the-dark-ages

[warm ibex]

TAG2's balancing is admittedly super interesting

[green estuary]

literally lmao

[frail bloom]

My console gonna explode

So much gibs

[foggy breach]

What about the turret?

[frail bloom]

What abt it

Oh wait it does nothing

[foggy breach]

Sleeping on it fr.

[frail bloom]

I don't think it's gonna sweep 60 imp stalkers for me

[green estuary]

they just kept beating you over the head with fodder spam to annoy you into using the hammer

[warm ibex]

but that wouldn't be as much of a problem if we actually battled entire armies of demons!!!! (the lack of enemies/placement of enemies in most battlefields frustrates me to no end)

[foggy breach]

You gotta admit the turret is pretty cool tho.

[frail bloom]

It is

[frail bloom]

I think we also would want some larger arenas like if you were to have like 30 imp stalkers and like 10 hell knights or smt you need more space

[obsidian shard]

Turret and Flail is cool asf (also used in the Marketing/Merch alot)

[frail bloom]

I reaaallly wanna fight 60 imp stalkers

[wheat sigil]

i think screechers are the ultimate ragebait
and then the rest of tag2 is just accidental ragebait

[frail bloom]

Nah davoth was intentional

[warm ibex]

I like the gimmick encounters that are essentially just hammer pickups in a room of heavies or fodder, it's funny

[green estuary]

more happy accidents

[foggy breach]

I prefer the Power Gauntlet for the power fantasy of beating up a Agaddon Hunter with your fists lol.

[green estuary]

honestly fuck screechers

[wheat sigil]

no
unhappy accidents

[green estuary]

real

[wheat sigil]

because tag2 makes me very unhappy😢

[warm ibex]

I think we already have an appropriate amount of space in most battlefields past the first few chapters

[foggy breach]

literal mines

[frail bloom]

Idk do you think we can fit 60 hellknights in some of them I'm genuinely curious

It would also look cooler if you could fight like a bunch of small heavies

[warm ibex]

I mean I don't think I would want to fight sixty hell knights at once lol

[green estuary]

last week I blazed through tag 1 in a night and I was hyped to replay tag 2
but then I stopped after the world spear because I remembered shit was kinda ass

[frail bloom]

I do

I wanna see how it goes

[obsidian shard]

60 Mancubi?

[frail bloom]

Ok at least 60 imp stalkers

[warm ibex]

600 Mancubi

[frail bloom]

I can totally handle 60 of those

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/five-hundred-cigarettes-bortus-orville-cigarettes-500-gif-7580742793072271551

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/phenomaman-dispatch-dispatch-game-ravannacries-gif-7867312361757314759

[obsidian shard]

Also good video today btw!

[foggy breach]

Does anyone else prefer the Power Gauntlet?

[wheat sigil]

not even modded master levels without the hammer saves tag2

[frail bloom]

Sometimes

I will find myself mixing mace and gauntlets soon

[foggy breach]

It just feels badass to beat the hell out of a demon.

[green estuary]

it hurts because it's true

[frail bloom]

Are the arenas not that good

Too flat maybe?

[green estuary]

play them again for yourself and you'll see

[warm ibex]

thank you, thank you!

[frail bloom]

I remember seeing the immoran troopers for the first time

[foggy breach]

Wait, what issues does TAG2 levels have again?

[frail bloom]

I didn't even know what was happening

Just some random npc with a reused 2016 asset

It was kinda funny

[green estuary]

but in all honesty, I like more open arenas as opposed to constricted arenas with a lot of verticality to them
the main issue with tag2's arena design is that damn near every arena feels the exact same

[foggy breach]

jesus, you're right

[green estuary]

different textures, same exact feel

[warm ibex]

the dark lord's gaggle of elite chuds trained in the art of turning into a mist of gore and ammo if anyone sneezes within a mile radius of them

[wheat sigil]

the levels specifically mostly has the issues of many bad arenas (talking about why they're bad can go on for a while xd)

[foggy breach]

yeah, just a disappointing enemy

[frail bloom]

Yup that's right fearsome warriors holding the wall for eons and they vaporize to a pellet

Yup that's the elite guard right there

It happened in dark ages too, with the marauders

[green estuary]

the who now

[wheat sigil]

many of tag2's arenas just removes a lot of the threat of enemies' pathing though, which is partly why reallyy open arenas are bad

[frail bloom]

Fearsome warrior elites and you see one on a stretcher being aided by a civilian

[frail bloom]

Not a marauder but would be marauder

But yea those guys

[green estuary]

true true

[frail bloom]

Did nothing.

[foggy breach]

Do you think TAG1's levels are better?

[wheat sigil]

way better

[foggy breach]

Yeah.

[green estuary]

so good man

[foggy breach]

Its like a mix of enclosed and open arenas?

[green estuary]

not even just that, the arenas are just better designed

[frail bloom]

I mean it's more then that

[green estuary]

you have enough space to move around, but so do the demons

[frail bloom]

The arenas work better with the enemy types they had

[green estuary]

you don't get stuck on a bunch of geometry, enemies don't glitch out on collision

[foggy breach]

Yeah, I find those arenas way much fun than TAG2's.

[frail bloom]

Tag 2 also kinda looks kinda drab

I don't really jive with the world spear aesthetic

[green estuary]

I actually like the looks of tag2 just fine

[warm ibex]

I really don't care for the inner part of Immora (visually)

[frail bloom]

And Immora was cool until I saw the concept art

[warm ibex]

everything else is fine

[green estuary]

something like the blood swamps or uac atlantica is just cooler imo but aesthetics aren't tag2's weakness

[frail bloom]

Like inner immora concept art? Delicious

Super cool stuff

[uneven dragon]

i wish immora had harder arenas

[wheat sigil]

you have environmental movement options, multi-layered arenas to make enemy pathing relevant, and none of the tag2 bs of flat arenas or extremely large ones

[uneven dragon]

the one with the screecher and the baron and the marauders is pretty mean though

[foggy breach]

fuck that one

[wheat sigil]

or, there are some tag2-esque arenas, but fortunately not too common

[frail bloom]

I liked tag 1's look more

And it had different palletes

[foggy breach]

Blood Swamps. 🔥

[frail bloom]

Blue for atlantica, green for blood swamps, purple for holt

[green estuary]

honestly that can hardly be considered an arena
just an exercise in running away for 10 seconds if you accidentally trigger the screechers

[frail bloom]

Tag 2 is green, more green, and brownish red

[foggy breach]

true, i just kept meathooking onto zombies to avoid shit

[wheat sigil]

and a really bad thing with the super large arenas is that they arguably become harder than normal arenas for those who don't use the meathook well or ballista boost, but for those who do, it's just a free win
normal arenas at least don't have as large of a diff there

[green estuary]

honestly screechers are such a fuck you
however much you hate them, you don't hate them enough
they could have easily made them such that they just make demons permanently faster if you kill them or something (which would be an interesting dynamic), but instead they make the buff give them a bunch of damage resistance as well as only lasting for a set time period, so the best option is to just run away until the demons calm down, because all your guns don't do shit to them

[uneven dragon]

screechers are great i think

[wheat sigil]

but erm they encourage different play and enemy prioritization or sum

[elder raven]

immora should have been the hardest section in the game if you ask me

[wheat sigil]

yes

[green estuary]

should have, yeah

[foggy breach]

Screechers are just walking and moving land mines.

[green estuary]

[green estuary]

explain yourself

[elder raven]

i love hugo and josh but i will never forgive them for when they were announcing the stone imp, where i started jumping up in joy and cheering because the phrasing ALL pointed to the chaingunners coming back but then i got hit with the stone imp

[wheat sigil]

the really fun part of screechers is how they mess with enemy attacks so multiple enemies with quite often pool up just attacking one screecher😭

[elder raven]

granted, we did get the chaingunners, but they will never be them

[wheat sigil]

but the funnest part is how they sometimes kill themself!!

[green estuary]

ragebait in enemy form

[foggy breach]

i wished they were like remodels instead of reskins but its okay nonetheless

[green estuary]

well, akshually, they did bring back the chaingunner 🤓

[foggy breach]

even like stone effects or particles would do

also you guys are like the chillest people here

[elder raven]

#the-dark-ages message

[green estuary]

well, they have a chaingun

[wheat sigil]

they call me mr. chill because i am so cold😎

[elder raven]

“oh, riot soldier. your no chaingunner”

[green estuary]

yet another enemy designed to ragebait you

[elder raven]

if im not in a fetal position in the corner of my room after encountering a chaingunner like plutonia had them its no chaingunner to me

https://youtu.be/WMVARV_RYGw?si=gn4kLL2woexYXEVj

[warm ibex]

I wouldn't even call TDA's version Chaingunners

I know they were never anything special in the classics but I still feel like they should be more than just shield soldier variants

[obsidian shard]

Shield Soldiers but deadly

[elder raven]

exactly my thoughts

they should have had me biting my nails and slamming my head against my keyboard

oh just read tda

[cerulean pagoda]

hi

[elder raven]

well, they’re very much better than eternal’s riot soldier

[green estuary]

tbf eternal's plasma shield soldier did have me slamming my head against my keyboard

[elder raven]

plasma gun sir

[green estuary]

actually the most dangerous enemy in the entire game

[cerulean pagoda]

the plasma shield soldiers arent even that hard

[elder raven]

heat blast sir

[cerulean pagoda]

i just throw a sticky bomb behind them to stagger them in the early game

or just use the meathook for instantly disabling the shield

[cerulean pagoda]

i dont use the plasma rifle very much

i mean i still use it but not as much as other people

[elder raven]

underrated weapon i ❤️ the heat blast

[green estuary]

in open areas, sure
when you're in close quarters and you turn a corner only to get blasted in the face and lose all of your health instantly then you start to see

[cerulean pagoda]

i dont have the patience to charge the heatblast

[wheat sigil]

i never really engage with the soldiers

[warm ibex]

actually you don't see, since you're dead

[wheat sigil]

almost only if i chainsaw them or meathook->pb

[cerulean pagoda]

yeah that does happen

[green estuary]

problem is I suck at aircamping even on a good day
so I'm kinda forced to engage with them

[cerulean pagoda]

im a little bit better at aircamping than most other doom eternal players

[warm ibex]

you are the gold slayer, after all

[wheat sigil]

it's something i should work on in the future tbh

[wheat sigil]

yea i do kinda retract my statement, if you're in a tight arena, soldiers are high prio

[cerulean pagoda]

if you hop on a jump pad, fly around, use the meathook to get yourself higher in the air, release it, you get another jump, the fall is just enough time for the meathook to charge again, you can do it again, and again, you can also use the weaponwheel during hte meathook to get a ridiculous speed boost, and toss a ballista shot behidn you to turn you into the flash

[wheat sigil]

but if it's a normal, i don't think you need to kill them often even if you don't stay in the air

[cerulean pagoda]

and you get another jump during the huge boost too so multiplied

the only time i really try to get down is to chainsaw an enemy and i flame belch if before chainsawing to get an armor bonus so i can stay protected as i go back into the air again

wait this is TDA chat wtf

[wheat sigil]

in the right circumstances, i can stay in the air for over a minute without jump pads

balanced game

[cerulean pagoda]

if i get the correct ingredients i could pull that off too, even longer maybe

[green estuary]

"I do not aircamp, I do not yeethook, I do not ballista boost--I WALK on the GROUND, and if I'm not fast enough, then I DIE"

[frail bloom]

I agree, they look too basic. Should've had some bald black commando in obvious red gear

And he should do more then just hitscan

He should've been a light heavy, like the stalker

Hol on I drew him up a while back

Lemme see if I have him here

[elder raven]

and the goatee

do not forget the goatee

[wheat sigil]

yea i think this is the most egregious example i've got
https://youtu.be/k89X9G-eXIA?si=grY6p2by5xBMODBx&t=19

[elder raven]

though it doesnt really fit tda’s artstyle

[frail bloom]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1378369563384741920/1436511727629107290/2025051920534278.png?ex=690fdf4c&is=690e8dcc&hm=ff313bc40b4bd0ee67430653f17b1dead3e2ca9d9279dc0dbe96d0bd02ecb856&
Something like this

Maybe get rid of the shoulder cannon?

[warm ibex]

at first glance I didn't realize that was his head at the bottom and thought you have him a dog lol

[frail bloom]

Er ye not my best work

But it's a mangled commando

[frail bloom]

Ye he has a little decapitated head of himself that he feeds little treats

[cerulean pagoda]

its insnae to believe that the enviorments in TDAS artbook werent made from AI and just made out of pure love for the franchise

[frail bloom]

I would hope so

[warm ibex]

Someone in my comments suggested that the DLC spear could be the spear of destiny

that would be cool

[frail bloom]

The what

[cerulean pagoda]

from god of war 2?

[elder raven]

would be a good idea but maybe too out there

[warm ibex]

"The Holy Lance, also known as the Spear of Longinus (named after Saint Longinus), the Spear of Destiny, or the Holy Spear, is alleged to be the lance that pierced the side of Jesus as he hung on the cross during his crucifixion."

[elder raven]

oh my god im so stupid

[warm ibex]

from wikipedia. Also, you know, Wolfenstein 3D: Spear of Destiny

[elder raven]

i thought it was wolfenstein

[cerulean pagoda]

its a very usess weapon until you learn tech with it simlar to dom eternals mcrowave beam

[frail bloom]

Er so

What parallels would the doom spear have with the spear that stabbed jesus

He stabbing bad jesus?

[elder raven]

i will never forget that meth idea i had where i theorized that the next doom game (when eternal was recently released) that frau engel was gonna be the motherdemon in the next game

[warm ibex]

Wolfenstein 3D: Spear of Destiny. If nothing else would be a cool callback to a prior id Software title

[frail bloom]

Oh I getchu

[elder raven]

i remember seeing this fanart of bj reawakening doomguy atop the ingmore sanctum

i love bj but he’s not doing much in the trials

unless da’at yichud power armor is really strong

[green estuary]

yeah it's not that crazy
caroline was wearing it in wolfenstein 2 and she still got taken out by a super soldier

[elder raven]

rip caroline btw

[green estuary]

rip

[elder raven]

i’d still like to see doom alluded to in wolfenstein 3, it probably wouldnt make much sense but cool idea nonetheless

[cerulean pagoda]

imagine if the weapon in the DLC is a glass of beer

[frail bloom]

Imagine?

It's totally happening

[cerulean pagoda]

imagine choking out demons by shoving beer down their throat

flooding a manacubus' throat with beer til it explodes

[frail bloom]

He gets drunk and explodes

Cuz why not

[elder raven]

in 2020 this would be seen as “this is never happening” but since everyone has the ability to access id tech 7 then its very possible

[cerulean pagoda]

the slayer drinks beer goes drunk and crazy mode

Drunk rage available-L3+R3

[elder raven]

i like to think doomguy works like mcu hulk in which if he drinks beer, he’ll metabolize it really quickly and not get drunk

[obsidian shard]

"Beercubus"

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-arkham-knight-batman-arkham-gpunity-gif-7545376548735360131

[barren wagon]

does anyone know how to get the perfection skin the purple one, i have completed the milestone but it didnt appear among the skins section

[cerulean pagoda]

didnt happen for me either

[red peak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/832527551154094150/1428513543640186900/lv_0_202510161840481.gif

[frail bloom]

Ok imma try finishing my max slider run

[cerulean pagoda]

good luck

[obsidian shard]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/971218217852862544/1436525845010190478/Copy_of_ABSOLUTE.png?ex=690fec72&is=690e9af2&hm=ad681b8fdf26e0a8811be29a43321bfcba0affb5b1c184f116adbfbcec968fae&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=914&height=514&

[frail bloom]

Kill me

[cerulean pagoda]

you wanna do harbor of souls again?

[prime folio]

Is belly of the beast the only level that's got a secret encounter?

[cerulean pagoda]

you can take the asscrack tips i posted up there in this chat

the final fight i meant

the final bossfight

[frail bloom]

No it's this final arena

[green estuary]

I believe the kar'thul marshes has a triple cyberdemon fight

[frail bloom]

Nope

Harbor of souls

[green estuary]

whoops

[frail bloom]

I hate the komodo

I hate it

[prime folio]

Is it accessed the same way with hidden switches or smth?

[frail bloom]

Hidden switches ye

[cerulean pagoda]

i hate komodos a HELL ton

tyhey just have so much healt and take all my attention even during abig arena fight

and then theres the cyberdemon in the back summoning spikes breaking my shield while im brawling with the komodo then the next second im dead

[frail bloom]

Exactly😭

I've been stuck on this god forsaken fight for hours

I can't figure it out

[solar cairn]

Skill issue

[frail bloom]

Ok

You try it

[solar cairn]

Which level?

[frail bloom]

Reckoning, on max sliders, no extra lives

[solar cairn]

500 percent damage???

[frail bloom]

Yup

[green estuary]

that is indeed what max sliders includes

[solar cairn]

I m skill issue

[green estuary]

aren't we all

[frail bloom]

[solar cairn]

I only passed on 300, 500 as if they did it for a joke

Like “did it run crysis”

[frail bloom]

BRO HE KEEPS SPAMMING HIS RNG FIREBALLS

https://tenor.com/view/stop-kill-me-now-fml-facepalm-stressed-gif-6582634393988801134

[solar cairn]

Reckoning is the most difficult level in the game as if

[frail bloom]

Yup I'm done

Tommorrow

Imma try some ripatorium for once

[solar cairn]

This is probably the only level where I used BFC

[frail bloom]

I only have one too

Kill me.

[cerulean pagoda]

its actually belly of the beast

cancerous acid everywhere forcing you to stay in one place where you get to suffer the vagarys mist clouds that kill you

[bitter dagger]

When are we getting the DLC?

[frail bloom]

Uh oh

[frail bloom]

We don't know yet

But you'll know bc if you watch doom enough the dlc will show up on your feed

So no need to ask you'll know yourself rather easily

[cerulean pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-does-he-know-gif-26833694

[bitter dagger]

Got it

[cerulean pagoda]

we are getting the DLC when its ready

[frail bloom]

The game on 120% speed is very slow

I hate what 150% did to me

I want to wash it out as much as possible when I'm done

[cerulean pagoda]

i want to return to 130% speed afer the max slider r1 wiggle left joystick circle but its like returning to 2016 after eternal

slow and unbearable

i should not have made the choice of doing max sliders

[frail bloom]

I feel like I'm floating on lower speeds

What has happened to my brain

[cerulean pagoda]

i just went into it cuz my gameplay was humiliating on default

[cerulean pagoda]

my brains the same but worse

[frail bloom]

Like 120% speed before did not feel slow at all before my new run

[cerulean pagoda]

i am imagining max sliders rn

[frail bloom]

Now it feels too easy😭

[cerulean pagoda]

i imagine it all the time, the reflexes, switching to impaler, parrying, shield bashing, dreadmacing, dying, repositioning, im basically in it 247

[frail bloom]

Yup constantly locked in and thinking abt what you're using

[cerulean pagoda]

sometimes my fingers randomly make those movements when im doing nothing

[frail bloom]

On normal settings I just parry skibidi

And everything dies

[cerulean pagoda]

it feels like returning to 2016 from eternal

slow and easy

[frail bloom]

Gosh if I were to play 2016 rn I might not make it

Imma gradually simmer down

After I finish this dookie run

[cerulean pagoda]

eternal already made 2016 unbarable for me i cant imagine what max sliders does ot it

[frail bloom]

Max sliders made eternal look sluggish

And feel to an extent

[cerulean pagoda]

it makes eternal look like the stand and fight

[frail bloom]

Lol ye

[solid beacon]

When got bfc in dark ages

https://tenor.com/view/dnd-dungeons-and-dragons-magic-missile-artificer-techno-wizard-gif-17480177951573292146

[frail bloom]

I want that

[cerulean pagoda]

i unbinded the BFC when i was still a normal nightmare player for the chainball

but now on max sliders i realize ineed it

to skip komodo leader encounters cuz holy hell i fucking despise them

[harsh egret]

thats why im never touching that

[cerulean pagoda]

i only touched it for escaping disgrace and humiliation

(get the reference if you can)

god i hate what max sliders did to me

everything feels unbearably slow

[unkempt dragon]

ooo do it

[cerulean pagoda]

i opened up like 4 of my favourite games and all of them feel so slow

[unkempt dragon]

ok lol

[cerulean pagoda]

if youre reading this pls dont try it

[unkempt dragon]

Hard not to read it, you're posting it a lot in the channels haha. It doesn't seem like that big of a deal. Just try to enjoy games as they're mean to be again.

[stark bough]

I know this message was ages ago but wasnt the spear of destiny used to kill the Cyberdemon the very first time?

[uneven dragon]

?

[stark bough]

In the Wolfenstein RPG you get the spear of destiny to kill the Harbinger of Doom by cutting off its arm and leg. It then curses Blazkowicz's family to fight it again (which i believe happens in the DOOM RPGS?)

I couldn't remember if it was the spear of destiny but I searched it up after and it is the one you use

[uneven dragon]

yeah iirc that’s correct

[uneven dragon]

I just doubt that modern id would reference the RPGs lol

I mean I’d be pleasantly surprised I’ve been hoping for it for a while

[stark bough]

Yeah, it wouldn't make too much sense for it to pop up in this DLC but it would be cool nonetheless

[brittle finch]

Chat I got 1440P medium with max PT to run on my 5050 with upscaling

And overclocking

It’s on DLSS performance

And gets a somewhat consistent 30 FPS

||Also, I first tried the fat dude and 3rd tried his second phase :3||

[brittle finch]

I’ve seen it peak at 72 tho on Abyssal Forest (which is super demanding btw)

I overclocked it to have slightly better performance than a 5060

It only heated up to 80C

[brittle finch]

It looks maybe a little better than 1080P max with max PT on DLSS balanced

WAIT

I might be able to max out 1080P basically now

1080P max with max PT on DLSS quality

[obsidian shard]

god damn

Thats bloody impressive ngl

[brittle finch]

Indeed

Overclocking is fuckin crazy

If you don’t mind your room being a good 5 degrees warmer

😭

[brittle finch]

I had an idea for a 16 GB VRAM chip (most likely the 5060 TI’s), 5060 heatsink, undervolted and overclocked, all on the 5050 and it would probably make the 5050 run 1440P max native at 60 FPS without frame generation

Talking about rasterization btw

Not path tracing in this case

[brittle finch]

Only reason I thought of this is because 5060 TI scrap online would go for like $50 at most and would probably include a hopefully working VRAM chip and heatsink

And 5060 display models go for like $30 even if the heatsink is busted up you can just buy one of those

And attaching a 5060’s heatsink to a 5050 increases the performance by around 15%

I saw benchmarks from a modder that tried it on Reddit

And it’d be like a 5060 TI for $100 less

HYPOTHETICALLY SPEAKING OFC

[brittle finch]

It’d probably run 1440P medium with max PT at around 40 FPS with upscaling

And the extra VRAM would give you room to turn on frame generation times 2 and get 60 FPS

[brittle finch]

Man if I had the patience I’d have done this by now ngl

Mostly for the meme, partly because it’s the most price to performance friendly card EVER

Still not recommending it btw

[brittle finch]

Imagine your 5050 outperforming your friend’s 5060 or 5060 TI even 💀

It’d be hilarious

Type of shit mfs do after hearing “do it for the vine”

😭

Btw please don’t ban me this is for the memes

🙏

Me rn cus funni

Just realized that the 5050 and 5060 TI have the same bus width

Meaning you can mod the 5050 with 16 GBs of VRAM

So better yet

You can buy a 5060 TI for parts that comes with the VRAM chip and heatsink

[brittle finch]

Which is about $50 if I had to guess

And boom, you got yourself a $300 5060 TI

[half plaza]

They'd be so much more dangerous if the player didn't also have a shield

Think about how dangerous enemy chainguns are if you don't block them

[warm ibex]

I also kinda wish they didn't have a shield lol

I think I'd prefer a bottom tier heavy over shielded fodder

[brittle finch]

• it has a lower TDP meaning that overclocking it would be no problem

I’m autistic btw idk if y’all couldn’t tell frrrr

Typos are so ass

[barren shell]

real

[uneven dragon]

IG the idea was to continue on from Eternal’s Chaingunner lol

if they had a cooler design ig I’d be happier

[hazy pasture]

So real

[hazy pasture]

Issoke brochacho

[frail bloom]

Ye after my run I guess I would want to sober down, so good idea

[cerulean pagoda]

Hi

[harsh egret]

Sup

horde do u have the timestamp for this randomly
not cuz im doubting u, just curious and wanna see how the hell i missed this lol

[frail bloom]

Yay more guts

How do you improve the ragdoll physiques

[harsh egret]

i mean im sure theres things they can do but working on improving that 6 months after release is kinda random cuz its not like it was something that needed a rework or improvements really

[frail bloom]

Ye and is it even gonna be that huge of an improvement

[harsh egret]

like if they got ideas they would normally just incorporate that in the next game

but im not complaining lol

[harsh egret]

ye no clue

[frail bloom]

Well hopefully they fix some real issues

[harsh egret]

one nitpick i have is how stiff the limbs of the demons on the floor are

when u shoot them u see they are just made of rock lmao

[frail bloom]

Ye I remember

[harsh egret]

but i mean its not that important, if next game has improvements on this then great

but maybe its this, would be cool

[obsidian shard]

I can try and find it!

@harsh egret 41 mins in it!

they talk about the Updated Gore and Ragdolls!

[frail bloom]

Can we throw demons in the next doom game

Have their ragdolls damage and falter the big demons

Like throwing fodder

[green estuary]

I have a game called trepang2 that you might be interested in

[frail bloom]

Oh what video should I watch abt it

I'm thinking of throwing fodder at bigger demons for a free falter

[green estuary]

gmanlives has a good review on it
You can grab low level enemies and use them as a meat shield or throw them at other enemies
Or with certain enemies that carry explosives you can toss them into the air and shoot them like a piñata and they explode

[frail bloom]

That sounds soooo cool

[green estuary]

The story is a nothingburger but the gameplay is insanity

[frail bloom]

Do you think it can work in a doom game

[green estuary]

I’m sure it can

[frail bloom]

Would be awesome

[harsh egret]

Its been on my wishlist

Will play at some point lol

[harsh egret]

Thanks, just watched it rn, it sounds like a pretty big improvement then

[frail bloom]

What did he say

[harsh egret]

Fuck off vega

[harsh egret]

Go to the videos channel i sent clip there

[frail bloom]

So were we seeing the new gore stuff on stream?

Or we haven't seen it yet

[solid nacelle]

When he says "I played it" it made it sound like it had yet to be implemented into the final build

[obsidian shard]

That is correct

It' will be in the next update but we did not see it in the Ripatorium 2.0 Preview

[frail bloom]

Ok ok

Hopefully it doesn't affect my fps in any way

[harsh egret]

They also mentioned path tracing will be forced on after the next update btw

[frail bloom]

Haha you're funny

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-drool-spongebob-dumb-gif-4187809058326875948

[stone jay]

Am I going crazy or are they adding atlan combat to the ripatourium?

[meager vortex]

who said that?

[frail bloom]

No

[stone jay]

I dunno I swear someone did or maybe it was a bs rumor

[frail bloom]

Rumor

[meager vortex]

that is not confirmed just rumor

[stone jay]

Fair enough, ngl I don't know if it'd work anyways

[frail bloom]

3 enemy types ain't a lot to work with

[meager vortex]

ripatorium is slayer hunting the demons

he will rip and tear until is done!

[green estuary]

you are indeed going crazy

[obsidian shard]

Crazy?

[meager vortex]

he is nut lol

[green estuary]

pot, meet kettle

[meager vortex]

if atlan ripatorium only fight titans

[stone jay]

🤭

[meager vortex]

oh... i forgot the old one

[stone jay]

No and of they give the guns then they'd need to limit the ammo and have drops randomly or it'll be just brain-dead nonsense

[frail bloom]

Ye it just ain't happening

[obsidian shard]

Mancubus titan when?

[stone jay]

Probably best they should focus on the slayer himself, ngl I won't miss the Atlan stuff unless they expand it a bit, and definitely not that bloody dragon 🤣🤣🤣 I have PTSD from doing that tutorial so many times on UN

[frail bloom]

Now we're talking

[frail bloom]

Hey that tutorial is gone now

If you disable tutorials you disable that segment

[stone jay]

Oh I know, but it was a tough time 🤣🤣🤣

[frail bloom]

For sure

[meager vortex]

wait a minutes? master level campaign coming next year if chapter3 is master level version too many titans encounter???

[frail bloom]

Maybe maybe not

Maybe they add new variants, or they skip out on atlan sections all together

Maybe they cut out the dragon segments too who knows

[meager vortex]

dragon section too i guess

[frail bloom]

Or maybe they stay exactly the same

I know it's controversial but I wish the atlan was in 3rd person

And I also wish the destruction physics for the atlan were better

Does anyone else feel like the physics for that is like porcelain breaking??

[scenic lichen]

Yes but

Uppercutting a titan scratches an itch in my brain

Very satisfying

[frail bloom]

I can get that

But destroying buildings looks goofy

[scenic lichen]

I do like the atlan sections despite how simple they are but I don’t find the dragon sections very entertaining

The only cool part about them is traveling large maps but the actual combat isn’t memorable

[frail bloom]

It needed more enemies and more options for dragon combat

[scenic lichen]

The design had a lot of missed opportunities

Dragon*

[frail bloom]

They did a bit too much cutting down imo

[scenic lichen]

It sucks how you can’t actually use the dragon’s fire breath in combat

[meager vortex]

hugo martine snizz some one said goofy/10 lol

[frail bloom]

Hugo goofin?

[harsh egret]

I have some theories when it comes to the master campaign and dragon segments but i think its better to just wait and see what happens when that comes out

[frail bloom]

No law says you can't make some theories

Share em if you're willing

[harsh egret]

I feel like there will be some additions to the dragon in that mode

[frail bloom]

If so I would hope for the fireball thing

[harsh egret]

Either some of the cut content that was supposed to be like the fireball ability or smth but idk

Just what I think

[frail bloom]

It would make the vanilla campaign version less appealing tho lol

Like I would replay the master campaign from then on

[harsh egret]

I think its gonna be more than what master levels were like in eternal, even the later ones

[scenic lichen]

I was hoping that dragon combat had some melee options too would’ve been cool

[frail bloom]

Ye like a dash headbutt or smt

[meager vortex]

what is best of the eternal master level campaign guys

[scenic lichen]

Serrat is pretty fucking strong so why shouldn’t he

He can snap a titans neck

[frail bloom]

Sgn?

I feel like sgn

[meager vortex]

or he can make a fire kissing

[frail bloom]

Kiss of death

It's called kiss of death

Not fire kissing😭

[meager vortex]

damn i was hope serrat kiss of the death to ahazrack

[frail bloom]

Er ahzraks mouth ain't that big

He talks big game

[meager vortex]

i mean fried him

[frail bloom]

Kiss of death implies incinerating someones insides with fire, first coined in the Godzilla 2014 filmed

Ahzrak is just being flamed

[meager vortex]

but ahzrack kill him

[frail bloom]

No in a hypothetical, if serrat were to kill him it's just by fire

[meager vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doom-the-dark-ages-flail-slam-gif-3602213455553818448

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/godzilla-kiss-of-the-death-gif-22099712

Looks similar no

[meager vortex]

today i fight the old one my atlan punched him and killed him he can't give it to me a damage

[frail bloom]

Not the same story on max sliders

Took me awhile cuz he felt like swinging four times

[meager vortex]

max slider =hardcore difficulty

[frail bloom]

Max sliders=radiation poisoning speedrun

[warm ibex]

have we considered atlan spear

[harsh egret]

yes

well not now tbh but good u reminded me lol

i just highly doubt hugo is going around throwing teasers for a atlan weapon of all things

but who knows

[frosty roost]

y'all should I try ripatorium? never done it before

[harsh egret]

up to u but if u wanna experience a way improved version of it u should way a 2-3 weeks whenever the ripatorium 2.0 update drops

its still a fun time but the mode is kinda barebones atm

[warm ibex]

always bet on nothing

[frosty roost]

@harsh egret i gotcha, thanks!

[harsh egret]

nice typo lol, wait*

[frosty roost]

HAHAHAHA I just noticed!

[brittle finch]

Why is the real time denoiser so much harder to run than ray reconstruction? They look barely any different

Just curious

[dusk current]

is there a common estimate for tda's dlc release date?

i haven't been keeping up with doom very much, recently

[obsidian shard]

next year

[dusk current]

thank you

[strong moth]

Have we considered that the “steer” teaser was referring to the Icelandic dairy treat “skyr”?

[ebon lynx]

looking forward to the beer update

can't wait for the Slayer to RIP AND TEAR into a six pack hell fkn yeah brother

[covert blaze]

Chat, I just got the TDA Shield Saw in D&D.

[solar cairn]

[brittle finch]

So long to wait

:c

[green estuary]

next year is literally just 2 months away

[scenic lichen]

do yall roll modulator accelerator or stabilizer accelerator

[harsh egret]

modulator

[obsidian shard]

Cycler

[strong moth]

Just started my 8th playthrough with the intent of only using weapons I never touch and currently the Pulverizer is wrecking shop to a degree I was never aware was possible

[green estuary]

cycler

[drowsy venture]

is there a good list of all the skins/promo ones for Dark Ages? I know the DoomWiki.org still doesn't have the Phalanx skin even though the McFarlane action figure's been out for a bit now

[tall nymph]

haven't played in a fwe months but was the flail buffed?

[cerulean pagoda]

hi

[cerulean pagoda]

all true children of the dark ages know it, the flail kills all who touch it

[green estuary]

nope

[strong moth]

No but it’s got the best aura so you gotta use it anyway

[frail bloom]

Correct me if I'm wrong but Hugo said they were adding melee and rune swapping not just bc of player feedback but bc of the dlc?

I wish I had the clip

But it was to prepare for the dlc or smt

[harsh egret]

literally the reason i used to use it so much, its just so cool to use lol, but ive been wanting to change up playstyles so im using the gauntlet mostly now

[harsh egret]

hmm not actually sure

was it this last stream?

[frail bloom]

Me neither

No like 2 or 3 streams ago

[harsh egret]

ugh

[frail bloom]

If someone knows they can affirm or deny

[harsh egret]

@warm ibex permaybe

[frail bloom]

Yes maybe

[harsh egret]

also i thought i remembered josh saying the patch is not out next week or the week after, but he said its not out THIS week and next week

[warm ibex]

If I'm not mistaken, they're not necessarily adding it because of the DLC, but so that players can have it during the DLC

[frail bloom]

Hmm

Yes that is true

[warm ibex]

but something along those lines yeah. I don't have a clip link unfortunately

[frail bloom]

Alr thank you anyway

[warm ibex]

yeah no problem man

[brittle finch]

Not that I know of, but it has always been good

[obsidian shard]

No

Its still fun as hell

I like it

(Its an armour Shredder tho)

[vapid lodge]

guys, I might be getting some hate but I think I am the only one that dislikes the concept of the new chainshot weapon.

Whats the point of it since its literally a weaponized flail?

Dont get me wrong, I really take pride that I am a fan and if not a very dedicated fan to the DOOM franchise...

But I really do not get the idea of the chainshot, it seems really basic with no taste, barely even used it and tried to use it fully unlocked....

we already have a flail, why does the chainshot have to exist?

[obsidian shard]

Basically you gotta charge it up to use it

[vapid lodge]

Yeah thats not my point, but yes

[obsidian shard]

thats the point of the weapon (also its op like the ssg)

[obsidian shard]

Also Ranged Flail, Also fun Plus looks cool

[vapid lodge]

I get its use but they really couldn't stay away from an already existing flail concept?

[obsidian shard]

Also Creates a hurling Reality Tearing Implosion

Lore is peak for the weapons

[vapid lodge]

Yeah I guess I am too dense for that weapon

or not my style

[obsidian shard]

Thats ok, not everything clicks with everyone

[vapid lodge]

the skullcrusher tho

thats one hell of a weapon

might 3d print it :3

[obsidian shard]

For me all the weapons are great and have great uses!

[vapid lodge]

yeah I love them too, except that one

[obsidian shard]

Chainshot is one of my favourite actually lol

[harsh egret]

sup bro been a while

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/seriously-laugh-laughing-you-serious-jk-simmons-gif-6107729

[harsh egret]

yup amazing weapon. looks and sounds really cool and fun to use

[obsidian shard]

I agree with this statement

May not be the best, But has its uses

[brittle finch]

I use it cus armor is annoying

[obsidian shard]

Also the Chainshot is Sentient

(evil)

[spare panther]

its best used against enemies you can parry alot, like cyberdemons and cosmic barons

does big damage and aoe every parry if you have that upgrade

[warm ibex]

because you're looking at it wrong 👀

[frail bloom]

The chainshot is your best chance at breaking armor

It also deals aoe fully upgraded and does good damage

[warm ibex]

it's not a gun flail (and really doesn't act like one anyways), it's one of those boxing glove gun things that works almost like a sort of charged railgun

[frail bloom]

If you're good at parrying you're gonna like the chainshot

The flail on the other hand does piss damage and gives piss armor

It does nothing

[elder raven]

it goes (in terms of how good they are)

1. mace
2. fist
3. flail

[frail bloom]

Yup

Fist and mace can be interchangeable at different times

But flail is dead last you can't justify how weak it is

[harsh egret]

for me the mace isnt that fun to use

[elder raven]

mace and the electric shock rune is so great

[frail bloom]

I think it's on terms of actual utility

The flail feels good to use but it's terrible

[elder raven]

brain go “wowowowowow” when i hit the electric shock mace combo

[frail bloom]

All they need is to buff the armor drops that's all I ask

[harsh egret]

the gauntlet is both fun as hell to use and really strong imo

[frail bloom]

Idc abt damage at least let it be a armor source

[harsh egret]

so im just on that rn

[harsh egret]

yeah

[uneven dragon]

i hope they add a chainshot alt in the dlc given they cut one from the main game

[harsh egret]

im sure they will

[frail bloom]

I'm not sure that's happening

[harsh egret]

duality of man

[uneven dragon]

😭

[frail bloom]

Yup

[harsh egret]

surely they give us a new weapon tho lol

[frail bloom]

I agree

[warm ibex]

flail has the multi-target function of the mace (at least the launch mace) with the faster speed of the gauntlets, that's why I like it personally

[harsh egret]

its a free slot

also ive not seen anyone talk about this but what if they add a bfg alternative

sorry, BFC

[frail bloom]

Um

[uneven dragon]

lowk i love the bfc but the cosmic realm bfg looks so good i kinda wish they had just gone with that😭 💔

[frail bloom]

Kinda weird to have another arena clear weapon

[harsh egret]

imagine a guided missile bfg shot or smth

[uneven dragon]

IT'S TIME FOR THE UNMAYKR BUT GOOD 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[frail bloom]

Ye maybe we can try the unmaker again

[uneven dragon]

nah jk they cant do an unmaykr given it's basically the skullcrusher

[frail bloom]

Er kinda

[harsh egret]

no, it would be too similar to the way the skullcrusher weapons work

[uneven dragon]

literally same firing pattern and the original concept for the unmaykr was that it fired demon bits which is what the skullcrusher does

[frail bloom]

Didn't know that

[uneven dragon]

the skullcrusher is ironically the most true to the og unmaker concept than the d64 and doom eternal ones lol

[frail bloom]

But the unmaker shoots hitscan lasers

[warm ibex]

I lowkey don't get why people like the cosmic BFG so much, it's just a massive block of concrete with a black hole on top 😭

[harsh egret]

why would it be weird tho lmao, they would share ammo

[frail bloom]

It's basically a longer range skullcrusher

[uneven dragon]

the doom 64 weapon wasn't called the unmaker till the rerelease

[frail bloom]

Ye so why use it

[harsh egret]

oh i love the concept

[uneven dragon]

the og concept for the unmaker was demon bits

[frail bloom]

Kinda a waste of priorities imo

[uneven dragon]

i like the massive block of concrete idk

https://doomwiki.org/w/images/7/7c/Colin-geller-dtda-bfg-v1-01-f1-Resized.jpg

[harsh egret]

cuz its fun? extra options just like literally all the other guns

[green estuary]

also kinda weird how eternal gave us a free instakill weapon despite also having the bfg

[frail bloom]

So what should I call it

[uneven dragon]

idk this just looks really really sick

[harsh egret]

holy shit its beautiful

[uneven dragon]

still call it the unmaker i was just pointing out it wasn't the og intention

[frail bloom]

Ye but you can't use it as much during your entire playthrough

[harsh egret]

what

[frail bloom]

It's not as usable

[uneven dragon]

i mean the d2016 and eternal bfgs are just a massive slab of metal it's not like the cosmic one looks very different

[frail bloom]

What can you use more, the bfc or your ssg

[green estuary]

would've been cool if they had given us a black hole gun
instead of tendrils attaching to enemies, it would suck the biomass of enemies into itself

[frail bloom]

I'd rather have an individual gun then some arena clear that shares ammo

[green estuary]

if you're playing 2016, it's about the same amount

[harsh egret]

man its just an extra option lol, when the hell does the average user use the unmaykr instead of the bfg

[mystic barn]

I like the idea of the Cosmic BFG creating small black holes that draw in all the nearby enemies. Then, you could swap to the BFC and delete them all

[green estuary]

"but underthemayo said the unmaykr was good"

[frail bloom]

But hugo said each addition will be meaningful and part of the loop

[warm ibex]

nah, any real GOAT would understand that the Unmaker is peak and needs to be brought back as soon as humanly possible no matter the cost

[uneven dragon]

https://doomwiki.org/w/images/8/88/DTDA-Ballistic-Force-Crossbow.jpg

the BFC looks just kinda... plain yk?

like it's just a crossbow with an arrow that glows a lil

[frail bloom]

I don't see another arena clear as a meaningful addition

[harsh egret]

its meaningful cuz its gonna be a better bfc
the one we have in the game is a lil dissapointing IMO

[uneven dragon]

the cosmic BFG looks way more special

[frail bloom]

You're not getting me

[uneven dragon]

i do love the Unmaker but functionally the Skullcrusher is basically the same thing

[frail bloom]

It's fine

[uneven dragon]

yooo that would actually be sick

[harsh egret]

how would it not be meaningful tho lol

[frail bloom]

Because it preforms the same function

What do you mean

[harsh egret]

alr dont add new weapons either cuz they are performing the same action, killing demons

[green estuary]

bro stole my homework

[warm ibex]

imo they failed to truly deliver on any aspect of the skull crusher (in terms of gameplay, not design) so I wouldn't mind a super weapon version of it lol

[frail bloom]

You know that's not the same thing

[uneven dragon]

i had fun with the skullcrusher :p

[frail bloom]

C'mon now

[harsh egret]

i explained how the new bfc would work totally different than the other one and u saying it does the same thing

[mystic barn]

Whoopsies! I remember coming up with it months ago, but I suppose it’s a pretty popular idea

[uneven dragon]

wasnt the craziest shit ever but tell me you dont feel something mowing through fodder with it

[harsh egret]

yes im exagerating

[frail bloom]

Btw your bfc unequips your shield

You want that again???

[green estuary]

it's just that I sent a message almost identical to yours in chat just before you did lol

[frail bloom]

I don't see your point man

[harsh egret]

maybe add a smaller one that doesnt? 🤯

[frail bloom]

But then it's broken

[harsh egret]

and it changes things up 🤯

yeah but it would be weaker but still do some shit idk man im not a game designer

[warm ibex]

honestly I legitimately don't, mostly because they have to hand-craft special areas where the crusher is more useful. I never pull it out during combat because few arenas plop like thirty fodder in front of you

[frail bloom]

So it's a normal gun then??

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/cringe-gif-24107071

[frail bloom]

Hey man you the one not making sense

[harsh egret]

im done bruh

[green estuary]

samir when he doesn't agree with an idea

[uneven dragon]

i think the weapon i had the most fun with was weirdly the shredder

[frail bloom]

All I hear is

[harsh egret]

im being gaslit into thinking i dont make sense

[warm ibex]

the shredder is honestly super fun and very underrated imo

[uneven dragon]

the ricochet mod is so awesome 😭

it's not even the most useful thing ever it's just so much fun being able to do that

[harsh egret]

im saying theres tons of ideas they can have for a 2nd bfc weapon that would be completly different than the current one

[green estuary]

goated weapon

[harsh egret]

and it WOULD be a meaningful weapon, how wouldnt it

[frail bloom]

He wants a weaker bfc that still serves as a demon delete button that also lets you use your shield but at the same time it shares ammo with the bfc so you can't use it as much as a normal gun

[harsh egret]

cuz what im hearing is u call any weaker weapon in the same slot useless then

[harsh egret]

i didnt say it HAS to, it CAN have the shield up

[elder raven]

the most underrated weapon if you ask me is the impaler

[frail bloom]

No not useless it's why I don't like the unmayker in eternal

[elder raven]

i love it

[frail bloom]

The bfg is almost always better

[harsh egret]

the unmaykr is good

[green estuary]

I don't think there's a soul alive who underrates the impaler
it's always been the best gun in the game, and damn near everyone knows it

[frail bloom]

Ye ok

[harsh egret]

dont kek me

[frail bloom]

I can kek all I want

[green estuary]

tbf saying the unmaykr is good does deserve a kek

[frail bloom]

[harsh egret]

[wraith stone]

Imps when you have three health:LOCKED IN

[harsh egret]

doesnt have to be as crazy as the bfg

good is worse but still a good weapon lol

[green estuary]

it's only actually worth it if you have a weird self-imposed challenge of not using the bfg but letting yourself use the unmaykr for some reason

[harsh egret]

anyyyyway that wasnt my point

[elder raven]

ive seen some people hating on it before

its beautiful

[green estuary]

I am one of said people

I hate on it because it's broken as hell and it has ridiculous amounts of aim assist

[frail bloom]

I think it should have its own ammo then

[harsh egret]

to me that just sounds stupid

[frail bloom]

Well idk how your mystery weapon is gonna work so I'm trying to figure things out

[harsh egret]

u want it to not share weapon, that would be insane

[frail bloom]

You just said bfc but better

[harsh egret]

share ammo* lol

[frail bloom]

How better

[harsh egret]

cuz u can use both lmfao

like back to back

[frail bloom]

[harsh egret]

yes?

[frail bloom]

Ye I'm not getting it

You do you

[harsh egret]

u want 2 bfc weapons with 3 ammo each, instead of 2 that share ammo
do u understand what u saying lol

imagine if the unmaykr didnt share ammo with the bfg

[frail bloom]

Well since it does I never use the unmayker

Bc it doesn't clear the arena

It's single target focus

It's objectively worse in most scenarios

[green estuary]

I think I can count on one hand the number of people who use the unmaykr but don't use the bfg

[frail bloom]

Yup

[harsh egret]

i use both, maybe 80% bfg idk

[green estuary]

I use neither
because idk reasons

[harsh egret]

well same but when i do

[green estuary]

except the icon of sin, because fuck that boss

[harsh egret]

🤢

[frail bloom]

Hey y'know what

Hato

I agree, y'know why

I need a komodo delete button ASAP

[harsh egret]

get good

[frail bloom]

One that the MF can't dodge

[harsh egret]

i hope we get armored komodos in dlc just for u

[frail bloom]

So y'know what have another bfc type

[harsh egret]

armored spirited komodos

[frail bloom]

First thing I'm doing when ripatorium 2.0 drops is making an encounter just for you

You gonna go through pain

[harsh egret]

and what would that encounter have

[frail bloom]

Just you wait

[harsh egret]

go on

[frail bloom]

You'll go crazy

[harsh egret]

how about u make a good encounter instead cuz games are supposed to be fun

[frail bloom]

I did

Like 11 of them

[warm ibex]

dude back in july I had someone write a fucking college thesis-level novel on why the Impaler is one of, if not THE worst gun in Doom history. I don't know if youtube has a character limit but I'm willing to bet money that if it exists, he reached it. I sat and stared at the comment for a while and then removed it, do wish I would've grabbed a screencapture first though

[frail bloom]

But this new one is to mess with you

[harsh egret]

"ill put 10 komodos and 30 lost souls in an encounter" yeah no shit that will make me go crazy

[frail bloom]

Nah

Max cacos, 5 rounds

With max revs

Max rev leaders

Max acolytes

Get fugged

[harsh egret]

woah!!

[frail bloom]

With komodoes

[frail bloom]

What

Nah Hato I don't mean it like that

Respectfully

[harsh egret]

what lol

[frail bloom]

Nvm

Ye I hope this encounter breaks you

[harsh egret]

wont if i dont play it

[green estuary]

I would've wanted to see it lmao

[frail bloom]

Then you a wuss

[elder raven]

should have copied it, put it into a speech bubble above ahzrak

[green estuary]

could have been a new copypasta or something

[harsh egret]

ill play my encounters since those will be good

[frail bloom]

If I beat it your honor is on the line

[frail bloom]

You saying my encounters aren't good?

Plutonia preset is peak

[harsh egret]

no, this one ur gonna make wont be

[warm ibex]

I regret deleting it lol, but that's how I was handling those sorts of comments back when TDA was still fresh

[frail bloom]

I know

[harsh egret]

so then what are we doing.

[frail bloom]

Idk what was this abt again

I don't remember

Lemme scroll up

Oh yeah you wanted armored komodoes in dlc

[obsidian shard]

That's funny asf nhl

[frail bloom]

You're a monster

[obsidian shard]

Your evil

[harsh egret]

yeah ive never been sarcastic before so i understand why u would believe me

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/worried-scared-oh-no-stop-it-fearful-gif-12534009

[frail bloom]

I didn't but you uttered blasphemy

Like actual heresy

Armored komodoes

🤮

[solid nacelle]

Armored komodos that have ballista cannons

[elder raven]

komodos 🤮

[solid nacelle]

Like the armored arachnotron

[harsh egret]

would be cool if they got different attacks in their armored version and then u break the armor and they play normally again

[green estuary]

chaingun komodos

[elder raven]

i hope the dlc adds a lot of enemies

[frail bloom]

Like the armored baron?

[harsh egret]

holy cooking

[warm ibex]

komodo ai that makes it run away mid fight 🤮🤮

[elder raven]

more than 3 like in the dlc

[harsh egret]

smth like that

[green estuary]

oh, so just the normal komodo ai

[obsidian shard]

I would take the Armored Arachnotron and Armored Mancubus route

[elder raven]

komodo code that added it to the game 🤮

[harsh egret]

what is this komodo slander, komodos are goated the fuck

[frail bloom]

Cool idea but how abt literally any other enemy then a beer belly freight truck cocaine lizard that likes to ragebait

[obsidian shard]

Ong,

[elder raven]

kill every komodo and laugh and live happy

[obsidian shard]

The lore also Says this lmao

[frail bloom]

The komodo is the ultimate ragebaiter

His fat ass can dodge your mace swing

[harsh egret]

samir is getting ragebaited by a huge cocaine lizard in a video game

[solid nacelle]

Not fond of komodos and their barrage of fireballs that break your shield and leave you open to spear attacks

[elder raven]

the komodo killed my grandma

[frail bloom]

How.

[green estuary]

doom games have a history of ragebait tbf

[frail bloom]

I never got this mad at an enemy

So ye it's working

[harsh egret]

just cuz u played on 150%

[warm ibex]

I ain't gonna pretend like fighting an enemy that chickens out and runs away halfway through the fight is any degree of peak

[elder raven]

lost souls, pain elementals, chaingunners, hell razers on some occasions, spirits

[frail bloom]

Ok

[onyx topaz]

the marauder

[frail bloom]

That's half of it

But!

[elder raven]

lock in sir they’re not that bad

[onyx topaz]

yeah but I find they don't really fit into eternal

they're too big of a lurch from how you fight the rest of the enemies

[mystic barn]

Arch-Viles

[harsh egret]

i just wish they werent hopping and vibrating around the geometry non stop

[frail bloom]

His rng fireballs are horrible, and he has a tendency to run around and especially in your face. There's also a chance you whiff your swing even tho it locks on, and then you friggin die

[warm ibex]

that shit too. the komodo wouldn't be bad at all if they could just stand and fight

[frail bloom]

Cool design like he looks genuinely awesome

[elder raven]

i think the point is that its a demon that you duel against/ change your fighting style to combat

[frail bloom]

But I hate him

[vapid lodge]

Impaler is amazing, all guns are, im not saying the chainshot is bad as of use terms.

But the design just screams a flail in my head

As mentioned, maybe im dense 😂

[onyx topaz]

maybe the impaler is objectively weaker but it was my favourite weapon to use in the whole game

[frail bloom]

The komodo is like purple goo in eternal

[onyx topaz]

comboing between melee/parries/charges and shooting powered up shots

[onyx topaz]

nah the komodo's not that bad

[frail bloom]

It is and I will die on this hill

[onyx topaz]

I wonder if the purple goo would've been less awful if it slowly reduced your speed instead of instantly stalling it

[frail bloom]

Rng fireballs🤮

[harsh egret]

its just not used well most of the time, thats it

[onyx topaz]

and maybe instead of preventing jumping it added a big delay as the doomguy winds up for a bigger jump to get out of the goop

[harsh egret]

would that be a thing only when in purple goo?

[onyx topaz]

yeah

[harsh egret]

uhhhh

for eternal that would suck ass

[onyx topaz]

obviously the purple goo is meant to restrict movement, but I think that preventing jumping altogether feels awful

[green estuary]

the impaler is the polar opposite of objectively weak

[warm ibex]

they should've instead inverted jumping while on purple goo

pressing the jump button sends you straight into the ground

[harsh egret]

lmfao i thought u didnt it like that but u did

[onyx topaz]

I heard people shitting on the impaler at launch, I got the game a while after

[green estuary]

something something "we got quicksand in doom before gta 6"

[harsh egret]

i dont remember but if people said that then what the hell lol

[onyx topaz]

is it me or does the dark ages' weapons feel kinda interchangeable in a way that gives me little reason to use all of them?

[frail bloom]

Cuz some ppl think judt cuz they don't understand smt the first 5 seconds they use then it's trash

[harsh egret]

its ok we will get the next doom game before gta 6

[onyx topaz]

although I think one thing stopping me from switching weapons more often is that when using a controller the weapon selector is complete garbage

[warm ibex]

to be entirely fair some people were shitting on absolutely everything at launch. Comments were a mess of "this weapon is objectively terrible because I'm still trying to use it like its Eternal counterpart and getting my ass kicked because of it"

[harsh egret]

how does the update with the doublepress to select the 2nd weapon in a slot work on console?

[warm ibex]

it doesn't

[harsh egret]

welp

[onyx topaz]

I tested that a little bit (PC with xbox controller), but it seems to force the animation to switch to the next weapon before you can go to the one after that

[warm ibex]

you select the weapon class using the weapon wheel and then press what was previously the mod swap button to equip the next gun

I don't think it's bad, and certainly not "garbage" lol

[harsh egret]

ah

[onyx topaz]

e.g. if I was on the shotgun and could just quickly tap the switch button 3 times to switch straight to the skullcrushers, that'd be awesome. But it forces me to go through switching to the spike guns, then the plasma guns, before that

borderlands 3 does it that way and it's real good

and I'd imagine 4 does it too but I haven't played that one yet

[elder raven]

oh yeah important question for the next update, particularly for pc players: which hotkeys are you guys gonna be using to swap runes and melee?

[mystic barn]

No, they definitely all have their uses

[frail bloom]

Wait how is it gonna work on console

[warm ibex]

why can't you just... switch straight to the skullcrushers with the weapon wheel like everyone else?

[harsh egret]

some side mouse button prob

[elder raven]

d-pad

[frail bloom]

Like the arrow button?

[onyx topaz]

yeah but as I established the weapon wheel's shit, it's way too sluggish

[elder raven]

i think?

[frail bloom]

Quick what's a d-pad

[onyx topaz]

and unlike the previous games time doesn't slow down while it's open

[warm ibex]

you can change that in the settings

[onyx topaz]

the four directional buttons that aren't the face buttons

[frail bloom]

Yes ok it is those

[elder raven]

nuke the uac facility NOW

[onyx topaz]

which setting? I looked for something like that but couldn't find it

[frail bloom]

But like does clicking one just keep switching the melee?

Or do I have to assign each button

[onyx topaz]

hell I'd ditch the quick swap button entirely if it meant being able to instantly open the wheel and flick switch to another weapon

as someone who spent a ton of time making a weapon wheel for their own FPS, I think about this stuff a lot

and even mine's not perfect, but with my system you press a button to switch between two different ones

[warm ibex]

and that's also not even true, I'm testing it right now

[harsh egret]

lol ye i was gonna say

[onyx topaz]

hm maybe it's a really tiny difference? I never noticed while playing

[warm ibex]

slows time to a crawl, incredibly noticeable

maybe not as much if you're playing on high speeds

[elder raven]

any of you give me a dark ages ripatorium challenge

[frail bloom]

I gotchu

[harsh egret]

maybe the transition between the slowmo back to normal speed is instant and thats why u dont think about it? i dont remember

[onyx topaz]

I played on ultraviolence and didn't touch any of the other difficulty settings

[frail bloom]

(5)"Plutonia" loadout:

20 soldiers
10 heated metal shield soldiers
5 unheated metal shield soldiers
5 energy shield soldiers
3 chaingunners
6 imp stalkers
1 nightmare stalker
3 pinky riders
1 arachnotron
3 revenants
2 revenant leaders
1 acolyte leader

Have fun

[elder raven]

son 😭 im gonna play it rn

[onyx topaz]

maybe it's more that switching disrupts the pace and it becomes more obnoxious because I'm not 100% confident that my selected weapon will actually apply

[uneven dragon]

plutonia loadout
only 3 chaingunners
only 3 revenants

[harsh egret]

yk what ill play it also rn

[frail bloom]

I'm being held back hoovy

[onyx topaz]

dunno what they did differently to 2016 and eternal's weapon wheels, because those were fine

[frail bloom]

I understand your point but it's impossible

[warm ibex]

weapon wheel open delay, it's in the "CONTROLS" tab under "MISCELLANEOUS". You can also select a weapon using the wheel before the wheel's visual even pops up on your screen if you're fast enough, allowing you to essentially swap to an entirely different weapon class without ever seeing the on-screen popup

[frail bloom]

I need more enemy customization

[frail bloom]

It ain't hard trust

[uneven dragon]

why do they even have restrictions on how many enemies of a certain type you can have

[elder raven]

its set up lets get it

[harsh egret]

yeah doesnt sound too hard tbh

[uneven dragon]

shouldn't the goal of the ripatorium be that you're able to dick around

[frail bloom]

It's just simple fun

[onyx topaz]

brb opening up to check, cheers

[frail bloom]

Idk and it makes me a bit annoyed

[warm ibex]

hope that feels better for you man

[frail bloom]

If I want 60 imp stalkers, I want 60 imp stalkers

[harsh egret]

u wont have a playstation anymore tho

[frail bloom]

Nah my ps5 is a different beast

[harsh egret]

ah my bad

[frail bloom]

See you get it

[warm ibex]

the single ps5 created specifically to handle 60 imp stalkers

[elder raven]

wasnt that bad

im gonna do some harder settings then

[frail bloom]

You want another?

I got them in spades

[elder raven]

another and im gonna do the same one in harder setting sfirst

[frail bloom]

I'm a lucky guy

Can I have atleast 30 imp stalkers

I really just wanna fight a bunch of imp stalkers

[harsh egret]

in ripatorium 3.0

[frail bloom]

Sweet

[harsh egret]

no but i cant imagine it isnt smth they could implement

maybe its a surprise they havent shown us yet (cope)

[frail bloom]

I would like it

I want to know what 60 stone imps looks like

[harsh egret]

it would bring it closer to perfection lmao

a couple rounds and then a fun troll round with 30 nightmare imps before continuing :))

[frail bloom]

Ye sounds awesome