the-dark-ages

[obsidian shard]

MASTER CAMPAIGN

[frail bloom]

Ye it was hilarious

[midnight cedar]

From what I can tell Hugo and Josh mostly snoop around

[frail bloom]

Never expected it

[obsidian shard]

Ye

[midnight cedar]

Hugo will sometimes hop into a stream and maybe talk to the streamer but that’s about it

Which is still pretty cool ngl

[obsidian shard]

Also you Can talk to them when they Stream (Slayers Club Live)

[midnight cedar]

Yeah but that’s pretty difficult accounting the sea of comments coming in all at once

[obsidian shard]

Nuh uh, i talk to dem all da time

[harsh egret]

one day we'll get some ama with hugo on discord

[obsidian shard]

And Josh

[harsh egret]

and josh ofc

how could i forget

[obsidian shard]

The Ultimate Team

[midnight cedar]

The only thing I would really want to ask Hugo is to maybe add in randomized parryable projectiles

[midnight cedar]

Oh that’s awesome

[obsidian shard]

Mainly during the Stream, talking about DOOM: Arena Board Game, and OST, and Master Campaign ofc

or as Hugo said "Yes"

[midnight cedar]

Still weird that we got confirmation

Saw that on Reddit and almost jumped

Leaks are something but confirmation from Hugo is a completely different story

[obsidian shard]

It was Leaked before hand so my guess is that they can talk about it

[obsidian shard]

true true

[harsh egret]

are we talking about master campaign being confirmed or wut

[obsidian shard]

Yes

[midnight cedar]

Oh yeah I also wanted to ask

[harsh egret]

ngl i got more convinced that it was a confirmation from josh's reaction than hugo's "yes"

[midnight cedar]

Do you guys think there will be any master levels for the dlc levels?

[frail bloom]

Either way it's happening

[obsidian shard]

idk

[harsh egret]

the way he said it sounds like when i dont listen and just say "sure"

[frail bloom]

We just gotta be patient

[midnight cedar]

Hugo was hyper focused but Josh was fully in the moment so I get that

[obsidian shard]

So this week for news we have:
DOOM Arena Board Game
id Merch collection

[harsh egret]

hyped for my wallet to hate me

[obsidian shard]

ong

Im Very curious about the cost of the Board games and expansions

[solid nacelle]

I'm waiting for the officially licensed acolyte toilet paper that hugo promised

[obsidian shard]

Im just glad to be paid the next day

[obsidian shard]

Is this deadass???

[midnight cedar]

The ripatorium genuinely taught me how to fucking hate the acolyte

[solid nacelle]

When he was doing the botb secret encounter he joked that he was gonna put them on tp

[obsidian shard]

For me it was the Cacodemon Hybrid

[harsh egret]

probably not getting that unless its still in stock in january

do we know what thats coming out

when

[obsidian shard]

Good News, it's a Kickstarter

So if you pay enough you'll just get it

(most oftenly)

[harsh egret]

how much

[midnight cedar]

I tried one of Murican Eagles presets and the acolyte was straight up the reason for 80% of my deaths

[obsidian shard]

We won't know till at Least October 1st.

merch has been bland lately (no new merch)

Fallout get 5 million pieces of merch a day

Why can't DOOM

[harsh egret]

tbf doom did get a bunch before fallout started getting stuff now

and i think we r getting more 3rd party stuff than fallout (could be wrong)

[obsidian shard]

McFarlane toys

Exists...

[harsh egret]

primeone statue incoming

[obsidian shard]

(i bought it all for TDA so I get to yap)

[harsh egret]

who is getting it?

i know im not

[obsidian shard]

Yup, Possibly Announced October 1st

[midnight cedar]

Where do you guys get all this money to buy merch

[harsh egret]

fucking insane price but if i had that i would buy it instantly

[midnight cedar]

I don’t get it

[harsh egret]

cuz its worth it for the price

[obsidian shard]

I have a Job

[harsh egret]

he said the j word

[obsidian shard]

2-3 months of saving for me

[midnight cedar]

Please censor the word j#b

[harsh egret]

u think i have the money for that, in reality im just irresponsible with my money

[obsidian shard]

I don't have to pay bills either so that helps

[midnight cedar]

I may have found my brother

[harsh egret]

i get student loan and thats it, i could buy it in january (doubt it will be on stock by then) but then do i wanna spend like 2k on that or like, alot of other things

[obsidian shard]

I mean the Eternal Ones are still "In-Stock"

(wait-list)

[harsh egret]

yeh, it would prob be best for me to wait til i get a job myself

im already spending a decent amount as it is

[obsidian shard]

Also in Canada Unemployment is almost 10%

[harsh egret]

on merch

[obsidian shard]

Yup

[harsh egret]

did u get the keycaps

[obsidian shard]

And now CANADA POST IS BACK ON STRIKE

[harsh egret]

ye lmao

[obsidian shard]

Nope, I get tons of merch but def not all of it

Im kinda picky bought merch

[harsh egret]

if the caco one wouldve been like 30-35 i wouldve bought it ngl

75 tho, hell na

[obsidian shard]

Almost didn't get the Mini Slayer TDA statue due to the price

[harsh egret]

yeah i didnt get that one

[obsidian shard]

Eventually I got 30$ off on Bethesda gear store so I bought it

[harsh egret]

also nor did i get the helmet but MAYBE in january

[obsidian shard]

Still on sale so it's like 120$ with a discount code

The OST is like the only exception I made to the rule

(I caved and bought the CD, 2LP and 4LP)

[harsh egret]

why both the 2lp and the 4lp

[obsidian shard]

cheaper on Bethesda Gear so I bought it from there

[obsidian shard]

I collect Vinyl Records anyways so as a Collector of Both Vinyl and DOOM, kinda gave me an excuse

[harsh egret]

ah fair enough

ye this is the first vinyl records i ever bought

[obsidian shard]

Damn

I never got the 4lp of 2016

But did get the 2lp

I have the Helldiver's II OST and TF2 OST on Vinyl

Plus others

TDA is when my Merch collection started growing (Could never afford Eternal mech)

Also 2016 has Next to nothing for merch

Just funkos (ugh)

[harsh egret]

yeah before college i couldnt rly afford much random stuff that i just wanted, but now ive started to get more

[harsh egret]

yh actually saw some guy list both the cyberdemon and the slayer funkos for 50 bucks

[obsidian shard]

DAMN

[harsh egret]

was somewhat considering it

got no clue if thats the price for one or both together cuz the post doesnt say

imma ask

[obsidian shard]

Ohh ok, I know they go for like 20$ a piece

A local store is selling a Patriot Marine for 25$

[harsh egret]

kay good to know

[obsidian shard]

If you want I can see if they still have it

And we can deal up smth

[queen girder]

They needa add challenges to the ripatorium mode.

[obsidian shard]

I mean Ripatorium 2.0 will have People made Setups we can use, instead of making one EVERY SINGLE TIME

[harsh egret]

The shipping to europe will be 20 times that of the figurine

[obsidian shard]

oof

i mean hasnt been too bad

You wouldnt pay Tariffs

[harsh egret]

Isnt it like 50 or smth, no clue really i just didnt even look into it lately cuz i remember it being bad

[obsidian shard]

Also depends on what country in Europe

ALSO DEPENDS ON WHEN CANADA POST GETS OFF STRIKE

[harsh egret]

Ok Bethesda store at least, from the US is 22 (economy international shipping)

[obsidian shard]

i get money off

75$ and up is free

[harsh egret]

Holy balls

I added the slayer helmet to see the shipping cost

[obsidian shard]

i am a "Gear Maniac"

[harsh egret]

210 dollars

Yh no it adds up a lot the more i add to an order

[obsidian shard]

Canada Post being on Stike doesnt help since Bethesda will go through other Shippers which makes it wayyyy more expensive

[harsh egret]

That sucks

[obsidian shard]

ye

BIG pain in the ass

3rd stike within the last year too

World Economy is cooked Rn

[dark thunder]

where dlc im fienin

[obsidian shard]

Next year

Let em cook

[unkempt dragon]

fr. the absolute impatience and demands in this channel daily

[warm ibex]

It's getting to an insane point dude

I've never seen people so desperate for updates to an offline one and done single player game lol

[unkempt dragon]

Game hasn't even been out for half a year, and since 3 weeks in people have been absolutely demanding the DLC

But if it were rushed they would complain about that too. Just because they played the game faster than others doesn't mean id owes them asap.

[warm ibex]

It's a lose lose until it comes out and everyone forgets they spent the past few months complaining about it

They aren't a massive studio and never promised any major post launch support prior to launch, I think what they've done so far is more than satisfactory

[unkempt dragon]

Yeah I'm honestly proud to even be in the outer circle with these talented folks. They work so hard.

[uneven mortar]

The level of demanding for DLC is genuinely so weird, i feel like I'm locked in a room with a bunch of 9 year olds who don't understand how games are made

[undone girder]

Yea I can wait for the DLC

As someone who just finished TDA there is so much to experience just in this game alone

[unkempt dragon]

so accurate

[undone girder]

Plus I got all the other ones

I ain't starved

It's best if id is given all the time they need to cook

[unkempt dragon]

I personally love spending time with a game, and exploring it fully and then re-playing for awhile.

I re-played some 2016 for the millionth time today. Still loved it.

[undone girder]

I mean I waited 5 years for TDA to come out in general and I'm perfectly fine lmao

Plenty of other Doom to consume in that period

[uneven mortar]

I'm interested to see if lower-budget games come out inspired by TDA's combat like eternal

[undone girder]

I plan on replaying 2016 and then Eternal...AGAIN 🤣

Eternal is my fave in the series but tbh Dark Ages takes 2nd place now

Says a lot bc the previous 2nd place holder was Doom 2

[unkempt dragon]

yeah they're all special in their own right, absolutely

[merry sapphire]

hope the dlc is more than 6 levels long

[undone girder]

Probably will be cuz the base game is 22 levels

And it's one DLC

I can imagine it being 10 to 12 levels

[warm ibex]

I could see seven or eight, maybe a mech level too. Seems fairly realistic

[undone girder]

Probably 10

[merry sapphire]

maybe six or seven

[unkempt dragon]

I'm not gonna lie to you all...I haven't finished the base game yet. Work has been priority this summer. But I plan to within the next month. Only about halfway through.

[undone girder]

Also hello Horde 🤣 Didn't realize that was you

[merry sapphire]

holy shit Horde Mode Gaming

[warm ibex]

dude absolutely take your time, games always feel the best when you don't rush through it

[merry sapphire]

Take Your Time man As Long as you are Having Fun

[undone girder]

What they said

[unkempt dragon]

🫶

thanks y'all. Appreciate you

[warm ibex]

No way is that Shivero Mode Gaming

[unkempt dragon]

Horde you're that guy!!🎉

[undone girder]

Gemidori Mode Gaming /no

[merry sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/golden-freddy-five-nights-at-freddy's-fnaf-ultimate-custom-night-ucn-gif-9084129085048418884

hot take: i have no problems with id software becoming a doom factory lowkey

[undone girder]

I mean same here bc that's what drew me to them

I did like their other projects though, what I've played

I played the first 2 Quakes which were awesome, as were Heretic and Hexen

[warm ibex]

I think they're at their very best when doing something new (Eternal and TDA being spectacular examples) and that definitely applies to franchises as well

[merry sapphire]

i mean if santa monica can be a god of war factory why cant id software become a doom factory u feel me

[undone girder]

I feel like TDA borrows plenty from Hexen actually

Not just Quake lol

[merry sapphire]

i have to finish up quake games fr

heretic and hexen remastered dropping is cool as hell too i have to finish that too

[undone girder]

Yea it's awesome those games got ports

They needed them tbh

[unkempt dragon]

Those Classics are where my heart lies

[warm ibex]

The original Quake is my favorite pre-2000's FPS, I would absolutely recommend finishing it

incredible art and sound direction with killer gameplay

[undone girder]

Quite

[merry sapphire]

mine is blood cause oh man that game is GOOD

[undone girder]

An evolution of Doom's own direction while being its own thing

[warm ibex]

I still haven't finished blood, but liked what I played for sure!

[undone girder]

Plus, Trent Reznor 🤣

I haven't played Blood but I'm sure it kicks ass

[merry sapphire]

it really does, and the remaster is so well made

[warm ibex]

hard to go wrong when trent reznor is behind the music/sounds lol

[undone girder]

AND the voicework 🤣

[merry sapphire]

though my fav classic doom game is crazy enough, doom 64

[undone girder]

Doom 64 is underrated as hell

I love its quieter darker approach

[warm ibex]

fucking preach dude

[merry sapphire]

i really did not expect id like doom 64 as much as i did, even though i usually dont like the dark atmospheres in classic games and i like a cool soundtrack

but somehow doom 64 is the most memorable and fun to play classic doom game for me

[undone girder]

I unfortunately did not fully know it existed till the modern port

[merry sapphire]

loved the level design

[undone girder]

I'm glad I got it tho

Initially I just thought it was the PS1 port lmao

[merry sapphire]

ps1 port of doom 1 looks so ass im not gonna lie

doom 64 is probably what they were trying to go for

[undone girder]

Yea

They tried to mod Doom 1 and 2 to look spooky lol

[unkempt dragon]

It's been really cool seeing the evolution of Doom since the beginning. I started right in 1993. Can't even explain the witness time lapse lol.

[undone girder]

I'm glad they got their own game to use all those assets tbh

[unkempt dragon]

That to TDA has been incredible

[merry sapphire]

thats actually so interesting

[undone girder]

I've known the OGs since I saw AVGN's videos on them. So like 2009-10ish cuz I was born in 2000

Amazing to know I've sunken into the rabbit hole without even knowing xD

[unkempt dragon]

at the time, it was so realistic and gory. And when Quake came out, that new engine was a HUGE deal. I remember swimming in Quake and the feeling of excitement and new was unmatched.

[undone girder]

Partly thanks to Decino ngl

Pumpkin man made sure my ass got attached to THE ENTIRE franchise

The other part was Eternal

[unkempt dragon]

crazy sentence lmao

[warm ibex]

it's still crazy to me that Quake has been out for nearly 30 years and they still haven't done much with swimming combat

[undone girder]

Yea! TDA still has none 😭

[warm ibex]

not that any of the modern doom games need it, but it would be kinda cool to shoot demon fish in TDA lol

[undone girder]

The shark from UAC Atlantica but you can shoot him

[warm ibex]

he's a nice guy though! as long as you don't get too close

[undone girder]

He's just grouchy

[warm ibex]

aren't we all lol

[undone girder]

Fair lol

If someone got that up close in my personal space I'd have to take action lol

[unkempt dragon]

Yeah we need more of that. If I were to demand anything in the future, it'd be a remake of Quake 1 and expand upon what you said

[warm ibex]

I'm so down for a new Q1 styled Quake man

[undone girder]

That would be peak

[unkempt dragon]

Imagine it but like TDA graphics

[warm ibex]

I'd say that's at the top of my wishlist period

nothing else competes

[undone girder]

Would be really cool to see a mix of the first two Quakes

Gameplay of 1, story depth of 2, combined with the gameplay and visuals of TDA

With Ranger of course

[unkempt dragon]

Ahhhhhh fire!

[undone girder]

If I remember correctly Ranger was never used again after Q1?

Perfect opportunity to show where he went afterwards

[warm ibex]

Q3 and Champions, with both being canon to his story

[undone girder]

Ahhh ok, was wondering if those were canon

[warm ibex]

not like they couldn't just pull him out of the arena eternal tho

id software lore is always changing so wouldn't be a huge deal

[undone girder]

I like to think Q3 is Doomguy's canon ending, somehow

He finds peace in just sparring with buddies far in the future now that Hell is gone

[warm ibex]

Speaking of Doomguy in Q3, have you heard the unused voicelines from the Playstation version of the game?

[undone girder]

THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN BEAT ME.

IS ME.

[warm ibex]

Wouldn't say it's my top pick for a doomguy voice but I still like them a lot lol. cheesy and weird in a really good way

[undone girder]

I love how ominous it is but I think Eternal has my favorite voice for him

Has the low growl that Q3 was missing

"You have no idea what's coming. Please...you must listen to me. They are coming...coming for you all. They will leave nothing left."

My other top fave is...

"EAT SHIT, HELLSPAWN!"

[midnight cedar]

I know a lot of people hate it but I kind of love it

Simply because he sounds high/out of it half the time

[topaz oasis]

what's the worst enemy combo for you guys?

for me is unanimously agaddons + revenants

and they love putting those 2 together lol

the aggadon + arachnosniper in belly of the beast is also pretty cancer

[midnight cedar]

We talking campaign only or ripatorium too?

In the campaign it’s gotta be battle knight + Komodo

[cursive grotto]

Agaddons are actually really fun to fight for me

[covert goblet]

The regular ones, yeah definitely.
The champions feel a bit more annoying.

[cursive grotto]

Yeah the champion agaddons have alot of hp

But i think the champion cyberdemons feel perfect

The regular cyberdemon is really fun to combo but dies too fast

The champions have just enough HP imo

[covert goblet]

Oh, those champions can be such a pain.

I remember doing a pandemonium run when prepping for ultra nightmare. Those champions caused me so much trouble.

[half marlin]

cyberdemon + baron

and after that one secret encounter cyberdemon+komodo but it's less cbt

[upbeat junco]

good to know that popping a plasma shield next to an agaddon will still falter him despite him being in his bubble

[crisp trench]

Knb refrence?

[green estuary]

cyberdemon + any arena that doesn't let you break line-of-sight with them lmao

[next thistle]

Anything with a Whiplash /no thx man

[obsidian shard]

Only around 200 Devs to be precise!

[quaint plank]

wondering if anyone had this bug with siege part one (or any level for that matter) where it says you already have some of the resources collected or other shit despite not playing the level yet on that save

[stray anvil]

Damn horny 💦 gay

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doomguy-doom-the-dark-ages-gif-16146911997239692348

[upbeat junco]

had it happen with Forsaken Plains

do you have any mods

[quaint plank]

Nope

Maybe its due to multiple saves?

I deleted my uv save for nightmare and that could be it

Unsure though

[upbeat junco]

ok good to know that the mods i run dont break it

[quaint plank]

What mods are you running btw?

[upbeat junco]

kaibz and proteh's streamlined campaign

was thinking it could be proteh's campaign thing cause it usually displays some levels twice like hellbreaker or command station

[quaint plank]

I see i see

[solar cairn]

Guys, every day we are getting closer to the release of dlc

[solid beacon]

Ultra nightmare+ ripatorium 2.0 would be harder to adcive.

[vital plume]

just bought premium edition even tho i wont be able to play it for a few months.

what gpu should i have for it? (i dont care if its not the best graphics in the world and i cant run it on a 960 for certain.)

[grave dock]

Hell yeah!

[coral vine]

Anybody got the scoop? When is it coming?

[grave dock]

No clue tbh, don't know if they announced any release date yet

[coral vine]

Oof, bummer. Could use some good news)

[mental grotto]

DLC tomorrow

Trust

[coral vine]

Thank you, mate, appreciate it)

[frail bloom]

Would be cool if we had an intern like character in the dlc

The intern was really witty when he debued

And got a model upgrade in tag

Cuz let's be honest he looked horrible before

I want raytraced

[frail bloom]

That's a crazy good idea

Have we ever had high octane swimming combat in any game franchise???

I think ID can tackle this

Ye that would be an awesome innovation

That's more than enough to justify a quakegame

Because you have a whole new mode to explore new mechanics

[solid nacelle]

That's what I thought we were gonna get when they showed the shark in the ancient gods trailer

Silly idea

[frail bloom]

I never thought that

Lol we fighting doom sharks out here

But think abt it

[solid nacelle]

I was a younger lad back then

[frail bloom]

What franchise has innovated in swimming combat that's fast paced????

[frail bloom]

I was like 12

[solid nacelle]

I think I was 17

[frail bloom]

I'm turning 17 next month

Yipee kay yay

Imma talk abt the chaingunner now

Design is lazy

I think they should remake the chaingunner

And call it the commander

(This is for potentially dlc or a new installment)

[obsidian shard]

Peam

Im Older than u lil chud muffin

[frail bloom]

Ye you're prob like 80 smt

[solid nacelle]

Chud muffin is wild

[frail bloom]

You fossil fuel

[obsidian shard]

close

Im 18

[frail bloom]

And I thought I was ancient

Look at this sagging homosapien

For the Chaingunner commander:
Design: ye no reskin just make him the classic version
Gameplay:
•accuracy decreases with distance,
•instead of the shield he has dash boots
•a baton that disables your shield upon hitting you.

[obsidian shard]

oof

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/grandma's-fake-teeth-flew-out-when-blowing-a-candle-viralhog-grandma-blew-out-a-candle-and-her-dental-implants-flew-out-gif-2177443156331695156

(10×2)-2 is 18

So this is 101% accurate

👍

[solid nacelle]

[obsidian shard]

Literraly a Month ago lil one

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1274237827592228865/1419766866418597961/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp.gif

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-cute-dog-shaking-dog-puppy-cute-puppy-gif-25485866

[frail bloom]

Alr skippy

[obsidian shard]

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-stares-at-camera-gif-14086547631675677876

FreakyJaycool mugshot

[solid nacelle]

Good thing no one knows I'm 22

[frail bloom]

Holy shmoly

You're beyond existence

[solid nacelle]

They'll have to call me bajookie unc

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/virus-bacteria-viral-bacterial-animation-gif-16833192

This is Bajookie

[solid nacelle]

Anyway those chaingunners

[frail bloom]

Yes those chaingunners

They're lame and lazy

Booooooo

My idea is better

[warm ibex]

euuuughuuu shield bash into them and ssg shield toss and uhh they're dead pretty much

[solid nacelle]

I wish they'd made them into pseudo heavies like the imp stalker

[frail bloom]

No they're easy but they're just meh enemies

Their design is lazy imo

And I don't think their accuracy should be infinite

[warm ibex]

same. I can't say I was fond of them in TAG2 and I definitely can't say I care for them all that much in TDA either

[frail bloom]

Ye good idea

Have y'all seen that fan made concept art for eternal

For the chaingunner

It should be like that but medieval

You can even have the goo launcher

Since this game actually has goo projectiles

Ok I don't have the concept art with me for some reason

But Mayo made a vid on it

[solid nacelle]

Goo launching chaingunners would be so funny

[obsidian shard]

Your being shot

[frail bloom]

No I'm not

[obsidian shard]

Purple goo

[frail bloom]

Green goo

It's green now

[obsidian shard]

ACID GOO

[frail bloom]

Ye

[obsidian shard]

NOOO

TPA

[frail bloom]

We don't have purple goo I'm sorry

[obsidian shard]

The Peak Ages

[frail bloom]

It's green acid now

[obsidian shard]

Also I have a Ingenious idea for next game!

[frail bloom]

Go ahead

[obsidian shard]

Sit and Watch

[frail bloom]

Oh so it's all cutscenes

[obsidian shard]

Its peak

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/zaunvi-caitvitwt-gif-1251875630135871970

Oh yeah

And the mancubus with the green acid

I forgor his name, mortar right

He should've been green

For identification

[obsidian shard]

Theres 4 Mancubi

Normal
Mortar
Leader
Armoured

[frail bloom]

Ye mortar should have a diff color

[obsidian shard]

Green

[frail bloom]

Make armored one's red

And the leaders are pale already

[warm ibex]

don't forget the fifth and most important Mancubus

Bluecubus https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892238793174818848/1422311834639405199/image.png?ex=68dc369e&is=68dae51e&hm=421e83e129db702b7e00eeada8945bddc6b9434127a0376bba1b0bd7f796d34c

[hardy socket]

Yo does anyone have any tips for improving performance on steam deck?

[frail bloom]

Where my redcubus

You killed him

You tyrant

[mental grotto]

Dusk and Ultrakill come to mind

[frail bloom]

Really? What did they do, what could be improved or added upon those

[mental grotto]

It’s nothing really groundbreaking, just a few minor changes that make the water levels not suck

[frail bloom]

Well I was envisioning full in depth combat

That makes swimming fun

I don't think anyones tackled an underwater shooter yet

Or partly underwater

Perfect for a Quake reboot

It introduced swimming in first person shooters might as well innovate on it

Would be poetic

[mental grotto]

In Ultrakill it’s basically just normal combat with low gravity, and blood lingers in the water so you can heal off of it for longer. Then Dusk unlocks the Y axis so you can spin omnidirectionally. Very trippy, but kinda fun

[frail bloom]

I imagine a whole new combat system

[mental grotto]

I will not be playing the underwater shooter 💯

[frail bloom]

Kinda like the mech and dragon sections, but 30,000 times better

[mental grotto]

But it’s a new idea for sure

Good to think outside the box

[frail bloom]

It's not supposed to be dominantly underwater, but if you go swimming it's gonna be the best swimming you've ever done

[mental grotto]

Ahhh I see

[frail bloom]

It's just supposed to innovate in the swimming formula

Like Quake

Plus, it's a good excuse to make a quakegame

[plain bloom]

hellloooo doom sever

i just bough doom 2016 and ive never played a doom game someone help lol

[frail bloom]

Hm

Always keep moving, bump the difficulty up or down if you're really stuck or breezing through, always explore

[plain bloom]

thats what ive been trying to do

[green estuary]

Just keep moving and aim for the head lmao

[plain bloom]

i find that i keep getting stuck

[green estuary]

What difficulty are you on

[frail bloom]

Ye

[plain bloom]

just normal right now

[frail bloom]

Name

[plain bloom]

i usally like playing in hard modes but its so hard with this game hahaha

[frail bloom]

Hurt me plenty?

Is that the mode

[plain bloom]

yep

[frail bloom]

Hmm

What's causing your deaths

[plain bloom]

i just get trampled with enemys at once

[green estuary]

Well, the first thing I’d say before seeing you play is to get more distance between you and the demons first and foremost

[plain bloom]

also im a bad aimer

[frail bloom]

Always circle around

[plain bloom]

ok ok

[green estuary]

Well, can’t really fix that until you practice

[frail bloom]

Enemies get herded and their aim sucks

Unless they predict your movement

They're wishy washy

They either suck or snipe you

[plain bloom]

the snipingggg

[frail bloom]

Always watch out for soldier energy balls and imp homing fireballs

Just kill them before they do anything

[plain bloom]

ok ok

[green estuary]

Yeah you just gotta keep on the move and when in doubt, don’t get too close to melee enemies

[frail bloom]

And if you're far enough, use the explosive shot

On the shotgun

Oh, and don't go near any explosive anything

Barrels, rockets, explosive shots

[cerulean pagoda]

hi guys

[frail bloom]

This game doesn't protect you the same way later installments do

Hello

[plain bloom]

alright let me see if i can record my gameplay

[frail bloom]

What I mean is, don't go in an enemies face

Their melee hurts

[round isle]

Hello chat

[frail bloom]

Hello

[round isle]

Finally found an active chat

[frail bloom]

Active?

I mean, sorta

[obsidian shard]

Trust

[round isle]

The other ones here aren’t doing much

[frail bloom]

Sometimes it goes hrs without activity, sometimes it's just fine

[round isle]

Oh ok

[frail bloom]

Yeah it depends I can't predict these things

It's probably gonna sleep for like 10 min

[tawdry crypt]

tda's soundtrack honestly kinda hits

[cerulean pagoda]

it does

[frail bloom]

Yup

Do y'all know the animator, Slick

[cerulean pagoda]

yeah i know that guy

the guy with the shin godzilla profile picture

his animations are pretty cool

[frail bloom]

No he has the gmk profile

He makes stuff like this

[cerulean pagoda]

oh nvm im braindead

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/godzilla-godzilla-in-hell-godzilla-comic-slick-gif-11737888125848149628

[cerulean pagoda]

animations with kaijus and stuff right?

[frail bloom]

Ofc he's way better now

[cerulean pagoda]

yeah i got that right ive also seen his doomguy vs godzilla vid

[frail bloom]

Ye he's made a new vid with a bunch of dark ages music in it

[cerulean pagoda]

pretty awesome ngl

[frail bloom]

He even responded and agreed that the ost gets way too much hate

So honestly

W

[cerulean pagoda]

ive seen that ngl

[frail bloom]

Seen what

[cerulean pagoda]

the animation with the music in

its pretty peak

[frail bloom]

Oh the titan war

Yeah he's getting better and better

It's scary good

[cerulean pagoda]

yeah i remember watching him a while ago before making this account

those vids are pretty entertaining

[meager vortex]

DOOM SLAYER:GUTS HUGE GUTS KILL THEM ALL!!!

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-gif-18370552922777914358

[meager vortex]

if gozilla meet doom slayer his guts will be removed

we knew tda chapter18

[frail bloom]

Alr, imma start my max slider run

[frail bloom]

I'm in pain

[frail bloom]

I'm still on Khalim

[obsidian shard]

Womp

Its peak

[frail bloom]

BRUH

IT KILLED ME WHEN I FINISHED THE LAST ENCOUNTER

WHYYY ME

[frail bloom]

Have you finish the game with these settings

[obsidian shard]

Nope, just got to Aratum

Havent gotten farther than Aratum YET

[frail bloom]

Sheesh

I'm done for

Guess what

When I switch weapons, it doesn't block instantly

The godamn issue isn't fixed

[strong moth]

Hmm I’ve not noticed that. I’m on my UN run right now and the problem has been fixed for me. That sucks brah

[frail bloom]

I finished Khalim!!

[frail bloom]

Tbf I'm on max sliders

So smt is wacky

Took me like an hr to finish Khalim

If anyone says they found max sliders easy, they're lying

Just not possible to consider it easy

Honestly my run is harder than raitros

I have no extra lives and no slo mo

Alongside the other stuff

I will say

The only upside is getting to hear the music more

[obsidian shard]

Agreed

Considering Unchained Predator only plays ONCE

[meager vortex]

?????

[meager vortex]

hebeth waiting on you

[plain plover]

The run tests are so neat. Im looking at all the extras 😁Im not tech savvy but my CPU looks like it struggled 😅 i completed the game though!!

[green estuary]

well we already knew that

[idle elk]

I found max sliders easy

[cursive grotto]

Hey fellas

Does anyone want to see a 10 second leader cyberdemon deletion

[hard thistle]

Yeah

That sounds slow to be honest

Maybe not cause it's a leader

That's why leaders are good targets for bfg shots

And komodos

Also the harvester ability on the shield is so awesome In combos it's so meta once you learn how to find good opportunities to try to charge it on cool down and use it in combos. The game just feels so good right now.

It just does half a mancubus' hp

The encore and harvester upgrades just unlock so much extra depth and speed to the game

And riposte on the dreadmace

And I feel like every gun has such a high skill ceiling and I've found uses for all of them in a 100% run

Like whoever came up with those 3 abilities really wanted the game to be peak

[cursive grotto]

It charges so easily and quickly too

Just shield throw like 4 fodders and you have a charged bash that does huge damage

[hard thistle]

Yeah bro

[cursive grotto]

I wanted to use it in my leader cyberdemon combo but i forgot to charge it lol

https://youtu.be/MT-03iVWopo?si=vgp8LaFBu917PO4s

[hard thistle]

When you combo it with the chainshot, and the power gauntlet that's my speed run meta for killing strong enemies that need to be killed to unlock the next progression

Low key

[cursive grotto]

So far the only weapon i actually haven't tried out at all is the grenade launcher

But everyone says that it's peak

So i'll probs give it a shot soon

[hard thistle]

That thing definitely has its place in the meta

When it's maxed out only though

It needs the cataclysm

[cursive grotto]

I feel like every single weapon in this game is really fun and good honestly

[hard thistle]

It works really well to master as the final weapon on 100% for me

[cursive grotto]

I find myself swapping builds or guns just to try out new things

[violet vigil]

Is there a multiplayer in this game?

[cursive grotto]

Nope

[hard thistle]

That's my signature route I've realized end with the grenade launcher it farms the challenge in the final arena against all the enforcer pinkies

[cursive grotto]

My 2 favorite builds rn are gauntlet + ground fissure + ssg and heaven splitter + dreadmace + pulverizer

Last night i learned that the pulverizer stays charged as long as the skull is glowing and that made me love it all the hell

[violet vigil]

I'm thinking of buying doom eternal, is the multiplayer alive there or nah

[hard thistle]

Auto turret plus accelerator with stabilizer and mega cell

I recommend that

[hard thistle]

Yeah that's pretty good

[cursive grotto]

I've never played battlemode so i have no idea. But honestly doom eternal is worth it tenfold for the main campaign + horde mode + master levels alone

[hard thistle]

And the ancient gods

[cursive grotto]

Riposte is an insane upgrade for the mace dude i swear

[hard thistle]

Oh yeah

[cursive grotto]

You can legit kill almost everything in the game with 2 dreadmace hits

[violet vigil]

alright, i guess ill buy it

[cursive grotto]

I think the few guys who don't die to 2 dreadmaces are like leaders, komodos and vagaries

[hard thistle]

Yeah that kills a baron at full hp no execution needed

[cursive grotto]

Everything else dies to it iirc

[hard thistle]

Some leaders just die to one dreadmace like the acolyte

Keep that in mind it's useful as shit

[cursive grotto]

Fuck the acolyte

Such an annoying enemy to fight

[hard thistle]

Yeah

I have such a bad clip of dying to the lone first one on un

[cursive grotto]

Yeah i'm just going to make half of the map unwalkable with these damaging toxic pool things

And also clone myself and keep teleporting cause i'm quirky like that

[hard thistle]

They're balanced around knowing when and where they spawn in the arena

[cursive grotto]

Also

[hard thistle]

Because you can combo them to death instantly as their spawning

[cursive grotto]

Potential hot take, but i like the BFC more than the BFG

[hard thistle]

The Caco is like that too

Me too

That things so badass

[cursive grotto]

And you actually have to aim it now

Whereas in eternal you just shoot it into narnia and it'd still destroy the whole room

Like 2 seconds of airtime is all the BFG needed in eternal to destroy heavies

[hard thistle]

It's too bad the flail doesn't have as high of a skill ceiling as the gauntlet and dreadmace. I think it's kinda buns how it just gets conditioning. What a useless ability. Passive melee recharge is buns. People only use melee ammo ups and parries to get more melee ammo. They should rework that upgrade into something actually competitive with reaper and finisher, two really good really cheap upgrades. Conditioning just costs more than finisher too.

That's like the only upgrade right now where I actually wanna call it useless

[midnight cedar]

I wouldn’t say the flail is completely useless

But it definitely needs a minor damage buff

Not enough to make it stronger than the gauntlets

But something to make it viable in combos

[hard thistle]

I agree

I think that conditioning is a good place to make a change

Cause like who even notices that upgrade

[heady mica]

I love flying toward enemies I hate to see and punch the shit out of them with the gauntlet

Personal level of hatred to Cacohybrids

[green estuary]

They’re definitely not

[hard thistle]

You're right that's just the way to shut them down

[topaz oasis]

are we shitting on acolytes now?

I completely support this notion

[frosty roost]

I hate acolytes with a passion

[woeful pulsar]

Just said it in another channel, and I'll say it again, those wimps just ran when my crosshair was on it for 2 seconds, and threw skulls at me

I hate acolytes more than archviles

[frosty roost]

what're the archviles again? also can I get the achievements while just running each mission separately or does it have to be through the whole campaign?

[wintry nexus]

Me too

[topaz oasis]

archies are the tall fuckers in eternal that also teleport, summon more enemies and buff all the enemies on the arena

[woeful pulsar]

Archviles were in eternal, the summoners with fire powers

[woeful pulsar]

Yeah, or the tall fuckers,you can call em that too

[frosty roost]

ohhh those tall fuckers, yeah I hate them

[wintry nexus]

How many times r we gonna say tall fuckers 😭

[woeful pulsar]

As many times an archvile has made my save file hell by more summons

Literally.

[wintry nexus]

Fair enough

[topaz oasis]

they're basically "I force you to memorize my spawn locations throughout the entire game or I completely screw your UN run over" the enemy

[woeful pulsar]

Luckily I don't think there is one in dark ages

Actually, scratch that, the old one titan fight killed me many times

[topaz oasis]

in dark ages you have the leader acolytes who are arguably worse

the summoners in 2016 were horrible too

[woeful pulsar]

I immediately used my Mace on that fucker when I saw it, followed by shield saw stun and super shotgun

[topaz oasis]

no teleporting enemy is ever fun to fight or feels fair

[woeful pulsar]

I just used a rocket launcher on em

[topaz oasis]

they should put that enemy trope where it belongs 🗑️

[woeful pulsar]

I hated how many times the old one teleported when i was gonna combo it

In the atlan fight

I haven't played UN in dark ages but I'm thinking it would be easier if I did max damage to enemies and minimum damage to player in the settings

[topaz oasis]

but that would be cheating, why would you ever select UN difficulty if you're just gonna change the sliders

[woeful pulsar]

I'm trying to get the skin, im not that into having a challenge

I like slaying demons with no worry of losing my save file

[topaz oasis]

that's alright then

but yeah, archies, acolytes and summoners all of them are cancer

[woeful pulsar]

On another topic, I hate how I'm listening to the ost for dark ages and comments are filled with "mick was better" "this is plain and bland, mick made it better", I get that mick was good and he made doom famous for it's music, but that doesn't mean the new ones are trash, I personally think the music perfectly fits the medieval theme

[topaz oasis]

music is definitely awesome in both eternal and dark ages

[woeful pulsar]

2016 is just out of the picture

I loved hellwalker and dooms gate in 2016

And obviously rip and tear, and bfg

[ionic glade]

Damnation is an underrated banger from 2016 OST

[woeful pulsar]

That was a banger while stuck in hell

[topaz oasis]

but I think I prefer the music in dark ages more, I like how the music in dark ages ramped up whenever a super-heavy came into the battlefield

[woeful pulsar]

I think music fits how the devs said "In this game you're a heavy tank" whereas in eternal the music is "like being a fighter jet"

[topaz oasis]

2016 was so forgettable for me I don't even remember what tracks were good in that one

[woeful pulsar]

Ouch, I get it, I forced a playthrough into 2016 so I could follow up on eternal, but it grew on me and I like it

[wheat sigil]

to simply experience perma death (could be the case)

[woeful pulsar]

I explained why in the next message 😐

[wheat sigil]

i know

[woeful pulsar]

Then....what was the point of guessing

[topaz oasis]

I dunno, I don't feel a single track from 2016 stuck out with me the same way the ost on mars core or belly of the beast did in eternal and dark ages

[wheat sigil]

what i meant is that, if someone changes the sliders on un, it can be because nm sliders are too challenging, but they wanna enjoy permadeath

[violet lynx]

i need hug

[topaz oasis]

but that's maybe because I wasnt really engaged with the gameplay

[woeful pulsar]

This is so stupid to say, but I mainly played eternal for "the only thing they fear is you", that's how good the music was, but every other track was forgettable for me, and the 2016 tracks were memorable since I played 2016 before eternal

[woeful pulsar]

Fair point

[topaz oasis]

I feel that kinda betrays the whole purpose of UN but that's ok honestly, since they're there, there's nothing wrong with using them

now speaking of UN

[woeful pulsar]

Again, doing it just for the skins

[topaz oasis]

I read you

[woeful pulsar]

Speaking of UN, if I finish the campaign of UN, will I get the other rewards for finishing pandemonium and all

Since un is higher

[topaz oasis]

huh, I don't think so

I didnt get any

[wheat sigil]

why? having un be an entire seperate difficulty is just dumb as it's literally the same difficulty as nightmare lol
should've been a setting for all difficulties..

[topaz oasis]

but then again, I don't know what are even the rewards for finishing pandemonium

[woeful pulsar]

I literally don't think I've used a life sigil in my playthrough of dark ages, I've kept them since village of Khalim and hebeth

So sigils only healing in un is fine for me

[topaz oasis]

It's the ultimate Doom Challenge, m8!

[wheat sigil]

it's the ultimate challenge if you don't care about somewhat getting close to the skill roof...

[topaz oasis]

anyways, now that I have beaten UN on dark ages I wanna try something more challenging and possibly more fun

[woeful pulsar]

More fun implies that UN was somewhat fun in the first place

[topaz oasis]

watchu mean

[topaz oasis]

it was stressful, but fun

a lot of fun, actually

[woeful pulsar]

Cant even imagine losing a save file cuz of the old one atlan fight

I was literally sweating while I was on 25 hp while old one was halfway through, I still clutched somehow

[topaz oasis]

in every fight past mission 6 you feel the adrenaline flowing through your body and your heart pouding like a hammer on UN

it's survival at its finest

[cursive grotto]

Ultra nightmare is a mental test, not a showing of your mechanical skill

[topaz oasis]

hot take, it can be both

[cursive grotto]

Imo not really

[woeful pulsar]

You can test mechanical skill at aspiring slayer difficulty too, by that logic

[topaz oasis]

implying UN forces you to cheese is completely player dependant thing

[cursive grotto]

The base campaign at nightmare difficulty in both dark ages and eternal is not even close to "maxing out" the skill ceiling you can reach in these games mechanically

It's more just staying calm under pressure and not losing your save

[wheat sigil]

exactly

if 10 is the peak of eternal skill, UN requires like a 3

not saying UN is easy, just saying skill roof is insanely high

[cursive grotto]

Where would you place super gore nest UN in that regard

Master level of course

[woeful pulsar]

I don't recall super gore nest being that hard

I mean, escape of the nest was kinda like you said, keeping cool under pressure

[wheat sigil]

slightly above base game UN

[wheat sigil]

we're talking about rhe master level version

[woeful pulsar]

I know, I've played it

[topaz oasis]

but what if you play master levels or DLC in eternal on UN or dark ages UN on mission select with higher difficulty settings than nightmare?

then your skills are truly put to the test?

[cursive grotto]

More than base nightmare yeah

It's hard to define what actually puts your skill to the test in these games though

Especially eternal

Mastery can just go that far

[wheat sigil]

what puts your skills to the test is whatever challenges you

[cursive grotto]

It has practically no limit

[woeful pulsar]

Speaking of dlc, what if doomguy got the crucible in dark ages dlc, that would be the first time he would aquire it, and set up how he left the blade in the titans chest from eternal. We've already seen throwbacks from eternal in dark ages like the betrayer being commander valen, and his hammer weapon

I could see the crucible sort of being another melee weapon with one hit, but you can slice through enemies and not combo them

[cursive grotto]

By that definition then the final fight in the mars core master level is the hardest thing for me in eternal unironically

Even harder than the entirety of the world spear and super gore nest

I might just be skill issued but it really takes alot out of me

[topaz oasis]

I just use the official difficulty settings and your willingness to go through additional challenges like not using BFG as my point of reference

[cursive grotto]

I instinctively avoid super weapons it's kind of baked into me

[vagrant path]

Anyone played with the enemy health sliders all the way up?

[cursive grotto]

I avoid the crucible and BFG in eternal and the BFC in dark ages

[topaz oasis]

if a player beats the game on UN while avoiding cheeses or crutches and doing all gore nests + wraithstones, that's a based player on my book

[cursive grotto]

Nothing against the weapons i think they're all badass i just want a bit more of a challenge

[vagrant path]

shit is crazy it literally take like 3 super shotgun shots to kill a hellknight lmao

[woeful pulsar]

It took me one super shotgun hit to kill a mancubus somehow

[cursive grotto]

Btw @wheat sigil do you wanna see a 10 second leader cyberdemon deletion

[wheat sigil]

ya

[topaz oasis]

that's my go to

[cursive grotto]

https://youtu.be/MT-03iVWopo?si=kjOMH8bLXmT5lWGS

[topaz oasis]

I cant play with normal health on my demons

they too thin

I need them to last for longer

[cursive grotto]

Riposte my goat

[woeful pulsar]

Wow

[woeful pulsar]

Bruv plays on geforce now, nice to know cloud gaming isn't dead

[topaz oasis]

@cursive grotto I have one like this too

hold on

it was a goated combo

[cursive grotto]

Yah

Dark ages is the only game i've played so far to actually challenge my pc

[topaz oasis]

@cursive grotto this is a double HP Tyrant btw https://imgur.com/a/Ii4IO4h

[cursive grotto]

Minimum 8 gb vram is crazy

[topaz oasis]

[cursive grotto]

Making my shit feel outdated

[cursive grotto]

A charged rocket at the start would've made this perfect

[wheat sigil]

the mace is crazy

[topaz oasis]

charged rocket?

[cursive grotto]

Parry charged rocket

[topaz oasis]

oh lol

[cursive grotto]

The thing that destroys everything

[topaz oasis]

I never tried that upgrade tbh

I always go for the splash damage one

[cursive grotto]

It puts a cyberdemon into daze

[topaz oasis]

is it good?

[cursive grotto]

1 charged rocket

[topaz oasis]

daaamn

sounds kinda op

[cursive grotto]

It does copius amounts of damage you have to try it

I literally swap to the rocket launcher when i see a parryable projectile just so i can fire a charged rocket

It's so good

[topaz oasis]

still, didnt need it tho, that tyrant got 1-cycled the heck out

[cursive grotto]

I find all melee weapons and honestly all weapons in this game good no matter what some people try to say

[south tundra]

hey guys,i'm planning to make a creepypasta titled "UAC Military Nightmare+" where it follows the story of a man named Johnson who is obsessed with watching Aquarius199's Crappy DooM WADs series and he gave UACMN another chance by playing a WAD called "UACMN+.wad" but there are some twist about the new version of UACMN.

[cursive grotto]

I've tried every melee, every rune and every gun and all of them feel good to use and are totally dependable

(except the grenade launcher, i still haven't tried it but people are saying that it's goated so i'll just include it too)

[topaz oasis]

grenade launcher is kinda ass imo

flail really struggles with super-heavies

except vagaries maybe

[cursive grotto]

I honestly really like the flail just because of the constant restacking

Feels nice to always be getting armor

And also it destroys armored enemies

I don't have to swap to the ssg or whatever

I like the dreadmace for quick superheavy deletion and overall insane crowd control in the room; it pairs amazingly with heaven splitter too

And the gauntlet i find the most fun to use out of all of them

The shock upgrade and 4th hit upgrades are so good

The 4th hit falters even superheavies so you can literally falter a superheavy three times in a row

Parry falter > 3rd hit kick falter > 4th hit falter

It does huge DPS thanks to recharging really quickly with parries

You can string like 6 or 7 hits against superheavies

[topaz oasis]

which super heavy endures more than 4 punches tho?

[cursive grotto]

Leaders or normal superheavies with the HP slider increased

[topaz oasis]

aight, fair

on normal health they all pretty much die to a single 4-piece combo

even the leaders

[cursive grotto]

Yeah the gauntlet is just that strong

I'm gona show you something hold on

[topaz oasis]

aight

[cursive grotto]

Pinged in videos

This is some actual slander

I will NOT stand for power gauntlet hate

Power gauntlet my goat ❤️

''Does basically no damage'' is just a flat out lie

Like that's just factually incorrect

[topaz oasis]

@cursive grotto OMG what is that dude talking about???????

it's some kind of joke or bait, right?

I refuse to believe someone in this world can be this wrong

[cursive grotto]

Nope

He's actually being serious

I love that channel but gah damn that's just so wrong on so many levels

Probably their worst take of all time

[topaz oasis]

omg

I cant believe someone can have worse takes than underthemayo

[frosty roost]

wait who?

[cursive grotto]

I actually like mayo's takes for the most part

Can you give me an example of something you disagree with

[topaz oasis]

anyways, imma play some ninja gayden, see ya folks

[cursive grotto]

That he says

[topaz oasis]

yeah no, Mayo is a big L

[topaz oasis]

all of his GoW takes is a perfect example

[cursive grotto]

Oh yeah didn't he make a video saying that new GoW ruined the franchise

[frosty roost]

@cursive grotto wtf is he talking about??? bro my poor ears, the gauntlet is so good wth

[clever folio]

hiii!

[cursive grotto]

I mean i still gotta hive him credit for liking full auto and microwave beam in eternal

That's peak based behavior

[cursive grotto]

''It does basically no damage'' 4 hit combo killing most enemies:

[topaz oasis]

yep, those videos are a prolonged circus performance

[cursive grotto]

I genuinely thought they were trolling when i first watched that section

It goes beyond just opinion and is full of factually incorrect statements too

[clever folio]

hii there?

[cursive grotto]

Hi daisy

[topaz oasis]

bye there 👋

[clever folio]

😠 hey!!

[hard thistle]

Me too and Vega core is one of the strongest

[hard thistle]

Cosmic Baron and komodo

And agadon hunter

[wheat sigil]

truth

[midnight cedar]

To be honest that really depends

If we’re talking gaming in general

It’s a pretty mixed bag

But when it comes to doom specifically

[cursive grotto]

I'm mostly talking about his doom takes

I haven't watched any of his other stuff

[midnight cedar]

I personally think he knows what he’s talking about

[midnight cedar]

Oh then we definitely agree

I agree with most if not all his takes on doom

By the way

I might be misremembering

But when Hugo first started his TDA streams

I think he mentioned something about an extra difficulty option

Where the parry timing would be like razor thin

Is that still something they’re considering or am I just making things up?

[cursive grotto]

It might be something they're saving for the DLC update

Like along with the dlc we get the new difficulty

Also

Unrelated, but am i the only one who really doesn't like the current skins of TDA

They look good but like

Why are 80% of them purchase exclusive

You had to order a pizza from a specific location for one so if you don't live in the US then cry about it

One of them was locked behind a TWO THOUSAND DOLLAR package for an rtx 5080

[midnight cedar]

I have to agree on that

[cursive grotto]

One is locked behind preorder and premium edition

So on and so on

[midnight cedar]

I’m fine with all of them being recolors and all (because of how cutscenes work or whatever)

And I do get that they will eventually be available to everyone

But I think it was a mistake in the first place

They should’ve all been unlockable via in game challenges or milestones

[cursive grotto]

Yeah exactly

ESPECIALLY because they're recolors

Like why do i gotta buy a 5080 for a yellow and red skin

[midnight cedar]

This one is especially bullshit but I guess nothing we can do about it

[cursive grotto]

Sounds silly as hell doesn't it

[midnight cedar]

Very much so

[cursive grotto]

Also speaking of the 5080

[midnight cedar]

I hope that even with the limitations they atleast make 2-3 skins that actually change the model

[cursive grotto]

This game makes my laptop feel outdated lmfao 😭

[midnight cedar]

I play on the ps5 so I can’t complain but much like space marine 2 whenever things get chaotic I get minor frame drops

[sterile dome]

whats up guys

[midnight cedar]

I’m surprised I don’t get more of them tbh

Yo

[sterile dome]

whats going on

[cursive grotto]

How does the game feel on console

I remember people complaining that eternal was way worse on console

[midnight cedar]

Nothing much we’re just talking about how skins are being handled and such

[midnight cedar]

To be honest not that bad

Of course it’s not as good as eternal

[sterile dome]

i havent played it sadly i wish i did tho

[midnight cedar]

But I consistently get 60fps and the game looks pretty good (besides minor issues like the weird film grain and slight blurriness from a distance)

[midnight cedar]

That’s fair man

[sterile dome]

i loved that game so much

[midnight cedar]

Maybe when it goes on sale give it a shot

I recommend it 👍

[sterile dome]

if it a recommandtion definlty got to

what yall got going on today

[midnight cedar]

If you would like there are a couple videos that go in depth of TDA’s mechanics that you could check out to see if it’s your cup of tea

[midnight cedar]

We mostly just talk about anything to do with TDA

Unless there’s a stream

[sterile dome]

heck yeah if you dont mind dm me them that seems fun

[midnight cedar]

Which everyone goes to see and hyper fixates on what Hugo says

[midnight cedar]

Just give me a second

[sterile dome]

youre good

[cursive grotto]

I see

Unrelated but i've searched for secrets so many times in my (so far) 4 ultra nightmare attempts that i've memorized the maps

Even siege part 1

I know the exact route to take for speed

It makes reattempting ultra nightmare more bearable

[midnight cedar]

I recommend trying to basically do all the secrets for every map up until midway through the game

Because by then I personally have all the upgrades I would want

[cursive grotto]

That's fair

[midnight cedar]

Unless you want to full on go 100% UN

[cursive grotto]

I tried out the pulverizer for like 3 chapters in my finished nightmare save after you said that it stays charged if the skull is yellow

And it's actually goated

My new favorite gun

[midnight cedar]

At this point I have 280+ hours on TDA but I’m still terrified tbh

[midnight cedar]

I’m telling you

Early game

The pulverizer absolutely fucks

it’s such a good gun

[cursive grotto]

I haven't tried out an unupgraded pulverizer properly yet

But the wider spread upgrade seems to be a big one

So idk how it does without that

[midnight cedar]

I would say it’s still great

I use the unupgraded version for all of sentinel barracks and some of Aratum

It’s that good early game

But after that you would need to upgrade it

Also please use it on the vagary champion

[cursive grotto]

Vagary?

[midnight cedar]

Yes

[cursive grotto]

I mean i know he's fat enough to eat all of the shards

[midnight cedar]

When you stun it and it goes on the ground

[cursive grotto]

But i prefer the accelerator against him

[midnight cedar]

Go for its ass and start unloading

[cursive grotto]

It shreds the vagary when you shoot the ass

[midnight cedar]

When it gets up go for it’s legs one by one and I swear that’s like 3/4ths it’s health

[midnight cedar]

I’ll try that out

[cursive grotto]

Also bro

You gotta watch the video i posted in #videos

Craziest shit you'll ever hear

[midnight cedar]

Just give me a second my internet is pretty shitty

Okay

Let me just unpack what I just heard

He said that the flail is not only better than the gauntlets

But also gave it a C?

I am terrified to know what he gave the other weapons

I don’t mean to be an asshole or anything

But this is worse than the time Gman said the combat shotgun is better than the ssg

[cursive grotto]

He unironically, fully seriously said that the gauntlet ''does basically no damage even with a full combo''

That's not even an opinion that's just a factual, mathematical lie

[midnight cedar]

Like a full gauntlet combo even without the fourth hit kills most if not all heavy demons

I’m not even sure the flail can kill a Hell knight

[cursive grotto]

Not sure but they have different uses tbf

The gauntlet is almost all damage while the flail is meant for armor restacking and enemy armor shredding

[obsidian shard]

Gauntlet with 4 Charges does almost the same damage as Dread Mace

[midnight cedar]

That is true

But when directly saying one is better than the other

[obsidian shard]

Flail can hit Multiple Targets, and Damages Armor and Gives the Player Armor

[midnight cedar]

That is true, the flail does kind of create a shockwave that staggers other demons

[cursive grotto]

Hot take but i don't think there's neccesarily a weapon that's clearly like better than the others in this game, especially compared to 2016 and eternal

[midnight cedar]

But I still think it’s egregious to say it’s better than the gauntlets

[cursive grotto]

You can depend on literally any build and win the game with it

[midnight cedar]

I agree with that most of the time

[cursive grotto]

They all do solid work, it just depends on personal preference and playstyle

My only real outlier for that is the grenade launcher

[midnight cedar]

But I would say unless they get buffed the flail, combat shotgun, and the auto turret are kind of inferior

[cursive grotto]

The rocket launcher just feels way better in every aspect i don't see a reason to use the grenade launcher

[obsidian shard]

Flail is Great for a Survivability Get up

[obsidian shard]

RL is great on the Vagary

[midnight cedar]

While the grenade launcher isn’t my favorite I still think it is very powerful in crowds

[cursive grotto]

Like sure you can stand on a cliff and rain down grenades on a cyberdemon while he can't do anything which is admittedly very funny, but you could also just..go upto him with the rocket launcher and wreck his shit

[midnight cedar]

True but would you drop that for either the gauntlets or the dread mace?

[cursive grotto]

Way faster too

[obsidian shard]

Just Depends on how I'm playing as TDA is more based upon weapon/Rune Combos!

[midnight cedar]

You make a good argument

Both of you