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not happening, Plus a Spear has been Confirmed (And leaked)
wait it was leaked too?
Yup, VERY leaked (Just Code)
wasnt it just the weapon
ohh a crucible would be cool, but a spear would rlly match the vibe, but def not ahzraks one
nvm saw it rn damn
the Only other Spear would be the Komodo's Chainsaw Spear
ye, I'm not gonna share anything tho.
oh i haven’t played in a while after i finished the game for 2nd time, ill gotta search on the web
but it will be cool to see doomguy with a spear, would be like kratos with his drupnir spear
I still think they could powerplay and make Slayers spear the Spear Of Destiney from Wolf 3d
Truly make that connection between Wolfenstein and Doom clear
I wanna see me me
This would be awesome; have a cyberdemon be the first enemy to test it on too, just to hammer it home
do we have an eta for the dlc?
The future
fuck.
2026 prob
it is confirmed 2026 yes
dont expect any shadowdrop or anything during december lmao
Not if the ID offices explode
Hey everyone, I'm fighting the first titan but I don't get how to kill it
You have to charge up your big shot by hitting it with the normal turret, then hit it with the big one three times
That's true
New Skins are available in chapter 1? I did everyrhing and look everywhere but it only say I did 32% of this chapter
I don’t remember what it’s called
He looks like the Ice Age baby
Oh dang thanks
when would you ever use the summoned swords and ground fissure over heaven splitter
like i get using the turret for dps against bosses
Fully upgraded they kill everything in sight
Damn
I stopped using them amd started using heaven splitter instead because i actually wanna fight the enemy. Don't wanna see everything die from one parry
In a parry and melee only run...
Ground fissure for armour and ethereal daggers for destroying enemy armour
What if the statue is the desert is for the dlc
My face when I heared the fist time Hugo Fartin
lol
Relatable
any News about the dlc?
7 months since i paid for it and nothing being announced is kinda #Crazy
I feel like this is a relatively new thing
a few years back you wouldn't see people complaining if a major campaign expansion was still deep in development six months after the game's launch
or maybe I just never noticed, I dunno
Wasn’t it 7 months between Eternal’s launch and TAG’s first trailer?
It was exactly 7 months between Eternal's launch and TAG 1's launch
March 20 + seven months = October 20
Ah nah, just looked it up, 5 months between Eternal’s launch and TAG’s first trailer. Still a long time regardless
what is the best melee weapon
I wonder. If we are really going to get a spear, how is it going to work for the throwing? Just holding Melee?
My guess is its either a melee weapon with a two slash combo with the third being a lunge or throwing it and teleporting to it if it hits an enemy or it replaces shield combat
But it could possibly be a gun too. Maybe a bfc replacement
But most definitely just a new melee if I had to put money on it
It's gonna be a melee weapon most likely
I’m hoping for more than just a melee weapon
I do wanna believe that the spear might also be the tool used for traversal
Interesting...
We'll come to know soon
Hopefully soon, though I wouldn’t mind waiting longer if it meant more time for Id to cook
Maybe some more sneak peek in this week's stream
Don't worry, they're gonna cook hard
I’ve been play’n Doom since I was 4, and outside of TAG 2 they really haven’t let me down much
Saying that makes me sound like I’m old
I wasn’t alive in the 90’s, due to my birth I got to Doom late
I’m just hoping the dlc shakes up the combat like they say it will
Cause Dark Ages combat just kinda blows
Like I love that its different from Eternal but it has an issue where you only need like 1 or 2 guns
While Eternal has use for all guns
Plasma rifle
The microbeam wave for the ghosts in TAG
I said that backwards
Microwave beam
Meh it's cheap
Cheap? Its the savior to those who fucking hate them
Which should be everyone, those ghosts sucks
during combat yeah but most weapons are viable in most situations and u can pick and choose, meanwhile in eternal it felt like u can just ssg balllista anything and everything icl
I beat TDA shotgun only on uv no fucking problem
"you control the buttons you press"
Classic Doom had it good
It's cheap that they had to give the plasma rifle an artificial use
It's like the stone imp
I’m glad they changed the stone imps to shield uses
I mean they had to because no more weapon mods
also why r u playing on UV
I did it for that run
I usually play custom difficulty
I also haven’t gotten back into TDA
But for a standard one gun run it felt appropriate
I’m sure I could do it on higher difficulties, wasn’t really difficult
Not easy but not hard
Its all to say TDA is kinda boring
That was one run dude
I played TDA maybe five or six times total
Once for 100% then nightmare and whatever the highest difficulty was
The game just doesn’t have my favorite gunplay
Everything else about it was peak though
no one knows ? why it say I only did 32%
If you want there are guides on YouTube for all the secrets
there's a difference between having a use for all guns and requiring all guns, both games have a use for all guns, and neither requires using a ton of them
utilizing more guns in both games is better, but to the degree this is can vary
"you control the inputs" isn't a real response though
Yeah, doesn’t change the fact that the game is boring gun wise
But I dunno, I’ll replay TDA again soon
I haven’t played since Battlemode came out
I still can't believe people think this is a good argument for bad game design
I’ve never heard anyone say it till today
But in my case I’m not calling TDA’s weaponry bad game design, I’m just saying the games boring
Weapon wise
I still enjoy the enemies a lot
love tda weapons , they're punchy and unique
Thx
tbf i said that before finding out he played the game before the shotgun only run, at first to me it just sounded like the guy played his first run like that while saying u dont need any other guns, like sure you technically dont but also, why play like that? but if he finds it boring to him then i cant really do much about that
I play games very thoroughly before doing challenge runs
it still isn't a response to someone critiquing game design
i just feel like there's a difference between objectively bad game design and subjectively bad game design
but i get ya
i don't really think something can subjectively be bad game design, as i think that's inherently "objective"
although i get what you mean and 100% agree
Gud morning TDA channel
good afternoon
yoyo
Sup LM
My criticism is all opinion
I just think the weapons are lame and really went down a step from their previous 2 games
Like yeah, the difference in the games is good but that difference doesn’t keep you from improving the system
Them stepping away from weapon mods is fine but to replace it with little things that hardly change combat is a little disappointing
Is this fair to say regarding the gunplay?
Doom Eternal: A lot of "burst" fire guns/mods and weapon switching.
Doom TDA: A lot of automatic firing guns that you spray in an area or pump into one target.
-There is more thinking involved in Eternal if you look at it this way alone, but with TDA the combat variety/mixups come from incorporating the shield and melee more.
I think people get hooked on using the super shotgun in TDA not just because it's powerful, but because it packs a massive punch and feels good to BOOM-reload-next target-BOOM repeat.
The SSG was fine in TDA but I main used the Cycler, reg shotgun, and grenade launcher with the occasional skull crushed if I’m feeling bored
But hardly did I use the chainshot or reg plasma or even the other skull weapon
make it six or seven
But they absolutely cooked with the BFC
Its basically the crossbow from Heretic on crack
Its an Xbox controller right?
Figured, no one should have to suffer an Xbox console
I’m no console war man, but Xbox is cooked rn
I'm pleased everyone likes the new emote I added🤗
If I was gonna buy a console it'd probably be an xbox tbh, the backwards compatibility is a great selling point
Its practical, precise, I commend you for the addition
Xbox price raises made it a scam console
The damn things gonna be $900 if things don’t calm down 😭
lol
They are also owned by Microsoft who are absolutely trash
But as long as they don’t hold back their subsidiaries it should be fine
I don’t want them screwing Id like they screwed over other game studios
Who knows, there's not much sense to what they decide to shut down
Almost feels random
ts bonkers 😭
I don't know what you guys think of this theory, but I think it would be dope asf if we got the meathook super shotgun from doom eternal with the shield saw in the dlc since in doom eternal, vega mentioned "your super shotgun is nearby, a realic from your past, the preist have kept it hidden from you in this remote location" and I think that this alone could easily be foreshadowing the weapon in TDA. but idk
i actually don't think this is too bonkers
there's just no alt fire button so i'm not sure how it would work
Would be cool but it's def not happening
Yea ig so I just think lore wise it would fit in pretty well
But the Slayer Could get it during the Civil war or when he got trapped in hell
So there is still plenty of time left for him to get it
bring me the pain elemental for the dlc... i miss the stupid meatball
hugo said dark ages will lead imto the testament
that's as close as we get timeline wise and the testament was a long while before
Yea true
I was also thinking that we may see the dark lord and or kahn makyr from the eternal were he might have already fought davoth, since he did say in the dlc "are you prepared now, for this?"
Idk man I rly like thinking abt what they can do with the lore
So many possibilities
(I fucking love doom)
my only issue with the lore is i feel like when they execute it in the cutscenes it falls a bit flat, minus the samur reveal that was epic
the true horror
i wonder if they'll take cues from the 64 design for the pain elementals next in game appearance. it'd make sense yeah?
are you saying to bring back the mullet?
i mean they have the imps hair for dark ages i feel like if we get a dark age pain elemental they could rock a mullet
just means fantasy demons get hair
i mean, honestly the 64 design was the closest we had before TDA to a lovecraftian kinda design yeah?
true horror is this if you dead you will be respawn demon but doom slayer is behind you!
that is oh! shit
Now that I think about it, 64 also had a level that felt quite out of place - The Void , one where you get a demon key
yeah thats normal its just the paying part
I know exactly the one you're talking about! It was abstract enough coulda been in the lovecraftian realms 🤷🏻♀️🤔 especially since it was filled with pain elementals anyway
i don't think the meathook would work well in tda
Nobody forced you to pay for the premium edition lol
It didn’t even say anything about release date of the dlc when you paid for it
yeah nobody did. i am still allowed to question a product i paid for
We have gotten tons of teasers so far tho too, (From the Hugo Streams) And that the DLC is under HEAVY development
Nobody’s disallowing you from doing so
But expecting an announcement within some arbitrary time range despite the devs themselves not putting out any promises in that regard is very silly
New DOOM: The Dark Ages DLC news:
- They are going to progress the lore that we have been asking about, efforts are being made to progress the lore forward
- Some connections till be made to 2016 as a result
- Some teases about the Civil War, the Wretch and "Armor ?", hmm...
- About a third of the DLC content will be inaccessible until you have completed the DLC story
- Slayer gates are making a return!
- About 70% of the game can be completed during while playing the story and the rest of the content is only accessable after completing the story
- Hugo got asked "what happened after 2016's ending" and he briefly responded "that is a different game..." (interesting...)
- New DOOM crossover/crossovers with other IPs might be in the works...
we only got like 1 official teaser which was an image and the rest is from hugo streams jus talking about it. only details is that we have a movement ability/weapon that rhymes with tear (probably a spear) and that we are probably targeting the council of hell. and that the betrayers son is gonna be a big part of the dlc i think.
Spear and Order of Six is fully confirmed
thats still quite a bit of info
i mean, usually id expect a lil bit more of official teasers other than the one image we got. call me silly but i dont know
slayer gates ... interesting
Plus we got 3 Free Updates to the Game (Ripatorium, Music Enhancements, QOL)
as far as the story after 2016. We need 2016 DLC. just imagine that
the way that the spear was revealed was a very funny way i dont think hugo expected us to just go with a spear as confirmed lmao
hello slayers!
oh yeah nah im not denying that the free updates are cool. im jus wishin for a lil more information about the dlc that isnt just hugo confirmed stuff
we also got
- Marok will be involved in the DLC, which clearly means he will play a bigger role
- We will most likely going to see more cosmic realm in the DLC!
- DLC cutscenes will be more immersive/in first person
- More backtracking throughout the levels, more unlocking of the space
- More mobility options for those who want it (this will be optional. in some instances it will be required but for the most part it will be optional)
- The order of the six is confirmed to be the High Council, also kinda confirming that the DLC will be revolved around them
- The Witch won't be in the DLC
which is understandable, but its a chuncky DLC from the sounds of it so all i have to say is
LET EM COOK
Well yea she's dead
side note i do not like the dlc cutscene direction they are taking if it means we dont get to see the slayer's armor
didnt the witch die lmao
i hope there are baalgar demons and masterminds
Give me a Maledictlike demon ffs
Codex states its a "Host" body, However deal with Hell could've stripped her of her power....
lowkey i do not like the way hugo emphasised on the mobility being optional part. hope he means it is optional the same way the meathook was "optional" in doom eternal
im sure we will lol, should be a mix of 2016 style cutscenes and eternal/tda style cutscenes
Spear Leap is the current Rumor (or teleport as Midnight said, but I Say its Leap like a flesh Node)
i dont think she's coming back after that explosion from the host body lmao. i think the host body stuff is kinda like a parasite, kill the host and you kill the parasite
but them being more immersive and in first person imo is the right choice
i much rather the actiony 3rd person cutscenes where we get to see his sick ass armor
whats weird to me about that is we already have a leap ability from the shield
Also Nick-picking Hugos statements are dumb asf
ite either they are all right
or they are all wrong imo
i really really hope its not just shield bash again but this time you also jump
yes, but i was thinking of a use anywhere kinda thing
eeh
doubt that ngl
what does that mean
would be insanely underwhelming if thats what it is
All part of speculation i suppose
if the shield already has that and we get a new weapon and it does the same thing
hugo did say everything they add will be meaningful and stuff so i doubt its that (yes ik hugo says alot of things
)
hope it doesnt break the game like the hammer did LOL
hammer was fun as hell but DAMN was it broken
Choosing what statements Hugo says on stream are real or not
eg, Slayer Empowers his Weapons, Witch is dead asf, Kreed Maykr worms are in a symbiotic relationship with him
She's on an entirely different plane of existence, so to manifest in physical plane she needed a host body. That being said I'm certain we'll see her again later.
wait did he actually say all that
Also YES I finally found where the Slayer empowering weapons comes from!
UAC Atlantica Live stream, Hugo and Josh say he does (Answer to a 2016 Codex)
Ive been binge-ing tf out the past livestreams for my video
i mean, this could also be said on how she is defeated, cause she manifested in a vulnerable form. like getting into a car and then crashing it
man the loreheads must HATE the livestreams
yes
The best way to follow DOOM lore is to not do it
i know hugo also is a writer for the lore but i feel like he should discuss stuff like that with the other writers before confirming stuff
Cause, some Lore heads do listen to them, Some don't, so its all over the place, and a pain in the ass (autocorrect sucks)
the best way to follow doom lore is to just treat it like an action comic book lore. where half the stuff contradict other stuff but nobody cares cause its pretty cool
M0no once said Classic DOOM is like a saturday morning cartoon and that has never left my mind
i was just about to mention him lmao
Think basically she was just projecting her consciousness onto a body, using it like a puppet, that's what I'm getting at. By destroying the puppet you just severe the strings attached.
hmmmm. honestly by the way she "died" it seemed more than the puppet was destroyed. i guess we gon have to wait and see
Hugo says she dead, Codex says, She COULD be alive
For all intents and purposes I will never value the word of the art's director over the actual art
i swear Hugo has to prep smth for a lore AMA or smth
I'm so excited for the dlc
REAL
A lore AMA stream would be awesome
The opportunity for disaster there is insane
any ama stream would be awesome 🥹
Hugo gets prep time
(Batman Style)
that sounds extremly cool, imagine the shield with a hook tho :)) it would catch on zombies and then pull itself into the enemy and maybe one of the spikes could be like a harpoon. also the shield gets stuck in the enemy and activates the saw
maybe it would even slice completely through weak enemies, basically trading the throw for like a hook, you get me?
wait does the codex update after she dies??? i dont remember that part
It doesn't no
but why
where does it mention she could be alive then
i think its more brutal
it implies she could be alive, doesnt outright say
by saying her body is a vessel
than throwing
hugo: "o yea davoth is like a normal guy he's nuthin compared to the REAL big baddy we got in this game"
i still think being in a vessel still puts you in the risk of death
eh, i dont
bruh
we already have an enormous chainsaw shield that literally digs out enemies' insides
"Ulsamir is a living conduit for the dark magic coursing through her alien dimension. Her current body is but a temporary vessel, fragile and fleeting, used to manifest her malicious spirit in the physical world"
Anyways gtg, got work, tt y'all later
yeah I know.. I just enjoy more detailed mechanics in the weapons. just my opinion tho
yeah nevermind she's def alive then.
Ooooo nah thats kinda tough
ikr, maybe when the shield is in enemies the chainsaw spikes would shoot out and get pulled back in after
Id also like to see a doom game were we played a modern version of doom 1993 like in a flash back in dark ages or smt
I've been thinking abt how sick that would be
damnn yeahh
the og doom level design was peak
but the grafiks are just not to todays standards anymore (which absolutely isnt bad, i love retro grafiks)
hold on a bloody second
Agreed, like if we had the whole 1993 edition with today's graphics
this was in eternal
you could walk through a 1993 passage if i am remembering right
sorry for my horrible english, its not my first language
ooohhh
In 2016 you can play through a handful of original levels but they look the same aside from the demons and pickups
Coolio
I think devs need some time to think of how Ulsamir's comeback should be like what are her motives gonna be the next time, her new look and stuff
Maybe TDA 2 or sometime in the far future...
Yeah I totally think we’ll see Belias and Ulsamir again
Hugo stated that the team didn’t really have any plans to bring the Witch back, and that in his eyes, she’s dead. He said it’s technically a possibility, but they haven’t written anything ahead regarding her. She’s an interesting addition to the series, so I hope that, in some clever way, she’ll make a return
I’m not sure what other threat could possibly arise from more Cosmic Realm content though
Major antagonist in DOOM Eternal 2
Well it’ll have to be something, because the cosmic realm is seemingly gonna be in the dlc (with no Ulsamir)
"Hey guys we're gonna mention that the witch is currently using a temporary vessel but she's gonna stay dead when you kill her anyway"
Right?? That was my exact thoughts to Hugo’s statement
Maybe we can fight a giant cacodemon on foot
I’m sure there’s plenty more to explore with the Cosmic Realm
ahem… the Maykr’s ancestry… ahem
I wasn’t gonna say nothing! I’m right there with you on that
If they never connect them in some way, and it was just some sort of “artistic similarity,” then it’ll be a bit disappointing
she's kinda boring im not gonna lie
honestly the characters in dark ages are pretty unmemorable in general
especially the betrayer which was a huge dissappointment on my part
only one thats kinda interesting is ahzarak
I’ll back you on that. He never got a proper introduction, just radio dialogue that popped in out of nowhere in the second mission. He had a very limited presence in the narrative
it would have been really cool to see him being the focus due to him basically being the reason the sentinals lost the civil war
like he's really a huge plot point and him taking a backseat in this game was pretty dissappointing
I think the betrayal will be another game or at the end of the dlc
I found it odd as well. When you think of a prequel set in the “sentinel wars,” you’d think he’d have a big focus, but the most focus on a sentinel we got was in a new character entirely, Thira.
I think since Marok will have a larger role in the DLC, the Betrayer will naturally be more present as well
I think Valen hasn't had much luck also Eternal; he only appears in Exultia without a full explanation of who he is, for those who haven't read the 2016 codex.
yea he felt like he was just mentioned because he had to be
It was made clear in Eternal that he was the one who trained the Slayer, so you’d expect him to be more present
And than he back in TAG 2
witch pt 2 would fit great in the cosmic realm. being that her current entity in tda is just a vessel. get her back to her home land with full power
Sadly probably not gonna be in dlc, but I think she’d fit in for a game post-Eternal
tag 2 already built up the cosmic realm so itd make sense to follow eternal with more of that
Agreed
Well, according to Hugo the under water creature from Atlantica is also from the Cosmic Realm, and teaser of that place.
Ulsamir or not, I think the Cosmic Realm is the way to revive the series after TAG2
most people that didn't like the TAG2 were big doom fans tho. the majority of people loved the dlc
i dont remember this curious critter youre referring to
I loved it as well, I meant revived as in “continue” lol, my bad. I think having the cosmic realm be involved would be the most fitting way to continue the story forward
That’s the one
Yup
Yep, he’s confirmed to be a “cosmic horror,” his intention was to tease the next ideas going forward
Quake fans cry
Which is cool, you could say that much of the other titanic tentacle creatures can also be traced back there
certainly. just gotta be done right. can't just be plopped in there. with the dlc, i really hope they dive a bit deeper into the cosmic realm as it doesn't really do that in TDA. Doom Slayer just kinda leaps in there and kills everything in his way to save Thira
I think they will. I think this game was just testing the waters, getting us familiar with it, before fully lore dumping too much knowledge about an entirely new dimension
I gotta say, the more I think about the Witch, the more I like her. Despite the general fear Hell has of the Slayer, she never hesitated to throw down with him despite all the stuff she was probably bearing witness to. Cosmic realm is just built different in that regard.
I'm really curious if more worlds will be introduced in future games?
In 2016 Argent D'nur, in Eternal Urdak and remnants of Jekkad and TDA has the Cosmic Realm.
I personally hope they cool it a bit with constantly cannibalizing their other franchises
Seeing Jekkad in its prime would be cool, just don’t know how it would he pulled off. The Ingmore Sanctum and the Holt is the closest we’ll probably get
Davoth spin-off game
been a firm advocate for this despite it likely not happening ever
i want more davoth
ive been mentioning a thira spinoff game but...
her abilities could have some cool ass gameplay
love thira but spinoff worthy idk
I think her lack of knowledge of the Slayer had to do with that, along with her natural status as a mythical/powerful being.
Maybe she did fear him the same way the demons do, but perhaps she was so desperate to her cause (saving her world) that she was as willing to go against the odds
I think you're looking too much into it. I know it's fun and all to worry abt what can go wrong but this ain't covid, this ain't tag 2, I think they have it in the bag. They're just giving tiny teasers to keep us interested. Btw, I got a big dlc document if you want to see it
Ppl have been showing you the most important stuff I suppose but I got it outlined and everything
The Ancient Gods Part Two was a great conclusion for DOOM, ID should move on to other DOOM related games I think
Woke
thats true. tag 2 was still really good despite covid severely limiting it. so im sure they got this in the bag. im just worried about the keyword optional, as in "make your own fun" as opposed to eternal forcing you to specific stuff which i honestly liked
He is very awake, that’s how he’s typing
Real
Great observation
if that happens twitter would be the biggest shithole for like a year
though i might be reading too much into it yeah
Well if you think abt it, parrying and meleeing is integral to the dark ages loop but how much you decide to melee, how much you parry, is up to you
It already is
like it isn’t already lol
I think of the mobility option as the same thing
(it already is but i digress)

That’s why I’m glad DOOM is on Bluesky now
tbf at least my posts arent full of idiots
its actually mostly positive
95% of the time
Same for mine, so there's that
Now, do you wanna see that big document I've been typing up for months
But ya, it would LITERALLY be Hell
yup
Why ain't thira washin the dishes
l o l
oh yeah...
Who cares, shes such a baddie ngl
the quote tweets on that make me wanna do smth
Bruh
What
Nothing I just like saying bruh
Bruh
Bruh
Bruh
Can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic Samir
With what
Your words
What words
Words
Can't, he's coming to fortnite
Finally
Oh wow, even old ass looking ship, I missed that back then.
Definitely they already had in mind how cosmic realm would look like
True, now all the pieces fell in their place
If it happens in this dlc I'm gonna come with the notion that it's for the next game
If I see smt strange
Or unique
gonna keep my eyes peeled as well, environments in general are interesting to look at
I feel like they already teased the high council with all the statues in hell with dark ages
Hugo hasn't outright confirmed it's abt the high council as some ppl suggest but we can easily say it's abt the high council given how he handles talking abt them and what we see in hell while playing tda
Considering the many hints of Cosmic Realm's presence throughout Eternal i wouldn't be surprised if they return to it or go even further beyond.
And y'know another example would be vega foreshadowing the maykrs, as he was made of smt "arcane"
Say what you want abt the story but id writers know how to foreshadow
yeah, that was probably one of more in your face ones
2016 also has like 2 multiplayer maps set in Argent D'Nur environments where all that imagery was present
True I forgot abt those maps
How do i change my melee weapons and shield runs in the ripatourium
You have to go in settings and assign them to different buttons
And it's a swap button I don't think you can individually choose what melee on what bind but I could be wrong. I'm on console so my only option is to just cycle between melees
Also on console. I’m so used to just going into the menu that i still dont properly use my bound rune swap. What are your binds if i may ask?
I have my left button on the dpad, which cycles melee left, and my right button cycles melee to the right. The upper botton on the dpad cycles runes to the right, and the lower button on the dpad cycles runes to the left
The only problem is that the lower button on the dpad shares the same button as the objectives marker
You can unbind objective marker by pressing the same button when changing the bind. If done right, it’ll just have a “?” In the space
Do you use the weapon wheel?
And thank you
Thank you for telling me that! No I don't use the weapon wheel I just switch on the fly
I have weapons set to dpad. Makes it easy to swap between them
Real
You’re welcome! And I should specify the same button it’s currently bound to! I also switch on the fly and don’t use it either. I also found out you can bind reaver chainshot and BFC on the same button and they will swap and what’s nice if you switch away and switch back, it’ll bring up the reaver first so you don’t accidentally fire off a BFC shot. Now if you double tap in panic, no guarantees you won’t fire off a shot but it frees up a button
Without a doubt! TDA was just the introduction of it

Like how they foreshadowed Samuel was the Seraphim in 2016 ha Ha
is that art book out soon?
I think it's already out
how did i not know that?
Now you do!
im a shitty doom fan
darkhorse tweeted about it not long ago
hmm, well says pre order still on the site
other than that not much else so i dont blame u xD
but it should be out officially now
i preordered and got mine yesterday
a day earlier than they said it would be here!
99% stuff ive seen before
Hm
rest nothing crazy
but i think its really cool to have it all in a physical book anyway
they showed so much concepts anyways so couldnt have been much else
How organized is it, does it go by enviroments, enemies, story, weapons
yes
Cool
i really want to make a lot of the unused concepts into demons for mods. but i still a fair bit away
It appears International is shipping first
Peam
Ah that's awesome
first demon I will be making is the Doom Eternal baron ideations
all the toys are also there 
no 
Well that's a bummer
How did they forget abt the whiplash and lost soul in the model viewer
Where's the hell knight
That's the battle knight
I CRAVE DOOM YOUTOOZ
Missing three toys huh
-prince Azhrak-
no, ass crack
Here I am hoping that the model viewer adds the dlc enemies but they're already missing the lost soul and whiplash
What’s the cross out markdown again?
I wanna see them in total fidelity
also theres no fatass cosmic mancubus concept art here, refunding rn

How dare they
Prince Azhrak
Piss Asscrack
🔥
Battle Knight supremacy
Need Ahzrak Merch
Bronze to gold...
idk why the blur is so weird oh well
GIMME
should've given the battle knight a battle axe
yup, hella cool
Why is The DOOM: Arena board game where most of demon "Merch" will be from
Erm
i think he does sir
Asscrack merch
But great Axe is cooler
There's a difference?
DONT BE DISSIN MY GOAT
He has an axe that's all I know
I'm going to plutonicly stab you
MY BOY
Cat is sleeping on my arm, so it will have to wait
that far left one is hella sick tho
Mancubus 👉👈
One to one with the classics
is this from the book?? I'm planning on ordering it on monday 😄
CAN I BUY IT PHYSICALLY
Yes
WOO
Who tf are you
Woah
Christ the Mancu could use some goddamn sun
Peam, I'm crying it's so peak ( I am not actually crying)
i wouldnt blame u
HE DOES
Idk either
U sent me a request…why?
he has a 2 handed one but he is so strong so he just yeets it with one hand
I'm 99% sure that axe is too small to be a 2 handed axe
i dont think thats how friends work
The manc on the bottom right looks like a 2016 manc
And then that fucking thing tracks you, Agent 47 ahh powers
Doom 3 manc should come back as an eldritch version of the manc
That don't look small to me
He is Wayyyy bigger than the Slayer btw
Ye like almost double the size
well yeah it'd be a greataxe if the slayer was holding it
What
That axe is frickin ginormous
but size is relative
He’s bigger than the slay-
Duh
WHAT THE FUCK
look at the size comparisons in the ripatorium
Go on the ripatorium, and you'll see a size chart
And he has the over the head attack where he uses both hands for the axe
I love axes (please have one in DLC)
tbh i dont think all those are accurate 
I don’t fuckin have TDA cuz switch😭
of what
Why which ones
Nah they def are
they're accurate to the 3d models in the game at least
The komodo
The Goatmodo
not much for the komodo
good
Get outta here
jankmodo
Yes. Fire spike lizard with spike
the adhdmodo
the komodo doesnt deserve anything
That's weird it's the most bizarre
Tismmodo
They just winged it?
all bro got is one page
He looks like a bear here
idk what bears u be seeing
Nvm
once youve played tda youll never want to stop beating komodos to death with your bare hands
Vagary
The revenant looks like this
left ones really cool
careful what u asking for
Vagary
certainly an example of where the final product turned out waaay cooler than the initial concept art
yes!
That one skull with the guns meme
bro i need the book so badly, i'm jealous!
I WILL SEARCH EVERY INDIGO IN CANADA
left one with a bit of tweaks could pass as a cosmic realm variant
yup
I have no idea why you like the vagary so much
okay I really wanna ask, what's your favourite design in TDA? mine's the Komodo, he's fucking cool looking!
revenant
revenant is sick, i love his design too
komodo might be 2nd
cyberdemon
vega what..
What's your favorite enemy Mr sophisticsted
Fellow Canadian
not the vagary lol
HIYA JAY ❤️
ehhh Howdy Gums, How ya doing?
Both of ur choices i like too…but i also like cyber, and even maybe-uhhh….SERRAT
Sup guys
well pardon me for not liking stomach acid spat at me
Salutations
It's my fav design not my fav enemy to fight
well also I fucking hate spiders
so peak
Well I do too
Maykry! Me likey
homie bout to 1v1 in smash
bruh delete that
all hail Doom slayer
i think this was from the scrapped limbo level
Doom 2016 ish
"world tree" is the label for that one
In the reveal trailer and dev direct, we were gonna have an atlan forge as one of our levels
FORGE???
Ye
Holy shit awesome
Woh
Derg
Moar derg
PACIFIC RIIIIIIMMMMMMMM
I LOVE IT
So this would be between the second level and third level
Because think abt it we just walk through some giant door
And suddenly we're in a mech
This is some 40k shit and I love it
I suspect that's where they had that atlan forge level
yeah but level got too long and honestly i dont think it was gonna have enemies anyway, it was just gonna be a walkway to the atlan
wouldve been sick tho
Pit em against MV goji and my life is yours
If they have more atlan segments I'd love one more titan enemy ai
I would be asking for two, but they gotta make other enemies aswell
honestly i hope theres one atlan segment and thats it
some of these side views are new, on the bottom left
nice
yep
Like a level, or a segment as in part of a level
also they only call it "reaver" in the book, not Reanimator
Reanimator wouldn't make any sense anyway
That makes sense
i love the bottom left
Reaver is the Weapon Class
nothing to show there tbh
Wow
actually
The hype was unreal
Its straight terrifying
ye
That full body pic of the imp stalker looks different then the final thing
does say "ideation" below it
its so good
They really cooked with what designs they chose
I cannot say the same for eternal imo
These are kinda weird
I remember thinking the baron we got was really different but these are straight up not similar at all
cosmic demons
only i have digital art of the doom the dark ages
ALIENS…
Do they have art for enemies that never made it?
Huh eternal had a lot of those iirc
i want birth day present art of the doom the dark ages
they might show more after dlc is out
both dlc stuff and unused things from the entire game
You think they draw dlc stuff way before the game releases?
luckly i have a doom eternal artbook
before base game release?
Ye
for sure
I can't wait for the archvile concept art
they prob already got many of the designs now prob even last year

imma cook on my preset now cuz ive been delaying it
Awesome
i got almost 2 of the rounds done, need 1 more
im making less but making all 3 more hard
like even round 1 should feel like a normal warmup but its not easy per se
Well I can't wait
if anyone wants to playtest soon i can send it 
All I play is the ripatorium since I finished un
then ill make a trailer once i get some feedback and adjust things if necessary
yeah just in general, ill be posting it in the ripatorium channel soon
Sweet
i might also set a timer limit as an extra challenge
i wish there was smth between 5 and 8 mins
maybe 6, 7?

we have truly hit the lowest of lows
didnt even mean to do that joke ngl but i realised i had the perfect opportunity
Nah, peak has just started
You gotta embrace the peam
Dang
unchained predator, unholy siege, infernal chasm, into the void, theomachy and from the ashes
also they should definitely let us add custom music that would be sick
I dont see why they shouldn't do it
I guess it promotes the music for the dark ages more
Plus some assholes are gonna go, " loOk thiS mUsic is So bAd They HaD to geT MiCk's stUfF in JuSt to AppEase the pLaYer bAse"
well those guys are assholes obviously
Well yeah lol
who cares what music you listen to lol
Idk it's my reasoning they may have a different reason
I just want my own custom tracks thats all
Bury the light and devil trigger would go hard
also, what the fuck did you put into that "hell hates you" preset 😭
Plus they gotta have someone mix in all those songs which is prob annoying to do
that acolyte leader is genuinely evil
Really? It's the easiest part of the preset to me
Acolytes in general are evil
I just hate the acolyte as is
It's just one acolyte
Oh boy I love roleplaying as a dinosaur from 66 mya
I've played presets with like 4 of them
they're not even that hard to fight just the constant area denial thing is annoying
it's like you're walking on eggshells
That's true
Them meteors man
also when theres like 400 different enemies its sometimes hard to even get to them
The clone is also annoying
the clone is there just to ragebait you honestly
Oh yeah how do you guys deal with armored arachnotrons
but it'd be too easy to just blast him with the SSG once, no you gotta hunt him down twice
They keep sniping ke
shieldbash or break their armor with the chainshot then oneshot them with the SSG
or farm armor off them with the combat shotgun that works too
Alr if anyone is available to test my preset, let me know with any feedback before i post it anywhere else:
Round 1: 0A422VH0G00842
Round 2: 0GJ000400C61004
Round 3: GRG03R084004400R
also try with 8 minutes time limit
sry this is unrelated to the preset rn but, How do you still have the shieldsaw pfp decoration on discord
mine disappeared months ago
idk, i just kept my subscription going i guess
I listen Dawn of the damned and devil trigger music.
is it a nitro thing?
i guess so
Alr I can try it now hato
nicee
imo round 1 and 2 im happy with, not sure about the order i should put them in but yeah
What arena
i dont like khalim, too flat
I like khalim
harbor of souls is alright i guess
i like the atmosphere of khalim
oh i do too
the rain and the moon is cool
just too flat
It's flat for those who want to utiliza flat arenas
That's why we want more maps tho
all 3 maps have awesome skyboxes tho
khalim might be one of my favourite atmospheres in any level really
rain in video games just appeals to me
I really hope they dont decide to cut that
the concept art looked so cool
if they showed it, they didnt cut it
i hope it's like uac atlantica but better
thats like already a level in the dlc build for release 100%
It's one of my fav levels
oh yeah I'm really excited for a master level version of khalim
20 barons
u will get master level for every level 
also sucks that they used unchained predator in it but then never again
def one of my favorite tracks
i need to know which track has those bell-like sounds
i think it's one of the cosmic realm tracks
Blood red
I found a fm hater in the wild
I must post soon
ah yes, blood red the cosmic realm track
who and where
I'll show you later I gotta play hatos preset
No he just thought of the wrong place
Doom the dark ages should’ve been open RPG world
nt
What’s your thoughts about the fortress of Doom it should’ve been in the game
maybe in the dlc
the kreeds ship probably got transformed/redesigned similar to the fortress of doom
oh i get it
i was thinking of the opening to into the void
What dlc
theres gonna be a campaign dlc early next year
DOOM: The Dark Ages DLC
I hate this stupid bug
I keep dying bc my dreadmace won't work
It just won't swing
I hate when I try to swing it and the demon does like a backwards dash and dodges it
or when I get interrupted during the swing animations because I took damage thats also annoying
@harsh egret alr I did it
I had a bit a trouble early on cuz of a bug but it's well balanced
was it just the right difficulty or
I thought it was
(i would want it to be pretty challenging)
It is pretty challenging
i just like to take it a notch above whats plain hard for me

what about the order of the rounds
did it feel right
or would u change it
specifically the first 2
I feel the second round should be the last round imo
what if i did one rev leader only instead
instead of all the revs
i think i had 2 leaders and 1 normal
or would it be too easy

I see him everywhere
No keep it the same
Ive seen that guy before
What an asshole
i just want the 3rd round last
but i also dont want it to be easier than the 2nd round
Nah keep it as it is I just personally found round 2 the hardest cuz of the revenants
hmm
well either gonna put it out tmr or maybe thursday after my exam with a trailer and all that good stuff
I was gonna make a trailer for mine
But it's been way too long
I just need to make a better one
ye just make a trailer for the next one prob
i wish i was better at sfx than only at audio mixing 
i have so many cool ideas that just wouldnt sound good if i tried
trust me i have tried before
Well each time you've tried you learn smt new
yeah but i already got so much on my plate so i cba to learn all that too
I really liked the trailer you made for hells trials
that was you right
hoping to improve some of the transitions but we'll see what i can make work for my next one
yeah
it'll always be there! i still got some i havent played too
frankly eternal's OST is really overhyped (though it's still awesome, don't get me wrong)
obviously there are some absolute banger tracks but to me there are an equal number of tracks that I'm not that crazy about
^
honestly I still like eternal's and overall mick's work better, but I cant deny finishing move cooked with this one
Same
I agree with you
But I can love two things and not need to pit it against smt else
i love my tradition of getting hyped for a new doom game just as much as the sountrack itself and fm exceeded my expectations so that tradition continues with the dlc
Oh for sure
I'm most excited abt the dlc ost
Bc it's fm but refined
They have less tracks to compose too
So the quality is spread out evenly
I was a little worried about the soundtrack when the game got announced because we didnt know anything about who's composing it or anything but then they released a couple tracks they used in the trailers right before release and all of that was gone
Thinking abt how awesome the dlc trailer is gonna be
When I break my neck from headbanging
Same, when TDA was releasing I was Eagerly waiting for that Physical OST announcement!
I still cant believe some people say 10 lvls is crazy when thats the same % of the base game as TAG
I'd say 8 is a good sweetspot
Yet they pulled 50% extra levels under covid and time constraints
Anything above 6 or 7
idk it depends how long they want the dlc to be
Plus it took them 4 years to develop 22 levels
Who says they cant do that now

22 levels that are HUGE
Or they can be 10 levels, but they would be like 20 min long
hold on


