#the-dark-ages
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Played Eternal and safe to say it's easy. The dark ages that is
Modifying it so it's easy
well, it's not easy per se, but with the default parry window on nightmare it's easier than eternal/2016 on nightmare
if you turn the parry window down though, it becomes harder than eternal imo
The fact you can cheese UN by setting all the sliders to benefit you is kinda cringe but eh at least it tells you whether you did a modded run or not
Its also the Hardest game
TDA i mean
for me with the parry window down its kinda on par with eternal
Maybe I just have waaaayyy more practice on Eternal and that's why I disagree (Again I beat UN)
I mean, each game got its rules and gimmick and TDA is hard for its rules and so Eternal
Things get wayy better after Act 1 ends
It's weird, I enabled auto sprint and enemy locator (I forgot it's name but it tells u abt projectiles and stuff) and that helped
that's probably it
but I also find it harder than eternal on min parry even though I have like 115 hours in tda lmao
I just have auto sprint on, if I dont know where the enemy is, that's on me
I lowk wish TDA had sprint slide functionality
max AI count is 60
Huh interesting
I have been attacked by invisible opps and not just the nightmare stalkers
We don't need to codify the game
nightmare imps can honestly go fuck themselves 
They giving stealth boys to the mancubus now
This game clicks with me until I die due to the enemy spam, especially in bigger, flatter arenas
Go into it angrier tbh
Anger translates fairly well into Doom
I'm not
it's just a fun suggestion
I'm not proposing ultrakill levels of goofiness lmao
Anger doesn't work for me, it just makes me fuck up
And God of war
Aight lol
you kinda have to treat every encounter as a puzzle to an extent
in eternal you just circle around the arena and shoot stuff until they die, but in TDA it's usually easier if you have a plan of which enemies you're gonna tackle first
Kratos calling Ares for the 666th time
Die and learn 💔
Any game where the protagonist is just as angry as you are tbh
Live and learn
I just lock in and end up doing the craziest combos
That's actually the most accurate description of each game's gameplay
Im not a big fan of the whole "treat encounter as puzzle", that's why I don't really fw the Master levels in Eternal bc in the end it's just dying a lot and figuring out how to deal with each arena, when I like the idea of being surprised and having to quickly figure out a way to survive y'know, that's why randomizer is fun
not even that
if you just look at what's going on around you, it should feel pretty natural to see which enemies are high priority
arachnotron/mortar mancubus next to some explosive barrels? get them out of the way first
etc
EXACTLY
Strategize
Chill
eternal ML fights aren't really puzzles imo
they just throw a bunch of shit at you to test how good your movement/dps is
Doom Eternal: Fly and dash
TDA: A fucking tank
Okay so tell me this, I see high priority targets, but there's everyone else, I can't exactly charge at them/pick them while ignoring everyone else
Thats also why TDA is my favourite, you Feel like a Tank!
And don't get me wrong I'm relatively new at this game
I feel very vulnerable, idk where this tank feeling comes from
work your way through is the best
imo
Well I feel like a tank in the less massive arenas admittedly, when there's not the whole 60 ai limit shooting at me
what makes you have to ignore everything else?
If its too much, Just change the difficulty a bit
I think Seige is overwhelming to me bc of just how many enemies there are
Which is ironic because according to chronological order and lore, The slayer in Eternal is far stronger and older than TDA slayer and yet TDA managed to make you feel that way and Eternal not
Very true, I felt like an eagle, flying around as a predator but could be shot down at any time
The "tank feeling" really fades away when I feel the need to strafe and take cover alot, maybe I'd feel more like a tank if the shield wasn't made out of cardboard when it comes to the non parry-able projectiles
Like when y'all say tank what do you even mean, bc tanks stand very still and shoot 🤓
I'm sorry if coming off as aggressive/confrontational but I'm lost
it'll click dw
:(
in big battlefields I tend to just work my way from the outside in
Upgrading the Shield is Vital
(First thing i did)
And that's exactly what you do in TDA
I mean, fair enough? Eternal clicked for me in Ark Complex
not really
How
What difficulty you playing on
You're only just more agile

Shield is always top priority when it comes to upgrades 👍
how are you commenting on what the game is/isn't if you haven't played it 
Nightmare with
High Resources
50% Damage to demons
300% to Slayer
^^
Cardboard Slayer cutout that shoots confetti
I watched the entire gameplay and know how it plays and I played both Eternal and 2016 so I'm very familiar with the game and how it plays 🤷
I will never understand how people like lowered damage to demons
Damn bro straight up reviewing a game he never played himself I'm sick
no, you aren't lmao
if you haven't played the game, then you are not familiar with how the gameplay is
DONT JUDGE ME, (I like being in combat longer)
^^^
Longer combo
Have you considered 1% damage given and 500% received ❤️
Excuse me for not paying for a single player campaign that I can just watch on YouTube
10 minute enhanced ahzrak fight 🥀
ive Tried 500% and uh ya nah
1% would be so peak
This is some bizarre behavior I've never seen before
50000 Shots to kill 1 mancubus
Whatever you say 🤷
I mean yeah, that's just how that works. You can't throw your two cents into gameplay features or combat balancing for a game you've literally never played 💀
Like I understand watching the cutscenes and getting the story, but never in the history of ever has one person known about the gameplay of a game by watching a playthrough
if you don't want to play it, that's your prerogative
but I don't really understand how you think you can offer definitive statements about a game's gameplay that you have never experienced
Maybe FNAF fans??? Even then barely
FNAF is mostly lore tbh
Fred fast bear
The gameplay is just look both ways before crossing the street & stranger danger
ricochet, shield saw, repeat ad infinitum
I get the whole "Play the game before reviewing" but doesn't mean I can say what I think based on a the gameplay clips and videos too 🤷
SSG, RL, the Cycler
CHAINSHOT
Honestly thats just because it's a slightly older game
You can say and you can rightfully be criticized
It isnt a lore thing it's just that the game came out a few years ago so they didn't think to make it like that at the time
True
I'm sure the next game is gonna have tanky feels too
the more I play tda the less I enjoy using the chainshot tbh
doesn't really fit with how aggressive I like to play
Your criticism is basically "No, you can't review a game you haven't played" which I understand but I still can based on what I seen and watched
Doom feel into the Sonic paradox of "okay so what fans do we please now" bc there's more than one gameplay foundation, you have the Eternal and Dark Ages one and maybe 2016, so what do you pick? Which fans do you please?
Use it to break armor on vagary as you close the distance and then go in to SSG/Pulverizer clown on him
It fits really well into aggressive playthroughs if you use it to mog armored targets
I use the RL for thr Vagary as the Splash usually hits its back
Also why wouldnt you wanna hit someone in the head with a bowling ball
Such a great concept
the vagary is probably the only guy I ever pull the chainshot out for
and it's 110% valid criticism. you can't review a game you've never played. you can give opinions and thoughts based on observations, but any sort of "review" holds zero weight whatsoever
A Reality imploding Bowling ball
I want it to play a strike sound effect every time i kill an enemy with it
Gameplay is intrinsically tied to playing the game (clues in the name), each gameplay experience is different depending on the player, it isn't a movie, you have to experience it to judge the gameplay
Then I guess I misused the word "review" here
metal pipe sfx chainshot sound mod when?
TF2 Pan on Dreadmace
TF2 crit sound effect
gimme the taco bell sound whenever I hit an enemy with the mace lmao
Also why was the prince aura farming in the Seige cutscene who does he think he is, chill bro nobody taking a flick
I haven't used the chainshot in casual gameplay since launch. There's this really weird delay after the firing animation concludes where you can't melee or swap weapons and it feels super icky. Worst feeling weapon in the franchise atm imho
He gotta impress The Huzz (The Witch)
The aura coming from this game is surreal (except for the one obvious character who has NO aura)
Kreed got NO aura except for his fight music
Again, I know you have to experience the thing so you'd be able to review it and know how it feels. But that doesn't stop me from giving my two cents or rather my opinion on how the game plays based on videos from it. There's a reason these videos are there to begin with and it's for you to see the gameplay from another person so you'd get an idea on how the game plays. I know I don't have the full grasp of it because I obviously didn't play it but I have the general idea of it
FM Cooked
FM Needs to keep cooking
Cant wait to see them come back for DLC (YEs they are doing the DLC)
Kreed is too busy eating to worry about the plot
Mancubus is the Better fatass
I don't think anyone ever doubted that lol
Fat....
Kreed has bugs under his skin, he needs to get them out
He's the fatest enemy I've ever seen
well you see, uh erm uh
Mancubus vs Kreed who wins a hot dog eating contest
So did i hear something about a HUB for DLC?
I lowk think kreed is supposed to be easy lmao
yes
Mancubus (He got the hotdog costume)
yes, confirmed during the last dev stream
How does it work?
does having a hub imply more levels than expected?
He's a fun fight but I gotta say he has no aura cuz he's a chicken and a coward
one can hope
I am legally obligated to hate on him
In games like Doom you need characters like Kreed to contrast with the more noble characters
someone asked for 12 levels in a DLC, maybe id took that seroiusly ...
Yep
please let it be so
2016 had Samuel crying every time the Slayer disobeyed his requests
Its a FULL new campaign
In a nutshell
it was confirmed, making content for TDA is faster, so there is that. thanks to ray tracing
22 more levels 🔥🔥🔥
Yup
D!Zone had 500 levels, so come one id
but but
ray tracing bad
it won't run on muh 8 year old graphics card
Why doesn't Kreed eat the Slayer isn't he fat

I think it implies a different mission/progression structure than expected. Hugo mentioned that the HUB serves a purpose, so I imagine we'll be returning there between levels to unlock upgrades similar to Eternal.
This is just a personal theory, but perhaps it could mean the DLC will have a more fluid mission structure where you can use the Kreed's ship to navigate to a specific region of Hell and tackle missions in whatever order you please
Mega Man mission choices!
Now that's interesting
hugo plz
you gotta give us a heat map of demon activity that we can click on
so if that is true, we must fight chill penguin demon lord first. got to get Dash
and then as we complete the levels you can see the activity decreasing 
that would be interesting actually
Neat
Guys, we gotta take everything hugo says with a kilogram of salt, remember when he said the dark lord was gonna be the greatest boss they have ever made?
Because then his insides would be nonexistent
Well look how that turned out 
Dragon phase 
well theres an excuse for that one i suppose 
that is puffery
Yea why did Cthulhu do it instead of Kreed? Cthulhu isn't fat !
He's the old one not the hungry one
I had almost erased that from my memory, thank you
Same reason, insides go boom
The new hub in the DLC is probably gonna be just a re-skin of the doom fortress
Yea but Kreed didn't even try
I mean I dunno, "We're adding a HUB that has a specific purpose" isn't really something that needs to be taken with a grain of salt. It's pretty straight forward lol

Because he's a coward lol
new demons, i hope we get that comic mancubus as a new super heavy
and the Hell Barons
if they don't include an archie then it'd be a huge missed opportunity
if they already released concept art for demons for the base game i doubt they r gonna make those as dlc demons
Super mancubus, a massive fatso that's very fat, he can't even shoot or move, he's just kinda there being fat
If we get another doom game closer to the eternal timeframe I hope the Intern comes back
but yeah barons of hell in the TDA style would be so frickin sick
An archville in Dark Ages sounds like cbt
i think they are going to show the imps NEXT level of evolution, which according to the codex might be a archvile. We got the stalker last game
That one guy with glasses in the eternal dlc?
Yea
could be that they do that
cognitive behavioral therapy?

although i think i also read the summoner is also related to the imp too
I actually don't know what you mean by cbt in this context lmao
Agreed, bro was chill and more useful than the rest
He was the one guy who didn't fear the slayer and that was peak
yah i think the classic doom verion of the mini arcvhile is called a hellion
I imagine they would make the Archville very annoying to fight that's what I'm saying
In Eternal you kinda just memorize the spawn point and finish things early
are they?
wooohooooo
ah
well of course
but you gotta admit it'd be cool if they gave him back his line of sight attack
If you don't then it's honestly one of the most clunky fighting experiences in the game, especially if there's more than one
NOOO PLEASE NOOO
no no think about it, you could use it strategically
you could block the attack with your shield, but it'd take heavy damage, and you'd get a big height boost
More like, the most annoying fight
archvile jumping in tda would be so unbelievably peak
this ☝️
Okay that's not that bad
ye sorry but no fat cosmic mancubus shopping cart
Yep
I get a lot of comments about how concepts for unused demons are "definitely going to be used in the DLC" but that's just not really how that works. If they had plans to use it then artists wouldn't have been able to share it
It's just the fancy way of saying "We've scrapped this concept"
yup
was there any TDA baron of hell concept art?
I see people say the same thing about the mech factory from trailer 1
I feel like there was but I can't find it
most if not all those concepts were done early on, others that they might use for dlc they arent gonna show
Baron of hell would've been sick with TDA theme, not gonna lie
true
but the cosmic baron might be the coolest demon in any modern doom game
i thjnk the first ideation is best. middle one looks too much lke a tyrant
bruh imagine they had flames coming off of them
holy frame drops batman, but how cool would that be
Sometimes you gotta sacrifice some frames for cool points
but ill take all of them. Give me a hell knight variant as well
i wonder what the biggest things id tech 9 is gonna improve
i think a big thing would be vfx
Why did they scrap this (possibly) again?
well probably didn't fit with whatever they wanted to do with the game
although the way they introduced the cosmic baron was really sick
I was thinking that they just weren't going to include a really big aggressive melee bruiser in the game but then he just appears in the city of ry'uul and holy crap
they will always have like 10-20 concepts for one demon and only go on with one and i swear the human mind has something with appreciating the final design less no matter which one it would be cuz in game it doesnt always translate one to one with how it is in the concepts
the first one is 🔥
you'll always want what you can't have
like i look at every revenant concept and think holy shit imagine if we had that instead
but i had the same level of excitement when i saw the tda revenant for the first time too lol
yeah lol
the tda revenant was about as big of a home run you can possibly hit in the design department
anyone else getting cloud sync errors on steam or is it just me
Steam has maintenance every Tuesday iirc
oo
idk its just refusing to sync my save
ill just wait ig
Me when I get a super cool golden atlan skin and can only see it in ONE of the THREE atlan chapters
try restart steam
yh this isnt that, that one is later
oh well
There's a lore reason for this btw
Reason: Giant Golden Robots are very expensive and hurt the Sentinel defense budget
Novik's royal atlan is probably made of more expensive material
Yea but then they'd have to cover it in gold too and that's triple expensive
would have been cool if the gold skin at least showed up on the broken atlan novik pilots in the final battle
Yup
Speaking of
What would you guys have thought about tag teaming the titans in final battle with novik?
I really would've wanted to see my guy do something
Series X
doom slayer?
Never
Trust me when they see my animation they'll add an archvile
I think we can agree that if there was a pistol replacement for this game, it would absolutely be a sort of big revolver.
hi everyone, I'm wondering when the DLC for Doom the Dark Ages will be released.
No date yet
There’s going to be dlc??

yes
No comment
it'll have hell with snow
now that no one knows but probably sometime next year or close to next year
I can’t be the only one who’s stuck with the ripatorium menu in the campaign right
Next year
Many people have reported this issue
Oh thank god
Being able to change the level music in the campaign is neat but not being able to see the map or progress due to leaders being unkillable sure isn’t
How much FPS are you getting in TDA?
gee i wonder why
don't feed the troll
What
All that guy does is rage bait every day
judging by u responding to blocked message for me it's that one framegen 2016 guy
discord search: by user: reapavon framegen eternal
and be shocked by results number

I'm not sure why he's allowed in here
should we ask a mod?
I'm no tattletale lol
i mean the only time he was actually insulting we called him out on that and he's only saying "when framegen for eternal....." after that lol
yes it is
yes
I mean if they contribute literally only ragebait to a discussion
And I have seen ragebaiters banned before,
I don't see why they wouldn't get banned
Or not banned just muted or warned
Idk up to them
I don't think I'm gonna be able to see the stream this thursday
Busy week

no worries, we'll give you all the details bro
Thank you man
yea true
The Goat (Hato) does a Stream Recap Every Thursday!
Ye I just want my name tagged tho bc after he makes his recap there's gonna a be like 500+ messages, or y'know he can resend it
But it doesn't mean I won't watch the stream afterwards
Resurrection is an awesome level
Will it be there?
There's a stream every thursday unless stated orherwise
so yeah, stream this week as far as we're aware
Pray for Hugo
I can DM it directly too you too!
Yes pls, and all the references too
Will do!
wonder if hugo will elaborate on limbo during the stream
I hope so
kinda hope he doesn't ngl, I like having a new realm with practically no lore
Well if he says smt it might contradict smt else
He's one of the reasons misinfo gets spread around even tho he doesn't mean it
When it comes to lore
I know 100% it's not malicious it's just that they're still trying to connect things
Like for example, he says the slayer went to hell cuz he killed demons
?????
So ye
So maybe it's best that he says nothing
although I do want to know about limbo's development since some of the concepts are pretty wild compared to the final level. Some of the original stuff has elements from the sanctum https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892238793174818848/1425259195162296340/nathan-elmer-nathanelmer-worldtree.png?ex=68e6ef90&is=68e59e10&hm=9e4b499f4ffbc9b508e24fb47182cbda69e8f833a187faba0135fb7601e60cc1
This is a whole damn level
What we went though was one section
This looks real cool tho
World tree huh
Oh wait I'm an idiot
It's all part of the same thing
Ye I would've really loved to see the view on the top right
Or like any of them lol
It makes for such great visuals
holy peak
what tf is that
l
Bro
god damn it looks awesome
but such an open area would fit only for a cutscene lol
or it'd be kinda like serious sam level lol
oooh the forest before resurrection
@unkempt dragon is there any way for you or anyone else on the mod team to add ArtStation to the verified list of websites? so we can send TDA concept art pages and not just individual images
Ye
i'd like to see more of it tbh
but it's unlikely cuz doomguy would have to die again lol!
Hmm ye
I would've loved to see the hivemind
Or there can be another thing that looks like it
I like esoteric colossal horror
I just want more horror in general
oooh that thing
If the cosmic realm was waaay darker and red it could be a D3 level
and i feel dying again in the dlc could be seen as repetitive
HE KILLS HIMSELF
dayum
what
Ye the one on the bottom right is what we got
But he did do that
Bottom Right/top left
Silly
We didn't get the top left
just to escape the krakgers
damn ghosts would be scary af
And it looks awesome
I mean the pool of blood and the symbol, just not the creature
we did, just without the floating spine tree
Limbo?
Well technically it resides there but like all we see is the bottom right
And it's the most "lame" interpretation
Why was the Mark of the Beast There
to mark the beast
I don't know it looks kinda huge
The scaling is all off
I think that's more symbolic, not necessarily something that's actually there for everyone who enters limbo
Oh you mean that
they had an entire level and a big ass creature for limbo but we got only long trees 😭
i didnt even think about looking up
i tried to get away from the trail but ||got invisible wall||
same
They could've had an easter egg in that section
would be fun if u go off the trail you collapse and die lmao
yea i tried to look for some
un players are cooked 💔
doom 2016 ahh
I like the trees more personally. It's a creepy endless tree realm that's never explained and I hope it stays that way forever lol
Well don't explain it but where my white spaghetti kraken
if u put that way it's creepy indeed
endless tree world....
Like why trees
ONg
i feel having the big creature would make it more creepy
Ye some colossal thing
I like it being void of all life
I think all the trees eventually connect to one creature we cant see
there's where you put godzilla in doom people
naked trees are creepy
wakes up my ptsd from passchendale in bf1......
like a Colossus Unleashed?
But that thing is just one giant tree
Doesn't look like it moves at all
Hur hur hur reference
Godzilla when
Gimme now
The komodo was clearly foreshadowing
the vagary is clearly kumonga smh
imagine if when a shieldsaw hits into some demon and when u call it back it brings the demon with it
sending it flying towards you
🧐
meathookn't
like ultrakills whiplash?
And if you parry it, turns into a projectile
The corpse
oh god this is just ultrakill
literally ultrakill lol
Am I rediscovering fire
parrying a cyberdemon and it immediately shrinks down to a green hellsurge projectile
ultrakills chainsaw shotgun in a nutshell
No no no that's not what I meant
punch the cylinder thing with the saw attached to it to punch it forward to make the enemy bleed
idk maybe didn't play ultrakill
how dare you not play ultrakill 
(just kidding i dont mean that literally its just to make fun of the ultrakill fanbase)
Is this what you youglings call a "Ragebait"
i play doom 😎
i play both
you gotta get better at this baiting thing lmao
400 fps at 1440p on eternal, but 120 fps on low settings on TDA
makes total sense 
hes done this before
1 blocked message 🧐
I meant like it brings smaller enemies to you if
dazed and you can parry their corpse which hits other demons and it's totally awesome
I know lmao
dunno about pc specs im a console player
over and over and over again lol
Allright
soom game 
that's a lotta blocked messages
"DOOM: The Shit Ages" def sounds like ragebait
I can't escape the ultrakill brainrot
Aw man no one saw my cool preposition
hm good question. @pine terrace
also wrong chat for asking about Eternal and 2016
ultrakills gameplay is so painful, bright and chaotic it becomes entertaining and fun
he does it for ragebait
Also sorry the late reply friend
Dont sweat it
Hey no problem at all! we all get busy man
no shit lol
Hi Kevan
Uh
Ping ghost about it in the staff chat, he handles the whitelist
Ok lol
OH MY GOD DISCORD CAN YOU WORK FOR FIVE SECONDS PLEASE
Lmao
lmao
happens
Your Important to me
Yipeee
Hope bait is peam
That's just hugo streams
ragebait vs hopebait
it sounds familiar
@warm ibex Msg'd Ghost. Will get back to you on it asap
thank you very much 🙏
Thank you LM and Kevan
goats 🐐
🐐
gotchu
wrong chat, go elswhere
just realized that apparently shooting a demon with the shredder and releasing pincushion can falter heavy demons
i didnt know that
yes
SneakyJaycool I never got the message
@violet lynx Irrelevant question, they'll do it if they feel like it. Wouldn't count on it. And this is The Dark Ages chat.
I wanna see all da references
it's the one benefit of pincushion over ricochet besides single target dps
i only got to know about TDA's combat depth recently
at release i didnt care about the gameplay i was just egtting entertained from how powerful i felt
Which one, about the Thursday Stream?
No the wikipedia page
(im a dumbass sometimes)
Lol
I think what it is is every demon within the radius of pincushion, except for the demon getting pincushioned
that's not your question. you come in here daily and ask when 2016 and Eternal are getting frame gen
and also, if you shieldsaw a demon in place, begin shooting it with shredder, recall the shield the pincushion activates
just another way to use it
"I don't care how good pincushion is, I'm not using the Shredder"
You do realize that the previous games are from 2016 and 2020 right? They don't owe you or anybody anything bc the new game has different features.
THE CYCLER RAHH
I Cant WAIT for that Prime 1 Statue
previous games are from 2016 and 2000
We need more figs or statues with the Chainshot
i dont care about under the mayo im not using full auto
seeing that Prime 1 statue's accessories reminded me... I would love to have a mini Pulverizer replica similar to the SSG included in the Limited Run switch collector's edition
Edited it 2 seconds later but thank you
full auto without salvo extender is so shit man 
correct
Ppl call the shredder useless compared to the csg in Khalim but I'd take an extra source of ammo any day of the week
full auto is ass without the mastery
Yes please
the shredder is infinitely better than whatever smidge of armor the csg gets you 
Also very helpful on max sliders
csg doesnt even feel like it gives much armor
Where resources are super low
if i wanted health id just press R3 on the purple dudes
You're supposed to mix it with your other mid options
Duuuuhhhhh
I hope you game is bugged forever to be at 500% damage to slayer, that can never be fixed
shredder is good in early game but after i upgrade the chainshot i dont want to play with it anymoer
That's easy
Well it's easy now
wdym Easy now...
Sneaky I passed ancestral forest
well I already play at 300
also I use the flail for style points anyway so checkmate 
I think it can produce somewhat decent armor if you set it up right, but it's still not major. Gotta go with the fodder-focused upgrades
Have you passed aratum
Holy shit big W
shredder is still carrying me in my max sliders run
Ayo
peak, huge dubs
Ye super useful
I also use the chainshot
Which I never used since launch
ricochet is nice for clearing out those fuckass nightmare imps
chainshot is my favourite normal gun in the modern trilogy
no....
Had to take a break doing the Ripatorium
i love its max capability
your hatred for nightmare imps amuses me
you let the ragebait demons successfully bait you
exploding fodders can also daze enemies
Ye now that I think abt it max sliders really makes you use a lot of weapons
"normal gun" describing the Chainshot as if it doesnt implode reality around it
it does
I would probably like the chainshot if I actually understood what its damage decls did
because as of now I have no idea how much damage it does lmao
THEY SUCK MAN
I both love and hate the run
it can oneshot an arachnotron at max charge
a lot 
they suck bruh
I hate the run bc of how much bugs are introduced
the nightmare imps are the bane of my existance
I had to restart my game abt 30 times
at max charge it instakills stalkers and staggers hell knights, so it's probably around the 10k range
other than that I dunno
Was rippin and tearin too hard
im currently still at forsaken plains on my max sliders playthrough
Wait horde if You got 2 Imp Stalker statues and never put the Imp on one of them, would you technically have a Nightmare Imp Stalker Statue?
fucking checkpoint hates every cell of my body
I got a horrible one in siege
the checkpoint system in seige-forsaken plains is just straightup torture
I spawned across the map where the secret key is,the final fight was across the map
Absolute TORTURE
damn
sybau
can u like get banned lmao

if any mod looks at ur logs u would be auto banned
Mods, rip off this mans flesh and turn it into a tank
I'm afaid to play resurrection
ok dude
If there's any bad checkpoints I'm doomed
i saw that
alright a little bit too much sorry for that
i saw that bruh
Aaaaaaannnnnnddddd what
WOAH
Whyyyyyyyy man
okeeeee duddd
apologies, pretend as if you saw nothing
Chiiiiiilll

dw ive been replaying it and its nice
Ya Samir
brother shut up
Oh
Thats what you get
the checkpoints are just jump off this ledge
Ok that's not bad
I honestly don't have a problem with them 💀 but I also play at default sliders
and get back to the arena instead of self torture by getting spawned a realm away
Hato Cast this man to the pits of Twitter
when their projectiles are faster they will eat you
forsaken plains is even worse lol
even on default nightmare they still deal 100 frickin damage
and ignore death protection
that checks out lmao
NOOOOOOO
that one belly of the beast secret encounter checkpoint tho 
THE MUSIC DRIVES ME
I LOSE CONTROL
any open map's checkpoints are gonna be ass
maybe I'm just baller at parrying 
rumor is u wont get to play it
its in production
Too ass
It grinds my being
bro it ain't about parrying, it's about seeing
and at default speed I can see the green just fine
I hate playing when I spend most my time walking and sightseeing
the nightmare imps do NOT rage bait me
i remember the seige part 2 checkpoint with the yellow circle ass leader, the cyberdemon, the arachnotron at the ledge of the higher box where you have to climb 3 walls and then theres the imp stalker that like 1 shots you, ive died at that part so many times i practically know the true pain of the imp stalkers nightmare ones
i love nightmare imps
I'm also at default speed, and in isolation they aren't bad
it's just when a few of them are just scattered around a battlefield, they blend in with everything and you don't realize you're about to get bitch slapped until it's too late
i also kind of fell for the ragebait of the acolytes in the ressurection level
that's valid but I also target them first and remember spawns
what's so bad about the acolytes in resurrection
at the time i didnt know you can just stun em with the shield saw and lock them in place so i had to play around like a bitch to get around em
they exist
Acolytes are just cosmic archviles
i fell for their ragebait
Or uh cosmic summoners
do they summon things?
their clone
They're very similar to summoners
ahhh
In terms of movement and attacks
acolytes arent even that bad until theres 2 of them in an arena and no arena has 2
and i have 2 in my ripatorium setup for the memes
and i like it actually
But now I want the real deal
i will tell you at the time i didnt know you can just l1 shieldsaw stun em
The bald martian
1 leader 1 normal
The tan fan
randomizer sometimes spawns 2-3 acolytes and that's where fun (torture) begins
No
one singular acolyte is kinda a joke, unless you've got a baron or two bullying your ass
No no I put on heaven splitter
the only thing more similar to doom eternal is doom eternal
All my problems go away
then you don't have the wherewithal to pay attention to the purple rain
I just shock everything
Why do you Torture yourself?
Target the acolyte
the shield rune with the knives is insane
Purple rain
it like 3 taps the leaders at ressurection
like Prince?
its too op i get entertained from how much damage they deal
prince reference 

because eternals formula has already been perfected
nah but the whole setup isnt that bad tbh, relatively ok compared to what some of yall have sent here
It's less op the more hitscan demons you hsve
expanding upon it will only result in the same game again
you literally cannot push eternal any further into the ADHD direction lmao
Next Doom game will be its own thing, different from the modern trilogy. No two Doom games will be similar going forward. Anyone still obsessing over Eternal 2 might want to forget about the rest of the franchise and play Eternal for the rest of their days
its more impressive to make a game that even gets close to rivalling doom eternal by being completely different instead of just expanding upon it
What does the VC mean in HatoVC
i would think you would do CV
Hato (is) Very Cool
lol if you want that just go play ultrakill
honestly i had no idea what to put cuz Hato was taken so i just put my initials
I thought it meant voice chat
My dum ahh
Lmao
should prob change it
Nah keep it
even i dont like it
do what you think is best!
at least your name isn't horde mode gaming 😭
Its Peak
horde mode gaming is a legendary name
Exaactly
it's cool
that's not your legal name anyway right
right??
hell even my username Hato i have no clue where it came from, just sounded cool in my head at one point i was like eh fak it
Mine was Similar in that sense
at least it's not a writing on a dog's hat
turns out theres some DJ content creator that is named Hato
I choose what i wanted in my name and Xbox Combined them with their name Generator thing
it's just a dog 😭

👀
TBF i dont think there is a peaker name to date i could make
His real name is...
this is the origin of my name lowkey lol
Fredrick hassleburger the third
HatoJaycool
what about 11
Your think of something peak
all i can come up with is absolute cringe
lmao
cuz the dark ages is less optimized, requires ray tracing, is in a newer engine, has way more textures and poligon count, uhh
Time to use the gif I like
falling for the bait
darn it
the guy has a spreadsheet of prewritten ragebait ready to write here at any moment btw
Hato just use my gif
he just waits for like 4-5 ppl to be having a normal convo so he makes sure he gets attention
"Trolling or Baiting
No trolling or baiting is allowed. The act of trolling is defined as something that is created for the intent to provoke conflict, shock others, or to elicit a strong negative or emotional reaction."
surely if we had a mod here for the past weeks he would be adios by now
John
just ignore
which we did
My gif is so perfect
eternal did take like 2 years for it to get the level of optimization it is at rn
alr i'll stop
DOOM the peak ages
yes
Dlc music is the most I'm excited for
I'm very excited for that as well
its all baller
Hato is baller
ballee
ballee
DUCK YOU
he's the one that balls the ballers
What
RAAAAAGGHH
If y'all didn't know all ready
they shouldve tweeted about it cuz e33 is getting alot of talk about that
i remember that doom eternals actual gameplay was made very late in development
k blocked atp
How good is e33's ost
Beats me, E33 also Has phenomal music
I was laying it off cuz I'm on side DOOM
Plus I will own the TDA OST
Buuuuttt I might have to be open
Oh. Yes.
if i remember, when it was showcased hugo mentioned that it was just a reskin of 2016 with a doubledash and a meathook, he realized it was too boring to play so then it got delayed to introduce the whole gameplay super late in
Same, love DOOM, also Brian (Both of them) Alex and Jay are just super cool and chill
e33 has a really good ost but i fear that most ppl talking about the ost are too biased with the game itself so they are gonna glaze anything about the game
also, idk if its just me but i cant really think of more than just a few memorable songs from that game
I agree with this statement
Also most ppl just remember the ost on launch month
damn so they added weakpoints and allat shi
For TDA it was the whole Mick thing
weakpoints, weapon variety incentive, under the mayos attention, etc
Well ye that
Also that was THE big one
The music at launch was good just mixing was F-ed up
And it's sooo much better now
People need to come back
sure, give the other award that they are nominated for, i forgot what it was called smth about "the best video game song" or smth to the main menu theme cuz it is kinda really fkin good but overall i dont think its objectively that crazy of a soundtrack as people make it out to be
But the other reason is why they won't
at the showcase, no weak points were there, ammo count was much higher and gameplay felt easier/slower
Both E33 and TDA have absolutely deviously insane Main Menu music
yh but i dont think they should be judged by that, but by the ost that was released on streaming platforms
yh but tda isnt nominated for that other category
TDA has the Best Main Menu music in Trilogy (imo)
or considered should i say
Ye but the ost is sooo much better from the mixers
Cuz well they could put more stems in one song
yh but it doesnt matter, whats being judged is the official ost
i agree
Also It's critics judging in the end
Fm prob knows how much we love the chunky bass segments
hellwalker is 2nd for me
Pls be in the official ost
Critics like the OST
Also I've been putting on my earbuds wrong for months
I changed how I put them in and I can hear the songs much clearer now
i think objectively the doom ost has better production, no hate on the composer for e33 tho he did amazing especially being randomly picked up from fiverr or smth he is really fkin good
Maybe it's the lossless quality update on spotify
but theres so much random goofy stuff in the ost that i can only listen to in the game
Whatever it's called
But ye would love to hear these in an official capacity
They're like the potatoes of this ost
if u go to the e33 ost on spotify chances are ur gonna click on some goofy out of context song that makes no sense and seems just random
So groovy
u HAVE to play the game to even get the context of the tracks
just go look lol
Hm okay
Give me a couple songs that clash
So like 2
A really good one and one that needs context
Under the Mayo's opinion of the OST was really funny
"it's metal" and said it like it's a bad thing
Like bro, this is DOOM
He's been pretty vocal abt not liking metal that much
yeah he doesnt like metal much
Generally
Micks work was Metal, Like hell on earth and Nekravol were METAL
Like I don't get it
Blood Swamps
Lumiere and Gestral Village Golgra
its as bad as i can come up with rn but u get the point, u can also just click through some of them
tell me which one u think is which 
micks work wasnt nessescarily metal thers some other tracks that dont involve metal like the hell priest chanting or the exultia dean takahashi gameplay section calm music
yeah i cant remember the section sorry
I still maintain 2016's ost was better than eternal's
Certain songs yes cough rip and tear cough
I'll tell you tomm
i just think thats his way of saying he prefers mick gordon/argent metal over heavy metal
i would call micks music argent metal and call fmi's music argent dnur metal(pun intended)
I like 2016's the least
Hot take I know
some ppl got used to mick and they didnt like metal to begin with
i like the music from all the games but my fav has to be eternal(im not really saying this in a way to praise it mindlessly i just seem to like eternals tracks the most)
2016 and eternal are very close imo, maybe eternal is a tiny bit higher, but then dark ages comes a decent bit over eternal
from best to worst for me it's probably
2016, TDA, tag1, eternal, tag2
for me at least
although tag1 and tda could be swapped around either way
my music tier list is
Eternal
TDA
2016
Tag1
Tag2
also how come i like the dark ages ost but i dont like 98% of metal
idk
most metal sounds so repetitive and just annoying to me but dark ages is amazing
i just find it sad to see ppl not enjoy it even if they dont enjoy metal
im not a huge fan of metal but i like it in DOOM for some reason i cant exactly process how
exactly lol
Also it's cinematic
its just pure cinema
Also behind every Guitar is a Chello
yeah ive seen the battle of the blackened tide vid or whatever
That has become my favorite track
my favourite tracks are
Theomachy
What lies below
Steel beyond the grave
Into the void
pretty similar here ngl
what lies below is my nr 1
My favorite Tracks are:
Battle on the Blackened Tide
Infernal Chasm
Atlan Battleground
Into The Void
And When the Shadows First Lengthened
But that's like a free space
id say mine are
what lies below
pursuit of demons
into the void
theomachy
apotheosis
i wanna put from the ashes there but idk where, to me its just on a "iconic" tier
while those others are absolute bangers
Theomachy and Apotheosis are my Runner ups lmao
From the Ashes and Unchained Predator are on my "Iconic" with WTSFL
Fuck it I'm making a tierlist for each track
Than for the Modern Trilogy
"like Each Track from the Modern Trilogy"
might do that also
gives me an excuse to listen to more doom music
Exactly, you get it
i might do a tier list for the modern trilogy too actually
Cinema
Ok but does the music add more frames?

i had one for dark ages but ill update it slightly
Particularly towards Eternal or 2016?
My tier list is
Eternal, TDA, 2016
For all the games(including classics &3) its
#1: Eternal
#2: TDA
#3: Doom 2
#4: Doom 2016
#5: Doom 1
#6: Doom 64
#7: Doom 3
Music or Just in General?
i mean in general
doom 2 that high, dang
I'm honestly torn on it
the enemy variety and the super shotgun add so much life into the game but the map design was just so poor
i dont think the level design is nessescarily that bad but the game is very fun in general
i would put it that high if i let myself become biased from nostalgia
by no means not a fun game tho
ill have to go through 1 and 2 again, did last year but should do it again sometime soon
first 2 episodes of doom 1 are great, didn't really care for E3
i mean i wasnt even around since the 90s or anything, im not biased to nostalgia, personally i think doom 2 is really fun
should just do a marathon where i go through all the mainline doom games
i tried it just like 1 or 2 years ago
whatever E4 is called (I forget) was fun
me neither its just my dad introduced me to doom 1 and 2 when i was in kindergarten so its like my first games ever xd
i was introduced to doom 2 when i was like 8 years old, my father brought me a trip to his office and introduced me to his friend who basically just introduced me to doom as a whole
although doom 1 kinda suffers from the "too much shotgun" syndrome where you're just using the basic shotgun to kill literally everything
doom 2 definitely improves on that a lot
i never asked my dad for it even though i loved the concept, i remember fantasizing killing demons from hell
i was annoying the fk out of my dad wanting to play doom every time i came home from school lmao
I can’t wait for the DLC! It’s gonna be awesome, all the mechanics that will be interesting and hopefully fun to mess around with!
hpoefully there will be a new melee weapon
i feel like there might be
it should be a great sword or some kind of sword
What if they brought back the demonic crucible
new gun and melee would be peak
Imagine another weapon that is just a sword that takes away the shield but u can parry with the sword or press another button that lets u infuse the hell surge attacks into the weapon making it powerful asf, absolute cinema
DLC and Ripatorium 2.0 at the same time (ripatorium adds the new DLC stuff Weapons, Abilities etc)
another instakill super weapon
Ok but like what if they don't make it instakill and just make it deal a lot of damage
But y'know what I think the axe would be fine too
Though if it was already cut from the game I dunno if it has a good chance of coming back
Thats why it has an even higher chance
I like the axe idea more but crucible would be fine as a legit melee weapon
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there we go
Send me da links boi
of the teir maker
that vega core placement has me seething ngl
Neither is better than the other
its about prefrences and which you like more
I prefer TDA
and as i Stated neither do anything better than the other, they just do things Differently
yes i do
I've only Preferred TDA after Update 2
thats my opinion and fact
dmd u both!
Smoothness of Combat, without GK just feels nicer imo, other than that, literraly nothing
that track in particular is just obnoxious noises most of the times ngl, not for me
They're just different
i went and listened to it again rn and my brain hurt
Ears are just not built for it I guess 
Smh my head
I mean the Classics Never had Gk
2 of 7 had gk
Plus Chainsaw is the Shield since its called the Shield Saw
but i understand those points, but thats why its different
never removed them, just changed them
This is More Opinion than fact, as For Reviews its TDA and Eternal for best games
I think 2016 and TDA are my top two doom games
my Ranking is:
- Eternal/TDA (cant choose)
- DOOM
- DOOM 2016
- DOOM 2
- DOOM 64
- DOOM3
when TDA post content ends it'll end up being TDA by quite a bit
damn me to the deepest pits of hell
bet
we can slay demons together their

critic wise and rating wise (based on openCritic) TDA is like the highest/best DOOM Game
I liked not having to stare at the same chainsaw animations on imps and soldiers and zombies every 20 seconds
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