the-dark-ages

[frail bloom]

School is work

[warm ibex]

true

[frail bloom]

But you do it for free

Lame as hell

[obsidian shard]

Ohh nice Congrats

[frail bloom]

Where's my pay

[unkempt dragon]

look it up on YouTube it's funny

[frail bloom]

Work me 7 hrs 5 days a week for nothing

[harsh egret]

Not only that, u pay for it too

U pay to work for free

[frail bloom]

groan

I'm not at that point yet

Just 2 more years

[harsh egret]

I dont wanna look at my student loans from the past 4 years lmao

[frail bloom]

Just counting down the days

[harsh egret]

Tho i enjoy college alot more than anything else before that

[frail bloom]

Ye I heard college is harder but less stressful

Maybe I'll enjoy it

[harsh egret]

Idk for me its more stressful but more enjoyable xd

And in some ways easier cuz im studying things im more interested in

[obsidian shard]

Lets do bartering agaim

money is bad

[harsh egret]

lmao yes

[obsidian shard]

at least the exchange rate has gone down a lot worse

[warm tendon]

Has anyone already finished the whole game

[green estuary]

a couple of people, yeah

[warm ibex]

AI slop, get that shit out of here

[meager vortex]

your dark lord is dead

[warm tendon]

I just finished it I wanted to see what people thought of it

[meager vortex]

not ai dude someone make a small comic

[green estuary]

Nah this is 100% AI

[warm ibex]

there's an AI watermart in the corner

[green estuary]

Just delete it

[warm tendon]

Grok ai

[meager vortex]

it was face book from doom community

[warm ibex]

it's ai

[green estuary]

Yeah dawg it’s still AI

Just cuz a human posted it doesn’t make it human-made

[formal root]

dude it literally says grok on the corner

[wintry forge]

Don’t need a watermark to tell it’s ai

[harsh egret]

yeah and facebook is full of ai

fk that

[unkempt dragon]

zap

[harsh egret]

[sour crater]

nuked from orbit

[unkempt dragon]

ai is poopy

[harsh egret]

[wintry forge]

Ai is for the Maykrs

[obsidian shard]

Speaking of ai is the Medieval Melee Poster ai? (Ripatorium Pre-set)

Don't wanna point it out and be wrong and look like dick, but it looks kinda ai

[harsh egret]

it is giving ai for sure

[wintry forge]

For TDA?

[green estuary]

the preset

[harsh egret]

the ripatorium preset

[green estuary]

the title defo looks AI

[harsh egret]

in the discord

[warm ibex]

it's in the ripatorium channel

might've been run through an ai software

[green estuary]

it's a different resolution than the top and bottom text also

[harsh egret]

smh

[obsidian shard]

@polar shoal if you want i can make you a poster to use instead of the ai

[wintry forge]

Calling him out fr

[harsh egret]

lmao

[unkempt dragon]

That's actually very kind of you imo

[wintry forge]

Who knows, maybe someone made it for him and he’s clueless

[warm ibex]

the font is very consistent, so it's also possible that it's a real image that was run through ai to give it texture/coloring

or maybe ai is just better with wording now

[harsh egret]

yeah thought the same a couple days ago when i saw it so i didnt wanna call anything out cuz i wasnt sure

[hard thistle]

Hey nerds. Posting this here because it's where the people I know where more recently active.

I'm almost done with Doom 1's Codex files.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1435655889825697883/1447427184376680468/image.png?ex=6937951c&is=6936439c&hm=5368705c69e943e9c50bb586d7325ab980c668ed92145d2cc131dd85d506bd41&
How is this? It's important, obviously, so I want the tone down right. Good or off?

[green estuary]

pog

[wintry forge]

This is tonally on point to the original 2 games. Excellent job!

[hard thistle]

Thanks, appreciate it. These are getting a bit exhausting lol but I'm enjoying it. I'm hoping maybe someday I could find and commission someone smarter than me to help make this into a mod?

[wintry forge]

Define mod? Like, classic doom?

[hard thistle]

Yeah like a mod for OG Doom 1 and 2.

[wintry forge]

That would be incredible

[hard thistle]

Specifically I've been kind of mulling over a mod that adds some stuff to the original games under the mindset of "what would id Software add if they remastered the games more ambitiously, added a few things from the modern games, and tweaked details to make them fit in with the modern games?"

Stuff like

1. Putting the story text from the manuals into the games as prologue text to the first levels, akin to DOOM 64 CE.
2. Mildly tweaking text to incorporate modern things established about Doomguy, mainly that he has a family.
3. Adding a Codex, with files collected whenever you kill enemies, collect weapons, and with collectible files in levels.

If I were to truly get ambitious, in a perfect world I'd replace every instance of a song repeating in levels to instead having new music. Like for example only having Shawn's Got the Shotgun play once in Doom II, and replacing the other two times with other songs appropriate for the levels.

But that's a whole different issue and would kind of be a whole thing.

[urban trench]

do y’all think they will release another doom?

[hard thistle]

In terms of Codex files I'm looking at maybe 35 for OG Doom.

Doom II would skip most of the original monsters, other than the boss ones.

[wintry forge]

Kinda like the Plutonia/TNT Midi pack, I dig that!

[hard thistle]

And the OG weapons. So Doom II would have maybe... 20? 24?

[wintry forge]

Like a “DOOM+DOOM 2 +”

[hard thistle]

Yeah, that would be awesome. But I'm not a music maker, and I don't think it'd be cool to just pluck music from other projects.

[hard thistle]

Yeah exactly. Summed up: "Doom and Doom II if we revised everything more without changing the tone, gameplay, or framework." The kind of Doom I wish I could play with the OGs.

[wintry forge]

There’s plenty of great midi artists out there. Jimmy Paddock made many for those midi packs. He’d be perfect for that role, but he probably has quite a price now

[hard thistle]

Yeah I'd imagine. The earlier stuff would be a higher priority for me anyway.

And sadly it'd have to be a UZDoom thing probably. I don't think even just prologue text works with the more accurate stuff, much less a Codex.

[wintry forge]

Having a menu system with codexes similar to the modern games would be incredible

[hard thistle]

Yeah that's something I'd love, and it'd be a great way to tie things into later stuff in an unobtrusive manner.

Like with some of the Environment Codex files, I get to harken to the Nameless One and stuff.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1435655889825697883/1447432867452948520/9_-_Tower_of_Babel.png?ex=69379a67&is=693648e7&hm=0686a646a7b65c895409132fedba82a76eebc6ce8fd30ad15d5b2c7b0891a387&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1435655889825697883/1447432867750740038/12_-_Unholy_Cathedral.png?ex=69379a67&is=693648e7&hm=34aeee64ee54b83e7c45985994183df79781c5973c26b308447675d6e09d8982&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1435655889825697883/1447432868098998282/13_-_Mt._Erebus.png?ex=69379a67&is=693648e7&hm=3ac3d74297dd7bd1e5b72a7b40934e0b7a0c103093a3bc2cd1db9fc683fe4d44&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1435655889825697883/1447432867150827561/14_-_Dis.png?ex=69379a67&is=693648e7&hm=a4171ca3a26f01e03603330a88f639fcb28d5142733ed8d0f5c7ba4e57d26e14&

Stuff like this.

[wintry forge]

The Tower of Babel will be interesting to explore in the classic’s codex. There’s a hidden story that most people don’t know, I’m sure you do tho lol

[hard thistle]

The visuals could use work though.

[hard thistle]

Which part? I might.

[wintry forge]

The environmental storytelling of Episode 2, with the slow reveal that Deimos floats above Hell, leading to the construction of the Tower of Babel as you progress through the episode, and it further being destroyed (supposedly) during the Marine’s battle with the Cyberdemon

[hard thistle]

Oh yeah absolutely.

[wintry forge]

You’re killing it man, this stuff is incredible

[hard thistle]

I was worried you were gonna bust out something so obscure I couldn't even imagine it, like "what you didn't know the elaborate backstory of the Barons impaled in E2M8?"

[hard thistle]

Thank you! I appreciate it. I've been pretty concerned about the tone, and I might rewrite a few with that in mind. But I'm happiest with the demon and weapon entries.

[wintry forge]

I think tonally having it less formal for the story events themselves works well. It’d have to be more dramatic and less “self aware” during the informational, more descriptive pieces

In my opinion, that is

[obsidian shard]

Bro you cooked so hard you made a Gourmet meal

[wintry forge]

No they’re incredible dude. Keep them up, can’t wait to see more

[hard thistle]

Yeah, I'm trying to work on something roughly like this. Most of it with Doomguy's POV in mind, and with some "oh hey you found a report explaining something" shit.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1435655889825697883/1447435341228282006/5_-_Spectre.png?ex=69379cb5&is=69364b35&hm=fd80313b3c7aea883a9c99955560138806191bb85aa7be1e840f8ffc17ed4312&
This one I think I am happy with as an example, where I can get across the idea that Spectres aren't truly invisible but instead fuck with your perception of them, without leaving Doomguy's POV.

And thanks guys, I appreciate the kind words.

[mystic barn]

I highly recommend Ultimate MIDI Pack and .MID the Way id Did. This Is My Boomstick by Varis Alpha from MTWID is a sensational track and could replace a Shawn’s Got the Shotgun level very easily

[wintry forge]

Great job connecting them to Eternal’s obscure lore

[hard thistle]

I'll check them out. If I got permission to use select tracks those would be a good place to start.

I have enough knowledge on this stuff that I can move music files around and add them. For example 100% in a mod, I would replace Downtown's song to Into Sandy's City. (IT'S LITERALLY. A CITY LEVEL BY SANDY PETERSEN)

And I did make a really rudimentary mod that put a dummy track before E1M1 and MAP01 with a text screen for story text, but it was hacky.

But I can't make them, and I definitely don't have the expertise to program something like a functioning Codex.

[mystic barn]

If a functioning codex is something you want to do, I recommend hitting up Doomworld for advice. Lots of clever people on there that could either point you in the right direction

Oh also, the NRFTL and Master Level MIDI packs are worth checking out. Anything by decino is worth your while

[hard thistle]

Will check those out too.

[hard thistle]

Cool. I'm not really a coding guy. It'd be nice if it were something I could do myself, but if it's too much I'd likely try to see if commissioning someone next year is a possibility.

[mystic barn]

Do it. I don’t know of any specific developers I can put you onto (I know who not to contact though, ahem… Graf Zahl and SgtMark… ahem), but there’s a group of good people there. Maybe Dragonfly? He’d be pretty busy with Prodeus though, so hard to say if he’s up for it

[hard thistle]

I appreciate the thought even if you can't! It's not something I have the money for until after the holiday season anyway.

[sour crater]

enhanced ahzrak do be hard

also does anyone know why i'm suddenly getting lag spikes?
i can be running 100 fps and after i die it jumps down to 30

and then when i die again or reload another checkpoint it goes back to normal

[unkempt dragon]

#the-codex channel is now live in this server

[grizzled thicket]

Indeed

[warm tendon]

He was easy for me to defeat what difficulty do you have it on

[outer forum]

Guys should I buy the phalanx action figure

[ionic glade]

Quick question, was there supposed to be reverent skins for the atlan and Serrat?

[harsh egret]

no (but there shouldve been)

[solar cairn]

I know that the teaser will be on the 11th, but I can’t prove it
Dexter meme

[sharp zealot]

Would the ripatorium be updated to include new stages and features as the year progresses especially when the dlc arrives

[harsh egret]

most likely yes

they aint done with the ripatorium just yet

[meager vortex]

if you want buy go buy it

your choice bro

[cerulean pagoda]

Hi

[wintry forge]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-gif-1878760417600646737

[meager vortex]

maybe they add new map

https://x.com/gangseongd6186/status/1998083738509721913/photo/1

강성두 (@gangseongd6186)

X · Dec 8, 2025, 5:34 PM

die kreed maykr fat fuck

fatty shitty maykr

[frosty roost]

rude

[green estuary]

[slender night]

He's a little corny but he's right

[grim cloud]

there are still a couple unused tilesets for new ripatorium maps. Such as sentinel tech, mars and fiery hell

DLC will no doubt bring us some more

[fleet spruce]

Releasing more ripatorium content along with the DLC update does sound quite logical

[grim cloud]

I hope they give us enforcers and from there we can edit their "minions".

but i havn't played around with ripatorium very much. but i do know you can't spawn a set of monsters once another set it killed off.

[harsh egret]

a snowy ripatorium map would be cool

but first we need a normal hell map

[grim cloud]

got to always have a snowy land, in every game

Cultist Base looks like a frozen hell and not the artic. my head canon beleives this AND i think it was suppose to be hell at some point

[elder raven]

honestly i was expecting enforcers in 2.0

they’re probably coming up soon though

[solid nacelle]

I imagine enforcers would be quite complicated to do, especially with how the code system works. Still hoping for some day tho

[obsidian shard]

A Music Per round Setting would be cool, so you can choose what track plays each round without stopping your game play to choose a track

[frail bloom]

Where's the lost soul hugo

Where is it

@mystic barn how's it going with the audio files?

Sorry for asking again I just gotta know where you're at

[frail bloom]

What!

I want it

[frail bloom]

This week's gonna be awesome

[harsh egret]

dont have too high of expectations

learn smth from me

[frail bloom]

I'll try I'll try

Well you were going nuts honestly

My hopes are realistic, your's was insanity

[harsh egret]

what did i say

[frail bloom]

Ng+ in november

Silly goose

[harsh egret]

yh but that was a while ago

[frail bloom]

Nuh uh

[unkempt dragon]

Can confirm it will be awesome ^_^

[harsh egret]

thats what i mean learn from me

cuz i learned from it at least

tbh only thing that is confirmed this week is some giveaways

and even if i won i cant care cuz they dont send them to EU

[frail bloom]

What are they doing for the anniversary

[green estuary]

quake 1 reboot

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[unkempt dragon]

oh man I wish

[green estuary]

would be so good

[unkempt dragon]

That is my #1 wish

for anything gaming related

[frail bloom]

Quake 1 in the style of 2016

I'm so close to finishing my animation I just need the parry sound effect

I think y'all will really like it

There's not much decent quality doom fight animations out there and especially nothing for dark ages

It's like 5 min long

[harsh egret]

dayum

[frail bloom]

Lots of breaks taken in between but I got there

[mystic barn]

Sorry pal, been busy. I’ll message you when I have them

[frail bloom]

Thank you thank you

[ionic glade]

Well damn. Those would’ve been sick. Fingers crossed for the DLC then

[ionic glade]

Actually played Quake 1 for the first time this year and it’s amazing. Still need to finish Dimension of the Machine and then I’ll be all done with it

[slender night]

DotM rocks

[elder raven]

100% and to fit the tone/gameplay of the round

[flat elm]

Dark of the moon?

[fading osprey]

TRANSFORMERS REFERE-

[harsh vine]

https://tenor.com/view/optimus-prime-mask-transformers-transformers-prime-gif-24051876

[fading osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/shockwave-dotm-gif-25739013

[harsh vine]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-taunts-thumbs-up-doomguy-gif-19046636

[flat elm]

🤣

Now, I realized that Anoneq says about call of the machine

What the heck is that!?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TVpm8yM-No

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/100-yard-stare-1000-yard-stare-stare-staring-staring-meme-gif-18404030142962634873

Why

[harsh egret]

the what turret mod?

[umbral flint]

Was there a stream Thursday?

[harsh egret]

no

but next one and last of the year is on wednesday

anniversary stream

[umbral flint]

Alright thanks

[crude sparrow]

turret shield rune desperately needs a buff imo

definitely the weakest shield rune

the blades literally serve the same purpose except they actually do damage

[frail bloom]

#the-dark-ages message
Do you want it buffed now

(No)

[crude sparrow]

I wasnt talking about the ejaculator turret

whatever it is

[frail bloom]

Still a turret

[crude sparrow]

yeah but they gotta do something with it for sure

[frail bloom]

Er idk give you more healing ability

[harsh egret]

I think it's fine

I just think its the least fun to use imo

[crude sparrow]

it seems fine until you compare it with the others tho

fissure stuns and gives a shit ton of armor, the blades do frankly too much damage and easily deal with armored enemies and the heaven splitter is like an ice bomb from eternal but better

meanwhile the turret just goes brrrr for a couple seconds and thats about it

maybe they could make it so the turret activates after any parry, not just projectiles so it gets some more use

also would be kinda busted against aggadons and komodos

[sour crater]

what are you guys' favorite accelerator upgrades?

[crude sparrow]

The one that increases fire rate and heat blast

[harsh egret]

same here

[rugged moon]

Guys, does anyone else here play tda on a laptop? I have an acer nitro v15 rtx3050 i5-420h 16gb, I did some research and saw that the game runs well, but I still want to know if anyone here plays on a laptop similar to mine

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-wait-gif-16738817422562026279

Waiting for dat parry sound effect

[green estuary]

how much vram do you have? if you've got just 4 gigs then no dice, but if you've got 6 then the game will be playable

[elder raven]

tbh i just went into dark ages and recorded one of the sounds

[rugged moon]

I have 6, I can use an optiscaler to solve the lighting issue, right?

[elder raven]

how should i send this to you

[green estuary]

there shouldn't be any lighting issues if you have 6 gigs

although in all honesty your cpu might be a bottleneck

an i5 is really not ideal

also considering you're on a laptop, I wouldn't be surprised if your particular model thermal throttles your card

if you really want to get the game then worst case scenario you can refund it if it doesn't run well

[harsh egret]

or u can play it on geforce now maybe idk how good the experience is on that nowadays

last time i used that was like 7 years ago

[frail bloom]

The parry sound effect, no backround noise?

Just send it here

In music

[elder raven]

@frail bloom would that work?

[frail bloom]

Yup!

@mystic barn nvm someone got it, thank you for considering!

[elder raven]

im surprised that those sounds weren't uploaded somewhere earlier

https://tenor.com/view/good-karma-gif-13220915346580111809

[harsh egret]

everytime i tried it had some sort of background noise from either runes or demons

or from the environment lol

[elder raven]

@obsidian shard the melee only run has been going so much smoother

im having fun now rather than the previous one

[obsidian shard]

Darn

[frail bloom]

Imma upload tommorow

But yippee I'm done

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-butler-jimmy-butler-paper-confused-gif-14478007832172093541

[harsh egret]

uhm

[obsidian shard]

What In the Scoobady Doobady Doo did I just read

[unkempt dragon]

Don't post that kinda shit in here, gross

[random sand]

I'm both curious to what it said and scared at the same time

[harsh egret]

a lil bit of an inappropriate joke, dw about it

[random sand]

Well allright then

[sour crater]

this game rocks

[gusty seal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCuxvFS8IaI&t=430s

Gladiators looked more like bulky powerlifters or sumo wrestlers than ripped action heroes, with strong muscles but also a significant layer of subcutaneous fat from a carb-heavy diet of barley and beans, which protected them and made wounds look more dramatic.
"Fat Fit": They were muscular but also "fatter than you would think," with a protective layer of fat from a carbohydrate-rich diet (barley, beans) to absorb blows and make wounds more visually spectacular.
Powerlifter Build: Their bodies were built for enduring hits and heavy armor, resembling modern strongman or powerlifting physiques rather than lean bodybuilders.
Uneven Development: Intense training could create lopsided or deformed-looking bodies, much like medieval longbowmen.

[mystic barn]

Nuh uhhhh because Russel Crowe is as a fit guy in Gladiator, so you’re wrong

[gusty seal]

https://tenor.com/view/what-you-doing-spying-watching-hmm-observing-gif-15014871791710891082

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKfi-km-U9w

[obsidian shard]

@harsh egret I'm concurrently compiling and shortening all DLC Info we have so far for Post-Stream On Wednesday,

I can send it to you once I'm done if you wish!

Same to you @warm ibex

[harsh egret]

sure thing!

[gusty seal]

I wouldn't mind either

[obsidian shard]

Alrighty!

[warm ibex]

would be very much appreciated 🙏

[gusty seal]

DAM

just blasted through barrier core first try on max sliders ! uploading TM !

oh and just did this tonight too, wasnt playing for like a day lol. and came back with a vengeance. tonight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1pttlZ9pJ8&t=11s

[sour crater]

Ok I dont know if I angered the tech gods or something but everytime I load up a mission it starts at 5 fps and then I have to restart the mission for my frames to come back

[gusty seal]

i swear everytime i start at the beggining of a new chapter, brink of death goes back to normal from hard. the tech gods playing me too @sour crater

but im ahead of them now, i know there tricks

doing this from scratch again too, is really letting me relearn the mechanics too

gotta learn totally new combos for 50% damage taken demons. especially when they are in a hoard. everything else i kinda already had down, with a few holes here and there. 100% damage taken demons, are bread and butter 😄

[obsidian shard]

Here y'all go @warm ibex @harsh egret @gusty seal

DOOM: The Dark Ages – DLC Info so far:

COMBAT:

• Slayer Gates are returning.
• Possible Archville Enemy
• Mobility will play a major role in the DLC.
• Every new mechanic will meaningfully affect gameplay (similar to the Sentinel Hammer in TAG 2).
• New Spear weapon featuring a teleport or leap ability.
• Possible Axe weapon (not yet confirmed).

EXPLORATION:

• We will most likely see more of the cosmic realm.
• There will be a hub area — likely the Kreed Maykr’s ship.
• Exploration will have a stronger role in overall progression.
• Additional mobility options will be available, and some sections will require them.
• Levels will feature more backtracking, more unlocking of the space.
• Roughly 30% of content will be inaccessible until the DLC’s story is completed.

LORE:

• Major lore questions fans have asked about will be pushed forward.
• Some connections to DOOM (2016).
• Teases relating to the Sentinel Civil War, the Wretch, and “armor” (Interesting...)
• Marok will have a role in the DLC.
• Cutscenes will be more immersive, possibly in first-person.
• The Order of the Six (the High Council) are likely our targets.

MUSIC:

• Finishing Move will most likely be composing the OST.

DLC Art by Gavin Manners
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1441456807036846152/1447841234378031194/G3_RNlMXMAAQfyB_1.jpg?ex=693916b9&is=6937c539&hm=d475764288b03c5a210d99e08d9b767fe13548a7561d8bcef0abe587e1832ea0&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1441456807036846152/1447845504078843985/Interesting....png?ex=69391ab3&is=6937c933&hm=a07eb103eae84de6ea962d277476ef860cee1aeb5b6ee2790fb143c742745acd&

[random sand]

So basically, if the dark ages and eternal had a baby, it'd be this dlc

[obsidian shard]

From the sounds of it

its Dark Ages 2

Building upon whats been established

[random sand]

I mean i am intrigued. This does sound interesting

[gusty seal]

dont forget samus will have raised the baby

[random sand]

What

[gusty seal]

metroid esc

backtracking exploration

[random sand]

I haven't played metroid

[gusty seal]

stuff like that

hugo said it

[gusty seal]

i havent since the first gamecube one

[random sand]

Backtracking was in Eternal as well tho

[gusty seal]

more for secrets tho

in this, you wont be able to go foward, unless you go back to a certain level to get something that you couldnt get to before but now you can get to it, so you go back to that level, and it will probably be required to move foward that you do so as well.

[random sand]

There were missions there you went somewhere to get something and then had to go back to use it

Super gore nest for example

[gusty seal]

you went back to the hub with stuf i get it

[fleet spruce]

Thank you

[barren ember]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1185294197314555915/1447855512615129120/clip_1765265931870.gif

was bored and found out tenor doesn't have a good gif of tda's parrying

so here you go, my gameplay is precious

[gusty seal]

nah lemme find the fun zone for you quick

[barren ember]

tda is already my favourite modern doom i really don't need help in that

[gusty seal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYZH9iYfS18 50% demon damage taken 500% player damage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXBMigW9qw0

[barren ember]

holy

okay maybe i do need help on that

50% demon damage sounds rlly good cuz i mostly kill everything in 2 seconds

i already have 300% damage on

that thing already kicks my ass

[gusty seal]

i just started a nightmare max slider run on a new save. and some here said, and I agree, theres not much on 500% that doesnt already break your shield on 300%

[barren ember]

yeah exactly

[gusty seal]

i think it was @green estuary who said it maybe

[green estuary]

yes

[barren ember]

500% feels like an option for masochists

which i am a masochist

[green estuary]

it's really just because of all the chip damage

fodder on 500% are even worse than 2016's fodder, which is really saying something

obviously if you miss your parries on the bigger demons then you're kinda screwed (imp stalker lunge deals 200 damage and ignores death protection ), but it's the tracking fodder projectiles that'll get you killed 9 times out of 10

[barren ember]

fodder becomes a bitch on 150% already how in hell you want me to deal with it on 500% damage too???

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

[barren ember]

nice.

[green estuary]

well, obviously you can do it, seeing as people have done max sliders runs before

but it's not fun

[gusty seal]

im kinda having fun so far. just do it over multiple sittings. take stretches and meditate

[barren ember]

yeah which i'm trying to avoid

[sour crater]

the arachnotron of doom and despair

[gusty seal]

[sour crater]

snipes you from across the map

[barren ember]

imagine if arach did not die from single ssg

[green estuary]

well in that case, max sliders is definitely the place for you

[barren ember]

that would be HELL

[barren ember]

idk my sliders are already pretty high/low up and i kinda found my sweet spot

i already call my preset nightmare++

[gusty seal]

i love coming up with names for my presets

my fav is chad mode and brain rot mode

[barren ember]

lol

[sour crater]

That can be arranged

[barren ember]

DO NOT.

[gusty seal]

they require mods and broken physics though

[barren ember]

fair

[sour crater]

I've tweaked the cosmic realms to run at 150 fps. But at what cost

[barren ember]

hey did anyone else had these crazy lag spikes after installing last nvidia drivers

in tda specifically

[gusty seal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Slmwib25RCA

[sour crater]

You mean the game running at 5 fps after starting a mission or occasionally after loading a checkpoint?

Yeah I've had those occut

[barren ember]

yes

[gusty seal]

i havent noticed

[sour crater]

And here I thought I was the only one

[gusty seal]

well nothing more than before

[barren ember]

it's kinda annoying

[sour crater]

Very

[gusty seal]

any bug splats?

[barren ember]

splats?

[gusty seal]

lol when it crashes for me, its say opps bug splat or something, want to report?

[barren ember]

i didn't have any crashes

only lag and freezing

[gusty seal]

hmm doesnt dark ages have a mode where you can see whats causes a spike in specs

[barren ember]

i think it does

lemme see

[gusty seal]

try recording it, and sending it to a admin

scooby couldnt wait, it just finished uploading 😄 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy-B_25Ap5k

[edgy temple]

YEEEEEEES

GUYS YOU KNOW WHAT?

I completed Doom The Dark Ages and unlocked all Steam achievements

finally

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-anger-rage-temper-tantrum-noo-gif-19623014

for 23 hours gameplay

[harsh egret]

congrats!

[edgy temple]

thanks

[harsh egret]

how'd u like the game?

[forest hatch]

horray!!

[rustic matrix]

👏

[frail bloom]

I've been replaced

[frail bloom]

Y'know what's funny I woke up and still saw the notification

Idk what they were thinking

[edgy temple]

very much, gameplay, scenes and plot was peak

[harsh egret]

Hell yeah

[frail bloom]

Whaaaat abt the music

👀

[edgy temple]

good too, but i like more doom eternal music

[frail bloom]

I did too, if eternal was 10, dark ages is a 9

In the music department

[fleet spruce]

https://youtu.be/l3LYfT9kFco?si=BBoJ1KSiKrJihmpS

[edgy temple]

just because doom eternal my favorite part

[fleet spruce]

obligatory into the void post

[frail bloom]

Ik ik

Peak

[random sand]

Is it now a hot take for me to say eternal is a 7 while tda is an 8

[frail bloom]

No not really

Dark ages has more bangers honestly

[edgy temple]

fr

[frail bloom]

But the individiual quality of micks bangers

Is so high

[random sand]

I feel like the only bangers Mick has are BFG Division, Meathook and TOTTFIY but those do slap hard

[frail bloom]

Slap so hard they're on every meme video and every doom gameplay comp

Atleast for the time

[random sand]

They are the most iconic yeah

[edgy temple]

one of the best bangers

[fleet spruce]

Rip & Tear my beloved

[random sand]

I just love FM's guitar more when it locks in. Especially with WTSFL and Unholy Siege

[random sand]

Idk, not a fan of that one

[fleet spruce]

it's the only track i think of when i remember 2016

[frail bloom]

Oh ye some great guitar tones

[edgy temple]

The Only Thing They Fear Is You, my fav music

[random sand]

Hellwalker? BFG Division? At Doom's Gate?

[grave dock]

I really like Harbinger

[frail bloom]

All those

[random sand]

It just sounds so heavy and i love it. Actually fits tda alot too

[frail bloom]

Rust dust and guts

[fleet spruce]

they're all great but one stuck in my memory was Rip & Tear

[frail bloom]

I'm excited for the dark ages dlc ost

I need it

Now.

[edgy temple]

real

[random sand]

I'm hoping they lock in with it and don't do more of the same note with the riff for the combat parts. I love Blood Red and Unholy Siege and the rest of the dlc but they kinda stays on the same note a bit too much. I like it more when they vary it up

One part of Unholy Siege that actually gave me adrenaline. Near the end

[fleet spruce]

come on FM , throw us a bone, even a small teaser would be great

[mystic barn]

Pester Alex, I’m sure he’d really appreciate it

[random sand]

Considering the only teaser we have for the dlc outside of what's been said is a concept art, i think their tracks are a bit far away from a teaser

[fleet spruce]

im positive that they want to keep as much of a surprise as possible instead

[random sand]

Most likely

[twilit stone]

Best track in the series

[fleet spruce]

debatable

[wintry forge]

Rust dust and guts is underrated from 2016. Top 3 from that game

[uneven dragon]

Goes so hard in Foundry

[heady mica]

im a sucker for Harbinger

[wintry forge]

It was very smart how id/ mick utilized it for 2 levels, separating the riffs and their segments. The Foundry mix is peak

[uneven dragon]

Tbh tho I wish some of the more interesting parts played in site 03

[green estuary]

[obsidian shard]

@warm ibex @harsh egret

Pretty sure I only forgot The Archville, and I just added it to the list!

[harsh egret]

samir would lose his mind if they add the classic archvile man

i hope they do

[fading bone]

im so sorry, but what in the world is this FOV lol

feels like you're entering into hyperdrive with every melee

[merry sapphire]

crazy fov

[barren ember]

This is 150 fov, i usually use 160 but doom tda needede to be lowered a bit

It's not that crazy I'm not a madman

I was playing quake when i was a child

[obsidian shard]

https:// steamdb.info/app/3469450/

New App related to TDA premium upgrade, Could be nothing burger tho, but if Conspiracy isn't my middle name

• Thanks @hazy pasture for pointing it out to me

[flat elm]

We Need more cosmic enemies in the DLC

Or spin-off where you fight only cosmic creatures

[fading bone]

i feel like there's prolly gonna be another one added at least since they said we're gonna see more cosmic realm

[flat elm]

The Doomb Slayer would have fun

[warm ibex]

right before...

no, I shant say it. Hopes cannot be up.

[obsidian shard]

"We must pray now my brothers and sisters, pray that HE is watching"

[warm ibex]

we got an anniversary and a game awards back to back...

eyes and ears are wide open

[obsidian shard]

Gourmet Meal in Development

[grim cloud]

so what is the speculation? just coincidence?

[harsh egret]

i saw it before but i havent checked recently

but yeah it says it got added to the premium package 14 days ago

interesting... one could say

[obsidian shard]

And was also updated 7 days ago

[harsh egret]

idk if thats about the dlc itself tho

i think thats a steam thing

it says it affected 1k items on steam

[obsidian shard]

But I gotta say all this info is https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1441456807036846152/1447845504078843985/Interesting....png?ex=69391ab3&is=6937c933&hm=a07eb103eae84de6ea962d277476ef860cee1aeb5b6ee2790fb143c742745acd&

[harsh egret]

that update

[unkempt dragon]

ello guys!

[obsidian shard]

True, I suppose only time will tell

[harsh egret]

but yeah still, after 7 months of no update to that itself... 14 days ago it gets added to the premium package... hmmmmmm

[obsidian shard]

Howdy LM, how ya doing

[harsh egret]

sup

[obsidian shard]

Gtg, break is almost done

[warm tendon]

Sup dude

[harsh egret]

cya man

[green estuary]

[harsh egret]

yoyo

[green estuary]

Also wassup LM

[harsh egret]

no way its nothing

it just has to be...

surely on thursday right...

[unkempt dragon]

Took the day off due to a snowstorm. I wish I could be around for the Stream tomorrow but I'll be working.

[grim cloud]

so marketing page for dlc?

[harsh egret]

yeah so pretty much 14 days ago an "unknown app" was added to the premium upgrade AND premium content packages on steamDB

after 7 months of no updates

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/491020118780805140/1448026028588142652/image.png?ex=6939c2d4&is=69387154&hm=4b2eae56c1e30d5ae526e408d2a708bf6dd399f4de3155ae963246bec2b7f446&

this uknown app is most likely the dlc steam page

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-kermit-the-frog-nervous-nail-biting-anxious-gif-17874247

[harsh egret]

fuck man now im actually expecting a trailer

[grim cloud]

yah probably a full blown trailer and not a teaser?

releasd by QuakeCon?

[harsh egret]

i would assume a trailer with a release date

nah, at the game awards

[grim cloud]

no i mean the game itself

[harsh egret]

oh, if they release a trailer now its most likely 2-3 months away

[green estuary]

make that 3-4 months

[harsh egret]

smth in that range

[grim cloud]

hmm, they be cooking pretty hard to have it done in the first half of the year honestly, but i do know that its easier to make levels in TDA than the other two games

[harsh egret]

yeah by quite a bit

also hearing about the emphasis on backtracking and so on, it could save some development time

since ur reusing the space

[grim cloud]

i wonder what hte DLC will be called. Darker Ages? Darkest Ages?

yah yah, its bad guess

[harsh egret]

[thin hound]

DOOM: The Dark Ages - The Darker Ages

[slender night]

The Light Ages jokes in 2024 were driving me insane

[thin hound]

I mean I wouldn’t be surprised if the word light is in the title

Although I’m not sure how much it has to do with Urdak, so it probably wouldn’t

[random sand]

i never saw any and i'm kinda disappointed

[grim cloud]

we can expect new AI, but i wonder if we get more variants too

[harsh egret]

both probably

[random sand]

i just hope they dont pull a TAG and only give us reskins and one that buffs enemies

[grim cloud]

time constraints and covid did that

[green estuary]

doom the ___ ages jokes are even less funny than the eternal brainrot

[random sand]

reskins and a buff totem on legs ain't enough

[grim cloud]

gimee baalgars, spider masterminds, barons of hell!

[green estuary]

and that's saying something

[green estuary]

no chance

[random sand]

that stuff did alot i see

[harsh egret]

for sure lmao

trust me u can expect more now

[slender night]

At least they're extinct now though, while you still see people stuck in 2020

[grim cloud]

12 level campaign? sure ill expect tthat!!

[random sand]

honestly all i want is more enemies i can wrestle with. like the cyberdemon and agaddon hunter

[obsidian shard]

Also id can make maps wayy faster now (Ray tracing)

[harsh egret]

people would call u crazy, but i agree and i can see it happening

[grim cloud]

some one said that in a stream, both hugo and josh just laughed.

[harsh egret]

however we dont know how levels will work

mentioned this a few days ago

[green estuary]

not entirely realistic but how peak would that be

[harsh egret]

could be smth new

[harsh egret]

u telling me during covid and the one year constraint they can do 50% of the game into 2 dlcs but now they cant do about the same or more?

[green estuary]

bruh idk I'm just trying to temper my expectations tbh

[harsh egret]

i mean yeah thats fair

[obsidian shard]

I'm starting to think only 6 HUGE maps (Since backtracking is so big)

[harsh egret]

imo i dont even expect "levels" the way we know them rn

[green estuary]

a small part of me thinks that 12 levels is perfectly possible but odds are I'm gonna get dissapointed

[green estuary]

backtracking to reveal new fights would be sick as hell

[obsidian shard]

I trust with what id is doing, they are Masters of their class for a reason

[harsh egret]

i cant wait for the flying wolves shield rune

[obsidian shard]

(trust)

[harsh egret]

or whatever hugo said they scrapped but teased about it

sounds hella random but maybe its cool

[obsidian shard]

Hope

[frail bloom]

You're so right for that, I'm gonna try to upload my animation today, and I'll ping y'all

[grim cloud]

classic as in chases the player and ressurects demons?

not to mention the flameboy attack

[frail bloom]

Yup

[fleet spruce]

I bet it's the DLC item

[frail bloom]

All of that I got all of that

[hearty edge]

doom the monochromatic ages

[obsidian shard]

Looking forward to it dude 🔥😎

[harsh egret]

there isnt much else it can be so...

unless we gotta pay for ng+ as a standalone thing

imagine

[manic arch]

Yakuza 8 did that

You had to pay for ng+ and the final dungeon

Post game dungeon for getting to lvl 99

[fleet spruce]

sega moment

[slender night]

Ultra-Nightmare as DLC 😌

Thanks RAGE

[manic arch]

Weapon wheel customization as a $20 dlc

Its either dlc or a pack for the limited skins like the pizza one

[fleet spruce]

careful there, EA might hear you

they already considered making people pay per bullet

[manic arch]

Cyberpunk does that

Whole ass gun that uses your (ingame) money but still paying for it

[harsh egret]

the skins i think josh specifically said that would be after dlc

iirc

[manic arch]

Wouldn’t know, I don’t watch the streams

I should but I’m lazy

[lavish inlet]

do u guys think steam deck is a good viable option to play this game on

[lone leaf]

How comfortable are you with gyro?

[elder raven]

i play it on deck all the time, its not bad

the only problem is the fps and even that’s adequate enough to play

[obsidian shard]

Yes

It'll do

[elder raven]

im on abyssal forest rn and lukewarm take possibly: abyssal forest and ancestral forge are my least favorite levels in dark ages

[harsh egret]

i like them alot

[obsidian shard]

I agree but I also think it has one of the coolest environments and Backdrops

[elder raven]

100%, abyssal forest’s backdrop is my favorite despite it being my least favorite level

[lavish inlet]

ok nice bcuz my computer doesnt run it 😢

[obsidian shard]

Hellbreaker, Reckoning and From Beyond/Spire Of Nerathul are some pretty good ones imo

[obsidian shard]

Sadge

[slender night]

The level where you first fight a Komodo has amazing music

[lime badge]

Yeah thats the weakest part of the game, but still not terrible

[harsh egret]

yuupp

[lavish inlet]

do u think that dark ages is better than 2016 though

[elder raven]

yeah, despite it being my least favorite its still not terrible

[obsidian shard]

All down to personal opinion,

So for me it's yes

[elder raven]

spire of nerathul is an alright level to me

[green estuary]

fun, but too long

[elder raven]

it has certain parts where im not a big fan of but overall i like it

[obsidian shard]

Flying the Dragon is fun as hell but attacking ain't it

[elder raven]

dont even get me started on the hell ships

wrong reply 🆘

[elder raven]

this

[obsidian shard]

I will play the Dragon levels just to fly around, the environments are just so good plus riding a dragon is cool

But uh yeah.... Combat... It's ok...

[slender night]

I remember people thinking the game would be open world or free roam because of the dragon flying in the reveal trailer

[green estuary]

an open world doom game would be so insufferable

[slender night]

Ehh we kinda got that with RAGE 2 and I personally enjoyed it

[harsh egret]

i dont think they ever will do that tbh

[topaz oasis]

I'd play that shit, ngl

[green estuary]

hell naw
doom's forte is the combat, not walking around for hours trying to figure out what the heck you're even doing in a given area

[harsh egret]

same but so many would hate it lmao

yep

[topaz oasis]

Exploration in doom has always been cool tho

A well crafted open world would only make the exploration better

[slender night]

Just do a Minecraft ripoff, replace the Nether with Hell and the End with Urdak
DOOM fans have no problem playing knockoffs it seems so this would do numbers

[green estuary]

yeah, but exploration is separate from an open world

[earnest mulch]

With combat being the best thing about these games, I really enjoyed Sentinel Command Station and Belly of the Beast. The combat flows really well through those levels

The songs are sick too

[frail bloom]

https://youtu.be/_kgQsWVxmNs?si=S8VoUQzm2tPrun4j
@harsh egret @obsidian shard @warm ibex @grim cloud

Hopefully it's a hit

[green estuary]

I liked belly of the beast except when I was running UN on 300% damage
because the acid is absolutely evil

[earnest mulch]

Haha, that is brutal!

[manic arch]

Love the vibe here, its like a Newgrounds video

[slender night]

UN 300% damage? That sounds like it'd kill me from stress

The only UNs I ever pulled off is in RAGE 1 and RAGE 2 NG+ which are probably the easiest ones ever

[green estuary]

I did 250% with second-lowest parry first without much difficulty beyond ahzrak himself (just because I play the game so damn often)
so then a little while later I ran 300% on lowest parry settings just for fun
after a couple dumb deaths I ended up getting to enhanced ahzrak, after which I took a pause and practiced the fight a few times on my nightmare save
got through him, then the last level (which was actually pretty tight) and voila, UN run number 2

TDA probably the only doom game I can actually run UN for fun simply because the difficulty isn't completely centered on the beginning of the campaign

so even if you die, you'll still feel like you actually made some progress because you aren't just dying in the first 3 levels repeatedly

[harsh egret]

hahah amazing work man

i also really enjoyed the effort put into the audio part

amazing stuff

[frail bloom]

Thank you thank you

Youtube actually butchered some of the audio stuff which annoys me

[harsh egret]

make sure u post it in #videos too

[frail bloom]

Alr I have

[torpid cedar]

per chance any1 got any clue if there is mod to change the slayer suit voice to make it sound like vega from 2016 and eternal kinda got emotionally attached

[slender night]

Goat?

UN will always be grand to me even if it's gonna someday be piss easy. I keep seeing videos like Decino's 2016 UN tier list and it makes me think damn this difficulty is insane

[obsidian shard]

Somebody cooked here

[green estuary]

nah I just play the game a lot, and it's kinda clicked with me more than either 2016 or eternal

but thanks though

[slender night]

I need to beat RAGE 2 on UN without NG+ and then start attempting UN for Eternal

[frail bloom]

Well now you know when I say classic archvile, it's what I envision

[slender night]

Conquering challenges is fun, love FNaF for that reason (off-topic I know)

[green estuary]

plus id tech was merciful to me and didn't throw any run ending bugs my way

[frail bloom]

Hopefully they're in the dlc

[elder raven]

if the archviles are back i want them to look like the classic versions + have a cloak on

[green estuary]

eternal on UN is so painful

[frail bloom]

Oohh cloak

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/colonisation-gif-993573751146316999

[frail bloom]

To match the slayer

Awesome idea

[green estuary]

just so many bugs and 90% of your deaths are just gonna be in the first few levels

[elder raven]

something like this but like melted to the skin

[frail bloom]

Def

[slender night]

Beating HoE on UN always hits me with dopamine

Then I get to Exultia and always die to the same caco like ok man

[frail bloom]

Did you like it btw?

[elder raven]

i paused it rq im gonna keep watching it

[green estuary]

it's like the game gains sentience as soon as you select UN
suddenly all the bugs start coming up, and everything starts going wrong for no reason

[elder raven]

i do like it though

[frail bloom]

Alr alr

[lavish inlet]

does dark ages have multiplayer

[warm ibex]

holy shit man that's fuckin awesome, great work

[frail bloom]

Thank you it means a lot coming from all of y'all

[warm ibex]

keep that shit up. you'll have a career

[green estuary]

nnnope

[slender night]

I had a DOOM 2016 bug where an elevator went down instead of up, sinking through the floor. If this happened on UN I would be indescribably pissed

At least you can reload the save

[hazy pasture]

Samir mah man you cooked a 7 star gourmet meal

[elder raven]

super fun to watch, please keep making more

[frail bloom]

If it's ok with y'all, consider subbing!

[elder raven]

i liked and subscribed

[frail bloom]

Well now I gotta do more

But I need a break

[obsidian shard]

it does not but does have the Ripatorium!

[hazy pasture]

Subbed to you since the moment we met in here mate

Keep making peam content

[frail bloom]

Aw thank you

[hazy pasture]

No probs man

[solar cairn]

Has SteamDB been updated on the eve of the add-on?

[lavish inlet]

oh sick

[grim cloud]

Sweet.

i really need to go back to making doom stuff, but my time is all committed to damn kids and work

[forest swan]

Hey, those are important too.

[frail bloom]

There you go, classic archvile in all his glory

[grim cloud]

yah work has been insane, coverting all the companies into a new computer system.

[grim cloud]

there was a baron too, dont forget

[frail bloom]

Don't forget, lol

Don't forget it's classic

I made sure everything was classic

Cuz classic = peak

[obsidian shard]

DOOM: The Dark Ages OST has Been Nominated for Best Music at Bafta along side

ARC Raiders
Blue Prince
Clair Obscur: Expedition 33
Death Stranding 2: On The Beach
Dispatch
Ghost Of Yōtei
Hades II
Hollow Knight: Silksong
Indiana Jones and the Great Circle

[frail bloom]

Pls win

[forest swan]

fire in more ways than one.

[harsh egret]

Blue prince?

[forest swan]

still sad mick wasn't in dark ages

[frail bloom]

He's in defect

[forest swan]

but hey

[frail bloom]

If you want some more mick

If you've heard of defect

[obsidian shard]

Ya, but at this point that whole thing is 5-3 years ago

[forest swan]

He's also wolfenstein.

[harsh egret]

Ppl just gotta move on

[forest swan]

WAIT OH NO THAT'S A MANCUBUS AAAAAAA

[obsidian shard]

DOOM the Dark Ages also go nominated for Technical Achievement
Alongside:

ARC Raiders
Battlefield 6
Clair Obscur: Expedition 33
Death Stranding 2: On The Beach
Donkey Kong Bananza
Ghost of Yōtei
Indiana Jones and the Great Circle
Kingdom Come: Deliverance II
Split Fiction

[harsh egret]

How is e33 there

Man some stuff never makes sense with these awards

There's always smth

[obsidian shard]

oh sorry this is something Called the "Long List"

so they arent nomintaed

even tho 10 is a good nom amont

[green estuary]

wth is bafta

[harsh egret]

Cuz games that shouldnt be in a category and are popular are more likely to win just cuz it turns those categories into a popularity contest

[green estuary]

that's literally just game awards in a nutshell

and awards shows in general

[harsh egret]

Lets put an unoptimized ue5 game in "best technical advancement"

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-use-your-brain-use-the-brain-think-brain-gif-7914082

[harsh egret]

Wait wdym

[green estuary]

TDA should at the very least be on the short list for technical achievement, considering it's essentially the best-optimized RT game we have at this point

[obsidian shard]

Its like a Nomination to be nominated

[harsh egret]

I thought it was RT slop

[green estuary]

every day I see some comment (most of them old thankfully) that manages to surpass even my own expectation on how dumb some people can be

[harsh egret]

Mhm

[green estuary]

I was looking at a video for TDA's performance on a 4 gig 3050 laptop (which obviously is gonna suck, but I just wanted to see how much it would suck) and I saw a comment that was unironically blasting id for being "lazy with their game engine" because it wouldn't run well on a laptop with fucking 4GB of vram and a 50 watt TDP

like at what point does your brain look at the garbage that it's producing and think "maybe I should just be quiet"

[harsh egret]

i cant be convinced those ppl are real

[grim cloud]

trolls like to troll. i do it on twitter because its hilarious. twitter is a cesspool, so i give "those people" my two cents. usually with a sassy correction back up by facts

speaking for ram however, maybe this belongs in the Future channel. but there is a crunch happening with supply. AI is taking all of it and im not sure where that will leave gamers/id for the next doom game

[green estuary]

it wasn't about ram specifically, just about the technical achievement category of some game awards show

[grim cloud]

well one thing i learend in the Doom books, when tech is limited or expensive, the best developers find a way to think outside the box and get creative. innovation has its rewards

[gusty seal]

not in my heart

[gusty seal]

https://tenor.com/view/hyper-x-hyper-x-family-box-box-league-of-legends-what-gif-17731820

[grim cloud]

yes exactly like that

[solar cairn]

I don’t think so

[gusty seal]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-glitch-geralt-of-rivia-roach-the-witcher-the-witcher3wild-hunt-gif-26941122 or like this

[green estuary]

ok, give me an example of a game that has better-quality RT and runs better than TDA

[valid birch]

Hello

I was wondering if anybody knows a person named Rejay

They have sent a friend request

[solar cairn]

TDA has RT implemented at the level of the game engine, it’s not fair to compare with other games

[gusty seal]

super mario bros 1, best ray tracing there is

[valid birch]

I am very questioning

[green estuary]

explain please

[valid birch]

Who?

I have never seen or heard

[gusty seal]

nvm

[valid birch]

They r a girl to

[green estuary]

the whole point of RT in games is to speed up development and reduce file size by removing the need for a bunch of light maps
beyond that it's little more than nice-to-look at natural lighting, and in most games it's not even that

[solar cairn]

Well, many people complain that RT is not disabled in the game, that’s why the requirements have increased so much

[green estuary]

and?

[solar cairn]

Well, in other games it is disabled, so the comparison is incorrect

[obsidian shard]

plus maps can be bigger (And as you said, speed up development)

[gusty seal]

google agrees with katsu
For the best ray tracing in 2025, Alan Wake 2, Cyberpunk 2077 (with Overdrive Mode), and Doom: The Dark Ages (PC) stand out for stunning path tracing, while new 2025 titles like Borderlands 4, Resident Evil Requiem, and Phantom Blade Zero bring cutting-edge ray tracing and DLSS 4 to the forefront, making games more accessible with next-gen visuals and performance.

[green estuary]

so because other games add RT in as an afterthought, a game that actually uses it properly isn't fair for comparison?

[green estuary]

lets not bring AI into this

[gusty seal]

lets ask Vega then!

hi vega

[spring merlin]

Hi, @gusty seal.

[solar cairn]

And what other game engines does RT use by default?

I know only one engine that uses in TDA and the new Indiana Jones

[frosty roost]

hi vega

[spring merlin]

Hi, @frosty roost.

[solar cairn]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id_Tech#id_Tech_8

It is the first generation of id Tech engine that requires dedicated raytracing-enabled hardware,[17] primarily due to the lighting to be fully raytraced global illumination.

[frail bloom]

Screw you Vega

[green estuary]

the award is for technical achievement
TDA runs on the first engine that was built from the ground up with ray tracing in mind and which performs excellently while actually using the technology to its full potential
that in and of itself is a huge technical achievement, far more than the 95 percent of games using a reskinned version of unreal engine 5 that stutters every 30 seconds that happens to include ray tracing as a shiny option you can turn on to make light reflect off of water

like wow, battlefield 6 purposefully neutered its graphics so they wouldn't actually have to put effort into real game optimization
such staggering technical achievement there
they wanted to make the technical requirements low, but they didn't want to actually try to optimize anything, so they just downgraded BF5's graphics and called it a day, and now people call it an amazingly optimized game because they're idiots

https://tenor.com/view/shia-labeouf-clapping-theatre-gif-12736297714360095095

[obsidian shard]

Also TDA uses Ray Tracing for Gameplay

[solar cairn]

???

[obsidian shard]

(Hit Detection)

I'm not joking either

[green estuary]

what do you mean by it uses RT for hit detection

[obsidian shard]

"We can leverage it [ray tracing] for things we haven’t been able to do in the past, which is giving accurate hit detection”

“So when you fire your weapon, the [hit] detection would be able to tell if you’re hitting a pixel that is leather sitting next to a pixel that is metal”

“Before ray tracing, we couldn’t distinguish between two pixels very easily, and we would pick one or the other because the materials were too complex. Ray tracing can do this on a per-pixel basis and showcase if you’re hitting metal or even something that’s fur. It makes the game more immersive, and you get that direct feedback as the player.”

Billy Khan, Director of Engine Technology at id Software

www.pcguide.com/news/doom-the-dark-ages-promises-accurate-hit-detection-with-help-from-cutting-edge-ray-tracing-implementation/

its really fucking cool that they use Raytracing to its fullest abilites!

[frail bloom]

But apparently I punch a Vagary and it rises up from the dead like nothing happened

[obsidian shard]

shhh

they dont have to know

[frail bloom]

Peak image you posted there

[obsidian shard]

tyty

[green estuary]

huh, interesting
never saw that

[obsidian shard]

Ya, I've used this for part of the RTX defense

[frosty roost]

that's interesting

[obsidian shard]

Yes

[green estuary]

although I'm not entirely sure whether this is in any way helped by the fact that RT was used, but I'll be forever grateful to id for making pretty much every object in TDA be a breakable
because in eternal, every single table, railing, or literally anything was a collision that you could get stuck on

[placid saffron]

honestly i still don't get what is unique about it because FPS have been using hitscan weapons since forever

[frail bloom]

Me neither

What's the difference honestly like how much does it improve gameplay

Or immersion considering they're talking abt different materials

[placid saffron]

nothing, it's graphical (/sound design)

[frail bloom]

I can get it on a visual front

[green estuary]

yeah I'm not really sure what difference that in particular makes beyond maybe the fx/sound of bullets/projectiles hitting particular surfaces
which is cool

[frail bloom]

Oh ok I see

[placid saffron]

it just sounds like hype talk lol

[green estuary]

yeah just your typical video game marketing stuff

[frail bloom]

But y'know what is hype

That ost

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-the-dark-ages-doom-true-launch-the-true-doom-launch-the-true-gif-17039720600748597696

[green estuary]

as much as I did love the campaign OST I really hope they double down on medieval-type sounds in the dlc

[frail bloom]

Oh DEF

No question

[obsidian shard]

YES

[frail bloom]

Mor I want MOR

[harsh egret]

it also helps on the audio front as well

[green estuary]

choirs n shit

[frail bloom]

Yes please

[harsh egret]

lmao

[frail bloom]

More choirs

More tagelharpa

[harsh egret]

tagelharpa my beloved

[frail bloom]

More violin and chello

[obsidian shard]

Chello and Mandolin

[green estuary]

bless you

[frail bloom]

Hell, add some piano and organs

[obsidian shard]

there was no Violin

[harsh egret]

wasnt there?

[frail bloom]

I know but I want violin

And there was no organ either

Which is crazy

[green estuary]

beethoven's 5th to be the backing track for the dlc

this just in

[frail bloom]

I hope they had all the resources and time they needed

[placid saffron]

the violin isn't a medieval instrument

[frail bloom]

You joke but peak is peak

Doesn't have to be strictly medieval

I was just throwing some instruments

[obsidian shard]

same, but tbf a good chunk of time was figuring out what would be the TDA sound

[frail bloom]

They did say they spent like 2 years on that no?

[obsidian shard]

about a year if I'm not mistaken

[obsidian shard]

there were Organ Samples

same with the Bells

[frail bloom]

I didn't hear that maybe it was synthesized

I want raw organs

[obsidian shard]

probably lol

[frail bloom]

Def heard those

[obsidian shard]

Holy crap my grammer today

[frail bloom]

Holy city used them really well

[obsidian shard]

for real

[frail bloom]

And blood red by extension

Very crispy

[obsidian shard]

also i find that people saying the Sound is generic when you need either a tagelaharpa or a Chello to make is sound similar

[frail bloom]

Grammar isn't on point but the logic sure is

Just kidding, but very true

I guess an emphasis on thrash is more generic then an emphasis on djent

[obsidian shard]

But i dont even know what they mean by Generic cause it sounds different from anything ive heard

[frail bloom]

I guess bc the ost references older metal songs????

But Mick did that too

[obsidian shard]

I suppose

[frail bloom]

I guess the mix of thrash and references gives ppl the idea that it's just generic rehashing

When infact it's actually a love letter to all those metal songs

[obsidian shard]

but going with more djent seems like the generic choice imo, (Considering how many try people to "Replicate" Mick's sound)

[green estuary]

so many mick gordon copycats man

[frail bloom]

It goes over ppl's head

Doesn't matter what you tell them

They'll eat one song with boring djent slop from anyone and call it better then the entire ost for dark ages

[green estuary]

mick is special not because of the type of music he makes (just listen to his work in the wolfenstein series) so much as the fact that he's kind of a genius and he just does things his own way

[frail bloom]

Talking abt geoffrey

[obsidian shard]

Also FM did Write everything, so when people djent-ify their music its just the same thing but with synths instead

[frail bloom]

Like Kaixo

[obsidian shard]

Andy

[frail bloom]

He literally remade cultist base and slapped holy city on the name

[obsidian shard]

Some of its good and some of it is literal ass

[frail bloom]

Nothing against him bc he does it for fun

[obsidian shard]

this is what i mean by ass

[frail bloom]

But like is this seriously worth it over original work

[obsidian shard]

(also he doesnt give credit to FM)

[frail bloom]

He doesn't???

No he had to

[green estuary]

brutal

[frail bloom]

When you think abt he's one of the best composers of the 21st centruy

Deserved glaze, all I'll say

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-why-hes-the-goat-the-goat-bigfellerjake-skippe-space-i-think-gif-26908844

[frail bloom]

He'll be there with beethoven

And bach

[obsidian shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1441456807036846152/1448101554463965267/words.PNG?ex=693a092b&is=6938b7ab&hm=5cfb627d96b12e668bea57bb0ec9e8358f30d505fdf907ee8839c5a4f2aeb0aa&

[green estuary]

the two big Ms of composing history
Mozart and Mick Gordon

[obsidian shard]

I agree with this

[frail bloom]

Ok but this is his oldest, what abt his newest?

Oh and dark ages did have bass segments but they never included it which is a tragedy

In the official ost

Real tragic stuff

Gotta go to gamerip mixes for that

[random sand]

Not sure if he wanted to "fix" it with this or just put his own spin on it

[green estuary]

"his own spin" meaning trying to copy mick gordon's style

let's be real here

[random sand]

Yeah that's what i meant

[green estuary]

people know how much mick gordon is beloved by fans, so they wanna cash in

[obsidian shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1441456807036846152/1448102907575664730/kaix.PNG?ex=693a0a6d&is=6938b8ed&hm=ef9cfb3170f3e3b430b73657d0e83d3518b4913029b9e7c384b7cc30df05d1a4&

[frail bloom]

The only one I liked was the into the void remix and even then he butchered the guitar tone

[obsidian shard]

Nor Mick or FM

[frail bloom]

HEY

It's true!

[green estuary]

infernal chasm + bfg division?

[obsidian shard]

Its Just BFG division 😭

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/the-boys-s4-homelander-cough-disgust-gif-15540398707739933423

[random sand]

I'm ngl, i love Mick Gordon but i'm getting really fucking tired of the people praising him like some kinda music god or something. Like yeah he's good but holy shit

[green estuary]

well he kinda is lol

[frail bloom]

He deserves the praise

But what isn't deserved is the hate others get

[random sand]

He really isn't😭

[green estuary]

like I know there's some hyperbole, but shitting on FM is very different than praising mick

[frail bloom]

That's the issue here

[green estuary]

because a lot of the recent mick praise has come out of a desire to shit on FM's work

[obsidian shard]

Def this

[random sand]

He's good. Don't get me wrong. He's really good. But nowhere near the level people put him

[obsidian shard]

or look at TAG when it first released

[frail bloom]

I think he is, but other ppl can reach it

[elder raven]

my opinion: mick gordon is an amazing composer HOWEVER different composers deserve to have their day covering doom

[frail bloom]

That was a war zone

Never understood why other ppl hated it

I saw the trailer for the first time and simply bobbed to the music cuz it was so peak

Trial of maligog

Very good choice

[elder raven]

the song syncing up with the dashes

[random sand]

Gonna be honest, couldn't even tell it was different until i looked it up

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/pacha-perfection-perfect-emperor's-new-groove-peak-gif-3134211215846993256

[green estuary]

two things can be true at once
I wish mick gordon still did work with bethesda and produced the tda soundtrack
and I also really enjoy what FM did

[frail bloom]

Peak if they all worked together

Or would their vision clash

[elder raven]

this is also how i feel: mick is undoubtedly my favorite person to ever cover doom’s music, and i would love to see more, but i love fm’s work

[random sand]

I wonder if Mick actually could capture the medieval feel needed for TDA. I honestly don't know since he uses so many synths

[frail bloom]

I think he would

He's a very ranged composer

Like seriously ranged

[green estuary]

he has a lot of variety
have you ever played the first two modern wolfenstein games?

[random sand]

Nope

[elder raven]

amazing games + amazing soundtrack

[green estuary]

well you should, if for no other reason than the fact that Mick made the music for both

[random sand]

Gonna need more of a reason than that my man😭

[green estuary]

and obviously the music sounds nothing like DOOM, but it's still absolutely banging

[elder raven]

ironically one of my favorite mick songs isn’t even the songs for doom, it’s the partisan which he made for wolfenstein the old blood

[green estuary]

I mean
awesome gunplay
killing nazi soldiers and robots
badass protagonist

[random sand]

I prefer ripping enemies to shreds with melee weapons and big guns

[green estuary]

you quite literally get to carry a laser cannon

[random sand]

That's cool. Any melee weapons? A sword? Axe? Spear?

[green estuary]

and the new colossus even has its own version of the bfg

[obsidian shard]

Mega Merch drop tomorrow 🙏

[elder raven]

a frankly terrifying fireaxe in wolfenstein ii

you can use it for takedowns

[random sand]

Hmm

[green estuary]

you have knives and hatchets, cuz the game does have a stealth component since it's not a pure arena shooter

[elder raven]

hatchet* i meant

[random sand]

Ugh, stealth

[elder raven]

you dont have to do it lol

i like doing stealth

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-smiling-friends-pim-pim-mr-boss-smiling-friends-boss-gif-11180547071115459009

[green estuary]

the new colossus has really nice gameplay regardless of whether you want to play the game stealthily or just ram into shit

although obviously higher difficulties do encourage you to pick the right tool at the right time

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-friends-psychicpebbles-smiling-friends-pim-pim-smiling-friends-crusty-gif-2385448551073129567

[random sand]

Only games i like doing stealth in are those that give me ranged one shot weapons because it's funny as hell

[green estuary]

well
a hatchet throw or a suppressed pistol headshot takes out most of the enemies in the game

[elder raven]

is the insanity of wolfenstein’s lore comparable to doom

[green estuary]

no

well, maybe, if you count the RPGs

[random sand]

What is their connection actually. Heard there was one

[elder raven]

its more headcanon than anything

[green estuary]

the new order's story is pretty excellent though
although the new colossus is kinda ass on that front

[elder raven]

i love the story of all 3 games but new order was always the strongest

[elder raven]

all three. three

[random sand]

Don't doubt that. Almost more doom headcanons than there are lore atp

[green estuary]

essentially romero said that doomguy is the wolf protag's (BJ Blazkowicz) grandson
also in one of the RPG games BJ literally fights a talking cyberdemon somehow

[gusty seal]

dam everything i check the chat, its like a decade has passed

[elder raven]

it started off as a fun little nod but it somehow lived on and is taken as canon by many doom fans

even the people on death battle put it into a video

[random sand]

They put all sorts of shit in there tho

[elder raven]

do i like it? yeah actually

does it makes sense? 50/50, as i see the classic franchises being more easy to connect rather than the modern franchises (crazy to say considering the dimension lore in wolfenstein 2009 and youngblood)

[gusty seal]

so bethesdqa dropped trailers today

[green estuary]

what

[gusty seal]

for other games not this

[random sand]

Literally had doom slayer go up against master chief only because the first fight was before doom slayer became a demi-god and master chief won so now they needed to do it again to please doom fans😭

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/anger-gif-1658594234228471496

[gusty seal]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHxhOQsSj6E

[elder raven]

skyrim rerelease

[obsidian shard]

FINALLY

Been waiting 14 years for skyrim to release

[elder raven]

the dlc will be skyrim

[gusty seal]

then there was this confusion lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIe-6j_y_Lk

[gusty seal]

acutally it will indiana jones riding alduin as he fights the slayer in oblivion

you play as the slayer o/c

once you take down alduin, you find out why all the dragons bow to you, its a bonus scenes that takes place before ;]

you are the dovahkiin

I base that on absolutely nothing.

[elder raven]

uac stocks plummeting

[gusty seal]

https://tenor.com/view/market-markets-stock-stocks-meter-gif-15341424798131887958

[lavish acorn]

Guys I’m back

[violet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/hey-lol-doomslayer-hey-lol-doomslayer-doom-zzz777-gif-25352075

[gusty seal]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-gif-18575400

[solar spoke]

The game just wants to kill you on higher difficulties. It's brutal lol