#the-dark-ages
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I don't think I've encountered a game with forced raytracing before
Without any noticeable graphical compromises mind you
idk, ig my system just doesn't like the game, cuz I keep getting bad performance no matter what I do
cutscenes are rendered in game and even that looks great on deck
It would've been a few years till TDA released and around 2x the size if it had baked lighting
you get a very low poly kreed for a split second though during resurrection's cutscene lol
I was on handheld settings and the opening cutscene ran at like, 10fps with lots of skipping/cutting
Which is strange since your specs are wayy higher then steam deck
exactly why I'm confused
update drivers? no idea
already did
like I said, I got it to a good framerate, but now my issue is that there are a lot of skips/freezes still for some reason
Whichever vsync option i choose does nothing, even if i turn it off
and this is the only game I have the issue with
Not an expert or knowledgeable in any way but all that comes to mind is a HDD install
Oh yeah I forgot about asking if it's HDD or SSD
You have an HDD or SSD
(Dark Ages and most modern games recommend SSD)
I have it on my SSD
it just like, constantly slows down for a second and then goes back to normal? It happens like every 5 seconds
does that make sense?
The game isn't unplayable but it's extremely annoying
Y'all think he should submit a ticket at bethesda.net, assuming he has the right specs
Or refund maybe
oml
I just decided to disable discord's game overlay as a last resort
that was it
why???
That's common, modern Doom games don't seem to run very well with it on
modern meaning just TDA?
cuz I've been fine with it for every other game, no issue
The other ones also but nvm
Because discord is a shittily optimized app
that would explain the stutter I get in "Golf with Friends"
And it takes up an absurd amount of performance for what little it does
yall think we gon get a trailer before the end of the year
I'm just confused because it's never been aqn issue before, but it is what it is
no
yea for sure
just be sure to leave milk and cargo shorts out for hugo tonight
you might be surprised by what you find under your tree in the morning
hugo talks about games like hes a kid talking about how cool HIS game is gonna be when he grows up but the difference is the game actually comes out and its good
Milk and beaver nuggets*
Dang
just learned these are a food
That was his thing from the streams lol. Started at Quakecon
ew lol
sounds icky but it's just a caramel corn puff lol
I'll have beaver nuggets and boiled milk steak please 
my car got towed today and I paid $350 to get it back. Ice soup and air salad for me
350$ THATS INSANE
oh and a ticket of $50 on top of it
They really tag-teamed you, huh
yupđ
holy fuck
350$
actually bleeding you dry
that's insane
Does anyone know how to solve the door puzzle after you unlock the deadmace?
WHY DOES TRHE TRIGGER BLEND IN WITH EVERYTHING
In all seriousness that sucks. Very sorry to hear that 
DEADASS DUDE??
They are out for Blood
BloodâŚRed?
Yeah I'm not in a good mood. Anyway back to TDA lol. What's everyone been working on or playing?
Replaying Plutonia 
Literraly nothing, Waiting.... and Waiting. did my work out, but thats it
Hot Take: Dreadmace sucks
The Blood... Is about to be Spilled...
hold up im cooking a response
Dreamace imo fundamentally kind of sucks bc it's easily the best melee and once you get it there's little reason to go back for punches
Not Hot Take: Youâre wrong
However Gauntlets solo
nah actually
Flail does
least buff Flail enthusiast
I got a little stuck on that segment pre-launch and couldn't look up a guide since the game wasn't out yet
to give myself some credit I did throw the shield at the switch and it seemed to hit non-existant geo and bounce back, so I figured that wasn't the solution
one of the worst places to have rough geo
I got stuck there cuz I didn't notice that the block was shield bashable
that's a tricky first time puzzle lol
not necessarily more complex or difficult than anything else the game throws at you, but the messy geo and the way it flows increases the challenge
imo at least
cold take tbh
ngl I find Dreadmace extremely hard to use. But maybe cause I use Melee a ton
yea i agree the fists just feels better cuz its faster
I main the mace ngl
If the game didnt have the saving grace mechanic I would die 10x over
Now turn it on Hard in the Slider Settings 
Hard?
Yes
Mech's are cool
Not as fun as regular player tho
Also do yall usd a variety of weapons or just spam ssg
Variety
I dont see a reason to use like combat shotgun
ssg is awful at range
i use combat more than ssg
i still havenât even upgraded my ssg
i think itâs best for battle knights thatâs it
combat shotgun just has more situational use imo, ssg is like the skull crusher weapons but actually worth using
I believe that's done to incentivize incredibly close range combat, which is kinda this game's whole thing
its insane vs any armored demons
*its insane vs any demon
and it 1 shots big imps
nearly 1 shots hellknights
yeah its just ridiculous in general right up close
which i love but, i think ill have a problem with that when I replay Dark ages on Nightmare
i change my opinion on the day
at first i thought it was the daggers, then i changed to the shock stun one, and then i thought it was ground fissure, and then stun again, and now im back on daggers lol
basically just not the shitty turret
Turrets fine
Turret is Peak
Turret go Brrt
turret is BOOTY
Can't spell turret without t u r r e t
why would i use a single target rune that i have to actually aim instead of a massive AOE that requires no extra effort to land
turret needs a split upgrade path in the dlc
we need double turret
these grenade launcher variant concepts can't go to waste https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892238793174818848/1455426490459099136/emerson-tung-dtda-weapon-shoulderturret-a-3.png?ex=6954af0b&is=69535d8b&hm=edc3ecf08a4e38c3cf6f097e21b233c83c3c2050ef2dfc23922a09c0bed66e82 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892238793174818848/1455426471136067615/emerson-tung-dtda-weapon-shoulderturret-b-2.png?ex=6954af07&is=69535d87&hm=d0159653468cd23b18072f6ffdab86e39f4819bc4e112e8c01fee4e8032aa2f4
twice the dps
Wow the revenant is actually doing something in this game
How do yall kill him cuz getting close isnt gonna work
sprint jump to force them out of their invincible state
shield in em
or Charged Shield Bash + SSG
That works
I have recently grown more fond of using rocket launcher
I get to keep using my ssg
revenants are the coolest demon in this game
badass design and an actual threat for once
i will never align myself with demons who fail to care for their own physical fitness!
Feed the Children
fat
Cannibalism
Natural armor
fatass maykr
It's mine now
Aw man
I'll give you something in exchange SneakyMcCool
âIt is your duty to protect your Kreed!â
Also "Sacrifice yourself in the name of your Kreed!"
Wait is that an actual line from the game?
I believe its cut but yes
Oh damn
It's in the "all Kreed voice lines* video I saw on YT
Oh lemme look at that
whats with the worms kreed is covered in anyway?
Some think itâs the transfiguration, while others think itâs a natural part of his biology
But anyways I listened to his voicelines
And they seems to imply that the Maykr higherups knew of the pact with Azhrak
Which would makes sense with the whole hive mind thing, along with lower Maykrs not being able to disobey the Khan
what if he just did that cuz hes weird
Theyâre just his pets
pet leeches feeding off ichor or whatever
We had seen instances of transfiguration already taking place because it is stated that Maykrs are highly advanced and intelligent machines
And when Slayer was sawing him in half in the end and also the gore effects, Kreed was bleeding
The worms' eyes glow yellow which is weird
They could be a part of his anatomy
But the worms seem fleshy rather than anything adjacent to being machine
Itâs his children (I have no idea)
Machine in the âhuman brain is a computerâ sense or in the robotic sense. Defining exactly which is important before discussing their biology. To me, they seem like they metamorphose
where doom 
It would make much more sense if they have the conscience of human or similar, organic beings in their artificial or machine bodies
Yes they do seem to metamorphosis in their later stages of life
Maybe that's what transfiguration is
But we're not aware of what they go through during the process of Unification
Is mx slider un 100% clear yet?
I think so yes

Personally I have always felt that Maykrs are synthetic machines and the Transfiguration is a kind of bio-degradation.
can anyone help? got 100% but still missing lore nerd and gunpletionest
The metal turns into flesh. I like to think this was originally a way to cut down on waste. Machines that have a built-in lifespan and when they reach it, the consciousness is uploaded back into the Singularity while the metal turns into flesh that can rot away.
just got 2 trophies off of the plat
At the very least we know the mutations of the Transfiguration are predetermined and predictable, implying the anomaly isn't the mutation itself but the mind being stuck inside the body as it happens.
We know that because Samur's Codex entry shows that his Transfigured form was predicted and drawn in the Book of Seraphs long, long before he would ever even begin to succumb to it.
Maybe itâs kinda like when the warranty expires on an appliance, where the body isnât supposed to work anymore so they usually are supposed to move the mind to the central consciousness or whatever
Would an opposite version of Mono be called Dialogue or Stereo?
yes. And simultaneously almost your username as well
minus the E
A for O in similar sound
And Stereo
why i always start horde mode with dreadmace however i picked flail in story ?
cuz they arent connected
i recommend setting up keybinds for melee and rune swap so u can swap more easily when u startup the ripatorium
oh i forgot about that, thanks :)
Do we have any idea about the process of Unification other than a Maykr's mind and being connected with Father's singularity?
fancy
Hato
does the accelerator sometimes bug out for anyone else?
like I'm shooting at demons with it and it's not charging up at all
u sure u just dont have the wrong upgrade equipped lol
i realized once that happened but i just had the wrong thing equipped
even if I did it would've been doing something
weird
sometimes it acts like it has no upgrades at all
never seen that
happened to me a couple times
also another thing, the cacodemon usually doesnt telegraph his charged shot attack if that's his first attack after spawn
just shoots it right away
which is why everyone just hates the caco in this game 
well one of the reasons
i have a suspicion that they are reworking some of his attacks
which would be my only explanation to why they havent fixed him yet
making caco even more dangerous?
just make him less of a pain in the ass
the fence attack is bad and the bugged charged attack is well... bugged
mhm
Please don'tđ
Hey I have a rtx 3060, is that able to use dlss frame generation? Cause if yes, then game doesn't allow me to activate it
I hate it because its close range attacks are just relentless. They do insane damage and it does multiple of them. Basically making it so the only way to kill it is to stay away from it or manage to stagger it
i mean i think it makes sense for him to be so dangerous up close
Frame generation needs a graphics card in at least the 40 series
he is also so easy to shut down with the shield
unless he is doing his fence attack bs :d
That's a bummer, thanks for letting me know
True. But the fact it does multiple attacks out of nowhere makes it really difficult to fight it up close. I'd be fine with it if it did only one of those attacks and then waited a lil' bitđ
yh but u shouldnt be fighting him up close either way
I like fighting demons up close tho. That's the fun of the dark ages
the green projectile is fired without telegraphing it
yh but the caco is an exception lol, in none of the games should u be up close to him
That one is the only attack the caco has that is telegraphed
his melee attacks arent parryable so u cant be going up close to him lol
Which is what makes it my least favorite demon in TDA. The design is sick but i don't like when an enemy changes how you have to fight it completely compared to regular enemies
but just toss ur shield into him and he cant do shit
i think he is fine apart from his bugged attack thats more often than not bugged and i have no clue how thats not fixed yet, and his fence attack that just makes no sense
Most demons are like that. That's boring tho. I like shotgunning and punching the shit outta the enemy
cant u do that if u toss ur shield into him?
Yeah. With him just standing there and taking it. Other demons like the mancubus, cyberdemon and hellknight do attacks you can parry while up in their face so you can really just wrestle with them. I find that fun
i also don't like the caco in tda, primarily bc i think its kind of stupid to have an enemy that just has so much time being invincible before you can shoot him
nobody likes the caco in tda 
I like the design... that's about it
ye
This too. It's just delaying its death which is just annoying. And the lightning attack is so mind numbing it's not even funđ
you can use that ability tactically to remove annoyances while bigger threat is stunned
there shouldve been a counter to the fence attack, smth like making his shield be out of plasma and u can shoot it off and disrupt his attack
i swear the first thing im asking hugo is if they plan on reworking the caco man
Wdym. Like stun some other big dude who might attack me while i'm going for the caco? It's not often that's a problem for me since when i actually do get to attack the caco it dies in like 3 seconds
what i meant is that the ability has plenty of ways to be utilized aside from just focusing on one enemy and eviscerating it while it's stunned
Like...?
any tips or mods for better performance? I tried this one:
https://www.nexusmods.com/doomthedarkages/mods/5
but it didn't change much
also anyone knows how to disable this mod?
How is it installed? With the injector or manually?
Either way, try verifying game files integrity or however it's called. I suppose you're on steam since you use mods.
I think both? it's enable by putting a file in the folder, then activate with the console
yeah I tried doing that I'm gonna see if it works
ok so turns out the perfomance was mostly due to using TAA instead of DLSS
My pc would've exploded without dlss. xD
Yeah I was just trying to see if TAA would give me more fps but not at all lol
it seems that dlss didn't actually change anything đ game still runs like shit
What are your specs?
Lower the settings?
Update your Driver?
Turn off Discord Overlay? (if it's on)
Uhhhh
Buying me another copy of the game will fix it (Trust)
I lowered the settings, the thing is my game has less fps than after I followed this guide
https://www.nexusmods.com/doomthedarkages/mods/5
GreedyJaycool
Aww man
...
So I'm guessing you only got 4gb of VRAM?
no, I have 12 of vram and I'm on a rtx 3060
Hmm get me a copy of TDA artbook. I'll fix it for you
Is discord Overlay on? Someone had it on earlier and it tanked their game, turning it off fixed it
I'mma try that

Can I get another collector's bundle? I won't fix anything though
It didn't change anything
What's your graphic settings at?
do u have xmp enabled in ur bios
low
what's that?
well that answers my question 
its a setting in ur bios that overclocks ur ram which should be enabled
look it up
So I disable it?
no, u should be enabling it
if u didnt know about it i assumed its disabled which it usually is by default
Ok I'll try
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how long is the normal brink of death cooldown?
i just somehow got 1 shot from 83 health to 0
with at least 45 seconds of buffer from brink of death being triggered last (it might have not even been triggered the entire fight)
What killed you? Some attacks ignore brink of death
An imp stalker melee lunge ignores brink of death, so thatâs very likely
So does something like an Agaddon overhead swing
But thatâs a bit more obvious lol
u can copy paste media links
i guess it was the whiplash projectile
they can 1 shot?
whats ur dmg to slayer set to
Yeah whiplash cross
i dont remember the exact dmg it does
whatever the default for nightmare is
Hmm sometimes those crosses do bypass bod
:p
easily my most frustrating demon
Also you got yourself a sub gemini
lmao ive seen ur russian bus drift vid before xd
lol no way thats hilarious
Oh? Lemme check
i cant believe how that video hit the algorithm it was just a shitty meme for /r/youtubehaiku lol
its pretty funny xd
that video basically solo got me my youtube monetization lol
Lmao crazy stuff
ive got a story about the youtube algorithm alright lmao
You can never truly understand youtube algorithm
random vid on my dads channel has 31 mil views for absolutely NO reason
he just tells me one day that he kept getting spammed with notifications from yt
Gamer father, youtube legend
howeveer we got no monetization or anything from it
idk how that stuff really works i just told my dad he should set it up or smth but he never did
i was 9 years old when i put this out and it blew up like in 2019 or smth
Almost 28k subs too
prob from all the spam
Lmao
but ye either way back to dark ages 
This is the typa vid you'll get on a random sunday morning while scrolling through the home page
FUCK THE WHIPLASH
Literally
whiplash my beloved
Wait
the amount of god damn times ive seen my shield go straight through that bitch instead of stunning it is insane
Whiplashes in TDA are downright fair and balanced compared to eternal
i think theyre busto in both
Yeah thatâs because when theyâre slithering, they canât be hit with the shield
And if you hit them in just the right couple of frames as they start that animation, they wonât get hit even though it looks like theyâre still vulnerable to it
You know... I hate that longass whip attack
i know that but i swear to god its happened multiple times when they are not slithering or about to slither
Like let me peacefully shield bash into a stupid zombie
like ive seen it just straight up go right through a standing whiplash
Their ground attack in eternal is 100x worse than anything they have going on in TDA
I hate that one
yeah that shit slays me
Oh howdy Samir
Sometimes I dash and it still doesn't evade
Hello how you doing
The typo was something
tracking, knocks you back, breaks your meathook, and can literally jump off of ledges to hit you while in the air
such bullshit
But I'm doing pretty good
The e is next to the w
Yes
Also I can't parry him so he sucks
End of story
Omg I wish i could replay enhanced asscrack from the start of the boss without having to go through the entirety of final battles Atlan segment just for another shot at a deathless run
imo they should have taken the Dark Lord approach and make him and Individual level
for the reasons I already mentioned but also like
very weird to have a whole atlan level and then
oh heres a normal boss
idk
I don't really like the fact that the best boss fight in a doom game is placed behind a mid atlan section
but every other boss in the series besides davoth was at the very end of a level, so I can't say that I'm too surprised
every boss in an extremely large percentage of games
well, classic doom bosses are almost exclusively placed at the end of a mission
which is essentially what I'm including
obviously OG doom's level structure is different, but bosses being at the end of some level/mission is pretty standard
I mean for the Icon of Sin and Mastermind you just have to hold down W for a few seconds and you're in
well normally you have to play through the entirety of E3 to get to the mastermind, and all of Doom 2 to get to the icon of sin
Under that definition every single boss in any video game ever is structured like this đ
yeah, you can get around it by selecting level, but that's more a product of how OG doom's levels were structured than anything else
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make
idk honestly
Gaming
Gaming
It doesn't allow me to enable it
wth lol
the xmp profile doesn't allow to be pressed
this is really weird, I remember when playing TDA on game pass the entire game run just fine when I used the low preset, but now everytime I'm in an open space like the beginning of Siege part 1, my framerate tanks to even 40
r u on a laptop
No
weird, idk then
What's your specs
rtx 3060
intel core I5-12400F
16 GB of Ram
12 GB of VRAM
where doom 
if I use fsr frame generation, is there any way to cap the fps? because My monitor's refresh rate is 60 fps max
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id Software and Dark Horse bri...
Indeed you can, Probs at a local book store or at the Bethesda Gear store
book gone
there's an exclusive cover variant on the gear store but I think the default is much better
should be able to pick up the standard edition at books a million or barnes & nobel (if you live in the states, at least)
I live in the wojewĂłdztwas (voivodeships) đ
I will probably never find this book at a physical location
I believe i saw it on Amazon too
Thanks to the Steam "Most sold" categories, we can say DOOM: TDA has sold anywhere from 2-5 Million Units
and that's on PC alone, right?
there's also a cheaper digital-only version too, $30 I believe
more accessible
2 to 5 MIL?????
Bro
How is that possible
Hol on I know this might be annoying to some but I'm curious
I thought the highest player peak was like 3 mil, with 2.2 million on gamepass
I mean. Doom eternal massively increased playerbase. And dark ages launched on gamepass. So it was very much out there. And already itâs 50% off on steam rn at $35.
$35 for a triple A game is a VERY compelling offer and lots of people were waiting for that sale price
Oh so did a lot of ppl start picking the game up rn??
Most likley yeah. From the November to December Black Friday / Christmas holiday sales
Now i dont know if its actually in the 2-5million range, but i wouldnt really be surpsied
3mill not counting gamepass i think is fair. And a solid number
i dont think it sold that much bro 
I just wanna take a moment and appreciate id's hard work paying off
That's prob what he meant
if the player count relatively close to launch was 3mil it makes sense that it would be a lot higher more than half a year later
5 mil on steam is impossible
that number wouldve put them way higher up on the sales charts of 2025
Ye that makes sense, I didn't consider it cuz a lot of ppl just dropped it and disregarded it
But I guess it wasn't as many as I thought
I think you put too much stock into what loudmouths say on social media tbh
No I just thought the 30,000 player peak was a little low
I think a lot of people also drastically overestimate how many of those loudmouths have actually played the game
nahhh
Ye it's singleplayer and it's been a while
ain't nobody beating the tda main campaign in 2 days unless they've just got oodles of time on their hands
that shit is long
So y'know it's surprising to me that a bunch more ppl picked the game up
i beat it in 2 days xd
same but that's with nonstop playing lol
i think most people can beat it in 2 days tho
well what does that say about you 
Ye it ain't that long
:I
I will say peak player count doesnât necessarily mean much. Especially when its a singleplayer game
it probably took me 16 hours to beat the campaign on nightmare
and then maybe 2-3 more hours to 100% it
I think i beat it in like 4-5 days i did batches of like 3-4 levels i think
I'm playing through the silent hill 2 remake at what I would consider a casual pace and I'm putting in maybe two hours a day, at most. busy people with jobs aren't about to clear a 16 hour game in two days unless it's a weekend or holiday lol
Back in my day a 4 hour game was considered plenty long and fun
That's right hato
i started the game and it took me 12 hrs or smth to reach and beat spire
With jobs
lol

a what?
I know you aren't talking about having a job lmao
the game released at a time where i had the most work for my final bachelor semester
I didn't know a game of cave paint tic tac toe could last that long
Most work don't mean a lot of work

well, depends on the price of the game
if I'm paying 5 bucks for a game, 4 hours of enjoyment is fine
Youâd be surprised how long cave paint tic tac toe can last between each ugga and club bonking attack
it was stresful and i had a ton of shit to do including prep for an exam i had to retake which is not fun to do during the final graduation semester xd
but if I buy a game on sale for 45 bucks, then I'd expect a bit more meat to it
but either way yes i managed to take 2-3 days off for tda and not everyone can
alright that's valid. I guess there wasn't much else to do during the ice age anyways
which is fair

3 mil is 5 days
Huh what
yh it was 3 mil total players played the game within 5 days
After you capture a dozen mammoths it just isnt fun anymore. And the sabertooths are mean
3 mil in 5 days?
makes sense
yes samir 3 mil in 5 days
most of that 3 mil already had gamepass
that's when the 3mil player count post was made, yeah
yes he meant "in" samir
Did you talk with the neandrethals
he's in here, is he not?
They were quite uncivilized. But were good at capturing wooly rhinos
was the 2-5mil player count you mentioned just on steam?
No, it was meant for overall
A 1 hour game like DOOM 1 to me isn't plenty long but can still be fun. Short games have the benefit of insane replayability
oh?
tbf im not sure if it reached 2 mil overall
yeah it can't be that much
eternal sold an absurd amount of copies and even it just managed to hit 6 million or so on steam
its estimated it sold 800k-1m on steam so far and i dont think it sold 500k on ps and 500k on xbox
next year im sure it might have sold 2m, when the dlc comes out
yeah gamepass kinda screws with the "sold" numbers
hard to gauge how many players actually bought the game and how many just paid for the subscription
the message we learned from all the complaining about how inaccessible it is on pc is that... pc sold way more than consoles?
interesting. I'll leave it at that then
where the hell have you been for the past seven months?
I think ppl with below recommended specs
oh, that kind of inaccessible
That's my guess
yeah lol
as in specs
well estimated numbers after 5 days was 400k on steam and 200k on ps5 and 200k xbox
steamdb?
you can see console sale stats on steamdb?
no, alinea analytics, which is where that estimate comes from
not always tbh, theres 3 diff sources that all say a rough estimate but its usually not THAT far off
no im talking about steamDB
Fairly certain PS sold a lot more then Xbox
Well if your pc is below specs then its below specs not much can be done there
really?
I know steamdb has its own estimates from other sites
but the 400k on steam estimate from 2 months after launch is by a notoriously unreliable site
yh and they made that one vid for playstation with the cosmic realm reveal iirc so maybe it made them buy it 
I know ill be rebuying once it comes to switch 2
I was about to mention that
I'm sure the player count will go up considerably when it hits Switch 2
I can easily see a free 100k sales from switch 2 alone
well now its estimated to be 700k-1m
the one that is usually more accurate is Gamalytic which estimates 725k
absolutely. it introduces the game to a whole new audience of people that may not have the hardware to run it otherwise
Same đŤĄ
And then it went on a 50% sale the next day...
Yep the whole new audience. And then the people like me who will gladly double dip for a portable handheld version
that too yea
paying 30 dollars a month for gamepass just sounds like such a bad deal
i dont think it does
I like to own my games anyways
Iâve always just found handhelds to be more accessible and convenient for my brain and how i work. So even at home i rather play on my switch or steamdeck over my xbox
It depends on what kind of gamer you are
yh i would much rather buy my own games but i can also see why some people would be ok with game pass
Gamepass used to be very much worth it. But lately? Not really
Constantly out there for new experiences and always cleaning up your hard drive of old games? Worth
But if you are like me and you like nesting your own personal permanent collection then no
in an age where you can get absolute banger games on sale for like 5 bucks, I can't rationalize paying 30 dollars for a subscription service, unless you're the type of person who just plays a bunch of new games and then dumps them for the latest thing
is it just due to the increase in price?
WellâŚ.yes
cuz i mean they have lots of big games on game pass and more coming up too
if you just cycle through brand new AAA games, then yeah gamepass is probably a great deal, but otherwise it doesn't make a bunch of sense
I have the most basic tier of Game Pass just for the online multiplayer and they keep raising the price because they keep adding games I don't even play ffs
And some people (such as myself) played the game a week early
A WEEK?
Ye, Collectors edition came Early
oh yeah that lmfao
worked on console only
i was stuck with a greyed out "play" button
Yup
there's also a lot more preventing people from playing than there was with Eternal
people generally have less money and games/systems are more expensive
yeah
also no pandemic. I really do think having fuck all to do for several months straight boosted Eternal's sales a bit
Probably one of the smaller factors but the initial harsh distaste for the game with the Mick and slow gameplay and slider shit
that too
Well slow as in slower than Eternal
Oh 100% it launched at the height of Covid \that and animal crossing exploded sales wise
yh i was about to say the doom crossing stuff :d
i just woke up cthulhu
say good morning to him from me
Personally tda is more or less the doom sequel to 2016 I wanted. I like etneral but i wanted the more weighty grounded feel tda gives
TDA is the doom game I never knew I wanted
next game we are gonna be fully airborne
but that's just id software for you. they'll make you want something you didn't even know was possible
Microsoft Flight Simulator collab
I wonder when TDA will be ported. And i hope they get panic button again
Loved Eternal but TDA and 2016 are more my type of game, more grounded (both in gameplay and in tone) and edgy
Why not Bloodborne?
I hope panic button lowers the audio on their intro screen 
Oh god yes please
The mini ear death that would occur
THATS RIGHT WE PORTED AHHHHHHHHHH
I know Panic Button has a wide and impressive portfolio but I've only encountered their work twice and both times it was subpar đ
that shit always blows my ears off
Panic button has also become so popular Nintendo themselves allowed them to port 4 switch 1 games to switch 2
Including mario odyssey.
So if Nintendo is willing to let a third party company touch their main stuff well that says a lot
I love opening up eternal on the switch every once in a while just so I can lose my hearing for the next few days
lol
good for them, they did a damn good job with the Eternal port. seems deserved
I jsut recently redownloaded etenral on my switch 2
The handheld mode def looks quite blurry on the larger screen. But docked is still beyond impressive
The fact docked is basically on par with like the xbox one version
Is still quite insane
So tda will be more than fine on switch 2
I absolutely believe it
I just hope the port launches before May of 2026. Not that I have a S2 at the moment or am necessarily dying to play it handheld, but the switch players deserve a port asap
The fact they got eternal running on 3gb of ram and a very low battery drain device is still so insane
It genuinely is like i loved my switch it was my only device for years no pc no consoles
So i was buying ports left and right
is there any advantage to using the punch over the flail
It looks cooler
significantly higher damage potential when fully upgraded
And it was and still is so impressive. And seeing what switch 2 can do power wise adn seeing Indiana jones coming i cant wait
theres almost only advantages 
I look forward to seeing how indiana runs on the s2
Heck im playing cyberpunk rn o my switch 2. So i cant wait for dark ages
Ff7 remake demo was also super impressive
Pragmata demo comes next year
Indiana jones and fallout 4 day 1 buys
I even heard Starfield should be coming so thats juicy
starfield is a game alright
I personally enjoyed it and it did everything I wanted from it.
So i want it handheld now
I think and hope this should be a fair guess
the bethesda switch ports have been overwhelming successes, it seems
Eternal took 1.5 years to port if i recall
I would imagine TDA shouldnt take as long since way more power to work with
they got the dev kit for it already this summer iirc too
I think that's about right. during an interview that was recorded in march (but released in april) they mentioned that they got switch 2 dev kits in february
I would kinda hope for an eternal switch 2 update too but i kinda doubt they will
They should port Wolfenstein TNO, let people enjoy peak
oh was it in march? damn thought it was later than that
I would love an old blood port
maybe the interview went live later, I'm not sure
but recorded in march
yeye
I wonder if Bethesda will be porting more stuff to switch 2. Indiana jones is a good sign and so is fallout 4 anniversary, but from my understanding those are more so part of the current xbox incentive to launch on other platforms
So it isnt counting older games
Good game but probably my least favorite from the modern quadrilogy
Quadrilogy?
Like a trilogy but instead of 3 games it has 4
TNO, TOB, TNC, YB
You found old blood worse than youngblood?
I won't judge but that's surprising lol
I personally liked youngblood a lot but I wouldnt rank it over old blood
They have gameplay on the same level for me, but Youngblood at least doesn't mess up the story as much as I found Old Blood to do. The paranormal stuff getting reintroduced and then never brought up again specifically
Maybe this is even crazier but I think Wolf2 is better than every game after TNO
I liked it more than most seem to, the writing didn't bother me and I thought co-op wolfenstein was a pretty cool idea
For me again only had a switch as my gaming device. So it was one of the only fps games i had access to
And being able to replay every map with every gun as much as i wanted?
It was and i think still is the only game i 100% in recent years
And boy did it play smooth on switch 1
For as fast paced as it was
Granted it wasnt until the last update that they actually massively boosted resolution and i realized how blurry it used to look
But again a good sign for TDA port
I mean heck. Indiana jones is more demanding
And its coming
if they can pull off indiana jones then no doubt TDA will be smooth
even as someone that won't be picking up the TDA port on day one I'm still very excited for it. I can't wait to see the game in more hands
and obviously looking forward to the inevitable digital foundry spec comparison lol
And what I think will be kind crazy is that its not insane to think switch 2 tda will be 60fps
It runs at 60fps almost locked on xbox series S which is a quite comparable device power wise
I mean sure we will probably have a graphics and performance mode of course, but not crazy to think about
I think it's crazy that TDA doesn't have a graphics/performance mode option on consoles. they managed to do both in one single setting
Yeah I probably will wait for a sale just because I paid full price for the xbox version but will sale it later for sure
What does that mean
Consoles have a usual high fps low visual option or high visual low fps option
But tda just has high fps and visuals
Oh well it runs well
Granted sure, it doesnât have a 120fps suepr low res option. But it hits aVERY solid middle ground
And looks alright
it's a good thing, not a complaint
Not exactly the crispiest but it looks good
Looks rather wispy sometimes
If that makes sense
No ik but I'd like a 120 fps option too
I'm fine if it looked weird
I mean I would too lol but I'd say that probably has somethign to do with tracing being built in
I think the issue with a 120fps option. Is that its cpu bound not graphic bound
So if we lowered the graphics it wouldnât do much for fps
That's a problem yeah
I'm fine with how it is tho
It's a constant 60
Almost never dips
My next pre-set is in progress
must be nice đĽ˛
It is
It's either gonna be
Cosmic Cruelty
Or
Ahzraks Abyss
King of alliteration
They sound so good thoo, I can't pass em up
Do Chaotic Calamity that's just a power fantasy đ
500 fodder demons to kill in one shield throw, absolute cinema
(I wish this was possible to do)
gimme a bunch of energy shield soldiers and fodder so I can ping pong my shield between them
55 pinky riders 55 cyberdemons 55 of those big spider guys 55 revenants 55 whiplashes
THIS GUYS TRYING TO START A SLAY IT FORWARD CHAIN
"Samir Salamder"
Komodo my goat
obligatory "komodos are jank as hell" comment
i lost my controller lid, the one from the collectors edition tda, the one with fucking daisy on the inside. fucking stupid kids
like will i have to buy another one for 100 dollars on ebay, im so pissed
Wdym "Stupid kids"???
Like siblings or cousins, or like your kids or smth
my own demon spawn from hell
they got into my shit and made a mess, the lid likely was tossed into the garbage
Ahh damn jeez
my boys are 4 and 7. most destructive little devils on the planet.
Coolio! At least they are having fun lol, albeit at your expense(s)
When my niece and nephew were over a bit ago they would not stop touching and trying to "steal" the keycards
oh they already destroyed most of the numbskull toys.
Oof, I used some crazy glue to glue em back together a bit ago (mainly the slayers equipment launcher)
Niece and nephew are 6 and 9 tho
So they have a bit more self control
Ah yes dark ages slander on my Twitter timeline I will not tolerate it
As usual the first mistake is being on Twitter in the first place
the algorithm is literally designed to send you shit that will keep u engaged, in this case its something that pissed u off, like Dark Age Slander
I thought the game was fantastic
and knowing Twitter from my days on it, I can only imagine the lobotomy opinion you saw
if you actually don't want to see more of it, don't have Twitter (peace of mind cheat code)
twitter either recommends you stuff it thinks will keep you in an echo chamber or stuff that's purposefully meant to piss you off
no in between
exactly
From my experience Reddit has been much worse
But tbf if you're anywhere online you will see hate, best is to ignore and show support to things you love and enjoy
first time I've heard people say reddit is worse than Twitter
either way both work in a similar fashion like Katsu explained
Some days its worse than others for both lol
no offense but if this shit pisses u off why even be on these social media sites in the first place, are the funny memes and ecochamber posts validating ur own beliefs really worth it
Truth Nuke
my brothers in christ, seek not validation or approval of your opinions, be your own individuals
We are broski
Has it ever been said why fast travel never made it back to TDA?
How you explore!
Specific areas are meant to be "points of no return" the game also mentions it
Still tho, I wish fast travel was in so i wouldnt have to replay a lengthy level like spire of nerathul just because i missed like 5 gold
jay will be seeing the point of no return if i die in mancubus mayhem again
yo @mystic barn Sorry to ping ya but were the Recent Changes on the TDA OST you?? If so I can accept them rn!
You? No me. I'll make the komodo evaporate
He gone
Sorry mate not sure what you mean
On DOOM wiki, sorry
Just had a look, thatâs not how I write. I also donât agree that Finishing Move has referenced Mick Gordon at all
when did they do that?
I'm interested to know if the author gives any details/sources there
There prob ain't any
Some rando got a hold of the page
Fm themselves said they strayed away from referencing past modern composers
So whoever this is just threw smt at a wall to see if it stuck
alright, thanks guys
About an hour ago, no sources and what not, I was gonna reject the change immediately but wanted to make it wasn't Dino's since he has more knowledge then I do around the Soundtracks!
dude just updated it again
I have a feeling itâs either the guy who made this video https://youtu.be/C_WHZLhZ8RA?si=LoPvct-y_8zT5WoO or one of the people that viewed
This video was made as there is none that is covering alot of the OSTs references. There's references of mick gordon, old doom and metal bands. Many of the references were from comments that pointed out which track had what. A few I had to find on my own.
The songs featured in this video don't belong to me nor were they created by me. All songs...
thanks
He's saying Wither and Writhe references Skullhacker but I don't hear it
are there really any references to 2016/Eternal tracks in tda?
I haven't seen anyone talk about any. just the classic doom stuff
the D64 intro reference in Atlan Battleground is super sick
I listened to the Video, I can see what they mean for the references but its just not similar enough
valid
probably not intentional then (unless stated otherwise I suppose)
I believe it was mentioned in @silent surge 's interview with finishing move that they were told to go for originality over references
which is probably why there's less than in 2016/eternal
i feel like thereâs some callbacks but yes it was a different focus
definitely a handful (and they're awesome)
I'll just reach out to Alex or the rest of the team and ask em
Love that they are so easy to talk to, Hope they can sign My OST one day 
goated
they all seem like awesome guys
Fr, Super cool dudes, they are some of the only other guys I know that avidly talk about their music work with fans, like Andrew and David!
Howdy, and hope you have fun!
I need my game to finish downloading
But after i can rip and tear!
I wonder why devs scrapped Komodo's chaingun round attack, and vile bomb attack.
Definitely not, but thereâs a riff in Atlan Battleground that is very similar to one of the riffs from Damnation
And Into the Void has similarities to Corruption but it sounds Distinct enough
i doubt they'd even be allowed to make references to Mick's tracks
They def can
i mean yeah legally I suppose id still does own the tracks but like.. the drama and all that, it'd be in poor taste in their eyes I guess (or smth like that)
Yeah, I saw somebody mention that before. I donât really hear much of Mickâs stuff anywhere tho. Mostly just classic stuff (there isnât much there tbh)
Which Iâm okay with, I like the games OSTs being entirely original without relying too much on nostalgia
how am I supposed to enjoy a product without being nostalgia baited?
Imagine both
Avengers Doomsday trailer-ahh
Does this apply to gameplay too
nah
Alr just making sure
I like the classic doom elements of both the gameplay and soundtrack lol
I just also think it's funny when people complain about the lack of references
we are so back
This is perfect
sneaky peakcool ahzrak's abyss and my triple pack releasing in january... feast of kings
we will feed families
Triple Pack???? YOO WHAT ARE YOU COOKING
something a little more special than just arachnophobia 
I think they definitely need to be there, but I really like when they donât overdo it.
For example, almost all of Mickâs battle mode riffs are recreations of classic Bobby prince tracks.
With TDA (and 2016/ Eternal, but TDA specifically) the music took a more original approach, while still paying homage at some moments. itâs almost entirely original and expands the original track roster without being built around or based on classic riffs
Careful you're cooking too much
TDA being mostly original with a handful of references is what I like to see
I think âInto the Voidâ is the only track in tda to be âbuiltâ on a classic motif, that being Dark Halls. Itâs the driving tune of the track, but they change it to make it relevant to the tone of the cosmic realm while also expanding it drastically to make it non recognizable
i feel like the from the ashes song is the prowler version of doom slayer
From the Ashes is his Theme so i would make sense
I honestly didn't even realize it was somewhat of a remix of dark halls, that's awesome
I'm pretty behind on OST trivia at the moment
That's surprising, it was the first one the community picked up
The OST Page on the DOOM wiki was Accepted a bit ago and contains a BIG Chunk of info
I guess tbf I've just sorta tuned out anything that has to do with the OST and doom community lol
peak, I'll give it a look
Makes sense
guys if u take off the cape on the phalanx doom the dark ages mcfarlane figure will the articulation improve?
Oh yeah, first 4 notes is e1m3âs main 4 notes. Itâs off-key intentionally to make it eerie
the most disturbing classic doom remix...
doom the dark ages' most illegal classic doom remix
Thatâs the only reference that I know is entirely intentional, Finishing Move commented on it. That and the Doom 64 tune was also intentional
âŚItâs only 10:39 where I am, not âMidnightâ yetâŚ
fuck, same
yeah im in est
that D64 reference had me doing backflips the first time I heard it
It was so sinister. Sick af
my goat being one of the only references in TDA's ost is wild
Itâs a rarity
if only the game itself had doom 64 references lmao
I mean, nightmare imp
combat shotgun too
But yeah thatâs literally it
Thatâs very true. Hugo commented on it like he had no idea tho when he was asked. It was kinda upsetting ngl
He was like âhonestly Iâm not sure, Iâll have to ask the concept designerâ
design speaks for itself
the artists get to write their own fiction sometimes, so it may have just been approved without too much thought
as in hugo didn't really think too hard on it, not that it made it in by mistake
Well I mean more of it actually being in the codex. He said he wasnât sure if it was based on it or not. But heâs in charge of the story and the codexes so itâs interesting that he overlooked it
Just like he didnât think too hard on the classic Earth connection question đ
I was typing that out đ
he answers semi important questions while being torn to shreds lol
Thatâs fair
I don't know how we manage to get so many actual dlc teasers with how much is said under pressure
Its funny since there's a clip of him saying the Eternal Earth is a separate Earth from the Classics
(Eternal Streams)
Literally true
He said it was different when he was talking about how itâs a sort of multiverse without being a traditional multiverse
Unless he flashes ARMOR on screen ong
They're good lil teasers but they're not anything that's too confidential, it's all pretty vague
DOOM: The Eternally Tomorrow Interesting Mobile Marok Armor Spear Dark Ages Archville (2016)
which is also funny since the Eternal art book is just like "yeah, fuck it, battlemode multiverse"
not that the eternal art book is the best place for lore though
Ye some of these may or may not be included
There was one time I asked him if Ahzraks armor was from Immora and he responded positively to it and I was like, I honestly donât even know if I should believe what you just said
And some can be interpreted in many ways
He gave good teasers, not too spoily and no nothing burgers
Besides the ones he repeats
Maykr Slayer canon confirmed
Honestly that would be cool hold up. What if the Slayer remained in the shackles of the Maykrs and never broke free
Wait isn't your profile the mayker slayer
What am I looking at
Very True, But from what we have had so far (and The reaction Marty gave on the 32nd Anny Stream) they seem to mostly partly, Definitely, affirmatively correct!
Maykr Slayer skin canon
Ig, he basically said "hmm welp y'all got it all in there"
I saw him say that and went âbro just confirmed the next antagonist for us, thanks Martyâ
a few years back I had planned on creating a series of short animation videos (with help, obv) inspired by marvel's What If..? series that explored the realities Eternal's skins come from. Maykr and Cultist slayers would've been two of the five episodes
it's more of just channel branding. I eventually settled on the Aurum skin back when TAG released and then switched to my own original maykr slayer inspired design when TDA was announced
That was one of the first ideas I wanted to do (minus the animation, thatâs gonna be time consuming af). Sort of a situational thing.
That wouldâve been cool for you to do. I wouldâve liked to see some of the alternative Slayer stuff get some âfunâ lore
Oh so this is your own design, is there a full image of the design?
Or just the head
Yeah, he put a Santa hat on it 
I wouldn't have been able to pay the people that would've done narration and art for the project prior to release so I scrapped it. they were good friends but I still felt really bad about taking up so much of their time with no reward
just the head at the moment, but I'm working on a channel rebrand with a full armor design. tbd on the release for that
Makyr Slayer Dark Ages skin would go hard.
It would probably have been a tedious production process. Totally get that. I wish some big YouTubers into animation went into making animations for doom like other franchises. Kinda like what deathbattleâs channel does with their modern animations
Ye I can get the decision
I imagine it with a hologram-esk cape
Animation is very tedious especially if you're trying your best to make it interesting each shot
Something on the lines of Spiderman 2099âs cape
Dw boi I'm here
I ain't big but
I'm building the blocks
No telling when/if weâll get any alternate model skins. Hope we will
(Like I'm gonna change anything)
The skins were one of Eternals best qualities
They donât really add much but the ability to have even the smallest bit of customization is sick
It was really engaging, very rewarding. Lots of work will have to go into the ones for TDA tho because of the cutscenes, battle damage, zombie slayer, etc
Eh
Maybe a nice side
But like one of the best qualities
This does not include gameplay
Doom 3 is peak Doom 3 is peak
Doom 3 is better then Doom eternal
Uh no
Shhhh
Doom 3 is amazing but not Eternal levels
Just agree with me for a sec
Doom 3 is doom
Doom 3 is better Doom 3 is better
Doom 1993/Ult Doom is Doom
doom3 is nah
And Katsu honestly just a skill issue if you don't enjoy it
Doom 2016 is just a lame shooting game and doom 3 is true doom
Trust
(I trust)
Exactly
Doom 2016 is a slop knock off

Doom 2016 is lame cartoon version of Doom 3
are you guys high?
Doom died after Doom 3, nothing came close to it
Doom 3 was John Carmackâs swan song
That beatiful man hand crafted everything with his mind
Those classic games are peak (Ignoring RPG 1&2)
Doom 3 had the best Doomguy and final boss fight and stamina meter
EVER
E v e r
I just absolutely LOVE the flashlight
Doom 3 big edition only made it BETTERRR
Masterfully woven in with gameplay
All wrong, DOOM 1993 Wasn't a true DOOM game
In all reality Doom 3 is pretty good but falls flat in a bunch of places
Doom 1993 and II were a prototype so they made Doom 3 to capture their intention
He needs to be humbled
And accept that Doom 3 is the cream of the crop
The highest peak
Acting like Doom 3 isnât the stepping stone for real peak like Heretic II
It's the stepping stone and it's also the big huge mountain that overshadows everything else
Best bfg= doom 3
Hey hey hey, lets not glaze TOO much
Yes
Best spider mastermind depiction/ stand-in is doom 3

Ok I can chill now
2016 BFG + weapon wheel
Can I retract everything I said now?
Hm