the-dark-ages

[frosty pine]

But in general I tend to prefer FMs boss tracks. Maybe it’s because I’m more of a guitar guy than a synth guy when comes to doom but I just think dark age’s boss themes are way more intense

[mystic barn]

There is a distinct lack of guitar in basically every modern DOOM boss theme, pre-TDA. The only examples where there isn’t a synth-based boss theme are Trial of Maligog and Davoth, both of which aren’t Mick’s tracks. It’s like he was allergic to guitar for his boss tracks specifically. Like, we know Mastermind is a remix of BFG Division. Would it have killed him to inject a little bit of that pitch bent F#?

[fleet spruce]

Trial of Maligog still blows me away

[frosty roost]

really wished doom eternal ost was on spotify tbh

[frail bloom]

Correct me if I'm wrong but it was in there during eternal's release and was removed shortly after right

[violet zealot]

𝙳𝚊𝚗𝚐

[violet zealot]

show me a scale of one to 10. What do you think of this artwork?

Fred1032

𝙽𝚟𝚖 𝚒𝚝'𝚜 𝚗𝚘𝚝 𝚠𝚘𝚛𝚔𝚒𝚗𝚐

𝙸'𝚕𝚕 𝚍𝚘 𝚒𝚝 𝚘𝚗 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚊𝚛𝚝 channel

[slender night]

The only official release was in the collector's edition

[neon perch]

Is that the Hell Guards track?

That one's so mid but I like bopping to it.

[frosty pine]

Yeah

[crimson mantle]

I just got dark ages will this be a good game

[slender night]

Yes

[fleet spruce]

absolutely a blast to play

[random sand]

yes

[crimson mantle]

Alr I'm playing the first mission rn and your right

[random sand]

yup. it only gets better from there

[strong moth]

I’m wanting to start messing with a Ripatorium setup to share, but I realized that everyone I hear speak enthusiastically about it plays the game on like 150% speed and whatnot, and I worry that I’ll be unable to play test this and get a good sense of its quality due to my sheer lack of playing the game at that level

[sweet locust]

So that explains why the Dark Ages channel disappeared from the Doom universe category

[obsidian shard]

Nah, i do Standard Nightmare most times

[violet zealot]

𝙵𝚛 𝚒𝚝'𝚜 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚋𝚎𝚜𝚝

[obsidian shard]

Also playing the game at what difficulty level YOU need, is the best way to play!

[violet zealot]

𝙸 𝚠𝚒𝚜𝚑 𝚝𝚑𝚎𝚛𝚎 𝚠𝚊𝚜 𝚞𝚕𝚝𝚛𝚊 𝚗𝚒𝚐𝚑𝚝𝚖𝚊𝚛𝚎 𝚖𝚘𝚍𝚎 𝚏𝚘𝚛 𝚒𝚝

𝙰𝚗𝚍 𝚢𝚘𝚞 𝚌𝚊𝚗 𝚜𝚙𝚊𝚠𝚗 𝟷𝟶 𝚙𝚛𝚒𝚗𝚌𝚎 𝙰𝚣𝚛𝚒𝚔 ( 𝚍𝚘 𝚗𝚘𝚝 𝚔𝚗𝚘𝚠 𝚑𝚘𝚠 𝚝𝚘 𝚜𝚙𝚎𝚕𝚕 𝚒𝚝)

𝙸𝚝 𝚠𝚘𝚞𝚕𝚍 𝚋𝚎 𝚏𝚞𝚗

[strong moth]

Love you guys

[violet zealot]

[harsh egret]

theres still plenty of ppl who dont play at crazy sliders

[solid nacelle]

I don't ever go faster than 120 game speed

[harsh egret]

i play on 110% speed for example

yeah 110-120 is where i think the game is most enjoyable for me, maybe ill switch to 120 in the future but atm i like it like this

[alpine pilot]

where doom

[fleet spruce]

next turn down this street

[spark elm]

Which level introduced the Agaddon?

[mystic barn]

Abyssal Forest

[spark elm]

Ohhh.

Makes sense, Komodo was the last champion then.

Since Komodo came on Nerathul.

[harsh egret]

i cant wait for cacodemon champion in the dlc

[elder raven]

give me an armored cacodemon

and an armored komodo

[harsh egret]

i heard of a few ppl here that like them so much, they would be so excited for that

[solar spoke]

Komodo that shoots purple goo

[harsh egret]

holy shit write that down

[elder raven]

these people must love torturing themselves

in all seriousness i want to see that cosmic mancubus concept art fully fleshed out in the dlc

it looks awesome

[harsh egret]

i would too but if its a released concept art im not so sure they will do that in the dlc

cuz otherwise they wouldnt have released the concept art

[elder raven]

thats true

well in that case

i wanna see the d64 pain elemental

[fleet spruce]

the true horror

[harsh egret]

but they prob have another million trillion ideas so im not worried

[slender night]

I want more DOOM 3 enemies. I'd love a DOOM 3 Imp as a skin for the Stalker Imp

Imp Stalker, whatever

[elder raven]

i love how the vagary was in tda in any case

[harsh egret]

i love that theyve been sticking with the doom 3 hellknight

[elder raven]

that gives me hope we’ll see more of doom 3’s demons

[slender night]

Does the one in TDA have eyes? I didn't like that they gave it eyes in Eternal

[elder raven]

it does

[slender night]

Oh well, me asking this means it's not as noticeable anyway

[elder raven]

eyes arent really much of a problem for me i really like how they look in every game

https://doom.fandom.com/wiki/Mancubus/Doom_3

these could fit.. maybe?

[harsh egret]

wait the doom 3 guardian of hell kinda reminds me of the pinky in tda

[slender night]

I don't really see anyone mentioning what they'd like to hear in the DLC, but I'd personally love a remix of Sadistic from TNT

[elder raven]

music wise?

[slender night]

Well yeah you can't have a remix of a song as a sound effect

[elder raven]

give me a semi-remake of the doom 3 theme

[fleet spruce]

would be really funny if they place some areas from 3 in hell levels

[slender night]

And make the riff last longer than 3 seconds this time

[elder raven]

what i really would like to see is past locations that we went to in hell in the classic games

[elder raven]

this and finishing move’s tone ❤️

[slender night]

I also hope they do more action music with violins in it. Can't put my finger on why but that shit makes songs 10x as raw

[elder raven]

i see a lot of people wanting to revisit e1m1 and those levels but some levels in hell in the classic games are really expansive and could fit, maybe ruins of places we absolutely ransacked either in those games/places that the slayer went to after 64 when he was in hell

[elder raven]

i love it when they do things like the end of divine retribution

[fleet spruce]

personally I want to see more Doom 64 style hell

[warm ibex]

You joke, but... https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892238793174818848/1442221821054419104/alejandro-mirabal-alejandro-mirabal-cacodemo-1.png?ex=6924a53d&is=692353bd&hm=8d625fd9c9d01f676215638f5d496750cb7244157918072a55f0c17965d99cf4

[slender night]

The intro to Infernal Chasm with the more orchestral style is awesome. Horde knows

[harsh egret]

thank fk they cancelled that

[elder raven]

its time to put it in the game + add screechers

[slender night]

Hey look, it's me

[elder raven]

if they add the archvile i want him to have some very cool parryable moves that arent just his basic fireballs

and for the p.e., having the ability to parry back the lost souls he shoots at us would be so awesome

[warm ibex]

he resurrects dead demons, but you can parry them back into the ground

[harsh egret]

whack-a-mole

[elder raven]

not a bad idea actually

but you would have to cover the entire arena looking for them though

[slender night]

Maybe have the Arch-vile have these green leash-like objects shoot out of its body towards the resurrecting corpses?

It'd help show where the corpses are

[warm ibex]

with how much gore lingers on the battlefield, resurrecting dead demons instead of summoning them is actually feasible

[elder raven]

biggest worry is him having that fuckass flame that covers your screen in doom 2

[warm ibex]

everything in TDA is super aggressive and moves towards you, so I'm not sure if finding them would be much of a problem (since they'd likely find you first)

[slender night]

I'd actually love that

[elder raven]

true + it could work as a ‘time challenge’ to where the demons you didnt get come back to fuck you up, buffed slightly by the archvile

[hard thistle]

I like to think the Forbidden Plains in TDA is a region of Inferno from Doom 1.

[obsidian shard]

Doom 64 Pain Elemental 🙏🙏

It would fit TDA so well imo

[elder raven]

im looking at the map + some levels and this could be plausible

[elder raven]

100% and again i really wanna parry back lost souls

[green estuary]

honestly depends on the demon
in eternal pretty much everything moves in your general direction at all times, although some enemies are more (barons) or less (cyber mancs, archviles) aggressive
in TDA you've got demons that literally just move around with no attention paid to the player, but you also have stuff that will chase you across time and space just to beat your ass

[warm ibex]

with a unique attack instead of just having generic parryable lost souls 🙏🙏🙏

[hard thistle]

The presence of Hell buildings and a huge citadel as the Abyssal Keep IMO implies this.

[elder raven]

it would be badass though

[obsidian shard]

2 sides of the same coin lmao

[warm ibex]

meh, very predictable

the safest and most obvious choice

[elder raven]

maybe ahzrak’s fortress is built upon that region?

[hard thistle]

I like to think the Abyssal Keep is E3M5 or E3M7.

[elder raven]

here: give him a shield like the one he has from battlemode

[warm ibex]

I had an idea for a TDA pain elemental moveset that I shared with Raguel (a really underrated doomtuber that you should all check out)

From my comment on his community post: "I feel like giving the Pain Elemental parryable Lost Soul projectiles would be a bit too predictable, so maybe something a little more unique. If they go with the dual mouth design from Doom 64 then perhaps it could become a two phase enemy that splits into separate parts after taking a certain amount of damage. The two parts would move/attack at a faster rate to compensate for the lower health and locking one of them down with the Shield Saw would empower the other, forcing players to change how they approach the second phase depending on their situation."

[hard thistle]

What I'd like is if it shot parryable modern Lost Souls from its left mouth and then fired the bigger modern ones you have to shoot from its right mouth or something like that.

[harsh egret]

oo i like that

[hard thistle]

Bonus points if it makes Lost Souls orbit it or something.

[elder raven]

im subscribed to this guy, i really like this idea actually

[warm ibex]

sometimes I cook

[elder raven]

been thinking about making doom videos myself

one in particular is a lore video for the cacodemon or cyberdemon

[warm ibex]

I somewhat like the idea of it spawning a large lost soul that then spawns smaller lost souls. like a russian nesting doll

although I do like the idea of the separate halves serving a diffrent purpose. That's good

[hard thistle]

Oh man that'd be cool.

[warm ibex]

please do, we need more doomtubers

everyone left after eternal

[elder raven]

maybe ill work on one of those scripts

and test to see if my mic is adequate

[fleet spruce]

clearly they were eternal fans

[hard thistle]

If I were built for videos I'd make lore videos all day.

[elder raven]

https://doom.fandom.com/wiki/Nightmare im not saying it’d be one of the greatest ideas ever, but to give the pain elemental’s lost souls some flair from other lost souls… bring back these guys?

[warm ibex]

I'd watch every one of them

[elder raven]

im going to be working on a script later tonight and just seeing how it goes

[harsh egret]

this lost soul was posted on artstation a couple weeks ago but isnt it like.. not in the game? so maybe this?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/491020118780805140/1442226336977387783/adam-beardall-dtda-giantlostsoul-1.jpg?ex=6924a972&is=692357f2&hm=66d6eac8afa1eea53f9d1f4511e133b4db585c7903ecf154f26f49054c7dbabb&

[elder raven]

i just hope he’s in the game lmao

[hard thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/aw-shucks-gif-21150051

[elder raven]

my foods here so im gonna eat that, and then either do some ripatorium, finish my challenge run, or work on that script

[warm ibex]

This is in the files as a large lost soul. While it could of course be reused, I feel as if this was replaced by the normal lost soul, which is large by defualt

[slender night]

I like Raitro's 2016 content but he doesn't make it much anymore and I love Decino's analysis content but dude's a father and barely has time for that now :p

So yeah, we do

[warm ibex]

and the army of rising doomtubers that Eternal spawned dipped after the game went quiet

[elder raven]

well if im very motivated (i kinda am) im thinking about joining this community fully

[warm ibex]

go for it!

send your channel and I'll sub

[elder raven]

alright one second

[harsh egret]

i just feel like its so random to post a cancelled demon without saying anyting about it being a cut demon or a concept, he was just posted alongside other demons that are in the game

[warm ibex]

I don't think that's entirely unusual. It seems to have made it pretty far into development and was used at some point

[harsh egret]

and also he looks sick asf and i want him in the game

[hard thistle]

I wish he could post analysis of like. Modern Doom AI and stuff.

[slender night]

He did do one video like that for TAG's Spirit

I'd personally like something like that for Wolf3D

[warm ibex]

I wish wolfenstein was more casually popular

been six years since youngblood and eight since TNC

[elder raven]

the show 🔜

[warm ibex]

that won't get going for a while

but should definitely raise the popularity a bit when it does eventually come

[slender night]

All of the Wolfensteins are awesome and it sucks that the only popularity nowadays is from people playing JUST TNC for the platinum flex

[green estuary]

The amount of people who sleep on TNO and TOB is just heartbreaking

Especially the old blood

[slender night]

TOB has god tier gameplay but I don't like what it did to the story. Same for TNC but to a lesser extent

Wolf2 and TNO are the best ones imo

[cerulean pagoda]

hi

[green estuary]

I thought the whole supernatural twist was awesome tbh

[slender night]

I'm not a big fan because of the grounded tone the modern games go for

[green estuary]

Hello funny ultrakill man

[green estuary]

It reminded me of rtcw in a good way

[fervent maple]

I think the only thing I truly dislike without any caveats in the new wolf games is the multiverse stuff from YB

Nazis in space and occult stuff, sure, but I don't think multiverse shenanigans fit as a driving force

[green estuary]

I don’t really pay any attention to YB honestly

[fervent maple]

I'm fine with an alternate dimension a la Wolf 2009, but a multiverse plot has to be in a story tailor made for it

[fervent maple]

I'm saying this as someone who genuinely liked it: it is only fun with a friend

[green estuary]

So I’ve heard

[fervent maple]

It feels like a game from that weird post-RE5 era where they shoehorned co-op into everything, like F3AR and Dead Space 3

Same franchise killing power and everything

[slender night]

I think they (the new games) all do questionable things to the story, aside from TNO

[green estuary]

I’d agree

New order was just solid all around

[fervent maple]

I concur, but I find that at least they struggle mostly in relation to each other rather than on their own. TOB is extremely fun and campy while TNC is more like a grindhouse film. TNO is the only one that feels tonally consistent throughout.

They can all be enjoyed in vacuums with an open mind, with the sole exception of YB, imo.

[slender night]

I think it's really silly TNO ends with this tragic and emotional chapter where Blazkowicz comes to terms with his sudden death and sacrifices himself for the good of victims of the Nazis and the love of his life... just to revive him in TNC, and kill + revive him in that game again. I think if he does actually genuinely die in a future game I won't be sad because I'll just think it's gonna be another fakeout

[green estuary]

the whole he gets his head cut off but somehow survives bit is just so stupid

[fervent maple]

I get you. I'm at least happy TNO is a self-contained story; you can mostly ignore everything that comes after if you want. I'm a big fan of endings like that.

[green estuary]

I legitimately thought for a minute that they were going to do something ambitious like have one of the crew take up BJ’s role or something but nah

[slender night]

You can also ignore anything before! It makes some efforts to tie RtCW and Wolf2 (and then TNC tries Wolf3D) into the canon but it's such a loose tie-in that you can completely disregard these games and just assume some of their events happened in one way or another within this timeline

-# We should probably move to #general

[fervent maple]

Probably lol

[warm ibex]

I agree that the general concept is meh but I like what it does for his story. Cements him as not just a hero of the people but a literal legend. He was publicly beheaded and came back stronger

[slender night]

Idk it just felt like what they did to the Slayer in Eternal to me

The concept of the whole fact that to Irene he became death incarnate is AWESOME but in the end it's just glazing a character that's already stupid strong

[warm ibex]

I think it arguably works better for BJ than the Slayer

[green estuary]

Hell nah

Doomguy has already been to hell and back in the OG games anyway

[warm ibex]

what?

specifically talking about the "glazing this character as a legend" part

[flat elm]

I need Atlan Ripatorium Mode in next update

[green estuary]

Oh I though you just meant the whole dying and coming back to life thing

[warm ibex]

oh lol nah, Doom 10000% does that better than wolfenstein

but when it comes to glazing the characters as legends, I think modern Wolfenstein does that better than Eternal's ARC logs

[fervent maple]

Unrelated, but Horde, have you thought of doing more reviews/analysis videos, like your 2016 one a while back?

[green estuary]

Yeah for sure

[fervent maple]

I'd like to hear some of these sorts of discussions in video format

[green estuary]

The Dr Elena Richardson audios were so unbearably cringe

[slender night]

How come DOOM 1, the game designed to not be a power fantasy, constantly gets called a hyper power fantasy about this all powerful being, while RAGE 2, created to be a power fantasy, gets no talk at all

[warm ibex]

I had originally planned on switching to that format entirely before Year Zero was leaked and Doom news in general started to pick up enough for me to go back to it. If I make consistent content after they end support for TDA then I'll absolutely make more videos like my 2016 re-review

[uneven dragon]

i was gonna start when tda dropped but then the audio on one of my recordings bugged and icbf to fix sooo 😭

[warm ibex]

fair enough, I hate audio issues 😭

[fervent maple]

I'd really love that

[uneven dragon]

also i got a jbl quantum 360x to replace my jbl 350 headset and inexplicably the mic is like 50000x worse despite otherwise being an identical model of headset

and i dont reaaaally have the funds to buy a good mic rn

[uneven dragon]

i'd like anything from rpgs brought back

give doom guy attack dogs again

[slender night]

give doom guy attack dogs

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

Is that something they actually do in the RPGs

Fire writing gif because that sounded insanely comical but I'm just now starting to realise you might not be joking

[violet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/pig-slap-toy-stretch-toy-abuse-gif-8522373636109174808

𝙿𝙾𝚅 what 𝚝𝚑𝚎doom slayer 𝚍𝚒𝚍 to 𝙰𝚉𝚊𝚛𝚒𝚔(do not know how to spell his 𝚗𝚊𝚖𝚎) 𝚒𝚗 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚎𝚗𝚍 𝚘𝚏 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚐𝚊𝚖𝚎

[uneven dragon]

yes lol

[slender night]

Insanity

[uneven dragon]

there are Hellhound enemies (edited wolfenstein 3d dogs) and a uac scientist (and secret ally to the demons) Mr Nadira makes a special dog collar which can control them

[slender night]

Wtf Hellhounds are real

[uneven dragon]

and then Doomguy can steal his dog collar and if he encounters a hellhound he can use the dog collar to instead use the hellhound as a melee weapon lol

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/642730879852085281/1442238022602068172/Hellhound.webp?ex=6924b454&is=692362d4&hm=98be56fc7b58d50c14aa87fd50bf1a90c728aabab7464c9dd302f065e28ecedb&

[slender night]

That's a fucked up looking dog

[uneven dragon]

i like to think the marauder's wolves are a reference cause they're called hellhounds in the files and have similar blood on the eyes and mouth

but it's definitely a coincidence lol

[slender night]

Sure

[crimson mantle]

[solar spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-eternal-glory-kill-doom-glory-kill-doom-eternal-zombie-gif-18694440

more like this POV lol

[magic spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doomguy-doom-the-dark-ages-true-gif-9488978076129629800

[warm ibex]

added to my collection of true gifs

[slender night]

True... might be one of the most perplexing yet loveable memes ever

It's just so surreal

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/balatro-true-morgan-freeman-morgan-freeman-true-balatro-true-gif-3209347132886976225

[magic spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/donkey-kong-donkey-kong-bananza-nintendo-switch-2-true-gif-119819844129911991

[spark elm]

Did anyone ever get lucky with glory killing a cacodemon?

[dusk nest]

HELL YEAHHH BALATRO

Now cloverpit

[spark elm]

The one enemy where it’s just 100% impossible to get a glory kill on.

I’ve been able to get a head stomp glory kill on a pinky.

[proud grove]

Did they update resource values since release? I haven't played since

I remember putting it on minimum and it was perfect

[slender night]

I almost always do

[spark elm]

Never been able to.

[solid nacelle]

You can do it on the one by the gore nest at the end of city of ryuul if you just run past it and get on the upper platform

[spark elm]

Interesting.

[solid nacelle]

You'll have enough elevation to do it

[spark elm]

And glory kills on regular vagaries would be interesting.

[frail bloom]

Banshees from legacy of rust

Whaddya think?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/832527939153297448/1442247277123993820/2025061421144803.png?ex=6924bcf2&is=69236b72&hm=ba393a1e748ca56177c2d9da795e11f845d94f0b29b618030dda86358f84c7b3&

[obsidian shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1400344876326850584/1442232754497654904/Screenshot_20251121-044613.YouTube2.png?ex=6924af6c&is=69235dec&hm=283b12a131204c1a0b0eb4d4d223b0428ec8efce8754feabd3cc47975c6815a2&

[solar spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-unpog-gif-8033619785015707160

[elder raven]

working out the kinks for my mic rn

i wanna make it sound youtuber-like

clean and stuff like that

ive just been reading the eternal cacodemon entry and listening to it each time after im done

[warm ibex]

yeah I got one naturally

[obsidian shard]

The Vagary ones are pretty cool too

[warm ibex]

the vagary decapitation is my favorite

[green estuary]

I've never actually gotten a glory kill on a regular vagary or komodo
I was all about sprint-jumping to get the glory kills on my first playthrough but now I just get annoyed when they trigger because it allows the demons to regroup

[magic spoke]

im so close at beating the first resurrection arena on ultra hard settings

like i want to have every disadvantage possible

[green estuary]

what sliders are you working with

I ask because this game has a million ways you can make it stupidly hard

[magic spoke]

for the difficulty settings themselves:
nightmare
min parry window
enhanced and empowered off
atlan min
BoD hard
500% damage
50% damage done to demons
max aggression
max speed
min daze
max projectile speed
min resource values

[green estuary]

oh so basically max sliders

[magic spoke]

but ive also have
hud off
motion blur max
90 FOV
daze highlights off

[green estuary]

without the stupid gameplay speed increase

[magic spoke]

parry and melee slow mo off

[green estuary]

the game's just better with no or minimal slow mo

[magic spoke]

shield throw seek off (idk if that does anything)

[green estuary]

though I'd recommend increasing your FOV a bit

[magic spoke]

agreed

[magic spoke]

i want every disadvantage

[green estuary]

bruh
this isn't even a gameplay modifier, it's just QOL

arena shooters become much more enjoyable with a bit higher FOV so you can actually be more aware of your surroundings

[magic spoke]

yeah thats the idea is that i dont have that ability

[green estuary]

well in that case go knock yourself out

[magic spoke]

ive been knocking myself out several times over this game is unforgiving but addicting

im loving these settings because i can appreciate the tactical aspect of the game

and it really forces you to use the environment too

[magic spoke]

oh and i have parryable attacks set to the same color as non parryable

or in other words set to red. doesnt exactly work with all demons like the revs for example but it works well for imps manc and whips sometimes

[green estuary]

tda got a nomination for accessibility in games at TGA and here you are making it as inaccessible as possible lmao

[magic spoke]

LOL

it takes place in hell might as well make it play like it

[solid nacelle]

You can set world saturation to 10% which will allow you to change the color of all non parryables

[magic spoke]

awesome but will that ruin the visuals overall

like make the environment look bad

[frosty roost]

i'm glad TDA got nominated for action and accessibility, it's so good honestly

why tda is my favourite game

[frail bloom]

Erm well you should put brink of death at hardest then

[magic spoke]

hardest?

[frail bloom]

Yes you can change the brink of death settings now

[solid nacelle]

Not really it looks fine for me. Maybe tweak some hdr settings if you really feel like it but I don't have any problems

[magic spoke]

yes i have it set to hard

[magic spoke]

got it thanks man 👍

[frail bloom]

Do you play on new save or just an old save

[green estuary]

it's resurrection, so I doubt it really matters

you're only down 10 health and 10 armor if you play it from a fresh save

[frail bloom]

Eh alr

[magic spoke]

old save

i do it to practice

i find that it helps a ton

[frail bloom]

There's other ways to practice

That's fun

[green estuary]

practice for what?

[frosty roost]

heya samir!

[green estuary]

max sliders doesn't do anything but practice your pain tolerance

[frail bloom]

Hello

[frail bloom]

True dat

[magic spoke]

and im only playing with one hand

[frail bloom]

Hm

[green estuary]

🧢

[frail bloom]

Why one hand

[magic spoke]

i lost my other one

i have a hook hand now

[frail bloom]

Ah

[magic spoke]

yes i got it from my pirate days

[frail bloom]

Uh huh

[craggy ice]

You guys mind if I ask what's going on in here?

[frail bloom]

Chatting

[wheat sigil]

if it were me i'd do it blindfolded and just memorise what i need to do, but respect for one hand 💪 😎

[magic spoke]

thanks man

[cerulean pagoda]

hi

[fervent maple]

👋

[ionic glade]

Ultra Nightmare is finished

[green estuary]

let's gooooo

congrats man

[ionic glade]

Thank you! Probably the most locked in I’ve ever been for the Ahzrak boss fights. Took no damage on the first two phases of Enhanced Ahzrak and then no damage on the second phase of the final boss after taking out the witch.

[violet zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/coffin-dance-doom-demons-gif-19053427

[green estuary]

sick
I actually nearly choked on the final boss fight lol

well, not nearly--I did choke, but thankfully I didn't die

[ionic glade]

That’s completely understandable. For some reason, I typically do worse on smaller encounters in tight areas. Sentinel Command Station was the level that had my number due to all the tight corridor fights and explosive barrels everywhere. Two deaths there. 3 total attempts overall. Once I made it past there, it was fairly smooth sailing.

Now that the pressure is off from the first completion, I’ll probably do some UN runs for fun now

[karmic pendant]

SAME, it's the stalkers that mess with me really, like i'd do better if there was just one mancubus or two hell knights,

[ionic glade]

They were really the only enemy I made sure I had their spawns memorized. Cannot let those invisible assholes live long enough to make any kind of difference in a fight. Them along with chaingunners, arachnotrons, revs, and acolytes were enemies I made sure to kill the moment they showed up

[green estuary]

Well I just saw a YT video where someone beat the belly of the beast secret encounter on max sliders, so I was obviously expecting some really high level gameplay
But in reality, the guy missed most of his parries and used 4 bfc shots to clear the room

No shade towards the guy, but that was very disappointing

[frail bloom]

Wow I beat the final arena

[green estuary]

Max sliders?
Let’s goooo

[frail bloom]

I might finish my run now

[green estuary]

No bfc too, right

[ionic glade]

Trying to fight enemies with the morale buff with only 50% damage to demons is agony

[frail bloom]

I used it but I miffed the shot like an idiot

[green estuary]

I know

[frail bloom]

My target was a cyberdemon

And I miffed it

[green estuary]

It’s just that the guy made so many bad gameplay mistakes in the process

kudos to him for clearing it at least

It’s not even that the guy did anything wrong in posting the video or anything, I just came into the video with artificially raised expectations

[karmic pendant]

ACOLYTES

hate those guys, insignificant wannabe archviles

[red peak]

I just realised that Blood Red and Blood Spill are two different songs 😭

[mystic barn]

Bro

[red peak]

Whatt? Lol I kept getting them mixed up

[mystic barn]

Like yeah, it doesn't help that they have very similar titles (I'm partial to referring to Blood Spill as Ravenous Hatred)

[red peak]

Wait do they buff other demons? I never noticed lol I just use brute force 90% of the time

[green estuary]

no they don't

[red peak]

Do they revive them?

[green estuary]

nah, they just teleport around and overall just act like assholes

[red peak]

Oh ok

Yeah theyre pretty annoying, I find them pretty easy to kill tho with the ssg- clones die with a simple shield bash and ssg, then just do that a few more times for the accolyte and it'll stagger

[strong moth]

I really enjoy Acolytes. Much more than Eternal’s Archviles. They’re not as big a priority shift or as unique mechanically, but they also don’t piss me the hell off

[harsh egret]

i think it might be only u and me

but ye i like putting them in the ripatorium, they keep u on the move

[strong moth]

I’m working for the first time on an “actual Ripatorium attempt” and I’m making Acolyte’s central to the “theme” and building each encounter wave around navigating pressure units while Acolytes make the battlefield dangerous

[green estuary]

I don't mind them
but more than one at a time is frankly overkill

[harsh egret]

heh...

[green estuary]

unless you're in a ripatorium-sized arena

like for example the multiple acolytes in the belly of the beast secret encounter are just nonsense

[strong moth]

Well it’s possible that every level of my setup has multiple acolytes

[azure turret]

Ok hemmy

[gleaming radish]

🛡️⛓️🪚

[spark elm]

In my second playthrough of this game on Nightmare (M*), I 100%’d Sentinel Barracks (chapter 4) in a single go!

Also did a clean defeat of the Vagary Champion.

[karmic pendant]

and you can stun it with the shield saw and kill it easily

[red peak]

Oh yeahh, I forgot you could stun it lol

[karmic pendant]

Ive seen accelerator works best on the vagary champion

[green estuary]

I lowk feel like there needs to be a tip in TDA that says something along the lines of "the accelerator has the highest dps of any weapon in the game, don't sleep on it", because it's really easy to just ignore it because of how low-damage the plasma rifles from the previous two games were

you just have two weak-ass plasma rifles in 2016 and eternal, and then in tda the tiny little plasma gun just melts through literally everything lol

[fallow hearth]

if anyone wants the doom slayer onyx skin for nvdia i have a code im not gonna use just lmk

[fleet spruce]

I was playing the other day and was shredding the Enhanced Ahzrak with it, heavies also fall very fast

[spark elm]

Definitely didn’t go for the Nvidia thingy.

[spark elm]

I’d say the Vagary is the easiest of the 3 champions.

[random sand]

the thing about him is he has an insane amount of health. the fucker just won't die

[spark elm]

Super heavy demon.

[random sand]

the other super heavy demons do not have the same health he does

i can beat an agaddon hunter in maybe 10 seconds. vagary might take up to 40

[flat elm]

The Gaint Cacodemon has the eyes after all!
https://x.com/ShrimPort/status/1992386132483695065

CamaronPuerto (@ShrimPort)

(4/9) Models ready for the cosmic pack.
The Caco Demons join the list of ready models;
I never realized the small caco had a mouth under his tentacles.

Fun fact, the giant cacodemon has eyes under his skin armor (or so I think it is).

X · Nov 23, 2025, 12:14 AM

[uneven dragon]

cool

[echo sail]

Hardest tbh,you're basically cooked if he spits acid on you

[hard thistle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1423428799592399080/1442510849989283841/image.png?ex=6925b26b&is=692460eb&hm=036c6624516c7d5cd7f5feb47ff69efa924bb5cc6f79a224d0f4a2fc9475e2f5&
Sigh. Back to the grind.

[warm ibex]

back to the grind? the grind never stopped

just wait until the DLC recontextualizes a previously established event and it's back to editing

[hard thistle]

It totally will. Like, the Praetor Suit thing will happen and it'll be hype on-screen but then I'll have to reinterpret the timeline and it'll be like Oh

This sort of thing actually kind of scares me - I'm worried they're just gonna totally forget about Doomguy spending eons in Hell post-Sentinel lore and just shove all the Testament stuff before the Civil War so they can show cool shit.

There are certain aspects of the timeline I'm pretty attached to that I don't want changed.

[wintry forge]

The Praetor suit coming this early on will definitely change the assumed order of events of the Slayer’s time in Hell, but it’ll be badass nonetheless

[wintry forge]

But I do agree, I’d prefer them wait and not change that idea

[hard thistle]

TDA's ending alone already shows us the Testaments happened differently than we thought anyway.

[warm ibex]

I honestly don't think they'll show the full praetor suit. and maybe won't show the praetor suit at all

[mystic barn]

They'll do the Marvel thing and just show the blueprints

[warm ibex]

I actually wouldn't be surprised lol

[hard thistle]

It was the general understanding that the Slayer's rampage begins after the fall of Argent D'Nur. Now we have to move forward with the understanding it began during the Unholy Wars, and since Eternal tells us the Slayer still palled around with the Sentinels for years after, that the Slayer just kind of hops between doing his thing in Hell VS going to Argent D'Nur to help out the Sentinels, and he just kinda does this until Argent D'Nur falls.

[wintry forge]

I think showing/ using the full Praetor suit would kinda disrespect TDA’s armor. It’s unique to this game specifically, and the Praetor suit probably wouldn’t fit in with the whole medieval idea

[hard thistle]

I personally would rather we keep the Praetor Suit's obtaining off-screen, but Hugo seems to be implying it.

My issue is with "the wretch." People have much cooler ideas for who the wretch is than what they'll end up showing, IMO. I think a lot of people are attached to the notion that a demon rebelled against Hell and helped the Slayer, and I'm not sure how keen Hugo is to show that.

[wintry forge]

His main rampage is definitely after the Betrayal/ Fall of Argent, but we don’t know to what extent the “dark lords who had wronged him” are. That may be referring to the hell priests who betrayed him, but we have no idea

[hard thistle]

I always took this to just mean Hell's leaders as a whole, who invaded his Earth and then fucked over Argent D'Nur, rather than a specific group.

[wintry forge]

I did as well, but we just don’t know for certain. Hopefully it’ll still work in the context we hope

[twilit stone]

i think he's explicitly stated on a TDA stream that the Wretch is a Sentinel

[uneven dragon]

They’re afraid to show shit from 2016 in case it locks off future games I doubt it

[uneven dragon]

Dude that is fucking dumbbb if so

[hard thistle]

I say this because, like I mentioned before, I argued with someone on Reddit who believed the Slayer gets put in the sarcophagus directly after the Betrayal and thus TDA happens in the Third Age. I really hate that idea and I contend it doesn't make sense, but an argument like that still bothers me because it feels like something they'd do if they decided to do crack.

[wintry forge]

I’d like it to stay a demon. “In his heresy, was loyal to his evil cause” implies he was both male and demon. People want it to be Thira but it doesn’t work because of those reasons

[hard thistle]

I've always believed it to be Valen, but not because I liked that. I just thought it made sense. Realistically it being a demon would be the coolest.

[twilit stone]

ikr lmao, Belias being the Wretch would be so much better

[hard thistle]

I would prefer it to be a demon because honestly I want them to explore demon "morality," a subject I know they won't because literally nobody cares.

[wintry forge]

Im hoping Belias/ new character

[hard thistle]

We know demons aren't just a hivemind and they can and have rebelled against each other, but I'm very interested in the prospect of seeing a "good demon," and how the Slayer would react to this.

[uneven dragon]

You should read the doom novels

[wintry forge]

I think Belias would work. Slayer challenges the High Council, and Belias was always denied Archdemonhood. He has nowhere to turn, maybe something inclined him to assist the slayer following the destruction of the High Council

[twilit stone]

i'd be so fascinated by that. Before TDA I used to think the Wretch was just an Imp or smth, I think that'd be cute and kinda sad honestly

[uneven dragon]

I remember the chill asf Imps from the 3rd doom novel or whatever

[warm ibex]

imo the biggest piece of evidence against getting the actual full praetor suit from 2016 (or acquiring any new armor in general) is that they seem to want to make more medieval doom games and there's absolute zero chance they reuse armor across games. Unless the Slayer gets the suit and then stores it away for safe keeping until later

[warm ibex]

I think Belias being the wretch would be just as disappointing as a Sentinel being the wretch

if not more disappointing

[uneven dragon]

Belias would be more interesting than a Sentinel be real

[wintry forge]

Exactly. And It wouldn’t fit with the medieval aspect at all, it would lessen our time with THIS game’s unique armor, all of that

[mystic barn]

I’m on the “Kreed’s assistant is the Wretch” train

[twilit stone]

it's either the praetor suit or the classic armor, one of the two. I'm banking on the praetor suit tho because of the whole "the story will move forward" thing

[uneven dragon]

I don’t think he had enough lines for that 😭

[warm ibex]

agree to disagree. I don't find anything interesting about his character and find him to be a rather bland and unearned wretch candidate

[uneven dragon]

yea but it being a sentinel would make the world smaller and make 2016’s codex more butchered than it already is :p

[twilit stone]

i'd be fine with this purely cuz he has a cool design and voice

[wintry forge]

Honestly, the “Armor” thing may be something else entirely. Obviously Hugo pointed towards something connecting the games, but “armor” may be unrelated

[dapper palm]

Maybe Hugo meant an upgrade for the medieval armor?

[warm ibex]

that's a possibility

[wintry forge]

That’s what I’m hoping

[twilit stone]

imagine it's just a skin lol

[mystic barn]

If we're just following the design language of his character, his broken halo could suggest he's not on board with the future regime instilled by the Khan Maykr, therefore not loyal to Hell's cause. It would validate the more futuristic aspects of the 2016 Praetor suit

[wintry forge]

Maybe there’s another equipment item that requires the Slayer to get upgraded armor in a cutscene or something

Nothing crazy, just slightly altered

[warm ibex]

something I don't think a lot of people are considering: maybe the "ARMOR" teaser isn't referring to a new suit or suit upgrade. he was simply using that word to tease the Wretch's first appearance, as "ARMOR" is practically the only thing we know about the wretch and is one of the only ways he could tease the character without flat out saying who it is

[wintry forge]

Fair point. That could possibly imply the Wretch is someone new that we’ve never met

[hard thistle]

Here's how I would write it, and maybe it's a bit fanwank:
We see hints of Belias watching as the Order of the Six falls, and we see he's been watching the Slayer's rampage. We also see him confer with other Hell Priests, and we hear hints of the Archdemons looking down on on Belias, who has abandoned his post to pointlessly track down remnants of Jekkad before it was corrupted. Belias himself used to advise the Dark Lord Davoth.

After a while, our plot twist: Belias has decided the current leadership of Hell is warped and incompetent. Yearning to see Hell's rule prosper again under the leadership of its true ruler, Belias knows Davoth can't come back but thinks the next best thing is the Slayer. The Slayer himself, who is inexorably linked with Hell and contains a piece of Davoth within him, is the true savior of Hell! Through his conflict with Hell, he gives the Dark Realm purpose, and if the Slayer is defeated, Hell will fall into stagnancy.

Belias gifts the Slayer, his armor taken and at a low point, a new suit, and tells him: "You will bring violence and war to the Dark Realm. Conflict was born in Hell... a fire that fuels creation and gives purpose where there is none. Continue that conflict, and show us our purpose."
Then he accepts death and lets the Slayer kill him or something.

That's how I'd do it personally, mind the lame fanfic haha.

[uneven dragon]

ok but the wretch is gonna be the druj from doom rpg so..

[warm ibex]

correction: the wretch will be the blue cacodemon from doom rpg

[mystic barn]

Malwrath?

[warm ibex]

or perhaps the green revenant

[wintry forge]

Bruh wth 😂

[uneven dragon]

I believe one means the Wretched

[uneven dragon]

Ain’t that the yellow fellow?

[mystic barn]

Ah you might be right there

[uneven dragon]

Kronos should be the villain of the next doom reboot

He looks pretty cool

[wintry forge]

Still think they need to rerelease those games. Especially the second one

Heck of a missed opportunity

[twilit stone]

nightdive will do it eventually, bet

[uneven dragon]

At least the fan ports are decent

Still waiting on a good resurrection port

[elder raven]

i love that guy

[elder raven]

how can we hire you as a writer?

[hard thistle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1423428799592399080/1442525542707494952/image.png?ex=6925c01a&is=69246e9a&hm=79f0a4a3812e9e99f76da8cd7efc12e585b5618c9e501537a8734c69cbf77dc6&
I need to remake this graph too, turn it into something decent. Fuck.

[elder raven]

for the next gane

[hard thistle]

Haha I appreciate it.

I don't really think I'd do great though lol. I wrote a game concept for a spiritual successor to Doom 3 but I think I'd just write what I'd want to see and not what would be good.

[hard thistle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1423428799592399080/1442539889240571914/image.png?ex=6925cd76&is=69247bf6&hm=195428299f96faf9608e282f4f8672864f0a4c3760d56aecd6c7c025ca91a2df&
Hell yes.

[hollow vessel]

When i buy a PlayStation 5, Dark Ages will be the first game i buy.

[fleet spruce]

go for it

[small dew]

yo chads

is there an ultimate guide on becoming unkillable in ultra nightmare

I cant I have been doing nightmare runs since existance but still die in the stupidist way possible

[flat elm]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1400704755361120350/1442550788135325717/colin-geller-cg-dtda-prop-kreed-table.jpg?ex=6925d79d&is=6924861d&hm=d16cac7f78d583414c4603257cc97d069977e04aa17c054e121374c3fda6bc1e&

This table so huge

[dark dock]

I have the Bloody Sandbox Milestone but I don't have the Perfection skin. I've had this issue since Ripatorium 1.0. Would anybody be able to help, please?

[green estuary]

You can try submitting a ticket to Bethesda

But otherwise there’s not much else to be done
Sometimes the skins just don’t show up for whatever reason

[solid nacelle]

So glad these games are seemingly still operating on spaghetti code

[fleet spruce]

Damn kreed was a sin of gluttony all along

[green estuary]

similar to eternal, the game has too many variables to truly become unkillable, even on default nightmare which is actually quite forgiving
but there are a few things you can do if you want to reduce your deaths

• don't habitually hold down block, as it is usually preferable to eat some chip damage than it is to risk getting your shield broken
• if there's a projectile or attack incoming and it looks like you won't be able to dodge/block it, turn 180 degrees, because you take reduced damage from the back (because of your cape or something I guess)
• don't charge headlong into the middle of an arena--work your way from the outside in
• learn what stuff falters enemies (that yellow circle around their heads) and only melee within falter windows instead of starting to melee whenever
• be acutely aware of explosive barrels--you don't get immunity to them in this game, and they also deal a fuck ton of damage, so be extremely careful especially in enclosed spaces
• shield throw constantly--not only does it clear out fodder, which are extremely threatening in this game, but it also charges your empowered shield bash and empowered shots if you're using the impaler
• shield bash combos--shield bash (especially empowered shield bash) into ssg, impaler, or charged chainshot can insta-stagger every heavy enemy in the game besides cacos, mancs, and pinkies
• and obviously--it's a doom game, so just because you're encouraged to go toe-to-toe with enemies rather than keeping your distance, that does not mean you get to stand still

[night sage]

Hey new to the DOOM discord. Is this the right place to post small glitches and stuff? If not does anybody know where I can? I've been running into a small glitch where levels will tell me I've collected all the gold when I know I haven't so the level will say 182/182 but I'll be looking directly at uncollected gold on the map. I know it's small but it's a glitch that kind of bothers me

[green estuary]

it's a known bug

I believe id are already looking into it

[supple oracle]

They are aware

[green estuary]

I figured

[supple oracle]

same for the ripatorium demon despawn bug

any bugs been encounter, post it here and ping me

[frosty roost]

@supple oracle any specific channels i can send you a bug i found? i cant send a picture here

[supple oracle]

put in screenshots channel, and ping me on it

[frosty roost]

sent

[supple oracle]

LOL, I see it, did you use any mods in any chance ??

[frosty roost]

nope, just happened when i loaded up the game

[supple oracle]

It funny LOL, in which platform you play pc, or console share you pc specs

[frosty roost]

my processor or just anything?

[supple oracle]

everything

especially what type of storage you use, HDD or SDD

[frosty roost]

oh i gotcha, give me a sec

[obsidian shard]

fastes way (If your on Windows) is to run dxdiag

[supple oracle]

It mostly a storage issue, if you use HDD will encounter these types of bugs

[frosty roost]

Processor 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-12900KF (3.20 GHz)
Installed RAM 32.0 GB (31.8 GB usable)
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070

I also use an SSD instead of an HDD

that's all i got

[supple oracle]

then I am wrong lol, is it happen all the time to you, also do you know another person has the same issue ??

[frosty roost]

it runs really well on doom, storage is completely fine so i have no clue

only me

[slender night]

Maybe your Slayer just likes to T-pose

[frosty roost]

he's such a dork lmaooo

[half heron]

Pls help I started playing on PC then switched to Xbox Series but the PC crappy settings remained! Can anyone help?

[supple oracle]

in that case I can't send it, because it not a common issue, since it only happen to you, If multiple people encounter the same issue I will send it then

[frosty roost]

that's all good

[half heron]

Okay

[supple oracle]

And T pose it funny, I will not want to be fixed I like to see it LOL

[frosty roost]

slayer's just showing his dominance

[supple oracle]

😂

[slender night]

What do you mean crappy settings? Like your input options and difficulty modifiers?

[supple oracle]

what you mean, you pc settings, transfer to xbox series that not possible

[slender night]

It is. The game is an Xbox Play Anywhere title

[supple oracle]

Which type settings, graphics or inputs ??

[dark dock]

I've never done that before so I dont have any idea how to....😔

[green estuary]

just search "submit a tech support ticket to bethesda" on google lol

[slender night]

I remember back when the Slayers Club channel was still around, people figured out you can ask Bethesda support to give you the defunct Slayers Club items and they'd do it

[green estuary]

yeah I think they'll still give you the zombie slayer skin if you ask

someone did that earlier

[slender night]

I got everything using this and on one hand I think it's kinda undermining the effort of the people who got them back when they were accessible, but on the other hand, who cares

😭?

[dark dock]

I've had such horrible googling experiences over the past few years that I just default to asking for help from communities as they tend to help better. But i managed to find out where to go thank you 🙂

[obsidian shard]

The Steam Awards are live!
You can vote For DOOM: The Dark Ages in the following categories:

• Game of the Year
• Best Game on Steam Deck
• Outstanding Visual Style
• Most Innovative Gameplay
• Best Game You Suck At
• Best Soundtrack
• Outstanding Story-Rich
• Sit Back and Relax

[fleet spruce]

oh a game i will actually vote for

[green estuary]

holy shit
all the doom games are 50% off

[harsh egret]

well technically you can nominate TDA in every category but

[harsh egret]

holy fuck lol

[green estuary]

tda on sale for 35 bucks 👀

[slender night]

Insanely low price for such a good game

[green estuary]

tda isn't eligible for best soundtrack in the steam awards
gtfo

wait, actually it is

that's odd, wasn't showing up for a second

[harsh egret]

no yeah u can vote any game in any category im pretty sure lol

tda is "better with friends"

tbh what is that award name, "this game is mid when you play it solo, but good when you play with friends"

[green estuary]

tempted to nominate it for "story-rich game" but that'd be a little too much trolling for me lmao

[harsh egret]

yeah i didnt do that

[green estuary]

probably just another way to say "best co-op/mp game"

[fleet spruce]

I have done my part 🫡

[harsh egret]

so just name it that

[manic arch]

No, it HAS to be roundabout

[green estuary]

well it doesn't seem like steam really does that lol
there's the "labor of love" award, "sit back and relax" award

although I'm honestly tempted to nominate eternal for the labor of love award
multiple years after launch and id is still pushing official mod support

[harsh egret]

wait true actually

[manic arch]

Can labor of love nominees be games that won labor of love previously?

[green estuary]

probably

[manic arch]

Cause I'm just say'n Terraria could def win it again

[harsh egret]

isnt that like not getting updates anymore

i remember smth about that

[manic arch]

Still one more big update

[harsh egret]

ah

[manic arch]

Its in its final phase

[slender night]

I'll personally throw Heretic + Hexen the labor of love, remastering a fairly niche '95 game is awesome

[manic arch]

I'd nominate Hexen 2 remaster if and when it happens

Or Heretic 2. Or both if its a duo release

Her+Hex would go crazy under best coop game

[slender night]

Nevermind it has to be a year old release to get Labor of Love

[manic arch]

We'll get em next year

[green estuary]

this whole awards season thing is just reminding me how few new games I actually play

[slender night]

I play oldies and only really get new games after their peak of hype is over. TDA is the fastest I've bought a DOOM game (except for D+D2) by far

[manic arch]

Fr, I played like 2 games from this year

[green estuary]

same

[manic arch]

Okay I played like 4 2025 games

[green estuary]

and even tda I still waited for it to go on sale first

[slender night]

I wanted to wait but just decided to buy it and literally a day later the 50% sale hit

[manic arch]

Silksong, TDA, E33, and Split Fiction

[harsh egret]

kcd2 was amazing

[manic arch]

Yknow Steam allows for you to refund it and buy the cheaper version if that happens?

[green estuary]

really?

[manic arch]

So Ive heard at least

[green estuary]

that's awfully cash money of them

[slender night]

I do but I had 2 hours of playtime by then + I bought it on Xbox

[manic arch]

Oof

[green estuary]

ouch

[slender night]

A little bummed out, sure, but I loved the game. I can't be upset at myself for spending more on it

[manic arch]

I preordered it, got a lotta shit for doing so

But I don't preorder often so I earned it

[slender night]

A lotta shit as in rewards or judgement

[manic arch]

I've preordered three games total the last 2 years

[slender night]

I have never preordered one

I was close to preordering the new PvZ remaster but then AI allegations came and ended up being true, so...

[manic arch]

I only preorder titles I 100% trust

Dooms "worst" game is still a solid 8 (Doom 3) so I said fuck it and preordered it

Though I haven't really played much of TDA recently

I love the game but it came out at a really bad time for me

[harsh egret]

preordering starfield taught me a lesson

[slender night]

Usually when people talk about worst they go for Final DOOM

Or maybe not "usually" but from what I have seen

Aside from the people that dog on DOOM 3 without playing it

[green estuary]

well I also dog on doom 3, but I've actually played it

[slender night]

Based?

You can say DOOM 3 was molded from shit and I'll be ok with that sentence as long as you're not blindly following what other people say

[green estuary]

idk, I just don't like it lol

[slender night]

Don't wanna sound like I'm old but those damn only-Eternal fans do it so often

[green estuary]

true

their whole perception of what doom is as a franchise comes solely from eternal and 2016

[slender night]

The fact the definition of DOOM is judged with Eternal as a metric is absolutely hilarious

Come on guys, that's the SEVENTH game

[green estuary]

and then they'll say something "doesn't feel like a doom game" as if they have any real frame of reference

[manic arch]

I have played every DOOM game so I can say I think Doom 3 is my least favorite DOOM game but is still a good game

[slender night]

Same people will tell you Doomguy was always powerful and there's such a thing as lore accurate gameplay

But I really am sounding like an old whiney person now

[manic arch]

Ok, we are forgetting 2 Doom games here

Doom rpg 1 and 2

[green estuary]

if it's not an fps, I don't really count it

[slender night]

We're not counting the mobile games (even then it'd be 4 missing)

[manic arch]

Then yeah my least favorite is Doom 3

[slender night]

And it's based you played it before making that judgement

[manic arch]

Yeah, I absolutely love Doom

I played Doom 3 before I even had a phone

On the 360

I grew up on the N64, Xbox 360, and 3DS

[slender night]

Quite the variety

I just had a shitty XP family computer with Rayman 2

[manic arch]

Peak mentioned

I feel like we talked about Rayman 2 before

[slender night]

Briefly

[manic arch]

Thought so, I bounce between this server and the Hollow Knight server quite a bit so its hard to keep up sometimes

But going back a little I think its fine to compare the 3 modern Doom titles (2016, Eternal, and TDA) to Eternal

But you can't really compare it to the classic titles or 3

[slender night]

I also think it is fine to compare Eternal to Eternal

[manic arch]

I meant the dlcs but forgot to type that part 😭

[karmic pendant]

rayman 3 is the best game in the series dont @ me

[slender night]

2 and 3 both rock

[manic arch]

Idk man, Rayman Orgins

I love Orgins and Legends

[obsidian shard]

Clearly you haven't played Zuma's Revenge, as it's the greatest game ever made next to Peggle

[karmic pendant]

imagine if doomguy had the claw grip powerup from rayman 3

[slender night]

Meathook

[karmic pendant]

yeah but

for his hands

[manic arch]

Doomguy and Globlox crossover would go hard

TDA slayer with a Gloxblox costume

[slender night]

Don't do another Doomblade where it's another simple addition to his gloves that gets thrown around in promo material but is really useless in-game

[karmic pendant]

idk man doomblade literally killed davoth

[slender night]

With its own two feet it walked up to him and stabbed him

I mean you literally NEVER use it yourself as the player. It's just for the glory kill animations

[karmic pendant]

ok that’s fair

[frosty roost]

i feel like most of my votes went to doom honestly lol

[obsidian shard]

real

[frosty roost]

i immediately voted TDA though once i saw steam GOTY

[obsidian shard]

These votes are just for the Finalists and Nominees!
So after Dec 1st is when we vote for the Winner!

[fleet spruce]

same

[frail bloom]

Well I played is dark ages this year, so uh I guess all of these lmao
But judging by the other games that released, I'd go most innovative gameplay. Imma be honest with you the sequels like Hades 2 or silksong did not go crazy with the changes iirc. I'd say best ost too but E33 exists

[small dew]

Well thanks. How can I practice all of that

[frosty roost]

ohhh i see

[obsidian shard]

But i have no doubt it wont be nominated as it also has less competition (PS)

[frail bloom]

This is the last week of november

Then december

[small dew]

Exp 33 game of the year for sure

[frail bloom]

Yup

But this game is game of the year in my heart

[obsidian shard]

Precisly

Time to give id 50 more dollars tho

[small dew]

Absolute cinema i still listen to expedition music when chillin

[frail bloom]

Jay their #1 donator

You making id rich

[small dew]

Dark ages was just released at the wrong time

If it released with the fixes already it could have the chance for game of the year

[obsidian shard]

well lets see
Steam Sale - 50$
Collectors Edition - 250$
Digitally bought it -100$

[frail bloom]

It's alr the quality wouldn't be different either way

Peak is still peak

[frail bloom]

Kinda early for half off huh?

Like on the ps5 the premium upgrade is 17 bucks

Like wooaah

[obsidian shard]

Eternal had tons of issues at launch too, but when i see people compare TDA to Eternal its always Post Launch Eternal, not launch

[frail bloom]

Where's my horde mode and 6 master levels that took years to release!!!!

Literal years

[small dew]

Should I get the premium upgrade

[frail bloom]

No

Imo no

[green estuary]

might be a good idea now

as it's on sale 50% off

[frail bloom]

Oh wait ye I forgot

It's on sale

So actually yes

[obsidian shard]

not really, Eternal went on sale for 50% on its first Quakecon!

[small dew]

It is 12$

[green estuary]

on steam that basically means you're getting the dlc plus a skin and some extra goodies for just 17.50

[frail bloom]

Good to know!

[frail bloom]

Bro that's a steal

[green estuary]

dead game smh

[obsidian shard]

(artbook and Digital OST)

[green estuary]

dude I'm definitely getting the premium edition

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-eternal-doomguy-doom-slayer-doom-guy-shotgun-gif-27413588

[frail bloom]

Ye atleast I get the dlc instantly when it comes out

Those 100 bucks better be well spent

[green estuary]

people were unironically saying this about tda when it went on sale for QC

[obsidian shard]

And DLC!

[frail bloom]

No way they included that

C'mon this is common sense here

[obsidian shard]

they were

[frail bloom]

Depressing

[green estuary]

well, to be fair to eternal, it released with battlemode (kek) and one free master level

[frail bloom]

That's fair

Although no one cares abt le battle mode

[obsidian shard]

TDA has Ripatorium (Peakatorium)

But will have
DLC
Master Campaign/Master Levels

[frail bloom]

And arc complex was eh

[frail bloom]

Better line up tbh

Ripatorium is already my fav mode

Behind snapmap

[obsidian shard]

Well your forgetting the Cosmetics!

[frail bloom]

I forgot abt that

[obsidian shard]

very VERY true there

[frail bloom]

What type of person are you to keep asking abt cosmetics

Like where's your priorities

[green estuary]

eternal is clearly the better game because of all the skins
like c'mon man

[frail bloom]

Oh no, no doomicorn?😭

[obsidian shard]

But TDA has a double length Campaign so where do you compare there when the other has Battlemode at launch?

[slender night]

The skins in TDA are not worth the hassle you have to go for them but I don't think anyone cares

[frail bloom]

No one should care

Bc they'll be free anyways

Or idk put on a bundle that's easily attainable

Either one I don't remember

[slender night]

Well if they're gonna be free anyway that's kinda sucky for those that spent money on a controller just for them, but better for everyone else

I got the controller skin from someone generous back in early May

[obsidian shard]

Why would you buy a 100$ Controller for a skin is the better question??

[frail bloom]

Sneaky you can't ask this

[obsidian shard]

darn

[frail bloom]

You're the #1 donator

Donators give money

You're the #1 man

[slender night]

I can understand wanting it all

[obsidian shard]

Well you see the Controller is a piece of Merch, i personally do not care for the skins, but it is a nice bonus

[frail bloom]

I feel like the ripatorium tab has been kinda empty recently

[obsidian shard]

true, I Suppose I am viewing things how I view it intead of the general audience

[obsidian shard]

Ive been cooking up something!

[frail bloom]

Man I wanna play

[harsh egret]

i wonder if they fixed the thing where stuff will get deleted if theres 3 days (or 1 week if the owner of the post changes it) of inactivity on a post

cuz if not... uhh

[frail bloom]

What!!

No way

I'll lose all my stuff

[harsh egret]

i told them about it

back when they made the channel

[frail bloom]

Well I haven't noticed that

Maybe it's already fixed?

[harsh egret]

no clue

[harsh egret]

@midnight marsh apologies for the ping but has this been fixed? ^

[frail bloom]

Hato you should play Gladiator

It's my latest preset

[harsh egret]

i might tmr, got too much stuff going on atm

[frail bloom]

Ye sorry

Alr

[midnight marsh]

Nothing will be deleted. It will be archived automatically after 3 days of inactivity. There is nothing to fix.

[harsh egret]

no lol no worries just letting u know i wont be able to til tmr

[harsh egret]

ah alr

tyty

[obsidian shard]

I will give it a go later, Once I'm back from my Late-Great Grandmothers

[frail bloom]

Awesome

Does grandma play doom

Yes or no

"Yes"

[strong moth]

I plan on posting my first attempt at a preset in the next couple days. Pretty happy with how it feels/plays so far but this is my first pass at something like this. I’ll be calling it “Choir of Lomarith”.

[spark elm]

Telling ya, Nerathul, Lomarith, and Resurrection would be neat Ripatorium arenas.

[frail bloom]

Forsaken plains aswell

[spark elm]

Oh 100%.

[frail bloom]

I def think we should have more then 3

Y'all think 6 is enough?

One from forsaken plains, one from abyssal forest

Or they could add dlc locations whenever the dlc is out

Spice it up a lil

[green estuary]

there needs to be a hell arena for sure

6 would be solid

[alpine pilot]

[frail bloom]

Ye 6 sounds like enough

[alpine pilot]

doot

[frail bloom]

[fading osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doot-doot-skeleton-trumpet-e1m1-gif-25528371

[alpine pilot]

where doom

[spark elm]

If we get forsaken plains, infernal chasm is always on. Fits just right.

[strong moth]

I’d like an Aratum or Belly of the Beast map honestly lol

[harsh egret]

Abyssal forest ripatorium map

[strong moth]

I’d like a Belly of the Beast or Sentinel Command Station map that’s made up of a more segmented, room- or zone- based arena that requires more movement between zones and has more funnel points to sorta counter the already-existing wide open zones

As far as Aratum it feels like you could basically copy/paste the final encounter map from the end of that level and I’d be stoked haha

[random sand]

Belly of the beast map would be kinda funny. All taking place inside the old one😭

[green estuary]

belly of the beast, hell nah
no more stomach acid for me, thank you very much

[frail bloom]

Hell yeah

[frail bloom]

Yay I finished my run

Max slider run done

Now I'm gonna replay the entire campaign normally

After gym

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/hugo-martin-doom-eternal-dark-ages-happy-yay-gif-13218051490774665565

[harsh egret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/491020118780805140/1442660377165824091/20251125_003649.jpg?ex=69263dad&is=6924ec2d&hm=5d440be19f22d1bfbf5139b9636e6588e856ef4faa6852fefe9b9b264cada0c8&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/491020118780805140/1442660377757356124/20251125_003647.jpg?ex=69263dad&is=6924ec2d&hm=b5b800d6f4cbe3690522f4de13d7e0a0c2763966540fd5c09639cf1d576d0d06&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/491020118780805140/1442660378277314702/20251125_003646.jpg?ex=69263dad&is=6924ec2d&hm=26ab607bad988b754147fef32ef1f909ad3c9f149e53daf4b0a93881963b2657&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/491020118780805140/1442660378713657534/20251125_003645.jpg?ex=69263dad&is=6924ec2d&hm=a1af45b7a391908ccb5e2271767c3b9926fb14989682368f6a9708793d4ae5e5&

these concepts are crazy bruh

[twilit stone]

the concept art for these games in terms of the environments is always crazy (and better)

[solid nacelle]

I still think about the immora concept art

[frosty roost]

THE PURPLE ONE HELLO????

these are insane

[strong moth]

It doesn’t NEED to have acid haha I just love the aesthetic

[frail bloom]

Ye def some star wars influence there

Hugo is a big star wars nerd

[twilit stone]

the third one is quite literally the star killer base from 7

[strong moth]

All hail the stinky king

[frail bloom]

I'd love to visit some techno hell that isn't called immora

They should try the techno hell aesthetic this time

Maybe they'd get it right

(Forget abt immora)

[frail bloom]

Can we see that peak again I just wanna see

[twilit stone]

i like immora but they definitely didn't really use it to full effect

[frail bloom]

It's too blue for me

Like all the blue fog

Looks weird

It's not aesthetically pleasing

[twilit stone]

i personally kinda dug the blue, it made Immora feel a lot colder which contrasted the entire rest of Hell pretty well, which is either usually humid or flaming hot, but the red look from the concept art definitely would've made it feel more explicitly hellish

[frail bloom]

Not just hellish but it had like scarlet colors I think

Like nice pink colors

Gimme pink hell

[frail bloom]

I'd like the blue to go with more colder looking enviroments, like dante's infero with the snow/ice

Not with some dark red buildings

Kinda like this....

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1378369563384741920/1400622001261121596/image.png?ex=69263c63&is=6924eae3&hm=9b8eb434bd112a3f30e80c050a620cd766bf16ef89ad749b18cff45b03e1265c&

[twilit stone]

yeah that is definitely more fitting

[harsh egret]

those concepts i sent were very early on, they were just exploring different looks and vibes for the game

and honestly a game like that... holy shit give it to me now

[frail bloom]

Ikr

Star wars doom is so awesome

They already did pacific rim

[twilit stone]

also to elaborate on this, if they do other hell tech aesthetics i think they should try the classic doom looking ones

[frail bloom]

Ye and call it city of dis

Would be magnificent

[supple oracle]

are those from the DLC ??

[frail bloom]

No just concept art from the base game

[supple oracle]

Wow

[harsh egret]

yeah those were very early concepts to try and explore some ideas and looks for the game

they're insane

[supple oracle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/491020118780805140/1442660378277314702/20251125_003646.jpg?ex=69263dad&is=6924ec2d&hm=26ab607bad988b754147fef32ef1f909ad3c9f149e53daf4b0a93881963b2657& this one is insane

[manic arch]

The next Doom game has major potential to be like the Auger Zenith mod. Full cyberpunk apocalyptic

[harsh egret]

u see some of these concepts they make for their games and u realise they are not running out of ideas any time soon, they can make so much unique and cool looking stuff

[frail bloom]

Nuh uh hato this ain't doom this some star wars crap, where's muh dooom

This ain't the doom I grew up with

[manic arch]

Feels more Warhammer

[frail bloom]

Back in my day we had fire and brimstone

Not this star wars crap

[twilit stone]

that purple one is meant to be Hell right? kinda reminds me a lot of some of 2016's concept art for Hell

[supple oracle]

I hope we gonna see this one in future

[harsh egret]

r u being sarcastic lol i cant tell

[frail bloom]

Idk you tell me

"Back in my day"

Not even an adult

[manic arch]

I would love to see much more of TDA’s Hell

And maybe reference to the Motherdemon this time

[warm ibex]

was just about to send that. Very good examples of how easily they could make a TDA sequel that feels completely different and unique while still staying in Argent D'Nur

[harsh egret]

yep

[manic arch]

A Doom Gaiden game would go hard. DOOM: Fall Of The Sentinel

[warm ibex]

In terms of visuals, I think TDA's sequel should be what Eternal was to 2016. From dark and gritty to fantastical and arcadey (maybe not to the extent of Eternal but still)

[harsh egret]

eeeeeehhhh

[warm ibex]

and then move on from medieval doom entirely

[manic arch]

Maybe just don’t have an ugly color pallet this time

[harsh egret]

damn

[frail bloom]

He doesn't mean it by that much

[manic arch]

I love Eternal but its hard to look at sometimes

[warm ibex]

I mean it by the ammount shown in those concepts

[elder raven]

challenge run finished

no upgrades

[harsh egret]

well here i can confidently say we aint on the same page

[manic arch]

Next Doom is Pirate Doom

[frail bloom]

But you like the concepts don't you?

[elder raven]

Pirate Slayer in Nekravol

[harsh egret]

i dont really like the arcadey part

[elder raven]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3061810/Like_a_Dragon_Pirate_Yakuza_in_Hawaii/

Steam

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Price

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Recommendations

5045

Metacritic

81

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[manic arch]

Slayer gets a whole pirate themed weapon kit

[harsh egret]

yes?`they arent arcadey

[manic arch]

Yakuza mentioned less gooooo

[frail bloom]

Ye I wouldn't say they're arcadey either

[manic arch]

Yakuza Pirates is peak

[warm ibex]

I figured you would understand what I meant

oh well lol

[elder raven]

@frail bloom about to do the max slider run

500% damage and stuff

[frail bloom]

New save?

[elder raven]

yup

[harsh egret]

nvm i re-read what u wrote earlier lol

[frail bloom]

God save you son

[manic arch]

I can imagine Slayer running around with a mini shoulder canon and musket

[elder raven]

its okay ill do it no hits

[frail bloom]

Wait till you breathe

Then you'll realize you're in it for the long run

[elder raven]

on my soul first try no deaths

[green estuary]

[frail bobcat]

@hard thistle (Reads Absolute Doom saying that Dark Ages is still set in the first age of hell) what doesn't Doom 1 end with the Slayer killing the dark lord of hell (the Spider Mastermind) which should end the current age of hell?

[frail bloom]

Nice knowing ya

[harsh egret]

but yeah nonetheless i cant say i want more arcadey stuff in future games, eternal is good but i dont want that again lol

[frail bobcat]

Or are ages of hell calculated in some other way

[hard thistle]

The Spiderdemon isn't said to be a Dark Lord of Hell - only that it masterminded the invasion. We can think of it more like a general.

[manic arch]

I want Eternals gunplay back so bad

[twilit stone]

i second this

[hard thistle]

Ages are indeed implied to be measured by the living reign of a Dark Lord.

[warm ibex]

I don't want another Eternal art style either, but I do think a bright and colorful "fantasy novel" style medieval doom is the right way to go. Will I personally like it more than TDA's art style? probably not, but it definitely beats two back to back medieval entries with nearly identical styles

[frail bobcat]

I thought she was said to be a dark lord in Doom 4 (2016)

[green estuary]

Eternal is awesome in spite of all the colorful stuff that burns its way into your retinas, not because of it

[hard thistle]

Different demon. The Aranea Imperatrix / Spider Mastermind was an individual demon, the Dark Lord of the Fourth Age - the Spiderdemon of the original game was just one of many Spiderdemons we fight.

[harsh egret]

^

couldnt have said it better myself

[manic arch]

Yeah, the fast paced action just works better for Doom

[harsh egret]

i like and appreciate the unique look but i love 2016s and tda's look and vibe soooo much more

[twilit stone]

Eternal's aesthetic can also be improved with modding, like with the lootdrops and stuff especially

[frail bobcat]

Oh I see, I thought the Spider Mastermind in Doom 4 (2016) was the resurrected remains of the Mastermind from Doom 1

Lol

[hard thistle]

Nah, nothing says that. The Aranea Imperatrix is said to be a psionic demon that has no physical form until Olivia Pierce's body is twisted to become her vessel.

[warm ibex]

I like QC 2018's slightly grittier graphical direction more than the launch version

[harsh egret]

for sure

[twilit stone]

everyone does

[manic arch]

What if in Dark Ages dlc we find the remains of the dragon from Doom 3’s lost mission expansion?

Wait no

That was roe

[elder raven]

cool idea probably wont happen though

[twilit stone]

i feel like if doom 3 is canon, it takes place after dark ages

[manic arch]

Definitely won’t, but still sick

[warm ibex]

although I don't think they should do this every time. a shift in visual direction is nice (as long as it's not too far)

[elder raven]

it could take place before doom 1, it could be happening during eternal

its an alternate universe

still connected to our hell though

[manic arch]

Idk, I want Doom 3 to happen at the same time as Doom 1 but in a parallel universe or whatever

[frail bloom]

Should they go grounded again or should they do aerial stuff again

[manic arch]

I loved aerial Doom

[elder raven]

@frail bloom oh my god the imp stalkers durability

[manic arch]

Fast demons fast slayer

[frail bobcat]

I see, alright

[frail bloom]

And that's not the end of it

[warm ibex]

they've done on the ground and above the ground. it's time for underground

[frail bloom]

Interesting...

[harsh egret]

lmao

[manic arch]

Doom the Dwarf Ages

[warm ibex]

every level is a sewer level with purple goo

[green estuary]

They should refine TDA’s combat loop some more
Eternal was a refinement and an extension of 2016, so TDA should get the same treatment

[manic arch]

Dont tell Civvie

[harsh egret]

The Mole Slayer

[manic arch]

We’re getting 1d Doom

[green estuary]

Something something doom the underwater ages

Overused joke

[harsh egret]

the doom diver

[frail bloom]

Well if that happens it's a refinement of the dlc

[twilit stone]

i personally feel like it takes place a few years before 2016, since a lot of dates and labelling, and just general aesthetics, lines up pretty well with 3

[warm ibex]

I believe that's what the DLC is supposed to be, right? Hugo compared it to the upgrade from 2016 to Eternal (although I definitely don't think it'll be that extreme)

[frail bloom]

Bc the dlc is already doing more then tag ever did

[green estuary]

Well I certainly wouldn’t mind some extra refinement in the next game lol

[harsh egret]

i feel like next game they are gonna build on the glory kill/strike system that tda has

[manic arch]

Lets get a clear connection between Wolf 3D and Doom with Slayer getting the Spear Of Destiny

[frail bloom]

Shockwave glory kills booii

Omni sprint too

[harsh egret]

also i want the demon's limbs on the ground to stop behaving like rocks on the ground and actually like flop around and shit

[frail bloom]

Agreed

[manic arch]

There is so much potential with bringing back references to 64 and 3

[frail bloom]

I want to throw demons at eachother

[manic arch]

That’d be fun

[frail bloom]

Big dumb caveman action

Oh I had an idea:

[manic arch]

Give us back the physics gun from Doom 3. Lemme pick up limbs and enemy projectiles

[harsh egret]

glory strike a mancubus and kick him into another demon behind him and stagger him and maybe it hits him so hard it breaks an arm or smth

[twilit stone]

this would actually be something innovative

[warm ibex]

I don't think the next game will be anything like TDA

[green estuary]

Oh well

[manic arch]

The next Doom game will actually be a turn based rpg

[frail bloom]

They should have a rune where if you parry an attack from an enemy, that enemy becomes aggressive towards other enemies and attacks them

Infighting to the next level

[manic arch]

The infighting rune, genius

[frail bloom]

Boi I'm cooking

[manic arch]

Fuck why didnt I think of that

[green estuary]

Now that we’ve killed ahzrak it would be interesting to see some infighting

[frail bloom]

The sentinel wolves possess demons

[twilit stone]

yea infighting is like entirely absent in tda isn't it?

[frail bloom]

And they infight

[harsh egret]

The "wololo" shield rune

[frail bloom]

Precisely

[harsh egret]

iykyk

[green estuary]

Yes
They’re an organized army, so it’s to be expected I suppose

[frail bloom]

No it exists

[green estuary]

Where

[frail bloom]

I've seen a vagary kill some imps

[twilit stone]

rly?? i swear i can never get it to happen

[frail bloom]

Pretty rare but it happens

[green estuary]

When

[frail bloom]

I want to weaponize infighting

[frail bloom]

Siege pt 1, on my max slider run

[twilit stone]

they could've at least made it so there was scripted infighting like Eternal

[green estuary]

Idk man
Enemy projectiles don’t even deal any damage to other enemy AI as far as I can tell

[manic arch]

I think TDA dlc could bring back the fleshy Unmaykr

[frail bloom]

I know what I saw

Idk what it means but I saw it

[green estuary]

Did the vagary step on the imps or something?

That’s the only thing I can think of