the-dark-ages

[harsh egret]

also they better add lost souls

cuz it makes more sense now with the rounds

[frail bloom]

I feel like that was on purpose

[harsh egret]

yh for 1.0 sure

[frail bloom]

Like no way they just forgot

[harsh egret]

suuurely

no they prob didnt

[frail bloom]

They should have said it was coming tho

[harsh egret]

time to ask next stream

[onyx topaz]

had a quick play, I got a bit snarled up because I haven't memorised the positions of each weapon in the wheel but it does feel way better than before

except now I've beaten the game so I don't care enough to play it properly yet

but yeah I can just quickly flick in a certain direction

[warm ibex]

wait until Ripatorium 2.0 or DLC drops and jump back in

[elder raven]

@frail bloom got another

https://tenor.com/view/burger-bartender-give-me-a-drink-gif-18203424439321576592

[onyx topaz]

absolutely

[warm ibex]

it's a nice trick once you know how to do it! hope that helps a bit next time you take a more serious dive into the game

[onyx topaz]

hopefully the ripatorium 2.0 adds some kind of quickplay button that just throws a heap of enemies at me

without me having to set it up first

[harsh egret]

there will be some presets by id software and community made presets they will update semi-regularly

[elder raven]

there will be

[frail bloom]

Yes hol on

(1)"Oops! All Champions" loadout:

30 zombies
5 energy soldiers
10 shield soldiers
4 stalkers
3 pinky riders
3 hell knights
1 aggadon champion
1 komodo champion
1 vagary champion

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/red-mist-gif-15062702965775478000

[frail bloom]

Trust me it's pretty easy

[harsh egret]

bruh 57/60 on my 2nd try

my game keeps freezing lmfao

not even making it up

[frail bloom]

L

[harsh egret]

now my game is stuck on black screen after restarting the encounter

👍

indeed getting ragebaited myself

[frail bloom]

Oh I hate that

I know you clicked start way too quick

[harsh egret]

ye

[frail bloom]

Yup

[mystic barn]

Ooh, I got one

“Ahzrak’s Last Stand”

• 15 Heated Metal Soldiers
• 10 Energy Shield Soldiers
• 6 Imp Stalkers
• 3 Battle Knights
• 3 Pinky Riders
• 3 Armored Pinky Riders
• 3 Armored Arachnotrons
• 3 Armored Mancubus
• 1 Revenant
• 1 Whiplash
• 1 Acolyte
• 2 Cacodemon Hybrids
• 2 Cyberdemons
• 2 Cosmic Baron
• 2 Agaddons
• 1 Komodo
• 2 Vagary

1 round, no respawns, 5 minute time limit, BFC optional but HIGHLY recommended, Apotheosis necessary listening. Recommended for base Nightmare (modify at your own peril)

[frail bloom]

Imma try this rn

[elder raven]

finally done that

took me like 4 tries

[elder raven]

now time to see this one

this looks like an ultra nightmare lets see

[frail bloom]

You got 59 demons ye?

[mystic barn]

Nah, there’s 60

[frail bloom]

Huh

Oh two vagaries

Ok

[obsidian shard]

Try this
MANCUBUS MAYHEM (possible Round 5 when Ripatorium 2.0 Launches, will test when it actually releases)

Respawn Count: 3
10 Zombie
10 Soldiers
1 Chaingunner Soldier
3 Imp
6 Stone Imp

6 Imp Stalker
3 Nightmare Imp Stalker
2 Hell Knight
2 Battle Knight
2 Arachnotron
1 Armored Arachnotron
3 Mancubi
3 Mortar Mancubi
3 Armored Mancubi
3 Mancubi Leader
1 Acolyte

[elder raven]

this entire time ive had 2 komodo champions

or 1

[obsidian shard]

I think you'll like this @frail bloom

[frail bloom]

Hol on I have to finish this without bfc first

Pretty tough

[elder raven]

this ones pretty hard

ill save it and play mancubus mayhem

[mystic barn]

It's doable, but it'll take you a few tries. It's my build and I struggle with it

[elder raven]

definitely designed by ahzrak

[frail bloom]

Sorry I had to use the bfc

5 min feels too short

I had like 30 seconds peft

[elder raven]

anyways i just did the mancubus mayhem challenge, i thought it'd be easier but its actually kinda challenging but im using the settings i used for samir

[harsh egret]

i feel like usually u dont wanna set 5 mins to any encounter really

[frail bloom]

Ye I agree

[elder raven]

i always do 10 mins

[harsh egret]

yea

[mystic barn]

They call me Sadism Sam the way I set my encounters at 5 mins

[frail bloom]

Did you do the encounter without bfc?

[mystic barn]

Fuck no lol

[frail bloom]

In 5 min?

[mystic barn]

I always use it. I can complete in 5 mins usually

[frail bloom]

It's doable on 10 min without bfc I can see it

[mystic barn]

More often than not, I’ll die before the timer runs out

[frail bloom]

But 5 min feels too short

[mystic barn]

That’s what makes it fun!

[frail bloom]

Ok imma try this one now sneaky

Did it

Felt like playing guitar hero for a second or smt

Btw the song I had on was battle on the blackened tide

In your honor

[brittle finch]

My game glitched and now I can’t take damage lmaooo

[frail bloom]

Imma make some bangers when 2.0 drops

[brittle finch]

How’s my max FPS on Habeth less than my max on Abyssal Forest?

[brittle finch]

Tbf my average is higher

[naive wigeon]

its not js u either

abyssal forest always ran better for me than heberh

[obsidian shard]

Hebeth has a lot more stuff going on

More particules, More Animations (Sentinels, Atlan)

And in general more stuff

[naive wigeon]

yeah

even tho most fights take place indoors

the stuff going on outside is what’s eating most of the framerate

[spark elm]

Ripatorium should get more arenas.

[naive wigeon]

for sure

[spark elm]

A nerathul arena would be cool.

The Forsaken Plains, Nerathul, Lomarith.

[naive wigeon]

and siege

[spark elm]

Ohhh.

[mystic barn]

Currently designing my 5 round Ripatorium encounter. It’ll be extremely demanding. I’m expecting the player kills 200 demons in 5 minutes for the first round

[obsidian shard]

Forsaken plains would go so hard (I Love the Hell Levels)

[stone jay]

can i suggest for one 30 zombies, 10 heated sheilds, 9 imps, 2 whiplashes, mortar manc, acolyte and a baron. I did it for 10 respawns, hard but good

[mystic barn]

Oh boy, talk about tough. I’ll have to give it a crack, see if it’s worthwhile. My current Round 3 is 10 zombies, 4 stalkers, 1 acolyte, 2 cacos, and 3 barons with 2 respawns in 5 mins. Shit’s tough but doable without BFC

[alpine pilot]

where doom

[stone jay]

see i'm just doing 10 respawns on anything, you'd be surprised how handy chatgpt is for making these, my limited creativity is offset with AI 🤣

[inner tundra]

Game is broken, again, MFG stopped working.
Multi Frame Gen stopped working again, same performance between FrameGen 2x and Multi Frame Gen 3x and 4x.
WTF?

[harsh egret]

not for me lol

[frail bloom]

How does chatgpt know what the best demon combinations are

I don't trust it

I meticulously crafted my presets I won't let no bolt body overtake my craft

I guess I should design my 5 wave encounter

I wanna make thumbnails too

[stone jay]

Trial and error

But I've found a good balance

[frail bloom]

What's the best you've found

[frail bloom]

Y'know what would be cool. Classic doom maps

[stone jay]

I'll have to check my notepad I've don't like 50 encounters with it 🤣🤣 usually cycle 5 per map

[frail bloom]

Have a map like the babylon tower, the suburbs, the city

Btw I didn't know some of their names so I had to use ai, and some of these names bro I'm dying😭 😭

Do you know what they call episode four of ultimate doom?

Thy kingdom come😭 😭

Then I asked abt all maps in Doom 2

Y'know what I got?

[fading osprey]

ep five: our daily bread

[frail bloom]

The Heebie Jeebies😭 😭

Gotham city

[harsh egret]

it doesnt but u can prob help guide it into making smth better and better after each prompt or smth lmao

[fading osprey]

doombat

[frail bloom]

Like where is this coming from😭

Who the hell thinks map 26 is called gotham city

The heebie jeebies is the one that got me

[fading osprey]

chatgpt hungover tying to name doom maps be like:

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/bh187-spongebob-patrick-star-derp-duh-gif-21500047

It gets its info from places on the internet,

Who on planet earth thinks map 18 of doom 2 is called heebie jeebies

[frail bloom]

It's not chatgpt its meta ai

I think there's a difference in quality

Cuz I asked another time,

It repeated "Hell's gate" from map 20 to map 29

[fading osprey]

ai still shit one way or another tbh

[frail bloom]

LOL oh my god I asked it for accurate information

Ok I think it got it

[fading osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/stressed-out-suspense-eating-popcorn-waiting-to-see-what-happens-gif-14120143

[frail bloom]

I think it would be cool if we had classic doom maps in the ripatorium, the retro versions of course:
-Dead simple
-The factory
-Downtown
-Suburbs
-Tower of babel

[fading osprey]

based

[frail bloom]

These are all pretty open wide maps

[fading osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/repo-repo-game-lethal-company-yes-agree-gif-4179274129702757502

[frail bloom]

And honestly would be an easy way to fit classic doom maps

[harsh egret]

bruh im dying

i asked chatgpt to generate some hard ripatorium presets

[frail bloom]

Uh oh

[harsh egret]

💀 1. “Throne of Endless Fire”

Theme: Archvile supremacy and resource starvation.
Enemies:
3 × Archviles (spawn staggered, not simultaneous)
2 × Tyrants
3 × Cyber-Mancubi
4 × Whiplashes
8 × Imps (constant trickle spawns for ammo top-ups)

Arena:
Large cathedral hall split into three platforms with fire trenches between them.
Small bridges that collapse after ~15 seconds of standing on them.

Rules / Twist:
No armor pickups.
Ammo drops reduced by 50%.
Archviles spawn sequentially every 30 seconds, forcing constant repositioning.

Goal:
Survive for 4 minutes — prioritize targets and use environment destructibility for cover.

[frail bloom]

It's still stuck on eternal

[fading osprey]

LOL

[frail bloom]

Does it even know what you're talking abt

[harsh egret]

HAHAHAHAHA

[frail bloom]

It's making its own maps

[harsh egret]

dude before i asked for hard ones he sent me some stupid ones

one of them being

🧠 6. “Trial of the Sentinels”
Theme: Boss-style endurance fight.
Enemies:
1 × Gladiator
1 × Baron
2 × Tyrants
2 × Spirit Possessors

Arena: Colosseum with destructible walls and random lava hazards.
Twist: Spirits can possess large demons, forcing priority targeting.

[fading osprey]

boutta replace Bethesda and ID in 20 yrs frrrrrrr😭

[frail bloom]

OH MY GOD

Why the brain

Bro I gotta ask now

[harsh egret]

like bro genuinely has no idea about anything that has to do with tda

[frail bloom]

It doesn't know what I'm talking abt ok

[fading osprey]

unfortunately i cant play TDA cuz i have a switch

https://tenor.com/view/waah-waa-sad-wah-waaah-gif-25875771

[fleet spruce]

get a steam deck

it's the bare minimum now

[fading osprey]

i can still get the other two thankfully

i may consider it with my parents in the future

[stone jay]

30 Zombies, 10 energy, 4 stone imps, imp stalker, armoured rider, mortat manc and a champ agaddon, i can't remember which map it was for, probably ether harbour or the village

and cyberdemon leader, 2 hell knights, whiplash, 1 set of heated and energy sheilds, 2 lots of imps and stone imps and 10 zombies

both for 10 respawns with 20min timers, but probably 15mins doable, 10 if you're really quick

[meager vortex]

you what?! lol

[half plaza]

Okay prompt zombie

[stone jay]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[fading osprey]

yeah it sucks

[cerulean pagoda]

hi

[fading osprey]

hello

[elder raven]

gonna be 100% real rn i asked gpt to make a challenge and it actually was pretty good

ill look for it when i get on my pc

[uncut needle]

this games damn glitched progression is so annoying

[elder raven]

ive noticed that the amount of gold in some levels isnt accurate to how much gold a player can find

[uncut needle]

yeah

[elder raven]

one of them has around 153 gold you can find and i collected maybe 50-100 more than that

[uncut needle]

im trying to record a walkthrough on Spire of nerathul but magically im at
0/11 secrets
177/359 gold
1/3 rubies
1/2 wraiths
1/1 on BOTH leader upgrades
3/5 collectibles

and im in the first area

and half way done wit hthe auto turret challenge

ive had to restart my entire recording playthrough already because the game says i have everything when i miss a single item and now its not a 100% level

[elder raven]

hopefully they fix this one in a later update

[uncut needle]

hopefully they dont reset all our settings again in the next patch

[half plaza]

I'm sure it was but you should try to come up with things yourself instead of subletting creativity to a robot

[solid beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/zoidburg-woop-flee-runaway-futurama-gif-5118359

[main wagon]

hello

[digital sigil]

No

https://tenor.com/view/eminem-im-pretty-awesome-eminem-real-slim-shady-the-real-slim-shady-7tb-gif-25730513

[elder raven]

im hoping that the quality of cutscenes will be a constant throughout the next doom games

[uncut needle]

whats the best way to max out the shredder? as in do the mastery challenge? it always seems like that one goes slowest

[mystic barn]

Use Pincushion, not Ricochet

[stone jay]

it's not bad is it?

[cerulean pagoda]

pincushion is hte best one

ricochet is for those who keep getting ragebaited by invisible imp stalkers

[green estuary]

which would make ricochet the better option even for that reason alone

[frail bloom]

One imp stalker.

Bruh

Hey I forgot they were reworking the maps too I'm anxious on seeing what they look like now

[stone jay]

just the one, but you can add me if you're feeling it

[stone jay]

more line of sight breaks i think, i'm hoping they add another map too, the 3 are getting a little stale for me 🤣

[obsidian shard]

Theomachy (The -O-Mach-y) and from the Ashes, will help carry my gameplay

[frail bloom]

Sneaky wouldn't classic doom maps in ripatorium be awesome

[obsidian shard]

Yes

[frail bloom]

Yes

[obsidian shard]

no if ands or buts, just Yes

[frail bloom]

Yes

[obsidian shard]

Its pronounced The-Om-a-key

thats cooked

It means "a war or struggle against God or among or against the gods."

Since DOOM 2016 the OST had lore in it

Or like Apotheosis

Which means "elevation to divine status" and/or also "The Culmination of a Climax"

[cerulean pagoda]

theomachy is the best soundtrack in the game imo

[frail bloom]

Ok I made the first round of my ripatorium 2.0 preset

I gotta save them

[frail bloom]

Ok I made all the rounds

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/giggle-chuckle-hahaha-holding-laughter-gif-15462551

[sly falcon]

I want this game but I am BROKE. Gonna wait.

[visual goblet]

Me too, with dark ages n eternal

[sly falcon]

Welcome to broke club, we got jackets

[visual goblet]

Broken asf? Yes, but never Without style

[mystic barn]

"Azhrak's Final Stand" Ripatorium Encounter

5 total rounds, 5 minute time limit each round. Designed for 1.0, will tweak further when 2.0 update releases (but it should be fine as is).

Round I: Unchained Predator - 5 respawns
10 Zombies
10 Soldiers
9 Imps
4 Imp Stalkers
2 Hell Knights
2 Pinky Riders
3 Mancubus

Round II: Unholy Siege - 2 respawns
5 Heated Metal Shield Soldiers
3 Imps
6 Imp Stalkers
2 Hell Knights
3 Pinky Riders
2 Armored Pinky Riders
2 Armored Arachnotrons
3 Armored Mancubus
2 Revenants
1 Whiplash
1 Agaddon

Round III: Into the Void - 2 respawns
10 Zombies
4 Imp Stalkers
1 Acolyte
2 Cacodemon Hybrids
3 Cosmic Barons

Round IV: Colossus Unleashed - 3 respawns
6 Imp Stalkers
2 Battle Knight
2 Pinky Riders

Round V: Infernal Chasm - 1 respawn
15 Heated Metal Soldiers
10 Energy Shield Soldiers
6 Imp Stalkers
3 Battle Knights
3 Pinky Riders
3 Armored Pinky Riders
3 Armored Arachnotrons
3 Armored Mancubus
1 Revenant
1 Whiplash
1 Acolyte
2 Cacodemon Hybrids
2 Cyberdemons
2 Cosmic Baron
2 Agaddons
1 Komodo
2 Vagary

BFC restricted to use in Round V only. Designed for base Nightmare (modify at your own peril).

ADVICE: I recommend you use Heaven Splitter, Power Gauntlets, and SSG/Impaler. It will make your life a whole lot easier. For the experience to feel complete, you MUST change music track each round. When 2.0 releases, use Round I and IV for glory kills and melee strikes, take advantage of pickups around arena in Round II and III, and use the BFC when the demons have herded themselves together in Round V. Turn off slow-mo, I promise it helps.

Good luck!

[cerulean pagoda]

pls allow us to spawn bosses in the ripatorium

i want to fight two enhanced azhraks at once

[uneven dragon]

five. hundred. kreeds.

[sly falcon]

You got that damn right

Hahahaha
-# seriously someone get me a code /j

[frail bloom]

What's this abt

Explain

Now

[cerulean pagoda]

id needs to give enhanced azhrak a move where he just says die, telrportds to the air, falls down and the shockwave kills u irl

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/giggle-chuckle-hahaha-holding-laughter-gif-15462551

[frail bloom]

Hey

WHY ARE YOU SMIRKING

[harsh egret]

hi

[cerulean pagoda]

(get reference)

[frail bloom]

I don't get it

What's so funny

Bc you're ragebaiting me

And I don't like it

[harsh egret]

i would never

[warm ibex]

Hato wouldn't do that

I've known him for years, we're practically brothers

[harsh egret]

^

[frail bloom]

Er so you're able to switch the music each round or you recommend the music for those specific rounds

[mystic barn]

You can switch the music each round in the menu

[frail bloom]

Ok but you can't preselect it for the player gotcha

[frail bloom]

Well why the smirk

[mystic barn]

No, not as far as I'm aware. Changing it while you're in the arena is perfectly doable though

[frail bloom]

It's a good encounter

Trust

Y'know what I should share it

Too long tooooo long

Imma just wait till 2.0 drops

[harsh egret]

imo it should be so that you can set a track for each round, or choose urself to have it randomized or change tracks whenever

[cerulean pagoda]

i hjavent used the ripatorium since a long time

[harsh egret]

duh lmao thats why its gonna be just codes instead

[frail bloom]

Can't wait for those

[mystic barn]

Agreed. Apparently that's not a focus for the devs at the minute, which is a shame

[harsh egret]

yall on console are gonna have fun

[frail bloom]

I bet after the dlc drops they'll make some good additions and qol changes

[green estuary]

a custom track each round doesn't feel necessary
but if they did like they did with some bigger campaign encounters and started with the light combat music and then ramped into the heavy music after you finish a wave or two that'd be sick

[harsh egret]

did they actually say that? is it smth planned for later down the line?

[cerulean pagoda]

an infinite wave cybergrind sorta ripatorium would be epik

[frail bloom]

Well it would be nice as an option

[harsh egret]

it would be cool as an option tho, depends on the encounter it would be sick

[mystic barn]

Heard it through the grapevine

[frail bloom]

That's what they all are

Options

[harsh egret]

also having to go to the menu to change tracks myself is a pain in the ass, i cba to open the menu between each round, i just wanna play

[warm ibex]

Didn't they say something like that during the most recent stream? no grapevine required

[harsh egret]

it kinda interrupts the gameplay lol

[mystic barn]

I'm absolved of the grapevine

[warm ibex]

you shall live free of the vine

[mystic barn]

By the same token you can use it as a rest between the insanity

[frail bloom]

Why we talking abt grapevines

[mystic barn]

Because I like grapes duh

[frail bloom]

But what is it in this context

[green estuary]

it means a rumor

[frail bloom]

[harsh egret]

yh but i dont want that tbh, i get that 10 secs or so between the round end screen and the demons spawning from what we saw in the showcase

[frail bloom]

Fancy way of saying rumor

Sounds cool

[harsh egret]

if i would want that i would press esc and chill

[warm ibex]

dinosaurheretic, Hato and I are grape enjoyers, nothing more to it

[frail bloom]

Ye y'know just following the grapevine

[frail bloom]

Uh huh

[elder raven]

just did round 2, i think the mace is doing me better than the fists were

[mystic barn]

If it works, go for it. That Round 5 will destroy you if you mistime your mace swing

[elder raven]

round 3 got me good

onward to 4

round 4 could definitely be a lot harder @mystic barn

[mystic barn]

It's a breather before the final round

It's a means of gathering any lost health and recharging melee strikes

It also lulls the player into a false sense of security

[merry sapphire]

tiktok ruined that word for me so much man i deadass read that shit in shock until i realized you meant it literally

[mystic barn]

God you're so right, bad look for those with brainrot

[merry sapphire]

had to do a double take on it

[harsh egret]

omg lol

[warm ibex]

it's time to delete the app bro, I'm dead serious 😭

[merry sapphire]

lowkey

[elder raven]

died halfway doing round v

how do i sue someone over the ripatorium?

[frail bloom]

Well it makes for a funny out of context photo

[meager vortex]

ripatorium2.0 is not ready yet

[frail bloom]

You wanna see lol

Alr well I can't crop it now but it is thumbnail material lmao

Dw I'll keep it to myself

[frail bloom]

Also this is a funny visual of you just in utter shock at your phone/monitor opening discord one day and seeing your favorite doomtuber just blurt that with no prior context known

[harsh egret]

bruh

[frail bloom]

Bruh indeed

[harsh egret]

[frail bloom]

Hato are you dissapointed

[meager vortex]

he just scratched by you

[frail bloom]

I am a bit annoying ye

[elder raven]

just put me in one of those meat crates in doom eternal bro 😭 41/60

[frail bloom]

Why do you delete the photos afterwards

[merry sapphire]

lowkey what happened LMAO

[elder raven]

lalalala

[solid beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doom-guy-no-stare-gif-11011688247122779262

[frail bloom]

There we go

Doomguy says no godamnit

Oh wait underthemayo really wanted melee
and rune swapping he's def gonna make a video on this upcoming update

[digital sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/ooops-family-guy-peter-griffin-gif-6453936642841470162

[radiant spade]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-thesimpsons-flanders-stupidsexyflanders-gif-5439362

How about this?

[bronze dirge]

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Doom:_The_Dark_Ages&diff=prev&oldid=1289167477 is this true? (I doubt it)

Was looking through the Wikipedia edits of doom the dark ages

And sorry if this goes against rules mods

[cerulean pagoda]

hi

[fading osprey]

hello

[bronze dirge]

Hi

[brisk ingot]

hello

[unkempt dragon]

hiii

[red peak]

Hellooo

[harsh egret]

hi

[red peak]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-gif-5677380953331354485

[brittle finch]

Weird

It doesn’t look like much is going on tho

Whereas Abyssal Forest is ALL shadows

All being ray and path traced

[green estuary]

Performance hot spots can be kinda unintuitive
For me the hell levels are pretty much the only times my fps ever drops below 60, but you wouldn’t think it just from looking at the environment

[brittle finch]

Fair

[green estuary]

Meanwhile the cosmic realm feels like it should destroy my fps but I often get to the mid 70s there

Maybe id tech 8 handles RT reflections and shadows better than it does particles

[brittle finch]

I get like 50 if I’m not running stupid settings that everything besides the 4090, 5080 and 5090 can’t even run without upscaling 😭

[green estuary]

Who knows

[brittle finch]

Probably

||on the final level’s opening cutscene the portal looks like shit and still eats all your FPS on PT||

[neon perch]

Why is the Whiplash so fat in this game.

I like the slender one in DE better.

The one in this game looks like she watches anime.

[green estuary]

lmao

[neon perch]

Assuming it's still female.

[green estuary]

i'll take it because it makes their hitboxes bigger

[neon perch]

Oh my God I actually have to manually add in enemies myself.

I was under the impression we already had a randomized mode in.

Nahhhhhhh I'm out.

[green estuary]

that update that everyone's talking about isn't out yet

[neon perch]

I just did all Barons on 150% speed and min parry window.

0:26 secs left.

I need a cig.

[green estuary]

what's the max number of barons

[neon perch]

Ravager best weapon and FUCK whoever says otherwise.

[neon perch]

Actually disappointing tbh, 3 at a time.

Which actually works for me because fuck the way they tuned heavies in this game.

[green estuary]

it's not solely because it's been nerfed against specific enemies pretty hard

both bosses (enhanced ahzrak especially takes almost no damage from it) as well as agaddons and komodos

[obsidian shard]

Chainshot, SSG and Impaler

[random sand]

Kid named super shotgun

[neon perch]

Reacting to your own messages isnt cool and I will see you after class.

[obsidian shard]

darn

[brittle finch]

The Super Shotgun is LITERALLY the Slayer’s choice

That and the mace

[random sand]

You mean the flail?

[brittle finch]

I swear he usually uses the mace for finishers and in cutscenes

I use the flail personally tho

[random sand]

He uses it once on the kreed maykr

[brittle finch]

Goated ass weapon

[brittle finch]

I swear more than that

[random sand]

He uses it on the kreed maykr and maybe against Ahzrak

That's it

The one he uses most is the flail

[brittle finch]

Oh sick

My favs are also his

🔥

[brittle finch]

Or hers if he wants to transition frfr

[random sand]

I mostly use the ssg and fists because it's fun to punch cyberdemons in the face

[brittle finch]

True

[random sand]

?

[brittle finch]

I just hate armor

[brittle finch]

I was being silly

[random sand]

silly goober

[brittle finch]

So peak

[random sand]

as in the gameplay thing or the outfit

[brittle finch]

On the demons

[random sand]

ah. i can't see that being a problem tbh. one shot from the ssg heats it up

[brittle finch]

Console users are fucked if Doom gets any faster paced cus they’ll be stuck at like 40 FPS 😭

[brittle finch]

Anything to not have to deal with armor fr

[obsidian shard]

150% game speed and still at 60 fps (series S and X)

Optimized asf for current hardware

[uneven dragon]

Am i missing something I’ve had multiple times where I’ve fired the BFC at a large crowd and it’s killed nothing lol

[uneven dragon]

Man this is difficult as fuck lol

This is my first time playing the ripatorium and idk how to do multiple rounds so I just did the last one and oh boy

Used whatever the lightning runs is and dread mace

[brittle finch]

Wooow

Surprising

[topaz oasis]

Hmm

Is it really that hard?

Doesnt sound that bad on paper

Let me try it

[uneven dragon]

last wave was pretty bad on nightmare

i did also lower the parry window by 1 from the nightmare default and play at 110% but i doubt that makes much of a difference TBH

[topaz oasis]

looooool

Dont mess with the parry window slider

The game becomes a bugfest when you do

You get hit all the time even tho you time your parries perfctly once you go below the default preset

[brittle finch]

All of a sudden my thermals went down by like 7C

Is the final level that well optimized?

[uneven dragon]

i wasnt rly having an issue :p

[topaz oasis]

i honestly hated the game when I tried playing with anything lower than the default parry window lol

this is also gonna be my first time playing ripatorium

saw Hugo playing it last thursday on stream

looked pretty fun

I'M INTERESTED NOW

[random sand]

The explosion? Or did the arrow just miss

[random sand]

Bruh all of doom is optimized by fucking wizards

[brittle finch]

True, but the final level only has my shit running in the high 60s and low 70s

[random sand]

not as much to render ig

[topaz oasis]

@uneven dragon that was too FRICKING ez https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN5i-36olYY

A joke even

I expected more

I'm disappointed

[brittle finch]

Somehow you can run this amazing game with Ray Tracing by default at 50 FPS on 1440P Ultra with a 5060

Gearbox could never

😭

[random sand]

why tf are you so fast. faster gamespeed?

[uneven dragon]

OH LOL

i had that same bug

[random sand]

hell, even on low settings it looks good (i know because my pc is dogshit and can't run the game on anything other than that if i want stable frames)

[topaz oasis]

yeah, it's on 150%

man this too crazy

[brittle finch]

Upscale the game and you can get like 60 FPS probably on like a $150 GPU

[random sand]

and difficulty? nightmare?

[topaz oasis]

60 enemies is a little too much for such a small arena

nightmare, yeah

[brittle finch]

Nightmare is overrated tbh

[random sand]

i have an rtx 2060

[brittle finch]

Not thaaat bad

[random sand]

well, it is the hardest standard difficulty

[random sand]

eh. it gets the job done... kinda

[brittle finch]

I meant that the game isn’t that hard anyways unless you mess with other difficulty settings

I just like UV cus it’s the standard

[random sand]

well yeah sure but not everyone wants to mess with 'em. nightmare does punish mistakes pretty well

[brittle finch]

Taking 80 damage from an offscreen enemy ain’t a mistake tho

[random sand]

turn on the visual cues

[brittle finch]

Should’ve used wall hacks or something 😭

[brittle finch]

Are they on by default?

Or do I have to manually do it?

[random sand]

nope. they let you see incoming projectiles that come from any direction. been many times i've seen it show green coming from behind and i flick behind me to parry it

[brittle finch]

I have a 5050 that I overclocked to basically be a 5060 and you’d think that sounds like it’d be really hard on the GPU, but I stay at like 70C (cus the difference between the two cards is that tiny)

In terms of gaming performance the difference is tiny at least

Like 15-20%

[brittle finch]

Oh sick

[mystic barn]

I’m glad you found it challenging! Until 2.0 comes out, individual rounds will have to be entered manually. I’ll send the code once 2.0 comes out so that won’t have to be an issue anymore

[topaz oasis]

@mystic barn @uneven dragon did only the 5th round at 150% speed because I dont know how to set up rounds either and I'm honestly too lazy to do it anyways https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK0RO4dsBaQ

but jesus christ, I'm never trying something like this again lol

[uneven dragon]

ayyy nice

it took me like 40 minutes at 110% i can't imagine how difficult it is on 150% 😭

[mystic barn]

Got another one if you're keen. I'm considering making it my new Round IV, but I'm not sure. Anyway, this one's called "Pincushion":
10 Soldiers
2 Chaingunner Soldiers
6 Stone Imps
6 Imp Stalkers
3 Nightmare Imp Stalkers
3 Hell Knights
3 Battle Knights
3 Pinky Riders
3 Armored Pinky Riders
2 Arachnotrons
2 Armored Arachnotrons
3 Mancubus
3 Mortar Mancubus
3 Armored Mancubus
3 Revenant
3 Whiplashes
2 Cyberdemons

[uneven dragon]

ooh ill have to give that a go tomorrow

[mystic barn]

It's doable without BFC too

[topaz oasis]

same

[topaz oasis]

you know what?

fuck it

I was gonna go catch some sleep before work but my adrenaline and salt levels are too high after that 5th round of ahzrak's last stand lol

imma give it a go rn

[mystic barn]

Fuck yes, that's a real Slayer right there

[topaz oasis]

I'm salty because I couldn't beat it no BFG

[mystic barn]

Forfeiting sleep for destruction is unproblematically manly

[topaz oasis]

5 mins and 1 respawn too?

[mystic barn]

That's the one

[topaz oasis]

hmm

this is 54 enemies

[mystic barn]

You sure you got em all? Should be 60

[topaz oasis]

oh I forgor the imp stalkers

mb

now that was fun

@cloud snow we've got some flail gameplay

crap

sorry, wrong ethan lol

@mystic barn https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FwbTFElExo

[mystic barn]

Dude, fuck yeah, that was kickass

[topaz oasis]

any other suggestions?

[mystic barn]

I haven't done any other encounters just yet, but if I do come up with something, I'll give you a yell

[topaz oasis]

sounds like a plan

[obsidian shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1182151938314358856/1437469826124873728/e29555092148556a86366c6c25035dbf_original.jpg?ex=69135b99&is=69120a19&hm=b0fe5cefefb10f94506836ddc1f012081ad45bb48b12715f48091008c4ddc808&

Its beautiful

[hazy pasture]

Peam

[obsidian shard]

ALL Previous Stretch goals have been unlocked so 3 new ones were introduced

The Royal Atlan at 165,000

The Komodo at 180,000

And Prince Ahzrak Himself at 200,000

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1182151938314358856/1437469826523336724/3536e87f9978e3a854cc21af371e61c0_original.jpg?ex=69135b99&is=69120a19&hm=7d2e9573d057c09c18632faeacb795800ac71dd5aa8022fab091d6fd4c4f0310&

[stark bough]

Dude what

Man I gotta go find 450 dollars somewhere I dont want to miss this

[obsidian shard]

If the Stretch goal is reached you can buy it separately!

[harsh egret]

hell yeah

none of those are kickstarter exclusive right

[obsidian shard]

I don't think so

They never aid anything bout that

[stark bough]

I think theres two slayer minis that are exclusive but everything else isn't

[harsh egret]

and the dice trays

and one more thing i think

[obsidian shard]

1 DOOMGUY mini
1 Slayer Mini
The 2 Dice trays
The Serrat Expansion

[harsh egret]

i should be able to get the exclusive stuff (not the dice trays) in a couple days
and then ill get everything else when they are out next year

[obsidian shard]

And The TDA and 93' Standee Add-on sets

[harsh egret]

tbh i dont really care about those much

[obsidian shard]

same, all I'm all About da Minis!

[harsh egret]

yup

i wonder what the azhrak one is gonna look like

cuz that one u posted on twitter its clearly a placeholder

[obsidian shard]

Im wondering if it'll be a "3 in 1" Ahzrak set!

Base, Enhanced, then Winged?

[harsh egret]

would be cool

[final dune]

So where is the control room inside the Atlan? Is it in the head or the chest?

[random sand]

I believe it's in the head

Similar to the jaegers in pacific rim

[cerulean pagoda]

hi

[uncut needle]

enhanced azhrak with zero slowdown is nuts

i keep forgetting his attack patterns lol

Also theory time.

They give ahzrak wings, and Serrat shows up. I choose to believe there was a dragon phase that got scrapped

[green estuary]

definitely not

[uncut needle]

I'm basing this off nothing other than there isn't a dragon boss fight

[random sand]

No

[queen spade]

Playing California girls while playing doom is tuff

[frail bloom]

Chest

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/trauma-soldier-war-war-trauma-kommanderwar-gif-18301971837004770053

[obsidian shard]

lmao

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/bahaha-lol-hd-gif-minion-minion-laugh-gif-2154867417577880306

[alpine pilot]

WHOM DOOM

[warm ibex]

They always ask where doom, but never how's doom

it's a damn shame, really

[frail bloom]

Tragic

[cerulean pagoda]

next person in chat will probably ask (WHERE DLC)

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-saul-loop-3d-edit-gif-24518425

[harsh egret]

when dlc?

[frail bloom]

When dlc?

[solar spoke]

Who dlc?

[unkempt dragon]

why dlc?

[frail bloom]

Where dlc?

[unkempt dragon]

Lol let's just do this everyday when someone asks when

[frail bloom]

Agreed

[elder raven]

Hi. My name is DLC. im finally here for you guys, hope i dont disappoint

[frail bloom]

I'm dissappointed

[solid nacelle]

I liked the part where Marok said "hey guys it's me Marok I'm gonna have major plot relevance in the future just wait and see"

[frail bloom]

Is that the part where he growls

[obsidian shard]

"Marok, You go right,
Valen, You go left,
and Slayer... DOOM"

[solid nacelle]

Then he does the iconic

For all to see

This is the moment where all the lets-players get up from their gaming chairs and start clapping

[brittle finch]

16,500 or 165,000?

[obsidian shard]

165,000

[brittle finch]

Oh okie

[obsidian shard]

thanks for pointing it out, I just fixed it

[cerulean pagoda]

I discovered new animation cancelling tech

I'll be ready to post it on yt when it uploads

[obsidian shard]

hell yeah, i will be waiting excitedly!

[strong moth]

My signature animation cancel is getting f***ing wrecked by a Cacodemon insta-blast

[fervent maple]

https://tenor.com/view/kaboom-boom-nuke-nuclear-bomb-gif-20734003

Average Cacodemon experience

[obsidian shard]

Fast Projectile Speed makes them shoot instantly

[green estuary]

it's not the projectile speed
they have a bug where they completely lose the charge-up frames on that attack, so it just spits out the laser the instant it sees you

[obsidian shard]

Ya ive gotten the bug too then

[queen spade]

Playing "tip toe thru' the tulips with me" and playing Doom Dark ages is so tuff, trust

[wheat sigil]

is it faster than waiting for the reload though? because iirc i didn't find it to be, but i may just be bad

if you can do it while hitting an enemy with your melees though...

[meager vortex]

hey guys do you know this? upcoming ripatorium2.0 update we can use pass code or pass word share with friends but it original is classic doom public server code

or private server code

[brittle finch]

Probably not

They’re really good at not letting you abuse stuff like that nowadays

They made it so that if you reload cancel the super shotgun you can’t shoot for a couple seconds after anyways

[barren wagon]

does anyone know how to unlock perfection skin in tda i did the milestone mission but it didnt appear in the skins section

[mighty abyss]

I believe u have to allow some time for it to appear. Make sure ur account is linked too

[dusk nest]

I have a question: is there elite doom tda controller?

[alpine pilot]

DOOT

[half marlin]

how's dlc?

[obsidian shard]

What's DlC?

[harsh egret]

wait, there's dlc?

[obsidian shard]

Wheres Samir???

[frail bloom]

Ye where is he

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-impossible-marvel-shocked-gif-15104180

[sacred vine]

This game has the best design out of all the games so far I. My opinion

Mods please I’m sorry

DM me so I can make it up to you guys

[unkempt dragon]

knock it off

[sacred vine]

Oh man

Mb

[sacred vine]

Am I forgiven?

Doom the dark ages is so good

Top 1 in my books

[frail bloom]

Uh ok

Guys do you hear Bilge punks from legacy of rust in into the void

Or am I coo coo crazy

Nvm

But it does sound similar

Legacy of rust should have some tracks remade

[wheat sigil]

are they mutually exclusive...

[frail bloom]

Hm, didn't consider that

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-old-man-angry-crazy-gif-14817968

[harsh egret]

why, u want it too?

[hard thistle]

I finished dark ages

[grave dock]

Congrats 🎉

[hard thistle]

I’m sad it’s over

[obsidian shard]

real

[hard thistle]

Game was fun as hell tho. May beat eternal for my favorite doom game

[frail bloom]

For now

You can try the ripatorium, and then the 2.0 version in a couple weeks

[hard thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-the-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages-doomguy-gif-15980962764398322199

[hard thistle]

Oh nice

I thought you had to have ps plus to play that

[frail bloom]

Oh no it's free

[hard thistle]

Hell yeah

[frail bloom]

Here's a preset to start you off

(9)"Babylon Brigade" loadout:

Respawn count: 3

30 soldiers
10 heated metal shield soldiers
5 energy shield soldiers
3 chaingunners
9 imps
2 cyberdemons
1 cyberdemon leader

In a couple weeks all I have to do is send you a code and it'll be less time consuming

[harsh egret]

Unironically on console i feel like it would take longer to write the codes than do the all the demons urself

i guess it depends how long the codes are lol

[warm ibex]

I feel like anyone that owns a modern console should be able to type fast by now

[harsh egret]

Words yeah but a code i feel like could be more tedious but I guess I could be wrong

[warm ibex]

I don't know why a code would be any harder

you gotta learn how to type on this shit if you plan on sticking with xbox or ps

[obsidian shard]

Xbox controller Keyboard Attachment:

[warm ibex]

now we're cookin with gas

[brittle finch]

Mine is still 2016

For the modern games

My overall favorite is the original

:3

[hard thistle]

Mine is dark ages. I like the world and the demons a lot. The soundtrack is perfect to me too

[hard thistle]

Understandable. Og is amazing

[obsidian shard]

Same!

TDA OST has some of the best Build up ever

[hard thistle]

I want to post a video here

[obsidian shard]

Infernal Chasm also Just Solos

[hard thistle]

The cthulu is my favorite part of the game

[obsidian shard]

#videos

[hard thistle]

The cutscenes and the gameplay is great

[obsidian shard]

Yes

[brittle finch]

My favorite thing about dark ages is how it’s a modern game that doesn’t run like shit

[hard thistle]

Yeah. It’s the only doom game I’m actually good at. I played all the others but always died a shitton

[elder raven]

i have my quarrels with dark ages but i love it

if i didnt like it though (i do) i still like to acknowledge that you can tell these games are made with love and passion by its dev team and you dont really get that nowadays with modern games

[brittle finch]

This is why I’ll release the bogus, in honor of you.

:3

[elder raven]

https://tenor.com/view/punchout-punch-out-punchout-wii-punch-out-wii-super-macho-man-gif-2121777417417178191

[obsidian shard]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1274237827592228865/1430735344609001514/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp_1.gif

[mystic barn]

Bro’s losing it

[frail bloom]

I took back my message hold on

But what I did learn

Legacy of rust deserves some spotlight

More then the classics

[solar spoke]

the touch pad on a dualsense makes it a hell of a lot easier and there's still the little xbox controller keyboard accessory for underside controller port. Even then, consoles are very intuitive. It's just typing smack in a multiplayer lobby that's a pain lol

[uneven dragon]

just pure insanity posting

[frail bloom]

[umbral flint]

Should i buy the game on G2A?

[vague mica]

Has anyone else noticed that their map doesn't work anymore and it's replaced with the jukebox now? But when I try a new save it's there? I wish my main game that I 100%'d would actually function

[strong moth]

I heard that starting a fresh save from an empty slot on the game, checking the menu from there to confirm Ripatorium is gone, and then going back into your main file, should “reset the game” back into Campaign. Sent this to another player and he said it fixed it

[vague mica]

I tried that, right after I cleared the first level on a new save, I got out of it, went to the save files menu, and then I exited the game, and then I went back in and went to my main save and it still didn't work

I think I may have messed it up

[vague mica]

Forgot to hit reply, but yeah that's what I did

[cerulean pagoda]

you can slice the touchpad around to make it move hell quick or attach a keyboard to it on ps5

[frail bloom]

Nah us real ones select each individual character on the console

[frail bloom]

Nah almost 9 times outta 10 the code is easier to put in, you don't have to double check and scroll and allat. On pc obv y'all are just gonna copy paste but on console typing each letter does not take long. Sure it isn't wholly convenient but I'll take it over configuring a loadout for like 3 min

[solar cairn]

One month before TGA

[topaz oasis]

dog

what the heck

I tried to play dank ages at normal speed again after beating it on 150% and it's just impossible

it's so unbearable, it feels like I'm playing underwater

THIS IS A CURSE

[cerulean pagoda]

I used to do that for 2 years before knowing about the touchpad

[cerulean pagoda]

It happens

[obsidian shard]

Now try 50%

[mystic barn]

With auto-sprint turned off

[obsidian shard]

And Slow-mo on Melee and parry

[sage schooner]

I’m baffled by the “normal speed”.

[obsidian shard]

huh

I think its Perfect for Standard

150% is wayyy to fast for MOST players

its also why we have to options to choose, so it aint that big of a deal

[sage schooner]

Yeah playing it on 120-150 for so long probably has skewed what I’m used to 🤣. Definitely happy we have the ability to customize that aspect

[broken anvil]

I think it goes with the theme. Stand and fight

[meager vortex]

max slider is perpect!!!

[topaz oasis]

WHAT

i didnt know auto-sprint was a thing

thanks for the intel tho

[broken anvil]

Auto sprint and remove the blur thing, that's the proper setting

[charred oasis]

Just a question in the audio menu (the mix option specifically) what does off (bypass) mean?

[onyx topaz]

they could've just had autosprint and used the sprint button for something else

like maybe switching melee weapons or shield effects or something

[onyx topaz]

I'm thinking about atomic heart which just had your guy automatically move faster when running straight forward, so they could use the spare button for a directional dodge for the melee combat

[solid nacelle]

They're gonna be adding that to the game soon anyway

[alpine pilot]

Where doom

[solar cairn]

2026

[elder raven]

who doom

[stark thistle]

hi

help pls 🙁

I just received the game Doom: The Dark Ages on the official Bethesda.net website, but I can’t transfer it to Steam — I get an error saying there’s nothing to transfer, even though it appears in my transaction history.

[frosty roost]

make a ticket to bethesda on their website, they should be able to help you 🙂

[stark thistle]

Oki, ty

[errant pagoda]

Nvidia app just gave me an Onyx skin code, but I already have it, so it's free for taking:
||2XH6-3E3M-H92F-7FF3-CP4G||

[stark thistle]

Wait, no full game receive from Nvidia ? is that just a skin ???

Lol, gj Nvidia

[meager vortex]

you think free cd key lol hahahahaha

https://tenor.com/view/kekw-twitch-twitchtv-twitch-emote-kek-gif-19085736

[meager vortex]

only you buy rtx 5090 series gpu you can get a premium edition cd key

[frosty roost]

got it!

[red peak]

Blur?

[broken anvil]

Motion blur stuff off. It's annoying

[umbral flint]

I had the game on game pass but im thinking of getting it on steam, will the achievements and skins save?

[green estuary]

from gamepass to steam you mean?
not that I'm aware of

[umbral flint]

Ok thanks

Even if i log in with my bethesda account?

[green estuary]

actually maybe the skins will stay
but steam achievements are tied to steam progress

[umbral flint]

Alright thanks

[strong moth]

Didn’t see if this was already asked, but is there a Slayer’s Club stream tomorrow?

[green estuary]

I dunno

[frail bloom]

Submit a ticket at bethesda.net

[unkempt dragon]

I'm going to reiterate what Samir said. We aren't able to fix these issues for you unfortunately

[inland beacon]

Dark ages dlc better bring back pain elementals

[frail bloom]

Preach

I hope they do but up to them

Cosmic pain elemental

[strong moth]

I sorta want a Cosmic Carcass lol

[frail bloom]

Just gotta figure out how they would fit

[green estuary]

[frail bloom]

Can't be as bad as a komodo

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/jensen-ackles-dean-winchester-lame-gif-21030272

[frail bloom]

Hato thinks he's aura farming

[harsh egret]

wat

[frail bloom]

Wat

[harsh egret]

anyway do we know if theres a stream tmr

[frail bloom]

No

Yet

[harsh egret]

josh asked hugo about if he wanted to do some dlc tease "next week" instead, which would be this week

but i guess we find out tmr

[frail bloom]

Instead of what

[harsh egret]

instead of doing it that stream

[frail bloom]

Well he did last week didn't he?

The spear thing

[harsh egret]

yes ik but doesnt that imply a stream this week too

they arent gonna do a whole stream only if they have a small dlc tease to tell are they

which they always do lol

[frail bloom]

Not talking abt the stream but he already made a small tease

[harsh egret]

small part of me hopes for no stream cuz i gotta be up a lil early

[frail bloom]

Oh so you're gonna bring the rest of us down

Maybe sleep earlier bud

[harsh egret]

yh there wont be a stream because imma talk to josh and tell him to delay it

just for me

[frail bloom]

Don't do it Josh don't invest in the hato

The hato is bad

I hope he teases a huge dlc snippet and you miss it live cuz you're sleeping

[harsh egret]

nah fk sleep bruh

[frail bloom]

Doom doom must consume

[harsh egret]

yes.

[frail bloom]

Yes

[cerulean pagoda]

Hi

[obsidian shard]

Yoo whats Up Gold! Whats poppin?

[unkempt dragon]

Hi gold and jay

[green estuary]

damn they dissappeared

crazy

[unkempt dragon]

Hi Katsu

[green estuary]

what's up man

looks like I dissapeared also lol

[unkempt dragon]

😭

everyone ghosted

[obsidian shard]

My apologies, Other accommodations had acquired my attention

Otherwise I am doing swell, I hope you are doing rather Exquisite as well!

[wicked shoal]

Should I get TDA when I get a new computer next year?

[harsh egret]

yes

[random sand]

Yes

[tired stirrup]

I can't get the Essential Armor achievement despite haven gotten all 10 demonic essence armor

All levels show 100% completion

[mystic barn]

Is Hugo likely to stream tomorrow?

[green estuary]

you mean today?
no idea

[harsh egret]

if there is anything im sure they will say smth sometime before the stream

[ionic glade]

Started playing with no HUD and it’s great, only thing I don’t like is how it removes the melee charges from the reticle which is a strange design choice.

Also, while I love infernal chasm, I feel like unchained predator would’ve felt more appropriate during reckoning especially since Ahzrak and the Witch act like cornered prey in the final battle. Would’ve come full circle with the first level similar to Eternal with Hell on Earth and Final Sin.

[unkempt dragon]

There is a stream today fyi

@frail bloom

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-shit-gif-1557601506207836970

do u know what about?

[unkempt dragon]

No, as I've said before I don't ask that stuff

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/repo-rugrat-baby-gif-7909659006817253532

I wasn't prepared for this lol

I gotta record gameplay

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/hugo-martin-doom-eternal-dark-ages-happy-yay-gif-13218051490774665565

[green estuary]

you know
some times when I go to bethesda's YT page to check on the stream, I just think about how much bethesda screwed over this game

[obsidian shard]

Wdym?

The only thing I can think of is Trailer 2 was poorly advertised (Although the Advertisement was insanely cool)

Dev Direct and First trailer were very well done and organized imo

[green estuary]

mostly comes down to the absurd launch price

[obsidian shard]

I agree the launch price was way to much

[green estuary]

in the US, 70 dollars is a bit excessive but still just 10 bucks more than the norm
in europe and elsewhere prices work out to something like 90-100

[obsidian shard]

Same price as eternal or 10$ more would be fine

[green estuary]

it's just sabotage of the highest order

literally just price the game 60 dollars across the board, and it sells so much better

even with the game pass availability

I know when I looked at the game's price being 70 bucks, the first thing I thought was "hell naw"

[random sand]

the launch price was the same as most other titles that released this year. only ones that were cheaper were stuff like silksong. in fact, idk if this is international but doom tda is cheaper than most other games released this year

[green estuary]

just because it's supposedly the norm doesn't mean it's justified

[obsidian shard]

True but Katsu's point still is there

[random sand]

no ofc not. but i wouldn't say blaming doom tda for it is right. the prices have been insane for years. spider-man 2 costed $90 for me

that released 2 years ago

[green estuary]

there is no way you can convince me that they wouldn't have both sold more copies and made more money at the end of it all had they just priced the game at 60 bucks

[random sand]

i honestly dunno about that because the game as a whole has been controversial in an objective setting. it might've sold a little better maybe but not by a whole lot

[harsh egret]

for sure it would

[hard thistle]

As far as I know TDA didn't sell poorly or anything.

[green estuary]

the "controversy" surrounding this game has been overblown by a cartoonish amount
as far as I know it has damn near the exact same steam review score on launch that eternal did

[harsh egret]

didnt sell poorly, but sold worse than eternal

and im not sure what their bar is

[random sand]

according to google it sold around 800k

[harsh egret]

bruh

[green estuary]

nobody really knows
that website just makes shit up

[hard thistle]

Eternal was a special case, TBF. COVID-19 pulled a lot of weight there.

TDA had 3 million players within its first week, which is 7 times more than Eternal had when it launched. Granted, a lot of those players were GamePass subscribers, but Microsoft knows this and intends for it.

[harsh egret]

yeah i mean maybe they are fine with it

[random sand]

both doom eternal and doom the dark ages are very positive but doom eternal has more reviews

which i suppose makes sense since it came out 5 years ago

[green estuary]

yes

[hard thistle]

To my understanding TDA was a success for id. I can't speak to its prices in other countries, though.

[random sand]

it's $80 here i live. that's generous compared to other shit. $90 is the standard here

[obsidian shard]

Also was the Biggest launch for a DOOM game ever

[obsidian shard]

120$ for Silent Hill F!

[green estuary]

also not a great comparison
considering a bunch of people got to play it for free essentially

[harsh egret]

^

[random sand]

that's $90 for me

[obsidian shard]

It's not free if people pay for Gamepass

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/falling-drunk-shocked-surprised-gif-15546336

[harsh egret]

is it the most financially successful doom game launch? i doubt it

[green estuary]

you know what I mean

[harsh egret]

is it my favorite doom game tho? hell yes it is

[random sand]

Mine too

Didn't think eternal could be topped but it was

[harsh egret]

where was it 120

its the same price as tda for me, and its on 80 euros here in europe (93 usd)

[green estuary]

80 euros man 😭

shit's wild

[harsh egret]

yeah kinda crazy

[random sand]

Think the most i've payed for a game was like $100 for mario kart world

[green estuary]

if we're talking in strictly american dollar terms I bought my copy on sale for literally half of that

[harsh egret]

hence why the collectors edition was worth it for me to get and i somehow didnt have to pay any import fees on it unlike many others

[green estuary]

with very few exceptions, I don't really go above 30 bucks when I buy games

[harsh egret]

damn

[green estuary]

TDA was one of them

[green estuary]

hey you can get some nasty deals if you wait
cyberpunk was on sale for 20 bucks not too long ago

Steam W

[harsh egret]

oh yeah for sure

[green estuary]

just got turbo overkill for like 17 bucks

[harsh egret]

im just not the type to wait for things to go on sale, i like playing things on launch most of the time

[green estuary]

part of my brain wants to play stuff on launch

but then I remember that games are in much better states (both price-wise and bug/functionality-wise) a few months afterwards

and then I also remember that I don't have the money to play stuff on launch

[harsh egret]

ye true

[meager vortex]

ripatorium2.0 update waiting

[harsh egret]

[green estuary]

TDA is the most I've spent on a game in a loooong time

[green estuary]

keep waiting, buddy

[harsh egret]

it can launch anytime from next week onwards

not today!

[green estuary]

I'm honestly surprised they're streaming today

although I hope hugo picks a more manageable eternal mod so that we don't just see him die a bunch lol

[harsh egret]

yeah i have no clue what they r gonna stream outside of eternal mods

cuz the ng+ stuff is confirmed not out this year so nothing to showcase or anything, and they just showed ripatorium 2.0

[green estuary]

I know better than to expect some new tda info so I'm gonna hold my horses there

[thin hound]

Anyone else seen Predator: Badlands? It felt kind of like a DOOM movie, and I think both franchises have a lot in common

[green estuary]

nah I'm not really interested in modern takes on franchises I like

I enjoy the original predator movies too much to get my opinion on it ruined

[thin hound]

Isn’t that what DOOM is though?

[meager vortex]

doom movie is failed

[green estuary]

in terms of series reboots, doom is literal lightning in a bottle

[thin hound]

Yeah I agree, which is why movies like Hellboy or Predator are the best closest things to good DOOM movies

[green estuary]

there is not a single game franchise that has ever done a modern iteration better than this one

[meager vortex]

best doom movie is doom 2016 ending credit scene

[green estuary]

I can't think of a movie that has done it just as well either

[warm ibex]

Would you count franchises without considerable gaps between the older and "modern" entries? I'd say resident evil did a damn good job at reinventing itself with RE7

[thin hound]

Or that one DOOM trailer with real filming

[green estuary]

nah
there was just what, 5 years between RE6 and RE7, right?

[warm ibex]

yeah that sounds correct

[green estuary]

that's not a reboot, that's just taking the series in a different direction

[warm ibex]

2016 isn't a reboot either though tbf

[green estuary]

I'm not sure exactly what the word is

[warm ibex]

neither am I

it's a sort of half reboot

[green estuary]

but whatever 2016 did for the franchise, nothing else has come close

[warm ibex]

just you wait

pacman is coming back

[green estuary]

lol

[harsh egret]

pacman my beloved

[thin hound]

The new poster is PacMan on a pile of dead ghosts

[harsh egret]

cinema

[hard thistle]

A soft reboot.

[green estuary]

yeah, that

[hard thistle]

Doom 2016 is a soft reboot. A soft reboot meaning that the game rebooted the franchise's style, tone, and gameplay, without necessarily wiping the actual narrative clean.

[thin hound]

I don’t know, I dislike the idea of carrying all that old baggage

[green estuary]

there's not really much baggage to carry tbh

[warm ibex]

and here we are a decade later, where carrying that "old baggage" worked wonders

[green estuary]

man fights demons, kills demons, comes back to see his family and pet bunny have been killed by demons, now man is extremely angry at demons and kills even more

while using awesome guns n stuff

[harsh egret]

honestly the more i think about it the more i love the decision for the DLC to make cutscenes mostly in first person, more immersive and so on
i loved how 2016 did these things

[thin hound]

We literally see the original games in universe in DOOM Eternal, so clearly they are not canon, just game recreations loosely based on actual events

[harsh egret]

though i still appreciate what they did with tda

[hard thistle]

I agree RE7 was a very successful revival for Resident Evil, but I think Doom has done a better job of maintaining that revival. They followed up Doom 2016 with two sequels that are both incredible games with their own unique identities from 2016 itself.

Resident Evil 8 was good and I liked it, but it was a pretty divisive game, and Capcom has mainly been filling in RE's release schedule with remakes. We are only now finally getting RE9.

[green estuary]

I did enjoy crouching behind samuel's ass and staring at it throughout the whole cutscene lmao

[harsh egret]

hahahah

[green estuary]

[hard thistle]

I wouldn't take this too seriously.

[green estuary]

and I can't believe I just learned fairly recently that you can actually shoot samuel before the cutscene starts

[thin hound]

I live for DOOM, my friend

[harsh egret]

tf

[hard thistle]

I don't mean Doom itself, I mean these easter eggs. The Fortress is full of easter eggs that I don't think are meant to be indications of canon.

[warm ibex]

I'm not so sure that non-canon secret rewards contribute to the lore

especially when it's confirmed that Doom, Doom II and Doom 64 are canon to modern Doon

[green estuary]

yeah before your weapon gets lowered, you can blast him
except he's covered in some sort of energy shield, and he tells you to "save your ammunition"

pretty sick

[harsh egret]

thats cool lmao

[thin hound]

By the way, I believe DOOM The Dark Ages takes place between 1994 and 2025, what do you guys think?

[green estuary]

more specifically, it takes place between 1994 and 2016

timeline-wise, at least

[thin hound]

The first DOOM is in the 2140s also

[hard thistle]

And don't get me wrong, I am a huge RE fan. But I think Doom has been more confident in its direction after Doom 2016, whereas Capcom is struggling with where RE's story is going.

[warm ibex]

I think you're just kinda sayin stuff man

[thin hound]

I feel like too many people take the Dark Ages title too literally

[hard thistle]

TDA happens almost 100 million years before Doom 2016.

[green estuary]

damn

[thin hound]

But the slayer was an adult on Earth in the 90s?

[green estuary]

so valen is 100 million+ years ago in eternal?
didn't know regular sentinels lived that long

[thin hound]

Humans didn’t even exist

[warm ibex]

Classic Doom takes place in a different universe from TDA, 2016 and Eternal. The classic games, as far as I'm aware, don't take place in the year they released (not that it matters since they're in an entirely separate universe)

[thin hound]

Yeah but why does the Slayer have a 90s computer in the Fortress of DOOM?

[warm ibex]

as an easter egg

[green estuary]

I actually thought this whole time that they were in the same universe

sadge

[thin hound]

I swear, the lore of DOOM rivals Five Nights at Freddy’s in it’s complicatedness

[warm ibex]

it really doesn't, you just have goobers that try to make it more complicated than it really is

[hard thistle]

Classic Doom takes place in a different Earthly Realm from the modern games, and they have no confirmed dates. The Earthly Realms aren't "synced" or anything, so just because it was 21XX in that Realm doesn't mean it's that same year in the modern one.

[hard thistle]

They don't. Sentinels are just humans. Valen living that long is unnatural and seems to be either because Hell is lengthening his lifespan or he's cursed, or some bullshit like that.

[hard thistle]

Keep in mind in TDA Novik has been king for around 40 years, and the Codex says this is among the longest a king has reigned in Argent D'Nur.

[green estuary]

just standard doom nonsense

[warm ibex]

I definitely agree for the most part, although I think Capcom's struggle comes more from not knowing how to advance the story past the old characters. Or knowing if fans would accept it

[thin hound]

The fact that no one can agree on what’s fact in this universe is proof of how complicated DOOM is

[warm ibex]

That's not at all what's happening

[green estuary]

people could probably agree (me included) if they actually paid attention

except I don't really pay attention lol

so I just kinda roll with it

[thin hound]

Yeah there are a lot of codexes to read

[hard thistle]

I agree. I miss when RE had an overarching story it was building up through individual games. Nowadays every cliffhanger is abandoned and they are getting wishy-washy over if new games should be new stories or keep tying into the others.

I don't blame anyone for being confused by Doom's lore, the Codexes are needlessly complicated and wordy. But there are clear answers to many of these questions if you dig deep enough.
(Or let someone else dig deep enough and then just ask him.)

[warm ibex]

It definitely doesn't help that most prefer to ignore the codex (and sometimes the story as a whole) and then still try to engage in lore discussions

[thin hound]

And some of the codexes have unreliable narrators

[hard thistle]

This is especially troublesome with Eternal. 2016 and TDA's Codexes are absolutely supplementary, but in Eternal a lot of crucial info is from the Codex. Codex files are filling in places where cutscenes would normally give us info; the story is designed for you to read every Codex file as you grab them. Which most people don't do.

[wintry forge]

Most answers people ask are in the codex of Eternal. It can be extensive, but it’s all there to read

[wintry forge]

I think the only unreliable narrators are the Book of the Seraphs and Samuel

[hard thistle]

That's the issue with relying too much on lore documents and text in a game like this. Whether you like it or not, Doom fans play Doom for killing shit, not reading. Most of them aren't keen to read; hell, many of them haven't even been convinced they should care about the story at all.

TDA's way of telling the story was much better.

[harsh egret]

i feel like they are slowly tryina go back to 2016's style of storytelling, starting with the tda dlc

and honestly i hope thats the case imo

[wintry forge]

I think that’s why they’re making the cutscenes mostly 1st person. A lot of people didn’t like the cinematic approach in a Doom game. Likely a response to that criticism

[harsh egret]

at least find some middleground

[hard thistle]

Well I hope they don't pander too much to that band of people. TDA's cutscenes fucking rocked and there was a lot of effort put into the Slayer's emotions and mannerisms for us to see.

[harsh egret]

a response to that criticism and also accepting what worked really well, i mean look at the steam reviews for 2016 lol

[thin hound]

My canon is that the Slayer was just a normal buff dude on Earth in his 30s, and in the 90s a few demons came to Earth and killed Daisy (and maybe also his wife and son). This made him enraged, so he went through a demon portal and ended up in Argent D’Nur somehow after killing demons. Then the sentinels found him and he was given strength and immortality from the Divinity Machine.

[warm ibex]

I think that spawns its own unique problem - people who do care for the lore and story but don't read the codex entries or invest much time into engaging with the cutscenes

[hard thistle]

I don't mind them getting closer to 2016's style as long as it makes sense and fits the story, rather than to satisfy people who barely care about the story to begin with. I loved TDA showing us a more human Slayer and showing us how he struggles, and I don't want to lose that.

[wintry forge]

I completely agree. A balance between cinematics and first person cutscenes is fine, but the cinematics work imo

[hard thistle]

The whole sequence with Enhanced Ahzrak killing Serrat and the Slayer getting up, that is my favorite moment in the franchise and it would not be nearly as cool if it were directed like Doom 2016.

[thin hound]

It was very emotional

[wintry forge]

Still think the Ship Hijack cinematic is underrated

[warm ibex]

I hope they're cautious with accepting "criticism" going forward. From what I can tell, a lot of TDA's misguided post-launch changes (that they're now admittedly backtracking on) were made to please critics that never really understood the game in the first place

[hard thistle]

Also Ahzrak's death. Us seeing the Slayer from Ahzrak's POV, him looming over us and swinging the flail as we hear Ahzrak's screams turn from defiance to pain - it is fucking awesome and it would've been totally mundane if it were from a first person view like 2016.

[wintry forge]

People complain about “walls of text” then turn around and complain about too much cutscenes in Doom. It’s silly really. The codexes work imo and serve their purpose. A balance between codexes and cutscenes works

[hard thistle]

Some of these changes make sense, but I do worry about them pandering to criticism. Fans are not great judges of quality. Fans are idiots. There is a reason fanservice has a negative connotation.

People make jokes about "oh they should hire m0nologue to write the story" because I'm super into it. And they are fun and I appreciate that. But realistically if I had written The Dark Ages the story would not be as good as what we actually got. I wouldn't have come up with the Cosmic Realm and I would've been caught up in trying to tie everything together instead of tell a good story in its own right. At the end of the day I'm a fan and fans have a warped perception of what is good in the thing they like.

[wintry forge]

I don’t want them to pander to criticism so much. They didn’t so much with Eternal until TAG2, but still largely stood with their philosophy

[hard thistle]

If fans designed TDA's gameplay it would just be Doom Eternal 2.

[elder raven]

it really humanized him imo