the-dark-ages

[subtle depot]

[crude sparrow]

eternal is defo my favorite out of all of them

[subtle depot]

Eye_Shake

[rose cargo]

eternal on console was fine but it wasn’t super challenging cause i played lower difficulty; played eternal on pc on ultra violence and wasn’t having fun during the expansions and the base game as the usual

[subtle depot]

ChadMike

[crude sparrow]

what do you think you didnt like about it?

[rose cargo]

eternal is:
extremely arena paced
way too much platforming
the constant lack of ammo
speed is really boring after enough time of playing
i feel like im overdoing it while playing but its quite literally what I have to do lol

feels less like a doom game more like a multiplayer power fantasy, imo

[subtle depot]

CacoPet

[crude sparrow]

idk that's exactly what I loved about it xD

but I understand it's not for everyone

THE SPEED

[rose cargo]

was fun at first but got boring really quick and the expansions didn’t exactly impress me

[fleet spruce]

i love TAG1 , Blood Swamps is probably the best level in Eternal

[rose cargo]

i am really liking the feeling of dark ages

[crude sparrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1163795643677020262/1454342874622595204/image.png?ex=6950bdd9&is=694f6c59&hm=a116ae190a312bd34cc9545c05153ed14ae4c0d5b682900d3bd9a529ec194467&=&format=webp&quality=lossless I made sure to get exactly 666 hours on the game

also actually did every milestone in the game xD

idk why but it looks cool

[rose cargo]

i feel more like a powerful knight, and not a ball of lightning and the movement is easier to control

[rose cargo]

tag1 was great but it had some issues that got way worse in tag 2

[crude sparrow]

I feel like the movement isnt as great in tda

I really miss air control

[rose cargo]

i do not miss air control

[fleet spruce]

well yeah, TDA has less emphasis on the movement

[rose cargo]

i love being on the ground like doom has always been about

[crude sparrow]

obviously since you're supposed to be like a tank but jumping just feels really hard to control

and the platforming in tda is kinda ehh because of it

[rose cargo]

jumping is a bit clunky but it’s fine compared to eternal’s double jump, dashing, melee boosting and really unfun platforming after doing it 20 times

[crude sparrow]

eternal's double dash and meathook were peak

[fleet spruce]

Causing a shockwave strong enough to falter bigger demons and killing fodder more than makes up for it imo

[crude sparrow]

true, but you dont get to utilize that a lot of the time I think

[rose cargo]

meathook is just a movement tool it barely feels like a true weapon mod

[fleet spruce]

I use it on revenants sometimes to force them out of their invincibility lmao

[crude sparrow]

that's what grappling hooks usually are for?

movement

eternal was pretty much entirely about movement so

[fleet spruce]

pretty sure they way people found to use meathook for wasn't original intention, but doing insane maneuvers with it is why meathook grappling points were made in tag2

[crude sparrow]

the shield bash in this game fills a similar role but more ground based to fit the gameplay style

[rose cargo]

and imo the game suffers from being more of a parkour game 😭 i don’t want to play eternal ultra nightmare cause of how u stay on the ground for more than a few seconds u die immediately

[fleet spruce]

anyway, as much as I love Eternal i feel much more at home with TDA's gameplay cause it does feel closer to original games. And with my 3 cents done I'm out of the convo

[crude sparrow]

idk I feel like I picked up eternal's verticality aspect really quick

[prime folio]

When I was doing my eternal UN run the game bricked my pc at the end of nekravol pt 2

[rose cargo]

i love the dragon riding

[crude sparrow]

doom 2016 was run and gun
eternal was jump and shoot
and tda is stand and fight

[thin hound]

Hugo’s words, but to be honest they are all just Rip & Tear to me

[crude sparrow]

however if you dont move around in either you still die

[rose cargo]

the parrying is interesting

the default parry window is absolutely hilarious though

[thin hound]

My play style is only slightly different between the games

[rose cargo]

i play tda similar to how i play the original games

[crude sparrow]

yeah I play all 3 pretty much like eternal ngl xD

[rose cargo]

eternal makes me break a sweat to clear one enemy horde

[crude sparrow]

even in tda I jump around a lot, swap weapons all the time and play on 130% speed

[thin hound]

It’s all the same game for me but with different equipment, weapons, and enemies to face

120/130% speed is the only way to play, anything more and the gravity feels weird and character dialogue is unnaturally fast

[crude sparrow]

I feel like the character dialogue being faster isn't intended xD

it weirdly only triggers sometimes too

[thin hound]

I noticed that too

[crude sparrow]

I beat my first UN run on 100% speed, only after that I tried 120 and later 130, never went back

100% speed now feels like slow-motion lol

I think I like how fast the demons are on 120% more but the faster weapon switching and run speed is what makes me stay on 130%

[fading bone]

120% is the sweet spot for sure for me

feels sooo good

[crude sparrow]

if I could go to like 125% maybe that'd be perfect for me

[obsidian shard]

YOU are a Weapon, I AM A GOD - Ahzrak

[crude sparrow]

he says that?

[obsidian shard]

Cut Line

[crude sparrow]

ah

[obsidian shard]

Its so peak

[crude sparrow]

why do all the cut lines always go so hard

[obsidian shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHoJi54FRXk&t=260s

only like 3 cut Lines

[crude sparrow]

does kreed have any cut lines?

[obsidian shard]

listening rn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LQHeesLJeE

[obsidian shard]

AALOT

[crude sparrow]

I see why they cut those they did tho

[obsidian shard]

"Sacrifice Yourself in the name of your kreed"

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-awesome-mario-twerking-gif-23644561

[obsidian shard]

ya same

[crude sparrow]

also he calls him a heretic in one of them

atp it's used like a slur against the slayer

[obsidian shard]

ya, Ahzrak uses it too

[crude sparrow]

is there a video like this for the witch also?

she's got a couple lines during the azhrak and witch bossfight too

[elder raven]

she does, i used it for the call of ulsamir

[obsidian shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEiVbK0u98E&t=179s
She call the old one the "God of Chaos" Which makes sense since the Cosmic Realm is Also referred too and almost named the "Chaos Realm"

[crude sparrow]

I wonder if the slayer has video like this as well 💀

[obsidian shard]

Only "RUN"
he was supposed to speak more, Other cutscenes have his mouth moving as if he was speaking and it was confirmed he was gonna talk more, but they were cut

[crude sparrow]

I think that's good imo

[thin hound]

One Word Slayer

[crude sparrow]

the slayer speaking should only be reserved for special occasions

[thin hound]

What word will he say in the next game?

[crude sparrow]

"I'm dooming it"

[thin hound]

“Sure”

[crude sparrow]

evil slayer be like:

[obsidian shard]

"You are DOOMed"

[crude sparrow]

also does anyone else think the slayer's pain groans are a weird inclusion?

I play with it off all the time I don't think it fits him

I didn't mind them in eternal though

[unkempt dragon]

Off to bed guys, have a great rest of your day/night!

[obsidian shard]

Good night GOAT, Sleep well!

[unkempt dragon]

Thank you Jay! See ya tmrrw

[fading bone]

which cutscenes are these?

[obsidian shard]

Abyssal Forest

[crude sparrow]

Yeah I remember watching some cutscenes with a mod that removes his helmet and noticed he opens his mouth quite a lot

[fading bone]

oh you have to mod the helmet off i see

i was gonna say i didnt think i saw him ever move his mouth

its good they decided to scrap all that

[crude sparrow]

Yeah I think him not speaking 99% of the time just adds more weight to the times he actually does say something

[heady trout]

less is more as some would say

[fading bone]

i just love the "no"

it's so good lol

[fleet spruce]

actions certainly speak louder than words

[crude sparrow]

"sticks and stones can break my bones" ahh

[brittle finch]

Chat

I got PT to run on a budget card and not look like complete shit

Still looks like shit tho

[fading bone]

what is pt

[green estuary]

path tracing

[fading bone]

for some reason i have lost the ability to parry hellknights ever since going to 120% speed

everything else feels fine to parry still but i keep missing their parries lol

[fleet spruce]

why even bother, performance loss is not worth it

[foggy fable]

I think the only game that even does proper path tracing is cyberpunk and even then it’s still a huge performance loss over raytracing

[hazy pasture]

True

[brittle finch]

It was just an experiment lol

I usually run 1600P DLSS Quality with max settings

[obsidian shard]

Peak

Also Howdy Luna!

[hazy pasture]

Peam

[brittle finch]

Haiii

[brittle finch]

Shit looks like real life cus I have a 16 inch P…

PANEL

:3

[fleet spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/pc-exploding-minecraft-rtx-gif-25263106

[spark elm]

Good to see my armor is at 100 after completing chapter 11 in my remade playthrough, so I think we’re in good hands

[hazy pasture]

Interesting

[spark elm]

It was so annoying to see it stuck at 80 max, so should be fine now

[fading bone]

me after losing my 3rd straight UN run today on siege 1

https://tenor.com/view/what-am-i-an-idiot-gerry-dee-family-feud-canada-do-you-think-im-dumb-do-i-look-stupid-gif-27099190

[crude sparrow]

siege 1 is goated

[fading bone]

it is a very fun mission but i keep dying in ways i never normally die lol

[thin hound]

Out of all three Maykrs, the Kreed definitely has the best boss fight

[slender night]

I feel the opposite actually, it felt a bit too arcadey and silly for the dark tone imo

[hazy pasture]

I think it fits Kreed's personality well

[thin hound]

The tone was clearly set by the music, that this dude is going to die and there’s no getting out of it

[hazy pasture]

He summons shit more than he does anything himself

[thin hound]

Felt pretty fitting to me

[hazy pasture]

Divine Retribution I suppose?

[thin hound]

Both tracks yeah

[hazy pasture]

I don't remember well

Oh I see

[slender night]

Yes the tone is set but you have flashy yellow walls flying around while dodging 500 flashy yellow projectiles like a Touhou game it kinda broke the immersion for me

[hazy pasture]

Yeah right

[thin hound]

Having tons of projectiles to dodge is fun

[hazy pasture]

Eh well heaving through the projectiles so yeah

[thin hound]

Much better than the extremely hard Samur Maykr fight or the constant AOE damage in Khan’s

[hazy pasture]

I find it pretty cool but to be fair, Kreed himself never was a gritty character

[thin hound]

The fight feels very desperate because he knows he’s screwed

[slender night]

The game is gritty though and with a fire objective like "Punish the Guilty" I would have expected a more dramatic fight than whatever that was

[hazy pasture]

I think you could say Samur would have fit into TDA more than anyone

[slender night]

Still better than RAGE 2's villain having a boss fight where he literally worms around on the floor like he's having a temper tantrum

[hazy pasture]

Well Kreed did what he did cuz he wanted to keep his power. Out desperation not outta the fact that he was on Slayer's level or something

That's why he summons drones mid fight in both phases

He can't deal with the Slayer himself so he needs help

[hazy pasture]

Oh yeah I remember

[slender night]

I get it's desperate but the Mastermind was desperate too throwing around random attacks but it was at least visually interesting and really fit the game's tone, here it's too colorful and the arena is too empty so it feels cheap

Gameplaywise it's fine I just don't like how it looks

[thin hound]

DOOM is colorful, even The Dark Ages, and that’s a good thing

Glowing projectiles make it visually interesting

[slender night]

I'm battling hordes of Hell not drawing my dog with crayons man I don't want it to be super colorful if it takes away from the seriousness

[crude sparrow]

yeah I mean just take a look at the glowing green parryable projectiles

[hazy pasture]

I mean I won't say Kreed's fight looks visually better than Khan's or Samur's but then again, Kreed was just a member of the Maykr Church and even a new one at that plus well, Kreed's ship looks pretty bland compared to other arenas

[thin hound]

Not really, the way enemies have vivid coloration makes each of them and their attacks unique, part of why DOOM is so awesome

[slender night]

That's not what I'm talking about

[slender night]

I never touched up on those and if you'd ask me about them I would also say they look a bit silly

[thin hound]

Damn you’re no fun

[slender night]

But there's a difference between those showing up in casual combat and here where this is a very desperate boss fight and ties into the plot

[hazy pasture]

Well make yo parry-able projectiles have the same colour as the non parry-able ones

I don't have much to complain here

[thin hound]

DOOM’s bright projectiles are infinitely better than boring bullets from other dull games

[hazy pasture]

It does look silly but then again, Doom was never meant to be super serious

[thin hound]

It’s serious enough in its own way, but not in a way that detracts from the cool factor

[hazy pasture]

I just found it funny to beat the shit outta fat chungus Maykr

[crude sparrow]

also that vagary attack where it's like 5 rows of fireballs that shit's cartoony as fuck

but I'm not complaining

[thin hound]

Maykrs have always had yellow glowing attacks, why would they change it

[hazy pasture]

I agree

[crude sparrow]

looks like a game of connect four

[hazy pasture]

I don't think that's the prob here

[hazy pasture]

Lmao

But the way Kreed was attacking made it a bit silly

[slender night]

Okay look, if you ask me what I think of the boss fight as a TDA fight I wouldn't complain about anything but the dull arena, here the starting statement was about judging it based on the other Maykr boss fights and the colorful flashy projectiles are something I can complain about there

[hazy pasture]

I mean that's fine

[thin hound]

I think every boss fight in TDA is awesomely done

[slender night]

The final boss is a bit too weak on default UV sliders but other than that yeah

[hazy pasture]

Yes

[thin hound]

Did you think the Trial of Maligog had a boring arena too?

[crude sparrow]

even default nightmare sliders are kinda easy ngl

[hazy pasture]

I would like to say that in general TDA's boss fights are better

[slender night]

No because it takes place in an open outside arena, where it being dull would make sense, and it wasn't even empty because there's like 5 other demons at the same time

[hazy pasture]

It was pretty good

[crude sparrow]

but I think the entire final level is basically supposed to be just a victory lap

[slender night]

The Kreed Maykr fight is mostly a 1v1 where, in the first phase, it takes place in an inside area you'd assume would have more to it but literally nothing is there

[slender night]

Yeah that berserk powerup in the final arena kinda feels that way

Idk though I'd appreciate if Ahzrak was beefier, he's very easy to dance around so it'd be cool to at least be able to chainshot him to death for a little longer

[crude sparrow]

it's like: you already won in the plot, heres one final level, go have fun

[thin hound]

Every boss could use a bit more HP in this game though

[crude sparrow]

if you want you can always lower the damage to demons slider

[fading bone]

since when is doom serious 💀

[slender night]

That's a joke right

I'm not saying it's a sigma wolf video game series I'm just saying that in this boss fight the colorfulness can detract from how high the tension is

[crude sparrow]

to be fair the story in tda was kinda trying to be but the gameplay is what matters so I think it's fine if the combat doesnt fit the art style and tone perfectly

[slender night]

Aside from the bright projectiles (which are easy to tone out anyway) and sometimes stupid ragdolls (ditto) I think the combat fits

[fading bone]

idk i play doom games to rip shit up i didnt think twice about the color of his projectiles

[crude sparrow]

the color is there to warn you about them xD

I think they do their job pretty well

[fleet spruce]

His fatass can't really attack physically so bullet hell makes sense

[slender night]

I know it's the only thing that makes sense but I still feel it's valid criticism that it feels a bit too arcadey

[crude sparrow]

but again, the entire game kinda is

[slender night]

I also know the bright yellow projectiles and hazards are because this is Maykr tech so they can't have them be fleshy dark material like the Mastermind had

So my criticism can't really be addressed. Doesn't mean I won't make it

[fading bone]

yeah idk i just thought "oh yeah its makyr its yellow thats just what color makyr shit is"

[slender night]

Aside from the empty area criticism, I think some decor would help

[crude sparrow]

yeah I guess thats alright, what even is that room supposed to be for xD

would make more sense if we fought in the slayer's chamber/holding cell maybe

[thin hound]

When you’ve got a mobile floating chair you don’t need furniture I suppose

[crude sparrow]

okay but what about the other maykrs

[thin hound]

They float too

[crude sparrow]

also why then do you need such a big room if you're just gonna leave it empty xD

[fading bone]

because you need to have a boss fight in there ofc

[crude sparrow]

yeah like we've been saying, for the gameplay it makes sense but lore wise not so much

[thin hound]

It’s the Kreed’s personal dance floor

[crude sparrow]

he just spins around in his chair all day 💀

[fading bone]

you guys actually look around the arenas youre fighting in?

[crude sparrow]

actually in the DLC we'll likely be able to walk around the kreed's ship and use it as a hub, maybe the slayer'll decorate the place up a bit

[thin hound]

Yeah his prototype Fortress of Doom

[harsh egret]

yh that room is his skating rink for spinning around in his free time

[crude sparrow]

with his maykr brand super computer with a rtx 5090 in it (sponsored)

[thin hound]

Not sure when this game takes place, so computers might still be like 90s ones at this time

[crude sparrow]

doomguy had a pretty sick sentinel pc setup in the fortress of doom in eternal

I assume the maykrs can probably do better than even that

[thin hound]

Yeah I remember, but that was 22nd century

They clearly based it in on Earth PCs

[crude sparrow]

it's still sentinel tech, not earth's

chat ngl I think we're overthinking it too much xD

[twilit stone]

you could say that about a lot of things in this franchise

[crude sparrow]

I think it was just supposed to be a haha look doomguy has a huge gaming setup moment and thats it

[thin hound]

PCs in DOOM can be used to theorize up an exact timeline maybe

It’s the best thing we’ve got

[crude sparrow]

that and the argent guitar

crucial to the development of the plot

[slender night]

Clearly the developers intended for this

[thin hound]

Guitars have been around for a long time though, doesn’t really help

[slender night]

They put in all that shit so people can theorize an exact timeline yeah

[thin hound]

It’s just a theory…

[twilit stone]

i mean isn't the timeline pretty clear?

[slender night]

It's not like Wolfenstein where in the 1960s they had 1990s technology but then there was literally zero technological advancement for the next 20 years

[thin hound]

The order of things is mostly, but exact years are not always

[slender night]

Stuff like this isn't meant to be picked apart

[crude sparrow]

one more thing

the markiplier book on doomguy's bookshelf

[thin hound]

You could say that about almost any game people theorize about

[crude sparrow]

that's gotta be important

[thin hound]

It’s canon but just an easter egg

[twilit stone]

that whole book shelf is just references lol

[crude sparrow]

this means markiplier is clearly canon in doom lore

[thin hound]

His dad is, not him

[crude sparrow]

yeah well mark probably is too then

[thin hound]

Maybe

But that’s just a theory

[crude sparrow]

A GAME-

[thin hound]

What about the picture in the fortress that shows a man, his wife, and a child, with the man’s face ripped out of the photograph?

Do we think the Slayer had a son?

[crude sparrow]

pretty sure that was supposed to be his family yes

[twilit stone]

i've heard some people that those are his parents and the kid is him as a baby

for some reason

[crude sparrow]

why cut out the father's face tho

[thin hound]

Doesn’t really make sense, and the Slayer isn’t blonde

[crude sparrow]

his hair definitely had a lighter color in the classic games tho

[slender night]

There's a difference between a photo that could imply he has a family and a book with Markiplier's dad on it 😭

[thin hound]

Yeah they’re both canon but the book doesn’t have lore significance

[crude sparrow]

yeah you're right the markiplier book is way more important to the story

[hazy pasture]

Hugo has already confirmed the kid and woman were his son and wife

Back in his Slayer's Club DOOM Eternal livestreams

[hazy pasture]

Agreed

Dadiplier wrote a great book

[wintry forge]

I wonder why they cut it at launch before patching it back in later. I can’t remember why, but I think Hugo briefly commented on it

[tropic adder]

Ah so THATS why everyone thinks it's removed! I always wondered and couldn't fing the answer. Maybe the texture on the asset needed more work, or they weren't sure if they wanted it there? Maybe they wanted to see ppl's initial reactions? I read about some store names being removed too, but I cannot comfirm if they were ever there.

[wintry forge]

Probably would need to see all patch notes or somehow downgrade to an earlier version, but I remember seeing that pic leaked online right before the games launch and people saying it was from his game room and I couldn’t find it anywhere, and neither could anybody else, until a few patches later

I’m pretty sure Hugo commented on the Eternal streams, but I can’t remember exactly. Doesn’t matter story-wise tho so I never looked too far into it. But that is a possibility

[tropic adder]

Maybe they planned to add it later in the game. Maybe with the DLCs, but it leaked and they just went like - ah well.

[tropic adder]

How does it not matter? It's literally Slayer's background? It could change the way you interpret Khan's lines? But it's neat that it's just an asset so anyone who doesn't like it can ignore it. ^^ I dig it.

It's sad that ppl here like to dismiss the idea of a Doom fam tho. And at the same time approve of certain shippments. Really sad. Meh.

[wintry forge]

Nah I’m saying it doesn’t matter story-wise because it’s in there, so I’m not gonna question why it wasn’t there for a few weeks at launch

[tropic adder]

Oh.

[wintry forge]

I think it’s interesting they put it there. Back before 2016 I always wondered about that stuff, if they died, what happened, all of that

[slender night]

I think it's refreshing to see them do this stuff instead of feeding into the Daisy stuff

[tropic adder]

Awww ;3
I also find Daisy important, tho. She evolved from a pet to a metaphor. Even has some mythical quality if we wanna look DEEP into it.

[slender night]

Daisy's important yeah but nowhere near what people make her out to be 😌

I've seen wild claims that she's like the ONLY reason he's like this and he wants to kill every demon in Hell to avenge purely her. And it's like, no lol, he lost a lot more than just Daisy, stop the flanderization

[tropic adder]

Well obviously that was a thing back with the clasicss. Its also a cool reason cuz like... its ridiculous. 😄

But yeah I like to think its a metaphor, rather than an actual rabbit, altho I do believe the real rabbit was involved there. And, again, like i said, keeping it vague is cool. Cuz we get to have these speculations.

[slender night]

I agree that keeping it vague is cool

Daisy does symbolize Hell's ruthlessness. It's definitely easier to see just how evil they are by having them butcher innocent animals than rampage humans. But I think that still blocking out every other victim of Hell and focusing solely on Daisy is silly

[wintry forge]

I find it hilarious that he’d rip apart hell because of his feelings of losing Daisy over the loss of his wife and son

[tropic adder]

However, I AM wondering about the store front. Does anyone remember a store front "Flynn's Fishing Gear" in SGN?

[tropic adder]

Maybe it's another John Wick scenario?

[slender night]

Who knew them clarifying what the ending of E3M8 was in E4M8 would lead to this domino effect

[thin hound]

Daisy is what drove him over the edge

[frail bloom]

Some gang vs the entirety of hell

Yup

[tropic adder]

I mean Slayer >>>> any gang.

[thin hound]

DOOM was before that movie though

[frail bloom]

I'm just saying

[slender night]

Entirely possible, I can see it being the last straw, but both things can be true at once, it doesn't have to mean it's the only reason he does what he does

[frail bloom]

The narrative juxtaposition is crazy

[thin hound]

Keanu Reeves is copying the Slayer

[slender night]

I'm actually pretty sure John Wick came out before the storytelling concept in DOOM of the Slayer doing what he does out of pure spite. In DOOM, DOOM II, and DOOM 64, he always had a reason

[tropic adder]

Ah naw I didnt mean that Doom took from Wick, just that it MIGHT be a similar situation. On purpose. And if so, its definitely the other way around. Also wasn't Wick's dog named Daisy too?

[tropic adder]

Hey, I understand doing things out of spite. That's my calling card. So this works for me lol

[thin hound]

If only the directors of those movies made a DOOM movie instead

[slender night]

No need we have a peak one already

[frail bloom]

Idk abt peak

Alright maybe

But peak

[tropic adder]

I actually liked the 2005 one. Is my guilty pleasure, even tho it's like very far from classic doom. It does nail D3 atmosphere tho. And i love the FPS sequence. And we, here, at home, joked that Rock was in the movie only so one of our friends would watch it with us.

[frail bloom]

Just saying

[thin hound]

It’s too disturbing when the victims are people being gored all the time, and the weapons are just boring bullet guns

[slender night]

Seeing The Rock not play the hero in a jungle movie is crazy whiplash man

[slender night]

I think it was meant to be disturbing, it's a thriller :p

[thin hound]

It’s fun to see aliens and zombies getting plasma, nails, and skull shards shot through them

[tropic adder]

What if thse aliens in the movie... were sentinels? Arent they stronger faster and more durable than regular humans? wink wink

[thin hound]

Why would that be fun to watch, they are basically almost humans

[tropic adder]

No, I meant the "gene" from the movie. That "ancient civilization found on mars". Blah blah.

[thin hound]

I don’t care about that movie, it’s not DOOM to me

[hazy pasture]

Greetings

[thin hound]

But Karl Urban does kind of look like the Slayer

[hazy pasture]

Hmm we talking bout the 2004 DOOM movie I see

[thin hound]

I wonder if when modeling the Slayer’s face they used his as a reference

[tropic adder]

I dont think the Karl Urban's character has anything to do with the slayer or any classic doomguy. If anything it's closer to doom3, even tho, it's not.

[slender night]

2005 🤓

[hazy pasture]

Umm akshually yes

[tropic adder]

Anyway I liked 2005 movie more than Annihilation... Simply cuz it felt "in yo face'. I hated that one of the characters who died was "Blazkowitz". But, other than that, the movie, uhhhhh 'events-wise', was closer to Doom than 2005, I must say. And that Hell scenery at the end was kinda cool Unreal Engine shit. xD

[slender night]

Annihilation is hot garbage

[thin hound]

They both are

[tropic adder]

Ye I was trying to be nice. 🙁

[thin hound]

But Annihilation is worse because it was made in 2019 and has no excuse for being bad

[tropic adder]

I second that. The budget seemed A LOT lower.

[slender night]

I mean there's also awesome movies from 2005...

[thin hound]

Yeah but it was before 2016 I mean, not just special effects

[spark elm]

I’ll be onto ch12 (SCS) and I haven’t died yet

[thin hound]

And the only one I can think of is Revenge of the Sith

[unkempt dragon]

Let's move this to #general please

[tropic adder]

Sorry. :X

[unkempt dragon]

ty

[spark elm]

All essences with chapter 12 if I remember right?

Well I’m gonna find out…

Oh just health.

[fleet spruce]

The memes have grown too big and people started treating it as a fact - which is both: hilarious and sad. Worth noting that this shit peaked when Eternal dropped.

[spark elm]

Nerathul

[hazy pasture]

Spire of

[spark elm]

Next in my new save, armor is 110

[merry sapphire]

it is still pretty good

its just more subnautica

more like an expansion/dlc

[merry sapphire]

how do you still have this issue Brah 😭

atp just roll with it gang you can do it

[spark elm]

I deleted the glitched save.

I’m up to Nerathul on the new one.

[merry sapphire]

i dont think his wife and son were killed by demons, they just up and went and died

[fervent maple]

I think that's the problem, it started out as a dlc and got too big, but it still feels like a dlc

I wonder if the TDA dlc will be standalone, actually

[merry sapphire]

how is that a problem i think thats sick

isnt below zero cheaper than the original game

[slender night]

It won't be since it's already in the store as a DLC for TDA

[fervent maple]

Ambition and budgeting I think, it feels too small and feels like it has too little

[warm ibex]

that doesn't mean they can't sell it separately though

TAG and TAG 2 could both be bought without owning Eternal

[slender night]

Yeah but there the campaign is a DLC for the launcher while for TDA the launcher IS the campaign

[fervent maple]

I think it would be less of an overall issue if the ideas it had felt more cohesive; none of this means that it's outright bad, just not as good as it could have been imo.

[fervent maple]

Preparing for the dlc to be a license, with the actual content bloating the install size of TDA to 100 gb

[warm ibex]

100+ gb

https://tenor.com/view/doom-slayer-walter-white-fall-gif-21082245

[slender night]

TDA and Eternal currently eat up over a third of my internal storage 💔

And I don't even have that much installed aside from them

[fervent maple]

My 1 TB SSD screaming in agony as it watches me install idStudio on top of all my other crap

[empty furnace]

i beat the first mech level

[slender night]

300 GB internal storage 🥀
Thank you Microsoft

I have a 1 TB external HDD at least so it's not like I'm limited in options in general but I'm limited in modern options

[empty furnace]

this MIGHT be my favorite doom game oat

[fervent maple]

I feel that, I have to rotate my games out a lot on my SSD

[slender night]

I don't wanna do that but I'm gonna have to ugh

I gave up one game so far to fit all my other ones in but that was one I didn't really care about, now my SSD is full of games I treasure

[wintry forge]

I remember when 2016 dropped, it was like 80gb or something, I had very little games on my ps4 because of it

[merry sapphire]

well yeah thats why its cheaper

if it was the same price as the original game id understand

but i think for its price its a pretty good game

its just more subnautica

[slender night]

Filesize used to matter to me because of the download speed but now it matters because of storage, holy SHIT I do NOT want to spend 200 dollars on a 2TB SSD expansion for my XSS

[merry sapphire]

the seatruck was sick. though i miss the cyclops

i should play SubNautica again

[wintry forge]

You’re gonna have to brother

[slender night]

[merry sapphire]

helldivers 2 manage to crunch the game from like 120 gigabytes to 20 gigs. so games dont really got any excuses to be that big

gta6 was confirmed by xbox to be around 600 gigs so yall brace for that

[fervent maple]

What in the name of god

[slender night]

Another issue is that on Xbox if a game is marked as optimized for next-gen it HAS to be installed to the internal storage even if it absolutely does not need it whatsoever

I have a few games that are 1:1 identical to their Xbox One counterparts that I need to keep on internal storage

[merry sapphire]

is it because of their directstorage ssd technology stuff?

[slender night]

I like your funny words magic man

[fervent maple]

All I find when I look this up is that it's gonna be 676.7 gb

[slender night]

RAGE 1 unoptimized apparently took up 1tb

[fleet spruce]

thank god I don't play these games

Largest game on my storage is Halo MCC lmao

[merry sapphire]

biggest game in my library is tekken 8. its 125 gigs for some Fuck ass Reason

the next one is marvel rivals wit 110 which is Worrying me cause like 6 months ago it was around 70-80 if im not mistaken

[slender night]

This is what my internal storage looks like

Very visible that DOOM is just hogging up all the estate

[merry sapphire]

Sonic SnoozeTiers 😪 💤

[slender night]

Also yes I'm normal I recognize this is a very surreal selection of games

[merry sapphire]

im guessing that when the dlc drops, TDA is gonna be around 130 gigs

[slender night]

40 GB jump from DLC doesn't seem all that viable until I look at Eternal

[merry sapphire]

40 gigabyte doom eternal my beloved

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-gif-12376187993725588166

That's like

[merry sapphire]

thats like Two cod Games!!!

[frail bloom]

6.74 dark ages

That's insanity

No way this game is that worth it🙏

I see hype everywhere I go but who the hell has spare space for 600 gigs

[slender night]

To be fair TDA's filesize in itself is a bit crazy if we compare it to other games

[fleet spruce]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/717363111308427309/1454559593991504045/image.png?ex=695187af&is=6950362f&hm=5325bcbf0b8f89e3fec6fdef99750c448f3cdc71c0acb5cabbed0b51709b8b76&

[frail bloom]

To be fair

600 gigs is ridiculous

[slender night]

Obviously these aren't comparable but one TDA is like 192 Rayman 2s

[slender night]

C: drive???

[fleet spruce]

yeah , internal storage

[frail bloom]

So I know nothing abt this

But do y'all think gta 6 will sell well

[slender night]

Vroklahoma the C drive is mainly for the OS that's the rule of thumb

[slender night]

Wolfenstein sold poorly so anything can happen

[frail bloom]

Just

Who is deleting all their games for one game

[slender night]

People who have been waiting over a decade for a game

[frail bloom]

Ye fair

I had gta 5 but I never got far and I never really liked the game

Never understood why others liked it

[slender night]

I tried 3 4 and 5. 3 had fine gameplay but was sorta repetetive, 4 had cool story but the clunky ass gameplay put me off, and 5 had incredible open world gameplay but I dreaded the story missions. Granted I never got far in 4 or 5

[frail bloom]

Granted, I was like 6

Maybe 8

But never captivated me

I was gonna say smt but nah

[fleet spruce]

i used to play gta sa when i was a kid but i didn't really have other games on pc, then we got internet and i ventured into the depths of counter strike 1.6 before playing original quake and doom in 2014 just before teasers for 2016 dropped

[slender night]

My childhood game was Rayman 2

Hopefully the remake rumors are true

[fleet spruce]

pretty sure i played that on dreamcast

when my brother had one

[gusty seal]

Resuming my max slider run soon 😄

[harsh egret]

Very overrated game imo, at least the story mode

[harsh egret]

Did u dodge making the joke on purpose?

[harsh egret]

Also no, that wasnt confirmed and its been confirmed it is going to be alot less than that

Also the leaked number was 676.7gb... lets be real

[hot lava]

Just a PSA for the channel to stay on topic as much as possible. This is not a “general 2” channel or similar. Disciplinary action will be taken if this is not followed moving forward. Keep on topic: THE DARK AGES and related topics

[thin hound]

GTA is an abbreviation for The Dark Ages DLC or something

I don’t know

[harsh sable]

Soundtrack still SLAPS even without Mick

[tropic adder]

I like it the most tbf, dont throw rocks at me. 🙌🏻

[harsh egret]

You and me ain't the only ones here who feel that way

[slender night]

It's weirdly easy to get sucked into off-topic discussions in this channel

[thin hound]

Well it makes sense considering the limitations facing Mick in the last two games and because The Dark Ages is a much longer game

I feel like it has the greatest number of good heavy tracks between the OSTs

[warm ibex]

the orchestral elements are what takes it above Mick's work for me personally

it adds drama to the OST and I like that. It's a little more than just raw metal or djent

[tropic adder]

I just like it more because it sounds like actual metal. >.>
Not to say Mick's work is bad, it's just... I'm a metalhead and I like my metal METAL.

[warm ibex]

not to say that Mick's tracks didn't work well with the cutscenes but TDA has a legitimate story to tell and it's boosted substantially by the addition of cinematic tracks

[warm ibex]

it's metal metal instead of electronic metal (broad term but you know what I mean)

which I also like more at times

[slender night]

Mick did an awesome job with Wolfenstein, the pure thrill and tension in some of those tracks is magnificent, so while I don't doubt he could make a great TDA OST, I'm not gonna lament that he didn't. I had high expectations and FM outdid them

[warm ibex]

I'll sound like a broken record but I'm glad someone new got to tackle doom. cannot express enough how badly I want them to swap composers every few games (assuming they continue to introduce a new era of doom every few games)

Mick absolutely would've knocked it out of the park with TDA, zero doubt about that. very good to have fresh talent though

[slender night]

I don't know if they'll do that since the backlash for not rehiring Mick was strong and you can still see people complain under TDA tracks. If they strike gold they'll probably cling onto it

[warm ibex]

I don't think it's really the same thing here

quite a few folks have a very unhealthy, almost parasocial relationship with Mick. As long as the switch to a new group is on good terms I can't see people aggressively clinging on to FM in the same way that they cling to Mick

[slender night]

Meh we'd both be just making predictions, there's barely any statistics because they haven't been intentionally swapping out composers yet

[warm ibex]

that's not necessarily true

they swapped from Hulshult and Levy to FM

[slender night]

Okay yeah that is true

[exotic shuttle]

yooo

I have that irl

the cacodemon toy

[slender night]

That's awesome, you have a mini AnomeQ

[exotic shuttle]

🔥

[obsidian shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/971218217852862544/1450980209464574144/scream_if_you_love_4.gif

The Dusk OST is one of my favs

Simplistic but so good and fitting

I liked the fan track Levy made, But it did not fit TDA, It felt like something from TAG

[hot lava]

With this fresh reminder it should go from “weird” to normal to avoid going off topic

[slender night]

I don't think anyone finds it weird

[unkempt dragon]

Anome you need to drop things please and stop trying to get the last word in. Let's move on.

[rose cargo]

hola

done w ancestral forge (i have an obsession with dark ages)

[obsidian shard]

Peam

How are the cutscenes?

[rose cargo]

i’m getting the hang of the weapons and the swapping i unlocked shield runes just earlier, the cutscenes are cool and amazing

[slender night]

I would understand this response if I was being hostile but I wasn't... I was just clarifying because I thought the usage of weird in quotations meant it's referring to my message...

[queen girder]

I honest to God think that it's a crime that hellspawn rift is not talked about more. It is such a good track.

[harsh egret]

I think its cuz the levels it plays in themselves aren't talked about too much either tbh, but its one of those tracks thats been growing on me

[queen girder]

DUDE THE GAMERIP

OMLLLLL

its SOOO good

I think

[harsh egret]

I actually havent listened to it icl, i just know i was jamming last time I played the game

[queen girder]

I think the slap guitar is the best part

2nd to the snare only

I just love it sm

[obsidian shard]

I downloaded a few game rips and added them to my Spotify

[slender night]

I have never listened to Hellspawn Rift somehow

[obsidian shard]

Plus the Music works so well for really intense DND combat

What

Also the light combat bits also work well

[violet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-general-kenobi-you-are-a-bold-one-gif-24099755

[warm ibex]

yeah his fan track was great, just not what I'd want from TDA. Finishing Move set the tone for medieval doom perfectly

I'd love for him to get to score more doom projects in the future though, he's very talented

[frail bloom]

No no horde this is warhammer doom it should have eletric microwave sounds in it

And btw the fm ost is for "peasant brain metal heads obv"

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-computer-notebook-explaning-gif-21152267

[frail bloom]

No joke someone told me that in a reply

I commented on Levy's music vid, gave it an 8/10 but prefaced that his work is very derivative of his Immora and bloodswamps work and that he should produce a more unique sound, and then some guy tells me it's warhammer doom so it doesn't matter

With a ryan gosling pfp

[empty furnace]

fun fact: doom the dark ages is some poor sentinel’s FIRST day on the job

[twilit stone]

i have to assume it's a lot of Sentinel's first day considering how many of them die

[heady trout]

what exactly is a lone Sentinel equipped with nothing but a shredder supposed to do in the face of two stone imps charging straight at them

"i love my job"

[ionic glade]

A little late to this convo but I’m glad people here give FM their flowers for the OST. It’s phenomenal and definitely more in line with my personal tastes compared to Mick (and Mick’s is of course amazing). David and Andrew were also great. UAC Atlantica is still my favorite battle track overall for new Doom.

Everyone has their preferences for music but the people who think the Dark Ages ost is garbage either didn’t give it a proper shot (and never were), don’t actually listen to metal/Mick was their first exposure to it, just blindly hate it because it’s not Mick, or hate what Marty did to him which wasn’t FM’s fault at all. Plus if you ask these people their fav tracks from Mick it’s almost always TOTTFIY, BFG Division, or Rip and Tear, maybe Meathook. Never Damnation, Skullhacker, Icon of Sin, Gladiator, etc. which makes me think they don’t even really listen to the entire Doom 2016 or Eternal soundtracks/gamerips. I’m rambling, but these are observations I’ve made while reading people’s negative comments or vids discussing TDA.

[frail bloom]

Well I agree

It's not a perfect ost but you got ppl her calling it bad

unlistenable

Did we listen to the same thing?

Bruh

[twilit stone]

those people operate in extremes, it's either the best thing ever or the worst thing known to man, no in-between

[heady trout]

exactly

its so insufferable, i read a comment that said it sounded like ai generated generic slop and im like "you probably failed school"

[unkempt dragon]

wtf

[ionic glade]

And if you like it, you’re a shill

[heady trout]

internet operates in extremes but this is ludicrous

[heady trout]

also this, if you like it your a normie corporate shill

actual lobotomy behavior

[frail bloom]

Ain't even the correct usage of the word too

[heady trout]

yeah

[frail bloom]

I ain't trying to sell anyone on smt I'm just sharing my opinion

[twilit stone]

i'd give the score as a whole a 7-8/10. Tracks like Ancestral Beast, Hellspawn Rift, Unholy Siege and Into the Void really stick out to me, but the argument that some of the tracks blend together and feel samey isn't exactly false either. It's a nuanced discussion, but a lot of people can't be bothered with that so extremism takes all!

[frail bloom]

Pretty fair take

I give it an 8.5/10

[heady trout]

see I don't mind the hate as long as its presented in a way that doesn't seem like buzzword soup and hate train

[heady trout]

y'know nuance, an actual opinion and not something that sounds like a twitter ragebait bot created the opinion to bother people and farm engagement

[twilit stone]

oh and that one in the Abyssal Forest/Ancestral Forge, forgor the name

[heady trout]

the internet has rotted so many peoples brains, they legitimately think shouting "slop and corporate" is a opinion and not the words of mentally ill, uneducated child

[warm ibex]

another part of the OST criticism (and the TDA hate in general): people don't actually know what "bad" means anymore! can not tell you the amount of people that leave comments saying the soundtrack or even the whole game is irredeemable trash

[heady trout]

^

they just follow some YouTubers opinions

or don't even give the game a second

nope all black and white lobotomy opinions

[frail bloom]

I'd say it's mostly the mick debacle, ppl have not let that go and it's been almost half a decade

Now they're little activists

[heady trout]

like my brother in Christ, its fine to hate. But do it like a decent, intelligent human being and not a child

[frail bloom]

"Pay mick"

[warm ibex]

I do think it's kind of amusing. We have so many legitimately bad games and movies releasing on a regular basis that you'd think it would be practically impossible to forget what a bad game actually feels like

[ionic glade]

Saw a thumbnail calling it parry slop and was like “nope not taking the bait on this one.”

[heady trout]

its an actual complex, they can't like non Mick stuff bc in their eyes its a betrayal, its being a corporate shill

[frail bloom]

Also the misuse of the word slop

[ionic glade]

Just gonna be a mix and match of buzzwords and hate circlejerk

[frail bloom]

Slop is smt that's been done to death and in a mediocre matter

[heady trout]

alot of channels realize by now that doing ragebait farms engagement

[warm ibex]

the parry slop argument is also admittedly very funny. you can kinda just slap "slop" at the end of anything and it'll pass as real criticism

[heady trout]

we getting close to Idiocracy every day

[frail bloom]

And dark ages is one of the most unique fps I've played

[ionic glade]

Doom TDA is qualityslop, I like it cause it’s good

[heady trout]

🙏

[twilit stone]

Bobby Prince and Aubrey Hodges just don't exist to these people lol

there was no one doing DOOM osts before Mick apparently

[frail bloom]

They secretly despise those composers they just got to

No way you listen to bobby, then fm and you're like "nah not doom"

[heady trout]

hive mind lobotomy behavior
-pay mick
-everything non mick is corporate shill slop that should crash and burn
-yall are normies and stupid totally not me

[frail bloom]

I'm unique

[heady trout]

IM SPECIAL GUYS IM SPECIAL

[frail bloom]

Look at me I'm fighting against the corporate power

And y'all enjoy your disgusting slop

[twilit stone]

continues to sit in bedroom continuing to play and buy said slop

[frail bloom]

Mhm

[heady trout]

these types of hive mind individuals also consume so much ai slop too

regardless its paramount to distinguish the dumbasses from normal haters

I've seen Dark Ages haters that have the common courtesy to talk like normal people and explain their opinions in a sensible, understandable way

not like a 8 year old Tiktoker

[unkempt dragon]

alright everyone calm down

[frail bloom]

Alr

[unkempt dragon]

thank ya

[heady trout]

i dont know what i said that made it seem like i wasn't calm but ok

[ionic glade]

Been meaning to tell you, I finished up Quake 1 and all the official content and beat the Quake 2 main campaign. Started working on the quake mods that are available on PS5. Excellent stuff

To switch it up, I’d rank the OSTs as follows for modern Doom (based on my own music preferences of course):

1. TDA
2. TAG1
3. Eternal Base game
4. TAG2
5. 2016

Curious to hear others opinions

[heady trout]

i couldn't really rank them, i like all of them mostly equally

i guess 2016 would be the lowest doe, still fire

[twilit stone]

mine's like the exact opposite lol

[spark elm]

GGs Finishing Move Inc on the album this year. Masterful work.

[young schooner]

For me it's

1. TAG
2. TDA
3. Eternal
4. 2016

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/long-tears-gif-11087877242190144149

2016 😔

[sonic vale]

can someone help me I think my games bugged

Im on chapter 12 of TDA and Im almost done with the chapter but Im in a room where some demons spawn and red democ gates cover the exits

I killed all of the demons but i think theres supposed to be more cause the gates wont drop and I cant go anywhere else

Does anyone have a wall clip of a fix to this bug because I have reloded the game and chapter multiple times

[unkempt dragon]

you said it for me lmao

🥀

[empty furnace]

i reached abyssal forest

[unkempt dragon]

I would give @young schooner a joking hard time about it but he stated the other day it's by a very small margin and the game is still like a 9/10

[harsh sable]

Why would i? I agree with you

[harsh sable]

For sure! And i think that this soundtrack encapsulates new doom so much better

[merry sapphire]

i think people's opinion of TDA's ost would have been alot better if the soundtrack was actually mixed well in the game at launch

could barely hear the soundtrack when playing and the good part of the songs usually doesnt even play in combat

i remember hearing the spotify mix and was like holy shit this is so much better than i remember

[harsh sable]

I got it late (yesterday) and i haven’t experienced any issues, has it been patched?

[hard thistle]

cant believe we finally got a fat white man boss fight in a doom game

[obsidian shard]

Ya, it was patched like 4 months ago

(Update 2)

[harsh sable]

Oh ok!

[hard thistle]

wait actually didnt doom 3 also have a white man bossfight?

[empty furnace]

do yall prefer accelerator or cycler

[empty furnace]

insert unfunny caseoh joke

[hard thistle]

they're the same to me

[frail bloom]

Nah it's bordering on mid

[harsh sable]

I use the cycler a lot more

[frail bloom]

Fight me

I'll die on this tiny hill

[harsh sable]

I thought it was alright at first but now idk i dont like it as much as some of the other game osts

[hard thistle]

the combat is slow and all the arenas feel the same

[obsidian shard]

You are banned

[frail bloom]

No not the game, the ost

[hard thistle]

oh

[obsidian shard]

Yup your dead

[frail bloom]

Won't stop me

[hard thistle]

i actually really liked 2016 ost

[frail bloom]

[hard thistle]

i bought it on steam

[harsh sable]

Not saying its bad by any means

[frail bloom]

I like it but

Out of the others, nah

[obsidian shard]

2016 OST got me into doom music, I cannot love TDA OST without thanking the 2016 OST

[harsh sable]

Fair nuff

[frail bloom]

I can give it it's flowers

But those flowers withered away and now idc

[unkempt dragon]

🗣️

[frail bloom]

So yeah

Hot take

[unkempt dragon]

withered away 😭

[hard thistle]

personally i rank 2016 over eternal mostly because of my personal vendetta against what they did to poor mick for eternal

[harsh sable]

Still pissed at bethesda for that

[frail bloom]

Someone likes bethesda?

[fading osprey]

That is true

[unkempt dragon]

not this again pleaseee

[frail bloom]

This story is never straight idk how to even describe it anymore

[unkempt dragon]

don't

[frail bloom]

Ik

[unkempt dragon]

for the love of all please

lol

[harsh sable]

But thts a whole can of worms

And im not opening that rn

[frail bloom]

What worms

[unkempt dragon]

It is and I've had a long enough day

[frail bloom]

Tape worms, earth worms

[unkempt dragon]

thanks fam

[harsh sable]

Blood worms?

[frail bloom]

So leeches

[unkempt dragon]

gummy worm

[fading osprey]

Sandworms?

[harsh sable]

Yes

[frail bloom]

But that's innocent

[hard thistle]

though bethesda is handling id and doom much better than i thought they would, that is to say, they havent killed either yet

[unkempt dragon]

oh. uhhh ringworm

[frail bloom]

Can the size of australia

[frail bloom]

Ew.

[unkempt dragon]

your fault

[frail bloom]

I forgot abt ringworms

[obsidian shard]

Erm actually it's not a worm

[hard thistle]

i thought ringworm was a fungus

[frail bloom]

Actual horror

[obsidian shard]

Fungus/skin Infection

[harsh sable]

Also sorry for my weird text timing. Playing doom eternal rn

[frail bloom]

Ok moving on

[delicate basin]

Guys is Dark Ages worth IT?

[unkempt dragon]

I know but funni

[foggy fable]

TDA hearing how much people loved the tentacles from the purple slime and made them larger

[harsh sable]

Yes

[obsidian shard]

Peak

[delicate basin]

okay

[frail bloom]

What do you think

[foggy fable]

Depends

[delicate basin]

I haven't played that's why I asked

[frail bloom]

What are you expecting

What are you open to

[foggy fable]

At this stage def not worth full price it’s old already. But if on sale probably. Do you like fps games? Probably good option

[delicate basin]

Doom eternal with a shield and a dragon

[frail bloom]

Ruh roh

[hard thistle]

i personally wouldnt buy the deluxe edition or collectors edition or whatever its called but yeah its peak

[frail bloom]

Gotta take a few steps back brochaco

[harsh sable]

It’s uhh differently paced

[obsidian shard]

It's NOT DOOM Eternal

[hard thistle]

its hasnt even been a year yet wdym

[delicate basin]

Oh is more like 2016?

[frail bloom]

It's classic doom, with a shield and melee

[harsh sable]

No dance to master really

[delicate basin]

Oh hell yea we going back to 96

[harsh sable]

93

[frail bloom]

93*

[delicate basin]

That's what I Meant

[obsidian shard]

It's DOOM: The Dark Ages is the best way to describe it since it's own unique spin

[foggy fable]

Once it’s past 4 months I don’t consider a game “new” anymore. And thus shouldn’t be purchased full price. And it’s been over 6

[harsh sable]

Steam has it half off

[unkempt dragon]

I still consider my 2011 car newish hahah ahh

[harsh sable]

I got it for like 35 usd

[foggy fable]

Got that retro car
👀

[unkempt dragon]

The Steam sales are the way to go with Doom games

[hard thistle]

pc gamers man...

[foggy fable]

I don’t play on pc

[harsh sable]

Imma keep it a buck, thats why i held off on getting tda

[foggy fable]

At this age of it very solid

[obsidian shard]

Everywhere does

(Steam Xbox and PS)

[foggy fable]

Plus the expansion is coming “soon”™

[harsh sable]

Huh, i didn’t know that

[foggy fable]

But always be money conscious it’s a good life goal.

[obsidian shard]

You mean "DOOM: The Eternally Tomorrow Interesting Mobile Marok Armor Spear Dark Ages Archville (2016)"?

[hard thistle]

standard fare christmas deal

[harsh sable]

Ohh

[hard thistle]

if they add archviles in the dlc i swear

[foggy fable]

If I have to guess. The expansion will likely be $20-30

[obsidian shard]

Guess what

[foggy fable]

Closer to $30 probably

[foggy fable]

You now get invisible flying archviles

[hard thistle]

i missed a trailer didnt i

[obsidian shard]

No lol, Hugo gives Interesting hints during the live streams
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/971218217852862544/1432832917859598397/Interesting....png?ex=69519724&is=695045a4&hm=28c503ffe4eaf8dd406602cc76b8ea0a27964257737a240cf9d11726fb55ffb1&

[hard thistle]

oh yeah i remember
armour?

[obsidian shard]

Yes

"Armour" so you must be Canadian or European?

(I'm Canadian)

[hard thistle]

its gonna be so funny ehen its just a 5 minute flashback cutscene of doom guy getting his suit tailored

[harsh sable]

What part? If you’re comfortable telling

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/nod-mhm-approve-yup-approval-gif-15028249

[obsidian shard]

BC!

[hard thistle]

im american but i was raised in britain

[harsh sable]

Nice! I wanna move there lowk (im in Colorado rn)

[obsidian shard]

Coolio

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-rage-bait-baited-rage-baited-angry-dog-gif-2047466162835898859

[elder raven]

even better: doomguy arguing with someone after his armor was misplaced at a dry cleaners

[twilit stone]

UUUUURrr mid

[rose cargo]

long as we don’t get spirits in dark ages i’m fine

[twilit stone]

the only thing close to it are those blue demons that make all the demons stronger until you kill it

[fleet spruce]

nothing a rocket launcher can't fix

[mystic barn]

Mine would be:

1. TDA
2. TAG1
3. 2016
4. Eternal
5. TAG2

The sameiness and simplicity of World Spear, Reclaimed Earth, and Davoth really irk me. The Immora suite is the only one that I think stands head and shoulders above the rest. Eternal is bogged down by some lacklustre tracks. Although they weren't meant to be released, songs like Consumption and Asteroids & Rockets aren't all that interesting and they're difficult to ignore. The music that was meant to go in-game is good though. 2016 is a little anonymous, but the production is phenomenal. TAG1 and TDA are just great and lacking a single bad song. TDA ranks higher though for its ability to tie narrative, character, and the score all in one little package

[twilit stone]

i can get behind this

[crude sparrow]

I think

1. Eternal
2. Tda
3. Tag 2
4. 2016
5. Tag

[fading bone]

im the same except put 2016 up one

the tag soundtracks just didnt work for me for some reason i barely felt like i noticed them

[crude sparrow]

Maybe, but tag 2 being a dlc means it doesn't have that many tracks altogether

[twilit stone]

probably cuz they're really quiet in the mix for some reason

[crude sparrow]

Still, the end credits music, immora with the double bass pedal, even reclaimed earth was fire

[fading bone]

i could likely be persuaded easily

[twilit stone]

immora fucks so hard

[fading bone]

im just too much of a s i m p for some bfg division, meathook, all they fear etc.

but TDA basically ties that tbh

[crude sparrow]

Imo 2016 cooks more in the ambient tracks

The combat ones are still fire obviously just there's only like 3 or 4 really memorable ones

[fading bone]

why cant i edit my message to say s i m p lol

[twilit stone]

i find every track in 2016 memorable, like I remember almost every single one beat-for-beat

[fading bone]

i will say that i feel like theres certain songs in the other sound tracks that i dont fully vibe with as much but for TDA every single song is an absolute banger

but eternal has some extremely high peaks

[twilit stone]

Metal Hell and Hell on Earth are Eternal's best imo

[crude sparrow]

Meathook 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[fading bone]

meathook 🗣️

[fleet spruce]

Trial of Maligog

[crude sparrow]

I'd say I like meathook more than even the only thing they fear is you

[fading bone]

BAW ba nana BAW ba nana BAW BAW ba nana

[green estuary]

tbh meathook gets so annoying when you're grinding the taras nabad ML

[fading bone]

i will never get annoyed at meathook

[green estuary]

every combat encounter it's the same exact riff, no variation

[crude sparrow]

Yeah I'd just be jamming away

[fading bone]

that sound IS doom for all im concerned

[crude sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-vibe-vibing-vibing-cat-chill-gif-5242638067070560396

[twilit stone]

Meathook's pretty good, I prefer its ambient theme to the main riffs tho, it's very melancholy

[fading bone]

yeah i can tell you like the ambient stuff more lol

[crude sparrow]

Eternal also had that heavy metal choir

[fading bone]

which is chill

[fleet spruce]

https://youtu.be/F_1l6oDwilg?si=G0-ckzoDFkbVHkv4

[green estuary]

bfg 10k and sgn are probably my favorite eternal main campaign tracks

[twilit stone]

i just like the parts of these songs that are weird and not just straight metal i suppose

[fleet spruce]

I literally had to turn volume up when i heard BFG 10k

[twilit stone]

like the parts in unholy siege with the drums, or the buildup parts in Damnation

[crude sparrow]

The drums on BFG 10k are peak

[green estuary]

that's just all the doom games
I think I have all sound effects except music turned down to 30%

[fading bone]

yeah i turn everything down and music at max lol

[crude sparrow]

I had it like that for the first couple weeks after tda released

Then they patched it

[green estuary]

the sound effects are too loud by default anyways, even when the mixing is on point

[crude sparrow]

I've noticed that 2016's music is still pretty quiet

At 100% it plays like tda's equivalent of 50

[twilit stone]

i could hear TDA's music fine when I played it at launch, and now I think it may actually have the best mixing of the whole trilogy in terms of the OST

[fading bone]

yeah its REALLY good now

[fleet spruce]

due to how audio profiles are set up on my Ally X i had to turn other shit down and music at 100% , now at 40% system volume it sounds great

and man Eternal is pretty quiet so I'll have to mess with audio there as well for best results ffs

it makes voices louder than the music sometimes

[fading bone]

for some reason in 2016 the cutscene voices are really quiet for me

like whenever hayden is talking to me i can barely hear him

but when hes talking while im still playing its fine

[fleet spruce]

does your PC have Dolby software or something that came with the hardware?

worth checking out

[spark elm]

Swimming is limited yes or no?

[harsh sable]

In my experience, no

(I was trying to figure out a secret underwater)

[fading bone]

i dont have anything dolby on my PC no

[fleet spruce]

just anything related to the audio hardware in general is what I meant

anyway, stuff like this in TDA is what ascends me into dimensions beyond
https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxwxyObIhXr0FvGE7O8im8dewK8OQ2nQv-

[fading bone]

i think i have decided that doing UN runs is NOT actually how i find enjoyment with doom lol

[obsidian shard]

Phalanx skin aquired

[crude sparrow]

Which one is that

[hard thistle]

what is the deal with the cosmic realm? like i get its some etherial plane or something but its just kinda giving off hell 2: green vibes

[fleet spruce]

dimension beyond known Doom universe prior to TDA, quite possibly way older than anything in series, even predating Jekkad

I don't see the hell 2 in it tho

only similarity to hell, perhaps, is the ability to corrupt

[fading bone]

yeah its even cooler than hell

very trippy shit happening in there

[hazy pasture]

Back when tag 2 released and all, the lore had talked about a dimension called Void which predated Jekkad

And was supposedly the home of the being who created Davoth

CR could be the so speculated Void or maybe not

But CR is def a realm with more constant chaos than Hell

Also very Lovecrafty so yeah

[obsidian shard]

The red one (with McFarlane toys fig)

[crude sparrow]

Are people selling codes for it?

Or did you get the actual figure

[obsidian shard]

I got the fig

[crude sparrow]

Oh cool

[twilit stone]

In my headcanon, its the Quake realm

[hazy pasture]

Phalanx boi

[crude sparrow]

I'm only missing 2 skins right now, that red one and the one from the energy drink collab or whatever it was

I signed up for it but didn't receive anything :/

[obsidian shard]

You have the GPU one???

[crude sparrow]

Oh xD yeah that one as well

[hazy pasture]

Holy moly

[crude sparrow]

Forgot about that one

[hazy pasture]

Oh

[obsidian shard]

Ahh, that's also the only one I'm missing

[crude sparrow]

No I mean I don't have it

[hazy pasture]

Kewk

I think a rare amount of peeps have that

[obsidian shard]

I myself quite enjoy the reskins! I'm a simple man

[crude sparrow]

I got the ranger one from a friend in the US, got him to order the pizza and give the skin code to me

[obsidian shard]

Also Howdy Doc. How ya doing?

[hazy pasture]

Greetings Sneaky

[obsidian shard]

Same.

[hazy pasture]

I was... working on the gifts...

[crude sparrow]

They did say they were gonna bring those skins back later on though right?

[hazy pasture]

They did

[obsidian shard]

Yeah, as a sold bundle

[crude sparrow]

Wow, really?

[spark elm]

120 armor all levels 100%’d up to Kar’thul

[obsidian shard]

Probably with the Void Skin

[spark elm]

(on rerun)

[crude sparrow]

I thought they meant like through in game challenges or something

[hazy pasture]

Nice

[obsidian shard]

Hell yeah, glad it's working

[obsidian shard]

Could be, but Hugo has hinted at Them being sold

[crude sparrow]

Also there are still a couple unreleased skins in the files

[hazy pasture]

Yup

[obsidian shard]

4 or 5, some of em are so cool

[lusty tulip]

How much slow mow do you guys use

[obsidian shard]

The Phalanx was one of the leaked ones! And well we did get it

[lusty tulip]

Im thinking of turning it off

[crude sparrow]

0%

[ebon lynx]

none

modded it out as soon as I could

[lusty tulip]

Also whats the skill ceiling of the game compared to like eternal

[obsidian shard]

0% makes it the best smoothness of combat EVER

THO I will do 20-50% once in a while to feel da power

[high torrent]

Why is this chat not in the category The Doom universe????

[obsidian shard]

Not as high imo, but it is different

[obsidian shard]

Ripatorium

[lusty tulip]

Is ripatorium the custom levels

[spark elm]

Separate mode.

[lusty tulip]

Also damn the game has a ton of levels

[ebon lynx]

custom horde presets

[lusty tulip]

Oh

[obsidian shard]

Custom encounters in a separate mode, It's a TRUE horde mode

Gimme more questions, I gotta speed blitz em

[high torrent]

Makes no sense to me.
All Doom games chats are under the category The DOOM universe.
And this one is not

[ebon lynx]

Probably bc its new

[spark elm]

I was stacking gold up to like 3.6k before spending it on upgrades lol in the rerun. Even had up to like 19 rubies

[ebon lynx]

promoting and stuff

[lusty tulip]

Should I use the 3x shot combat or exploding enemies

[hazy pasture]

A new game that's why

[lusty tulip]

Tbf i dont even use the combat after getting ssg but just curious

[obsidian shard]

It's due to the Ripatorium so we can show off and share the Ripatorium Pre-sets people made without clogging channels

[spark elm]

Strongest gun for enhanced Ahzrak? (nightmare difficulty)

[obsidian shard]

3x shot, but up to you

[lusty tulip]

Bruuh I need to go back and redo all the levels im missing god for😭

[lusty tulip]

Nice

[obsidian shard]

Impaler

Melee is dreadmace

[mystic barn]

Fists + ground fissure + impaler

[lusty tulip]

I lowk think im spamming melee too much

[obsidian shard]

Interesting, I prefer the Auto Turret

[obsidian shard]

Then your playing good lol

[lusty tulip]

I think slow mow is messing with my melees

Cuz it seems that I cant parry an attack if I accidently buffer melee

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-the-dark-ages-gun-skull-skull-crusher-gif-16851006177808505358

underrated weapon

[obsidian shard]

One of my favs

[lusty tulip]

Not there yet

[spark elm]

Ravager is insane.

[elder raven]

ravager + auto turret/ground fissure + flail

[lusty tulip]

Whats ur melee of choice

[ebon lynx]

yeah i think melee attacks are uninterruptable for the most part

[lusty tulip]

Rough

[crude sparrow]

Which upgrade do y'all use with the ravager tho

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/shoot-angry-aim-fire-scream-gif-14962676

[spark elm]

I had to rerun city of ry’uul to finish off the face cracker challenge

[ebon lynx]

it is but slo mo off makes it more bearable

[elder raven]

the one that doesnt increase fire speed

i found the other one just more of an upgrade

[obsidian shard]

The one that increases fire rat

[spark elm]

I do the increased fire rate and the slow penalty being removed

[elder raven]

movement penalty though

[lusty tulip]

I spam my shield button whenever theres about to be a parry in the middle of melee bur it never does anything

[obsidian shard]

B hopping

[elder raven]

wait i think im getting them mixed up

[lusty tulip]

Is there a quickswitch method in this game

[crude sparrow]

I feel like the normal DPS isn't high enough to be worth using and even with the upgrade that increases fire rate you're now too slow so idk

[ebon lynx]

I think there's some tech but not much

[obsidian shard]

Quick switching isn't really a thing in this game, it exists but it's not as good

[lusty tulip]

Or like a method to shooting faster like in eternal

[crude sparrow]

If I need an automatic weapon I just use the plasma guns

[lusty tulip]

Damn

[obsidian shard]

Just using your guns is faster

[elder raven]

on the topic of plasma guns: which ones? im more leaning towards the cycler

[lusty tulip]

Shredder is cool but I missed a ton of gold to use it to its full potential

[lusty tulip]

I like cycler

[crude sparrow]

Shredder is kinda situational imo

[lusty tulip]

More controllable

[elder raven]

and the shock too

[obsidian shard]

Accelerator is my kill in short time, But cycler is a BEAST as well

[lusty tulip]

I dont have the shock yet

[crude sparrow]

Like ricochet is sick but only really worth using on naked mancubi or something

[lusty tulip]

Damn im missing so many upgrades

[elder raven]

this is why i use pincushion

[obsidian shard]

Mmm mancubi

[lusty tulip]

Nah I use pincushion

[elder raven]

very satisfying explosion

[lusty tulip]

Its very cool

[ebon lynx]

I guess you can think about switching between using melee/guns/shield throw/bash as quick switching

[lusty tulip]

And pairs well cuz full pincushion + shield throw seems to put mancubi in execution state?

[lusty tulip]

Ig

I saw a clip of some dude doing shield throw then combat

[crude sparrow]

Btw, unrelated to this but if you wanna swap weapons a lot I recommend playing on a higher game speed

[ebon lynx]

the shield does most of the faultering in this game so its integral to the combat

[crude sparrow]

The catch is everything else is also faster xD

[ebon lynx]

as well as other things

[lusty tulip]

I lowk dont swap weapons much

Mainly cuz yk its not as fast

But somethjng like impaler and ssg would work maybe

[crude sparrow]

I do all the time because that's what eternal taught me xD

[lusty tulip]

Basically lol

Just doesnt feel as good to me

[crude sparrow]

But on base speed it's just too slow I think

[lusty tulip]

In tda

[crude sparrow]

That's why I play on 130% speed

[ebon lynx]

goated

[lusty tulip]

I just finished the aggadon champion in UV I aint increasing speed yet

Game seems considerably easier than eternal but might be because im more experienced with doom games

[crude sparrow]

Yeah I recommend finishing your first playthrough on base settings before touching any sliders ig

[lusty tulip]

Im gonna first reduce slow mow to 0

[obsidian shard]

The game is def easier then eternal due to the upgrades and all the stuff you get (mainly the Shield)
But due to the sliders it's also the Hardest DOOM game yet

[lusty tulip]

Whats ur main combo for those damn whiplash

[crude sparrow]

Shield bash ssg

[obsidian shard]

Shield in em and shoot

[obsidian shard]

That too, also for Mancubi

[lusty tulip]

Ofc the whiplash sre as annoying as their eternal cousins

[lusty tulip]

Also for everything else in the game

[crude sparrow]

I think they're even more annoying in this one

[lusty tulip]

Im considerably behind on upgrades

[crude sparrow]

You cant even lock them down with your shield when they're slithering on the ground

[lusty tulip]

Do I hsve to recollect old gold in previous levels

[lusty tulip]

I cant even do the lob on them anymore

[crude sparrow]

You can go back and get the gold you missed in previous levels

[naive wigeon]

well it depends

[lusty tulip]

By beautiful lob

[naive wigeon]

what level are you currently on

[lusty tulip]

Just finished aggadon champion

[naive wigeon]

ur probably fine

[lusty tulip]

And I dont have many weapon upgrades

And also I missed like 300 gold in one of the siege levels I think

[naive wigeon]

u dont really need a lot of guns to run through the game anyways

[crude sparrow]

By the end of the campaign if you collect every piece of gold and do every challenge you'll be left with like 600 gold extra I think