the-dark-ages

[harsh egret]

more than dlc master levels or ripatorium arenas seems too much to be working on after dlc

[frail bloom]

They did say they might make their own presets

But y'know, I'd imagine it's a menu with names and if you click it the amt of enemies on each slider changes

[harsh egret]

doing some presets is like the easiest thing they can do

[frail bloom]

Not exactly really fun to look at but I'd imagine they'd do smt like that

Customizable waves is one thing

Community presets is another

But still I feel it can get too stale with only 3 arenas

And you can only play in one at a time too

Despite how different they are

[harsh egret]

all im saying is theres no chance they will do a roguelike.

[frail bloom]

There's a little chance

You don't know with these things

I never expected a master level campaign

I expected like 5 master levels total

All I'm saying, is that you never know

[strong moth]

A sort or replayable roguelite mode sorta along the lines of GoW Ragnarok Valhalla, with weapon restrictions and unlocks and bonuses like Berserk becoming available based on performance is like, my dream addition to the game… but a story DLC, master levels, and shareable Ripatorium (along with updates to that mode) is already such a beefy package. I’ve already sunk 100 hours into the game. Master Levels and Expansion content and Ripatorium are gonna add so many more. I’m eating like a king

[frail bloom]

Well someone's grateful

Yeah there's a lot of promises

All I want really is an archvile and pain elemental

I'm a shrimple man

[arctic flame]

anyone knows what the 430 megabyte update was for?

[frail bloom]

The what

Did you find what it was

[arctic flame]

No, no info

[pastel drift]

Hey guys, I came here quickly just to ask if anyone is interested in helping me with the delta touch? Would someone have my trust to log into the account and then log out so I can have the app for free?I already have more and a previous version, I wanted to play my house.wad

😔
👉👈

[fresh swan]

It would look really cool if you added a Iron Man type suit like red and yellow for doom slayer

[austere spoke]

Guys, what are your thoughts on the stone imps from Dark Ages? Everyone hates the ones from Doom Eternal, and I don't know what the community thinks about their most recent iteration

[half marlin]

def better than eternal ones imo

[austere spoke]

Also, don't spoil level names plz, I'm still beating the game

[half marlin]

at least I don't have to switch my weapon then switch the mod to kill em

[austere spoke]

Fair enough

[half marlin]

so they're not annoying at all at least for me

[austere spoke]

I think they are a good risk/reward situation. You can bash them immediately OR wait for them to do their pinball attack, risking taking damage, to deal more damage with the flying chunks they are reduced to upon parrying

[half marlin]

yea that too
u can turn them into your own weapon

[austere spoke]

I guess I'm leaving, since I REALLY don't want to get spoiled and I'm risking it enough. Anyone could come in and casually say something about a part of the game I haven't experienced

So yeah, bye @half marlin and thank you for this interaction!

Are you a Wikipedia editor for real?

[half marlin]

nah just a funny nickname

[worn bough]

After a few email tickets back and forth with Bethesda. It was determined that my save is corrupted and that I'm screwed and have to start over. Bye bye 15+ 100 lvls

[solar spoke]

they fill out that little niche in Eternal that m mandates using the full auto mod for the combat shotgun. I like them in Eternal. I do think they're an improvement in TDA though simply by virtue of being able to make them red mist with the shield bash or the SSG

[warm ibex]

Don't be so certain

I don't believe your save file is corrupted, it appears to be a fixable glitxh

Of course I can't speak on the behalf of Bethesda support, but I'm not sure why this would be considered a complete save file corruption. I'm suffering these issues as well and have submitted a handful of reports

[wheat sigil]

forcing usage is bad game design

and this is coming from a full auto enjoyer (very underrated mod in terms of viability and effectiveness actually)

stone imps are way better in tda

[solar spoke]

fair, I do prefer the full auto mod myself. Probably because I love the idea of a gattling shotgun lol. That and it melts hell knights too

[wheat sigil]

i main stickies still, super good mod

and full auto is more situational

[wheat sigil]

full auto doesn't just melt hell knights, it melts everything, super high dps in close range

[solar spoke]

yeah, it's fantastic for just mincing enemies at extremely close range. I get the sticky bombs though, I prefer them for arachnatron turrets and mancubus cannons over the bolt or ballista

much better for the eye turrets too since you don't have to quick swap

[fervent maple]

You can one cycle turrets with sticky bombs + another precision weapon which is awesome

[wheat sigil]

stickies are great in combos and for dispersing ammo usage

[fervent maple]

Headshots with sticky bombs are overall more useful than the ammo you get back with full auto imo

I could spend all my ammo to kill one guy, or spend half that amount to kill everything around it and damage it substantially (if it doesn't kill)

[wheat sigil]

sorry this is objectively the correct way to play🤷‍♂️
https://youtu.be/544k6Z51jKw?si=1veA8aDQpyPSRC32

[fervent maple]

How does this look from a demon's perspective

How does any doom game look from their perspective

It's like watching a wasp juggling multiple guns bigger than itself flying around

[wheat sigil]

silent mod swaps are silent bats is so goatef

gives the best of both worlds without watching sny animations

[wheat sigil]

pretty much lol

playing from 3rd person looks wacko

[fervent maple]

This makes me want an fps hotline miami

I wanna yeet my guns at goons like in superhot

[half marlin]

what if my aim sucks in unimprovable way

[wheat sigil]

i don't see what effect that has on using stickies and full auto

[half marlin]

using it like in the vid

[wheat sigil]

yeah but bad aim has rhe same effect on everything in the game

so everything just becomes less efficient

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-gif-22572243

[warm ibex]

I want official 3rd person mode

for eternal and tda. that shit looks downright silly at times

[old totem]

Omg really? I wonder why the updates messed up existing save files? That sucks

[wheat sigil]

at times?😭 there's never a moment it doesn't look wacko

quick swapping while ballista boosting in the air...

[sudden arch]

I haven’t been caught up on doom lately and I’m angry about that, so I was wondering if there’s any news on dlc?

[rocky glacier]

Eventually, TDA haters will soon be gone and only the most loyal fans will stand, treating it as an "Underrated Masterpiece" and defame everyone that says otherwise. Just like Doom Eternal

[green estuary]

I think tag1 will get more appreciation as time goes on
hopefully tag2 will continue to get hate though because it deserves it

[rocky glacier]

I just noticed now how I misspelled TDA with TAG 😭

[green estuary]

lmao

doom the ancient god ages

[hearty edge]

The BFG is like 1 meter tall

[hearty edge]

Tag 1 is good

Bloodswamps is goated

The thing that really drags it down for me is urdak 2 or however it's called

And it's still good nonetheless

Alr chat hear me out

After doom the dark ages they should do doom the light ages where after ahzrak and the rest of the hell army got killed the sentinels go into some kind of renaissance where argent energy is more easily produced and they and the maykrs prosper

But then after something with the hell priests surge and argent energy needs to be redirected to the army once again the maykrs get mad bc they also need argent energy to keep the Khan maykr alive

The slayer shows up and everything is good once again but the tensions grow stronger for doom the sentinel war where you know the sentinel war happens and there's marauders and the slayer gets trapped in the coffin and allat shi

[limpid kraken]

glory kills were originally serious sam idea and doom devs liked it and put it in their game

[frail bloom]

Ye the cycle will continue

2030:

man Doom: Civil war looks rlly bad why strory!!!!! Wut is this Murvel??!!

Jokes aside ye that'll happen

[hearty edge]

Honestly the last unanimously loved doom game was 1993

And 2016 to some extent

Still they're all in my like top 7 games oat

And yes I know there are 7 doom games in total

Except doom vfr I have not played doom vfr and won't be playing it anytime soon as I don't have a VR headset

[strong moth]

I seriously think that there exists far too much expectation of what a Doom game “is” or “should be” for there to ever be another unanimously loved entry.

[frail bloom]

Y that won't happen again

[harsh egret]

because they will always change things up and theres lots of people who dont like that and dont want to be open minded for new things for whatever reason

[lunar spire]

still blows my mind that people complain about the story and yet don't listen to any of the story

[lunar spire]

change is scary for people sometimes, and god forbid their favorite video game series changes.. like the 3 times it did..

[fresh swan]

CAN WE PLEASE ADD A BLACK AND PURPLE SUIT PLEASE

PLEASE IM BEGGING

[quaint acorn]

do we have any info about dlc?

[unkempt dragon]

You will know when they announce it 🤦‍♂️

[harsh egret]

Probably not for a while

[warm ibex]

yeah they actually just told everyone but you about it

and no one is allowed to tell you any info, I'm sorry bro

[rotund rune]

My game is bugged

It thinks campaign is riptorium for some reason

[warm ibex]

been happening to a lot of folks, I'm sure they're working on a fix

[rotund rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1391500918197063683/1419518112658882670/rn_image_picker_lib_temp_480c1c0f-a794-43d7-a3dc-4ce36c679e11.jpg?ex=68d20cc3&is=68d0bb43&hm=ab28cc0db88d7c4548564aa939272adf5a1f0bde7d8d6e46f5dbbf9bf230f7f3&

I lost all my extra lives bcs I didn't want to restart the level lol

[rotund rune]

Is it recent? I played very few days ago and it wasn't happening

[rotund rune]

How many months has the game been out? Weird how we still have nothing about it yet

[rotund rune]

Weird it's save dependent. I just tried my second save and it was normal

[warm ibex]

On a real note, very little DLC info has been confirmed. We know that it won't end with the death of Valen's son or with the Slayer being trapped in the sarcophagus prior to 2016's opening. Information from the Slayer's Testaments, TDA's ending and a potential hint from game director Hugo Martin has lead many to theorize that the DLC will focus on Doomguy hunting down Hell Lords.

We also have this official concept art of frozen hell https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/892238793174818848/1419519692074389504/Dark_Ages_DLC_Concept_Art_Frozen_Hell.png?ex=68d20e3b&is=68d0bcbb&hm=48717d4315842ef1a87ff3802feeeeaf39a72e875ce43a65d8fb803fe94cc90e

[warm ibex]

Eh not that strange. Game has been out for four months now and they're releasing the campaign expansion in one go instead of splitting it into parts. That means longer overall dev time and a lengthier wait before the full reveal and launch

Also worth noting that the full game was announced only eleven months before launch and there was a seven month gap between the reveal and second trailer/info drop, so I'd imagine the DLC will also be revealed a lot closer to its launch

[rotund rune]

Makes sense

I totally forgot we'll have a single DLC

[warm ibex]

also worth noting that TDA and Indiana Jones (both titles published by Bethesda) followed a very similar pre-launch marketing strategy, especially in regards to timing. There was a six month gap between Indiana Jones' release and the official DLC reveal, so I'd expect something similar with TDA

That would mean a mid November DLC reveal if they followed the exact timing, however it's entirely possible that they wait for The Game Awards in December instead

[rotund rune]

I played the game so much at launch

It really feels like the game is out for 6+ months lol

Time flies fast

[quaint acorn]

ah ok thanks, I don’t know what I did wrong to upset them

[delicate grotto]

id has successfully redefined Doom since Doom 3’s inclusion, whilst keeping its core principals well intact. I hope they continue to expand the franchise in this direction. I’m glad there isn’t a “definitive” best.

[warm ibex]

I did share everything we really know about the DLC afterwards, in case you missed it

[hearty edge]

chat who can buy me an rtx5080 doom edition bundle

[quiet geyser]

I started an Ultra-Nightmare playthrough and was wondering if you also get the conqueror skin for the mech and Serrat too

[green estuary]

Yep

[quiet geyser]

I just bought myself the controller (I desperately needed one, so it was actually the best decision, even though I use the ripatorium skin)

I love the design of the base controller (not the elite series 2)

[hearty edge]

i suppose so

you also get them if you lower the sliders

at the cost of the ugly m

and your dignity

[green estuary]

Shhh

[quiet geyser]

I am cheesing the UN because it's fun

[hearty edge]

yah the controller is fire

[quiet geyser]

I like doing 1000% damage

[hearty edge]

how

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-gif-6891886407904187638

[quiet geyser]

I will do pandemonium with base sliders

[hearty edge]

acceptable

[quiet geyser]

the ripatorium skin is straight up fire

[radiant dirge]

[quiet geyser]

the purple and gold is amazing

[hearty edge]

although you should do 500% damage to slayer at 200% game speed and minimum parry window/j

[quiet geyser]

that'd be funny

and irritating

I'm fairly sure I missed out on the bethesda email bundle promo

[hearty edge]

it's possible but i would never try it in pandemonium or un

[quiet geyser]

I hate that they removed extra life mode

[hearty edge]

yea

like dude at least let me use 1 life sigil to restart the checkpoint before restarting the whole level

[quiet geyser]

the main weapon I use is the SSG when I play 1000%

[hearty edge]

i've died like 5 times on the pinky leader on hebeth

[quiet geyser]

damn

xbox cloud gaming is the goat because it allows playing next-gen games on last-gen consoles

[hearty edge]

granted it's also because of lag and my laptop running the game at 30fps on minimum settings but eh

[quiet geyser]

I get lag spikes here and there

[hearty edge]

although around like after the level where you get the ssg i do get more constant 50-60 fps

[quiet geyser]

chapter 6?

[hearty edge]

heck even the ripartorium runs at 50-60

[hearty edge]

yea that

[quiet geyser]

IIRC it's Siege Part 1

[hearty edge]

oh on that case siege part 2

part 1 does get a bit laggy at times

but i can understand that as it's one of the largest levels in the game

[silver pawn]

When’s the patch?

[naive wigeon]

no like u used to be able to play without raytracing until they patched it

[cyan niche]

dry chat 😭

[silver pawn]

They patched so it won't let us?

[naive wigeon]

ya

[snow silo]

How good is dark ages?

Im thinking on buying it

[random sand]

very good. best doom imo

[snow silo]

Better than Eternal ?

[random sand]

up to preference but i believe so yeah

[snow silo]

I heard from my brother that plays it he said theres no Glory Kills anymore

So I thought it would be kind of mid without that

[random sand]

there are, but they have been toned down a bit since there are way more enemies in arenas now

[snow silo]

Oh okay

[random sand]

you can still do them but only by jumping at the enemy. doing it normally just does a melee attack to finish them off

[snow silo]

Oh so its not as brutal as it it in Eternal

[random sand]

it is, but just less of 'em. i mean, the glory kill for the mancubus has you use the shield saw to cut it in half 😭

[snow silo]

Jesus that sounds amazing

[random sand]

yuuup

alot of 'em have you using the shield saw to either cut them in half or decapitate them

[snow silo]

Well atleast the Glory Kills are still in the game but like not as many ig

What would you rate the Campaign?

[random sand]

trust me, that's a good thing. i have tried using glory kills on all demons and it's awful

[random sand]

solid. 8.5/10. more story driven. more cutscenes and all that. big fan. story is still just a doom story but pretty solid

[snow silo]

Hmmmm okay Im probably going to buy it

It does look good like the Graphics and stuff

[random sand]

i'd recommend it. it's a bit pricey but pretty good. campaign is twice as long as eternal too

[random sand]

best graphics in a doom game yet

it's my personal goty

[snow silo]

Oh dang I really did enjoy Eternal and ancient gods 1 and 2

So I hope that this one tops them

[random sand]

i believe it does. biggest complaint i've heard is with the music since Mick Gordon doesn't make it anymore but i still think it's insanely good. has a few tracks that slap hard

the menu music for tda knock the other ones out the park by a longshot

[snow silo]

Yeah like when the shadows first lengthened

[random sand]

i got that one in my playlist

best doom track out of them all right there

[snow silo]

Yeah its pretty peak

I do also like the only thing they fear is you from Eternal

[random sand]

if i were to come with complaints. the mech could've been done a little better but i have faith they'll do that with the dlc

[random sand]

a classic

[snow silo]

Yeah im get Dark Ages soon

[random sand]

you'll enjoy it. if you love doom, you'll love this. the most doom game that exists

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doom-the-dark-ages-walking-gun-gif-6971347467128966329

[snow silo]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doomguy-crucible-doom-slayer-crucible-gif-26209346

[random sand]

actually yeah the fact that there's no sword in the game is a missed oppertunity. maybe in the dlc

[wintry nexus]

Well said

I really loved the cutscenes in this game

[random sand]

a nice and welcome change. i also like the character development they're giving doom slayer. making him more interactive. it's interesting to see he was like this. actually allying with people

[wintry nexus]

Yes, he’s a lot more human. I mean the guy assaulted his Boss or wtv because he didn’t wanna shoot innocent civilians

Ppl think doom slayer is just emotionless for some reason

[random sand]

on the surface level he's a silent brute but on the inside he's a kind soul who's had a tough time. i like that they're focusing on that. he's a good guy, but he has his hatred for demons making him look scary

[wintry nexus]

The main villain was also kinda smart

“avoid the slayer”

Smartest thing a demon has said

[random sand]

ahzrak was a very good villain. calculated, cold, actually a threat and in the end, made you hate him more than anything

[wintry nexus]

Yes unlike The dark lord

He’s pretty cool but still kinda bland

Which is understandable because it IS a dlc

[random sand]

wish they'd just done more with him. for being the "creator of the multiverse" or something like that, he goes down fairly easily. and i know doom slayer is stronger atp but still. a bit more of a climax would be nice

[wintry nexus]

I feel like it would’ve been better to have him as a final boss in another doom game

Not just dlc

[random sand]

i agree with this. icon of sin works as a final boss in a game. but the dark lord should've had his own game too

the dlc could've just been samur maykr or sum

[wintry nexus]

Or perhaps a higher demon lord or whatever

[random sand]

idk any tbh. there's the high council but pretty sure they are being saved for TDA's dlc

[wintry nexus]

Yes rereading that i felt kinda dumb

But i’m VERY excited for tda’s dlc

[random sand]

same. have you seen the art shown for it?

[wintry nexus]

I think i saw concept art for A snow Realm somewhere

[random sand]

yeees. Hugo said "yes, there's snow in hell" lmao

[wintry nexus]

That is such a weird but interesting idea

[random sand]

guess hell finally froze over lmfao

[wintry nexus]

Biomes in hell would be awesome

[wintry nexus]

There’s the swamps and the snow rn right?

Or are there more I forgot about

[random sand]

also harbor of souls if you count that

[wintry nexus]

Idk about that

Because it’s basically just detention

You wait for your ship so it could take you to a part of hell

[random sand]

idk anyone else

There's regular hell, the blood swamps and this snow biome

[uneven dragon]

hell in doom is whatever they need for the aesthetics of the level

[candid aspen]

it would be pretty cool if in doom there was hell biomes

[quiet geyser]

easily a good OST

[random sand]

good? far more than that. phenomenal

[quiet geyser]

eternal's is still my favorite, but TDA has a phenomenal OST

I have the doom guy mcfarlane figure (eternal's '93 slayer outfit), and am thinking about getting the TDA one

[random sand]

they all have great soundtracks, but i think considering the tracks i listen to for 2016 is hellwalker, at doom's gate and bfg division, eternal is TOTTFIY and meathook while for TDA i listen to WTSFL, Unchained Predator, Blood Red, Unholy Siege and From The Ashes. tells you which i like most lmao

[random sand]

figure? i have an eternal slayer figure and been wanting to get the TDA one

[quiet geyser]

TOTTFIY is one of the most iconic song in the doom series along with the '93 at dooms gate

[random sand]

true. but song being iconic does not a good music make. it's good but there are better

[quiet geyser]

I also have the eternal mini slayer, and I want the TDA mini slayer and Serrat

[random sand]

my mini slayer's just sitting on my shelf. he need his younger bro with him

[quiet geyser]

I hate that they don't sell the 2016 mini slayer

[random sand]

real

[quiet geyser]

I think they sold it at one point IIRC

[random sand]

my god. i found a tda figure on google that's not too expensive (a little but managable). i kinda want it

[quiet geyser]

it also sucks that you don't get a slayer skin from the wearable helmet

[random sand]

it hurts. it said it could be picked up in stores but when i clicked on it, it said it wasn't available in stores 💔

[random sand]

i need that helmet

[quiet geyser]

I am so tempted to buy it when I get paid next week

[random sand]

4 of 'em left

[quiet geyser]

what tda figure?

I only know of the official bethesda shop one and the youtooz ones

[random sand]

just a regular 17cm action figure

[quiet geyser]

Mcfarlane is also selling THE ATLAN

[random sand]

comes with the shield, flail, ssg, skull shredder and different hand poses

[random sand]

i've seen that one. $90 on ebay

[hearty edge]

wait there are youtooz ones

[quiet geyser]

yeah

serrat and mini slayer

[wraith tundra]

mhm

[quaint acorn]

I just read it, snowy hell looks so cool

[red copper]

Am I the only one who was hyped for DTDA and preordered it

Like I ignored all the hate and bought it anyway

[fleet spruce]

same, gameplay footage showed enough of what I should be expecting from it

[red copper]

Mhm

[fleet spruce]

also soundtrack is amazing as well , this one is still my favourite track tho
https://youtu.be/RPjaaVupaB8?si=MvR6LzlndJGy1H8-

[half marlin]

you're not the only one

I not just preordered it i preordered premium edition to play earlier

didn't regret a thing

[red copper]

Same

[red copper]

Imma listen to it later lol

[red copper]

Real.

[hearty edge]

i was hyped but didnt have the money to buy it

[red copper]

Oop

[red copper]

Dang this is fire

[hearty edge]

but now i have bought it

[red copper]

Nicee

[frail bloom]

No I meant "Yeah" not "why" I mispoke

[frail bloom]

Tbf, the story isn't really the greatest thing ever, but it isn't totally incoherent like it's just retelling a part of the unholy crusades

It could've used some more comedy

Would bump it up from a 6.5-7.5

For reference, 5 is mid

6 is good

7 is great, 8 is awesome, 9 is amazing

[harsh egret]

ah lol usually ppl say y as in why

[frail bloom]

Yeah mb

[red copper]

The story is prob solid at best, its good but at the same time most of us just buy the game for the gameplay anyway

[frail bloom]

It's a good 6.5

[wheat sigil]

speak for yourself

[frail bloom]

M1 here for the kreed mayker lore

[harsh egret]

tbf most ppl that play doom dont really care about story

[wheat sigil]

i need to know his secrets to the bulk

[harsh egret]

i do but ye

[red copper]

Im just being honest as a writer

[frail bloom]

How does he do it

[wheat sigil]

probably good genetics... cheater

[frail bloom]

What's your full fledged opinion of the story as a writer? Just curious

[frail bloom]

Let's kill him

Deserves it anyway

Hurahh

Then we'll take his powers

No?

Ok stay skinny

[hearty edge]

i did see all of the cutscenes but eh

[red copper]

Hmm that’s a good question, I haven’t read much of dark ages story but based off of doom eternal and 2016 lore I think the story is solid and I love it but I feel like some areas can be improved. But tbh I don’t really write stories like doom so idk if I’d be in a place to judge it.

[hearty edge]

it's solid as you said

nothing gow or tlou level by a lot

[red copper]

My stories are more like characters struggle and stuff like that not god slayer fighting literal gods and winning easily

[frail bloom]

6.5 is solid right

This is in relation to all media

[red copper]

Mhm

[red copper]

Yeah, I wanna play gow

[frail bloom]

Ah so it builds off the main story well

2016's was the best for me

Substance over style

[red copper]

Yeah I liked 2016

[frail bloom]

Hopefully they learn that in the dlc

And stop aura farming

90% of the story is aura farming

[red copper]

Is it just me or I thought the original doom 4 idea had potential

[frail bloom]

Eh

[red copper]

Like humans struggling to fight demons on earth

[frail bloom]

The idea?

Yes

But the demon designs and overall style of the game looked really drab

Waaaayy too cinematic

Which clearly affected the gameplay

As far as demos go

No idea how the final product would look

[red copper]

If I was making that doom game I’d probably tweak the designs of the demons and make them more terrifying or smth.

That doesn’t sound like doom ngl except if you randomly mention doom 3

[hearty edge]

i'd say so

5 is like average

below 4 is kinda bad

[red copper]

99% of the times when I’m writing I make the protagonist a character that struggles a lot, deals with a lot of pain, and also has a high chance to die. (Most of the time my protagonist dies) And also I like making the villain terrifying for a while.

[hearty edge]

i feel they could still use the doom 4 idea as a sort of spin off following the arc before doom eternal

[hearty edge]

and even still the marine didn't really struggle all that much

ofc he did more than doomguy but he was still op

[red copper]

Right

[red copper]

Doom 4 could probably be a spin off of what’s happening on earth during eternal maybe

[hearty edge]

ya

[half marlin]

I've confused ravager with pulverizer last time I asked it so once again lol
Which weapon is more damaging: ravager or accelerator?

both fully upgraded with overdrive

[hearty edge]

hamon overdrive

i prefer the accelerator but honestly i dont use the ravager as much

[red copper]

Jojo reference?

https://tenor.com/view/hamon-punch-jojo-sunlight-yellow-overdrive-punch-jjba-gif-14599431

[hearty edge]

yes

https://tenor.com/view/bright-light-flowing-hair-jojos-bizarre-adventure-anime-gif-17398510

[fervent maple]

Afaik the Accelerator has higher dps overall

But I'm not sure if it's because it does more damage or if enemies resist the Ravager

Because against normal mobs I find more success with the Ravager

But against super heavies and bosses the Accelerator is a lot better

[hearty edge]

i'd suppose it's because it has more damage overtime r smth

and the heat blast does work

[fervent maple]

Mega cell technically has higher dps

Since overload enhances the damage from feedback

Heatblast consumes the cell and does a good bit of damage but you have to build up the cell again

[hearty edge]

whats mega cell

[fervent maple]

So you don't get the enhanced feedback damage

[half marlin]

hmmmm alright
thanks for the info

[fervent maple]

The alternate upgrade that you choose in tier 3, the one that isn't heatblast

[fervent maple]

I wouldn't recommend using the Accelerator against the last couple bosses though, use the Chainshot or Impaler against them

[hearty edge]

ah

idk which one it is bc i've only used heat blast

[hearty edge]

yea i feel the impaler is the best for enhanced crack

[fervent maple]

It's a lot better statistically but I don't think it's as fun

[fervent maple]

For sure

The impaler can carry you through the entire game once you get it, way harder than a lot of other weapons (if not all of them)

I found an equal amount of success with the Chainshot but no headshot damage

[half marlin]

I used cycler to give him shock effect and then impaler and dreadmace

[hearty edge]

against asscrack and the bitch i feel the ssg does work well but it's still not as good

[fervent maple]

The sole enemy I've had issues with using the impaler is the cacodemon

I don't think it even has a head weakpoint

I thought the eye counted but it never marked as a headshot for me

[hearty edge]

in the ripartorium i still mostly use the ssg due to the large damage up close and heating up shields but it's still probably the best weapon

[hearty edge]

same

although i did still use it before the fix bc the ssg was ass

[fervent maple]

That's a decent idea, I worry that you might get caught out during the swap animation, but I'm still thinking with a 1.0 mindset

[fervent maple]

I've had the most success with the Pulverizer and Ground Fissure

It's the perfect place for it

[hearty edge]

yea

although i also find heaven splitter to be great

the pulverizer might be good for clearing fodder i might try it

[half marlin]

and arachnotrons?
at least I didn't notice headshot hitmarker when shooting them in both "head" and turret

[fervent maple]

Arachnotrons are just so weak that they die to everything super fast

[hearty edge]

but honestly i think i have pressed the 4 key like 5 times during my playtroughs

[half marlin]

mostly switch when he's dazed from dreadmace hit

[fervent maple]

I really hate them

[hearty edge]

shield bash + ssg

and still like 3 impaler shots do the trick

[fervent maple]

I think I've pressed it once, I've only played on kbm one time

[half marlin]

I hate all hitscan enemies
cyberdemons are bearable tho but shield chaingunners are pain
not cuz they're hard but cuz they're annoying..

[fervent maple]

I don't really like TDA on kbm for some reason

[hearty edge]

whats kbm

[half marlin]

keyboard mouse

[fervent maple]

Keyboard and mouse

[hearty edge]

ah

it will always be my go to

[fervent maple]

The first time I saw a chaingunner, I gained a newfound appreciation for frag grenades

Which I missed dearly

I know the idea for TDA was to reduce actions per minute, but some choices confuse me

Why is are the use and melee keys separate again? It was fine in Eternal

[hearty edge]

yea

and it's not like there are meele blocks or anything

[fervent maple]

Use is B on controller

Which is fine for me since I'm used to it from other games, but it's really weird

The dpad goes mostly unused too, only two commands are on it by default

[solar cairn]

I went through a new campaign on a nightmare and 150 speeds, some arenas have become really difficult, but with an imba glove just

[hearty edge]

yea frag grenades were good af

[solar cairn]

We are waiting for the master campaign

https://tenor.com/view/doom-the-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages-doomguy-gif-15980962764398322199

[hearty edge]

but it's not like a deal breaker or anything this is my favorite by far

but yea chaingunners are horrible

[frail bloom]

You still think so?

They've been toned down recently

[fervent maple]

They absolutely suck

[hearty edge]

i mean not as much but they're still annoying

specially in the campaign

in the ripartorium i dont mind them as much

[frail bloom]

I think they're manageable

[fervent maple]

Not even that they're that difficult, I just don't understand them

[half marlin]

also idk if it's a bug but it seems (at least for me) that their shots stop the shield

[fervent maple]

Why do arachnotrons have the chaingun if chaingunners exist

[hearty edge]

yea blocking consecutively slows u down

[half marlin]

I approach a wall of shieldgunners, throw the shield into them and it comes back not doing any harm to em😭

[frail bloom]

Is that your reasoning

[delicate grotto]

Because hitscan has returned from the classic games

The devs pulled heavy inspiration from the originals in terms of gameplay.

[half marlin]

and before you ask, yes, I throw it into red shields

[fervent maple]

They don't use them enough to justify them being small and spammable, and arachnotrons fill pretty much the same niche while being a bigger threat

[red copper]

Nice

[fervent maple]

It's like hell knights and battle knights, but the execution wasn't great

[fervent maple]

They don't really live up to the originals either though

[frail bloom]

Multiple enemies can have the same function but execute it differenly. Chaingunners are simply smaller and immune to a shieldbash

[fervent maple]

I don't see a chaingunner and think, "oh shit", I think, "why is this thing even here"

[frail bloom]

Which arachnotrons are not immune

Shield bash ssg is the way togo with them

[delicate grotto]

I think they’re a good way to introduce hitscan to players.

Like, “Yeah, this shit’s in this game. Have fun!”

Helps teach players that their shield can be used as a defensive tool for high-pressure enemies.

[wheat sigil]

cause hitscan is fun or sum

[frail bloom]

But for chaingunners, more careful play is required

[fervent maple]

I get that, it makes sense, I just think they're redundant in a way that stands out

[fervent maple]

I'm not gonna lie, I deal with them the exact same way I deal with literally everything

[frail bloom]

Which is?

[fervent maple]

Shield bash, ssg, shield throw if not dead

It always works

[frail bloom]

Why are you shield bashing

[fervent maple]

Or chainshot at a distance

[frail bloom]

On a shield

[fervent maple]

Because it's nearly spammable and I use the shield bash the same way I use the meathook, it has never given me problems

[frail bloom]

Usually you heat up the armor first and then throw the shield

Shield bashing does nothing on armor

[delicate grotto]

I suppose they could’ve improved their placements in the campaign, to improve their presence. I’m not 100% certain but I think they’ve got greater range and accuracy over Arachnotrons.

[fervent maple]

It's not for the damage, it's for the mobility

[frail bloom]

I getchu

[fervent maple]

Chaingunners tend to be out of the way

[frail bloom]

But it doesn't stun them

[fervent maple]

That would make sense

[frail bloom]

In the ripatorium they're very mean

[fervent maple]

I wouldn't know for the ripatorium, since I've never actually fought one there

[frail bloom]

Love their placement in level 5 in the final arena

[fervent maple]

I think once, and it was somewhere in a corner

[frail bloom]

There's like 3 spread out

While fighting a vagary and some mancs and helknignts

[fervent maple]

Yeah that's my favorite use of them, that's the kind of usage I wanna see out of a chaingunner

[frail bloom]

Pretty hard arena

[delicate grotto]

Yeah that was a good usage of them

[wheat sigil]

shield bashing in means less travel tkme for the shield, which means less hits

[frail bloom]

Ye I get it

[solar cairn]

Stream soon

[hearty edge]

Doom

[fervent maple]

The

[half marlin]

Dark

[delicate grotto]

Ages

[frail bloom]

Finally some dark ages music was used in an animation vid

Check out ancient titan war by Slick

Goated animator

[wintry nexus]

Oh yeah I know him

Godzilla animations right?

I use the same animation app

[vocal dock]

Soooo.. multiplayer, is that on the horizon??

[wintry nexus]

Don’t think so

The reason why there’s no multiplayer in tda is because the devs wanna focus on the main campaign

[frail bloom]

Yup

[vocal dock]

That’s an excuse they seem to be running with. But I don’t buy it. It ought to be so simple.. Doomers want an arena shooter and that should not take too much when base game is already there. Oh well back to Doom 2016 for me, hopefully we get a 10 year anniversary update of some sorts. Capture the Flag would be nice and a proper ranking board.

[wintry nexus]

He’s pretty good

Real good

[frail bloom]

Like 2% of ppl played 2016's multiplayer, and less played battlemode, most played for the achievements, you are not the majority, so don't expect your voice to be heard

It's just how it is

The campaign is the bread and butter

[wintry nexus]

Yes

The battlemode was

Interesting

😬

[sudden stump]

quake champions already exists, the vets just made it too miserable for newbies to learn it

[frail bloom]

Like why would they waste resources on a mode that has brought them nothing 10 years prior

The data speaks for itself

The reviews are there

[vocal dock]

Eternal’s MP was crap that I will agree with. Buy 2016’s MP is one of the best tyere is as far as gameplay and mechanics go. It’s just right

[frail bloom]

I ain't disagreeing, but NO ONE PLAYED IT

Blame the people

Not the dev's

They are "In-Demand software"

ID

[wintry nexus]

That’s crazy

[frail bloom]

Who knows Mr. Hammerhans, maybe next game now that some ppl were bummed out with no multiplayer

[vocal dock]

Sometimes things need a little forcing from the devs. Like give us a damn leaderboard, some social functions to interact with one another. Basic stuff to keep people interested other than point and shoot

[frail bloom]

Leaderboards were compromised in eternal

All cheater scores

Expect the same going forward

[vocal dock]

Make the game uncheatable

[sudden stump]

I remember when the hype for 2016 just died when the multiplayer beta dropped... game got saved last minute by that Nvidia footage of the campaign lol

[frail bloom]

Oh wait social functions? They are releasing the ability to share ripatorium presets in some community tab

So you can play other ppl's arena sets

[wintry nexus]

Oof I’m thankful the campaign footage dropped

[sudden stump]

people were like "wait it's actually fast"

[frail bloom]

Lmao

Ye hope was down

[vocal dock]

The campaign is good but killing npc’s is only so fun for awhile..

[frail bloom]

That is the entirety of doom

Seriously

[grim charm]

More like the GLITCH AGES ha!1!

[frail bloom]

Preach brother

[wintry nexus]

Ok dude

[frail bloom]

Lol

[vocal dock]

All I am saying is tye MP was/is a beta version and never got past that. Just wish they sort it out. Quake champions never felt “right” as far as mechanics go in my opinion.

[frail bloom]

I would just like a co-op mode in the ripatorium

Seems the most straightforward

But again that takes a lot of resourc3s

Stuff I would rather have go in dlc or a master level campaign

[vocal dock]

They were onto something great.. just pains me to see them going from a almost fantastic state to bad(eternal) to non-existant(Dark Ages)

[frail bloom]

The data doesn't lie

Also you can just watch any review from 2016-2022 and you'll notice how mutiplayer gets shafted in the reviews

[wintry nexus]

I didn’t really know ppl were so disappointed that there was no multiplayer in tda

[frail bloom]

Well it was a minority

Who didn't speak up until it was too late

The majority didn't either

Now's yall's chance

[wintry nexus]

There wasn’t really any Feedback huh

[frail bloom]

For the next game to have smt

[grim charm]

Shafted… heh…

[wintry nexus]

Ok dude

[grim charm]

Ultrakill… heh…

[wintry nexus]

Yes

I like Ultrakill

[grim charm]

Shakespeareans

Upanishads

Heh…. Quantifiable

[wintry nexus]

Are you okay?

[frail bloom]

Yeah are you

[wintry nexus]

I don’t think he’s ok

[unkempt dragon]

[wintry nexus]

im so sleepy gn everyone😴

[rotund rune]

Is the skull crusher still good?

I'm finding very little use for it recently

It seems like SSG is at its full glory again

[solar cairn]

++

The campaign from the master levels would be perfect

[frail bloom]

No lol

[solar cairn]

I use ssg + inpaler + rocket launcher

A little less often a cycler and a skull crasher

Skull crusher is good for quick kill in the arena when the crowd spawns, plus it has an improvement to accelerate movement

You can kill the crowd and escape quickly from the same Komodo or baron

[half marlin]

I use pulverizer for big crowds
Cuz most of the time I try to use launchers I end up hurting myself lol

[rotund rune]

As I thought. What happened besides the boss and lizard nerfs to make it bad?

[rotund rune]

You're talking about the yellow skull crusher?

[frail bloom]

It's not bad, it's just miiiiddd

So mid

[half marlin]

Ion see em as bad
Like, as I said, pulverizer for crowds
As for ravager I'll need more testing

[rotund rune]

Impaler seems so bad nowadays. You need to hit HS constantly as the body damage was reduced and you also can't get boosted shots by throwing the shield at the body of a big demon

[half marlin]

(160 hours and still need more testing)

[rotund rune]

Ravager was S tier weapon when this game came (according to people)

[half marlin]

first remark is bearable, second one sucks tho

[rotund rune]

I find it good against a huge crowd of Mancubus, but we only have those in the BFC arena lol

[rotund rune]

Wdym 1st and 2nd remark?

[half marlin]

I feel bad for not using ravager on release 😭
weapons in this game grow up on you as you play

[rotund rune]

A big pity they made it bad against Komodos

[half marlin]

reduced body dmg; can't charge from shield throw

[solar cairn]

++

[solar cairn]

Yes, but I usually make a combo of a rocket + a shield throw, while the camp lasts, then a shot from ssg + impaler

[rotund rune]

Yeah makes the weapon a lot more niche to use. I just use it against Azrack, big shield guy I forgot the name and the Cyberdemon

And still it's a waste because I can just kill those much faster with my bare hands using melee

Except azrack, impaler is still the best weapon against him

Because we built mace charge constantly and good HS damage

[rotund rune]

Crazy how people used to call the yellow one mid at launch and the blue one S tier, nowadays it's inverted lol

I mean the yellow one didn't change much, just the ravager that got worse

[solar cairn]

At my level of difficulty, acceleration is critically important

[rotund rune]

The accelerator you mean? The plasma weapon?

[half marlin]

speed bonus from pulverizer

[rotund rune]

Oh ok

Yeah that's very good

[green estuary]

it didn't get that much worse, bosses/komodos just take reduced damage from it

[solar cairn]

I always confuse him and skull crusher

[green estuary]

before, the ravager melted everything, now it melts almost everything

[half marlin]

nah it's actually
skull crusher is a weapon type

pulverizer is yellow one
ravager blue

[topaz oasis]

What doesnt it melt currently?

[half marlin]

super heavies I believe

or as katsu said, bosses like leaders and champions and komodo

so against baron and cyberdemons it still melts?

[green estuary]

It should
Not 100% sure because I’m not at my machine rn

Although the patch notes should say what all enemies got mitigation against it
yeah, it's just komodos and the bosses

[topaz oasis]

Wait, so certain enemies take less damage from certain weapons???

[green estuary]

yeah unfortunately that's a thing

[topaz oasis]

How is one supposed to figure that out tho

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

great question

like for example cyberdemons take mega damage from the rocket launcher, but there's no place in the game that tells you

[solar cairn]

Is there a complete list of which demon gets more/less?

[green estuary]

I lowk need to make a balance mod that tweaks the damage values so that every weapon deals consistent damage against all enemies

[topaz oasis]

In eternal I more or less get it, because the codex entries hint at you which weapons are effective against certain demons, but dank ages doesnt have anything like that in the codex

[green estuary]

well the eternal codex also doesn't tell you 90% of it lol

[topaz oasis]

IKR

But it tries

[green estuary]

the only thing it's really useful for is that pinkies/cyber mancs/doom hunters are vulnerable to blood punches

[rotund rune]

As I thought. Well it's bad enough because those are exactly the best use of this gun

[green estuary]

the hell knight notes:
"chaingun will easily falter this demon"
like bruh the chaingun falters everything tfym

and they don't even tell us that hell knights take mega damage from micromissiles

that shit would have been so helpful to know in the early game

[rotund rune]

Yes. Didn't you know? Knights take less damage from ssg for example

[green estuary]

nah

[rotund rune]

But against those better just parry and use melee, they'll be dead before the weapon turns blue. I don't like ravage with enemies you need to parry constantly

[topaz oasis]

How do heck knights take less damage fron SSG if it already one-shots them at close range

[green estuary]

well the ssg used to one-shot gib them
now it only one-shot dazes them

[rotund rune]

Reading all their patch notes lol unfortunately

[rotund rune]

It puts them at glory kill state, it used to delete them

[green estuary]

patch notes miss 90% of the info
because they only tell you what's been changed, not what's been there from the start

[rotund rune]

I mean do you think some demons took less damage from other weapons since the start?

[green estuary]

I don't think so, I know so

[rotund rune]

I mean what's the matter, the important is our perception lol

[half marlin]

WHAT

260 hours
and i didn't know that...

[rotund rune]

The first version of the game is the standard, the important is to know what changed after.

[green estuary]

yep
hell knights die quicker than whiplashes to micromissiles

[rotund rune]

Talking about eternal?

[green estuary]

even though they have 2500 hp to the snek's 2000 hp

[rotund rune]

Eternal or tda?

[green estuary]

tda
in eternal, cyberdemons and barons actually have damage resistance against lock on burst

tbh archviles should also have lock on burst resistance
2 lobs and a grenade is way too easy

[topaz oasis]

tbh archviles should be removed from the game

Fuck those guys

[rotund rune]

What about the grenade launcher?

[topaz oasis]

Let me kill them with a single SSG round, I wouldnt mind

[green estuary]

no idea lmao
haven't ever checked its decl files because I never use it

[frail bloom]

Aren't micro missiles also not affected by damage resistance on posessed enemies?

[green estuary]

uhhhh

that I don't know

but I do know that lock on burst spam is the fastest way to kill possessed anything

[rotund rune]

The thing with cyber demons is that melee (even gauntlet) deletes them so easily it's pointless wasting any ammo on them

[frail bloom]

I remember ppl really hyping up micro missiles against posessed

[frail bloom]

@wheat sigil Oh nerdy one, is this true🙏

[green estuary]

I mean
there's no such thing as ammo waste in TDA if we're being honest

[rotund rune]

I wouldn't be able to play this game with the flail

[topaz oasis]

You forgor carcasses

[rotund rune]

Indeed, it's just that it's A LOT more effective to just punch them to death in this game

[green estuary]

carcasses aren't vulnerable to it
they just don't have that much HP

but yeah I guess their shields can't block the bp

although the only time I BP carcasses is when I'm just chaining them together
you BP, glory kill repeat and you don't use any ammo

[topaz oasis]

It puts them on gk state right away, so if there are several carcasses present, you can loop bps and gks like a maniac

[green estuary]

that's what I said

[topaz oasis]

We pushed sent at the same time

You just got lucky!

[rotund rune]

I was just testing how dumb the ravager nerf to komodos is. You can just melt them in the same way with accelerator

Like wtf @green estuary

[green estuary]

well the ravager used to melt them even faster all while giving you free health drops

so the nerf was justified, though they probably went a bit too far

and the accelerator is kind of a one-trick pony
its whole schtick is absurdly high single target DPS, so it'd be a bit weird having it have both worse dps and worse survivability than another gun

[rotund rune]

I feel like they are adding punishing BS with no counter play

Just found out Aggadon Hunter got a new non parryable attack, which for some reason he also does on close range

Which is the ranged slash, but he's doing that shit with me on his face breaking my shield with nothing I can do

[green estuary]

the best counter to that is to not hug his nuts

because if you're ultra close then you get hit two times and your shield breaks

[rotund rune]

But if we don't stay close he shoots that anyway and also shoots the skulls

[green estuary]

but if you're slightly further away than that, you only get hit once and your shield is fine

[rotund rune]

So we're getting hit anyway?

[green estuary]

no, still stay close
just don't get within gauntlet range until you're ready to use melee, then take a step back

[green estuary]

you can jump over the projectile, but that's tough
so your shield normally has to take a hit yeah

[rotund rune]

So shit lmao. He also just did the skull attack with me 3m from him killing me

Like wtf

[green estuary]

the skull attack isn't that bad if you're facing him
the middle projectile isn't tracking so you can sidestep it

but the red slash means you can't just bum rush him and spam melee like you used to

[rotund rune]

Not when I'm too close

That thing just hit me in less than a second

[green estuary]

bro
he telegraphs the heck out of that attack
you definitely had way more than a second

[dusty mist]

Hello

[rotund rune]

Maybe it's me expecting him to cancel it because I got too close last second

[green estuary]

who knows
basically you have to take your time just a little bit when you're fighting agaddons now
if you try to rush him too much he'll punish you

although who knows, maybe you can kill him with feet grenades without even making him drop his shield

[sudden stump]

Aggadon Hunter is so fun to use gauntlets against

Punch combo into empowered shield bash at the right time and he can't do anything lol

[wheat sigil]

possessed hell knights take very large damage from micro missiles, and arachnotrons take pretty large damage, other than that there isn't really anything interesting afaik

[frail bloom]

Ok thank you

[solid nacelle]

I wish shield bash could be used on dazed enemies regardless of cooldown status

Same with environmental stuff

I also wish shield charging into environmental stuff didn't spend my shield charge, it doesn't even do that for dazed kills

[frail bloom]

Imagine this:

[sudden stump]

Cooldown on shield bash always feels like a half second too long to me, very powerful but there's nothing to indicate it's ready besides a quiet sound

[frail bloom]

You throw your shield, and if you shoot at it midair, it deflects the shot of your gun at a demon with new effects

Banger idea I know

Basically ultrakill mechanic but it applies better here

[mint venture]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doom-the-dark-ages-zombie-zombie-doom-slayer-gif-6392204321683655363

[spice drum]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-helldivers-2-salute-march-parade-gif-14892324247558431183

[rotund rune]

I thought we'd get this skin in the first updates after launch, insanity we didn't

[frail bloom]

Man I am cooking

[quiet geyser]

how the hell

I am playing on UN, and I am softlocked and can't kill a tentacle on mission 14 (spire of nerathul)

and it's the third time I reset the mission

[topaz oasis]

Dark ages is probably still a couple patches away from being completely playable on UN

On my UN run I also got softlocked in the final arena of command station

The tyrant that is supposed to spawn at the very end fell asleep and decided not to spawn or something and I was forced to replay the entire level again

And I almost got killed several times in belly of the beast because the ground in that level is buggy and sometimes it doesnt allow you to sprint

Luckily I survived all those times at 5 HP and still was able to complete my run

But had I lost my run to bullshit like that, I would've deleted the game due to the sheer amount of salt I would've produced

[hearty edge]

i swear the game has sum shi that always saves you by keeping ur hp at 5

it's happened to me like a lot

always 5hp

[warm ibex]

It's called "brink of death" and only a handful of attacks can bypass it

[hearty edge]

that makes sense

and i also suppose that if ur health is low enough you also just die

[quiet geyser]

I think the issue was that I completely ignored the cacodemon after I got back from the wraithstone that’s off the main arena

[random sand]

i lost UN once during the ahzrak fight. safe to say i gave my desk a good beating after that

i think the gods gave me mercy after that since the next attempt, i did it

[random quail]

anyone also getting melee and bfg lockouts in riaptorium at times when you most need it?

[exotic scarab]

Peakdivers

[languid granite]

hot take: the ending for the doom tda campaign sucked

i think it should of ended with me kissing doom slayer after his hard work

that's just me though

[uneven dragon]

[wintry nexus]

Huh

[topaz oasis]

[grizzled thicket]

[red peak]

Is this skin ever coming back? I missed it :/ https://youtube.com/shorts/8hTpuXpTNd8?si=mzDI7X66JkOr1K3Y

[half marlin]

wym coming back

it's in game

[red peak]

Nah really? I mean will I be able to get it again?

[stiff bane]

and surprisngly lore accurate

[red peak]

Frr

[unreal lagoon]

fellas what's the name of the floating enemies which make it rain purple orbs on you

and they're sometimes protected by a shield

and they can teleport short distances across the map

[solid nacelle]

Acolytes

[unreal lagoon]

Thanks

[red peak]

Dont they usually come in pairs? And you have to kill the unsheilded one to get to the sheilded one?

[solid nacelle]

They spawn in by themselves, but if left alone they'll spawn a clone and shield itself

[stiff bane]

a pest

[split gate]

Oof size large, you’ll get em next time boss

[random sand]

well, yeah i did lmao

[red peak]

Ohhh, ok cool

[covert goblet]

I'm gonna be honest, when playing TDA the first time, I legit thought it was gonna end after with mission "final battle," and we'd go after Azhrak in DLC or something.

I'm SO DAMN GLAD that assumption was wrong.

[red peak]

Lol then what would the last level be?

[covert goblet]

... "final battle"

[red peak]

Ik but it showed a level after that

[covert goblet]

Oh, you mean the level select screen.
Nah, I played through dark ages in one go first time. 6 hours was worth it.

[red peak]

Oh

[frail bloom]

You took 6 hrs?

Bro blew by everything

[red peak]

Well when you beat each level it shows the level after that, unless you just skip to the next level without pausing and didnt see it

[covert goblet]

I was excited, okay.
My mindset is usually "get all collectables first time," but I was so excited for TDA I missed some first time. (I went back after for them)

[frail bloom]

Alr well you had fun tho

[covert goblet]

Definitely.

[hearty edge]

i took like 35

i got 100% in every level

[covert goblet]

Nice.

[hearty edge]

siege 1 took me like 3 hours

[covert goblet]

The one level I struggled for 100% on was mainly "belly of the beast."

That one bonus area/challenge (the one with the powered up cyberdemon) was HELL

[hearty edge]

the enfoncerer soldier is the biggest menace fr

although honestly i liked that area

still haven't played on pandemonium or un so idk the pain it would be there but on nightmare it was cool

[green estuary]

belly of the beast was originally the hardest level in the game by far

although if you count the optional encounters in resurrection post-update 2 they're pretty close

[solid nacelle]

They really need to fix this fucking shield dawg

I'm not fully sure how it works but it seems that if I press my shield input when I'm taking damage, at a very specific moment, I lose my ability to shield for the moment, and not only that, after a few seconds the game forcibly makes you raise your shield despite no input being pressed and it just completely fucks you over

Why the fuck is it like this

[green estuary]

is that a new bug?

haven't played the game in a couple weeks

[solid nacelle]

It's been like this for a while

Really started noticing it I think after update 2

[topaz oasis]

I can confirm this

There is some serious jank going on with the shield at times

The other day I got guardbroken and completely lost my ability to block or throw the shield again

[red peak]

Ive noticed something similar where it my sheild is stuck being up and i cant make it go back down without breaking it

[topaz oasis]

Had to reload checkpoint

[topaz oasis]

This has happened to me too

[red peak]

My low reaction time must me saving me from blocking at whatever moment is causing yall's glitches lol

[rocky vector]

doom the dark ages

[wheat sigil]

no

[rocky vector]

https://tenor.com/view/scott-the-woz-disc-rot-damage-disc-disc-destruction-gif-2977207146776433696

[topaz oasis]

Have you guys noticed there is also some kind of input buffering at play when using certain weapons like chainshot? Like you fire chainshot, let go of the trigger, press block and your character magically goes for a shield bash when you just wanted to block and you get killed because of it

[rocky vector]

Same with the super shotty i feel like

[wheat sigil]

buffering in this game is so backwards

[topaz oasis]

I feel it also happens with SSG, yeah

[rocky vector]

I wanted to use that weapon for UN but it made it so horrible for using the shield

I think they fixed it now?

[wheat sigil]

guh, i've already been on eternal for over 40 min😭 studying slowly going out the window...

[wheat sigil]

yea

[topaz oasis]

Studying the enemy placement of those custom master levels isnt gonna be done on its own, you know?

[wheat sigil]

that makes me kinda sad... i basically know all the spawns of all the master levels i find somewhat challenging way too good😭

[red peak]

Tbf the game wasnt released too long ago, and updates are still coming out

[wheat sigil]

yea i should get on tda instead of eternal lol

[hearty edge]

yea resurrection is way harder now

but i'd still give it to belly of the beast

[green estuary]

this is the way

put down the crack

[hearty edge]

hasnt really happened to me a lot

buy maybe

[wheat sigil]

need to git gud first

[green estuary]

this is the addicting part about eternal
you literally can never be gud enough

[topaz oasis]

I wish I could play more than the same 4 master levels in console eternal

[green estuary]

do you not have world spear?

(not gonna ask about cultist base because it's barely a master level)

[wheat sigil]

i'd assume they didn't count cultist base or arc

which is fairr

[green estuary]

oh right

[half marlin]

it's interesting how despite slayer gates being inaccesible in master-levels they work completely fine

in eternal

and probably they're different? idk I don't remember vanilla slayer gates lol
at least there were maykr drones in mars core ML slayer gates

[wheat sigil]

they are exactly the same

[half marlin]

so maykr drones appear early there
if my memory doesn't trick me

I've played so many levels i'm confusing them..

[wheat sigil]

yea maykr drones are in the mars core slayer gate

past me was wild

hopped on dark ages and i don't know waht kinda sliders these are😭

[half marlin]

my sweet spot is UV sliders but with damage to demons on 75%

[green estuary]

crank that parry window down

https://tenor.com/view/dew-it-galactic-republic-palpatine-gif-21847982

[half marlin]

no

I play games to have fun

[hearty edge]

my sweet spot is nightmare with parry window on the 2nd lowest

[wheat sigil]

my sweet spot is where i experience just the right amount of cbt

[hearty edge]

whats cbt

[wheat sigil]

which seems to be my current sliders surprisingly

[half marlin]

then put them max sliders

[wintry nexus]

my sweet spot is existing

[hearty edge]

i think i remember what it was but it doesnt let me say it

[wheat sigil]

when something is difficult

[half marlin]

google it

[green estuary]

lmao

[half marlin]

and accept my apology in advance

[hearty edge]

i know it but the automod automods me

rooster and sphere torment

[wheat sigil]

holy shit tda is fun man

[wintry nexus]

Stating the obvious I see

ok that was mean sorry

[wheat sigil]

no lmao you're good

you're just also stating the obvious

[wintry nexus]

fair enough

I’m stupid and you hate me :(

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-eye-roll-annoyed-awkward-awkward-silence-gif-8519527199733944803

[wheat sigil]

whatt😭

what did i do to get this evil reputation

[grizzled thicket]

You have done nothing wrong

[grizzled thicket]

The t is torture

[half marlin]

the b is balls...

[grizzled thicket]

Yes

[wheat sigil]

balls

[storm shadow]

Anyone else gotten this glitch where the first save file turns into a ripatorium encounter? I can change the ingame music with the jukebox, and it shows me how many demons I’ve killed in the mission. But I can’t get past the cyber demon leader on the last mission cause ripatorium has no animations Ig?

[grizzled thicket]

I be balling

[half marlin]

you're not the only one it's a known thing
didn't encounter that but i've seen ppl here reporting that too

no fix yet I think?
need to wait for patch

at least I didn't see any

[hearty edge]

i know

[hearty edge]

here i said it

[grizzled thicket]

Why did jazz get his message gone

[grizzled thicket]

[wheat sigil]

my gameplay was too cracked, game crashed

[grizzled thicket]

Damn🥀

[wintry nexus]

Oh noooo

[storm shadow]

Damn thx for letting me know, hopefully they address it on tmrw stream

[red peak]

I saw that too, I wantes to got back to get some skins and toys I missed an thought it was just a feature

[storm shadow]

Changing the music is cool, but I’m soft locked from whooping azhrak cause I can’t kill the cyberdemon 😭

[red peak]

Loll

[solar spoke]

The blast+flare up combo for the combat shotgun is underrated

[warm ibex]

I feel your pain

[frail bloom]

Hugo boofin

[harsh egret]

[red peak]

Whats that?

[solar spoke]

Immediately ignites fodder demons and explodes enemies upon death when they're on fire. Turn fodder into your own little grenades

[thin zinc]

any word on hugo's dark ages stream returning this week?

[solar spoke]

Nothing saying otherwise, I'd just say it's on unless they announce it isn't

[wheat sigil]

deals like no damage and has like no splash

[solar spoke]

It's still fun though 😁

[frail bloom]

Sorry guys no strem this week

We'l be back with merch showcases next week tho!

Stay tooned for that

[hearty edge]

wat

[frail bloom]

Stay tooned for the merch showcase!!!

Aren't you exicited

Forda merch showkasuh

With rlly cool boom slayer artwork

[half marlin]

bro's drunk

[frail bloom]

No I'm parroting a vid I found funny

It doesn't exist anymore

Sad

Guy who uploaded it goes by Oronoto

It's where Hugo Boofin comes from

And the famous Emerson tung tung tung tung sahur

[red peak]

Wait i never thought about that-

Dude im getting so many tips from this server lol i love it

[wheat sigil]

yeah the flare-up upgrade on the csg is really nice

[red peak]

I use the burst fire upgrade and the explosive upgrade

But that other one sounds really nice

[wheat sigil]

don't use the explosive one😭

generally i'm not a fan of prescribing metas or whatever... but the explosion is soo weakk

unless i missed something?

[half marlin]

what's the other one?
the alternative for explosion
i forgot

[wheat sigil]

smelt, more armor drops

[half marlin]

ah

so they drop 4 armor instead of 2

[wheat sigil]

can't say i've been using alotta csg recently

costs a "lot" of time, while giving minimal rewards compared to the damage

[red peak]

Why not? Lol

[half marlin]

I use it when game spawns a group of fodders between heavy demons waves to get at least some armor
or just on fodders

[red peak]

Maybe i should start doing 5hat instead of the pulverizer

[frail bloom]

#videos message
What is he shooting at

A. An Archvile
B. His shield
C. All of the above
D. Hugo boofin

[wheat sigil]

i just go in for a flail

[solar cairn]

Who is Hugo Boofin?

[half marlin]

waste flail for fodder 🥀
will have to wait for recharge

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/hugo-martin-doom-doom-eternal-doom-2016-giga-chad-gif-8667813971741982445

[green estuary]

flail is a waste for everything unfortunately

[frail bloom]

That, is Hugo boofin

Gaze upon his majesty

As he aura farms

Fridge cig fridge cig poggers

[wheat sigil]

if you don't have a hugo ads are you really a doom fan

[frail bloom]

Hear hear

[wheat sigil]

yes when you use something with a cooldown you have to wait for the cooldown to do its cooling down before it has cooled down

[frail bloom]

5 min Hugo ads to further emphasize the might of Hugo Boofin

Fridge cig fridge cig

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/fadding-smart-gif-16536398705701482405

[frail bloom]

What abt this

[green estuary]

am I crazy, or does the pulverizer not actually increase its firerate when charged

[frail bloom]

You can shoot at your shield and it goes faster

Upon impact it releases a shockwave

[half marlin]

i mean it's not worth to waste it on fodder....

[frail bloom]

You can only do this with the rocket launcher

And grenade launcher

[frail bloom]

Wdym

It visually goes faster right?

Does the damage not increase

[green estuary]

I'll explain

I've been looking at the game code, and while I can find the fire intervals for the ravager's specific upgrades (base fire rate is once per 250 milliseconds I believe, max charge is 100 milliseconds, and slow burn lowers it to 65 milliseconds), for the life of me I cannot seem to find the same thing for the pulverizer, even though the upgrade says its fire rate is increased when charged

however, what I can find for the pulverizer is a damage decl for "excited" pulverizer projectiles, which have higher values than normal projectiles

[frail bloom]

So it does do more damage

And it visually goes faster

[green estuary]

yes, but I've been watching some pulverizer footage

the ammo doesn't seem to be consumed any faster, even though the gun animation runs faster

[frail bloom]

That's a bug I believe

I think Mayo mentioned that

Same thing happened to the cycler/accelerator?

Either one

[green estuary]

but the damage clearly feels higher, even though the fire rate is the same

[frail bloom]

The ammo count is prob bugged

[green estuary]

all I'm thinking is that the fire rate doesn't actually increase
the damage increases instead

[frail bloom]

Prob artificial yeah

[green estuary]

the base pulverizer damage is 150, while "excited" projectiles deal 220 damage

[frail bloom]

The visual aid is just a trick

So is time to kill

I mean I'd expect it like that

[green estuary]

but the ravager actually increases its fire rate

why tf wouldn't they either do the same thing with the pulverizer or make the description match the functionality

[frail bloom]

Oh

Idk you can ask Hugo

On thursday

He'll see it and know exactly what you're talking abt

He clearly programmed everything