the-dark-ages

[cerulean pagoda]

besides a devil may cry game is already like a hacknslash doom eternal, let go of one control and die

without all the resource management if you dont count the health vital stars

and no im not talking about 2

[dark thunder]

i just dont see how they can keep topping everything

[frail bloom]

Ruh roh

[dark thunder]

I couldn't imagine a doom game without a dash or meat hook and now i cant imagine one without a shield lmao

I know they'll innovate somehow

[warm ibex]

people have been saying this shit since 2016 lol

[dark thunder]

it just proves how good they are

[harsh egret]

next doom game gonna have some crazy sliding or wall running and jumping tech or smth and ur gonna say the same thing

[warm ibex]

or maybe it proves how limited the community's imagination is 👀👀👀

[dark thunder]

everyone switching up on tda was crazy

[cerulean pagoda]

you cant top a doom game especially not eternal and tda, the best you can have is something on par

but different enough so everyone gets to pick a favourite

[warm ibex]

and then they'll top it in about four years lol

[dark thunder]

I saw someone say that tda was the new black sheep lower than doom 3 which is crazy

[harsh egret]

lmao

[warm ibex]

just flat out untrue lol

[cerulean pagoda]

probably not even a real person

doom 3 isnt bad but i mean like, above TDA, cmon

[frail bloom]

Gimme name

[dark thunder]

gman....gmanlives

[uncut needle]

maxed out my nightmare save

forgot about the last wraith stone and missed the pulverizer by 100 dmg

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doomguy-doom-eternal-doom-eternal-shotgun-load-doom-eternal-shotgun-gif-20646766

[cerulean pagoda]

its time to rip and tear

wait i dont have doom eternal installed

[dark thunder]

He posted the review when the embargo was lifted and titled it "so doom the dark ages is out" and everyone commented how the title was wrong since it wasn't out yet and then he changed it and left a passive aggressive comment pinned

[uncut needle]

man i just cant quite get the rhythm of TDA still after 50 hours like am i supposed to play slow on purpose?

[frail bloom]

This scene was quite the suicide mission

I don't know how they held the demons off for so long

[cerulean pagoda]

idk if you wanna not play slow just get good at chaining ssg shots you wont get punished for bashing in like the vergil fight from dmc5

[frail bloom]

Since the entire sentinel army was like devastated or smt

[harsh egret]

tda aint even that slow ngl

[warm ibex]

it's literally three main characters and like six nameless soldiers, no idea why they didn't bring an entire army for the final push against Ahzrak lol

[dark thunder]

lore wise it probably didn't take the slayer long to get to ahzrak

[frail bloom]

Yeah and some civilians

Like bruh😭

[cerulean pagoda]

its not as fast as eternal even on 130% but its still pretty fast and i do have to rely on reflexes

[uncut needle]

top reason doom the dark ages is actually stupid and dumb
-no cutscene of Valen using the hammer

[frail bloom]

What does it mean when a game's combat loop is repetitive

Like what would be considered repetitive

[cerulean pagoda]

mindless buttonmashing

[frail bloom]

Saw some guy named Andre he's been meatriding eternal for weeks

[cerulean pagoda]

if theres a consequence to not mindlessly mash away the mechanics will get more entertaining and engaging so youll not relaly complain its repeatative because theres a purpose to it

[frail bloom]

Like on eeevveery comment section

Woow eternal so good, on every dark ages stream

[uncut needle]

TDA is fun but eternals the best one

[frail bloom]

For me it's dark ages

[cerulean pagoda]

you cant compare them its just a matter of which style of gameplay you prefer more

[frail bloom]

The combat loop speaks to me more

[cerulean pagoda]

i prefer eternals gameplay by a slight but TDA is nothing to laugh at its like crunchy fun

being closer to the action in TDA with majority of the weapons being designed for close range makes it more entertaining as a power fantasy imo

[warm ibex]

I prefer TDA's gameplay over Eternal's but I don't play it enough to truly enjoy it

[uncut needle]

exactly eternal speaks to me most.

i kinda wanna describe it as
Eternal: you can kill anything in 0.3s with combos

TDA: you can kill 40 things in 3 seconds by locking in

[frail bloom]

Parrying to me is like breaking a weakpoint in eternal

[cerulean pagoda]

the sound design of the parry is really good too, just like the weakpoint one

[frosty roost]

tda gameplay is more for me tbh

[frail bloom]

I just like the heavier feel

And it plays muuuuch better on console

Feels so smooth

[cerulean pagoda]

it does, i play both on console

[harsh egret]

i love both

[frail bloom]

Prob plays better on steamdeck too

[cerulean pagoda]

i also have it on PC but i dont play it much on it

[frail bloom]

(Not in terms of framerate)

[warm ibex]

weapon swapping is slower in TDA but has better flow (outside of a few specific swaps, like rocket launcher to anything else)

[uncut needle]

Eternal
Eternals bossfights

[warm ibex]

dark lord

[uncut needle]

bruh dark lord is so insane how did they release that

[cerulean pagoda]

i only bought it on pc just to play it outside of my house if i ever wanted to im not much of a k&m guy im better with a controller

[uncut needle]

im ngl Enhanced Azhrak is such a stupid jump from the rest of the game it rolled me back in may the animations and speed was like 3x harder than the first 20 chapters

[cerulean pagoda]

enhanced azhrak is a pretty good fight, i like how it actually feels like a brawl

[solar cairn]

I forgot about Eternal at a speed of 150 in general, the speed of demons and events is so high that the pulse jumps to 200

[cerulean pagoda]

lowkey my fav fight in the series

[uncut needle]

idk i think the only semi decent boss fight that feels good in the modern trilogy is Samur

[cerulean pagoda]

eternals boss to enemy thing may seem like it makes the actual boss encounters seem forgettable but theyre very memorable, im sure we all remember the marauder & doom hunter intro cutscene

in TDA the boss to miniboss is even less memorable

[frosty roost]

the marauder is my favourite intro but holy fuck he's a pain in my ass to defeat

[cerulean pagoda]

for me not really

[dark thunder]

Why do we not have a resurrected slayer skin?!??!?!

need that

[cerulean pagoda]

if you fight him enough times you get his spatial awareness down and you will basically kill it every single time

[uncut needle]

Cyberdemon: cake
Hell guards: cake
Spider mastermind: fun but kinda ez

Doom hunters: ez
Marauder: bruh cmon
Gladiator: eh its ok
(apparently Kalibas counts as a boss)
Khan Makyr: cheesable
Icon: pretty solid tbh

Maligog counts?
Seraphim: really good

Dark lord 🗿

Kreed: cake
Old one: basically a cutscene
Enhanced azhrak: difficult jump but its aight
Ahzrak and with: ehhh kinda mediocre for a final fight

[dark thunder]

ahzrak is the best fight they've ever done imo

second is icon of sin

[cerulean pagoda]

the cyberdemon as a fight was torture 3 years ago when i was still a coward on hurt me plenty but now hes piss easy

[uncut needle]

yeah cyberdemon is hard on a first playthrough

[frosty roost]

for me I can't tell the difference on how many feet i'm supposed to hit him at

[harsh egret]

this is gonna be a long ass stream

bro is still stuck on the first encounter

[uncut needle]

lol who

[frosty roost]

hugo

[harsh egret]

[frosty roost]

he's playing on nightmare

[dark thunder]

Best way on this is go for tyrant and ssg him and when he's stunned u melee his ass and repeat

Dude he's hardly parrying lmao

[frail bloom]

Wow I disagree with a lot of this

[uncut needle]

make a list

[frail bloom]

Also you missed the vagary, agaddon and komodo

[cerulean pagoda]

the khan makyr fight is pretty underrated i like how it tests your skills with your aggression

[uncut needle]

i just read em off the wiki

[cerulean pagoda]

but it gets easy once you get good at blowing up makyr drone heads

[dark thunder]

love the khan maykr fight it kicked my ass the very first time

[harsh egret]

ye heres my hot take, icon of sin is the worst boss of the modern doom trilogy

[uncut needle]

i filmed my entire nightmare playthru and just put the vids in my editing software

14hr35m bruh

[green estuary]

agreed
I fuckin hate it

[uncut needle]

im never getting gold skin cuz this game is so long

[harsh egret]

not including dark lord tho obv

actually no you know what

[dark thunder]

what would u say the best fight in eternal is including dlc

[harsh egret]

worse than dark lord actually

fuck it

[dark thunder]

I like them all

[harsh egret]

not many i think are that good but the most fun for me is either gladiator or seraphim

[uncut needle]

masterful bait

[harsh egret]

nope.

[cerulean pagoda]

icon of sin fight is entertaining at first but after you learn how to use your crucible it gets easy tbf

[uncut needle]

ok which boss has the best music tho

[harsh egret]

im not one to bait

[cerulean pagoda]

someone tell hugo to chain ssg shots i cant stand watching him not parry

[uncut needle]

dark lord lowkey has a really good song in the 3rd phase

[harsh egret]

yes

[dark thunder]

best to worst for me 1. Icon of sin 2. gladiator 3. Seraphim 4. Dark lord

[harsh egret]

crazy

[dark thunder]

I really like the icon fight and the aura, the music and the tension is good

[uncut needle]

just realizing most the boss themes are really forgettable i can only recall dark lord and icon

[dark thunder]

BUT

out of them all in all the games.....

[green estuary]

it's actually a toss up of which one I enjoy less between the icon and the dark lord
icon is literally just sensory overload (stupidly loud, ridiculous screenshake, flashing lights everywhere), which is easily my least part of eternal (not to mention it makes you use the crucible with its clunky ass animations)
and the dark lord is just incredibly boring and annoying

[cerulean pagoda]

my boss tier list is

#1: Enhanced azhrak
#2: Gladiator
#3: Icon of sin
#4: Khan makyr
and after that idk

[dark thunder]

AHZRAK FIGHT IS THE GOAT OF FIGHTS

[cerulean pagoda]

i love the enhanced azhrak fight

[dark thunder]

Oh wait I meant to include khan maykr as 2nd fav fight

[cerulean pagoda]

the azhrak and witch fight is interesting but its just piss easy

[dark thunder]

gladiator is too easy for me now i know when to stun him

[harsh egret]

i just think the dark lord is a lil more fun than the icon of sin fight

[green estuary]

also to change the subject briefly, tda does not look that fun with full slow mo

[cerulean pagoda]

it just feels like a doom eternal platforming section i have to get over to beat the game

[dark thunder]

going ham on an aggadon with no slow mo is insane

[uncut needle]

yeah the parry slow mo is a bit much tbh

[harsh egret]

on paper it sounds cool to fight a huge boss like that but it doesnt play well in eternal imo

[frail bloom]

Cyberdemon: cake(but fun)
Hell guards: cake(kinda fun)
Spider mastermind: alr but kinda boring

Doom hunters: ez(fun)
Marauder: eh kinda jank
Gladiator: also kinda jank
(apparently Kalibas counts as a boss)((and it sucks))
Khan Makyr: cheesable, boring and jank
Icon: 💤
Maligog: the boring ass box
Seraphim: tests your skills really well, but unfun to play
Dark lord: super dissapointing, rng fest
Vagary: goated bossfight but easy
Agaddon: alr but red attack is annoying
Komodo: annoying
Kreed: not hard, alr gameplay
Old one: spectacle is cool, but like yawn
Enhanced azhrak: difficult jump but very tense
Ahzrak and witch: good duo fight, alr

[dark thunder]

plus urdak is like one of the coolest places

The Holt is the prettiest looking place in the doom universe

[cerulean pagoda]

oh holy shit the aggadon hunter red attack

youre there adrenaline brawling and then all of a sudden he summons red slicey flying thing instabreaking your shield and die to the next attack

[frail bloom]

Yup that's my opinion

[uncut needle]

i love the one aggadon attack where he does an overhead strike and it takes a full 3s for him to swing

[dark thunder]

Everyone gangsta till they fight the maligog box on ultra nightmare

[uncut needle]

hey wait why cant they talk in tda

[frail bloom]

It's easy

But it's tedious so it sucks

[dark thunder]

yeah but its so intense on ultra nightmare

[harsh egret]

my ranking on bosses 1-10

Cyberdemon: 6
Hell guards: 7
Spider mastermind: 7

Doom hunters: 7
Marauder: 7
Gladiator: 8.5
Khan Makyr: 6
Icon: 3.5
Maligog: 5
Seraphim: 8
Dark lord: 4

Vagary: 7
Agaddon: 8
Komodo: 8.5
Kreed: 8.5
Old one: 7 (just pure fun really idk)
Enhanced azhrak: 9
Ahzrak and witch: 8

[frail bloom]

Bruh I should've done numbers

Hol on

[uncut needle]

Arent Aggadons from Earth? It said so in eternal. whats the deal with the aggadon doom hunter thing

[dark thunder]

At some point they go extinct and then the hell priest resurrects them into the doom hunters

The earth in eternal is a different one from the og game though i think

[frail bloom]

my ranking on bosses 1-10

Cyberdemon: 9
Hell guards: 7
Spider mastermind: 7

Doom hunters: 7
Marauder: 6
Gladiator: 8
Khan Makyr: 5
Icon: 3
Maligog: 2
Seraphim: 5
Dark lord: 3
Vagary: 9
Agaddon: 7
Komodo: 7
Kreed: 7
Old one: 6
Enhanced azhrak: 8
Ahzrak and witch: 7

[uncut needle]

but if theyre Earthlings why are they being used by Azhrak

[frail bloom]

Here's my list

[uncut needle]

ok guys take back everything i just said i forgot about Spider Mastermind's song thats the best one no contest

[harsh egret]

vagary better than azhrak the fuck

[dark thunder]

They just got assimilated somehow

[cerulean pagoda]

Cyberdemon: hard at first but piss easy when you get good
hell guards: cake
spider mastermind: boring

doom hunters: ez, you get nervous for it on higher difficulties, but fun and easy anyway
marauder: so easy i dont know how to describe it

gladiator: fairly hard but easy
kalibas: piss easy
khan makyr: fun but easy
icon of sin: MOBILE TURRET MICRO MISSILES FUCK OH LOOK AT THIS SO POWRFUL AHH

Maligog: BOX
seraphim: SO HARD LOL ITS NOT A BOSS ITS DOOM ETERNAL HARD

Dark lord: Resposition and shoot

Vagary: Easy
Aggadon: Fuck the red attack
Komodo: SO MUCH HEALTH

Kreed: Piss easy i bet i could do it with one hand
Old one: EAAASYYYY
Enhanced azhrak: PEAK
Azhrak and witch: Cool concept but cake

Dlc bosses: Let them cook

[frail bloom]

Yup and you'll never change my mind

[harsh egret]

[uncut needle]

old one above icon is actually insane

[frail bloom]

Icon is so jank to play it's unfun

[harsh egret]

old one is actually fun at least

[frail bloom]

Shooting giant body parts feels kinda unintuitive

[harsh egret]

not hard but just fun

[cerulean pagoda]

SOMEONE TELL HUGO TO SSG CANCEL I CANT STAND WATHING THIS

[uncut needle]

might just be me but every single mech and dragon section is like a bonus level from an arcade game theyre literally filler content and basically a button masher

[frail bloom]

Ye they're pace breakers

That reinforce your parry/dash button

[cerulean pagoda]

this is when repeatative gameplay is acutally valid

[frail bloom]

Just like how parkour segments in eternal reinforce your dash and double jump

[cerulean pagoda]

atlan sections are piss easy but its annoying as hell to get backstabbed by a titan

[harsh egret]

i feel like mech segments are fun pace breakers atm

https://tenor.com/view/smg4-smg4skill-issue-skill-issue-smg4mario-smg4skill-gif-26104493

[frail bloom]

Hey he mentioned gargoyles

[uncut needle]

theyre fun but feel so tacked on. didnt hugo say theyd be fully fledged systems with upgrades

[dark thunder]

yeah try atlans with lowest dodge pal

[frail bloom]

Nothing hugo??

Sadge

[solar cairn]

Vagary 9?

He’s a whip pillow, he can’t do anything

[frail bloom]

He did say that...

[uncut needle]

atlan levels have the same difficulty as cookie clicker tho i think old one might be the worst boss fight IMO actually

[frail bloom]

Ez=/= unfun

[harsh egret]

just makes them harder in an annoying way and mech segments arent even supposed to be annoying or hard, its supposed to be easy and fun

[green estuary]

my own experiences, assuming no superweapon usage:

cyberdemon: not too hard but has a couple annoying attacks (7.5/10 fun)
hell guards: slightly harder than the cyberdemon overall but no attacks are that difficult (6.5/10)
spider mastermind: actually pretty tough because of her big health bar and attack variety (9/10)

doom hunters: not very hard unless you get greedy and try to get close to them (7/10)
gladiator: kinda hard but moreso just because of how inconsistently he staggers on his green eye flash (5/10)
marauder:
khan maykr: more annoying with her fire hazards than actually hard (3.5/10)
icon of sin: without the bfg to destroy his body parts, is pretty hard; also incredibly unfun (1/10)
maligog: actually the hardest boss in eternal for me for whatever reason lol (2.5/10)
seraphim: not as hard as maligog for whatever reason but still challenging (6/10)

kreed: meme boss fight, but it's fun and the boss fight track is absolutely insane (7.5/10)
the old one: mech fight, just eh, nothing really special beyond the amazing music (4/10)
enhanced ahzrak: just a great fight all around; manages to feel like you're going 1v1 with your biggest adversary while simultaneously being quite difficult (9.5/10)
ahzrak + witch: actually pretty fun, but not all that hard (6/10)

[cerulean pagoda]

seraphim being easier than maligog wtf

[uncut needle]

whats the track name for Kreed's fight?

[cerulean pagoda]

divine retribution

[warm ibex]

there was originally more to them, just like the dragon. extra stuff was cut for some reason but can be seen in concept art and early footage

[cerulean pagoda]

its the worst track in tda imo idk why

[green estuary]

wither and writhe is the phase 2 track which is the one that goes unreasonably hard

[cerulean pagoda]

it just feels so bland

[frail bloom]

Bro skipped over the old one

[green estuary]

oh right

[uncut needle]

cuz its the worst one

[cerulean pagoda]

hugo almost swore

[frail bloom]

Your mum

[uncut needle]

im pretty sure i could make a script to randomly press left click and space and it could beat the old one in like 4 tries

[harsh egret]

i would lose my shit if i were to be stuck on an encounter for 40 mins

[frail bloom]

Nah colossus unleashed takes that cake

[uncut needle]

wherest he stream

[frail bloom]

Divine retribution is fun to listen to

[cerulean pagoda]

i can go on 6 hours being stuck on a bossfight

[harsh egret]

bethesda on twitch and youtube

[cerulean pagoda]

i have mastered the art of patience by withstanding ironwood twice in god of war ragnarok

[green estuary]

HUGO THIS FIGHT ISN'T THAT HARD

[uncut needle]

when ur 50 min into the dark lord fight cuz he wont flash green but the music is gas so ur lowkey vibing

[cerulean pagoda]

he doesnt know ssg cancels yet

[green estuary]

this isn't even the hardest fight of the level

[frail bloom]

Clearly as y'all can see I like the decently big bosses we fight as the slayer in a wide circular arena

[harsh egret]

thats why im saying this stream is gonna take forever

[cerulean pagoda]

someone teach him ssg cancels so he can progress

[frail bloom]

It's why I gave the cyberdemon and vagary a 9

[harsh egret]

its actually crazy how long he has been stuck on this

[green estuary]

ain't nobody need ssg cancels

[frail bloom]

Wait

Is this the first fight???????

[harsh egret]

yes.

[green estuary]

yes

[frail bloom]

Bro

[uncut needle]

whats the best track in TDA u cant say unchained or infernal chasm

[frail bloom]

what

[green estuary]

what lies below

[harsh egret]

what lies below

[frail bloom]

Boooiii for me it's unholy siege

[harsh egret]

lol

[ebon lynx]

Battle on the Blackened Tide

[uncut needle]

cant say that either i forgot (those and blood red are the only ones ik)

[harsh egret]

HE DID IT

[frail bloom]

Blood red if I'm feeling elemental

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/me-and-bro-celebrating-best-friends-squid-game-2-my-guy-gif-8389215730122450876

[cerulean pagoda]

i remember being stuck on vergil for that long on my very hard dmc3 playthrough

[frail bloom]

Honestly it might be from the ashes

[uncut needle]

oyea thats gas whats that one for

[frail bloom]

Or what lies below, or into tje void

Bruh I can't pick

[cerulean pagoda]

theomachy

[frail bloom]

So much peak

[harsh egret]

"thats gas" 🥀

[cerulean pagoda]

the song represents everything on prince azhraks character

[dark thunder]

top 3 from the ashes, unchained predator/infernal chasm, and into the void

[uncut needle]

" using 🥀 " 🥀

[harsh egret]

💀

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/my-man-my-man-hd-my-man4k-gif-23532578

[uncut needle]

what level is lies below for?

[frail bloom]

Top 5

Unholy siege, into the void, from the ashes, blood red, what lies below

[cerulean pagoda]

Theomachy
What lies below
Another track which name i forgot cuz i was too distracted vibing to its peakness i forgot its name

[frail bloom]

The top 5 are all equal btw

[cerulean pagoda]

hellspawn rift maybe

[frail bloom]

NOOOOOOO

Sorry

[cerulean pagoda]

i love its classic doom vibes with the metal being fairly upbeat instead of shoving all the goth vocals

[uncut needle]

Azhrak
-becomes necromancer
-doesnt revive dark lord
is he stupid

[frail bloom]

Not my thing

[green estuary]

temple of lomarith, belly of the beast, old one boss fight

[harsh egret]

theomachy and apotheosis also great

[dark thunder]

Into the void, between hex and flame, from the ashes, unchained predator, unholy siege

[ebon lynx]

Ancestral Beast + komodo fight slaps as well

[cerulean pagoda]

hes confirmed stupid because he killed the slayers pet

[dark thunder]

fuck theomachy is good

[cerulean pagoda]

theomachuy is peak and my favourite track

[uncut needle]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-the-dark-ages-doom-true-launch-the-true-doom-launch-the-true-gif-17039720600748597696

[dark thunder]

THERE'S TOO MANY GOOD ONES TO FIT IN A TOP 5 HELP

[cerulean pagoda]

the tda tracks are just so good

[ebon lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-morgan-freeman-true-nodding-gif-13973817878387504960

[cerulean pagoda]

im not even a metal fan i think metal is just irritating and chaotic to listen to but TDA makes it sound fun and enjoyable

[uncut needle]

Top voices in Doom
1- Kreed's Assistant for some reason
2- Samuel Hayden
3- Khan Makyr

[dark thunder]

just image what they're cooking for dlc osts

[ebon lynx]

god yes

[uncut needle]

whats the best non mick riff and why is it blood swamps

[cerulean pagoda]

MY MAN HUGO IS BLOCKING THE RED SLICEY THINGS FROM THE AGGADON ON NIGHTMARE

DOES HE KNOW

[frail bloom]

Bro I can't wait

[harsh egret]

blood swamps is goated fr no cap i cant icl

[dark thunder]

A lot of the osts are like classic doom's and they're amazing

Has anyone seen david levy's take on TDA's OST???

[uncut needle]

now ur speaking my language unc frfr no skibidi

[dark thunder]

it's FIRE

[green estuary]

that's viable
as long as you aren't standing too close

[green estuary]

not really a fan tbh, as much as I love his stuff in TAG

[uncut needle]

wats the best 1

[ebon lynx]

I listened to it and thought it was really mid, but I tend to need to listen to something a few times before it clicks so idk

[frail bloom]

Wait

[green estuary]

honestly the blood swamps is the best track in the whole game, mick's songs included

[frail bloom]

Hugo c'mon drop smt

[dark thunder]

the heavy fighting

[harsh egret]

hugo said Marok will be involved in the dlc

mic drop

[uncut needle]

i wanna say true but cultist base hits me for some reason and TOTTFIY

[frail bloom]

Ok time to add

All we know abt DLC so far:

• Will expand mechanics from the base game in both combat and exploration
-Will be meaningful changes and not tacked on
-"from 2016 to Eternal"(to some extent)
-will increase mobility options
-new melee weapon(axe or Halberg)?
• Exploration has good backtracking and is especially required in this dlc(to progress meaningfully)
• There will be a hub(most likely the Kreeds ship)
• The puzzles are really fun

• a tool(mechanic) given will lead to some interesting traversal puzzles, not necessarily skill based like Eternal(but seems to be a huge factor either way based on its emphasis, and that will influence the puzzles and movement options in this dlc)
  -lots of secrets and "optional" content that unlocks over time, not all at once when the campaign is finished
  -some Metroidvania-esque elements
  • There will be new ai that shake things up
  • We will most likely be hunting the high council in dlc
  -dlc will expand the story in ways that people want
• "Will there be cutscenes in dlc", Hugo's response, " It'll be different, but there will still be a story"
  -Marok is involved in the dlc(implies a larger role)
  • We have a dlc concept art

[topaz oasis]

watchu mean bruh, if that was the case, it wouldn't be possible to land a 4-piece fist combo on a tyrant or aggadon because they would recover before you could land the whole string but you actually can

[green estuary]

the only thing they fear is you is incredibly overrated
great track, don't get me wrong but I can probably list six or seven of mick's own tracks from eternal that are better

[uncut needle]

best songs by each track artist
BFG Division
Blood Swamps
Unchained Predator
(Im probably forgetting some1)

[frail bloom]

No there is actual gameplay footage of the speed being the same
@solid nacelle the speed doesn't change right????

[green estuary]

you didn't include any of David's tracks
blood swamps is by andrew

it does

[frail bloom]

No it doesn't

[dark thunder]

Heaven's wrath.... the ULTIMATE

[uneven dragon]

is this just for modern doom

[uncut needle]

which ones did david do

[frail bloom]

Unless they fixed it and I haven't realized😭

[uneven dragon]

cause you need ones for levy and hite

[frail bloom]

Everytime I kick I get it

[topaz oasis]

I've noticed that when playing at 150%, the game reverts back to base speed during some interactions

[dark thunder]

trial of maligog

[green estuary]

it looks and feels incredibly jank because it's sped up 50% artificially, but yes your melee attack comes out faster
otherwise you wouldn't be able to get in any melee hits after a falter

[topaz oasis]

maybe meleeing is one of those

[solid nacelle]

I think it changes but by a small amount but I'm not really sure

[uncut needle]

...and?

[frail bloom]

You had a vid comparing them no?

[cerulean pagoda]

what mobility mechanics would there be in the DLC

[dark thunder]

Uac atlantica, immora, and others i cant remember

[harsh egret]

didnt david do immora

[ebon lynx]

as a fister I can attest that it does go faster

[harsh egret]

ye and uac atlantica

[solid nacelle]

I did but that was kind of a sloppy example I think

[uncut needle]

ok its immora solely for that one super fast beat moment

[frail bloom]

Huh ok

[harsh egret]

immora is mixed so poorly in game holy fk

[dark thunder]

Andrew and David complement each other they're amazing

[green estuary]

uac atlantica and trial of maligog are his best ones

[frail bloom]

Oh wait

[solid nacelle]

Josh is addressing the dev menu stuff lol

[cerulean pagoda]

off topic here but does anyone notice that the chainshot weapon is a bit clunky after charging it from parries

[frail bloom]

Ok yeah

So it was there the entire time

[dark thunder]

He did the opening and end credits for tag 1 and 2

[green estuary]

me who skipped all the credits:

[warm ibex]

see? there we go

[frail bloom]

Well yeah I had a feeling

[dark thunder]

a time travelling area would have been cool

but this means they have something BETTER

[uncut needle]

when im in a "shoehorned in last minute" contest and my opponent is Marok

[frail bloom]

Bro you're losing

RIP

[uncut needle]

like imagine if the dlc ends with some idk cheesy mcu reddit type teaser to something in 2016 or eternal

[frail bloom]

Nah it won't happen

[uneven dragon]

lol tru

[frail bloom]

Tag 2 already happened

[uncut needle]

like the slayer JUST got done making the hookshot before he gets trapped in the obsidian temple

[solid nacelle]

We're gonna have ourselves one doom 2016

[frail bloom]

Uh that's def not happening

[warm ibex]

if anything it'll tease the next game, which should either be something between TDA and Civil War or the Civil War itself

[uncut needle]

itd be funni tho

[frail bloom]

Waaaay too far in the timeline

[frank ermine]

Hello everyone, good day!
I'm not a gamer but I'm here to ask for your help
There's this guy I've liked for a while now and he likes Doom and I'd like to gift him a Doom-related drawing
However Idk where to find an HD of the original artwork, I'd like to see all the details before drawing on my own
I'm specifically looking for the HD version of the picture used in the "Doom The Dark Ages Premium Edition"
I tried to google but the results are all over the place or they go straight to online shops
If anyone could help, it would be appreciated. 🙏

[dark thunder]

Read the marok wiki it might give an idea of what happens next

[uncut needle]

"Marok? Yeah he's the Goat."

[cerulean pagoda]

hes not getting trapped under the obsidian temple anytime in TDA that would end the medevial thing too fast and will leave no space for more medevial doom

[warm ibex]

I'll send the high quality pic in DMs since I don't think it'll load in full quality through a pic link

[uncut needle]

i wonder if theyll show novik's death and why hes a ghost

[cerulean pagoda]

no way midnight was the one to continue the bury the light reference i made in chat

[dark thunder]

novik could still be alive, valen was a ghost in tag 2 and he was still alive

[uncut needle]

oh true yeah
why the heck do they live so long anyhow

[cerulean pagoda]

novik was also a ghost in eternal i think

[frail bloom]

Valen lived in Hell

[cerulean pagoda]

the makyrs began siphoning the slayers primeval energy and began puting them in the setinels in exchange for their energy(a shitty guess)

[frail bloom]

Hell warps time

Simple as that

[cerulean pagoda]

oh nvm

[uncut needle]

im just gonna game theory that Thira teaches them how to astral project or sum

[frail bloom]

Bruh it was only Valen

And clearly we know why

[cerulean pagoda]

we see noviks hologram thingy in the worst level of all doom(exultia)

[frail bloom]

Ye it's prob some sentinel recording

[cerulean pagoda]

its the same colour as thiras energy, could it be related

[frail bloom]

It's like leaving a voice mail

But convoluted

[green estuary]

if I had a nickel for each time a modern doom game had a terrible second level, I'd have 2 nickels
which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice

[frail bloom]

Exultia is soooo drab

[cerulean pagoda]

exultia is terrible

why purple goo why

[harsh egret]

damn, i think exultia is fun

[cerulean pagoda]

why battery pickup animation

[uncut needle]

but it got da dog

exultia is fun until u play UN then you hate it

[cerulean pagoda]

die to the arachnotron in purple goo

[green estuary]

bro is not beating this gore nest in one try lmao

[uncut needle]

i dont wanna be that guy but thats a skissue if u die to that

[harsh egret]

who is rating doom levels based on how they are on UN

[uncut needle]

its just exultia because its kinda long and slow and when ur restarting UN its by far the most annoying

[cerulean pagoda]

it is a skill issue but i dont go on saying the game is a bad game just because im not good at srviving purple goo

its a nnoying as hell

[green estuary]

ye ok hugo died lmao

[harsh egret]

someone should mod purple goo everywhere on the floor in every level

hurry up hugo i gotta sleep soon

[cerulean pagoda]

i gotta study soon

[harsh egret]

i got a presentation in 10 hours from now

[solar spoke]

don't worry, Hugo's gonna lock in

[cerulean pagoda]

theres a test tommorow i should be studying like hell rn but im gonna wait till hugo beats the game

[harsh egret]

crazy he first tried this lol

[cerulean pagoda]

comeon hugo over this i need to begin my four hour study

the longer hugo takes to finish his stream, the stronger i will have to be to stay awake at night studying

COME ON JUST SKIP ALL THE ENCOUNTERS

pls first try azhrak and witch this fight is piss easy

hes using the life sigils

[green estuary]

bruh the impaler has so much aim assist

[cerulean pagoda]

steal a soul for a second chance but you will never become a man

[harsh egret]

ggs

[frail bloom]

Did he finish the level I ain't on the stream

[cerulean pagoda]

GGS GGS

[harsh egret]

yh he is in the final cutscene rn

[frail bloom]

Oh awesome

[cerulean pagoda]

HE TOTALLY DIDNT USE 3 LIFE SIGILS

[harsh egret]

now shadowdrop master campaign

[cerulean pagoda]

(sarcasm he used so many life sigils)

[obsidian shard]

Anything revealed

[frosty roost]

oh i didn't know about that

[solid nacelle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1378414770763595933/1431050283105910824/Screen_Recording_20251023_154127_YouTube_1.mp4?ex=68fc00ef&is=68faaf6f&hm=bf6bf2a3e1bf084c17fb4de3cb1b81e95d560106139cf452acc4b85d82b49cdd&

[harsh egret]

And i have noted
"Marok will be involved in the DLC, meaning he will play a bigger role in the DLC"

@obsidian shard

not a direct quote to what hugo said but just my notes

[warm ibex]

Josh stated that those leaks from the other day weren't for DLC, most of it is leftover dev test that's technically been in the game since launch

[frosty roost]

oooh

[warm ibex]

and here's my stream notes too @obsidian shard

Today's new tunables are in preparation for the Ripatorium 2.0 Update, they want to get it right before releasing new tools.

Likely doing a stream preview of Ripatorium 2.0 in two weeks, that will be their next update too.

No stream next week.

Marok will be involved in the DLC.

Leaks were leftover early dev test, not DLC content.

[meager vortex]

nice!!!

[warm ibex]

Hugo just said that the Order of the Six gave Ahzrak temporary control of the hordes of hell specifically because of his plan to take out the Slayer

don't know if that was 100% confirmed previously

[wintry forge]

Not sure if it was ever stated verbatim, but it seems confirmed that the High Council is indeed the order of the six

Welp beat me to it

Nice lol

[warm ibex]

by a few seconds lol

[wintry forge]

So that’s interesting. Definitely implies a lot, especially the whole mission setup. We know there are 6 for sure in the High Council

[harsh egret]

he also just said that the sarcophagus in dark ages is the same one from 2016

[wintry forge]

Very interesting…

[warm ibex]

so we're going after the Order of the Six in the DLC

[frosty roost]

oh that's sick! I was wondering why I saw it when i replayed 2016

[wintry forge]

Pretty much confirmed

[solar spoke]

makes sense, maybe a level for every member

[wintry forge]

I wasn’t sure. There was multiple sarcophrguses in 2016 in the Mars base, so I figured it was common

[harsh egret]

6 bosses?

in 6 levels?

in one dlc? dont think so :d

[wintry forge]

No witch in dlc… interesting. I didn’t think that would be the case

[solar spoke]

It's ambitious lol, I'm just being kinda hopeful because they're not working under covid restrictions anymore lol

[harsh egret]

did he say that? i mustve missed it

[harsh egret]

they dont even have 6 proper bosses in this game

not saying it wouldnt be cool

[wintry forge]

Yes, someone asked about the Witch, he said he thinks she’s dead honestly, and that they haven’t thought that far ahead, but to him, she’s dead right now

[spare panther]

hes said "interesting...." to archvile and more cosmic realm in dlc

and something else i think

[harsh egret]

oh yeah, cosmic realm in dlc confirmed

[green estuary]

honestly bosses have never been the strong point of modern doom

the less bosses they include, the better

[warm ibex]

I don't think they're as bad as everyone says

[harsh egret]

they been cooking more with dark ages at least

[green estuary]

on average they're not too bad
but the combat is just preferable

[wintry forge]

Ahzrak may be wearing Immora armor, but we all assumed that so

I think having 6 bosses might be a lot to assume, what do you guys think? Do you think we’d actually fight/ kill them ALL?

[frosty roost]

I'm hoping so

[harsh egret]

not in the dlc, no

not all

unless they are minibosses or smth

[dark thunder]

remember when we thought davoth wouldnt die in the dlc

[harsh egret]

[warm ibex]

Hugo just agreed that they didn't build on Davoth enough. I can rest now

My soul may find peace

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/lesson-learned-cookie-1883-i-learned-my-lesson-now-i-know-gif-24817250

[wintry forge]

Ahzrak got more development than the Slayer’s true nemesis

[harsh egret]

cutscenes will be more first person and immersive apparently in the dlc

[frosty roost]

interesting

[harsh egret]

2016 vibes

[wintry forge]

I figured it would be as much. Kinda like Wolfenstein Old Blood

[solid nacelle]

Do it and feel it instead of just watching it

[warm ibex]

this pleases me

[wintry forge]

Get to work, Horde!

[warm ibex]

I am satisfied lol

[wintry forge]

Lmao

[harsh egret]

[wintry forge]

We ate good tonight

[dark thunder]

wasn't the point of 3rd person cutscenes to see ur skins and stuff

[warm ibex]

no lol

[dark thunder]

also hope they somehow build more on davoth and be like haha u thought it was that easy to kill him but that would be cheesy

if the cutscenes are first person how are u supposed to gander at your skin

[warm ibex]

I genuinely don't think they care about skins in the slightest man, that's just fun bonus stuff

[wintry forge]

Everybody ask for Photomode lol

[warm ibex]

lol

[dark thunder]

There was a ton for eternal but there's barely any for tda

Need more cool weapon skins

[warm ibex]

exactly, it's not a priority

[harsh egret]

weapon skins we do need for sure

[dark thunder]

i play on an rtx 2060 so the skins dont even matter

all look like doo doo

[wintry forge]

They keep talking about it being a “geo” issue. Like different models for the new Slayer being too different, but there were MANY alternate geo/model skins for Eternal

[dark thunder]

at least the gauntlets can look cool

can u imagine a davoth skin and see the tattooed arms

[spark elm]

Gold skins on the weapons all look cool. I’m not skilled enough for ultra nightmare.

[solid nacelle]

It's because they have to make several damage states for each skin

[wintry forge]

Fair point, forgot about Harbor of Souls

[solid nacelle]

#the-dark-ages message

[solar spoke]

true, the slayer stays pretty uniform throughout Eternal appearance wise

[dark thunder]

PLEASE PLEASE GIVE US A RESURRECTED SLAYER PLEASE JUST ONE SKIN PLEASEEEEE

or undead slayer i mean

[harsh egret]

DLC stuff:

• Marok will be involved in the DLC, which clearly means he will play a bigger role
• We will see more cosmic realm in the DLC
• DLC cutscenes will be more immersive/in first person
• More backtracking throughout the levels, more unlocking of the space
• More mobility options for those who want it (this will be optional. in some instances it will be required but for the most part it will be optional)
• The order of the six is confirmed to be the High Council, also kinda confirming that the DLC will be revolved around them
• The witch wont be in the DLC

Ripatorium 2.0:

• In a couple of weeks they might show a preview of Ripatorium 2.0 on stream (and no stream next week)

Other updates and lore stuff:

• New tuneables have been added today, you can find them on Slayer's Club
• Most of the dev tools leaks related to the DLC were in the game since launch and they aren't actually related to the DLC
• The sarcophagus from Dark Ages is the same one from 2016

These are my notes from today, hopefully nothing important is missing

[uneven dragon]

Is this from today’s stream

[frosty roost]

yes

[harsh egret]

yup

[uneven dragon]

Ok the order of six is neat

[frosty roost]

there won't be a stream next week because hugo has surgery @uneven dragon

[uneven dragon]

Also why did there need to be confirmation the witch wouldn’t be there we watched her get straight up domed

[strong moth]

Thanks!

[dark thunder]

MORE COSMIC REALM LFG

[harsh egret]

unless im wrong, some ppl thought she got sent back to the cosmic realm thinking that her body in this game was just a vessel

[uneven dragon]

ok that’s fair

[dark thunder]

She is now know as The Bitch, a cosmic presence within the cosmic realm

[harsh egret]

he read a question about someone asking if there will be cosmic realm in dlc, and he said "interesting..."
pretty much confirmed

[obsidian shard]

Even tho it says this in the codex 💀

[harsh egret]

@frail bloom @obsidian shard @unkempt dragon i got the notes above

[solid nacelle]

That feeling when knee surgery is tomorrow

[dark thunder]

cosmic realm is too cool to not use it again in the game

[harsh egret]

oh there u are lmao

[harsh egret]

agreed

[frosty roost]

hello hato (again) saw u in twitch chat lmao

[dark thunder]

im kinda scared to see what other abominations are spawned from the other unholy realm

[frosty roost]

cosmic realm is sick

[harsh egret]

yup yup

[harsh egret]

that huge and fat cosmic mancubus concept art will always be ingrained in my head

[dark thunder]

if the old one was the top dog in the cosmic realm

then who is

the new one

[warm ibex]

Also hinted that the Archvile will return in the DLC

[harsh egret]

oh shit really?

[warm ibex]

the first time he said "interesting" was to a DLC archvile comment

[harsh egret]

didnt he say the serfs are the archvile of this game

ah

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-boi-excited-smile-grin-gif-17305845

[warm ibex]

he said Acolyte is kinda like the Archvile of this game but imo it just doesn't really fill the role

[harsh egret]

yeah i know but are they gonna have both then, hm..

[warm ibex]

I don't remember if he specifically said the "archvile" of this game, I just remember him saying that TDA will have something adjacent to a Summoner during a pre-launch interview

and that's the only enemy he could've been referring to

[green estuary]

bruh the archvile has gotta resurrect enemies, not summon them

[harsh egret]

i remember him saying that, but idk

yees

[green estuary]

I'm sure he did but doom 2 just does the archvile type enemy much better

[heady trout]

yay

i did THE ENTIRETY OF Sentinel Barracks without dying and the Vagary killed me

like for fucks sake what even is the strat with the early game Vagary

parry and what gun?

[warm ibex]

probably accelerator

for heating armor asap

or SSG if you have the armor damage upgrade and are good enough to get in close

[heady trout]

thats it? I just need to stand away and WAIT while I parry for the guys stun meter to increase? Thats so boring

[heady trout]

im playing on a new save I dont have those guns

as far as I have now is the impaler

[dark thunder]

fuck whiplash

[heady trout]

yay i love bosses that demand I do one thing repeatedly when it feels like a slog

[warm ibex]

if you're going up against a vagary then you have the accelerator

[heady trout]

wait is that the like, first plasma rife?

[warm ibex]

yeah

[heady trout]

oh okay I thought you meant the second one

but like shooting its armor? Will that actually do anything

I have used the accelerator alot, but in this case the armor just seems to ignore weapon fire with my current arsenal

[warm ibex]

for the vagary champion bossfight specifically you need to get behind and focus fire on her unarmored back section

[heady trout]

how do you get behind them unless they are stunned

cause when they get stunned i go around and shoot

[warm ibex]

you kinda don't

[heady trout]

my problem with this boss is before the stun meter is filled, it just feels really boring

parry, parry, parry,

can I at least shoot my gun

what is this the dark lord

[warm ibex]

parrying in the parry game? whaaaat??

[heady trout]

omg

the problem is that ITS THE ONLY thing im doing

no shooting

[warm ibex]

you can also press the gun button to use your gun

[heady trout]

yes im dodging but in Doom i like to shoot my gun

[heady trout]

and deal zero damage

when the armor is up

[green estuary]

the armor reduces damage, it doesn't negate it

you can still deal significant damage through it

[heady trout]

if you say so

at that level of my arsenal?

[green estuary]

if you run out of accelerator ammo before you can melee him then switch to either impaler/shredder/pulverizer

[heady trout]

id have to get REALLY close for the pulverizer

and yknow the Vagary isnt designed for you to do that

unlike every other super heavy

[warm ibex]

shooting the armor also builds up the stun bar more, you're practically intnetionally extending the fight by not shooting at all

[heady trout]

okay then the tutorial kind of bsing me then

well ill replay the level while trying this and do a no death run

[warm ibex]

also try using the Skull Crusher on the vagary too since it has wide spread

[green estuary]

not really

its range isn't that short

[warm ibex]

oh pulverizer was already mentioned my bad

[warm ibex]

katsu you're the damage numbers guy. is there any statistical advantage to using the pulverizer during normal gameplay? outside of the speed boost

shield is a better fodder clear method (at least imo) and just about everything else seems to do more damage

[heady trout]

didnt you yourself tell me the pulverizer was a close range gun

[green estuary]

yeah it is

[heady trout]

even then regardless of this, the Vagarys ideal combat range is not as close as you have to get with the pulverizer, the game punishes you for getting too close to the Vagary

[green estuary]

because the spread is so wide that usually the only way to hit most of the pellets is to stand very close

[heady trout]

cause screw stand and fight tutorial, even though it applies to EVERY super heavy, not the first one you meet

[green estuary]

but the vagary also happens to have the widest hitbox in the game along with the cyberdemon

so you don't necessarily have to stand that close to get most pellets to connect

[green estuary]

if you can hit all the pellets then its got good dps
problem is the spread is absurdly wide so you're wasting most of it unless you use it for crowd control, which is usually better handled by the shield saw

[warm ibex]

I was researching tips to send you and just watched a guy do the entire thing while mostly using the pulverizer and ocasionally impaler, I think you're good bro

[harsh egret]

Tbh u can make most guns work in like most scenarios

[warm ibex]

true

[warm ibex]

yeah that's about what I thought

[heady trout]

im very pissed that the stand and fight tutorial applies to every suepr heavy except the Vagary

okay there you go, Sentinel Barracks deathless, plenty of close calls though

the Vagary strat was accelerator and pulverizer

mostly accelerator though

[covert blaze]

Yeah, and Komodo.

[topaz oasis]

Hey!

Komodo is such a misunderstood sweetheart

Show him some love 🤗

[warm ibex]

Komodo runs away from me in the middle of combat. he'll get some love when he grows a pair

[topaz oasis]

He's shy, get close to him and show him there's nothing to hesitate about 💔

[meager vortex]

DOOM THE DARK AGES:ORDER OF THE SIX

[austere nacelle]

Is that the DLC name?

lol

[warm ibex]

no lol

[meager vortex]

just my think bruh

[austere nacelle]

DOOM: The Dark Ages: The Old Blood

Or DOOM: The Dark Ages: The New Order

https://tenor.com/view/trollface-gif-8242347154758580084

[covert blaze]

Wait, the DLC is out?!

[meager vortex]

bruh just my think lol

[warm ibex]

I was fighting the komodo leader in Resurrection not too long ago and he got stuck running in a loop around a pillar while I was chasing him. So a solid ten seconds of the fight looked like a looney toons bit lmao, wish I recorded that

[covert blaze]

Ahh, dang. I spent $30 and I'm still waiting on the DLC.

[meager vortex]

bruh

[warm ibex]

and you'll probably be waiting another four+ months dude

[topaz oasis]

lol that's weird

[austere nacelle]

Hello Guys today we have a list of Top Cinco Komodo: Numero 5: Komodo Spin

[topaz oasis]

I've also had that same Komodo getting stuck next to a pillar too, which caused him to stand still and just stare at me for like 20 seconds

The AI on that one sure is wack

[meager vortex]

and he died right?

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/daniel-lizard-head-spin-spinning-gif-8810618095368702271

[meager vortex]

first komodo killed by cut of the head

[topaz oasis]

No, I was doing a CS & Flail only with 50% dtd so I was dealing like no damage to him

He eventually unstuck himself and we continued brawling

[meager vortex]

500% damgage from demons 50% slayer give the demons damage???

hell mode

[frosty roost]

I spent £100 for the game and the dlc

[austere nacelle]

"That's harsh man"-Michelangelo TMNT 2014

[meager vortex]

try this un difficulty

that is true slayer hell mode

[topaz oasis]

He's giving them a chance

[topaz oasis]

I'll do it

Once im finished with my 150% speed playthrough

[heady trout]

okay i beat Holy city without dying once

[heady trout]

awesome level

[meager vortex]

remember 500% damage from demons 50%slayer damage to the demons

[topaz oasis]

I gotcha

Im starting off with a full arsenal tho

[warm ibex]

valid lol

[heady trout]

oh boy seige part 1, my old enemy

the part where i crashed out on my first playthrough, lets hope this time im better

[topaz oasis]

For siege 1 I'd recommend starting by going to the right first so you can get the chainshot earlier

Which can help with killing the vagaries and armored pinkies you'll run into later

[heady trout]

omg i did like 5 arenas flawlessly but what kills me is a suprise hel knight and a imp

[heady trout]

i really dont like the chainshot

its the one with the ball right?

[topaz oasis]

The wrecking ball, yeah

Really good for armored enemies

[hard thistle]

unholy siege, into the void, theomachy, between hex and flame and ancestral beast

[green estuary]

Real

[hard thistle]

love the whole soundtrack but these are the ones i usually listen. also i'm including unused game stems that aren't present in the soundtrack.

[heady trout]

aaaannnd I died to a stupid ass Cyberdemon and shielded demon combo I couldnt kill until I killed the Cyberdemon

and by shielded I mean those you have to break morale to kill

[uneven dragon]

into the void so good 💖

[heady trout]

thats like actually so questionable design wise, especially when it comes to handling parries and shit

''oh you are just going to have to parry this enemies projectiles until you kill all the demons here''

its like just giving a demon invincibility and its weirdly restrictive

like at least let me damage them, even if its less damage

but no, just ''you cant do anything cry about it''

[warm ibex]

I feel like the problems you post here are so often entirely unique to you

and I don't mean that in a bad way, but like damn I rarely have any problems with morale encounters unless it's a cyberdemon leader (due to the range of their ground spikes)

[heady trout]

welp im done for today, died again bc honestly i really think the morale thing was poorly implemented by making the demon outright invincible

[frosty roost]

unholy siege, into the void, and battle on the blackened tide

[heady trout]

ill continue the no death stuff later

okay internet acting up, by INVINCIBLE ofc i know the demon can be taken down once morale is broken, I just wish I could damage it in some way before that

and trying to parry+super shotgun the Cyberdemon is inconsistent

whatever

[scenic lichen]

what did i miss from today's stream

[placid palm]

hello

[frosty roost]

cyberdemon morale encounters have me on edge every single time

[hard thistle]

love the orchestral buildup from blackened tide

[heady trout]

I still like this game alot, one of my favourites of all time, but this shit irks me

[frosty roost]

@scenic lichen

there you go

[scenic lichen]

thanks goat

[frosty roost]

[heady trout]

its the little combinations of contradictory info that appear, like ''stand and fight, but not with the Vagary keep ur distance'' or ''rip and tear, but not this demon that has goofy yellow shields around it''

[frosty roost]

y'all i'm going to bed, it's 4am

goodnight!

[heady trout]

gn

[frosty roost]

[hard thistle]

good night

[heady trout]

''parry like this, with the exception of the aggadon and the komodo bc they take years to attack''

[warm ibex]

I feel like just about every morale leader is intentionally placed completely out of the way so the problem is as minimal as possible for the majority of the encounter. Like both leaders on Siege pt.1 stay in the complete back of the arena and you realistically shouldn't really have to deal with them unless you're staying back there for some reason

[heady trout]

what if im dealing with the Cyberdemon and I get backshotted by the leader

[topaz oasis]

I dunno what the names of the songs are but my favorites are definitely the belly of the beast combat theme and the sentinnel command station combat theme

those slap so hard

[heady trout]

ill probably just mess around with ripatorium like I did last time when I was tired of the main campaign

[supple oracle]

WHAT GOOD PEOPLE

[warm ibex]

I honestly rarely have that problem outside of the ripatorium. The Cyberdemon and leader Manc are on the complete opposite sides of the arena in Siege pt.1, I feel like you genuinely shouldn't be getting slammed from behind unless you're for some reason retreating back to the manc constantly or dragging the cyberdemon over to the manc

[topaz oasis]

now this is actually a valid point

the thing with the leaders I believe is that as long as you dont get too close while killing their adds, they will just stay iddle and wont really try to attack you

[warm ibex]

yeah exactly, so it's really not a problem since every leader is intentionally placed far away from the arena's actual combat

[topaz oasis]

if the pinky rider leader spots you at any point while the tyrant is still alive, you're in for a rough time because the pinky is constantly gonna try to snipe you while you try to deal with the tyrant

[topaz oasis]

yeah, best strat is to try to stay away from the leader until all the adds are down

[warm ibex]

but (imo) it's fairly easy to counteract if you just fight the cyberdemon while facing the direction of the pinky as well, since you can see his green attack in the distance and your parries have a high chance of lining up even if you don't

[topaz oasis]

well, yeah, that too

I believe the tyrant will even block the rider's shots with his massive body if you place yourself properly lol

gotta be comfortable with being against a wall with a tyrant around

which honestly, isnt too hard

[heady trout]

the WHAT

Tyrant

Eternalrot

[topaz oasis]

tyrant, cyberdemon, same shit

[warm ibex]

something I also want to point out is that is seems like you're having a lot of trouble with mechanic variance. The Vagary is a good example of this - all super heavies are "stand and fight", the vagary simply requires you to stand and fight from a distance. The Aggadon and Komodo have the same sort of melee pattern mechanic as the rest of the enemy roster, but they just require more specific timing and a better understanding of attack patterns compared to the enemies that simply attack instantly (which is to be expected from the two toughest enemies in the game)

[heady trout]

okay heres the thing though, the Vagary feels the most different

my ssg+parry strat works for every Super Heavy except Vagary

[topaz oasis]

chainshot is your best friend against a vagary

[heady trout]

NO I REFUSE TO USE THAT GAAAHHH

[meager vortex]

vagary is style is different yeah

[warm ibex]

yeah exactly, because it's stand and fight from a distance

[heady trout]

The tutorial lied to meeee....

[warm ibex]

did it? (that's a real question and not sarcasm)

[heady trout]

it says stand and fight and tells you to be close to enemies, I mean real close

with Super Heavies

[austere nacelle]

You lied to me Connor, you lied to me.

https://tenor.com/view/connor-you-lied-to-me-connor-you-lied-to-me-detroit-become-human-gif-4815952486878732874

[topaz oasis]

if you are into using the fail flail, you can parry 2 of his projectiles and go in for a flail combo, then vagary will kiss his whole armor goodbye

[meager vortex]

because that tutorial started no ssg get that time bro

chapter4 right?

ssg get chapter5

[warm ibex]

Are you talking about the tutorial that pops up when you fight the Vagary Champion for the first time?

[heady trout]

no no the one that pops up if you die to a Super Heavy or just randomly

[warm ibex]

ah, gotcha

I don't really know what to say there. It's a general tutorial that doesn't have to be followed exactly, just like a lot of Eternal's

[green estuary]

Yeah there’s this little thing called nuance that they expect you to pick up on

[warm ibex]

I wanted to say that but didn't know how to put it kindly lol

[topaz oasis]

which tutorial are you guys talking about?

i only remember the eternal tutorial where they tell you that if you see a Tyrant, you should try to shoot it until it dies

now that's a useful tutorial

[meager vortex]

i never saw that lol

[desert path]

Wuh

[topaz oasis]

@meager vortex https://imgur.com/a/DtITMeH

[meager vortex]

lol damn

tyrant:you what?!

https://tenor.com/view/what-why-huh-steve-harvey-confused-gif-2486632017667011481

crucible: am i joke to you?

[shut whale]

We still don't know when DLC trailer will come out

[meager vortex]

yep

[dark thunder]

game awarsd

[uncut needle]

can u get the gold skin if u beat ultra nightmare with easy peezy sliders?

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-doakes-curious-suspicious-questioning-gif-14390669560130901665

[uncut needle]

listen dude i dont have the ability to stay locked in for 12-14 hours for that run lol

[random sand]

I mean, yeah. You can

[meager vortex]

yes

if ripatorium2.0 there will be ahzrack witch kreed maker boss battle can play?

or exucutioner demons from campaign

or makyr drone

[naive wigeon]

you dont need to finish it in one sitting dawg

even if u leave mid level the game just has u restart that level given that u didnt die

[unkempt dragon]

Thank you for this! I was trapped at work until just now so I appreciate it 🙂

[tropic adder]

(happy noises)

[meager vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/gamer-icon-of-sin-death-doom-eternal-doom-eternal-icon-of-dead-icon-of-dead-icon-of-sin-gif-16820152

Marok's fate

[random sand]

"Cutscenes will be more in first person". I am glad for that but hoping the cinematic ones shine too. I really liked those for tda. Made it feel like a bigger impactful game that wasn't just "kill demons with guns"

[harsh egret]

Yeah same

[solar cairn]

2.0 mode will apparently be shown in mid-November and release in December

Well, at least that’s what I think

[meager vortex]

hugo said stream 2weeks ripatorium2.0

Today's new tunables are in preparation for the Ripatorium 2.0 Update, they want to get it right before releasing new tools.

Likely doing a stream preview of Ripatorium 2.0 in two weeks, that will be their next update too.

[unkempt dragon]

Where are you even getting this information from? Speculating is fine but throwing out dates and speaking as if you're one of the devs is weird. I don't know what's with this chat and the parasocial constant speculating lol. Just be patient and let things happen as they will in their actual time frame.

[meager vortex]

@warm ibex

he said

[brisk ingot]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-rising-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-senator-armstrong-revengeance-i-made-it-the-fuck-up-gif-25029602

[unkempt dragon]

[frosty roost]

LMFAOOO

[harsh egret]

Well tbf he is right about them wanting to do a preview of Ripatorium 2.0 in 2 weeks and they did say it would be the next update, but nothing about any release date

[unkempt dragon]

Side note, since many in this channel post in the music channel as well: SoundCloud links have been whitelisted! So you can post those links there now.

[unkempt dragon]

Correct. It's mainly just the release date rumor spreading that makes me go🤔😑

[midnight cedar]

DLC is coming out tomorrow (Hugo is my dad trust)

[cerulean pagoda]

Hoping you can spawn in bosses in the ripatorium

And the old one

I want to ssg cancel cthulhu out of existence on the ground

[alpine pilot]

Where doom

[uneven dragon]

DLC yesterday

[solar cairn]

It would be nice to bring some mechanics from the mod for Eternal to the ripatorium

The mod that Hugo played on this stream

Give the opportunity to change the arena after a few waves, leave lives in the arena, add something else

[harsh egret]

im sure its gonna be a lot of new features that the community has been asking for

its gonna be good

[solar cairn]

And what else did they ask for besides ready-made presets?

[harsh egret]

idk kinda busy atm but there has been lots of stuff we been talking about here after ripatorium came out im sure u can go find it idk

[celest sun]

You know, this not be liked, but I kind of miss not being able to earn points to unlock things during a seasonal content drop

I just like numbers and adding more and more of them when I complete a misson lol

[harsh egret]

the fortnite effect

[celest sun]

Well I want it to be like Doom Eternal. I dont like Fortnite

[harsh egret]

yh well fortnite started this sort of battlepass stuff

or at least it exploded after fortnite

[celest sun]

Can we get a leaderbored at least? I just want more numbers

[harsh egret]

could be implemented on ripatorium presets

[solid nacelle]

I could see them maybe doing like a "who has the fastest time to complete" type of thing for presets

[harsh egret]

if people start developing cheats for these things im gonna lose my mind

but yeah it could be cool to have leaderboards even for shareable presets by the community and stuff

[celest sun]

Actually, where are the cheats?? Hey, Devs, can you put cheats into the game please?

[green estuary]

no

[harsh egret]

lmao

[celest sun]

I want to IDKFA through Seige

[neon perch]

If theres bonding scenes between Valen and Marok I will cry like a baby bitch.

[neon perch]

Oh yeah that Vagary encounter sucks it's so uninteresting. You have no tools to work with so it's always a drag.

[neon perch]

I wish I could ask Hugo what the reasoning was behind Doomguy breaking his arm instead of the annoying ass shoulder cannon.

[celest sun]

Hugo portrait DLC when?

[neon perch]

FUCK the Komodo shoulder cannon.

[solar cairn]

I just started the game and the doomguy at a speed of 150 began to move slower, the speed of movement was also fixed in the patches?

[neon perch]

Send it to the shadow realm.

[solar cairn]

I don’t like it at all

[green estuary]

Yeah the ground slam is the least of my worries
Let me break his bullshit fireball spam turret

[neon perch]

You will have your shield break for no fucking reason and you will like it.

[solar cairn]

Guys?

[green estuary]

I don’t play at increased speed, so I couldn’t tell you

[solar cairn]

As if he criticized the bug personally for me, I’ll be waiting for a response from support

[neon perch]

I don't think that should happen no.

It's the whole game moving at 150% speed which affects player movement. It wouldn't make much sense for everything to be at, say, 50% normal speed and everything else be slower BUT the player.

[solar cairn]

I was just testing and the speed of the game was slow, definitely

The hero goes to 150 as if 100 is set, I hope they will fix it with a patch

Damn, I haven’t played for a month, I was thinking of going through the campaign again, and here it is..

Hugo, help

[celest sun]

I want 300 percent speed

Not fast enough

Actually, going back, Doom Eternal is noticeably too slow for me now

[ebon lynx]

you can/could do that with the slo-mo break mod

It's been a while since I've used it but I remember messing around with 500% speed just for shits n giggles and it is really funny to witness

[topaz oasis]

I told the 6 possessed barons in belly of the beast to square up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsDFnGlT2y8

[slim matrix]

i really hope the game on steam deck get 60 fps 😭

[frail bloom]

See I was right it would be more like 2016

[solar spoke]

tested, the most I can get is a rough 40-45 on deck with all the settings on handheld with FSR on ultra performance. Still pretty smooth though

[frail bloom]

Uh say what

[solid nacelle]

I hope they bring back both the archvile and pain elemental

[frail bloom]

All we know abt DLC so far:

GAMEPLAY:
• Will expand mechanics from the base game in both combat and exploration
-Will be meaningful changes and not tacked on
-"from 2016 to Eternal"(to some extent)
-will increase mobility options
-new melee weapon(axe or Hadberg)?
EXPLORATION:
• Exploration has good backtracking and is especially required in this dlc(to progress meaningfully)
-There will be a hub(most likely the Kreeds ship)
• The puzzles are really fun

• a tool(mechanic) given will lead to some interesting traversal puzzles, not necessarily skill based like Eternal(but seems to be a huge factor either way based on its emphasis, and that will influence the puzzles and movement options in this dlc)
  -lots of secrets and "optional" content that unlocks over time, not all at once when the campaign is finished
  -some Metroidvania-esque elements
  ENEMIES:
  • There will be new ai that shake things up
  -Hugo replied "interesting" to a comment hoping for an Archvile in dlc(hopefully flame boi returns)
  STORY:
  • We will most likely be hunting the high council in dlc
  -dlc will expand the story in ways that people want
  • "Will there be cutscenes in dlc", Hugo's response, " It'll be different, but there will still be a story"
  -these cutscenss are infact more in line with 2016/more immersive and in first person
  -Marok is involved in the dlc(implies a larger role)
  -the witch won't be in the dlc
  -we will see more cosmic realm in the dlc
  VISUAL INFO
  • We have a dlc concept art

[frail bloom]

@warm ibex did I get the archvile info right?

Are you absolutely sure

[frail bloom]

Nah Marok gonna mew and employ the Marok Method and aura farm all over the bad demons

[frail bloom]

No he said there was a demon that stood in for the archvile specifically, and obv that would be the acolyte. But the acolyte borrows traits from the summoner more than the archvile, doesn't really borrow anything really. Either way I hope it's true and I hope it's the classic version that resurrects enemies

[frail bloom]

Boi we boutta act man max

https://tenor.com/view/the-act-man-brrr-gif-24208188

Nah in all seriousness tho I missed all the cool info

Like he gave waaaaaay more than necessary like look how big my dlc info paragraph is

[neon perch]

Waiting for them to address the inconsistent speed on the green Cacodemon projectile.

[topaz oasis]

oh that's definitely something they need to address

that is so stupid

[solar cairn]

Is the video recorded after patch 2.2?

[topaz oasis]

sometimes there a big wind up before you see the green flash indicating the moment you have to parry

and sometimes they just forget about the wind up and shoot at you with no telegraphed way to react

[topaz oasis]

I recorded it yesterday

[warm ibex]

sure about what?

[frail bloom]

The archvile thing

Did Hugo actually respond to that comment with "interesting"

[warm ibex]

what's there to be unsure about?

https://youtu.be/0XjYueIMKYo?t=10438

Here's the exact timestamp, give it a listen

[frail bloom]

Oh my god

Is he playing with us

I'm gonna refrain a bit

But there's a good chance!

[unkempt dragon]

Samir needs to chill lol

you sound like Dale from King of the Hill but Doom version instead of government

[mystic barn]

I don’t know if any of you guys have caught on, but with the recent (-ish; my computer’s been dead for a few months and I only got it back up and running last night so I’m behind) Ripatorium update, more music was included. Just the missing unmixed heavy stems from the Blood Red suite so nothing to write home about

[odd grove]

Blood Red is such fire tho

[solar cairn]

#videos message
Guys, how do I fix the game speed bug?
At 150 speed, it's like 100, and at 100, it's almost a slideshow. The game's support hasn't provided any clear answers yet.

Its unplayable lol

I find my bug in steam comments for update 2.2

F*ck(

[solid beacon]

Stalker imp from classic doom
Powler from doom 3

I was part club.

[harsh egret]

?

[fading osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-what-huh-gif-14026649281713077235

[mystic barn]

I think they're trying to write a haiku, but they're doing it wrong

[harsh egret]

lmao

[cerulean pagoda]

hi

[frail bloom]

Aw here comes John moderator squashing my excitement(kidding I can chill a bit lmao)

[unkempt dragon]

lol

I do appreciate the excitement though. Better than a dead chat with nobody into the game

[frail bloom]

Who's Dale btw is 'King of the Hill' a movie

[unkempt dragon]

You should watch some clips on YouTube he's funny af

It's an older show, like The Simpsons era

[frail bloom]

Ye I'll do that before playing some max slider stuff today

I need the joy

[unkempt dragon]

I'm in my conspiracy theory mode lately and keep thinking about Dale🤔

He's just one of those guys who thinks the government is out to get him and says funny shit

[frail bloom]

Oh I've seen this show before

Not seen but like seen clips

[unkempt dragon]

yeah, Bobby and Hank

[frail bloom]

Yeah I'll try some out

[cerulean pagoda]

max sliders is kicking my ass rn

[unkempt dragon]

And I could play some TDA. I'm just gonna admit that I've been avoiding it lately bc I half suck at it and don't have the energy to really get better currently

[frail bloom]

I think it's better to not think of it as an obligation

You get to when you get to and only you decide

Take my cousin for example

[unkempt dragon]

Somehow it's been easier for me to improve upon 2016 greatly than get back to TDA. I built a whole new computer for it so I should just do it. I think I should play on a low difficulty just to have fun first and get better later

[frail bloom]

Suuupper busy guy, loves Doom, but can't get around to playing dark ages and learning the combat loop

So he uninstalled

Bummer but he's a busy dude

And I know he'd like to play it

[solid beacon]

Slayers club.

[frail bloom]

Loves the ost, the aesthetic

Really likes the cutscenes

He just can't get the gameplay down

[unkempt dragon]

That's exactly how I feel. Like after work it's easier to space out and play Eternal or 2016 on high difficulties than to learn new mechanics in TDA. But I really want to because I looked forward to it for so long.

[unkempt dragon]

same

Example, I keep right clicking out of habit like, right click mod then left click shoot. And in TDA all that does is shield dash me into enemies and I die lmao

It's hard habits to break

[frail bloom]

Ye maybe when you get the chance you can post some vids here of your gameplay(assuming you haven't uninstalled the game)

It's a pretty beefy game

[solid beacon]

Mancubus doing jack-ass baron holding the camra

[unkempt dragon]

I did pretty well when I first started, better than I thought I would. Then I got discouraged and overwhelmed by having to keep up the new mechanics memorization I think.

[unkempt dragon]

oh god I would pass away from embarrassment

[frail bloom]

You know aswell as I do that no one here tolerates any form of belittlement to someone who genuinely is trying to improve at something

Plus that guy can get banned

Ngl

[unkempt dragon]

By me

oo

lol*

[frail bloom]

Yup you get it

I encourage it

[unkempt dragon]

thanks dude

I'm old and honestly learning newer games is genuinely more difficult

[frail bloom]

Ye and it's not the covid era either

Can't just sit around for 10 hrs trying to learn eternal anymore

Imagine if eternal dropped today

[unkempt dragon]

like growing up playing super Mario and Pac-Man and allat. Even with Eternal and 2016, it was tough at first for me to get used to

[unkempt dragon]

I wonder about that often and how different everything would be

like SO much would be different

[frail bloom]

Exactly it just depends on your circumstances

So don't blame yourself

It happens when it happens

[unkempt dragon]

I'm working 19 days in a row currently and burnt out af, and will be doing 6 days a week for the next couple of months. Saving up $ for the holidays. I think that's why I'm waiting to lock into TDA when I have more brainspace

[frail bloom]

Ye holy, prioritize your needs ofc

You're waaaaay tooo busy to worry abt a video game

But yeah I hope things go your way well

[unkempt dragon]

Fr. Side note all of us moderators get busy af as a whole, and the @ moderator pings and modmail dm's do help for visibility. When we're doing other things then we don't have to constantly keep up in the channels or search if something has happened.

[unkempt dragon]

Thank you, fr

[solid beacon]

That i was trying to tell.

[unkempt dragon]

I feel like we have really good people in the server lately and everyone has been doing their part. It's a good community and we're all here because we love Doom.

[warm hamlet]

Fuckin' DOOM

[heady trout]

https://tenor.com/view/doomguy-doom-doom-slayer-doom-the-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages-gif-14901082521966246439

[cerulean pagoda]

its surprising to see the doom community be this chill(im not talking about the specific doom eternal community that is at most times hell im talking about the general doom community)

i havent seen a community this nice ever

[solar spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/just-a-chill-guy-chillguy-chill-guy-cool-beautiful-gif-10148344293335689977

It's just a chill community

[vagrant path]

Just make sure to steer clear of zdoom community or other sourceport communities xd

I shan't indulge but there is NASTY people there

[warm hamlet]

What eternal community ur talking about?

[cerulean pagoda]

the ones that say skill issue everytime you disagree with them

[warm hamlet]

oh lol

I mean it's the hardest Doom game IMO

[cerulean pagoda]

it is for me too

[heady trout]

GOD FUCKING

SEIGE PART 1 LIKE 20 MINUTES IN AND I DIE

this level is torture to do without dying bc of how long it takes lmfao

i legitimately need to start ignoring the gold search bc it adds so much runtime to this stage

also the chainshot, i misjuged you

but yeah once im in the mood to do another run without dying ill definetly ignore 50% of the gold pickups

[frail bloom]

Time for a max slider run

Cuz my efforts in reaper have failed rn

So time to rip and tear

Oh no...

The komodo is so jank

Rip.

[frail bloom]

Finally

[strong moth]

Komodos are a good use of my BFC charges lol

I don’t even hesitate

[frail bloom]

Well I don't have a bfc

Yet

[cerulean pagoda]

komodos are so annoying

they just have so much health it turns into a mashfest

[frail bloom]

Their turrets are poorly designed

[cerulean pagoda]

just spam ssg cancels and hopefully the shield doesnt break

[harsh egret]

I like the komodo apart from when he starts jittering and glitching around on geo sometimes in some arenas lol

[frail bloom]

He's much better on slower speeds

150% is too jank

Another reason why I don't understand ppl who like 150%

[unkempt dragon]

150 😭

[hard thistle]

unless if someone starts comparing games and/or wants to start an argument, yeah a community center around a gory game about brutally executing demons is quite chill and respectable

[unkempt dragon]

Not sure how much of this is sarcasm. But yes. lol

[delicate grotto]

Definitely. Conditions change too fast and his AI gets messy.

Kind of like what happened with Possessed/ Buffed Marauders in Eternal.

[hard thistle]

none of it but i should've reconsider my word choices

[unkempt dragon]

All good. It's just text so hard to tell😂

Metal community is always respectful too at concerts. Way more than any other. But that's a topic for another day in general when I have energy.

[frail bloom]

Ye exactly way too fast for a person to react to and the ai pathing just breaks

[cerulean pagoda]

i havent gotten to the waking up cthulhu level(i dont remember its name) im stil stuck on the sentinel command station

[odd grove]

That level is a headache 😂