the-dark-ages

[shadow flame]

but yeah SSG and Shield to the max and that's how I play the whole game up until this point

[frail bloom]

Changing guns takes a short amt of time now, and you can block while switching

Is your game even updated

[shadow flame]

off course it is I bought it post update 2

[frail bloom]

Ye you can switch no problem, every gun is useful

[shadow flame]

but I find it that after I do an attack with the Chainshot it takes like 8 button presses for it to switch back to my ssg

[frail bloom]

Ye no

It takes little to nothing

Literally no effort

And I play on console

[sudden stump]

Usually you want to use the chainshot when its upgraded and you can abuse the insta charge on parries. Not worth it I find otherwise.

[shadow flame]

I do exactly that

[sudden stump]

Like with parry duels it's amazing but you are really left open in other situations

[shadow flame]

But with the second upgrade of enhanced armor penetration it's literally the meta imo

this just erases the armor with two shots

[frail bloom]

You can erase armor in several ways anyway

Ssg is not one of them anymore lmao

[shadow flame]

I would have to disagree on that... I have no idea in what way can the Shredder be useful
unless I don't know something yet but the gun just seems like a way worse impaler with more range. But you're gonna take fights close anyway so why bother

[frail bloom]

You have no idea cuz you're a new player

A lot of players, including myself, find the shredder very useful and a very good weapon to stick with in the campaign

It's pincushion and richochet is crazy

It's more a you problem

[sudden stump]

You have to really experiment with different playstyles to see the full scope with the weapons. Shredder is something lots of people sleep on until later

[frail bloom]

You have no idea how many ppl dismissed the shredder early on

For them to find out how awesome it is

[shadow flame]

its a problem? the game just doesnt really give me any incentive to use this gun yet lol

[shadow flame]

ok im gonna trust you

[frail bloom]

Because you don't have to

Weapons are now a type of playstyle

My playstyle is combat shotgun and the rocket launcher

[wanton nimbus]

realistically a weapon can be entirely useless if you just dont like using it

[frail bloom]

Csg for restacking and shield throw spam and then rocket launcher for its parry rocket

[wanton nimbus]

shredder is good, but i never found myself using it over any other option. for example the ricochet it can do, cool, but i can also just damage multiple enemies buy shooting a rocket, or using the skullcrusher

[frail bloom]

And guess what

[lunar spire]

No, you just don't like using it. Disliking something doesn't make it useless.

[frail bloom]

Ppl also think the skullcrusher is useless

[wanton nimbus]

however if you like using the shredder over the rocket, thats great and now its useful

yea that makes sense, to those people it is useless

[frail bloom]

Notice how ppl list different weapons when they say they beat the campaign with 2 guns

[lunar spire]

Yeah

[frail bloom]

It's always different guns

[lunar spire]

My first run through I hated the accelerator. Now it's my favorite weapon

[wanton nimbus]

it is useless to me, i dont find a use for it, im not saying it doesnt have one, im just saying individually it is useless

[frail bloom]

Exactly that thing shreds

They are all so useful it depends on the person

[shadow flame]

I wouldn't call these guns useless if you can clearly use them for something. I still take out the pulvelizer sometimes even though I have shield throw (for fodder weaklings)

[rose oasis]

Where can we post our Doom The Dark Ages Riptorium stats?

[sudden stump]

There is a lot of variation if you just pick a different gun at each run, main it and invest your upgrades to compliment it

[lunar spire]

Yes, I'm just making sure we're being accurate if we're trying to talk about something as objective as a weapon being "useless"

[wanton nimbus]

accelerator is good, i only really like the lil explosion it does, i prefer big meaty hits instead of like lighter faster hits

[shadow flame]

I guess this is the most open ended doom game when it comes to gun usage

[frail bloom]

Pulverizer is especially good for wide targets

[frail bloom]

Ye and you can m8x that with your melee and shield runes

[shadow flame]

so is the SSG

[frail bloom]

But it's not as fast

A pulverizer can take out a vagary much quicker

[lunar spire]

I use it to move fast and get health back if there's a ton of fodder

[wanton nimbus]

pulverizer can take out pretty much anything as quickly as possible tbh

[lunar spire]

Free haste

[frail bloom]

Btw they're implementing melee and rune swapping too

[wanton nimbus]

being able to swap melee weapons on the fly would be neat

[lunar spire]

I disagree. The impaler will dunk in terms of single target damage even post nerf

Pulverizer is great don't get me wrong

[shadow flame]

Guess this game is more interesting than I thought
everyone has a different playstyle
that's not something you usually see in Doom games or modern doom games
everybody usually has a similiar playstyle with some small differences. Here they can vary much much more

[lunar spire]

But IMHO most things are very balanced and yet good at their specific job

[frail bloom]

It's up to you, dark ages is more a macro game than micro like eternal

Choose your playstyle, lets see how you fend off against the enemies

The enemies are very important in this game

[sudden stump]

Post nerf doesn't mean a lot when it's objectively better than before if you head shot

[frail bloom]

If you can fight 3 cosmic barons you're a good player now

[shadow flame]

ive heard there was a nerf. How broken were things before it?

[lunar spire]

Less opportunities for empowerment

[sudden stump]

Headshot damage is so crazy though you don't need to rely on empowerments anymore 😂

[lunar spire]

I'm well aware, but I'm really not interested in having a numbers argument

[wanton nimbus]

TDA is interesting to me because it feels like,, idk how to explain it, a story game

like eternal, especially UN you kinda HAD to learn how to quick swap and know what weapons are best in what circumstances, whereas TDA is like, you can quite literally just use one or 2 weapons and call it good, you dont need to quick swap or learn to much other than parry, that usually has very react-able tells. you are just kinda playing a regular, story game, instead of this super intense mechanically challenging game

it really is personal, there is no right way to play, you just kinda do what you like and go through, whereas eternal there kinda WAS a right way to play

[frail bloom]

Ye it has a lower entry but for NOW, a lower skill ceiling

But it gets closer each day

[wanton nimbus]

yea thats a good way to put it, a skill ceiling

[frail bloom]

Melee and rune swapping can bring it up a few notches

[wanton nimbus]

thank u

[lunar spire]

This is why I like it so much more

[wanton nimbus]

ya im excited to see what that brings, knowing a baron is about to show up would be a good time to swap to the dreadmace to pretty much make it a non issue

armored enemies, flail

[wanton nimbus]

its one of the reasons why i didnt really like it, but its growing on me now i understand

[frail bloom]

I play so differently now than I have the second playthrough

[lunar spire]

I don't feel like I have to learn a ton of tech in order to succeed in high difficulty, I just have to play smart

[wanton nimbus]

i didnt like it at first as i really went into it wanting to learn a mechanically challenging game, and not really be so hands off so i kinda struggled

[frail bloom]

And it really depends on the enemies

That's where you can really show off your skill

How many big bads can you fight

In what capacity

What arena

How much waves

[lunar spire]

On that note I recently discovered where the grenade launcher really excels

[frail bloom]

Lmao ye

Beat the bfc arena like that no cheesing

[sleek ermine]

Devs add all the bosses (not champions because they’re already there) to Ripatorium

[frail bloom]

No idea how that would work

[sudden stump]

like all two of them

[lunar spire]

I did more ripatorium stuff with a ton of super heavies and the grenade launcher helped out a ton

[sleek ermine]

Oh yeah not like The Old One

[frail bloom]

The boomer one

The geezer one

The fossil one

[lunar spire]

The unc

[sleek ermine]

I count Enhanced Ahzrak’s different forms as different enemies

[frail bloom]

Alr I'm done

What abt mr Kreeeed

[sleek ermine]

So basically that’s 3 or 4

[frail bloom]

And the witch

[sleek ermine]

4 or 5

[sleek ermine]

5 or 6

[frail bloom]

Lmao

[lunar spire]

I love when people are disingenuous

It's great

[frail bloom]

I mean they were joking

Right Jan ban ban

[sleek ermine]

If we count all the boss fights (with my logic there are 3 Enhanced Ahzrak fights, though not really) there are 10

I’m dumb aren’t I

[frail bloom]

No no

[lunar spire]

Oh no I'm not talking about jan

[frail bloom]

Who

[lunar spire]

Here

Lol

[sleek ermine]

Yeah it seems like a certain someone didn’t play the game

[frail bloom]

Unbreakable shmakeable was just kidding

Right unc-breakable

[lunar spire]

Yeah

Wait it's title card guys

In the flesh

[sudden stump]

Well I mean there are two bosses if you don't count the old one, Asscrack has different phases which are unique enough I guess

[frail bloom]

Nuh uhhhhh

You got Kreed, Ahzrak and the witch

And ahzrak has different forms

[sleek ermine]

You forgot Kreed
And champions but I doubt you count them

[sudden stump]

Oh yeah I forgot about the reskinned acolyte, she just died too quickly lol

[green estuary]

“If you don’t count two of the bosses, there are only two bosses”

[frail bloom]

Since they count leaders and champions as different, ahzrak's forms would count differently

[sudden stump]

Well in the context of adding them to the ripitorium the old one might be challenging

[frail bloom]

Hey I'm just glad that the weapons discussion we hadeariler didn't result in an argument

[sleek ermine]

I count Enhanced Ahzrak phase 1 and 2 (or whatever it is) as different bosses

[lunar spire]

Why are we using the ripatorium to determine what defined a boss

[upbeat junco]

taking the shredder with me into afterlife

well, rocket launcher too but the rocket launcher has a special place

[frail bloom]

No I'm just saying if the leaders and champions are distinguished I can see Ahzraks different forms as distinguished

[green estuary]

TDA rocket launcher is easily in the top 5 coolest guns in video games

[lunar spire]

Here again

The SSG is also up there for me

[frail bloom]

Parry rocket is sooooo cool

[lunar spire]

Pre nerf

[frail bloom]

They'll buff it soon

[green estuary]

The thunk is just so satisfying

[frail bloom]

Maybe next week?

[lunar spire]

I hope so

[frail bloom]

Usually when we have a discussion abt weapons in dark ages it boils down to "I can't quickswitch only 2 are worth it"

[upbeat junco]

the fact that you heal yourself with splash damage

actual 3 billion iq idea

[frail bloom]

Glad to see some actually understand the different uses for each weapons

[lunar spire]

Yeah it grinds my brain cells hearing those arguments

[frail bloom]

Ye I love doing that aswell it comes handy in ripatorium fights

I would be soooo happy if they added a classic archvile

I can complete my plutonia set

For now I used an acolyte leader

They are demanding but an archie can do better

[sudden stump]

But yeah either way I would love to see this, Don't see why not unless there are technical reasons

[shadow flame]

man this game is long
next level is chapter 10 of 22?

[sudden stump]

It goes by a lot faster on repeats

Lots of that time on the first playthrough is really just figuring out how to reach the secrets lol

[frail bloom]

Ye I recommend not looking for 3 gold across the map, not worth it

[sudden stump]

would be nice to have fast travel though so I don't have to repeat the whole level if I do want that 3 gold

[frail bloom]

They can't implement it sadly

Not possible with this engine

[harsh egret]

just dont miss the 3 gold

[frail bloom]

With the way maps load

[frank turtle]

siege 2 is so broken my shield and weapon disappeared somehow

I could see them in 3rd person

[solemn mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/how-paapabutterfly-gif-22583765

How are you discovering bugs, I've yet to find one

[frank turtle]

idek man

[shadow flame]

oh thats why its not in the game?

i was losing my mind over it the other day... siege part 1 took me nearly 3 hours because of the running back and forth

I have the game sped up and auto sprint on I cannot imagine how slow this must be for people who dont use auto sprint and have the game slower

[solar cairn]

Me too, so I don’t play below 150

[hearty edge]

naw man ssg fell off

[hearty edge]

the shredder is good man

the exploded thingies do a lot of damage

[shadow flame]

why is everyone saying it fell off i dont get it im not in on it
was it nerfed or smth?

[hearty edge]

yea lol i remember the 2nd level took me like 2 hours on my first playtrough and now it took me 40 minutes r smth

[hearty edge]

yea it was nerfed in update 2

and also i generally dont use it a lot now bc it has a bug that doesnt let you parry while reloading

[sudden stump]

I mean it's still good but if you play before the patches you would know how much more devastating the SSG was

[frank turtle]

it's just dangerous to use now

[hearty edge]

yea

[frank turtle]

with the shield bug

[shadow flame]

yeah now that I think about it... on the tutorial showcase videos enemies die much quicker to it than in gameplay

[frank turtle]

lmao yeah especially the mancubus

[shadow flame]

uhhhhhhh why was it nerfed??????

[sudden stump]

2 stronk

[shadow flame]

dude I use this gun especially for the mancubus

I'm still a new player and I suck I die a lot but my strategy for most enemies is lock them with shield throw and spam ssg

which even with the upgrade to shoot more pellets takes three shots for a mancubi

[frank turtle]

they want the ssg to be less of a crutch weapon

[shadow flame]

why do that post release lol

[frank turtle]

even though impaler is just as good and was better than it

[hearty edge]

i suppose people just used it like all the time and they wanted more variety

and also it 2 shotted like everything in the game

can i just say how laggy my game is now

i remember before update 2 i had like 50-60 fps in almost every level

[shadow flame]

again why change the design of the game post release bruh now the showcase videos are lying and misleading you

[hearty edge]

now i can mostly get like 40

granted i only have 4gb vram but still

[hearty edge]

and in fights it drops to like 25

[shadow flame]

im getting unstable 90 fps on my pc, honestly I thought I'd be getting like 7
which is a W I guess

[hearty edge]

havent died yet which is good

After this nightmare playthrough imma try pandemonium

[sudden stump]

because the stats and feedback did not line up with how they envisioned the game. They didn't have a lot of extra time to tune things before launch like they did in Eternal

[frail bloom]

Ye dark ages is like those indie fighting games

They gotta rebalance stuff, but we're almost done with the rebalancing

Just some ssg fixes, melee and rune swap additions and some encounters mellowed out and the game is basically done with balancing

(I would like omni sprint but Hugo firmly said no)

((Why Hugo))

(((Whyyyyyyy)))

[sudden stump]

Max projectile speed feels so fun with omni sprint

Like the demons still lead their shots properly so it's not like it's totally unbalanced

[green estuary]

Yeah omni sprint is kinda the only way max projectile speed can actually be balanced

[solemn mauve]

Omni sprint is something you can use only on PC

[green estuary]

Without it, you’re just asking for pain

[green estuary]

Yes
But max projectile speed without it is basically just a meme anyways

[solemn mauve]

Of course

[harsh egret]

keep in mind the melee and rune swap isnt coming anytime soon, closer to dlc

[green estuary]

Every time I see someone playing max projectile speed I invariably just see a bunch of complaints about how the game is being unfair
As if projectiles that can track you faster than you can move even sounded fair to start with

[frail bloom]

How do you know

Did Hugo say that

[harsh egret]

Yes

"will come in a farther patch, closer to dlc"

[frail bloom]

Oh crap

[harsh egret]

Did u spread misinformation

[frail bloom]

I never said it was soon

[harsh egret]

Ok good xD

[frail bloom]

In public

[harsh egret]

Lmfao

[frail bloom]

I just thought it was personally

Damn

Big damn

[harsh egret]

Im kinda surprised nobody made a comparason vid for all the sliders, maybe showing stuff like diff projectiles on each projectile speed slider in how long it takes to reach u from a certain distance and so on for all the other difficulty sliders

At least not that im aware of

[frail bloom]

I wonder why they won't do it soon

You want ppl used to the mechanic incase it ends up being used in dlc

Especially in the ng+

Feels kinda like a weird decision

[harsh egret]

Its optional and the game wont be built around hotswapping those things

[frail bloom]

Well ye but if it's a qol feature, why not just introduce it sooner

No one said it was a hotswap thing

Just convenience and the occasional skill flex from switching and parrying quickly

[harsh egret]

Maybe its not in their current plans on things to work on atm? Idk

[frail bloom]

That kaibz mod looking real fun each day that passes

[harsh egret]

They already got a bunch of stuff they're working on

[frail bloom]

But noo I'm a console peasant

[harsh egret]

I'm fine without it ngl

[frail bloom]

You're fine with anything Hato

[harsh egret]

No

[frail bloom]

The purpose of a qol feature is just to smooth things out

It seperates good from great

Good is put well together but rough, while great is refined, great and smooth

I just wanna know why so late

Bc it's not hard to implement at all so are they gonna do something extra with it?

[sudden stump]

Melee/rune swapping?

[frail bloom]

Ye

In the kaibz mod you can switch easily but it resets all your charges

[sudden stump]

Well it takes time to implement that properly as a dev, it's not just a dll file hacking the game like the mod

[frail bloom]

Ye but several months?

Seems a bit weird

[harsh egret]

They probably have a pretty set plan from now on until around dlc

[frail bloom]

I expect their last update to be a ripatorium thing

Like adding the dlc enemies and arenas

[harsh egret]

What about dlc ng+

[frail bloom]

Idk will they?

Who knows

[harsh egret]

Maybe maybe not

[frail bloom]

I expect the huge stuff to take a long time

But qol features taking several months feels weird

Like they're gonna implement it further

[harsh egret]

Samir it doesnt take several months to work on

It takes them several months until they CAN work on it most likely

[green estuary]

Melee and rune swapping probably just isn’t a priority rn

[frail bloom]

Really, so they have nobody to work on it

[harsh egret]

It seems to me they wanna add ng+ or master levels or whatever

And then work on other stuff alongside dlc

[frail bloom]

Someone hire one of those hackers

[green estuary]

Also kudos to them for actually saying they’ll implement it
Considering we’re still stuck with no ice bomb/frag hotkeys in eternal

[frail bloom]

Hugo now

[harsh egret]

Yeah im surprised they even WILL add it eventually

[frail bloom]

They better share smt cool this thursday

[harsh egret]

Dlc concept art pls

Some small enemy or smth

Literally show me fodder concept art

[frail bloom]

I will take ANYTHING

Or if not dlc

Give me confirmation on something you're working on

AND NOT THE SAME THING 5 TIMES EACH STREAM

Cough cough slo mo slider cough

[harsh egret]

U already know he's gonna say "rune and melee swap in the works and it's feeling pretty good" for the remaining streams

[frail bloom]

Ye I know...

All this padding

[harsh egret]

(not in the works)

[green estuary]

He knows what he’s doing lmao

[harsh egret]

I would like to think that too

[frail bloom]

Is there any other major events in which they would release a bunch of stuff

[harsh egret]

Eh prob not

[frail bloom]

Cux I'm assuming a few hotfix updates this month and next month and then mostly big updates

[harsh egret]

I expect next big update in like october

[wooden dock]

I wonder how far along the dlc is

[frail bloom]

Rn we know they're working on Ripatorium stuff, dlc stuff and NG+stuff most likely

That's huge

[harsh egret]

Probably in a playable state if u ask me

[frail bloom]

They prob made like 2 new ai enemies

I HAVE to finish my archie animation

[harsh egret]

2?

For dlc?

[frail bloom]

No for now

Not in total

Like 2 finished rn

[harsh egret]

Ah, nah im pretty sure those things are done already lmao

[frail bloom]

An enemy takes like a month to create and implement

[wooden dock]

eternal dlc's had like 3 new enemies each honestly I cold see them doing even more given this games more varied encounter design

[frail bloom]

I expect at least 6 enemies

[harsh egret]

How would u know samir, are u an id dev?

Undercover id dev? Caught?

[frail bloom]

I heard it from zemini who is an enemy freak

So he prob knows what he's talking abt

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-doakes-staring-suspicious-memes-gif-9038143639402170425

Samir is an id dev but I can't prove it

[frail bloom]

Lemme ask him

@grim cloud did you say an enemy takes a month to make, and if you did, from where

[harsh egret]

Also im pretty sure they don't work on one enemy at a time each month lol

[frail bloom]

Well how do YOU know

[harsh egret]

Just makes zero sense to me with the somewhat small gamedev understanding that i do have

[frail bloom]

Man I can't find the gif I want

Damn

[wooden dock]

Yes the ENTIRE gamedev team (concept artists included) spends exactly one month only working on one enemy

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/i-know-more-than-you-i-know-you-smarter-smarty-pants-glaring-gif-15654642

[frail bloom]

Blaaaaaa

I didn't say entire

That's kinda my point

[harsh egret]

Then tf are the rest of the devs doin

[frail bloom]

They have a bunch of stuff to work on

Ripatorium and NG+

But you make sense

[harsh egret]

Ok ur proving my point rn

[wooden dock]

Level design takes the most time in development, it is likely being designed alongside the new enemies being introduced in them

[frail bloom]

They have to have time to test them out as well

[harsh egret]

Im talking about the devs that are in any shape or form responsable for the AI and combat design on this game.

[frail bloom]

I just think that 6 enemies in like 4 months is ehhhh

Maybe 1 or 2 more months and they're fully done with enemy ai

Cuz I expect these dlc enemies to really change how battles go

Like how they did in tag 1 and 2

[wooden dock]

Is there any kind of set release
Or is this a kind of "when it's done™" situation

[frail bloom]

The latter

We have no date, no frame of time

[harsh egret]

Internally we dont know, they for sure have some deadline they wanna be done by like any other game

[frail bloom]

You know when you know

[wooden dock]

The Id classic

[sudden stump]

They were smart this time and didn't give themselves a 1-year deadline like TAG

[frail bloom]

Ye that was buns

Lessons learned

[harsh egret]

We don't know internally what deadline they have

[sudden stump]

TAG had to be done in a year though because it was part of the year one pass

They just barely made that deadline with COVID

[wooden dock]

Wow that sucks lmao

[frail bloom]

Well we can tell they have more time cuz it sounds like they're making it very different from the base campaign

The stuff they have said so far makes it different from tag

[harsh egret]

Ofc

[frail bloom]

But ye without a deadline they will slack off or something

They were working hard on dlc like 1 month in after tda released

So clearly although the time given, they still heed to mini max

[wooden dock]

One year pass deadline feels a lot like an executive said "include the dlc in the one year pass!" Without thinking about what that entailed

[frail bloom]

Ew executives

Anywhoo

Gimme archvile

(Le samir classic)

It went from classic baron to archvile

I was so naive I thought they would have the classic baron alongside an archvile and pain elemental

Imagine my pain when I found out

[wooden dock]

Tda takes a lot of inspiration from 64 so it would be really funny if the archville was mother demon lol

[frail bloom]

Hato knows he can tell you

I was screaming abt it for months

Gimme this gimme that

Didn't get any of it

Life lesson here guy's

[harsh egret]

Samir i bet u can't wait until the day doom wont be about rebooting doom 1 and 2 enemies and gameplay ideas into a modern game anymore

[frail bloom]

Be happy with what you have

[wooden dock]

What psycho wishes for a pain elemental

[frail bloom]

Wut

[frail bloom]

Me

[harsh egret]

Just imagine

[wooden dock]

I'm honestly happier with cosmic barons the normal ones are kinda bland looking honestly

[harsh egret]

A doom game that doesnt take ideas from the og game

[frail bloom]

WHAAAAAT

[harsh egret]

How would u feel

[frail bloom]

The classic barons are the coolest

Goat demons? Hell yeah

[wooden dock]

Like they tried to add flair to them in eternal and it still didn't really hit honestly

[frank turtle]

I love the cosmic barons

[harsh egret]

I like both

[frail bloom]

I expected dark ages to the most since it's closer to the classic timeline, gameplay is inspired from classics, the classic imp and lost soul, that was my reasoning

[wooden dock]

I still think they are cool I just love how they took it this time

[frail bloom]

Bc they weren't the barons I wanted

[frank turtle]

that's why tda is so good

[frail bloom]

So I expected some more classic enemies

[harsh egret]

I feel like as much as its tryina be more inspired by the classics its also straying away from that

[brazen vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-slayer-doom-goku-meme-prowler-gif-4719372935125368569

Do not give us an archvile...

[frail bloom]

Ye I moved on from the classic baron

I still want an Archvile and Pain elemental

Unlike the cosmic baron there are no form of archvile or pain elemental

[brazen vortex]

Literally the two worst demons, WHAT ARE YOU A MASOCHIST

[frail bloom]

No

I just want demons that make you think differently more often

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/perfect-popcorn-michael-jackson-gif-15819088988750971271

[brazen vortex]

THEN WHY ON DAVOTHS GREEN EARTH DO YOU WANT THE TWO MOST ANNOYING DEMONS!?

[wooden dock]

I think having more classic demons in the dlc is kind of a given

[frail bloom]

Cuz I love to hate them

I want something that gives me fear

I am honestly not scared of like any demons in dark ages anymore

[harsh egret]

How is the pain elemental that annoying lol

[brazen vortex]

NO! NO NO NO, THE MARAUDER MADE YOU THINK, THE ARCHVILE JUDT SAYS "Fuck you, you dont get to fight till ya kill me otherwise you life is a living hell" AND PAIN ELEMENTALS ARE JUST BASTARDS WHO SHOOT THE WORST ENENMY IN THE ENTIRD FUCKING FRANCHISE!

[frail bloom]

Used to be komodo and cosmic baron but now they're something I expect to deal with

[wooden dock]

It's so innovative that dark ages makes up all the new annoying demons instead of just using old ones

[frail bloom]

Well that was in one game

[brazen vortex]

NO. IT. WASNT. HAVE YOU NOT PLAYED DOOM FUCKING 2 OR DOOM 64!?

[frail bloom]

They work differently in the classics

[brazen vortex]

THEY REALLY DONT, ESPECIALLY THE PAIN ELEMENTAL, THATS WHAT GOT ME SO BAD

[frail bloom]

In the classics, the pain elemental was annoying and a good pressure unit, the archvile was fear inducing

In eternal, the archie is kinda annoying and the pain elemental still retains it's pressure unit ststus

[wooden dock]

Classic doom: archvile respawns any enemy that leaves a corpse
Eternal: archvile spawns enemies (way longer spawn time than classics too)

[frail bloom]

I want an enemy that gives me fear each time it spawns

No matter how good I am

[brazen vortex]

Look, I dont mind archviles, theyre annoying sure, but they CAN be fun...but the pain elemental...well they live up to their name, they are a pain in the ass, they exist only to annoy you, they fire out stupid fucking lost souls, and they take too long to kill

[frail bloom]

Well maybe they take less in dark ages

[harsh egret]

In eternal they arent even that bad lol

[frail bloom]

They don't use the lost souls that much

[brazen vortex]

they won't. It's the two worst enemies in the franchise...they wont

[frail bloom]

So a pain elemental is a good way to go

[brazen vortex]

Clearly you've never let an archvile buff every super heavy demon in the game

[frail bloom]

Worst in balance? Nah they're loved and hated here

The classics stay on top🙏

[brazen vortex]

I can tell you right now. No one's favorite demon is the fucking pain elemental

GOD THIS KINDA SHIT GETS ME HEATED

[frail bloom]

He was mine for years but then it switched to the archie

[weary current]

are we talking about the dlc rn

[frail bloom]

Yes

[brazen vortex]

I'm going to play 2016 to cool tf off

[frail bloom]

Sorta

[harsh egret]

Bro actually malding

[weary current]

did they even announce anything yet, or is that for gamescom opening night live like what happened with tag

[frail bloom]

When is gamescom

[harsh egret]

Tuesday

[weary current]

august 19th, tuesday
yeah

[brazen vortex]

NO ONE LIKES THE FUCKING PAIN ELEMENTAL GOD DAMNIT!!

[frail bloom]

I don't expect anything

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-rage-bait-baited-rage-baited-angry-dog-gif-2047466162835898859

[frail bloom]

i do but okay

[brazen vortex]

You're lying to yourself

You know you are

[harsh egret]

Thought u were gonna play 2016

[frail bloom]

You can't tell me that dogs aren't smart c'mon

[brazen vortex]

No one that is sane likes the pain elemental

[brazen vortex]

I am

[harsh egret]

Then do so

[frail bloom]

Look at the way he looks smug

He knows

[harsh egret]

That's me rn

[frail bloom]

They're intelligent

[brazen vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doom-eternal-gif-26362427

Fuck archviles too

[frail bloom]

It depends on how they are used

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-yoinky-sploinky-gif-21109788

[brazen vortex]

You mean annoyingly?

[solid nacelle]

Yeah I hate the pain elemental. I still want him back though!

[brazen vortex]

I fucking dont

[frank turtle]

I love pain elementals

[frail bloom]

We need more pressure units that involve strategy and adaptation everytime they are on the board

[harsh egret]

Same

[frank turtle]

theyre cute

[brazen vortex]

Once more, youre lying to yourself

[frail bloom]

Dark ages has them but I want more

[green estuary]

An arena shooter is honestly better when you have some enemies that you reeeallly don’t want to see

[frail bloom]

The cream of the crop

[brazen vortex]

Okay in design? Yeah I love em, theyre so fucking goofy

[harsh egret]

Once more u got ratiod

[frank turtle]

I like how they throw their lost souls in eternal

[brazen vortex]

I just hate their mechanics

And hate how the devs in eternal and doom 2 used em

[green estuary]

Git gud

[solid nacelle]

They would fit in so well in dark ages combat loop

[brazen vortex]

In eternal they were almost underwhelming, when I first saw it I nearly had a heart attack, same went with the archvile, then I killed it in two snipe shots with the balista

In doom 2...they can just fuck right off

[harsh egret]

No

[frank turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/pain-elemental-my-beloved-doom-doom-eternal-doom-2-gif-7869538465700090281

[green estuary]

In doom 64 they’re even worse

[brazen vortex]

For God's sake even the demons dont like em, so much so they put em in a cage and gave us a free fucking bfg

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/olapoo-fat-brown-turn-really-jogging-on-his-balls-loves-tomato-salads-gif-19024604

[brazen vortex]

Again, I'll admit, I love their design, theyre so goofy looking. I just hate their mechanics

[wooden dock]

That one pain elemental in the cage is so funny even the demons can't stand them 😭

[brazen vortex]

EXACTLY MY POINT!

(Also it was two, not one)

(On uv anyways)

[frail bloom]

I'm making an archvile animation to

[harsh egret]

And pain elemental next

[frail bloom]

Ye sure

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-creepy-scream-gif-12314061

[frail bloom]

Just those two

[brazen vortex]

He's hitting a jig

[harsh egret]

Grumpy old man

[brazen vortex]

I'm not that old

[harsh egret]

No, "grumpy landlord" as Hugo likes to describe him

[brazen vortex]

Ooooh

Honestly yeah I can see it

[wooden dock]

I love the old man personality they gave to them in eternal

[brazen vortex]

"Get off mah fuckin lawn!"

yeets a flaming skull at you

[harsh egret]

I love that most enemies have a distinguishable personality

[wooden dock]

https://tenor.com/view/olapoo-fat-brown-turn-really-jogging-on-his-balls-loves-tomato-salads-gif-19024604

[harsh egret]

When me

[frail bloom]

The imp stalker does that too y'know

They do a funny jog

No one talks abt it

[brazen vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-gif-12466423

I honestly wouldn't mind the archvile in dark ages, but fuck the pain elemental dawg

[vagrant kayak]

is dark ages discounted on steam rn?

[brazen vortex]

No clue

[wheat sigil]

while the PE had a very distinct purpose in DE, i feel like they'd be even more obtrusive in TDA

similar to the possessed PE in eternal in scale of effect

[grim cloud]

last quakcon 2024, i asked how long it takes the average AI from concept to completion. They said about a month if the team was focused on just adding a demon. But many people touch it from artists to model creation ect. It is a group effort obviously.

Making variants however, much shorter. I can make a new skin myself in a afternoon without interuption. @harsh egret

it also depends on the mocap, so if the enemy can mimic human movement, its much easier, but a animal (like a snake for the whip lash) would take longer.

this year i asked about making a Shoggoth like enemy, because that would be very fucking hard to do right. They didn't know what that was

[green estuary]

I agree
Not because I have an inherent issue with pain elementals but I’d rather see a regular caco instead

[sudden stump]

The concept art with a cacodemon wearing armor looked so cool, I hope they show up in the DLC

[drowsy dock]

Hi I need some help. In chapter 20 when the Slayer arrives at the Kreed Maykr's ship, I cant pass 1 room after the door of the Kreed's room, the room is locked, and i've been watching gameplays of other players and that room should be unlocked, I got the clip and screenshot of the room locked, so im stuck at that point and I can't finish the chapter

[paper cosmos]

that sucks

[drowsy dock]

I already tried to restart the checkpoint and it didnt work, then I tried to restart the chapter and the rooms still locked, I uninstalled the game and installed again and that didnt work neither

[paper cosmos]

That is really bullshit

would have destroyed my keyboard if that would have happend to me

[drowsy dock]

Any ideas?

[paper cosmos]

i mean

idk

i am not good with fixing lag .....

but i try my best to think

maybe

[frank turtle]

hi doom chat

[paper cosmos]

You could try to play it on a diffrent acount ig

[frank turtle]

Yup a leader or armored caco would be cool

[harsh egret]

shoot it with plasma gun

[sudden stump]

ultimate skill check

[harsh egret]

[verbal void]

Ranking easiest to hardest TDA bosses(in my opinion/all of them were easy)
7.old one
6.enhanced ahzrak
5.A&W
4.kreed maykr
3:komodo champion
2.aggadon champion
1.vagary champion

[drowsy dock]

Thank you so much!!!

[delicate grotto]

Damn fr? Enhanced Azhrak is the hardest out of them all in my experience. Based on a first time playthrough at least.
The champion encounters are a little challenging with the added maintains, but you’re given plenty of space and time to regain resources.

[wooden dock]

i like how you can melee during bfc like thats ever useful

[verbal void]

Vagary was the only one i died on

But its just cause of my lack of weapons and shield HP

[harsh egret]

what difficulty

[crisp hare]

I died multiple times on Azhrak. I had put the parry window at the lowest

On nightmare difficulty I’d give Azhrak and Witch as the most difficult for me

[frank turtle]

vagary is a killer on ultra nightmare

alot of runs can end there

[plush veldt]

Like

[sudden stump]

It's basically an end-game enemy plopped in a level where you have no end game equipment. If you over extend even a little you're just dead

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-browhat-bro-what-what-dude-gif-7883673019789399675

[random sand]

Just stay away from it and blast the shit outta it and parry the balls it shoots at ya

Only problem i have with Vagary is the acid that slows you down and when another big demon is in the arena as well so i gotta pick who i wanna prioritise

[verbal void]

My problem is the lack of better weapons/shield HP

[sudden stump]

Skullcrusher seems to work good against them. Don't have to aim, can just hold down fire while you parry and most of the pellets land

[verbal void]

Chainshot and dreadmace combo still gonna work on them

[random sand]

When you face the gold one early on? Fair. Didn't have much problem with that one since from a distance, not much that boi can do

[verbal void]

Im talking about the first one you meet where you js have combat and shredder

[green estuary]

The huge issue is that right before the vagary champion you have to deal with 2 chain gunners
And there aren’t enough resources ahead of the vagary fight to adequately restack

[sudden stump]

That's after you get the skull crusher

[verbal void]

Oh wait it was? I haven’t had the time to catch up on TDA after beating it

[sudden stump]

Vagary champ right? It's the last encounter of sentinel barracks

[verbal void]

Yeah same chapter

But what if you don’t have the ammo

[random sand]

I'd say there's enough both before and in the fight. You got a shield. Use it😭

[verbal void]

The problem is how fragile my shield HP is

[green estuary]

I never thought of that, thank you
Because on 300% damage my shield definitely doesn’t get broken after half a second of two chaingunners hosing me

[random sand]

On the higher difficulties definitely. Against chaingunners tho. It stands up decently well

[verbal void]

Oh and also i played on U.V currently starting a nightmare run

[random sand]

Well if you're gonna crank it up like that then you can't really blame the game😭

[verbal void]

Is there a gold skin yet for U.N TDA

[wheat sigil]

not really cranking it up though, only 20% more than normal nightmare

[green estuary]

Nightmare default is 250

[random sand]

Yes. I have it. One for doom slayer, the mech and Serrat

[verbal void]

That nightmare slayer skin is just🔥

[random sand]

Wasn't that for me. Was 100 for me. I didn't change anything

Odd

[green estuary]

That’s damage to slayer, not damage to demons

[paper cosmos]

agreed

[random sand]

Both sat at 100

[green estuary]

Yeah then you weren’t playing nightmare lmao
Sorry

[wheat sigil]

100% is rhe damage to demons, and 250% is rhe regular damage to slayer

[verbal void]

Dmg to slayer is 250 on nightmare?

[wheat sigil]

those are the regular nightmare settings

[green estuary]

Yes

[wheat sigil]

yes

[verbal void]

Crazy

[wheat sigil]

what is it on UV?

[random sand]

I was. I have my pandemonium save too. Allthough altered because i made some slight changes to it

[green estuary]

Should be 200

[verbal void]

Anyways on the first serrat level who else hated that leader pinky

[green estuary]

Ok then damage to slayer was not 100
Maybe that was game speed

[wheat sigil]

damn that's not a ton of difference

[random sand]

Wasn't that bad for me. Just had to watch the big imps and the bite attack

[verbal void]

Nightmare imp was pain

[green estuary]

I could be wrong lmao
I’m going off of memory of a YouTuber playing it

Never done it myself

[verbal void]

Whats the YouTuber name

[wheat sigil]

under the mayo, the best doom player

[sudden stump]

He's a lot easier if you grab the Super Shotgun first, otherwise I just skulllcrush him at point blank

[random sand]

The big imps? They're not that bad. Die in like one hit from the super shotgun and the impaler lmao

[verbal void]

Good idea but No. I love torturing them by using the chainshot and shield sawing them

Chainshot carried my run tbh

[random sand]

That's fair. Not a big fan of how they changed the super shotgun so been running the combat shotgun and impaler more recently

[green estuary]

It might have been max dood
Although I believe he played on nightmare but I might’ve seen the uv settings there
Can’t remember exactly

[verbal void]

Literally fills up a quarter/half of the kreed maykrs stun bar

[green estuary]

I mean
Kreed isn’t that hard even after the buffs

[verbal void]

Kreed was never hard

[green estuary]

That’s what I said

[random sand]

I've yet to see how he's changed. I accidentally deleted my main save file with everything on it so now i gotta do it again😭

[verbal void]

You said kreed isn’t hard i said kreed was never hard(i just realized what you mean mb)

[uneven mortar]

SSG block fixed yet?

[random sand]

No

[uneven mortar]

Wtf...

[random sand]

Think it's on purpose. Think it said something about it in the patch notes

[wheat sigil]

ehen i decided i wasn't gonna play until they fixed it i thought it would take like 2 or 3 days lol

[uneven mortar]

Me too, then they fixed it and i got halfway through the game then they UNFIXED it so i stopped

[random sand]

Complain to 'em (tastefully ofc). Usually work when devs make bad descisions

[wheat sigil]

they're going to fix it again, just without the animation cancel

[sudden stump]

What likely happened is they tried to fix the SSG with the tunablable, but since it backfired now they have to do a proper patch that requires certification for consoles etc so we have to wait. That's my guess though, maybe they can still fix it with tunables. Not on a weekend though lol.

[random sand]

That doesn't fix it. Animation canelling was the fun of it. It was so broken and fun😭

[uneven mortar]

The animation cancel was a completely fine temporary issue

[harsh egret]

lol dont expect a fix during the weekend tho at least

[wheat sigil]

i wouldn't call it broken, but fun ye

[verbal void]

Don’t understand how enhanced ahzrak is hard. Unless you’re playing on nightmare or higher

[sudden stump]

Well lots of people here play Nightmare with the lower parry windows

[wheat sigil]

that's irrelevant though

[frank turtle]

ssg my beloved

[green estuary]

Parry window

Lowest parry window makes all the difference

[vague sinew]

Ahzrak was a bitch to get thru with the lowest parry window on nightmare…especially in the first playthru

[sudden stump]

As soon as I saw him do that triple jab I understood why they were lenient with the default parry window lol

[green estuary]

The triple jab wasn’t that bad for me
It’s the attack where he swings five times in a row, all at slightly different intervals
Throws me off every time

[sudden stump]

I'm sure once you're able to read which combo he does at the start of the animation it's better, but I'm too washed for minimal parry window lol

[frank turtle]

I'm gonna create a nightmare save with insane modifiers

what should I make it?

I'll atleast do 150 speed

[crisp hare]

For me it was the third then the delayed 4th swing that got me. Did ultra violence with 120% game speed and smallest parry window

[sudden stump]

It's even harder when you have slow-mo turned off, barely any room to read his swings in between so you either learn the timing or spam block and pray. If you're me, anyway

[frank turtle]

150 speed, lowest parry, and 500% player damage

[frank turtle]

the stabilizer upgrade for the accelerator is underrated fr

feels nice to use

[stoic forge]

What is everyone’s favorite track from the soundtrack? I’m re-listening and finding some bangers. I really like Blood Red.

[green estuary]

What lies below

[frank turtle]

hm, maybe into the void

[sudden stump]

hellspawn rift, underrated

[frank turtle]

apotheosis, into the void, steel beyond the grave

[stoic forge]

This is filthy

Thanks! Out for an afternoon walk while this music melts my face

[sudden stump]

Took a while for the TDA music to warm up to me but the more I play it the more I jam out to it now

Like the music just fits whatever happens on screen, I feel like a deadly instrument

[exotic jetty]

Frfr

[midnight cedar]

Theomachy hits insanely hard

[lunar spire]

Still working on that between hex and flame cover

The lyrics are the part that's bottlenecking rn

The music is just so damn good

[frail bloom]

Ngl at first I wasn't sure abt it, but now I realize that it's literally the grooviest ost in the track, maybe top 5 doom tracks honestly

But number one is infernal chasm basm lasm

I love unholy siege as well it has my favorite drop

That no one ever includes in their remixes

Dinoheretic included

Which makes me saaad

[hearty edge]

chat wheres the chainshot im on siege

[floral blade]

what does completing mastery challenge give?

is it an upgrade

[frail bloom]

Uhhh

Nooo

You get a skin

I know, it's a bummer

[hearty edge]

gold skin wooo

but i kinda do like that they are just optional

and easy too

i just noticed those ball things are chainshot ammo

i thought they were grenade launcher ammo all the time and thought it was weird it had a different ammo type than the rockets

[frail bloom]

Huh

[floral blade]

damn that sucks

no point then

[floral blade]

chainshot has ammo??

never noticed cuz i never ran out lmao ammo management is so easy compared to eternal even on the lowest setting

[hearty edge]

yea

from the start you have almost the same shotgun ammo as the max in eternal lol

[hearty edge]

i did them all

ohh there's the chainshot

[wooden dock]

i just did a preset with a vagary and ripatorium turned it into a vagary champion for no reason

[upbeat junco]

he went through his transfiguration

[hearty edge]

i've heard that happens often

relationship ended with super shotgun the chainshot is my new best friend now

[wooden dock]

self improvement king 🙏

[hearty edge]

he got the ultra nightmare skin

[upbeat junco]

"relationship ended with super shotgun" then it was no real relationship if you're done after 1 down

[wooden dock]

if you can't take them at their worst you don't deserve them at their best

[upbeat junco]

^^

one day they'll make the super shotgun shoot 120mm canister shots, mark my words

[hearty edge]

beat the game using it 90% of the time on my first playthrough

[upbeat junco]

unfortunately real relationships require 110% investment

[wooden dock]

how do you avoid that one agaddon warrior attack thats unparriable and has no telegraph

[green estuary]

Don’t be overly close to him or else you’ll get hit with the initial swing before the red projectile comes out
Also if you block the red projectile, your shield thankfully won’t break (at 300% damage, not sure about 500%) so if you need to parry more attacks then you can
But obviously the best idea is to retreat a little after tanking the projectile with your shield and bait him into using his ranged attack so your shield gets time to regenerate

[white vortex]

Hola

Por mera casualidad alguien me podria recomendar alguna configuracion de demonios para el nuevo modo

[frail bloom]

To add on, you run faster depending on where you look, look either left or right and your sprint will do the rest

How abt you stop spamming Vega Sega

[unkempt dragon]

No estoy seguro de cómo modificar la configuración de los demonios en este nuevo juego. Lamentablemente, nuestro servidor solo habla inglés. ¡Lo siento!

[white vortex]

Bueno muchas gracias en ese caso voy a empesar a escribir en ingles
Te agradesco por la informacion del server

[unkempt dragon]

No problem brother. Thanks for understanding 🙏

[white vortex]

I'm going to try to improve my English since I honestly don't know it correctly.

[unkempt dragon]

A lot of the members here have learned just from chatting with people a lot. You'll do great!

It's ok if it's not perfect, you can always ask questions and one of us will know what you're saying.

[white vortex]

Ok, I'm going to try harder to understand it since these are the first times I've tried to read and write English.

[unkempt dragon]

English isn't the first language for many of the members here. 🙂

[white vortex]

ok I'll take that into account

[wooden dock]

No pressure at all to speak completely correct here lol

[unkempt dragon]

Exactly

[white vortex]

Thanks

[wooden dock]

I was suprised interacting with the broad doom community how prevalent Latin American fans are in the community
Fans of great games can come from anywhere

[unkempt dragon]

Yep and tons of Europeans. And everywhere else. It's cool how we all come together here.

[wooden dock]

There's this one big modder for another game I play that entirely works from his laptop in egypt

[unkempt dragon]

Awesome. Yep @supple oracle is one of my best friends and he learned English from being online and gaming.

[white vortex]

Thank you very much. I've also noticed that great support. The problem is that many Latin Americans don't speak English properly, and there are no healthy Spanish-speaking communities.

[unkempt dragon]

Yeah one day hopefully there will be! If you wanna try asking your question about the demon configuration we'll see if someone has the answer now.

[white vortex]

Ok, in that case, I would like to ask if someone could recommend me a challenging configuration.

[unkempt dragon]

@frail bloom @green estuary @harsh egret may have some ideas

[white vortex]

Okay, I'll try to ask them. Thank you for the information.

[unkempt dragon]

Of course. Don't dm them but they'll respond to you here once they are back online 🙂

[white vortex]

Of course, and the goal is to be a healthy and respectful community

[delicate grotto]

We really need a channel for presets until the Ripatorium gets a community page update, or something similar.

Here are a couple community made ones @white vortex

”Oops all Champions”
30 zombies, 5 energy soldiers, 3 stalkers, 3 pinky riders, 3 hell knights, 10 shield soldiers, 1 aggadon champion, 1 komodo champion, 1 vagary champion.

• By Samir

”Oops! All Armor!"
5 Heated Shields, 10 Unheated Shields, 10 Energy Shields, 3 Chaingunners, 4 Imp Stalkers, 3 Battle Knights, 2 Battle Knight Leaders, 3 Armored Pinkies, 2 Pinky Leaders, 3 Armored Arachnotrons, 2 Mancubi, 2 Mortar Mancubi, 2 Armored Mancubi, 2 Mancubus Leaders, 2 Vagaries and 1 Vagary Champion

• By Horde Mode Gaming

Cyberdemon leader + komodo + cosmic baron
imp stalker x4 + hell knight x2 + battle knight x1
one of each pinky/armored pinky arachnotron/armored arachnotron and mancubus/armored mancubus
whiplash x1 + revenant x2
zombie x10 + soldier x10 + heated/unheated shield soldier x5 + chaingunner x1 + imp x3

• By Katsu

1 wave
10 soldiers
15 heated metal soldiers
5 energy shields
2 chaingunners
2 nightmare imps
2 armored arachno
1 mancubus leader
1 revenant leader
1 whiplash
2 acolytes

• By Hato

[wooden dock]

True
A way to vote on which ones are the most fun would be cool as well

[unkempt dragon]

awesome ty for sending that to him

[delicate grotto]

There’s also a ton from Samir here. I’ve got one with some good feedback too, though it’s extremely hard. Lmk if you’re interested in giving it a go.

[white vortex]

Thank you very much, I appreciate your kindness.

[delicate grotto]

Yeah of course!
They’re good fun

[white vortex]

It's really a very good idea

[marble seal]

We definitely need

DOOMHUB fr fr

As a website

[delicate grotto]

Hoping for a community page or something similar to Snapmap at some point for the Ripatorium

[marble seal]

Dude

We really really need a co-op

Not online pvp

Just co-op

[delicate grotto]

I’d love a co-op at some point. Though I highly doubt we’ll see that for this game. Since it’s been widely asked for since Eternal, we might see them break in the idea for the next Doom game
You never know

[marble seal]

Yeah

Who knows!

That's fair enough

But co-op would still have a chance of atleast coming

Since Online PVP never seems to work in Modern Doom

(Well doom 2016 pvp was fine but still...)

[hearty edge]

dejame ver

en general @frail bloom tiene buenas configuraciones

tipo aca

a bueno ya habian dicho

[white vortex]

Si la configuracion que me dio @frail bloom me facino

[unkempt dragon]

Remember, English guys 💫

[hearty edge]

ye sorry

[white vortex]

right sorry I forgot

[hearty edge]

hey man your english is pretty good

[unkempt dragon]

I agree

[white vortex]

Thank you very much. I try my best to be the best I can.

[hearty edge]

it shows

[unkempt dragon]

Doing well

[white vortex]

Thanks

[hearty edge]

find it so funny that this chat is more active than general most of the time

[wooden dock]

Section for game that just had major update released is most popular chat

Also just the current title most people are into

[exotic jetty]

2+2=

[hearty edge]

well when you put it like that ig

[hearty edge]

fish

[white vortex]

Fish 🐟

[exotic jetty]

Nah the answer I was looking for was cats because mice don't like speggeti

[white vortex]

Wath?

[exotic jetty]

What

[hearty edge]

watt

[exotic jetty]

Idk

Idk I msfuyewdvyt. Y ⁶v8

Hyag0 ,

[hearty edge]

oh no bro got flarglorged

[white vortex]

or an excuse is that sometimes I forget how to write

[exotic jetty]

Sorry, I had a stroke

[uneven mortar]

Any ETA on shotgun fix?

[hearty edge]

whats eta

[exotic jetty]

Uh idk

[uneven mortar]

Estimated Time of Arrival

[exotic jetty]

Speggeti is fish I think

[hearty edge]

yea idk

[exotic jetty]

The cheez-its are no longer in the box

[hearty edge]

is bro ok

[exotic jetty]

Uh is cheese purple cuz dinosaurs are allergic to the sun

[hearty edge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1031014632405598308/1035315708818632784/output.gif

[uneven mortar]

So heckin random... holds up spork

[hearty edge]

hold on let him cook

[exotic jetty]

Cooks a fillet dino

[hearty edge]

nice cooking

[exotic jetty]

Hmm taste like chicken

[white vortex]

Haha, what random things

[hearty edge]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-the-dark-ages-launch-launch-the-true-melon-gif-15484408642892935923

love how the true is still visible in some frames

[exotic jetty]

Wait if 2 vegans are beefing is it still beef

[hearty edge]

nah they are toffuing

[exotic jetty]

Ah makes perfect sense turns into fish that swims in gravity

[hearty edge]

rad

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1400344876326850584/1404348638234415144/SaveTwitter.Net_GyBudsdb0AAiweD_gif.gif

[exotic jetty]

Dies from absolutely nothing

[wooden dock]

I am certain that offscreen pinky bullets have killed my more than any other enemy
Ti's a skill issue, I suppose...

[mental grotto]

I think this guy is overdosing and/or suffering a stroke

[exotic jetty]

Cjfjvivbovohigb 8b8bmr n6n

Sorry, I had another stroke

[strong cave]

Real

[exotic jetty]

Whose dave?

[velvet elbow]

I am doomin so hard in college rn

[exotic jetty]

Do u know who Dave is

[velvet elbow]

We don’t talk about him…

[mental grotto]

Hell yeah bro I move back in in 1 week

[velvet elbow]

Freshman year for me, I get access to a free gym

Unfortunately I thought legs were the perfect thing for me to start with

[mental grotto]

Oh right on man, I’m a junior

[velvet elbow]

And my bed is 4 feet off the ground

[mental grotto]

LOL

[velvet elbow]

And I am 5 ft tall

[mental grotto]

What’s ur major?

[velvet elbow]

Don’t quite know yet, I wanna go medical tho

[mental grotto]

That’s awesome man, but yeah totally normal to be undecided/switch majors

I started off as criminal justice on track for law school, then changed to secondary education 2 years in lmao

[velvet elbow]

lol, I’ll figure out my calling at some point

[mental grotto]

That’s the mindset you gotta have

[velvet elbow]

I’m just getting my mandated classes out of the way

[mental grotto]

College is a time of extreme personal growth and self-discovery, I wish you the best and hope you have a great time

[mental grotto]

This is a good strat, gen eds suck lol

[velvet elbow]

I don’t mind, a lot of things seem interesting

I’m taking an anthropology class to satisfy one of the requirements

[exotic jetty]

Dies of reading

[dark thunder]

what dodge window do u guys like with the mechs

im trying the smallest and im getting my ass kicked

[exotic jetty]

Wat dodge window

[velvet elbow]

Bro I feel that, but god damn it makes it much more fun

I’m playing it on nightmare again after beating it before the patches, I am getting my ass BEAT

[dark thunder]

short or longer amount of time given to dodge projectiles

this is actually bullshit on the smallest on the 2nd to last mission

[exotic jetty]

Oh I don't touch that stuff

[strong cave]

Someone who's known in the ghosts of tabor discord

[exotic jetty]

Ah but uh wait is that a spider on my bed

[dark thunder]

is the ssg shield bug fixed yet

[exotic jetty]

What bug

[dark thunder]

it was messing with the blocking

[exotic jetty]

Uh I guess it's fixed cuz all the hours i spent in dark ages I never saw this bug

[dark thunder]

I think its a new thing added in the new update

like you would shoot the ssg and you couldn't block fast enough

[exotic jetty]

Oh i think got this once its were the ssg would shoot for me but the shield would often be a Lil late and it annoys me

[dark thunder]

yeah thats what it is

makes it harder going toe to toe with like a cyberdemon or aggadon

[exotic jetty]

Fr it's my I get pissed off

[hearty edge]

man the headshot hitbox for the impaler is huge

just constantly getting headshots

[wooden dock]

Yep, kinda wish it was a little harder. Makes the weapon feel too easy a lot of the time

[hearty edge]

wait wha

siege 2 done already

siege 1 is one of the longest levels and then i beat siege 2 in like 25 minutes

[wooden dock]

The linear ones tend to be shorter

[raw drum]

how do you all think of the atlan mech gameplay now after the update

[mental grotto]

Good, very much an improvement. Makes the mech gameplay much more varied and strategic

[raw drum]

nice to know

[hearty edge]

definitely an improvement yes

i didnt remember this cyberdemon

who tf put a cyberdemon in the middle of an all out fight

[wooden dock]

Awesome people I love those guys

[hearty edge]

chat so is pandemonium just nightmare but if you use up all ur life sigils u die

[wooden dock]

Cyber demons are the most fun enemy encounters imo, big fan of their moveset

[hearty edge]

i also like them but i dont like them when 2 imp freaks and 3 hell knights are jumping me too

oh yes this is the one with the aggadon

[sudden stump]

Nightmare, but using a life sigil = restart entire level, die with no life sigils and the campaign is over

[sleek ermine]

[random sand]

Ya haven't experienced pain until you've died at the end of the game with no life sigils in pandemonium or in ultra-nightmare in general

I swear i almost broke a hole in my desk😭

[wooden dock]

I don't think my heart is build for pandemonium or ultra nightmare 😭
If I'm ever desperate for the golden skins I might have to cheap out and make the game way easier

[alpine pilot]

where doom

[frank turtle]

hi doom

[random sand]

that certainly is an option

[frank turtle]

Does that still work?

[wooden dock]

Oh well, part of the reward should be the satisfaction of truly achieving it. I don't think I'll ever resort to that

[fallen owl]

so i just jumped back into the game to try the new ripatorium and apparently some update or patch broke the config i was using to make the game playable on my laptop.
any help with that or do i just have to shelf the game for the forseeable future?

[random sand]

your choice. i'd say if you're gonna do it, give ultra nightmare some fair rounds at least

[frank turtle]

Ngl, the experience of beating UN "legit" is really fun, you get ur money's worth of the game too

but no shame if you just want the skin, it can take a while to beat UN

also gold serrat is peak

[heady mica]

ultra nightmare with spongebob music instead of the default OST is an experience

[frank turtle]

resurrection > siege pt 1

[frank turtle]

where's my tda ppl at

[split gate]

I’m here and I’m gaming rn, checking out people’s presets

[frank turtle]

Nice

[harsh egret]

i need to make mine more difficult

[sleek ermine]

WHO DOOM

[solemn mauve]

WHOM DOOM!

I hope today's the day for the ssg hot fix

[vague sinew]

I gave up on the ssg fix

[solemn mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/tobey-gif-2787110654213314235

[solid nacelle]

I would not expect it on a weekend

[harsh egret]

alr ive updated mine, feels pretty good, not the most challenging thing ur ever gonna do but i think its fun

1 wave
10 soldiers
15 heated metal soldiers
5 energy shields
2 chaingunners
9 imps
3 nightmare imp stalkers
3 hell knights
2 armored arachno
1 mancubus leader
1 revenant leader
1 whiplash
1 acolyte
1 acolyte leader
1 cosmic baron

@delicate grotto update the one u have written down from me with this one

[solemn mauve]

Ok this is fun, I might try this later

[harsh egret]

if anybody is gonna try this, u can ping me and lmk what u think

[frank turtle]

campaign, dlc, ripatorium, master levels

[frail bloom]

Sorry I was gone

[frank turtle]

Wonder if we will get anything else

[frail bloom]

Lemme post them for you

(2)"Demon war" loadout:

5 heated/unheated metal shield soldiers(10 total)
5 energy shield soldiers
9 imps
6 imp stalkers
3 hell knights
3 battle knights
3 pinky riders
3 armored pinky riders
3 arachnotrons
3 armored arachnotrons
3 mancubi
3 mortar mancubi
3 armored mancubi
1 revenant
2 vagaries
@white vortex

(3)"Melee Army" loadout:

20 zombies
15 heated metal shield soldiers
5 energy shield soldiers
6 imp stalkers
3 hell knights
3 battle knights
3 battle knight leaders
3 cosmic barons
1 agaddon hunter
@white vortex

(4)"Siege Battalion" loadout:

20 zombies
10 heated metal shield soldiers
10 energy shield soldiers
3 imps
6 imp stalkers
3 pinky riders
3 armored pinky riders
1 cyberdemon leader
2 vagaries
1 vagary champion
@white vortex

(5)"Plutonia" loadout:

20 soldiers
10 heated metal shield soldiers
5 unheated metal shield soldiers
5 energy shield soldiers
3 chaingunners
6 imp stalkers
1 nightmare stalker
3 pinky riders
1 arachnotron
3 revenants
2 revenant leaders
1 acolyte leader
@white vortex

(6)"Superheavy pot" loadout:

15 heated metal shield soldiers
15 unheated metal shield soldiers
5 energy shield soldiers
6 stone imps
6 imp stalkers
3 battle knights
2 pinky riders
3 armored mancubi
1 cyberdemon
1 Cosmic baron
1 agaddon hunter
1 komodo
1 vagary
@white vortex

(7)"Prehistoric pressure" loadout:

10 zombies
10 soldiers
10 heated metal shield soldiers
5 unheated metal shield soldiers
5 energy shield soldiers
3 pinky riders
3 armored pinky riders
3 pinky rider leaders
3 whiplashes
2 komodoes
1 komodo leader
1 komodo champion
@white vortex

(8)"Oops! All leaders!" loadout:

20 zombies
10 soldiers
10 heated metal shield soldiers
10 unheated metal shield soldiers
2 imp stalkers
1 battleknight leader
1 pinky rider leader
1 mancubus leader
1 revenant leader
1 acolyte leader
1 cyberdemon leader
1 agaddon leader
1 komodo leader
@white vortex

(9)"Babylon Brigade" loadout:

Respawn count: 3

30 soldiers
10 heated metal shield soldiers
5 energy shield soldiers
3 chaingunners
9 imps
2 cyberdemons
1 cyberdemon leader
@white vortex

[grizzled thicket]

Holy yap

I aint reading allat

[frail bloom]

Sorry it's the only way to share

[grizzled thicket]

Dam

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-saul-chuck-mcgill-chicanery-breakdown-gif-25422432

[frail bloom]

Don't have an extra tab for this

[uneven mortar]

They should add a channel

[frail bloom]

Ye I agree

[frail bloom]

Whaddya call this

Hato Preset nr 3.

[uneven mortar]

Can someone like ask the admins

Or mods or w/e

[grizzled thicket]

U can ask

[frail bloom]

Lmao

What if they're shy

I'm kidding

[grizzled thicket]

Not my proplem🤷‍♂️

[uneven mortar]

Proplem

[grizzled thicket]

Yes

[frail bloom]

@unkempt dragon is it maybe sorta possible in the near future that we may have channel for presets in Dark ages please? Just to avoid clogging this channel like shown above? Thanks.

(It's just any mod right, and they take it to admin if they want to right)

((And the admin has to choose afterwards right))

(((Right)))

[harsh egret]

nah its just my main one that i updated

[frail bloom]

Ohhhh

[harsh egret]

i think i only put out that one

[frail bloom]

Give it a name

It's your baby

Can't leave your child nameless

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doom-guy-doom-eternal-crucible-gif-3516595258352456593

[frail bloom]

Smh

If not I have to give it a name

[harsh egret]

idk prob smth based around the acolytes

they're kinda the main theme of the preset

[frail bloom]

I was gonna say smt super silly but ye I'll take it seriously

"Acolyte assault"

Or you can take the other one

"Goofy ahhh rippin and tearing xl clothes" preset

(The latter is the most desirable)

https://tenor.com/view/the-divergent-series-allegiant-hello-miles-teller-人呢-gif-5604237

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-annoyed-angry-frustrated-silence-gif-3234177536345299895

[solar cairn]

Next patch in September

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/jordan-stop-it-gif-15830202965985496707

[unkempt dragon]

You're definitely not the first person to request this. If you could send a message to Modmail you'll get an answer quicker, since I actually am unsure about this one!🙂

[harsh egret]

Hugo himself mentioned about having a dedicated channel for sharing these things on his last stream

[frank turtle]

aggadon hunters give me more trouble than marauders I swear

[solar cairn]

They just need to make a hub in the game with loading third-party presets and that’s it

[harsh egret]

what?

[solar cairn]

What’s the point of these channels?

The game itself should be able to share and download sets with demons

Manually assemble a preset from the description in the discord channel is a cringe

[harsh egret]

thats another system that need time to implement, and it doesnt sound like thats in the plans

[harsh egret]

no its not, we are doing it already and its been fine

[solar cairn]

Let them do it)

They have already made a modhub in the eternal, much less work is required here

[harsh egret]

bro does not understand gamedev

[frail bloom]

@patent kelp is it possible in the near future that we may have channel for presets in Dark ages please? Just to avoid clogging this channel like shown above? Thanks.

[frail bloom]

Thanks for responding

[frail bloom]

No I remember him liking the idea of sharing community presets in some sort of tab in dark ages

[solar cairn]

I see that the game on the release had no content and it needs to be fixed, the hubmod with presets begs almost the very first

[frail bloom]

Not just discord but actually in the game

[frail bloom]

We'll get there when we get there

If you think this is slow just think abt eternal

[solar cairn]

I’m ready to change this feature to master levels, at least there is potential here

[frail bloom]

Change what now

I'm confused

[solar cairn]

So that the master levels are released later

[frail bloom]

Still not answering my question

Change what?

[solar cairn]

Change priorities so that the hub with presets for the ripatorium is made faster than the same master levels

[frail bloom]

Ohhhh

Y'know they have a lot of teams that interchange departments

All departments can dabble in certain other things that they can change what their role is in office

[harsh egret]

hugo says alot of things

he mentioned a discord channel to share presets like 3 times last stream

he also likes the idea of the revenant parryable projectiles to be randomized yet after the update here we are