the-dark-ages

[wicked estuary]

?

NOOOO

[queen girder]

No but u shud

[green estuary]

impaler is the closest thing to a win button in this game, so not really

[green estuary]

why is this even a bad thing
it just made the impaler even more braindead than it already was

[frail bloom]

Ye hopefully this next update is the last balance update

Iron out a couple more things

[queen girder]

I wish they brought back the 2016 master upgrade for the SSG

[frail bloom]

For this ssg?

Make it a cheatcode

[green estuary]

that would be just slightly busted

[frail bloom]

Yeah not an official feature in campaign

[warm ibex]

miniscule amount of bust

[green estuary]

killing a mancubus without even having to reload

[frail bloom]

Maybe a cheatcode

[queen girder]

At least that was my wishes during the ssg nerf

[green estuary]

even if we assume it replaces the wraithstone upgrade, that's nearly 29000 damage in a single burst

[wicked estuary]

What does the mastery quest do

[green estuary]

4 shells would nearly instakill a baron

[green estuary]

it ups the pellets shot by the ssg from 13 to 15

[wicked estuary]

No for the impaler

[green estuary]

oh
headshots refill your melee

dreadmace used to receive an absurd amount of charge from headshots, hence the nerf

[wicked estuary]

Wait was that quest it shows me after I bout it

[warm ibex]

do you mean the final upgrade or the mastery challenge? the mastery challenge gives you the gold skin and nothing else

[green estuary]

ohhh you mean the mastery

the mastery just gets you a skin, nothing more

[warm ibex]

he did say that

[wicked estuary]

Oh

[queen girder]

Another thing that I just haven't tested. How does it refill melee attacks? Like what's the portioning for each weapon?

I know that it's a portion for the dread mace, but is it like a full charge for the power gauntlet

[green estuary]

my brain is a machine that converts "mastery" into "wraithstone"

[green estuary]

can't remember tbh

[warm ibex]

that's entirely fair lol

[queen girder]

Fair

[queen girder]

I don't know. you just seem to know the most about the game here

[green estuary]

I just went through a lot of the decl files

[queen girder]

Because I run power gauntlet. Should I rock the cycler instead of the accelerator?

[wicked estuary]

What shield ability do i run

Im doing the lightning one rn

[green estuary]

probably the accelerator, but it's not that important
shock just increases damage taken by 20% and it doesn't stack with itself

so the cycler shock doesn't stack with power gauntlet shock

[queen girder]

Actually, I think it does

[queen girder]

Because when you kill, shocked enemies, you build charge

[green estuary]

enemies don't take 44% extra damage, if that's what you mean

but yeah, shocked enemies count towards the cycler's "kill shocked enemies" condition

[queen girder]

What's the damage increase for a charged cycler?

[green estuary]

the cycler damage boost isn't incredibly strong compared to the accelerator's raw dps
the main benefit of the cycler over the accelerator is the crowd control

[wicked estuary]

What is the best shield ability for the impaler

[green estuary]

try em out

I'm not gonna tell you how you should play the game

[wicked estuary]

Okk

I just want recommendations

[green estuary]

dawg there are only 4 of them

[wicked estuary]

Ik

[queen girder]

Fair

[wicked estuary]

But im broke in game and im more talking about the final upgrades

[queen girder]

Personally, I like to rock the turrent

AND THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT BOTHERS ME TO NO END.

WHY COULDN'T THE MAKE IT SO THAT I COULD CHOOSE BETWEEN SHIELD, BASH AND TURRENT

The shield bash already has a lock on function.

[green estuary]

what

[queen girder]

I wish that it wasn't a shield rune. I wish it was just like a dual upgrade for the shield itself.

[neat egret]

I just got dark ages and booting it up rn

[green estuary]

wouldn't that just be free damage

am I missing something

[queen girder]

You know how the shield bash can clear out crowds and shit. When fully charged.

[green estuary]

yeah sure

but charging shield bash only increases single target damage

[queen girder]

Not really clear out crowds, but you get the idea

[sly plover]

This latest update has bugged the crap out of doom tda

[queen girder]

I just I don't like the fact that I can only use turrent after a hell surge projectile. I want to be able to use it. MORE.

Mb i'm using voice type

[sly plover]

If I die replaying campaign missions, it acts as if im in the ripatorium

[green estuary]

just don't die lmao

[queen girder]

I just wish I could use it more often. And more manually. (of course they would have to nerf it alot. Just because it gets a new ease of access)

[sly plover]

And I cant access the mini map, codex pages or anything. My game is so bugged to the point its asking me to upgrade to premium when its the version I pre-ordered

[green estuary]

that's not even a bug, that's just a set ad that displays on the home screen

but that's tough

[sly plover]

You dont get what im saying...

[green estuary]

I do

but it's not like I can do anything about it

so the best I can say is "tough luck"

[sly plover]

How tf can I contact Hugo Martin lol

This game has never been so buggy for me

[frail bloom]

Send a ticket at bethesda.net

[sly plover]

Nah. Lol, you don't. I know there's an ad at home screen, but when I click on it, it should say "unavailable" as I've already purchased that version. But, it doesn't, it asks for 49.99$ upgrade

[frail bloom]

Someone should respond

[sly plover]

I already did

Hopefully they do

[warm ibex]

Are you certain it isn't just counting the Premium Edition and Premium Upgrade as two separate items?

And if you view the Premium Edition and Upgrade on your platform store outside of the game, does it still ask you to purchase either of them?

[smoky kraken]

Hi Everyone, anyone had issues updating Dark Ages in Battlenet? its astonishing that this is the only game that refuses to update - other ones are fine

[random sand]

Number 1 question: why the blue hell did you get the game on battlenet

[remote trellis]

Agrredd. I hate the ones that are projectile specific

I rly liked the swords tho

I maxed that shi instantly

[random sand]

i swapped them out because it was just boring parrying one projectile and watching everything die from one parry 😭

[remote trellis]

lmao yeah it was pretty op

[fluid shore]

How about we just switch out finishing move for this guy https://youtu.be/535-Bxyf_OY?si=dLhotkQyK0CJcWrg

[silver pawn]

I mean yes, I don't want beautiful high quality assets, reflections and stuffs like that, I want performance. even if we're going to wait for years to get rid of the "Ray Tracing incompatible GPU" error just to play with out it. I'd still want to.

[half marlin]

better just get a RT-capable gpu in those years..

[silver pawn]

I ain't buying any GPUs now, but if I do, I want to connect it externally on my laptop.

[violet lynx]

just a reminder that 3070 in doom eternal performs better than 5090 in trash ages looking visually better 😊

dark ages is like the chapter 5 fortnite of doom

[proud vine]

just get a "normal" (idk how you can call it) pc at that point, if you can that is

[proud vine]

4070 super here.
I can run the game with everything at max and stay at a steady 110 fps (i know it's ragebait but might aswell be informative while we are at it)

[half marlin]

ignore the fella

he keeps ragebaiting

[proud vine]

i know

[violet lynx]

its not rage bait if its true

[proud vine]

we are fishing here

[half marlin]

I can differ ragebait from constructive criticism

[proud vine]

look at all the baits

[violet lynx]

i have a 3080 which is worse then yours yet i can get 360fps in eternal maxed out, whats the reason for dark ages getting 3x less fps on a better gpu 😬

[violet lynx]

which is what im doing

[half marlin]

1 blocked message

🧐

[proud vine]

not fair! you can't use the meta move here!

[violet lynx]

🤣 , not even trying to upset anyone here

just saying somthing thats literally true

[proud vine]

jokes aside shouldn't the mods do something about this guy?

[violet lynx]

you cant be fr bro 😭

[half marlin]

when a fella starts throwing things like overusing emojis, telling "that's true tho" and using words like shit and trash, it's def not constructive criticism

[half marlin]

would be good

[proud vine]

pretty sure ragebaiting is warrants a mute of like 3 hours i think?

let me check

[half marlin]

not enough, fella'll come back mere seconds after it worns off 😭

[violet lynx]

alright heres my criticism of dark ages and what they could of done to make it great

1. no forced rt, we just proved here that a 3080 in eternal gets 3x the fps in dark ages while eternal looks visually more stunning,

2. have the chainsaw and glory kills like 2016/eternal, glory kills and chainsaw is part of the reason i love doom so dark ages taking that away made it so much worse

3. quick swapping, in dark ages they bascily removed quick swapping which sucked

[proud vine]

found it
"Trolling or Baiting
No trolling or baiting is allowed. The act of trolling is defined as something that is created for the intent to provoke conflict, shock others, or to elicit a strong negative or emotional reaction."

[violet lynx]

yeah im literally not doing that shit

[half marlin]

that fits

[silver pawn]

Even without getting rage-baited. I still got mad at why they required ray tracing-capable gpu. Also for a reason I bought the game in the first place it's simply because I'm excited wanted to play and ended up ignoring minimum requirement notes.

[proud vine]

mostly ease of development

[half marlin]

why would u ignore minimal reqs 😭

[violet lynx]

same bro, it was just super disappointing, it a decent game its just the problem 2 of the best games already exist (eternal and 2016)

[proud vine]

i think a dev at id once said that if the game didn't use raytracing it would have required atleast a couple more years of development

[silver pawn]

I'd just set all the graphic settings to the lowest anyway. to run smoother.

[violet lynx]

thats completely fine

[violet lynx]

lowest graphics in dark ages is still 3x less fps than max in eternal

and it looks significantly worse

[half marlin]

u can't keep doing that with every new game coming out hoping it'll work

[proud vine]

watch his pc become a bomb

[violet lynx]

thats the reason cyberpunk failed, if they waited 2 more years to polish it then people would of loved it from the get go, but now people just see cyberpunk as a tech demo

[proud vine]

that is not even bait at this point

[violet lynx]

besides, eternal and 2016 exist and were amazing

[silver pawn]

And laptop too.

[proud vine]

homemade bfg

[violet lynx]

what have i said that isn't true?

[vivid light]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYCkvGPFUsE

the hunter like animation cancelled and then just killed me

not that it matters but it's funny

[half marlin]

the falter worn off

[vivid light]

No I mean that it tried doing one parryable attack and swapped to another

[proud vine]

he got quick swap

[remote trellis]

That's so cap bro just pulled it out of nowhere

[half marlin]

i don't see it
it looks like normal slash attack

[proud vine]

bottom of rules

literally

[remote trellis]

Nah cap

[vivid light]

it got faltered mid-attack and did another attack probably. It tried doing the right side slash and then did left one

[remote trellis]

100% cap

[vivid light]

usually it does it in a row

[violet lynx]

@proud vine

[vivid light]

maybe I accidentally cancelled the first attack with a small falter and it went to the 2nd one

[half marlin]

aah that

could be

[proud vine]

probably

[violet lynx]

@proud vine

[remote trellis]

Everything

But nothing at the same time

[violet lynx]

reply to a messgr that isnt true then

that i said in here today

[remote trellis]

That's literally every message bro that take too much time to respond to all of it

[violet lynx]

@proud vine

[violet lynx]

i didnt say all of it

[remote trellis]

Nah bro js every message

Just trust and don't question it

[violet lynx]

no

you're rage baitinf

[remote trellis]

I'm definitely ragebating right now

[half marlin]

idk what's going on but it sounds like two titans met

[remote trellis]

Lmao

Nah he's a titan and I'm doom guy

[topaz oasis]

OMG what in tarnation?

That's insane

What game speed were you playing on?

[vivid light]

yeah falters are buggy

110%

[topaz oasis]

Oh I see

Never had an aggadon doing something like that before tho

It might be some kind of jank related to the game being above the normal speed, even if just a little

The game starts bursting at its seams when you mess with the difficulty sliders

For example if you decrease parry window, you start getting hit even if you parry correctly

[vivid light]

well no that's intentional

if you hit the parry but not in the correct window you will take reduced damage but the falter will still happen

[topaz oasis]

Hmm

I think I've gotten hit or guardbroken without even trading a falter, it's weird

But only when parry window is set to the lowest

Have you guys ever tried playing with all the sliders at max value?

I tried to do a "new game+" playthrough with everything maxed out except for game speed but I had to give up on Siege part 1

It was like impossible to beat the first leader arena lmao

[wheat sigil]

yea

[wheat sigil]

it's if you try to parry in the frame where you'd take damage from tve projectile, but also parry it
then you both take damage and parry it

feels terrible

[topaz oasis]

500% damage to player with max projectile speed + lowest resource values is a deadly mix

[wheat sigil]

for sure

[topaz oasis]

I guess it could be really fun to try a playthrough with all the sliders maxed out except for the resources one

That one I wanna leave it at the highest value instead

So you take a crapton of damage but you can also heal really fast

You're gonna be hearing the low HP beep every 5 seconds in the late game missions

[wheat sigil]

i don't like maxing daze duration and parry window, rest i'm fine with

although not together

projectile speed i'm ambivalent about

it's fun, but way too many tracking projectiles and too many net attacks

[harsh egret]

I can just imagine how fun some encounters would be on max projectile speed with some ripatorium setups when we get customizable waves

[topaz oasis]

The problem with projectile speed is that the fodder will eat you alive if you max it out, it's like going back to 2016 NM

So it can get pretty dumb, but as long as you can heal fast, it shouldnt be that much of an issue

[wheat sigil]

if it wasn't for all rhe tracking projectiles...

[topaz oasis]

Oh yeah, you gotta love it when you run into a pack of imps and all of them start doing that barrier-like projectile that tracks you and blocks all of your shots at the same time

What were they thinking when they gave imps and stalkers an attack like that

[wheat sigil]

idk man😭

going in for a flail shot on a group of fodder is annoyingly counter-productive alotta of the time

[topaz oasis]

It is, indeed

Flail is a big meme tbh, when you try to use on fodder to farm armor, you end up losing more armor than what you get

And it does like no damage to heavies and super heavies

I just use it whenever I see a faltered heavy, if it hits something else on the way, that's good, if it doesnt, that's good too and I just continue blasting with the SC to get more armor

[wheat sigil]

sc?

[topaz oasis]

Shotgun Combat

[wheat sigil]

i thought about that, but thought no one would be wack enough to say that😭

you are now mr. wacko

[topaz oasis]

Lmao sorry, there's another game that uses a similar abbreviation for Soul Core (SC) so my brain probably defaulted to that one instead of CS

[alpine pilot]

where

[topaz oasis]

In like 15 minutes

Let me have my breakfast

[vivid light]

they need to hard buff the flail

[topaz oasis]

lol yeah

I don't think a hard buff is necessary but it definitely needs an increase in damage, even if it's just a small one

the difference in damage between flail and fist/dreadmace is way too big

a 4 piece combo with fist/one hit from dreadmace is enough to kill an aggadon

with flail you need to land like 5 combos

it's like bruh, come on, what is this damage

[vivid light]

well and the armour regen is pitiful

genuinely better just to swap to combat shotgun inbetween combat

fully upgraded combat shotgun provides more armour from fodder than flail against a heavy

[half marlin]

flail is useful only to break armor when u don't have time or don't want to switch weapons
but it only comes in hand if using quick melee weapon switch mod

cuz u can switch from fist to flail, break armor and switch back to fist

it makes flail actually useful

[vivid light]

honestly shield bash ssg is way more my style

[topaz oasis]

well the other day I did a CS and Flail only run and I was also running the shield fire shockwave rune

and it was kinda OP tbh, I was constantly sitting on 150 armor

but I'm not sure if that's just a thing of the burst type CS and the shield rune

need to try flail and fire shockwave with other weapons

[half marlin]

what if u have other weapon equipped
and dont have time to switch to ssg

[topaz oasis]

but I felt the armor regen was alright

[vivid light]

Double tap to swap is so goated

So I just swap between ssg and combat shotgun when I'm swapping off other weapons

[wheat sigil]

guh

mental illness

[topaz oasis]

heeeeeeeeey

it was a fun run

the azhrak fight only took like 20 mins

[wheat sigil]

yeah... fun!

[topaz oasis]

and I was playing with damage to demons 50%

[vivid light]

Pain and suffering and for what?

[half marlin]

not what i meant but then
imagine one shot from ssg didn't break armor
second didn't too
and while u were waiting for another shot someone killed ya already
real story (i didn't get killed but still)

flail does better dmg to armor than ssg sometimes

[topaz oasis]

suffering is what I desire

not but seriously, that run was a lot of fun, check this out

[vivid light]

Oh I always make sure I have enhanced my shield with fodder beforehand

So the shield alone like puts it at 40% heated on the enemy

[glass isle]

hi

ok sorry bye

[topaz oasis]

https://www.youtube.com/live/kPLhQniNuAY?si=rNK398pKpd5zGIGI&t=8390 heck knight reunion flail and CS only

[half marlin]

what if there's no that much fodder to enhance shield

[vivid light]

Well then I swap to chainshot and parry farm

I refuse to use the flail I don't want to lose my charges

Gauntlets and mace just have way more use cases

[wheat sigil]

chainshot is so annoying

clunky ass weapon

[half marlin]

the mod to switch melee weapons lets you keep em

i mean the whole point is that flail is kinda useless without it

[vivid light]

Oh that's nice

Hope they make that mod like a default thing in an update

[topaz oasis]

check the clip, fellas
dont ignore me

[wheat sigil]

holy stonks

[vivid light]

This is what I love about TDA

[topaz oasis]

the armor regen is real

[vivid light]

You can make your own builds that are goofy like this

[topaz oasis]

you kinda can, yeh

[vivid light]

Eternal had "one" playstyle and it's fun but there's not much expression from just being insanely good at mechanics and game sense

[topaz oasis]

how come

[wheat sigil]

i'd heavily disagree

[wheat sigil]

delays

[vivid light]

Yeah it's awful honestly when you're not just sitting with a thousand enemies who will give you parries

[topaz oasis]

chainshot is the wrecking ball, right?

[vivid light]

Yeah it's that one

[topaz oasis]

I still havent learned the names of all the weapons lol

I actually have the chainshot binded to one of my buttons

great to instantly get rid of the armor on a demon

the moment I see an armored demon, I press up, break the armor, and go back to another weapon

[vivid light]

Well actually now that I think about it. It actually has but just less playstyles were viable without deliberately nerfing yourself

But then again eternal has way better like combat design in general with it not being completely 2d like TDA

[topaz oasis]

I think I have tried all weapons so far except for the second version of the pulverizer

is it good?

[wheat sigil]

honestly one of my absolute favorite parts of the eternal combat system gotta be tech, the completely unintended part lmao

insanely fun and creative interplay between it

[wheat sigil]

don't you have all weapons bound?

[vivid light]

You haven't tried the ravager?

[wheat sigil]

ravager? oh hell yea

[vivid light]

It's goated

It was genuinely the best weapon in the game at launch but got nerfed

It's still really good tho

[topaz oasis]

and how do you expect me to bind all those weapons on a controller, huh?

I could barely find the buttons for 3 of them

[wheat sigil]

oh yeah that's right

controller player

[vivid light]

Do you have a controller with extra buttons?

[topaz oasis]

and I had to compromise with not having access to BFC so I could bind my rocket launcher

which is ok honestly, who needs bfc

[topaz oasis]

PS5 controller

[vivid light]

Doesn't the ps5 edge controller have 2 back paddles?

[topaz oasis]

you think I'm rich to afford an edge controller?

[vivid light]

Oh that's why

[topaz oasis]

lmao actually I could afford it

but eh

I don't really feel a need for it

[topaz oasis]

I need to try it then

but I dont think I have enough currency to upgrade it

they really were stingy with the currency in this game, everything is like surgically measured

if you miss a single secret, you're not gonna be able to upgrade your last weapon

[vivid light]

At least they're not stingy with gold

Imagine needing all gold for it

[topaz oasis]

GOLD IS EXACTLY WHAT I DONT HAVE TO UPGRADE IT

where the hell do I find more gold

I have like, picked every single piece of gold in each level...

[frail bloom]

Ye that ain't their fault, read the min req, look up a product before you buy it. Like Sparzon said, it would take 2 or 3 more years after 5 years to release a doom game and that's waaayy too much time inbetween. Did it hurt sales? Yes, but it also eased development time and costs so it's a good tradeoff. But y'know if your pc doesn't support the game then just refund it no big deal

Just to add on, you don't have to buy a game at launch

Or preorder or whatever

Dark ages is much better now than it was at release

Bunch of crashes, music glitches, cutscenes not working, no slo mo slider

Rn it's at a good spot and will continue to get better

But yeah in conclusion always look up what exactly you're buying and plan when to buy it based on your circumstances

*if you want to

[echo shadow]

When will dlc for dark ages come out

[frail bloom]

No date on that yet

I'm guessing February

[split saddle]

Tomorrow

[slender onyx]

In 666 seconds

[gusty seal]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-2-retro-gaming-pain-elemental-gif-15567657007096176461

its comes out February 2024

[violet lynx]

the game would of been way better if they didn't add ray tracing

it feels sloppy to play

and looks ass

[harsh egret]

im surprised ur not banned or smth by now

[solid nacelle]

Literally all this guy does is rage bait every day

[frail bloom]

Maaaaan I said allat for that

[green estuary]

you gotta learn to recognize bait in the wild

[frail bloom]

This guy ain't adding nothing the discussion can we just ban him

Not like he'd care really

[unkempt dragon]

?

what's up

[green estuary]

who cares tbh
just block him if you don't want to see his messages

[frail bloom]

Oh I can do that?

Alr

Alr imma be oblivious now

Lmao

[wicked estuary]

What's a good weapon to pair with impaler?

[random sand]

pairing weapons in TDA? uhh the SSG i suppose. high damage

[wicked estuary]

Perfect

[red peak]

Honestly I dont pair weapons, i use whatever fits the situation or whatever i want

[wicked estuary]

I just wanna know what to upgrade

[red peak]

All of it

[wicked estuary]

Im broke

[red peak]

Then look for resources as you play lol

[hard thistle]

Is doom the dark ages going to be released on ps4?

[unkempt dragon]

No

It wouldn't be able to run it

[hard thistle]

Oh well I'm never going to play it then

[winged shard]

[unreal lagoon]

hey folks do i have to use shredder against armored enemies to heat their armor up or can i use any weapon?

[split saddle]

any

[long heath]

idk, im just waiting for a major announcement

[frail bloom]

@thorny yarrow
@xdoom._.slayerx
whaddya think of this I know y'all like the ost's from the Godzilla franchise

[long heath]

you can use any of them to break armor, the most efficient one to break armor is the chainball i think

[queen girder]

I'm telling you guys we need a Sentinel hammer reskin for the dreadmace

The models already in the game

[frail bloom]

Really?

Show pls

[queen girder]

I'm not talking about like a weapon and animations I'm talking about like the model of the sentinel hammer itself

[frail bloom]

Ye I know

I wanna see

[queen girder]

Give me a sec. I gotta find it.

https://youtu.be/l9MQ4OGZgHA?si=bvQ7x0CYXFZLSX9q

skip to 1:51:39
it's as clear as day

[queen girder]

There

[frail bloom]

Oh you mean Valen's hammer

[queen girder]

Yeah

[frail bloom]

Yup he's always had one

Kinda expected

[queen girder]

Exactly so the model of the Sentinel hammer is in the game

[frail bloom]

It could get its redemption arc

[queen girder]

All we need is like a re skin or something

[frail bloom]

And actually be a well intergerated mechanic

[queen girder]

And then just like slap it onto the model animations for the dread mace

I mean, the Sentinel hammer and the dread maze pretty much do similar things

[long heath]

sentinel hammer feels more broken imo

[queen girder]

I'm not trying to make this game into eternal, but I also just want the Sentinel hammer simply because I'm annoyed that we don't have any argent/wraith energy weapons

[frail bloom]

Well you can have the hammer as a seperate mechanic but make it work differently

[green estuary]

ya think? 😂

[queen girder]

I just want an energey hammer/sword.....😢

[frail bloom]

We'll see

[queen girder]

I NEEEEED ITTTT

[frail bloom]

You won't know for months

I want to know if the archvile is comin back

But I gotta wait I'm guessing 3 months for an answer

[queen girder]

Unpopular opinion, but fuck the archvile

[barren warren]

cosmic archvile that summons multiple buffed cacodemons

[queen girder]

I want the harvester to be an actual demon in the dark age of DLC

It was robbed

I feel like it would be perfect. especially with the cyclopian nature of the cosmic realm

[frail bloom]

You're missing out

Archviles are very flexible demons, yet very restrictive

And they're a pain in the ass aswell

The PERFECT demon

[queen girder]

Justice for the harvester

[frail bloom]

No no I know we need to fight him

But I rather fight the archie now

And the harvester next gam

Or both why not both

[hearty edge]

the shredder is like one of the worst for that job imo lmao

the best one is the chainshot

[frail bloom]

Hey whaddya think of this#music message

[hearty edge]

that's great dude

[frail bloom]

I turned my fav theme into a doom song

[hearty edge]

fuck the eternal arch vile

the og arch vile is my sweet baby

[frail bloom]

I'd like a classic archie in this game

[hearty edge]

and i do wanna see him back in tda

[hearty edge]

and also the heavies do leave their parts when you kill them so he could maybe be able to revive them again

[frail bloom]

Ye like this, lemme bring up the example

It's gonna be there for 5 sec and then imma delete it

#videos message

5

4

[hearty edge]

wow such great quality

[frail bloom]

3

Skip a few 0

[frail bloom]

Wait was this sarcasm

Discord does usually compress stuff

Trust it's higher quality normally

[hearty edge]

uh ye

[hearty edge]

alr

[frail bloom]

Sorry I can't tell these things well

But ye he resurrects them into orange holograms

Like Davoths demon spawns

[hearty edge]

ah thats a good idea

[frail bloom]

Ye in that way you don't have to worry abt bringing back the exact same demon back to life

Make it have less health and phase through things or smt

Any hologram can be brought back with any body part

[hearty edge]

oh no the revived ghosts from gibs strike back

[frail bloom]

Decino reference

[worn bough]

This is going to be a stupid question but I can't find the answer searching online. Since Ripatorium was released the map and lvl challenges aren't available to see under the options button(PS5). Only weapon, melee, shield and the jukebox. Normally I hit the option button and everything is there but not anymore. I have looked at all the tabs and settings. I'm just trying to go back and get 100% on all the missions and this is making it impossible. Thanks

[old totem]

I was having the same issue too! I restarted my game multiple times and was about to file a bug report when it fixed itself. My game won’t register serrats codex entry as being collected since the update either so I have to start a whole new game to get the achievement for collecting them all. I tried to file a bug report but the website sat there for 10-15 minutes just loading and submitting. Ended up giving up on that.

I’m not sure how I fixed it aside from restarting the game a bunch. I play on PS5 as well. Out of curiosity has spire of nerathul been a buggy lately for you? That’s the main level that I noticed the bugs start to appear on.

One more idea: start a new save, open the dossier on the new save, then go back to your other campaign and see if that helps? I might have done that, it’s been a few days I can’t remember exactly

[topaz oasis]

landed this beautiful combo on a Tyrant last night
https://imgur.com/a/Ii4IO4h

[hearty edge]

i wish i could play that smoothly

guess i will have to start working at my uncle's business

really the only way i can get money as a minor in my country

other than like selling stuff

[topaz oasis]

you are the Doom Slayer, you can do anything you want as long as you put enough rage on it

[hearty edge]

nabro my laptop 3050 isnt fine

[unreal lagoon]

damn really?

[random sand]

Yes. You'd wanna use the super shotgun for that. Instantly heats up armor with like one shot

[unreal lagoon]

any good options to heat armor/shields from a distance? does the plasma gun heat stuff too?

[random sand]

Impaler i suppose? The rocket launcher and chainshot works too

[unreal lagoon]

Thanks

[silver pawn]

Yesterday I tried running the game on xbox's game pass version, and the BUGSPLAT pops up, but then I ignored it and pretending I'm playing the TDA for real.

[fluid shore]

The price of this game is actually fucking outlandish

95 $ converted from local currency

What the fuck

[elfin pebble]

do i need to buy the premium edition to get 100% achievements on TDA?

[green estuary]

Nope

[elfin pebble]

okay, thank you :D
this makes it a lot easier to me

[coral blaze]

80€ is 9600 dinars :D

[silver pawn]

Please tell, whether or not that tda videos of playing without ray tracing is fake news?

[coral blaze]

Wat

[silver pawn]

You know, I tried every ways I found to launch the game, but I keep getting "GPU driver error" "Ray tracing Incompatible GPU" and even Bugsplat screen and not bringing me to the main menu.

I kept in mind that I don't want to buy any new GPUs yet. RTXs are all so expensive than the game.

[coral blaze]

What gpu you using?

[silver pawn]

Intel Iris Xe.

[coral blaze]

The new intel gpus?

I have never heard off that

Sell it and buy amd gpu :D

If not enough money sell a kidney :D

[silver pawn]

Forgot to add, I've been using laptop for gaming currently.

[naive wigeon]

its patched now

the game used to launch with rt off for lower end gpus resulting in a lot of black areas with bugged lighting

[coral blaze]

Don't just don't

[frail bloom]

Why can't you just refund the game

You're not launching the game.

[silver pawn]

I'd keep the game rather than refund it, and I think saving budget to get new GPU would be the only way around.

[frail bloom]

But until then you have no way of playing it. When do you think you can get a new gpu? What are you aiming for

[silver pawn]

16 gb vram. + RT capablility.

[frail bloom]

How much does that cost

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/omniman-gif-26206182

me looking at the prices for a 4070 ti super rn

[solar cairn]

5090

[upbeat junco]

how bad is it

[naive wigeon]

highkey i think ur better off getting a console to play tda on

[green estuary]

multiple cards over 1000 USD 💀

[upbeat junco]

jesus christ

852+ euros

i was insanely lucky to find a 4080 super for 999 euros (1173 usd)

[strong moth]

Maybe this has been answered but when I beat Ahzrak pre-2.1, I noticed that my Power Gauntlet kick didn’t give me a Falter. Has anyone noticed this? Am I crazy? I thought it was a guaranteed Falter on the third hit. Also, is the third Flail hit also a guaranteed Falter?

[frail bloom]

I think ahzrak ain't affected by that or maybe he's against a wall

[heady mica]

asscrack catching hands as usual

[hearty edge]

the chainshot

[hearty edge]

the 3rd flail i think is a guaranteed falter

the kick honestly idk

[proud vine]

you struck gold

literally

[upbeat junco]

yea

got a 5800x3d and 4080 super for 1300 total

and a free monster

[proud vine]

i got my 4070 super for 1200 euros if i remember right

[green estuary]

prices in europe are insane huh

[hearty edge]

they are even worse than here wow

there are 5070s for 710 euros

[upbeat junco]

👍

i remember paying 500 eur for a 2060 🥀

its really bad

[quartz thunder]

Question do you guys think Dark Ages should have multiplayer????

[long heath]

Nope

90% of people buy the game for the campaign

Without multi-player they have extra resources to make the campaign better

[quartz thunder]

True

[frail bloom]

Weellll I'd rather they focus on the dlc, buuuuutttt if it was possible I'd like a multiplayer for the ripatorium mode

[quartz thunder]

Definitely

[long heath]

A ripatorium like ultrakills cybergrind would be epik

[frail bloom]

But y'know at least we get rlly good singleplayer content

I'm waiting for a master level campaign

And those ripatorium updates

Been almost a month since the last one

[quartz thunder]

How is the dlc in development? I bought the game in pre order and i just heard no news 😔

[long heath]

We could get a lot more master levels in tda btw

Eternal didn't have much due to the pandemic I think

[frail bloom]

Well Hugo confirmed it like 30 times

Dlc's usually come out later, like a year after release

[quartz thunder]

Bet

[frail bloom]

They take all the complaints, suggestions and compliments from the base game and use it to mold their best design of the game yet

In a short, compact but memorable experience

That's dlc to me

[quartz thunder]

Right

The dragon levels were lowky fun

[long heath]

There's no way I mashed the glorykill button so hard my thumb nail tore off

[quartz thunder]

💔

[frail bloom]

But yeah I hope the next update is either this month or next month

[long heath]

Not entirely but nearly

[frail bloom]

Hopefully next week

But if not maybe we get smt in october

[long heath]

I'm hoping for a major announcement on the DLC in the next two weeks

[quartz thunder]

Same

[frail bloom]

Eh I expect that in december

Like game awards

[long heath]

A Halloween themed doom update would be sick

[frail bloom]

Would def fit

[quartz thunder]

I hope they add better gameplay to the mechs

[frail bloom]

I think those sections are done

They added the electrical stomp, that's all you can do

Unless you mean for dlc

[long heath]

They're as good as they can get imo

[quartz thunder]

True

[frail bloom]

If they decide to include gimmick sections again

Imo I think the dlc will be just slayer

[long heath]

If serrat comes back using the same resurrection technique they used for the slayer for more dragon segments I swear to god

[quartz thunder]

Lmao

[frail bloom]

That would be silly ngl

[quartz thunder]

Whatever it takes for the lore dawg😔

[frail bloom]

The only truly emotional part of the story

Nah he's back to your misfortune

Letem die

[half marlin]

1 mech level wouldn't hurt
especially if it lets u use the cannons

[long heath]

Come on let the dragon rest bro

[frail bloom]

Sure, why not

But only one, with a new titan enemy

And add a spear

[quartz thunder]

Bro that final mech fight got me feeling like reel steel

[long heath]

The spear in one of exultias mechs?

[frail bloom]

Yup

[long heath]

Oh

[frail bloom]

We needs one

[long heath]

And potentially a titan fight

[quartz thunder]

Definitely

[long heath]

Bossfight I meant

[frail bloom]

Hugo said we'll see some dlc snippets or news as they get closer to finishing the game on stream, but we only had one concept art and knowledge that the puzzles are fun

We also know it'll raise the skill ceiling, add new mechanics, enemies

But like I wanna see a new enemy

Like it's concept art

[quartz thunder]

If they doing all of that please don’t make the Dlc short

[long heath]

Archvile or pain elemental

[frail bloom]

Yup either those two

Both preferably

[frail bloom]

It'll most likely be 7+ levels

Each one being long

[long heath]

The carcass would fit great in TDA

[quartz thunder]

Bet

[frail bloom]

I want a classic archie, pain elemental, and a gargoyle, the rest idc

[half marlin]

hell naw imagine that asshole casting a wall in front of you when u shield bash him 😭

[frail bloom]

I want 6 new enemies total, and 3+ reskin enemies/armored enemies

So 9 enemy ai total

No, I think this is fair

[long heath]

The carcass is built to be annoying

[frail bloom]

The bare minimum I'll take is 6 enemies

[half marlin]

even eternal dlcs had less

[frail bloom]

Eternal's dlc's had two new enemies and 6 reskins, so 8 enemy ai total

But I want SIX new enemies and the rest to be reskin ai

Completely NEW models, NEW ai behaviors, NEW projectiles

[half marlin]

too much tbh

[frail bloom]

For 6 enemies?

[quartz thunder]

Yo thats a whole game

[frail bloom]

Bruh it's 6 enemies

[quartz thunder]

Whats up with the AI behaviors?

[frail bloom]

Like take the stone imp

It has new ai behavior, but it's a reskin

So it's half of a new enemy

[quartz thunder]

Makes sense

[frail bloom]

To make a fully unique enemy, it needs a identifiable model and a new ai

[long heath]

If the gargoyle returns I want it to be a real enemy instead of a fodder demon reskin

[frail bloom]

Exactly

But the minimum I'll take is 6

2 superheavies, 2 heavies, 2 fodder

Seems fair?

[half marlin]

no

[quartz thunder]

Ragebait

[long heath]

Yeah I'd take any amount of New enemies

One of my main issues with tda was the enemy variety, im hoping to see more in the DLc

[half marlin]

if it'd be ragebait it'd be wall of insulting text like some fella here used to do 😭

[long heath]

Speaking of tda ragebait

[frail bloom]

It actually has less than eternal in terms of new enemy models but it does have more ai

[long heath]

I've recently seen a video complaining that the game was too brown and had the same gameplay as eternal

[frail bloom]

Like 35 enemy ai

[long heath]

Yeah that's a lot of enemies anyway but the issue is, its just not enough for 22 levels

[half marlin]

need to show that fella doom 2016 🙏

[quartz thunder]

Even though sone demons design were similar they were lowky fire

[wheat sigil]

same gameplay as eternal is wild

also too brown is wild

[long heath]

It's a ragebait video what do you expect

[wheat sigil]

ah lmao

makes sense

[frail bloom]

No yeah I agree

Stopped introducing stuff around level 15

Meanwhile in the dlc, you could introduce a new enemy for each level

[long heath]

Yeah

[frail bloom]

I also wanna know who's composing

Prob Fm but I wanna hear like a little snippet

[half marlin]

fm were doing borderlands 4 ost too
Idk if they were hired for dlc too (though no idea when borderlands 4 ost was recorded, maybe it was even before tda)

[frail bloom]

I don't really know how it works either

[half marlin]

I'd be happy if dlc ost was made by fm as well

[frail bloom]

Ye they've proven themselves, I'd like to see their best work yet

[old totem]

One thing I’ve been thinking of is something small I kinda miss in the dark ages is the subtle goofiness of the slayer. Like one of the glory kills in eternal is punching a zombies head in its shoulders and the wide eyed “wtf just happened” look from the zombie is really funny. Or the whole “you can’t blow a hole in the surface of Mars!!” New objective: blow a hole in mars type humor. The dark ages doesn’t have as many lil funny goof moments that I can think of off the top of my head. I might just not be remembering them at the moment though. I do love the slayer throwing serrat an arm as a treat though

[long heath]

People wanted it dark and serious and they got it

[half marlin]

"Payment required".

[frail bloom]

No you're right there ain't as many and it devestates me, but there are some moments. Like when he puts the bomb in the titans mouth and it twinks its eyes at him, or the payment required scene, which is peak doom

I'd like some more subtle humor like that moving forward

Stories can be serious but like have fun with your premise

Can we get a lil silly, a lil goofy in the dlc, josh

[long heath]

We got a couple of silly shit tho

[frail bloom]

Or in terms you can understand, make it poggers

[long heath]

Collecting serrats toy and stuff

[frail bloom]

I liked those too

[old totem]

I love the animation of serrats toy being collected that was cute, and him playing with the shield on his own collectible

[frail bloom]

(Don't respond Josh I'm just having a lil fun)

[long heath]

It's pretty nice to see the wholesomeness of the doom slayer when he's not forcefully separating the heads off demons in God's wrath personified

[frail bloom]

But yeah some more light heartedness would be appreciated

Or whatever is light hearted in the doom games

[old totem]

I want a button to pet serrat😤 lol

[frail bloom]

Uh

Well he's kinda dead

Too late for him

[old totem]

Wel I mean for the levels he is alive

[long heath]

I'm on my quest to master doom eternal on controller once again and I've noticed how weak the barrels are in here compared to tda

[frail bloom]

Well yeah barrels are more important here

If you have barrels near a superheavy you basically win

And I love it

[green estuary]

yeah barrels in eternal are more just ammo pouches

[frail bloom]

Which is also cool

But not as cool as big explosion

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-explode-clouds-of-smoke-gif-17216934

[long heath]

I use them mainly for ammo replenishing when I just feel like I don't want to watch the slow annoying chainsaw kill animation

In fact I hate the chainsaw so much I buy the upgrades before faster swapping

[wheat sigil]

i just kinda shoot barrels if i'm close to one in eternal

here they're big stonks

[long heath]

Its a big explosion in TDA while free ammo in eternal

[light abyss]

somebody buy me DTDA please

[long heath]

Sorry I don't have enough money to buy it again

[light abyss]

:c

[dull barn]

Yooo, I need help with something, It’s about a game code for doom the dark ages

I bought myself the Xbox controller of doom the dark ages, there was a code for the game inside it but it’s not an Xbox code, it says to redeem it on Bethesda.net, but if I’ll redeem it there I won’t have the game on my Xbox, anything I can do?

[light abyss]

if accounts are linnked maybe you will have

[dull barn]

I thought about that too, but I’m scared to risk it and loose the game code🥲

[light abyss]

chatgpt says this

The Bethesda.net code that came with your "DOOM: The Dark Ages" controller unlocks the game for your Bethesda.net account, which typically works for PC (via the Bethesda Launcher in the past, now often linked with Steam or Xbox/PC Game Pass).

It does not automatically add the game to your Xbox library — that requires a Microsoft Store / Xbox-specific code.

Here are your best options:

Redeem on Bethesda.net anyway

If you play on PC, you’ll still get access there.

If your Bethesda.net account is linked to your Xbox account, some progress and cosmetics may carry over between platforms, but the actual license for the game usually won’t.

[dull barn]

Oh, hold up, I just read on the box I need to have the game to redeem it, it’s for in game content😭

[light abyss]

xd

[dull barn]

Fuck it, ima go sell the code

[light abyss]

some good ritch soul out there please give me and my friend right here free codes

[dull barn]

I just paid 60 bucks for an controller and game content for a game I can’t play, I need to at least make some profit of it

[warm ibex]

why would you ask chatgpt a question that could be googled? that's not even correct info

[light abyss]

Sorry :c

[sharp bough]

yo boys, anyone willing to trade a ps account with doom the dark ages? i some accounts with space marine 2, helldivers, etc alot of games, would really like to play doom but dont have the money to buy it rn

[strong moth]

I always feel like I see people dismiss the Shredder but I feel it’s one of the most universally effective weapons in the game. I stick Pincushion on it and it melts all the big parry boss types, while the bursts from Pincushion clear all nearby enemies away. The headshot bonus is a major help, too. Maybe my favorite weapon.

[frail bloom]

All weapons are really good

Except pulverizer

Blah

[topaz oasis]

Hey!

this Pulverizer slander will not be tolerated

Put some respect on my favorite weapon

[strong moth]

Haha yeah pulverizer is my least used. Love the yellow charge glow tho

[frail bloom]

No it's mid but I respect you sir

[strong moth]

I’d rank my favorites as Shredder, Accelerator, SSG, Ravager

[verbal void]

The skins are literally so peak

Especially nightmare

[red peak]

Dude how do you kill the aggadon??? Im having so much trouble with this and im too stubborn to lower the difficulty.

I know HOW to kill it, its just like every demon- but i cant seem to find a good weapon to kill it with. Im using the ssg but its like hitting a tree with a pillow and hoping you'll cut it down

Hell, i'll even say its worse than the murader from Eternal, cause at least that guy got easy after a while

I'm sorry, im spamming- im just really pissed off by this demon rn. Can anyone give some advice?

[naive wigeon]

use ur melees too

[red peak]

Nah really? Im doing that

Ig i could try doing it more tho

Sorry again for being so miserable

[frail bloom]

Maybe try the accelerator

Don't go suuuper close in his face

And ofc parry every attack you can

Or try the rocket launcher with the cooked upgrade

Heal yourself while parrying and shooting

[red peak]

Maybe i need to get that, im on the run im doing for my yt channel so I dont have every weapon and upgrade

Thats what i did in my last run tho

[solid nacelle]

Just use chainshot or impaler and make sure you're getting your parries and melee. He's really easy if you know your tools

[red peak]

I miss alot with those tho, idk

And in the extra time i take aiming i end up getting hit and dying

[solid nacelle]

Strafe to aim

The game is designed to make it a viable strategy

[red peak]

Nah lol i gotta rewire my whole playstyle to get used to that

Id rather just move and aim normally

[solid nacelle]

That's how I played eternal so it came naturally to me idk

[red peak]

Oh, idk

[naive wigeon]

u gotta have some patience dont expect to be able to kill him super fast

[solid nacelle]

If taking the time to aim is getting you killed you might want to rethink your strategy regardless

[red peak]

Thats what im doing-

[red peak]

I know, its just so irritating especially considering this isnt my first playthrough

Im on the one where its an aggadon that upgrades your ammo if you kill it (forgot what thats called) and its so difficult

And my bad reaction time isnt helping

[naive wigeon]

which level are u in

[red peak]

I dont remember- its the one where you enter Ahzrak's base

Hang on I'll look it up

[naive wigeon]

ohhh that one

aight holup

imma get back to u

[green estuary]

it's usually simpler to just use automatic weapons against him (specifically the ravager or the accelerator), as his hp pool is high enough that they'll have time to charge up and deal their insanely high max dps
the main thing is that his attacks knock you back even when you parry him, so shield bash into him when he's faltered so you can get some melee strikes off, preferably from the gauntlet or dreadmace, as the flail barely scratches him

but be careful to not hug him too much after you get your melee strikes off, or he'll bitch slap you with the unparryable red slash
the projectile can be absorbed by the shield without your shield breaking, but if you tank the initial melee strike with the shield you're pretty much guaranteed to take some kind of damage, either from the projectile itself or the followup swing after your shield breaks

[red peak]

Alr

[red peak]

Alr, thanks

[green estuary]

tl:dr, if he's faltered, shield bash and spam melee

[red peak]

How do you know when hes faltered?

[green estuary]

yellow circle around his head

[red peak]

Thats falter??

[green estuary]

yes yellow is falter, purple is daze

when it shrinks to zero he wakes up from the falter/daze

[red peak]

I thought that was just some random effect

[green estuary]

come on now
id is very purposeful with their game design

[red peak]

Yeah i shouldve realised that ig-

How do you falter them tho?

[green estuary]

parryable attacks in some combination is the most straightforward way

[frail bloom]

Imagine throwing the shield, and if you shoot at it midair, the shot you fire hits a demon at a downward angle, each weapon has different properties

Now that would be cool

[red peak]

Thats basically just the shredder's right upgrade (whatever the name was)

[frail bloom]

Ye but you actually have to aim

And it requires timing

And it doesn't require you to stick with a perk

Food for thought

[green estuary]

agaddons falter after you parry any of their attacks except for their double slash, which requires 2 in a row
leader agaddons require 2 of the above parries in a row to falter

[red peak]

Above parries?

This is so technical omgosh-

[frail bloom]

Like you throw your shield up in the air, aim your csg, it hits the demon downwards to set up a falter and then you bring your shield back for a back falter

Hol on this sounds awesome

Sounds super technical

That's what I call doubling down on a mechanic

[green estuary]

no, two of the above parries, as in 2 parries of the type that I listed before--in a row

so basically leader agaddons just take 2x the parries to falter compared to normal agaddons

it's pretty intuitive once you make the connection in-game

[red peak]

Dude- thats just the coin from ultrakill

[red peak]

Ohhh, i get it now

[frail bloom]

Oh wait, yeah you're right

[red peak]

Loll

[frail bloom]

But I WANT IT I WANT IT

[naive wigeon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1181154951355961445/1419153361042804827/0921.mp4?ex=68d0b90f&is=68cf678f&hm=bff5f295cf087e6af1c7cf835d151b4591c8e48cd5a1610fcd56e87b33a0b1d7&

[frail bloom]

We got parrying get the other thing

[naive wigeon]

this what i mean when i say use ur melees too

dont mind the sloppy gameplay tho lol

[frail bloom]

C'mon Doom can have some ultrakill stuff too

Plus it works better cuz you can recall the shield

So you can set up falter chains

Then it can surpass ultrakill in that aspect

[red peak]

Oh i see

Why are you using the gauntlet btw? I figured it was mid

[naive wigeon]

i just wanted to use it for demonstration

usually i would use that mace but u dont really have that at around that point in the game yet

[unkempt dragon]

hi guys

[naive wigeon]

halo

[red peak]

I have the mace lol

[naive wigeon]

damn

mace works a lot better

[marble seal]

halo.

[naive wigeon]

halo

[marble seal]

halo.

[red peak]

Wait no- you mean the dreadmace dont you?

[fresh swan]

Hey guys you should make a Iron Man type suit

[red peak]

I ment the flail, i main with that

[fresh swan]

Like gold and red

That would be cool

[naive wigeon]

oh dang

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1181154951355961445/1419156127509119026/0921_1.mp4?ex=68d0bba3&is=68cf6a23&hm=6f222f40d8bea01db68226a51913f6499e5c35d24ca14e06b6b71c2632992e48& this is how fast they get fried by the mace

[red peak]

Does the flail suck?

[naive wigeon]

not really

its good for armor

and it has slightly more damage than the fists i think

[red peak]

Oh- so youre saying i should just ditch the flail?

[naive wigeon]

nah

its up to personal preference

[red peak]

I mainly use the chainshot for armor, ssg for sheilds

So the flail isnt that useful other than the burning

[naive wigeon]

by "good for armor" i meant for farming armor

its nice to have another source of armor

[red peak]

Ohhh, mb

I dont use melee enough im ngl

[green estuary]

gauntlet and mace are both amazing

[naive wigeon]

the mace is really good since it deals a lot of damage but u have to be careful with it because its attack animation can get cancelled by enemies if you just try to swing mindlessly

[green estuary]

only the flail is ass

[red peak]

The flail is so cool tho!

[naive wigeon]

fr

[red peak]

Maybe i should switch tho, idk

Doesnt it recharge fastest?

[green estuary]

I'll put it this way
4 flail hits take off 8% of an agaddon's health bar
4 consecutive gauntlet strikes take off 30% of his health bar

and, to add insult to injury, gauntlet recharges faster than the flail

[red peak]

30%???

It recharges faster??

I regret neglecting the gauntlet now im ngl-

[green estuary]

well
unless the agaddon has damage mitigation against melee strikes that I have forgotten about
but yeah, 4 gauntlet strikes deal 32k damage, and agaddons have 105k hp

[red peak]

32k?

Are you fr??

[green estuary]

yeah all the numbers in tda are really high

one mace swing deals 32k single damage exactly also, in addition to some area damage

[red peak]

Oh- wait how much is the flail?

[green estuary]

each flail strike is 100 direct + 2000 splash damage
so to a single target the flail deals 2100 damage lmao

literal peanuts

[red peak]

Oh wow- thats low asf-

[green estuary]

and to make matters worse, fodder imps have a damage ceiling for the flail, so it takes 2 hits to kill them for some ridiculous reason

[naive wigeon]

Thats crazyy

[red peak]

I didnt know, this whole time ive been maining the flail thinking its the best melee weapon cause it drops armor and its faster than the mace

[green estuary]

I mean if you can win using the flail it's just a flex

[naive wigeon]

what the helllll

[red peak]

Ok, lets not get ahead of ourselves- its not THAT much of a flex

[naive wigeon]

i mean its still very much useable but i didnt know the damage was THAT low

[red peak]

Yeah me neither-

[green estuary]

against ahzrak it's 100% a flex
because you're actually lowering your dps against him by using your melee

[red peak]

I beat Creed Kahn with the mace on my first playthrough first try-

[green estuary]

and if you're hitting one heavy demon with it, you're only getting back 8 armor per swing

[red peak]

So-

[green estuary]

kreed is easy anyway lmao

[red peak]

8? Only 8?

[red peak]

Yeah fair lol

[green estuary]

more if you hit a crowd of enemies, but yeah
a 3 hit combo on something like a mancubus will only give back 24 armor

sadge

[red peak]

Ok its official, im switching melee weapons

Im going back to the gauntlet lmao

[naive wigeon]

gah damn

atp just use the combat shotty bruh nahhh

[green estuary]

now that the ssg has been un-neutered, ground fissure is by far the best way to generate armor

[warm ibex]

I don't think it's that much of a flex considering how many people use it while under the impression it's either the best or second best in the game. TDA is forgiving enough that it sorta works out no matter what you pick

[naive wigeon]

exactly

[green estuary]

fair
but against enhanced ahzrak at least, using the flail is still a huge flex

[warm ibex]

yeah that's true

[red peak]

Thats the main rune i use tbh, but tbf ive never used the others

[green estuary]

they're all great except auto turret
and even that is amazing against single targets, although it lacks in cc

it fills up bosses' stun bar very fast if you can get them to give you a projectile

[red peak]

Dude i wanna go and beat this level so bad now that ik the gauntlet is more powerful, but my parents are asleep rn and i like thw volume loud so i cant play rn

[green estuary]

headphones?

[naive wigeon]

i behold, headphones

[red peak]

The headphone thingy is broken on my controller

[green estuary]

oof

[warm ibex]

gotta invest in something wireless dude

[red peak]

I have a other one but it has 24/7 stickdrift

[green estuary]

wired headphones are based as hell

[red peak]

Playstation doesnt do wireless tho that ik of :/

[green estuary]

that sounds unlikely

surely it has bluetooth connectivity

[warm ibex]

they have their own brand of wireless and any non-playstation brand headphones that use a USB for connection will work

[warm ibex]

110% agreed, but less so when you have a controller with a busted port

[naive wigeon]

rip

[final widget]

Can we expect story DLCs for Doom: The Dark Ages.. Just like Doom: Eternal's The Ancient God's Part 1 & 2 DLCs?

[green estuary]

I sure as hell hope not

if the story in tda's dlc is anything like TAG I might go insane

[naive wigeon]

im pretty sure theyre currently working on a very big story dlc

[wintry forge]

They got one coming

[final widget]

When we can expect the next DLC?

[wintry forge]

No confirmed release date, but I'd say within a year from the base game's release date

[meager vortex]

maybe next year

[tired stirrup]

Just wondering if anyone is having issues with Dark Ages freezing at random i've tried

1. reinstalling the game
2. dduing GPU drivers and reinstalling
3. disabling all overlays
4. Disabling iGPU in BIOS
   it's getting impossible to play due to it. There is also no crash message just stuck on the last frame with music still playing
   My Specs are
   CPU: 9800X3D
   GPU: RTX 3060 12GB
   RAM: 32GB DDR5 6000MT
   installed on a Samsung 990Pro 2TB

[dark thunder]

Is there a way I can remove the black background on subtitles

[stray anvil]

Sup peeps

[unkempt dragon]

Everybody, you'll know when the DLC comes out when they announce it.

[molten inlet]

Consider:
Chainshot + https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYrWmuWCO2I

[zinc tide]

im new here .. not sure whether this has been discussed already.. will the dark ages get a horde mode like eternal?

[topaz oasis]

I hope it does

horde mode was a cool concept in eternal, but they needed to flesh it out more

and put more content on it

[zinc tide]

I really wish they’d add something like a horde mode to the game… I love the dark ages and want more of it

[topaz oasis]

I just cant wait for them to add the NG+ mode

I hope they go crazy and put 1 or 2 sections with the same amount of enemies you find in the BFC part of Neratul for every mission

[topaz oasis]

I recommend trying this challenge out fellas https://www.youtube.com/live/v-o5voT92JI?si=Bdh5kPBc9ThLdlm1

it's lots of fun, but hard as nails

feels great to play as a "new gameplay+" experience too

[strong moth]

When people mention “the NG mode”, is this something Hugo has mentioned or is this purely hypothetical

[topaz oasis]

pretty sure he has talked about it

[strong moth]

Cool! I’ll take any extra content. So excited for Ripatorium updates, the expansion, et cetera. I’m hoping for Master Levels at some point because I don’t THINK he’s mentioned those specifically.

[frail bloom]

He has

He even said he and the team were working on them

But that was like 3 MONTHS ago

Not as bad from eternal's release to the sgn ml but we hsven't heard anything since

[frail bloom]

But honestly the idea of playing other ppls presets sounds more fun

I think on that same day we'll get customizable waves

[frail bloom]

"Advancing the story in ways that ppl want" how does that sound to you

Too vague for me to know

Who's the "people"

In this context

Also we're getting a stream this week

After like 3 weeks

[zinc tide]

Yea that does sound fun and I guess the devs confirmed it’s on the way.. I’m looking forward to it but at the same time a roguelike mode would be fun too… where you start with one weapon and unlock more by clearing stages… being rewarded at the end for how long you survived would be really exciting and challenging don’t you think?

[frail bloom]

Prob works better in this game too

Cuz each weapon is viable

By itself

But I imagine what you want would be later in development

Maybe in the 2.0 stage of the ripatorium

We still have like 9 other updates to go

[zinc tide]

I guess i can wait.. as long as its in the pipeline its all good

[zinc tide]

Is that so? Have they released some sort of a roadmap?

[frail bloom]

We don't know if it will, but as the ripatorium gets more complicated you can prob make your own roguelike

[frail bloom]

Just speculating

Hugo HAS seen ppl want a roguelike

He even responded to a comment that wanted an endless roguelike and we got the ripatorium soon after

But y'know not exactly roguelike

But I'd imagine it's in their noggins

Imo they most likely will make an official mini campaign horde mode

The reason why they released the customizable one first is cuz it requires no balance you put what demons you can handle

Which is genius

[harsh egret]

yh but how long do u want them to support the game tho

they got the rippatorium which will get more updates, likely a master campaign AND dlc

i think u reading too much into the roguelike part of that comment, hugo's response did not incentivize that they are working on a roguelike at all

"I would be happy with an endless arena mode. Maybe even a Roguelike mode."
"more content incoming and it’s right in line with what you’re asking for"

[frail bloom]

And like I said, I'm speculating

You have no idea if all they're working on is what you currently know

All I'm saying, is that he and the team have seen it

And there's a possibility

No, I am not reading too much into it

[harsh egret]

i mean hugo delivered what that guy asked for and what he said he is working on

[frail bloom]

The guy was asking for a premade endless roguelike horde mode

The one we have in eternal, but without the gimmicky sections

[harsh egret]

he just said "maybe even a roguelike mode" after the endless arena he first wanted

[frail bloom]

Clearly, the guy didn't ask for a customizable one with no customizable waves and no changing arenas

[harsh egret]

thats just like a bonus thing lmao

[frail bloom]

Yeah and it's barebones rn

That's why they went the customizable route first

Don't have to balance an encounter

You can balance your own

[harsh egret]

yeah but adding another completly new version that plays differently into it is not happening imo

[frail bloom]

Yeah, in your opinion

[green estuary]

it's not happening

[harsh egret]

replace imo with realistically samir

there u go

[frail bloom]

I'm literally saying that in the final update, we might their own official preset mode

Like, 2.0

That can be months ahead

Way after dlc

What the guy above was asking for is what we have, but you earn your guns, and the arenas change

Can't that take priority after the dlc?

[harsh egret]

how are ripatorium presets a roguelike

[frail bloom]

I assume they'll add new arenas and enemies too

[frail bloom]

I'm not saying that

[harsh egret]

i would hope not, they should move on to the next game

[frail bloom]

I'm saying they have one half of it, they can make the other half

[frail bloom]

You don't want dlc master levels? Or the ripatorium to have dlc stuff, or you just don't want a roguelike

[harsh egret]

the roguelike is too extra, the other things i already expect