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I mean so do I
there are always optimizations that can be made
the game is already quite well-optimized but I'm sure there's always improvements
Well idk in what really
All I can think of is denuvo and what it usually does to hardware
But besides that you can wait until you can afford the specs
In a perfect world, they allocate resources and 2 years making a baked light version but that has 0% chance of happening
No one asks to remake the lighting completely, they can make some ultra-performance mode
they'll do it in a year probably
Bro can’t even get up from his chair to fight you 😭
am i the only one who likes kreed i thought he was a cool character 😭😭
He a funny guy
👀
well now he has
fell of a 30 story
He fell off, he had no choice it seems
it is a crime we didn't get more of that riff when the slayer approaches the kreed after the first phase in the cutscene
love how the subtitles literally just said [death screams]
i'd say this is the better maykr fight
its crazy how all the bosses have crazy death screams
Get ready for the master levels
wouldnt expect less after beating them repeatedly with an 80 pound mace
just wait till you hear the final one
2 more levels to go
and then i'll reflect about my journey r something idk
i hope that after i kill ahzrak i take his ship cuz that shi is fire
aw hell nah me and novik fighting in atlan mechs this the most badass shi i have ever seen
and mines not even finished
this gon be so fire
ohh i'm in novik's atlan
chills
ahzrak spitting bars
bro i freaking forgot you have to parry instead of dodging and got freaking obliterated
got to say ahzrak is tuff as hell
also with how much enemies they can fit into an arena shit is insane @naive wigeon
asscracked
i kill him 10times
i hope ahzrack voice actor play doom the dark ages and killing ahzrack lol
Just defeated ||kreed maykr||
The difference between Eternal and TDA is clear as day, I went back to Eternal not too long ago. I just don’t see how they’re even similar
And I forgot how to control the atlan by the time this level comes around
Anyone else run into an issue where the game deletes your save files?
Like I just loaded into dark ages and my saves aren’t there???
Ok I just restarted the game and my save files are there again… very weird
Currently fighting ahzrak
literally the same happened to me like an hour ago
rip that nerd in half
have to continue fighting ahzrak as i burned down my last life sigil on the first phase
and have to do the last one in one go
That’s when you’ll beat him
damnit so close
imagine getting a power stronger than the slayer's and still getting beat l bozo
finally beat that guy
got tentacle mommy back
now gotta beat him again but with the bitch i mean witch
NO WAY WAS THAT A SENTINEL HAMMER
WHY DONT THEY GIVE IT TO ME I WILL BEAT AHZRAK IN 2 SECONDS
valen hand that over
Oh shit did he just beat the slayer
oh youre on that part
he killed serrat right
😔
I feel like doom dark ages is better then eternal
2nd phase was in one go
Had to lock in for Serrat
oh i definitely like it more
actually i've kinda changed my opinion and i feel eternal is the "worst" out of the trilogy
Im waiting for dlc to drop
Final chapter time
Reckoning
i agree tbh
SAME
doom classic can coop i know but doom the dark ages is not
I personally think it'd be cool, but at the same time it might give the overall experience/game less value
my mymy my~~~
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meme
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QuakeCon patch
YEAAAHH
Why does doom the dark ages have to be so expensive
Apparently to beat off the fact that it in the gamepass from 1 day
hmmmm......
cutest demons is glory killed demons
cute is it?
No I dont agree
Cacodemons
Pinkies
That is all
Almost no one really plays doom multi-player, I'm confident at least 90% of everyone who buys the game is playing for the single player campaign
Caco is cacute.
++
2 days what?
yes
That doesn’t answer my question
Alright
Ohhhh
understand now?
a white part fell off my dih🥀
am i the only one who actually dislikes the desktop icon for the game lol
like why is it the shield but its made in paint in 2 minutes
so hyped for the patch
Bruh
It’s me after the patch presentation
hybrid cacodemon
the old one
cosmic baron
vagary
cacodemon from doom 3
Lbp😢
Its best top 5
It seems like you've been preparing for this question your whole life.
rip
cueball
i love cacodemons, i wish i could keep one as a pet
TDA cacos can go f themselves
Fr
Frickin projectiles take up the whole goddamn screen
Am i the only one that ACTUALLY likes the mech sections and wanted more?
I liked them
Dragon sections not so much but the way mech sections were used I thought they were a nice fun pace breaker
They're gonna get updated
This quakecon
Both the dragon and mech sections were fun imo
More titans in an arena and an electrical stomp
Millionth time i heard that
Well I can't keep track of everyone I tell it to
Like after seige pt 2 when the slayer spoke i wanted the next chapter to be a mech section
I also really like the mech sections. I would genuinely love to see a full mech game that uses the TDA style
am I crazy for thinking the first room in belly of the beast is the hardest arena in the game? (without the bfc)
or is there some obvious strat I'm missing
I do think imo that a third person view for the mech would be muuuuuch better
Like those old godzilla games
Nah, it's really that hard. Too many long range demons at once
It's the one room I died the most
SAMIR
ah ok thanks


Midnight when Noon Hits
Midday

Ready for Quakecon this weekend?
Ye
How many time are people going to say a Flail is a Mace?
THEY ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS
Wdym
Yup, me and Hato will be pumping out news on X all weekend
I'm going to eat you
I'm right and you're wrong
midnight the goat is here
I can pretty consistently get through the right side of the arena (battle knight, mancubus, armored arachnotron, two nightmare imps, caco, whiplash) without getting hit more than maybe once
but the enforcer armored manc + revenant combo is just so unbelievably cooked
and then once you beat them you're usually in a semi-vulnerable state
and of course that's exactly when the baron comes to bash your head in
At least they are not calling it a "Mourning Star" like I did
the hype for quakecon is starting to set in
Is someone gonna upload a re-review since the game is gonna change up a lot
Most pain I've ever felt
Maybe that's why Trav is taking so long
Once the dlc drops I'll post my review
I've got my TDA Livestreams ready
Does anyone know Travguy
yes
Yes
Or should I say travgal
I actually no lie screamed a little when hugo showed the dlc concept
I really wanted to attend Quakecon this year, but I haven't received my damn visa
last thing i expected
shiet
You laugh at me now but I felt true joy
Block while Weapon Swap
Faster Weapon Swap
New Atlan Ground Stomp
Dragon Changes
Slow Mo Slider
More Responsive Shield
Master Levels
+More we don't know
horde mode (maybe)
Acts 2 and 3 balance changes
I pray
block while weapon swap and more responsive shield are absolutely huge
Thank you I forgot
At most I expect a trailer
thank god for these updates
At this point I'm not too sure on a whole new game mode
if theres a trailer then they are releasing it with the trailer
these r huge updates bro it's gonna help game play a
Absolute Hugo causing me a Hugasm

need a new cinema meme with "absolute Hugo"
Is 15 hrs in with 10 stages completed good
Someone do this now.
Yup, it's to make smoother better combat for the upcoming Challenges (DLC and Master levelz)
i would if i was good at actual photoshop
it took me 30 hours to 100% the game on nightmare 😂
Bet once I get off work
so you're not so bad
i mean we know some horde mode is on the way
How much would the dlc cost tho
Took me 20 hrs and I took my time lmao
I hope not more than 20 usd
i took 20 hrs
I went sight seeing let's just say
Im doing on ultra violence but it's actually very easy so I'm deciding for nightmsre
20-40 bucks, premium edition comes with dlc
How much was tag 1
I think the difficulty is a huge step down from eternal or is it just me
And tag 2
what skill you playing on?
30 each i think? or am i wrong
I'd say a solid $20 to 25$
We will only be getting one DLC
Ultra violence
ALLSTIN
jump to nm or tweak sliders
Alr I'll buy it when it's on sale
I didn't think so
all I did was turn the parry window down and remove slow-mo and it's honestly a bit harder than eternal for me
hey what’s up?
I didn't even mess with the game speed
Dadstin
Alr but how much is tag 1 and 2 combined with full price
hey you make those youtube videos
goatstin
Nah I was just yelling your name
Alr tweaked sliders man eternal was way more fast
tag 1 and 2 are 20 usd each
Hey you too
oh I'll try that
So if tda dlc is like two tags together it would be like 40 bucks
dark ages isn’t slow to me. but i play no slow mo and i can’t go back if it’s 100% game speed cause its SOO GOOD
fr bro
Cuz it's one dlc
alr ill try no slo mo
Already 100% Dark Ages both on xbox and steam
everyone needs to try no slow mo when it drops. so we don’t have to use mods or commands
I mean yeah eternal was faster
but honestly I don't need this game to be faster than eternal--that game already gives me a headache if I play it for more than small chunks at a time
150 game speed and no slo Mo starts making eternal feel slow
Imo
150 with no slow is a bit crazy
Eternal felt like a chore i didn't enjoy it much
"starts" 
200% speed with mods is an experience. one i wouldn’t do a whole campaign on, but man my fingers were zooming around like a fast paced shoot em up
it was too much to explore
what kind of eternal are you playing 
I tried getting 100 percent completion man
On tda it's wayyy more easier
Yeathook edition
On eternal it's much more hardee
eternal has fast travel but the secrets aren’t as straight up on the map probably
anything above 110-120% to me is just silly
I like eternals gameplay tho
I was talking to jaycool lmao
I enjoy eternal but I can understand where you're coming from
some mission challenges are rough in eternal
Secrets r very hard
*yeethook 
Fr bro in tda it's very easy
I have to start eternal from the beginning bruh i switched consoles
Should I just get the weapon upgrades n move on ignoring all the secrets
They are?
300% Damage to player
50% to Demons is HARD
I just want to have fun with the gameplay
Yes
not in tda but eternal
Ye I agree
tda is much more fun
just sounds tedious tbh
300% slayer damage would be a challenge but 50% demon damage is ehh
2016 Secrets
finally bought it
Because the secrets are way easier
It took me 5 hrs and 35 min to finish eternal eith almost all secrets and slayer gates
ggs
Good purchase how much u got it for
With dark ages it's 12 hrs
What in the world
On console too
It took me 2 hours max per act
surely not on your first playthrough
R$ 262
Im on console
it's on sale rn
Playing it like that for 2 months now!
Bosses and the final level are almost Physically impossible
No my most recent one
How many dollars is that
uhmmmm
How much percentage
idk lemme see
25
ah ok
sounds reasonable
like 25%
Yea then I got it for same price
I timed myself lmao I really wanted to hammer in how short eternal is
u just bought it rn too?
I thought it increased I was tensed
Last week
congrats
If there are Zero Dragon level lovers I am dead
Oh damn same
I wasn't gonna buy the game because it was 70 usd where I am
but the instant I saw the 25% off I was like 
Let's race for the platinum
🤝
Fr broo saameee
ofc
I was lik 70 bucks isn't this free in game pass
i may reach u in like a day or 2
already done 
I take it slow
I find the TDA has less content than Eternal Debate dumb cause people always use 6.66 Eternal
2 chapters per day
yeah this
13 vs 22 Levels
fuckin tryhard bro😔
Bruh
Enjoy the game dawg ;-;
I'm on summer vacation what can I say
15 if You do Master Levels
Alr bro nice
I don't enjoy it
I love it
What r master lvls
Fr bro btw nice pfp
last summer before I gotta get a job 
Very challenging remixes of standard Levels
gonna do my masters program this year and after that it's time for employment
I got mastery in the supershotgun n the weapon shooting big balls
oh bruh I'm gonna start eternal
Mancubus, use it on all my socials
Line how Horde uses that one Makyr Slayer helmet
If you ignore battle mode than tda is more substantial
chainshot ballshot
started it
see yall folks
Gl man
But it's easy to ignore battlemode
Battle mode Exists
Ballshot
I've 100% it so idk
Ye I was abt to say
Use
Most annoying guy
battlemode in eternal only exists to make me unable to 100% the game
I forgot the name bruh
Hugo said tda will get the same amt of content eternal got or maybe more
UN for me lol
Marauder
Yea that dude
actually there is no UN achievement in eternal
you only have to complete hell on earth on UN
i think the content debate should focus more on the fact that ppl want more now compared to back then
Crazy miniboss man
so you can get 50/50 achievements without beating UN
maruader is have a toy shield
fr no more good games nowadays so we need more content in good fames
Ppl were actually kinda patient back then is it just me
Finally got past my biggest hurdle so far in TDA's ultra-nightmare. On my way to Forsaken Plains now.
Ya but the In game ones
Months between master levels
wow mate
true
And ppl were just grateful
Is that chapter 10
Ye
the internet has gone to shit and everything so it seems like ppl are less patient now yes
I'm never sniffing UN in any doom game let's be honest
Good luck mate
yeah
It's only been 3 months and we're gonna get 2 master levels(most likely)
people acting like getting 100+ fps on low-end hardware with a new big-name release is somehow a realistic ask
Compared to the 8 months it took for sgn
What's difference between doom 2016 n eternal
Speed
Is eternal more gore
nah
Yeah, I would say so
The abyssal forest was my biggest hurdle because whiplashes are the worst thing in existence.
Oh so it's basically like slow paced
i also love when ppl say that dark ages is dead cuz its already on sale when eternal also went on 25% sale around 3 months after its release
fk the internet sometimes
Just parry em everytime
That's actual reasoning?
yep
That's just ragebait
N use chainshoy
Quakecon Sale Eternal was Higher than 25% If I remember right
No way
I don't really like using the word hater, because it's usually misused
but them's some haters, man
For first release
i checked it was 25% on steamdb
oh alr
Like the FM Haters
Different context for the gore
wait ur right it was 25% off 2 months later and then summer sale it was 50% off
I'd say Eternal has quantity, 2016 has quality.
Oh ok
Eternal is more cartoonish with its gore, 2016 is more brutal
Insane
Oh alr
so technically doom eternal is more dead than dark ages according to morons
if we go by that
I didn't like 2016s gameplay
Is it just me
People who want quick swapping in doom tda missed the whole fucking point of the game
No no no eternal came out with 6 master levels and a horde mode! Did not take 2 years at all!!!
TDA has my favorite gameplay, but 2016 will always be my favorite aestetically.
I mean I loved it
no i meant price wise
Each Game is different for a reason
Well it still applies
since it was discounted 25% a month and a half after release and then in june for steam sale it was 50% off xd
I love the artstyle of 2016 it just had no level variety
In a different convo
Honestly just the shield cooldown from gun switching needs to be fixed
And the colour palette
Pain
Quick swapping is not required
fair
I thought enemy variety was a bigger problem
I agree. But i dont think tda should have crazy quickswap tech
Ye same
Until tda dlc drops gimme that snow hell
Ye you meet them all at level 5
I think there should be a setting we can change manually for it
Because some want fast paced while some dont
Tda is definitely the easiest i suck ass at video games but beat it on un
I completely agree with this
lowkey i fear that enemy variety in mech segments might get worse now that they are adding more AI to it
Fr bro eternal way to serious
Wdym by this
I think the pinky is technically introduced after the barons
but yeah, the second half of the game has no new enemies
Eternal is like if u stop moving ur dead in the next 2 seconds whereas in tda u can survive
There are only 3 enemy types
Dark ages looked absolutely amazing its just it didn’t have much variety with its levels
Yea
this is a terrible take ngl
Eternal is the modern doom game with the most level variety
I mean you have forests, sentinel worlds and cities, hell and the cosmic realm
with the update they said there will be more ai in mech segments, and the variety of enemies will just get worse if u fight the same ones but instead of 3-4 of them now u fight maybe double the amount
Levels just looked kinda samey for me
Do u mean like the same enemies n same fights over n over again
Eternal is my least favorite because it's so hard to play optimally especially with a hand disability.
Ye but they objectively take place in different worlds and not just mars and hell
I think overall eternal is where the newer games peaked, but Dark Ages is still really good
Eternal n dark ages r different
Dark Ages' slow-mo is such a boon for me
Idk that is an issue you can't fix, if they use more ai and you can tell the same ones are showing up, that was a problem since launch
The actual levels itself also felt the same throughout. Like in hell on earth alone you went from being in a destroyed city to the outskirts with islands to places consumed by giant tentacles. In dark ages first level you go from a sentinel village to slightly outside said village
Ye, more just up to personal preference than anything
The best Doom game is whichever one is your favorite 
It is like that even before the update
Eternal had the Set pieces in the background which make the game "look better" in TDA we are in the Set Pieces
its an issue that will just get a lil worse imo, thats all
just wished they got more time to cook on more enemies for the mech
But y'know you can speed past it so why bother
Sentinel Village than to a Mars facility
yeah ik but still
I expected some 4 legged titans
I agreed man but thing is there is more content in on chapter of eternal than tda
they said they literally didnt have time to make more
Honestly, Doom is one of those rare series where every entry is a banger
I can agree that
Ong
Even Doom 3, the “worst” game is still a really solid experience
doom is just goated really
Im glad they are rebalancing the mech sections. Mech and dragon sections were fun the first time around but they got boring on repeat playthroughs
doom 123 64 built fps 2016 etenal tda carried them
Well I know but at the end if the day there are only 3 titan types
At most they can do titan leaders
I lovingly refer to Doom 3 as the "least best" Doom game.
shouldve had some cosmic ones or smth
Or different colored titans
Oh yeah, I’m certain we wouldn’t have the boomer shooter renaissance without D2016
maybe in dlc
Whenever I hear boomer shooter all ik is doom
Ye maybe one mech level with one new titan type
Not only me but I think everyone
That would be enough
So guys when’s that update coming again? The one where they add a slowmo meter and stuff?
In 2 days
Btw guyshow to get dragon n titan skins
Oh hell yeah
This week, Thursday or Friday
I like hunting for skins
other than beating pandaemonium or UN, I honestly don't know
Also tda ages felt like it just shoved in lore. 2016 mentioned the maykrs and sentinels and everything in the codex. But with tda it just introduces things out of nowhere. Like if the cosmic realm is so important why is it never even mentioned in a single codex in 2016 or eternal
what's that
Extra life mode
I don't read codex much ;-;
Sure love retconnning :/
It was hidden by the sentinels I reccommend watching some lore vids
Oh they give u skins for that
Beat ultra nightmare for one skin set, preorder bonus for the other
Exactly
They hid the history of the cosmic realm
ultra nightmare is hard?
No not really
Like do we need to do 100 percent
And it's also why the old one is just shackled off of nowhere and the sentinels knew exactly where to go
Or just beating the game is enough
alr
It’s kinda interesting how we don’t see the Normal cacodemons and baron of hell in tda
Doom doesn't hand everything to you, that goes for story as well
🤦♂️
cacodemons r in tda?
yeah they are
The cosmic ones
;-;-----;
The spooky ones
Oh FUCK
cacos are a nightmare in tda
They massacred my boy the caco. To quote trav guys doom 3 review “its a good design but… why did you make it”
my bad
;-;
Bruh I'm waiting for travs review for tda
Sorry bro
They look like octobrains from dn3d
why not make it?
there's no requirement for everything to look the same between games
Np bro I only got one
Ye I like that the caco in this game is spaghetti boi
Alright which armour is the most badass
I like executioner
divinity
I dont hate the new design it just doesn’t look like a cacodemon. Tda is a good game it just (I promise im not saying this because everyone else does) feels kinda like quake
Wait a minute…the original Caco looks like a meat ball, this one is spaghetti…
Exactly
Caco pasta
It looks kinda cute with the little mouth
well they did call it a cacodemon hybrid
implying that regular cacos are a thing
bruh
I mean it's also not the design that replaces the caco, next game is gonna redesign some demons and bring some back
Cacodemons have always looked cute thats not new
Don't get me wrong still horrifying in a dark room
They either didn’t have time to make the regular caco or hell sold the cacos to the cosmic realm
But they look squishy
Please id just make a new quake 😭
and yeah I feel like the cosmic baron and the caco give off some quake vibes
Fr
Hell, Those sell outs
honestly having fewer flying enemies in this game is probably a good idea
because your ability to gain altitude is nearly non-existent
it's true
Ye, agreed, I’m happy with what we got
A very good idea
I can barely hit those guys
If they made a new quake how would it differ from eternal mechanically
With a finisher
To the point where it warrants its existence?
I dunno i just want something different. Mabye something a bit more doom 3 esque
I would dig that
As a spin off
I was thinking about this
eternal is pretty much quake on steroids, so how would they make a quake game that is even more quake-like than quake on steroids 
The more steroids, the better
Give it even more steroids
More please
iirc that's the actual lore behind the cosmic barons. They were one of Ahzrak's bargaining chips.
And some meth from breaking bad for good measure
Jesse we need more meathooking
Exactly
Jesse we need to hook
The cosmic barons were also all the barons under ahzraks command so all the hell barons are just chilling
I loved the meathook, but I prefer the shield bash because of how fast and easy to get across the area
Even if id makes more doom games they probably will still be good. Rage is the only id game ive ever disliked
Would that really change anything
Im glad tda wasnt just doom eternal 2. But did it need to have nailguns medieval themes and lovecraftian shit
Like thats kinda quakes whole thing
It's called "doom the dark ages"
And quake isn't happening, so they're assimilating quake stuff
Makes sense to me
it has all of those things 
the best gun in the game is literally a nail gun
To be fair doom is more recognizable than quake. Whatever gets Bethesda the most money
Chainshot is best
I mean it wouldn't be just those things but you can do smt with it idk
it's great
but impaler is another level of busted
and either way, my point stands about there being a nail gun
The impaler is so fucking good
impaler can make a nut cracked shot
I love combo-ing it with the shotguns
same
Chronospike does need a rework though
shield bash into ssg is just so cracked
Fr
I personally like to use the SSG with power gauntlet and just go full fisticuffs mode on superheavies
honestly my favorite part of the game is that you can still duel a cyberdemon with the rocket launcher, just like the OG games
shield bash+mace combo
I feel like both plasma weapons are very underrated. Cycler is fantastic crowd control and fully upgraded Accelerator staggers bosses every 30 seconds
accelerator is basically the best weapon for superheavies
except for the rocket launcher for the cyberdemon since it takes bonus damage from it, and the chainshot to remove the vagary's armor
it just has such high DPS
It's not even a DPS thing, it just has an obscenely high rate of fire that you just riddle them with holes

There's high tech stuff present in Argent D'Nur and Cosmic Realm has one big defining feature that separates it: they don't use Lovecraft names.
yes
yes it did. it made it unique and carved out its own niche
What TDA needs more of is more corpse desecration. Like how you can see all the spikes in a demon when using the Shredder and Impaler
I'm curious as to what you would add then
you can't really model buckshot in a target
A bunch of smaller bulletholes, perhaps?
Idk i feel like its an engine limitation
Blue burns from plasma weapons would be a fun step in that direction, at least
yeah it would be, I just dunno how they would do it. it seemed like most of the demon destruction was ripping off predetermined chunks of flesh based on how much damage was applied there
so to me that leads me to believe that is a big time engine limitation on what can and can't be done
I mean every enemy model has functioning skeletons underneath. Adding a decal of black dots to a model doesn't seem like too much of a stretch.
Just like how we all have functioning skeletons inside us
do they? I thought it was just modeling
Reject humanity. Become revedoot
110%
How dare you give relevantly good points on my fav game speed
i think ill stick with 110% also if i turn off slowmo
Have fun with whatever it's there for a reason
no slowmo or lower slowmo will make 120%+ feel silly asf to me
this is why 100% game speed feels right to me
ill play around with it, im sure ill end up enjoying somewhat lower slowmo but not all the way off prob, will see
yeah 110% feels perfect to me
other than that, no thanks
Just bought it. Without spoiling, what should I expect?
Nvm my fav game speed is 50
no slow mo makes it feel more satisfying when I chain multiple parries together
could u uhh wait 2 days until big patch is out
to play the game xd
Ye I would wait two days
Amazing game
but yeah goated game
great game
you'll probably want to turn the parry window down though
and alot of content
Oh well there you go
all good then
Play*
What are your specs or gonna be your specs
Then you're all set
Anything I should know? I love classic doom if that'll help you guys tell me how much I'll love it. I havent watched any gameplay or trailers btw
its the modern doom that feels the most like classic doom
Tda takes the classic doom and expands on it, like the gameplay
Whereas 2016 and eternal built off quake and a bit of doom
Exactly
OOOH.
So what you're saying is less acrobatics, but the same brutality as 2016 and eternal?
Yes!
pretty much
Yup
Have fun
kinda goated game really
I loved the steam sale
Kinda?
hella goated game
Also since its the dark ages is it mideval? If it is, I'm gonna doomjaculate
real
when I saw it was 25% off I just impulse bought it
It is
its like a medieval sci fi
Yea, medieval style shit
if 2016 and eternal were kinda techno-hell, tda is kinda techno-medieval
lmfao
I love it
Techno-mideval-hell?
Doom: The Eight Pages?
I did hear you get to box the Icon of sin or smth
I finished the game like near the end of june, about to replay it now, did i miss any important balance changes or updates
(I still havent finished ETERNAL TAG1 or 2)
it's harder now
replay it in 2 days
death protection is much less forgiving
after the update

Hey its because I recently moved
It already almost didn't do anything
You already had no immunity window after reaching 5 hp like you do in eternal
How could they have made it worse
at least it still exists 
although the imp melee lunge and pinky bites ignore it
I’ll be honest, to me it’s impressive NOT 100%ing every level I play 
Speaking of 100% completion
Is it just me or did this game feel much better to explore and actually find secrets for than the other 2
2016 and eternal
I liked the exploration much more
I found myself exploring and finding stuff way more often here
I’ll be honest
Half the time I am playing I am in the Dossier (looking at the map to find secrets) SOMEONE HELP MEEE
Exploration? No thanks I’ll use the map
Just uhh
Lobotomize yourself
I honestly just keep running around for a while before following the marker
No more think = no more map
Like a hyperactive child
I see interesting or suspicious spot, i walk to interesting or suspicious spot
I do think that the toys and skins and codexes should have been hidden
Nah
ALSO
I usually play for like 2 hours every day and like 90% of that time today was Siege part 1
Which doomguy toy animation do you guys prefer
idk the maps are so big
2016, eternal or dark ages
SPIN
Well it's cuz they offer no real gameplay changes besides being smt cool for exploring
the 2016 fistbump is still awesome
No upgrades and stuff?
No no they exist
Eternal's is so funny he shakes the action figure so aggresively
dark ages, just wished it was longer lmao
I mena no upgrades fir the toys or stuff?
In gold, rubies and wraithstones
"YEAAAHH! HE GOT THE WORKING DOOMBLADE!!!"
Well no it's the same as eternal, except you can see the toys and collectables this time
2016 for me
Fist bump was so cool
I have seen like ONE spoiler and YIU HAVE A PET DRAGON?????
''Aw man boring figure..WAIT. THE SHIELD SPINS''
Did you miss the reveal trailer
I avoid spoilers
Oh yeah
Well you've done a fantastic job so far
What do you guys think about dark ages showing doomguy's face often
need helmetless slayer skin
Plus he looks much better than eternal's face
NOOOOOO
I havent seen it yet but I hope tag1 and tag2 are peak
I reccommend you avoid this chat
there's a mod for that
although there is some weird lighting on his face in a lot of cutscenes
Sorry vro
But like you're in the dark ages chat idk what you expect
Cuz it's gonna get real spoiler heavy
Lol
They removed it 2 weeks after release
Actually
Idk they could've at least archived it
Now that i think about it
I have no idea what i'd consider the ''most people have already played this by now'' window
Weeks? Months?
I'm guessing a couple months
i mean if u havent played and dont want spoilers then surely u would just not chat
That's what i usually do
but a month or 2 seems reasonable
Makes sense
But it's hard to do in communities where there aren't game specific channels
Like this server does
When it's all just one big fat blob of everything, you will get spoiled at some point
Happened to me with the yakuza franchise
I was trying so hard to avoid infinite wealth spoilers while still being in the community and inevitably DID get spoiled
Im poor
Because someone didn't put a spoiler tag on their post
i got spoiled even like 2-3 days before launch about smth
How do you get spoiled BEFORE launch
leaks
Were you also avoiding the trailers and teasers
no
Wait Mick just uploaded a new vid
O
Silly guy
there were plenty of leaks
Ngl i wasn't even in the doom community until recently
especially cuz ppl got to play the game early with digital copies
Dark ages and me getting back into eternal brought me here
on ps5
people got early access
This game has the easiest U.N
Did they mention anything about the patch coming on thursday
its pretty much confirmed yes
YES PLS
ravager was already nerfed against specific superheavies/bosses
they are doing balance changes to ssg and impaler from what we know
Aw man
chainshot doesn't feel thaat busted beyond ammo count
CHAINSHOT 🔛🔝
It feels pretty busted when you go to town with it against any melee demon
Especially barons and cyberdemons
Parry > max charge shot > repeat
MAN FRICK THE CYBERDEMONS
sure but no more than something like the rocket launcher or the ssg
Which ones better cycler or accelerator
accelerator has higher raw dps
It just feels satisfying to get the charged shot instantly from a parry
cycler has better crowd control
I always go one on one with Cyberdemon no matter what
Free parries 
I forgot which one was which can you guys remind me
Which one was the super fast firing one
And which one inflicted shock
Cycled is shock
the cycler has shock
Accelerator - plasma rifle
Cycler - 2 barreled plasma rifle(it causes the shock)
Does anyone even fight the cyberdemon from range
Yes.
I melee'd every single one on my first playthrough
Grenade launcher is good for that
Okay yeah
I doubt it
Cycler is the one i prefer using
I love spamming dreadmace SSG chainshot and cycler
Chat
Guys what 5 weapons should i do for the final boss
One thing i love about this game is being able to press the same hotkey twice to get the alternative version of the weapon instead of having to use a different key
Like i can just press 3 for both accelerator and cycler
It's awesome
Should I force myself to not 100% Ancestral Forge (and all the other future levels) so I CAN FINALLY ENJOY DOOMING
I got it for PS its peak
just use one of the plasma guns or the impaler lol
Your choice
I personally wouldn't restrict myself from 100%ing levels
Buut you do you
Guys rate my five main guns
Combat shotgun
Super Shotgun
Impaler
Cycler
Rocket Launcher
Also
I need to start focusing on enjoying the levels
I can barely remember how any of the environments look
Idk if it was just me
But || ahzrak || was so much worse as a final boss than the icon
He didn't feel satisfying or fun to fight
Other than the final cutscene
Simply play the campaign start to finish over and over until you lose your sanity and memorize all of them
Ahzraks death is so satisfying(im still on ch 16)
idk but i disagree hard on that lol
I think it just lacked the scale
Name a character that solos doom slayer(comic characters not allowed)
The icon was this big world ending monster and then you fight this guy who's just your size basically
the icon of sin is kinda awkward to fight imo
I find it really fun to just wale on the icon with quick swaps
Pb rocket ballista and then a bfg shot
Never gets boring for me
The crucible was useless in my run
I only used it on my first playthrough on the first arena the game makes you play
With like 20 crucible charges around the arena
Then i dropped it
Same. Until i realized you can use it on the khan maykr
I don't even use the bfg or crucible anymore outside of extremely rare scenarios
Like the final encounter of super gore nest master level with THREE archviles
I'm sorry but i'm crucibling those guys
Do you guys think Icon will return
Doubt it
You're weak if you have to crucible archviles (I agree with you)
I am excited to see what TDA's dlc will be about though
Whenever it gets released
He probably returned to hell permanently paralyzed while the demons try to get the crucible out
That's the first time i've used the crucible in a long time
3 archviles is nasty
I usually use it for when I REALLY hate these guys
Blood punch has joined the chat
So crucible 2 archies
Unmaykr is underrated
I use it for barons and tyrants it's pretty awesome
Its better than the BFG in tight spaces
As a person who did horde mode. I can agree the hammer is OP
It's not even hard to get
Like atleast with the crucible and BFG the ammo pickups are rare
You can literally spam the hammer
For something that's as strong as it is, you'd expect it to be hard to get, but no
You can spam it
It's so satisfying to use too. I remember I once got both marauders stunned in that one immora encounter and haven't been able to replicate it since.
If only you could stun the buff totem marauder in tag1
That guy will never not give me a heart attack
you expect him to attack but instead he just teleports right next to your face like 
Atleast it's a buff totem marauder
And not a possessed one
What about both?
Calm down Satan
Gyro Aim?
ok
After August 7th, Dark ages will become peak
where doom 
Doom everywhere
When doom 
Doom now
How doom 
Doom good
@frail bloom do we know if they confirmed the lower parry window setting coming with this update
tryina work on a list with everything thats confirmed and what isnt but could be in the update to post on twitter
Confirmed:
- Master levels
- Updates to the Atlan and Dragon to add more depth and replayability
- Act 2/3 encounter updates
- Chaingunners will become more of a threat
- Weapon switching while blocking
- Singletap/doubletap to select specific weapons in each class
- Universal slight increase in weapon swap
- Removed delay on shield-throw to make it feel a lot more snappy and responsive
- Various polish/fixes to the shield
- Balance changes to the Impaler and SSG
- Slow-mo slider
- Enhancements to the pinky bite attack
- Increased size for the Komodo ground pound attack
Speculation:
- Lower parry window setting (not confirmed for this update specifically but could come now, or with another update)
- Making the 2 parryable projectiles for the Revenant be random (Hugo said that's how it should be, but nothing is confirmed for now)
- Horde mode (or something similar, this was confirmed by Hugo through a reddit comment but not confirmed for this update yet)
is what i have so far, lmk if anybody knows anything ive missed, i probably missed some stuff
I have 75 hours in the game. Let this update get me to at least 100 🥰
By the way, I never did the master levels in Eternal. What are those, exactly?
i have 62 on my third run now but going to wait for the update
I missed a bunch of stuff on my first play through so I’ve replayed all of the levels. Felt good playing level 1 with maxed out everything lol
I want to do a third playthrough on Pandemonium but I died so much to Ahzrak both fights.
I'm guessing thira or novik will probably be giving us the details of what's going on. Or I wonder if well team up with valen or something.
harder versions of the same level, completly new encounters, maybe even arenas set up in areas where there wasnt one before, etc
go look up the sgn master level, its rly good
Mars Core is pretty a fun master level. That all pinky area is a blast.
idk maybe its different in nightmare/pandemonium but i dont remember it being allat hard in ultra violence
i have 32.3 and i have only finished it once
I think I’m just bad at some of his patterns where he swings the spear like 6 times.
Also missing the parry window makes you lose shield block, so you get hit by the rest of the combo for free.
It’s a skill issue on my part 🥱
Playing the game again but with more/different enemy encounters? Sign me up.
its really smart and fun encounters
and i bet they made some sick stuff for dark ages now
Well I’m excited to try it out, whatever it ends up being.
Nope
He mentioned it like months ago
No clue if it's a slider or a mode
i think the New One and done Parry gamemode may be in this update, but no confirmations yet
mode from what hugo said last
"weapon switching while blocking" is inaccurate. Hugo M. showed a demo and explained it on the livestream. It's "cancelling weapon swap with shield block". meaning the swap wouldn't go through, but your shield will come up immediately instead of the delay to complete the weapon swap
Ye that's what it technically is
should be a slider from what he said later on
the sekiro mode is just a meme name i guess for the setting itself maybe but who knows
right, mb
isn’t rapid weapon swap more of an eternal thing too 
*hotswapping
Nothing abt hotswapping was brought up in that
It was just to make it smoother
shield cancelling weapon swap doesn't have anything to do with rapid weapon swap. it's very different from eternal
i would appreciate hotswapping as a feature in dark ages tho

