the-dark-ages

[raw slate]

What time

[harsh egret]

1 am cest

[raw slate]

W

[harsh egret]

6 pm ct

hoping for more info on the ripatorium and maybe another dlc tease 👀

i think we might get smth

[vital rapids]

2300 zulu. we need to get some "master levels when" (edit: ) placards made up for the stream

[harsh egret]

lmao yes

i got a feeling that what ng+ is

so i doubt its coming before update 3 probably late september/october

[vital rapids]

holy mandela effect batman. Apparently that word has always been spelt placard
looks around at this universe suspiciously

[harsh egret]

[teal spire]

They really upped the difficulty in the recent patch, i was doing another run of resurrection and it was substantially more difficult

[green estuary]

Updated resurrection has so many good fights

And one fight that’s absolute bullshit, but we don’t talk about that one

[harsh egret]

i heard some people say some fights just became tedious or smth with all the maintains now

i got to hellbreaker so far on my playthrough after the update and so far im loving the encounters

[calm tangle]

https://www.playstationtrophies.org/news/doom-the-dark-ages-dark-souls-fantasy-influence/

Can anyone confirm this? Did anyone at id software say that from soft games inspired doom tda?

[wanton nimbus]

god i HATE that you cannot block as soon as possible after some actions, like reload actions take priority

[wheat sigil]

yup same

[harsh egret]

not sure if its a bug or not but i also couldnt block at one point while spamming the shredder and throwing my shield, after i get the shield back i couldnt block until i stopped shooting the shredder

well obv it was a bug but..

[ebon shale]

The creative director Hugo definitely said he is a big Elden Ring Fan, but I can't recall if he also took inspiration from it

[calm tangle]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-throw-away-brain-spongebob-gif-8612783

I cannot escape FromShit anywhere I go

[grizzled thicket]

Your opinion

[frank turtle]

anyone have some tough ripatorium presets

[harsh egret]

bruh what

have u played katsu's

[frank turtle]

no

[harsh egret]

Cyberdemon leader + komodo + cosmic baron
imp stalker x4 + hell knight x2 + battle knight x1
one of each pinky/armored pinky arachnotron/armored arachnotron and mancubus/armored mancubus
whiplash x1 + revenant x2
zombie x10 + soldier x10 + heated/unheated shield soldier x5 + chaingunner x1 + imp x3

i felt it was pretty tought

[frank turtle]

I'll try dat

[manic marsh]

Hello PATrick

[green estuary]

feels bad man

[frank turtle]

so many projectiles katsu

[fluid nacelle]

is there any way to unbug steam achievements

[hard thistle]

yes, i had this happen also. consistently. they need to fix all of these shield related bugs, it's quite annoying

[upbeat junco]

this was definitely one of the presets but i enjoyed it

[harsh egret]

doesnt happen too often to me, had it happend twice

[upbeat junco]

....for the most part

[harsh egret]

but i agree

[frank turtle]

it was pretty fun, the cyber demon added alot of pressure

[upbeat junco]

it was pretty fun it felt so good to smack komodo with the mace after every restart

[green estuary]

That’s the idea

Projectiles = rune procs = neuron activation

[frank turtle]

[solar cairn]

Is the stream expected tomorrow?

I thought they were on the schedule only before QuakeCon

[delicate grotto]

Unsure myself

This setup is borderline impossible without the BFC, at least on my upped Nm settings. If anyone wants to try their hand at it, here’s the preset. It’s oddly addicting to keep attempting though, imo.

10 zombies, 10 heated shields, 10 energy shields
3 HKs, 1 leader knight, 3 pinky riders, 1 pinky leader, 2 armored mancubi, 1 leader mancubus, 2 revenants, 1 leader revenant

2 Cyberdemons
1 Cyberdemon leader
2 Komodos
1 Komodo leader

[green estuary]

6 superheavies is a non-starter tbh

[wind dawn]

it takes me 5 tries to beat 1 wave of such an arena where i keep 1 of each heavy and superheavy demon (except the leaders/champions) without the BFC, i like spamming super shotgun

[green estuary]

3 cybers with hitscan and their mapwide spikes are probably impossible without the bfc even if you removed the other 3 superheavies lmao

[delicate grotto]

It’s not really supposed to be fair lol
Though it feels possible, especially when you get 10 back to back parries. Take out the supporting Cyberdemons and Komodos for a more balanced experience, that one is easily possible.

[delicate grotto]

Yeah pretty much

[green estuary]

I'll pass on this one thanks 😆

[delicate grotto]

Lmao

[green estuary]

anything beyond 3 superheavies in a single wave just devolves into shenanigans

unless you don't have many heavies, that is

[delicate grotto]

Yeah I tried setting up heated shield soldiers and energy shield soldiers to give you a fighting chance. I’ve nearly been able to beat it without the BFC, I do think it’s possible but it’s definitely headache inducing lol

Oddly fun in a way though

[silent trail]

I assume you're refering to the super shotgun

[delicate grotto]

I’m kind of thankful for the bug. I’ve been too locked into relying on the SSG. Now that I’m trying out some other gun combos I’ve been having a lot more fun with the combat than before.

[silent trail]

Ok, so the super shotgun not being able to be interrupted by blocking was a bug.

[solemn mauve]

Unironically it definitely does

[silent trail]

True, although I find myself doing that considering hellknights can't be one shotted anymore

[sudden stump]

Ideally you fire the SSG at hell nights after setting up the kill with something else

I mean it's still really good when you are in something's face but combat shotgun is better at farther range

[silent trail]

That Ironically wasn't the case in Eternal with the gatling shotgun

[merry sapphire]

is the hotfix out yet

[sudden stump]

Well most automatic weapons in eternal felt lackluster because of weapon swaps

[green estuary]

I mean both the ssg and the combat shotgun are terrible at long range
difference is just that the combat shotgun's falloff distance is marginally further than the SSG
except its base damage is so much lower than the SSG's that I wouldn't be surprised if the ssg actually dealt more damage at long range than the combat shotty did

[sudden stump]

Well yeah, you choose the shotgun where the most pellets will land

[green estuary]

so the ssg

[sudden stump]

Not at range, SSG whiffs most of the pellets at the longer ranges the combat shotgun is effective

[silent trail]

Also, in chapter 5, if you have tutorials off, you skip that first part which teaches you how the dragon sections work. That first section has a ship for you to kill. Doesn't the mean your missing out on that gold from destorying the ship? also you don't complete the challenge by destroying 3 ships as soon as you would before?

[sudden stump]

you can't get the first hellship with tutorials off no

[solemn mauve]

I've never seen the gold amount actually increase when destroying one demon ship, you should get more ships to complete the challenge though

[green estuary]

in all cases it's the ssg
exhibited by the fact that, even without its armor damage upgrade, the ssg heats up shields at a distance better than the combat shotgun does

[silent trail]

Does it not? I swear it gives you like 20 gold or something. It playes the gold sound from when you get a box of it.

[green estuary]

never checked my gold counter when I destroy that first ship
but wouldn't be surprised if id reused the effects from destroying a hell fighter even when it doesn't give any gold

did you read my message 😆

I specifically said "without its armor damage upgrade"

[sudden stump]

combat shotgun melts armor pretty fast for me so idk the difference

Mod swap speed is so fast imma just use both

[frank turtle]

is ground fissure even worth it for the armor?

[wheat sigil]

yes

[green estuary]

no

[harsh egret]

lmao

[wheat sigil]

you can get like 40 armor per fissure sometimes lol

[solemn mauve]

Duality of man

[wheat sigil]

that's stonks

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/hit-gif-16251834564025842560

[delicate grotto]

It doesn’t. I would know, I tried finding 5 gold pieces I missed in Spire of Nerathul for hours and even checked those Hell Fighters to see if they rewarded gold or not. They don’t. As Katsu stated it just reuses the gold visual and VFXs on destroyed.

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/youknow-you-gif-19056787

[solemn mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/hit-gif-16251834564025842560

[green estuary]

lemme check the numbers on ground fissure rq

every heavy/superheavy demon that gets hit drops 4 armor, and every fodder demon drops 2

so you can get 40 armor if you end up hitting 5 heavies and 10 fodder

it's fine but I don't really see how it's better than heaven splitter

[frank turtle]

fuck it I'm gonna use ground fissure and mace

[green estuary]

although now that I think about it, ground fissure is probably the best armor generation option

[wispy night]

What map?

[green estuary]

that is, you're giving up the least by using it

[frank turtle]

not mace i mean flail

[green estuary]

well the flail really isn't worth it lmao

[frank turtle]

flail and mace

[green estuary]

huh

[frank turtle]

omfg

[solemn mauve]

Are you half awake?

[frank turtle]

FLAIL AND GROUND FISSURE

[frank turtle]

YES

[solemn mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/risitas-yes-giggle-gif-13898844

[wheat sigil]

i'm doing rhe same, but in reality mace would be a better option lol

[frank turtle]

losing my mind

[green estuary]

ground fissure is actually pretty good as far as runes go
whereas the flail is just ass and the combat shotgun is mediocre at best

so if you're gonna use one of the three for armor it might as well be ground fissure

except against bosses--auto turret actually kinda messes them up

[wheat sigil]

the csg will always be applicable though

[solemn mauve]

Speaking about Mace and ground fissure, before this patch you could literally abuse ground fissure to quickly recharge your Mace charges (you can check underthemayo) it was broken lmfao.

[green estuary]

yeah it's good ig if you're using it for fodder cleanup

[silent trail]

Ah ok, thank you for clairifying.

[delicate grotto]

I’ve tried it on both the Harbor of Souls and Cosmic Realm map. It’s a bit easier with the Cosmic map, imo. Still, it’s unfair. It’s a bit luck based honestly but it’s fun to attempt lol

[green estuary]

the cosmic map is best if you're gonna fill up the arena

also dark ages mod channel when

[delicate grotto]

Definitely the best of the 3

[frank turtle]

that resurrection gold encounter.. holy

Just pissed myself

[green estuary]

the one with the vagary and the 2 barons? absolute cinema

[frank turtle]

yeah that's some master level shit

this level way better now

[wheat sigil]

damn being very gay makes you immune to falters
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1188393862968922132/1405271941442703432/Screenshot_20250813_212823_YouTube.jpg?ex=689e38fb&is=689ce77b&hm=12f9f3033c7ea2a52e9b95f5ab150ff0f13524711532f125fcf5bc74d8269c6a&

watching mayo for info brings me back to when i just started eternal lol

[solemn mauve]

Yup he always says that

[sullen coral]

at first I wasn’t a huge fan bc it was too slow (to me) and then I found the game speed slider and it was a blast. definitely my favorite of the three

[delicate grotto]

Well I was referring to the Ripatorium maps but that as well, lol

[sullen coral]

rip

[frank turtle]

I've been playing 150% speed lately

[wheat sigil]

you like it?

[frank turtle]

I think 120 is the sweet spot

[frank turtle]

ya its fun and harder

[sullen coral]

Definitely

[silent trail]

I've been doing at 150%

[frank turtle]

150 is good if you've played the campaign before

[silent trail]

Yeah

[fleet spruce]

No wonder I was able to spam it without noticing that

[green estuary]

Same
120% speed and 300% damage is where it’s at

[solemn mauve]

Bonkers m8

[exotic bronze]

Wasssup I just joined

[green estuary]

Wassup man

[fleet spruce]

Dimension shattering repeated bonk technique

[delicate grotto]

For sure, feels like the pinnacle NM experience

Especially with tightest parry window

[solemn mauve]

Agreed

[wheat sigil]

that but 150 speed and second lowest parry is verifiably, objectively, demonstrably better

[green estuary]

🤓

[solemn mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/risitas-yes-giggle-gif-13898844

[wheat sigil]

what resource drop slider does everyone play on

[solid nacelle]

Lowest

[warm ibex]

second highest

[harsh egret]

3/5

[green estuary]

Second lowest

[harsh egret]

now we need a 5th guy who says on max

[green estuary]

Projectile speed maxed and resources lowest?
Holy shit that sounds like torture

[harsh egret]

i like 2nd max projectile speed

[frank turtle]

I think resurrection is broken for me, i killed all the maykr drones but this blue door won't open

so I can't access the kreed fight

[green estuary]

Me when the plasma rifle exists

Just shoot the door with a plasma rifle 😭

[harsh egret]

its ok, he's half awake

[solemn mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/risitas-yes-giggle-gif-13898844

[frank turtle]

BRO WHEN DID THEY ADD THAT

LMAOO OMG

[solemn mauve]

Since the latest patch

[green estuary]

If I had a dollar for every time somebody said resurrection was broken in this chat over the last week, I could buy another copy of TDA

[harsh egret]

lmao yep

[hearty edge]

it does give you gold but the indicator doesn't rise

[frank turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-the-dark-ages-launch-launch-the-true-melon-gif-15484408642892935923

[solemn mauve]

Ok...

[hearty edge]

r wait if you mean the actual gold gold in the top right then i'm not sure about the tutorial ship but afterwards i did get gold from destroying them

[grim cloud]

stream tommorrow right?

[hearty edge]

ssg fix plz

[frank turtle]

anyone notice how the atlan skins are just completely useless, the only chapter you actually have them in are chapter 3

[sudden stump]

damn the optional komodo encounter on spire really beat my ass a few times

[harsh egret]

yup

[sleek ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-the-dark-ages-doom-true-launch-the-true-doom-launch-the-true-gif-17039720600748597696

[upbeat junco]

this is gold

[frank turtle]

YO WAIT

THEY FIXED THE SSG BUG

@harsh egret @green estuary

[solemn mauve]

???

[frank turtle]

it's fixed for me

deadass

[green estuary]

Did they really

[solemn mauve]

Ok.... Hold up let me..... Launch

This better not be a joke

[silent surge]

felt fine to me now yep!

[frank turtle]

hell yeahhh THANK YOU HUGO

[solemn mauve]

Ok im beginning to believe

[silent surge]

yea no troll here

[solemn mauve]

Alrighty

[hard thistle]

Tunable???

[silent surge]

must be
on facebook yesterday hugo said “hot fix incoming”

[hard thistle]

sickkkkk. finally

i wish they'd release a patchnotes somewhere whenever they do these tunables though lol

it's like a mystery

[solemn mauve]

True

[frank turtle]

I swear they did whenever the game came out

then they stopped

[harsh egret]

sick

so it was a tunable

cuz i got no download

[solemn mauve]

You won't belive this

[harsh egret]

?

[solemn mauve]

You can quick swap the SSG without shield bashing

TRY IT OUT LMAO

[harsh egret]

w u t

cant rn '

[wheat sigil]

lmfaoo

[sudden stump]

tunable gods

[wheat sigil]

lol, i just tried to punch cancel due to sheer muscle memory

[green estuary]

you can take the guy out of eternal but you can't take eternal out of the guy

[wheat sigil]

kinda crazy how much the muscle memory sits after 1300 hours

[harsh egret]

bruh i need to try that later

[wheat sigil]

i've tried to ballista boost multiple times when spawning in

[harsh egret]

thats getting fixed tho surely

[green estuary]

what is

[wheat sigil]

ssg quick swaps

[green estuary]

wait you can cancel the reload animation by weapon switching now?
bruh

[frank turtle]

Holy shit

ssg rocket time

[solemn mauve]

Exactly

[harsh egret]

the quick swap ssg

[solemn mauve]

Dude am I in heaven

[frank turtle]

I'm literally quickswapping rn LMFAO

[harsh egret]

bruh

[green estuary]

id I can't believe you've done this

[solemn mauve]

I'll try to upload a video over here guys

[frank turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/wedding-crasher-hro-gif-25636997

[tidal lagoon]

Hey all. A fix has just been implemented for DOOM: The Dark Ages (all platforms) that resolved an issue that was preventing a Shield Block from interrupting the Super Shotgun reload animation on the intended frame. Please close and reopen the game to see the fix implemented!

[frank turtle]

Everything is perfect thank you

no more issues here

[wheat sigil]

ssg swaps are now like they used to be during shield swaps lol, and shield swaps have no effect on the ssg anymore

[upbeat junco]

holy fuck the SSG is so barack

[green estuary]

[solemn mauve]

SSG quick swap possible now

[upbeat junco]

i used to pray for times like this

[frank turtle]

you guys gotta see how fast it is on 150 speed

[wheat sigil]

the doom eternal brainrot prevails...

[harsh egret]

LMFAO

[solemn mauve]

Can you belive.. Such a tiny change and it makes a huge difference

[frank turtle]

it's insane

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/guaton-computadora-enojado-computer-rage-gif-14480338

[solar cairn]

Without a shield bash?

[solemn mauve]

Yes

[green estuary]

I'm actually so mad rn

[wheat sigil]

you can do shield swaps by holding m2 then punching too, but ye

[solar cairn]

[wheat sigil]

on a scale from 1 to 10 how intentional do you think it was

[solemn mauve]

666

[solar cairn]

Hasn’t the game become more casual now?

[solemn mauve]

Casual??? +

[green estuary]

10
I feel like they don't quite know how to bring back the old behavior, so they're just doing this as a placeholder so the block bug wouldn't persist

[solar cairn]

Well, the jerk of the shield was not always appropriate, which made you think and choose situations, and now you can just go through the weapons and cancel the reloading?

[upbeat junco]

ssg impaler wahoo

[hard thistle]

shh🤫 , i hope Hugo doesn't find out. they gonna patch it 😭😭😭

[solemn mauve]

No because

[solemn mauve]

I'm pretty damn sure it's intended

[wheat sigil]

they're gonna find out no mayyer what lol

[hard thistle]

i doubt. but hopefully

[solemn mauve]

Yeah ok, YALL Enjoy this, I'm outta here

[solar cairn]

Guys?

[harsh egret]

they prob already know

[hard thistle]

if it makes the game more fun and it's not broken, why would they remove it. ssg is already nerfed

they're just doing too much if they remove it

[solemn mauve]

Exactly

[solar cairn]

Because you can’t give quickswitch for nothing, it makes the game more casual

[frank turtle]

I need a mayo stream rn

[harsh egret]

lmao

[hard thistle]

you do realize there are sliders you can adjust if the game feels to casual for you right? and mindlessly quickswitching even if it were as fast in dda wouldn't get you very far like in eternal. because you need to be blocking sometimes, doom guy isn't as nimble, he can't double jump, dash, or meathook, so quickswitching constantly will leave your defense open. it should just be somethiog done once in a while for stylish/cool factor

[wanton nimbus]

dude is that one secret area in the unshackling thingy mission that has a caco, the komodo dude, and the armored hell knights even possible ?

its such a tiny area

[wheat sigil]

quick switching doesn't leave you vulnerable lol

you can just press m2 and pretty much insta block/parry

[wanton nimbus]

it kinda does tbh, weapon switching is quite slow, and you cant block during any of it

[wheat sigil]

but there are some delays when swapping

[wanton nimbus]

no u cant lol, you cant block for like over a second

which is more than enough time to eat shit

[solar cairn]

Before this patch, I chose when I wanted quickswitch: after ramming a shield/glory kill or just going through the guns, it made me think and adapt to the battle, now it’s the same boring constant sorting of guns as in the last game, If not even worse

[vivid umbra]

They added non glitched quickswitching?

[green estuary]

You can cancel a weapon switch to block. You used to not be able to, but now you can

[harsh egret]

wtf man

[green estuary]

This was one of the main changes update 2 made

[solar cairn]

Maybe I didn’t fully understand the essence of the innovation, but now it turns out that there is no usual weapon change and quickswitch always works if you just choose another gun?

[wanton nimbus]

whats the QUICKEST absolute QUICKEST non bfc way to take out a caco ?

[wheat sigil]

on 150% gamespeed, the largest delay you'll ever encounter is 0,5s, and that's only after the rocket launcher

all other weapon switch animations are significantly faster

[hard thistle]

2 options:

1. Don't use it the way which makes you feel casual
2. Adjust difficulty sliders
   Problem solved

[green estuary]

Parry charged rocket

And then a couple more rockets

[wanton nimbus]

parry charged rocket ?

oh wait the thongy i got u

[solemn mauve]

Cooked upgrade for rocket launcher

[wanton nimbus]

what if there arent any projectiles and i cant really wait for the caco to use one

[green estuary]

Idk just rocket him and hope he doesn’t instantly pull up his shield lmao

[solar cairn]

What do sliders have to do with it, if now quickswitch is automatically turned on?

[wanton nimbus]

im really tryin to do that one secret area that has the komodo, hell knights and the caco in a fuckin 4foot squared area

its impossible i fear

[solar cairn]

They simplified the key mechanics that previously made the player think at least

[green estuary]

Which level is this

[wanton nimbus]

uhhh how i check

without leaving that is

[wheat sigil]

what

[hard thistle]

sliders would make the game harder if it's too easy for you

[wanton nimbus]

its the one where you reawaken the sleeping boy in the soup

i have been on this longer than anythin else in the game

parry charged rocket lowkey did nothing, it didnt even make the caco look damaged

[solar cairn]

This is completely different, I already wrote that earlier the player had to THINK when to make a ram with a shield, so that quickswitch from the same ssg to another gun turned on, now it’s gone, the game lost in tactical depth

[harsh egret]

right, can someone summarize what is broken cuz im not home and i wanna make a post

[hard thistle]

oh is that what you mean? There is still way more tactical depth in the game if you ignore that mechanic. just watch underthemayo's recent video about faltering for example

[solar cairn]

From above I was told that now you don’t need to ram a shield to activate quickswitch and you can just go through the weapon, is that right?

[hard thistle]

Seems to be the case. i haven't had the chance to try it out

[green estuary]

Yeah you can just hold down mouse1 while using the shotgun and switch to say a rocket

[hard thistle]

But it doesn't remove depth from the game

[wheat sigil]

yeah you can animation cancel the ssg reload by default currently

[green estuary]

It absolutely does

[hard thistle]

there's still a lot of depth

[solar cairn]

How, if now you don’t have to think when you need to ram a shield, when you don’t need to?

[wheat sigil]

what

[solar cairn]

Before, you couldn’t change from ssg to rocket launcher quickly without a ram, now you can

[wheat sigil]

ye? so what

[harsh egret]

anyone

[solar cairn]

Well, the game takes away this choice from you

[hard thistle]

They way you are framing the argument makes it seem as if you ram the shield only for quickswitching.
When you see a spiderturret guy, ramming the shield into him is a viable strategy, when you're low on health, and a cosmic barron is pressuring you, ramming the shield into a far away fodder is a viable escape strategy. and so much more. So you are significantly reducing the shield's utility and complexity by making this claim

[wheat sigil]

when the glitch is slightly less useful😢

because shield swapping does still affect things

[solar cairn]

[solar cairn]

Well, then you need to test and see how it all works now

[frank turtle]

so the quick swap just works like a normal one right?

[raven vine]

update

[harsh egret]

update

[uneven mortar]

Update??

[green estuary]

update

[frank turtle]

update

[uneven mortar]

Is it out

[raven vine]

check steam

#checksteam

[harsh egret]

update

[frank turtle]

no update for xbox

[uneven mortar]

Just tell me!!

[green estuary]

yeah you can block while reloading with the ssg again
unfortunately you can also weapon switch while reloading, which is literally just eternal quickswitching all over again

[uneven mortar]

YAY

[frank turtle]

oh i thought yall meant an actual update

I'm kinda brain dead today

[raven vine]

unfortunately? 😅

launching game now to test it out

[frank turtle]

@wheat sigil since you started playing tda. how r u liking it?

[raven vine]

holy fuck

it’s literally eternal quick swapping LMFAO

maybe without the suit upgrade

but yeah this is base eternal swap mechanics

[mental grotto]

Seriously who is making these decisions, and why are they listening to the vocal minority of people who just want doom eternal 2 lol

[green estuary]

I doubt they're gonna leave it in honestly
like I said earlier, they probably don't know exactly how to fix the bug properly so they're using this as a placeholder so the ssg is useable again

[mental grotto]

Swap speed and mechanics were absolutely fine at launch save for feeling a bit clunky with the blocking (for which it took them 3 months to address), I just don’t understand it

[mental grotto]

Fair enough, I just feel that they’re backtracking with these changes yk?

[green estuary]

yeah well we'll have to see

[mental grotto]

True

DLC will add “quick swap rune” which increases your weapon swap speed by 900% and new item that gives you 3 dashes and double jump

[green estuary]

at least if you wanted to animation cancel in tda before, you had to shield throw or shield bash, which felt fairly natural with the game's mechanics
now it's just a carbon copy of eternal/2016 with the ssg which is just sad

[mental grotto]

Decisions like this definitely make me worried for the game’s future + DLC, feels like they’re listening to the wrong feedback. Don’t get me wrong most of the changes from update 2 were fantastic and definitely needed, but decisions like faster swap speed and adding respawning enemies to half the arenas just don’t really make sense to me. Now pretty much just enabling quickswapping, which really seems contrary to this game’s whole status quo. I dunno

Feels to me like backtracking and trying to make the game more like eternal

[harsh egret]

isnt the quick swap a bug

[raven vine]

it feels like a bug

an over correction for the ssg bug

[green estuary]

we don't know
I think it's only here until they find a permanent solution to the original ssg bug

[raven vine]

experimenting it with tho i love it

[harsh egret]

laughed my ass off at that bethesda guy posting the thing tho

when everyone is talking about how broken it is

[hard thistle]

can someone post a clip of what it looks like now?

[uneven mortar]

It seems unintentional

[mental grotto]

That’s fair enough. I’m at work I haven’t gotten a chance to play yet, just hearing about it

Definitely glad they fixed the ssg though, fighting any parry-heavy demon with the thing was a fucking drag after the update

[wheat sigil]

i like it for sure

if i was to compare it to eternal, i'd prefer eternal, mostly for personal preferenve but also for design choices

[frank turtle]

I just died on sgn ultra nightmare again bro imma crash out

[vague sinew]

Can someone post a clip about the quick swap bug? Can’t play rn but I’m interested

[wheat sigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1188393862968922132/1405318810629570720/DOOM_The_Dark_Ages_2025.08.13_-_23.18.23.180-1.mp4?ex=689e64a2&is=689d1322&hm=8520951f18b47665a42b9dee4e9054eb1aa59329396f283b34c6070c80f135b7&

[vague sinew]

Oh what the fuck lmao

No way

[wheat sigil]

that's on 150 gamespeed though

[harsh egret]

LMFAO

[wheat sigil]

only chabge to quick swaps was that you can swap away from the ssg immediately

[vague sinew]

It’s still crazy

I think it’s definitely a bug…in the clip it takes more time to lower the ssg bullet count than to quickswap it to another weapon. Slugs count on the ssg is defo a bit bugged when you quickswap

[raven vine]

“the dark ages isn’t doom eternal 2” mfs when i show them this update

[green estuary]

“the dark ages is eternal 2” mfs when they realize they have a shield

[vague sinew]

Inside you are two wolves: one is saying “dark ages is eternal 2” the other one is saying “the shield”

[wheat sigil]

lol you can barely move in the third dimension here, while aircamping is the dominant strategy in high level eternal gameplay

[green estuary]

yeah they’re not close at all

[raven vine]

holy christ i’m testing the quickswapping and lol just wow

SSG + Impaler and Impaler + Rocket launcher is currently going crazy

ts is hilarious

[unreal terrace]

"ts" in the big 28 is so glooby

[lavish kindle]

so nice of id to give us pb+rocket but with more swag (accounting for impaler arc)

[uneven mortar]

Siege 1 is lowkey one of the best FPS levels ever created

Scrounging up gold and beating fights to go back to the shrine feels so rewarding

[hearty edge]

lets go

[hearty edge]

i agree

probably in my top 5 of the campaign

[delicate grotto]

I fucking did it
No BFC, 120% speed, lowest parry on NM. Should’ve been using the rocket launcher’s heal more often, made it a lot more manageable.

I used the Ravanger and SSG mostly. Honestly didn’t really notice the bug at all? Though my shield rune could’ve been saving me.

[uneven dragon]

Oh that sucks

Glad I played and beat this game on launch :P

[wintry nexus]

Are you a grenade launcher kinda guy or a rocket launcher kinda guy

[uneven dragon]

Rocket launcher is the one with the vampire thing right

[green estuary]

Yep

[exotic bronze]

Yo anyone know how to get the doom tag

[upbeat junco]

im taking the rocket launcher to my grave

[wintry nexus]

YES

[upbeat junco]

absolutely adore that thing

[hexed dagger]

so the update is working for me

[wintry nexus]

Me too

[hexed dagger]

but no patch notes?

[wintry nexus]

Yea, I’m surprised too

[upbeat junco]

tunables change there's no need for a changelog

[hexed dagger]

its not in the tunables list

[raven vine]

doesn’t require a console certificate or whatever

meaning you don’t need to download the update to your client

[gray flower]

damn game look better without fog

[upbeat junco]

yea all you had to do was relaunch the game

[hexed dagger]

i know what the tunables are

but they have a list of active tunables and its missing

[harsh egret]

just checked the quick switching myself

wtf man xd

[upbeat junco]

yeah its funny

[green estuary]

It’s pretty stupid

[upbeat junco]

honestly im just happy i can finally parry without waiting for the reload

idm the quick switching its kinda whatever

[harsh egret]

yh im not gonna abuse this cuz i cba to play the game like eternal

[raven vine]

lol their active tunables page hasn’t updated since may 29

[harsh egret]

when it comes to quick switching

[upbeat junco]

now if only armor nerf was reverted

its rough with the upgrade but its just horrid without the upgrade

[raven vine]

i experimented with the quick swapping and yeah, i started playing it like eternal so much so that i pressed my old eternal glory kill button when i wanted to execute LMFAO

my subconscious / neural pathways or whatever thought i was playing eternal because i was treating SSG (on Q) and Impaler (on F) like SSG Ballista which were also on Q and F in eternal

[harsh egret]

yh im not gonna quick switch even if i can

[hexed dagger]

i still think not quick swapping is better because you give up most of the weapons benefits by not holding them out

[harsh egret]

that too

[hexed dagger]

imapler charged shot, chainshot, ravager, cooked rocket, etc etc

[harsh egret]

sure its funny for like 2 mins but then im like eh why tho

[raven vine]

i’m pretty sure something like SSG impaler now bypasses reload on stow exactly how it did in eternal

[harsh egret]

i cant wait until they do another hotfix for this just for them to accidentally add glory kills to the game

[upbeat junco]

LOL

[wintry nexus]

Lmao

[hexed dagger]

yeah but its not as fast as eternal and the impaler is not nearly balista level without the charged shots

[wintry nexus]

Watch the meat hook be back on the ssg too

[hexed dagger]

its still slower than eternal

[upbeat junco]

double jump returns

[raven vine]

yes i mean that quick swapping ssg + impaler is better than holding down click on SSG

whereas i don’t think it was pre patch

[green estuary]

Impaler headshots do waaay more damage than ballista shots ever did in eternal

[hexed dagger]

thats what im saying

[raven vine]

eh, you can’t compare really

[upbeat junco]

impaler headshots are diabolical

1 hs to put down a hell knight

[raven vine]

ballista had headshot bonus in eternal

[hexed dagger]

without the enhanced shots the impaler isnt that good compared to chainshot or ssg

therefore quick switching to it is not really worth it

[delicate grotto]

Was there a hotfix or something?

[hexed dagger]

or if it is, its barely any higher dps

[raven vine]

they reverted the game back to eternal 💔

[delicate grotto]

Ah lol

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/jose-mourinho-sweet-trouble-gif-26762341

[raven vine]

i kid

[green estuary]

I know

[hexed dagger]

you're also operationg under the same idea that you can just sit there and shoot like you can in eternal

[gleaming vortex]

old ass message but grenade launcher is peak. you can farm cluster bombs from enemies with shields in them. actual room clearing beast

[hexed dagger]

having to block and parry makes quick switching worse becasue it already fills the void between shots

[raven vine]

have you seen people who grenade jump with their shield to do jump falters

demoman tf2 ass strategy

[wintry nexus]

I like the quick switching but eh, it doesn’t change much to tda

[delicate grotto]

Well the SSG bug does seem to be fixed to me. When I was playing earlier I had no problem juggling parrying, shooting, reloading and putting my shield up again.

[green estuary]

I honestly felt like ricochet is just like that but better

[wintry nexus]

I just wanted them to fix the ssg

[hexed dagger]

yeah the ssg bug is gone

[raven vine]

but at what cost

[delicate grotto]

Maybe that’s why I could finally do that shitty ass challenge lmao

[raven vine]

they listened to the haters

[wintry nexus]

Dude calm down, they didn’t change anything about tda

[gleaming vortex]

eh, ricochet needs a lot more commitment to it. plus I like impaler too much

[raven vine]

i’m joking

[wintry nexus]

Oh

I’m a dumbass

[gleaming vortex]

so wait was there a patch today?

[raven vine]

i just find it really really funny that people wanted tda to be doom eternal 2 and in an emergency tunable to fix a bug they temporarily brought back eternal-like quickswapping

[delicate grotto]

SSG bug is fixed

[raven vine]

i’m sure it’ll be removed

we should enjoy this while we can

[delicate grotto]

Maybe I turned off the game before the patch was released but I didn’t really notice much of a swap speed change.

[raven vine]

but it would be an excellent cheat menu option, if they ever add that

[gleaming vortex]

just a bug fix or is ssg actually viable again

[delicate grotto]

Just a bug fix I presume

[raven vine]

they fixed the shield bug with the ssg, making it viable again

[delicate grotto]

It definitely is still viable despite the damage nerfs and resistance buffs

[raven vine]

for a second there you were asking for death by engaging parry heavy demons with ssg

[delicate grotto]

Yes, now I can juggle 3 Cyberdemons at once again

Feels good to use again

[raven vine]

the three cyber demon hidden switch in the spire of nerathuyuhuwhatever

there should be an achievement for completing that tbh

hugo please heed my request

[delicate grotto]

I haven’t even tried that one yet. I’ve just been messing around in the Ripatorium. I’ve gotta go find that. I agree tho, an achievement would be fun. I like the running theme of hiding 3 Cyberdemons in a level. Eternal did it too. Hope they keep doing it in future games lol

Though my favorite secret encounter has gotta be the Marauder horde they hid in World Spear for Eternal’s TAG2 DLC

Maybe we’ll get something similar in TDA’s. Horde of Aggadons?

[gleaming vortex]

it’s actually in harbor of souls 🤓 ☝️

[vital rapids]

Aargh quickswap. Oh no. Not this shit.

https://tenor.com/view/clown-juggler-juggling-sugr-juggling-coins-gif-16475082380002435566

O well, it's not like the game will come to rely on using it. Can just ignore

[harsh egret]

I dont even know how this went through ngl

[wintry nexus]

Why are you guys taking this so seriously

It’s just quick switching

[harsh egret]

🙃

[wintry nexus]

It’s not like they brought back weapon mods, dash and double jumps lol 😭

[delicate grotto]

I mean, it just goes against the original combat philosophy that’s all. I’m sure it’ll be tuned down later.

[raven vine]

there was a 3 cyberdemon easter egg in eternal?

never knew

[delicate grotto]

Yeah. Super Gore Nest. Pop 3 hidden balloons in that main arena with the 3 key sockets.

[wintry nexus]

I can understand that but like, why are they taking it as if they brought literally everything from eternal to tda

[delicate grotto]

People are quick to exaggerate
But I can understand the concerns. The game didn’t need this change imo.

[wintry nexus]

It never needed it, just a side thing tbh

[green estuary]

2 tyrants

[wintry nexus]

You don’t HAVE to quick switch

[delicate grotto]

Just 2? I could’ve sworn it was 3

[vital rapids]

Quick swapping will hopefully be gone or I will try to ignore it. But in truth, it's very hard to ignore something you know will bail you out if you fuck up the execution of your combat sentences. Maybe even obsolete them. Would take an iron will on a UN run

Kind of lowers the stakes potentially. Maybe even disincentivizes playing the game as intended

[hard thistle]

this is literally what i've been saying. because you can quickswap in DDA doesn't mean it's as useful as eternal. like sure you can do it every onnce in a while to look cool, but ultimately, that's not the most optimal or even the most fun way to play. so people that keep complaining of them adding it back just doesn't make sense to me. just don't use it

[wintry nexus]

See, smart cookie this one

[hard thistle]

[raven vine]

just saw a video that’s awesome lol

[delicate grotto]

Yeah I love hidden stuff like that

[hard thistle]

i just need my master levels , all the people complaining about quickswitching should use that energy and ask them to give us master levels

[raven vine]

i think the quickswapping that’s in the game now should be removed and if they ever add a cheat code system it should be re-added to that

[wintry nexus]

YES

[delicate grotto]

At least we’ve got the Ripatorium to keep us preoccupied, albeit barebones currently but fun enough. Plenty of challenges you can make for yourself.

[wintry nexus]

I love the level design of chapters I want to see more of it in a challenging way

[hard thistle]

simple solution to this, so people stop complaining, add a slider like the slowmo slider, for quickswitching. people that don't want it, turn it off. Everyone's happy

[delicate grotto]

I’ve got the perfect one to keep you all busy until that DLC releases

[hard thistle]

share it

[delicate grotto]

That’d be neat

[raven vine]

so many people asking for ripatorium presets as if that’s not what the campaign is for lol

[wintry nexus]

People will never be happy

[vital rapids]

Yeah. Can try to get time to kill down for certain enemies, too. I was surprised at how uniform mine are vs the same enemies. Ripatorium is good stuff, more ripatorium please id

[wintry nexus]

You do something, some one has to complain

[delicate grotto]

Try doing this without the BFC. Maybe with quickswitching it’ll be a bit more manageable. I was able to beat it though it took me countless tries. It’s fun though, in a mean spirited sort of way lol.

10 zombies, 15 heated shields, 15 energy shields
3 HKs, 1 leader knight, 3 pinky riders, 1 pinky leader, 2 armored mancubi, 1 leader mancubus, 2 revenants, 1 leader revenant

2 Cyberdemons
1 Cyberdemon leader
2 Komodos
1 Komodo leader

[hard thistle]

yeah. i'm sure that people will still complain if they added it as a slider

[wintry nexus]

Saved again

[harsh egret]

We already know they are in development so asking wont speed anything up

[wintry nexus]

Dude ily

[delicate grotto]

Good luck lmao

It’s a bit luck based when it comes down to it. I’d give yourself 10 mins

[raven vine]

if they make one master level for every campaign chapter i will name my firstborn child hugo martin

[delicate grotto]

Same

[raven vine]

aka a master campaign

[harsh egret]

We'll see what ng+ is

Could be just that

[vital rapids]

Not so sure - if it was somehow not the default, then the game can never have content designed around it, and it can't be available as an easy way out when you play. So then who would be concerned

[hexed dagger]

have they said ng+ is a thing?

[delicate grotto]

Though nothing is officially confirmed there is a dev menu someone found that has lists of all sorts of wild things. Including a NG+ campaign

[harsh egret]

^

[wintry nexus]

What difficulty do you prefer

[vital rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/what-you-doing-surprised-shocked-what-darth-vader-gif-14058363

[raven vine]

i can only imagine what a ng+ means for a game where you can freely go back to chapters

[delicate grotto]

I did mine on NM, 120% speed, tightest parry window. I completed it on the Kahlim map. It gives you enough cover where you’re not constantly bombarded by projectiles

[wintry nexus]

Oh no

[delicate grotto]

And keeps everything close enough together where you can string along some gnarly parry combos

[wintry nexus]

Atleast no cosmic baron or aggadon lmao

I’m traumatised by those

[raven vine]

my fav difficulty slider combo rn is parry level 2, 110% speed, 50% daze, and min. resources.

[delicate grotto]

You’re free to do it however you like tho. If you want a less headache inducing challenge just remove the extra 2 Komodos and Cyberdemons. Still challenging enough

[raven vine]

min resources is such a sleeper difficulty option

[delicate grotto]

True

[delicate grotto]

Let me find the link to the screenshot rq

[raven vine]

it FUCKS if you want to use combat shotty, flail, ravager

[wintry nexus]

Alr, thx elemental

I’m gonna try this out now

[hexed dagger]

how much sharpening do you guys use?

[delicate grotto]

If you really wanna try and beat it with no BFC absolutely target the revvies first, switch to vampirism rocket launcher to stack up health when you’re low. Thats what helped me lol

[wintry nexus]

The rocket launcher is such a life saver

[delicate grotto]

@vital rapids

[wintry nexus]

I am so getting my ass kicked

[delicate grotto]

Lmao

[wintry nexus]

At this point it’s not even purification before 20 minutes it’s survive until 20 minutes

[delicate grotto]

Pretty much lol

Btw it’s meant to be 15 of heated and energy shield soldiers, not 10. Mb. Those extra 10 make a difference

[merry sapphire]

is the hotfix out yet

[solid nacelle]

They fixed blocking with ssg thru a tunable

[merry sapphire]

so its fixed????!!!!

[solid nacelle]

Yes

[merry sapphire]

Sick man i Love you man

[wintry nexus]

???

[merry sapphire]

What

[wintry nexus]

You’re saying that as if he’s the one that fixed it

Never mind

[merry sapphire]

i Appreciate Him Telling Me That the Bug is Fixed Jazz

[wintry nexus]

I SAID NEVER MIND

[merry sapphire]

I Dont Think its #ThatDeep

[wintry nexus]

WHICH IS WHY I SAID NEVER MIND 😭

[merry sapphire]

Its An Appreciation Gesture Jazz Nation I Love Him For Telling me The Truth

[calm fulcrum]

has QC happened?

[merry sapphire]

Dont Worry, i Love The Developers Who Fixed the Bug too

[wintry nexus]

Dude

[merry sapphire]

Yeah

[calm fulcrum]

so no news on the dlc?

[merry sapphire]

Whats up

[merry sapphire]

No

we Have 1 Singular Concept art of a level in the Dlc that was revealed before

and Thats It

[harsh egret]

Tmr new dlc tease hopefully

On the Hugo show

[merry sapphire]

am i going crazy or is the shield unupgraded in ripatorium

the cooldown for the shield break is exactly like how it is unupgraded

Yeah ill wait for a hotfix this is still p buggy

they really should have delayed this update to work on it some more

[solid nacelle]

For me it seems to pick and choose when it comes back. Sometimes it seems fast other times it's slow. So bizarre

[lunar spire]

Am I crazy or is there a weird delay now before the parry is actualized now? Like I see a noticeable but small delay before the shield comes up

It's been screwing up my parry windows lately. Maybe I'm just rusty and washed but it doesn't feel like it

[feral vault]

guys does id know that the shield upgrades are not working on ripatorium?

[uneven mortar]

Why you hating damn

[solar cairn]

Guys, there's a problem, I didn't get the update, is it better to post it in the technical support thread?

The SSG bug is still there, and there's nothing new

[exotic jetty]

I noticed that too and it makes me think I didn't parry but then I do parry it'll probably be fixed within the next few months or so...

[lunar spire]

Well I'm glad I'm not the only one. It's been throwing me off on my ripatorium challenges

I'm definitely rusty but like

Not that rusty

[exotic jetty]

Nah you good I'm sure your better than you think anyway I gotta sleep so bye

[delicate grotto]

I haven’t noticed that myself though maybe I’m just not paying enough attention

[hexed dagger]

what sharpness setting do you guys use?

[delicate grotto]

I kept mine at default

Though I’m on PS5

[hearty edge]

i love you ssg i missed you so much

[solid nacelle]

Did you restart the game

[solar cairn]

++

Or this fix created other bugs and they may have rolled back something?

[mild garnet]

Hi

[warm ibex]

@harsh egret You talked about an SSG buff on twitter, was that mentioned anywhere officially?

Like obviously you can tell changes have been made in-game, but I was wondering if there was any official mention since I couldn't find anything on the Slayers Club or Doom socials

[solar cairn]

I can’t find it either, they usually write about hotfixes

[solar cairn]

Have you tried playing yet? Has the bug with the shield delay after the shot from the ssg been really fixed?

[spare panther]

Played a couole hours ago and its definitely been fixed

[solar cairn]

Well, then somehow I didn’t get the fix(

[delicate grotto]

Is there a way you could clip it at all and post it in #videos?

You should be able to block immediately after shooting again

[solar cairn]

I’ll try it now

[solar cairn]

I restarted the game and it worked, thank God

[hearty edge]

alr only 3 more weapon masteries togo

oh i totally forgot about the skull ones

5 more

[slate heart]

only thing i wish ripatorium had is a random demons mode. like it kinda shuffles the demon selections

[raw crag]

So I read the Berserker and Melee Expert bugs were patched on June 5th, but I just played through the game twice and still can't get them to unlock. Is there some kind of trick I can do?

Did you do some kind of trick to get it to go?

[uneven mortar]

Just opened the game, sorry

[raw crag]

Dang! No problem. What platform?

[uneven mortar]

PC, steam

[raw crag]

Thanks. Guess Ill keep hoping lol

[dark thunder]

shoutout alamander

[meager vortex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1233256802435596289/1405434942845878272/fbbe75e8ea85c12867a1529beb2d4ac4862334d6.png?ex=689ed0ca&is=689d7f4a&hm=922d6e039e00b9308a044c75a9cfa5e10cd8e9ccd9f4d4cb4968ec31ef36ce4a&

this image is good!

[neon perch]

Oh okay I'm not going crazy the shield really has no upgrades in the Ripatorium lol.

[solar cairn]

I hope underthemayo will mention it

[uneven mortar]

Like shield runes dont work?

[frank turtle]

naw it's the shield upgrade themselves that don't work, like faster shield repair

[sleek ermine]

Hey uhh is it normal for DOOM: The Dark Ages to E-mail you when you first beat the game

[uneven mortar]

That's king novik congratulating you

[frank turtle]

what the hell

[meager vortex]

[harsh egret]

Late reply cuz i was sleeping but only thing we have is a tweet from bethesda support
"A fix has just been implemented for #DOOM: The Dark Ages (all platforms) that resolved an issue that was preventing a Shield Block from interrupting the Super Shotgun reload animation on the intended frame.
Please close and reopen the game to see the fix implemented."

[frank turtle]

gonna try UN now with the new update

gonna go with ground fissure all the way

[uneven mortar]

I saved up gold and fully upgraded ground fissure as soon as i got it, so fun

Best feeling shield rune

[solemn mauve]

Make sure you're full awake during your UN

[frank turtle]

I'm glad the ssg bug got fixed but man it still feels alot weaker

making the mancubus have more hp AND ssg doing less damage to it is kinda overkill

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doom-the-dark-ages-shotgun-lever-action-gif-2020066775983639348

I wish I never knew you...

[uneven dragon]

I HATE EVERYONE WHO COMPLAINED IT WAS TOO OP

[frank turtle]

FR. THATS WHY ITS CALLED A "SUPER" SHOTGUN

[uneven dragon]

IT'S LITERALLY OP IN EVERY SINGLE PRIOR GAME EVEN ETERNAL

[frank turtle]

"boo my steak is too juicy and buttery"

[uneven dragon]

nooo its so unbalanced noo it makes the game easy

Don't use it then lol??

[frank turtle]

it wasn't even the best gun in the game

atleast to me

[solemn mauve]

This gif is fire ngl

[upbeat junco]

I love this

Whoever thought of a lever action side by side double barrel design needs a fat raise

[frank turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/terminator-winchester-trigger-arnold-schwarzenegger-gun-winchester-arnold-schwarzenegger-gif-17130125

[harsh egret]

question is why is that cutscene not in the game

[solemn mauve]

Lmao

[upbeat junco]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-the-dark-ages-doom-true-launch-the-true-doom-launch-the-true-gif-17039720600748597696

[sleek ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-the-dark-ages-launch-launch-the-true-melon-gif-15484408642892935923

[upbeat junco]

😭

[sleek ermine]

khan baykr

[modest halo]

@frank turtle ur a monster addict too? 😂 same here

[frank turtle]

[modest halo]

We’re so cooked

[hard thistle]

i just tried the ssg shield hotfix this morning, and everyone yesterday that were saying they added quickswitching with the hotfix is completely wrong. Shieldbashing and quickswapping is still faster than regular weapon switching. whatever you're feeling as quickswitching was literally there since update 2, which was the overall increased weapon swap speed. And if you think that's not the case, record yourself doing the quickswitching, vs shieldbash quickswitching, and see which one's faster. And if it's possible, downgrade your game, or disconnect your game from the internet to avoid the tunable, and check just the weaponswitching, i guarantee you it's the same thing. the only change i can feel in this tunable patch is the shield bug fix @solar cairn

[hard thistle]

@harsh egret , - #the-dark-ages message, either they changed something between yesterday and today, or y'all were feeling placebo. Because i tried it this morning

[vague sinew]

super shotgun feels a lot better now. too bad it's not as powerful as it was but it still packs a punch

[wheat sigil]

i don't think anyone mentioned stuff about general swap speeds being increased, it's only the ssg that's now able to be animation cancelled too

shield swapping it doesn't have any effect on the ssg anymore though

[modest halo]

When is the dlc dropping

[wheat sigil]

and it's not very significant on other weapons, so it's a neat thing, but not something you'd go out of your way to do

[hard thistle]

ok i must have misunderstood then. because that's what everyone was saying yesterday. So only SSG swapspeed specifically was affected by this? i mean even if so, it still feels faster after the shieldbashing though.
after update 2 without the tunable, i think ssg swapspeed was also increased. why would they increase all other weapon speed except ssg in update 2?

[uneven mortar]

Next week

[wheat sigil]

ssg bring-down or up speed wasn't affected, but you can now animation cancel out of it just how you can block/parry right after a shot

[uneven mortar]

SSG feels pretty weak even fully upgraded ngl

It was perfect after the hell knight fix, didn't need any further meddling

Chainshot shouldn't feel punchier than SSG at close range

[hard thistle]

I guess that's cool. but they made it sound like shield bashing to swapping is completely obsolete now due to that tunable. It's clearly not

[hard thistle]

Y'all just got me hyped about this tunable for no reason

[vague sinew]

Who was even complaining about the ssg

[hard thistle]

Also, for those talking about ssg animation cancel, undermayo made a goodpoint at 10:50(https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sjiG8Lovs3U#), with all the recent nerfs, which ssg was nerfed heavily, it seems like the want to encourage using variety of weapons, and thus increasing weapon swap speed, would make sense given the nerfs

[uneven dragon]

kind of cringe :P

[merry jackal]

ssg got nerfed?? 😭

[split gate]

There’s a gif for everything wtf

[north spire]

It’s a good thing I had Dusk to tide me over until the SSG bug got fixed :)

[alpine pilot]

Where doom

[solid nacelle]

What does that even mean

[green estuary]

You didn’t notice?

[sleek ermine]

WHO DOOM

[alpine pilot]

WHOM DOOM

[vital rapids]

HIM DOIM

[hearty edge]

honestly i like it

[hearty edge]

steam

[random garnet]

Give us photo mode

[merry jackal]

yea i notice it now bruh

[green estuary]

oh
but yeah it got nerfed into the ground

[merry jackal]

100% music volume + low parry window + demon aggresion max + game speed 150% is insane

[merry jackal]

fr bro thankfully i got the mastery whenn it was insane

i cant one shot no more

[green estuary]

tda's music is lowk really starting to grow on me

[fluid nacelle]

mannn this sucks
i only need 1 more achievement and its bugged
cuz i should have gotten it already

[warm ibex]

Ah nice, thank you!

I'm sure they'll mention it during the stream tonight too

[merry jackal]

u mean its bad or good

idk

but ive encoutnered too many bugs since the new update

[harsh egret]

yep gonna be an intresting stream today, maybe adressing some of the issues and balance stuff, maybe dlc tease and maybe whats next for the ripatorium

give me presets and share options

[merry jackal]

my shield randomly just like locks i cant do anything else

dodopes it hjapen to u guys?

[frank turtle]

doom

[patent cave]

I still have the SSG bug lmao
did they release an update that steam is just not letting me download or smth?

[frank turtle]

that's weird it shouldn't of required an update

atleast for me

btw the ssg and gauntlet combo makes the ssg alot better after the recent nerf

[wheat sigil]

wait wtf the bug is back for me

[patent cave]

yeah I played a little, super shotty felt better, realized they fixed it, then it's back to dookie now

[wheat sigil]

did they add it back to remove the animation cancelling?

[green estuary]

they realized the quick swap bug

[patent cave]

ghoulish development

highly undesirable situation, even

[green estuary]

my faith in id has been restored

[raven vine]

have they acknowledged the quickswap “bug” yet

[wheat sigil]

yes you now can't block after firing the ssg again

[harsh egret]

Bruh

[wheat sigil]

seconded

[raven vine]

oh my god LMAO

[harsh egret]

So did they fix the quickswapping or what

And its back to how it was 2 days ago

[raven vine]

i just tested it yup. no more quickswapping but also the ssg shield bug is back

[wheat sigil]

yes that also removes animation cancelling it

[green estuary]

they "fixed" the quickswapping by unfixing the original bug lmaoo

[harsh egret]

l m a o

[raven vine]

they basically reverted the last patch

rip

“TDA is doom eternal 2” mfs when i show them THIS update:

[wheat sigil]

tda was never de 2, certainly not even with the ssg animation cancel😭

[frank turtle]

I still have the "fixed" ssg

on xbox

[wheat sigil]

dam

[raven vine]

sorry console chud, steam players get the tunables

[frank turtle]

console supremacy baby

[raven vine]

back to using the combat shotgun for my UN runs

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/john-jonah-jameson-lol-laughing-hysterically-laughing-out-loud-funny-gif-17710543

[frank turtle]

it weird cause xbox still gets tunables

Just not this time

[wheat sigil]

i'll torture myself on eternal until they fix all of this lmao

[frank turtle]

insane cope ik

[frank turtle]

teach me how to beat sgn ultra nightmare

[green estuary]

Clinically insane man plays with ai_haste 2.5x

[patent cave]

the consensus that they shouldnt make the same game twice
yet i would quite fancy another doom eternal

[green estuary]

You have doom eternal 2
It’s just Kaiser campaign lmao

[wheat sigil]

that's easier said than done😭 it'd basically just encompass improving your gameplay all-aroung
unless you wanna develop set strategies for each encounter

[harsh egret]

i love this, i keep telling a friend wait til i tell u they added the next update then i think u should play
at this point every update im gonna say the same

[patent cave]

1. chaingun shield
2. chaingun shield
3. chaingun shield
4. chaingun shield

[frank turtle]

eternal 2 would sell like hot cakes

[wheat sigil]

akshually only 2x ai haste and damage to player currently

[silent surge]

i like that dark ages is different

[frank turtle]

so do i just need to practice more?

[green estuary]

The pro of being on pc
Is that if you don’t like a particular change or nerf that they make, you can just mod it back out

[frank turtle]

me too

[harsh egret]

i love dark ages 😎

[frank turtle]

I got more hrs on tda than I do on eternal

[silent surge]

https://x.com/BethesdaSupport/status/1956031673767702965

Bethesda Support (@BethesdaSupport)

ℹ After pushing yesterday's tunable to #DOOM: The Dark Ages to resolve the Super Shotgun reload interrupt for Shield Block, we found an unintended exploit that required us to pull it down. We apologize for the inconvenience and are working to resolve it.

X · Aug 14, 2025, 4:34 PM

[green estuary]

So basically a permanent buff totem? Or does the buff totem not buff enemies that much

[wheat sigil]

pretty much, there isn't a cheatcode for this stuff

[green estuary]

based

[patent cave]

love u allstin but YIKES

[green estuary]

incredibly based by id

[harsh egret]

hahah

[frank turtle]

i got stuck between 2 cyber demons last night

I raged so hard

[silent surge]

i am the messenger do not shoot, i repeat, hold your fire

[harsh egret]

bro snitched

[frank turtle]

all the ppl who said it was intentionally added to be a quick swap

[patent cave]

i cant shoot, i am dead because my super shotgun took too long to reload

[harsh egret]

lmao how could someone think that

[hearty edge]

DAMNIT

[frank turtle]

ppl were deadass saying they were going back on their design philosophy

[wheat sigil]

not sure what the buff totem stats are actually, but it's way lower than that

[hard thistle]

Y'all really need to stop snitching, thanks guys

[harsh egret]

l o l

[silent surge]

wait what

[frank turtle]

fuck though man, I really hope they figure this out soon, they should just revert the whole ssg nerf together

[harsh egret]

actually yh i saw a comment say smth like "ah yes finally they are realizing how shit this game is and making it like eternal again"

[patent cave]

youll be fine without the quickswap
back in my day, we played 2016 without quickswapping and it worked just fine!!

[silent surge]

that’s assuming id doesn’t track data and see when things are changed though

[frank turtle]

eternal brainrot

[patent cave]

there should be like a memo that you can prefer eternal and also wrap your head around this game functioning as a legitimate entertainment product

its not mutually exclusive

[sudden stump]

they have data on every player in every encounter, no one needs to snitch

[silent surge]

i’ve been trying to report bugs and help out. plenty others have too

[green estuary]

Not possible
TDA is just parry slop, don’t you see?

[solemn mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-angle-stare-100-yard-stare-meme-gif-251436459491629941

[patent cave]

are you saying id software can spy on me through my wifi

[solemn mauve]

Really?

[hard thistle]

Someone snitched to ID that's why they reverted the ssg fix lol. why couldn't they have just left it in there until they have the actual patch for just the shield cancel issue.

[green estuary]

Acting like id doesn’t have people employed there that play the game 😆

[hearty edge]

in my experience "quickswapping" between the ssg and gauss canon is faster but its not needed at all

[sudden stump]

Mr. id software is secretly looking at our shotgun pics

[hard thistle]

Yes, but before pushing a tunable, it goes through their QA, their qa didn't catch it, hence it was pushed. they only removed it as a result of external customer report, after the report, their qa will test it again, and verify it is indeed reproducible. That is the standard process

[patent cave]

u say that but there is plenty of studios where people dont play their own games 💀

[frank turtle]

@silent surge Have you tried all the different game speeds? if so which one is your personal favorite? I liked 100% the best but after a while I really started to love 120%

[silent surge]

we’d find it on hugo’s stream tonight anyway yall

[patent cave]

are they planning on fixing the random 4,000% game speed after melee/interaction btw

[silent surge]

100% game speed no slow mo is good. 150 with is fine too. or even without if you’re a masochist
200 modded is a little too crazy

[green estuary]

You are really pressed about this huh

[hard thistle]

Yes. I am

[silent surge]

all us youtubers are plotting on how to take this game down so we can make giant ragebait videos

HUGE DOOM UPDATE FAILED!! CLICK ME NOW

[frank turtle]

200 omg

[patent cave]

THE HUGO BATHWATER SITUATION IS INSANE!

[silent surge]

it’s really cool cause you’re flying around the keyboard

but a whole campaign that way?? yeee no

[silent surge]

stretched thumbnail of hugo’s face

[warm ibex]

what's even funnier is that they've likely got people reading through feedback everywhere, so there's a legitimate chance that no one snitched and they just saw you guys chatting in here yesterday 😭

[silent surge]

reasonable take

[frank turtle]

nah they probably did, whole chat was going crazy including me

[hard thistle]

Probably true

[harsh egret]

josh did like my clip i posted on twitter a few hours ago so uhh ye who knows

[frank turtle]

I just don't know if they should of reverted it back if they still don't have a solution

or atleast close to a solution

[patent cave]

boy i sure am glad i got the cheese slayer before they added an extra manc to every encounter

[green estuary]

bruh and now mancs are tanky as balls too

[hearty edge]

whats the cheese slayer

[frank turtle]

love cheese slayer and especially cheese serrat

it's my go to skin

[sudden stump]

Weird way of spelling extra health packs

[green estuary]

gold skin

[patent cave]

unm trophy

cheese atlan nice but u get to see it like twice

[frank turtle]

once

not even kidding lmao

[patent cave]

💀

[harsh egret]

i like how the music that plays on the komodo fight just doesnt play for me

only on my first attempt, after that i tried restarting and everything and its just gone

ambient music

[solemn mauve]

I mean sooner or later someone was going to discover this, yeah it was fun while it lasted

[patent cave]

see i never had trouble w the music
my friend never had trouble with the random game speedup bug
every copy of TDA is personalized and things are uniquely broken

[harsh egret]

ive had more issues with the music now after update 2 where they said they made sure music plays correctly everywhere

than ever before

[warm ibex]

don't forget that one of the id team's best qualities is listening to player feedback. So if you let them know that you really liked the SSG swap speed change, there's a good chance they'll compromise 👀

[harsh egret]

imo even if it was in the game i wouldnt use it

[sudden stump]

Because they put the music trigger before the checkpoint

So if you die there is no music again lol

[harsh egret]

welp

[silent surge]

punishment for death

[patent cave]

vro i jus want the shieldsaw to work 😵‍💫

[hearty edge]

man i remember yesterday i was celebrating bc of the ssg being usable again now

[patent cave]

pumpkin man once said "just dont die lmao"

[solemn mauve]

Now it's gone... Reduced to atoms....

[harsh egret]

it was all a dream

[solemn mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/prempdr-fc-mobile-fifa-gif-16778760554072111618

[patent cave]

so high u hallucinate a ssg fix

[frank turtle]

so glad I still have it, I ain't closing my game til it's fixed again

quick resume saved me

[sudden stump]

Besides the bugs though most of the new music triggers are on point. From Beyond is much more fun when you have Hellspawn Rift playing while you fly

[harsh egret]

music triggers sure yeah theyre are good so far

[sudden stump]

And I do like how some portions of the music specifically play in some areas as opposed to eternal where it was random which one would

[solid nacelle]

That ending cutscene in the spire is still bugged with the music it just plays the ambience

[patent cave]

im still livid they only included the slow parts of Ancestral Beast in the ost.

komodo champ music is the best in the game

[solid nacelle]

Why would you not include that dawg

[harsh egret]

yh which is why im sad it doesnt play when u die on the komodo fight

I died on purpose to listen to it again btw

[patent cave]

sounds like something mike patton would do idk why

glorious fiesta ahh riff

[hearty edge]

why was even quickswitching a complaint wth

[warm ibex]

I don't like quick swapping in TDA but that's still probably the smoothest the SSG has felt since launch

being able to swap from the SSG to the impaler without it taking a solid half hour feels great

[merry jackal]

we can quicksswap now??

[warm ibex]

no lol

[solemn mauve]

I loved that flow, it was perfect

[harsh egret]

Agreed

[merry jackal]

oh alr

[hearty edge]

yeah the ssg felt great

for like 2 seconds

[merry jackal]

ssg was buffed bruyh

i used to use it befoere updae

just shield bash parry n shoot

for any demon

[merry sapphire]

is the hotfix unout?

[warm ibex]

yeah bro

[merry sapphire]

Holy Shit Horde Mode Gaming

[warm ibex]

holy shit shivero

what's good man

[patent cave]

holy shit shivero

[merry sapphire]

im good man wbu

[hearty edge]

sex

[warm ibex]

I'm not bad bro

[harsh egret]

Real shivero?

[patent cave]

sure

[warm ibex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1400344876326850584/1404348638234415144/SaveTwitter.Net_GyBudsdb0AAiweD_gif.gif

[exotic jetty]

Based

[merry sapphire]

glad to hear man keep on keeping on man

[harsh egret]

Legendary gif

[exotic jetty]

Tf??

Bro why

[merry sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-2016-doom-4-doom-destructive-criticism-hell-razer-doom-gif-15978813926732819028

[patent cave]

sry i can only watch horde's videos @ .75 speed because he talks too fast

[exotic jetty]

Give him backshots

[warm ibex]

my bad I'll talk faster going forward bro 🙏

I've lowkey got you covered

[patent cave]

speeds up ts til its 30 seconds of patch review plus a navy seal copypasta read at the end

[uneven bone]

Anyone else think they buffed the shield soldier too much?

[patent cave]

chaingunner is the worst enemy in the game

[exotic jetty]

Nah

[raven vine]

yes

i hate the chain gunner

[exotic jetty]

Correct you won billions of dollars

[patent cave]

plutonia simulator

[uneven bone]

What difficulty u playing on???

[harsh egret]

I still remember how I was laughing my ass off when u went on Mayo's stream and read ppls comments with ur yt voice, was hilarious

[exotic jetty]

Nightmare

[hearty edge]

havent played against them too much but i do feel they are more durable

[uneven bone]

I have to use three melee swings when I'm in a closed area to stop them from draining half my health

[exotic jetty]

I use shield

Then ssg

[patent cave]

i use bfc

[exotic jetty]

The big fuckin co-

[hearty edge]

what

[warm ibex]

that was a good time 😭

[exotic jetty]

Er I mean the ballistic force crossbow

[patent cave]

big friggin cow bro, fr

[uneven bone]

I DO THIS, but I can only shield for so long. When I try to punish them, they punish me instead.

[delicate grotto]

Nah, Caco Hybrids.
Chaingunners are annoying as shit though

[uneven bone]

U mean like a shield charge or something?

[exotic jetty]

Nor sure if you agreeing with me or telling me what u meant

[patent cave]

just walk left and right and shoot it with like 3 grenades

chaingunner? well u can just quit the game or lose half ur hp trying to heat the shield up

[delicate grotto]

They still suck to fight. They’re boring. At least I can delete the Chaingunner in 2 clicks. I’ve got to wait for the Caco to finish its pattern bullshit

[uneven bone]

Hard to do that if ur upclose to them tho

*up close

[patent cave]

dont be up close

why are you close to them, they bite

[uneven bone]

It's hard when ur running around from the other pressure tho

[delicate grotto]

The design is great I just wish it attacked (with its parryable shot) more often. Especially with the recent health buff I feel like it should

[harsh egret]

Just remove the hp increase ffs

Or rework his attacks

[patent cave]

our cacos have invincibility and pattern bullshit, take yo sensitive ass back to doom eternal

[uneven bone]

I'm aware it's a skill issue on my part tho. Just gotta prioritize better

[patent cave]

arenas are super huge, its easier than ever to run away if u ask me

[delicate grotto]

It’s an aerial marauder without the fun and engaging combat dance

[patent cave]

half the enemies are marauders

[delicate grotto]

And yet they’re fun

[patent cave]

debatable

f dat aggadon shield

[uneven bone]

Not all of em

[exotic jetty]

Question what should I eat for lunch

[harsh egret]

The cacodemons

[patent cave]

toast sandwich

[hearty edge]

steak

[patent cave]

look up toast sandwich
most appetizing* bri'ish cuisine