the-dark-ages

[wheat sigil]

and presumably

[exotic jetty]

私は本当に退屈している

[topaz oasis]

yay

[topaz oasis]

NANI

[exotic jetty]

U know what I said

[topaz oasis]

No I don't lmao

[exotic jetty]

To my knowledge it means "i am bored out of my fucking mind" or something like that idk

[topaz oasis]

if you bored play doom

[exotic jetty]

Good point I'm doing my first UV run of 2016

[topaz oasis]

oof, 2016...

can't say I like that game too much

[exotic jetty]

How come?

Wait lemme guess

No dash

???

[topaz oasis]

it's not that

the game is hella buggy, and very frustrating to play on nightmare/UN

[exotic jetty]

Oh yea that is true but I love the bugs or as I like to say "features"

[solar bridge]

Lol that's funny

Eternal is "bug Eternal"

[topaz oasis]

and dark ages is the bug ages

[exotic jetty]

There was a bug I saw where after I pick up gold the yellow light stayed there

And I once got launched into stratosphere

[topaz oasis]

LOL

me too, and I have it on video

[exotic jetty]

Show?

Vid

[topaz oasis]

it was an aggaddon hunter who slapped me into next thursday

[topaz oasis]

bet, let me make a gif

[exotic jetty]

Ah for me it was a stone imp that rolled into me at 999,999,999,999,999mph

[topaz oasis]

lmao that's silly

hold on

[uneven mortar]

Ngl the bugs in the doom games have never bothered me aside from this SSG issue

[exotic jetty]

Frfr

Best part 0f the games ngl

[uneven mortar]

Also I never play ultranightmare because I'm not good enough, so it's funny to see people specifically complain about the mode

Permadeath modes seem fundamentally unfun to me

[exotic jetty]

That's my 3rd fav diff

[uneven mortar]

When you play a permadeath mode I think you're just setting yourself up to hate the game unless you have a high patience for BS

[drowsy pulsar]

bro my fuckin game keeps crashing in the ripatorium. i give up. i think the game can't handle the max number of enemies, it's just too much

[topaz oasis]

Or you're just setting yourself up for a good challenge

ngl, I get bored if I dont play eternal/2016 on UN

I feel like I'm being given too much lenience

[uneven mortar]

I don't understand why one wouldn't just play nightmare if the bugs bother them

[topaz oasis]

[uneven mortar]

Just count your deaths

[topaz oasis]

sense of accomplishment

I don't get a cute message of congratulations from the devs telling me I'm a true slayer when I finish the game

[uneven mortar]

Fair enough

[topaz oasis]

now you understand the perspective of a UN player

()

@exotic jetty here you go fam https://imgur.com/a/juk4Dif

it goes without saying, that completely soft-locked that encounter, so I had to restart checkpoint

[exotic jetty]

Funny when it happened to me I was out of bounds😭

[graceful lion]

he had enough

[sand salmon]

What goes up must come down

[vague sinew]

is the live today?

[dreamy kiln]

I think tomorrow

[rotund lily]

My friend had the same problem lol

He was just fighting and then just flying

[harsh egret]

its in 2 hrs

[arctic pagoda]

When you realize pandemonium is just UN but with extra steps

[grim cloud]

lets hope they fixed it. I take it we are prob not getting a double stream today

4 hour streams were certianly fun, esp when hugo starting filling up the swear jar

[topaz oasis]

is just UN but easier*

[blazing void]

I'm at the Forsaken Plains right now in my current Pandemonium run

[arctic pagoda]

Well, you get a set amount of lives, each life lost resets the chapter, all lives lost resets the campaign

[topaz oasis]

gotcha

so its easier

can you find more extra lifes throughout the levels tho?

[blazing void]

Going back to the beginning of the level after losing a life is like something similar to the old Mario games

[grim cloud]

i preferred the extra lives mode from Eternal.

because i find myself, just quiting after the first death

esp if i die near the end of a level

[unreal terrace]

yeah it is pretty annoying

[harsh egret]

certainly most fun when the stream starts at 12 am in my timezone

[stray urchin]

Hugo stream happening today?

[uneven mortar]

who knows atp

two weeks of zero communication

[alpine whale]

someone should do the hardest difficulty of this game with only the combat shotty, trust

[uneven mortar]

when does stream start

[harsh egret]

in an hr and 5 mins

[uneven mortar]

okk thankx

[stray urchin]

No stream until next week 😔

[blazing void]

Dang it

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/tigger-tigger-winnie-the-pooh-tigger-sad-disappear-gif-25009198

[hexed dagger]

So still nothin, huh?

[warm ibex]

where was that mentioned

[solar spoke]

My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined 😢

[hexed dagger]

I’m just very disappointed we still have this bug several weeks later

[vague sinew]

in announcements

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/daeth-funi-periflight-dies-from-gif-22212023

[vague sinew]

yeah.

[warm ibex]

ah dang

[solid nacelle]

And here I was looking forward to this week's Thursday

[harsh egret]

dont worry, they are doing 3 levels next week

[grim cloud]

six hour stream next week?

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/bahaha-lol-hd-gif-minion-minion-laugh-gif-2154867417577880306

[solar spoke]

a six hour stream would go on into 5am here but I'll be damned if I miss it lol

[rotund lily]

Should I stream a pandemonium play through this arvo or no?

[random sand]

If you want

[exotic jetty]

Sure sounds cool

[rotund lily]

I might then

[frail bloom]

Wait

They're not streaming?

[green estuary]

#announcements message

[frail bloom]

Again???

W/ at least one cool giveaway huh

Tbh idc

[warm ibex]

at this point I gotta just get the news video out, some of this stuff will be a month old by next week's stream

crazy that it's been nearly a month since QC

[frail bloom]

What's crazier is the ssg hasen't been fixed and we haven't gotten anything since quakecon

By the time they're streaming next week I got school

So no 3 hr sit downs watching streams

What have y'all been talking abt(I'll scroll up anyway)

[wind pike]

I need that SSG fix 😩

[solid nacelle]

That's not true! They fixed the 1 frame jitter that was really making the game unplayable!!

[warm ibex]

thank you for ending Samir's rapant misinformation spree

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-down-you-adam-sandler-gif-13760997572821101242

[frail bloom]

"Rapant"

[uneven mortar]

called it

[frail bloom]

Lmao

I wouldn't be bothered as much if I didn't have school but now it's too late

[warm ibex]

me when I call my friend named two weeks of zero communication

[uneven mortar]

that's two streams missed in a row, what is going on??

[frail bloom]

Josh is in a different state I think

[uneven mortar]

and no word on SSG aside from a date that didnt happen

[frail bloom]

Smt to do with the stream not working

But still, nothing else

[warm ibex]

yeah I'd imagine last week's connection issues were due to josh being out of state, don't know what happened tonight

[supple oracle]

FFS man

[frail bloom]

RIP this chat

Unless they show something next stream but I'm not interested in "giveaways"

[uneven mortar]

genuinely who cares about giveaways fix the game

[wind pike]

lowkey, loved the quakecon update overall but I've been putting off playing until they fix some stuff

[frail bloom]

I've played enough dark ages as is, for me at least

92 hrs and I'm spent

I want to do smt new

[uneven mortar]

two weeks of no communication on a major gameplay issue is not acceptable for a game of this price

[wind pike]

Mainly SSG cuz it feels bad to ignore one of the game's flagship weapons each playthrough

[frail bloom]

And I don't even care abt using the ssg is the thing

But if there's a problem, it has to be fixed

In a reasonable time

[solid nacelle]

Bruh by next stream update 2 will have been out for almost a whole month

[random sand]

I'm just waiting for new shit atp. The dlc or a more replayable mode or something

[uneven mortar]

the second the "friday or monday" date slipped by there should have been immediate communication from the team

[frail bloom]

But nope we have no idea

[uneven mortar]

we don't know when it's getting fixed, and worse we don't know WHY it's taking so long

[frail bloom]

I'm waiting for the mythical NG+ and Ripatorium updates, but they're marketing team is allergic to marketing for some reason

[random sand]

Mythical NG+?

[frail bloom]

Mythical meaning I have no idea if it's going to come through or if it exists

Ng+ is essentially a master level campaign

[random sand]

I mean NG+ does kinda exist with level select

[frail bloom]

Not exactly

[warm ibex]

what are they even supposed to market?

[random sand]

I guess the dlc whenever that rolls around

[frail bloom]

"Hey we're fixing this, here's the date"
"Hey we're working on a NG+"
"Hey here's a dlc concept art"
"Hey this is what we're doing for ripatorium check it out"

[warm ibex]

that's not marketing

[random sand]

How is it not?

[frail bloom]

How

Aren't the streams and the info that comes from them marketing

[warm ibex]

on a technicality, perhaps

[frail bloom]

It's what gets ppl talking

[uneven mortar]

definitely imo

its very good marketing

[frail bloom]

Without them, you end up with dead chats

And ppl who feel frustrated with the lack of information

[warm ibex]

streams are marketing for sure, but announcing bug fixes outside of it isn't

that's just communication

[frail bloom]

And then it leads them to not caring, which leads into the chat becoming more dead

[frail bloom]

Well it doesn't add new enemies, add terrain hazards or change level progression

It's a mix of NG+ and master levels

And that turns into a master level campaign of sorts

[random sand]

Not every NG+ does that. In fact, very rarely do i see that from a NG+

[solid nacelle]

You're just replaying a level you already beat

[frail bloom]

Ye but I think they're mixing the two together

[random sand]

You think that because...?

[warm ibex]

which is what most ng+ modes are tbf

[frail bloom]

You have a master level campaign but everything is unlocked from the get go

[frail bloom]

Dev menu

[harsh egret]

Ng+ shouldnt be a simple recycle of the main game

[grim cloud]

what about grand master level campaign?

[frail bloom]

And the 2 month old info of them working on master levels

[harsh egret]

Idk why some games do that, why even play that

[grim cloud]

or super grand master level campaign?

[solid nacelle]

Right

[warm ibex]

that's what most of them seem to be, which is why I'm fairly confused as to why so many people wanted one for TDA before we found out it's more of a master level thing

[frail bloom]

I guess when they say that they want the better type of NG+

[harsh egret]

I want it because i realised it would be a master level thing

[frail bloom]

Which is what master levels falls into

Remixed levels

[harsh egret]

We found out about ng+ when it kinda made sense it would be a master level campaign

Things just add up

[frail bloom]

And y'know taking this long for what we thought two master levels is just insane

Makes more sense to be a master level campaign package

[warm ibex]

of course, yeah! but there's people that just want a normal standard ng+ and I have no idea why

[frail bloom]

And we just have to wait

[harsh egret]

Ye thats crazy to me

[frail bloom]

What there are ppl who don't want a master level campaign?

That's interesting

[harsh egret]

Not exactly what he meant

Just they wanted a normal shitty ng+

[warm ibex]

yeah that

[solid nacelle]

"Yeah guys I actually don't want the campaign to be remixed and made harder"

[harsh egret]

Not instead of master level campaign

[frail bloom]

That would be a great waste of resources

[harsh egret]

Imagine they add new upgrades and stuff to weapons or smth

Remixed upgrades

[frail bloom]

Nope

[warm ibex]

that would be sick

[harsh egret]

The duality of man

[frail bloom]

I don't really expect that

Would want it

For sure

[harsh egret]

Like change them up a lil, not necessarily NEW new ones

[frail bloom]

What does that even mean

[harsh egret]

Wdym lol

[frail bloom]

Change what up

Give an example

[warm ibex]

upgrades, brotato chip

[harsh egret]

The weapon upgrades for example

[frail bloom]

I mean

[harsh egret]

I dont expect stuff like new shield runes, thats for dlc

[frail bloom]

It's very broad like I don't even know what they would change

Do they even need to

[solid nacelle]

A new currency that grants a final final upgrade to your guns

[frail bloom]

Hmmmmmmmm

[harsh egret]

They dont "need to" lol

[warm ibex]

sentinel..... batteries.........

[harsh egret]

But it WOULD be sick

[frail bloom]

See this is good

The final upgrade stuff being earned through combat

I can see that

[warm ibex]

the press demo had a cycler upgrade that would continuously arc electricity to nearby demons as you shot an enemy that was being actively shredded by the shield

I'd like the see that come back

[frail bloom]

Uh well why was it cut

Too much?

[harsh egret]

I think horde doesnt work at id software

[frail bloom]

I mean his theories

[harsh egret]

My assumption tho

[frail bloom]

Like he played it so maybe he has an idea

Was it too powerful?

[warm ibex]

oh I have no idea why it was removed lol

[frail bloom]

Fair

[harsh egret]

Sounds like maybe it was too similar to the shredder upgrades?

[solid nacelle]

I also remember that super heavies were allowed to be locked down with shield throw but that's not a thing anymore too

[frail bloom]

Can't wait to talk abt NG+ the next week for the billionth time

[harsh egret]

Yeah new stream next week..

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[frail bloom]

Well I got school by then

[harsh egret]

Also "ssg fix any second now"

[frail bloom]

I don't think I'll be in the chat

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[grim cloud]

ng+ would be awesome. not sure if you can further upgrade the slayer in NG or just finish finsing whatever secrets/currecncy you missed on your normal run

[solid nacelle]

"Today's the day guys trust"

[frail bloom]

So that means they missed three dates huh

And missed two streams

Yeeeeeessshh

[graceful lion]

hl3 releasing before ssg fix trust

[frail bloom]

Is Hugo taking a break aswell or smt last time we had this draught he was on vacay

[harsh egret]

I will graduate, get a house, get married, have kids, and by then the ssg will not be fixed yet
But thats alright, maybe the ssg is the friends we made along the way

[frail bloom]

Having kids in this economy???

Good luck Hato

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

[frail bloom]

What do you have a wife

Did not knoe you had game

[harsh egret]

Yh happily married at 21

[frail bloom]

Well shame on me

[harsh egret]

Kappa

[graceful lion]

wow

[harsh egret]

(troll if someone actually believed that)

[frail bloom]

I have been played

[harsh egret]

Easy to fool u i guess

[frail bloom]

Ye

Like very

[warm ibex]

yeah I really liked that, but it definitely needed to be cut

I was shield spamming cyberdemons during the demo. trivializes them

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-cat-is-this-bait-cat-is-this-ragebait-gif-10902073105296387701

[unreal terrace]

Ssg fix when 🙏🙏🙏

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-dance-gif-4838757648246736018

[warm ibex]

tonight, 2:30am ET

trust the process

it'll only be available while Hato is in bed, they'll nerf it again when he wakes up

[harsh egret]

Waiting for the SSG HOTFIX at 3:69 AM 😱 😨 ‼️

[unreal terrace]

today I will be drinking the SSG FIX potion, FROM THE DARK WEB, at 3AM

[warm ibex]

can I have a sip

[harsh egret]

🤯

[unreal terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-the-dark-ages-launch-launch-the-true-melon-gif-15484408642892935923

[thin zinc]

no doom stream again this week with hugo?

[harsh egret]

no doom stream again this week with hugo.

[thin zinc]

why?

i ran in thinking i was late! imagine my sadness

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-who-knows-idgaf-i-dont-care-i-dont-know-gif-23016529

[hasty stone]

wtf

did they say why?

[harsh egret]

no.

but look at the bright side

they will do a giveaway next week!

[hasty stone]

🙁

[harsh egret]

(they wanna make us think theres gonna be a stream next week just like the ssg fix)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/491020118780805140/1410758049613746226/F-_45SMagAAlxTd.jpg?ex=68b22e51&is=68b0dcd1&hm=b232c5c82344d72b12592f11d974ebc77aea77ee9f210eff38ad94fa91626e81&

[graceful lion]

perhaps ill finally win something /j

promotion's probably only in the us lol

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-falling-building-fall-woodz-gif-24715383

Strange, bc I feel that way abt eternal. Throughout these past months they have raised the volume of the tracks in general and this past month they fixed the dynamic music module where it should play the heavy bits when it should. Meanwhile in Eternal I put music to 100% and sound affects to 60% and it's still kinda weird, we don't even talk abt tag. I'm not here to prove you wrong I'm just not sure why we have such different experiences but it's an interesting thing to notice.

No no not you I getchu but let's be happy for him he's happy working with other ppl

Man I hate it when I reply to someone but it doesn't work

[solid nacelle]

God TAG music mixing was so awful especially with maligog. I tried putting the sound effects below 60% and I still couldn't hear the music. The Dark lord is so bad about this too, I hate how it always lowers the music whenever he summons his wolves, loudest shit ever for no reason. Yes game I know he spawned his wolves I don't need you to hemorrhage my eardrums to convey this

[frail bloom]

The boss music was mixed horribly I heard no big moments or references or any of the main passages it was just so mediocre

Shame cuz the actual music is really good

[nova badger]

AWOOOOOO
-_-

[frail bloom]

@shadow flame Well no, the flail may be kinda aids now but the idea of gaining armor through a melee is a very good idea but it should give you more armor points. The gauntlets are for comboing and stacking attacks with it's shock layering. The dreadmace of course is your big hit one tap thing. The reason why they're different is bc of when and how they're used, sometimes some ppl use more ammo then others so they use the gaunlets or flail, some use the dreadmace for big guys so they don't waste the charge. Would you say that for most of eternal's runes. They're there to compliment your weapons not be a replacement

It's what I think abt the melee in this game to smt you said yesterday

[harsh egret]

the whole of immora has horrible mixing from what i remember, havent played it again in a little bit tho but i remember the heavy fighting tracks were mixed terribly

[hearty edge]

HAHAHAH I HADNT SEEN THE CLASSIC DOOM ZOMBIE FACE

SO GOOFY

[frail bloom]

Wut

[hearty edge]

like the hud face in harbor of souls

[harsh egret]

they need to make his face angry when he spams a weapon like in the classic games

[frail bloom]

Ohhh

[hearty edge]

true

[harsh egret]

idk how they didnt do that

[frail bloom]

Ye idk I can hear dark ages music just fine in the game

Pretty well heard

[harsh egret]

the music for me is perfectly fine and i have it only 10% louder than the sfx

[frail bloom]

Plus I just listened to SLADE3's unholy siege remix and it has my favorite doom drop

At 5:08

Like holy crap

[frail bloom]

Ye much better compared to what someone would put for eternal and especially tag

2016 was pretty well mixed obv it's prob the best mixed

[hearty edge]

mine's only 5% louder and it soulds fire

[brittle flame]

We need a cutscene replayed instead of looking for what level has what cutscene

[frail bloom]

https://youtu.be/VzN3heXgt7Q?feature=shared

[harsh egret]

huh

[hearty edge]

i feel the one that really put the soundtrack to the foreground was 2016 and the 1st marauder fight on eternal

[frail bloom]

@delicate grotto I found it, it's at 5:08, the unholy siege drop that I love

[vague idol]

it's weird to me that some parts here aren't included in the ost

[frail bloom]

They just weren't given enough time alloted for the ost

[vague idol]

oh... isn't that what happened with mick gordon?

[frail bloom]

No not that

[indigo scaffold]

How does one get the shield saw profile ring?

[frail bloom]

Lemme have @mystic barn he can explain it

[hearty edge]

i think it's the inverse, the tracks are complete but they don't fully appear in the game

[frail bloom]

Idk just go on youtube

[hearty edge]

especially the komodo one

[harsh egret]

cant anymore

[hearty edge]

was a thing like ages ago that gave u it if you watched the tda trailer

[indigo scaffold]

Oh, that sucks

[frail bloom]

No they do, you mean the official ost right

[hearty edge]

yea that

[indigo scaffold]

Would’ve gotten it, but I didn’t know about it

[vague idol]

this one wasn't included at all and that's a shame

[hearty edge]

same

[vague idol]

in the OST i mean

[frail bloom]

I think the drop at unholy siege in the mix I shared is my favorite

Genuinely a bop

[hearty edge]

whereas with doom eternal the gamerips are there and appear entirely but the actual official ost wasn't completed to distribute and such

[indigo scaffold]

Better question: is it permanent, or only 2 months like most of the profile rings?

[frail bloom]

No I don't think it's permanent but I have no idea why Hato still has it

Black magic I tell ya

[harsh egret]

it dissapeared for me after 2 months like everyone else but then i checked again like a few weeks ago and it was there

idk when it got there again

maybe its cuz i kept the subscription? (been subbed for like 3 years now)

[frail bloom]

That's what a wizard would say

Pagan filth

Heretic

[mystic barn]

What happened with the OST is that FM were contracted to condense a 7 hour in-game score to only 2hrs 15 mins. That’s why the Komodo riffs - among many others - are missing

[frail bloom]

@vague idol there

[vague idol]

Waittt

Missing in the OST on YouTube or in-game?

[frail bloom]

In the official ost that's branded as official

If that makes sense

[vague idol]

How much is in the game itself?

[frail bloom]

All the missing riffs you think of are in game but not in the distributed ost

But they appear in game a lot obv

[harsh egret]

thats always gonna happen really

[frail bloom]

Which is a shame bc they skip out on some bops or nice little unique moments

The little moments are also very important

[harsh egret]

theres plenty more of stuff i heard in game that i didnt hear in the ost but wish they were and thats ok cuz thats what happens when u condense it into a 2-3 hr ost

[frail bloom]

But hey they composed them so techincally we win

[hearty edge]

they should release the whole ahh ost

[vague idol]

At least everything that was supposed to make it into the game made it

[harsh egret]

i always love talking about osts cuz "ost" means cheese in my language so its kinda funny haha lol lmao kek

[frail bloom]

I was thinking of some remixed ost where they include all the cool parts for free, but it's a dream

But for now you have youtube mixes and flacs whenever someone gives them

And the official ost if you're happy with it

[quasi shadow]

Hi guys quick question. I recently just bought a 5070TI and tested out a bunch of games on it today. Doom eternal and 2016 ran great but for some reason Dark Ages is giving me a lot of frame time spikes causing a lot of micro stutters on top of the game not performing well even with frame generation on. Has anyone here ran into a similar issue?

[hearty edge]

how much vram

[frail bloom]

Ye that shouldn't be happening

[quasi shadow]

5070TI with 16gb of VRAM. I turned on the benchmarks and it looks like it’s my cpu (intel i5 136k) and even in the menus I’m getting frame drops.

Every other game is running fine too so idk

[hearty edge]

yea the cpu might explain it a bit

but still with that monster i would think it should run great

[quasi shadow]

I wasn’t getting these before I upgraded my graphics card from a 4070super so it’s very strange

[harsh egret]

i got a 5070ti and it runs perfect

what cpu u got

[quasi shadow]

i5 136k

[harsh egret]

oh wait i didnt read

[harsh egret]

the cpu doesnt explain anything cuz i have a 12600kf and im running the game perfectly fine

[harsh egret]

i assume u mean 13600k

[quasi shadow]

Yes

[harsh egret]

i assume u updated ur drivers and all

[hearty edge]

yea idfk

[quasi shadow]

All drivers are up to date on my end yes

[harsh egret]

weird

[hearty edge]

i would say it's maybe storage space but i have like 10gb free and the game runs at 60fps

[quasi shadow]

I wish I could show an image because these frame times are confusing me

[harsh egret]

i am upgrading to a 14600k tho cuz it went on discount AND i get bf6 for free with that

[hearty edge]

well u can take a screenshot and link it

[harsh egret]

^

[hearty edge]

damn i thought a ceiling decoration was a cacodemon right in front of me and i panicked

[midnight kayak]

ha

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/scared-excuse-me-awkward-gross-oops-gif-4871612

[midnight kayak]

just do the caco finisher were you pull out its eye

[frail bloom]

No one is scared of eternal's caco

Now dark ages caco...

https://tenor.com/view/goku-prowler-stare-meme-angry-gif-14312537171363175004

[midnight kayak]

oh no

its an actual threat

[frail bloom]

Not a very fun one at that

[midnight kayak]

damn

[solid nacelle]

Yeah I wish they'd do away with that impenetrable energy barrier he puts up when he does that one attack. It's bad enough that he fires enormous walls as projectiles, but the fact that he himself is shielded while doing so is just gratuitous. I don't like having to "wait until he's done" before I'm allowed to deal damage. Is that not ridiculous?

[hearty edge]

yea

idk what thing made seks with the cacodemon to make the hybrid but dat shi op

[frail bloom]

This chat is so fried

[frank turtle]

they hit like a truck bro fr

Man I'm starting to wonder what's taking this fix so long, maybe they're saving it all for a single patch update?

[frail bloom]

I'm starting to think they're bundling it with the ssg buff

Ofc I'm theorizing cuz they don't bother to share crap

[frank turtle]

yep

it seems like it's been fixed according to hugo

[frail bloom]

When

Where

[frank turtle]

he was in that one streamers chat saying the fix was gonna come out last Friday or monday

[frail bloom]

Oh ye that

[frank turtle]

also no stream tonight again?? bro ID is tweaking

[frail bloom]

Well where did that go

[frank turtle]

poof

https://tenor.com/view/hugo-martin-doom-doom-eternal-doom-2016-giga-chad-gif-8667813971741982445

[frail bloom]

Weird cuz they were very communicative until these past 2 weeks

Just complete silence

[frank turtle]

they might be cooking then

[frail bloom]

Which I wouldn't have a problem with if they could atleast address the problems

[frank turtle]

yeah it's a little weird

[crude lintel]

If you're fast you can just throw the shield at him before he puts it up.

[frail bloom]

He's bugged tho

Sometimes he shoots out a very fast projectile with no wind up

Does he still have those invincibility frames before dumb purple attack

[crude lintel]

They fixed that unless they broke it again.

I've had no issues since the fix.

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-im-out-im-gone-disappear-gif-14773411

[arctic pagoda]

The bonk ages

[sand cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-the-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages-doom-dark-ages-doomguy-gif-366884463840825135

[arctic pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-eternal-glory-kill-doom-glory-kill-doom-eternal-zombie-gif-18694440

[spark elm]

I’ve got like 3 more weapon challenges, accelerator, rocket launcher and grenade launcher

[real crater]

probably the whiplash

[spark elm]

What track played for combat on ancestral forge?

Tbh I don’t think it’s on the soundtrack

stinks that it isn’t

or I guess it could be pursuit of demons?

[solemn mauve]

SSG fix is secretly gta 6 in disguise, it will release next year (or who knows if it gets delayed again)

[crude lintel]

Pursuit of Demons is used for both Abyssal Forest and Ancestral Forge.

[spark elm]

I see.

[upbeat junco]

i want to become hugo martin when i grow up

[uneven mortar]

I did too until the SSG broke

[solemn mauve]

With all of the waiting that's going on, ID can release at least one master level to compensate

Hugo, will you do it?

[hard thistle]

SSG fix here?

Why even revert the tunable if the fix wouldn't arrive soon? So they'd rather leave us with something broken/bad than something fun/OP?? Where is the logic in that. TDA is a singleplayer game. That decision made no sense whatsoever

[misty python]

What happened with SSG? I don’t use it too much, but when I do it seems fine

[hard thistle]

can't block right after shooting

[glad hinge]

It's worse than that. If you fire the SSG and tap the block button during the reload animation, the game will force you into a block once the reload animation ends

there seem to be a lot of things that lock your controls like that now

[wintry nexus]

They’re REALLYYY taking their time with the fix huh

I don’t mind I guess

It’s Not that bad for me

[covert goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-the-dark-ages-doomguy-doom-slayer-doom-dark-ages-gif-65178980541247350

One of my favorite moments in the dark ages

[hearty marten]

Any potential on the game being ported to switch 2?

[solid nacelle]

Indiana jones is gonna be on there so I think there's a solid chance

[hearty marten]

Yea so its confirmed they have devkits

[normal oriole]

can I somehow get infinite BFC ammo? or get any weapon through console commands?

[covert goblet]

Yeah.
It's called "Beserk."

[solid nacelle]

Berserk doesn't grant infinite bfc anymore

[golden wyvern]

Who wanna vote adding battlemode

[compact acorn]

yea.... found out the hard way myself, lost an UN run in at freakin chapter 20 last week because of this 🙂

[maiden onyx]

rip beating the final boss in 30 seconds 😔

[topaz oasis]

thinking about using BFC was your first mistake

lol jk

[compact acorn]

every use of the bfc is a mistake wdym, just play the game lol 🙂

[compact acorn]

the ravager still melts the guy in 30s tho

[vivid light]

When will they fix the ssg

[topaz oasis]

@uneven mortar my first death on dark ages ultra-nightmare https://imgur.com/a/AbNJHPn

and it was indeed bullshit

[compact acorn]

is there smth broken with the ssg now? maybe i'm just unaware.. the thing that's really bugging with me is that delay the shield throw has before you can throw it again while shooting the shredder..omg that sucks

[vivid light]

the shield won't let you block until the reload is completely finished

before you could interrupt it halfway

it's a bug

[topaz oasis]

after testing it yesterday, it's like a small delay that doesnt let you block at the very beginning of the reload animation

but you go back to being able to block or parry halfway through the thing

[wheat sigil]

i mean not really though, there was a hell knight landing behind you

[wind pike]

It’s a pretty big delay relative to the demands of the game and other weapons

[topaz oasis]

yeah, I admit that was kinda deserved, the thing is: I couldn't see it was so packed up there, I thought it was only a pinky rider and a stalker, but suddenly a heck knight, another stalker and like 3 soldiers popped up behind the pinky and I panicked

[wheat sigil]

there is quite a lot of merit to the bs claim though, since the ssg bug made you take alotta damage

[topaz oasis]

could have been easily avoided by playing it from afar with impaler and plasma rifle but something inside me wanted to ssg that pinky so bad

[wheat sigil]

most deaths can be avoided by playing like that...

[topaz oasis]

also, vagary bombarding me from behind that I completely disregarded

I dunno, my judgement had a massive failure in that part

but still, that was so sudden

[crisp trench]

To be honest I didn’t really like tda I feel like it’s not really doom

[topaz oasis]

is it because it has parries?

[crisp trench]

Thats kinda part of it yeah

[topaz oasis]

[crisp trench]

I feel like the “destructive” vibe from it is less

[topaz oasis]

I dunno, I like the parries

[crisp trench]

I mean.. it is really cool

😭

[grand ledge]

funny enough I feel the exact opposite. I feel it is more of a doom game, because of the destruction / violence portrayed. also the parry system adds a layer of depth that doom hasn't ever tried (except for the dash spam in eternal)

while tearing a demon in half with your hands is fun, doing the same with the shield is just as good.

[wheat sigil]

parrying isn't particularly deep

it's either to pre-emptively equip a certain weapon to draw benefits from the parry (which is made unnecessarily hard in alotta situations) or to just practice to get the timing down on a lower slider for no real reason

[topaz oasis]

I wish we still had the dash on top of the parry in this game

now that would make a game with actual depth

[wheat sigil]

with the more reactive playstyle against projectiles instead of eternal's proactive style, dashing would be insanely busted

[arctic pagoda]

Hi

[topaz oasis]

Yo

[frank turtle]

I just got back from being out of town

and it still not fixed isn't it 💔

[solemn mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-no-crying-gif-14005453

[solar cairn]

I think that for such a long wait you need to give something else, although 1 master level)))

[vivid light]

It's a bit deeper than you think. If you parry but do it too late you'll parry the projectile but it will also do some damage to you

[graceful lion]

atp ima meet her (4-5 years until then) before the ssg fix 🙏

[vivid light]

It's like they made it in mind that people would want bigger and smaller windows than the standard setting...

[frank turtle]

You've been wanting it since it became broken man I feel u

[graceful lion]

well, u can make ur own master levels

[uneven mortar]

Im going freaking insame

[graceful lion]

arent we all

[uneven mortar]

Oh my god, if they're not cooking something cool as a surprise im actually going to be mad

Two weeks for a bug fix they already proved they could fix is beyond unprofessional

[wheat sigil]

i am well aware of this, and it doesn't add any depth
if you hit parry the frame it hits your hitbox you'll still take some damage yea, and even when this is somewhat justifiable, it just feels terrible

[warm ibex]

*two weeks for a large bug fix patch

not that it makes the wait any better

[uneven mortar]

I'd agree with this if they didn't already fix and re-break the SSG

They should have just kept it as is

[frank turtle]

I just want peak

[warm ibex]

peak comes with patience, I suppose

[frank turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/hugo-martin-doom-eternal-dark-ages-happy-yay-gif-13218051490774665565

[warm ibex]

lmao

[warm ibex]

I guess tbf they fixed it more than they wanted to

[blazing void]

Where is this clip from again?

Was it the one where he fought Davoth

[warm ibex]

which they really should've just left it like it was. super busted is better than broken

[wheat sigil]

doesn't make any sense that they'd be waiting to fix the ssg in some big patch, since they already "fixed" it once without anything else

[frank turtle]

I'm not sure

[mental grotto]

Guys we’re excited to announce that we are lumping this ssg patch into update 2! Expected release in 3 months!

[misty python]

Ohhh, ok

[graceful lion]

https://youtu.be/G7WYIdDXBy4?si=YDJCS06H57Bsw3o-&t=312 found it

@blazing void

[blazing void]

Yeah, I thought that as one

As I was just watching that and I still have the video in the tab open on my phone

[warm ibex]

they're reverting it to the previous version, not just fixing the shield delay

[green estuary]

Well reverting the update 2 nerfs is child’s play
It’s literally just 2 decl files that have to be changed

[warm ibex]

I think that's kinda funny

I hear that shit so often, especially in my comments. "Doing this is so easy my grandmother could do it, why isn't this a thing?"

was at its height before the Berserker bug was fixed, back when they were very clearly struggling to figure it out lol

[graceful lion]

let the redditors take care of it

they know better than the devs

devs are lazy lazy people frfr

devs made the engine but cant fix a tiny thing smh

(sarcasm btw)

[warm ibex]

I can't blame anyone for being impatient for any major bug fix

[graceful lion]

true

[surreal mango]

@midnight cedar

[wintry nexus]

Ofc a guy who killed the creator of the universe would have busted weapons

[warm ibex]

but there seems to be a lot of restrictions and approvals when it comes to pushing out non-tunable patches (at least that's what I've gathered from the dev streams). If it really was that easy and simple then the patch would be out right now

[wintry nexus]

Idk why ppl complain

it’s the doom SLAYER dammit

[thorny yarrow]

Oh I see I arrived in the middle of an armchair developer discussion. XD

Those guys know everything right?

Anyway, I just realized that the infinite ammo on the BFC while in berserk mode seems to have been changed to no longer be the case. Which is sad, but understandable. XD

[burnt finch]

There is also another bug which is I press R3 to use melee but melee doesnt work because of the bug
Switching weapon fixes this problem it happens rarely but still a bug that need to be fixed

[fervent maple]

How do people here feel about melee on their sticks (R3, RS, etc.)? I used it for years in other games, but I can't stand it in Doom for some reason. I feel like I'm gonna break them lmao

I changed it to A since I have jump on my left shoulder button

[thorny yarrow]

I don't think I'd ever put that on a stick click personally.

[fervent maple]

It's like that by default in all three games, I think it's been a standard since COD?

I could be wrong about when exactly it started, but I've only ever seen it on RS or B in an FPS game.

I recall it being right shoulder in some Halo games

[thorny yarrow]

I've slowly become more accustomed to not having the slow mo on, and again, I do like the stylization of the slow mo, but holy shit, no slow mo is fucking awesome.

[fervent maple]

It's cool as hell, but I find the game a bit too difficult without it

I can't keep up without it lol

[thorny yarrow]

I think that's really the main function of the slowmo from a gameplay perspective yeah.

I do want to experiment with the Slow mo slider to see what the best middle ground might be.

[drowsy aurora]

I just don't think they ever should have touched Super Shotty

[uneven mortar]

I like 60% slow mo

[topaz oasis]

time to continue with the UN grind

mission 7 here I go

[solemn mauve]

Good luck again

[hearty edge]

doom

[broken thunder]

im gon be honest, militarily Siege 1 and 2 kinda irritate me. Novik sends infantry out when a titian pulls up and a large reason demons get in is cuz of that 1 armed atlan trying to fight a armored titian.

thanks for comin to my ted talk

[uneven mortar]

I think when they sent the atlan out it had both arms? The titan probably ripped it off

[broken thunder]

your absolutely right, my issue for that is that pilot had no right or insight to fight a shield armored titain

Call in air support, call in artillery

anything

( but at the end of the day its for plot convenience ) but still!

[uneven mortar]

I think atlans are specifically the purpose-built anti-titan weapons though?

I guess they could have used something else

[broken thunder]

they coulda used the big ships

[topaz oasis]

man I hate arachnatrons in this game, wtf

they wont stop spamming those stupid mines

and why does that garbage do so much damage

[drowsy aurora]

I find the auto cannon they have to be way worse

[topaz oasis]

one hit from the mines at 140 HP leaves you at 5 HP

like, seriously?

[wheat sigil]

what damage scale

[topaz oasis]

UN scaling

[wheat sigil]

250%?

[topaz oasis]

yeh

[harsh egret]

not that hard to counter arachnotrons imo

[topaz oasis]

it's not that they are hard, they are just super random and spammy some times

and wont stop putting mines everywhere around you

[harsh egret]

yeah i meant the mines specifically

usually u can just shield bash to them past the mines

[topaz oasis]

and correct me if I'm wrong but you cant even destroy the mines? like you shoot them and they just continue to linger in there for like half an hour

[topaz oasis]

depending on what other enemies are around, shield bashing wouldn't be that great of an idea sometimes

[harsh egret]

idk, i just cant remember last time i had trouble with those mines

but iirc u cant shoot them, no

[green estuary]

they're proximity based, so they explode when you get close to them
but if you inch closer to them then they will explode without damaging you

[topaz oasis]

it doesnt really help that the UI indicator completely blends with the environment so you can't tell where the fricking things are most of the time anyway

[hearty edge]

WHERES THE LAST FKING DOG DID I MISS IT

[hearty edge]

a charged shield bash leaves them staggered

[hearty edge]

ALSO WDYM THERE'S ANOTHER COLLECTIBLE

I hope it's on that fatso's ship

[tidal crow]

you know, i really liked the marauder combat in eternal. i liked how he could put up his shield and had parry-able attacks. but in tda, now that we finally have a shield and can parry stuff, they remove him. now i haven’t played through the entirety of tda but im halfway there and no marauder combat

also is it just me or did they nerf the combat shotty and buff the super shotgun, the combat shotgun was absolutely godly in eternal because you could basically replace every weapon with it but now in tda it kinda sucks

[hearty edge]

nah the combat shotgun is still good

the super shotgun is actually bugged and nerfed now so i dont use it bur it's still more powerful yea

[drowsy aurora]

Super Shotty is garbage rn unfortunately

[hearty edge]

and ye there's no marauder bc the marauders are night sentinels

[frail bloom]

He's not there bc it's too early in the timeline

[hearty edge]

but i feel the aggadon makes his work

[sudden stump]

whole game is full of marauder combat, that's what the leader demons are

Kill the weaklings and then take on the master, that was the point of the marauder in eternal

[hearty edge]

in the fact that you're to far away he puts up a shield and throws stuff and you're too close u might mess up and die

[hearty edge]

i felt it more like take on the master and then the other guys

[wheat sigil]

eh not really

[sudden stump]

Well he was always designed to be killed last, they even double down on it by intentionally not fixing how other demons can put his shield up

High level players of course kill him first

[hearty edge]

like on the 1st encounter of taras nabad

[tidal crow]

oh yeah i forgot its a prequel and not just another game

the dlc was pretty trash for eternal but the ending was 👌

[frail bloom]

Uh huh

[frail bloom]

I liked tag 1 and 2 but I can understand how they fell short in some aspects

(Liked tag 1 more)

[hearty edge]

i like tag 1

i dont like tag 2 too much

[wheat sigil]

lumping tag1 and 2 together should be a crime

[frail bloom]

Oh well

Boombox, you're arrested

Hands in the air

[wheat sigil]

doing god's work

[tidal crow]

honestly i’m gonna be honest i didn’t like either part of the dlc except for the end mission

[hearty edge]

i hope u mean the ending cutscene bc the ending mission is my least favorite across them

[hearty edge]

HOW DID I MISS IT IT WAS RiGHT THERE

[tidal crow]

i mean the davoth fight and the ending cutscene

[wheat sigil]

that's a fucking wild take

not even liking tag1 but liking the dark lord

[tidal crow]

i like the davoth fight because it was sort of like a preview of tda

also yeah i have the hottest takes

[hearty edge]

liking davoth is wild

[tidal crow]

because i like the marauder combat and davoth is just better marauder combat

[wheat sigil]

how is he a better marauder😭

he's stupendously rng base

[tidal crow]

anyways i had fun with him it was as a fire fight

i might replay tag 1 to see

if i change my takes

[frail bloom]

There's no explaining

Boombox is on a higher plane of thinking

Simply why you can't arrest him

He'll break out with his mind melting skills

[tidal crow]

i’m just that smart

my dnd character is literally a 4d god

[frail bloom]

Exactly

[tidal crow]

combat is peak trust and i wrote like 5 pages of backstory just for him not including the realm he’s from

[frail bloom]

It's just weird, I hope they offer a good explanation so I can understand what happened

[solar cairn]

But there is no temptation to enter the game and we are calmly waiting for patch 3

[harsh egret]

speak for urself bud

[frail bloom]

Well ye I'm all doomed out until they add some new content but that's completely normal

I guess school will fill my time in the meantime

[merry sapphire]

did they fix a super shotgun yet

been almost a month since the update came out and it still feels buggy as hell man

[frail bloom]

NOOPE

GET HUGOED MARTINED

[merry sapphire]

yeah just read the chat above what is happening man

[frail bloom]

What's happening is a lack of info and a draught of info basically

It's nothing compared to between the opening trailer and the dev direct

[merry sapphire]

isnt idsoftware a triple A studio with like a giant crew, they already fixed the bug why wouldnt they just roll it out

[frail bloom]

That was genuinely awful

[merry sapphire]

?

[frail bloom]

@warm ibex I ain't even gonna bother you go ahead pls

[frail bloom]

Remember the several month wait where we had next to no info besides the opening trailer for dark ages

From literally June to January

Minus the little quakecon thing that barely anyone saw

[fervent maple]

On that note, is anyone who saw the game at QC 2024 here? How different was it from the Xbox Dev Direct in January?

[tidal crow]

i have a theory

2016 is eternally gone

doom eternal

doom eternal had the dark lord

then we got the dark ages

so whatever the last word said in doom tda is the theme for the next game trust

don’t say it though i haven’t finished the game

[nova badger]

my interest is piqued. Tell me about this 4d god

[tidal crow]

later

all will be revealed in time

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-team-hahaha-gif-18072160

this take hurts my soul

[tidal crow]

trust

unless i’m misremembering something

the davoth fight was pretty much just a cyber demon

a tda cyber demon to be exact

[green estuary]

wtf are you talking about 😭

the two are nothing alike

[short mountain]

nah

its more marauder

if anything

[tidal crow]

yeah it was marauder combat which is what i liked

but it was similar to the cyber demon from tda

parryable attack

gun

annoyingly resilient and has too much health

[green estuary]

davoth has a parryable attack?

[tidal crow]

kinda

he flashes green and then you shoot him

which is as close as you get to doom tda parrying in doom eternal

[solid nacelle]

Eternal really was the blueprint

[warm ibex]

From what's been said during recent dev streams, they have to go through QA testing and approval processes both internally and through Sony/Microsoft. Back when Eternal was still in active post-launch dev I believe it was stated that they try to bundle as much as possible into each update, so I'd imagine the same applies here

@frail bloom is that what you were asking me to say

[frail bloom]

Ye perfect thanks

[merry sapphire]

some things take priority though, the super shotgun bug is a game breaking bug that instantly negatively affects the game

especially when the fix itself is so simple

[merry sapphire]

besides, what QA testing 😭 when the update came out all sorts of stuff was broken

also holy shit horde mode

[warm ibex]

This armchair dev stuff is getting a little too silly for my taste lol

[merry sapphire]

damn it was that long 😭 ?

[warm ibex]

holy shit goatvero

[frail bloom]

Yup it was agony

[warm ibex]

I wish that wasn't an industry standard practice these days

back in my day, they used to announce games like three years before launch and throw info out at random

[frail bloom]

Yup, so many horde mode gaming posts...

Oh wait

Mind blown

Nah I'm kidding

But ye they were dead silent

[hearty edge]

how tf did i die twice on kreed on my first playtrough shi ez af

[green estuary]

he's one boss fight I don't really mind being easy
it would honestly be weirder if a bureaucrat like him was actually a challenge for the slayer

[hearty edge]

time for cthulu and asscracked

HE WAS LITEARLLY DEAD MAN

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/832527939153297448/1411187061045723327/20E54F1.JPG?ex=68b3bddd&is=68b26c5d&hm=602e84ba22a30afb1a681296be11ad0b3be87d10cb06458194bd7775a42ec4f9&=&format=webp&width=1202&height=676

HAHAHAH WHEN YOU DECAPITATE HIM IT MAKES A POP SOUND

BRO I WAS TRYING TO DODGE AHZRAK

[hearty edge]

alr i got better at parrying ahzrak

reckoning is kinda ez so yay

holy sht reckoning is not kinda ez

[alpine whale]

ahzrak was a kinda disappointing fight even on harder modes

hes a good character just not a difficult fight

[hearty edge]

ahzrak and the witch yea but enhanced ahzrak beat my ass the first time

[green estuary]

enhanced ahzrak on minimum parry window still destroys me until I get re-adjusted to him

[hearty edge]

but ig playing the game for 60 hours makes you better

[alpine whale]

tho he killed my dragon and i locked in and he was dead

[hearty edge]

rn i died more to the freaking old one than asscrack and idk if i'm proud but i like that

[silent surge]

they buffed the kreed fight in update 2

[silent surge]

also buffed. ahzrak too

i got jacked up my first (and so far only, until next play session) fighting old one in update 2. i wasn’t relying on siege breakers enough. and i went in low hp

[verbal void]

Literally even on U.N that boss was ez for me

Idk if its just me or smth

[green estuary]

cool

[verbal void]

Only one that gave me trouble on U.N was the old one

[hearty edge]

that makes sense

although i didnt really feel ahzrak

but that's probably just because i'm better at parrying

and the impaler being busted

[alpine whale]

its a shame we didnt get a proper fight with Cthulhu (the old one), outside of the atlan, but this is like on the best new dooms (behind 2016, but slightly ahead eternal in my opinion)

[hearty edge]

nah it's better than both imo

and my favorite in general

but i agree 2016 is irreplacable

[hearty edge]

and also a fight with cthulhu would probably be impossible as it's just a titan but bigger and stronger

and the slayer cannot fight titans on his own unless he has an atlan or a crucible

and we dont have a crucible

well he can fight them but not kill them you get what i mean

[alpine whale]

the old one is not a daemon i.e. It can die, but yeah the slayer is too "weak" at that point

[dark thunder]

need that dlc

AND THE SUPER SHOTGUN SHIELD FIX

[deft chasm]

I really don't think the Slayer needs them to kill them off. These are just tools to make gameplay more versatile and fun

But lore wise, the Doomslayer just needs his barehands

[vivid flicker]

Doomboy

[pine sky]

Isn't the crucible needed to kill off titans though

Like yea he can beat them with his barehands but without the crucible, wouldn't they just get back up or something

[alpine pilot]

where doom :houston:

[elfin pendant]

Damn bugged trophies :/

lore nerd and melee expert refuse to pop even after 3 fresh installs and loading multiple levels.

Anyone else had issues with those few?

Beserker popped prematurely for me

[meager vortex]

100% skill issue

[verbal void]

What about the minigun

[warm ibex]

@hard thistle Is there an answer for this? They make a big deal about not being able to permanently kill Titans without a crucible-type weapon in Eternal, yet in TDA you kill them by the dozen with the Atlan

[hard thistle]

Yeah, so Eternal is just kind of wrong about some of this. You can chalk it up to Samuel Hayden being unreliable and some specific lore notes being recontextualized.

Keeping in mind TDA and the fact that Titans get killed by Sentinels and the Slayer without Crucibles, we can draw some ideas. One is that the Crucible is a fast and easy way to dispatch a Titan without needing Atlans, and it's possible the Sentinels had never used an Atlan to fight a Titan until after the Slayer killed the Dreadnought.

Another idea is that some Titans are normal and some Titans are Big Fucking Deals. And that the Big Fucking Deal Titans, such as the Icon of Sin and the Dreadnought, are so powerful and persistent that they need a special energy conduit to put them down permanently, such as the Crucible.

I am personally of the opinion the last thing makes the most sense. You don't need a Crucible to kill a Titan. But you do need one to kill the Icon of Sin, and since that's the only Titan you fight in Eternal they don't care to differentiate the two.

[maiden onyx]

would it be wrong to say that the crucible stops hell from reanimating him again?

[hard thistle]

Not wrong or right. Nothing really says Hell reanimates Titans or anything. In TDA, Ahzrak resurrects dead Titans using Wraith powers, and this is framed as significant, i.e. out of the ordinary.

I do not think it's a thing of the Icon respawning. We literally strip the fucking thing of its bones in Eternal and it keeps kicking. I think, had the Slayer not used the Crucible after it fell, it would've gotten back up an hour later and wrecked more shit.

I am not of the opinion that anything "respawns" in Hell, so much as Hell being so vast that anything you fight, there are probably a million more of them down there.

[maiden onyx]

that makes sense

[hard thistle]

IMO, at some point they meant for Crucibles to be a necessity to kill any Titan, then they realized that wasn't feasible when they wanted to have more Titans in the story.

[warm ibex]

I like that explanation, best way to make sense of it

[hard thistle]

So once they got past that they just kinda moved past it and players can surmise the Crucible thing is only relevant to Eternal's events because of the Icon.

[warm ibex]

I do wish the writing and lore was a little tighter

[maiden onyx]

I look at the lore as more of a documentation of events from people within the world. they can be wrong / exaggerated / rewritten by the victors as we do ourselves in human history

but that's just a headcanon lol

[hard thistle]

I do as well, but I can overlook some of it because I know their idea of the universe has changed over time. I'm a total lore nerd, but I also think games should avoid writing themselves into a corner with lore shit, and that having a good narrative in a game is a bit more important than consistent lore.

I liked fighting Titans in TDA, and I would hate for Hugo to have decided we couldn't fight them because of the Crucible thing.

Sometimes I wish they'd be willing to kinda just... Go back and revise a couple Codex entries.

It'd be nice to see in the Sentinel history book "Oh man he used the Crucible to kill the Dreadnought. Thank God the other Titans didn't work that way lmao"

[mental grotto]

3,567 Doom 2 Archviles would like to know your location:

[maiden onyx]

anyone know what the bit of track that plays when doomguy rises from the blood in his sarcophagus is from?

[fleet geode]

Is anyone else unable to log into Bethesda net to get the quake con skin in game … lol

I literally had been signed in since launch and now I just can’t sign in
“Bethesda.net has reported an error. Please try again” works now

[frail bloom]

You can see this in eternal too

Spears in dead titans

[solar cairn]

Fix done?

[pastel egret]

my first time playing it im half trough the game and its INCREDIBLE just HOW??

this is just mindblowing

its a goddam hell yea simulator

worth every penny

i dont know if u guys ever played like those old games in wich the trailer on youtube is mindblowing and the gameplay was literaly 2d pixelated and like a board game

this is pretty much the trailer but you can actualy move around and play

[frail bloom]

Oh my positivity

[silent surge]

the other idea people say is, the titans can resurrect without being crucible’d
which you touched on

[silent surge]

ohhh you’re halfway in
the best parts are the end

so… have fun! 😛
go in blind. do not spoil yourself

[hard thistle]

Yeah, that's a thought as well. Ultimately there is room for many interpretations here, since the series hasn't really addressed this plot hole.

[silent surge]

granted it’s hard to resurrect a titan blasted apart by a gun - or maybe not, with that ol archvile magic

[sudden stump]

Another weekend with no ssg fix

[barren shell]

[sudden stump]

Like man I understand that they probably got other things to do, but there are newbies playing the game that have no idea why their parries don't work

[hearty edge]

yea i was abt to say but i forgor

[solemn mauve]

And for this reason I hope ID releases at least one master level to compensate for all the waiting. (but I guess not smh)

[hearty edge]

I dig the second option more as there's no way the icon and normal titans are on the same level

[harsh egret]

theres also newbies that dont even think about it as hard as yall unless they are told about it

[harsh egret]

id rather wait another 2-3 months for a campaign dlc than get one master level rn

[hearty edge]

BRO WHY DO I ALWAYS FORGET ABOUT THE BFC

I WOULD PROBABLY NEVER DIE IF I USED IT

[sudden stump]

Yeah that's the worst part, they think that's supposed to be the intended experience

[graceful lion]

it seems theres things other than the crucible exist as a conduit, could just be needing something that can produce a massive amount of energy, or some kind of energy

and also "the great one" titan

or champion titan i guess aswll

because wasnt the dreadnought taken in tda when you jsut launched ballistas at him a bunch?

[hard thistle]

Yeah, they aren't. TDA says Titans are from a world Hell conquered, but the Icon of Sin is blatantly a "native" demon.

The term Titan isn't for a single species, but moreso a "class" of demon.

[graceful lion]

meant to call champion and great titan as the same ones

[graceful lion]

while the icon is a titan, he is a special titan

[hard thistle]

Nah, the Slayer killed the Dreadnought before TDA happens. That was in Taras Nabad - the first level is set in Khalim.

[graceful lion]

same thing as maykrs i guess, the khan are just another "class" of maykr

[graceful lion]

oh right, wb the champion tho

was the titan that swallowed the energy core special?

or was it the armored one, or are those just one and the same class of titans but doomguy was in a bit of a tight spot

i feel the latter from a story standpoint

[hard thistle]

The Champion, as in the dead, skeletal Titan we see in 2016, is killed after the events of TDA.

[graceful lion]

i see

[hard thistle]

Not really.

[graceful lion]

ok so both of the minigunned titans and energy core armored titan are just there to mae it dramatic and shit

[hard thistle]

Yeah, it's just for fun.

The only "special" "Titan" in TDA is the Old One in the penultimate level, as I would argue it has become a Titan by virtue of joining Hell and getting, uh, de-godified or whatever.

[hearty edge]

after enhanced ahzrak ahzrak and the witch feels like a violation

[fervent maple]

I'm guessing the process by which the Old One was reanimated removed his godly powers. That, or the fact that he... yknow, died meant he would never be the same regardless.

[hearty edge]

love how the slayer nonchalantly killed 4 of the old one's species in the span of like 10 minutes

then dies and revives just to kill his boss an hour later

[drowsy pulsar]

Hey guys if you value your brain cells never watch an Asmongold stream. Was watching him play Expedition 33 and apparently at the time he stopped his playthru of TDA and his chat took it as an opportunity to shit all over this game, calling it Doom The Mid Ages and shit. Just wow

[hard thistle]

i was so close to getting a pc gamepass but i need a card

[graceful lion]

yea he was also bound to hell or something

after dying

or i mean, being reanimated

[thorny yarrow]

Is there a known soft lock in Ressurection?

[sudden stump]

shoot the barrier with plasma

[thorny yarrow]

Uhhh, what?

Since when? XD

I never would have thought to do that.

That's the only time that heppens ever, isn't it?

Was that added?

[sudden stump]

It's to remind you that you can shoot Kreed's barrier to break it faster, added last patch

[silent surge]

it has / had the atlan dash tutorial, that looks like the same type of barrier (though it isn’t)

cycler > accelerator on kreed’s shield

[thorny yarrow]

Okay, I've got tutorials turned off. Would it have told me?

[silent surge]

not really

[sudden stump]

Yes but sometimes it gives you the Atlan dash tutorial thanks to a bug

[thorny yarrow]

Uhuh.

Okay, so I only got horrendously confused because my tutorials are off, but there's a chance I would have been confused anyway. XD

[surreal mango]

@midnight cedar

[hearty edge]

also can i just say holy shit that shi's so strong i wasted like 50 plasma

[upbeat junco]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1122224504576430093/1411462456412344430/DOOM_The_Dark_Ages_2025.08.30_-_23.08.46.02.DVR-00.00.19.176-00.00.45.384.mp4?ex=68b4be59&is=68b36cd9&hm=fa2190cb1ed292d932ab8c6708076005ae10256ba0873a2731545e3dd48cb434& how many times do i need to hit him to execute him

also realized that a hell knight got slimed out by a single punch wtf 😭

[scenic lichen]

does anyone know whats different about kreed's fight specifically

[harsh egret]

lmao yh that happens sometimes with vagaries

[upbeat junco]

[hard thistle]

its me ona alt..TO THE ONES THAT DOUBTED ME...I FINALLY GOT IT

[stoic forge]

Would I be crazy to keep using the flail instead of the dreadmace? I hate how infrequently I get to use the dreadmace.

[solid nacelle]

I mean you're getting really poor damage from the flail so there's that

[slender onyx]

honestly i still wish we would to see doomguy kill the dreadnought
maybe have it at the beginning or a flashback

[primal cave]

Guys how do i make it less laggy

[stoic forge]

Melee is just part of my standard attack combo already and it gets messed up by never having a melee charge available. Plus ammo has become more of a problem now.

[mossy jetty]

what are ur specs

[merry sapphire]

no go with whatever is fun for you

i usually stick with fists

they are really fun

[upbeat junco]

gauntlets are so peak

[sudden stump]

flail is dogshit tier as far as damage goes, consider the gauntlet instead if you need damage but don't wanna use the mace

[merry sapphire]

yeah, too bad the game feels horrible now to play in ripatorium

tried playing ripatorium again man i just cant enjoy it

[harsh egret]

whats so unfun randomly now lol

[merry sapphire]

not randomly been complaining about this since the update dropped

how buggy it all feels

other than the ssg delay bug, theres something that feels very off when playing ripatorium that i dont feel in campaign

[harsh egret]

weird, i dont feel anything

apart from falling through the map twice but that was it

[merry sapphire]

its probably the bad presets ive been doing, cause so far i enjoyed none of the encounters i made

they really should have done presets cause gamers are not designers

[harsh egret]

u said buggy, not poorly balanced encounters tho

so which one :d

[merry sapphire]

both i guess?

the enemy spam i put made me feel the shield wasnt doing enough, which feels buggy

then again, like i said im not really sure the cause of it

[harsh egret]

can be if u put the time in to understand all the chess pieces and how they work together and so on (smth that will be alot better when they add custom waves)

[merry sapphire]

yeah but im not trynna do all that i just want fun encounters 😭

[harsh egret]

yh i get that, thats probably most people anyway

[merry sapphire]

ironically i did not notice the shield being better in anyway despite the logs

it just feels worse due to the ssg, with none of the positive stuff they said they added to make it feel better

what pisses me off is that they already fixed the ssg bug and rolled it out but then reverted it because it allowed people to do combos

like i understand wanting players to not have an exploit but id genuinely rather that than forcing us on a weapon breaking bug

[harsh egret]

not sure about that lol, it feels more responsive especially throwing and recalling and blocking while switching and stuff

[deft chasm]

I kinda wonder now if the Slayer will ever adopt the shield again in a potential sequel to Eternal...hrmmm

[merry sapphire]

it doesnt feel like that for me to be honest

[sudden stump]

Yeah those mechanics feel slick now. But the block bug definitely does offset some of the good feeling

[harsh egret]

it will always be smth different, i doubt it

[merry sapphire]

i dont think they are ever going to make a sequel to eternal, it seems that they are basing the next doom games in the dark ages saga, before the sealing of the slayer

cause like what can you do after beating davoth and essentially sealing hell off from everywhere?

[harsh egret]

i would be surprised if they stop making doom games anytime soon

[sudden stump]

I mean what is there even left to do in a eternal sequel? besides go after some new elder gods they make up on the spot

[harsh egret]

i mean everything is made up at some point

[deft chasm]

Cosmic Realm

[merry sapphire]

there is the primeval stuff that we got 0 explanation for but yeah. the only thing they could do is build lore in the dark ages saga and have it pay off in a sequal for eternal

[deft chasm]

We have other entities now thanks to Dark Ages

🗿

[sudden stump]

cosmic realm may have already been hellified after TDA

[merry sapphire]

cosmic realm is already dying in this game brah it only got like 1 more game for it

[harsh egret]

we dont know enough about it

[deft chasm]

If the Cosmic Realm is true to Lovecraftian lore.

There are plenty other gods out there that are OP asf

☕️

[merry sapphire]

we do know that its dying though, and the place does look dead as hell

[merry sapphire]

probably not cause if thats true what the fuck is the slayer gonna do

[harsh egret]

Well who knows, maybe it wont always be in a dying state, idk

[deft chasm]

Yog Sothoth is hinted to be seeing you in Dark Ages

That's a true monster right there

[merry sapphire]

cosmic realm stuff is sick but like, doom is about hellish stuff. i dont want the next game to only focus on cosmic realm. leave that for a quake reboot

[deft chasm]

Lovecraftian lore is actually perfect

We know there are more Wraiths currently in hibernation atm

[merry sapphire]

is that the purple eye you see in the cosmic realm? cause i dont remember anything like that

[harsh egret]

I feel like it can be both

[deft chasm]

Yog Sothoth is known as the "All seeing" entity in the void. He's definitely no joke

[harsh egret]

Hell, it seems the dlc will be alot about hell (no pun intended)

[deft chasm]

I can definitely see a post Hell Doom taking place in the Cosmic Realm again

Who knows what other horror type entities still exist even after Davoth's defeat

[sudden stump]

There is the mysterious voice, they could have used the cosmic realm to follow up on it but they didn't so far

[deft chasm]

Eternal's sequel would take place in some alien world far far away in the distant future I reckon

New Praetor suit ect

I truly believe the Doom devs just gave us a taste of what's coming next. We'll be seeing more eldrich type horrors soon

[stoic forge]

Hey what’s a good strat for Cacos and also the stupid witch clone things? They’re really difficult for me.

[merry sapphire]

where was this mentioned?

[sage schooner]

For cacos, I like to isolate them and spam shield toss and impaler/rocket launcher/shredder with pincushion until they’re in stagger state.

Witch clones, I like to charge my shield by killing a few fodder with the toss and then shield bash +ssg/impaler to head and melee.

[deft chasm]

Not mentioned but very much hinted as to existing. Since the Old One is practically Cthulhu

[merry sapphire]

so where was he hinted

other than that the cosmic realm draws inspiration from lovecraft

[warm ibex]

perhaps he's referring to the eyes embedded in the environment that follow you around as you move

and the giant eye in the distance

I like the eye themes, very nice little detail on top of the aquatic stuff

[merry sapphire]

like, the whole thing is yog?

holy shit horde Mode Gaming

[uneven mortar]

the day asmongold is outed as a sex predator i'm inviting everyone i know over and popping a bottle of champagne

Has there been any communication regarding SSG yet?

[stoic forge]

What is “charging” the shield? I don’t think I bought that

[sage schooner]

When you upgrade the shield with one of the upgrades (I can’t recall the name), you can increase the damage of shield bash by killing fodder with the shield toss and picking up the little shield blade icons.

[alpine pilot]

Where doom

[graceful lion]

well, with proper proof and not from some twitter post or something that just says shit

[upbeat junco]

Memorize cacaodemons spawns and shield saw them before they do the bullshit fence minigame and dig at it with your melees

for the acolytes hunt them down before they get a chance to spawn the clone