the-dark-ages

[harsh egret]

also thats a very questionable opinion

[uneven mortar]

They're not randomized??? That seems like a no-brainer

[harsh egret]

hugo said it should work like that a week before quakecon

[uneven mortar]

I would like to see presets take priority over master levels so people are satisfied while they take all the time they need for the MLs

[harsh egret]

it always the 2nd and the 4th out of the 5 that are parryable

they are doing both at the same time

[exotic jetty]

Dinosaurs taste like chicken

[uneven mortar]

Thats soooo hecking random

[harsh egret]

i would rather get master levels first than some quick ripatorium preset sharing system

[uneven mortar]

That's crazy to me

[exotic jetty]

Goes into creative mode

Minecraft nostalgia intensifies

[harsh egret]

master levels dont even need the ppl that would work on that system lol

so imo they can do both at the same time

but anyway, they prob have plans already on how to do things and its likely best to accept such system is likely also not happening

[grizzled thicket]

Allrrright

[uneven mortar]

I'm not arguing against that, I'm just stating my preference of what I'd pick first

[exotic jetty]

35÷5=

[harsh egret]

k can u stop yappin bro

[exotic jetty]

7

[uneven mortar]

holds up spork

[exotic jetty]

Wall-E

[uneven mortar]

Thats soo random

Can we get rid of this guy

[solemn mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/what-is-going-on-dwight-schrute-the-office-whats-going-on-whats-happening-gif-25628842

[harsh egret]

bro is either high, or 9 yo

[uneven mortar]

8yo

[harsh egret]

🤓 cant be here if ur under 13 mate

[exotic jetty]

If you forget yourspacesuit on your way to your funeral and the cat in you hair throws up purple what do you do

[uneven mortar]

Why have you got johnny depp listed as one of your interests in your bio, that's embarrassing plus he's a wife beater

[exotic jetty]

Btw I'm 14🤓

[harsh egret]

no ur not

anyway go back to general bud

[exotic jetty]

Firstly don't me dissing my boi secondly his movies are Hella good

[uneven mortar]

Not usually because of him

[exotic jetty]

It's just my opinion

[uneven mortar]

It's a bad opinion

[exotic jetty]

Nothing wrong with my own damn business

[uneven mortar]

Yes there is

[harsh egret]

this is not very dark ages ngl

[uneven mortar]

I agree

[solemn mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/tablestory-blade-runner-electric-dreams-myre-rj-gif-17285848502727632654

[exotic jetty]

Yea it's not very dark ages

[harsh egret]

yes like i said go back to general

[exotic jetty]

Anyway what's your favorite boss fight in dark ages

[grizzled thicket]

Dude y did u ping me with this 6 (7)

[exotic jetty]

I unno

[grizzled thicket]

Jaahas

[harsh egret]

what DO u know

[exotic jetty]

About what

[harsh egret]

exactly

[exotic jetty]

Name something I can know about like what subject

Anyway again what's your favorite boss fight in dark ages

[upbeat junco]

Aggadon Champion pre-update 2

[delicate grotto]

Enhanced Azhrak, no question. Best Doom boss in the series.

[exotic jetty]

Now those are some words I was looking for your hired

[uneven mortar]

Yet another discussion killed by lolrandom slop posting

[raw drum]

i loved the fact it tests the skill you learnt throughout the game instead of just being another big bullet sponge

[exotic jetty]

Dies of not wanting to deal with bullshit
Go to #general with this

[raw drum]

it is 100% my fav boss right behind samur

[exotic jetty]

Nice real noice

[unkempt dragon]

Please go over the #rules-and-info for this server again before you keep doing stuff. You seem to be here to pot-stir and cause trouble and it would be appreciated if you went over the rules. Thank you.

[exotic jetty]

No I'm just being me

But I will go to readme

[unkempt dragon]

Thank you

[jaunty canyon]

hello guys, How do I play ripatorium? I select the map and (as I saw on youtube) I should select the difficulty, but it is greyed out. Cannot start it.

ah never mind, (for reasons beyond me) the default setting is no enemies

[harsh egret]

what lol

[upbeat junco]

😭❓

[harsh egret]

the default should be max enemies then

[unkempt dragon]

send an email to modmail instead of a ping and we can all go over it together

[frosty dagger]

how do people 100% this game? i can't get the life essence in the cthulhu level,,

[solemn mauve]

Guide

[raven vine]

Has the ssg bug been patched yet

[solemn mauve]

Nah

[sudden stump]

It's the weekend so no

Hopefully after tomorrow though

[frosty dagger]

guide?

[solemn mauve]

YouTube, 100% collectibles doom the dark ages. Select the collectible you need to get for the level.

[frosty dagger]

you didn't read what i said then

the problem is that i literally do not get the health essence after killing the "boss"

that bug was in the game since release but it still didn't fix for me

[harsh egret]

tf never heard of that bug before

[solemn mauve]

Ikr, have no idea how that's even possible

[spark elm]

It’s official, the Shredder has the worst mastery challenge.

[shadow flame]

man I feel so bad for using the automap to find secrets bruh
its so handy and useful you just can't help it but you know that finding all of em on your complete own would feel 900 times more rewarding

I try the hardest I can to stop myself from using it

[spark elm]

On my current run, I’ve gotten 36 points of progress on this Shredder challenge putting me 18-54, but dangit wish I could go quick on this one

[hasty stone]

how many more balanced changes is dark ages gonna get because it feels like a live-service single player game with these always changes..

[solemn mauve]

I know, I am getting tired of all this but from what others have said, this is the last one

[green estuary]

I think there have been 2 balance changes lmao

[hasty stone]

nah there's been a lot of tune-ables already

[harsh egret]

not sure why thats a problem

and hugo said they are more or less done with balancing the game, they just got some bugs to fix after the last update

[hasty stone]

i think he said they are gonna buff the double shotgun a bit because he nerfed it too hard

[green estuary]

Tunables don’t equate to balance changes

But aside from that random hell knight-ssg interaction the only real balance changes have been in updates 1 and 2

[harsh egret]

god forbid devs making changes to improve the game before master levels and dlc

[spark elm]

finally shredder is done!

Accelerator is gonna be so much easier

[jaunty canyon]

exactly

[sleek ocean]

Did they make another balance rollout in the last 24 hours? Game feels a bit easier than it did 12ish hours ago

[harsh egret]

no

[sudden stump]

last tunable change was the chaingunner nerf, unless you can point something out specifically it's most likely just placebo

[solemn mauve]

I wonder what the ssg buff will be? Damage against specific demons again? Or quicker reloading?

[sudden stump]

Just fixing the delay bug would a big enough buff for me lol. But they'll probably reign back the damage nerfs a bit.

[solemn mauve]

Yeah need my insta block first

[green estuary]

me trying to find a lore reason why hell knights and pinkies take 54% less damage from the ssg

[sleek ocean]

Heard that, totally could be placebo. Just sanity checking

[green estuary]

also it is funny, because the nerfs have actually made the TDA ssg pretty comfortably the weakest out of all its iterations

[sleek ocean]

Def looking forward the ssg buff, it feels very weak rn

[solemn mauve]

Yup

[green estuary]

in terms of damage to enemies, it wasn't even that unprecedented to begin with--it just felt like it because this game inherently incentivizes playing closer to enemies, where the ssg obviously excels

like for instance, eternal's ssg will easily two-shot stagger a mancubus if you hit all pellets from close range

[sleek ocean]

The ssg feels so weak against mancs especially right now. Makes me wonder what the point of the armor damage upgrade is lol

[green estuary]

doom 2016's ssg won't do that, but that's more of a statement about how insanely tanky mancs were in 2016 than anything else

[solemn mauve]

Yeah they buffed man hp

[green estuary]

ssg only does appreciable armor damage to shields now

[solemn mauve]

And of course nerfed damage against man

Mancubus*

[sleek ocean]

So I know what that means but my friend doesn't, can you explain it to him?

[sudden stump]

It should do the most damage against fat enemies and yet it has high resistance against mancs

[green estuary]

well essentially each piece of armor has its own "health bar" so to speak
and more often than not, when a particular unit takes less damage from a certain weapon, so too does that unit's armor (if it has any), unless the armor damage file specifically says so
all heavy units with armored variants take reduced damage from the ssg now, which means their corresponding armored variants' armor also takes less damage from the ssg

shield soldiers and chaingunners don't have damage mitigation against the ssg, and neither do their shields, so the ssg should still deal good armor damage against them

[shadow flame]

lmao this feels great to read as an SSG main

[green estuary]

funny, isn't it
the enemies where you're most likely to land all pellets don't even reward you for doing so

[shadow flame]

if its getting a buff I can't wait

[sleek ocean]

Gotcha, I suppose that makes sense

[sleek ocean]

Fr they nerfed my combos lol, I've been using the chainshot now against pinkies and mancs, works pretty well I suppose but I miss getting in close with the ssg and stuff

[green estuary]

chainshot is just the objectively best gun for armor damage now, and it's not even close tbh

flail obviously does mega damage to armor but it barely scratches anything else lmao

[shadow flame]

I use SSG for literally everything general like killing imps (The brown ones big ones do they have a different name?)
or stuff like overheating shields. I used Chainshot and always have been using Chainshot against armor because it just erases it

[sleek ocean]

Ik, it's wild, it full heats most if not all armored demons in one shot, nothing else comes close to working that fast. I don't hate this being the best armor damage gun but the ssg feels stupid weak in comparison

[shadow flame]

also I think I will begin using pulverizer after upgrading it a bit against mancubi. The idea that you get a speed boost exclusively on that goofy weapon makes it a more interesting pick

cause I never use it against groups of fodder, for that I just use the shield throw

[sudden stump]

Pulverizer is amazing once you get into the flow of it

Used to like the ravager more but I almost never use it now

[shadow flame]

yeah I wonder if I will even use the second weapon to the Chainshot once I unlock it. I upgraded the Chainshot to the max already and it's my favorite gun against the aggadon

[sudden stump]

there is only one reaver gun

[shadow flame]

ah alright

[mental grotto]

People sleep on this gun but it’s fucking good

[shadow flame]

I know there are two skull guns

[sudden stump]

I think the alternative to the chain shot was cut before release. It is weird that it's the only gun with one variation

[solemn mauve]

True, I use it exclusively when I'm in berserk mode

[shadow flame]

simply... It's the only class that doesn't need it

[solemn mauve]

Combine that with the speed

[green estuary]

speed

[solemn mauve]

Zoom the dark ages

[frail bloom]

How do I send an email to modmail

Someone help

Anyone

[mental grotto]

I’d start by clicking the website in the bot’s bio

[solemn mauve]

Didn't one of the mods say something about mod mail before, Samir?

[mental grotto]

You good?? 😭

[frail bloom]

I can't do that I'm limited

May someone take the mantle

[solemn mauve]

[frail bloom]

Plssss

Anyone really

[mental grotto]

I’m at work vro 💔

[frail bloom]

Anyone I said

[frail bloom]

Here's the message

I can't

So plsssss anyone else

[vague sinew]

wait

ssg buff incoming??!

i might cry from joy

[mental grotto]

Is this confirmed or

[solemn mauve]

It is, Hugo mentioned it iirc

[mental grotto]

Good. Definitely overtuned the nerfs

[unkempt dragon]

I am at work currently so please try to figure it out. Thanks

[solemn mauve]

[frail bloom]

I'm alone

[vague sinew]

i hope we get to see a dlc teaser in the next weeks

[frail bloom]

@harsh egret HEEEEEELLP

[mental grotto]

Samir I love ya buddy, but it seriously cannot be that hard to figure out 😭😭😭

[frail bloom]

I can't go to a different website

I got them parental controls

[solemn mauve]

[frail bloom]

Impossible rn

[mental grotto]

Are u old enough for discord

[solemn mauve]

Is there a timer or what lol

[frail bloom]

Yes dude

[solemn mauve]

How long?

[frail bloom]

I've had it for years

Like 5

Started when I was 11

So uh if anyone wants to do what I can't I'll appreciate that greatly

Hellooooo

https://tenor.com/view/milhouse-simpsons-frisbee-lonely-loneliness-gif-22891693

[merry jackal]

Yoo 30 hours in game and still at chapter 16

I got the perfection slayer skin tho

For 15 chapters 100 percebt

[frail bloom]

Damn

[merry jackal]

Which stage shld i be by now

[unkempt dragon]

You don't go to a different website. You message through the modmail on here.

[frail bloom]

How do I send an email?

[merry jackal]

Ssg buff????

[frail bloom]

We don't know y'all it's soon

[merry jackal]

Ngl the chainshoy kinda insane

I just parry n use chainsot

[frail bloom]

I KNOW I KNOW

PLS TELL ME

[merry jackal]

Wdym how email

Just go to gmail

[frail bloom]

Ye to modmail

[grizzled thicket]

I think it’s a dm u sent the bot

[merry jackal]

what

[grizzled thicket]

Or u sent a gmail I have no idea

[frail bloom]

So I send a dm?

[merry jackal]

Uhm

[grizzled thicket]

Yeah if I remeber corectly

[merry jackal]

Need more clarity

[frail bloom]

Let's see

[grizzled thicket]

The modmail bot

I think u dm it

[merry jackal]

god knows

Ig dm then it sends u instructin

[grizzled thicket]

The app litreally says dm for help

[frail bloom]

I think I did it

Wait it says click to visit a website

Dead end

Alr I need to verify myself but I can't go to other websitss

[harsh egret]

what happened

[frail bloom]

I need to send an email to modmail

I did the first step but I need to verify myself on a different website

[harsh egret]

pretty sure u dm the bot no?

[frail bloom]

I did

[harsh egret]

yh so then whats the problem

[frail bloom]

It says please click here to verify and then it sends me somewhere else and I can't do anything afterwards

Cuz I'm locked out

[harsh egret]

so what am i supposed to do then

[frail bloom]

Here just copy this message and pl send anyone and verify yourselves or smt

Is it possible in the near future that we may have channel for presets in Dark ages please? Just to avoid clogging the dark ages channel? Thanks.

Dm modmail with this pls

And then you gotta verify yourself

[harsh egret]

do we mention that hugo said that also

[frail bloom]

The hell is hugo gonna do

[harsh egret]

he is above the mods

[frail bloom]

He's a normal user

[harsh egret]

he decides

[frail bloom]

Well he should come in here then for once

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-tanamen-gecky-incorporeal-gif-21102682

[solemn mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/el-risitas-juan-joya-borja-ratones-coloraos-laugh-meme-laughing-man-gif-24899295

[frail bloom]

Until then, I hit a roadblock

So uhhh someone help

[harsh egret]

ive sent it

[frail bloom]

YIPEEE

Life saver

Thank you

[grizzled thicket]

Well someone did it

[harsh egret]

"Let me discuss this with the team and I'll get back to you on this."

[grizzled thicket]

Dam

[frail bloom]

Sweer

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-pepe-frog-talking-discussing-meme-gif-26871471

[frail bloom]

Sweet

[harsh egret]

live pov from the mods room

[grizzled thicket]

Atleast it’s not we’ll look into it

[harsh egret]

It makes no sense not to have it

alot of ppl like to play each others presets and want to find new ones

so instead of scrolling through hundreds of messages, why not make a new channel for ppl to post their presets

[grizzled thicket]

It does make sense

[harsh egret]

"Hi, Hato. Thanks for your feedback on improving the server. Currently there are no plans or anything to have a separate place for ripatorium presets but we will take into consideration how we may accommodate this in the future."

[solemn mauve]

Samir, you reading this

[leaden stone]

The issue with have, is that we don't want to make unnecessary channels that'll end up clogging up our existing channels. I'm actively looking into how popular this discussion comes up and whether it's worth adding. However we don't see a point to add a whole channel surrounding Ripatorium builds if there's not much demand in the first place.

[green estuary]

are threads a thing in this server or nah

[harsh egret]

Could make a poll

[leaden stone]

Polls doesn't necessarily mean demand

[frail bloom]

Oh

[leaden stone]

You guys mention clogging up TDA channel, but in reality I reckon Presets would fit best in this channel no?

[harsh egret]

Discussion about ripatorium presets and stuff is pretty popular here

Idk, i think lots of ppl would appreciate it

[frail bloom]

Have you seen me send my presets

[leaden stone]

It seems more tailored around being asking questions regarding presets rather than giving their builds

[frail bloom]

It's a lot to say the least

[harsh egret]

nah, its to post presets and people to find new presets they could try themselves

[leaden stone]

If there is more demand for it. We'll consider. The best thing you can do, show us there's demand

[harsh egret]

instead of someone asking for presets and waiting for someone who has 4-5 saved

[harsh egret]

right, how can we show that if not through a poll

[leaden stone]

Engage in conversations surrounding it, we see a lot of different discussions in this channel 🙂 the main reason we'll want to make a separate channel for such a topic is if the topic of presets and builds is tampering with the usual discussions we have surrounding TDA

[midnight marsh]

Hello @harsh egret @frail bloom I appreciate your commitment to the Ripatorium but what Hugo says on stream is sometimes not synchronized with the team here on Discord. Without knowing the Demand we cannot expand on the channels here because the organization will become a nightmare.
Therefore, we have this on our radar now and if the future materializes your suggestion we will see how we can make it happen.

Until then: Stand & Fight!

[frail bloom]

See hato

Hugo ain't ruler of everythang

[solemn mauve]

[harsh egret]

like i said, its more about ppl wanting to go through a list of ppls presets that they post instead of asking for presets and maybe theres people who have a few saved to share, or there might not

[merry jackal]

How many skins r there for the atlan

[solemn mauve]

Base and gold

[merry jackal]

And also the slayer

[midnight marsh]

That is a lot of "might" and that's the issue right now. We need more data to understand this and then make a decision. Thanks for reaching out.

[merry jackal]

Gold is for the deluxe edition right

[solemn mauve]

No, that's for UN

[merry jackal]

Bruh

How many slayer skins

UN i can try but I will say it will take me atleast 3-4 runs

After the ssg buff tho 😭

[solemn mauve]

Gotta wait for that

[merry jackal]

😭

When is next update

[solemn mauve]

Definitely not today

[merry jackal]

Ssg is supposed to be super

[merry jackal]

I have time then

[solemn mauve]

You're talking about the SSG hot fix? Heres hoping it comes in 2 days

[merry jackal]

Yea

Thank god 2 days

[solemn mauve]

I'm assuming

[harsh egret]

idk man im just trying anything lol

[merry jackal]

Ballists too good bruh it need nerf

[harsh egret]

i know obv

[merry jackal]

Im jk

It need buff more ammo

3 is not enoughh

[merry jackal]

[wheat sigil]

ballista in eternal does need a nerf true

[merry jackal]

I will wait

[merry jackal]

The huge bfg kinda thingy in tda

[wheat sigil]

bfc, ballistic force crossbow

[merry jackal]

Isk what it's called

[merry jackal]

Woah

[solemn mauve]

It's OK as it is

[merry jackal]

boss fights r ex

Just shoot it once n it's over

Except

Yea nope it's too bad

[solemn mauve]

Not necessarily true for Azhrak

[merry jackal]

Need more splash radius

[merry jackal]

Why spoil 😭

[solemn mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-there-i-see-you-steve-martin-peek-elevating-gif-5817023324089509140

[merry jackal]

Is ok

[frail bloom]

Alr I got my newest preset

Lemme just make it

(Type it out)

(10)"Arachnid Assault" loadout:

20 zombies
20 soldiers
5 unheated metal shield soldiers
5 energy shield soldiers
3 arachnotrons
3 armored arachnotrons
2 vagaries
1 vagary champion

This one was kinda hard for some reason

[harsh egret]

lots of buggers on the ground

ill try it later

[frail bloom]

Ye those buggses

[harsh egret]

samir have u tried mine yet lmao

[frail bloom]

OH NOOO

[harsh egret]

[frail bloom]

Lemme try out a new one first but send yours here

[solemn mauve]

(10)? As in 10 respawns?

[harsh egret]

10 soldiers
15 heated metal soldiers
5 energy shields
2 chaingunners
9 imps
3 nightmare imp stalkers
3 hell knights
2 armored arachno
1 mancubus leader
1 revenant leader
1 whiplash
1 acolyte
1 acolyte leader
1 cosmic baron

[frail bloom]

No it's my 10th preset

[solemn mauve]

[harsh egret]

10 respawns of that sounds like... smth

[solemn mauve]

Speaking of 10 respawns, I would like to give you a preset challenge

[harsh egret]

uh oh

[solemn mauve]

1x Aggadon Champion (10 respawns)

Max Difficulty Sliders

[harsh egret]

doesnt sound too bad

[solemn mauve]

Ok, u know what max difficulty sliders are?

[uneven flame]

that’s like a souls boss

[solemn mauve]

[harsh egret]

150% speed is just not fun for me so

[solemn mauve]

Oh

[harsh egret]

other than that i can try

[solemn mauve]

50% damage to demons

500% damage to slayer

[harsh egret]

i usually do 110% lowest parry

[solemn mauve]

Ok

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/illgiveitatry-christopherwalken-gif-4755332

[wheat sigil]

as long as you got your parries down this is really easy

[solemn mauve]

Yup

[frail bloom]

(11)"Bruiser Brothers" loadout:

10 zombies
30 soldiers
5 heated metal shield soldiers
3 pinky riders
3 armored pinky riders
3 pinky rider leaders
2 agaddon champions

[frail bloom]

Alr time to try

[solemn mauve]

So basically it's a great way to improve your parries against agaddons in general

[wheat sigil]

annoying thing is just the last frame parries

[solemn mauve]

Have you tried with a cyberdemon leader instead?

[wheat sigil]

they can somewhat be justified, but it feels really bad

[wheat sigil]

i haven't tried with an agaddon or cyberdemon as both sounds boring as shit lol

[solemn mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/el-risitas-juan-joya-borja-ratones-coloraos-laugh-meme-laughing-man-gif-24899295

[frail bloom]

@harsh egret did it

Give name, now

[solemn mauve]

Don't know about you but doing this against a cosmic baron is hell

[harsh egret]

how was it

[frail bloom]

Pretty fun

I think the acolytes were the most annoying

Obv

[wheat sigil]

same thing again, if you got tour parries down it's super easy
and i really don't feel like learning a strict parry timing for absolutely no reason

[harsh egret]

i enjoyed having one acolyte being a leader instead of both being normal acolytes more

which is how it was in the first version

anyway, i have no clue for name like i said so fuck that

[wheat sigil]

making the parry window tighter is just the most uninteresting way to make it harder for me at least

[true anchor]

Dark ages multiplayer when

[wheat sigil]

like yeahh, i could spend time improving my timing, orr i could spend time actually getting better at the game lol

[mild lichen]

i not getting the quakecon 2025 skin

[solar cairn]

There won’t be

[mild lichen]

i have to wait like 48 hours?

[frail bloom]

@solemn mauve wanna play my bruiser brothers loadout?

It's based on the last level of episode one

Phobos base

[solemn mauve]

Hold up, let me read it

[frail bloom]

There's no classic barons tho

Or spectres

So it's the best I can recreate

Same with the plutonia preset

No archviles sadly

[solemn mauve]

Hey thats looks fun imo, well the thing is I'm going to sleep soon. OK, I will just dm you with Screenshots when I'm done tomorrow 👍

[vague sinew]

man the ssg shield delay is causing me more deaths than any enemy i'm dealing with

[frail bloom]

Le time zones

[vague sinew]

i hope they patch it fast

[frail bloom]

I don't use it

But good luck y'all

[wheat sigil]

it's been here for quite a while already, so yea😭

[frail bloom]

Why does no one have like 5 presets under their belt

I have a whole selection

[vague sinew]

i use it as my main weapon, i'm stuck on spire of nerathul on pandemonium. every time i die i have to cheat by using the ragequit bug so i don't lose the save file. i gave up on pandemonium.

[frail bloom]

Stop having jobs and pursuing your careers ugh

Just doom all day

Fr

I gots like 11 presets

If they let you save your presets I better be able to make like 30 total

[vague sinew]

5 are enough imo

[frail bloom]

5????

[vague sinew]

yes

[frail bloom]

Only 5 SLOTS???

[vague sinew]

yeah

[frail bloom]

And snap map lets you make as much maps as possible

Content sharing has fell off

[vague sinew]

i mean, unless they either make it infinite like snapmap, i don't think there'll be more than 7 slots

[frail bloom]

I don't imagine it hard to make slots for ripatorium

It's not the campaign

It's literally one arena

I imagine like 30 total

Tsk tsk where has technology went

[frail bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-dog-sleeping-sleeping-dog-dog-sleeping-tiny-eepy-dog-gif-2292331323183720739

[frail bloom]

Dawg

[upbeat junco]

"this one was kinda hard for some reason" i mean, it's not like you're being gunned down by 6 chainguns

just for merely existing

[frail bloom]

But they're squishy

Finally, life

You'd expect more ppl to share presets but no one's interested

Like c'mon now

[frail bloom]

Technically it's 3 chainguns

Cuz armored arachnotrons are not hitscan

[upbeat junco]

true, mb

[frail bloom]

No prob

[green estuary]

pfft, rookie numbers

[frail bloom]

I know I know

Lemme dig into one of my presets, if they have more

Huh

I don't have 3 chaingunners with 3 arachnotrons in any of them

I know my next preset let's just say

[green estuary]

it's the "I'm taking damage and I don't know why" preset

[frail bloom]

Nah Imma put a bunch of rune bait enemies too

I'm not evil

All my presets give plenty of parry projectiles

Tailor made for rune usage

[harsh egret]

saleem had a good one like that lmao

Take Cover Preset

6 Imp stalkers
10 Soilders (normal ones)

2 Battleknights
3 Arachnoboi
2 Mancubi
2 Mancubi Armored
1 Arachnoboi Armored
2 revenant
3 Pinky jocky

2 Cyberdemon
2 cacodemons
1 vagary

[green estuary]

no cacodemons are seeing the inside of my ripatorium until they fix the wind up bug on their projectiles thank you very much

[versed sage]

best game ever

[harsh egret]

thats why the preset is funny

[spark storm]

sorry if this has been asked a million times but is ripatorium bugged? my encounters keep ending with enemies left on the map?

[wooden dock]

Any cacodemons in presets get my bfc shot. That's the only thing I ever use it for

[wooden dock]

Just happens sometimes

[spark storm]

happens quite often for me i'm afraid

[harsh egret]

never happened to me

only big bug for me has been the normal vagary sometimes turning into a champion vagary

[frail bloom]

DEAAAAD DEAAAD I SAYYY

[upbeat junco]

min parry atlan is definitely something

[solid nacelle]

That was just unfun

[upbeat junco]

?

[solid nacelle]

When I first saw the option for it I put it to the lowest setting cause I'm an epic gamer but it ended up not being fun at all

[upbeat junco]

yea

final battle pandemonium got whooped in the first 2 arenas

definitely an experience

[silent surge]

haven’t tried it, how nasty is it?
considering the default on nightmare is large max

[upbeat junco]

bad 😢

[upbeat junco]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1122224504576430093/1406780686702084136/Desktop_2025.08.18_-_01.21.21.03-00.01.09.820-00.01.15.634.mp4?ex=68a3b61c&is=68a2649c&hm=81fb95f45a6be654bb676abd7ad6348b76c645fe2b22c3e9be9d3e65707b4a88& this shoulda been a perfect dodge imo but idk, you really have to try it out for yourself to know how it is

im not the best at atlan parrying anyway its the least i play

[solid nacelle]

That's fucked up

[upbeat junco]

also like try parrying multiple at once when its that tight lol

[frail bloom]

Ew

They're meant to be pace breakers anyway why make them super hard

[upbeat junco]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1122224504576430093/1406781816807096561/Desktop_2025.08.18_-_01.25.48.04-00.01.08.079-00.01.20.350.mp4?ex=68a3b729&is=68a265a9&hm=4f5f3ecba04b2ae9f134a88a8697425e930c8d4d5b80d7fd61faccceec99d2f8& def not doing min atlan dodge again

^i pressed space to dodge his attack but it wasnt frame perfect so he still got a hit lol

whatever we take the L and move on

i wonder how horrid the old one fight is

[frail bloom]

Ye you're done

You're gonna vanquish

Might as well die

For real here

[upbeat junco]

true

[tidal eagle]

has anyone encountered a soft lock on getting the purple key in ancestral forge? there's bright orange arena barriers that dont let me enter

[hearty edge]

chat the grenade launcher doesnt have any self damage right

[green estuary]

I’m 90% sure it does
There’s no way you get an explosive weapon without self damage

[wooden dock]

Yes, it's quite common

4 people here including you now have reported it

[sudden stump]

It does self damage, not as much as the rocket launcher but it is there

[hearty edge]

oh wow i just melted the aggadon champion in like 20 seconds with the accelerator

[upbeat junco]

it does

[hearty edge]

alr i was just asking as i dont think i had any self damage from it on my first playtrough

or if i did then i didnt notice

[upbeat junco]

its miniscule when compared to the rocket launcher

oh i forgot to mention this idk if people found out already

the berserk does not grant you infinite BFC ammo anymo 😢

[sudden stump]

It does still give you infinite melee charges though so spam the mace

[upbeat junco]

true

[wooden dock]

I love how creative the rocket launcher upgrades are this game is awesome
It stays a legitimate tool despite also leaning into healing

[frail bloom]

Saves my bacon a lot

Healing plus a parry rocket

[wooden dock]

Parry rockets are cool too, great for revenants

[frail bloom]

Very cool

Pairs well with the dreadmace

[sudden stump]

Rocket launcher is my favorite choice when I have to parry the cacodemon's ranged attack

[frail bloom]

Are y'all able to block while parrying btw

Or "block a frame while switching" or whatever

[wooden dock]

Chainshot parry is cool but it doesn't nearly have the range or speed to it
A lot of the tradeoff with chainshot's power is how slow it can be if you aren't getting constant parries

[hearty edge]

i didnt even know it did b4

[upbeat junco]

yea it was quite funny

[hearty edge]

yea its pretty cool

[upbeat junco]

there was this funny thing that allowed you to BFC about 60% of harbor of souls

and it involved the berserk at the start, quite a funny thing

[wooden dock]

Balanced

[frail bloom]

Bla

When dlc

[hearty edge]

tomorrow

[upbeat junco]

tomorrow

[frail bloom]

Give me it I'm starving

[hearty edge]

how tf

[frail bloom]

Put quickswap and bring back micky d from his cave

[upbeat junco]

real recognizes real

[frail bloom]

C'mon Marty or Hugo whatever you're the same person

Obv fr fr

[hearty edge]

who is micky d

[frail bloom]

Yur mom

[hearty edge]

shes not in a cave

[frail bloom]

I'm not going further.

[hearty edge]

why did nobody tell me my charger wasnt plugged in that's why i was locked at 30 fps

[frail bloom]

Better late than never

How is it now

Has any doomtuber made a livestream playing tag for the first time I wanna watch something like that

I can't find any tho

[hearty edge]

like around 50

[frail bloom]

I mean that's better

I guess

[silent surge]

i streamed it but it was on twitch

[frail bloom]

NOOOOOO I WANNA WATCH IT

[silent surge]

shoot that’s been years, it’s gone by now RIP

i have my reaction to 2016 UN!

i remember trying to be quiet cause my mom was over not that i had to

[frail bloom]

I guess it was too early before we had those types of vids on youtube

[green estuary]

50 fps on a laptop 2060 isn’t bad at all

[hearty edge]

its a 3050 but ye

although on some levels i do get like 30

[green estuary]

Oh even crazier then
Considering the 2060 is significantly faster than the 3050

[hearty edge]

heck even 20 something in the room where you get the super shotgun

[green estuary]

[hearty edge]

cool

[green estuary]

Oof

[hearty edge]

still havent ran out of life sigils in my nightmare run as of now so cool

[green estuary]

I actually enjoy playing nightmare more like 2016, with no 1ups
Feels like I didn’t beat a fight properly if I use a 1up

Although that said congrats
I wish pandaemonium worked like extra life mode in eternal

Because restarting a level like siege 1 or spire of nerathul because of a death just feels a bit much

[frail bloom]

Huh the math ain't mathing

I thought bigger numbers=better

Guess not?

WE'RE BEING SCAAAAMMMEEED

[frank turtle]

spire is so long lol

[upbeat junco]

Yeah

[hollow sandal]

Yea

[raven vine]

chain gunner nerf

cracking open a cold one on this fine evening

[frank turtle]

fax

[hearty edge]

same actually

[hearty edge]

wait it doesnt

damn

[frank turtle]

doom all max sliders

I tried it once and it was unbelievably hard

[solid nacelle]

I'm so glad they added a slider for 1 ups. There's a few pieces of gold in level 4 in a location that you can only exit by going through a 1 up. So I'd either have to pick it up or restart my checkpoint but not anymore with the update. So epic

[frank turtle]

Ya, I like playing with no 1 ups usually

[marble seal]

Hear me out on The Witch fr

[velvet elbow]

THE COLLEGE GYM IS FREEEEEEE

AND EVEN AFTER A YEAR I DIDN’T LOSE MY MAXES

[uneven mortar]

SSG fixed yet?

[solar cairn]

Is something broken there again?

[uneven mortar]

Cant block after firing

[solar cairn]

The delay was fixed a week ago

Isn’t it?

[uneven mortar]

They unfixed it

[raw drum]

theomachy is actually a primeval track

lowkey the best one in the ost

[north spire]

Basically, they fixed it and it caused an unintended issue so now they’re looking at it again. It’ll be fixed soon, we just gotta wait patiently

[solar cairn]

[solemn mauve]

Remember that quick swapping exploit from before, yeah that's the reason why they reverted it

[raw drum]

doom is always known for its smrat enemy ai it would be cool if the enemies were intelligent enough to attack you from behind

[alpine pilot]

where doom

[wooden dock]

[naive wigeon]

they do

[raw drum]

wait they do?

nvm

[naive wigeon]

ya

[manic mist]

does doom dark ages run two apps? Because what the devs did I'm now considering not buying dark ages

[harsh egret]

?

[split gate]

wdym

[solemn mauve]

What the hell is even that? 2 apps?

[arctic flame]

When will the Super Shotgun reloading bug be fixed? It was fixed temporarily for me on Wednesday last week but then playing over the weekend the bug was back.

[solemn mauve]

The fix should be soon, the reason why the bug is back because in that fix, there was an unintended exploit where you could quick swap from SSG to another gun without the animation of reloading (like in eternal for example)

[arctic flame]

Thanks for the info Bro, glad to heart that it'll be fixed soon.

[shadow flame]

dude was I dreaming or did that charged pulverizer just S H R E D that cyberdemon
new favorite gun???

[shadow flame]

Holy shit the pulverizer might just be the most useful gun because of the speed boost. Just found out you can skip the whole normal secret key section in Siege part II and jump straight for the platform if you have the pulverizer charged up, felt so god damn satisfying

[vague siren]

dlc news?

[solar cairn]

Not before the end of the year, I think

[frank turtle]

yeah it's super underrated

[north spire]

i think the pulveriser is very underrated

[blissful hawk]

Is it me or Is it easier to get platinum trophy for the dark ages on ps5 than other Doom games?

[stoic forge]

Omg I thought it was just me. The music didn’t jump out at me while playing or even listening the first time.

[patent robin]

anyone got any ideas for a run i can do? def not ready for un yet

[split gate]

Yeah the mixing at launch wasn’t pretty, glad it’s now fixed, it’s lit

[patent robin]

holy i havent played in a minute but the slowdown slider is so nice

getting to piece up demons with a mean left hook at full speed is amazing 😭

[split gate]

It’s so fun not having slow mo anymore, it changes the game

[patent robin]

100%

the atlan gameplay is amazing now too

i loved it before but the quick ass punches on the unarmored titans is lit

[frail bloom]

You know it's gonna be the usual

[upbeat junco]

my god

Resurrection is so fucking good

Absolutely cooked with the new fights

Minus the acolyte and rev leader at the start those 2 can burn in hell

[frail bloom]

Easy pickins

Give me dem

[frail bloom]

Ye it was mixed like balls on release

[slow zodiac]

so there's a new patch, let's see if they fixed the ssg block delay

[calm fulcrum]

whats in the new patch?

[alpine pilot]

whats the patch

[harsh egret]

hm?

[proud vine]

just tested it, they did not

[slow zodiac]

yeah, it feels like it's still there

[harsh egret]

just tested it as well lol yep

[proud vine]

it does feel better but it's still there

next time for sure trust me im hugo's neighbor

[solemn mauve]

[silent surge]

there’s a second “app” for the artbook/OST

[silent surge]

it’s good, at 1000% damage

no really like ripatorium 60 demons 1000% damage it shreds all

[sleek ermine]

why

[frail bloom]

Y'know "what the devs did" usually leads to a MG discussion

What was the patch today

[alpine pilot]

Where doom

[frail bloom]

Not here apparently

[hasty stone]

205mb patch

nobody knows yet

[solid nacelle]

I like patches that do nothing obvious that's so fun

I'm just gonna not update

[unreal terrace]

Ssg fix PLEASE 🙏🙏🙏

[hasty stone]

@solid nacellelol

[solar cairn]

New patch?

[hasty stone]

yeah

small one prolly some fixes

[harsh egret]

maybe they fixed some of the broken checkpoints

[hasty stone]

yea'

[silent surge]

what if it’s the dlc
it’s not
but what if

[harsh egret]

but if what the if dlc is the

[hasty stone]

id say dlc will be close to Xmas, it's only 1 DLC it will take long

[harsh egret]

i say early next year

[frail bloom]

No

[harsh egret]

Q1

[silent surge]

@harsh egret will be the next doom news youtuber and then get in a fight with @warm ibex

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-minions-popcorn-day-laugh-gif-5026739

[frail bloom]

I think more closer to march

So what was the patch

[silent surge]

no info yet

[frail bloom]

Chop chop

Just kidding

[harsh egret]

i was going to make doom vids but college and other stuff taking too much of my time

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-what-it-is-shrug-will-smith-idk-eh-gif-16144939

ive been saying this since like last year but theres good space for new doomtubers nowadays and ive seen doom content from small creators recently do really well so thats good to see

[frail bloom]

Raguel's a good one

Same with IconofSimp

I like Ungli. as well

Beansprout too maybe lmao

Dinoheretic if he does more music deepdive vids

[harsh egret]

i like lavaniel's channel also

[frail bloom]

Same

[harsh egret]

but yeah iconofsimp is a good 1

[delicate grotto]

Oh did a hotfix come out? I noticed there’s a new update for TDA

Guess I’ll check it out when I can

[dark thunder]

YO NEW UPDATE

PLEASE BE FIX THE SSG PLS HUGO

[fluid shore]

is TDA Really good?

[dark thunder]

very

[fluid shore]

worth 94$?

[harsh egret]

it didnt fix the ssg

[dark thunder]

I don't think any game is worth that much, but you can just play it on game pass or get the standard edition assuming u r in america

[fluid shore]

regional pricing

fuck u bethesda.

94 BUCKS. 94 USA DOLLARS. converted from local currency.

[unreal terrace]

https://tenor.com/view/tvshoot-gif-15833868568492314725

[harsh egret]

tbh if ur a diehard doom fan it is worth it

i would pay 100 for the base game but thats just me

[dark thunder]

game pass is a cheaper option assuming it's available in your country

[harsh egret]

and the price will be more justified once more content comes out and so on, just like they said

[fluid shore]

94$ is unreasonable
For that price the game better give me a goodnights kiss and do my laundry for a week

[harsh egret]

#artwork message

[frail bloom]

Tough luck

[harsh egret]

pretty cool arachnotron concepts

[frail bloom]

Does suck

[harsh egret]

dont think those were in the artbook

or i think a couple were

[frail bloom]

Why was I reminded of plants v. Zombies lol

I think it was the catapult one

[fluid shore]

Bro I don't live in fucking Switzerland or some shit either

[harsh egret]

yep lol

[frail bloom]

Heeeyy we need more catapult demons

[harsh egret]

very medieval designs

[frail bloom]

Ye it sucks

[harsh egret]

i like it

[frail bloom]

It's a very good game but I'd wait longer

94 is too much

Tryyyyy maybe october?

[fluid shore]

Next doom a mil Sim? To truly slow it down

[harsh egret]

if u wanna get a better bang for ur buck yeah, but if u know u will replay the game and play it again and again whenever content drops, and u can afford stuff now, then go for it, but it doesnt sound like u can

[arctic flame]

just had 288.3 MB update for the game on steam but SSG bug is still not fixed

[harsh egret]

lmfao

[frail bloom]

Trust me it's not slow at all

Despite the rumors

[dark thunder]

is that the base game price

[harsh egret]

its not eternal but it aint slow especially after recent updates

its fast in fact

[dark thunder]

u also gotta have a beefy computer too

[fluid shore]

Exactly
I wasn't being sarcastic
Its not
And itd be cool to see the next one be basically official hideous destructor

[fluid shore]

Oh I do
But 94 is base price yes

[dark thunder]

check game pass

[frail bloom]

Ye I'd wait till more content updates are introduced to compensate for that base price, or wait till a sale drops

[harsh egret]

next mainline doom game is a mobile game

"do you guys not have phones?!"

[frail bloom]

For now we have the campaign, ripatorium and the sliders

I'm expecting the ripatorium to be heavily expanded on aswell as a NG+ and obviously dlc

[dark thunder]

this is actually pretty nuts though that bug should be fixed already

[frail bloom]

Ye it's a bit strange on why it's taking a considerabl amt of time

Like almost 2 weeks now?

[harsh egret]

well im pretty sure id is capable of fixing it and if that hasnt happened yet, theres good reason for it
its clearly a pretty prioritized fix

[frail bloom]

I hope they talk abt more stuff they're doing this stream

[dark thunder]

its literally impossible to fight an aggadon with ssg

[frail bloom]

Hugo kept saying that they hve a lot to talk abt after quakecon

[dark thunder]

and i dont have my shield decoration

tragic!

[frail bloom]

Haven't really had much info

Besides melee and rune swap

And at a much later date

[harsh egret]

tbf thats a pretty big one

[frail bloom]

Ye but it comes much later

[harsh egret]

also it was literally first stream after quakecon no?

oh u mean like that

[frail bloom]

Might as well not think abt it

I want to see or hear abt smt else

[harsh egret]

let them cook on ng+ and ripatorium updates man

they already said they might do some additional stuff for the ripatorium soon

[frail bloom]

I'm not saying release them soon

But like confirm smt so we have something to talk abt

[silent surge]

RIP mighty doom
we never got the dark ages mini slayer

[harsh egret]

we have a pretty big amount already lol

[silent surge]

id be curious of a master campaign. where you still have to upgrade along the way but its harder

[frail bloom]

They're old news

[harsh egret]

yeah ngl i did play it for a decent bit

[frail bloom]

No one is really talking abt the dlc concept art anymore

Not many go here to ask for a riptorium preset which baffles me

[harsh egret]

bro this isnt a live service game, we have the main big things that we know they are working on, what else do u want lol

balancing stuff is pretty much over

[frail bloom]

Smt to talk abt

[harsh egret]

like?

[frail bloom]

"Hey we're working on a ng+"

[harsh egret]

eeh we kinda know that

why would they just reveal that

[frail bloom]

We're like one of 3 who actually believe it's happening

[harsh egret]

if u didnt know about the dev menu, u would just wait for master levels

and ng+ is probably that.

[frail bloom]

A lot of ppl dismiss the dev menu

I also want like a dlc concept thing to see

Anything

It can be as subtle as it wants

[harsh egret]

they probably want to have a surprise reveal of ng+ while ppl think its just normal master levels

[harsh egret]

yh but thats smth to talk about for like a few days

like literally anything else revealed in the streams

[frail bloom]

But they don't reveal much at all

[harsh egret]

i think u might just need some patience

[hard thistle]

what will be available in ng+ that you can't get in chapter select?

[frail bloom]

Ripatorium was kinda unexpected

[frail bloom]

It's like a master level campaign

[frank turtle]

what's new game plus

[harsh egret]

chapter select isnt ng+ lol
ng+ would be master level campaign most likely

[silent surge]

wonder if it’s a full master level campaign starting maxed out or one for upgrades

when i interviewed hugo a few years ago i did bring up the master campaign idea / NG+

[harsh egret]

like a restart of the campaign with different encounters, maybe mechanics in some games, etc

[frank turtle]

that'd be so peak

[hard thistle]

Oh. Yeah, then that changes things. Typically ng+ in other games is just a way to replay chapters with your fully upgraded arsenal.

[frank turtle]

oh so like borderlands

[harsh egret]

and he liked the idea?

[frank turtle]

I see now

[silent surge]

more like if eternal could have it but the answer was never truly given. which i get.

there were unfinished MLs

[harsh egret]

depends on the game. i hate games that do ng+ and its just not much changed

[silent surge]

we have mission select for that

eternals later master levels definitely changed stuff up

[harsh egret]

yh i think the roads leading towards a master level campaign now then

especially since they didnt release ANY yet

[frank turtle]

I like when they'd add lasers n shit to master levels in eternal lol

[harsh egret]

eternal had 2 on launch iirc

[frail bloom]

They were kinda basic

[hard thistle]

Yeah, that woudd be mega epic. i wish they'd just release a couple chapters over time though like doom eternal. cuz if ng+ is really master levels, then they'd have to get all the chapters done

[silent surge]

we had khalim teased as a file on twitter. for some reason

[harsh egret]

and abyssal forest once before that!

[silent surge]

cultist base rip n tear pack yea

[hard thistle]

Ghostrunner Hardcore mode is the perfect example of master levels/ng+ done right

[solid nacelle]

Yeah but those were before the devs knew how cracked players could be, its better that they're waiting for dark ages mls

[frail bloom]

I would at least like some confirmation

[harsh egret]

yeah just saying that if we got none yet here, i think they are cooking a big master level campaign as a major update

[frail bloom]

Instead of justtt the dev menu

[uneven mortar]

Could have been a tone deaf way to tease the ripatorium level

[harsh egret]

samir its pretty confirmed imo lol

[solid nacelle]

That would be epic

[frail bloom]

Oh my god

[hard thistle]

now that's just painful lol

[frail bloom]

I agree but how many vids do you see going over the dev menu??

[harsh egret]

no cuz we got a tease like that for abyssal forest too

[frail bloom]

Answer is zero

[harsh egret]

so i dont think so

[harsh egret]

idk, does it matter

do u just want everyone to know the surprise? maybe its better if not!

[frail bloom]

Why does it matter if only 3 ppl know

[uneven mortar]

Is the SSG fixed yet? I've literally started and finished DK Bananza in the time it's taken

[warm ibex]

please, hato... we need more doomtubers...

[harsh egret]

[frail bloom]

How was it

[harsh egret]

nop

[real crater]

i still cant tell if the best part of this game is the gameplay or sitting on the main menu and listening to when the shadows first lengthened

[frail bloom]

Prob both

[uneven mortar]

Amazing, 11/10. Takes Odyssey's 10/10 and irons out all the nitpicks, plus you can smash everything and solve problems creatively

[harsh egret]

u dont rip and tear in the main menu

[frail bloom]

Awesome

[real crater]

i wish you could play it in the ripatorium

[frail bloom]

How many levels do they have left

In the stream vids

[harsh egret]

like 7 i think?

[frank turtle]

yeah 7

[uneven mortar]

I still cannot believe they unfixed the SSG because people were quickswapping. Talk about throwing the baby out with the bathwater

[frail bloom]

Alr cuz hugo said as we get closer to ahzraks demise or whatever cryptic ahhh stuff he says, we'll get to see some more dlc tidbits

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-yoda-patience-sw3-gif-21070142

[silent surge]

but cappy

[frail bloom]

Nuh uh no quickswapping in this household

You can go back to unc eternal then!!!

If you think he's soooo fun

[uneven mortar]

Bananza was so good it made me forget Cappy existed until I saw your message

[frail bloom]

7 chances to see anything new

7×2 hrs streams

14 hrs ugghhhhh

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-yoda-patience-gif-21069694

[uneven mortar]

Do we have any ETA or any word at all on the SSG??

[harsh egret]

no

its obviously a priority and im sure theres good reason as to why it takes so long.

dont question the id wizards

[uneven mortar]

I mean I'm sure you're right

It's just it was already sort of fixed from my perspective at least

I got halfway through the game and they unfixed it

[harsh egret]

well they clearly want to fix it WITHOUT that other bug so

it is what it is

[sudden stump]

Hugo made it pretty clear they would fix any quickswap bugs that were brain dead. Wish they could have just kept it until it's properly fixed but whatever

[real crater]

anyone noticed the atlan perfect dodge window setting in the city of ryuul ripatorium map

[remote mural]

What's the cycler's mastery ability? I maxed out the cycler and now I'm doing it's mastery!

[real crater]

are we getting atlan gameplay in city of ryuul

[unreal terrace]

Masteries only give you a gold skin for each gun

[hasty stone]

so no patch notes im guessing?

[remote mural]

Oh so not like the other modern doom games? That's fine! My first gold skin!

[frail bloom]

Prob an oversight

Atlan gameplay is just not deep enough

[harsh egret]

if they are cooking extra titan enemies to fight for ng+...

would be sick

[green estuary]

Cyclops titans are unironically really annoying

[real crater]

is ng+ officially coming

[harsh egret]

not "officially" no

but its kinda obvious atp

it might release as a master level campaign

and ng+ was just the dev menu name for it

[hard thistle]

what was in the patch update today?

[harsh egret]

we dont know

[frail bloom]

I don't have high hopes for that

Most likely keep them as is or remove them entirely to streamline it

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/joey-friends-shrug-maybe-i-dont-know-gif-19596870

[solemn mauve]

615 MB update? Ok what the hell is this patch?

Downloading rn btw

[harsh egret]

oh?

no patch yet for me

[hasty stone]

🤓

[solemn mauve]

FYI, the patch didn't fix the SSG bug

https://tenor.com/view/unimpressed-not-impressed-amused-gif-13997644

[frail bloom]

Laaaaammmeee

No one knows what it is yet huh

[hard thistle]

hope they remove it or make it skippable. sometimes i just wanna fight azrak, and have to go throough the annoying tital level in final battle

[frail bloom]

Ye I don't see them making new ai

Honestly they might just remove it

Or get rid of the segment

For dragon levels it's a bit different

[hard thistle]

i don't mind the dragon levels. they're pretty speedy. and you get off the dragon to fight

the atlan just kills all the fun

[solemn mauve]

Thats the one thing this game genuinely needs, a simple Azhrak boss fight that isn't tied to the Cthulu one.

[frail bloom]

I personally find it a fun pace breaker but you don't need those in a master level

It's supposed to be unrelenting

(Most of the time)

[hard thistle]

true

[frail bloom]

And, it's less to work on

You can entirely rid the third level

Cut Hellbreaker in half

[solemn mauve]

I would even say this for the final mission too, I don't want to go through all of the demons just to fight Azhrak and the Witch.

[frail bloom]

And have only the ahzrak bossfight

[frail bloom]

But it has some of the best arenas

The bossfights are gonna be the hardest to remix honestly

They're all flat and circular

[solemn mauve]

I don't disagree on that, my point is we need to have direct, straight to the point boss fights

[frail bloom]

I mean that would be more a qol feature than anything

[solemn mauve]

Yeah exactly

[frail bloom]

But just think back to 2016

I have to go through two parts of lazarus labs just to fight the cyberdemon

It's painful

Ly annoying

[barren shell]

After a while it gets easy to clear the two sections

But still let us fight him right then and there

[frail bloom]

Sure but it feels like a slog when your goal is to fight the boss only

[barren shell]

True

[frail bloom]

And you know you have to replay the whole entire level instead

[barren shell]

Something cool would’ve been a section where you can select boss battles sorta like rune trial and classic map sections

[frail bloom]

At the very least they have those champion bosses in the ripatorium so you can somewhat fight bosses whenever you want, just not the big one's

[frail bloom]

I'd like an official horde mode mini campaign where it cycles through different levels, and gets increasingly difficult over time and has you fight bosses at certain intervals

[barren shell]

Oh yeah that would be sick

[frail bloom]

Maybe the vagary champion at the third level, Agaddon at 6th, Komodo at 9th, and then you go to the official bosses

[barren shell]

Or custom bosses 🤷‍♂️

[frail bloom]

Hmm

Like reskins?

Imagine if they had green armor

Or purple armor

Or blue armor

Anything that's not gold to differentiate them

Idk abt attacks

Basically it sounds like Eternal's, except there's no gimmicky platform sections and you cycle through many more arenas

I'd like different waves to transport you to different arenas

Hugo better play my preset thursday

[green estuary]

Bruh Lazarus labs is peak tfym

[frail bloom]

On it's own but I'm talking just abt wanting to fight the boss only

Which goes for any game honestly

[grim cloud]

mortor and flame manc do need their own skins, i didnt even know there were two types

[frail bloom]

Ye mortar should be greenish. The flame manc is the normal manc

[grim cloud]

and enforcers for ripatorium would be nice, but ... then you have to customize their minions too ... might not be possible

[frail bloom]

Oh ye true

There aren't any

But nooooo Hugo is gonna go on reddit

Missing out on these suggestions

[green estuary]

More headache than it’s worth tbh

[grim cloud]

he use to post here, but not so much anymore

[frail bloom]

Shame

Big shame

He's missing out

[barren shell]

No like actual different bosses with different moves and stuff

[grim cloud]

im sure he reads most of the stuff here

[frail bloom]

I would like that but that sounds more like a dlc thing

I would love a mode with random unique bosses but that's asking too much in this day and age

[grim cloud]

ripatorium is very new, im sure they will add DLC monsters and variants if they have time. prob not new AI

[green estuary]

Asking too much in any age lmao

[frail bloom]

Idk I never see him online

[frail bloom]

Ye

Horde mode bosses sound cool but I'm not the one with the budget

[grim cloud]

what are horde mode bosses?

[frail bloom]

Is it possible to make it look like you're offline when you're not?

[frail bloom]

We were talking abt having unique bosses with their own unique base designs and behavior for an official horde mode campaign

Smt you can't find in campaign or dlc

(Which is obv too much cuz it sounds like a dlc thing)

Dlc is mini horde mode honestly

[slow zodiac]

imagine if they added azhrak as a boss in some random fight lmao

[frail bloom]

Kaiser campaign type stuff

[grim cloud]

well maybe, its easy to change skins and monster varaibles (like hp, damage, projectiles)

[frail bloom]

No not reskins

Actual unique models

That are clearly distinguished

Not possible really, or not prioritized is the word

[grim cloud]

I could see like "legendary" level skins? Like n battlemode?

those are models, but require extra work for the gore kits

[frail bloom]

It's just ideas that won't happen

[harsh egret]

they would need to make like 3 or 4 versions of those skins or smth

[frail bloom]

Would be cool is all I can say

[harsh egret]

for like the zombie slayer version, bloody version, etc

[grim cloud]

I mean, they could add in Doom Eternal monsters maybe ... such as the Eternal Whiplash for fun

but geting it to behave with the new slayer interations are the hard part

[frail bloom]

Lol let's stuff a tyrant and see what happens

[grim cloud]

and beyond my modding abilities

[frail bloom]

Wait I can't parry it???

NOOOOOOOO

[slow zodiac]

I wish all the demons looked differently in cosmic realm and in other areas but it's really too much to ask

[frail bloom]

I kinda agree with you

[slow zodiac]

having the classic cacodemon variant and the cosmic one would be really cool

[grim cloud]

well the idstudio devs told me it is very possible to add eternal monsters, but 2016 uses a completely different scaling system that would break and require a lot of work

[frail bloom]

I would've loved cosmic zombies, soldiers, hell knights

[frail bloom]

Uh when

[slow zodiac]

I loved how eternal had different zombies on different levels

[grim cloud]

i asked about it during the meet and greet

[frail bloom]

Ye I really liked the variety for the same ai

[grim cloud]

because .. as you said, i am crazy nuts about demons

[harsh egret]

i mean hell, u got one in ur pfp

[frail bloom]

Ah, but they wouldn't really do that

They did it already technically

[harsh egret]

why would they

[frail bloom]

The tyrant is now the cyberdemon

[harsh egret]

maybe possible when mod support comes if that comes

[frail bloom]

You can parry him

Same with the whiplash

You can parry it now