at least in the states)

[harsh egret]

and i swear half the people complaining about no multiplayer didnt even really play the multiplayer that much or at all

[harsh egret]

sup bro happy new year

[harsh egret]

me neither, especially for me who didnt really care for the mp in eternal

[warm ibex]

that's another point I don't really get

[harsh egret]

tho here it is 86 bucks in local currency

[warm ibex]

that sounds a little high but I don't know the conversion rate

[harsh egret]

yh its 899 nok and 999 nok for premium which to me doesnt make much sense lol

its only an extra like 10 bucks

[fluid shore]

Doom tda is 95 bucks in local currency for me when off sale

[warm ibex]

that's a lowball price

game is worth a trillion

[harsh egret]

the game is pretty damn cheap yh

[fluid shore]

If thats what you think, how about this proposal; you pay ID a trillion to buy all of the copies for the rest of us. Deal?

[harsh egret]

tbf the CE was a steal imo, worth the price

[warm ibex]

nah buddy cough up your share

don't cheap out

supporting peak is a group effort

[fluid shore]

will the dlc have drm on it? Just asking for research and data aggregation sake.

[harsh egret]

probably

[obsidian shard]

Probs, but doesn't tank the game at all surprisingly from what I can tell (and what others said)

[fluid shore]

Doesn't tank it much at all tho it does stutter occasionally (or rather, pause for 0.5 second then resume)

[harsh egret]

whats ur specs

[fluid shore]

5070, i7 13700, 32 gb ram (ddr5, 6k mts)

[frail bloom]

I hope Hugo still considers updating the ripatorium

[fluid shore]

Idk is thar subpar for this game?

[frail bloom]

I was gonna ping katsu but it says "do not disturb"

Idk

[harsh egret]

how r u stuttering lol

[fluid shore]

The ripatorium NEEDS to just have an endless random waves mode like ultrakill's cybergrind
Setting up stuff is 16th century stuff I swear

[frail bloom]

It's much quicker on pc tho, just copy codes and you're set

[obsidian shard]

Well Update 3 does look like its going to happen!

[frail bloom]

Didn't hugo say they were almost done even tho we still have dlc

[obsidian shard]

(New maps and DLC Stuff PLEASE)

[obsidian shard]

ye

[frail bloom]

Like I want dlc stuff in it too

[fluid shore]

Its not endless and random tho

[harsh egret]

with balancing u mean? cuz thats what he said

oh nvm i remember

[fluid shore]

An endless random mode that gets harder and harder is way better than copying codes or whatever
Or better yet just have both

[frail bloom]

I hope it's "balancing" and not "content"

[frail bloom]

I mean, not against it

We also have official presets

[fluid shore]

It adds tons of replayability

[harsh egret]

yh but id rather them work on the dlc and not on the ripatorium

[frail bloom]

That rotate

[frail bloom]

It can come after

No rush

[harsh egret]

but it wont prob

[frail bloom]

Idk

[harsh egret]

yh delay the next game for 5 years

work on tda ripatorium instead

[fluid shore]

And I dont because I know I wont be able to buy it and that an actually good ripatorium would add lots of replayability and enjoyment

[frail bloom]

I don't think an endless mode would take that long lmao

[warm ibex]

do we not have a no timer option already

[frail bloom]

Someone said they wanted the enemies to change

Like each round

[warm ibex]

all they'd need to do is add something that randomizes monster values between rounds. granted I don't know how difficult that would be to code, or if it's even possible since it seems to be connected to the campaign in some way

but I dunno doesn't seem like it would be too hard. I can see them adding something like that in 3.0

[fluid shore]

That and maybe something like ultrakill's "radiance" to just buff enemies on the stat when new novel enemies to make rounds harder run out

[crude sparrow]

this is what I was talking about

we NEED a proper endless randomizer mode for the ripatorium

[fluid shore]

Would also be cool if there was (optional) mech and dragon rounds and boss rounds

[crude sparrow]

idk if you've played the endless horde mode mod in eternal but that officially in tda would be sick

[warm ibex]

this is probably part of why they don't bother sometimes tbf lol

[frail bloom]

Ye that's too much

[fluid shore]

What "this"
You mean requests like these? Then they can just make it on foot only but still

[frail bloom]

Because those sections take resources and they're not exactly deep

[crude sparrow]

I think the mech and dragon sections would just be annoying

[fluid shore]

Then without those idk

[frail bloom]

Add dlc stuff!!

[crude sparrow]

they're cool and all but if they go on for too long it gets kinda boring

[frail bloom]

I bet they would have a bunch more options then

But that's down the line

[warm ibex]

"this" as in the perpetual "I want more free shit" when future content discussion start. "I want them to add this, and then THIS, AND THEN THIS!"

not that asking is a bad thing at all

[crude sparrow]

hey just look at eternal's invasion mode

[warm ibex]

what invasion mode

[harsh egret]

thats a very shit argument icl

[fluid shore]

Its not an argument
Its just the reason I personally would rather see endless mode first

[harsh egret]

"dont work on dlc cuz i wont be able to buy it but i have base game so pls add this feature for this gamemode"

[crude sparrow]

I mean theres still lots of content down the line regardless

master levels

[harsh egret]

and honestly the ripatorium is pretty replayable as it is with all the community made presets

[fluid shore]

I didnt say they should work on it first I just said I hope they do lol

[harsh egret]

fun to make and fun to play other people's

[rapid lotus]

Do we have a date for the next stream ? I don't remember if they announce it in the last stream

[harsh egret]

thats literally what u said, i said id rather them work on the dlc and u said u dont want that and u want new ripatorium features instead

[crude sparrow]

dlc should definitely be the priority rn

[harsh egret]

nah no date yet

[fluid shore]

Yh and my reason boils down to me hoping for more free content that actually adds replayability
How is that a shit reason

[crude sparrow]

but the randomized endless mode would be so good

[frail bloom]

Priorities

[crude sparrow]

if not officially I hope someone at least makes it as a mod like in eternal

[warm ibex]

im sure someone will lol

[harsh egret]

i just meant the fact that u want them to switch priorities to make you happy lol

[frail bloom]

Dlc first

[harsh egret]

bad wording i guess

[crude sparrow]

dlc right now

[fluid shore]

Idk about switch lol as far as I know we dont know exactly what they're planning and what order

[frail bloom]

I don't play the ripatorium either

Anymore

[crude sparrow]

gasp

[frail bloom]

Ik ik

[crude sparrow]

HES A FRAUD

[fluid shore]

All of the content rn + another game for free and a B-side ost made by bach?

[frail bloom]

I'm waiting until they add new maps or dlc stuff into it

[harsh egret]

all i know is it doesnt sound like too much else will be added but u can always ask in the Hugo streams how about that 😎

[frail bloom]

Can take months

[crude sparrow]

new maps are definitely needed

[frail bloom]

And more qol changes

Codes for console is not the way to go🙏

[crude sparrow]

honestly, I'm guessing some of the slayer gate arenas from the dlc will be reused as ripatorium maps

[green estuary]

huge doubt on that one

the three ripatorium maps we already have are custom built arenas

[crude sparrow]

they did it in eternal's horde mode already

[green estuary]

they're not going to take that kind of shortcut

[harsh egret]

tbf making a map for the ripatorium doesnt actually take as long as u would think, i guess iterating on it can add to that but yh

[fluid shore]

One day hopefully we'll get a mech rework

[crude sparrow]

• the battlemode maps also worked pretty well

[fluid shore]

The mech is boring

[frail bloom]

Instead of a mech rework they'll just improve on their next game

Reworking an entire gameplay loop isn't realistic

[green estuary]

hopefully they spend their time on more worthwhile pursuits than reworking something that appears for a grand total of 45 minutes in a 15 hour campaign

[harsh egret]

u can hope when mod support comes around lol

[fluid shore]

On id tech 8? So u mean in 4 years?

[harsh egret]

what

[fluid shore]

Or did modders figure this game out already

[warm ibex]

that was different though tbf. eternal's horde mode was made late in the game's lifespan as a replacement for a mode they had promised years prior. no original arenas/environments, all reused from the campaign/dlc

[slender night]

Still waiting for that tech 5 source code

[green estuary]

trying to mod quake champions I see

[crude sparrow]

yeah which is why I'm guessing if they end up making that randomized endless mode it'll come as one of the final updates to the game before they completely move on to developing something else

v 6.66 type update y'know

[frail bloom]

We don't know cuz they haven't disclosed it yet

[green estuary]

horde mode is so underwhelming tbh

not the person, the mode lmao

[harsh egret]

i was gonna say

[warm ibex]

yeah but I don't think there's any world where it's a randomized endless "mode", it'll just be a toggle option for the ripatorium

so no maps needed

[rapid lotus]

Shields runes should be the priorities if they rework the campaign

[green estuary]

yeah horde mode is such an underwhelming person fr fr

[harsh egret]

@ moderators ban this guy

[slender night]

No I just want Decino style videos on Wolfenstein TNO lol

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/tornado-wait-twitter-don't-do-not-gif-15045322123150449477

[green estuary]

would be peak

[fluid shore]

How about they add endless mode, rework mech and dragon, add mod support, the cut weapon 5 slot weapon, and titan fights on foot, and make limbo a full mission, that'll be totally reasonable :D
(This one is for u @warm ibex, ik u will see this as totally reasonable)

[crude sparrow]

obviously, I meant it as a ripatorium update, but more maps would be good for variety

[harsh egret]

[frail bloom]

Nope

I mean what is this

[warm ibex]

we'll probably get more maps tbf so I'm not worried about that

[slender night]

• Patch "Aspiring Slayer" into "I'm too young to die"

[frail bloom]

Half of this is just all no

[fluid shore]

Yeah this alone will make the game a 10/10 tbh

[frail bloom]

The cut weapon is ass

[green estuary]

well that's just a string change, you can already install a mod for that

[slender night]

Poor console players (me)

[heady trout]

okay so im on my fourth replay with 150% speed and two bars for parry window, just beat hebeth and im convinced the leader at the end has a lil more health than normal, I was blasting that guy with charged accelerator spam and he seemed to survive longer than he should

[frail bloom]

But we need a limbo level fr

[green estuary]

🫵

[frail bloom]

Please🙏

[fluid shore]

This isnt an actual suggestion, but if they were to add it itd obv be reworked

[heady trout]

kind of how the Doom Hunters in Eternal have more health than their later counterparts

[warm ibex]

on the topic of difficulty options, I feel like they should've added way more default campaign presets

[heady trout]

same

like for playstyles

[warm ibex]

all that slider customization just for them to do the normal amount of difficulty options and leave it at that

[slender night]

I think permadeath should have been a slider toggle

[frail bloom]

Sekiro mode

[harsh egret]

im telling u, u work for id

[frail bloom]

Where is it

[frail bloom]

Whaaaaatt nooo it's on youtube front and center

[fluid shore]

U mean stuff like a drought mode where its like standard but minimal resource amounts and less damage to enemies?

[frail bloom]

Sure why not

[crude sparrow]

I KNEW IT

[harsh egret]

the final model aint even done yet and bro calls it ass

[fluid shore]

Or 70% speed but 500% dmg

[green estuary]

melee does a lot more damage than it seems

[heady trout]

idk image a difficulty called ''Speed demon'' and its geared towards high speed gameplay

[frail bloom]

[harsh egret]

bro mustve playtested the final version

[green estuary]

so relying on your guns alone makes enemies feel a bit spongey

[crude sparrow]

eternal's famine mode 😭

[frail bloom]

Shhh

[heady trout]

are u suggesting i go melee the leader in hebeth? No thank you

[harsh egret]

i knew it

[green estuary]

well, all I'm saying is that's why it feels a bit spongy

[slender night]

Compare this to Eternal's sausage hands melee

[heady trout]

I choose life, but I guess I could utilize the falters more, its just my ptsd from my earlier playthroughs of hebeth make me keep my distance from the leader

[fluid shore]

Why tf does eternal even have a melee if it does nothing at all

[crude sparrow]

okay but, blood punch

[green estuary]

same reason why komodos feel significantly tankier than cyberdemons despite only having like 7% more health
because it's really awkward to melee them

[heady trout]

yeah blood punch is right there

[fluid shore]

It just adds situations where you try to glory kill and punch nothing

[harsh egret]

it does something when doomguy is angry enough

[slender night]

Well yeah blood punch is there but... um... sausage hands melee

[heady trout]

i would have liked to see one stage or cutscene showign a sentinel settlement on earth, or hell even some depiction of it, im curious how they look

[fluid shore]

Then Just make melee only exist when you have blood punch charges
It adds jank to have a useless melee

[slender night]

I don't have any rebuttal

[wheat sigil]

yeah kinda odd to just keep the base melee when it does nothing

[crude sparrow]

tbh 2016's melee was even worse xD

[fluid shore]

It just adds jank fr

[heady trout]

blood punch isnt just there if you actively use its great

[crude sparrow]

sure, you can kill zombies with just 2 melee hits but you didnt even have the blood punch there

[harsh egret]

how tf is he gonna punch the punchables then

bump his head

[fluid shore]

Idk, make melee activate in punchable range or something

[manic arch]

Melee only runs, duh

[slender night]

I think it's cool they kept it because I like spamming the useless melee when I'm traversing an empty arena