the-dark-ages

[green estuary]

chaingunners on 250% damage or above can honestly go fuck themselves

[exotic jetty]

I like the sound of steak rn☺️

But what's under there

[hearty edge]

no

[exotic jetty]

You catch on pretty quick

[solid nacelle]

Looks like the youtube stream is already set up

They're on top of it for once lol

[exotic jetty]

Dies

[cunning kiln]

[cursive vapor]

im on

[harsh egret]

the more i play through act 2/3 rn, the more i see how fked some of the checkpoints are lol

[sonic turret]

there's so many checkpoint bugs fr

[raven vine]

what’s that? whats a checkpoint? -someone who exclusively grinds modified UN (me)

[solemn mauve]

With more updates comes more problems

[sonic turret]

I like restarting checkpoints in the middle of fights to see what is broken, cause it's usually cursed

[harsh egret]

yep

[brave wren]

how different is the game now if i finished it on the day of launch ?

[green estuary]

much harder

also combat should feel smoother

[sonic turret]

not much, a few combats are slightly more challenging technically, but same Impaler combos to cheese all the fights still exist, and all of the easy solutions to early game fights haven't been directly or implicitly nerfed. ostensibly it's harder but dark ages is about the most braindead doom game so, NM 150% game speed max enemy projectile speed is still a joke.

[brave wren]

Oh cool, i wanted to give it another go again and its been sometimr

[sonic turret]

I honestly barely noticed any difference, it is better though

[sudden stump]

Should feel a lot harder, unless you're an eternal junkie where nothing on the face of the Earth is challenging anymore. Even so the game feels a lot smoother mechanically.

[cursive vapor]

t

[solar cairn]

I just started replaying the game after the second patch and it seems like it makes sense to reset the progress again

[sonic turret]

yeah i have like 1200 hours in eternal most in cbt mods lol, whoops lol

[sudden stump]

yeah that's part of the problem with doing a sequel after Eternal lol

[sonic turret]

:P

[sudden stump]

Bar was raised so high they have to go somewhere else

[sonic turret]

yeah I ended up speedrunning other arena shooters

still kinda want to get into speedrunning prodeus but idk

torn with metroid prime 2, though it's not an arena shooter

[wispy night]

Is it a bug that when you throw the shield and wait for it to reach close to its max throw range that you can't recall your shield on a RMB tap?

There's a window there where tapping RMB doesn't return the shield. Double tapping RMB does tho

[wheat sigil]

the de brainrot of cbt...

[sonic turret]

Slaughter maps too fun

[wheat sigil]

most slaughter maps are honestly mid in my opinion

[fringe nimbus]

In what plataforms is posible to play this game

[wheat sigil]

and most is almost all/all

custom diffs on top🗣️

[frail bloom]

I got some cool presets for y'all

Lemme send it

I won't be on here much so copy the messages incase anyone asks for a preset

[harsh egret]

hi samir where u been

also have u played my setup

[frail bloom]

Been busy doing school work and other stuff

Trying to volunteer in a hospital

[frail bloom]

No not yet

Bro I can't share it for some reason

Killing me man

(1)"Oops! All Champions" loadout:

30 zombies
5 energy soldiers
10 shield soldiers
4 stalkers
3 pinky riders
3 hell knights
1 aggadon champion
1 komodo champion
1 vagary champion

[harsh egret]

cool man

[frail bloom]

(2)"Demon war" loadout:

5 heated/unheated metal shield soldiers(10 total)
5 energy shield soldiers
9 imps
6 imp stalkers
3 hell knights
3 battle knights
3 pinky riders
3 armored pinky riders
3 arachnotrons
3 armored arachnotrons
3 mancubi
3 mortar mancubi
3 armored mancubi
1 revenant
2 vagaries

(3)"Melee Army" loadout:

20 zombies
15 heated metal shield soldiers
5 energy shield soldiers
6 imp stalkers
3 hell knights
3 battle knights
3 battle knight leaders
3 cosmic barons
1 agaddon hunter

[green estuary]

3 cosmic barons

bruh

[frail bloom]

(4)"Siege Battalion" loadout:

20 zombies
10 heated metal shield soldiers
10 energy shield soldiers
3 imps
6 imp stalkers
3 pinky riders
3 armored pinky riders
1 cyberdemon leader
2 vagaries
1 vagary champion

(5)"Plutonia" loadout:

20 soldiers
10 heated metal shield soldiers
5 unheated metal shield soldiers
5 energy shield soldiers
3 chaingunners
6 imp stalkers
1 nightmare stalker
3 pinky riders
1 arachnotron
3 revenants
2 revenant leaders
1 acolyte leader

(6)"Superheavy pot" loadout:

15 heated metal shield soldiers
15 unheated metal shield soldiers
5 energy shield soldiers
6 stone imps
6 imp stalkers
3 battle knights
2 pinky riders
3 armored mancubi
1 cyberdemon
1 Cosmic baron
1 agaddon hunter
1 komodo
1 vagary

(7)"Prehistoric pressure" loadout:

10 zombies
10 soldiers
10 heated metal shield soldiers
5 unheated metal shield soldiers
5 energy shield soldiers
3 pinky riders
3 armored pinky riders
3 pinky rider leaders
3 whiplashes
2 komodoes
1 komodo leader
1 komodo champion

[spare panther]

Melee and rune hotswap confirmed for future update rn

[frail bloom]

Wait where?

[hearty edge]

oh hell no

[frail bloom]

Did hugo say?

[spare panther]

Hugo stream

[frail bloom]

I was NOT paying attention

[spare panther]

Lol

[frail bloom]

Hato can you confirm

Not that I don't trust

I was just so lost

[hearty edge]

this one sounds fun

except for my fps

[harsh egret]

he is trolling

[frail bloom]

(8)"Oops! All leaders!" loadout:

20 zombies
10 soldiers
10 heated metal shield soldiers
10 unheated metal shield soldiers
2 imp stalkers
1 battleknight leader
1 pinky rider leader
1 mancubus leader
1 revenant leader
1 acolyte leader
1 cyberdemon leader
1 agaddon leader
1 komodo leader

[hearty edge]

belly of the beast is like my new super gore nest

[frail bloom]

Well well well

[spare panther]

Was he? oops

My attention is divided between the game and the stream, my bad

[frail bloom]

(9)"Babylon Brigade" loadout:

Respawn count: 3

30 soldiers
10 heated metal shield soldiers
5 energy shield soldiers
3 chaingunners
9 imps
2 cyberdemons
1 cyberdemon leader

Wait so he was trolling????

Hugo whyyyyyy

[harsh egret]

mf stream is not live

[spare panther]

Yeah it is bro

[frail bloom]

It is

On youtube

[harsh egret]

wut

[spare panther]

went live 15 minutes ago

[hearty edge]

bruh why did they unfix the hotfix

[wanton nimbus]

why are some secrets seemingly sometimes impossible to complete ?

im on chapter 17 i think, and im p sure i need an air booster to get to one, but it just isnt even active, and no matter how much i search i just cannot activate it, even looked at a guide and they dont help

had this on a previous level, and i had to restart from a checkpoint and clear the encounter again and then it was just active

[frail bloom]

Wait, so js it real??

[harsh egret]

fuck me

[frail bloom]

FINALLYYYYY

[harsh egret]

its usually 1 am for me man xd

[frail bloom]

HUGO HALLEJUJAH

[spare panther]

Yeah it is then

[frail bloom]

Anyways guys copy my presets please

I don't wanna type it all out again

[hearty edge]

i think that one is the one before belly of the beast right

i think the boosters and all that activate once you go through a section

[wanton nimbus]

idk maybe? its the one with all the boats and water

[hearty edge]

so dont worry about it

[hearty edge]

oh yea it is just continue with the mission and you will see them

[wanton nimbus]

oh ok thanks, so clunky feeling lol

[harsh egret]

did hugo say anything else than that

[frail bloom]

No clue

[harsh egret]

@spare panther

[spare panther]

Not that ive heard

[frail bloom]

Not paying attention

[spare panther]

ill go back a minute, i eas downstairs getting dinner

[frail bloom]

I'm gonna have to type it all out again do I...

[spare panther]

Oh sorry also tweaks to auper shotgun, impaler, and maintains iirc

[frail bloom]

Oh ye

They're bouncing back a little on some stuff

[green estuary]

more ssg nerfs incoming

[hearty edge]

DAMNIT

[frail bloom]

No he never said that

[green estuary]

also more impaler buffs incoming

[hearty edge]

ITS ALREADY ENOUGH

[spare panther]

Nah he specifically said "a little boost"

[hearty edge]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN BUFFS

[green estuary]

yeak ik he said "tweaks"
I'm just making a joke

[frail bloom]

Ye that

[spare panther]

Ohh my fault lol

[hearty edge]

oh alr

[frail bloom]

Katsu copy my presets pls

[hearty edge]

i hope they refix the thing they unfixed

[frail bloom]

I don't want to lose them

[green estuary]

it's not gonna make any difference to me whether or not they nerf the ssg because I'm just gonna continue to play with the pre-update 2 specs regardless

and I never use the impaler anyway so I'm all set

[solar cairn]

I’m already confused

What to expect in the future?

[frail bloom]

Alr imma tyoe it out one more time

[harsh egret]

did he say ssg buffs then or what

[frail bloom]

(1)"Oops! All Champions" loadout:

30 zombies
5 energy soldiers
10 shield soldiers
4 stalkers
3 pinky riders
3 hell knights
1 aggadon champion
1 komodo champion
1 vagary champion

(2)"Demon war" loadout:

5 heated/unheated metal shield soldiers(10 total)
5 energy shield soldiers
9 imps
6 imp stalkers
3 hell knights
3 battle knights
3 pinky riders
3 armored pinky riders
3 arachnotrons
3 armored arachnotrons
3 mancubi
3 mortar mancubi
3 armored mancubi
1 revenant
2 vagaries

(3)"Melee Army" loadout:

20 zombies
15 heated metal shield soldiers
5 energy shield soldiers
6 imp stalkers
3 hell knights
3 battle knights
3 battle knight leaders
3 cosmic barons
1 agaddon hunter

(4)"Siege Battalion" loadout:

20 zombies
10 heated metal shield soldiers
10 energy shield soldiers
3 imps
6 imp stalkers
3 pinky riders
3 armored pinky riders
1 cyberdemon leader
2 vagaries
1 vagary champion

(5)"Plutonia" loadout:

20 soldiers
10 heated metal shield soldiers
5 unheated metal shield soldiers
5 energy shield soldiers
3 chaingunners
6 imp stalkers
1 nightmare stalker
3 pinky riders
1 arachnotron
3 revenants
2 revenant leaders
1 acolyte leader

[spare panther]

3 cosmic barons holy shit

[frail bloom]

(6)"Superheavy pot" loadout:

15 heated metal shield soldiers
15 unheated metal shield soldiers
5 energy shield soldiers
6 stone imps
6 imp stalkers
3 battle knights
2 pinky riders
3 armored mancubi
1 cyberdemon
1 Cosmic baron
1 agaddon hunter
1 komodo
1 vagary

(7)"Prehistoric pressure" loadout:

10 zombies
10 soldiers
10 heated metal shield soldiers
5 unheated metal shield soldiers
5 energy shield soldiers
3 pinky riders
3 armored pinky riders
3 pinky rider leaders
3 whiplashes
2 komodoes
1 komodo leader
1 komodo champion

(8)"Oops! All leaders!" loadout:

20 zombies
10 soldiers
10 heated metal shield soldiers
10 unheated metal shield soldiers
2 imp stalkers
1 battleknight leader
1 pinky rider leader
1 mancubus leader
1 revenant leader
1 acolyte leader
1 cyberdemon leader
1 agaddon leader
1 komodo leader

(9)"Babylon Brigade" loadout:

Respawn count: 3

30 soldiers
10 heated metal shield soldiers
5 energy shield soldiers
3 chaingunners
9 imps
2 cyberdemons
1 cyberdemon leader

Carry on my legacy

WAIT TELL HIM MY PRESETS

[harsh egret]

hugo gonna do community rippatorium stuff

[frail bloom]

TELL HIIIMMMM

[harsh egret]

no im telling him mine hehe

[frail bloom]

I have fine tuned mine

[green estuary]

Just make a discord server with only you in it and send them to yourself

[frail bloom]

I already copied them to clip board

The only reason I ask is cuz I won't be here much

So y'all can share all 9 of my presets if someone asks

They are hard but totally manageable

And fun

@spare panther tell hugo to try some of my presets if you want to

I recommend "Plutonia"

And "Oops! All champions"

"Babylon Brigade"

[spare panther]

Do you want me to paste the whole thing in there idk how the mods or whatever would feel about it

Actually hold on

[frail bloom]

No you're able to copy one preset at a time

So I'd recommend one

Then when he is done you paste another

[spare panther]

Ill try to bring it up to him first

[frail bloom]

Hey I saw your message

Real smooth

[spare panther]

Hopefully thats not sarcasm lol

[frail bloom]

I'm not being sarcastic

I actually mean it

[spare panther]

Okay nice

[solid nacelle]

I think hugo just confirmed customized waves

[frail bloom]

He did

[spare panther]

Ill try to bring it up a few times during the stream so dw

[frail bloom]

WHY IS HE IGNORING

[frail bloom]

Oh okay thanks

I spent 3 hrs making them up so I hope they catch on

[spare panther]

Im also gonna try them too later

ive been dying for good presets

[frail bloom]

Ye they're very fun

But they may take a couple attempts

[spare panther]

Good the more challenging the better

aslong as its still fair of course lol

[harsh egret]

love me some 20 fps streams

[frail bloom]

Ye they're designed to be challenging but when you know the spawns and who to target they flow smoothly

Part of a good preset is its flair btw

It needs some quirky enemy placement and a name that sticks

[spare panther]

He saw it lol

[frail bloom]

YES

We'll wait

[harsh egret]

old man prioritizing youtube chat smh

[frail bloom]

Haha

Imma be famous

Send him Plutonia first

[spare panther]

I will

[harsh egret]

[spare panther]

Already have it chambered in the clip board

[frail bloom]

No superheavies yet it's very challenging

[harsh egret]

its a war

[spare panther]

Gonna try plutonia myself real quick

[frail bloom]

And I win

[spare panther]

Any reccomendations for the respawns or time limit?

[frail bloom]

Time limit is 5 min and no respawns

The only one that has respawns is Babylon Brigade

Which is the easiest one but it's also pretty fun

[spare panther]

Alr

[harsh egret]

2v1

[frail bloom]

I hope he likes them

If he's good enough he can do "melee army"

Which is the hardest one

[spare panther]

dude holy revenant

[frail bloom]

Ye priotize them first with the dreadmace

And use the shock rune to keep them in place

Then get the acolyte leader

[spare panther]

got it got it

[harsh egret]

i rly gotta go youtube chat for this

this guy man

[frail bloom]

Btw make sure when you send plutonia to recommend the cosmic realm map

[spare panther]

Alright

[frail bloom]

You need cover and elevation

[spare panther]

Oh good thats the map i chose rn

[frail bloom]

Tysm

I gotchu hugo

[spare panther]

This will be hard to paste into chat theres a text limit apparently

[frail bloom]

What is the limit

It's only one preset

Just do one at a time

[oblique raft]

Its probably it going to take year for dlc to drop

[spare panther]

i mean the letters turn dark gray after a certain point im guessing thats the limit

Yeah im only doing one

[frail bloom]

Yup

[wheat sigil]

hopefully

[harsh egret]

^

[frail bloom]

And if he wants more you can paste a different one

[spare panther]

Alright

[frail bloom]

M1 try my presets pls

They're fun

[oblique raft]

I actually love doom dark ages more than doom eternal

[frail bloom]

Same

[oblique raft]

They put to much in doom eternal

[wheat sigil]

okay flibbertigibbet

[frail bloom]

Yipee

[wheat sigil]

maybe tomorrow

[frail bloom]

Aw

[wheat sigil]

optimally i would've been sleeping 2 hours ago

[frail bloom]

How abt this

I send two and you copy them in the clipboard

(5)"Plutonia" loadout:

20 soldiers
10 heated metal shield soldiers
5 unheated metal shield soldiers
5 energy shield soldiers
3 chaingunners
6 imp stalkers
1 nightmare stalker
3 pinky riders
1 arachnotron
3 revenants
2 revenant leaders
1 acolyte leader

(3)"Melee Army" loadout:

20 zombies
15 heated metal shield soldiers
5 energy shield soldiers
6 imp stalkers
3 hell knights
3 battle knights
3 battle knight leaders
3 cosmic barons
1 agaddon hunter

These are the hardest I believe

I was trynna make a cosmic realm theme for a preset but the caco's are bugged

They shoot too fast

[harsh egret]

cacos are just bad

[frail bloom]

They're too bugged

[harsh egret]

idk about bugged

[frail bloom]

So they're unfun to fight now

[harsh egret]

they are just bad design, especially the net attack

[frail bloom]

The parryable projectile is too fast and sometimes it's just right

It's clearly bugged

[harsh egret]

yh just talking about the net attack, i hate it

[frail bloom]

Sometimes the projectile just glitches and clips

[spare panther]

Beat the plutonia one

[frail bloom]

How was it?

[spare panther]

It was good

[frail bloom]

Did you use bfc

[spare panther]

I have a dep hatred for hitscanners but thats not your fault lol

No i did not

[frail bloom]

Yipee

You want another one?

[spare panther]

I was gonna do melee army one

[frail bloom]

Ye do that one

[spare panther]

Arena suggestion for it?

[frail bloom]

Cosmic realm

[spare panther]

Lol cool

[frail bloom]

I did all of them on cosmic realm except Babylon brigade

[spare panther]

That one seems pretty different alright

Ill try it after melee army

[frail bloom]

Ye that one is on khalim

[wheat sigil]

dam 3 cosmic bois

[frail bloom]

It's totally possible

You just need to keep running

I used dreadmace and the heaven splitter rune

Keeps them in place

[wheat sigil]

i thought tda was stand and fifht🤨

[harsh egret]

lol

[wheat sigil]

fifht, english

[spare panther]

this one seems fucked up

[frail bloom]

You're gonna do a lot of that with the battleknights don't worry

[frail bloom]

It's doable

And fun

[spare panther]

Oh i know

Ill beat it

[frail bloom]

I'd leave the agaddon last

Target the cosmic bois first

Use the rocket launcher to shoot those cosmic bois and dreadmace them

Keep in place with heaven splitter

[frank turtle]

did hugo say anything about a patch earlier in the stream

[frail bloom]

alr i gotta go

[harsh egret]

cyu!

[spare panther]

I beat melee army

Fun chaos

[sudden stump]

Anyone else get fucked up by the optional Komodo encounter on spire? wtf is that combination in such a tight space

[calm tangle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/928122210898571275/1405687621623218308/Happy_Battleknight.png?ex=689fbc1d&is=689e6a9d&hm=026f4cc578051169a2b19cf886822041a28a8e0deb62e830e7b30cec84d9ca9b&

[hard thistle]

hugo confirmed rune switching and melee switching is coming

[oblique pilot]

Let’s goooo

[hard thistle]

for melee i really only use the gauntlets. but i'm hyped for rune switching, cuz they're all really useful

[harsh egret]

did he say soon, or is that the type of thing that could come with dlc?

[hard thistle]

he just said incoming

[harsh egret]

alr

[hard thistle]

they mentioned there's a tunable coming tomorrow, to unbuff the chaingunner cuz they're too op

[harsh egret]

imo i imagine it coming with dlc OR with master levels/ng+

[harsh egret]

ye i think it was smth about the time between bursts getting increased or smth or am i wrong

[hard thistle]

yea, that was it. basically give you more time to react by increasing their cooldown time before they shoot again

[sudden stump]

Oh thank god, impossible for me not to use Kaibz mod until this ships

[harsh egret]

"hugo will you add enforcer demons to the ripatorium"
hugo: idk
😐

[frank turtle]

Wonder how it'll work on controller

maybe like how the frag/icebomb worked in eternal

[harsh egret]

Hugo doesnt think we will get tracks in the ripatorium from other artists :/

i asked him based off of the fact that theres the name of the artist on each track

[frail bloom]

Did he play my presets???

I'm back btw hello

[frail bloom]

Yell at him till he does

[harsh egret]

nah, played saleem's until he beat it, was pretty fun

[frail bloom]

HEYY!

Saleem shlalim

I bet I can make a funner one

[harsh egret]

im sure it wasnt like this but he seemed kinda annoyed at my ideas cuz he either didnt know or just prob knows it wont happen

[frail bloom]

What abt dlc

[harsh egret]

tbf both things i asked was when he was in big arena fights xd

nothing new

[frail bloom]

He has to put those in

[harsh egret]

ah i mean yeah obv

[frail bloom]

So should I skip forward

[harsh egret]

my question was about other artists like andrew

[frail bloom]

Did he say anything else

[harsh egret]

Melee and rune hotswap confirmed coming! (dont know when)
Slight SSG buff coming and the SSG bugs are being looked into
Chaingunners will get a nerf on the time between bursts
Impaler balance updates coming after becoming a bit too strong after the last update
Ripatorium issues with having no resources sometimes is being looked into
Ripatorium presets coming in the future also
Things like melee and weapon upgrades not getting saved in the ripatorium will be getting fixed
Maintains will get scaled back on the Aggadon and Komodo intro bossfights

[frail bloom]

You have officially usurped me

[harsh egret]

lmfao nah

[frail bloom]

I'll copy the text incase anyone asks for the changes

Tbh I thought the maintains were fine

I still did them on the same amt of time but hey

I can stick to one on one duels

[harsh egret]

went back to check smth, hugo said the melee and rune swap stuff will be out in a farther patch

[frail bloom]

Ye obv

[harsh egret]

same but for new players its not really

[frail bloom]

Probably in a month

[harsh egret]

for me i would love them to keep them but its understandable

and like mayo said, imagine having maintains on the marauder fights when u first meet him

nah bro

[frail bloom]

Ye it makes a lot of sense

I get it

But for dlc...

[harsh egret]

its only those 2 fights, all g

[frail bloom]

No excuses

From any player

Lookin at you Devostation

Wait I just realized he would love this info

[frail bloom]

@compact hemlock

[harsh egret]

also hugo said they are pretty much done with the tuning of the game, just need to fix some of the bugs and shit that popped up

[frail bloom]

Ye that makes a lot of sense

[harsh egret]

expecting master levels / ng+ for next major update ngl

[frail bloom]

We're almost there we just need like august and september to tune out some bugs and some gameplay changes

Biggest one is melee and rune hotswap

Wait he said rune too?

[harsh egret]

yes

[frail bloom]

And it's not hotswap right?

It's just regular swap

Damn so you can switch melee AND runes

[harsh egret]

pretty sure yes

[frail bloom]

That also implies another thing

The master levels and dlc will be pretty hard to compenstate these changes

Like duh but now they gotta up their game

ME HUGO ME

I HAVE ALL OF THEM

[harsh egret]

no

[frail bloom]

Alr imma animate my archvile thing now

So byee

[harsh egret]

cya

[solar cairn]

Melee and rune hotswap, f*ck..

I already have all my fingers busy in battle, and then at least 2 more buttons will be added

[harsh egret]

we'll see what and how they do it.

cuz the goal isnt to fight the controls like in eternal, so we'll see what they do

[solid nacelle]

Is there a tunable coming tomorrow? Or a patch

[harsh egret]

apparently might be for the chaingunners yes

atleast of what we know

[sudden stump]

In Kaibz mod I have melee switch on C and it wraps around the selections. Feels pretty good that way but whatever the devs do also has to translate well to controller

[copper torrent]

How does the community feel about the chaingunners?

[harsh egret]

ppl think they're overtuned, imo they are fine

i tend to have the unpopular opinion sometimes but what can i do

[copper torrent]

I think they're good for experienced players but frustrating for new players.

[harsh egret]

if u put it that way yeah, sure

[sudden stump]

New players tend to ignore chaingunners or other fodder in the background

[compact hemlock]

Melee + Rune hotswap will really take this game up a few notches in the skill ceiling department.
I am hoping the unupgraded SSG gets buffed, it's fantastic in the late game but I feel like its ramp-up time compared to the Impaler was poor. The Impaler is more effective for less currency, so in the early game the SSG felt bad.
The Ripatorium getting presets is great, hopefully players will be able to create their own, but having templates to get started with will be good for players who just want to jump in for half an hour without setting everything up each time.

[copper torrent]

I mean, they're only really bad in the begining when you have no powerful guns

[harsh egret]

yeah apparently we will be able to make and save our own presets yes

[sudden stump]

Would be cool if chaingunners were fat like Doom 2 so you can shoot around their shield

[copper torrent]

Where did he say that? there was no streaming this week, right?

[harsh egret]

there was, ended like 20 mins ago

[copper torrent]

Oh, cool. I meant last week lol

[harsh egret]

ah lol yeah all this info is from today

[copper torrent]

I'm in class, can't watch. I'm just on Discord because I'm bored

On PC I can use nothing but impaler, headshoting every enemy is too fun

[harsh egret]

Melee and rune hotswap confirmed coming ("those things will be out in a farther patch, closer to dlc")
Slight SSG buff coming and the SSG bugs are being looked into
Chaingunners will get a nerf on the time between bursts
Impaler balance updates coming after becoming a bit too strong after the last update
Maintains will get scaled back on the Aggadon and Komodo intro bossfights
"We are just about done with the tuning of the game, save for some of these inconvenient bugs that popped up"

Ripatorium stuff:
Issues with having not enough resources sometimes is being looked into
Things like melee and weapon upgrades not getting saved in the ripatorium will be getting fixed
Being able to customize each individual wave, the ability to save the encounters that you create, prebaked waves directly from id software could also be on the way (some of these are things that could come sooner rather than later)

full list of stuff from today's stream ^

[marble seal]

Who else listens to lucky twice while beheading demons in endless mode?

It's very sigma!

[worn lion]

I just now noticed there was a stream.
Anything juicy?

[harsh egret]

i just wrote a wall of text above lol

[worn lion]

Oh
My bad lol

[hearty edge]

yayyy chaingunner nerf

also i freaking hope the ssg bug gets fixed without any downside bc they literally unfixed the fix

ooh damn customizable waves

[sudden stump]

It was probably just something that wasn't easily fixed with tunables, not without side effects

Honestly I would have rather them just keep the broken hotfix instead of reverting to something that feels worse

[hearty edge]

yea

[solid nacelle]

This is sort of a small nitpick but I wish the game wouldn't take away my shield charge when I bash into environmental stuff

[hearty edge]

idec about the quickswitching i didnt even use it that much

but i prefer that over not being able to use the ssg without freaking dying

[sudden stump]

It was not something that a normal person would have figured out on their own I think

[hearty edge]

yea

[warm ibex]

"impaler balance updates" jesus christ man just let shit be busted

[sudden stump]

well it's more busted then it was before

If you headshot a lot anyway

[warm ibex]

good!! it's even more fun than it was before!!!

[hearty edge]

i dont know how but i think i get less headshots now

still damn good

and rn along the cosmic gauss canon is my weapon of choice

[sudden stump]

maybe it's harder on controller but those head hit boxes are huge

[hearty edge]

nah i do use mouse

maybe my resolution makes it harder to see

[hearty edge]

ahh chainshot

[harsh egret]

ik its all supposed to be fun, i just dont wanna use a weapon and feel bad about it cuz its too strong

i use the shredder all the time now instead cuz i also like the pincushion, its alotta fun for me

[sudden stump]

shoot heads to win just isn't fun to me, I mean I won't use it either way anyway but still

[harsh egret]

but surely they would know that increasing headshot damage and decreasing bodyshot dmg is still a buff and the gun is undisputedly the best
how do they look at that change on paper even and not see how broken that it lol

[lament lotus]

I'm more of a ricochet apologist here, but how a slayer shreds is a personal choice 👍

[harsh egret]

i see what u did there

[sudden stump]

Richohet is broken AF please don't tell Hugo

[harsh egret]

yh he had a bug where he had both upgrades trigger at the same time in the ripatorium lmfao

so he was ricocheting while also stacking up shots for the pincushion

[lament lotus]

It's really good until superheavies get involved and then it's terrible

Ricochet also targets explosive barrels so try not to blow yourself up with it

[green estuary]

preferences aside, it's a little unfortunate that pincushion is just objectively better than ricochet

[sudden stump]

It still does good damage against super heavies but you need another demon to leech off first

[lament lotus]

That is true, although they are both solid crowd control options.

[sudden stump]

I would say pin gives overall more value to the things you do though

[green estuary]

pincushion has way more ways to trigger it, while also faltering demons in a large radius when it's activated

you can even use pincushion like you would ricochet--leave the shield in the enemy until pincushion triggers, then activate it by recalling the shield

[lament lotus]

It's also way more efficient at completing the mastery challenge.

[lament lotus]

Now I'm curious about trying that myself.

[harsh egret]

i love pincushion, i use the shredder more than stuff like rl/gl atm lol

im pretty good with that weapon icl

[wooden dock]

just encountered a glitch in the forge level where my secret key dissapeared after respawn for some reason, encouter to get it was bugged too. seems like the level save got corrupted somehow

[green estuary]

ancestral forge is super buggy rn for whatever reason

[lament lotus]

Have you tried restarting the level?

[wooden dock]

yeah but its a new save so it resets all my progress, unfortunate but its still a fun level i guess

[lament lotus]

I used to have fun in Ancestral Forge. Then they added that infinitely respawning arachnotron.

[green estuary]

it's honestly not even that bad

they take like 2 seconds to kill and then you get back to 1v1ing the agaddon

[lament lotus]

My big issue with the arachnotron is the mines it launches. I step too close to one and I'm down to five hp instantly.

[green estuary]

would have been way cooler if they just put a bunch of heavies you had to kill in order to get the agaddon though

[sudden stump]

Man I f****** hate the mines

[green estuary]

yeah
they can't drop them immediately on spawn, so you have time to shield bash into them

[lament lotus]

I really need to learn how to deal with the specific arachno in the first section of the forge. That jerk has killed three UN runs now.

[green estuary]

honest question
how do you get that far on a UN run but not know how to deal with an arachnotron quickly

[lament lotus]

I make them top priority. But that's hard when I have an aggadon on my ass.

[hearty edge]

holy shit the aggadon is huge https://doomwiki.org/w/images/7/75/DTDA-Size-Comparison-Agaddon-Hunter.jpg

[delicate grotto]

Any important tidbits from today’s stream?

[sudden stump]

For me is a mines rarely pop out, so when they do I almost never noticed before it's too late

[harsh egret]

#the-dark-ages message

[hearty edge]

aw nah the mines really mess me up

[lament lotus]

For some reason Doomguy loves pathing into the mines and dying instantly when I try to bash an arachnotron.

[harsh egret]

Fkin doomguy man... Smh

[hearty edge]

holy shit the vagary is huger https://doomwiki.org/w/images/9/9a/DTDA-Size-Comparison-Vagary.jpg

[lament lotus]

I know it's probably a skill issue, but even when I jump over them they go off.

[hearty edge]

that always happens to me too

1 second later and shield gon+

[harsh egret]

I always shield bash into arachnotrons even when they do the land mines and i rarely take dmg from them anymore

[green estuary]

nah that's just how they work
they're proximity based so if you get within a certain distance of them they explode
thankfully their activation range is larger than their blast radius though

[harsh egret]

Cuz u just shield bash past them so its just... Adios

[sudden stump]

my biggest skill issue since the patch was the optional Komodo encounter on spire, not impossible but you would not want to run into that blind on UN

[wispy night]

Pretty fun presets. "Oops. All Leaders" was the hardest

[frail bloom]

Me personally I found melee army the hardest

Damn my Archie animation is getting so cool

[frank turtle]

I'll try em out samir

the presets

[frail bloom]

Yipee

Try all nine they're fun

[harsh egret]

Now we need someone to do max caco setup

(fuck the cacos)

[frail bloom]

Hell nah

I tried that with 6 acolytes and 3 cosmic barons

[wispy night]

It's doable just not fun

[frail bloom]

For a cosmic realm set

[harsh egret]

Oh im sure lol

[frail bloom]

But it plays like aids

[harsh egret]

Samir brother what

[wispy night]

It's all just "spawn kill the cacos"-the wave

[frail bloom]

You heard me

[harsh egret]

Just reading those its enough for me to not even wanna test that

I have 2 acolytes on mine and it becomes pretty chaotic

1 wave
10 soldiers
15 heated metal soldiers
5 energy shields
2 chaingunners
2 nightmare imps
2 armored arachno
1 mancubus leader
1 revenant leader
1 whiplash
2 acolytes

Here if ppl wanna give it a try

[frail bloom]

What's the name

[harsh egret]

Idk i dont have one xd

[wispy night]

I set 3 aggadon champions for the first preset by accident and I said "that Aggadon is kicking by butt tf?" Then at the 3rd attempt I realized it and got it after reverting to 1 aggadon champion

[harsh egret]

Lmfao

[frail bloom]

0/10

[harsh egret]

[frank turtle]

the champion one was fire

[frail bloom]

Wut abt the other 8

[harsh egret]

Halfawake try mine now cuz ik its better than samirs

[frail bloom]

My sec fave is plutonia

[frank turtle]

Haven't done those yet

[frank turtle]

Ok

I'll do all leaders after

[harsh egret]

[frail bloom]

Don't listen to him

[frank turtle]

I want some really hard ones

[frail bloom]

I'm the best in the preset market

[frank turtle]

cuz I don't use bfc

[frail bloom]

Try "melee army" "all leaders" and "plutonia"

[harsh egret]

REALLY hard ones... Well fuck then

I think its challenging idk

[frail bloom]

Give it a naaame

It needs a standout name

[harsh egret]

Does it

[frail bloom]

Yes.

So you can address them easier

Otherwise you would just say Hato's preset

What if you made several

[harsh egret]

"Double acolyte and friends"

https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-minions-popcorn-day-laugh-gif-5026739

Maybe theres a reason i dont have a name for it, cuz i cant come up with anything

[wispy night]

I had some really tough but fun ones, I think it involved several waves of full imp stalkers, full 9 pinkies, hell knights, full cosmic barons, revenants, and armored mancubus. Pretty much everything that shoots parriable projectiles. Use the fissure rune and go to town in Ry'uul

[frail bloom]

Cuz I'm better

[harsh egret]

Mhm..

[frail bloom]

I'm kidding

We're buddies

[frank turtle]

I liked it, but it might need an extra 1 or 2 big enemies

[harsh egret]

Right, noted

[harsh egret]

What rune and melee did u use on it btw

[frank turtle]

I used ground fissure

I've been trying it out lately

for the extra armor

[harsh egret]

I had a harder version before this but it kicked my ass for like 15 attempts, this one took me 8 or 9 i think

Guess i just gotta git gud

[frank turtle]

heaven splitter and ground fissure are my favorites rn

[harsh egret]

Same

[frank turtle]

I used to use daggers alot but I think they nerfed em

[harsh egret]

I like the cc runes

Anyway gotta sleep see y'all

[frail bloom]

Bya

Gn

[frank turtle]

Cya hato

[solid nacelle]

What if they buffed coyote time by letting you completely change direction midair

[wispy night]

Here's a tougher one:
2 respawn waves of:
6 imp stalkers
3 hell knights
3 battle knights
3 pinky riders
3 armored pinky riders
3 pinky rider leaders
3 armored mancubus
3 revenants
3 whiplash
3 cosmic barons

I recommend City of Ry'uul

[green estuary]

you mfs are crazy

[frail bloom]

I'm not crazy

3 barons are very maneagable

I personally use heaven splitter, dreadmace and the parry rocket

Makes mincemeat of all three

[frank turtle]

I'll try it out

[frail bloom]

Y'all should give your presets names

[frank turtle]

rocket is very useful if you're pressured by multiple heavy demons

[green estuary]

heaven splitter is basically a cheat code in big arenas tbf

[frail bloom]

Ye I put a lot of those in my presets

[frank turtle]

you guys think they'll update the ripatorium for atlan and dragon fights

[frail bloom]

Lots of imp stalkers, armored mancubi, battleknights, pinky riders

[frank turtle]

I could see atlan but idk about dragon

[frail bloom]

No there is barely any enemy variety in either

Would be so stale

[frank turtle]

True I mean I'd probably barely play it unless the dlc adds alot of new stuff

[frail bloom]

I hope dlc adds an archvile

Then I can update my Plutonia preset

[wispy night]

I'll name that one Merry go Parry

[frail bloom]

For now the acolyte leader has to do

[frail bloom]

Very catchy

[frank turtle]

and pain elementals

for lost soul spam

[frail bloom]

WE'RE MISSING LOST SOUULS

HUGO WHYYYYY

FIRST IT HAS NO TOY, NOW THIS

AND NO ONE CAAAAAARES

[upbeat junco]

writing this evil text down

[frank turtle]

i feel like pain elemental has a good chance of returning. but supposedly they were a nightmare to code in eternal

[upbeat junco]

You could say they were an element of pain to code I'll seek myself out dw

[frank turtle]

good one

someone should make a preset where it's just all fodder and you're mowing them down with the pulverizer

grass cutting simulator

[upbeat junco]

10 waves of fodders

[frail bloom]

Yo bro I have 8 more presets for you to play

If you want

[upbeat junco]

Sure

[frail bloom]

Alr prepare

(2)"Demon war" loadout:

5 heated/unheated metal shield soldiers(10 total)
5 energy shield soldiers
9 imps
6 imp stalkers
3 hell knights
3 battle knights
3 pinky riders
3 armored pinky riders
3 arachnotrons
3 armored arachnotrons
3 mancubi
3 mortar mancubi
3 armored mancubi
1 revenant
2 vagaries

(3)"Melee Army" loadout:

20 zombies
15 heated metal shield soldiers
5 energy shield soldiers
6 imp stalkers
3 hell knights
3 battle knights
3 battle knight leaders
3 cosmic barons
1 agaddon hunter

(4)"Siege Battalion" loadout:

20 zombies
10 heated metal shield soldiers
10 energy shield soldiers
3 imps
6 imp stalkers
3 pinky riders
3 armored pinky riders
1 cyberdemon leader
2 vagaries
1 vagary champion

(5)"Plutonia" loadout:

20 soldiers
10 heated metal shield soldiers
5 unheated metal shield soldiers
5 energy shield soldiers
3 chaingunners
6 imp stalkers
1 nightmare stalker
3 pinky riders
1 arachnotron
3 revenants
2 revenant leaders
1 acolyte leader

(6)"Superheavy pot" loadout:

15 heated metal shield soldiers
15 unheated metal shield soldiers
5 energy shield soldiers
6 stone imps
6 imp stalkers
3 battle knights
2 pinky riders
3 armored mancubi
1 cyberdemon
1 Cosmic baron
1 agaddon hunter
1 komodo
1 vagary

(7)"Prehistoric pressure" loadout:

10 zombies
10 soldiers
10 heated metal shield soldiers
5 unheated metal shield soldiers
5 energy shield soldiers
3 pinky riders
3 armored pinky riders
3 pinky rider leaders
3 whiplashes
2 komodoes
1 komodo leader
1 komodo champion

(8)"Oops! All leaders!" loadout:

20 zombies
10 soldiers
10 heated metal shield soldiers
10 unheated metal shield soldiers
2 imp stalkers
1 battleknight leader
1 pinky rider leader
1 mancubus leader
1 revenant leader
1 acolyte leader
1 cyberdemon leader
1 agaddon leader
1 komodo leader

(9)"Babylon Brigade" loadout:

Respawn count: 3

30 soldiers
10 heated metal shield soldiers
5 energy shield soldiers
3 chaingunners
9 imps
2 cyberdemons
1 cyberdemon leader

[frank turtle]

"all fodder no breaks"

[frail bloom]

Phew and with no breaks in between

[upbeat junco]

Oops. All. Leaders. :1000yardstare:

[frail bloom]

It's not as bad as it sounds

Just one leader of each enemy type

[frank turtle]

fuck I died in un

ripatorium time I guess

[frail bloom]

Yipee

If you want I have a bunch you can use

Ye I am passing these around

Ripatorium is fun and ppl will see why

[frank turtle]

I'll do leaders

what map do you have in mind?

[frail bloom]

City of Ry'uul

Or whatever it is

Most of them I tested it on there

You could do harbor of souls as well

[wispy night]

Would be fun if you could go over the current limit of 30 for example. Too many waves usually ends up in waiting for a handful of spawners as they trickle in

[frail bloom]

Or khalim but I reccommend the cosmic realm map

[frail bloom]

Ye I'd like a qol feature to be able to have 60 of the same demon

Most likely will happen near future

[delicate grotto]

Sick presets @frail bloom

[frail bloom]

You played them all?

Or just some

[delicate grotto]

Nah but I’m going to

I just think they sound fun

[frail bloom]

Ye they're pretty fun

Not overtly challenging

And they're cool to fight in cuz of some standout enemy placement or theme

I can't wait for the real professionals to share some cool presets when the community tab is released

Whoever they may be

[delicate grotto]

I’ve got a pretty challenging one myself. Took me hours to beat it but I’m only half decent at the game. Lmk if you wanna try it out. Some others have tried it but idk if anyone aside from me has beat it (without using the BFC that is).

[delicate grotto]

Yeah I really like the themes you got going on

[frail bloom]

Hours!!*

[delicate grotto]

Yes lol

[frail bloom]

Well post it in

[delicate grotto]

At least 2-3 hours

[frail bloom]

Let's see

I saved all of my presets I reccommend y'all save yours

Especially when you're pushing above 5 presets

[delicate grotto]

Very similar to one of yours actually. Leader themed.

10 zombies
15 heated shield soldiers
15 energy soldiers

3 Hell knights
1 Battle knight leader
3 pinkies
1 pinky leader
2 armored mancubi
1 mancubus leader
2 revenants
1 revenant leader

2 Cyberdemons
1 Cyberdemon leader
2 Komodos
1 Komodo leader

Difficult part is doing this without a super weapon, and the multiple Cyberdemons are a pain. You seem like a pretty good player though so I doubt it’ll trip you up as much as it did me.

[frail bloom]

Oh boi

Imma try it

[delicate grotto]

It’s surprisingly addicting to keep attempting. I had fun with it at least. Lots of opportunities to parry lol

[delicate grotto]

Good luck!

[frail bloom]

I might sleep soon so today or tommorrow

But I'll tell you when I beat it and how it went

Saleem.

Bet you can't beat my presets

[upbeat junco]

Samir you're breaking the car

[frail bloom]

Damn

[upbeat junco]

Text wall

[frail bloom]

Imma get chewed out

Nooooo I was just having fun

[upbeat junco]

"what are you doing, you'll be executed for this"
ehh more like chewed out, I've been chewed out before

[frail bloom]

[supple oracle]

Here a one not need a super weapons

10 zombies
10 blue shield soliders ( Powersurge heaven)

5 imp stalkers
2 HellKnights
1 Battleknight
2 Pinky Raiders
2 armored mancubi

2 Cosmic barons
1 cyberdemon(for ranged Pressure)

Extra difficulty:
1 Armored ArachnoBoi
1 Cacodemon

All about parrying and heavan spiltter

[frank turtle]

oh you asshole that was tough

[frank turtle]

oh boy

ripatorium is addicting ngl

[supple oracle]

Perfer Village of Khalim

[frail bloom]

Beat it

Second attempt

SUPER fun

Great job

[frail bloom]

Your turn Mr. Saleem

[supple oracle]

Oh boi

ok let see

[frail bloom]

See what

[delicate grotto]

Man what load out did you use? Took me forever. Felt like I had to get lucky with which projectiles came in at once

[frail bloom]

Imma beat your preset

[delicate grotto]

Nice job though! Glad you found it as fun as I did

[frail bloom]

Heaven splitter, parry rocket, dreadmace

My go to each time

[delicate grotto]

I barely used the vampirism rockets until my last 2 attempts where I beat it, so that was probably my issue lol. Nice!

[supple oracle]

Gonna give a try LOL

[civic rose]

man I just really wish there were presets or like a way to load community loadouts, maybe in-game voting or something. some good combos on here

[frail bloom]

I'm confused

[frail bloom]

Just set up the one's we send

I have like 9

(But yes they'll add community presets later on)

I did it Mr. Saleem

Easy pickins

Why the eggplant

Who did that??

[supple oracle]

That shit is cooked

been throwing in air all the time lol

[frank turtle]

this is so hard without the bfc

[frail bloom]

Maybe I am on crack

[frank turtle]

[frail bloom]

Dark ages is my Eternal

I'm the new M1

[delicate grotto]

Yes! But it’s possible! Use the vampirism rockets

[frank turtle]

aaaghhh I beat it finally

that was so intense

heaven splitter helped tremendously with the mace

[delicate grotto]

Shit you guys are cracked at this game. Or I’m just terrible lol
I played on some difficult settings though so I’ll give myself a pass

[frank turtle]

shits not easy man

that's the hardest one ive played so far

[dark thunder]

is the bullshit supershotgun thing fixed

[delicate grotto]

Yeah it’s pretty challenging, but it feels good to beat it. Theres enough projectiles to parry to keep you alive during the chaos

[delicate grotto]

Yes thankfully

[frank turtle]

ur gonna need to design some master levels

[delicate grotto]

Lmao, I’d love to
Too bad I’m stuck on console or else I would’ve tried my hand at modding Eternal

[dark thunder]

ok this is the hardest doom game they've made

when the fucking aggadon is throwing unblockable attacks when im close

[frank turtle]

I'm on console too!

aggadons don't play around lol

[rocky badger]

Thanks for the notes on Twitter @harsh egret . But really, they're nerfing Impaler again? I haven't played since the update, but the patch notes made it seem like it mostly got nerfed into the ground

[dark thunder]

did they actually make resurrection and reckoning harder

[obsidian shard]

They technically buffed it update 2

(more headshot damage)

[frank turtle]

does anyone know how to shield boost off enemies?

[dark thunder]

still feels like i cant block fast enough

[fervent cypress]

I’m about to finish the game

[hexed dagger]

they did fix it but they had to pull the fix because it made quick switching too good

[dark thunder]

oh yeah i saw a clip of that lol

[frank turtle]

Nice

Last couple levels are really good

[dark thunder]

more mission breaking bugs i cant even get to the kreed

[green estuary]

please don't tell me it's the blue wall

[dark thunder]

yeah

this is really frustrating

[green estuary]

istg why does nobody think to just shoot it with a plasma gun

[dark thunder]

bro

how are we supposed to know that

[green estuary]

I mean
blue shield = plasma rifle since eternal days

[dark thunder]

yeah but like come on

also didnt

also didnt expect that it was changed in the new update and mission breaking bugs like this were in eternal

well its not a bug but u know what i mean

[green estuary]

the same shield exists in the kreed bossfight
I'm like 90% sure they added it in because people weren't figuring out you needed to shoot kreed's shield with a plasma rifle

[dark thunder]

I knew about his shield i just wasnt expecting that u had to shoot it to get in

the first shield cause i was able to throw my shield through it and then when i reset it wasn't able to so I thought it was bugged

this is already a much better fight too lol

[frank turtle]

[frank turtle]

dw man that got me too

[dark thunder]

Like I knew you should damage his shield before but i didnt know about this

[patent cave]

i encountered the blue force field before the kreed fight in my pandemonium run

id have to restart the level and lose my progress, we are not doing that. i mantle teleported into the boss fight

[green estuary]

work harder, not smarter

[warm ibex]

bro could've just used the plasma rifle 😭

[uneven mortar]

Hugo says theyre gonna fix fodder enemies shooting through super heavies and killing you!!!

Like when you are brawling w a cyberdemon and soldier takes your last bit of health

[green estuary]

hallelujah
Projectiles that phase through other enemies are probably my biggest source of damage in this game

[patent cave]

usually plasmable shields are on enemies, not in the environment lmfao

[dark thunder]

why does the witch have a lowercase w in the final fight

[sudden stump]

though they did do that turret with a shield on mars core master level, people were confused by that too lol

[wooden dock]

I thought there was a tutorial message when you reach that part in the kreed ship

smth like "plasma weapons destroy energy sheilds faster than any other weapon"

[wheat sigil]

@frail bloom definitely thought the plutonia preset was harder than the melee army

got through melee army quite easily by just parrying everything and using the rocket launcher

plutonia i first beat when i accidentally stumbled across the acolyte before it could take its shield up lol

[calm fulcrum]

ive got this bug where on the main campaign my weapon switch is basically instant its the weapon animation sped up by like 500%

[teal harbor]

Do you think we would ever get like a atlan wave survival mode or something? Or something with the dragon? Because ik he died but I really hope there's more missions with both of them

[deep zealot]

who plays doom on ps5?

[teal harbor]

Me

[deep zealot]

tda?

[teal harbor]

Hm?

[deep zealot]

the dark ages?

= tda

[teal harbor]

Oh! Yes I beat it a while back

[deep zealot]

oh nicee

[teal harbor]

It was very fun to the point where I just had to 100% it

[deep zealot]

oh nicee

i have only played eternal, planning to play the one before it someday

after backlogs cleared

[teal harbor]

You got a play 2016 and tda

[deep zealot]

ya

see dm if ur free

[wintry nexus]

@delicate grotto that preset with NO bfg was impossible, I don’t know how you did it

[solar cairn]

We expect a new patch in early September

[harsh egret]

do we?

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819

[calm fulcrum]

is chain shot and flail the best for armour breaking now

[rocky vector]

Dreadmace

[calm fulcrum]

i dont wanna use it

[rocky vector]

Hydrogen bomb

[calm fulcrum]

too op

[signal glen]

Definitely play 2016. You can skip tda

[deep zealot]

Really ?

[wintry nexus]

He shouldn’t skip it

[deep zealot]

Tda? I thought it looked cool

[wintry nexus]

Because it is

But play it after you finish 2016 since you’re playing the games In backwards

[deep zealot]

Oh

Is it related to 2016?

I thought it was standalone

[wintry nexus]

Tda is a prequel to 2016

And yes

It’s related, canon, and not a standalone

[deep zealot]

Oh

If its a prequel should i not play it before

2k16

[wintry nexus]

I don’t understand what you mean

You started on eternal, right?

[deep zealot]

If tda is a prequel. , should i not play tda before 2016

Yes i played eternal

[wintry nexus]

Play 2016, then play tda

[uneven mortar]

SSG is still fixed right

[deep zealot]

Alrr

[wintry nexus]

To me it is

[uneven mortar]

Always watch/play things in release order, stories aren't necessarily supposed to be experienced chronologically

[wintry nexus]

Yup

[uneven mortar]

All 3 new dooms are worth your time, play them in release order and skip the 2nd doom eternal DLC if you feel like it

[deep zealot]

I dont have any dlc in eternal

I just played base

[uneven mortar]

The first DLC is a very good challenge imo

[wintry nexus]

lol, do you hate TAG 2?

[uneven mortar]

Not exactly, but I don't think it's a great closer to the game mechanically. It's a weirdly easy note to end on, though it has some cool ideas

[wintry nexus]

Fair enough

[uneven mortar]

I do however hate davoth. Maybe the most disappointing boss fight of all time for me

[wintry nexus]

That’s a little bit of an exaggeration but sure

It is disappointing tho

That’s for sure

[uneven mortar]

I honestly can't think of a boss I was more upset about

[wintry nexus]

But Covid and stuff didn’t really help

[uneven dragon]

i think it's better to play TDA after 2016 and Eternal tbh

[uneven dragon]

i didnt really mind his bossfight it just couldve been more but its serviceable idk i find the dance fun

[the penultimate boss of TDA] felt like a better riff on the concept

[uneven mortar]

100% the TDA bosses felt like really good iterations of the concept

[scenic lichen]

Tbh I loved all TDA bosses, they’re easily the best in the series for me

[harsh egret]

Hoping maybe in the next game that we get unique bosses spread out throughout the game instead of the marauder/komodo/aggadon etc with the unique bosses at the end of the game

Like how the gladiator is around the mid point of eternal

[solemn mauve]

No it's not, ID has reverted the changes cuz of the quick swap exploit, they are going to slightly buff the SSG and fix the shield blocking after shooting

[delicate grotto]

Took me hours honestly. Some people beat it last night within 30 minutes somehow
Don’t know what settings they were on though.
Use the vampirism rockets. I beat it in 2 tries after I switched to that loadout, and the others who beat it relied on that method too. It’s the only way lol

[wintry nexus]

Maybe it’s because i lowered the dmg i did to demons and increased the dmg to slayer

But still

Even after i adjusted it

Maybe i’m an old lady now lol

Games are too hard

[delicate grotto]

Lmao. Nah it’s hard as shit. I was surprised how some players were able to do it. Samir and halfawake are just cracked at the game. You also got to get a little lucky to beat it.

[wintry nexus]

Dude

I’ve been trying for a day

[delicate grotto]

Again tho I’m not sure what settings they were on. I assume normal NM. I like to chalk up my struggle to the fact I was playing on increased settings lol

[wintry nexus]

Like maybe 6 - 7 hours or something

[harsh egret]

send it to me, i wanna try it

[delicate grotto]

Yeah it took me at least 3

[wintry nexus]

Yup

That tells me everything

I’m old

[solemn mauve]

Ok I'll bite, I'll try doing it too, what preset is it Elemental?

[harsh egret]

hahah

[delicate grotto]

Hell’s Leaders

10 zombies
15 heated shield soldiers
15 energy soldiers

3 Hell knights
1 Battle knight leader
3 pinkies
1 pinky leader
2 armored mancubi
1 mancubus leader
2 revenants
1 revenant leader

2 Cyberdemons
1 Cyberdemon leader
2 Komodos
1 Komodo leader

Good luck! No BFC. Recommend using vampirism rockets. There’s plenty of opportunities to parry and survive. You just gotta be aggressive and smart with it.

[harsh egret]

dayum alr

[solemn mauve]

I'll DM you my results once I'm done

With my difficulty sliders

[uneven mortar]

Whatttt 😢 😢 😢 i would much rather have had the quickswap exploit and a working gun for the time being

[solemn mauve]

Ok done, let me DM you my results and comments

[harsh egret]

bruh what

hopefully they add customizable waves cuz this is just not my jam lmao

its just too much at once lol

[delicate grotto]

Sick! Nice job

Yeah it’s definitely overwhelming. The shield soldiers are your lifeline. Especially using shield bounce on the energy soldiers to interrupt larger demons. Even with that it’s intense.

[harsh egret]

for me its more fun to go "do this wave, dont die, now do this one and dont die, now this even harder wave, dont die or u start all over!
like 10 waves like that that get progressively harder and harder would be cool

[delicate grotto]

Oh I absolutely agree. I can’t wait until they let us customize waves. This is the hardest preset I could make that was still possible enough for 1 wave.

[harsh egret]

felt also the lack of heat seeking parryable projectiles that makes it in some situations harder to find a parryable projectile to trigger shield runes

sure its part of the challenge im sure but yeah

[solemn mauve]

Thats what the ripatorium actually needs

[harsh egret]

and we will get that, we know that now

[solemn mauve]

True true

[harsh egret]

apparently could be pretty soon

hugo said they considered these things for launch, didnt say why they werent there but oh well lol

maybe just didnt get enough time to finish all these extra features

[delicate grotto]

Yeah a couple Imp stalkers would make a difference, but I was trying to stick to the theme of the preset. I getcha though

Also my excuse for not having Aggadons or Acolytes since 1 they’re not native to Hell and 2 it wouldn’t even be remotely fun atp.

[harsh egret]

acolytes would not be it in this one for sure

[solemn mauve]

Acolyte

[harsh egret]

acolytes are fun in setups where u dont get bodyblocked alot

[delicate grotto]

Yeah. I did a preset that was mostly ranged demons and the acolytes are surprisingly a nice addition to the battle

[harsh egret]

yup

[brazen vortex]

The wait for dlc is agonizing

And the master level wait is even MORE agonizing

[stiff ice]

Ok theres something i need to know

Why is the kreed maykr made out of worms?

[frank turtle]

hi chat

[solemn mauve]

Good question

[solemn mauve]

Hey bro

[alpine pilot]

Where doom

[frank turtle]

[solemn mauve]

WHOM DOOM!

[alpine pilot]

That's my boy

[solemn mauve]

[frank turtle]

apparently the concept art for the dlc could be inspiration from the 9th circle of hell from Dantes inferno

that'd be really really cool if they were levels of hell throughout the dlc

[solemn mauve]

That snow concept art, from Hugo's livestream?

[frank turtle]

Yup

[solemn mauve]

Interestiiiiiiiiing

[warm ibex]

I've cooked up another ripatorium loadout...

I'm not sure if the community is ready for this one

[frank turtle]

Ooo

let's see it 👀

[solemn mauve]

[silent surge]

3 super heavy versions of me and 30 fodder of you with 1 of @wicked abyss that sits and spawns in the corner and a Mayo that hovers over the arena, while the floor is Josh and skybox is Hugo’s smiling face

done. that’s it, boys and girls, shut it down, we got it done

[solemn mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-risa-risitas-laught-jaja-gif-14980369

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-peak-biggest-piece-of-peak-dwayne-johnson-gif-15045312346835955402

[grizzled thicket]

https://tenor.com/view/thisiswhatifeel-gif-15343915694470824979

[silent surge]

just slap my pfp on a cosmic baron and horde’s on a komodo

that smiling face who won’t stop swinging

[supple oracle]

Take Cover Preset

10 Imp stalkers
10 Soilders (normal ones)

2 Battleknights
3 Arachnoboi
2 Mancubi
2 Mancubi Armored
1 Arachnoboi Armored
2 revenant
3 Pinky jocky

2 Cyberdemon
2 cacodemons
1 vagary

[harsh egret]

max imp stalkers is 6

[supple oracle]

That sucks

it should be 20 max LOL

[harsh egret]

should definitely be more than 6

[supple oracle]

6 fine

[harsh egret]

i love the bug where normal vagaries sometimes are vagary champions instead

[hard thistle]

Vagaries always have big health so i never notice this bug lol. Or it may have never happened to me

how would you tell the difference?

[harsh egret]

just by the gold armor

[green estuary]

vagary champions have unbreakable gold armor

also, speaking of which, agaddon leaders/champions actually have less HP than normal agaddons

[warm ibex]

Horde Mode Gaming presents... "Oops! Ten Zombies!"

Time Limit - 20 Minutes

Difficulty - Aspiring Slayer

Demons - 10 Zombies

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-17729711691959966457

[solemn mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-man-write-gif-4225404631001127803

[frank turtle]

Ugh don't even post a preset if you can't even beat it 🙄

[warm ibex]

Alternate name - "I pressed start on accident"

[solemn mauve]

Ikr

[frank turtle]

my game force restarted and now I have the delayed ssg

[solemn mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/mets-baseball-homerun-gif-12571819431418851501

[wheat sigil]

sad day

[frank turtle]

devo should play ultra nightmare at 50% game speed

[wheat sigil]

now you're down here with the rest of us peasants

[warm ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-gif-26333574

[frank turtle]

WE HAD A GOOD THING HUGO

[green estuary]

no we didn't

[solemn mauve]

[frank turtle]

game is perfect now

[solemn mauve]

Hehe

[dapper agate]

For steam I can’t get the melee, shield and weapon upgrades achievement(basically all the three), is there a way to fix this?

[hearty edge]

idk how but i got the one for all the upgrades before getting all the upgrades

so i had like the opposite issue

[dapper agate]

Ohh

For me berserker, melee expert isn’t working 💔✌️

[hard thistle]

Fr. How can they just force the tunable on us. that is so oppressive😭😭😭

[hearty edge]

ok but the cycler is actually like good

i still like the accelerator more but i never used the cycler before

[green estuary]

the cycler is honestly better than the accelerator

accelerator has higher raw single target dps, but the shock effect combined with the falters is just so strong

you can literally stunlock an agaddon provided you set it up correctly and there are enough enemies in the arena

[sudden stump]

Does the shock from cycler stack with shock from the gauntlet?

[green estuary]

no

both make enemies take 20% extra damage I believe

[hard thistle]

the only special effect cycler shock has over the other shocks(gauntlet, and lightning rune) is the arc lightning. but the damage debuff is same

what i'd like to know is if cycler+constant shock debuff on a single target does more damage than just the accelerator firing at full power(red)

[calm fulcrum]

can u even use the SSG against aggadons and cyber demons now?

[green estuary]

I mean yeah it's possible
but shooting in between parries is very risky

[wheat sigil]

for a consisten experience? no
if you can? yes

rocket with empowered shots after parries is reallyyy good against any superheavy though

free heal and tons of damage

[vast tiger]

Best game of 2025

[next thistle]

TDA is OP

[grim cloud]

imagine adding invasions to ripatorium. I know masochist, but imagine it.

[fleet spruce]

That sounds kinda fun actually

[wooden dock]

They nerfed ssg?

[dapper agate]

Is there any way to fix berserker and melee expert achievement?(im on steam and i unlocked every upgrade)

[wind dew]

My Dark Ages Mini Slayer has arrived!!

[vague sinew]

Why do they keep nerfing the sag

[solemn mauve]

Ikr, im so tired of it

[fleet spruce]

Yeah, it went from historically most devastating version of it to barely serviceable in few updates, honestly just Reaver Chainshot or do headshots with Impaler

[wooden dock]

Damn, I loved playing around with it in this game too

Probably my favorite iteration of it since doom 2

[fleet spruce]

iirc someone made mod to revert the nerfs? never bothered to look for it but heard it few times around here

[harsh egret]

Chillax they are gonna fix the bugs and buff it a lil soon

[green estuary]

Yes I did
It’s on nexus for all the pc folks

[lament lotus]

I gave this some practice, and have come to the conclusion that pincushion is better for large bursts of damage, and Ricochet is more ammo efficient.

[solar cairn]

lil soon

[green estuary]

Ammo efficient I can buy
But you’re rarely constrained for rail spike ammo in TDA anyways

[green estuary]

If anyone’s interested
https://www.nexusmods.com/doomthedarkages/mods/43

[harsh egret]

?

[solar cairn]

Sounds funny

[hard thistle]

Chaingunner nerf is Up - https://fixupx.com/BethesdaSupport/status/1956470342227988533

Bethesda Support (@BethesdaSupport)

ℹ #DOOM: The Dark Ages deployed a small tunable update to the Chaingunner enemy AI:
︀︀- Increased cooldown between burst fire attacks
︀︀- Shortened duration of burst fire attacks

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FixupX · Aug 15, 2025, 9:37 PM

still no ssg fix

[solemn mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-mad-sad-gif-14324174

[sudden stump]

They probably can't do a proper fix with tunables

[frail bloom]

Alr imma try making some presets today

Best in the market💯

I'm kidding y'all have super fun one's too

Someone should make a ripatorium presets vid

Top 15 best presets to play

(I obviously have all mine there )

[mental grotto]

Would be cool if there were a way for us to share presets and paste them into the game. Maybe each one has a code or something?

[frail bloom]

I think hugo wants to do that

Says it's an obvious win or something

[simple mist]

its still really good

shield bash into ssg can straight up spawnkill alot of annoying enemies

[hearty edge]

I still like it but they did make it worse

Honestly my biggest complaint is the bug with the shield

[hearty edge]

Haven't tried but it's probably not it

[green estuary]

Problem is that every early game heavy has arbitrary damage mitigation against it

And it does basically no damage to armor now aside from shield soldiers which can basically be heated up with any weapon anyway