the-dark-ages

[topaz oasis]

and obviously the idea is to play on 50% damage with everything unlocked

doing fresh new game with double HP enemies sounds like yeah... some doo doo

I remember I took a frontal hit from a baron on 500% damage while being at 200 HP 150 armor and I was left at 20 HP

[green estuary]

“Intelligent resource management”

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-use-your-brain-use-the-brain-think-brain-gif-7914082

[frail bloom]

Good luck fighting a cyberdemon and an arachnotron on max sliders

And the arachnotron is a maintain

[green estuary]

Bruh Komodos can smd
Mfs just run my ass over every time

[topaz oasis]

ah yes, that awkward moment when a komodo starts sprinting at you but he's literally breathing on top of your slayer

[gusty seal]

it is all about that fun zone, check this out! 😄 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYZH9iYfS18

[frail bloom]

What abt forsaken plains and the cyberdemon leader encounter what do you think abt that

[gusty seal]

We shall see ;]

[frail bloom]

What do you mean it was on level 9

This is resurrection no?

[gusty seal]

I have to go back and check it out loool

[frail bloom]

Hmm

[gusty seal]

hmm

[frail bloom]

Alr

Well imma continue my run now

[frail bloom]

Did it.

That took a whiiiiile

[frail bloom]

Boom forsaken plains done

Hellbreaker

[topaz oasis]

heckbreaker

[solar pecan]

Is anyone’s resurrection bugged?

[gusty seal]

uploading that cyberdemon leader encounter from forsaken plains using the same settings as before. it was challenging though fun 😄

[frail bloom]

Now did you do it with your full arsenal

[gusty seal]

flail fissure no bfc

[frail bloom]

Like were you upgraded

Did you use your end game upgrades

[gusty seal]

for those particular mele weapons, yes.

and yea

[frail bloom]

Damn

[gusty seal]

took less than two min

why wussup

[frail bloom]

See I started my max slider save from the start

So I had to upgrade all my weapons along the way

[gusty seal]

nice good for you thats tough

[frail bloom]

Ye did you use impaler

I found impaler headshots to work for me

[gusty seal]

ss flail

and yea they do

[frail bloom]

And for armored mancs I use the chainshot

Get rid of their armor quickly without being too close

[gusty seal]

chain shot is so much fun and idk why lol

[frail bloom]

I have never used it for a long while until this playthough

I need the armor breaking capabilities

[gusty seal]

it provides distance which is nice for staying safe and still breaking armor

[frail bloom]

Now on a normal playthrough

Nah

But max sliders makes you use as much weapons as you can

As they work for very specific scenarios

[gusty seal]

ive said that before, its not just ones build, there are specific scenarios where one weapon is best and another not so much. ss looses power exponentially at range. pulverizer absolutely destroys a pinky, rockets after a parry smash barons, chainshot combos break down armored hell knights in their tracks

[green estuary]

B A L L S

[dusky yew]

I did it. I finally started the campaign.

Got through about five chapters in under two hours(I was slightly speed running)

I stopped at the end of the chapter where you’re going to get your dragon and I’m hyped for the next chapter

[green estuary]

why would you speedrun the game on your first playthrough 😭

[dusky yew]

I don’t know, shits and giggles?

[frail bloom]

Well don't complain later if you feel like you're missing out on stuff, just saying

Exploration rewards progression

[dusky yew]

I’m not gonna

[frail bloom]

Ok good luck then

[dusky yew]

After I complete the campaign, I’m gonna go through it again and collect everything from each chapter

I think if I 100% each chapter that’s at 100% game completion?

[solar cairn]

No

There are still weapon tasks, it seems

[gusty seal]

Its just the cyber demon leader. at first I couldnt figure out why he was doing more damage than other times with his chain gun. then i realized it was a rotation between the two enemies, one respawning arachnatron guard was hitting me and i think it was that. but it took two minutes. I had to move in and out to recollect my resources but it took less than two min over all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3tWPDX7ZW0

[frail bloom]

Wait the manc doesn't respawn???

That would've been awesome to know

[gusty seal]

i don't think so haha

[frail bloom]

He was sooo annoying

With his areas of denial

[unkempt arrow]

[gusty seal]

i shoulda showed his death on that, I used the saw to cut down the middle glory kill to finish him.

[remote canopy]

I'm kinda late but I'm pretty sure you can use Impaler to delimb him causing him to work like a melee demon

[meager vortex]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Y_zsFmI9iWs?feature=share

[alpine pilot]

Where doom

[glad kayak]

does somebody have some good settings for the ripatorium

[remote canopy]

A lot of cosmic barons,trust me,it's fun

Also Accelerator is way too overpowered,melts the cyberdemon leader in like 15s

[green estuary]

It’s not really that OP
Its whole point is single target DPS, so of course it does that well

[cursive grotto]

Since the game was made with guns as a complementary mechanic to the rest of your arsenal, all of them needed to be good, which they are

You can literally use any gun and have little to no problem in this game for the most part

Pandemonium and UN will definitely make you feel the value of different guns though

I was changing alot in my UN run

The only gun I didn't ever use was the grenade launcher

I just don't see a point in using it

Crowd control? Pulverizer and rocket launcher with the blood sacrifice upgrade does that better

And then it's just completely useless against melee demons because of the self damage splash

A huge flaw compared to the rocket launcher that has the cannibalism upgrade

[green estuary]

You realize cannibalism is the first upgrade for the rocket launcher, right
Meaning no matter whether you get the cooked or the blood sacrifice upgrade you still have cannibalism

[cursive grotto]

Yeah?

[green estuary]

Are you talking about the grenade launcher?

Idk your message wasn’t 100% clear

[cursive grotto]

I'm just saying why use the grenade launcher for melee demons when the rocket launcher that it shares ammo with has an upgrade that heals you for doing self damage

[green estuary]

Ah

[cursive grotto]

And then it just doesn't do cc that well either like I said

I found the pulverizer to be a way better man for the job

[half marlin]

grenade launcher is useful when u have like 3 heavies next to each other

can't really use pulverizer in that situation

[cursive grotto]

When will you ever see 3 heavies next to each other though

I don't remember seeing more than 2 heavies close enough to each other for the grenade launcher in my playthroughs

[half marlin]

randomizer

[green estuary]

Shredder with ricochet

Just objectively better

Or even pincushion

[cursive grotto]

I was about to say that too lol

The grenade launcher just gets outclassed even in it's specialty of crowd control

Why use it when there's the pulverizer, blood sacrifice rocket launcher and shredder with either upgrade path

[silver pawn]

Can you parry two demons at once?

[topaz oasis]

I parried 2 Komodos and a tyrant for 10 attacks straight the other day

[remote canopy]

You never had to parry 3 consecutive empowered cosmic barrons in a row

At 32 hp btw

[topaz oasis]

Hey, I did that too!

Was fun

[remote canopy]

Never realised that the leader was actually there.With the amount of hidden leaders in belly of the beast i thought that the leader was hidden and I had to fight 3 consecutive empowered barons

Tbh this made me realise how fun cosmic barons really are

I just go into ripatorium and put like 3-5 cosmic barons at a time

[topaz oasis]

That's good, you got to do it the fun way

I havent tried ripatorium myself yet

[remote canopy]

I think the best strat for the belly of the beast secret encounter is
Get a precharged accelerator and a precharged cooked rocket.Use the cooked rocket and a dreadmace to instantly kill the leader cyberdemon and use the accelerator.Try to get a cooked rocket again and wait for the leader mancubus to do a projectile parry.2 Cooked and a shield saw will kill him.Now just parry like a god for the 3 barons

[coral vine]

what’s a cooked rocket?

[half marlin]

u should use shield tho

for that

[green estuary]

The grenade launcher’s best use case is identical to ricochet in execution, where the shield is embedded in the demon and direct hits spawn cluster grenades

Sure, you can use the wraithstone upgrade but pincushion is still better in that case, especially with its own wraithstone upgrade

[green estuary]

Just a rocket that’s been empowered by parrying a projectile

The upgrade that lets you do this is called “cooked”

[coral vine]

Got ya

[frail bloom]

Mobility

https://tenor.com/view/liyahsnature-gif-26412031

Scooter in dlc???

[heady trout]

mancubus

[frail bloom]

So it seems

[meager vortex]

dang

[meager vortex]

i think gold unicorn

tda concept art there are golden unicorn

[grizzled thicket]

Bro is 2 steps behind

[meager vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/unicorns-gif-23160546

[warm ibex]

Referring to this flag? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892238793174818848/1426647115785830410/image.png?ex=68ebfc2a&is=68eaaaaa&hm=ea1f48674a092bbc3a5f5f96c1b1cc88b6857e11e60a42e0f35c9b7f422cc66a

[obsidian shard]

Holy poly unicorny

[frail bloom]

Doom the Boom ages

[frail bloom]

Doom the Zoom ages

[radiant spade]

Boom the Doom Zoom ages.

Lol.

[wheat sigil]

air control would actually be kinda cool

the bhops would be so juicy

[frail bloom]

Hey I mentioned that

No one liked the idea

Plus it's still too hard to bhop bc you can't jump forever

There's a limit on how much you can jump

[wheat sigil]

bozos^

[frail bloom]

Ye bozos

[wheat sigil]

huh?

[frail bloom]

If you keep spamming jump you can't keep your momentum

There's a limit they place on your jumping

If you stop jumping it resets

[wheat sigil]

only similar hindrance i know of arises from sprint jumps, but you can circumvent that simply by letting go of forward before bhopping (the later you do it while still before you land, the better)

[wheat sigil]

what would this limit be?

[frail bloom]

Ye sprint jumping

It's almost impossible

And I have auto sprint on

[wheat sigil]

huh, is sprint jumping almost impossible or wha

[frail bloom]

Yes

It's just lame to do

Slows you down, it's better to jump over projectiles every once and a while

But it's a bad idea to keep jumping while sprinting

[wheat sigil]

yeah but that slowdown can be circumvented if you just stop holding forward before bhopping again

[frail bloom]

I play on console

[wheat sigil]

unless we're talking about different things

[frail bloom]

So I have to hold the left stick

Which is aids

So I have to auto sprint

[frail bloom]

Ok so I'm playing eternal again

It feels waaay too slow

My perception of time is screwed

A hell knight slam feels like slo mo

What is happening

[grizzled thicket]

Wait tda is faster?

That happens to me when I stop using overdrive in every level

[wheat sigil]

no not really

[grizzled thicket]

Oh

Well uuhh

[frail bloom]

No but I've been playing max sliders for a while now

So everything is reaaallly fast

[grizzled thicket]

Aaah

[heady trout]

Okay I played the forest level after Seige, didn't die once, I think I'm starting to understand what I'm supposed to do

Like, I can charge forward at enemies but unlike Eternal the mid range and being more stationary is an option, Eternal really taught me that was a bad thing

It's not me staying back like a COWARD it's me going "go on, come get me"

In Eternal and 2016 the option was to be the pusher, now you can be sigma and let them come at you

https://tenor.com/view/come-to-me-the-rock-come-at-me-wwe-wrestling-gif-5275337

I totally push forward when necessary, like with Arachnotrons or Cyberdemons or Revenants

[frail bloom]

Whatever works vro

[solid beacon]

I have been animal crossing game once back in aug 6 2006 after tekken 3 game i have played.

[heady trout]

Also I'm really fw the story, it actually has weight unlike Eternal

[heady trout]

OKAY THE aggadon hunters attacks are bs

have to adjust to its bizzare parry windows

its like actually baiting you to do it earlier than you should its stupid

[green estuary]

elden ring ahh moveset

[crisp frigate]

I did pretty well and I set Ultra Violent as my very first playthrough

And then halfway through they buffed Ultra Violent and still I pushed forward

[heady trout]

okay

im playing the first hell level and in the first arena with a leader I got killed by whatever the fuck

i love it when I die to something I didnt even know exsisted

oh my godness this arena is bs

theres so many heavy demons

[frosty roost]

are you playing ripatorium by chance?

[heady trout]

im dissapointed that the way to beat these big ass arenas is to half stay back and wait for them to come and half to actually push

i just beat the arena, but the first half I just kind of stuck near a wall and moved minimally to dodge projectiles and let them come

im playing the first hell level

[green estuary]

the simple answer is that playing passively is a possible way to beat a lot of TDA combat encounters, just like camping in a corner (or the air) and sniping wins you a lot of fights in 2016 and eternal
but it's not the way to beat encounters
if it's the only way you've found to beat said encounters, then that just means you're still struggling with the combat loop

[heady trout]

well

some encounters yes, some encounters no

[green estuary]

even on 300% damage, I can still play absurdly aggressive and not die even in the hardest levels
it just comes down to awareness

[heady trout]

the problem is the solution to overwhelming is to play passively

[green estuary]

well you can always cheese, yeah

[heady trout]

and at least Eternals air mobility thing took a little more thought

and looked cooler, here i feel a bit weird

[green estuary]

honestly I'm surprised the demons are even coming to you in tda
usually they tend to prefer to just snipe at you unless you advance first

[heady trout]

like this cheesing is way easier than Eternals cheesing

when the combat encounters allow me to be more agressive i love it, but when its five quintillion heavies shooting at me why does the game give me the option to play passively instead of learning to be more agressive?

[green estuary]

I think you're vastly overstating how much stuff is thrown at you in TDA

it's not the game that's punishing you for being aggressive

[frail bloom]

Ye you just gotta map out your route

Figure out which enemies to take down first

[green estuary]

honestly you can get away with not doing that either

[frail bloom]

What weapon feels the best for your situation

I don't really like camping bc the projectiles can track you

And if you hsve any mortar mancubi or vagary's it's gonna be a problem

Plus you need to close the gap to get resources

I only camp in a few arenas and that's only on max sliders

Bc of the heightened damage and enemy durability

[green estuary]

this is when I wish this server had VCs
cuz I hate to see somebody not enjoying the game when it's got so much going for it

[frail bloom]

Ye or they could record some vids

[gloomy nova]

Hey is there by any chance a blue skin for the slayer

[heady trout]

Im enjoying it way more than I was before

But these individual moments hurt my enjoyment, but knowing games like these it's likely I'll get better the more I suffer

But the whole aggressive problem boils down to
-move to kill one or two heavies
-ohshittheresmillionsaroundme
-dies
-revives
-Starts further away/camps momentarily to take down more masses before actually being aggressive

I'm never 100% campy, I usually become aggressive at worst halfway through the fight

[unkempt dragon]

me at work

[heady trout]

Awesome!

Let it be known I'm starting to get Dark Ages, it's just big ass arenas that still evade me

[frail bloom]

When you get it, it's fun as hell

I just don't know how to describe it

[solar cairn]

Patch coming?

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/idk-catreact-gif-4645259915060879712

[harsh egret]

No

Never

[dark thunder]

do u think most people play with or without slow mo

[frail bloom]

Idk really

I'd say without

Hard to go back

[solar cairn]

As soon as Hugo finishes the campaign, a new patch will be released

[frail bloom]

Same guy who said a master level would release in june or smt

You're like 0-3

3 missed predictions

[solar cairn]

[frail bloom]

Ye I bet you feel real good

[green estuary]

kaibz randomizer is peak

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/jon-arbuckle-disgust-jon-arbuckle-disgusting-gif-22501611

Scum

[green estuary]

just got a respawning revenant in the vagary boss fight lol

[frail bloom]

I'm joshing

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/ha-smirk-smile-gif-14555623

me knowing damn well you're on console

[frail bloom]

I was talking to the dude with a weird name in a language I don't know

Also you damn well know that I'm pretty decent

I'd prob do pretty good

Yeah no response you know I'm goated

💪 💪 💪 😤

[frail bloom]

Hato shouldn't you be in bed or smt

Or did you just wake up

[solar cairn]

Does it make the game more difficult?

[green estuary]

I'm sure you would
but it's only available for pc so

[green estuary]

oh yeah

[solar cairn]

After death, will the same demons spawn or randomly again?

[green estuary]

every death/reload checkpoint randomizes the demons again

[frail bloom]

[solar cairn]

Well, in theory, you can die all the time until you get light demons

S - strategy

[green estuary]

fodder demons can only replace fodder demons, heavies can only replace other heavies, and same with superheavies

except there are usually a lot of imp stalkers in a given combat encounter, so even replacing a few of them with higher-tier heavy demons is enough to make the fight significantly more difficult

[solar cairn]

Then the mod is not very interesting

[green estuary]

bro wants to see a cosmic baron in khalim

[solid nacelle]

Respawning cacodemons in the vagary fight

[green estuary]

cacos are one enemy I don't think the mod messes with
something about flying enemy spawns doesn't sit right with the randomizer

[solar cairn]

+++

To have 20 vagary in a small arena

[scenic lichen]

on 50% dmg

hell yeah

[hearty edge]

honestly i also kinda do that sometimes

1st belly of the beast wholly goated tho

i can be aggresive from the start there

[quick oak]

Please help me. When I open Doom the dark ages, I get an error

[meager vortex]

pc spec?

if your pc spec not enough you can't play

[quick oak]

ok : (

[meager vortex]

what is your pc spec then?

[solid bluff]

What error

@quick oak

[round hinge]

guys i wonder if my 1660 super can run this game

lets find out!

[meager vortex]

no

you can't run it

your gpu is not rtx gpu

maybe your gpu fried

if you want burn your gtx 1660 super try your self

and you will change rtx gpu

https://tenor.com/view/boom-explosion-gif-21768412

[bronze surge]

Anything on if perfection skin glitch is getting fixed soon

I neeeeed my prince skin

[undone girder]

Damn

I got the jukebox glitch lol

Not surprised bc I've had two other bugs with the game but still a bit annoying

[bronze surge]

Yeah I hope it's fixed by next ripatorium update I wonder what they do wit it

Multi-player ripatorium 😱

Wouldn't be mad at that

[undone girder]

Would be cool tbh

Make it like classic deathmatch lol

[bronze surge]

Omg ppl crap on it but 2016 multi was so Good in my opinion

I used to smack mfs up on it while playing on the switch bro

I was cracked at doom 2016 multi

[undone girder]

I had two other glitches

One is a missing codex which was Pulverizer, tho it didn't fuck up my platinum or anything. Just wouldn't appear in the menu

Support in their wisdom said to just restart my console 🤣 So that'll have to be patched too

[bronze surge]

Damn yeah

[undone girder]

The other doesn't happen now bc it happened in my UN and Pandemonium runs

I beat a level, it loads the next one, big flash of white then I'm back in the menu

Restarting the level I completed

[bronze surge]

Have u had the glitch where u fall through the map at it just starts playin sum weird sound

[undone girder]

Wish I got to play it lol

It looks cool :D

[bronze surge]

You don't die or anything you're just falling endlessly

[undone girder]

Yes 🤣

[bronze surge]

Omg it's so stupid but funny at the same time

[undone girder]

Had that with Eternal too minus the noise

In fact I fell through the floor in 2016 in my latest run of it

Tho the death triggered lol

[bronze surge]

Yeah it triggers in that game bc falling off the map was an actual risk. Doom eternal I think had it but the dark ages they just said slayer was too strong then.

Just let him respawn magically ig

[undone girder]

Eternal sets you back automatically

Like TDA

[bronze surge]

Ah yeah

They might have done that bc of how...... movement the movement was. Allat movement make a mf yeet himself off the map

[undone girder]

Plus it saves you a 4 hour loading screen lol

[bronze surge]

Ha right lol

I miss when doom eternal first came out

So peak

[undone girder]

It was the game that finally pushed me down the rabbit hole

After years of orbiting around it

[bronze surge]

Yeah that game actually did bring up the popularity of doom majorly. We didn't have this discord til eternal.

[undone girder]

2016 helped it boost a lot but Eternal definitely got it back to mainstream

[bronze surge]

Yeah 2016 was so tuff

Shit I might stream some 2016 later

[undone girder]

And yea I figured lol. Since the game advertises the server

Hell yea

[bronze surge]

Bro when is this server gonna get vc

I was abt to ask if u wanted to hop Inna vc 😭

[undone girder]

It doesn't have it???? Woah

[wheat sigil]

it had, but it was removed

[undone girder]

Ahh rip

[bronze surge]

Oh yeah i remember

Whyd they remove it??

[undone girder]

Did someone throw around slurs or somethin 😭

[wheat sigil]

more like most people

[bronze surge]

I had to resort to my metal server to stream my NIGHTMARE LORE ACTURATE DOOMSLAYER RIPATORIUM GAMEPLAY!!!!!! and to chill and omg the soundtrack for doom tda...

[unkempt dragon]

Imagine a vc in a server of over 134k members

[bronze surge]

Omg right

[wheat sigil]

gaw dam it's grown a lot since tda

[unkempt dragon]

We had it but it became too much of a nightmare to moderate. Ain't no way.

[bronze surge]

Lol I bet. Doom just got too popular for vc

[undone girder]

Fair tbh

I often lurk mic off in vcs anyway

[bronze surge]

Easedroping?

My selective hearing let's me do that irl

[undone girder]

Silent observation :3

[unkempt dragon]

Even if it was capped out to a limited amount who can join at a time, everyone else would be bitching about it and it would cause mayhem.

[bronze surge]

Yes very true

[undone girder]

Yea

[bronze surge]

I like your magic words, magic man

[alpine pilot]

Where

[grizzled thicket]

Why is this the only thing you say

[undone girder]

How far is he in

Oh shit near the end

Awesome

Hopefully my glitches will be fixed by next week lol

Now the game just 100% thinks I'm in Ripatorium to where I can't kill leader demons xD

I know they're aware of it tho so I'm not worryin

I'm more scared abt the missing codex bc I don't feel like starting over to Maybe get it only to not be able to access it

[harsh egret]

no patch is confirmed to come out when he finishes the campaign.

[undone girder]

Ohh ok

Misread lol

[harsh egret]

no, he is confidently saying that they will release a patch then

and i have no clue why

but he does that sometimes

[undone girder]

Oh it's correct? Yea he does that lol

Like I'm glad he's enjoying his own game but still

god dammit lemme in /silly

I'm loving Ripatorium anyway so I can wait lol

Been fun fucking around with bunches of combos

I did max super heavies and that was nuts

[harsh egret]

ye i cant wait for other ripatorium updates they said they will add eventually

i really want to customize each wave individually

[undone girder]

Same

And more arenas

[harsh egret]

thats like my biggest thing thats missing

[harsh egret]

yep

[undone girder]

I wanna see the Resurrection stage be made into an arena

It's a perfect fit

Like just throw in one of its widest areas and you're good

[obsidian shard]

A hell one is needed

and would be SICK as hell

[frail bloom]

There is technically a hell one

I was talking to a guy earlier who was pissed off that Hugo joked abt Doomguy's abs on the last stream

And somehow it links to minors wwo watch the streams??? Like they should avert their eyes or smt??

Then you got ppl asking for elder scrolls 6 and smt abt fallout 76

Who are these ppl genuinely

[harsh egret]

Wdym by yes

Yes as in theres a confirmed patch?

[obsidian shard]

i read that wrong

[frail bloom]

Lol

[harsh egret]

Lmao

[obsidian shard]

I thought it said "Patch is confirmed"

[harsh egret]

Ye apparently Hugo's comment made some people have some interesting thoughts on it

[frail bloom]

Like it was going anywhere

It's a joke

How is it a "selling point"

According to some idiot

[harsh egret]

Doom guy abs = sexual and turning him into a smth i cant say here prob

[frail bloom]

Same guy prob thinks Mr. John Doom loves Thira or smt

Same line of thinking

Reminds me of Slade

[harsh egret]

Some people think that fsr

[frail bloom]

If y'all seen them around

[harsh egret]

I just dont get it sometimes, is all

[frail bloom]

Then you got stupid ppl who think ID software has anything to to with Fallout 76 or Elder scrolls or smt

[harsh egret]

Its just a guy who is angry and strong and wants to kill shit

[frail bloom]

Like out of all the ppl commenting

Ugo where is muh Elder scrolls!!!!!

[green estuary]

me when I realize id software doesn't make all of bethesda's games

[harsh egret]

The game got slightly review bombed when a certain thing happened not long ago on twitter

Nothing even close to the other incident but yk

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/shock-shocker-shocked-black-guy-gif-27526370

[obsidian shard]

And Vice Versa

[harsh egret]

"I'm NOT buying a game made by Bethesda 😡 💢 "

[obsidian shard]

That was THE Stupidest thing ever

[frail bloom]

Also is it true that Alex is looking to add or change things to the dlc ost based on feedback?

I saw it on a comment and even Dinoheretic talked abt it

Where?????

[frail bloom]

What was it

[green estuary]

dunno

[harsh egret]

I mean they will obv look at feedback like for anything else yes

[frail bloom]

Sounds awesome

[harsh egret]

Prob not the place to talk about it here

[frail bloom]

It's that bad?

[harsh egret]

No

[green estuary]

don't worry about it lol

[harsh egret]

But yk

[frail bloom]

Erm ok

[obsidian shard]

The Charlie Kirk thing and Bethesda doing an ad for the Indianna Jones DLC

[harsh egret]

Damn

[frail bloom]

LOL

What does that have to do with ID

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-rainbow-imagination-box-gif-12387358019437193946

[frail bloom]

Lmao

[harsh egret]

U have no idea how stupid some ppl are

[obsidian shard]

As a Canadian, (Outside US Politics) I think that whole situation and people assuming that has anything to do With Charlie is Stupid

[frail bloom]

What's it called when ppl aren't knowleadgable on a certain thing but act like they know all abt the topic

There's a word for this

[wheat sigil]

ultracrepidarian

[harsh egret]

🤓

[frail bloom]

Ye that's it thanks M1

[wheat sigil]

no worries

[frail bloom]

But the word is too fancy

Can we call them Snot balls or smt

[wheat sigil]

absolutely lmao

[frail bloom]

[wheat sigil]

if you use big words in an argument you're automatically correct though!

[frail bloom]

Well yeah cuz you lose the person you're debating with

I wouldn't know what an ultra peredidian or whatever it was until you told me

Ultra-crepi-darian

Why😭

[wheat sigil]

it's like a crêpe but ultra

[frail bloom]

Yummy

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-use-your-brain-use-the-brain-think-brain-gif-7914082

[wheat sigil]

for reals though, most it's most likely just an amalgam of latin stuff which together would mean something similar

many such cases

[frail bloom]

Ye I don't like it when ppl do that

But they gotta win the argument!!!!!!

Not have a discussion apparently

I can win an argument by not engaging or refusing to engage

So I do put forth to you sir that this game is unequivocably inadequate in the sonic frequencies that the prior iterations have formulated

[wheat sigil]

lmfaoo😭

[frail bloom]

Which translates to the songs are poo poo

And the mixing is bad

Well it was bad

Imma play some classic doom now

[warm ibex]

what??

how are these people real man

[heady trout]

Internet has helped reveal how many more stupid people exist than we ever thought possible, as well as generating more stupid people that may have been normal intelligence if the internet didn't exist

[green estuary]

holy shit
a komodo just spawned in siege part 1

https://tenor.com/view/ralph-wiggum-the-simpsons-simpsons-i'm-in-danger-im-in-danger-gif-12212469452113785130

[frail bloom]

Wut

[green estuary]

randomizer

[frail bloom]

Oh

[green estuary]

replaced a cyberdemon

[obsidian shard]

DOOM is rated M

[frail bloom]

It's in the comment section of his stream, not hard to find there's only like 50 comments

[frail bloom]

Ye but he was implying that the joke was sexual

Which it WASN'T

At ALL

If y'all wanna find the comment go ahead

[warm ibex]

relatively unimpressive comment

[frail bloom]

It's just funny

[warm ibex]

I get better nonsensical complaints on a daily basis. He's got work to do lol

[frail bloom]

Like out of all the things to complain abt

It's a joke that like 95% of ppl forgot abt

[obsidian shard]

When is the next video horde...
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/971218217852862544/1425589387512778762/Screenshot_20250430_074424_Gallery3.jpg?ex=68ecc054&is=68eb6ed4&hm=5444f7a4eff9ef07fd14458c6f69854465a1a646e89426fe81df15dfeac8d3e7&=&format=webp

[frail bloom]

Well there'e been no news

[warm ibex]

Also was Hugo even joking? I was under the impression that was another one of his joke hints that end up having some level of validity to them

[frail bloom]

Well it wasn't what the idiot thought it was going to be

[warm ibex]

should have a short out like tomorrow or tuesday afternoon but it's just a summary of upcoming content since my vid audience and shorts audience is a bit different

I have half a news vid written but waiting on next week's stream

[frail bloom]

I personally think it might show a cutscene of classic doomguy

Bc just a scene of him aura farming with his abs out is lame.

We all complained abt all the aura farming so I hope they took it to heart

And don't double down💀

But that won't happen

Hugo said they'll handle cutscenes differently so they might be thinking to add more substance over style

[solid nacelle]

I was hoping they would have had flashbacks of classic doomguy in the base game

[frail bloom]

I actually thought it was gonna happen!!

[scenic lichen]

I dunno man I wouldn’t trust future doom games, Bethesda is prone to screwing up like they did with fallout…

Doom has just been miracle after miracle, Bethesda got lucky

[frail bloom]

I remember some article talking abt him walking out of the portal from 64. There was a Horde mode vid abt it

But it was during January

If someone can find the vid that would be awesome

Aka me I guess

[warm ibex]

Doom is not made by Bethesda, just published

or was that a joke lol

[scenic lichen]

That’s a joke, but scarily enough I’ve read many comments like that who were serious

[warm ibex]

Same here, just wanted to be sure. Sorry man lol

[scenic lichen]

One dude told me to avoid pre ordering TDA because pre order culture sucks and Bethesda might “pull a starfield”

[frail bloom]

It's impossible to tell anymore

Oh my god I'm watching a vid where we were worried abt the shield inputs

So hilarious

Tbf the marketing for it was kinda weird

All one input!!!!!

Do y'all remember the immora vagary variant

[scenic lichen]

Yeah I do, wonder why they cut it it was pr sick

[warm ibex]

That was a leader Vagary

[frail bloom]

We don't have leader vagaries which is weird

I guess it's too tall lol

Or too wide

[warm ibex]

Hugo referred to the Slayer arriving on Argent D'Nur through a "dimensional rift" during a magazine interview back in January but the game itself has no mention of that

[frail bloom]

Oh that was it yeah

I naturally thought we were gonna see that

[uneven dragon]

I think he hasn’t worked out how it’s meant to work yet 😭💔

[frail bloom]

Bummer

[warm ibex]

I do wonder if that was either cut or unsolidified fiction

since Hugo has recently mentioned that he knows we don't like it when they spill the details on everything

[frail bloom]

Well he's right

[warm ibex]

I think they still have some work to do in that regard, and that's one of my few complaints with TDA

[frail bloom]

The world building?

Like fleshing everything out?

[warm ibex]

Learning when to share information and when to withhold it

[frail bloom]

They did overshare every enemy in the game prior to release

Which ruined some things for me

Because I as expecting an Archvile and pain elemental

Weren't they gonna have 4 legged titans????

I feel like that was going to happen at some point

[warm ibex]

Concept art for a four legged titan was shown during the private QC showcase

[frail bloom]

Yeah and naturally ppl woul expect to see four legged titans

[uneven dragon]

i kinda feel like they should here eventually cause like

[warm ibex]

however that could be referring to early concepts for the Ancestral Forge, which includes the four legged titans from Eternal's concept art

[frail bloom]

Why would they show that then

[uneven dragon]

is doom actually a multiverse?? what do they mean by Dimension ??? how tf did any of this happen

like yea sure be mysterious a bit but like rn 50% of modern doom lore is essentially headcanon

[frail bloom]

No no they have shomething up their shleeves guys

They're just waiting to reveal it trust

In like 5 years

[uneven dragon]

im also not really a fan about how hugo doesnt want to adapt any slayer testament stuff in tda???

this is a game literally about doom guy's time with the sentinels, tf?

[frail bloom]

Because they're eons long

[uneven dragon]

what do you mean "but then we couldn't do it later" DO SOME OF IT NOW 😭

[frail bloom]

How do you not know that????

[uneven dragon]

THIS IS THE MEDIEVAL GAME DON'T WANT FOR MEDIEVAL GAME 2 😭

[frail bloom]

Your complaint makes no sense ngl

[uneven dragon]

just because the testaments as a whole span eons doesn't mean we can't visit any events from them??

[frail bloom]

No dude that's skipping eons

[uneven dragon]

idk how to tell you this but games dont need to release in order

[frail bloom]

Dumb complaint

[uneven dragon]

this game is literally a prequel 😭 fym

But if we do a game set during some of the slayer testament stuff.. then.. then we can NEVER do it AGAIN

[frail bloom]

I don't get it

What do you want to see?

[warm ibex]

imo 2016 did it best by sharing just enough information to create mystery and intrigue without providing definitive answers. It builds the world while leaving room to build it even further in the future. Eternal overshared at every turn and completely did away with the mystery aspect while TDA adds more surface-level depth without building intrigue. It's a step in the right direction but not quite there

[uneven dragon]

im not asking for literally every slayer testament thing im asking for some of the actual events pre-2016 that were being teased instead of a game that pretty much just ignores anything we knew happened beforehand 😭

[frail bloom]

Like what?

Don't say the ancient titan fight

Cuz I'll find you

[uneven dragon]

any of the maykr betrayal and hell priest shenanigans for a start though i'll forgive them if it happens in dlc

[frail bloom]

Well duh they need to build it up

I'm expecting it in dlc

[uneven dragon]

not rly we already knew it happened it could've just been set a little later

[frail bloom]

Bc then you hsve the civil war, which is also years long

[warm ibex]

that happens down the line, no chance it happens in the dlc

[frail bloom]

Doom games span across 2 days of time

[uneven dragon]

yea which is why tda sux 😭

[frail bloom]

You think they set it too early?

[uneven dragon]

"lets make a game set during this time period we've built up but never use any events from said time period we set up" THIS IS LUNACY

[frail bloom]

Well yeah cuz everyone expects them

[uneven dragon]

and?? 😭

[frail bloom]

Subvert le expectations

[harsh egret]

??

[warm ibex]

tda sucks because... they started with the beginning of a several year long storyline instead of either starting at the end or cramming it all into one game?

[uneven dragon]

another issue i have with the hugo mindset is "if we make a game where we show doomguy being put in the sarcophagus, weve closed off that time period and cant go there again" NO??? 😭 LOL??? MAKE A PREQUEL 😭

[warm ibex]

jesus christ

[frail bloom]

Wait this is waaaayy too far down the timeline

I thought you meant the nekravol discovery

You mean when he's trapped in hell?????

[uneven dragon]

dude i do not need 15 fucking medieval doom games

[frail bloom]

Dawg

[warm ibex]

ah this is nonsense lol

[frail bloom]

Is this ragebait

[green estuary]

well you also have like 7 trillion codexes that already tell you what happened in said time period

[frail bloom]

Hoovy is a smart fella

Not a fart smella

C'mon hoovy

[uneven dragon]

ok and do you not think it would be cool to VISIT those codexes mate

[frail bloom]

Aren't you the lore guy

Why you acting like this

[uneven dragon]

samir u are absolutely waffling man fuck up

[frail bloom]

This is for the laughs

[warm ibex]

THIS is the type of nonsense I expect from the doom community, not that "inappropriate joke" junk that fella was leaving in the bethesda comments

[frail bloom]

Ah I see

You got me you got me

They're just joking guys

[uneven dragon]

nonsense and its "i wish the things we heard happened in the medieval period of doom happened in the medieval game"

[warm ibex]

yeah and we'll get those in the next medieval doom game

[uneven dragon]

ok but why not this one

[warm ibex]

because who the fuck wants to start telling a sotry in the middle of it?

[uneven dragon]

"it would be jumping into later in the story" need i remind you of 2016 to Eternal lol they skipped an entire decade

[green estuary]

don't particularly care tbh
because compared to the codexes, the best the limited time they have for cutscenes could do is pay lipservice to them

[warm ibex]

that's genuinely not even true

[uneven dragon]

we're already starting later into the story than the VERY beginning in TDA

[uneven dragon]

they literally did what

they skipped so much hugo said they'd make a midquel comic (did not happen)

[warm ibex]

oh, one of these guys. nah I'm good

[green estuary]

like yeah, fanservice to touch on one of the codex pages would be cool
but the story isn't even gonna cover much of it anyway

[uneven dragon]

i mean hugo literally did say that what

[green estuary]

it's one of those things that sounds cool when you talk about it but then in-game it's fairly underwhelming, cuz you're expecting so much more

[uneven dragon]

🤷‍♀️ i would be sufficiently whelmed

[frail bloom]

Hoovy crashout before gta 6

Lmao

It's called patience hoovy

[green estuary]

maybe

[uneven dragon]

hoovy crashout because i expressed what i'd like to see in the medieval game and im being demonised lmfao

[frail bloom]

It's why tag two sucked

Cuz they stuffed too much

[green estuary]

no, tag2 sucked because the writing was shit

[uneven dragon]

tag 2 sucked because it rushed into a plotline that could've been its own game and was detached from eternal

[frail bloom]

Ye they killed the dark lord in the dlc

Imagine stuffing decades of storytelling into one game

[uneven dragon]

mate

[green estuary]

that's not required

[frail bloom]

Well you hsve the crusades, the civil war

[uneven dragon]

dude if you unironically think im saying "put EVERY PART OF THE TESTAMENTS INTO ONE GAME. make this game cover THE ENTIRE EON" you need to reread NOW

you need to reread my posts mate

[frail bloom]

But what you want is also too far down

You can't have those cuz they're building them up

[uneven dragon]

it's literally not bro

[green estuary]

it wouldn't be a ridiculous ask for the guys at id to put an event that happened during the testaments in the dlc

[uneven dragon]

imagine if we couldn't get the plot of eternal because we needed to see doomguy escape wherever he got teleported to in 2016 and find the fortress of doom and

[frail bloom]

The only thing I expect is the nekravol discovery

[uneven dragon]

No?? Lol??

[frail bloom]

Anything after is too far down

[green estuary]

but at the same time, we'd be seeing a lot happen in cutscenes that is out of our control, since obviously the slayer doesn't end up being completely victorious
it'd be like us getting stabbed by ahzrak in the boss fight cutscene but even more so

[uneven dragon]

literally the game was marketed with phrases from the testaments and we're setting it in the time doomguy was with the sentinels i dont think it is much to ask for the prequel game to 2016 to involve events 2016 said preceded it 😭

[frail bloom]

dawg what events

What are you yapping abt

[uneven dragon]

dude youre actually ignoring everything im saying

[frail bloom]

The prior example you gave was from eternal's codeces

[uneven dragon]

can you not willfully be ignorant if youre gonna disagree

[frail bloom]

No it just doesn't make sense

[uneven dragon]

oh sorry i guess i shouldve said "also events that eternal said preceded 2016"

[warm ibex]

Here's two concepts of the four legged titan. First one is the World Spear (which was dropped quickly) and the second is the Ancestral Forge https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892238793174818848/1427028345073172621/colin-geller-cg-dtda-ws.png?ex=68ed5f36&is=68ec0db6&hm=e8baa842eaa09cb895231f5b3a4b60e39359e939ea39801046a2a1813d503e62& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892238793174818848/1427028345639538710/colin-geller-cg-dtda-forge-lookdev-ancestral-3-v1.png?ex=68ed5f36&is=68ec0db6&hm=b12c02fd2ec5908b7a417da9a7374c672b359db07495dbb0b20a3ed352f33635&

[uneven dragon]

tuff shouldve stayed in game

dlc 🙏

[green estuary]

it's not hard to understand
the slayers testaments (from 2016) have events that could be integrated into the dlc
can the dlc include all of said testaments? no
but they could still include an event or two that did happen

like the forging of the praetor suit, etc

[obsidian shard]

TDA takes place During the Unholy Crusades

[uneven dragon]

EXACTLY MAN

[frail bloom]

But why cut up your story like that and jump up and down

[uneven dragon]

finally somebody who understand

[green estuary]

ye I know

[frail bloom]

Y'all sound impatient

[uneven dragon]

2016 -> Eternal

[obsidian shard]

I dont wanna see that ugly abomination please

[frail bloom]

But it's chronoloogical

[warm ibex]

And they likely will be, as the testaments directly refer to the hunting of the Hell Priests

[obsidian shard]

(I HATE the 2016 Armor)

[green estuary]

bruh it's not impatience
it's not like they have an unlimited supply of doom games to tell the story

[uneven dragon]

horde probably thinks im saying all of TDA sucks and not just that i have issues with the story even though it's my favourite doom game lol

[green estuary]

[frail bloom]

No no no

This is what I think is gonna happen alr

[obsidian shard]

I'm Sorry

[uneven dragon]

hugo is legit just too afraid to do any doom games set during the codexes and sometimes it doesn't even make sense

[warm ibex]

I started ignoring your complaints after the Eternal midquel thing

[uneven dragon]

like the time he said on stream "if we make the game end with the sarcophagus then we're locked out of that time period" what???????? no lol? youre literally making a prequel what do you think prequels are

[obsidian shard]

I Mean TDA DLC is gonna be the Hunting of the High Council

[uneven dragon]

omg bro

thats literally what hugo said he was gonna do

[frail bloom]

I think we're gonna hunt the high council in dlc and see the nekravol discovery, then in the dark ages sequel we're gonna be in the civil war after some timeskip, and then the last prequel can be set in the slayers testaments.

[uneven dragon]

like am i wrong for saying eternal skips 2016's cliffhanger lol it did

[frail bloom]

That's my predictions

[uneven dragon]

eternal skips a lot of story

[obsidian shard]

Peak

[frail bloom]

That's 3 games on their own

[uneven dragon]

the fact hugo said he'd make a prequel comic for it means he agrees

[uneven dragon]

dude i do not want 3 medieval doom games that's like directly against shaking things up every game

[undone girder]

[frail bloom]

Well they won't be exactly the same

[undone girder]

unacceptable /silly

[obsidian shard]

2 is good imo (DLC can be the Testaments)

[uneven dragon]

2 i'll accept

[frail bloom]

One can be more space themed, one can be set in different biomes in hell and different realms

Like what's your problem

[wheat sigil]

if you'd read between the lines, you clearly would've seen from where the fortress came whixh was never mentioned at all among a ton of other stuff🥱

[undone girder]

I think they'll make 2 tbh, both with dlcs

2016 and Eternal were a duology after all

[frail bloom]

They can shake things up they're ID

[uneven dragon]

i do not want 3 games to tell a story that requires 2 at most if you don't focus on random stuff

[uneven dragon]

😭 💔

[obsidian shard]

1 Medieval = TDA + DLC
2nd Medieval = Civil War + Testaments DLC

[frail bloom]

One game for each massive time period

[green estuary]

the whole draw of modern doom is that every game brings a new experience to the table
multiple medieval themed games in a row doesn't really jive with that
sure, you can say that 2016 and eternal kinda have similar theming, but not really

[uneven dragon]

dlc would have to be nearer the end of the testaments

[undone girder]

I just assume Sam teleported him to Sentinel Prime and he found the fortress and cleaned it up to go back

[uneven dragon]

i don't want to see a literal eon depicted in the games i want the games to focus on the main events

[frail bloom]

No 2016 to eternal is very similar

[uneven dragon]

exactly lol

[obsidian shard]

Civil war ends when slayer gets trapped in hell

then do the testaments

[frail bloom]

How do you know the civil war and the unholy crusades are gonna be "too similar"

[obsidian shard]

(Half of em)

[wheat sigil]

i think he won it in a burger eating competition

[green estuary]

not at all
maybe in terms of the techno-setting, but 2016 has a completely different atmosphere and feel compared to eternal
you know this

[undone girder]

Argenta burger eating contest <- everyone else died years ago so he wins immediately

[frail bloom]

Yes but what makes you think they can't do the same for the next game???

[green estuary]

yeah, if they end up doing that I'll be cool

[frail bloom]

It can be set in the same time period but with a different theme

[undone girder]

This looks abt right tbh

[green estuary]

but they can't afford to draw out the whole medieval theming too much

[frail bloom]

Like civil war but everything is samurai themed or smt

[wheat sigil]

those wimps..

[uneven dragon]

bro it's a medieval setting 😭

[frail bloom]

Like some medieval some samurai some spsce

[obsidian shard]

Exactly Plus i know the lore pretty damn good (I should totally work at id)

[frail bloom]

Maybe add a new realm in there

[undone girder]

The medieval theming can only go so far lol, they'd already have to shake it up for the sequel

[frail bloom]

Why are y'all doubting ID

[uneven dragon]

and then you're not really with the sentinel knights

[undone girder]

Now it's FOUR different dimensions out to end you :D

[frail bloom]

Horde already left he knows how stupid this convo is

[obsidian shard]

let me cook on this

[undone girder]

I do still think the dlc will probably focus a bit on Cosmic stuff or a 4th realm

[wheat sigil]

what's it even about like whar

[obsidian shard]

Def cosmic

[harsh egret]

"learn to sit back and observe, not everything needs a reaction"

[obsidian shard]

I mean The Witch is still Alive

[undone girder]

Since it was made after the sequel games they'd probably delve into the death of the dimension

[frail bloom]

No idea😭

[undone girder]

Idk either lmfao

I'm just here bc my game glitched and am seeking to cure boredom

[wheat sigil]

so, cycler, huh

[frail bloom]

I'm gonna bring m0no out of his slumber let's see what he says

[uneven dragon]

horde thinks the convo is stupid because he refused to engage

[harsh egret]

what

are u ok

[uneven dragon]

he literally said he wasnt reading my messages LOL

[obsidian shard]

Also known as Ulsamir to the Denizens of Hell!

[harsh egret]

yh cuz ur msgs r stupid

[undone girder]

My safety net gun if SSG feels risky tbh

[harsh egret]

therefore no need to engage

[obsidian shard]

Leave my Goat alone

[uneven dragon]

A flaw in TDA's story is that despite it being marketed as a 2016 prequel, marketed with statements from the Testaments, and covering Doomguy with the sentinels, and yet doesn't actually cover most of the events 2016 and Eternal set up happening prior

[obsidian shard]

Cycler so peak

[uneven dragon]

well go on then if they are you can explain why right?

[undone girder]

Didn't they say somethin like her able to bounce to other vessels or some means of respawn

Yea she's definitely out there lol

[frail bloom]

But it does cover some testamnets

[wheat sigil]

oh yeah that felt kinda weird for sure

[frail bloom]

@hard thistle

[uneven dragon]

see exactly

[obsidian shard]

I dont remeber anything about the Testaments for advertisments for the game

[harsh egret]

they were

but i just think ppl read too much into it

[wheat sigil]

my wild take is that cycler kinda overrated

[frail bloom]

They said it would lead into them

Even tho they already are set in them

[uneven dragon]

in the marketing they used quotes from them

[undone girder]

There was one I recognize where Hugo said that TDA was in the time period of "the first age, the first battle"

[frail bloom]

In the first age, in the first batrle

[undone girder]

Yea

[frail bloom]

Ye we are playing that currently my man

[undone girder]

Yea

[frail bloom]

Infact we already have, in the classic games

In the first age, first battle

[uneven dragon]

"first battle" = All of Doom 1 to TDA?

[idle elk]

Horse mode gaming

[uneven dragon]

fuckin long battle

[undone girder]

I mean the testaments did also make note of the Slayer having a "sword and shield"

And he does have a shield

[frail bloom]

Doom 1 was the first battle

iirc

[uneven dragon]

so why did hugo say tda was "in the first age in the first battle" lol

[undone girder]

Sword was always his super shotty

[harsh egret]

doubt lol

that makes no sense rly

[frail bloom]

M0no can explain it better

[uneven dragon]

yea that was pretty cool i would've liked to see. A sword then

[frail bloom]

I think I'm twisting his words

[obsidian shard]

After Getting powers Slayer fights Titan, Maykr's now scared of his power so they Tether him and then TDA

[frail bloom]

M0no help me lol

[idle elk]

The second battle happens tomorrow

[obsidian shard]

You got an Upgrade (me)

[uneven dragon]

mate I am very well aware of m0no's explanation my point is that even if m0no is right Hugo used the phrase "in the first age in the first battle" for TDA which means even if Hugo is wrong he still marketed TDA incorrectly

[undone girder]

Like a predecessor for a Crucible or like a cosmic realm blade like Dreadmace

[uneven dragon]

im not saying "the first battle can't be doom 1!!!" im saying hugo straight up used it for something else

[frail bloom]

Well he said they lead into them in the dec direct

Aka dlc

[obsidian shard]

But Infinitly Dense Mace is funny and cool

[frail bloom]

Aka hunting high council

[uneven dragon]

🤷‍♀️

[uneven dragon]

oh yea maces are much cooler than swords for real

[frail bloom]

Also hugo actually confirmed they will be telling a chapter or two of the slayers story in the dlc

[undone girder]

Mhm

Then they could use Eternal's art book for stuff. Like Erebus

[undone girder]

Based

[frail bloom]

Like from the codeces

[obsidian shard]

Flail is the Coolest for me, like the Skill needed for Those things is crazy

[uneven dragon]

id rather get that in the base game personally

[frail bloom]

Too late m8

5 months late

[obsidian shard]

TDA was to Expand the SLayers Story

[unkempt dragon]

hi everyone

[frail bloom]

Ye they added the dragon

[obsidian shard]

DLC is Expand + get into what we know

[frail bloom]

Hello my brain hurts

[obsidian shard]

Howdy LM! How ya doing?

[unkempt dragon]

good, just on break at work. Everyone getting along in here?

[frail bloom]

Amazing

[obsidian shard]

Yes and No, hard to tell

[grizzled thicket]

Ello LM

[undone girder]

I'm just in orbit being stupid

[frail bloom]

Simlpy divine

[undone girder]

I am trying lol

[uneven dragon]

if they're gonna adapt the sword anyway it'd have to be in a doom game that has proper melee combat again rather than 2016/Eternal style stuff

[obsidian shard]

Exactly

[undone girder]

Yea

[obsidian shard]

TDA melee is pretty good imo, Best choice for the Type of game it is, and Miles above the Previous ones!

[undone girder]

Also hi Horde we apologize for disturbing thou lair

[undone girder]

Yea the melee is very fun tbh

[wheat sigil]

i personally think that clicking 2 buttons to watch an animation killing any enemy in the game really feeds into hugo's words of the player needing to "earn the power fantasy" in eternal

[green estuary]

why tf will siege part 1 not stop spawning komodos on me

STOP

[obsidian shard]

Its fun and Strong, but fair

[undone girder]

One of my favorite funny bits to do is to just throw the shield at plasma shield soldiers

And just watching it ping pong across every single guy

[uneven dragon]

TDA melee is cool but I'd love to properly melee an enemy like the classics/Doom 3

like imagine if we got to use a sword like in dusk :O

[uneven dragon]

who wouldve thought the best captain america game would be a doom game

[green estuary]

well the 2016 punch is pretty much equivalent

[undone girder]

Ancestral Beast playing increasingly louder

[obsidian shard]

Just about to say that

[uneven dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/true-annoying-orange-orange-fun-gif-13311891

[obsidian shard]

But the Pre-rendered Slop for next year (I Despise Pre-render)

[harsh egret]

Horde r u gonna do a wall of text jumpscare

[undone girder]

I am frightened

[obsidian shard]

[wheat sigil]

that or his mom needed to talk to him so he's actually just been typing for 45 seconds

who knows

[harsh egret]

im literally not queueing a battlefield game cuz i was waiting to see what he was gonna send

[green estuary]

in the leader mancububs encounter I just got a komodo, 3 acolytes, a whiplash, and a rev, along with like 3 mancs

[harsh egret]

and its been ages

dark ages?

[wheat sigil]

you can probably see what he sends and read it before you load into a bm game😭

[undone girder]

In the first age

[harsh egret]

lmao

[frail bloom]

Horde's gonna horde

He's horden it

Horse

[undone girder]

Horde of Words Mode Gaming

Worde Mode 😭

[frail bloom]

H O R D E

[wheat sigil]

lmaoo😭

[harsh egret]

🐴

[warm ibex]

To my knowledge, the entirety of the Slayer's time with the Sentinels (at least prior to the Civil War) is the first age and the "first battle". The 2016 Slayer Testaments cover a very wide period of time ranging from Doomguy's divinity machine enhancement (which we saw in Eternal) all the way until his eventual defeat and entombment prior to 2016's opening. From what I've gathered throughout the past year, the complaints regarding TDA's "incorrect marketing" are based upon a misunderstanding of how much ground the Testaments cover and not an actual misstep in marketing (since labeling TDA as "the first age" and "The first battle" is entirely correct)

[frail bloom]

Doom the horde ages

[warm ibex]

response is a little late but I thought I should contribute something lol

[frail bloom]

Horde cooking fr

Just brayed a banger fellas

🐴

[idle elk]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-alert-icon-warning-you-have-alerted-the-horse-gif-24860389

[cursive grotto]

@midnight cedar yo bro are you there

[undone girder]

One thing I'm often stumbling over is that 2016 specifies 4 ages

I sometimes forgot if all 4 occur before the Maykrs' betrayal and Marok's death or just some of it

Now I know tho lol

[uneven dragon]

the ages happen whenever hugo feels like it happens at the time because he doesn't actually have any of it worked out and hopes the fans will solve it for him

[idle elk]

Just like fnaf

[uneven dragon]

when 2016 came out i was pretty certain they were meant to represent the eras of doom but i don't think that is the case anymore unfortunately given the "first age first battle" stuff

[undone girder]

Horrible insult
At least Doom lore is fun to speculate 🤣

[uneven dragon]

which i think given hugo's comments it is safe to say it isn't particularly doom 1

[obsidian shard]

And we have an Aura defining badass demigod as our protagonist

[undone girder]

Hell yea

[uneven dragon]

i think they're roughly equal nowadays lol

[obsidian shard]

Mancubus lore is DOOM peak lore tho

[idle elk]

Horde already said that freddy fazbear would win against the slayer

[undone girder]

This sounds about right tbh

Now I just think it's just all the stuff before 2016, probably at least largely before the Maykrs and the Icon of Sin returning

[uneven dragon]

ucn is the worst fnaf game to speculate on but that's because i'm right always and everyone who disagrees with me ever is wrong and also Stupid

[undone girder]

Kirby lore is also fun to speculate too

[hard thistle]

Which is kind of dumb because "in the First Age, in the first battle" was supposed to be Doom 1993. But oh well.

[uneven dragon]

wow i didnt expect m0no to actually agree ngl

[undone girder]

The metaphysical mystery behind Orb with Eyeball

You know I think any form of Dark Matter would be at home in the Cosmic Realm tbh

[obsidian shard]

Cosmic Matter actually

[warm ibex]

Has there ever been any direct confirmation of when the first age actually begins? I'm under the impression that it's almost entirely up for player interpretation at this current point since it could refer to both classic DOOM or the TDA time period

[hard thistle]

No yeah I have always felt this way. It's referring to Doom 1993. Doom 1993 is Hell's first invasion after the fall of Davoth. And only one person survived, Doomguy

[obsidian shard]

And Larry

[undone girder]

Nope
It says something abt demons first appearing in Argent D'Nur within Eternal's codexes, and Taras Nabad was his first fight with them

So I think it's. TN?

[undone girder]

God that would be so trippy

[uneven dragon]

i think at the time of 2016 the ages were meant to be the "eras" of doom and the 'dark lords' were the big bads of those games but after hugo's yappery about tda it's probably just meant to be sentinel shit onward :<

[hard thistle]

It's kind of vague, but usage of "the Dark Lord of the (X)th Age" implies that an Age begins and ends with the reign of a certain Dark Lord. Davoth was dead before Doom 1993, which was in the First Age, which means Davoth's reign was pre-history and the First Age begins when he falls.

[uneven dragon]

so at the time of 2016 i guess it would be like 1+2/64/3/2016

[undone girder]

Yea

[hard thistle]

For example Doom 2016 is supposed to be in the Fourth Age. Because the Aranea Imperatrix is the Dark Lord of the Fourth Age.

[undone girder]

I kinda went with it too bc I always thought the past Dark Lords after Davoth were just big bosses

[uneven dragon]

i cant hate tda too much for not being during big events cause the dream doom game i'd make if i was working with id would be between Doom 2 and Legacy of Rust/Doom 64 LMFAO just utter filler

[warm ibex]

That's what I was going to suggest, since it seems like there was technically an "age zero" during Davoth's reign

[undone girder]

Unless they directly show who took up Davoth's role as DL I'm still gonna go with it

[frail bloom]

Guys am I disrespecting David by saying that Thronebreaker sounds too similar to Immora's tracks

[uneven dragon]

it sounds like immora sure but also immora sounds freaking awesome so

[obsidian shard]

I agree with your Statement, would be good for like a Kreed boss fight track

it just doesnt fit the Raw Primalness of TDA

[undone girder]

Like currently my lineup feels like

DL1 - Maledict
DL2 - Ahzrak
DL3 - Gladiator or Baalgar
DL4 - Spider Mastermind

[obsidian shard]

imo

[uneven dragon]

i'd like to play a tda level with thronebreaker over it though just to see how i feel

[obsidian shard]

Doesnt fit levels well imo, fits Kreed good

[undone girder]

It has a bit of the feel but Immora didn't come to my mind much

Compliment tho bc Immora was my favorite of his

[hard thistle]

Yeah no that is 100% it.

TDA presents an exception to the Lord thing, because Ahzrak is not a Dark Lord. Rather, he is trying to become Dark Lord by proving his worth to the High Council (which seem to be a precursor to the Archdemons).

Thus we can infer that the First Age did not have a true Dark Lord. Rather, the High Council assumed leadership after Davoth's death and used the invasion of Argent D'Nur to vet potential successors to Davoth. We can assume someone after Ahzrak finally qualified, becoming the Dark Lord of the Second Age, with the High Council willingly becoming his subordinate council as the Order of the Six (Archdemons).

[obsidian shard]

i suggest trying it but thats imo

[uneven dragon]

i wish immora was a much better level because holy fuck immora's track is awesome

it really does feel like an onslaught

[undone girder]

Red Urdak

Immora is very fun but yea it was short

[undone girder]

It just spells out Last Round Fuckers Let's Do It

[wheat sigil]

man all the flat arenas and such in tag2 are so unfortunate

and just the spawns in general, but at least those can be fixed by mods

[warm ibex]

Man that's why I stopped discussing your complaints earlier lol, not because of Hugo's statements. I don't think there's much room for anyone to complain about starting the medieval chapter prior to the huge events but wanting the Eternal midquel filler content and a game set between Doom II and LoR/64

[uneven dragon]

tbf though my dream game also wouldn't be a big budget one and it'd be a spinoff

but also what when did i say i wanted midquel filler content

i used that as an example of hugo skipping story stuff to get to the big events

[warm ibex]

Eternal comic and explaining the supposed "decade" between 2016 and Eternal

[uneven dragon]

i wasn't saying "i want tda to be the big events but also i want this filler"

i didnt say i wanted the comic i said hugo skipped all of that story for eternal which is what i'd have done with some of tda

[hard thistle]

My dream Doom game is a Metroidvania-like Doom 3 style game following the Intern after TAG fighting against the remnants of the Cultist UAC who are making engineered demons from human corpses.

[uneven dragon]

if i made a doom game the early game would be very doom 3 lol

[hard thistle]

Also I don't know what the TDA complaints are but I loved TDA's story.

[undone girder]

I did too

It's definitely the most emotionally heavy one imo

[uneven dragon]

Speaking as someone who didn't dislike TDA's story and whose favourite Doom game is TDA I personally felt like it should've covered more events that were set up to have happened prior to 2016/Eternal 🤷‍♀️ that was it

then people started acting like i wanted all of the testaments to be condensed into one game and that for some reason i wanted tda to not exist but the eternal prequel comic to exist or whatever idk

[warm ibex]

That's not at all what happened

[hard thistle]

I don't blame you, but I personally loved the focus on Ahzrak and stuff. Ahzrak was the best villain in the series. Personally I am hoping the DLC goes more into the Argenta Civil War.

[uneven dragon]

that is literally what happened

samir repeatedly kept asking why i wanted to condense allat to one game and you just said you thought i wanted eternal's prequel comic

[wooden olive]

I like it

[uneven dragon]

cosmic realm was a good addition at least i was happy they expanded on tag 2 stuff

[unkempt dragon]

[obsidian shard]

Hell yeah, Ahzrak was also just COOL in general

[uneven dragon]

it does have the unfortunate side effects of intern acting like nobody has any clue what it is despite them literally going there eons prior but it's fine lol

[warm ibex]

But samir wasn't the only person in the conversation, you're skipping a good portion of the discussion

[uneven dragon]

i literally... mentioned you partially in that message too

what??? dude i just mentioned a part of the convo

why do you keep interpreting everything i'm saying in the worst faith possible???

[warm ibex]

yes, and that portion just happened a few moments ago

[unkempt dragon]

If you all could not right now I'd appreciate it

[undone girder]

Davoth is my favorite but yea Ahzrak is a good second imo

[uneven dragon]

and it was an example of you misunderstanding me ?

[uneven dragon]

ooh spicy take i like it

if we're talking modern doom i'd have to put olivia first place if we mean doom as a whole maybe betruger is my favourite

[undone girder]

Oooh that's a rare one

[hard thistle]

Betruger was my favorite until Ahzrak.

[uneven dragon]

i'd want like a very doom 64/3 vibe for the early game and then it'd slowly get closer to doom 2/eternal as the game progresses

go from You vs The Demons to The Demons vs You

[uneven dragon]

even though it's been months i haven't properly ranked him in my brain

[cursive grotto]

I love davoth as a character and his general vibe is really cool including his voice, but his fight just sucks

[uneven dragon]

i actually enjoyed his fight even though i recognise it's not great

[cursive grotto]

Me when green eye ssg hammer for the 13th time

[uneven dragon]

i just don't like what davoth represents personally and it's just a bit too hard to get over

[cursive grotto]

I still don't even know what happened story wise in tag1 and 2 lmao

I saw some videos about them but never bothered watching

[cursive grotto]

ESPECIALLY what happened at the end of tag2

I still don't get anything about that ending

[warm ibex]

I don't think it's worth investing time into the TAG story until a game comes along to solidify/iterate on what's been established

unless you're just super invested in the narrative

[uneven dragon]

i feel like they should just go back and change it but it's whatever

it's too late to change the story beats i hate anyway but immora being more fleshed out would be nice

[cursive grotto]

Immora feels weird to me

[undone girder]

P1 - Go to revive Satan and shoot alien doctor in the face. Blow up God's plasma ball and doom Heaven forever

P2 - Blow up Satan who is additionally God bc funny

[unkempt dragon]

People need to lay off the devs. They put a lot of work into these games and aren't going to change things from years ago most likely.

[uneven dragon]

yeah i know i know

it'd be nice to see a tag without covid happening tho