the-dark-ages

[primal cave]

will they ever make ts more optimised

[harsh egret]

by definition the game is pretty damn optimized

[hard thistle]

I had to run ts on 17 fps bro..

[lusty shale]

the game is highly optimized, especially for what it does

[harsh egret]

yeah then u have a terrible pc anyway

u cant tell me u get 17 fps in tda but u get good framerates in other modern AAA titles

[meager vortex]

you have a golden potato pc

https://tenor.com/view/funny-potty-potato-poop-gif-16121513

[hard thistle]

I shit you not

I get good framerates in other modern titles

[harsh egret]

right.. tell me ur specs then

[hard thistle]

alr

[harsh egret]

also, what is "good" framerates to u

[hard thistle]

i suppose

round 100 to 240 or 90

[harsh egret]

tell me what modern titles u get 90+ fps

or even nearing 240 lmfao

[hard thistle]

spiderman 2

gow

and like fn i think

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/bahaha-lol-hd-gif-minion-minion-laugh-gif-2154867417577880306

right, whats ur specs then

[hard thistle]

flip you pal

[harsh egret]

not even laughing about fortnite itself, its just like me saying yeah i get 450 fps in cs but 100 in tda
not even a good comparison

[hard thistle]

storage 477 graphics card 4 gb installed ram 16 gb nd 12th gen intel core tm i5-12450H

[harsh egret]

so u have a overheating laptop with 4 gb vram in ur gpu (u didnt actually tell me the gpu name but oh well)

[hard thistle]

yes 🥹

[harsh egret]

surprise surprise

[hard thistle]

😔

[harsh egret]

laptops specs will never perform like their desktop counterparts

especially if ur model is overheating like crazy otherwise u wouldnt get 17 fps

[hard thistle]

dawg i might js get a ps5 atp 😔

[harsh egret]

like i think u might have the worst rtx gpu u can possibly have

if its a 2050

[hard thistle]

oh 😔

[harsh egret]

shrug emoji

[hard thistle]

dih emoji

[hard thistle]

it still ran doom eternal normally tho

[harsh egret]

cuz that game runs well on 4-5 year old hardware at that time

[hard thistle]

oh

k

[harsh egret]

even tho ur gpu model launched a year after eternal came out, but its just made as a budget gpu that doesnt really perform well on demanding games

and laptops have notoriously bad cooling so u get thermal throttling and stutters and shit non stop

i know that first hand

[harsh egret]

aka ur pc shits on the performance when u reach too high temperatures to stop itself from exploding pretty much

[hard thistle]

prolly gonna buy a cooler

[harsh egret]

i wouldnt bet on that resolving those issues 100%

[hard thistle]

[meager vortex]

your pc must change new pc doom the dark ages run

[meager vortex]

doom eternal almost 5 years ago

[harsh egret]

yep

[green estuary]

the more I learn about PCs (I used to use exclusively macs) the more I realize I should have just spent the extra 150 bucks to get a laptop with a 4070 in it instead of a 4060

shit hurts

[harsh egret]

i have a laptop with a 3060 i use for travel and stuff, it overheats on any game unless i turn on the fans to spin like an airplane

[green estuary]

solution, just put in headphones when you're gaming and you won't hear the fans

[harsh egret]

hehe i wish

[pine sky]

Is it true that u can heatblast/shock revenants out of their immunity

And u can use the heaven splitter too?

[stoic forge]

Oh ok. I thought I was missing something and that there would be a good fun way to engage them. But these enemies seem to just require a head start and quick elimination. They’re annoying.

[upbeat junco]

Yeah unfortunately cacaodemon and fun don't belong in the same sentence in this game

[upbeat junco]

Anything that causes a falter will do that

[pine sky]

Dang I didn't know that

[upbeat junco]

Yeah you can do a jump falter to knock them out of the ghost state

Slayer's too heavy even for ghosts

[pine sky]

That's so cool

[stoic forge]

Such a shame after last game let you feed them grenades as a treat

[dire charm]

My Xbox can't run dick ages 😭

I had it for like 4 years

[upbeat junco]

Yeah now they're a piece of shit nuisance

that also got an unnecessary hp buff

[dire charm]

Cacodemons in dark ages are secretly arachnotrons

🕳️

[pine sky]

Why did they have to make the cacodemons so annoying 😔

[dire charm]

In doom 3 they were pretty annoying

In doom 2016 and eternal they are just one hit fodder with grenades and siege mode

[latent walrus]

we talkin PC set ups?

i'm gonna pick up an rtx 3080 and a 5700x tomorrow.. so i can finally play dark ages properly ( I already completed it on my 2060 super and 2700x)

[hybrid berry]

They made the cocademon look ugly in doom 3

[wheat sigil]

honestly cacos are way overhated

which may be my hottest take in regards to tda it seems like😭

[verbal void]

Buff ultra nightmare bro

[maiden onyx]

speakin of cacos, does anyone know a good combo to consistently deal with them in one volley / set up?

[vague sinew]

Just like in doom 1, shotgunning them was pain

I do miss the homing rockets…

[maiden onyx]

rockets are the easiest ways to deal with them

but missing sucks

[vague sinew]

Bfc

[vague sinew]

Yeah but the parry rocket makes up for it

[maiden onyx]

oh hang on i've been messing around in the ripatorium

if the caco is low enough, i can get em with a throw shield and 2 shots of the ssg

trying again

it was higher up this time, didn't stagger on shot 2 but when i recalled my shield it got into a finisher state

[vague sinew]

I usually zap the cacos with the double plasma gun so i use the dread mace on them

[upbeat junco]

dreadmace, bfc, just delete them out of existence they don't deserve anything else

remove it from game files

[maiden onyx]

mowed down another with shieldsaw + triple burst

need to find something that works at longer ranges

[upbeat junco]

cooked rocket launcher

or blood sacrifice rocket launcher

both work one just needs a projectile parry

[maiden onyx]

tbh i think it's the waiting that gets me with the cacodemon, when it does its purple attack you gotta pay attention. Suppose just gotta have good game sense for pillars and stuff to break its attack, maybe shield bash out the way

[wheat sigil]

i don't have anything specific, but you can just do some rocket shots/impaler and shield throw it

you can also shield bash in for an ssg shot

[maiden onyx]

charged?

i've given the regular bash a try but i often get bitten

[wheat sigil]

what

[maiden onyx]

it's the buff you get from harvester

[wheat sigil]

i had no idea a charged shield bash existed

[maiden onyx]

it's really useful for gibbing arachnatrons or shattering the armoured arachnatrons

[wraith crater]

Any idea when DLCs will start releasing?

[barren shell]

I’m guessing probably early next year??

[mental grotto]

Yeah it’s one of the upgrades you purchase for the shield. When the shield has that blue electricity effect that’s how you know it’s charged

[wheat sigil]

oh dam

[barren shell]

It’s rlly only useful for arachnotrons tbh since it immediately staggers it

[mental grotto]

Eh more damage is more damage

[barren shell]

Ig

[solid nacelle]

I think it's good against hell knights too

[stoic forge]

Rfg

[green estuary]

It makes shield bash+ssg much more consistent against revs/whiplashes when you don’t have the wraithstone upgrade yet

[barren shell]

Oh yeah

I forgot about that

[upbeat junco]

charged shield is so goated

deals as much dmg as point blank ssg

[solar cairn]

Patch soon?

[wraith crater]

Hopefully 🤞

[fervent maple]

I would really like it if the Mortar Mancubus looked different. Why isn't he green like the Eternal Cyber Mancubus, or wearing like a cosmetic helmet or something? Even Chaingunners look different from other soldiers.

[maiden onyx]

Did they give the aggadon hunter more attacks?

Haven’t played in a month

[merry sapphire]

cacos would be great if they didnt have that fuckass shield

[exotic jetty]

Fr tho

[upbeat junco]

1 sword slash you can't parry that also sends out a projectile you can't parry

[uneven mortar]

Is it fixed yet?

[random garnet]

I somehow beat it twice in 24 hours

[maiden onyx]

YOU KNOW WHAT, them tacos are definitely why doomguy got his meat hook. Bro was definitely tired of their shit

[silver kettle]

Tacos from where?

[uneven mortar]

Any news on SSG

[maiden onyx]

need a tacodemon skin

[drowsy aurora]

Uhhh

Hey guys...is there like a bug going on where life sigils don't respawn in Pandemonium?

[harsh egret]

let it go bruh

[brisk rock]

Other than the ones you previously picked up?

I'm playing through Pandemonium rn and everytime I go through the level again (after a death) the ones I pick up dont reappear. Probably by design.

Hey, does anyone know a work-around for the "Melee Expert" achievement bug? It's really bothering me.

[drowsy aurora]

That would make sense, but this is a brand new run

I just got to this spot

[brisk rock]

Oh then that is weird.. i'll see if i have anything like that too.

[drowsy aurora]

I'm entering Hebeth, gonna see if it persists there

[frank turtle]

it's never coming

[exotic jetty]

[drowsy aurora]

It happened there too

Wow. That's really bad

Might as well just do UN at that point

[brave spoke]

What platform are you on? I’m on steam and i got it no problem

[brisk rock]

Xbox Series S

[exotic jetty]

Off topic but steam support is scared of me and idk why

[midnight kayak]

damn

[exotic jetty]

Do u know

????

[brave spoke]

Youre on Xbox so I doubt theres much you can do about it

[midnight kayak]

no

[exotic jetty]

[midnight kayak]

sry

[fleet geode]

No but they made him more aggressive and the overhead attack is more punishing

[frail bloom]

Didn't even know he was a different ai don't know why they ain't the same thing

[frail bloom]

Nope it's unfun to play with expecially with the dumb bug where it shoots instantly

[exotic jetty]

Soup

[drowsy aurora]

Steam. Apparently just dying and restarting the campaign fixed it

Still gonna do it in UN though

[green estuary]

well, I for one am thankful that normal mancs don't have the ability to toss acid at me from the other side of an arena

[frail bloom]

Why do mortar manc exist anyway

I mean you have blood angels in eternal who do the same thing

Difference is that they're easy to dispatch

[green estuary]

same idea as cyber mancs
they just restrict ground movement

except when you don't have near unlimited air mobility, damaging ground effects are much more annoying lmao

[frank turtle]

[dark thunder]

has anything noteworthy happened in the past few weeks

is the freaking shield ssg fixed

[solid nacelle]

You won't like this next answer

[frail bloom]

Nope

No streams no nothing

[meager vortex]

if NG+ coming you guys play again? or not?

[verbal void]

If it’s available for UN hell yeah

[meager vortex]

i will make a new game and play it now

chapter1 is end

chapter2 is now

[frail bloom]

A hundred percent

Who wouldn't?

[exotic jetty]

My favorite doom game is this

[frail bloom]

But for now I'm not in the mood

[frail bloom]

Nice

[exotic jetty]

Soup

[frail bloom]

Soup

[rugged hill]

Gonna go ahead and throw in a suggestion: get rid of the plasma shield walls on kreed makyrs ship pls

[frail bloom]

Ye I'd vouch for a tutorial message honestly

Takes too much ammo and lasts too long

[rugged hill]

also just dumb and unecessary

legitimately thought the game hard locked me out of progressing and I restarted my checkpoint a couple times

i dont think they were there at launch

like, youre gonna wait until the last three levels in the game to throw something as silly and trivial as that at me?

[verbal void]

I can imagine ahzrak being crushed by an atlans foot

[silent surge]

i do kinda wish this game had an extra lives mode, traditionally
though i will be the first to say, pandemonium is way better to train you for UN

[silent surge]

they werent

[exotic jetty]

Hi allstin

[silent surge]

hello manosoup

[exotic jetty]

🙂

[frank turtle]

I'll play it 100 times

[drowsy pulsar]

y'all, i can't play the Ripatorium anymore. it's crashing every single time i play. i think the game's running out of memory somehow and the ripatorium is a worse offender than the campaign

[random sand]

pc specs?

or you on console?

[drowsy pulsar]

PC. I have 16gb ram at 6000mhz, Ryzen 7 7700 and an RTX 4060ti 8gb. I know the 8gb is light but I have DLSS and frame gen enabled as well

[meager vortex]

have you parry slow motion100%?

if 100% parry slow motion game is crash bug

[drowsy pulsar]

I believe I had it set to 0 but I have a bug where it never actually changed it. The slowdown is always still there

[arctic marsh]

show us DLC with 20 new enemy types, please.

[harsh egret]

yh and another 22 levels

maybe we played the dlc and we are waiting for the base game now

[arctic marsh]

give us everything

[bleak bough]

is dark ages worth the cost?

[meager vortex]

yes

[crude bronze]

Trophy didnt pop for all melee upgrades and the berserker trophy, is there a fix for this? I've 100% the game

[meager vortex]

wait for patch please

[tidal crow]

does doom tda have an option to do the original gun in the middle doom layout?

i know eternal had it

[harsh egret]

nope, wouldnt rly work that well with the shield

[tidal crow]

yea i suppose

[tidal crow]

AHH A VALORANT PLAYER

[harsh egret]

?

[naive wigeon]

nahh ive seen a vid on youtube where someone modded the classic viewmodel and it actually looks fine

[strong moth]

I normally just BFC the Komodos on my Pandemonium runs, but does anyone have any advice for dealing with their gunfire? Anytime I try to deal with one without burning BFC there’s such a wild variance on whether I randomly get pounded with gunfire or none of them hit me…

[meager vortex]

https://youtu.be/XrdIWsxPZsE

[upbeat junco]

Praying works

[strong moth]

I’ll give that a go next time lol

[upbeat junco]

Usually try deleting komodos before they get to do their fireball diarrhea attacks

Prevention is the best measure

Heaven splitter into double mace whack

Cooked rocket

[north spire]

Did the ssg get fixed yet? I forgot :p

[solemn mauve]

In a perfect world, it would have been fixed by now. But this isn't a perfect world

[frail bloom]

Put it in ma blood

[strong moth]

Also, it appears that Berserk in Harbor of Souls doesn’t provide infinite BFC ammo anymore. Missed that in the Update 2 notes

[solid nacelle]

It's every appearance of berserk

[strong moth]

I forget that there’s on in the final level lol

[rugged hill]

whats pandemonium like?

[silent surge]

die, and restart the level. lose all life sigils and die, restart the campaign

[meager vortex]

life sigil is gone save file is gone

UN is different

[merry sapphire]

Guess #Not

[scenic lichen]

We’re fr getting silksong before ssg fix

[merry sapphire]

they developed a whole ass game before the ssg got fixed 🥀

[green estuary]

Backpedal while dodging
Works like 85% of the time

[surreal mango]

@midnight cedar 3am moot tla3a 3ala watsup

[whole dirge]

chat, am i back?

most complex way to say “NO”

[maiden onyx]

i just magdump the accelerator or pulverizer into them before they get a chance to kill me tbh

but otherwise i just hold my shield up and strafe

[frail bloom]

Doom the dead ages

[strong moth]

I’m on my fifth playthrough now to test out Nightmare post patch and I just learned Accelerator and Shredder get headshot bonus damage lol. Took me roughly 90 hours to notice that

[tropic adder]

2016 and Eternal still win by the mile. I fell asleep in first couple of minutes when playing first time.
2016 and Eternal did it masterfully - short and on point. No needless blah blah, before it actually became badass.

[green estuary]

yeah for whatever reason only three weapons deal bonus headshot damage, at least as far as I can tell from the files
the accelerator deals 175% damage on headshots, the impaler deals 200% damage on headshots, and the shredder deals 120% damage on headshots

odd, because in eternal pretty much every weapon dealt 20-25% bonus direct damage on headshots

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/lobotomy-gif-17167871613916111579

Doom fan when story:

Nah I'm kidding

[proud vine]

the eternal one is fucking legendary

still mad that mick didn't make a full cover of THAT specific "at hell's gate"

[maiden onyx]

seeing this really makes it set in. bro was probably eons into his solitary crusade in hell after the sentinels lost:

he went in to some random bloodkeep and then blacked out to wake up naked, in chains, in the middle of an invasion wit some random dude telling him what to do.

probably felt like a fever dream for the first hour

[harsh egret]

i really hate how the shotgun cocking with the music drop is like never on point usually

i say usually cuz its just inconsistent and if u pause the game and unpause during any part of that intro cutscene it fucks it up

[unreal fiber]

I just got tda, does anyone have any pointers for starting out?

[upbeat junco]

If you see something shoot it until it dies

[frail bloom]

Ye especially on tag 1

I rolled my eyes at that

[unreal fiber]

👍

[upbeat junco]

Or beat the shit out of it

[unreal fiber]

Even better

[maiden onyx]

get used to aiming for the head.
Do not spam buttons. (melee + melee + melee) will always do 3 strikes even if you stop pressing it early

[upbeat junco]

Nah jokes aside tho, just learn the attack patterns, what can be parried and what can't, utilize your falters and don't bother with the flail

[maiden onyx]

and spam clicking your shield can prevent a successful parry

[harsh egret]

Not letting him test things out and see what he enjoys is kinda bad advice bro

[upbeat junco]

dont care

[unreal fiber]

I see nothing wrong with that advice

[harsh egret]

Flail slander by a person who hasnt even played the game

[brazen vortex]

Don't go into it thinking its like eternal or 2016, its a much more front lines kind of combat, keep close, but not to close, but dont get to far, you wont be able to reach them while doing the necessary damage.

[maiden onyx]

also this is super important, remember to grunt every time your doomguy takes damage, you actually can't finish the game unless you do this

[harsh egret]

Finally some good advice

[frail bloom]

Just buy a toilet and sit in the middle of the room

Poop each time you get hit

[delicate grotto]

Enjoy the game how you want. Feel free to use the game sliders. There’s a ton of customization options. Definitely try to experiment with different equipment.
Ultimately just keep an open mind when going into the game. It sure wasn’t what I was expecting but after giving it a chance and fully adjusting to its learning curve, it became my favorite Doom game.

[frail bloom]

Which means you grunt

[brazen vortex]

Do 10 push-ups every time you get hit, its doomguy approved

[frail bloom]

Nah he should go poopie

Honest

[unreal fiber]

If I had the money I'd try it lol

[upbeat junco]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1122224504576430093/1412196737447235657/Screenshot_20250902_000530_Steam.jpg?ex=68b76a33&is=68b618b3&hm=ec81e503a84ed3d09d651067b9b3494ebfe5bc4f6bd755f7651c21a0081a5589& true i never touched the game

[frail bloom]

Damn it

I have only 92

[brazen vortex]

Thats it?

[harsh egret]

No, he said he doesnt think ur advice is bad

As in he knows already or smth

[upbeat junco]

Yeah it's hard to farm hours like i did with eternal cause of this slur called j*b

[brazen vortex]

Shit last I checked i had like 247 hours

[frail bloom]

What

[brazen vortex]

Shut up I like doom.

[frail bloom]

Damn you love the game don't you

And I thought I did

[brazen vortex]

So do i dawg-

[frail bloom]

I don't even have a job

[unreal fiber]

It's the same here but I think my progress on eternal got reset from transfer from ps4 to ps5

[upbeat junco]

Im happy you find the time for it 🙏🏼

[brazen vortex]

I do that AND have a wife and daughter, with a son that could arrive any day now, so all im hearing from you dawg is excuses

[harsh egret]

I could never main doom, i play too much competitive games or other shit

[dreamy kiln]

I have -3 months

[frail bloom]

Do you know how to check on the ps4 bc I want to add my hrs from ps4 and ps5 combined

[brazen vortex]

YOU MUST RIP AND TEAR!

[frail bloom]

Bruh

[unreal fiber]

Havent a clue, I just used to use the ps app

[frail bloom]

Oh man

[upbeat junco]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-funny-black-man-gif-12405487584384624752

[frail bloom]

I only have the ps5 version

Says 70 hrs

[brazen vortex]

Yeah ya just lazy dawg. Get to work my man

[frail bloom]

Figures

[harsh egret]

Tell em

[unreal fiber]

I had like 300+ hours on ps4, now I'm struggling to remember my Bethesda login so I have about 7 minutes on ps5

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/job-job-application-jobless-gif-2757097081210871087

[brazen vortex]

What i do is, since usually I dont sleep anyways, when my wife heads to bed, I let her sleep and I just play dark ages, that way in case my daughter needs anything I can get up so my wife dosent have to

[frail bloom]

I think I'm close to that too even if I can't check it

[brazen vortex]

That usually gives me about 9-10 hours of dark ages a day

[frail bloom]

Cuz I played since 2021

[harsh egret]

"i dont sleep anyways" tf

[unreal fiber]

I played since 2024 😭

[brazen vortex]

Insomnia is a bitch

[harsh egret]

damn

[frail bloom]

I got abt 1 min and 30 sec on my archvile animation

[harsh egret]

ye i think i would rather not have that and play less dark ages

[frail bloom]

Y'all are some crazed hooligans

[brazen vortex]

I mean, in all fairness, its what I get for having kids, they keep you up at night for the first couple years

[frail bloom]

In respect

[harsh egret]

i can imagine

i remember when i did that to my parents as a newborn (i dont)

[maiden onyx]

real

[brazen vortex]

I mean hey, in my opinion its worth it. My daughter is the joy of my life

[frail bloom]

I'm surprised you can afford it

Good on you

[maiden onyx]

do you sometimes get insomnia without precedent?

[brazen vortex]

I'm a marine biologist, sooo

[frail bloom]

Still

[brazen vortex]

Dosent make bills any less expensive though dawg

[frail bloom]

I see a lot of ppl just choosing the single option

[harsh egret]

u do know its 2 people providing ye

[brazen vortex]

FUCK WHY ARE THEY SO HIGH! guess thats what I get for free health care

[frail bloom]

In a good relationship

[harsh egret]

are we assuming the average relationship isnt?

[brazen vortex]

Well we do have one, and amazing one actually, so yeah we do both pay bills

[frail bloom]

If it's one sided and the person providing is not that well off it won't last

[brazen vortex]

And she went shopping everyday for the last year and a half, until she couldn't due to her pregnancy

[frail bloom]

Not now but soon I can see a shift

[harsh egret]

lmfao what

[frail bloom]

What

[brazen vortex]

Do...do you need a hug dude?

Like..you doing okay?

[frail bloom]

How many ppl do you see in a relation ship until they're like 35

[frail bloom]

What did I say smt

[maiden onyx]

noooo broooo, you'll find your morticia / gomez you just have to believe

[brazen vortex]

A shit ton of em

[harsh egret]

^

[frail bloom]

Oh welp oops

[brazen vortex]

Literally every one of my friends are over 30 and theyre still happily married

[frail bloom]

My bad

[brazen vortex]

Nah youre good man ^^ no need to apologize

[frail bloom]

Alr alr

Anyways I'm really liking my archvile animation

Lots of action

[brazen vortex]

Oh?

[frail bloom]

I chose unholy siege as the song

[brazen vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/now-i'm-intrigued-detective-kevin-bernard-law-and-order-now-i'm-interested-now-i'm-curious-gif-7584556014599730355

[frail bloom]

Cuz it slaps whoever disagrees gets the paddle

I'm kidding

I see I went too far

I'll change it to paddle

No one?

Ok

Guess I'l just mow the lawn then

Byeeee

[brazen vortex]

Sorry was making food

[frail bloom]

Oh ok

Nvm I got like 12 min

[brazen vortex]

Yeah ^^' but it sounds pretty neat

[frail bloom]

Can't really share anything tho

Alr then

[tropic adder]

That could have 2 meanings. I do feel lobotomized after the TDA intro and "when story".
Talking is not story. Its a dialogue. All that couldve been told in much shorter term and not lul me to sleep in 5 in the morning when the game launched.
SO, I AGREE.

[frail bloom]

Never change Slade, never change

[solar cairn]

Fix after this weekend stream?

[frail bloom]

Maybe

At this point it's hard to really predict

[frank turtle]

gun go boom

demon go splat

[stone comet]

Shield bash enemy

[vernal star]

So... where's gyro aim?

[uneven mortar]

Is the SSG fixed yet????

If it's not then holy shit

[frank turtle]

probably not

[random sand]

is it even adressed as a bug? i swear it was mentioned in the patch notes as an update to the SSG

[upbeat junco]

Hugo said Friday or Monday, just didn't specify the week, month or year

We were so foolish

[prisma hedge]

bro

[upbeat junco]

Cro

[vivid light]

Kreed maykr is definitely the best boss in the franchise

[vivid light]

I've just stopped using the ssg entirely lmao

[solar cairn]

It’s just cringe

[random sand]

excuse me?

i beg your pardon?

[proud vine]

it's not an high bar

[random sand]

even with that it's still pretty lame tho. even with the changes, it's easy asf

samur maykr and such were way better

[loud gulch]

its like top 3 imo

ofc the other bosses that beat it is eternals ios and the doom 3 one

[restive flame]

DOOOOOOOM!!!!

[agile schooner]

Hot take but Doom the dark ages has better gameplay than doom 2016

[frosty coyote]

Seems fun

[frosty coyote]

Not that hot of a take

[frosty coyote]

Lmao

[burnt finch]

Why am I starting pandemonium run with 3 life sigils or 2 sometimes
and some life sigils doesnt exist
example there was no life sigil on purple gate in village of khalim
there was only 1 life sigil in hebeth
is this a bug or something?
I didnt die

[uneven mortar]

Has Hugo said anything about the SSG at all?

It's been almost 3 weeks since they broke it

[hard thistle]

Both Eternal and TDA play better than 2016.

They're both just better across the board.

[uneven mortar]

Ice cold take

Actually hot take: Doom TDA's gameplay is the best of any campaign FPS ever released so far

When the SSG works

[agile schooner]

It ACC does for me

And The shield is PEAK

My favorite thing in the whole game

The chainsaw shield

[hearty edge]

that's an absolute zero take

also damn wdym i have to do all of the levels in pandemonium in 1 go

[green estuary]

Not a hot take

[long heath]

Not really that hot of a take tbf

[hearty edge]

why tf was google snake going laggier than doom tda

[nova badger]

How many Chrome tabs do you have open?

[random sand]

That's not a hot take

[random sand]

Doom tda has wizards doing the optimization

[long heath]

hell chat

[hearty edge]

idk

[exotic jetty]

Imma take a guess and say between 323-1,477 am I right or am I wrong

[hearty edge]

i have 31 kinda close

[exotic jetty]

I'm a lil slow r you sayin I got it right

[hearty edge]

idk

[exotic jetty]

Fair enough

[hearty edge]

wouldnt surprise me

goes smooth as butter at 40fps

[sturdy crater]

I'm still waiting for the crucible sword to show up in DLC, wasn't it in the lore that the doom slayer killed a titan with it in the dark ages

tbf I also thought titans were only killable that way, whatever happened to that

[brazen vortex]

Caaause hugos a dick- nah im kidding, its to up the challenge, and the lives you start with is usually either 2 or 3. But I've had it go to 1, and the reason there's no life sigils in normal places is again. To increase the difficulty, it wouldn't be fun if you memorized the life sigil spawns, so theyre random

[solid nacelle]

That was in taras nabad, which was immediately after he came out of the divinity machine. I don't think we're gonna see it in this game

[sudden stump]

Yeah the Crucible has to stay inside the Taras Nabad titan until Eternal

Still want another energy style melee weapon but it most likely won't be the Crucible

[delicate grotto]

Retcon
Now it’s understood that only stronger titans, Dreadnoughts, can be killed with the Crucible. i.e Taras Nabad Dreadnought and Eternal’s Icon of Sin.

The weaker ones, like the many we see in TDA, can be killed with “normal” means.

[sudden stump]

I like to think they just eventually regenetate themselves with no crucible

They kind of wrote themselves into a corner with that anyway. Even in Eternal you see slain titans but no Crucible

[versed stone]

Dark Ages needs a no ray tracing update.

[sudden stump]

I don't think they're going to spend months (years?) redoing the maps just to support outdated hardware

[versed stone]

Who cares? It’ll at least run better on older GPUs.

[sudden stump]

The devs probably care. They have to work on DLC and patches, not redo the entire game to support hardware even more outdated than the consoles

[green estuary]

Guys really don’t understand how lighting works in video games huh

[sudden stump]

"just add an option to turn it off! It's so easy!"

[trail anvil]

To the folks using Geforce Now, has anyone lost like all of their saves and collectibles? I logged on to play today, and all my stuff was gone... like my UN run that i was in the middle of 😩

[solemn mauve]

This one gets me every single time

[mental grotto]

SSG fixed yet?

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/robotnik-eggman-aosth-sonic-the-gif-13252938

[mental grotto]

good fucking lord man this is a joke

i mean how long has it been?

nearly a month

[green estuary]

yeah update 2 dropped august 7

[mental grotto]

i love id software to death dont get me wrong, but the timeliness of bug fixes/qol changes for this game has been just sad

dont know if they're dragging on their part or if it has to do with the release of updates on different platforms or what, but man

[green estuary]

it's pretty bad

[exotic jetty]

ssg bug situation is pain

[mental grotto]

Same thing happened for the slow-mo patch where they literally had it done and decided to push it to update 2's release

which makes me wonder if it's some sort of legal or publisher issue with releasing updates on all platforms, like maybe they have to jump through some weird hoops to launch patches?

[green estuary]

they push tunables out fairly regularly

so surely that's not it

[mental grotto]

Tunables are different, it doesnt require them to launch a full-on patch, they're just able to change values and launch a sort of soft-patch i believe (someone correct me if im wrong)

[warm ibex]

was mentioned during Eternal's post-launch dev and I believe it's been mentioned again recently. each patch they push out has to go through internal approval and some sort of external platform approval, which is why they try to bundle as many things together as possible

same reason why they'd include several months worth of cosmetic events in each Eternal update. prevented them from having to keep pushing out patches and getting approvals

[mental grotto]

Thats what i suspected, and i guess the tunable patches dont have to go through those same approvals

[warm ibex]

yeah probably not

likely some level of internal approval but I'd imagine that completely cuts out platform approval (could be wrong)

[mental grotto]

Regardless of the reason, waiting 1 month for a relatively small, but also very prominent bug-fix is uh...

not great for game health

we'll put it that way

[strong moth]

Does anyone know if adding the threat indicators for Pandemonium or UN adds the M* to your file? Don’t know if it counts as a difficulty modifier or not. Saw a streamer using it and was curious

[warm ibex]

Is there a particular reason why you're asking?

[strong moth]

Well I did a pandemonium run pre-update-2, and I’m thinking of doing it again. It’s significantly tougher now based on my current Nightmare run. I’d like to use all the tools at my disposal to assist, but have some sort of weird kick where I don’t want to have that M* on my file. Basically, if I’m training for an eventual UN run, I don’t want that M* on my UN file. But I’ll use the tools otherwise.

Also I suppose I could just quickly check this myself lol

[green estuary]

well if you don't want the M* then just do it without changing sliders lmao

it'll just be easier though

[strong moth]

Yeah I’m not planning on changing the sliders, though, just toggling the threat indicators. I mean, yeah, if I want to do it “unmodified” I should just not modify it haha. Wasting everyone’s time here

[green estuary]

really odd that threat indicators cause the save file to display M*

doesn't even seem like a difficulty option, just a personal preference

[warm ibex]

I've got some freetime, I'll test to see if it actually does. give me a sec

@strong moth no, using threat indicators doesn't add the M* tag to your save

I played Village. Reached the point where you collect the blue keycard then returned to the main menu and it was displayed as an unmodified UN save file

[strong moth]

Thanks! That’s cool. I’ll play around with those when I start my Pandemonium run next. Tho I’m also thinking about cleaning up trophies in Eternal. Hard to decide what to play

[strong moth]

Forgot to tag you. Thanks!

[warm ibex]

no problem!

[exotic jetty]

Hi horde

[hard thistle]

hey, does anyone know how to unlock thew phalanx skin without the skin unlocker mod?

[exotic jetty]

What skin?

[hard thistle]

the phalanx skin

[exotic jetty]

Never heard of it

Lemme check

[hard thistle]

https://www.nexusmods.com/doomthedarkages/mods/23

[exotic jetty]

Huh that's cool I wanna know

Welp imma go c if there's a will

[hard thistle]

ok, weird that i just said that and this happens, i was playing pandamonium and just finished, i got reverent, and phalanx. i dont know if it is a bug or what, but i have it and i dont have that mod installed

[exotic jetty]

Cool

[gaunt gull]

Gonna leave this here. So I've been doing some deep dives into the weapons with a friend of mine. How much damage they deal etc. I will say, the experience has been extremely eye opening.

That said, I want to make sure I got all my bases covered. It's only two of us so we might've missed something. So I'll leave this here for anybody to look at and if someone has something to add then please let me know so I can make sure I have all information.

Side notes, I used various tests. For the health tests, it was 50% damage dealt on a cyberdemon, time to killl. For the armor test it was 50% damage dealth on a battle knight, time to overheat.

For the rune tests it was 50% damage dealth on a pinky rider, casts to kill. And for rune tests against armor it was 50% damage dealt an an armored pinky rider, casts to shatter armor.

Yeah, so if anybody has any additional insight it would be greatly appreciated

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Aoc5hyU-kG_5vM7Ya8yuW1eki7rr0CrS4cyLra3srOw/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[shadow tangle]

Hello im gonna go crazy in a second on ancestral forge every gold piece and chest has a checkmark that it is colected but im missing 16 gold

Can anyone help

[strong moth]

Must just be a couple that you haven’t gotten close enough to spot on the map. Nerathul has a couple like that too. There’s a couple that sit down off ledges. Have you seen those?

[green estuary]

if you have the game on PC, it would be more efficient to just use atlan resource extractor to look at the game files

[shadow tangle]

Ok imma try to find them

If i don't eat my keyboard first

[gaunt gull]

First time I'm hearing about this. This on nexus mods?

[green estuary]

https://github.com/FlavorfulGecko5/EntityAtlan/releases/tag/Extractor

[shadow tangle]

It was literally on some wooden platform off ledge thank you so much

I thought you always see all questionmarks on the map

[gaunt gull]

And this will get me more precise damage numbers? Ok, I'll take a look at it. Thanks

[green estuary]

yeah
and enemy hp values and a bunch of other stuff

the damage values are in the rs_streamfile/generated/decls/damage folder

[shadow tangle]

Oh and btw i want to ask is quickswap to high damage weapons as effective in this game as in eternal? Cause i came up with a couple of cool combos with weapon swaps but i feel like it was stronger in eternal

And idk if it's worth to do that

But it probably is if you have a good single target combo

Like throwing the shield to charge "the spike gun" and then switch to super shotgun

And deal massive damage

Or is it better to spam one high dmg weapon

[green estuary]

holding down the fire button and alternating weapon hotkeys doesn't cancel the reload animations, no
but you can sorta quickswap with the shield
for example, shield throw or shield bash in between reloads lets you bypass the cooldown on weapons like the ssg, impaler, or chainshot

[shadow tangle]

Interesting

A skilled player can for sure do some crazy combos

[green estuary]

but also the meta has shifted a lot
automatic weapons like the accelerator/cycler (or even the rocket launcher in some instances) are almost always better for focusing down a single bullet-sponge enemy because most of them have charge-up conditions that let them deal insane dps
whereas your bigger guns (with the exception of the impaler, it's just broken in every use case) are better for very high burst damage and combos with the shield or melee weapons, but don't have the sustained dps of the automatic weapons

[uneven mortar]

Is the SSG fixed

[gaunt gull]

While I haven't looked at the files yet, I can add some insight from my tests.

Some of the highest damaging moves are modified moves with the top being cooked rockets and ricochet shredder rounds. The rocket launcher with the cook branch but uncooked rockets was one of the worst performing weapons. It was a shock and a mistake on my part since I thought any old parry could cook the rocket. But no, onyly projectile parries can. After that, it has one of the highest non BFC shots. (Side note, if you go for the blood sacrifice, you don't get the highs of the cooked rocket launcher but you don't get the lows of uncooked rockets either).

The shredder ricochet also melted enemies at an absurdly high rate.

The grenade launcher, ricochet, and rocket launcher with cooked rockets were the 3 highest damage dealers.

[green estuary]

regular rockets deal 1000 direct + 4000-5000 splash damage
blood sacrifice rockets deal the same direct damage but 4500-6500 splash damage
and parry charged rockets deal the same splash damage as base rockets but 12000 direct damage

so blood sacrifice is just a straight 18% damage upgrade, while cooked is more situational

[hearty edge]

welp there's no way to regenerate if ur brain is also gone

also titan's realm in 2016 exists and there's no crucible there

[fervent maple]

How do people use Ricochet? I never found any use for it

[strong moth]

Yeah every time I miss gold in a level it’s that sort of thing. There’s one in Harbor of Souls and one in Ryuul that I miss when I’m not thinking

[hearty edge]

was that one the one that bounces or the one that explodes

i think that's the one that bounces

i guess it could be good for large enemies that are surrounded by lots of fodder/smaller heavies but idk why you'd really choose it over pincussion

[green estuary]

just toss the shield into a tanky enemy (mancubus/whiplash/caco are the best ones) and just let it rip

absolutely insane crowd control

[fervent maple]

It always targets some imp offscreen for me lmao

I've seen people use it easily but I'm not sure it's for me

[gaunt gull]

This one became one of my favorites even before the tests. Find a medium health enemy, shield stun, then shoot it. The ricochet rounds will begin bouncing to everyone in the vicinity. If there's only one target, it'll hone in on that guy. If there are multiple, it'll cycle through all of them in rapid succession. If there is none, it'll bounce everywhere. I've also seen it lock onto nightmare imps that are still invisible.

And let me tell you, that ricochet is nasty. If you want DPS don't shoot the guy but ricochet into him.

Few things to note is that the ricochet range is really small. Also, have seen a bug where it doesn't recognize a target is in range. When that happens, stop firing for just a brief moment then go back to it.

Another benefit. Ricochet is a good way to deal damage to enemies without exposing yourself. Pick a demon, expose yourself to only him, then let the ricochet clear everyone else out.

[hearty edge]

okay hearing you all it does make me think ricochet is better than pincushion

[exotic jetty]

Ricochet is better

[hearty edge]

chat what skin do you get for beating pandemonium

[fervent maple]

Thanks, this is the answer I was hoping for :)

[fervent maple]

And thanks to u as well

[green estuary]

it really depends
ricochet seems to have a much higher dps to more enemies, but it also requires you to temporarily lose your shield
pincushion has comparatively worse area damage but it's a guaranteed falter to a whole crowd of enemies, and it's very versatile, with fully upgraded pincushion detonating from a shield toss, shield charge, or a parry

[gaunt gull]

From my experience ricochet has insane DPS even on single targets. Far higher than base shredder and even the pincushion. The downside is that you need someone to shield stun for that to happen. Also the range of the ricochet is very small.

[green estuary]

I'm like 95% sure that the shredder deals the exact same damage to the primary target with or without ricochet
the kill time may be slightly faster, but that's due to the shield saw's DOT

[hearty edge]

doom

[green estuary]

although then again there may be a decl file I've overlooked

[gaunt gull]

So I think I should make sure we're on the same page.

I first noticed something up in Belly of the Beast I was at 50% damage. I shield stunned the nightmare imp the hid while I ricochet off of it. By the time the shield stun was done, the armored arachnatron and the second nightmare imp were both dead from ricochet while the shield stunned imp was still alive.

Then I saw something identical while testing it in the ripatorium. The shredder took forever to kill a cyberdemon but when I ricochet into it, it melted.

[exotic jetty]

Beans

[green estuary]

seems like I misunderstood you--ricochet does indeed deal higher damage to surrounding targets than the base target, but the primary target takes the same damage regardless of whether or not ricochet is active
regular shredder projectiles deal 900 damage each, ricocheted projectiles deal 1200 damage each, and ricocheted projectiles with the wraithstone upgrade deal 1650 damage each

[gaunt gull]

Good, so we're on the same page now. Yeah the bouncing rivets deal crazy damage.

[silent trail]

Any time line on when the Super shotgun bug will be fixed?

[fervent maple]

Nop

[silent trail]

darn, because it's been messing up my pandimonium runs

[exotic jetty]

[wintry forge]

It’s messed up an UN run for me. Hasn’t been too bad other than a couple occasions

[silent trail]

there was one run where the bug wasn't present. I don't know how that happened, but if I could replicate it, I would.

[merry sapphire]

genuinely can't believe its been almost a month since the update and the ssg still isnt fixed

[midnight kayak]

whats wrong with the ssg

[merry sapphire]

bugged

you cant block when using it

[silent trail]

you can't block until it's cycled it's entire firing and loading animation

[merry sapphire]

making it a suicidal weapon on higher difficulties

[midnight kayak]

ahhh

i dont play dsrk ages

[exotic jetty]

Goated display name

[merry sapphire]

water 💦 you doing here then

[wintry forge]

Preciate it, I use it on most platforms lmao

[exotic jetty]

Cool

[gaunt gull]

Mind if I harass you for a bit longer? I've run the Atlan resource extractor. It's created an 'atlan' folder in the designated location. Where would I find the metadata for the weapon damage values?

[brave spoke]

I think I owe a sincere apology to the gauntlets because I didn’t use these things at all in my first play through

[green estuary]

Gun damage is found under rs_streamfile/generated/decls/damage/damage/firearm

[dark thunder]

so wats goin on with this radio silence

[dreamy kiln]

Most of us are asleep

[dark thunder]

I mean from da game

[dreamy kiln]

Oh, well they did just release a new update last month so they're probably working on the dlc

[dark thunder]

wheres da ssg shield fix wheres da weekly streams

[solid nacelle]

Hopefully we'll find out this Thursday

If there's no stream this week I'm going to lose it

[stoic forge]

Is it just me or is ||kreed|| too easy? I just beat it on UV, second attempt.

[stoic forge]

What needs fixing?

[dark thunder]

supershotgun and shield bug

[green estuary]

Yeah Kreed isn’t very tough
He’s a lot of fun but he’s about as much of a pushover as you’d expect him to be
Enhanced ahzrak on the other hand is a whole different ballgame

[stoic forge]

Maybe I’ve experienced that; what’s the bug exactly?

[dark thunder]

fight a aggadon hunter, it feels weird and the shield doesn't feel responsive enough when parrying with the ssg after shooting

[stoic forge]

Yeah I’m not looking forward to that on this run. It wasn’t bad on HMP but that’s very easy compared to UV

[stoic forge]

I thought I was just having skill issue. I have a hard time with the timing with Barons currently

And Komodos

[dark thunder]

yeah its only with the ssg and its crazy annoying and even more crazy how it hasn't been fixed yet

[stoic forge]

Yeah cuz that’s how you’re supposed to fight them right? Shield/ssg/melee and combos of that.

[fervent maple]

Not just the SSG, just about every weapon (minus the plasma and spike weapons) has suffered this to a minor extent. The SSG is just the most egregious one

I've experienced it multiple times with the Chainshot

[uneven mortar]

Have they said anything yet? When does Hugo stream? This is ridiculous

[green estuary]

Yeah it’s getting really tiresome at this point that a bug that affects gameplay this much has gone unaddressed

Not only that but the complete radio silence as well

[uneven mortar]

It's completely unprofessional to treat paying customers this way, it's an expensive game and this is base campaign content

People paid for a game that works, if there's an issue with that there needs to be communication

[green estuary]

it's extra weird because id is normally so good at communicating with their playerbase

[merry sapphire]

agreed

the thing that pisses me off is that they already rolled a fix before, but they un-did it because it allows you to quick switch faster

[fervent maple]

I figured they undid it for some other reason, like putting it in a bigger update or something

They like to save small things for big content drops for whatever reason

I hope it isn't just because of a quick switch exploit... that's valve removing bhopping levels of dumb

[warm ibex]

I think the chainshot bug has been a thing since launch, too

or at least since patch 1. it's never worked properly

[unkempt dragon]

hi @warm ibex

[fervent maple]

Bruh. That sucks if so

[wheat sigil]

i don't see why that would be the case

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/bola-amarilla-gif-1987018278379854066

[fervent maple]

They've not pulled back changes like they did here, but they have kept changes that could be implemented in a hotfix for big updates. An infamous one I remember was keeping a fix for the Dread Knight's slam dealing like 400 damage for a later update.

[dark thunder]

the game is fun but its kinda losing momentum ngl

[warm ibex]

it's a strictly single player experience with a lower focus on bonus post-launch content, I'm not so sure it needs constant momentum

[dark thunder]

I mean in terms of content like compared to eternal

or im just being greedy

actually, im lying, it's only been like 3 months, it's felt longer lol

[warm ibex]

greedy definitely isn't the right word lol, I just think a lot of people need to readjust their expectations after eternal

[dark thunder]

nvm they in a good position i didn't realize it's only been like 3 months lol

[warm ibex]

only three months is crazy, I didn't realize that either

[dark thunder]

its felt way longer thats prob why

[molten holly]

true

[merry sapphire]

@harsh egret see?! im not Crazy!

[merry jackal]

chainshot needs a nerf man

i just spam it 90% and beat the stages

[vivid flicker]

Whats going on here

[pine sky]

what's the command 😁

it'd be fun in ripatorium

[vivid flicker]

I do agree that its really strong i just use other weapons and switch them sometimes

You dont have to use it

[merry jackal]

ill try 🫡

[meager vortex]

nerf already

[sage schooner]

Even at 50% damage?

[sour oar]

THIS GAME FUCKS SO HARD

NOTHING BETTER THAN PLAYING TDA WHILE 9 MODELOS DEEP YEEHAW

NIGHTMARE DIFF

NO SLO MO ❤️

[harsh egret]

idk, im trying it rn and i dont see it

ofc theres a slight delay but i feel like there should be lmao

[uneven mortar]

We are gonna get silksong before SSG fix 😢 😢 😢

[stoic forge]

Wait no slow mo? Really?

[burnt finch]

Yes but this doesnt make sense
I'm playing with default settings %150 speed and 3 life sigil capacity
I only found 1 in first level and I couldnt find life sigils in other levels if I would want a challange I would set life sigil capacity 0 or 1

This is stupid its already 3 capacities but there is only 1 life sigil
then what is the point of pandemonium difficulty even ultra nightmare has life sigils but they are just works as megahealth

They added difficulty sliders so why didnt they make this optional
if I'm playing pandemonium with 3 life sigil capacity those life sigils has to be exist in every level
if I'm playing 1 life sigil capacity then there has to be 1 life sigil
if 0 then there shouldnt be life sigil
but I'm playing with 3 life sigil capacity but there is only 1 life sigil exist in one level
this doesnt make sense
they should change that

[frank turtle]

actually

and gta 6

[exotic jetty]

Frfr

[frank turtle]

one of my least used weapons I just don't like the charge up on it

[sour oar]

yes my fellow slayer

its so much better on a 2nd playthrough

[stoic forge]

I’m struggling on UV tho. Maybe I’ll try NM after Silksong

[stoic forge]

I pull it out when I can skip charge up by parrying projectiles.

[vital hearth]

It’s good but I don’t think it’s that good at least not without the parry upgrade

[lament lotus]

Honestly I use the Pulverizer probably too much. If you have Runic Strike with the Flail, every enemy affected by the later contributes to charging

It's surprisingly effective against cyberdemons as its wings also get caught by the skulls

[solid nacelle]

Oh yeah cause of the area of effect

That's a funny oversight

[fervent maple]

Imagine they patch that out right now but the SSG stays bugged

[warm ibex]

that would be the funniest possible outcome

[fervent maple]

We would live in a reality where the Pulverizer has been nerfed twice

[gentle jetty]

Why is the bethesda login not working on Xbox series X is something up?

[covert goblet]

Kreed the hutt

[scenic lichen]

ID SOFTWARE!!! FIX THE SSG AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!

[hasty stone]

are they gonna cancel the stream again tomorrow 🙂

[upbeat junco]

im hugo's streaming pc and i can confidently say that i'll delay the stream by 2 cosmic realm trips

[exotic jetty]

So 3hrs

[upbeat junco]

circa

[exotic jetty]

What's that mean?

[upbeat junco]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1122224504576430093/1412888830943432754/image.png?ex=68b9eec3&is=68b89d43&hm=7146fe6a57fd36f6c25d2eea66f5ae4e89988623b44bef7b9e7b2d4f81a7cddf&

[exotic jetty]

Thx

[hasty stone]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVTSk32Szh8

[harsh egret]

they want u to think they are streaming tmr

[hasty stone]

lol

[solid nacelle]

Something will go wrong just watch

[solemn mauve]

Hugo, you better give us an update in the livestream

[hasty stone]

hope not im off tomorrow so i can watch this time 🙂

[harsh egret]

"ssg fix on the way" for the next 3 streams

[solemn mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-duck-sleep-gif-12073235593935901891

[harsh egret]

just dont get ur hopes up

[hasty stone]

i wonder when the DLC will come out

im guessing in 2026 since its only 1 it's gonna be long...

which is fine to me, i prefer 1 bigger DLC

[harsh egret]

my prediction was mid february

[stoic forge]

Well you were right. Enhanced Azrak took me over 2hrs to beat on UV.

[green estuary]

ggs man

he's really tough on a first playthrough
and still hard even on repeat playthroughs tbh

just super aggressive with a bunch of different attacks

[stone comet]

True

[barren warren]

patch notes for the next update gonna be like:

• Increased Super Shotgun reload time by 200%
• Reduced Super Shotgun damage vs. Hellknight, Mancubus, Pinky Rider, Cosmic Baron by 100%
• Reduced Super Shotgun damage vs. armored demons by -100%, healing them
• The Shield Saw cannot be used when the Super Shotgun is equipped
• Successful Cacodemon attacks now have a chance to steal your credit card information

[merry sapphire]

really dont like id's style of bundling fixes in one huge update, clearly some fixes take bigger priority than others

cant even enjoy the new ripatorium update due to how bad the game feels now

[green estuary]

"how bad the game feels now"
bro it's just one weapon 😂

[harsh egret]

i think thats a slight exaggeration lol

the rippatorium has been pretty fun even with the ssg bug imo

and like i know lots of ppl want it fixed but complaining so much about it just gets kinda annoying

it shouldnt annoy me this much but it is xd

[green estuary]

you've got 11 standard guns lmao
as annoying as the ssg bug is, it's not like the game is unplayable without it

[harsh egret]

like i open this chat at any time and its always something about the ssg bug and im like ughhh yeah im good

[merry sapphire]

thats fair you right. im just really annoyed about this cause of how much i like the game

ill try not to mention it as much

[harsh egret]

lets at least wait until tmr :d

[merry sapphire]

honestly almost all of the weapons feel off. thought i was imagining this but someone else had the same experiance as me, its just that the ssg is the most egregious one

[merry sapphire]

why tommorow?

[stoic forge]

Yeah this is my 2nd playthrough but HMP did not in fact hurt me plenty. UV is hard.

[harsh egret]

cuz hugo stream

[merry sapphire]

hope this one doesnt get cancelled 💔

[harsh egret]

if they scheduled it already then im sure its set in stone

unless the sun explodes

[merry sapphire]

wasn't that true for the last 2 streams

[harsh egret]

nah not this early

[merry sapphire]

i doubt its gonna get cancelled a third time cause by then then something would def be wrong

[harsh egret]

2 streams ago they had some tech issue that wasnt fixed in time, but the stream was still on
and last week stream im pretty sure had the schedule set up pretty close to the stream start

[merry sapphire]

hope all is good for them. im wondering what the tech issue is since streaming doesnt require crazy technology

actually i take that back they do alot of editing mid streams

[harsh egret]

im sure the fact that hugo and josh are in different locations doesnt help

[merry sapphire]

id software's one shared xbox got the red ring of death

[merry sapphire]

they are?

doesnt hugo stream from his home?

or was that just for the eternal streams

[harsh egret]

from josh's home?

[merry sapphire]

no hugo's home

[harsh egret]

wouldnt that mean they are in different locations still then xd

[merry sapphire]

oh i thought you meant like different countries lmao

hugo should give his dog a cameo again in the streams

he had a dog right

[harsh egret]

hugo doesnt stream from home now

[merry sapphire]

yeah no corona now

ngl i prefered him streaming from his home, felt more authentic if that makes sense

[harsh egret]

lol ye his setup is too professional now

[merry sapphire]

its too well organized and neat 💔

his next stream should be from his phone with blaring loud notification sounds

[solemn meadow]

i just noticed something
why are we still having the Doom Quest item?
from what i am reading it should be gone by the 12th of July
not that im complaining but
huh?

[harsh egret]

pretty sure that should be gone for everyone no?

[merry sapphire]

nitro users get to keep stuff like that forever

both of you have nitro so it doesn't expire

[harsh egret]

oh ye he said item

i thought he meant the quest in general

[merry sapphire]

if i bought nitro i would be able to put it right back

[solemn meadow]

im reading mixed things
some say its extended
some say its forever

[merry sapphire]

from what i know it should be forever

these quests are all designed to make you buy nitro

[solemn meadow]

well lets hope so

[warm ibex]

that's what I've been thinking for the past two fucking weeks man 😭

https://tenor.com/view/g-gif-12751142829355784403

type shit

[harsh egret]

Literally me

[mental grotto]

Day 29 of wait until tmrw lul

[harsh egret]

Or think of it like this... hugo said the fix will be out friday or monday, but didnt say which friday or monday

[mental grotto]

Friday or Monday 2028

[solid nacelle]

It comes out after the next game does

[stoic forge]

As a Hollowknight fan I think this whining is silly lol. Doom put out 2 video games before Silksong comes out.

Waiting a week for slightly broken game to fix seems insignificant

[green estuary]

this is equivalent to saying “people in Africa are starving, so why are you complaining about not eating for a couple days”

you don’t suddenly achieve moral high ground because a game you’re a fan of took a long time to release

the bug affects gameplay in a significant way, so people have the right to complain about it

[warm ibex]

And no one (outside of voldeneye I guess) is saying that you shouldn't complain about it

just that regurgitating the same ten or so recycled messages day after day isn't exactly doing a lot for conversation in this chat

[green estuary]

yeah whether or not it gets annoying is a different matter
And it certainly does lmao

[warm ibex]

complaining is awesome, it's like my favorite hobby

repeating the same complaint in the same way daily for like two weeks straight isn't as awesome lol

[wicked shoal]

Does anyone know why doom the dark ages doesnt run too well on my computer?

[green estuary]

If I had to guess, it’s because your hardware sucks

but without any more info I can’t really tell you

[wicked shoal]

Microsoft says my computer meets all of the requirements i'd need to run it but it can barely do so

[green estuary]

well do you know what models your cpu/gpu are at least

[wicked shoal]

2050

[green estuary]

sorry dawg Microsoft is lying to you

minimum requirement for TDA is a 2060 iirc

[wicked shoal]

Okay then

atleast i got it on gamepass

[hearty edge]

it also does that to me but its false

it still runs with my witchcraft but it's below minimum requirements

[strong moth]

Just finished my post update 2 nightmare run. I felt that it was my favorite run so far. I don’t feel a major issue with the SSG? But I never use it much anyway. The updates to arenas are awesome. New Kreed and Old One fight slap. 11/10 will play through at least 3 more times

I mainly only ever use SSG as my “shield dash into SSG” delete move for Arachnotrons, Acolytes, and Revenants

[green estuary]

yeah that's pretty much what it's limited to now unfortunately

[drowsy aurora]

Used to be great to delete armor on enemies

[green estuary]

well I've heard they're planning on reverting it back to pre-update 2 specs

[drowsy aurora]

And it could OHKO Hell Knights

It shouldn't have changed to begin with imo.

I'm wanting it as bad as others, but I know they are gonna take they're time to put it out. Game's still fun at the end of the day

[green estuary]

no that should be changed
but instead of nerfing the ssg against specifically hell knights, they should just beef up hell knights

[drowsy aurora]

The only nerfs I was ok with were impailer and Dreadmace

But that's because those weps are still good xD

It's funny, the people who were all for "Nerfing weapons to make others useable"...now less guns are viable in the late game, resuluting in a more stagnated way of play towards the end of the game.

Instead of listening to a loud, very local minority on the "OP power of DOOM Slayer's Kit", I would have buffed the weaker weapons like Shredder, Flail, Grenade Launcer, and other weapons that are just outclassed in every way.

[strong moth]

Shredder has been one of my favorite weapons since my first playthrough. I used it a ton on my Pandemonium and new Nightmare runs. I’m under the impression that Shredder is quite good

[green estuary]

the impaler nerf was barely a nerf tbh
headshot damage actually got buffed

[strong moth]

Cycler and Pulverizer and Grenade Launcher are the ones I never touch haha

[drowsy aurora]

It CAN be good, don't get me wrong. It's still outclassed by the sheer power of Impaler

[green estuary]

the cycler unironically might be better than the accelerator

[strong moth]

I like Impaler fine, and it’s clearly strong, but it lacks the visual and tactile OOMPH that I’m looking for haha

[strong moth]

That’s what I hear everyone say I just don’t ever enjoy using it lol

[green estuary]

the shock effect is so satisfying
when you get it upgraded, you can nearly permastun a superheavy by killing shocked demons around it

and to boot shocked enemies take 20% extra damage from all sources, not just the cycler

that includes bosses

[drowsy aurora]

But yeah, as much as the SSG nerfs suck and were unwarraented, I think the game is still really good. Just think there should be more discretion before we merk weapons for "being too strong"

Not everyone who plays this game is a sweat or a speedrunner. Some people just like the power fantasy.

[strong moth]

I really enjoy the game. Didn’t really use Ground Fissure or Power Gauntlet until this playthrough and now I never want to stop using them hahaha

[green estuary]

well the people who say it doesn't make you earn the power fantasy are being disingenuous

because while it's not as mechanically difficult (simply put, there are less buttons to push) as eternal, it's just as hard to not die lol

[drowsy aurora]

I'm def one of the players who like challenge. Currently trying to do a UN run of this game and 2016. Swapping back and forth based on my mood

[midnight kayak]

i heard the movement isnt as fast as eternal

i dunno

[drowsy aurora]

You're not as fast in the air

[green estuary]

I really doubt I'll ever do a UN run of a doom game tbh
my gameplay spikes up and down way too often

[green estuary]

base movement speed is faster, as you can sprint
but eternal has dashing and meathooking so you can go quite a bit faster there if you want to

[strong moth]

I feel like the core movement in Dark Ages is faster with the Shield Dash and all

[green estuary]

that said, shield charge is huge in regards to mobility

[drowsy aurora]

It's not for everyone honestly, and as someone who does UN runs, these weapon nerfs are why I kind of smh sometimes. Lmao.

[strong moth]

Oh beat me to it

[drowsy aurora]

The hardest part of a UN run is the early game.

And that's for EVERY game

[green estuary]

for 2016 easily

maybe for eternal as well but there are some big exceptions

TDA I'd say gets significantly harder after the first few levels

[scenic lichen]

I did UN 2016 and UN eternal twice, currently not looking forward to TDA UN shit looks brutal af

Betting you most of my deaths would be at siege p1

[drowsy aurora]

Siege P1 is scary

[green estuary]

huh

[scenic lichen]

Siege p1 is way harder than cultist base for me

[exotic jetty]

How?

It easy

[scenic lichen]

probably because I played eternal sm but then again some of those arenas got me fucked up

[drowsy aurora]

The one encounter with the first Cyberdemon and Mortar Mancubi

[green estuary]

nah siege part 1 is by far the hardest early game level in tda

yeah that armored manc leader fight can be brutal

[drowsy aurora]

It's so easy to just eat 100+ HP if you get caught in a bad spot

[exotic jetty]

Wait my UN playthrough on seige p1 there was no cyberdemon?

[green estuary]

I'm 99% sure there was always a cyberdemon in siege part 1

[drowsy aurora]

There is

It's the first time you see one too

[exotic jetty]

I didn't see one I got arachnotron

[green estuary]

there are a bunch of arachnotrons, but there are 2 fights (or more, not sure) where you run in to a cyber

[green estuary]

nah you fight one in the holy city level remember

[drowsy aurora]

Ohhh right, with Serrat

My bad

[scenic lichen]

I might wait until all of the balance patches are out to do pandemonium and UN

[exotic jetty]

Didn't see cyberdemon on UN until the forge level in the after the aggadon hunter

[drowsy aurora]

I'm still attempting them, but ngl...the SSG nerfs are gonna make it more tricky. Esp when armored's start spawning more frequently then unarmoreds.

[scenic lichen]

Yeah I tried update 2 for a bit but I stopped cuz I want the ssg to be fixed

I can live with the impaler being busted, I just won’t use it but I at least want the ssg to be Yknow, not bugged

[drowsy aurora]

The bug is the icing on the cake tbh xD

Not only is the weapon just bad now, it's just broken on top of it.

[strong moth]

After 6 playthroughs and 90 hours I gotta say that I think the Shredder, Ravager, Accelerator, and Power Gauntlet are my favorite weapons

After first playthrough, I was a Chainshot, Dreadmace, Heaven Splitter guy. Things changed a lot haha

[gaunt gull]

Weapon testing update. Going through the damage numbers for the files, many of them do line up with what I have doing the physical tests with about a max 5% variance. Example being the impaler. I can confirm that an uncharged chronospike does more damage than the uncharged salvage. However I still need to find that damage values for the charged chronospike and charged salvage to confirm when charged salvage does more damage than chrono. In fact, this rings true for multiple weapons such as the grenade launcher cluster bombs.

Same with blood sacrifice rocket. During testing, Blood Sacrifice did significantly more damage than the Cooked upgrade when you didn't cook the rockets. So dmg numbers listed for charge and uncharged rockets match the Uncooked and Cooked difference but I need blood sacrifice.

That said the awkward naming convention is throwing me for a loop when it comes to a few ones.

The shotgun damage value seems impossibly low. I know it has spread but when a single shredder rivet does 500 damage and it lists 28 in the shotgun file, I think I just have the wrong file.

Pulverizer and ravager are a bit more reasonable at 200 and 150 per bone shard combined with how many bone shards they throw at once. However, I need to find the damage value for a charged pulverizer as despite its description a charged pulverizer consumes ammo at the same rate as an uncharged pulverizer. So either its fires faster without increasing ammo consumption. Or it doesn't fire faster but increases damage. If the latter, I need to find its value in the files.

End of update

[brave spoke]

In UN I genuinely didn’t find that level all that hard

I think the only part that was close for me was the stupid vagary that spawns next to the upgrade station and Thats because I forgot it was there lol

Also Jesus I hate these hitscan enemies so much

Everyone ping fail lmfao

[green estuary]

the mancubus leader encounter with the cyberdemon is very tricky
expecially now that they've added respawning enemies once the leader shield drops

[brave spoke]

Eh I didn’t find any trouble with it honestly

[green estuary]

when did you do your UN run?

[brave spoke]

By that point I have my shield fully upgraded and my combat shotgun

[brave spoke]

I’m still on it lol

[green estuary]

oh lmao

[brave spoke]

I just finished the spire

Annoying ass level I hate the cacodemons and arachnatron placement

[green estuary]

huge missed opportunity to add a big final fight when you return to the beginning arena

they totally should have done that

[brave spoke]

I love hitting a caco with an empowered rocket and it takes no damage

[gaunt gull]

I find it interesting how differing people's experiences are with the arenas. Even now I still don't find that Mancubus Cyberdemon arena in Siege p1 to be that hard. Meanwhile when I mentioned my hardest arena is in Belly of the Beast people often go "well, that room is optional".

No, that room was easy for me too. The FIRST room was a freakin nightmare. Seiging Arachnatron Hill might as well have been the Siege P3. Then you have an acolyte summoner with a baron and two hell knights. Which aren't bad by themselves but I keep having purple shit spawning beneath my feet.

[stoic forge]

I just finished UV. Hate the witch.

[gaunt gull]

Speaking of which, I still need a better tactic for the summoner acolyte. All I have right now is spawncamp with BFC

[solemn mauve]

ikr, but I'm pretty sure that will happen in the master level version of the spire

[brave spoke]

Tbf if you upgrade the chainshot and the impaler its pretty easy

Just deal wih the cyberdemon as soon as you can

[gaunt gull]

Wrong room. The first room doesn't have cyberdemons.

[brave spoke]

I meant the siege arena

With the mancubus and cyberdemon

Its got what a bunch of stalker imps, hell knights, cyberdemon and then once you take down the leader shield it spawns hell knights and arachnotrons right

[brave spoke]

Oh yeah and the 2 mancubi that instantly die because theyre standing next to barrels

[gaunt gull]

You don't even need the guns. Powa gauntlet powa foeva. The punches turn the cyberdemons to ground beef. Especially if the adds give you even mor ehell surges

[brave spoke]

Yeah im doing UN and haven’t upgraded the flail at all lmfao

[gaunt gull]

I remember for my UN the only things I upgraded were my gauntlet, ground fissure (I hadn't decided what was the best rune yet), pulverizer, and ricochet shredder. Those 3 carried me.

[brave spoke]

I havent upgraded the shredder at all lol

Combat shotgun, impaler and rocket launcher are carrying me rn

[gaunt gull]

Before I did UN I decided to play at 500% damage taken 50% damage dealt. Remember me complaining about Arachnatron Hill? Had an incident where I was messing around with the ricochet shredder. Saw stunned a nightmare imp, then shot him from behind cover. By the time the saw stun was done, the ricochet had killed the armored arachnatron and the second nightmare imp.

I was absolutely blown away and I knew that this was a gun I needed for UN.

[brave spoke]

I just use the chainshot for arachnotrons since 1 shot on an unarmored immediately puts it into execution

Or shield bash into ssg / combat (if i need armor)

[gaunt gull]

I've been using the grenade launcher a lot for that section lately. Because those two nightmare imps block all my shots at range and I get lit up in a 3 way if I shield charge in. So with the grenades I can lob them over those annoying energy nets

[brave spoke]

Also imo for runes its either ground fissure or heaven splitter

[gaunt gull]

I had run Ground fissure because at the time I had believed that it was the best anti-armor rune since my guns and gauntlet could melt health.

But my recent tests have shown I was wrong about that.

[brave spoke]

I run it for armor mostly

Once i get heaven splitter it gets replaced

[gaunt gull]

I don't use heaven splitter much. Nowadays it's either swarm or shoulder cannon. I guess it's because I like to melee so much and stunned enemies don't give me hell surges.

[brave spoke]

I appreciate the stun it gives when im dealing with acolytes, cosmic barons, cacos and revenants

Especially revenants

[gaunt gull]

Maybe I have been underappreciating the stun function. It's mostly the acolytes that give me conniptions. But I never like playing the waiting game with cacos. Also might be a good counter for the annoying stone imps.

[brave spoke]

Oh yeah also the stun is nice if youre fighting like a komodo and you have a charged rocket

One area that comes to mind is that little secret area in spire that has the komodo, caco and battle knight once you kill the caco

[brave spoke]

Just farm the battle knight for charged rockets lmfao

Plus that caco is a real pain in the ass blocking your shots, especially when komodos are pretty annoying so getting a stun on both of them is pretty nice

[merry sapphire]

if cacos are like that in this game what the fuck is id software gonna do with pain elementals

[maiden rampart]

Hey

Would you help me with an error in Doom Eternal

[worthy lagoon]

Diablos

.

[leaden stone]

This is TDAs channel, we have a #doom-eternal channel. Just because aware we're not DOOM official support. You'll be best raising any issues with Zenimax support

[solar spoke]

Hi all, the stream's definitely on tonight?

[upbeat junco]

I'm Hugo's streaming pc I'm barely clinging to life but yes i try

[solar spoke]

lol, thank you for your service 😂

[merry sapphire]

is the stream today or tommorow

[midnight cedar]

https://www.youtube.com/live/HVTSk32Szh8?si=bbGWpxdkpH-ioiAa

9 hours

[maiden onyx]

given how powerful the existing weapons are as a base? How effective do you guys think nukes would have been on the sentinel / hell war?

[merry sapphire]

they wouldn't have made much difference due to the seemingly infinite horde

sentinals usually focused on bases and such to disrupt formations and tactics and such, and these usually have anti air cannons

so they wouldnt be able to launch a nuke there

[wintry forge]

Seeing the Slayer launch a sentinel nuke in a game would be awesome

[exotic jetty]

My favorite part of tda is when the doomslayer said "ITS DOOMIN TIME" and he dark aged allover the demons

[frail slate]

just got a 3.9 GB update for TDA anyone has the patch notes?

[solid nacelle]

Holy shit there is

[harsh egret]

holy shit yeah 3.9 gigs

[solid nacelle]

5.26 on xbox

Fucking finally

[harsh egret]

well fuck silksong since servers are fucked

time to check this

SSG IS FIXED

https://tenor.com/view/weekend-party-champagne-gif-18280013

[solid nacelle]

Let's go

[harsh egret]

thats an old one.

[solar spoke]

the world is at peace again 😁

[solar spoke]

sorry, my mistake

[solid nacelle]

I'm guessing the quick swapping is gone

For ssg

[harsh egret]

@uneven mortar there u go

@frail bloom ssg is fixed

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[alpine pilot]

is there a changelog?

[harsh egret]

not yet

they always do this, u gotta wait like 1 or 2 hours

[uneven mortar]

HUGE

Any idea what the whole update is about?

[harsh egret]

all i know is that ssg is feeling good

[solid nacelle]

They're still promoting the quakecon skin in-game even though it's past September 1st lmao

[frosty pine]

I’ll try it later my disc drive is occupied by battlefield 4 rn and I wanna play it

Gotta get those operation locker grinding hours in

[harsh egret]

also i could be wrong but i THINK the ssg got some dmg buff

so far only shot some cosmic barons for a bit to test the ssg

but i swear im doing a bit more dmg

[solar spoke]

gonna try it out now once the update's installed

[barren warren]

how many shots did it take, pre update 2 was about 5 to stagger

[solid nacelle]

Yeah they didn't keep switching to other weapons during ssg reload but that was a given

[solar spoke]

They did say in the last stream that they would buff it slightly. I don't think'll we'll be back to one shotting hell knights but it'll be nice to have some power back

[harsh egret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/491020118780805140/1413181343596019732/vlc-record-2025-09-04-17h16m09s-DOOM_The_Dark_Ages_2025.09.04_-_17.14.39.02.DVR.mp4-.mp4?ex=68baff2f&is=68b9adaf&hm=df4a9565dcd0d50c9cb99999d71fe59d22c400eaf575f7558f6a9017b39aa8d3&

[barren warren]

it’s beautiful

[harsh egret]

it might be a "per demon" thing

the hellknights not being oneshottable is fine by me

[bold spear]

Anyone know what's in that patch?

[harsh egret]

no patch notes out yet.

[solid nacelle]

I just noticed the doom slayer blinks on the main menu

[solar spoke]

same, the chainshot is already more than enough for them

[harsh egret]

wait no they added hella pickups to the rippatorium

i just realised now lel

https://tenor.com/view/sarcastic-clap-gif-8766590078260538864

[solid nacelle]

Oh yeah there's a bunch

So much

I wonder if they respawn

[harsh egret]

doesnt seem like they do

[maiden onyx]

bro i literally just watched the internship

[stray urchin]

is it just me or does weapon swap speed feel slower now, specifically when you fire combat shotgun into ssg

[solemn mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/black-man-gun-camera-gun-pointing-at-camera-gif-25888489

[exotic jetty]

It depends on the speed you choose in the settings

[solar spoke]

just played it and it feels absolutely sublime

[harsh egret]

[uneven mortar]

There's a weapon swap speed settinf??

[exotic jetty]

No it is speed setting it effects every5hing in the game

[uneven mortar]

Oh

[harsh egret]

i dont feel a difference in weapon swap speed

[exotic jetty]

I do

[harsh egret]

out of curiosity when did u last play the game

[exotic jetty]

Yesterday

[topaz oasis]

hey guys, there's a dude, most likely a scammer or something fishy like that asking me to pay him to "improve" my YT channel

he DM'd me from this server, how can I report him?

[harsh egret]

weird

[scenic lichen]

TDA got a patch??

[harsh egret]

yes ssg got fixed among other things

[scenic lichen]

FUCK YEAH

[topaz oasis]

oh really?

[scenic lichen]

time to make a new save until I can play silksong

[topaz oasis]

niceee

[exotic jetty]

Finally

[harsh egret]

been spamming steam for the past 2 hours almost myself