the-dark-ages

[uneven mortar]

The glowing red weapons in general look kind of lame

[gleaming vortex]

the crucible guitar fucking rules though

[verbal void]

I do not take disrespect on the marauder axe

[uneven mortar]

Yea

[uneven mortar]

That looks cool but only becauze it fits the demon vibe

They should give doomguy a proper warhammer that isn't red and ugly

[gleaming vortex]

a what

[uneven mortar]

Dreadmace should have been a hammer

[verbal void]

Sentinel hammer:

[uneven mortar]

Red and ugly

[gleaming vortex]

perhaps he should call it the war hammer 40,000

[verbal void]

Great for groups of demons tho

[fallow arch]

Give it to his atlan mech

[uneven mortar]

Unbalanced you mean

[gleaming vortex]

actually yeah weve seen the mechs with spears

[fallow arch]

Instead of the Chaingun in chapter 21 he should get a giant ass hammer

[gleaming vortex]

wheres my spear

[verbal void]

This may be mid but i think
“THE WEAPON OF DOOM”

[frail bloom]

I've been thinking

Should I draw a dark ages version of the archvile

[uneven mortar]

Ye

[verbal void]

Sure

[frail bloom]

And animate it?

I'll start tomorrow

[gleaming vortex]

its very on the nose but the BFG stands for big fucking gun so it's not gonna lose you any points

[uneven mortar]

Doomguy needs a halberd

[frail bloom]

It's like 1:23 AM

But y'all will see why classic archie is #1 hated

[gleaming vortex]

if you do PLEASE give his like a big exposed forehead brain

[frail bloom]

Ye ye I gotchu

[gleaming vortex]

like the reddit university guy (but less)

[frail bloom]

Trust me I'm decent

[uneven mortar]

Give him fire breath

[frail bloom]

Yur mum

That means I think I dislike the idea

So no.

[uneven mortar]

But its like a dragon

[gleaming vortex]

make him like a general in the war, so he has like some armor clothing and isn't butt booty naked

[frail bloom]

So your mom

Alr enough.

[uneven mortar]

Give him a wizard hat

[frail bloom]

...

[uneven mortar]

And a long wispy beard

[frail bloom]

It's tempting

[gleaming vortex]

give him a magic orb that he ponders

[verbal void]

GIVE THEM MEDIEVAL ARMOR, COOL AHH FACE, ANNOYING PRESCENCE AND FIRE. LOTS OF FIRE

[fallow arch]

Archviles are an ancient demon species so it should be in the dark ages

[frail bloom]

Exactly

They would fit right in

With their pail gnarly asses

Mangled tall physique

Fire mage attacks

[verbal void]

FIRE

[gleaming vortex]

wait so does that mean that the archies came back in eternal out of pure anger. like this entire species is in hiding and they just decide to spin the block?

[uneven mortar]

Three headed archvile

[verbal void]

LOTS OF FIRE

[frail bloom]

Nope.

[fallow arch]

And also add some new bosses for the dragon it feels so underwhelming that the strongest enemy you fight is a big ass cacodemon

[frail bloom]

Uh

[gleaming vortex]

how do we tell him

[frail bloom]

Well

[verbal void]

Thats the strongest enemy? I thought enhanced ahzrak was.

[frail bloom]

Kinda an issue here

[uneven mortar]

Disappointed we never got an on foot fight with the giant caco

[frail bloom]

Serrat lost his life license

So uh

[uneven mortar]

He will get a cybernetic neck

[frail bloom]

Just let him rest

[verbal void]

Big ahh cacodemon couldn’t kill serrat. Enhanced ahzrak killed him

[uneven mortar]

Doomguy came back from the dead why cant serrat

[frail bloom]

Alr so we scale enhanced ahzrak above big caco

Power scaling in nutshell

[verbal void]

Because doomguy>doom verse

[fallow arch]

We don't control him tho

[frail bloom]

Serrat ain't that determined

[uneven mortar]

But doomguy is part of the doomverse

[frail bloom]

Or I guess have a plot point where slayer dies to bring serrat back

[uneven mortar]

Undertale ahh justification

[fallow arch]

Like you go back to find serrat in hell

[frail bloom]

[gleaming vortex]

serrat is going to be bones by the time we get there guys

[uneven mortar]

Skeletom dragon raw asf

[fallow arch]

Skeleton dragon from clash royale

[verbal void]

Im about to say the truth
Composite spiderman>doom slayer

[frail bloom]

...

Ok.

[gleaming vortex]

go, fireball

[frail bloom]

Moving on

[fallow arch]

Doomslayer is the second strongest video game character imo

[uneven mortar]

Dark ages archvile should ride a giant pinky

[verbal void]

Whos the first?

[gleaming vortex]

there was a horse motorcycle in one of the early concept arts lets just bring that back

[uneven mortar]

Becauze hes a noble

[frail bloom]

Are you trying to make me angry

[fallow arch]

Wukong

[frail bloom]

He should be triple the height of the imp stalker

[uneven mortar]

He's a noble dignified demon

[frail bloom]

He ain'r riding no pinky

[verbal void]

Oh that explains it(when my oc gets his video game he will be #1 fr)

[frail bloom]

Who can walk on his own thank you

[gleaming vortex]

ok because what the fuck do you mean hes seven times immortal, thats not how it fucking works

[uneven mortar]

Literally can not

[frail bloom]

He's not a baby

Let him grow up

[fallow arch]

Why not make him fly in a dragon and when the drag dies he fells down

[uneven mortar]

I aint seen him walk

[gleaming vortex]

i thought you said he wsnt a baby?

[frail bloom]

You're like great britain

Always taxing america

[gleaming vortex]

CACODEMON AIR BALLOON

[frail bloom]

Let em walk

[fallow arch]

He mastered 7 different types of immortality

[frail bloom]

Lets pretend they had discord in the 1700's

[fallow arch]

We need it

[gleaming vortex]

yeah i read journey to the west its still bullshit (affectionate)

[frail bloom]

I lost the convo what happened

[fallow arch]

Haveth thy heard about the new king? Thee so charismatic

[frail bloom]

Yes a certain charles who took off the tax

[uneven mortar]

ARCHVILE GETS A CROWN

[frail bloom]

We built a statue in his honor!

[fallow arch]

Splendid

[frail bloom]

Nope

[verbal void]

Ima go now cya

[frail bloom]

Byee

[dark thunder]

is it just me or do the controls feel less responsive

[sudden stump]

lol is it normal to have 0 hp but still be kept alive by armor?

[fallow arch]

He throws the crown at you dealing 150 damage

[frail bloom]

Are you using ssg

[fallow arch]

No I'm sure

[sudden stump]

damn well that just happened lol

[fallow arch]

Unless you lose hp and gain armor at the same frame

[dark thunder]

this is fuckin dumb they made the beginning of resurrection so much harder

[frail bloom]

Are you using ssg

[dark thunder]

partially

it feels extra slow with it

[frail bloom]

It has some bugs

Don't use it

[sudden stump]

at least they made the music of resurection kick ass right away

[uneven mortar]

Whens SSG getting fixed

[frail bloom]

It's in all levels now

Finally

[frail bloom]

Prob monday

[fallow arch]

Ssg was too op imo

[uneven mortar]

Does that mean tomorrow (timezone)

[dark thunder]

i have to see if the kreed is a harder fight now

[sudden stump]

so far the hardest part is the barrier no one knows to shoot the plasma gun at

[frail bloom]

Where do you live

[uneven mortar]

Australia

[frail bloom]

I'd say in two days

[dark thunder]

also feel like cacodemon and mancubus leader have more hp

[frail bloom]

Monday for us in America

[uneven mortar]

Ok cool

[frail bloom]

They do

Some changes are iffy

Not liking some of them

They'll find a middleground I'm sure

For now ssg is borderline poo

[dark thunder]

30 soldiers 15 heated metal shield soldiers 2 imp stalkers a cacodemon 1 cyberdemon 2 cosmic barons 2 aggadon champions and vagary champion

[fallow arch]

Ssg is prob the most nerfed gun

[dark thunder]

I did it but had to use the bfc

[frail bloom]

What do you call the preset

Usually we give them some cool name

[dark thunder]

ass pain

idk damnation or something

[frail bloom]

Like for example:
Here's the champions loadout

30 zombies, 5 energy soldiers, 3 stalkers, 3 pinky riders, 3 hell knights, 10 shield soldiers, 1 aggadon champion, 1 komodo champion, 1 vagary champion.

"Oops, all champions!"

[dark thunder]

could prob do that

[frail bloom]

Try it

A lot of ppl find it fun

[fallow arch]

It's now really that hard since I feel like aggadon and vagaries aren't that aggressive so you're mainly gonna fight the hell knights and komodo

Still seems fun

[frail bloom]

Ye try it

[fallow arch]

I will try it after finishing resident evil 4 remake

[dark thunder]

regular or superheated shield soldiers

[frail bloom]

Ehhh whatever you want really

I lean towards mix of both

You just need them as a source of armor

So actually I'd say heated

[fallow arch]

Can u beat the entire game using only skullcrusher pulverizer on nightmare

[frail bloom]

Yes

Rather easily too

[fallow arch]

I feel like you'll get hardstuck in the BFC arenas

[frail bloom]

Uh

Hey that's not fair

You use bfc for that

[sudden stump]

pulverizer has grown on me, didn't use it a lot at first

compared to ravanger anyway

it's fun to shoot pinkies upclose with it

[frail bloom]

Alr imma sleep before the nightmare stalker spawns in my closet

Damn it alr 10 more min

Spicy convo in qc chat

[uneven mortar]

Honestly I'm sad there aren't spectre pinkies!!

What were they thinking

[sudden stump]

pls no

evil

[uneven mortar]

They could even have the cool purple colour scheme

Purplies

[crude kite]

When is someone gonna make a tabletop layer or some sorta DIY campaign for this ripatorium

[uneven mortar]

Tabletop layer?

[crude kite]

I’m not creative enough to come up with my own challenges

[uneven mortar]

I think official ones r coming

[sudden stump]

spectre demons are a menace in this game with how dark maps are and how enemies aren't lit up like eternal. nightmare imps are already the worst

[uneven mortar]

The purple daze outline is so damn ugly, i just turned it off for my second run

They should flash like 2016

[tight finch]

Hello

[frail bloom]

Fun fact: throwing your shield on a dazed demon will cause a shockwave that falters other demons

[crude kite]

Like some sort of story or meta element to wrap around the ripatorium. Like how do we turn this from a tool into a structured campaign or roguelike. Ideally this would be a mod, but mods take time. Official content takes time. I feel like someone right now with the tools provided could come up with a basic tabletop game that involves certain rules and encounter settings to make a “campaign” in a sense

But I’m too lazy to come up with the whole thing myself. I just think there’s a lot of potential for mini campaigns and stuff but right now it’s more of DIY tool

[fallow arch]

It would have been great
If jumping from 5ft didn't kill every fodder

[frail bloom]

Give it time and it'll get those qol changes

Maybe a community tab for presets

Who knows

Except hugo

[solid nacelle]

Never knew about this until the mayo video. Then I got a loading screen tip about it some hours afterward

[frail bloom]

We should read those

They kinda just exist

But they have truth nukes

[solid nacelle]

Most of the time I only see the stand and fight one so I end up not caring and skip the super fast loading screen

[frail bloom]

Alr imma go sleep for real I can see the nightmare stalker in the corner of my room

[dark thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/conquest-stand-ready-for-my-arrival-stand-ready-for-my-arrival-worm-invincible-viltrumite-gif-6245258362361743117

im pulling up like this if i see a nightmare stalker

[fallow arch]

How u gonna see him

I have my parryable projectiles set to grey and I get caught off guard so many times

[dark thunder]

I'll start dressing up as the slayer and become a vigilante and then see the imps as criminals

FINISHING MOVE

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-ares-destroy-my-enemies-and-my-life-is-yours-gif-7965707800203237625

LET ME HEAR THE DLC SOUNDTRACK AND MY ALLEGIANCE IS TO YOU

[split gate]

You must wait, we must not interrupt their cooking

[dark thunder]

i'll go in cryo sleep

[split gate]

Tbh, we’re in for a treat, they would definitely look at the most viewed of their tracks and align the DLC with those kind of tracks

[dark thunder]

it will be peak

need more between hex and flame

[split gate]

I personally want more tracks like Blood Red, tracks like that make you headbang so much

[dark thunder]

blood red is peak

[velvet elbow]

5 days until I move to college

[velvet elbow]

I got everything I need to rip and tear, but it just won’t be the same 😔

[gleaming vortex]

its ok solaire we believe in you, rip and tear through the debt

[merry jackal]

[unique pelican]

Got the Platinum trophy

[lost lotus]

Anyone have any idea when is the discord doom profile decors gonna drop to store?

[merry sapphire]

did they drop a hotfix yet

[sudden stump]

not until monday

earliest anyway

[frank turtle]

hope they fix the ssg shield delay

[spare valve]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1210268585675587604/1404025542688247880/0810.mov?ex=6899b02e&is=68985eae&hm=e110cb67f36c0094e272abcb0f57d8e0d4f576526a13b6af3fa696d8415acb74& I love this new update

[fleet spruce]

Hellspawn Rift is such a cool track

[dusky idol]

Give me 1 Extra Life and i could solo all of them

[uneven dragon]

it's really underrated ngl

i never consciously play it but then i always jam to it when it gets autoplayed in my playlists

[meager vortex]

10 waves 600 demons kill

1 wave 60 demons

infinity wave maybe 600 more demons kill

[merry sapphire]

they confirmed a hotfix on monday?

[harsh egret]

no but they will get to working on it on monday, if they get everything done on monday then they will release the hotfix on monday

[neon perch]

Horde Mode is the ultimate 'I JUST MADE SOME BUUULLSHITTTT!!!!' vibes.

I can't stop sulking over how badly more than 4 heavies at a time throw off balance in this game. 3 barons at a time is straight up cancer.

[uneven mortar]

There should be a random option for the jukebox if there isnt already

[spare valve]

Yeah there already is

[hard thistle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5FTnnaTjB4

Just did this

It took a while but I eventually locked in pretty well

[spare valve]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1225563841119649793/1404083059774455908/0810_1.mov?ex=6899e5c0&is=68989440&hm=56a6998d2c1a7481f35aa42a424b5a2545f5902abc8748def6d8d7bc707a877b& Doom the dark ages is so easy🥱

[hard thistle]

that minimum parry window is no joke, but when you're running the game at 150% it doesn't matter too much since you need to be fast af anyways

[harsh egret]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-run2-gif-19781006

[hard thistle]

I already did Nightmare no weapon-upgrades, maybe nightmare 150% speed next?
(I did ultra-nightmare 150% but that was also with many other sliders altered to make it easy af)

[wheat sigil]

150% speed and min resources

[upbeat junco]

now do the opposite for ultra nightmare

[hard thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-ring-no-isildur-lord-of-the-rings-gif-5743603

Has anyone done max-difficulty ultra nightmare?

IIRC max-difficulty nightmare took 50 hours for Raitro (more than i have in the game)

[upbeat junco]

no

i dont think anyone is insane enough for that

[hard thistle]

yeah even when Raitro did that boss rush on max difficulty live after lots of practice, he still had deaths

now imagine that for a full game without deaths... yeah.

it isn't always the bosses who are the biggest roadblocsk. on my regular nightmare no-weapon upgrades run, one of the encounters in the last chapters (not a boss fight, just a horde of enemies) had me walled hard

[tropic adder]

I just found something that could've been taken as inspo for the 5 Sentinels that died for the Slayer and are shown and mentioned (and named) in both 2016 and Eternal, but are completely ignored in TDA. Probably in favor of... well you guessed it! It's sad to see such epic inspo taken from something amazing and even more epic gone to shit. A true story of devotion and brotherhood, only to be smeared away because fanservice and inserts that nobody asked for.

[delicate grotto]

If you read the lore you’d understand why the sentinels ghosts in 2016 aren’t relevant to TDA’s story…

[tropic adder]

You mean the filler until their living counterparts become relevant?

[delicate grotto]

Dude what filler are you talking about? This game is covering the beginning of the Slayer Testaments.

The beginning of the Unholy Wars

King Novik and Thira play into the lore just as much as the Night Sentinels do

[tropic adder]

Indeed it does. And it does it so well I can already see a long line of dairy products milked from the same thing.

[tropic adder]

No.

[hard thistle]

I really am the only one ?

[tropic adder]

Google says you're not. It suggest restarting the game, power cycle on console, or reinstall the game? o.O
Not sure how it all works tho. Try checking with official Bethesda page?

[green estuary]

I mean
That hasn’t even happened yet in TDA’s story? Not sure what you’re getting at

It’s like saying “they’re completely ignoring valen’s betrayal” when it hasn’t even taken place yet

[hard thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/okay-bulls-blazers-michael-jordan-idk-gif-5619473

interesting. I'm on PS5 but I have not had a single issue at all

only slight bug is the countdown timer at the start disappearing when I select weapon wheel and/or pause at the start, but that's no issue

[velvet elbow]

I will graduate with a bachelors in Jolly Cooperation

[hard thistle]

It mainly happen when i put 50-60 Monsters, not if i put max 30-40 monsters
Do you have tested with 60 Monsters at same time ?

[fallow arch]

Imagine fucking dying cause a singular soldier's projectile hit you

[solid nacelle]

Haw! I don't have to imagine!

[delicate grotto]

Honestly borderline impossible. That’s like beating the game hitless. So actually, it probably is impossible.

[green estuary]

also on max sliders, the nightmare/regular imp stalker's melee lunge will deal 200 damage and ignore death protection

[frail bloom]

Slade that probably didn't happen yet

[green estuary]

so an imp melee lunge would basically be an instant kill in 95% of scenarios

[harsh egret]

no cap i might be cooking with the ripatorium lmao

[delicate grotto]

I’ve crashed once on Ripatorium but I’ve had a total of 3 overall. Seems to occur when too many VFX or parries are being processed at once.

[frail bloom]

LEMME SEEEEEE

I'm bored

[harsh egret]

ill just have to beat it dude cuz this shit is crazy but it feels kinda sick

[frail bloom]

Oh wait I can draw my archvile now

[harsh egret]

might be too much

[frail bloom]

Do it

[delicate grotto]

I’m trying to find a balanced and fun setup for multiple waves.

[green estuary]

I kinda liked this preset of mine

[delicate grotto]

I’ll give this one a try

When I get the chance to

Is it one wave?

I hope so lol

[green estuary]

yeah it's one wave

[delicate grotto]

Sweet

[frail bloom]

They should also make it so you can change the area for each wave

If you want to

[harsh egret]

thats why i want hugo to come here for like 30 mins

he would get so much suggestions, assuming he hasnt already or hasnt planned all of this

[ancient oar]

how would i go about reporting a bug?

[frail bloom]

Ye I got like a billion

But nooooooo you gotta look in the youtube comments section full of jaded doom fans

[green estuary]

it's like most great games
the vocal minority makes it feel like the game has much worse reception than it actually does

[delicate grotto]

Absolutely

[green estuary]

like tag1 had some super vocal haters, and if you were to just listen to the guys who talked the loudest about it, you'd think that the dlc absolutely sucked

[frail bloom]

Ye but they're also those ppl who spam those comments the most and it's hard to find genuine criticism that also shares a solution

Like horde's solution for difficulty for example

Instead of buffing the mancubi, just add more mancubi

It was a good solution

I don't know why they just buffed health values so the time to kill is higher

[green estuary]

nah the health buff was warranted

[delicate grotto]

I kind of like the buffed resistances/health values. Mancubi felt a little too easy to deal with beforehand.

[frail bloom]

But I would rather fight more mancubi

[delicate grotto]

I getchu but you also gotta consider arena balance and placement

[green estuary]

well just consider this
before the health buff, whiplashes had more health than mancs did

so did pinkies

[frail bloom]

I know but they aren't really utilizing the demon amount that much

Like 60 demons is a lot to work with y'know

[wheat sigil]

gonna try to do the bfc encounter without bfc.. not gonna go well considering my skill level lolol😭

[frail bloom]

I actually did it without bfc and without the cheese tactic

[green estuary]

gl

[frail bloom]

I recommend grenade launcher

[fleet spruce]

I only saw the stories of how dreadfully difficult it was

[wheat sigil]

wasn't really a lot harder than final sin lol

[fleet spruce]

(beat it on fucking switch)

[green estuary]

exactly

[green estuary]

yeah honestly final sin bfg-less was similar to a lot of the stuff in tag1

[delicate grotto]

I agree with that statement. Devs kept advertising how much more processing power idtech 8 had and could handle more demons all at once, but 90% of the horde ends up being fodder with a max of 10 heavies being on screen. They definitely didn’t utilize its capabilities as much as I wish they did. Especially with how much space a lot of the arenas had, I was expecting bigger fights than what we got. Not dissing the game here, I’m glad they’re rebalancing a lot of the encounters, campaign still well paced for the most part.

[green estuary]

well half of me agrees with that sentiment
but the other half wants to remind you that this is still the base game

[harsh egret]

alr i made this but didnt beat it yet, ill try again when i have time

1 wave
10 soldiers
15 heated metal soldiers
5 energy shields
2 chaingunners
2 nightmare imps
2 armored arachno
1 mancubus leader
1 revenant leader
1 whiplash
2 acolytes

glhf lmk if u think its fun/not fun

[fleet spruce]

good god the boss of tag1 is still hardest single part of that entire game for me, i ended up using the sentinel armor buff which appears if you die too many times

[frail bloom]

Revenant leader?????

Oh hell naw

[wheat sigil]

dam okay the bfc encoutner wasn't as hard as expected

[harsh egret]

yees

[green estuary]

I actually found the boxes harder than samur
I legitimately close blood swamps before the boss fight every time I play it on repeat

[harsh egret]

yall try it if u want and let me know how it is

[green estuary]

it's just a lot of stuff
unless you're playing on mega gamespeed it isn't horrendous

[wheat sigil]

boxes are the easiest thing ever😭

[wheat sigil]

i'm doing 150% gamespeed🗣️

[green estuary]

oh well in that case congrats

[fleet spruce]

My only complaint about boxes is that they still haven't fixed the mixing for one of the hardest hitting tracks in the game 😭

[green estuary]

I don't wanna hear it

[delicate grotto]

True but there were definitely some arenas in the campaign that warranted a full blown battle and instead only threw a couple Imp Stalkers and other low tier heavies at you.

[solemn mauve]

Gonna try this, will update my experience ASAP

[meager vortex]

horde mode is good

[harsh egret]

I havent messed around with it so unsure but it was pretty damn hard for me

[green estuary]

like I can get through samur with maybe a couple deaths here and there
but I have legitimately only beaten the boxes a singular time on nightmare, and that took me well over 20 tries

[wheat sigil]

how

[harsh egret]

Well i tried like 3-4 times

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-know-gif-22592181

[harsh egret]

Just busy atm

[solemn mauve]

Oh, you know I actually found Horde Mode Gaming's harder, fun but hard. I'll see how your version goes. (min parry window, 100 game speed, nightmare)

[harsh egret]

Maybe swapping out heated shields or plasma shield guys for normal soldiers or zombies might be the play, since there isnt enough proper fodder and the shield downtime to kill them is kinda annoying against what i have

[upbeat junco]

jarvis, load the funny green rocket

[solemn mauve]

Ok, I'm going to DM you my screenshot results, I will say this tho. This was a decent combo and I would prefer this over Horde's, so yeah I had a good time

[harsh egret]

hell yeah im glad it was fun!

[frail bloom]

Ohhhh try mine

[solemn mauve]

Ok

[frail bloom]

Here's the champions loadout

30 zombies, 5 energy soldiers, 3 stalkers, 3 pinky riders, 3 hell knights, 10 shield soldiers, 1 aggadon champion, 1 komodo champion, 1 vagary champion.

[upbeat junco]

my man has that on a speed dial 🤣

[harsh egret]

lmao

[solemn mauve]

Ok this one could be interesting, going to update u asap

[harsh egret]

samir have u tried mine yet

[frail bloom]

I must spread

[frail bloom]

I'm not home so I can't

[harsh egret]

ah dang

[upbeat junco]

understandably so its a fun little fight

[harsh egret]

again, i cant wait until they add more stuff to customize each diff wave and other more in depth stuff, hopefully they do that

this mode has insane potential

[wheat sigil]

i am well aware that i died, but can you let me proceed??😭
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1188393862968922132/1404121037947539456/DOOM_The_Dark_Ages_Screenshot_2025.08.10_-_17.13.16.58.png?ex=689a091e&is=6898b79e&hm=882519936b94a1943ed31169ef26817fe4ac9318293d56a13b1c269af42c06b8&

can't press space or the ok button to proceed lmao

[green estuary]

you have died

https://tenor.com/view/okay-hi-ok-black-guy-gif-19319947

[nova badger]

"Devs kept advertising how much more processing power idtech 8 had and could handle more demons all at once, but 90% of the horde ends up being fodder with a max of 10 heavies being on screen"

Source?

[uneven mortar]

This feels less true after the update but i do hope we get bigger fights with more heavies in the DLC

[fallow arch]

When's a madlad gonna beat 70 komodos at once

[solemn mauve]

Ok it's done, this is fun too, yeah sending you my results in your dm

[hard thistle]

Once but I died almost immediately lol

[fallow arch]

Every champion and leader at once seems cool

[green estuary]

I mean if they're stacked on top of each other you could just bfc them

[hard thistle]

I usually fight with 5-10 monsters. My preference is duelling against Cyberdemon Leaders in ripatorium

[uneven mortar]

I really really hope when they drop, the official ripatorium setups have titles like "triple trouble" and whatever

[hard thistle]

Max-difficulty duelling is where it's at for me
#videos message

[fallow arch]

Vagaries are stronger than komodos

[hard thistle]

what I did, is basically playing sekiro lol

[fallow arch]

Never completed sekiro

[green estuary]

absolutely not lmao
vagaries are basically just free rune activation--the only thing you have to worry about with them is their acid pool

[hard thistle]

it is tough as nails but it has some fantastic bosses

[uneven mortar]

I think they're pretty much the same, you can kill a komodo faster but it's a higher risk encounter

[hard thistle]

and yeah it is parry-heavy

I'd rather fight a komodo than an acid boi

[uneven mortar]

Komodos are more fun

[upbeat junco]

i'd rather fight 9 aggadons than any of those 2

[fallow arch]

I feel like most komodos try to approach you head on so it's mainly a 1v1 unlike vagaries that are more of a support unit

[hard thistle]

I wonder if I did myself a disservice by only using the ravager on max difficulty against cyberdemons in ripatorium. to me it felt like the best choice

I did do a lot of testing beforehand, and of all weapons I tried, ravager was great

[green estuary]

I mean vagaries work better as a support unit because of the acid
but komodos are such pricks sometimes

[uneven mortar]

Komodo gives you the most options for how to kill them, which makes them the most fun enemy along with barons

[solemn mauve]

Yeah I've seen your video, it was sick man but I feel using the Accelerator would've been better imo

[harsh egret]

komodos r my fav to fight

i should make a ripatorium setup with komodos next

[fallow arch]

I think keeping them at medium range is the best way to go

[hard thistle]

thank you, glad you like it. I will definitely return to Ripatorium one day and then I might try accelerator more. I did use it before but the heat blast was something I found hard to plan out

[uneven mortar]

Cyberdemons are the least fun superheavy until you get the dreadmace, then it's fun to one-cycle them

[hard thistle]

They've always been my favorite, just love parrying em in melee range and taking them on like an equal

[uneven mortar]

The way cyberdemons stomp on you feels too goofy imo

[fallow arch]

Accelerator has ammo issues so if he's trying to fight like 15 cyberdemons it's kinda bad

[hard thistle]

It is extremely goofy lol
It reminds me of Consort Radahn from Elden Ring's DLC lol

[green estuary]

honestly that's most of the reason why I hate the dreadmace
it just trivializes big enemies to such an insane degree

[fallow arch]

Vagaries are this game cyberdemon

[hard thistle]

Oh no, one per round

[uneven mortar]

If they tried to kick you and it could send you flying back it would be interesting

[fallow arch]

Like aggadon hunters

[hard thistle]

several cybers at once would not be feasible on max difficulty

[uneven mortar]

Yeah same

[fallow arch]

Is it Agadon or aggadon

[green estuary]

one g, two ds

[uneven mortar]

Agaddon

Like add-on for a computer

[hard thistle]

I love the dreadmace a lot, granted on max difficulty, my damage is reduced so it feels like im equalizing the game

[solemn mauve]

Welcome, the heat blast is kinda meh, you could use it to Falter , tho not consistent at times. I would suggest u use the faster fire rate and the energy retainer rune where you can keep your red charged energy cells after not firing for some time

[uneven mortar]

Dreadmace needs a serious nerf sadly, i don't ever want to feel guilty about using a weapon

[fallow arch]

I think flail is quite underwhelming

[hard thistle]

but the fact that it can oneshot cacos unupgraded on base nightmare is quite something (pre-patch, still the case?)

[hard thistle]

noted, thanks

[fallow arch]

I think it's balanced (slightly above balanced) now after the adjustment to impaler and ground fissure

[nova badger]

Consider the opposite: would the demons ever feel guilty about using their most powerful weapons on you ? 🙂

[green estuary]

as of right now, an unupgraded dreadmace deals 22k direct + 5k splash
and cacos have 35k hp now thanks to the buff
so no, it can't one-shot a caco anymore

[hard thistle]

I do remember accelerator being among the weapons in testing that impressed me. I love Super shotgun to death, but when fighting fast cyberdemons and/or other foes where you need to parry a lot, fast rate of fire weapons just outclass it. I sometimes play a bit ad hoc

[uneven mortar]

Provably not lol

[fallow arch]

Yea,vagaries don't spam your ass with acid rounds

[green estuary]

accelerator just has the flat-out highest dps in the game tbf

[nova badger]

I absolve you of all guilt around using the Dreadmace 😉

[solemn mauve]

As long as you have the dread Mace and not missing your shots, it shouldnt be an issue. But fighting all 15 at the same time is horrendous

[green estuary]

such an unassuming gun but it absolutely melts stuff if you give it time to charge

[hard thistle]

I'll keep this in mind. It just feels really fun to keep the fire button down while fast-reacting to parries to assert dominance

[fallow arch]

In chapter 14,i once tried to glory kill a vagary,did it and got caught by like 16 different red projectiles

Couldn't even block lmao

[green estuary]

just shield bash

[nova badger]

Fair point

[fallow arch]

No enemies in range

[uneven mortar]

Do you guys think there will be a new superheavy in the DLC

[green estuary]

no, I mean if you shield bash into a dazed enemy it auto-executes them

[fallow arch]

I did that but I jumped

[green estuary]

oh you were trying to get the animation lol

[uneven mortar]

Omg what if they add the vassago in the DLC

[hard thistle]

i dunno

[fathom valley]

Which edition is the better one to buy with this discount

[hard thistle]

they added new enemies in past dlcs, I can't rule out the chance of them bamboozling us

[fallow arch]

I think they should bring back archviles,they are an ancient species,makes sense for them to be in tda

[wheat sigil]

pls make them walk this time lol

[uneven mortar]

There are like 4 demon types I'd rather see return before archviles

[fallow arch]

Make them mount a cacodemons like pinky riders

[uneven mortar]

Omg that would rule

[fallow arch]

I mean they are some big ass cacodemons that you fight as serrat

[uneven mortar]

They should add spectres back

[fallow arch]

They can't catch you off guard this game cause of the bright projectiles

[uneven mortar]

They'd just be melee

[fallow arch]

Hmm

[uneven mortar]

They'd run over and bite

Also nightmare imps use projectiles and still a threat

[fallow arch]

I think that would be great since pinkies in this game don't make much noise

[worn lion]

I think the vassago would be in a new Doom than in the DLC probably as a replacement of the Baron.

[solemn mauve]

Oh btw I'm going to give you a challenge run. Anyone reading this can try it too. So my Combo is just this

1 Aggadon Champion ( with 10 respawns)

Max difficulty sliders

I know it's just one, but lemme know how it goes for you and others.

[green estuary]

honestly I've yet to see a demon design in TDA that isn't amazing
so whatever new stuff they want to introduce I'm all for it

[fallow arch]

The DLC is gonna have 70 komodos in one level

[hard thistle]

I'll keep this in mind

[uneven mortar]

Honestly I think azhraks design is just good not great

[green estuary]

fair
although I was mostly just considering the normal demons we fight

didn't really think about the bosses

[fallow arch]

The only bad part about this game is the berserk
I get it that it ruins the flow of the game and u get infinite bfc but I think tearing apart komodos would be great (ik it doesn't work for this game)

[uneven mortar]

I agree the berserk is a waste of good level design

[green estuary]

yeah I did wish that it just gave us our fists to bash stuff in with

[uneven mortar]

I would have preferred to see quad damage return

[fallow arch]

We have inbuilt quad damage this time

[solemn mauve]

Speaking of Berserker Power up, I Dont know if anyone knows about this but if you get it, your BFC will have Infinite ammo. But sadly I think it's been patched

[wheat sigil]

did some random 60 demon combo in the ripatorium, gonna die so fast lol

[solid nacelle]

Yeah I tried it yesterday on resurrection and it didn't work

[fallow arch]

Aside from my first playthroughs and my un run,i never used the bfc

w/ berserk*

[fallow arch]

Guess we're gonna have to spam dreadmace now

[wheat sigil]

nvm this was kinda fun

[solemn mauve]

Oh wait... You have infinte melee charges if you have berserk?

[fallow arch]

I think the dlc should explore more of the cosmic realm

[fallow arch]

Yea,idk if it's been patched,I'm mainly trying out the ripatorium now

[uneven mortar]

Is there a random button?

[solemn mauve]

Not yet

[fallow arch]

60 old ones

[wheat sigil]

no

[uneven mortar]

The doom 3 guardian of hell would totally fit into TDA

[fallow arch]

I never played doom 3,but I heard that it's a survival horror

So is it just resident evil 4 2005?

[green estuary]

absolutely not lol

[hexed dagger]

Alright so what has Hugo talked about at the con? For the future of tda

[fallow arch]

So it's unique?

[hexed dagger]

Surprised nobody has made a reddit post yet

[uneven mortar]

That's a generous word for it

It's like dead space but boring

[fallow arch]

hmm

[green estuary]

oh yeah
you're still blasting demons to pieces but the ambience is more dark and there's more of a horror feel to it
also the shotgun is kinda ass, which is pretty rare in a doom game

[fallow arch]

After the ssg nerf,which is the best weapon to use the first wraitstone on

[green estuary]

depends on what you want

[fallow arch]

I don't know how but shotguns even in the og doom games feel balanced

[harsh egret]

ngl triple battleknight leader is kinda fun in ripatorium

should name the setup "parry slop" (sarcasm)

[solemn mauve]

Ok going to try that now

[fallow arch]

Aggressive melee enemies are fun

[green estuary]

if you just want the objectively best option then just go all in on the impaler

[fallow arch]

I think impaler's last upgrade isn't that great until mission 15

[green estuary]

even with the gauntlet it's really good

[harsh egret]

yeah i did that and one acolyte and a mix of imps and night mare imps and fodder

[fallow arch]

gauntlet are easy to recharge

[harsh egret]

if u couldnt tell yes i like the acolyte

[solemn mauve]

Lemme add them too

[harsh egret]

ground fissure is pretty strong against the battleknight leaders btw

[green estuary]

yeah
but since they scale so high with the number of strikes you deal, basically always having a fourth melee strike is huge

[harsh egret]

so its up to u if u wanna use it or not, but its fun for sure

[green estuary]

iirc the 4th strike deals the same damage as the first 3 combined

[fallow arch]

Fourth melee is only accessible via parrying

[harsh egret]

less challenging than my other one for me, but its fun

[solemn mauve]

All this time I've been using heaven splitter, I should change my runes from time to time, OK so ground fissure it is cuz of the armor damage

[fallow arch]

It's cause of the melee ammo

[harsh egret]

the flater is so strong also cuz they group up so if u parry one of them u likely falter all of them

[fallow arch]

Prenerf you could get upto 3 dreadmace shots back to back

[green estuary]

yes, and it only triggers when you have a full three charges
so if you basically always have 3 charges because of the impaler, you get a fourth strike basically whenever you want

[fallow arch]

I mean since it requires any hellsurge attacks and not projectiles,you will mostly always have two parryable attacks (it takes 2 to refill it)

[uneven mortar]

I also wanna know this

[hexed dagger]

Only thing I know what right now is they’re fixing the super shotgun to not be unusable on Monday

[fallow arch]

The general classification of shield runes
Ground fissure: Armor,use it if you don't like combat shotgun
Holyswarm: Insane burst damage,can melt most enemies with a single projectile party
Autoturret:Lower dps than holyswarm but has a tiny bit of healing (use ground fissure over it tbh)
Shock rune:Falter lmao

[harsh egret]

doesnt mean patch will be out on monday so keep that in mind

but its prob a quick fix so if they only do that and some other stuff, then yeah monday

theres more than that they kinda need to fix that i doubt takes one day

[hexed dagger]

I feel like that would be pretty horrible word choice if they didnt hotfix Monday

Especially considering how brutal the bug is

[fallow arch]

The only weapon that imo can never be balanced is skullcrusher,it's always gonna be bad tbh

[harsh egret]

they prob will do that for the ssg for sure

[uneven mortar]

I'm playing very slowly so I don't reach ch5 for a bit

I don't wanna get the SSG until the fix

[fallow arch]

Just use the impaler instead of it

[hexed dagger]

What else is that broken?

[harsh egret]

i might be the only one that actually doesnt mind the ssg being like this now

[fallow arch]

I'm pretty sure an enhanced impaler headshot deals the same damage as ssg now

[green estuary]

well if you feel like you have enough gauntlet charges, then the chainshot's wraithstone upgrade is really good, and so is the accelerator and cycler's

[delicate grotto]

Well for one look at the specs, idtech 8 is a much more powerful engine so by default it’s going to be able to handle more. There were a few statements on the short X tidbits released weeks before the release talking about the differences with TDA’s performance and capabilities. I can’t go find them for you because I don’t have an X account. The wiki on idtech engines explicitly states it being capable of handling more enemies at once. Press conferences overviewing the engine had also praised its processing power. Multiple articles restating how much more idtech 8 can handle and plenty of reviews claiming there to be a lot more enemies on screen at once. While not all of these sources come directly from the developer’s mouths, the engine itself proves to be more than capable of handling 50+ demons on screen at once.

But to be fair to your concerns, I misspoke. It wasn’t directly advertised as it was implied in a lot of promotional articles and visuals.

[solemn mauve]

I mean I wished the mancubus wasn't buffed in health, otherwise I wouldn't mind the nerf too

[hexed dagger]

I feels like is unusable vs aggressive demons like barons because if you shoot it’s like a full second before you can block

[harsh egret]

not broken persay but just some tweaks they could make like theres some slowmo bugs when using 0% still, sometimes u get ultra slowmo for like a few secs, sometimes u get 100% slowmo for a parry here and there, some small quick changes also to the ripatorium like keeping the same loadout not having stuff reset every time

[fallow arch]

I only used it for barons and cyberdemons

[green estuary]

that wasn't an intended part of the nerf
it's gonna be fixed soon

[uneven mortar]

Have id talked about nerfing the dreadmace anymore? Or are they happy with the balance

[fallow arch]

Barons in this game feel more threatening

[fallow arch]

I think it's only slightly better than the gauntlets now

[solemn mauve]

On 150 game speed, they are terrifying for sure

[hexed dagger]

That’s what we were talking about lol

[green estuary]

I think this is probably the last balance change we'll see for a while

[fallow arch]

They're the most aggressive enemies in this game tbh

[uneven mortar]

Barons being hyper aggressive melee was such a good decision that sets them apart from the cyberdemon's slow ranged pressure

[solemn mauve]

Yup

[harsh egret]

also they need to fix collision on some of the ripatorium maps cuz ive fallen through the maps 3 times now

[wheat sigil]

barons are super awesome

[hexed dagger]

So when the baron attacks 35 times a second when can you actually shoot?

[uneven mortar]

You parry twice and they usually falter right??

It's just timing

[hexed dagger]

Sure you could just only shoot on falters

That feels kinda cheeks though

[uneven mortar]

Clang, clank, shoot

[solemn mauve]

Not only that but I NEED the water areas to be removed, you move weird when running on it and it slows you too

[hexed dagger]

Every other gun can work in shoots

[fallow arch]

I'm pretty sure on prepatch you can shoot it and block

[hexed dagger]

Exactly

That’s why I’m saying it’s so bad now lol

[fallow arch]

Ssg before was broken

[hexed dagger]

Why would I ever use it right now instead of the impaler or chainshot?

[fallow arch]

I'm pretty sure it had the highest single shot damage of all weapons aside from cooked rpg and bfc prenerf

It still does now but the major enemies you used it to fight against are more resilient now

[green estuary]

well no kidding
that's kinda what the ssg is supposed to be

[hexed dagger]

Depends on the enemy. Impaler headshots did more to some demons. Cooked rocket clears though

[uneven mortar]

I mean it doubleshots basically everything still

[fallow arch]

I think after the patches impaler probably has the highest dps

[solemn mauve]

For the Impaler, if your doing headshots only then yeah, otherwise it's accelerator

[fallow arch]

Mainly cause it's one of the weapons where nearly every shot can be an enhanced shot

[solemn mauve]

Yeah the empowered shots too

[fallow arch]

They should just remove the second upgrade path for impaler and shotgun atp, they're just so bad

[green estuary]

funny how they thought the ssg was broken, but then they proceeded to buff the damage on the gun that turns tda into a point click adventure game

balance

[solemn mauve]

Why do they do this stuff for single player games I have no idea

[uneven mortar]

Every time i see this comment i go into a blind rage, good balance is important for a game's experience and lifetime

[green estuary]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-morgan-freeman-true-nodding-gif-13973817878387504960

[hexed dagger]

Yeah

[uneven mortar]

Imagine if they just left the game untouched and the gun that's broken on release just ruined the replay value for years later, cough cough gauss cannon

[green estuary]

also they really need to improve the encounter in the spire of nerathul before you fight the komodo champion

super weak

[mental grotto]

Yeah good balance is important for a game’s health, but the balance changes are so frequent and all over the place that it’s unhealthy. It’s like they’re just throwing shit at a wall and seeing what sticks

[green estuary]

also they added a respawning arachnotron to the komodo champion fight

[uneven mortar]

Doesn't feel that way at all for me, every TDA uodate has felt very purposeful outside of unintentional bugs

[green estuary]

frequent?

[solemn mauve]

So are you like super angry at me right now? Should I delete my comment?

[sudden stump]

The changes are based off of the player stats they track in every arena, not really just throwing shit at a wall

[uneven mortar]

No

[green estuary]

afaik the ssg has been changed all of 2 times
once they made hell knights take less damage to it, and the second time is this past update

first change I liked, second not so much

[mental grotto]

For the most part yeah, but stuff like increasing swap speed, nerfing ssg to oblivion, just seems very weird and out of touch to me

[uneven mortar]

Whattt

Increasing swap speed?? Out of touch??

[sudden stump]

lol what swap speed change was goated

[uneven mortar]

That's like the most in-touch thing i can imagine

The SSG nerf personally has made the game much more fun and engaging for me, but IDK about everyone else

[wheat sigil]

yeah balancing is very important

[mental grotto]

Well you’re right, not so much anymore. But after launch with those active tunables, having to check the website every single day to see what changed

[sudden stump]

SSG is still good if you land all the pellets like you're supposed to.... Block delay bug needs to be fixed though

[mental grotto]

It definitely needed a nerf, I just personally think they overdid it

[uneven mortar]

We live in an era where updates and patches can be used as a tool to polish singleplayer games until they're perfect, and Id are like, the only AAA company actually taking advantage of that

[green estuary]

not really for me tbh
I already switched weapons a bunch because it was fun and it felt good to use the best weapon for each specific purpose
if I want to be forced to swap because some enemies just have unexplainable resistances to certain weapons, I play eternal

[wheat sigil]

that's not really the case in eternal though? (except tag2 fuk that)

[sudden stump]

You're not forced to swap in eternal lol

Besides spirits I guess

[uneven mortar]

Eternal gives enemies weaknesses more than resistances

[wheat sigil]

not even there

[sudden stump]

Yeah you can just let them die off on their own

But if you use grenades and blood punch and falter everything you rarely if ever need to switch weapons in general

[wheat sigil]

yeah, spirits are multi-layered enemies with a few approaches not many consider

[mental grotto]

We don’t talk about tag2 💀

[wheat sigil]

yuup hahah

[uneven mortar]

Idk, my first run I felt extremely under-pressured to use all my guns, and it was my single big issue with the game

[mental grotto]

Yeah we added a bunch of new reskinned enemies that you can only kill ONE way because.. because… you just have to, okay???

[green estuary]

yeah I suppose eternal's encouragement to weapon swap doesn't mostly come because of enemy resistances

[solemn mauve]

Idk man but have you played eternal?

[sudden stump]

800 hours yes

[uneven mortar]

I mean that's how game mechanics be

[solemn mauve]

Nightmare difficulty?

[green estuary]

that's the thing
I really couldn't care less if the game puts pressure on me to use all my guns, because I use a lot of them anyway
I have eternal for that

[sudden stump]

Only ever played nightmare lol

Like really though if you just falter everything you can play however you want

[uneven mortar]

I wasn't really swapping them, I guess it doesn't come naturally to me

[solemn mauve]

Either you are joking or you are a one of a kind

[wheat sigil]

the encouragement to weapon switch almost only arises from 2 reasons: maximizing arsenal's utility, and maximizing dps

but, you can beat anything without quick swaps

needing them is (to me mostly) just a sign that you can't actually sustain yourself in battle

[uneven mortar]

I felt like ammo pressure was a big reason for me to swap

But I'm not a high level player

[wheat sigil]

ammo pressure is really overhyped, i've played with ssg only and barely needed to swap

you get 7,5 shots each 18 seconds lol

[mental grotto]

Ammo pressure is a problem before like, the first 2 ammo upgrades lol

[uneven mortar]

A lot of the time I only had rockets left for a bit

[wintry nexus]

You should switch things Up more often

[wheat sigil]

+potential pickups

which give 4 ssg shot per pickup btw

more if you're on ITYTD

[unkempt dragon]

oh I see how it is M1

[wheat sigil]

oh yeah i use my entire arsenal with all the mods, except for super weapons, that's just something i've tried

[green estuary]

I mean I rarely quickswap and I still make do on nightmare
but at some point it's kinda annoying how much easier quickswapping makes the game

[wintry nexus]

He’s gonna go to his home and kill him

[wheat sigil]

i'll read yo dm now!

[orchid rover]

No slowdown makes the game way harder than I thought

[unkempt dragon]

I will pb+ssg M1

[green estuary]

yeah

[orchid rover]

Since it was designed with that slowdown in mind

[wintry nexus]

Exactly

[uneven mortar]

I've got slowdown at 40% and it seems to feel good

[sudden stump]

It directly reduces the amount of time you have to make a decision. I think a lot of people underestimate that

[orchid rover]

It's fucking crazy man

[green estuary]

it's not because it was designed with the slowdown in mind
you just have to actually know parry timings and falter windows now instead of getting this big ass slow mo window to react to them

[uneven mortar]

I've been using the slowdown button on purpose more

[orchid rover]

I might even keep like 20-50%

The slowdown only felt truly clunky in large encounters where you parry and melee repeatedly

[wintry nexus]

Slowmo maxed out, game speed 50

[mental grotto]

I was shocked by how fast the melee attacks are with no slowmo lol. Seems like you can combo with the flail just as fast as you can with the gauntlets

Will probably play around with the slider at some point

[solemn mauve]

By the time the first parry hits, I would be an old man by that time

[wintry nexus]

😭

[wintry nexus]

Wdym slowdown

[mental grotto]

Slowmo rather

[wintry nexus]

Ohhhh

[wintry nexus]

But yea, it’s pretty cool, I’m happy they made this decision

[mental grotto]

Definitely, makes the gameplay a lot faster and flow better

[wintry nexus]

They already made the dreadmace slower to hit anyway so I feel like it evens out

[wheat sigil]

oh yeah quick swaps certainly make the game a lot easier, but they also have a bit of a skill floor to them, and they don't solve all your problems either
good fundamentals can solve all your problems, quick swaps can make your problems easier

the flame belch and flaming hook has a bigger impact on the difficulty of whatever you're playing, honestly if quick swaps had a lesser effect it'd be weird

[mental grotto]

I think they should do this with the flail as well, it doesn’t feel intentional that you can combo with them at the same speed as the gauntlets

But I also think flail needs a damage buff…

[wintry nexus]

Eh, I’d rather let them keep it

I don’t think it would take long to hit a flail anyway

[uneven mortar]

Flail honestly does feel a little fast

[mental grotto]

Okay I’m glad it’s not just me

[wintry nexus]

And it’s 2 against one, shit

[mental grotto]

Nah I don’t hate it where it is, I’m just trying to say it feels unintentional

With slowmo the flail is noticeably slower than the gauntlets, without they’re pretty much the same speed. Feels like a bug/mistake

[wintry nexus]

Is it just me or does my walking/sprinting speed slow down when I parry

[uneven mortar]

Yeah it feels balanced it just looks a little too speedy for such a big heavy weapon

[uneven mortar]

Like the slow-mo?

[mental grotto]

Yeah exactly. If I had it my way, I’d have them slow down the flail a bit and buff its damage

[wintry nexus]

I turned off slowmo, but after I parry, it slows down my character

is it supposed to be like that or am I just a dumbass- 😭

[uneven mortar]

Might just be a normal feature hidden by the regular slow-mo

[mental grotto]

It’s way too cool of a weapon for it to mainly be for resource collection, it’s a lot of fun comboing with it but it feels like I’m smacking the demons with a paper napkin sometimes

Great at breaking armor though

[wheat sigil]

yeah the flail isn't particularly deep either

[green estuary]

an upgraded flail strike deals 2100 damage to the primary target
the dreadmace deals 32000

[mental grotto]

Or maybe keep the damage where it is and make it a tool for faltering? Idk if I was a mancubus I’d fucken stumble if I got smacked in the head by a 15 pound ball of solid steel

[solemn mauve]

True, well it's the only melee weapon I use to get armor, I see a group of fodder boom insta armor lol

[uneven mortar]

What do you think abt the dreadmace

[green estuary]

big bonk stick
simple as

[mental grotto]

I’m not the first to say it but switching melee weapons seamlessly (thru a hotkey) would be very nice

[solemn mauve]

Ok idk where you got the numbers, but if you know.. What about the gauntlets?

[solemn mauve]

Bro speaking facts, and I'm pretty sure Hugo will do something about this

[green estuary]

game files
gauntlet deals 1000/3000/8000 damage with each successive strike
finisher upgrade increases the third strike damage to 12000, and the fourth strike is 16000

and shock makes enemies take something like 20% extra damage iirc

[mental grotto]

I think so too, it’s been requested quite a lot

[solemn mauve]

Oh shi, OK nice

[mental grotto]

So flail is just ass lmao

[green estuary]

yeah

[mental grotto]

It’s a shame really

[green estuary]

it might be ok on higher resource values
but since it looks like flail armor drops are affected by that, it really sucks on higher difficulties especially

[uneven mortar]

A Bigg Shame Here, you might say

[solemn mauve]

[mental grotto]

Because it feels so good to throw into combos against heavy demons but it doesn’t do dick for damage

[green estuary]

yeah when you have a baron with 60k hp
just shooting them does more good than hitting them with a flail combo

[uneven mortar]

Has hugo mentioned buffing flail

[mental grotto]

I think damage buff or making it have a very high falter chance would be good changes. Or maybe both

[green estuary]

I could make a mod and put it on nexus for all the pc players

but surprisingly I haven't heard anything about an official flail buff

[solemn mauve]

When I first played this game, I thought that the Flail would be THE melee weapon, no need of gauntlets or the Mace. When I realised that it didn't deal that much damage I just lost it lmao, it looks dangerous and just couldnt do an acceptable amount of damage smh

[mental grotto]

I haven’t either

[mental grotto]

Ikr!!! It was such a big part of the game’s marketing, I’m looking at my collector’s edition statue with that damn flail in his hands right now, and the thing sux

[solemn mauve]

Lmao yeah

[green estuary]

and to add insult to injury, they specifically gave fodder imps damage mitigation so they wouldn't be killed in one flail strike

[solemn mauve]

Maybe I should take back what I said about single player games needing to be balanced

[mental grotto]

Bro THIS is the dumbest shit

It feels so bad to smack an imp with this thing and have it NOT die 😭

[green estuary]

yeah fodder imps have 1k hp iirc, and they specifically put a max damage value in the code so that the flail would not deal more than 600 splash damage to them

[solemn mauve]

Wow

Yeah it clearly needs a buff now ffs

[mental grotto]

I’m surprised I haven’t seen more people talking about this though

[green estuary]

probably because literally nobody uses it

[wheat sigil]

looks boring

[mental grotto]

I guess the game has more pressing balancing issues, but still

[solemn mauve]

Idk if u know this, but I'm betting you there's going to be a new melee weapon in the dlc. If what I've seen from some of the cut content of TDA, there was a throwable axe (like the marauder from battle mode)

So I guess they might bring that back

For the dlc

[mental grotto]

I have seen that, I’d be willing to bet if a new melee weapon comes it won’t be that, but I guess you never know

It’s definitely possible. My money is on a chain shot variant

[solemn mauve]

Perhaps, yeah at least I hope it actually does something unlike the Flail

[solemn mauve]

Interesting......

[green estuary]

yeah there's already a reaver variant in the game code

[solemn mauve]

That weird purple ball shooter gun?

[mental grotto]

Idk, it’s the only main weapon without a variant and we’ll likely be headed to the cosmic realm at some point in the DLC

That’s my rationale

[solemn mauve]

Yeah... That makes sense lol

[mental grotto]

Yeah I’ve seen this as well. They definitely experimented with a variant

Idk, regardless I know we’ll be getting some new shit for our arsenal. I can say that pretty confidently

Whether it’s a melee weapon, gun, new shield runes, or something entirely new

[solemn mauve]

That's Def gonna happen and I'm hoping for the crucible or something similar to go for the shield.

We can actually be like a knight with sword and shield

[mental grotto]

Hold up, what if: sword for a melee weapon⁉️

[solemn mauve]

Inb4 Hugo reads this

[mental grotto]

lol I don’t think he goes in here at all unfortunately

[solemn mauve]

Ah that sucks

[mental grotto]

Someone who watches Hugo’s stream yell at him in chat “flail buff and sword melee weapon” for me

[sudden stump]

I think the point is to use it for armor gathering. Wouldn't be able to gather lots of armor if it just one hit fodder

It needs a buff though yeah, dunno how though

Armor is useful but it becomes less useful as you learn to get hit less

[wintry nexus]

I wish they could’ve brought back the marauder in tda

[solemn mauve]

You never know

[obsidian shard]

Civil War has not happened yet

[sudden stump]

The civil war hasn't happened - yeah

[wintry nexus]

DLC?? Maybe, perhaps, perchance??🧐

[obsidian shard]

We are in the Unholy Wars

[obsidian shard]

Civil war is Not DLC

[solemn mauve]

Ok ok, but there will be multiple Dlc's right??????

[obsidian shard]

Nor is Sarcophagus

[wintry nexus]

Omg you have no jolly

🙄🙄

[obsidian shard]

Nope only one

[obsidian shard]

I WANT LORE

[solemn mauve]

.... what.....

[obsidian shard]

One BIG one

[wintry nexus]

I can’t joke about anything anymore 😭

[obsidian shard]

What?

[solemn mauve]

No no hold up. When I see the newsfeed in the main menu, I see something Dlc related stuff and it literally says 'DLC 1'

[obsidian shard]

Hugo And Josh have Confirmed there will only be 1 DLC, I'm sorry

[delicate grotto]

Here’s a fun Ripatorium Setup if anyone wants to try it out. I liked it at least:

10 minutes
3 waves

20 zombies
10 soldiers
5 heated metal soldiers
5 energy soldiers
3 imps
2 stone imps

2 imp stalkers
1 nightmare imp
1 Hell knight
1 battle knight
2 Arachnotrons
1 armored Arachnotron
2 armored Mancubi
2 revenants
2 whiplashes

1 cosmic baron

[wintry nexus]

I was joking about the marauders being in the dlc but you came in saying it didn’t happen yet, LIKE I KNOW DUDE

[solemn mauve]

Oh.... I see 🙁

[obsidian shard]

My bad 😭

[obsidian shard]

Peam

[wintry nexus]

I’m gonna save this to check it out later

[frail bloom]

Gaa damn

Look at all those enemies

Make sure y'all save your presets

[wintry nexus]

I like enemies

The more the merrier

[solemn mauve]

Thanks for this, I will save this and try it later will send you my results in your dm

[delicate grotto]

It’s pretty fun but I’m also a decent player so it might be too much for general players lol
You all can lmk though. I beat it twice pretty quickly.

I preferred it on the Harbor of Souls map

[wintry nexus]

You know who else got beat pretty quickly?

Me

[obsidian shard]

What

[harsh egret]

first thing i see when i open the chat

[solemn mauve]

Oh hey Samir, I've sent you a dm, check it out I had a good time with your preset

[wintry nexus]

Ikr, it’s so fun

[frail bloom]

I know

Thanks!

Good job

[wintry nexus]

Samir better make more or I swear I’m gonna come to your house and steal your ps5

[solemn mauve]

Lmao

[frail bloom]

I'm busy drawing the archvile

Rn I'm converting sticknode pieces into draw cartoon 2 pieces

And then I can take it from there

[solemn mauve]

You not trying to summon it are you? 🔥

[wintry nexus]

Dammit

[frail bloom]

Bout to show y'all the might of the flame boi

[frail bloom]

Plus, I'm not home

So I can't really play around with anything now

[wintry nexus]

I hated that fuck in the original doom

[frail bloom]

With a passion

[wintry nexus]

Now my opinion has changed

Kinda

[solemn mauve]

Lol

[wintry nexus]

Vega fuck off

[frail bloom]

You hate him in love

[solemn mauve]

Plutonia ptsd am I right?

[frail bloom]

I love to hate him

Eternal archie not so much

He's just annoying

[wintry nexus]

Yea, he’s not that bad

[frail bloom]

Not bad and an important piece

[solemn mauve]

That maze level filled with archvile from plutonia. I had to take breaks in between man

[wintry nexus]

Tho I WILL crucible the hell outta him I get the chance

[frail bloom]

But like so immobile

[wintry nexus]

I swear I’d be having fun then I’d see him summon stuff

Smile wiped right off

Chat wake the hell up omg

[solemn mauve]

Yeah I'm awake, how long was I gone for?

[obsidian shard]

NOO, Im working

[wintry nexus]

On what

Your social skills?

BOOM

[green estuary]

[wintry nexus]

Gottem

[hard thistle]

Berserk went from a unique and distinct power-up to 'you're god now'

[wintry nexus]

Yes

[green estuary]

ok so have they just added respawning arachnotrons to every superheavy fight in the game or what

[slow zodiac]

basically

[hard thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-substance-film-confused-look-around-margaret-qualley-gif-6144007324417415939

respawning arachnotrons...? in this economy?

[obsidian shard]

My job

[solemn mauve]

No not this movie

[hard thistle]

oh well I guess it shouldn't be that bad lol

[obsidian shard]

Don't need to work on those I'm a Social Mosquito

[hard thistle]

sorry lol
I liked it and I like to use this as a reaction gif

[solemn mauve]

It dis-disgusts me

[hard thistle]

That is very understandable. those last few minutes were

enough blood to fill a classic doom game

[pallid wedge]

too bad the Ripatorium does not have pre-made presets 🙁

[solemn mauve]

Hold up imma going to the restroom......... puking noises

[hard thistle]

playing doom and other crazy games, I got desensitized to movie gore basicalyl

[green estuary]

also can someone tell me if caco projectiles have gotten like 2x faster or if it's just me

[solemn mauve]

I wished I could have your mindset if I was exposed to something like that 🙁

Ahhhh

[hard thistle]

I guesso
In either case Ima boot up PS5 to have a 'talk' with Agaddon champion

[solemn mauve]

Oooooh right, OK lol good luck man

[mental grotto]

Jarvis send this person cartel beheading compilation #35

[hard thistle]

I stray away from real-life stuff

[mental grotto]

Good lmao

[hard thistle]

And moldy food does disgust me viscerally. I guess food is sacred for me

[mental grotto]

Don’t be that weird kid in 3rd period math class in 9th grade who’s like “bro check this out” and it’s just a fucking liveleak video

[hard thistle]

I can't because I'm neither in 9th grade and I hear liveleak is deadge so you're good 👍

[solemn mauve]

Ok I'll give you a tip, just use the Impaler and get headshots, since it's 50% damage you can do it. Use any melee you like.

[hard thistle]

thankss

[solemn mauve]

No slow mo tho

[hard thistle]

no slomo? I'm on console

[solemn mauve]

No no as in the options menu, you can adjust the slow mo

[hard thistle]

I never looked into that, lemme take a look and disable it

[solemn mauve]

Ok Good luck

[green estuary]

bro didn't look at the no slow mo slider

when that's literally the thing that was talked about the most for this update

[hard thistle]

Because I love the slo mo

I didn't care to remove it. but I'll make an exception. I'll re-enable it when I'm 'done' with this run (aka when I either finish or give up)

[solemn mauve]

Hey you do you, it's OK if you want to do it with slow mo

[hard thistle]

OK

(I was not planning to disable it anyways lol)

[solemn mauve]

Right lol

[alpine pilot]

where doom

[hard thistle]

yeah I knew about the slomo update, I just didn't care to check because I was after Ripatorium

lemme try some attempts

[solemn mauve]

You don't have to record it, just send the screenshot results to my dm or in this discord

[wintry nexus]

Is doom

[brazen vortex]

Good day my fellow slayers

[hard thistle]

I don't think this is for me dawg

I appreciated the suggestion but Agaddon Champions aren't my thing

[solemn mauve]

Oh shi, Fr?

[hard thistle]

I think there's another more skilled and agaddon-loving player around here

[brazen vortex]

They're definitely mine

[hard thistle]

Sorry m8 lol, I got choices to make in life

but again I appreciate the suggestion

[brazen vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/liar-liar-on-to-me-jim-carrey-gif-14970388

[hard thistle]

ima check out what pure hell knight level loosk like (one of my favorite demon types)

[brazen vortex]

For me the aggadon is definitely this game marauder, I find the challenge fun, and he gets easier the more I fight him

[solemn mauve]

Nah nah that's fine, I just wanted to hear others opinion on my challenge run. OK you know what you can reduce the game speed and make the parry window default nightmare if you want to. Or nvm you don't have to do the Aggadon fights lol

[spare valve]

They need to add an oiled up slayer skin

[brazen vortex]

I beg your finest pardon-

[spare valve]

Its what we want

[solemn mauve]

Ok so you are an Aggadon fan? Let me give u a challenge run

[brazen vortex]

Bet

[solemn mauve]

K gonna send u a dm

[brazen vortex]

Aight

[solemn mauve]

Ok done, when you're done, send me your results with a screenshot or a video to my dm

[brazen vortex]

I got no dm my guy-

[solemn mauve]

Wait what

[brazen vortex]

Ah nvm there we go

[spare valve]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1288902538036383774/1404169201849208893/0809_41.mov?ex=689a35f9&is=6898e479&hm=145d693a9f00d5ca944e9643693f87099b0e45acdbb563a0efc6ab4fdb8a954a& I wish this was kept in the game

[solemn mauve]

Haha I know about this, that blursed ballista

[spare valve]

I miss the axe🥀

[solemn mauve]

Who knows they could bring it back in the dlc

[spare valve]

I mean they could but it would not be as good as it was going to be I'm pretty sure the shield throw replaced it as I'm pretty sure you only threw the axe to stun an enemy

[harsh egret]

yh that makes sense

[green estuary]

agaddons are like marauders
simple to beat 1v1 but when their AI starts acting up it can get spicy really quickly

[solemn mauve]

Oh damn, well in that case the sheild's better. However I do hope we get A Sword (crucible maybe ) as the new melee weapon, combine it with shield and you're basically a Templar

[solemn mauve]

It's that stupid red projectile attack that catches me off guard

[green estuary]

yeah you can be standing right on top of him but he still sometimes throws it

I've been getting it waaay more often in my last playthrough--I'm thinking they tweaked his AI with the update

[wheat sigil]

really wish you could change only the enemies' speed like you could via console commands in eternao

[green estuary]

ai_haste doesn't work? damn

although I doubt I'd ever use it in tda anywa

[wheat sigil]

i think i tried ai_haste_overriderate but didn't work

i may be tripping though

[spare valve]

I think they should add a quick swap slider in the settings

[sudden stump]

Game isn't designed for quick swapping like Eternal so I don't think that will ever be added

I mean the swap speed we have now after the patch is already pretty generous, albeit still nothing like eternal

[green estuary]

no

it would be little more than a "make the game easier for me please" slider

[spare valve]

Right but the 1000 damage😭

[green estuary]

[velvet elbow]

I hope we get some form of cheats like in eternal, I wanna go through the whole game just using the fists

[delicate grotto]

I love how Eternal’s Ballista is the plasma rifle placeholder lol
Must’ve conceptualized this hella early in development. I’m sure there were plenty of tests and redrafts of its design, there’s a reason it was cut as cool as it looks.

[true maple]

Hey, if I already have my account linked on Bethesda, do I still get the Quakecon skin if I log in?

[unreal terrace]

Yeah

[harsh egret]

yes

[true maple]

Okay good

[old siren]

I think id can and maybe even will create it as KAIBZ mod already supports such a feature + changing runes and melee on hotkeys, now those should really make it into the vanilla game

• I would like to see weapon change ability while I am blocking with the shield

[wintry nexus]

lol, doom eternal ssg looks so weird reloaded like that

[vague basin]

After update, do you need to do something more like press button or break stuff to progress when you are on kreed ship? Because after killing all the maykr drones, I just get stuck with blue barrier that wont let me further. Restarting is not helping. So its either its a bug or they added something to do to open it. Idk.

[solid nacelle]

Yeah you need to shoot it with either plasma rifle

Took me forever to figure it out

I have no idea why they just put it there without mentioning it at all

[harsh egret]

Cuz it's unintentional

[vague basin]

There aint no way. Thx man. However, the heck? Like why would they add it. I was smashing it with melee, impaler, ssg. I never use plasma guns.

[sudden stump]

It was probably added to remind you that you can use the plasma rifle to break kreed's barrier early during the fight

[spare valve]

you can shoot it with the plasma rifle or break it with the balls gun

or you can use the bfg if you got no ammo

[warm ibex]

maybe that's exactly why it was added!

a plasma barrier right before a boss fight where you need to burst plasma shields

[spare valve]

I don't think so I believe it was a mistake as people have got to the barrier and they don't have plasma ammo

There's also another one at the boss door for some reason

[verbal void]

Philippians 4:13 (KJV) – “I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.”

[harsh egret]

and also the door apparently gives u the atlan dash tutorial thing lol

[warm ibex]

that's funny lol

[harsh egret]

lol ok theres some pretty big issues in the ancestral forge level

when it comes to encounters triggering the barriers at the wrong times or barriers just not going down

[teal harbor]

I wish there was more content out rn because I already 100% the game a week after it came out and got the gold skin after a long time, and I just got the perfection skin in the ripatoriam so now I'm just waiting, hoping for a dlc

[harsh egret]

at one of the levers theres just infinitely spawning zombies and thats it, and barriers are still up

[harsh egret]

things take time brother

not many singleplayer games get support like this

[teal harbor]

Ik and I'm excited for for what dlc is to come, eternal had really good dlc story and I HOPE this dlc will tie into the 2016 game in the end somehow

[harsh egret]

it wont tie into 2016, thats confirmed

[teal harbor]

What?? No way

[harsh egret]

it wont end with how the slayer gets in the sarcophagus

either way, by the time the dlc comes out there will still be a good amount of content updates!

the ripatorium is already pretty big, and will expand with future updates

[sudden stump]

I had some wonkiness with the fight at the wolf statues, was blocked off from the center even though there was nothing to fight

[harsh egret]

yup exactly

[teal harbor]

Yeah it pretty cool and it would also be kinda neat if you could have like all of the enemies and the max amount of each one you could fight at the same time

[green estuary]

checkpoints in this game are kinda cooked atm

[teal harbor]

Ik it would be difficult to run but still be cool

[harsh egret]

yep ive realised, but its been reaaally bad in this level in particular, not many issues so far before it for me

[teal harbor]

Are there any cool secrets like levers or like encounters that are really hard to find?

[harsh egret]

wdym