the-dark-ages

[frail bloom]

Cuz he's Hugo

[wheat sigil]

why not? decent armor

[half marlin]

i see more profit in using csg than wasting melee charges
maybe the next demon that'll spawn will be cyberdemon or baron and you dont have melee charges

[green estuary]

tbh it's more efficient to use it on fodder than anything else

because the damage it does to heavies and above is inconsequential, so you might as well use it solely for armor farming

[half marlin]

just use gauntlet for heavies

well it's easy for me to say since i use mod for melee weapons swap so alright

[green estuary]

yeah that kaibz mod feature can't really be classified as official

[half marlin]

should've been official tbh

[frail bloom]

Will be

In some capacity

We're getting melee and rune swapping

But no hot swapping guns, despite how fun it looks

Imma play dark ages now

Haven't in almost a month

Imma try Pandemonium

[solar cairn]

The runes are cool, but melee doesn’t seem very much

[frail bloom]

No idea what that means

[solar cairn]

Runes are diverse, both for damage and for the camp, and melee except gloves are useless

[frail bloom]

The dread mace is useless???

[green estuary]

interesting take there

[frail bloom]

No it's pretty useful against largeenemies

[solar cairn]

Too long recharge and it’s easy to hit the wrong one

[green estuary]

should I say it?

yeah I'll say it

[frail bloom]

So, it's reserved for big bad demons, plus, you're swapping

[green estuary]

skill issue

[frail bloom]

So it won't matter either way

Now flail...

Is a different story

[green estuary]

it isn't reserved for big demons
it's honestly served just as well by one-shotting heavy demons

[frail bloom]

They count as big demons

[green estuary]

oh

well yeah

the only melee weapon you should be using on non-heavies is the flail anyway

[frail bloom]

NOOOOO IT RESTARTED THE LEVEL

Is pandemonium like super bugged

My game crashed and it put me back to the start

[violet lynx]

yo does reshade work for anyone in eternel?

[solid nacelle]

I remember one time I did pandemonium on seige part 1 and it was one of those little puzzle chambers with the cultists at the end, and for whatever reason I flicked both levers but the doors wouldn't open so I had to restart

Lots of others come in and complain about pandemonium related mishaps

[frail bloom]

Ye so it' super bugged

[solid nacelle]

I think one I hear most is that certain extra lives won't spawn despite the player never having reached that spot in the run

[frail bloom]

It's alr I'm playing the ripatorium anyway

[solid nacelle]

I'm probably not gonna touch the ripatorium until 2.0 comes out

Too bare bones as it is now

[frail bloom]

2.0 implies its final update

[solid nacelle]

Who's to say they can't do 3.0

[frail bloom]

I expect that in like spring time

[frail bloom]

Based on tradition

[solid nacelle]

Ig

[frail bloom]

It might be update 1.1 for the ripatorium

[warm ibex]

based on what tradition?

[frail bloom]

Based on nothing lol

Made it up lmao

[warm ibex]

jesus christ man

no wonder there's so much misinformation constantly floating around lmao

[frail bloom]

I am the harbringer of doooomm

Fear me

Why tho what else has been spreadin around

[warm ibex]

really anything regarding the lore if we're being honest

[frail bloom]

No no no according to the lore they're gonna trap the slayer in that sarcophogus see

[idle elk]

A $35 paywall for another skin

Damn

[green estuary]

just ignoring the fact that the $35 is for the physical action figure but ok lmao

that's like saying TDA is locked behind a $2k paywall because it comes with a 5080

[idle elk]

Yep an action figure with a plastic cape and no shield

[green estuary]

dawg
it's 35 bucks
not sure what exactly you expected

idk why you're even complaining, if you think it's overpriced, don't buy it
it's literally just a toy

[idle elk]

Imagine buying a 2k gpu that cant even run the game that well in 4k

[green estuary]

ah so you're just here to bitch

figures

[idle elk]

Guess Im not allowed to say shit then

Damn

[frail bloom]

But bro look at your desc

You gotta live the part

Keep goin I'm rootin for ya

[green estuary]

boo hoo
I can't spout nonsense and have people immediately agree with me

[frail bloom]

Raaah!!! Rahhhh!

[idle elk]

Ur weird

[green estuary]

poor you indeed

[frail bloom]

Yes I am

Indeed

[idle elk]

https://tenor.com/view/avgn-wow-avgn-nintendo-power-wow-what-an-asshole-avgn-wow-what-an-asshole-avgn-react-gif-14849571

[warm ibex]

What's the deal with the "$35 for a skin" "$2000 for a skin" shit? I see people say that all the time as if the incredibly basic recolor isn't just a neat bonus item thrown in as an incentive to convince you to buy a legitimate product

Besides, they've previously confirmed that promo skins will be available through normal means later down the road. If you're only in it for the skins, just wait

[idle elk]

Well at least throw a 5090 if you are going to charge that much

Its going to cost more but…
Idk

Only rich people are going to pay for that and still its going to be an awful purchase

[warm ibex]

then don't buy it man

[frail bloom]

So uh, don't buy it

[green estuary]

round of applause for this man

[idle elk]

Wow you really are such an asshole

[idle elk]

I really was going to because Im kind of a dumbass and I want to have “everything” for the game
I already purchased a controller I wont use in my life

[frail bloom]

Don't give in to impulses

Be rational

[green estuary]

do you want a pat on the back for realizing an nvidia promo deal is a ripoff?

[fervent maple]

To be fair, what is the point of paying so much for a recolor if you don't care about the original product?

I used to see this all the time back then with League of Legends skins and I was equally baffled back then. There is little point to being a collector of digital items you can't sell or won't use.

[warm ibex]

It's even more pointless when they confirmed that promo skins will eventually become standard rewards several months ago

[fervent maple]

It isn't supposed to be "X amount of money for a skin", it's supposed to be a bonus incentive for the product itself

[fervent maple]

Yeah

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-the-dark-ages-doom-true-launch-the-true-doom-launch-the-true-gif-17039720600748597696

holy truth nuke

[green estuary]

never understood the skin obsession
the only time I'll even notice the difference is on the menu screen and in cutscenes, all of which I skip by the point in the game that I actually unlock skins anyways

[idle elk]

You want a cookie with that?

[green estuary]

[warm ibex]

😭

[green estuary]

bro is actually pressed for some reason

[frail bloom]

I want a cookie

[green estuary]

honestly same

[frail bloom]

Gimme pls

[warm ibex]

yeah me too actually

[frail bloom]

No serisouly I'm hungry imma find smt to eat

[idle elk]

Im not pressed?
Im listening to the other people that actually are contributing to the conversation 🤷

[frail bloom]

Got a jar of nutella

Imma feast

[green estuary]

just on the nutella?

[frail bloom]

Imma eat like 3 scoops

[warm ibex]

honestly fair

[idle elk]

The thing is idk whats with id and in game cosmetics

[frail bloom]

Alr im done

[warm ibex]

wym?

[frail bloom]

Don't eat too much

Bad for you

[idle elk]

They are really weird about it

[warm ibex]

in what way tho

[green estuary]

they give some for free, they give some for playing the game, and they give some as promo deals

that sounds fairly standard

[idle elk]

Yeah but straight up lying about there wasnt going to be any micro transactions in Eternal was kinda weird

[frail bloom]

Wut happened

[green estuary]

I wasn't playing the game when they made that promise so idk

[idle elk]

And now this

[green estuary]

but also every single skin in that game is either free now or was free at some point
same with TDA, except the skins are gonna be free in the future
hell, the phalanx skin (and all the other skins) are literally available with a mod

[idle elk]

Whats even the point of spending 2k if they are going to release the skin in the future for much cheaper?

[frail bloom]

I regret eating the nutella

[green estuary]

great question

[frail bloom]

I don't feel satiated

Don't be like me

[green estuary]

well duh

[warm ibex]

to get the other things in the bundle

[frail bloom]

I wanted smt chocolatey

[green estuary]

the same could be asked about every videogame promo deal ever

[frail bloom]

But nutella is weird

[idle elk]

But the other things arent even worth it

[frail bloom]

You think you want sm, but you don't

[green estuary]

a 5080 is a 1k card tbf

[idle elk]

If you have that kind of money you just go and buy a 5090

[green estuary]

well there's your answer
it's for people who have more money than sense

[idle elk]

Hell you can flex even more and buy that noctua astral 5090

[warm ibex]

It's not a great deal at all, but he asked why you would buy the bundle just for the skin

And you wouldn't buy the bundle just for the skin

[green estuary]

at least I hope not

[idle elk]

But at least make it special if they are going for that scummy route

[warm ibex]

same thing with the action figure. Why would you buy it just for the skin? You won't, you'll buy it for the actual product and enjoy the skin as a bonus

[idle elk]

Make it the only skin you can only obtain by buying that crap

[warm ibex]

why? so you can come in here and complain that you have to buy a $2k bundle just to get a skin?

[idle elk]

I wasnt complaining about the 2k gpu bundle

[green estuary]

yeah, you were complaining about the 35 dollar action figure initially, then switched to complaining about the 2k gpu bundle

[idle elk]

I was complaining about the $35 figure

[warm ibex]

and then you started complaining about the bundle

[idle elk]

My only complain about that bundle is the gpu

And the price

[frail bloom]

Ok

Don't buy it

[warm ibex]

I think we should move on

[frail bloom]

Ye

A very good animator on youtube used a lot of tda sountracks in his most recent animation

Guy called slick

Best use of the ost in a fan project

[warm ibex]

I think I saw that pop up in my feed

[frail bloom]

Watch it

[idle elk]

No

[frail bloom]

You won't regret it

[warm ibex]

I definitely will when I get the chance

[frail bloom]

Yes

#videos message

Classic Baron

[warm ibex]

there's concept art for a standard Baron of Hell in TDA, don't know if you guys have seen that yet

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/looking-around-what-confused-gif-21065154

[frail bloom]

I have

It's the fireborne tho

Not exactly my goat OG

[green estuary]

liked the 2016 baron better tbh

back when he just threw hands and chucked fireballs

[frail bloom]

Even the 2016 version coulda been better

[warm ibex]

I like the Gladiator best, wish we could just have that but pink and without the gear

[frail bloom]

No goat head

But fine I'll make my own

[green estuary]

I legitimately don't know how I could have improved on 2016's design
it's not 100% faithful to the original but it look so damn good

[frail bloom]

Not for 2016 but I mean in later sequels

Dark ages coulda had the classic one

[green estuary]

maybe yeah

[frail bloom]

But we're not at a point where we can have variants of the same demon from different eras

[half marlin]

could it be in the dlc? 🧐

[frail bloom]

Which is annoying

[frail bloom]

No I don't think that'll happen

[green estuary]

we can dream

[frail bloom]

Based on Josh's response to someone wanting a classic baron in a stream

He said we already had a baron

And said the cosmic baron outright

[half marlin]

well
thats fair

[frail bloom]

Yeah but he didn't really u derstand what the dude was saying

[idle elk]

Quake baron

[green estuary]

goddammit

[frail bloom]

The guy wanted a classic baron that also worked differently

Josh took it as a reskin

[green estuary]

idc if the classic baron even works the same

[frail bloom]

Made me fume first time I heard it

Cuz the baron's my fav

[green estuary]

just give me a huge red guy who bum rushes me

pause

[frail bloom]

No he should be slow

And cause shockwaves for you to jump over

Slow fireballs

But a bunch

[fervent maple]

I'd like the Armored Baron back in some way

[half marlin]

i think tda baron is best baron in terms of behavior
he's agressive af
as soon as i see him spawn and rush to me i know i'm fucked lol
and he'll never stop

[fervent maple]

Or a classic Baron

[frail bloom]

I'd like a slow variant too

[green estuary]

nah we got too many semi-static enemies
more agressive guys are always welcome

[fervent maple]

But I dunno how they'd differentiate it from the Cosmic Baron or even the Vagary

[frail bloom]

Slow doesn't mean static

[warm ibex]

red/pink gladiator... please id software i beg of you...

[frail bloom]

It means he's lumbering but he's always focused on you

[green estuary]

hence why I said semi-static

[frail bloom]

What I mean is that he can't really run

[green estuary]

boooo

[frail bloom]

He has good reaction time and can speedwalk

But the dark ages baron already runs

[green estuary]

barons gotta be aggressive
that's just a modern doom staple

[frail bloom]

Ok but it's a variant

[fervent maple]

Id has a classic baron allergy

[frail bloom]

Ye Ikr

They won't put em in

Even in a prequel like this

Medieval and allat, closer to the og timeline and allat

Missed opportunity

He's a goat for crying out loud

[green estuary]

[warm ibex]

although they did give us the classic imp, so I personally can't complain about literally anything else

[frail bloom]

Yeah

[green estuary]

they even gave them the archvile sounds lol

[frail bloom]

But they also removed the pain elemental and archie

So eh

[warm ibex]

we'll probably see them in the dlc anyways, I'm not too bothered

[frail bloom]

Plus, the classic imp dies too quickly

Being an imp and allat

[warm ibex]

yea but there's always like a trillion of them in the larger arenas so you're always fighting them

unless you mean the actual classic imp and not imp stalker

[frail bloom]

They are one of my fav's

[green estuary]

nightmare imps 🤢

[frail bloom]

Kinda speaks volumes on how the classics are always the best designs

Except the tyrant.

[green estuary]

not always

[warm ibex]

nah don't tell me that classic spectre texture recreation isn't actually flawless

[frail bloom]

No one talks abt the tyrant

[idle elk]

Cyberdemon*

[solar cairn]

The main thing is not to make mobs like hounds, marauders and so enough

[green estuary]

no, it is
but I absolutely hate them

[frail bloom]

He's no cyberdemon

Goblin ahhhh

And no cheeks

Not my cyberdemon

[idle elk]

And no red eyes

[frail bloom]

Ye ewwwww

Why's he so slimy

[warm ibex]

I don't care for them in combat but every time I see that spectre texture I clap my feet like a monkey who just found a golden banana

[frail bloom]

Diddy demon

[green estuary]

personally I think the modern hell knight design is better than just a reskinned baron
TDA's cyberdemon is the coolest looking cyberdemon probably in the history of the franchise

[frail bloom]

Ok true

Buuuuuttt we've had that hellknight for too long

Change it up a bit

[fervent maple]

I think they were going to be called Tyrants, they show up in the art book really late

[green estuary]

a lot of doom 3 designs were ass but boy oh boy did they cook with the hell knight design

[fervent maple]

And the art book is in alphabetical order

Same with the old one, shows up super early as though his name was cthulhu

[warm ibex]

labeled as tyrants in the files, I believe

[frail bloom]

But I'd say if they attempted to make a classic baron it would be their best baron yet

[fervent maple]

I think I would have accepted them being called tyrants tbh

[green estuary]

yeah their AI is literally called AI_MONSTER_TYRANT

[warm ibex]

I'm perfectly fine with the tyrant name, I think it's pretty fitting for the TDA design especially

[fervent maple]

They look less like cyberdemons than here yet the ones in eternal are called tyrants

[frail bloom]

Side note I don't like how the codeces look

The red font is ugly and the paper is ugly

I miss my futuristic dossier

With the 4k hd demon photos

[warm ibex]

nah I think it's cool as fuck

aside from the lack of demon photos

[frail bloom]

I liked how high res the demons were in the dossier

In this one they're drawings

[green estuary]

and frankly I like the doom 2016 baron design more than the OG as well
the eternal pain elemental was definitely an improvement

[frail bloom]

Just ehhhh

[frail bloom]

Heresy

Stone him

[green estuary]

the doom 2016 baron is just really damn cool

[frail bloom]

Stone the blasphemer

The false prophet

[green estuary]

if only they weren't siege mode fodder

[solar cairn]

It’s a pity that the demon itself is not very dangerous, in the eternal it was much more annoying

[green estuary]

hell nah
eternal tyrants are just bullet sponges

tda cybers are way worse

[warm ibex]

I do like that too though, the drawings are sick. makes it feel like a sentinel guide to demons/weapons/environments instead of just codex info from devs

[frail bloom]

I've given up hope on that classic design tho so the next best thing is an archie and pain elemental

[green estuary]

if they don't give us an archvile in the dlc I dunno what they're thinking

that's just the obvious move

[frail bloom]

I get the aesthetic choice but I prefer the holographic stuff

[frail bloom]

I'd be quite shocked ngl

Would be a very silly move

[idle elk]

marauder dlc

[frail bloom]

You need to bring all types of doomers

The nostalgic bunch love their classic demons

I am one of them

Maybe they'll see my goated animation

When I finish it👀

(I know they won't but I'm excited to finish it)

[solar cairn]

No, that’s enough, these demons only slow down the gameplay

[frail bloom]

I put a lot of cool gameplay ideas in there

[frail bloom]

But every demon is a maraduer

It's doom the marauder ages

[green estuary]

marauders don't slow gameplay down if you know what you're doing
except in one particular arena in the mars core ML, but that's the exception

[frail bloom]

The game is entirely based on marauder gameplay

[green estuary]

that said, I couldn't care less about the marauder

[frail bloom]

Or its foundations at least

[idle elk]

K but at least add omni sprint to the dlc

[solar cairn]

But all the demons get collateral damage from whatever you shoot, it’s much cooler

[frail bloom]

Preach

I needs it

But it kinda breaks the game currently

But dlc is gonna play differently

So there's a chance

They better drop some info this week

We've been waiting for three weeks now?

[idle elk]

The dlc will release tomorrow

[frail bloom]

No I didn't mean that

[solar cairn]

It’s not even clear what Hugo will come up with, as if there’s nowhere else to go

[frail bloom]

Like a little teaser

[solar cairn]

Unless they add one new melee weapon, maybe a new rune and that’s it

[frail bloom]

He said it'll raise the skill ceiling and include new things that raise it so I assume it's somewhat innovative

[green estuary]

🤨

[frail bloom]

Like he said, "eternal to 2016"

[solar cairn]

New sliders

[idle elk]

DOOM Eternal 2

[frail bloom]

"But also not that completely"

[green estuary]

100% an exaggeration, but a big step up would be nice

[warm ibex]

they actually confirmed that the lack of omni sprint is intentional, so I doubt we'll ever see it in an official capacity

[frail bloom]

What would y'all want to see them tease for the dlc:
A. A demon design and concept
B. A character
C. Enviroment
D. Weapon

[warm ibex]

bro thinks he's a horde mode gaming poll 😭

[frail bloom]

Ye def but he clearly means it adds a few things thst somewhat raises the skill ceiling

[solar cairn]

I would like more content for tryharders

[idle elk]

Freddy fazbear

[frail bloom]

I'm going to usurp you.

Hor hor hor hor hor hor hor hor hor hor

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/freddy-freddy-fazbear-fnaf-surprise-bear-gif-10797545912537514262

[frail bloom]

Me personally I choose A

[solar cairn]

At least the master levels in Eternal were an order of magnitude more complicated than the campaign or I think so

[warm ibex]

I thought eternal's master levels got really old really fast. Wasn't a fan of the direction they went with them

[green estuary]

agreed

sgn was the best one tbh

[warm ibex]

hard agree

[green estuary]

world spear was damn near unbearable at times

[idle elk]

fog marauder encounter with a lot of slopes

[green estuary]

tbh that was not even that bad

[warm ibex]

too much of an "endurance test" as they used to call it

[idle elk]

Believe me it was on release

[solar cairn]

Well, people still passed by the end

[green estuary]

was the encounter composition changed in that room?

or were marauders just more buggy

[solar cairn]

Probably it’s better to have difficult levels that players will try to pass than to have an average difficulty that everyone will pass in a couple of evenings

[idle elk]

Marauders had a high chance of not faltering on slopes

[green estuary]

ah right the bugginess

always fun

[idle elk]

And add the mecha zombies friendly fire to the mix

If they are going to do master levels for this game I hope they are like eternal's release master levels and not full of gimmicks

[green estuary]

that would be nice

the gimmicks in sgn and to a lesser extent taras nabad were mostly fun, but after that it just got tiresome

[solar cairn]

It seems to me that without master levels nowhere, players love them very much

[green estuary]

even though TDA's master levels aren't here yet you still couldn't pay me to replay the world spear

I love the concept, but eternal's ML execution was very hit and miss

[frail bloom]

You could pay me

Free money

[warm ibex]

the sheer amount of gimmick encounters definitely didn't help either, especially when an unfortunate amount of fights (both gimmick and non gimmick) boiled down to "how much junk can we cram into any given space before the player rage quits"

[green estuary]

literally

[idle elk]

I'll pay you with a $35 figure if you beat it without the hammer and on un

[green estuary]

you mean to tell me locking me in a tiny arena and raining down carpet bombs while I try to kill stuff felt like a fun time to you?

[green estuary]

I barely beat it on nightmare with the hammer lmao

[frail bloom]

That did feel fun tho

It was like the 2016 cybie fight

But with demons

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/fadding-homelander-gif-16156538903600882075

[frail bloom]

Fear me

I am the contradiction man

I spoil your opinions

[idle elk]

Cybie fight is bs on 2016

On nightmare

[frail bloom]

Ye too easy

Took me like 30 sec total at one replay

Siege mode it to heck

[green estuary]

wdym
even without the bfg he isn't that bad

[idle elk]

If you let him do the laser attack you're pretty much fucked

[frail bloom]

Well, don't

Jump him

With your guns

[green estuary]

there's a pattern
he locks on at a certain time so you gotta strafe the opposite way

frankly the worst attack is the one where he spews rockets at you when you're in between the two narrow walls

[idle elk]

He's also pretty buggy because even if you interrupt the attack there's a high chance the laser still hits you

[green estuary]

I don't rely on interrupting that attack, I just dodge it

I kinda just assume boss attacks can't be reliably interrupted unless told otherwise

[idle elk]

It still even hits while gauss boosting

[green estuary]

I dunno why you have trouble with it
you just have to pay attention when it locks on to you and then quickly reverse directions

[frail bloom]

Bro doing fancy stuff

You're overthinking it

Simply siege mode

And doubletap ssg

[idle elk]

Dksms deletes it in less than 10 seconds

[green estuary]

dksms is just abuse tbh

it just makes the game worse

[idle elk]

Everything makes the game worse if you think about it

[frail bloom]

What's dksms

I'm lost

[green estuary]

uh
no

[green estuary]

a glitch where you can trigger siege mode without the charge up time by switching from another weapon and holding down alt fire

[frail bloom]

Say what

Modern ID would 100% patch that

[green estuary]

yeah it's quickswapping to the gauss cannon, except instead of primary fire you get siege mode

[idle elk]

There's literally a rune that gives you infinite ammo and lets you camp in a corner while siege everything

And thats not an exploit

[frail bloom]

2016 is just a sandbox that gives you overpowered stuff to have fun with

[green estuary]

ok
then why do instant siege mode

[idle elk]

The ammo consumption is kinda wild tho

[frail bloom]

I don't think Josh was online today

[green estuary]

well siege mode also instakills every enemy in the game except for 3

so there's that

[frail bloom]

He was for these past few weeks

Been reading what we've been saying

[idle elk]

You'll eventually run out of ammo if you spam it a lot and on nightmare if you are not using the ammo rune chainsaws barely give you any ammo

[green estuary]

siege mode would be balanced if it did 1600 damage instead of 2000 and if it had a longer charge up time

[warm ibex]

you never know who's watching and reading man, even if they don't make it known

hugo could be reading all this right now and we'd never know

[green estuary]

yeah well
if you're cheesing with dksms odds are you're cheesing in other ways too lmao

[idle elk]

Dksms is more fun than just camping in a corner waiting for demons to get closer

[green estuary]

you know what's more fun
actually charging up siege mode mid-combat like you would for destroyer blade

it's not like the charge up time is prohibitively long anyways

it's still significantly shorter than D blade

[idle elk]

There's more verticality in Eternal so you can literally mitigate the long charge up by doing it on the air

You cant do that on 2016

[green estuary]

siege mode charge up in 2016 is also half the duration of d blade charge in eternal

and jump pads also exist in pretty much every arena

[idle elk]

You cant bunny hop either

[green estuary]

siege mode isn't limited to either "camp in a corner and spam" or dksms cheese

and like I said, the charge up time is relatively short

[idle elk]

K but how the fuck do I deal with multiple chaingunners without taking too much damage

[green estuary]

chaingunners?

[idle elk]

Yeah in tda

[green estuary]

awfully quick change of subject but ok

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

you literally have to take damage, there's no way around it

they aren't an enemy that's meant to be spammed

[idle elk]

Idk how's the damage on nightmare but it was pretty awful on uv

[green estuary]

really bad

it was even worse after update 2

but thankfully they toned them down a little

in the early game they would just take away huge chunks of your health and you couldn't do anything about it

[idle elk]

Literally a melee swipe from a stalker imp takes me to low health

[green estuary]

yeah their lunge attack is the new cacodemon bite

on nightmare default settings it deals 100 damage and ignores death protection

[frail bloom]

I hope

[idle elk]

I thought they were going to be fodder but with extra steps

[green estuary]

following in the modern doom tradition of making imps absolute assholes

but tbf it does balance out the fact that their ranged attack is pathetic

although that doesn't really comfort me when the nightmare imp has the same vicious melee lunge but a wide ass tracking projectile that blocks my attacks

[frail bloom]

Ye he's a bit wonky

[green estuary]

he's not wonky, he's just a dick

[frail bloom]

Shh don't call him that

He's in the corner of me room

Help me

I have a gameplay idea

You throw the shield, and if you hit it mid air with either the rocket launcher or grenade launcher, its horizontal speed goes way fasterandmakes a shockwave that falters demons on impsct

[green estuary]

shield probably travels too fast for that, no?

[frail bloom]

You would need a larger arena yes

[green estuary]

and it also travels in a direction that's completely horizontal to our pov

so the hitbox is about as small as humanly possible

[frail bloom]

Oh

Well it looks cool in my animation

[green estuary]

you like ultrakill don't you squidward

[frail bloom]

You could do hitscan deflections tho

Your ssg shoots off the shield throw which deflects on a demon

[frail bloom]

I never played ultrakill

[green estuary]

really

[frail bloom]

I thought my idea was orignal but noooooooo ultrakill this ultrakill that

[green estuary]

because that's very similar to the coin mechanic from ultrakill

[frail bloom]

So I've heard

[warm ibex]

ultrakill fans have made me not want to play ultrakill (and also the fact that itn ever goes below a 15% sale)

[frail bloom]

Can't wait to finish my animation and show what I'm talking abt

Actually I can do that now

It'll be up for like 5 sec

[green estuary]

tbf it's only 25 bucks rn

but yes, a lot of the fanboys piss me off

[frail bloom]

#videos message

5

1

0

But ye like that

[idle elk]

Femboy doom eternal

[warm ibex]

I'm unfortunately not interested enough to pay more than like $15 for it, and I've never seen it that low

not that I don't think it's a good game or worth the price, but it just never caught my eye

[green estuary]

imo it's overrated
great game but people legitimately talk about it like it's the second coming of jesus christ in game form

[warm ibex]

that also sorta impacts my perception of it

can't say I'm a fan of how overly obsessed some fans seem to be. every community has those types of folks, of course, but I've gotten so many comments over the years from people with ultrakill pfps and ultrakill usernames that just spout unrelated nonsense about the game

[green estuary]

the constant need to compare everything to ultrakill

[frail bloom]

Why aren' you like ultrakill

You dissappoint me

[covert goblet]

So, I'm going on a third attempt for ultra nightmare. (Last time I made it to harbor of lost souls).

Is it considered cheap to play it modified at this point?

[warm ibex]

it's a single player game man, play however you want

[green estuary]

I mean if you're honest about it then it's nbd

I just take issue with the guys who brag about beating UN knowing damn well they made it easier on themselves

[warm ibex]

yeah that's a different story

[green estuary]

but also UN/pandaemonium in tda are so buggy I kinda understand it lmao

[covert goblet]

Yeah, I know those kinds of people.
I don't want to be that kind of guy.

I kinda just want the gold armor. (I know it's cheap trying to get it modified)

[hearty edge]

they weren't that much of an asshole in eternal

[idle elk]

give player/skin/gold_armor

[hearty edge]

chat can someone lend me 1500 dollars

[warm ibex]

the real doom slayer doesn't need money

[covert goblet]

💵 x 1500

[idle elk]

Is he the real doom slayer or the canon doom slayer?

[covert goblet]

Thanks.

[warm ibex]

what's the difference 🤔

[hearty edge]

king novik stopped giving me royalties

and i need an actual pc to get out of 30 fps nightmare

[idle elk]

You cant

30 fps is the new norm

[covert goblet]

You have a custom 3 screen pc that runs 30 fps?
Bruh.

[hearty edge]

https://tenor.com/view/bebe-gif-5526812072482676565

[hearty edge]

thats me in the future

i'm still an eon behind

this is how i get the custom pc trust

its a canon event

[frail bloom]

What in the esoteric horror is that

[hearty edge]

burning baby gif

[frail bloom]

So you looked up burning baby

https://tenor.com/view/bebe-gif-5526812072482676565

[hearty edge]

yes

[frail bloom]

Why does this exist

[idle elk]

Only true horror awaits us in the near future

[frail bloom]

More burning babies????

Say it ain't so

[idle elk]

No

[frail bloom]

Oh

[idle elk]

More ai slop

[frail bloom]

Still not good

But phew

https://tenor.com/view/hugo-martin-doom-eternal-dark-ages-happy-yay-gif-13218051490774665565

There's only two hugo gifs

I want more

[hearty edge]

https://tenor.com/view/hugo-martin-doom-doom-eternal-doom-2016-giga-chad-gif-8667813971741982445

hugo chadtin

[frail bloom]

Hugo boofin

[long heath]

i was held at gunpoint to play the game during a personal situation

[green estuary]

fair
but gargoyles were the real imps in eternal

[long heath]

yeah

luckily you can still 1tap em with the chainsaw

[hearty edge]

wat

[green estuary]

I mean they were the closest thing to 2016 imps that we got in eternal

[hearty edge]

yah

[covert goblet]

Yk, I kinda wish we got to see more of the kreed maykr's assistant.

Like, as cool as we got to see the maykr drones having actual character, I feel like the assistant had the best design out of all of them.

[hearty edge]

yeah he could've been in ressurection

at least a cutscene r smth

[idle elk]

Do extra lives secrets are still counted on UN?

[meager vortex]

no

[idle elk]

K thx

[wintry nexus]

+PROJECTILE BOOSTING

[static harness]

Hi

[wheat sigil]

if you're a wimp and don't use fast destroyer blade

i've started shooting cyberdemons from far away quite a bit, mostly just cause going in close like that annoys me lol

just have to watch out for the hitscan😭

[remote canopy]

Does anyone know can't I apply dlss frame gen even while having a 40 series gpu

It reduced my fps to 50~60 ish

[solar cairn]

Maybe the driver is too old where there is no support?

[meager vortex]

if halloween day there are get a skin for zombie slayer?

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doom-the-dark-ages-zombie-zombie-doom-slayer-gif-5236777237986457060

[random sand]

That'd be pretty sick ngl

[daring linden]

They should add a checkbox in the skin page to turn off the silly fur cape

[random sand]

The cape is cool tho

[daring linden]

I find it silly and I'd rather not have it

[random sand]

C'moon! Doom slayer with a cape is cool!

[daring linden]

I don't find it that cool

It's also realistically a huge liability for no reason

And we don't even know of any Argenta creatures that have hair and are big enough to provide a cape of that size

[grim charm]

More like… THE GLITCH AGES!1 HAH!!1

[thick pulsar]

Wait a second.. IS THAT

[grim charm]

?

[thick pulsar]

Ur the

One from the tsb server..

[grim charm]

???

[thick pulsar]

Don't act dumb

[grim charm]

Oh shii we are in the tsb server

[grim charm]

Have we talked?

[thick pulsar]

No but I've seen u before

ALOT of times

[grim charm]

Yeah. Game mods doubled down saying the ban evasion ban was correct with no proof

[spiral cypress]

Are any new dlcs coming soon?

[dreamy kiln]

Yes, but probably not until next year

[spiral cypress]

Ok ty

[harsh egret]

just one dlc, likely a bigger one tho

[random sand]

Idk. Could be at the end of the year

[harsh egret]

very unlikely

[random sand]

Why?

[harsh egret]

i mean

idk if u kept up with the hugo streams but he does not make it sound like its coming this year

[ebon shale]

Could we get the Dlc reveal trailer at the gameawards?

[harsh egret]

i could see that happening yeah

lines up with my personal prediction for it to release in february, and tag1 also got its trailer 2 months before release

[wintry nexus]

Imagine the amount of cloth it took to make the cape on the king atlan

[hearty edge]

why tf does king novik even have a cape in his atlan

[wintry nexus]

It looks cool

Duh.

I guess it’s also a way for the other Atlans to know who’s king

[violet lynx]

worst modern doom game 😊

[violet lynx]

nah

how ablut dlc for 2016

[wintry nexus]

Nope

[violet lynx]

i said modern, not all the doom games

[wintry nexus]

I can read

Still no

[harsh egret]

ik u want attention but u can also have a normal convo here yk

[formal root]

yet its one of the doom games that I see it have the most replayability

specially with the ripatorioum having an endless mode

I haven’t played it, but I can see people can use that as like a training ground for the dlc

but mkay, your choice man

[harsh egret]

the endless mode just respawns the same wave over and over, gets a lil repetitive
they'll add customizable waves which will make the mode tons more fun

[formal root]

true

maybe like a horde mode but it’s yknow

more wave of demons than challenges

[graceful acorn]

How good is DOOM the dark ages, i kind of missed out on that one

Played every part of DOOM games but dark ages

[formal root]

its very positive on steam

[harsh egret]

play it and see how u like it, everyone has diff opinions

[formal root]

i’m still planning on building me a pc to try it out

[harsh egret]

imo its the best modern doom game

and one if not my fav game of all time

[formal root]

honestly i’m excited for some games to try once I have my pc

but I saw a playthrough of it

ngl, it looks really fun

[graceful acorn]

This game weighs 100 gb, damn

Def more than I thought

[harsh egret]

80 gigs for me

[wheat sigil]

very fun game
but (imo) there are quite a few annoying game design choices

[graceful acorn]

Gotta give a shot playing dark ages sometime later

I mean, if reviews are positive, and people like it, why not

[random sand]

My tda doom slayer figure has arrived! He's awesoome!

[warm ibex]

It also lines up with Bethesda's current marketing/release strategies

TDA and Indiana Jones followed a very similar pre-launch marketing flow, so it makes sense that post-launch would be similar as well.

Indiana Jones' DLC was revealed six months after the campaign released (June 2025) and then released three months after the reveal (September 2025)

So assuming DLC development has gone well, it makes sense that we'd see a reveal trailer in November/December and a release in February/March

[harsh egret]

TAG1 also got its trailer about 2 months before

(tag2 was different but for a reason xd)

[fresh raven]

The Atlan missions are the easiest even on Nightmare difficulty I have no problem somehow and I can't do Nightmare on the other DOOM games

[formal root]

guess you’re that good at throwing hands

[fresh raven]

Yeah although I haven't finished the game yet and I'm on Chapter 16

I'll make sure the demons can't defeat the Doom Slayer

Although how are there demons if we killed The Dark Lord

[wheat sigil]

prequel

[fresh raven]

Right because DOOM: The Dark Ages takes place before DOOM Eternal I believe

[wheat sigil]

exactly

[fresh raven]

I get that The Dark Ages is before Eternal but where does his cape, shield, flair, and Eldritch mace go

[formal root]

for all we know lore wise

they’re gone

[green estuary]

Bro lost his style points

[wheat sigil]

he eated them because he's a hungry boi

[fresh raven]

Lore is confusing sometimes

[formal root]

being a fighter jet has the sacrifice of losing drip sadly

[meager vortex]

but we don't know

[warm ibex]

I mean he's imprisoned by Hell for ages, I don't think they'd just keep his weapons laying around his tomb so he could wake up to a full arsenal lol

[meager vortex]

but doom2016 doom slayer use modern gun

[warm ibex]

it's a prequel to 2016 as well

[meager vortex]

even doom2016demo prequel too

[red peak]

Is the pulverizer underrated? I mean tbh it eats through enemies when its charged so-

Its only issue imo is that its difficult to keep its charge up at times

[fresh raven]

Good to know

[wheat sigil]

behh

my scientific opinion

[red peak]

But i love that gunnnn

[wheat sigil]

i was gonna hop on tda, but went into eternal just by muscle memory😭

[wheat sigil]

then go ahead and use it

[red peak]

Lmao

[solar cairn]

Another six months..

Give me at least master levels, I beg you

[solar cairn]

As if DLC for Indiana is easier to make

For the Doom, you need to build competent arenas, then test sets of demons there, plus some innovations in the gameplay

As if more different subtleties need to be taken into account

[warm ibex]

They need to build completely new environments and test combat encounters/puzzles for Indiana Jones too man, that's how game development works

[wintry nexus]

I loved the part in doom the dark ages where the doom slayer said “it’s doom slayin’ time” and doomed all over the place

[solar cairn]

In my opinion, Indiana is much more trivial in terms of development

Draw new beautiful corridors, come up with a plot and cutscenes, that’s all

[wraith maple]

ı died first boss

[wintry nexus]

They died first boss

[warm ibex]

Your opinion is not fact, unfortunately

[wintry nexus]

Hi horde

[solar cairn]

(((

[warm ibex]

omg hi jazz!!

[wintry nexus]

Vega

😝😝

[wheat sigil]

adding 7 demons isn't too bad, and world-building isn't exclusive to tda

[solid beacon]

You like "jazz slayer?"

[wintry nexus]

Ya like jazz?

[harsh egret]

yeah bro does not know how game development works

[wintry nexus]

Don’t be such a Meanie

😝

[harsh egret]

if ur gonna look at it like that, u might as well just describe doom as "put walls around the map, place demons in random places, thats all"

[solar cairn]

Well, it’s more complicated

[harsh egret]

yh and other games u dont play are too

just gotta stop living in a doom echo chamber

[solar cairn]

I praise the Doom from morning till night

[wintry nexus]

😝

[frail bloom]

Ye we can see

[wintry nexus]

🙂‍↕️

[wheat sigil]

chaingunners are a monolith of suckiness

[wintry nexus]

they arent that bad

[green estuary]

they’re dicks

[frail bloom]

They're ok

[wintry nexus]

woah

[wheat sigil]

big ones

[frail bloom]

Easier than the og one's

Those guys took your health no matter what

[green estuary]

OG chaingunners were spammed

[frail bloom]

At least here you have a shield

[wintry nexus]

the guys wearing red?

[frail bloom]

Ye

[wintry nexus]

ohhh

[frail bloom]

Wdym ooohhh

[wheat sigil]

breaks in like 2 hits

and honestly better to just tank the hits a lot of the time

[green estuary]

Even just a few chaingunners in TDA can completely ruin your day

[frail bloom]

Well don't have it break then

[wheat sigil]

since you want to have your shield for parries and shit

[wintry nexus]

bro

[frail bloom]

Skippy

[wheat sigil]

dam didn't think of that

[wintry nexus]

HOW is that spamming

[wheat sigil]

i'll just avoid the unavoidable damage

[frail bloom]

I win yet again

Nah just go in its face

It'll do a melee lunge

And then you shoot it

It's how I dispatch them

[wheat sigil]

yes because before then they won't get any hits on you

[frail bloom]

Well just shield bash

It won't break mid bash

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-willem-dafoe-duh-duhh-obviously-gif-16794513

[frail bloom]

Also why assume your shield is almost done for

Just don't get to that point lmao

Git gud

[wheat sigil]

it's always on the verge of breaking😭

wonders of 500% dmg and fast projectile slider

[green estuary]

even at 300% it breaks incredibly easily

[wheat sigil]

ya

[wheat sigil]

my point is that for you to be able to shield bash, you'll have to spor them, and almost always before then they'll get their shitty hitscan hits on you

[wintry nexus]

how are you guys having such a big problem with them

wait sry thats kinda mean

[green estuary]

when the damage taken increases, hitscan becomes more and more unbearable

they’re not a huge problem from the mid game and beyond, but before you get the ssg/chainshot they’re such assholes

[wintry nexus]

oohhh you meant before

[frail bloom]

That explains everything

[wintry nexus]

i didnt know that

[frail bloom]

Well you made it like that, so that's kinda on you

[wheat sigil]

what 😭

[green estuary]

Well they’re hitscan so it’s not like projectile speed matters

[wheat sigil]

because i want the game to be harder it's my fault certain mechanics become shitty?

[wintry nexus]

??

dude dont you get 1 shot?

[frail bloom]

Well yeah things are gonna get imbalanced

So don't complain abt it

Values are put a certain way for a reason

[wheat sigil]

nah

[wintry nexus]

yeah what he said

[wheat sigil]

lol

[wintry nexus]

dont you get overwhelmed?

[wheat sigil]

really bad argument, since the reason for sliders is specifically for the player to adjust the game to their liking, and to make it harder/easier
i've made the game harder, and i'm fine with taking more damage, since i want that
but i'm not fine with guaranteed damage for no reason which would've been a very preventable thing

and this is the same exact thing on lower damages, just exacerbated when you increase dmg to player

[wintry nexus]

well i now realize that most of you are some insane pro gamers

[wheat sigil]

i die quite a lot, but i don't usually get overwhelmed

[wintry nexus]

man

you ppl are crazy

[wheat sigil]

just put a lot of hours into eternal, which somewhat transfers over here

[frail bloom]

Ok I guess the only solution is a seperate damage slider for projectiles and hitscan

Better?

[red copper]

I miss quick switching ngl

[wheat sigil]

rework chaingunners

[wheat sigil]

still exists

[red copper]

Technically I could somewhat replicate it by tweaking gameplay speed

[red copper]

Kinda

[green estuary]

Hitscan isn’t inherently bad, but a hitscan enemy that has a beefy ass shield which forces you to absorb their hitscan attacks because you can’t block and shoot at the same time is a problem

[wheat sigil]

exists to just the same extent as before

but ssg quick swaps which were briefly in the game aren't there by default anymore

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/thierry-henry-thierry-henry-arsenal-roam-gif-21292008

[half marlin]

i wanted to share music fk u vega

[green estuary]

“posting links too fast”

[half marlin]

one more time but in one message

doom 3 theme reference
https://youtu.be/lfYaE4QqmmQ?t=465
https://youtu.be/SzI7DLR0DPU?t=66

[wintry nexus]

well that does kinda sound the same

kinda

[solid beacon]

Doom 3 main music with dark ages mix

[grim cloud]

stream morrow?

feels like ages ago ...

[willow beacon]

I did the first level on Max sliders then stopped playing, is it worth going back and finishing?

[green estuary]

no

[willow beacon]

I did a run right before with all sliders except the damage on Max, those were normal nightmare

[green estuary]

max projectile speed is legitimately not fair

[willow beacon]

Nah I’m used to that

[green estuary]

and 500% damage makes it worse

[willow beacon]

The shield insta breaking is what will mess me up more

[green estuary]

maybe, but there are certain projectiles that are literally not possible to dodge with max projectile speed
at 300% you can semi-tank them but 500% doesn't let you

[willow beacon]

I got timing for parrying down with max proj speed

[willow beacon]

Which ones

Cause I didn’t find any that seemed unfair

[green estuary]

the most egregious is the acolyte's purple nonsense

[willow beacon]

Acolytes never gave me trouble

[green estuary]

fortunate

[willow beacon]

This was on 150% speed too

[green estuary]

but also any narrow corridor with tracking projectiles

[willow beacon]

Mancubi were what got me the most, if I wasn’t paying attention it was easy for a wall to get me from behind

[green estuary]

yeah mancs are tough but fair because their projectiles just travel straight and in a fixed pattern

[willow beacon]

As long as I’m not dumb they’re not a problem though

Just gotta stay focused

Revenants and cacos could also get me sometimes

[green estuary]

nightmare imp projectiles in tight corridors are ridiculous on max projectile speed though

[willow beacon]

That’s true

If you don’t have room to dodge they’re a problem

Not bad on 250% damage cause you can tank them but on 500 it just breaks and you die

[green estuary]

correct
hence why I tried 500% damage for about an hour and stopped lmao

[willow beacon]

It sucks but I really enjoyed the first level

I’ll probably do the second and see how I feel about it

[solid nacelle]

Yeah it's borderline impossible on the kreed maykr fight after the buff that it received a couple updates ago, I always have to change the settings before I go into it

[warm ibex]

yeah, hopefully another dlc reveal too...

[grim cloud]

dlc nugget would be nice

[hearty edge]

me when soldier balls

[harsh egret]

just turn ur back on them so u take less damage

[hearty edge]

actually the cape could like make the projectiles get caught r somt

[green estuary]

can you turn your back on the acolyte's projectile rain?

[hearty edge]

duck

[green estuary]

bruh

it's literally falling from the ceiling

[hearty edge]

yea u duck by laying on the ground face down

[harsh egret]

i would assume not

[shell ruin]

I just made a da cosplay

[mint venture]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-the-dark-ages-doom-slayer-poster-dragon-gif-351000602723686655

[frail bloom]

I mean, I guess instead a fodder shield dude with a hitscan and shield he instead is just beefier, lobs grenades and still retains his hitscan. And make him look like a chaingunner he's not a black sergeant in this one

[meager vortex]

https://youtu.be/HVTSk32Szh8?list=PLSHdOA4o6T_cWBN5kgMjygJe-aXlF-k2k

[quiet geyser]

how does some of the structures not collapse underneath the slayer’s feet after he lands on a seemingly structurally unstable floor?

[solid nacelle]

Probably because the video game is made of video game

[hearty edge]

chat would a b580 run the game good

planning to buy an actual pc and that's the cheapest current gen card that doesn't suck ahh (5060)

[solar cairn]

If they give content in the form of master levels, the waiting for DLC will be more pleasant

[wheat sigil]

gonna be hard as balls, but sure

[harsh egret]

depends what "good" is for you

[uneven mortar]

Any Hugo news?

[harsh egret]

stream is in about 13 hrs

[unkempt dragon]

6:00pm ET

[fair elk]

<@&162901871168585728> above post fyi

[unkempt dragon]

ty

[green estuary]

Please don’t get a 5060

[solar cairn]

[grizzled thicket]

Uuuh yeah maybe on the lowest settings

[violet lynx]

no

when will we get dlc for eternal and 201y

[solid nacelle]

Eternal already got dlc

Neither of those games are being supported content wise anymore just give up

"When is frame gen and dlss coming to eternal and 2016" it's the same fucking answer every time

Sorry this guy has me tweaking

[wintry nexus]

Calm down this guy’s probably just coping

[silent surge]

so who wants hugo to do the new secret fight that was just found???

@subtle heart made a major discovery

[versed stone]

I never understood why people say you cannot play Doom: The Dark Ages on a budget build, it’s totally possible. https://youtube.com/shorts/g27K64gmFIo?si=N_itQnvJoLtKALpL

[solid nacelle]

I guess but it's every day with this nonsense. Maybe it's me who needs to touch grass tbh

[reef lava]

I completely agree with you. He talks about it like if DLSS and Frame gen was something unholy to use, but in my opinion, Frame gen is very good, if not for quality, but for preventing screen tearing. With 1080p ultra, texture pool: 1500, DLSS Quality and Frame Gen 3 or 4 and vsync triple buffering, the game runs perfecily on a 5060 at about 200-240Fps, paired with an ultra 5 245KF. I barely noticed some visual visibility of DLSS and that was only in the opening scene when the lightning flashes happen.

[warm ibex]

He's just gonna keep coming back if you keep giving him attention

That goes for everyone ofc not just you

[versed stone]

You can still go even more budget that the 5060. I found a 2070 on Newegg for like $170, and that can handle 1080p high like it’s nothing.

[green estuary]

People are just stupid
I get 60-70 fps on my laptop 4060

[topaz oasis]

when I use burst fire CS I can tell that sometimes the game loses frames when there are many enemies and projectiles on screen

CS visual effects are OP

[hearty edge]

i mean the requirements are to play it on 60fps on native so it kinda makes sense

still dlss and fsr is so good it's dumb not to use it for extra performance

[upbeat junco]

DLSS and Frame Gen in 2016 😭

That game will run smoothly on a smart fridge

[versed stone]

The requirements also say a CPU that is 8 cores is required minimum, but you can still easily get good performance on a 6 core CPU like the Ryzen 3600 or Intel 10400.

[upbeat junco]

It dont need upscaling or frame gen

[hearty edge]

i get like 100 native fps with my 3050 laptop

[green estuary]

no shot

no upscaling, no frame gen?

oh wait this is 2016 we're talking about

[hearty edge]

yea on the dark ages i get like 60 max with dlss performance

[green estuary]

I was about to say

[upbeat junco]

playing eternal after dark ages made me appreciate the game speed slider in dark ages

i hope the sliders are here to say for future games

[hearty edge]

smth weird is that the ripartorium is one of the places where it runs the most smoothly

other than that i also recall botb being smooth

[green estuary]

forsaken plains for whatever reason is the only level that can make my average drop below 60

dunno why

[upbeat junco]

clearly cause they're forsaken

[hearty edge]

without the meathook and ballista i feel like eternal's slayer speed feels the slowest out of the 3 newest

[half marlin]

in tda?

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-willem-dafoe-duh-duhh-obviously-gif-16794513

[half marlin]

that's the forest level right

[upbeat junco]

hell

[green estuary]

no that's abyssal forest

forsaken plains is the first hell level

[half marlin]

aaaah hell
that's weird tho

cuz I had fps drops in forest but it was ok in hell

[hearty edge]

i've started eternal's campaign again and missions 1 and 2 felt so slow after the sprint in tda

[green estuary]

my nvidia gpu doesn't like red, who would've thought

[upbeat junco]

azhrak is siphoning your pc performance to keep his dimension running or something

👍

[hearty edge]

so that's why the cosmic realm always runs smooth for me

[green estuary]

well tbf hell on earth and the first half of exultia feel slow in relation to the rest of eternal

[hearty edge]

it's green

[green estuary]

because no dash

[hearty edge]

yea

[upbeat junco]

i keep trying to parry incoming fire like a moron

and ofc the dreaded melee thinking it'll drop ammo

[half marlin]

it's sad how we never got HoE master level and those modded ones are either unfinished or insanely hard

[green estuary]

me trying to parry a hell knight smash with my precision bolt scope

[upbeat junco]

too true

i literally tried shield bashing in for a glory kill but i just looked through the pbolt scope like bruuuh fml

[half marlin]

not saying insanely hard is bad tho

[upbeat junco]

here's hoping dark ages gets a master campaign

or at least that ng+ that's been goin around in chat

[green estuary]

maaaybe we'll hear something about it on the stream today

[upbeat junco]

right

[green estuary]

one can hope

[half marlin]

I hope so

[upbeat junco]

whens the stream again i hope its not late

[green estuary]

in 4 hours and 46 minutes

[upbeat junco]

rough

[half marlin]

it's 01:00 in night for me

but I'm ready to sacrifice my sleep

[wheat sigil]

there is one official hoe master level, only playable via mods doe

there's a reason it was never really releasef though
and that comment on most hoe mls being super hard or unfinishrf is weirdly real lmao

[frail bloom]

The what now

[red peak]

Huh?

[frail bloom]

Quick someone post it here

[frail bloom]

No no they're gonna play from the ashes for 11 min and you're gonna like it

[hearty edge]

dude they were so trippy when i got back to eternal

like i'm way more used to parrying and hitting them with the ssg than just killing them feels weird

[frail bloom]

Only thing that I had to get used to is how light I felt

Besides that going back wasn't hard

I was sad a lil when I couldn't do the ground pound

Hugo stream soon

Please, please something substantial

Also may someone pls post that allstin vid here

[green estuary]

if they stream and they straight up don't give us any substantial info I lowk might crash out

[frail bloom]

Ye 3 weeks for what??

Either some dlc tidbits or some master level info

[green estuary]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqNGCEguRLA

[frail bloom]

Oh thank you

[warm ibex]

I can't even play it

my game is bugged and I can't progress past any leader demon, so I'm stuck in the first Belly of the Beast arena 💀

[frail bloom]

Holy crap

It's so well made

So well thought out

If that's what to expect from master levels I'd say we're all good

Ye that's awesome

They should put more pressure units on powerups often

If there's a mega health or beserk put an arachnotron or mortar manc

[silent surge]

what the ripatorium could be

[frail bloom]

Now HOW did someone find this

Who spent all that time backtracking

[silent surge]

gougaru found the first button but didn’t realize there was more, and kruge found both

backtracking - the world spear 5 marauder easter egg

[warm ibex]

if 2.0 introduces wave customization then we'll be set

and also hopefully enforcers

[frail bloom]

Can we have lost souls too

[warm ibex]

no but we can have found souls

[frail bloom]

Can I also have the whiplash and lost soul models they're missing

Kinda annoys me a lil which annoys me a lot

Lil nagging feeling

[frail bloom]

Would be cool if you can change the arena each wave also

Since each arena plays differently

[half marlin]

hell naw that's too cbt lmao

i can't complete it without bfc 💀

at the wave with 3 barons

[wheat sigil]

no shame in using bfc tho

[green estuary]

well tbf if you asked me to beat the taras nabad ML without using a superweapon I probably couldn't do it

well, scratch that, I have done so
but it also took me like 4 hours

[silent surge]

keep on kiting them, backing up
it’s hard to control the space with 3 pressing you

[wheat sigil]

parry spam

[half marlin]

they just don't split up somehow lol
it's like they have hive mind

[half marlin]

sooner or later that'll lead to shieldbreak

[wheat sigil]

eh not really

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-use-your-brain-use-the-brain-think-brain-gif-7914082

not if you hit all your parries

[frail bloom]

Can you not target the enforcer?

Use heaven splitter it's free stuns

[wheat sigil]

maybe if your timing is off, otherwise only 3 barons aren't particularly challenging

[half marlin]

barons won't ignore that

[frail bloom]

Use heaven splitter

It'll shock all of them and you'll have a window to kill the enforcer

[green estuary]

better yet, use ground fissure

[frail bloom]

If you want

[half marlin]

that could work

[frail bloom]

Ye it could

[harsh egret]

thats cool asf